MooDoo | morning all | 07:02 |
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shauno | trying to navigate a phone menu in dutch :/ considering it's supposed to be one of the closest related languages to english, I haven't heard a single sound I recognise yet | 07:08 |
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StrangeNoises | so, anyone else getting this or know how to fix it?: On Saucy, using Firefox, Youtube audio is disabled and un-turn-onnable (shows speaker+X in the player) but other flash audio works just fine, eg: bbc news/iplayer | 07:57 |
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czajkows1i | aloha | 08:06 |
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bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 08:09 |
JamesTait | Good morning all; happy World Post Day! :-D | 08:11 |
MooDoo | morning James bigcalm | 08:11 |
JamesTait | Hey MooDoo, bigcalm! :) | 08:13 |
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SuperMatt | morning all | 08:22 |
Myrtti | czajkowski: ping | 08:26 |
MooDoo | morning SuperMatt czajkowski Myrtti | 08:27 |
Myrtti | MooDoo: moin | 08:27 |
* DJones emails JamesTait a Happy world post day card | 08:27 | |
SuperMatt | would it be all right if I fell asleep here? | 08:28 |
MooDoo | SuperMatt: yes | 08:29 |
SuperMatt | awesome | 08:29 |
SuperMatt | nobody tell my boss, ok? | 08:30 |
czajkowski | Myrtti: pong | 08:31 |
JamesTait | DJones, aw, thanks. :) | 08:34 |
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Myrtti | I can't make head or tails of DVLA website | 09:25 |
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brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:32 |
BigRedS_ | Good Morning! | 09:43 |
MooDoo | morning | 09:43 |
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SuperMatt | morning morning morning | 09:48 |
SuperMatt | there's a lot of morninging going on today | 09:48 |
Laney | that wednesday feeling | 09:51 |
brobostigon | morning BigRedS and MooDoo and SuperMatt | 09:52 |
SuperMatt | what we need is some crunchies for that friday feeling | 09:52 |
SuperMatt | except I don't want chocolate because I've lost 4lbs this week | 09:52 |
brobostigon | and i cant have milk chocolate due to my diary allergies. | 09:54 |
SuperMatt | I have problems with diaries too | 09:54 |
SuperMatt | people keep stealing them and mocking me for having feelings | 09:54 |
MooDoo | SuperMatt: shall we just put you down now ;) | 09:55 |
SuperMatt | go ahead :( | 09:55 |
MooDoo | SuperMatt: come on dude I was teasing, keep ya chin up :) | 09:56 |
phillipshum | there's always soya | 09:57 |
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davmor2 | Morning all | 09:57 |
MooDoo | morning davmor2 | 09:57 |
davmor2 | Morning MooDoo how's life treatin ya | 09:58 |
MooDoo | davmor2: thanks, it's going ok at the moment | 09:58 |
czajkowski | ALOHA | 09:59 |
* czajkowski tickles davmor2 | 09:59 | |
davmor2 | MooDoo: make the scary woman go away | 09:59 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: Now knowing I'm not ticklish what the hell is the point in that ;) | 10:00 |
bigcalm | It's affectionate | 10:01 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: how's life? | 10:01 |
czajkowski | better than scowling! | 10:01 |
czajkowski | davmor2: busy and good | 10:01 |
czajkowski | paris and munich this weekend | 10:01 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: more like harassment :D | 10:01 |
bigcalm | em: ping | 10:02 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: I don't believe you :P you can't be in those two places at the same time | 10:02 |
czajkowski | back for a week then off to italy, | 10:02 |
czajkowski | then ireland for a week and NYC, Toronto to see my godson then I'm back to collect Bash :) | 10:02 |
bigcalm | Thought you had Bash already | 10:04 |
bigcalm | He looks cute | 10:04 |
MooDoo | davmor2: it can't be czajkowski you're talking about, she's wonderful :) | 10:04 |
brobostigon | any suggestions for a combined imap/smtp server ? | 10:04 |
bigcalm | gmail | 10:05 |
* bigcalm hides | 10:06 | |
davmor2 | brobostigon: postfix | 10:07 |
brobostigon | davmor2: i am just researching that one. | 10:07 |
davmor2 | brobostigon: look at the server guide it lists a couple | 10:07 |
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davmor2 | brobostigon: tell you how to install them and gives you a whole bunch of links to more docs | 10:08 |
brobostigon | thank you davmor2 | 10:08 |
MooDoo | brobostigon: what about simbra isn't that one too? | 10:09 |
brobostigon | MooDoo: thats a new one to me. | 10:10 |
MooDoo | http://www.zimbra.com/ | 10:10 |
davmor2 | brobostigon: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/email-services.html dovecot is the bit that makes the imap retrieval easy | 10:10 |
davmor2 | MooDoo: I was gonna say Zimbra :) | 10:10 |
brobostigon | davmor2: i just :) | 10:10 |
brobostigon | let me look. | 10:11 |
mgdm | I use Postfix for SMTP and Dovecot for IMAP, which is pretty easy to set up on Ubuntu | 10:11 |
mgdm | Zimbra is a bit... heavier :-) | 10:11 |
davmor2 | zimbra is basically an outlook replacement isn't it | 10:12 |
MooDoo | it's a complete solution not just a client. | 10:12 |
bigcalm | A complete server iirc | 10:13 |
bigcalm | In the same vein as mythbuntu | 10:13 |
davmor2 | mgdm: when you say a bit heavier, is that like comparing a mouse and an elephant and saying the elephant is a bit heavier? | 10:15 |
mgdm | davmor2: yeah, except the elephant grew up on Jupiter, so it's a lot more dense than it would be if it came from Earth... | 10:16 |
davmor2 | MooDoo: yeah I meant it was all the services and a web frontend that replicates what you get in outlook there is a client for it too I think so you can have the full mock outlook experience :) | 10:17 |
brobostigon | citadel seems packaged and in the repos, unlike zimbra. | 10:18 |
awilkins | I can mock Outlook without installing a server | 10:18 |
awilkins | But the sad part is that it's still better than Thunderbird | 10:18 |
davmor2 | awilkins: I preferred evolution but everyone else seemed to have issues with it :( | 10:19 |
awilkins | You'd think that Thunderbird + GMail would be a killer combo | 10:20 |
awilkins | But it still doesn't work properly | 10:20 |
awilkins | Things like searching for mail and you get double hits for everything | 10:20 |
BigRedS | I've just switched to Tbird last week | 10:22 |
BigRedS | the search in general is a bit odd, just for normal imap accounts | 10:22 |
davmor2 | I still hate that fact that if I want to have the same setup on more than one machine I have to copy a folder of multiple GB over instead of the setting of a few hundred MB and then to top it off it ignores the fact that you have a folder full of email and proceeds to down load them all again grrrrrrr | 10:24 |
BigRedS | there is no imap client that does imap properly | 10:25 |
BigRedS | imap isn't designed for downloading entire mailboxes, it's supposed to cache recent mail | 10:25 |
davmor2 | BigRedS: evolution handled it better Not ideally but certainly better | 10:27 |
BigRedS | Did it still insist on pretending to be a pop client and download your entire mailbox? | 10:30 |
BigRedS | Actually, webmail clients get IMAP right | 10:30 |
BigRedS | Hah, though with my new graphical mail client I can't get used to that highlighted envelope meaning "Unread mail or unread jabber" | 10:31 |
BigRedS | given the huge width of that bar (my entire screen) it seems a bit daft to use one icon for both... | 10:32 |
davmor2 | BigRedS: Claws is ugly but handles mail pretty well, it's search is kinda sucky but no worse than others. Also it's much much lighter | 10:34 |
BigRedS | davmor2: it still downloads all the mail doesn't it? | 10:50 |
BigRedS | I used claws for a while before mutt; the choice seemed to be between claws being a bit crashy and really clunky, and thunderbird being a memory hog | 10:51 |
davmor2 | BigRedS: I can't remember to be honest. I know it meant I had a usable netbook. Rather than 2 days of waiting on thunderbird to download all of my mail | 10:56 |
davmor2 | popey: you need to play more jamestown, I'd forgotten what a fun game it was :D | 10:59 |
popey | heh | 11:00 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: you too ^ | 11:02 |
bigcalm | Humm? | 11:02 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: honestly it's an old style scrolling kill fest, just lets you let off steam and puts a smile on your face :) | 11:06 |
bigcalm | Ah | 11:06 |
bigcalm | Ah, a pay for game | 11:06 |
MooDoo | davmor2: daley thompsons decathalon also does that, keyboard bashing :) | 11:06 |
bigcalm | Will wait for it to appear in a humble bundle | 11:07 |
bigcalm | Or steam | 11:07 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: I thought it was in a bundle | 11:07 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: have a look | 11:08 |
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bigcalm | davmor2: I guess not a bundle I bought | 11:08 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: that was why I pointed you at it :) | 11:08 |
bigcalm | Oh, tell a lie | 11:08 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: I think it was a bonus game | 11:08 |
bigcalm | I do have it :D | 11:08 |
bigcalm | I always pay above the average and so get the bonus games | 11:09 |
bigcalm | Does humble bundle no longer link to the USC? | 11:10 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: that last one didn't as they gave us no notice on it | 11:11 |
bigcalm | I also don't see a link to getting steam keys | 11:11 |
* bigcalm scratches his head | 11:12 | |
bigcalm | Ah, I was looking in the wrong place | 11:13 |
bigcalm | Such links are via the bundle pages rather than the overall library | 11:13 |
bigcalm | I see that Jamestown is not available via Steam for Linux | 11:17 |
mgdm | What about Jaynestown? | 11:18 |
bigcalm | davmor2: http://discworld.cuth.eu/dump/jamestown_usc_terms.png | 11:21 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: have you thought about a job in qa :D | 11:21 |
bigcalm | davmor2: jog on :P | 11:22 |
davmor2 | haha | 11:22 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: no idea why that hasn't shown up it should of | 11:22 |
Myrtti | I wish I could throw money at this problem and it would go away... meh | 11:30 |
davmor2 | Myrtti: you can you just need someone insane enough to take on the problem for the money :D | 11:31 |
Myrtti | yeah, I suppose | 11:31 |
Myrtti | I don't have that much personal funds to put on it though, I'd just want someone to take the mantle and I can offer some compensation for this one issue I have, or rather wishlist item | 11:32 |
Myrtti | and yes I've already passive-agressively complained about this on Google+ and Linkedin | 11:32 |
MooDoo | bigcalm: would you really want davmor2 as a boss? ;) | 11:33 |
Myrtti | zoink | 11:33 |
davmor2 | MooDoo: I don't wanna be a boss all they do is paperwork and meetings, no time to break stuff then | 11:36 |
MooDoo | davmor2: but you get to delagate stuff, it's fun. | 11:41 |
davmor2 | MooDoo: no in QA the fun is in the breaking erm testing I mean testing honest popey | 11:42 |
davmor2 | :D | 11:42 |
MooDoo | davmor2: be careful, you'll end up on UUKPC, so davmor2 tell us what you broke this time ;) | 11:43 |
davmor2 | MooDoo: the answer is always the same. Life the universe and everything | 11:43 |
MooDoo | 42? | 11:44 |
davmor2 | MooDoo: yeah I hate that number you can do far to much to it | 11:48 |
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AlanBell | bug 181727 | 13:13 |
lubotu3 | bug 181727 in diogenes (Ubuntu) "package diogenes 0.9.20-2 failed to install/upgrade: subproces post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 1 terug" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181727 | 13:13 |
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MooDoo | join #fedora-meeting | 13:18 |
MooDoo | oops ;) | 13:18 |
davmor2 | MooDoo: traitor ;) | 13:19 |
SuperMatt | why would you do that? | 13:19 |
MooDoo | sorry my bad, ignore it | 13:19 |
MooDoo | davmor2: and :p to you | 13:19 |
SuperMatt | has it been decided if 14.04 will track gnome 3.8 for 14.04 or if it will go to 3.10? | 13:21 |
davmor2 | MooDoo: I couldn't resist :D | 13:21 |
MooDoo | davmor2: I know I know :p | 13:22 |
popey | tsk tsk tsk | 13:22 |
* MooDoo hangs head in shame.....must think before I type | 13:22 | |
* SuperMatt notes there are a lot of "tiger" suggestions for the 14.04 codename, but I have a feeling that won't be picked, because then it steps on the feet of OSX (despite OSX having named their new version Mavericks" | 13:25 | |
SuperMatt | ) | 13:25 |
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davmor2 | SuperMatt: I still want Teenage_mutant_ninja Turtles | 13:27 |
SuperMatt | Turtle would imply slowness | 13:27 |
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SuperMatt | although a turtle could also be considered stable... | 13:28 |
ali1234 | i am still angry about jackalope not being a real animal | 13:28 |
ali1234 | i mean where does it stop | 13:28 |
ali1234 | next it will be plants | 13:28 |
SuperMatt | well... there really aren't that many J animals | 13:28 |
ali1234 | there are loads | 13:29 |
SuperMatt | yes, you're right | 13:30 |
SuperMatt | I'm being silly :( | 13:30 |
mgdm | jiraffe! :P | 13:30 |
SuperMatt | offt | 13:31 |
SuperMatt | *p | 13:31 |
bigcalm | Jeffrey the corn snake | 13:31 |
popey | Tribbles! | 13:31 |
ali1234 | yesterday i learned that turtles are like sharks in that they have been around for ages in a pretty much unchanged state | 13:32 |
ali1234 | 22Ma for turtles but 44Ma for shark | 13:33 |
ali1234 | s | 13:33 |
Bastian1_ | hello | 13:49 |
davmor2 | popey: troublesome tribbles | 13:54 |
popey | exactly | 14:00 |
AlanBell | ali1234: horseshoe crabs 450Ma | 14:08 |
brobostigon | am i dim, or is/are postfix/exim almost impossible to setup. | 14:09 |
directhex | brobostigon, depend on how complex your setup is | 14:13 |
brobostigon | it isnt complex at all, imap was a doddle. all i am trying to achieve is to get smtp to have some authentication, really. so only certain people can send email through it. | 14:14 |
mgdm | brobostigon: what are you using for SMTP? | 14:26 |
brobostigon | mgdm: i have tried both exim and postfix, get the same result on both upto now, i am now reading through exim's logs, | 14:27 |
mgdm | brobostigon: Ah. I know how to do it on Postfix. | 14:28 |
brobostigon | mgdm: ok, i will reinstall postfix, then. | 14:28 |
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brobostigon | mgdm: ok, fire away, what do i do, please. | 14:31 |
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mgdm | brobostigon: one sec | 14:47 |
brobostigon | mgdm: thank you. | 14:47 |
mgdm | brobostigon: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/postfix.html#postfix-smtp-authentication | 14:48 |
mgdm | brobostigon: that's how I did it | 14:48 |
mgdm | (the entire page is worth a read, btu that's the specific bit I did) | 14:48 |
brobostigon | mgdm: ok, i think i have already read and followed that, let me try it again. | 14:48 |
mgdm | brobostigon: if you get stuck let me know, I'll see if I can help | 14:48 |
brobostigon | mgdm: ok, thank you. | 14:49 |
Madam1 | hey darren you there? | 14:59 |
brobostigon | mgdm: ok, that section in dovecot.conf it mentions doesnt exist. | 15:27 |
mgdm | brobostigon: can you pastebin what you have just now? | 15:27 |
brobostigon | mgdm: in dovecot.conf ? | 15:28 |
mgdm | brobostigon: aye | 15:29 |
brobostigon | mgdm: http://paste.debian.net/54360/ | 15:29 |
mgdm | brobostigon: are there any more conf files in /etc/dovecot? | 15:30 |
brobostigon | ls | 15:31 |
brobostigon | conf.d dovecot-db.conf.ext dovecot.pem private | 15:31 |
brobostigon | dovecot.conf dovecot-dict-sql.conf.ext dovecot-sql.conf.ext README | 15:31 |
mgdm | oh, fun | 15:32 |
brobostigon | why? | 15:32 |
mgdm | erm. it might be in one of the others? | 15:32 |
mgdm | they've split all the files up since I've last looked | 15:32 |
brobostigon | what am i looking for? | 15:32 |
shauno | I have most of those on mine too, they're pure comment. the only files actually being referenced should be an include conf.d/* in dovecot.conf | 15:34 |
mgdm | any reference to 'auth default' | 15:34 |
brobostigon | mgdm: ok, let me look. | 15:34 |
brobostigon | mgdm: it seems the new server guide describes those file seperations. | 15:49 |
mgdm | brobostigon: ah, cool | 15:50 |
brobostigon | and it still wont work, :( | 15:51 |
popey | directhex: OMG! Cook, Serve, Delicious looks awesome! | 16:13 |
popey | Are those keyboard shortcuts to do stuff? | 16:13 |
JohnRobert | hello | 16:15 |
directhex | popey, i guess | 16:18 |
popey | hello JohnRobert | 16:21 |
davmor2 | JohnRobert: hello | 16:28 |
directhex | Mad Catz ship their own Ouya alternative for £220. Or about £80 more than a PS3 or a 360. | 16:43 |
popey | WHO!? | 16:45 |
popey | oh, mojo | 16:45 |
ali1234 | you can get a ps3 for £130? | 16:45 |
directhex | i did some averaging. a 360 is £130, a ps3 is £150 | 16:46 |
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Laney | YAY new bottle of sriracha | 19:57 |
bigcalm | Good evening peeps :) | 20:01 |
brobostigon | evening bigcalm | 20:01 |
bigcalm | What's happening, brobostigon ? | 20:02 |
brobostigon | sitting infront of the tv, with a bottle of red and biscuits. | 20:02 |
bigcalm | Funtastic | 20:06 |
SuperEngineer | brobostigon: sitting in front of the bottle of red with a tv with biscuits on top. | 20:06 |
brobostigon | lol | 20:07 |
bigcalm | I have a glass of red and a laptop to keep me sane while Hayley watching Strictly It Takes 2 | 20:09 |
brobostigon | thats works, :) | 20:14 |
mgdm | hmmm, glass of red | 20:15 |
mgdm | brobostigon: how'd you get on with postfix? | 20:15 |
brobostigon | mgdm: still wont work, no errors or anything, just cant get any smtp capable client to connect to it, without error. | 20:16 |
brobostigon | no errors server side. | 20:16 |
mgdm | brobostigon: oh :( | 20:16 |
brobostigon | so i dont really know how to procede. | 20:17 |
mgdm | hmm. | 20:17 |
brobostigon | anything i can pastebin or such, that might help? | 20:18 |
mgdm | well, I'm not at work any more, so I'm less distracted :-) | 20:18 |
mgdm | try /etc/postfix/main.cf for starters? | 20:18 |
brobostigon | one second, | 20:19 |
brobostigon | mgdm: http://paste.debian.net/54540/ | 20:19 |
mgdm | brobostigon: can you do 'netstat -plnt' and pastebin that too? | 20:20 |
brobostigon | mgdm: one minute. | 20:21 |
brobostigon | can i pipe that output into pastebinit? | 20:21 |
mgdm | worth a shot, yes - actually, run it under sudo | 20:22 |
brobostigon | netstat -plnt > pastebinit ? | 20:22 |
mgdm | sudo netstat -plnt | pastebinit | 20:22 |
mgdm | (that won't run pastebinit under sudo) | 20:22 |
brobostigon | ok, one second. | 20:22 |
brobostigon | sudo su ? | 20:22 |
brobostigon | then run it. | 20:22 |
mgdm | no, just paste what i wrote | 20:22 |
mgdm | it'll work | 20:23 |
brobostigon | ok, | 20:23 |
brobostigon | http://paste.debian.net/54543/ | 20:23 |
mgdm | right, so the master process is running, and listening on 0.0.0.0:25 - can you connect to it with telnet? (telnet your.host.name 25) - you should get some text | 20:24 |
brobostigon | yes, that connects. | 20:24 |
mgdm | odd | 20:25 |
brobostigon | agreed, from what i read, it should work. | 20:26 |
mgdm | I'm afraid I'm stuck, without access to the machine | 20:26 |
brobostigon | any ideas what i can check myself? | 20:27 |
mgdm | there's a handy tool called 'swaks' | 20:27 |
mgdm | maybe see if it's apt-gettable | 20:27 |
brobostigon | yes, i already installed that. | 20:28 |
mgdm | does it work? | 20:28 |
brobostigon | not done any tests using that yet. | 20:29 |
mgdm | worth a bash | 20:29 |
brobostigon | ok, let me try. | 20:30 |
brobostigon | ok, an email sent, using swaks to my gmail worked. | 20:34 |
brobostigon | that worked aswell, sending an email to postfix using swaks from my other vps. | 20:45 |
mgdm | ah ha± | 20:46 |
brobostigon | woop, working, yay. | 21:50 |
mgdm | brobostigon: woo | 21:59 |
brobostigon | mgdm: i found out, the mailbox dovecot was refferring to was wrong, ie changed to /var/mail/%u , i still havent got smtp authentication to work. | 22:00 |
mgdm | hmmm. | 22:00 |
mgdm | what happens when you try...? | 22:00 |
brobostigon | let me try, with which security etc client side? | 22:02 |
brobostigon | i get the followinf error, "(megative smtp reply: 454 4.7.0 tls not available due to local problem)" | 22:05 |
diddledan | brobostigon: that means the ssl isn't configured right - maybe it can't read (permissions) the certificate or key | 22:15 |
brobostigon | diddledan: ok, how do i fix it? please. | 22:15 |
diddledan | o_o | 22:16 |
bigcalm | Self signed cert? | 22:17 |
bigcalm | Maybe it doesn't like it? | 22:17 |
mgdm | nah, self-signed works fine | 22:17 |
diddledan | brobostigon: you need to check the permissions on /etc/ssl/certs/smtpd.crt and /etc/ssl/private/smtpd.key | 22:19 |
brobostigon | diddledan: which permission do they need to be? | 22:20 |
diddledan | I don't recall whether postfix starts the ssl stuff under root account, see, so it may need to be owned by postfix | 22:21 |
mgdm | I think it does use root, because my certs are shared by dovecot and postfix | 22:21 |
brobostigon | ok, so i just change them to be owned by root ? | 22:22 |
diddledan | brobostigon: what are the permissions on the smtpd.key file? | 22:25 |
brobostigon | one moment. | 22:25 |
diddledan | afaict they need to be either 400 or 600 | 22:25 |
diddledan | or at a pinch 440 or 640 | 22:26 |
diddledan | there should be an error message suggesting what the problem is related to in /var/log/something_maybe_mail.log? | 22:29 |
brobostigon | thats just where i am searching through. | 22:30 |
diddledan | if not in there, then mail.err | 22:31 |
Azelphur | What's the most open and cross platform / easily available compression method? | 22:33 |
Azelphur | probably zip? | 22:33 |
mgdm | open? doubt it | 22:33 |
Azelphur | isn't zip open? | 22:33 |
mgdm | tar/gzip would take the cake there, I guess | 22:33 |
popey | gzip | 22:33 |
mgdm | I didn't think so | 22:33 |
diddledan | there is no open and cross platform | 22:33 |
Azelphur | I see | 22:33 |
popey | lies | 22:33 |
mgdm | I thought it had been reverse-engineered | 22:34 |
popey | tar and gzip exist in basically everything | 22:34 |
diddledan | windows can't do gzip out of the box | 22:34 |
popey | he didnt say OOTB | 22:34 |
Azelphur | yea, doesn't need to be OOTB | 22:34 |
popey | self extracting lharc! | 22:34 |
diddledan | in that case then, yes gzip potentially with tar | 22:34 |
popey | :D | 22:34 |
popey | or arj! | 22:34 |
diddledan | eww | 22:35 |
diddledan | those are esoteric | 22:35 |
* popey remembers a 3.5" floppy disk he had 20 years ago with every compression tool on | 22:35 | |
Azelphur | the goal being that I'd basically ship the thing that did the unzipping | 22:35 |
Azelphur | so, it doesn't matter, so long as I can bundle it with my thing | 22:35 |
popey | i was not being serious diddledan ☻ | 22:35 |
popey | SAP tried to make a cross platform compression tool | 22:35 |
popey | well, they kinda succeeded | 22:36 |
popey | because there wasn't one at the time | 22:36 |
popey | .CAR files.. later .SAR files | 22:36 |
popey | and they made their own tool, sapcar. | 22:36 |
mgdm | i suppose it's indicative that people haven't heard of them :-) | 22:36 |
diddledan | microsoft .cab files ftw! :-p | 22:36 |
popey | only used by SAP for distributing their own patches (which are huge, so need compression) | 22:37 |
popey | and we used to have to get them from an ftp server in germany | 22:37 |
diddledan | had to be germany | 22:37 |
popey | 147.204.2.5 ☻ | 22:37 |
diddledan | you remember that?! | 22:37 |
popey | an IP that sticks in my mind | 22:37 |
popey | ya | 22:37 |
popey | same IP was in use for years | 22:38 |
mgdm | I still remember Madasafish's DNS servers from my very first job, as dialup tech support | 22:38 |
diddledan | I have enough trouble remembering current IPs | 22:38 |
mgdm | 212.38.173.11 and 212.38.173.12 | 22:38 |
Azelphur | diddledan: pfft | 22:38 |
Azelphur | diddledan: I'm a diagnosed Aspy, I have numeric sequences that are like a hundred digit long I can recall. | 22:38 |
diddledan | Azelphur: that could be quite handy | 22:39 |
Azelphur | I do it sometimes to freak people out | 22:39 |
mgdm | thing is, I can't remember the production web server IPs that I deal with every day of the week for the last 3.5yrs | 22:39 |
Azelphur | diddledan: *shrug* I haven't found a use beyond party trick | 22:39 |
diddledan | Azelphur: and party tricks aren't handy? :-p | 22:39 |
Azelphur | well, true :) | 22:39 |
Azelphur | I just write it down on something (my phone or something) hand the phone away, and then recite the number that's on the screen, without looking at it | 22:39 |
diddledan | what you want is to memorise a whole party's credit card numbers :-p | 22:39 |
Azelphur | freaks people out :D | 22:40 |
popey | you need to go to more parties | 22:40 |
popey | clearly | 22:40 |
Azelphur | haha | 22:40 |
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