[00:02] <phillw> Hi, if there are any ubuntu-server admins about, could you please approve my email to the area. It is for 14.04 manual... thanks.
[00:36] <jmleddy> ?
[02:29] <TripSec> Does Truecrypt run in ubuntu
[02:30] <bazhang> !truecypt
[02:30] <bazhang> whoops
[02:30] <bazhang> !truecrypt
[05:10] <babinlonston> Any one there to guide me installing guest operating system in kvm via command line
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> does someone know what to fill in setup, in the iscsi part with ip/port/username?
[06:50] <hxm> hi
[06:50] <hxm> i have a RAID 5 and I changed an hd because it was damaged
[06:50] <hxm> now it works again and the filesystem is corrupted
[06:50] <hxm> fsck won't check it
[06:50] <hxm> how can I force a fsck for this partition?
[06:59] <ikonia> hxm: how did you setup raid,
[06:59] <ikonia> hxm: how many disks are in the array
[07:00] <hxm> the raid was working for a long time, I have 8 hd of 2Tb each one, I replaced one hd, then make it online, rebuild the data and after one day it finnish
[07:00] <hxm> then started the OS and fstab can't mount the partition because it has errors
[07:00] <hxm> so I try to run fsck and it says is an unknown partition
[08:02] <ihre> What is the best way to discover what is causing a high cpu wait time? I cant monitor top or iostat 24/7 ofcourse
[12:53] <smoser> jamespage, so should i expect golang to build armhf ?
[13:27] <DenBeiren> Hi there,.. i tried installing boot-repair on a system with a livecd
[13:27] <DenBeiren> the repo is added, but the package can't be found
[13:27] <DenBeiren> any ideas?
[13:40] <vila> hallyn: hi, is this the right channel to discuss about bug #1227937
[13:41] <vila> hallyn: ha, looks like this is already discussed in #ubuntu-devel, going there
[13:42] <hallyn> vila: yup, we're talking there :)
[14:17] <ThRiX> Hi at all!
[14:19] <ThRiX> I just installed all the necessary components to get a PXE server, but after selecting the system to start from the client, is the word "loading".  Using Ubuntu 10.04.4 lts
[14:20] <ThRiX> I read in a guide:"This does not work for a PXE server running 10.04.1 LTS, nor does it work for clients trying to run 10.04.1 LTS. The client receives an offer from DHCP, gets the kernel, and fails while trying to load.  NOTE: It WILL work if you add required module names in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules (module names for your network adapters, like forcedeth or tulip)"
[14:21] <ThRiX> and I added in "/ etc / initramfs-tools / modules" module "bnx2". But the result is not changed ...
[14:21] <ThRiX> you have any advice?
[14:38] <hallyn> ThRiX: I run pxeboot like this:  http://s3hh.wordpress.com/2011/12/15/simple-netboot-setup/  <shrug>  (everything i know is in there :)
[15:20] <Lord255> hi
[15:21] <Lord255> i have mysql with phpmyadmin and i saw that on the stats page the server name can be found. i want to change the name of the server but would it cause any harm in other services or not?
[15:24] <baggar11> Lord255: probably not locally. If you other machines accessing via hostname, then yes.
[15:31] <Lord255> baggar11, yeah thx. :) i was worring that for example phpmyadmin sets the variables during the install and wont get updated by the hostname change
[15:57] <baggar11> Lord255: I'm pretty sure I've changed hostnames on a phpmyadmin hosting box with no issues.
[15:57] <baggar11> Lord255: good luck
[15:59] <Lord255> :\
[15:59] <Lord255> did the change, but on phpmyadmin on the variables page i can see still the old hostname :\
[16:01] <Lord255> hah. restart of the mysql solved the issue.
[16:01] <Lord255> thx a lot!
[16:14] <abradley> I have this in smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214345/  but I'm getting this error when I try to write to the share from windows 7: http://i.imgur.com/KNN3yOv.png
[17:49] <abradley> I have this in smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214345/  but I'm getting this error when I try to write to the share from windows 7: http://i.imgur.com/KNN3yOv.png
[17:54] <sarnold> abradley: "ready only"?
[17:54] <sarnold> abradley: check your samba logs. I bet it complains about that.
[17:55] <abradley> [vol1]
[17:55] <abradley>         comment = GlusterFS
[17:55] <abradley>         path = /mnt/vol1
[17:55] <abradley>         browsable = yes
[17:55] <abradley>         guest ok = yes
[17:55] <abradley>         ready only = no
[17:55] <abradley>         create mask = 0755
[17:55] <abradley> read only = no
[17:55] <abradley> that bad?
[17:55] <Pici> don't paste here, please.
[18:09] <ancaster> hello. Does anyone know of good guides (online or off) for planning how to RAID/partition different kinds of servers?
[18:09] <ancaster> I understand technically how to configure raid/lvm,
[18:10] <ancaster> but I'd like to know more about different patterns for doing so. E.g. RAID 1 two drives for the OS, and then RAID10 the rest for storage. Is this a good idea?
[18:11] <ancaster> In my particular case, I work at a university lab where we have a compute server with 16x2TB drives.
[18:12] <lenios> ancaster, it depends on what you want
[18:13] <lenios> and if the system disk is really important to you
[18:17] <jamespage> smoser, build log? I don't see why noe
[18:17] <jamespage> not
[18:17] <jamespage> it might be a problem with the fact that the CA ppa's are using PPA builders
[18:18] <jamespage> openvswitch fails for that reason
[18:18] <smoser> hm..
[18:19] <smoser> jamespage, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cloud-archive-private/+archive/cloud-tools-proposed/+build/5086233
[18:44] <ancaster> lenios: generally then, do you typically create one large RAID array? This server will be used by many users to run processing jobs, and store data.
[18:46] <ancaster> lenios: We have a backup device for system/data.  I suppose then uptime for system/data is equally important
[18:46] <ancaster> lenios: I may have just convinced myself one large array is okay. :-)
[18:49] <mgriffin> if i wanted to get a new package in ubuntu, would i want to create a ppa first and then submit it for review, or similar?
[18:50] <lenios> ancaster, you might want to do 2 partitions, one for / and one for data
[18:51] <lenios> just in case you need to reinstall everything
[18:52] <lenios> because even if you have backups, it will take way more time to get the data back than the system
[18:52] <lenios> mgriffin, ppa would be a good start
[18:54] <mgriffin> lenios: what would be the next step?
[18:55] <lenios> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[18:55] <mgriffin> ty
[18:56] <lenios> if it's not ubuntu specific, the best way is to submit it to debian
[19:00] <mgriffin> alright
[19:08] <zul> adam_g:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/swift/1.10.0.rc1/+merge/190222
[19:09] <smoser> hallyn, why did you make kvm curses all cutsie ?
[19:10] <hallyn> me?
[19:11] <hallyn> smoser: i'd need some more details...
[19:11] <smoser> i blame you for everything
[19:12] <smoser> run 'kvm -curses'
[19:12] <smoser> and watch the cursor dance annoyingly all over
[19:13] <smoser> its painful over a remote link
[19:13] <hallyn> in saucy?
[19:14] <hallyn> (waiting on install)
[19:20] <smoser> yeah, in saucy
[19:20] <hallyn> i'm not seeing dancing.
[19:20] <hallyn> I am however seeing colors
[19:27] <hallyn> smoser: I don't see anything in git log to explain it...  is your $env the same ?
[19:29] <smoser> i think its probably seabios, hallyn
[19:36] <ancaster> lenios: thanks for all your help.
[20:24] <abradley> Is there a way to setup a high availability nas with ubuntu server?
[20:28] <Gregor_> Hello, i got a mini itx server, and i want to replace the 0,5tb with a 2tb. Are 2tb widely supported, or should i take a 1TB?   Intel nm10 chipset, I found nothing in data sheets...
[20:43] <lenios> Gregor_, are you talking about software or hardware support?
[20:43] <Gregor_> Hardware
[20:43] <Gregor_> lenios: already got a solution, ty =)
[20:58] <Darkstar1> evening all. Just a qq, on the same server can I setup the ftp login for different accounts to different user directories
[20:59] <Darkstar1> ?
[21:23] <AntelopeSalad> i'm getting a GPG error (signature invalid) when trying to apt-update after adding this https://launchpad.net/~rwky/+archive/redis
[21:23] <AntelopeSalad> any idea on what to do to fix this? i installed redis on box #1 from there a few days ago and now i'm trying to do the same on box #2 (same OS) but i am getting that error, it worked fine earlier on box #1
[21:23] <AntelopeSalad> i googled a bunch of different SO answers but all of them failed to fix it
[21:24] <sarnold> AntelopeSalad: if you use apt-add-repository, it'll automate downloading the gpg signing key used for that ppa
[21:24] <AntelopeSalad> i ran sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rwky/redis
[21:24] <sarnold> AntelopeSalad: if you add the deb entries by hand, you'll also need to add the key by hand..
[21:25] <AntelopeSalad> then sudo apt-get update
[21:25] <AntelopeSalad> that's the point where it fails with the signing error
[21:25] <AntelopeSalad> it reported OK after doing the keyring stuff too, which is making me wonder why the update fails
[21:26] <sarnold> AntelopeSalad: so it -did- do the keyring juggling but still broken? hrm. can you pastebin output?
[21:26] <AntelopeSalad> sure, one sec
[21:26] <AntelopeSalad> http://pastie.org/8390608
[21:27] <AntelopeSalad> that's the last few lines with the error
[21:28] <AntelopeSalad> it's a micro ec2 instance with ubuntu/images/ebs/ubuntu-raring-13.04-i386-server-20130423 (ami-cd0360a4)
[21:28] <AntelopeSalad> when i installed it locally in a VM the other day with ubuntu-server 13.04 it had no issues so i'm not sure what's up
[21:29] <sarnold> AntelopeSalad: ah. I think the ppa is a red herring, it's failing on standard distribution stuff :(
[21:29] <AntelopeSalad> here's the keyring stuff http://pastie.org/8390624
[21:30] <AntelopeSalad> i guess this is why people always say if you depend on package managers when deploying you're going to get into bad spots
[21:30] <AntelopeSalad> i'm a bit sad it's biting me on my very first deploy tho haha
[21:31] <sarnold> yes :/
[21:32] <sarnold> smoser: hey, AntelopeSalad is getting "W: GPG error: http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"  http://pastie.org/8390608   -- do you know where we ought to report that?
[21:33] <AntelopeSalad> i might give this a shot https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/redis-server for now
[21:33] <AntelopeSalad> i just hope i didn't ruin my ec2 instance, i did some crazy weird key stuff that all failed to work
[21:33] <AntelopeSalad> (reading SO answers)
[21:34] <jamescarr> hi I'm using the official raring ami for ec2 and it's been working GREAT
[21:34] <jamescarr> until he last hour :(
[21:34] <AntelopeSalad> here are some commands i used that said it fixed it for other people
[21:34] <AntelopeSalad> sudo gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[21:34] <AntelopeSalad> sudo gpg --export --armor 40976EAF437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[21:34] <jamescarr> been getting lots of Failed to fetch http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/lxc/liblxc0_0.9.0-0ubuntu3.4_amd64.deb  403  Forbidden
[21:34] <jamescarr> oh
[21:34] <AntelopeSalad> neither worked for me, am i risking anything by having those?
[21:35] <jamescarr> AntelopeSalad:  are you having the same issue?
[21:35] <AntelopeSalad> i don't know about the failed to fetch, all i know is the keys won't sign when i try to update
[21:35] <AntelopeSalad> is there a verbose mode i can turn on to see the details?
[21:35] <AntelopeSalad> i'm new to this stuff
[21:37] <sarnold> jamescarr: thanks
[21:38] <AntelopeSalad> uh oh
[21:38] <AntelopeSalad> i added in chris's ppa and i get the same exact signing up
[21:38] <AntelopeSalad> *up = error
[21:38] <jamescarr> sarnold: ?
[21:39] <AntelopeSalad> this is the proper way to remove one right? sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:rwky/redis
[21:39] <AntelopeSalad> i removed that, it ran without errors, but then installing chris' gave the same error as when i installed rwky's
[21:40] <sarnold> jamescarr: I was just preparing an RT for our IS to investigate, your confirmation of further problems is very convenient :)
[21:40] <jamescarr> sarnold: whew, so it's not just me :)
[21:40] <jamescarr> I've been building server instances all day
[21:40] <sarnold> jamescarr: yeah, AntelopeSalad's got the same problem.
[21:40] <jamescarr> only in the last hour this started happening
[21:40] <AntelopeSalad> it obviously started then because that's exactly when i tried to provision my first server lol
[21:41] <AntelopeSalad> why does the 2nd ppa fail tho? are they both using the same mirror or whatever retrieves the files?
[21:41] <sarnold> AntelopeSalad: the ppas are working fine, it's the raring-updates that are failing..
[21:42] <AntelopeSalad> oh
[21:42] <AntelopeSalad> so i won't be able to install anything?
[21:42] <jamescarr> AntelopeSalad: you trying to use chrislea ppas?
[21:43] <AntelopeSalad> jamescarr: yes, same error
[21:43] <jamescarr> hold on
[21:43] <AntelopeSalad> i manually deleted the rwky files in sources.list.d/ too
[21:43] <AntelopeSalad> (after removing it with the cmd i pasted before)
[21:43] <AntelopeSalad> the sig # is the same too
[21:43] <sarnold> AntelopeSalad: you'll be stuck with only original-packages and security updates until this is fixed; you can probably also change the apt sources.list to try us-east-2 or us-west-1, but that's an annoyance. :)
[21:44] <AntelopeSalad> any idea on when this will be fixed?
[21:44] <AntelopeSalad> this is so unfortunate too, redis was the last package i need to launch
[21:44] <jamescarr> AntelopeSalad: humph… I don't even need a key for that repo
[21:44] <jamescarr>  apt::ppa { "ppa:chris-lea/node.js": }
[21:45] <AntelopeSalad> jamescarr: try this one https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/redis-server
[21:45] <jamescarr> give me a minute while it provisions
[21:45] <AntelopeSalad> i will be using chris lea's for node later, i actually forgot i still need to install that too
[21:45] <AntelopeSalad> i'm doing everything by hand :D
[21:46] <jamescarr> I don't have an ubuntu box on hand to do it so I'm just launching vagrant up redis01
[21:46] <jamescarr> that being said… I don't deal with ppas directly but usually through puppet
[21:46] <AntelopeSalad> i planned to try and automate this stuff after i had it all working manually
[21:47] <jamescarr> looks like it worked
[21:47] <jamescarr> let me give you my ppa def
[21:47] <AntelopeSalad> ok, what can i do to tix it?
[21:47] <AntelopeSalad> *fix
[21:49] <AntelopeSalad> and did his package install 2.6.16 (latest stable)? i noticed this guy has a bunch of 3.x releases too
[21:49] <jamescarr> give me a minute, going to ssh into it and see what the config is
[21:49] <AntelopeSalad> nm, that's for a diff package -- ignore that
[21:49] <jamescarr> was about to say there is no redis 3.x
[21:49] <AntelopeSalad> yeah
[21:50] <jamescarr> sorry I was wrong… the redis module we use now installs via tarball
[21:50] <AntelopeSalad> i wonder if i have some left junk from rwky's ppa, i thought deleting it from sources.list.d would have been it
[21:50] <AntelopeSalad> oh
[21:50] <jamescarr> rwky's ppa is what we used to use
[21:50] <AntelopeSalad> i'm too much of a newbie to do that because i want to make sure it's properly configured with init.d
[21:51] <jamescarr> interesting, he just released 2.8 to his repos
[21:51] <jamescarr> https://twitter.com/rwky_/status/387957990948876289
[21:52] <AntelopeSalad> hmm
[21:52] <AntelopeSalad> i just tried updating again with no luck
[21:54] <AntelopeSalad> is there something i can do to force it to update?
[21:54] <jamescarr> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rwky/redis ?
[21:54] <jamescarr> did you do that?
[21:54] <AntelopeSalad> that's what i did before
[21:54] <jamescarr> and apt-get update fails?
[21:54] <AntelopeSalad> i thought if it's down then everything is down
[21:54] <AntelopeSalad> i was trying it with chris'
[21:55] <AntelopeSalad> i readded rwky but it still fails, but i also still have chris' in there
[21:55] <jamescarr> I'd use one or the other
[21:56] <jamescarr> sarnold: is the issue with raring-updates and might it be resolved in the latest raring AMI?
[21:56] <jamescarr> if the later I'll just rebuild from the latest AMI
[21:56] <jamescarr> in fact going to do that now anyway
[21:57] <AntelopeSalad> are the official builds ok to use then?
[21:58] <AntelopeSalad> like if i were to do: apt-get install curl
[21:58] <AntelopeSalad> without supplying a custom ppa
[22:00] <AntelopeSalad> seems they might all be down? i just answered Y to a "do you want to continue?" and it instantly aborted
[22:07] <sarnold> jamescarr: sorry, no response to my RT yet, no further details..
[22:07] <jamescarr> doh
[22:07] <jamescarr> btw what does RT mean?
[22:08] <jamescarr> R…. Ticket?
[22:08] <sarnold> jamescarr: "request tracker" .. maybe not the best name, hehe
[22:09] <sarnold> maybe request ticket? it's one of those funny things that eveyrone uses the acronym and after a while you forget that it stands for something.
[22:09] <AntelopeSalad> is this something that can be fixed in minutes once someone is aware of the problem?
[22:10] <sarnold> AntelopeSalad: I hope so.
[22:10] <TheLordOfTime> that explains why my EC2s failed to autoupdate...
[22:10] <AntelopeSalad> you would think people would be going crazy, if no one can install anything
[22:11] <AntelopeSalad> how can they not notice it?
[22:11] <TheLordOfTime> ehehehehe...
[22:11] <sarnold> hey TheLordOfTime
[22:11] <TheLordOfTime> see, my EC2s just run supybots and run my wordpress blog off of php5 and nginx... since there's no php5 updates, i don't have to worry about it :P
[22:11] <TheLordOfTime> (nginx is updated courtesy of the nginx team's PPAs, which I just updated today)
[22:11] <TheLordOfTime> sup sarnold
[22:11] <sarnold> AntelopeSalad: most systems are in a steady state of just doing their job. installing stuff is rare once systems are up and running
[22:11] <TheLordOfTime> well... apart from the number of problems in the archives today :p
[22:12] <AntelopeSalad> i installed nginx with deb http://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ raring nginx
[22:12] <TheLordOfTime> AntelopeSalad: ewwww
[22:12] <TheLordOfTime> don't do that :p
[22:12] <AntelopeSalad> then did the keys manually
[22:12] <AntelopeSalad> did the same with postgres too :/
[22:12] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: what's wrong with their packages rather than yours? :)
[22:12] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: all the debian bugs and such that're fixed in them
[22:12] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: how long is your series?
[22:13] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: once debian publishes a new version, I resync the PPAs off that, so a lot of bugs get fixed
[22:13] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: clarify the question please?
[22:13]  * TheLordOfTime yawns
[22:13] <TheLordOfTime> little bit tired from kicking around the kernel from here to /dev/null and back :P
[22:13] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: I wondered how many out-of-tree patches you carry in your packaging ..
[22:13] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: right now, with latest update, 0, but when Debian publishes a fix, a few
[22:13] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: woo
[22:13] <TheLordOfTime> usually sites-available fixes or critical bugfixes
[22:14] <TheLordOfTime> and the occasional CVE
[22:14] <jamescarr> okay just built our base AMI cleanly from the latest raring AMI
[22:14] <TheLordOfTime> but i also try and fix those CVEs in Ubuntu too, so if you don't use the PPAs... :P
[22:14] <sarnold> ah, yeah, those can come faster from you than from upstream sometimes, hehe
[22:14] <jamescarr> now building my AMI that failed
[22:14] <AntelopeSalad> btw is this a good plan for automatic security updates? http://pastie.org/8390767
[22:14] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: the other problem with the upstream repository is that we don't get a bunch of other package selections with modules
[22:14] <TheLordOfTime> i think
[22:14] <TheLordOfTime> *checks8
[22:14] <AntelopeSalad> i sniped it from a random blog post on "linux security"
[22:15] <sarnold> AntelopeSalad: looks sane
[22:15] <TheLordOfTime> AntelopeSalad: sarnold: yeah, the upstream just has "nginx" and "nginx-debug"
[22:15] <AntelopeSalad> i pretty much followed this guide http://plusbryan.com/my-first-5-minutes-on-a-server-or-essential-security-for-linux-servers
[22:15] <TheLordOfTime> the Debian, Ubuntu, and PPA sources all provide base nginx stuff to just run with the least modules, a full setup (upstream's basically), extra included third-party modules...
[22:16] <TheLordOfTime> and naxsi
[22:16] <TheLordOfTime> which is the advantage to using Debian/Ubuntu/NGINX Team PPA  over upstream
[22:16] <TheLordOfTime> ... oh damn, that reminds me, I need to find someone to sponsor a repaired-sru-debdiff...
[22:17] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: cool, thanks
[22:17] <sarnold> AntelopeSalad: looks sane enough :) nice change, hehe
[22:17] <TheLordOfTime> ... oh good, the sponsors team was resubscribed there... *sighs in relief*
[22:18] <AntelopeSalad> sarnold: i followed everything but the logging stuff because i didn't setup sendmail
[22:18] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: not to mention, bugs get fixed in the Debian and Ubuntu versions a lot quicker than upstream's, because upstream will release those fixes probably at the next version bump :P
[22:18] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: *nod* that can take a long time..
[22:18] <TheLordOfTime> well... when I say Ubuntu, I mean PPAs or the SRUs I work on
[22:18]  * TheLordOfTime is kinda the only person handling nginx bugs for Ubuntu :/
[22:19] <TheLordOfTime> (with the occasional upstream prod to see if they know how to fix naxsi bugs)
[22:19] <AntelopeSalad> i guess i should use this downtime to force myself to make a proper 404/500 page
[22:20] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: i have also seen that upstream tends to not create actual sites-available / sites-enabled folders and stuff
[22:21] <TheLordOfTime> which is usually a critical thing for all the guides for nginx and ubuntu out there
[22:21] <TheLordOfTime> (Debian does!)
[22:22] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: i can understand why people would use nginx's upstream repository though...
[22:22] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: because the nginx team's mainline and stable release ppas were all out of date
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> stable was 0.0.2 versions behind
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> and mainline was I think 0.0.5 versions behind
[22:23] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: zounds :)
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> that was my fault...
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> my computer died...
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> and then i got busy beating people over the head for making their windows computers virused...
[22:24] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: yeah, the sites-available / -enabled stuff is convenient for many end users, but the crazy russians probably wonder why you wouldn't want it all in one file, hehe
[22:24] <TheLordOfTime> (figuratively speaking, i actually just chewed them out)
[22:24] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: exactly, that's why there's a significant Debian delta between upstream and Debian/Ubuntu/derivatives
[22:24] <TheLordOfTime> i see a lot of Apache or lighttpd converts to nginx, they all like having those sites-available and sites-enabled folders
[22:25] <TheLordOfTime> as well as a default "sample" config they can use as a base for other things
[22:25] <TheLordOfTime> which, of course, upstream doesn't provide as much :P
[22:25] <TheLordOfTime> ... i will say, there's a delta between the PPA and Debian git, though, because Debian git has 1.4.3 and some other fixes, but I can't merge them in easily to the PPA without breaking from the original tarball, and for some reason the builders whine when there's a substantial difference that's not in a quilt patch...
[22:26] <TheLordOfTime> still, the #nginx channel is useful for fixing that
[22:27] <jamescarr> atill
[22:27] <jamescarr>   amazon-ebs: Failed to fetch http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/lxc/lxc_0.9.0-0ubuntu3.4_amd64.deb  403  Forbidden
[22:27] <jamescarr> fuck
[22:27] <jamescarr> this was working all day
[22:27] <TheLordOfTime> and i usually end up saying "If you're using upstream's stuff, don't, copy the configs you need elsewhere, purge the upstream data, add the PPA, remove the upstream repository, update
[22:27] <TheLordOfTime> !language | jamescarr
[22:27] <jamescarr> I was about done and ready to launch our new platform this evening with the final AMIs generated
[22:27] <TheLordOfTime> jamescarr: keep the channel polite, family-friendly, and swearing-free please :)
[22:27] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: indeed, I -love- the sample configs. I don't know what I need exactly but samples make it quick and easy to spot it. hehe. :)
[22:27] <jamescarr> TheLordOfTime: well, frak it then! :)
[22:27] <TheLordOfTime> jamescarr: well... is it just that archive server?
[22:28] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: ^
[22:28] <jamescarr> tim to go have a drink and hope this is resolved when I get back
[22:28] <TheLordOfTime> (same question)
[22:28] <sarnold> jamescarr: try sed -i 's/east/west/g' in your /etc/apt/sources.list and see if it works?
[22:28] <TheLordOfTime> jamescarr: might take them a while, Canonical IS isn't exactly "speedy"
[22:28] <TheLordOfTime> but yes, what sarnold said
[22:28] <jamescarr> sed -i 's/east/west/g'  /etc/apt/sources.list right?
[22:28] <TheLordOfTime> (it could just be the us-east-1 server)
[22:28] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: it's us-east-1, I dunno who is best to yell at for that :/
[22:29] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: amazon probably
[22:29] <TheLordOfTime> unless the mirror software broke
[22:29] <TheLordOfTime> in which case, um...
[22:29] <TheLordOfTime> yeah still amazon
[22:29] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: do let me know if IS says amazon has tofix it
[22:29] <TheLordOfTime> because then i'll have a laugh at amazon's expense
[22:29] <jamescarr> trying with a "sed -i 's/east/west/g'  /etc/apt/sources.list" first
[22:30] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: actually, question...
[22:30] <TheLordOfTime> the ec2 archives... what's the difference between them and the actual regional mirrors?
[22:30] <TheLordOfTime> AFAICT there's 0 difference...
[22:30] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: I think bandwidth to the amazon mirrors is free or metered much cheaper
[22:31] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: staying within one availability zone is useful for billing, anyway :)
[22:31] <TheLordOfTime> true.
[22:31] <TheLordOfTime> in a pinch, i use the actual regional archives if i need to do updates and the EC2 mirrors are down...
[22:31] <TheLordOfTime> but that's only if it's absolutely emergency-level security fixes
[22:31] <TheLordOfTime> and that's rare :P
[22:32] <sarnold> I <3 the anl.gov mirror, it's ~ten times faster for me than the canonical servers. hehe.
[22:33] <TheLordOfTime> they have a mirror?
[22:33] <TheLordOfTime> ooooo
[22:33] <TheLordOfTime> did not know
[22:33] <jamescarr> almost there
[22:33]  * TheLordOfTime replaces us.archive.ubuntu.com with the anl mirror
[22:33] <jamescarr> good grief!
[22:34] <TheLordOfTime> oh wow... sarnold guess what
[22:34] <TheLordOfTime> Our configuration is: Ubuntu x86 64-bit PC (AMD64) server install ...
[22:34] <TheLordOfTime> for anl.gov's mirrors!
[22:34] <TheLordOfTime> THEY USE UBUNTU!  :D
[22:34] <AntelopeSalad> will doing that make everything (even custom ppas) work again?
[22:34] <AntelopeSalad> and could you please explain how to do it if so
[22:34] <TheLordOfTime> AntelopeSalad: will doing what make everything work again
[22:35] <TheLordOfTime> custom PPAs aren't pulled from the archive, if they're on LP they're pulled from ppa.launchpad.net
[22:35] <AntelopeSalad> changing the ubuntu archive to that gov one
[22:35] <TheLordOfTime> AntelopeSalad: except for ppas on launchpad, they're not on the archive mirrors (which anl.gov is, it's just another mirror)
[22:35] <AntelopeSalad> the error we were getting before has to do with key signing not working
[22:35] <sarnold> AntelopeSalad: you might want to try us-west-1 instead, since it might stll be metered special "within amazon"..
[22:36] <AntelopeSalad> ex. GPG error: http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates
[22:36] <TheLordOfTime> AntelopeSalad: i think your error is different from jamescarr's error
[22:36] <TheLordOfTime> jamescarr's getting 403s...
[22:36] <AntelopeSalad> we were trying to install redis through 2 different ppas
[22:36] <TheLordOfTime> gpg errors are a little different, but you could always try using the other mirror
[22:36] <AntelopeSalad> and we both couldn't get the keys to sign
[22:36] <jamescarr> I think switching to west works
[22:36] <AntelopeSalad> how can i switch to west?
[22:36] <TheLordOfTime> AntelopeSalad: FYI, PPAs won't be affected by you changing to us-west-1
[22:36] <jamescarr> just to have my puppet resources run in a different resource
[22:36] <jamescarr> er, order
[22:37] <jamescarr> AntelopeSalad: sed -i 's/east/west/g'  /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:37] <jamescarr> not sure your problem is the same
[22:37] <TheLordOfTime> AntelopeSalad: if you're using PPAs and you're having gpg problems with the PPAs, that's a whole separate issue, the raring-updates issues are probably mirror related (try us-west-1_
[22:37] <AntelopeSalad> TheLordOfTime: oh, but i could still install ruby and that takes like 30min on a micro instance
[22:37] <TheLordOfTime> AntelopeSalad: your GPG error *might* be fixable by siwtching to the us-west-1 mirrors
[22:37] <TheLordOfTime> but the PPA problems you're having aren't going to be fixed that way
[22:38] <TheLordOfTime> !ppa
[22:38] <TheLordOfTime> ^ that
[22:38] <AntelopeSalad> changing to west works for the normal apt-get packages
[22:38] <TheLordOfTime> ... whooooops... nginx FTBFS o.O
[22:38] <AntelopeSalad> that's a start for now, maybe the ppas will be working again in 30-45min
[22:39]  * TheLordOfTime digs up the buildlog to fix that
[22:45] <TheLordOfTime> oh, pffffft...
[22:45] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: ever make a mistake in a code change and leave out a semicolon or something, and cause the entire thing to FTBFS?
[22:46] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: yup. :)
[22:46] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold: that happened to me, hence the FTBFS 10 minutes ago in pbuilder :/
[22:46] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: if you're lucky it's quick, rather than an hour into a build..
[22:46] <TheLordOfTime> this one was 20 minutes into the build on pbuilder :/
[22:49] <jamescarr> TheLordOfTime: thanks
[22:50] <TheLordOfTime> you're welcoem.
[22:50] <TheLordOfTime> welcome*
[22:51] <jamescarr> nevermind no dice
[22:51] <jamescarr> but still thanks for the help fellas
[22:51] <jamescarr> time to drink!