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Dr_Willishmm00:04
Dr_Willislag or did it get quiet?00:04
monkeyjuicei was taking a nap dont know00:06
Dr_Williswake up! :)00:07
Dr_Willisbeen getting a lot of lag on freenode lately. Not sure what the deal is.00:07
monkeyjuicegood here00:07
Scunizicd ~/.qgis2/00:10
Scunizils00:10
kostkonScunizi, wrong text field :P00:11
Scunizikostkon: yep00:11
CoderGirl42when i log out of my user the login screen automatically logs me in after 30 seconds. is there a way to disable that?00:13
jfmariois there anything better than everpad for syncing evernote on ubuntu? anyone know of any evernote plans for linux?00:16
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edge226what kernel does ubuntu 12.04 come with?00:18
Ben64newer installs of 12.04 have raring's kernel00:18
edge226Ben64: which means?00:19
Ben64which means the answer to your question is "it depends"00:19
cjwelborni have the latest update on raring and i'm on 3.11 , but you may not be. (i downloaded the dev version)00:20
edge226Ben64: well which one comes on the livecd?00:20
Ben6412.04.what00:21
edge22612.04.300:21
Ben64i'd imagine it'd be raring's kernel on there then..00:21
Ben64!info linux-image00:21
ubottulinux-image (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.0.31.49 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 33 kB00:21
kostkonjfmario, http://insights.ubuntu.com/news/creating-evernote-on-ubuntu-for-smartphones/00:22
edge226k cool that one will probably work.00:22
OerHeks!info linux-image precise00:22
ubottulinux-image (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0.54.64 (precise), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB00:22
acidrainjrhello does anyone know what chat room to go to for support on sparkylinux00:23
OerHeksonly with backports i think, Ben6400:23
kostkonOerHeks, nope00:23
kostkonOerHeks, 12.04.3 iso comes with raring stack00:23
wilee-nileeacidrainjr, I don't see a specific chanel ##linux is a general channel if you are registered.00:24
OerHeksacidrainjr, http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=sparky00:26
acidrainjr well there are certian rooms for the distros and i need to find one for sparkylinux00:26
wilee-nileeacidrainjr, look on the web00:26
edge226acidrainjr: check there site, it may be on another IRC server.00:27
Ben64acidrainjr: well its not #ubuntu , maybe you shouldn't use a distro so small if you need specific support00:27
PimpSmurfI am in heap big doo doo. I made a backup of an lv snapshot of my root folder and my /boot (which seems to have been in root anyway)00:27
qinacidrainjr: http://sparkylinux.org/forum/ ask there?00:28
PimpSmurfI'm trying to restore grub so I can boot but when I try and reboot, it drops me to a grub partition and I can't type "boot" because it says I need a kernel.00:28
acidrainjrwell its just one problem im having the rst i was able to fix but this idk how00:28
PimpSmurfWas I suppose to DD the /dev/sda1 boot partition (the ~256M partition)? Is there any way for me to recover?00:28
wilee-nileePimpSmurf, if it was the boot partition yes00:28
Jordan_UPimpSmurf: You should never use dd to try to restore grub. What guide were you following?00:29
PimpSmurfby boot partition, do you mean /boot or something else? I have /boot. I don't have something else.00:29
Jordan_Uwilee-nilee: You should never use dd to try to restore grub. Use grub-install to install grub.00:29
Ben64Jordan_U: not always true, you can back up the mbr and restore it using dd00:29
PimpSmurfJordan_U: I'm talking about dd if=/dev/sda1 of=boot-backup.bin00:29
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xirreIf a filetype on Ubuntu has no file extension, can it be a security risk still? (In terms of viruses and other bad things)00:30
PimpSmurfI have the partitions recreated and the root filesystem untar'd, but I can't get grub to boot after doing a chroot update-grub00:30
wilee-nileeJordan_U, I know the answer was should they have copied the sda1, at 256 MB looks like a boot partition is all.00:30
Dr_Willisxirre:  in general linux dosent care about the extensions at all.00:30
Jordan_Uwilee-nilee: That is not the answer.00:30
Dr_Willisxirre:  i dont see why it would be 'more' of a security risk at all00:31
PimpSmurfxirre: yes a program or other executable could have no extention at all00:31
PimpSmurfxirre: or could be called .txt or .avi if you are in a shell. don't execute untrusted programs, no matter their extention.00:31
edge226where are the checksums for the images?00:31
Ben64!md5 | edge22600:31
ubottuedge226: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows00:31
Dr_Williswine is setup to double check that that any windows.exe has the executable bit as a 'slight' bit of added security00:32
Jordan_UPimpSmurf: This method is the most reliable and least prone to user error: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot00:32
wilee-nileeJordan_U, Mine was a general answer I made only one, I know grub, it was directed at if you save a OS you should save all of it, I did not say this was a grub recovery answer.00:32
Jordan_UPimpSmurf: You backed up the wrong sector (should have been the MBR), but even then, the best way to install grub is via grub-install, not by backing up boot sectors as there are many factors that need to be taken into account (possible changed partition numbering and writes to the embedding area among them).00:33
wilee-nileePimpSmurf, follow Jordan_U they are the one of the best at this stuff.00:34
xirreIs there anyway to lock off a folder from the rest of the computer? So that all files in there can only access specific programs?00:34
Jordan_Uxirre: You mean can only be accessed by other programs?00:35
PimpSmurfJordan_U: I'll give it one more shot. I did most of that. I'm installing to a raid virtual drive so I'm not sure if that changes things.00:35
xirreHere's a scenario.00:35
Jordan_UPimpSmurf: What do you mean by "virtual drive"? Is this FakeRAID, MDRAID, or Hardware Raid? Are you using a virtual machine or bare metal?00:36
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xirreI have a program that wants to access the root folder. But its files that it wants to access are in /home/user/ProgramFIles/application.ext . So it doesn't really need to go browsing through root. It just needs to only be able to check ProgramFiles.00:37
xirreHow do I make all the applications in that folder only have the ability to view/access certain contents? Kind of like a way from preventing a program from wiping your hard drive or going into private sections of your hard drive to retrieve important data.00:38
Jordan_Uxirre: What do you mean by "wants to access the root folder"? What program is this? What is your end goal?00:38
xirreTo enclose off a folder so the applications in it don't harm my computer (Because it's someone elses folder.)00:39
xirreLike how non administrative users can't view root! That's a good example.00:39
Dr_Willis!permissions | xirre00:40
ubottuxirre: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions00:40
Dr_Willisxirre:  learn the basic permissions system., then if you need finer control theres the ACL stuff. (which i never really use)00:41
Dr_Willis!acl00:41
Dr_Willisnot even sure what factoid is for it. if any00:41
Jordan_Uxirre: Why not run this application as an unprivileged user? Can you please answer my other questions?00:41
blackkittyThe touchpad for a lenovo x230 was working after an install of 12.04 x64, but after an update and reboot, the touchpad stopped working.  I have tried downgrading to an older kernel (3.2.something from 3.5.0-23-generic) but that didn't work.  gpointing-device-settings does not have the 'disable' checkbox set (so it should be enabled).  Any suggestions on how to enable this touchpad?  Any suggestions on where to look or what else to do?00:41
xirreDreamDaemon - I'm using it to run servers. Why?00:41
wilee-nileeblackkitty, Did the update include a kernel, and if so have you tried the one that worked from the grub menu?00:42
xirreUsers can upload their files but currently I'm only allowing 4 file types. .dmb .rsc .txt and .sav00:42
xirreI want to allow them to do what they want with it while also not putting myself at risk.00:42
xirreAnd in terms of file permissions, that involves chmod right?00:42
blackkittywilee-nilee, yes, sorry.  I forget which exactly were installed (I can check if you like) but they were both 3.2.something and I booted into them both without success00:43
blackkitty(There were two different 3.2.somthing kernels installed)00:43
wilee-nileeblackkitty, Cool, saying a update and "something" is rather vague is all, have you looked on askubuntu for answers?00:45
Jordan_Uxirre: If you're allowing them to upload files which are in an area where they might be executed by any user other than themselves you have big security issues already, which are not helped by your limit on extentions / file types.00:45
comodo_dragonbocaneri00:46
xirreSoo.. Where should I put them then?00:46
blackkittywilee-nilee, http://askubuntu.com/questions/266717/lenovo-x230-trackpad-stopped-working00:46
blackkitty0 answers00:46
Jordan_Uxirre: If you're only allowing them to upload files to their own home directory, and they're unpriviliged users, then you're fine.00:46
xirreThis is how it works..00:46
PimpSmurfJordan_U: My bios boot partition wasn't set to the correct type =*(00:47
xirreThe server is ran in /home/xirre/Desktop/Hosting/World Control00:47
PimpSmurfJordan_U: Thanks for the help. It seems to be booted now! :D00:47
xirreIn World Control is a foldr named Servers00:47
Jordan_UPimpSmurf: You're welcome.00:47
xirreIn servers are their usernames.00:47
xirreAnd in their username folder are their folders of the servers they want hosted.00:47
wilee-nileeblackkitty, Is that your post?00:47
xirreIn those folders are their files.00:47
xirreI need to lock off their Usernames folder.00:48
Jordan_Uxirre: Then you're done as far as the uploading of files goes, now you should concentrate on ensuring that these users really are properly isolated and unable to access things they shouldn't have access to.00:48
Jordan_Uxirre: Don't think about locking their home directory, think about restricting their permissions and abilities as users.00:48
xirreThat's where I need help with. Been looking around a lot lately on how to put a wall on each folder.00:48
Jordan_Uxirre: Do you understand the difference?00:50
SteveH_I clobbered myself by not thinking thru a rm -r /var/lib/* command. I reinstalled 12.04, and have slowly built back up. However, my Unity sidebar has a problem whereby some of the icons do not show. The pop-out names are there, but no icon. Missing icons include terminal, BackinTime, Workspace Switcher, System Monitor and Trash. They work, but are invisible.00:50
blackkittywilee-nilee, no.  3.2.0-23-generic and 3.2.0-35-generic are the ones I tried00:50
xirreDifference betweeen?00:50
xirreLocking and restricting?00:50
Jordan_Uxirre: The difference between trying to "restrict their home directory" (which doesn't make much sense) and trying to restrict their users.00:51
wilee-nilee's stuffblackkitty, Use with caution, but here is a lenovo PPA, if you are not served by this you can use ppa-purge to remove it and all it's part generally. https://launchpad.net/~jamesf/+archive/lenovofixes00:52
wilee-nileeblackkitty, Above for you the copy paste put letters before you nick is all00:53
xirreNot really. They still need to be able to create their own files in their folder. I was thinking about preventing the write function with chmod but.. I think that would prevent them from writing inside their own folder..00:53
wilee-nileeblackkitty, In general I am seeing people not happy with that trackpad in multiple OS's on the web.00:54
SamizdatguyHey all, I'm trying to manually install an hp printer driver because their install program keeps crapping out.00:54
xirreAnd not only that, they're not connected via users. The World Control folder contains a program (Like an operating system) that controls everything.00:54
SamizdatguyBut, I can't get it to select the exact plugin I need.00:54
blackkittywilee-nilee, this is a single boot system.  How do I add the ppa and then grab the appropriate packages?00:54
xirreThrough World Control they can upload and delete their servers. So world control needs to be able to write to their folder.. Hmm..00:55
wilee-nileeSamizdatguy, You tried the drivers in printer?00:55
blackkittysingle boot, as in only linux is installed00:55
SamizdatguyThe drivers in the Printer, wilee-nilee?00:55
fahadash!java00:55
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.00:55
wilee-nileeblackkitty, The PPA tells you how to install it, just run a update and upgrade I would assume.00:55
Martinlemaitreg00:55
MartinlemaitreAnyone here00:55
wilee-nileeSamizdatguy, Open printer and see if it finds the drivers or has them listed.00:56
SamizdatguyOh yeah, their automated install keeps crapping out.00:56
Jordan_Uxirre: Does the "World Control Server" ever execute anything found in user's directories?00:56
Martinlemaitreanyone mind walking through something with an ubuntu noob00:56
wilee-nilee!ppa-purge | blackkitty be aware of this00:56
ubottublackkitty be aware of this: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html00:56
SamizdatguyThat's why I want to install them manually.00:56
blackkittyok, thanks wilee-nilee00:57
wilee-nileeSamizdatguy, Use nicks here, and who is their?00:57
Martinlemaitreanyone mind walking through something with an ubuntu noob00:57
kostkon!ask | Martinlemaitre00:57
wilee-nilee!details | Martinlemaitre ask the question00:57
ubottuMartinlemaitre: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:57
ubottuMartinlemaitre ask the question: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."00:57
Martinlemaitrehow do i install the packages on the !java link00:57
Martinlemaitrei never installed anything on here00:58
SamizdatguyHP, wilee-nilee, the printer manufacturer.00:58
hoverboard!java00:58
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.00:58
wilee-nileeMartinlemaitre, what jave link?00:58
wilee-nileejava*00:58
fahadash!java | Martinlemaitre00:58
ubottuMartinlemaitre: please see above00:58
Martinlemaitrethat one above00:58
Martinlemaitrei clicked there...00:58
Martinlemaitrei dont know how to install the damn package..00:58
Martinlemaitreand i ask that and you tell me to just go there again00:58
Martinlemaitreit just says00:58
Martinlemaitrechoose an application00:58
manishhi00:59
Martinlemaitreand i dont know what application to use!00:59
wilee-nileeSamizdatguy, Have you tried the drivers in the repo from the printer app, if there are any?00:59
Martinlemaitresigh, ubuntu u r pissing me off00:59
xirreJordan_U: It only executes the start up procedure. Everything from then on is ran by the program that is hosted by my server.00:59
fahadashMartinlemaitre: I guess you are pretty stressed out00:59
Martinlemaitrei am just gonna go install windows 7...00:59
Martinlemaitrethis stuff is too complicateds00:59
xirreDreamDaemon is a program that hosts games. I'm running a small business to contribute to the development community by hosting servers for multiple people.01:00
Samizdatguywilee-nilee: Are you reading what I write?  Yes, there's a problem with their install script, I think. This is why I want to install it manually.01:00
pepeeMartinlemaitre, which version of the jdk?01:00
kostkonMartinlemaitre, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware01:00
Martinlemaitrewhatever one i need to write java programs..01:00
xirreAnd World Control is hosted by DreamDaemon. When a user clicks Start Server, World Control runs a shell command, "DreamDaemon [PATH] [PORT] [OPTIONS]"01:00
hoverboardpepee stop ya trollin01:01
fahadashMartinlemaitre: I didn't believe what you said about the help link and I was right... You are looking for a "quick"  or a command with switches that you can run and get things done without having to read01:01
kostkonMartinlemaitre, you need first to learn how to install apps in ubuntu01:01
wilee-nileeblackkitty, No problem, generally we don't advise PPA's here, so I included the ppa-purge info so you are fully orientated for problems if anymore arise.01:01
pepeehoverboard, ??01:01
Dr_Willis!manual01:01
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/01:01
Martinlemaitre.why is everything so confusig01:01
Martinlemaitresigh01:01
Martinlemaitreit was never like this with bill01:01
xirreJordan_U: Did you get all that?01:01
fahadashhoverboard: Are you from jax ?01:01
wilee-nileeSamizdatguy, Yes I have read what you have posted it is confusing and most have no nick, so chill, and be clear.01:02
Dr_Willisit pays to learn your tools01:02
AmarandaXMartinlemaitre: I would recommend a google search for How to's.  There are several really good ones for how to install on ubuntu/how to install java...etc...01:02
Martinlemaitresoftware centre isnt showing me java01:02
kostkonMartinlemaitre, search for openjdk. it's good enough for the majority of cases01:03
fahadashMartinlemaitre: http://tinyurl.com/lsbompl01:03
Samizdatguywilee-nilee: HP is telling me this as it attempts to download and install its own drivers: Checking for network connection... Downloading plug-in from: None01:03
AmarandaXit won't Martinlemaitre....you need two things to write with java.  The JDK and the JRE01:04
Martinlemaitreffs01:04
Martinlemaitrehow do i get those?01:04
AmarandaXMartinlemaitre: are you following any kind of a guide?01:04
Martinlemaitrei see OpenJDK runtime 7 in software centre01:04
Martinlemaitrei downloaded it01:04
Martinlemaitreis that what i need01:04
blackkittywilee-nilee, I've installed the trackpoint-psmouse-reload...do you know how I should use it?01:04
AmarandaXThat will get you started.  But then you need something to write your code in.  I would recommend Eclipse or Netbeans for Java programming01:05
Martinlemaitrei downloaded eclipse01:05
Martinlemaitrebut the install button isnt working..01:05
pepeeyou didn't need to download anything01:05
Martinlemaitremaybe i need more ROM01:05
pepeethe package manager does that for you01:05
pepeefollow this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html01:06
Martinlemaitrepackage manager? what the hell is that01:06
wilee-nileeblackkitty, Not really I don't own that computer, however on my toshiba I have a touchpad app that shows in the top panel in the gnome shell.01:06
comodo_dragonyano01:06
Martinlemaitreits already in software centre why is that no okay01:06
yanocomodo_dragon: what01:06
pepeeMartinlemaitre, then run: sudo apt-get install eclipse01:06
Martinlemaitrerun where01:06
kostkonMartinlemaitre, search for it in the software centre01:06
pepeeMartinlemaitre, in a console01:06
fahadashMartinlemaitre: Terminal01:06
pepee^01:06
Martinlemaitrethat helps...01:06
Martinlemaitreif i know...01:06
Martinlemaitrewhat is a terminal..01:07
morten771Martinlemaitre: package manger is the program that downloads software for you. checks what other software a program you are installing needs etc01:07
Martinlemaitreso what am i doing wrong if i just downloaded OpenJDK runtime 7 and eclipse01:07
Martinlemaitrein software centre01:07
pepeewell, I dunno where is the terminal in unity..01:07
kostkonMartinlemaitre, nothing01:07
fahadashMartinlemaitre: Click on that button with a Circle on it, and type "Terminal"01:07
kostkonMartinlemaitre, you are ready then01:07
wilee-nileeblackkitty, With a install of a new app, and if the trackpad does not just work again I would do a reboot to make sure any drivers get loaded, just a general method really.01:07
MartinlemaitreHow cna I make it so whenever i open that thing fahadash it doesnt show everyone around me what recent porn ive been looking at?01:08
Phlunk3poke their eyes out01:08
kostkonMartinlemaitre, in system settings click on Privacy01:08
fahadashMartinlemaitre: Are you for real ?01:08
Martinlemaitrei had to open a report in class and my friend was looking at my screen waiting so i went to search and I got a big fat "RECENT FILES: Belladonnas Black Ass Pirates 4"01:08
Martinlemaitrehe just chuckled01:08
pepeejava porn ftw01:09
kostkonMartinlemaitre, upper right on the gear icon, then System Settings...01:09
fahadashpepee: LoL01:09
MartinlemaitreOkay, i installed openJDK in software center and now its disappeared...how do I opening it?01:09
wilee-nilee!ot | pepee01:09
ubottupepee: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:09
jfmariohahahaa01:09
pepeeMartinlemaitre, did you run the terminal?01:09
kostkonMartinlemaitre, you launch eclipse and start coding01:09
wilee-nileenot even funny this is a world wide family channel.01:09
pepeesorry wilee-nilee01:10
Martinlemaitrehes right01:10
Martinlemaitrethis is for familys01:10
fahadashMartinlemaitre: What do you say to the person who asks how to hide his porn in a family channel ?01:10
Dr_WillisMartinlemaitre:  open what? software center? or openJDK?01:10
Martinlemaitreopen JDK01:10
pepeeMartinlemaitre, open the terminal... and run "javac"01:10
Martinlemaitrewhatever that is01:10
Martinlemaitrerun javac01:11
Martinlemaitreor type javac01:11
pepeetype   javac -version        and press enter01:11
Martinlemaitrethe program javac can be found in the01:11
Martinlemaitrefollowing packages01:11
Martinlemaitredefault jdk ecj gcj blha blah01:11
Martinlemaitretype sudo apt-get install selected package01:12
pepeecool, you installed it but it will not find it... better try the other, simpler method01:12
Martinlemaitredo i gotta install any packages01:12
blackkittywilee-nilee - your suggestion worked. thanks again for your help!01:12
pepeeMartinlemaitre, yes. type this:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java01:12
Martinlemaitrewat u mean it will not find it01:12
wilee-nileeblackkitty, Cool, it seemed a ppa was the choice, good luck. ;)01:12
Martinlemaitrea bunch of shit is running now pepee01:12
blackkittywilee-nilee ^_^01:12
pepeeyou said you installed openjdk, ... I guess you have to configure the path to the executable01:13
pepeeMartinlemaitre, it should ask you to press enter, do it01:13
Martinlemaitrenow nothings happening01:13
HiDeHoMartinlemaitre: watch language01:13
Martinlemaitrewhat did i do01:13
Martinlemaitreits cause i mentioned windows isnt it01:13
Martinlemaitreim sorry for swearing01:13
morten771I have a problem with my log files filling up with an error "data ntfs-3g[1640]: ntfs_attr_pread error reading '/WINDOWS/$NtUninstallKB823182$/spuninst/spuninst.exe' at offset 0: 4096 <> -1: Value too large for defined data type" "Failed to decompress file: Value too large for defined data type" anyone know what I can do to stop that?01:14
Martinlemaitrepepee nothing happened01:14
pepeeMartinlemaitre, pressed enter?01:14
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, Thanks for the info on the nexus to tv stuff, the nexus has perfect use basically compared to W8 and Ubuntu, lol which have their limitations.01:14
pepeenow type:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer01:14
pepeeexactly as shown, include the &&01:14
Martinlemaitreyeah but nothing happened01:15
morten771my daemon.log and syslog.1 have thousands of those lines now and are half a gig each :(01:15
fahadashMartinlemaitre: Are you typing that in terminal prompt ?01:15
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, And thats with having a nice hdmi cord and converter to usb01:15
Martinlemaitreyeah01:15
Martinlemaitreit gives me code, and the enter option01:15
Martinlemaitrebut i hit enter and nothing happens01:15
fahadashMartinlemaitre: Define "nothing happens"01:16
Martinlemaitregpg Total Number processed: 101:16
Martinlemaitregpg imported: 101:16
pepeethat's OK01:16
Martinlemaitrethats hte last two lines01:16
morten771I think adding a line "size 64M" into my /etc/logrotate.conf should prevent any logfile from becoming more than 64 MB, do I have to run a command to activate the change or can I simply restart the computer?01:17
pepeeMartinlemaitre, now type (or copy and paste):   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer01:17
MartinlemaitreE Could not get lock directory01:18
Martinlemaitreresource temp unavailale01:18
Martinlemaitreunable to lock administration directory01:18
Martinlemaitrethen it wrote "is another processur usen it"01:18
pepeeit could be updating by itself or something...01:19
pepeeMartinlemaitre, wait a minute, then run the same again01:20
Martinlemaitreis itcuz im downloading windows 701:20
pepeeno01:20
Martinlemaitreiz it cuz im downloading Remy Lacroix x jules jordan Slut Puppies 1201:22
pepeewell, try again:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer01:22
pepeeMartinlemaitre, ^01:22
Martinlemaitrestill E could not get lock01:23
kostkonMartinlemaitre, dont push your luck01:23
jordanmy irc client gives me a popup whenever my nick "jordan" is mentioned01:23
Martinlemaitreis it cause im downloading eclipse01:23
jordan"iz it cuz im downloading Remy Lacroix x jules jordan Slut Puppies 12" is without a doubt the strangest nocontext popup I've ever seen :-)01:23
kostkonjordan, :/01:23
pepeeMartinlemaitre, type  ps ax | grep apt01:24
comodo_dragonadfsd01:24
Martinlemaitrea bunch of line swiht red apts01:25
fahadashAnybody knows whats the timezone in jordan ?01:25
Martinlemaitremy computers going crazy now01:26
jordan:)01:26
Martinlemaitreall freezing01:26
comodo_dragonlol01:26
comodo_dragonjordan01:26
pepeeMartinlemaitre, copy it and post it to http://pastebin.com01:26
comodo_dragonare you from jordan ?01:26
comodo_dragonuse google to find timezone in jordan..01:26
* jordan turns off popups :-)01:26
mdkwlanutc +02:0001:26
Martinlemaitrehttp://pastebin.com/3gAXKSKz\01:27
Martinlemaitrehttp://pastebin.com/3gAXKSKz01:27
mdkwlanDo you have another update running in the background?01:27
Martinlemaitreya eclipse01:27
Martinlemaitrewell its done now01:27
mdkwlanThat would be why01:28
mdkwlanapt can only be used once at a time01:28
Martinlemaitrebut it was on the software center01:28
pepeeand it installed java...01:29
pepeeIIRC it should configure itself01:29
Martinlemaitrei did openJDK first01:29
pepeejust open eclipse01:29
Martinlemaitretha code u gave before works01:29
Martinlemaitreim agreeing to some oracle shit01:29
pepeenooo, it's already installed01:30
Martinlemaitreu fuck01:30
pepeeah kk01:30
Martinlemaitreim at 40%01:30
Martinlemaitreits goin gup 2%01:30
Martinlemaitreevery line01:30
pepeeit's ok, I guess you are installing jdk 601:30
mdkwlanWhat are you trying to do Martinlemaitre ?01:30
Martinlemaitrei want jdk 701:30
Martinlemaitrewhat01:30
Martinlemaitrei dont want jdk 601:30
mdkwlansec01:30
Martinlemaitrepepee is trolling me into deleting system3201:30
mdkwlanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKzUzo21vDk01:30
pepeedaf...01:30
Martinlemaitreits done01:30
Martinlemaitrei been trying to install this java for 30 mins now01:31
Martinlemaitreand been going in circles01:31
mdkwlanIt's really not that hard01:31
mdkwlanit's like 3 commands01:31
pepeewell, congrats, you just learned how to use the terminal and how to install programs from it01:31
Martinlemaitrei dint learn anyting01:31
pepeeand also, how to use the package manager01:31
Martinlemaitrepackage manager?01:31
mdkwlanapt = package manager01:32
pepeeyou need to learn how to get calm now01:32
fahadashlol01:32
Martinlemaitrecalm?01:32
xbhyais there a way to include the path to a shared object file when you run an executable?  The executable is in the same directory as the .so file, but running it says "No such file or directory"01:32
mdkwlanGoogle would have been faster01:32
Martinlemaitreu know in windows i can install java in 1 minutes01:32
mdkwlanThen go back to windows.01:32
pepeemdkwlan, he's just impatient01:32
mdkwlanSo i've seen.01:32
fahadashMartinlemaitre: 5 minutes is what it takes to launch eclipse in windows.01:33
morten771who wanted to know how to use the package manager?01:33
mdkwlanNo one. He didn't understand what it was.01:33
morten771xbhya: so that program absolutely wants the shared object file to be in /lib/ or something or?01:34
fahadashMartinlemaitre: Linux community encourages you to Google and Read... Microsoft encourages you to call PSS Support and pay $250 to get jdk installed on windows01:34
chasehi01:34
mdkwlanImplying Ubuntu is hard to install anything. My word you may as well go back to windows if you think that.01:34
Martinlemaitreoh look01:34
Martinlemaitrei run eclipse, ERROR!01:34
MartinlemaitreThanks ubuntu!01:34
pepeelol01:35
chasehey i just installed unbuntu studio and delete windows i am currently trying to install diablo  usuing wine but i get a error01:35
pepeeMartinlemaitre, just click "ok"01:35
Martinlemaitrei did, it closes01:35
mdkwlanClearly it's ubuntu and not your incompetence01:35
Martinlemaitreobviously01:35
fahadashlol01:35
Martinlemaitresinc ei just installed it from the software centre01:35
Martinlemaitrehad 0 room for human error01:35
Martinlemaitreand it still doesnt work01:35
FloodBot1Martinlemaitre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:35
pepeeMartinlemaitre, post the error message in pastebin01:35
fahadashI know a 12 yo who installs packages on ubuntu without a problem01:35
morten771chase I think you can check winedb to see if there is something special you could do when running diablo perhaps01:36
Martinlemaitresays to check the log file in some directory i have no idea how to access01:36
mdkwlanGo try gentoo and tell me how bad ubuntu is again.01:36
pepeechase, did you check in appdb.winehq.org for compatibility ?01:36
daftykinsMartinlemaitre: since you don't appear to be experienced with Java development, you may have neglected to install the oracle JDK in place of the OpenJDK before installing Eclipse.01:36
mdkwlanbecause running three commands that you can copy and paste into terminal is so god damn hard.01:36
morten771Martinlemaitre: what logfile do it want you to see?01:36
Martinlemaitrethe freaking directory they link me01:36
Martinlemaitrei cant even fcking access?01:36
Martinlemaitresigh01:37
daftykinsMartinlemaitre: tone down the language or you'll have to be shown the door.01:37
fahadashmdkwlan: lol01:37
fahadashMartinlemaitre: Why you can't access certain directory ? Don't you have root access ?01:37
mdkwlanForgot going from ctrl + c and OH NO! ctrl + shift + v so hard.01:37
Martinlemaitrethis is literally pissing me off01:37
Martinlemaitreit says home/martin/.eclipse01:38
Martinlemaitrei click on the folder01:38
Martinlemaitreclick home01:38
MartinlemaitreNO MARTIN FOLDER!01:38
FloodBot1Martinlemaitre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:38
fahadashMartinlemaitre: In terminal type 'cat /home/martin/.eclipse'01:38
mdkwlanThere are other IDEs that you can use01:39
daftykinsMartinlemaitre: what did i tell you about your language?01:40
Martinlemaitrethis is AWFUL01:40
daftykinsnow if you want some further help, develop some manners01:40
Martinlemaitrei cant even figure out how to install windows on this01:40
Martinlemaitretrying to mount an ISO01:40
Martinlemaitreis hell01:40
mdkwlanNO! IT'S UBUNTU'S FAULT DAMNIT!01:40
daftykins!ops01:40
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Martinlemaitrewhat the hell is a Mount Point?01:40
Crazyzurferhow do I change the hotkeys? like, fn + f6, turns the sound off01:40
jboiiwhen apps are stuck , how can i fix it so they dont blink ?01:41
daftykinstrolltastic Martinlemaitre ^01:41
chasei did check wine and the version of diablo  i am trying to install does work01:41
jboiiis there something i can use  to make it so i kno things is system ok01:41
pepeechase, do you get any error messages?01:41
kostkonMartinlemaitre, you are all over the place01:41
chasebut i keep getting error code BLZAPPBTS0000k01:41
Martinlemaitrethis OS is all over the place01:41
Martinlemaitretrying to install java has turned into a 90 min long wild goose chase01:42
Martinlemaitreending in failure01:42
pepeejboii, what apps, and what do you mean by "blink"?01:42
cjwelbornI installed java the other day, it took 5 minutes.01:42
chaseis says the windows secondary logon service to be inabled01:42
fahadashMartinlemaitre: How about you pay someone to install java for you ?01:42
wilee-nileechase, there is a #wine channel as well.01:42
chaseit requires*01:42
Martinlemaitrethis is so god dman stressful01:42
Martinlemaitreu dont understand01:42
morten771Martinlemaitre: a "mount point" is where a harddisk or usbstick or whatever will be found in the files... in windows they is normally called things like C: or D: instead01:42
chasealright thaanks01:42
pepeechase, google shows errors related to battle.net01:42
mdkwlanIt took about 2 mins to install for my on my ubuntu box. He's making a moutain out of a damn mole hill.01:42
MartinlemaitreYEah morten..im trying to find a drive to mount but i cant find one01:43
Martinlemaitrehow do i just run an iso if it asks me for a mount point01:43
pepeeMartinlemaitre, why don't you just fix eclipse?01:43
morten771Martinlemaitre: aha you want to look at the files inside an .iso file?01:43
Martinlemaitrefix eclipse how?01:43
Martinlemaitreno i want to run the damn iso01:43
cjwelbornMartin, you have a Windows 7 iso that you want to install? You need to burn it to a disk or usb.01:43
pepeeit could be as easy as running two commands..01:43
wilee-nileechase, #winehq actually01:43
fahadashI think he is CEO of Canonical just testing Ubuntu support community's patience to figure out how successful he is.01:44
Martinlemaitrewhy the hell would i need to burn it? cant i juts run it?01:44
daftykins*sigh*01:44
Martinlemaitrepepee01:44
mdkwlanPlease go back to windows.01:44
Martinlemaitrei cant get to the folder..01:44
cjwelbornRun a Windows Installer on Ubuntu? ... just burn it.01:44
MartinlemaitreAn error has occurred. See the log file /home/martin/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1381282597500.log.01:44
Martinlemaitrewat do i even do01:44
mdkwlanRead the damn log file to see what the problem is01:44
MartinlemaitreIVE TOLD U 10 TIMES01:44
mdkwlanis that really that hard to understand?01:44
pepeeMartinlemaitre, sudo dpkg-reconfigure eclipse01:44
MartinlemaitreI DONT KNOW HOW TO GET TO IT01:44
fahadashMartinlemaitre: cat /path/to/filename.log01:44
FloodBot1Martinlemaitre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:44
MartinlemaitreIM NOT A DAMN WIZARD01:44
pepeelol01:45
mdkwlanLMAO01:45
Ari-YangMartinlemaitre: when I installed java...it was simple01:45
Ari-Yangoh01:45
xbhyamorten771: least documented program ever.  Came with a .so file and the executable, but your question caused me to randomly stumble on a google solution: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/67781/use-shared-libraries-in-usr-local-lib  thanks01:45
daftykinsnice work floodbot01:45
mdkwlanTy FloodBot2 <301:45
Ari-Yangand here I was going to link him to a simple guide :|01:45
daftykinsnow you guys should NOT have been encouraging a blatant troll01:45
mdkwlanNo it's more fun to egg him on01:45
morten771xbhya: ok, glad to be of any help :-)01:45
daftykinsthis channel is for legit support, NOT FUN!01:45
mdkwlanLolol01:45
daftykins:P01:46
mdkwlanRTFM!01:46
fahadashJFGI01:46
wyldeFUN is OT! >:(01:46
daftykinswylde: i wouldn't go that far :(01:46
wylde;)01:46
daftykinsbut yes, #ubuntu-offtopic for all your trolling needs01:46
fahadashWhat's OT ?01:46
daftykinsofftopic.01:46
Jeruvydaftykins lol :)01:46
morten771daftykins:  but support is fun, isn't it? :)01:47
fahadashdaftykins: Using Ubuntu is fun, what are you talking about01:47
mdkwlanlol01:47
fahadashIf Ubuntu was no fun, then you wouldn't see it gaining all that popularity would you ?01:47
mdkwlanI'm still waiting for gentoo to compile. So yea ubuntu is fun01:47
morten771should I run a command after changing logging setting before my changes work?01:48
daftykinsmeh, i'm off to bed, you guys can troll all you like01:48
fahadashI have recently become a preacher of ubuntu, converted many Windows zombies into Ubuntu human users01:48
mdkwlanGn daftykins01:48
morten771nightynight daftykins01:48
fahadashSleep better01:48
mdkwlanI'm more so a find your own flavour linux preecher01:48
fahadashThat is not gonna fly so well01:49
IdleOneCan you folks take the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this channel clear for support.01:49
mdkwlanWhys that?01:49
fahadashThere are users like Martinlemairte who don't know how to "Launch" an app; try that "Find your flavor" with them01:49
mdkwlanTrue but ill just wait till a person saids they have a problem01:50
mdkwlaninb4kicked so yea.01:50
fahadashOk I have a support question now01:50
mdkwlanask ill brb01:51
Phlunk3can anyone point me in the right direction for having a command which runs when a usb device is inserted?01:51
fahadashI have ubuntu installer boot-USB; I use it as a portable OS; I stick it in, boot and choose "Try Ubuntu"... I do that to use other people computers... Do you guys see any problem with it ?01:51
fahadashPhlunk3: You're probably looking for some autorun usb or something01:52
Phlunk3you can install linux onto a usb and then you will be able to store your app data and config on there also faha, probably a nicer solution01:52
fahadashPhlunk3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148597801:52
mdkwlanYea unetbootin has the function for mainting a session for ubuntu01:52
mdkwlanalso you have other spins like DSL or puppylinux01:53
wylde!info udev | Phlunk301:53
ubottuPhlunk3: udev (source: udev): rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is required. Version 175-0ubuntu26 (raring), package size 312 kB, installed size 956 kB (Only available for linux-any)01:53
Dr_WillisPuppylinux is a VERY weird linux in many ways. ;)01:53
mdkwlanHey Dr_Willis01:53
fahadashI used unetbootin to create this USB, but instead of running in installer I choose "Try Ubuntu"01:53
Dr_Willisi have a hard time reccomending it - because its so odd in ways - that teach bad habbits when using Ubuntu, or a more normal linux.01:53
Dr_WillisHowdies mdkwlan01:54
mdkwlanMacpup DSL there's tons of them01:54
Dr_Willistinycore linux is also a very tiny (and weird) linux.01:54
mdkwlanYea, what exactly do you find weird with them?01:55
Dr_Willisgo look at how their package manager system works01:55
mdkwlanlike ppm?01:55
Dr_Willistinycore is set to have 'packages'installed to a direcxtory  then at boot all the package arvhives get mounted via the loop back feature to get merged into the actual os.01:56
mdkwlanWow that is weird01:56
IdleOneSeriously? What does any of this have to do with Ubuntu. Take the chit chat elsewhere now please.01:56
jboiihow can i make it so twitter notifications pop up ?01:56
Dr_Willisso you end up with 40+ loop devices - each oneis mounted to setup a single app/package01:56
mdkwlanBecause it started with using ubuntu on a usb stick and mataining a session on a usb stick01:57
IdleOnemdkwlan: I am going to say this one last time. Stick to Ubuntu support or I will remove you from the channel. Dr_Willis you know better also.01:58
mdkwlanK01:58
DWSR2Where can I find 12.04.1 install media?01:58
mdkwlan12.04.3 is the current one. Is there a reason why you need 12.04.1?01:58
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IdleOneDWSR2: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/02:00
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the_keen1hHi, is there a good reference on the order that bash reads startup files? particularly the order?02:09
pepeewhat version of ubuntu?02:09
pepeeI think it's being changed in ubuntu 13.10...02:09
pepeehe got hit by a bug in eclipse...02:12
pepeethis one:  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10165693/eclipse-cannot-load-swt-libraries02:13
TripSecis TrueCrypt compatible with ubuntu?02:14
skorpiohi, can i use a gui for .par2 files like quickpar or something?02:16
Valdusall:  hi, i have a thinkpad and i was wondering if anyone here knew how to use the fingerprint scanner + a password for two layers of security02:17
Dr_Willisskorpio:  winrar works in wine02:17
Valdusall: this would be for logging in and what not02:17
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skorpioDr_Willis: i think there is a tool for it but i cant recall its name02:19
pepeeValdus, try asking in ##linux and ##security too (tell them you are using ubuntu)02:19
Valduspepee: good idea, thnx02:19
pepeeskorpio, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/71673-par-par2-program.html says there is part2 in linux02:20
pepeeerr... skorpio google shows pypar2 :P02:21
toothewhere is slapd.conf on Ubuntu?02:21
Tylertwotoothe, 'locate slapd.conf'02:23
skorpiopepee: that might be it thanks to your superior google skills ;)02:23
toothei found ta its in /usr/share/slapd, this is throwing me off02:23
pepeetoothe, or dpkg -S slapd.conf02:23
toothebecause I don'tsee the purpose of /etc/ldap then02:24
pepeeskorpio, :P02:24
fishcookerhow to surpress the screen output while booting?02:26
fishcookerhow to change those black thing with a logo splashing ?02:27
LiENUSRory, if you're still on finally triggered it its def an out of memory error, it just says "Killed" but dmesg shows out of memory so i do need swap space02:30
fishcookeri have coztumized ubuntu box how to surpress the screen output while booting?02:31
fishcookerhow to change those black thing with a logo splashing ?02:31
LiENUSi love how 2gb isnt enough ram to run a web browser anymore02:32
pepeefishcooker, install plymouth ?02:33
chucky___hi, is it possible to run windows images on virtualbox installed on ubuntu?02:38
VialasHello, anyone here that could help me with "Make" and "Cloud 9 IDE"02:38
ariel_17chucky___: yes, it is02:38
Vialaschucky___ yup it sure is02:38
chucky___ariel_17, even in headless environment??02:38
Vialaschucky___ so you want to RDP into it?02:38
ariel_17chucky___: what do you mean with "headless"02:39
chucky___i.e., commandline only? server edition02:39
Ben64chucky___: check out the docs for virtualbox02:39
tclohi02:39
tclodoes anyone run cpanel on ubuntu?02:39
chucky___or is there a better way of running windows from within linux?02:39
ariel_17chucky___: I didn't tried that way. Sorry :/02:39
Ben64chucky___: thats probably the only way02:40
ariel_17chucky___: I always did that. Virtualbox inside the box, since I have ubuntu as primary os02:40
ariel_17chucky___: do you want to emulate the vmware os?02:41
pepeeVialas, you got an error or something?02:42
Vialaswell now im getting a error about not supporting ARM02:42
Vialasbut thats because i treid a didffeent method02:43
Vialashttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181307602:43
Vialasi was using that tutorial02:43
Vialas:$02:43
FloodBot1Vialas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:43
Vialasand even with a tutorial im a noob :S02:43
Vialasi didnt flood anyone02:43
bazhangVialas, use commas, NOT enter02:43
* Vialas scratches head02:43
Vialasohh i see, thanks bazhang , will do from nowo n02:43
pepeeVialas, hmm, no idea, but I guess someone will help you if they know02:45
pepeealso, try looking for other related channels02:45
toothegah, having trouble with slapd on Ubuntu.02:46
toothethe documentation for slapd fails at a certain point02:46
tootheI think its due to ubuntu-specific changes02:46
Vialaspepee i treid the #cloud9ide but doenst seem much help02:46
Vialaspepee the error is when i sue "make" command all parts up to that work02:47
Vialaspepee but then i get this error : clound 9 Build failed:  -> task failed (err #2):         {task: libv8.a SConstruct -> libv8.a}02:47
pepeeVialas, did you google that error?02:48
tcatsunentI installed open box and I was wondering how to install a dock and is there a quick way to cycle through desktops?02:48
Vialasi need to get better at using commas instead of the enter button. Yes i did try and google the error and that lead me to try another thing which then gave me the proplem with the ARM error about the processsor02:48
pepeetcatsunent, windows key + f1, f2 ...02:49
bazhangVialas, try #ubuntu-arm02:49
Vialasok bazhang02:49
tcatsunentThanks any ideas for a dock? I tried awn but it didn't work02:50
pepeetcatsunent, no idea, but I guess people using l/xubuntu may help you?02:51
bazhang!info docky02:51
ubottudocky (source: docky): Elegant, powerful, clean dock. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.4-1 (raring), package size 830 kB, installed size 3329 kB02:51
bazhangtcatsunent, ^02:51
tcatsunentthank you02:51
Dr_Willis!dock02:52
ubottuUbuntu includes several dock-like navigation bars. Some options are: avant-window-navigator, cairo-dock, docky (formerly part of gnome-do), stalonetray, simdock, kdocker, kooldock.02:52
Dr_Willisawn works well for most people. its got the most features i belive02:53
zykotick9bazhang: to bad docky is written in mono, and thus doesn't have much future...03:01
bazhangzykotick9, well he asked for a dock, not the whole mono thing, and thats what came to mind; feel free to suggest others if you wish03:02
zykotick9bazhang: well, it works for now anyways ;)  i've never been a big dock fan myself, but have used awn/docky/cairo-dock in the past... you suggestion(s) where good... i was just making a comment to you :)03:04
tcatsunentsays it wont work properly without compositing03:07
Dr_Williswhat window manager are you using tcatsunent ?03:08
morten771can I block or mask read of one file on a NTFS partition? so when a program wants to read that file it gets 0 bytes of another file from somewhere, just so it don't try to read that file?03:09
tcatsunentopenbox03:09
Dr_Willismorten771:  i imagine such features with ntfs will be very limited.03:09
Dr_Willistcatsunent:  openbox might have some compisiting option you can enable.03:10
Dr_WillisDocks that require compositing, such as Avant-window-navigator, Cairo dock, or Kooldock, can be used in Openbox with xcompmgr03:10
tcatsunentokay thank you03:11
Dr_Willishttp://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/03:11
morten771oh03:11
morten771could I for example mount a single file onto  /media/C/dir1/dir2/file.exe  ? (while /media/C is where my ntfs partition C: is)03:12
Vialasno luck :(03:12
zykotick9tcatsunent: IF you have 3D card working, you might want to check out http://www.fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Compositing03:12
Dr_Willismorten771:  i would be suprised if it was possible. you MIGHT be able to use some unionfs or other fuse 'mergeing 2 filesystems onto one' tools like unionfs, or overlayfs. or some other fuse tools.03:13
Dr_Willismorten771:  im not sure how well the ntfs-3g driver supports soft links either.  that may be anoher way to redirect that file to a differnt file03:14
Hodappmount a single file? why?03:14
morten771I'm not sure how mounting works really, but I think one normall can make say a usb stick appear as to be the files at /home/user/foo/bar so perhaps a single file from it could be "mounted" to appear as /home/user/foo/bar/pic.jpg say?03:14
IamTryinghttp://eid.belgium.be/en/using_your_eid/what_do_you_need/kaartlezer/  - I have to login via my ID card, how do i install it?03:14
IamTryinghttp://eid.belgium.be/en/using_your_eid/what_do_you_need/kaartlezer/ - i have installed it but my card reader is not showing my ID Card details03:14
loganleeIamTrying: ?03:14
morten771aha ok03:14
IamTryingloganlee, eid-viewer is not working any idea how to install it?03:15
LiENUSso anyone with any helpful tips for swap on sd?03:15
IamTryingloganlee, software is installed but when my id card is inserted it does no preview03:15
morten771yeah the problem I really have (that I just tries to avoid) is that there is a file on my ntfs partition that my version of ntfs-3g can't read it seems. (and filling my logs with errors instead)03:15
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chucky___when i do a apt-get search virtualbox, it gives me a list of results. is there a way to find out the version of that particular release?03:16
comodo_dragon!virtualbox03:16
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox03:16
zykotick9LiENUS: do you mean SSD?  it's fast, but bad for the drive.  personally, i have swap on my SSD (but i don't expect my SSD to last forever, maybe 4+ years is all...)03:17
LiENUSsd card03:17
LiENUSso i dont kill my ssd03:17
zykotick9LiENUS: that's gonna be SLOW...03:17
IamTryingHow do i use ID Card reader?? Windows 7 / Windows XP it works but Ubuntu not possible?03:17
Tylertwochucky___, apt-cache policy virtualbox03:17
LiENUSzykotick9, shouldnt really be any slower than swap on hard drive03:18
zykotick9LiENUS: actually it will to MUCH slower...03:18
LiENUSzykotick9, random access hard drive speed is ~10-20MB/s03:18
LiENUSso going to something thats 30-50MB/s random access speed is a step up03:19
zykotick9LiENUS: do what you want.  i'm done with this conversation...03:19
LiENUSzykotick9, well im curious why would using a faster media be slower?03:19
morten771if rhash when trying to read that file, fills the syslog with thousands of lines of same error (for same file) is it becuase rhash don't give up, and just tries again and again forever?03:20
zykotick9LiENUS: lol, SD is across USB (9 times out of 10), and if you think USB = HD speed...03:20
wilee-nileeIamTrying, Have you found an app like this one? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/qesteidutil/03:20
LiENUSzykotick9, for sequential reads sure, spinning disk on sata bus would destroy it hands down03:20
LiENUSbut thats not what we're talking here03:20
LiENUSwe're talking swap which is random reads03:21
zykotick9LiENUS: have you ever tried to run an OS over USB?  it crawls...03:21
LiENUSactually the bench marks im finding for random reads are more on the order of 1-2MB/s compared to the 50MB/s i'm pulling off my SD card03:21
wilee-nileeIamTrying, http://askubuntu.com/questions/284440/why-id-card-reader-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10-using-omnikey312103:21
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zykotick9LiENUS: good luck, don't use my nick further.03:21
Dr_Willisi run my raspberrypi over SD card. and you can set it up to use USB. the usb is much faster.03:21
IamTryingwilee-nilee, yes this is the exact card i have now http://askubuntu.com/questions/284440/why-id-card-reader-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10-using-omnikey312103:22
LiENUSzykotick9, well maybe in the future yo ushouldnt be just making things up and people wont call you out on it toodles03:22
IamTryingwilee-nilee, but its not opening any data03:22
Dr_Willisran ubuntu off of SD card on this netbook also.. again USB flash was a lot faster03:22
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FloodBot1!netsplit03:22
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit03:22
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IamTryingwilee-nilee, ID-card Utility is not installing failed03:22
wilee-nileeIamTrying, I have no idea, just trying to get you to post more than  "help".03:23
sliewhen ubuntuforums got hacked and me having to create a new account with them did i loose all my data from the passed i'm not totally sure i used the same nickname... WFT03:23
wilee-nileeIn other words details03:23
Dr_Willisslie:  i think theres a #ubuntu-forums channel03:23
sliethatnks03:23
xmetal                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  hmm03:23
xmetal                  hmm03:23
xmetalack03:24
xmetalso so sorry folks03:24
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xmetali must have had my arm on the keyboard, when watching dvd03:24
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miusangHello, everyone! http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM1NDk I am not sure whether it's appropriate to try that because I am so nervous about updating the kernel to 3.10. Now I am using Ubuntu 12.04.3. kernel 3.8.  anyone give suggestions?03:24
Dr_Willismiusang:  paraphrase what the url is about... not everyone can read every url posted to see the actual question03:25
IamTryingwilee-nilee, i need to login via my id card to a VPN SSL server and also pay tax on web. But in Ubuntu its impossible to read a id card03:25
miusangok,03:25
LiENUSso anyone got any tips for putting swap on a sd card with ubuntu?03:25
Dr_WillisLiENUS:  ive heard its a bad idea. bad to have it on a usb flash drive also.03:26
wilee-nileeIamTrying, I am not your help, I have not used this app, the key here is details to the channel.03:26
Dr_Willisive done both however. ;)03:26
LiENUSDr_Willis, well it wears out the flash faster true03:26
morten771Shouldn't there only be one error line (ntfs_attr_pread error reading ... Value too large for defined data type) instead of many (until my disk is full) when rhash is trying to read a file that my ntfs-3g can't read?03:26
LiENUSbut in typical random read/writes sd cards absolutely destroy spinning disks03:26
LiENUSso it should in theory be  10-20x faster than putting it on a regular spinning hd03:27
Dr_Willisi imagine swap access is not totally random03:27
Dr_Willisrun some benchmarks and see perhaps?03:27
miusangthe url elaborate that How To Use Open-Source Radeon UVD On Ubuntu, but I don't know whether I can use it in my laptop and get a good performance.03:27
LiENUSnot totally no, you'll see things written out in blocks the size of the program03:27
LiENUSso firefox will take up ~1gb sequential03:28
miusangHello, everyone! http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM1NDk I am not sure whether it's appropriate to try that because I am so nervous about updating the kernel to 3.10. Now I am using Ubuntu 12.04.3. kernel 3.8.  anyone give suggestions?03:28
LiENUSbut firefox isnt likely to get swapped out03:28
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LiENUSyou're more likely to see little things like a bunch of small services swapped out to find the space you need in ram for firefox03:28
LiENUSnow if you're hibernating to a sd card it will suck performance wise compared to a hd03:29
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James_WBhello ?03:30
reisiohi03:30
miusanghttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM1NDk I am not sure whether it's appropriate to try that because I am so nervous about updating the kernel to 3.10. Now I am using Ubuntu 12.04.3. kernel 3.8.  anyone give suggestions?the url elaborate that How To Use Open-Source Radeon UVD On Ubuntu, but I don't know whether I can use it in my laptop and get a good performance.03:30
James_WBgot a problem with vlc on 13.0403:30
wilee-nileeLiENUS, Please use nicks here, you can tab complete them.03:30
reisioJames_WB: bummer03:30
James_WBit is suddenly not displaying any video at all03:30
James_WBworked well before03:30
James_WBhoping someone could help03:30
reisiomiusang: why're you nervous about updating to linux 3.10?03:31
IamTryingwilee-nilee, i have updated the drivers https://www.hidglobal.com/drivers/14919 but still eid-viewer is not showing the card03:31
miusangI want to use the hardware acceleration, in fact.03:31
wilee-nileeIamTrying, Why are you telling me this?03:31
james-ubchow do fix this error? W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 14E4942973C62A1B03:32
pepeemiusang, you need kernel 3.10+, preferably 3.1103:32
LiENUSwilee-nilee, please dont use my nick here, it's considered rude to ding someone if you werent already having a relevant conversation with them03:32
james-ubcapt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 14E4942973C62A1B03:32
james-ubc didn't work03:32
pepeemiusang, for UVD, you need an external package:  libg3dvl-mesa  from oibaf's PPA03:33
xmetaluh03:33
Dr_Willisjames-ubc:  perhaps they havent uploaded their key to the servers yet03:33
wilee-nileeLiENUS, I am a regualr user here, and that is not correct use nicks.03:33
IamTryingwilee-nilee, is there no body used Eid-viewer???03:33
pepeemiusang, #radeon may help03:33
LiENUSwilee-nilee, stop dinging me it is bad IRC ettiquette03:33
wilee-nilee!tab | LiENUS03:33
ubottuLiENUS: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.03:33
reisiomiusang: 13.10 will have 3.1103:33
wilee-nilee!attitude | LiENUS03:33
ubottuLiENUS: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines03:33
Sir_LetoHow do I fix my program defaults for scripts?03:33
Dr_WillisSir_Leto:  clarify what you mean03:34
rjhuntermiusang: If you're nervous, make sure that whatever upgrade method you're using installs your new kernel *as well* as your old one -- if things don't work out, choose your old kernel from the boot menu and you'll be back to where you were03:34
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KnownSyntaxLiENUS It's not considered rude, if anything no one knows who you are talking to when you reply minutes-hours later. All we see is you talk about random things, unless you highlight that person.03:34
LiENUSwilee-nilee, what you are doing ammounts to spam, they ban people from #freenode for dinging people you arent in a conversation with03:35
LiENUSKnownSyntax, i'm saying wilee-nilee is being rude by dinging me randomly03:35
reisiothey really don't :p but that's immaterial03:35
reisioany of you have something related to Ubuntu to talk about?03:35
miusangAlso, I am afraid that whether the propritery drivers have something wrong with the new kenerl.03:35
james-ubcDr_Willis, huh... that's weird... I didn't add any repos this week03:35
LiENUSreisio, actually sit in there, about twice a day spammers come in dinging everyone and they ban them03:35
reisiomiusang: pretty unlikely03:35
reisioLiENUS: nope03:36
LiENUSreisio, yep03:36
pepeemiusang, you have to remove them completely, remove xorg and reinstall it03:36
KnownSyntaxreisio: Let's talk about how openjdk throws a package not found error when you try to apt-get install it on ubuntu server >.>03:36
reisioLiENUS: not what you're talking about, nope03:36
reisioKnownSyntax: can we talk about what you want openjdk for first? :/03:36
Sir_LetoDr_Willis: I told Ubuntu to open .pde files in processing(an IDE) and now it opens all scripts in processing03:36
James_WBanyone having trouble with vlc, mine stopped displaying video today03:36
LiENUSreisio, i simply pointed out that what he was doing is akin to spamming hes dinging me for no reason03:36
reisioJames_WB: what'd you do today?03:36
pepeemiusang, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx03:36
KnownSyntaxreisio: qwebirc.03:37
reisioLiENUS: yeah, but it isn't, and it wouldn't matter if it were, that isn't your job03:37
LiENUSit's considered rude to randomly ding people03:37
reisioKnownSyntax: horrors, what's the exact error?03:37
reisioLiENUS: you said03:37
LiENUSi informed him that what he was doing is rude03:37
James_WBinstalled some updates in software updater, thats about it, nothing related to vlc03:37
Dr_WillisSir_Leto:  id have to say check askubuntu.com for what tools to tweak file assoications that way.03:37
LiENUSreisio, i said <LiENUS> wilee-nilee, please dont use my nick here, it's considered rude to ding someone if you werent already having a relevant conversation with them03:37
miusangI am using laptop. Doesn't the laptop get much heat than original?03:37
LiENUShe continued to ding me03:37
reisioLiENUS: it's true you've said some things, is he dining you now?03:37
KnownSyntaxreisio: apt-get can't find the package at all, I've told Ubuntu forums awhile back ago but still no fix. I'm lazy so meh, just gave up on having that part of qwebirc run correctly.03:37
pepeemiusang, there is dynamic power management in kernel 3.1103:38
LiENUSthen bragge dabout how he was a regular user here and could get away with being rude03:38
reisioKnownSyntax: horrors, what's the exact error?03:38
pepeemiusang, http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?82751-How-to-get-dpm-accel-sb-back-end-working-on-Ubu-13-04-%28ppa-preferably-%2903:38
LiENUSthen proceeded to info bot spam me with a link to the rules saying not to info bot spam me lol03:39
mynameisthomHello, m currently using ubuntu to connect to a device with this command : stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 9600 cs8 -cstopb && cat -v < /dev/ttyUSB0. The result is, an output with ^C at the end of the data. The question is if I type : stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 9600 eof ^C cs8 -cstopb && cat -v < /dev/ttyUSB0, why doesn't it close?03:39
xmetalback03:39
LiENUSwilee-nilee, since you're a 'regular user' you should know ". Please do not abuse our bots. Trying to add silly items (including spam), or calling lots of triggers quickly is considered to be abuse"03:39
miusangOne more question, if I install the proprietary driver from AMD, what happened to the kerne 3.11.03:39
lucenutI've been reading about installing ubuntu-touch on a nexus 10. Kinda confusing.03:39
lucenutDo you think the install will be any easier with the release on the 17th?03:39
LiENUSrom the link you sent me from the infobot03:39
xmetalok i think we may have a troll from the looks of it03:40
chasecan someone help me install java on ubuntu studio03:40
the_keen1h5~03:40
lucenutAnyone have experience with ubuntu-touch?03:40
zykotick9!touch | lucenut03:40
ubottulucenut: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch03:40
pepeemiusang, nothing. AFAIK, fglrx modifies the X server and installs a kernel module. after removing that module and the packages, you'll have no problems03:41
chasedo i need to install linux rpm, linux, linux 64, or linusx 64 rpm03:41
lucenutI just have a few questions.03:41
LiENUSchase, you wouldnt need an rpm on ubuntu at all03:41
lucenutLike will the release on the 17th dual boot?03:41
reisiochase: this a desktop?03:41
Dr_Willislucenut:  all the releases have been able to dual boot03:41
chaselap top03:41
zykotick9chase: rpm is redhat/fedora... see "/msg ubottu rpm" for additional details...03:42
Dr_Willisbut if you mean  can touch dual boot with what?  theres the Touch specific channels03:42
reisiochase: so desktop, use software center03:42
LiENUSchase, does ubuntu studio not have the  ubuntu software center03:42
Dr_Willis!touch | lucenut03:42
ubottulucenut: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch03:42
reisiochase: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java03:42
chaseidk im new to ubuntu03:42
pepeemynameisthom, you have to pass ^C?03:42
pepee*you want?03:43
gp5stis there anyway to split a file in place? :-\ I'm trying to put it on s3 bc i don't have much space left, but it's over 5gb03:43
miusangOk, I will try it right now. Great thanks. I will give some feedbacks.:)03:43
chasewitch java do i need to play runescape03:43
mynameisthompepee, yep. I've tried hit Ctrl-V Ctrl-C, but nothing. The command is still listening the port.03:44
reisiogp5st: how do you have access to s3?03:44
chaselike for graphics03:44
pepeemiusang, it's experimental, I don't think feedback will be welcome...03:44
pepeemiusang, not  in this channel, at least03:44
reisiogp5st: use 'split' or 'tar' and s3fs03:44
pepeemiusang, go to #radeon03:44
LiENUS!java | chase03:44
ubottuchase: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.03:44
miusangok, no problem.03:44
reisiogp5st: or, sorry, just use s3fs :)03:44
reisiogp5st: and cp/rsync03:44
chaseok thanks03:44
LiENUSyou want the jre and browser plugin03:44
pepeemynameisthom, the manpage says eof specifies the char to terminate the session...03:45
reisiochase: runescape?03:45
reisioah03:46
pepeemynameisthom, try passing '\x03' as argument?03:46
chaseafter i download java what do i need to open it with03:46
pepeeor, better yet, give it some other char...03:46
Dr_Willischase:  what did you download exactly?03:46
chasearchive mnager?03:46
LiENUSreisio, its a mmorpg03:46
LiENUSdone through the web browser03:46
xmetalgood question03:46
chasejre-7u40-linux-i586.tar.gz03:47
reisiochase: you don't download it through your browser03:47
LiENUSiirc theres a launcher so he could use it and in theory get away without the plugin and just use the launcher but i've no idea if it works on linux03:47
reisiochase: use your package manager03:47
gp5streisio: but i thought there was a 5gb limit on s3 (i'm using s3cmd and it's getting a broken pipe error)03:47
xmetali'd look in the package manager first before messing with tarballs03:47
xmetalat least on a mint/ubuntu OS03:47
LiENUSchase, try the openjdk before you try oracle03:47
chaseit dont lienus03:47
chaseand it wouldnt work on wine either03:47
pepeeseriously, most if not all newbs don't even know that there is a package manager03:48
reisiogp5st: well that's a separate problem altogether03:48
LiENUSchase, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Installation_of_Java_Runtime_Environment03:48
pepeewhy isn't it in the /topic ?03:48
reisiogp5st: how do you expect to move 5gb off one FS and onto another that won't take it03:48
pepeeit should be the first thing newbs should read...03:48
chasethanks for the help guys03:48
chaseim a coder im just trying to get into ubuntu03:49
chasereally03:49
gp5streisio: i have no idea03:49
xmetal look for synaptic03:49
reisiopepee: why not just make people learn how to be self sufficient? Great idea :p03:49
xmetalor did i typo that?03:49
xmetallol03:49
reisiogp5st: okay, so maybe this isn't your solution03:49
gp5streisio: i wanted to split it into smaller files03:49
gp5sthmm, this is a rar with a rar in it? (I didn't make it) could i mount it?03:49
pepeereisio, because to start being self sufficient, it's easier to just RTFM...03:49
reisiogp5st: start with this: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/clean-unnecessary-temporarily-files-in.html03:49
reisiogp5st: hrmm?03:50
gp5streisio: oh i've been doing that:-p03:50
reisiopepee: you know that, and I know that, two down03:50
reisiogp5st: you know you can get 3TB for about $120 in the USA right now03:50
reisiothat's less than $50 per 1TB03:50
chasewhat application do you open oracle with03:50
chase?03:50
pepeeyeah, well, the first question should always be "are you new to ubuntu/linux?"03:50
chaseto install03:50
hoverboardyo pepee03:51
pepeehey hoverboard03:51
reisiogp5st: Ubuntu One offers 5gb of free online space03:51
hoverboardyou're pretty active in here03:51
reisiogp5st: google drive offers 1503:51
reisiohundreds of others03:51
pepeehoverboard, I used to be, but it's kinda hard to teach people...03:51
methodizewhat could be the cause of booting to black screen 3 times and on the 4th it boots correctly?03:51
hoverboardyou still in that other channel?03:51
reisiopepee: I'm not sure you should be answering questions if the answer to that one isn't obvious :)03:51
Sir_Letoturns out I need to edit ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list03:51
pepeehoverboard, yep03:51
reisiomethodize: race conditions, don't you love C++?03:52
hoverboardah cool03:52
pepeereisio, some people knows how to do things, some learn quickly by themselves, etc.03:52
reisiouhuh03:52
chasewhat program do i need to choose to install jdk oracle03:52
gp5streisio: it's a 6gb file:-p03:52
pepeesome are told "look, ubuntu is great, I'll install it for you" and then... nothing, they don't know how to use it03:52
pepeechase, use the software center03:52
hoverboardyeah that's true03:53
reisiogp5st: what is it?03:53
xmetalthe room bot have a "package manager or software center commond"03:53
reisiochase: what makes you think you need oracle's?03:53
xmetaloops @ my spelling03:53
xmetalcommand03:53
gp5streisio: some (non porn) videos03:53
reisiogp5st: in what format?03:53
reisiogp5st: how much space do you have?03:53
reisiogp5st: get yourself some porn03:53
gp5st~ 800mb?03:53
mynameisthompepee, it says stty: invalid integer argument `x03'03:54
xmetali have a joke here but i am bound to get kicked from the room for saying it03:54
xmetal:P03:54
Sir_Letocan someone get something from their application defaults config for me?03:54
pepeemynameisthom, include the quotes, or try      eof $(echo -ne '\x03')03:54
mynameisthompepee, gimme a second. I'll try the last one, since quote doesn't work03:55
Sir_LetoI want to know what it says in ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list for the mime type application/x-shellscript03:56
Sir_Letocan anyone tell me?03:56
reisioSir_Leto: I'm guessing dash or bash03:56
Sir_LetoI need it to fix my messed up file associations03:56
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reisioapt-file can probably tell you what package provides that03:56
obiwanjabr0nihow do you set up the gui to have these widgets? http://i.imgur.com/eyow1D2.jpg03:57
reisioheheh03:57
mynameisthompepee, still not work. At least it display the correct result, even it still not auto-close.03:57
reisioobiwanjabr0ni: you must be so bored03:57
gp5starchivemount cmd ftw!03:57
obiwanjabr0nireisio ?03:57
Sir_Letonice03:57
Sir_Letolol03:57
reisioobiwanjabr0ni: I was just in #css when you did that :p03:57
Sir_Letoobiwanjabr0ni: check you clipboard03:57
pepeemynameisthom, no idea then, try asking in ##linux or something else03:57
obiwanjabr0niomg wtf03:57
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reisioSir_Leto: no he's doing it on purpose :p03:57
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obiwanjabr0niOMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING03:58
obiwanjabr0niA PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER03:58
obiwanjabr0niHIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY03:58
obiwanjabr0niFAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH03:58
obiwanjabr0niCUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE03:58
reisioif it weren't such blatant gay porn, maybe that would be a possibility03:58
reisioheh03:58
Sir_LetoI don't mind it, but he can probably get in trouble for it03:58
Sir_Letohe's spamming now03:58
reisiohe was always spamming03:59
reisiothat is what spam is03:59
Fritzkampfereh just think about in a week how this wont matter 1 penny03:59
Dr_Willisand people wonder why i keep  insisting they use a pastebin text site. not jpg images03:59
mynameisthompepee, thank you :)03:59
reisiothere's no time when you join a channel for the purpose of sending an irrelevant message that it isn't spam03:59
pepeemynameisthom, yw03:59
justicefriesi'm trying to change from the default stereo sound to 7.1 surround sound. no matter what I do, when I initially play, it's in stereo until I change the mode in system settings - sound.03:59
justicefrieshas anybody dealt with this? i'm using pusleaudio.03:59
justicefriesi've had this problem in ubuntu and mint.03:59
pepeejustanotheruser, try using pavucontrol03:59
Sir_LetoI've given up with linux and audio04:00
Sir_LetoIt still has so many problems04:00
justicefriesis there some mystery mode in pavucontrol?04:00
pepeepulseaudio always gives problems...04:00
justicefrieschromium, right now shows built-in Audio Analog Surround 7.104:00
justicefriesbut only shows front left and front right control.s04:00
justicefriesyeah.04:00
pepeejustanotheruser, ah, sorry, misread... no idea about that...04:01
pepeejustanotheruser, are you sure the driver supports 7.1?04:01
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justicefriesyeah, i can change to the mode04:01
justicefriesand while that process is open04:01
justicefriesit's definitely in 7.104:01
methodizereisio,  theres nothing i can do about it?04:02
reisiomethodize: about what?04:03
rrmanyone could recommend me a laptop with ubuntu pre installed04:03
reisiorrm: can't pick one yourself?04:04
Sir_LetoI think dell may still sell laptops like that04:04
Dr_Willissystem76 has several also04:04
rrmreisio: well, i want to make sure it works ok with 12.04 since this x130e has issues with wireless and video card04:05
Sir_Letorrm: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/dell/dellxps04:05
reisiorrm: any reputable business will make sure the hardware works with what they put on it04:05
Sir_Leto$1549?04:06
Sir_Letoouch04:06
rrmreisio: reputable?04:06
reisiorrm: having a good reputation04:06
rrmreisio: i know, lol... lenovo is one, does not work out of the box, lol... i just wanted something that i do not have to worry about tinkering, i just want to use it04:07
Dr_Willisthre is a list of ubuntu certified hardware on the ubuntu site ive seen.04:07
reisioright, but they also don't sell computers with ubuntu preinstalled04:07
reisioso that isn't relevant04:07
Sir_Letorrm: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Lenovo/04:07
methodizereisio, about race conditions.04:08
reisionewegg has a $250 netbook/laptop right now with ubuntu04:08
reisiomethodize: oh04:08
reisiomethodize: that could be tedious to debug, you'd have to look at logs and things04:08
rrmSir_Leto: wow, that xps is expensive04:08
reisiodell raises prices on their linux offerings04:09
methodizereisio, ah, any idea on where i could start chipping away at that? or what to look into04:09
Sir_LetoIt's a core 3rd gen core i7 laptop with a 1080p display04:09
Dr_Willismy current netbook is ubuntu 'certified' but it still has a few quirks.04:09
reisiopresumably because they don't sell as many04:09
Sir_Letohttp://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/models/?csrfmiddlewaretoken=Tq4jikYqiYOIyY1iXcdz3gqGzzBklSSo&query=&category=Laptop&level=Any&release=04:09
Sir_Letoreisio: It does have high end specs though04:09
reisioSir_Leto: it does04:09
justicefriesugh sound just shouldn't be this poor.04:10
reisioincluding 226GB more SSD than anyone would need04:10
fishcookeri've 10.04.1 box04:14
fishcookerwhy i cant do this04:14
fishcookersudo add-apt-repository ppa:cherokee-webserver04:14
fishcookersudo apt-get install software-properties-common04:14
fishcookerthere is no package for it04:15
fishcookersolved04:16
Dr_Willisthe repo may not have anything for 10.0404:16
Dr_Willisand you DID do a sudo apt-get update, after adding the repo?04:17
fishcookeryes Dr_Willis04:17
fishcookersudo apt-get install python-software-properties04:17
fishcookerthat solve my problem04:17
Ben64its probably time to upgrade to 12.0404:18
Ari-Yang!EOL > fishcooker04:19
ubottufishcooker, please see my private message04:19
zykotick9Ben64: considering all previous releases are EOL (on desktop), it'd say yes.04:20
zykotick9s/it'd/i'd/04:20
Ben64zykotick9: that wouldn't work, would be easier to do s/it/i/04:22
zykotick9Ben64: :) good point.  does ' mess with things? (i'm assuming by your comment, it does)04:22
Ben64yeah, would need to escape them, like s/it\'d/i\'d/ but that looks silly04:23
pepees/\/\\\\/\//04:24
CodeOmegaPrimeI installed ubuntu 13.04 and them updated and installed gnome now when I login my screen is black with a cursor.04:24
pepeeCodeOmegaPrime, upgrade to 13.10 ? :P04:24
pepeeit will be released in a couple days, so...04:25
CodeOmegaPrimeDoesnt really fix the fact my work machine is jow a paperweight until its working04:25
wilee-nileefishcooker, It's just called cherokee in the ppa04:25
Ben64CodeOmegaPrime: what exactly did you do04:26
CodeOmegaPrimeI installed gnome then ati drivers then ran sudo aticonfig --initial --adapter=all04:27
pepeeCodeOmegaPrime, upgrade from the tty ?04:27
CodeOmegaPrimeYes04:27
pepeeCodeOmegaPrime, looks like a problem with fglrx...04:27
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: fglrx is horrible..... and it has horrible 2d acceleration, you'd only use it if you were a gamer04:28
Ari-Yangif you aren't, you're better off with the open source radeon driver04:28
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: what card do you have?04:29
CodeOmegaPrimeLet me look I do play some games04:29
CodeOmegaPrimeAnd program them04:29
wilee-nileeCodeOmegaPrime, installed gnome, the shell?04:30
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: what card do you have?04:30
CodeOmegaPrimeHD 6530D04:30
CodeOmegaPrimeRadeon04:31
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: tbh you're better off with installing kernel 3.10 or 3.11, and mesa git, with this setup it rivals fglrx04:32
superbootHi all. I know it's old new, but I'm still not over the death of Gnome 2. Anyone else?04:33
Ari-Yang!offtopic > superboot04:33
ubottusuperboot, please see my private message04:33
pepeesuperboot, mint ?04:33
CodeOmegaPrimeAri-Yang will that work for games too04:33
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: yes....04:33
superbootAri-Yang: Ah, thanks.04:34
pepeeCodeOmegaPrime, you may find some bugs though..04:34
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: and if you're using xf86-ati driver 7.2, and mesa 9.2 at least, you can have hardware video decoding support04:34
pepeesuperboot, AFAIK mint still uses gnome204:34
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: yeah what pepee you might find some bugs... I'm using it myself and so far everything is fine...but it may not be the same for you04:34
pepeeI get black screen after resume from suspend :'(04:35
pepeeI'm using the FOSS driver too04:35
CodeOmegaPrimeOk time to dig thanks guys04:36
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: if you're curious use this ppa https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/04:36
zykotick9pepee: i'm assuming you use AMD/ATI, which is NOT FOSS, only OS (open source).04:36
pepeeCodeOmegaPrime, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx , http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM1NDk , http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?82751-How-to-get-dpm-accel-sb-back-end-working-on-Ubu-13-04-%28ppa-preferably-%2904:37
Ari-Yangzykotick9: I think he means open source radeon driver...04:37
pepeezykotick9, yeah, sorry, I don't understand the difference very well04:37
pepeeit's because of the firmware?04:38
zykotick9pepee: many people don't.  but there is nothing "free" if you use ATI/AMD.  yes due to firmware.04:38
pepeek04:38
pepeesaucy should ship libg3dvl-mesa ... it would be less problematic for people to use the radeon driver04:39
Ari-Yangpepee: I'm sticking with 12.10, but it would be a let down if 13.10 isn't shipped with that and mesa 9.2...04:40
charcoHi. I'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bits. My computer FREEZES when I have a userland program use the "read" function and press CTRL-D04:41
pepeewell, it isn't in the repos04:41
pepeeI got mine from oibaf's PPA04:41
pepeepackaged for raring04:41
Ari-Yangpepee: I installed using oibaf's ppa as well04:41
charcoI can't find if it's a bug that only happens to me o what. But I think it's weird.04:41
pepeecharco, that's really weird04:42
charcopepee, yes, yes it is. Do you have any idea of what should I do?04:42
charcoI was just testing something, used read in a program, and hit CTRL-D.. the whole system freezes =/04:43
wilee-nileecharco, userland is not in the repos right?04:43
charcoI think that probably there's a memory leak somewhere. Because suddenly it fills my ram(8GB) and swap04:43
pepeewell, I'd try connecting from another machine and watching the processes04:44
pepeecharco, what program?04:44
charcowilee-nilee, just a normal program. calling read(0, buffer, 1023);04:44
pepeecould be a bug in that particular program04:44
wilee-nileecharco, userland is not in the repos right?04:44
pepeewilee-nilee, userland means, not as root AFAIK04:45
wilee-nilee3rd party apps are basically not supported here is all04:45
nrdbhello .... I am trying to get a VM to network boot via nfs ... I have setup a directory for the nfsroot which I think is correct ... the VM does boot to some iso mounts :-) ... but fails when trying to use the nfsroot I have setup ... saying failed "Gave up waiting" ... when it drops to BusyBox the if isn't configured :-) ... can anyone help04:45
charcowilee-nilee, my program only does this system call.. just calls to read to fill a buffer from STDIN. There's no other program.04:46
zykotick9pepee: userland means "non-kernel" basically.  root vs non-root is different.04:46
pepeeoh yeah, sorry04:48
pepeecharco, well, what if you try reinstalling some packages?04:49
pepeeI dunno, but people seem more knowledgeable in ##linux ..04:49
charcoThis only happens on my ubuntu 12.04, not my xubuntu 12.0404:51
zykotick9charco: consider reporting a bug then... although it's most likely a waste of time...04:52
CodeOmegaPrimePurging amd proprietary drivers and I am back up.04:52
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: you uninstalled them?04:53
Ari-Yangs/them/it04:53
charcozykotick9, I will try to know what is happening first. I think it's weird.  =/04:53
charcoThanks guys!04:53
CodeOmegaPrimeAri-yang yez I did04:54
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: okay, so what are you going to do?04:55
CodeOmegaPrimeI think I am goinv to follow your advice.04:55
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: alright~04:56
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: question, does your gpu heat up a lot?04:56
CodeOmegaPrimeNope04:56
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: okay; go on ahead and add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/04:57
nrdbhello .... I am trying to get a VM to network boot via nfs ... I have setup a directory for the nfsroot which I think is correct ... the VM does boot to some iso mounts :-) ... but fails when trying to use the nfsroot I have setup ... saying failed "Gave up waiting" ... when it drops to BusyBox the network isn't configured :-( ... should eth0 be configured?  when I tried to manually configure eth0 and mount the nfsroot.  It hung when try04:57
nrdbing to mount the root :-(04:57
CodeOmegaPrimeOk04:57
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: install everything in mesa, linux-firmware, and xserver-xorg-video-ati packages04:57
Dr_Willissounds like the nfsroot is incorrect04:58
Ari-Yangif you want to look at the contents, CodeOmegaPrime click on 'view package details' to see04:58
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: actually no04:58
Dr_Willisnrdb:  i seem to recall doing that once - ages ago. i had vm#1 netbooting vm#2 as a test case. but i cnt even rember the disrto i used.04:58
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: easier way would be to add the package and run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:58
Ari-Yang!dist-upgrade | CodeOmegaPrime04:58
ubottuCodeOmegaPrime: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.04:58
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nrdbDr_Willis, ok.. shouldn't the kernel setup eth0 very early?  before droping to BusyBox04:59
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Dr_Willisnrdb:  the initrd process i think does stuff.  using busybox. then hands off to the actual system.05:00
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: when you're done running dist-upgrade, reboot05:01
Dr_Willisnrdb:  sounds like it may not be getting the right hand off.05:01
CodeOmegaPrimeOk will do05:01
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: what kernel version are you running on?05:02
CodeOmegaPrime3.8.0.3105:02
nrdbDr_Willis, that is what I thought ... but when but when it gets to the busybox eth0 is still unconfigured which means that it can't even try to mount the root... any ideas on what could stop it?05:02
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: yeah, I recommend you upgrade to latest mainline kernel http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.4-saucy/05:03
Dr_Willisnrdb:  nope - not really. could be the initrd dosent have all the drivers needed for your nic05:03
Ari-Yangwhen the stuff from dist-upgrade is done installing, CodeOmegaPrime, install the right .deb files for your system. if you're on amd64 download and install the amd64 headers, headers-all, and the amd64 image05:04
nrdbDr_Willis, but if it didn't ... wouldn't it not allow an "ifconfig eth0 <ip>" to work?05:04
CodeOmegaPrimeFrom the link right05:04
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Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: yes from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.4-saucy/05:05
CodeOmegaPrimeOk05:05
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Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: you want these http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/4637676405:06
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Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: let me know when you're done installing the stuff and kernel 3.1105:07
Ari-Yang(before you reboot)05:07
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: you are on 64-bit, yes?05:08
CurtisbeefI have a AMD 5700 HD and Im trying to get ubuntu setup anyone know what could be causing this multiple monitor issue? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoMUu5qBypA05:14
Guest52707bocaneri05:14
bocaneriGuest52707, you're going to wind up being klined if you don't cut that out.05:15
Ari-YangCurtisbeef: I'm not sure... did you try running xrandr --auto in terminal ?05:15
CodeOmegaPrimeYes I am05:15
Ari-Yangokay05:16
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: run this in terminal and tell me the output lspci | grep VGA after you've installed everything I told you to05:16
Guest52707bocaneri unban05:16
Curtisbeef Ari-Yang hmm na im kindof a noob. Im in win7 now this was a few days ago05:16
Ari-YangCurtisbeef: my hdmi works fine when I open a terminal and run xrandr --auto05:17
lotuspsychjebocaneri: might be same guy as yesterday05:17
Curtisbeefim running it off a Displayport adaptor it works fine in win7 though05:17
lotuspsychje!xrandr | Curtisbeef05:19
ubottuCurtisbeef: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1205:19
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lkthomashey guys, anyone using snapraid ?05:25
lotuspsychjelkthomas: best is to shoot your issue here mate05:25
lkthomasis it ok to run mysql DB on it ?05:26
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lotuspsychjelkthomas: ubuntu uses lamp server, not sure what snapraid is but i dont think it would be a problem05:27
lotuspsychje!lamp | lkthomas05:27
ubottulkthomas: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.05:27
lotuspsychjelkthomas: can you explain how snapraid works and wich ubuntu version you are on?05:28
lkthomasI think that's not what I expect, I need someone who have experience with snapraid before comment anything05:29
lotuspsychjelkthomas: i think the ##hardware channel might be more of use for you then05:29
Paulus68_1!snapraid05:29
lkthomasit's not a hardware RAI either05:29
lkthomasRAID*05:29
lotuspsychje!raid | lkthomas05:30
ubottulkthomas: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto05:30
lotuspsychjelkthomas: maybe under software raid05:30
lkthomascome on, LOL05:30
lotuspsychjelkthomas: how can we help you if you cant provide details..05:31
lkthomasI already did05:31
lotuspsychjelkthomas: you asked experience not an error05:31
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: I have to go so I typed this up for you http://paste.opensuse.org/7685614205:32
lkthomasthat's correct, no error05:32
Ari-YangCodeOmegaPrime: do that after you're done doing what I told you earlier...05:32
lkthomasI think I need to take a look how snapraid going to distribute data in file level05:32
CodeOmegaPrimeThank you I am working through itnthanks again your Awsome05:32
Ari-Yangyou're welcome, I hope everything works out05:32
lotuspsychjelkthomas: as for now its not really ubuntu-related05:32
lkthomasI better leave it here05:33
lkthomasthis topic is beyond the knowledge of what we have here05:34
lotuspsychjelkthomas: maybe it wont if you was installing ubuntu on it..05:34
lkthomasnevermind05:35
lkthomasI am on my own05:35
lkthomaslotuspsychje: one question for you, which I know the answer but worth for you to think; what kind of error that in general RAID can't detect ?05:36
lotuspsychjelkthomas: thats a bit offtopic mate05:36
lotuspsychjelkthomas: we support ubuntu here05:36
gulag2013Gratitude, for the hard work that everyone here contributes to helping others.05:37
lkthomaslotuspsychje: it's not, when you put data on ubuntu, you want it safe05:37
lkthomaslotuspsychje: think outside the box man05:37
* lkthomas back to his research05:37
helmut_hi05:38
lotuspsychjegulag2013: tnx for your feedback to all helpers05:38
lotuspsychjesomeone know what to fill in the setup part of a iscsi where it asks ip/port/username?05:38
lotuspsychjesetup of ubuntu 13.04 on a hp server05:39
lotuspsychjelkthomas: feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask about snapraid05:40
lotuspsychjelkthomas: this would be the ubuntu tut: http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Configure-the-server/Install-SnapRAID.html05:42
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sideshhi06:05
sideshis there any one to help me06:06
lotuspsychje!ask | sidesh06:06
ubottusidesh: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:06
sideshfogger in not intalling through software center06:08
sideshhow can i intall fogger06:09
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aeon-ltdsidesh: is it available in the repos? or ppa?06:11
aeon-ltd!info fogger06:12
ubottuPackage fogger does not exist in raring06:12
aeon-ltdguess not...06:12
aeon-ltdsidesh: you'll have to search for a ppa or compile it yourself06:12
sideshyes it is but when i install it it ask for ubuntu one id and when i provide software center stop responding06:13
wyldesidesh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206419506:13
sideshi am on ubuntu 12.0406:13
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Guest71857Hey everyone, i want to remove system settings and lock screen from the menu top-right, is this possible to customize?06:19
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lotuspsychjeGuest71568: you can install ubuntu-tweak to remove those06:19
lotuspsychjecbilljones: oh this was for you06:20
cbilljoneslotuspsychje i tried that but couldnt find the option06:20
lotuspsychjecbilljones: maybe unity-tweak can do some stuff aswell06:21
lotuspsychje!info unity-tweak | cbilljones06:21
ubottucbilljones: Package unity-tweak does not exist in raring06:21
lotuspsychjehmm06:21
Dr_Willisi get all the tweak tools names confused.06:21
lotuspsychje!info unity-tweak-tool06:22
ubottuunity-tweak-tool (source: unity-tweak-tool): configuration manager for Unity desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.4ubuntu0.1 (raring), package size 414 kB, installed size 2139 kB06:22
lotuspsychjeaha06:22
Dr_Willisunsettings, ubuntu-tweak  gnome-tweak-tool06:22
lotuspsychjelol06:22
Dr_Williswe need a tweak tool to tweak the tweak tools06:22
lotuspsychjehaha06:22
snkcldeven grappeli is reporting "The venue "test" was added successfully."06:23
cbilljoneslotuspsychje i am able to install ubuntu-tweak/unity-tweak-tool with ppa, reinstalling now; were do i find option to customize that menu?06:23
snkcldah, i know what it is. the save() function is calling out to a geocoding api, and that must be failing so its bailing the save.06:23
lotuspsychjecbilljones: not sure about systemsettings, but you can remove the lock screen i think06:24
cbilljoneslotuspsychje hmm i need to find a way to remove the "system settings" option mainly06:24
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cbilljoneslotuspsychje i dont want users to be able to easily access that06:25
lotuspsychjecbilljones: well systemsettings requiere root priveleges06:26
Dr_WillisHmm.. i dident think they all do06:26
Dr_Willisim on razorqt so my system settings may be differnt however. l;)06:27
cbilljoneslotuspsychje no, i can change many settings there without escalating privlages06:27
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lotuspsychjecbilljones: maybe here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/44171/is-there-a-way-to-move-remove-system-settings-from-the-shut-down-menu06:28
lotuspsychjehmm thats for 11.0406:28
lotuspsychjenot sure it will work06:28
k1l_!find fogger06:29
ubottuPackage/file fogger does not exist in raring06:29
cbilljoneslotuspsychje ya im scared to try that, mark said it will change in future release06:29
cbilljoneslotuspsychje im thinking there must be a file somewhere i can edit to customize that menu06:30
Dr_Williscbilljones:  normally theres gconf settings. not files.06:30
Dr_Willisbut not all settings are changeable. :)06:30
cbilljonesdr_willis that would work too, maybe a gconf setting then hehe06:31
lotuspsychjeor dconf yes06:31
Dr_Willismost all the tweak tools just alter the gconf settings/dconf/whateverconf06:31
cbilljonesdr_willis any idea were i should look for those settings in particular? :)06:32
Dr_Williscbilljones:  not really. askubuntu.com might have some info. or it might just not be doable.06:32
lotuspsychjecbilljones: how about this1? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176181006:33
Dr_Willisi dont see why it matters much. the user can always run that gnome-settings-manager or whatever its called06:33
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jonascjAnyone using mozilla thunderbird (and lightning + google data provider)? This morning when I started my laptop thunderbird starts up asking me to setup my email account. I had 4 accounts setup yesterday. The ~/.thunderbird/profile.ini points to the right location and the location still exists.06:33
cbilljonesdr_willis, i know, i just want to make it harder, these will be touch screens, with panel hidden, if user plugs in a keyboard and messes with stuff, he can pay for a service call lol06:34
cbilljonesloyuspsychje that looks promising, trying now06:35
lotuspsychjecross fingers06:35
cbilljoneslotuspsychje yup hehe its rebooting now, will know soon06:36
lotuspsychje:p06:36
k1l_sidesh: you need this PPA iirc: https://launchpad.net/~loneowais/+archive/fogger06:36
cbilljoneslotuspsychje damn its still there lol, checked loc for link and its still gone, its pulling it from somewhere else it seems :(06:38
lotuspsychjestrange06:39
RezkonHi i need some help06:39
Rory!ask | Rezkon06:39
ubottuRezkon: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:39
lotuspsychjeRory: you know how cbilljones can remove systemsettings from logout menu?06:40
cbilljoneslotuspsychje im digging through dconf-editor, see if anything there06:40
cfhowlett!details|Rezkon, no telepaths here.  describe your issue.06:40
ubottuRezkon, no telepaths here.  describe your issue.: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:40
Rorylotuspsychje: I'm sure you don't mean me06:41
Dr_Willisif its a koisk do you even want the logout menu?06:41
RoryOh you're asking if I know06:41
lotuspsychjeRory: yes i mean you maybe you also know :p06:41
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cbilljonesdr_willis ya that one is ok, its a point of sale terminal, user should be able to easily logout/reboot06:41
RezkonOh Sorry, Ok so im reading a book called hacking the art of expoiltation, it using ubuntu with a linux kernal i belive but i keep getting errors such as "unknown boot option+0x0/0x/19 and random freezes on sda: Assuming etc06:41
RoryIs it in unity-tweak-tool maybe?06:41
RoryRezkon: What Ubuntu version?06:41
cbilljonesrory dont see it in unity-tweak06:42
cbilljonesrory 14.0406:42
cbilljonesrory 13.0406:42
Rorycbilljones: No, that doesn't exist06:42
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Roryoh OK06:42
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Rezkon7 id belive its a old book06:42
Rorylol Rezkon06:42
RoryRezkon: go to Ubuntu.com and download a version that isn't from 200706:42
Rory!eol | Rezkon06:43
ubottuRezkon: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades06:43
cbilljonesrory i like it cause all my hardware works out of the box including touch, just trying to get it perfect for large scale deployment06:43
Dr_Williscbilljones:  i notice that lubuntu has some sort of nexux7 desktop mode. ;)  wonder if that would be better for a touchscreen06:44
RezkonRory, the book im reading LiveCD has SRC codes and that in it andits all based on 7 :\ Reckon just read the book and follow as best as  i an06:44
RoryRezkon: Did you get it installed OK?06:44
RezkonNup.06:45
Rezkonthis just boooting06:45
Rezkonim using a VM Player though06:45
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cbilljonesdr_willis i may look at it, but for the most part i like unity, hiding panel solves most issues, it just this last small thing lol06:46
RoryRezkon: I think you should download a version that's supported. 7.10 hasn't been supported since 200906:46
RoryRezkon: You can still use source code from the CD06:46
deckardhello, are there any cool looking terminals? with cool fonts?06:47
Dr_Willisdeckard:  install whatever monospaced fonts you want and uise in what ever terminal you want06:48
deckarddo you know of any like themed terminals? like games?06:48
Dr_Willis!info terminator06:49
ubottuterminator (source: terminator): multiple GNOME terminals in one window. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96-2fakesync1 (raring), package size 257 kB, installed size 1777 kB06:49
lotuspsychjecbilljones: i think ubuntu wants users to be able to config their own settings for their desktop..06:49
Dr_Willis!info eterm | deckard06:49
ubottudeckard: eterm (source: eterm): Enlightened Terminal Emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-1 (raring), package size 351 kB, installed size 915 kB06:49
deckardty06:49
lotuspsychjecbilljones: and settings like installing software and such: root axs06:49
cbilljoneslotuspsychje ya it kind of looks like that maybe the case06:50
lotuspsychjecbilljones: users wont be able to mess up your desktop right06:50
lotuspsychjejust their own06:50
sgarbesii'm attempting to get a cronjob to run every minute to kick up a nodejs server, thing is it doesn't seem to actually kick it off and i have no idea why. if i run the command manually it works no problem06:51
sgarbesihere is the command: /usr/bin/flock -n /tmp/mysite.com.lock /usr/local/bin/nodemon /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/mysite.com/workspace/bootstrap.js >> /var/log/node/mysite.com.log 2>&106:51
Dr_Willissgarbesi:  comon issues. the $PATH is differnt, use full paths. dont use shortcuts06:52
lotuspsychjecbilljones: maybe look into chmod and !security for tighten your system even more06:52
lkthomasis there have any file system which would be read only after creation ?06:52
sgarbesisyslog isn't showing any errors so I'm stumped06:52
Dr_Willisalso cron uses sh, not bash    which can cause issues06:52
sgarbesiDr_Willis so prefix /bin/bash ?06:52
cbilljoneslotuspsychje ya but the software will run from their profile and inside it; i suppose they cant do any real damage there; and we just tell them they screw with stuff and they may have to pay for service call; its still way more locked down then our windows units06:52
Dr_Willissgarbesi:  id make a bash script that the cron job calls06:53
sgarbesican i just do it in a one liner? i have a bunch of these that need to run for each domain, i really don't want to have to spin up a bunch of .sh files if i can avoid it :/06:53
lotuspsychjecbilljones: ubuntu will have seperate stuff for users indeed, they cant do any 'real' harm on your system06:53
lotuspsychjecbilljones: maybe you can also look into chatcafe software or nanny software for ubuntu06:55
cbilljoneslotuspsychje i may see how running without DE at all goes, or ive though about maybe just lxde and our software06:55
wyldelkthomas: you can use squashfs-tools to make compressed versions of filesystems that can be mounted and are read only.... unless of course you append more files using mksquashfs tool :)06:55
lotuspsychjecbilljones: you might be able to lock down more stuff you reall want06:55
lkthomaswylde: does squashfs is the only option?06:56
lotuspsychjecbilljones: would be cool to have the user only surf the web lol06:56
sgarbesiDr_Willis I dropped it into a .sh file, still no good :/06:57
wyldelkthomas: I doubt it's the only option. First one that came to mind.06:57
sgarbesithis really has me stumped06:57
lkthomaswylde: is it very complex to make squashfs?06:57
cbilljoneslotuspsychje or old units run a dedicated xsession for our pos, but we can login to gnome if we need to. I think there are benifits to hving a desktop running always though, then i could fix things without logging out06:58
lotuspsychjecbilljones: i use sux for that tnx to Dr_Willis06:58
wyldelkthomas: nope, I use it to make backups of my VPS all the time. The stock version in repos only includes gzip compression though. Which is fine if you don't really care about actually compressing the filesystem.06:58
lotuspsychje!info sux | cbilljones06:59
ubottucbilljones: sux (source: sux): wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-6 (raring), package size 9 kB, installed size 64 kB06:59
lotuspsychjecbilljones: you can then sux yourusername firefox from any desktop/login06:59
cbilljoneslotuspsychje i dont think i need that for what im doing06:59
lotuspsychjeok06:59
wyldelkthomas: I have a build with xz compression support in my own ppa.07:00
cbilljoneslotuspsychje priv escalation is already perfect for what im doing07:00
lkthomaswylde: I want to replicate WORM on tape by using linux file system07:00
lotuspsychjecbilljones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/47640/is-there-a-cyber-cafe-program-for-server-client-places-internet-cafe07:00
cbilljoneslotuspsychje this isnt a kiosk/public machine :|07:01
lotuspsychjeanyway coffetime now07:01
lotuspsychjecbilljones: gl with your security07:01
cbilljonesthx07:02
cbilljonesanyone else have any ideas? trying to remove "system settings" from shutdown menu - top right07:03
wyldelkthomas: I'm not familiar with WORM, but from a super quick skim of my google search on it, yes. squashfs will do that. You can even mount then export the filesystems over the network. It can preserve all file permissions, XATTRs exactly as they are on the filesystem when you make the "squashed" image.07:03
wylde!info squashfs-tools | lkthomas07:04
ubottulkthomas: squashfs-tools (source: squashfs-tools): Tool to create and append to squashfs filesystems. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2+20121212-1 (raring), package size 85 kB, installed size 269 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)07:04
lkthomaswylde: I will test it for sure. Is that impossible to mount SquashFS into Read-write mode after it's created ?07:04
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wyldelkthomas: no. You can append data to it, not modify or update existing data without rebuilding the entire filesystem. There are ways to make it "appear" read/write using squashfs with unionfs07:05
lkthomaswylde: what do you mean by "appear" ?07:06
jonascjI'm still having issues with my thunderbird. I does not use the profile i specify in ~/.thunderbird/profiles.ini. I've added a calendar and the calendar stays there in thunderbird no matter what profile I specify (e.g. it should disappear when I switch away from the profile for which it was defined).07:06
wyldelkthomas: not sure I can explain it properly off the top of my head. Gimme a sec. I have a link here somewhere about using squashfs with unionfs.07:07
lkthomasthanks07:07
jonascjif I remove the profiles.ini thunderbird does create a new one in the folder where the previous profiles.ini was located. This leads me to believe I have the right folder, at least.07:07
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wyldelkthomas: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/SquashFS-HOWTO/  and http://www.filesystems.org/project-unionfs.html07:09
lkthomasthanks07:09
lkthomaslet me have a look07:09
lkthomasOH07:09
lkthomasthe first line of unionfs explain everything07:09
CurtisbeefSo im still having this problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoMUu5qBypA I tried xrandr --auto and specificly setting it but i still get WSOD on the other 2 screens07:10
CurtisbeefI can use mouse just fine in other screens but it wont drag windows or anything else07:10
Paulus68_1system wide I'm using english however I discover that when I use the date time it's in German how can I adapt this to English?07:11
wilee-nileejonascj, check .config in home07:11
jonascjwilee-nilee: Thanks - I will07:11
jonascjwilee-nilee: the .config folder holds no mozilla or thunderbird folders (or files)07:12
Dr_Willis~/.mozilla/07:13
wilee-nileejonascj, I was not sure.07:13
Curtisbeefcan anyone help with my display problem?07:13
jonascjwilee-nilee: of course - but good suggestions :) It is as if thunderbird is ignoring what in the profiles.ini. Or of course my profiles folder could be corrupted07:14
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jeetpeiHi all07:16
mariostz__hi all07:17
jeetpeii am seeing following error while copying files in samba share .. please let me know if any suggestion disk_free: sys_fsusage() failed. Error was : Permission denied07:17
mariostz__did someone got opinion for 13.10?07:17
Paulus68_1!13.1007:18
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.07:18
Dr_Willisdoes it matter? :) use it if you want.. stick to lts if you dont07:18
k1lmariostz__: for 13.10 support see #ubuntu+1 for opinions we have a talk channnel in #ubuntu-offtopic07:18
mariostz__i use them now 4 days07:19
mariostz__and are ok07:19
bazhangmariostz__, discussion in #ubuntu+1 not here07:20
Curtisbeefok so I got extended desktops working on three monitors but now I have the Unity bar and taskbar on every monitor07:20
RoryCurtisbeef: Open up Display preferences, and then you can choose between having the launcher on one display or all of them.07:21
k1lCurtisbeef: install unity-tweak-tool07:21
krzwill a package for 12.04 lts work in 13.04?07:21
Rorykrz: Probably, depends on what it is07:21
Paulus68_1system wide I'm using english however I discover that when I use the date time it's in German how can I adapt this to English?07:21
krzRory: http://docs.fluentd.org/articles/install-by-deb07:22
krzfluentd07:22
RoryPaulus68_1: I have a similar problem but mine's Italian, let me know if you fix it07:22
CurtisbeefRory: if I open Display in options i get a error saying Rand extention not present07:22
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k1lkrz: its not recommended to do that. most times it doesnt work because of the depencies07:22
CurtisbeefRANDR*07:23
RoryCurtisbeef: Ah, nvidia? I don't know. Maybe using unity-tweak-tool07:23
Curtisbeefna AMD07:23
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krzk1l: k07:26
jack4wnext ubuntu07:27
jack4wWhen will the next ubuntu release?.07:28
icerootjack4w: #ubuntu+107:28
cfhowlett!saucy|jack4w,07:28
ubottujack4w,: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.07:28
Dr_Williswe seem to get asked that like every 20 min. ;)07:32
RoryDr_Willis: Who thinks "I wonder when the next Ubuntu release is coming? I know, I'll open my IRC client, connect to Freenode, join #ubuntu and ask in there"07:33
RoryDr_Willis: "gosh darn I wish there were an easier way!"07:34
Dr_Willisnext they will ask if we can upgrade to final.. since ya know. you cant do release upgrades.. ;) so beta has to be the same@ ;)07:34
Dr_Willisoh wait.. thats not right. ;) oh well.  Im suprised its the 17th.  i thought it was always at the end of the month07:35
ntzrmtthihu777heyo. anyone aware of how to disable that trackpoint/blue nipple thingie in the middle of my keyboard?07:35
Paulus68_1Rory: Go to system settings Language support then regional formats change Italian to your language07:35
Paulus68_1Rory: and hit apply system wide07:35
RoryPaulus68_1: Oh no it's ONLY the date and time applet. Everything else is fine07:35
RoryPaulus68_1: I've done that ages ago07:35
Dr_Willisntzrmtthihu777:  unload the module controllng it?07:35
cfhowlettRory, ONLY that command?07:35
RoryPaulus68_1: It doesn't bother me that it's ottober instead of october07:36
Paulus68_1Rory: well on my side it was in Deutsch and changed it to English :) that solved the problem07:36
RoryPaulus68_1: I'll try it again next time I'm on my laptop. It's because I installed this spin of Ubuntu which uses Mate and makes it look like the old Ubuntu Gnome2 desktop, but it's an Italian distro07:37
Paulus68_1Rory: ok07:37
sgarbesianybody mind trying to help w/ this cronjob issue? I'm stumped07:38
ntzrmtthihu777Dr_Willis: having issue identifying it, lol. would you mind assisting?07:38
Xeeshuhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-goBbiIecTSU/UlPMUdCKFYI/AAAAAAABcio/T6abLaPoDTI/w426-h411/tumblr_mubrokWa6E1qdlh1io1_400.gif07:38
Dr_Willisntzrmtthihu777:  i got a script to turn off my touchpad. ;) it may do it.07:38
Dr_Willis pastebinit bin/touchpad-toggle07:39
Dr_Willishttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6212710/07:39
ntzrmtthihu777Dr_Willis: problem is this particular machine has a host of input devices, not sure which of xinput list is the right one to use. (5 point touchscreen, stylus with 2 buttons, touchpad [misdetected as ps/2 mouse unfortuneatly], trackpoint/touch nipple)07:41
Dr_Willisgo down the list perhaps disabline each one?07:42
ntzrmtthihu777Dr_Willis: well I think I have the right one, but running xinput disable "the name" gives an error.07:42
Dr_Willisxinput list07:42
ntzrmtthihu777http://sprunge.us/SbYj07:43
ntzrmtthihu777I think its that XTEST pointer07:43
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ntzrmtthihu777Dr_Willis: disabling PS/2 mouse disables it, but also the actual touchpad. I have a wired usb mouse, but I'd rather like to keep my touchpad for those moments I just don't feel like dealing with additional hardware07:45
sgarbesi./bin/sh -c breaks my command from the cron apparently07:45
plagueHello! I cannot seem to upgrade any suggestions please http://paste.ubuntu.com/6212723/07:45
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cfhowlett!details|plague,07:48
ubottuplague,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."07:48
wilee-nileeplague, If you use the update manager do you see partial upgrade?07:49
Roryplague: sudo apt-get -f install07:49
jeetpei!samba407:53
Vialashi jeetpei07:53
jeetpeiVialas: Hi07:53
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plagueRory: i am using sudo apt-get -f intall, and this is what i get from it http://paste.ubuntu.com/6212755/07:55
Roryplague: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages07:55
jeetpeiwhat's up Vialas ?07:55
Roryplague: I need to leave now, so if that doesn't work, someone else can help you. Show them that script07:56
plagueRory ok thanks07:56
Ben64Rory: that looks sketchy as all get out07:56
StrangeNoisesso, anyone else getting this or know how to fix it?: On Saucy, using Firefox, Youtube audio is disabled and un-turn-onnable (shows speaker+X in the player) but other flash audio works just fine, eg: bbc news/iplayer07:56
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wilee-nilee!saucy | StrangeNoises08:00
ubottuStrangeNoises: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.08:00
RoryBen64: Huh?08:00
RoryBen64: I post it all the time, have you read it?08:00
RoryBen64: http://rory.sh/fixpackages look at what it does, it saves me a million years of time diagnosing random apt and dpkg problems08:01
Ben64yeah i did look at it08:01
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Ben64just seems sketchy to download something from you and run it heh08:01
Rorylol thanks08:01
RoryOf course anyone in this channel would read a script before running it08:01
Ben64i'm not sure about that08:02
RoryWell that's their choice08:02
StrangeNoiseswell, that's a waste of time then08:02
RoryA certain amount of trust has to be assumed from the helpee to the helper08:02
Ben64well there are people who just try to get people to run rm /08:02
jeetpeiseems so08:03
jeetpeiscript removing everything08:03
jeetpeilol08:03
plagueRory i read script and it seem safe, sadly still have errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6212773/08:04
jeetpeibug id 1217149 please confirm08:05
wmunnyHello everyone my first time here but I really need some help08:07
Ben64plague: what exactly are you trying to do08:07
wmunnyI have tried a lot of distros om my pc finaly stopped at ubuntu but my mobile broadband wont conn3ct08:07
mika__Something weird has happened to my ubuntu. I can login through CLI (ctrl+alt+F1), but now its asking passwd on GUI side??? And it won't let me in!. etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf has all the settings that it shouldn't even ask passwd while login. Do i have virus? :D08:08
plagueBen64 well i'm just tyring to update and upgrade packages.08:08
wmunnyThe only distro that it worked out of the box was debian08:08
jeetpeiplague: can you check bug id 1160346.08:09
ntzrmtthihu777what a pain =_=08:09
wmunnySo if some one could help me??08:09
Ben64jeetpei: don't just highlight random people to get them to fix your problems : /08:09
Ben64plague: have you tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:10
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wmunnySo there is a way to use the debian networkmanager on ubuntu 13.0408:10
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cfhowlettwmunny, have you even tried ubuntu's network manager?08:10
ntzrmtthihu777well, I have a more ubuntu specific question. launchpad wants me to test against testing kernel 3.12, but idk if an iso with that has it. I know there were debs for 3.11, but that doesn't help in a live environment; so can I build an ubuntu iso with 3.12?08:10
wmunnyCfhowlett : yes it shows my signal level but it wont connect08:11
plagueBen64 now i have does not help  System.map-3.5.0-41-generic08:12
plaguesorry wrong paste08:12
plagueBen64 6.90.92.rev.sfr.net) has joined channel #ubuntu08:12
Ben64...08:12
plagueexcuse me08:12
mika__i have to add that this problem just started and i haven't done anything else but update all the packages what default updatemanager wants.08:13
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dhruvasagarHey anybody using ubuntu on macbook ?08:30
vlt!anyone | dhruvasagar08:30
ubottudhruvasagar: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.08:30
dhruvasagarI tried upgrading kernel to 3.8 by installing the raring backports version, but my wireless doesn't work08:30
ActionParsnipdhruvasagar: what wifi chip?08:31
dhruvasagarActionParsnip: broadcom08:31
ActionParsnipdhruvasagar: which broadcom?08:31
dhruvasagarActionParsnip: how can I tell ?/08:32
dhruvasagarbcm5776508:33
dhruvasagarsorry08:33
dhruvasagarbcm433108:33
dhruvasagarI got it working by installing b43-firmware08:33
dhruvasagarActionParsnip: by following this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Oneiric#Wireless08:34
dhruvasagarActionParsnip: but if I upgrade my kernel it doesn't work.08:34
dhruvasagarActionParsnip: http://mergy.org/2013/03/ubuntu-kernel-updates-mess-up-wireless-on-macbook-pro-82/ should I try this ?08:34
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asdf11When I install AMD Drivers for HD 7950 (13.4) I got blackscreen after reboot, this have happen 5 times in a row. Can somebody please assist me? I have followed both AMD guide and ubuntu wiki08:42
Dr_WillisYou checked askubuntu.com about tha specific chipset?08:42
ActionParsnipdhruvasagar: reinstall the broadcom driver packags, may help / show the issue08:42
ActionParsnipdhruvasagar: why do you need the 2.8 kernel?08:42
dhruvasagarActionParsnip: not 2.8, 3.808:43
ActionParsnipdhruvasagar: 3.8, sorry08:43
dhruvasagarActionParsnip: wanted to try docker08:43
ActionParsnipdhruvasagar: why isthe 3.5 or 3.2 not doing what you need?08:43
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dhruvasagarActionParsnip: docker suggested for the upgrade08:43
Dr_Willis!info docker08:44
ubottudocker (source: docker): System tray for KDE3/GNOME2 docklet applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-5ubuntu1 (raring), package size 12 kB, installed size 88 kB08:44
ActionParsnipdhruvasagar: just checked the site08:45
ActionParsnipdhruvasagar: seems docker is in the repos :)08:45
dhruvasagarDr_Willis: thanks, I didn't realize docker is available in the repo08:45
dhruvasagarActionParsnip: yea just noticed :)08:45
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dhruvasagarnew08:46
ActionParsnipdhruvasagar: always check the repos, makes life easier08:46
dhruvasagarActionParsnip: true08:47
dhruvasagarActionParsnip: thanks for the help :)08:47
white-howlerhello can some one tell me how to install this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 on the ubuntu 13.04 " i need to downgrade my actual one to this version"08:48
Dr_Willis!find gir-networkmanager08:48
ubottuPackage/file gir-networkmanager does not exist in raring08:49
Dr_Williswhat version is in the 13.04 repos?08:49
white-howler0.9.808:49
mika__maybe dr_willis can help me with my problem? :)08:49
white-howlerand i need 0.9.408:49
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mika__i wrote everything while ago so i will copy it again.08:50
mika__Something weird has happened to my ubuntu. I can login through CLI (ctrl+alt+F1), but now its asking passwd on GUI side??? And it won't let me in!. etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf has all the settings that it shouldn't even ask passwd while login. Do i have virus? :D08:50
gordonjcpmika__: screensaver lock?08:51
Dr_Willissudo service lightdm restart   and restart  X perhaps? ;)08:51
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mika__gordonjcp: well it shouldn't be. i did shutdown my desktop normally. so it shouldn't ask me anything. Anyway, my passwd doesn't work on GUI.08:52
mika__Dr_Willis: i try that already but it didn't help08:52
MickSmika__: do you have multiple keyboard layouts installed, and have some weird chars in your password that translate differently on different keyboard mappings?08:52
mika__MickS:  no i dont have.  finnish mapping :)08:53
bitnumuscan anyone tell me where the hell 'imagewriter' is in ubuntu 13.04 ?08:53
Dr_Willis!find imagewriter08:53
MickSmika__: and you don't see the icon in your GUI which perhaps maps it to EN or something similar?08:53
ubottuFile imagewriter found in app-install-data, faumachine-data, hwb, lazarus-doc-0.9.30.4, libqt4-dev, libqtscript4-doc, python-qt4-dev, python-qt4-doc, python-vmtk, qt4-doc-html (and 1 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=imagewriter&mode=&suite=raring&arch=any08:53
bitnumusDr_Willis,08:54
bitnumusthat didnt help did it /08:54
bitnumushas it just disappeared or something08:54
Dr_Willisi dont even know what imageweriter does.08:54
bitnumushttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+package/usb-imagewriter08:54
mika__MickS: im now on windows side because i have dual boot. but the passwd is normal there isn't any symbols08:54
bitnumusit writes images i guess,  .img filetype08:55
bitnumuspackage link is above, but its not in the repos ?08:55
Dr_Willis.img dosent really mean anything as far as i know.08:55
hillaryhow do i crack into forgoten password in my router in ubuntu 12.0408:55
MickSmika__: another thing I can think of... do you have your homedir encrypted and recently changed your password of your account (and forgetting to change the password of your encrypted homedir)?08:55
Dr_Willisis this  a hard disk image? a cd rom image?08:55
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mika__MickS: i dont have encryption on and like i said..CLI side my passwd works...but not in GUI side :) so i haven't done any changes08:56
llutzmika__: check "ls -ld /tmp" "df -h /tmp" "ls -l ~./Xauthority"08:57
MickSmika__: both options I said have the effect that CLI works, but GUI doesn't, so it would have been possibilities. However... I'm out of options now what else it could be .. I hope someone else here has some bright ideas08:57
llutzmika__: "df -h" not only tmp, sry08:58
ActionParsnipmika__: do you run commands like "sudo gedit" and "sudo nautilus" ?08:58
llutzmika__: so check "ls -ld /tmp" "df -h" "ls -l ~/.Xauthority"08:58
mika__ActionParsnip: yes i do sometimes...08:58
ActionParsnipmika__: this will cause the issue08:58
mika__ActionParsnip: why? :D08:59
ActionParsnipmika__: sudo is NOT suitable for GUI apps, you need to use gksudo or this will keep happening08:59
asdf11God of users, can somebody explain why I can't install AMD Drivers (13.4) for HD 7950? I got blackscreen after reboot!08:59
njsgwhy? sudo keeps $HOME from the non-root user or something?08:59
MickSsudo makes files become root owned08:59
ActionParsnipmika__: boot to root recovery mode (assuming your user is named 'foo'):   chown -R foo:foo /home/foo09:00
Dr_Willis!nomodeset09:00
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter09:00
ActionParsnipnjsg: sudo doesnt set up the environment  correctly for GUI apps09:00
Dr_WillisI dont use ati.  :)09:00
nb-bentry sudo echo $HOME09:00
mika__ActionParsnip: thank you very much :) i will try that soon09:00
MickSexplanation about sudo vs. gksudo:  http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo09:01
ActionParsnipmika__: you can technically use gksudo for both GUI and CLI09:01
mika__ActionParsnip: ok!09:01
ActionParsnipmika__: it makes the ~/.Xauthority owned which is why llutz was asking for its ownership09:01
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mika__ActionParsnip: ahaa. hmm... well i didn't know this. i have using ubuntu a long time, but only now it happened to me :)09:04
ActionParsnip!gksudo | mika__09:04
njsgActionParsnip: what do you mean "properly"? I've used su for graphical applications in the past and things never broke. but that said, I usually do "su - "09:04
ubottumika__: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)09:04
ActionParsnipnjsg: su is to switch user, so you can use that to run apps as other users09:05
njsgActionParsnip: I am aware...09:05
llutznjsg: using plain su - you needed to set display/xauth too09:05
ActionParsnipnjsg: so how do yu run a command, as another command?09:06
njsgActionParsnip: yeah09:06
llutzthat's why (broken) "sux" exists09:06
njsgI never ever use sudo, only now do I use computers with sudo on a daily basis and I just "sudo su"09:06
ActionParsnipnjsg: you mean 'as root' right?09:06
llutznjsg: why not using the recommended way "sudo -i"09:07
njsgActionParsnip: of course. that's kinda implied by "using su" :-)09:07
njsgllutz: what does that do?09:07
ActionParsnipnjsg: you do know that:  sudo -i   will give you root prompt using your user's profile, so enabling the root account as you have, is not needed09:07
llutznjsg: gives you a root-shell and sets correct root-env09:08
ActionParsnipnjsg: the fact that you are asking what that dos should be screaming to you to disable the root account09:08
llutznjsg: man sudo09:08
njsgllutz: I don't have sudo on this machine, I can't RTFM09:08
njsgif I had, I'd have looked it up09:08
k1l!sudo | njsg09:08
ubottunjsg: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo09:08
llutznjsg: man-pages are available in teh web09:08
ActionParsnipnjsg: its default installed in Ubuntu09:08
njsgActionParsnip: I am aware09:09
k1land i dont know of an ubuntu without sudo09:09
njsgI'll check on sudo -i on the ubuntu machine I use, then09:09
ActionParsnipk1l: i think its a dep of most things too09:09
llutzActionParsnip: sudo -i uses roots env, not users profile09:09
ActionParsnipllutz: i thought sudo -s   used roots...09:09
llutzActionParsnip: other way round09:10
ActionParsnipllutz: ahhhh09:10
ActionParsnipllutz: thanks09:10
llutzActionParsnip: -i = initial login09:10
njsgI know that with su, asking for a login shell seems to get me a clean environment09:10
njsgah, then sudo -i is kinda the same as su - ?09:10
ActionParsnipnjsg: yes09:10
llutznjsg: kinda, su  needs an active root account, sudo -i doesn't09:10
ActionParsnipnjsg: this is why you dont need to enable the root account in Ubuntu and why keeping it locked is a good idea09:11
ActionParsnipnjsg: but people seem to 'know better' and enable it09:11
llutzbecause its kewl to have root....09:11
ActionParsnipllutz: sed s/kewl/dumb/g !!09:13
njsgActionParsnip: I prefer to have root accounts on my computer09:14
ActionParsnipnjsg: why?09:14
njsgfor a start, why shouldn't I? if I don't have a root account, I need to have some other user accont where I can log in to root09:15
llutznjsg: you always should have other account, root is not an account to work with09:15
llutzand surely not an account to (rmeote) login with09:16
* cfhowlett ... Thinks "Some people always gotta iceskate uphill."09:16
ivebeenlinuxedI can see both sides - root account allows a group of "admins" to be able to log onto a PC with all permissions - very good when turnover is high09:16
k1lnjsg: please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo09:16
llutzivebeenlinuxed: so does sudo09:16
njsgllutz: root is an account to administer a machine09:16
ivebeenlinuxedhowever not having a root account allows for better accountability - as `last` will show exactly which "root user" gave the instruction which screwed everything up09:16
k1lplease drop the windows-mentality to be always logged in with the "admin" account09:17
njsgI'd even go as far as saying that I'd actually prefer to keep root completely separate from my main account09:17
ActionParsnipnjsg: if you have sudo, you dont need it. You are reducing enabled accounts. Root is also common on al Linux boxes so is prime for brute force attacks09:17
k1lnjsg: no its not on ubuntu09:17
ActionParsnipnjsg: again, why?09:17
k1lnjsg: please see the link i gave you twice now09:17
ActionParsnipnjsg: you can use sudo and have exectly the same access as root.09:17
ivebeenlinuxedllutz: yes, but with high turnover you have to keep adding and removing accounts09:18
ActionParsnipnjsg: you can also control who has access with the sudo group rather than everything done as root with no accountability09:18
k1li know its common to be root all day in other distros. but its not recommended in ubuntu. thats it09:18
llutznjsg: i know, i'm using linux since a while. still, there is hardly need to login as root09:18
ActionParsnipits just dumb and people who enable it imho, don't know what they are doing or enable it for the sake of it when its not a good idea09:18
llutzivebeenlinuxed: sudo logs who/when works with sudo-rights -> better control, more important09:19
ActionParsnipnjsg: so, why do you enable root?09:19
njsgbecause it was already enabled. and I prefer it that way, so I keep it that way09:19
ActionParsnipnjsg: not in Ubuntu its not09:20
ivebeenlinuxedActionParsnip: I disagree. I enable it on a key-based authentication in case the LDAP server goes down - but I'm the only one with the id_rsa09:20
njsgActionParsnip: I am not saying it is.09:20
bitnumuscan someone tell me why this package doesnt seem to be in the repo ?09:20
bitnumushttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+package/usb-imagewriter09:20
ActionParsnipnjsg: well this is Ubuntu support, so its not enabled09:20
isoCharsethi...how can i know what charset is being used in a mounted network device'?09:20
ActionParsnipisoCharset: mount    may tell you09:20
ivebeenlinuxedllutz: I agree, it has better control - I would only use it if LDAP decided not to work09:21
k1lso we talk about a not_ubuntu and argue about the ubuntu way? come on, this is an ubuntu support channel09:21
ActionParsnipbitnumus: does usb-creator-gtk   do the same?09:21
isoCharsetActionParsnip: mount just tells it's mounted using cifs...nothing aout hte charset09:21
ActionParsnipisoCharset: gah09:21
bitnumusif thats the 'startup disk creator' then no09:21
isoCharsetgah?09:21
bitnumusActionParsnip, where is this package??09:21
bitnumuswhy is it on that page but i can't install it09:21
ActionParsnipbitnumus: you can use dd to put img files on USB09:22
ActionParsnipbitnumus: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-imagewriter/+changelog09:22
bitnumusActionParsnip, i know there are other options, but i want to know where its gone09:22
ActionParsnipbitnumus: Deleted in raring-release (Reason: requested by ~pitti/~ogra; depends on very old APIs inclu...)09:22
bitnumusmeh09:22
ActionParsnipbitnumus: from the link I just gave you....09:23
isoCharsethi...how can i know what charset is being used in a mounted network device'?09:25
njsgisoCharset: check "mount", it should show a charset option, if there is any set09:25
njsgif there is none set, it should be using your current locale; you may need to use encoding translations when mounting, say, for windows stuff09:26
isoCharsetnjsg: none is set...so mount tells nothing...but some one mustve been used...which one? how can i get to know?09:26
sgo11hi, my evolution is getting crazy. It is refreshing INBOX and retrieving messages forever. I have many mail accounts. NOW, I disabled all of them and left only one enabled. but it still does not work. How to solve this issue? clean evolution cache somehow? thanks.09:27
llutzisoCharset: "locale" or "echo $LANG"09:27
isoCharsetnjsg: how can i know my current locale, then?09:27
ActionParsnipsgo11: can you ping mail servers? Is your partition full?09:27
ActionParsnipsgo11: is the partition storing data mounted read only? have you run out of inodes?09:28
sgo11ActionParsnip, I can ping mail servers. my partition is not full.09:28
sgo11ActionParsnip, I don't think my partition has any problems.09:28
isoCharsetI got two computers....on one echo $LANG = ca_ES.utf8 ..... on the other one echo $LANG = ca_ES.UTF-8...why is that slightly different?09:28
njsgisoCharset: both utf8 and UTF-8 are ok09:29
njsgit's something in glibc, I think. you can ask it to generate utf8 or UTF-8, which is the same09:29
isoCharsetbut they mount the device differently....one characters are well read....on the other one they are'nt09:29
sgo11ActionParsnip, since evolution is just refreshing folders all the time. I kill -9 it many times and disabled mail accounts and only left one.09:29
isoCharsetand command used to mount is exactly the same09:29
ActionParsnipsgo11: if you run:  df -i   have you ran out of inodes?09:30
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njsgisoCharset: and the options shown by "mount" are the same, too?09:31
njsgisoCharset: and I thought I understood a bit of this charset mapping thing, apparently I don't09:32
isoCharsetin one mount more info is given than in the other one....but nothing as for charset or codepage09:34
sgo11ActionParsnip, no. the output looks good. I don't think my partition has any problems. The problem is caused by evolution bug. I think I need to clean its cache somehow. let me describe my problem in more detail: I have 10 mail accounts. two mail servers are blocked by firewall today. evolution are refreshing INBOX forever. I killall -9 evolution many times and disabled 9 accounts and left only 1 account w09:34
sgo11hose mail server is good. but now, it's still refreshing forever.09:34
jnorhi running ubuntu in a VM with bridged adapter, I can ssh into the vm from my host but the vm has no internet (ubuntu server)09:38
ikoniajnor: check it's route out and it's dns resolution on the guest09:38
sgo11I don't know how to clean evolution's cache. this must be evolution's bug. I just want to workaround this issue. evolution must go crazy with its configuration and cache somehow.09:38
ikoniajnor: connection between the host and the guest is different to connection being forwarded from the guest to the host to the internet09:38
ikoniajnor: also what virtualization technology are you using09:38
jnorIm using virtualbox09:39
exalthttp://i.imgur.com/QogspvJ.png <-- why is my startpage turkish ?09:44
exaltim dutch ...09:44
lotuspsychjeexalt: are you sure you configged your keyboard and language to dutch?09:45
exaltdutch is applied systemwide09:46
lotuspsychjeexalt: did you updated your system and rebooted after?09:47
exaltyes09:47
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exaltfixed now09:48
jnorikonia http://pastebin.com/AzPbZ8QA09:49
ikoniajnor: I didn't ask for that, I asked for YOU to check your guests default route, and dns server settings as these are the most common problems09:50
jnorI have no clue what is wrong so if you catched anything holla09:51
ikoniajnor: actually CHECK what I told you to check09:52
Vialashi guys09:52
Vialascan anyome help me use NPM ?09:52
ikoniajnor: you wont have any idea what's wrong, until you CHECK what I told you to check09:52
jnorim not running any dns server my route seems right09:52
ikoniajnor: your guest will need to point at a dns server, look were it's point09:53
ikoniajnor: what is your default route09:53
lotuspsychje!info npm09:53
ubottunpm (source: npm): package manager for Node.js. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.4~dfsg-2 (raring), package size 334 kB, installed size 1092 kB09:53
lotuspsychjeVialas: best is to shoot your specific issue on it in chat09:53
jnordefault s09:54
ikoniajnor: what ?09:55
jnorthe route is in the pastebin09:57
sgo11anyway, I give up evolution. it just does not make any sense. my android mail app can receive imap emails without any problems. but evolution is just broken today. maybe it's time to switch back to thunderbird.09:57
ihreWhat is the best way to discover what is causing a high cpu wait time? I cant monitor top or iostat 24/7 ofcourse09:57
ikoniajnor: what is your default route of the guest, just answer the question, if you want help, if you don't want help, fine09:57
ikoniaihre: why do you think you have high cpu wait time ?09:58
ikoniaihre: you only monitor the machine when you have high wait time if you can't do it 24x709:58
anton_ehdoes it matter where you  make-install a tarball from on host computer?09:59
ikoniaanton_eh: yes, it must be where the make file is that holds the target "install"09:59
llutz!checkinstall | anton_eh you shouldn't use make install at all09:59
ubottuanton_eh you shouldn't use make install at all: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!09:59
ihreikonia: I've just installed Zabbix and added 1 host, which reports "Disk I/O is overloaded on CLIENT" every 10 mins, Disk I/O is a trigger connected to cpu iowait. I understand that state "D" in top is common for processes that are waiting for I/O. Top also reports a cpu wait of ~4%.10:01
ikoniaihre: normally you will find it the other way around, that cpu wait is caused by disk/io wait, not disk i/o wait caused by CPU10:02
malinatorihre: you can also try some kind of monitoring utils like cacti ... http://www.linuxscrew.com/2012/03/22/linux-monitoring-tools/10:02
llutzmalinator: zabbix IS a monitoring util10:03
ihremalinator: I've worked with Cacti, yet I wish to learn Zabbix. ikonia: you're right, I've told it in the wrong way. I'm trying to find all processes with top state D at the moment, like described on http://bencane.com/2012/08/06/troubleshooting-high-io-wait-in-linux/10:04
malinatorllutz: yes , its mentioned on link10:04
ihremalinator: problem is, all sorts of monitoring tools report the same problems, yet it can be difficult to pinpoint what the actual issue is.10:08
DeepBluei wanna extract daa and uif  files10:09
llutz!info daa2iso | DeepBlue see uif2iso too, cnvert into iso, extract, done10:11
ubottuDeepBlue see uif2iso too, cnvert into iso, extract, done: daa2iso (source: daa2iso): The DAA files (Direct Access Archive) to ISO converting tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.7e-1 (raring), package size 21 kB, installed size 84 kB10:11
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sunny_lei have an usb drive having fat filesystem, when i am mounting it is telling specify the file system type, but doing with -t option still it fails.10:22
ActionParsnipsunny_le: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS?10:23
sunny_leActionParsnip, i mistakenly removed it, when the data transfer was still going on.10:23
ActionParsnipsunny_le: then you may want to fsck the partition to make sure it is healthy10:24
sunny_leActionParsnip, will it work as the file system is FAT ?10:24
sunny_lebecause till i know it repairs only linux filesystem10:25
ActionParsnipsunny_le: yes as the definitions for FAT are open and known10:25
ActionParsnipsunny_le: there is fsck.vfat10:25
sunny_leActionParsnip, ok10:25
njsgsunny_le: fsck is a wrapper that calls the appropriate tool, if any10:27
njsgthe ones that work on linux filesystems still depend on the filesystem, say, fsck.ext310:27
geirhayou'll likely have to install an additional package to get fsck for fat10:27
njsgsame for hfsplus and hfs10:27
debfancan someone help me with an ntp problem?   my time is out ... I think it's called an 'offset'10:29
debfanit's out 4 hrs and I want to sync it with a server but I don't know how10:29
sunny_lenjsg, hoping to solve the prob now10:30
njsgdebfan: you need to run ntp-client or somehow force a simple "set to the remote date"10:30
debfannjsg: how?10:31
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debfanI have ntp and ntpdate installed10:31
njsgI mean, I am not sure if ntpd wouldn't do that automatically, maybe it does for large skews10:31
njsglet me see how is it handled here10:31
BrixSat:)10:31
ikonianjsg: you  can't sync a drift bigger then 300 seconds, so you'd need to use ntpdate to set the time in sync, then ntpd to keep it in sync10:31
debfanthe last thing i did is run ntpdate -s ntp.ubuntu.com10:32
debfanbut, nothing output10:32
ikonianjsg: sorry, that was meant for debfan10:32
njsgdebfan: ah, ntp-client uses ntpdate here10:32
njsgdebfan: the usual thing in UNIX is for commands to output nothing if they do what they are expected to do10:32
njsgdid the clock time change?10:32
debfanI have no idea what to do...  the problem is the display was showing UTC time - which was the wrong local time10:33
njsgdebfan: oh, -s sends output to syslog10:33
debfanso, I manually changed it and now it's out 4 hrs10:33
njsgmaybe try without the -s10:33
CatKillerdebfan: Use the timezone package instead10:33
njsgyou can also do -v for more verbosity10:33
CatKillerdebfan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime10:34
njsgwait, one thing is the timezone, the other is the clock sync10:34
debfancan you tell me which command to use then?10:34
njsgdo what CatKiller said, the clock sync will set the clock (in UTC terms) correctly10:34
ikoniadebfan: I've already told you, you'd need to use ntpdate to set the time as it's over 300 seconds, then use ntpd to keep it in sync10:34
CatKillerIt seems here that it's not that the clock was out of sync 4 hours, but that the clock was set 4 hours in the past/future to compensate for the timezone10:34
njsgdebfan: it should involve setting /etc/timezone and something else10:34
njsgah, /etc/localtime, too10:35
CatKillerThe link I pasted has all the info: GUI, command line, and also explains how to keep the time in sync10:35
debfanokay, slow down guys, please :)10:35
njsghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Using_the_Command_Line_.28unattended.29 <-- jeps, I guess the reconfigure sets /etc/localtime10:36
debfanthe time zone is set properly now...  I used... your how-to10:36
sunny_lenjsg, what command to use ?  i am using this but no good result sudo dosfsck -w -r -l -a -v -t /dev/sdc110:36
debfanI ran $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata10:36
debfanbut10:36
debfanwait10:37
debfanthink we're fixed now10:37
sunny_lenjsg, also tried fsck.vfat /dev/sdd1 but same results.10:37
debfanthanks, guys!10:38
CatKillersunny_le: What's the error message btw?10:39
debfanikonia, njsg, Cat*what?* ;-)  .. you guys rule!   it's good now, I think10:39
sunny_leCatKiller, bogus number of FAT structure, can't find a valid FAT filesystem10:39
CatKillersunny_le: What filesystem is supposed to be on sdd1?10:40
CatKillerFat32?10:40
sunny_levfat10:40
Uraganhi there!10:40
sunny_leyeah10:40
arusselI'm starting a java app that waits for input. I want it to keep running after I exit so I did: 'nohup java …   &' , but it still stops, any hint on what I'm doing wrong ?10:40
CatKillersunny_le: You could use "testdisk" to try and access the filesystem10:41
CatKillersudo apt-get install testdisk10:41
CatKillerthen "sudo testdisk /dev/sdd1"10:41
anhhungvenhi... wanna know how to install ubuntu on my smartphone?10:42
geirhaarussel: It won't get any input if you background it.10:42
sunny_leCatKiller, testdisk ?10:44
crocketI'm using chromium 28.0.x.10:44
geirhaarussel: Or maybe the issue is something else. The description is a bit vague so far.10:44
crocketWhen will I get a newer version of chromium?10:44
crocketI'm on ubuntu 13.0410:44
CatKillersunny_le: It's a utility designed to recover partitions but it can also read filesystems. Basically to see if testdisk can detect the filesystem in question10:44
geirhaarussel: "waits for input" from where? what does it do when it reaches end of input? "after I exit", exit what?10:45
arusselgeirha: I don't want it to have any input, I just want it to wait, but somehow, adding nohup makes it stop10:45
arusselgeirha: the user10:45
arusselexit the shell I used to run the command10:45
geirhaarussel: so it wants input from the terminal? You deprive it of the possibility of that. So then it's up to the app how it chooses to handle that.10:46
CatKillerOnce you run "testdisk" on your partition, select "proceed", choose "None" for partition type (sdd1 is already a partition, therefore non partitionned itself), then "Advanced", and there you should "see" your filesystem10:46
geirhaarussel: Perhaps you'll want to run it with screen or tmux instead.10:47
CatKillerI think with FAT32 you might be able to browse the files10:47
thinknowHi, why dosnt the software updater give me the chance to upgrade? I was waiting for bitcoin wallet to synch, and i got notification that i had to make a partial upgrade before i finish to upgrade to 13.04 (First 12.10. then 13.04 as i suppose you understand, i have 12.04, fresh install) Now when i check the software up to date, it just say its nothing, i have tried apt-get upgrade as well10:47
CatKillerotherwise you can create an image from the filesystem and then you could store this somewhere to fsck it10:47
sunny_leCatKiller, following what you said10:47
arusselgeirha: screen might be better10:48
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crocketWhy was /etc/skel/.bashrc not copied to ~/.bashrc when I created a new account in ubuntu setup?10:50
CatKillersunny_le: Some background on testdisk: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk10:50
geirhacrocket: You probably used useradd instead of adduser10:51
crocketgeirha, no10:52
crocketgeirha, ubuntu graphical setup wizard had a user registration step.10:52
crocketI created a user there.10:52
geirhaOh, then it should've copied skel. That's odd.10:52
geirhacrocket: It did create the homedirectory though?10:53
Ponch0hey room, how do I gcc and g++ to my path environment, or if it's possible, how do I install it so it's automatically added?10:54
Ponch0add*10:55
arusselgeirha: any idea how to run a command in screen from a script ?10:55
crocketgeirha, yes10:55
crocketgeirha, .profile was copied.10:55
crocket.bashrc wasn't copied.10:55
crockethmm10:55
crocketI could have removed .bashrc by accident, so I'll go check another ubuntu installation tomorrow morning.10:55
geirhaarussel: screen -S nameofscreen -d -m java foo.bar10:56
arusselgeirha: thanks10:58
sunny_leCatKiller, all that info was really useful :)11:01
rapidhi all , got this in console - nedd help what to do now ....xubuntu 13.10 beta 64bit....Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:02
rapidcan someone help please11:02
rapidmust tell you , that i used linux since a half year.....so my known is like a beginner...11:04
Cute-PianistAhoy hoy11:05
Ben64rapid: 13.10 support in #ubuntu+1 until release11:05
ikoniarapid: if you are new to linux, why are you not using the stable release until you get better11:05
arusselgeirha: reading the man page, I would expect: 'screen -S foo -d -m ls' and then screen -list to show me foo as a session, but it just says no socket found. Shouldn't it start a new screen session and run 'ls' in it ?11:05
Cute-PianistBoy it's quite in here11:06
rapidikonia - its because i hope im right with the newest one11:06
Ponch0what is build-essential and do I need it?11:07
kostkon!info build-essential11:07
ubottubuild-essential (source: build-essential): Informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.6ubuntu4 (raring), package size 5 kB, installed size 37 kB11:07
Ponch0ah thank u11:09
arusselgeirha: got it, it does close the screen session when the command ends, which is not my case. Thanks again for your help11:09
u3 i cant get any sound in totem movie player11:11
ActionParsnipu3: do you get sound in other apps?11:11
Dai_1987_u3: use VLC11:11
Dr_Willissound works otherwise? does the video play with sound in other players u3 ?11:11
ActionParsnipu3: also, what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:12
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ActionParsnipDai_1987: if there is no sound in the system, it is irrelevant of the player11:12
sunny_leCatKiller, i got the details of the pendrive11:13
sunny_lehow can i copy all those contents ?11:13
u3yes i get soind in other apes11:13
ActionParsnipapes...hahaha11:13
ActionParsnipu3: ok thats a good start, what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue11:13
Dai_1987I should think so, apes aren;t known for their silence11:13
u3?11:13
ActionParsnipu3: run the command in a terminal and give the output11:14
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u3run what command11:15
ActionParsnipu3: cat /etc/issue11:15
u3thanks11:15
Dr_WillisSort of makes it hard to help if they keep leaveing. ;)11:16
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sunny_leCatKiller, successfully done thank you :)11:19
kryptohow can we upgrade kernel modules and package with out using apt,i have generated .deb packages from source11:20
ActionParsnipkrypto: you will need to use dkms11:21
Dr_Willis!dkms11:21
ubottuDKMS is Dynamic Kernel Module Support. See https://launchpad.net/dkms for more.11:21
Dr_Willisif you made a .deb err.. dont you like need to use apt/dpkg/gdebi/whatever to install the .deb   or am i missing somtning here11:22
arusselwasn't the all point of .deb to be installed with dpkg ?11:25
kryptousing dpkg will it upgrade current version with out removing it11:26
kryptoapt is having an old version11:26
Dr_Willisi think you may need to clarify exctly what you are doing.  I sence some details are missing  here.11:29
ActionParsnipkrypto: what are you updating exactly?11:29
DeepBluei downloaded the poweriso linux version package from the poweriso site ,but i don't no how 2 install  it11:32
Dr_Williswhats poweriso? whats the exact file name?11:32
DeepBlueDr_Willis: poweriso-1.3.tar.gz11:34
Dr_Willisso its an archive you extract and look at whats in it.. see if it has some docs included. or if the web site has some instll docs11:34
Dr_Willisextract and run the binary in the extracted folder, is commonplace11:35
ActionParsnipDeepBlue: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue11:35
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kaddihi11:36
ActionParsnipDeepBlue: and what are you wanting to use poweriso for? There are plenty of packages to do poweriso stuff11:36
DeepBlueActionParsnip: Linux Mint 15 Olivia \n \l11:36
ActionParsnipDeepBlue: not suppported here11:36
ActionParsnip!mint | DeepBlue11:36
ubottuDeepBlue: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org11:36
kaddihas anybody here installed ubuntu on a samsung ativ book 9? (940x3g). Is it safe to do so or can it brick the machine? How well does linux run on it?11:36
DeepBlueActionParsnip: i wanna extract daa and uif files11:37
ActionParsnipDeepBlue: your distribution is not supported in this channel or any of the ubuntu support channels11:37
Dr_Willisplus youve allredy basically been told what to do. :) extract the archive run the binaries in it. (or read its readme files in the archive)11:38
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Dr_Willisi wonder when the last time poweriso for linux was even updated..  so many of these companies come out with linux versions of their apps.. then never update them11:38
* James_WB shrugs 11:39
James_WBlinux has a pretty low market share11:39
ActionParsnipJames_WB: so?11:40
Dr_Willismow $$ because thers so many free apps that do the jobs these companies want to charge you for. ;)11:40
Dr_Willislow money from linux users. ;)11:40
James_WB^^^11:40
James_WBor at least not enough to make it worthwhile11:41
DeepBlueDr_Willis: i already have  but it asks for applications to open it11:41
ActionParsnipyet INtel and Nvidia and HP have supported Linux for years11:41
Dr_WillisI still find k3b beats most of the  burning apps that you 'pay' for on windows.11:41
ActionParsnipweird, despite having 'low market share'11:41
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: you use CDs?11:41
Dr_WillisDeepBlue:  use the shell, dont double click.  run the binaries.. or read the docs if it has any11:41
James_WBhey we are talking about power iso and not hardware :p11:41
Dr_WillisActionParsnip:  i got a stack here i must have bought 3 years ago.11:42
ActionParsnipJames_WB: its still drivers, which are software11:42
Dr_Willishavent gone through the stack of 100 in 3 yers. :)11:42
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: not used even a USB drive outside of OS installs11:42
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: SFTP baby11:42
Dr_WillisTempted to remove the cd/dvd/drive from  my other pc for more HD bays.11:42
James_WBi havnt ever used power iso ..11:42
Dr_WillisI do think i burnt some music cd's for an friends old car a few months back. ;)11:43
Uraganhi there! can help? i have ubuntu 12.04 and on load see error "hd0 no on the disk" and then BusyBox  whith initramfs...  what to do?11:43
kryptoActionParsnip Dr_Willis i have openvswitch version 1.4 running which lacks some features,i want to upgrade but ubuntu repo doesn't have this,so i generated .deb from latest source.Now i want my current version to be upgraded with out removing existing version11:43
Dr_WillisUragan:  you sure it says 'hd0' ?11:43
ActionParsnipThere is mounty for Linux too, or just use 'mount' to do it manually11:43
Uraganyes..  HD011:45
Uraganyou mean mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ?11:45
Dr_Willisactually grub uses the term HD# i think.11:45
Dr_WillisId have to say try that boot-repair tool for starters. it fixs most issues people seem to have.11:46
Dr_Willis!fix-grub11:46
Dr_Willis!fixgrub11:47
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub211:47
Uraganfixgrub - not found11:47
Dr_Willisread what the bot said....11:48
crocketHow do I get a new version of chromium without PPA?11:48
crocketchromium is already too old11:48
Dr_Willisthe urls it gave 0 detail how to fix the grub using the boot-repair tools11:48
ActionParsnipcrocket: what is in the new version you need?11:48
Dr_Williscrocket:  compile from source perhaps?11:48
HulahoopSo, hi everyone11:48
crocketActionParsnip, sourcemap support11:49
crocketIt's old11:49
Dr_Williseasier to use a ppa. ;)11:49
ActionParsnipcrocket: why are you averse to the PPA?11:49
crocketchromium 28.0.x doesn't recognize //# sourceMappingURL.11:49
KettleCooI'm on Ubuntu server 12.04, and I want to install an older version of VSFTPD (apt-get install renders a newer version than what I want) - here's the older version: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ppa/+build/2976214 - how do I install that?11:49
crocketActionParsnip, chromium should be maintained up to date by ubuntu.11:49
ActionParsnipcrocket: its not a rolling-release distro, so no, it won't be bang up to date11:50
Dr_Willis!backports11:50
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging11:50
ActionParsnipcrocket: https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop/+archive/chromium-dev   compiled 25 weeks ago11:50
Ben64KettleCoo: why older? its important to keep ftp servers updated, they're attacked a lot11:50
ActionParsnipcrocket: although 28 is in raring universe11:51
Dr_Willis25 weeks! thats way to old.11:51
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: if its not the version from next month which the devs havent even made, it's too old11:51
Dr_WillisI want the version from 2019!11:51
loaHello11:51
Ponch0hello room, I just made an .sh file executable to install a program, but when I double click it, it opens it in gedit and freezes?11:52
ActionParsnipPonch0: the file extension means nothing in Linux11:53
loaI have strange problem, my ubuntu is working 24/7 and sometimes when i am not near computer it going to idle and stop responding on commands from keyboard and mouse11:53
Dr_WillisPonch0:  dont double click it.. unless you want to make a .desktop file to launch it..11:53
ActionParsnipPonch0: did you right click the file and tell it to run in a terminal in the file properties11:53
Dr_Willisthen you run the launcher11:53
loaand looks like it just halts (11:53
loasomebody had such issue?11:53
Ponch0Ooooohh ok.11:53
KettleCooBen64: There's some sort of bug, "libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel", this is a desperate resort to try and see if an older version could actually work.11:53
Ponch0thank you.11:54
ActionParsnipPonch0: this isn't windows, the '.sh' file does nothing but look messy11:54
Ben64KettleCoo: unlikely to be a bug11:54
fishcookeri've ubuntu box server with xserver with touch screen.. how to detect the touchscreen precisely11:55
KettleCooBen64: From the numerous threads I've found, especially the ones most up to date, seems to indicate it could be a bug but I'm not sure11:55
KettleCooBen64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1937131&page=211:56
KettleCoo(last comment is the last trace I could find of this issue)11:56
Ponch0ActionParsnip: ok ok, easy I was able to run it from the terminal by typing sh file.sh11:56
Ben64KettleCoo: you use the whole mysql thing?11:57
ActionParsnipPonch0: if you right click the file, you can tick a box to tell the OS to run it in a terminal11:58
Ponch0Didn't see it but thank you anyway11:58
KettleCooBen64: Yeah I use auth pam_mysql.so for my virtual users. And pwdfile for one local user. It works if I use only one of the auth methods, but whenever both are activated this error is returned to the ftp client.11:59
KettleCooKettleCoo: libpam-ldap is installed as well (many suggest this to be a fix but it seems to make no difference)11:59
fishcookeri've ubuntu box server with xserver with touch screen.. how to detect the touchscreen accurately?11:59
Ben64switch to sftp or proftpd? : /12:00
ActionParsnipBen64: anything but ftp12:00
Ben64!patience | fishcooker12:00
ubottufishcooker: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/12:00
ActionParsnipfishcooker: udev should pick it up, or you can add rules to make it detect properly if it doesnt12:00
Uraganubottu good article...but how cat i call this grub menu during startup?12:00
ubottuUragan: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:00
Uragansheet )12:01
Uraganhow can i call  Grub menu on startup ?12:01
Ben64mash the left shift key12:01
vijayaI am using openpli-oe-core for settopbox applications, to build an image for target arm I have to use this command, MACHINE=<....> make image, but how to know which machine name I have to  use to build image for arm???12:01
ihreUragan: keep holding shift during boot12:01
ihrejust after POST i'd say12:02
Uraganihre - it hepls!12:03
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evilCHi, I have found a bug stopping ubuntu/kubuntu working with multi-monitors - anyone about who can maybe help?12:07
Marleneehow can i tunnel some app via different ssh server on my ssh server ?12:08
ubuntuxfce1304hi someone knows how to Make The "OK" in "[ OK ]" green pls ? <- at startup of ubuntu xfce 13.04. it is in lsb-base-logging.sh at the begining of log_end_msg () {  thanks :)12:11
ubuntuxfce1304if [ "$1" -eq 0 ]; then12:13
ubuntuxfce1304echo "[ OK ]"12:13
ActionParsnipubuntuxfce1304: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=153703   maybe12:13
ubuntuxfce1304ok i'm going to take a look thx :)12:14
universalany libreoffice calc channel ?12:14
ActionParsnipuniversal: #libreoffice will cover it, also here if its under ubuntu12:14
KettleCooI've installed libpam-ldap but yet I'm missing /lib/security/pam_ldap.so12:15
universalActionParsnip: yes its under ubuntu....simple calculation showing error 512. calculation - [{(120*3)+(145*9)}/12]12:16
San1tyHey guys, I have a bit of trouble understanding the diff tool. So I executed diff and found out the differences between my current file and another file. I'd like to patch those differences in, how do I do that?12:16
booosssI'm looking to dual boot ubuntu alongside win8 on my desktop, should i just use the install alongside option or manually create a partition?12:16
lotuspsychje!dualboot | booosss12:17
ubottubooosss: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot12:17
lotuspsychjebooosss: but i would reccomend ubuntu as single boot whole hd of course :p12:17
ActionParsnipuniversal: why the brackets and braces? aren't paenthesis the only thing needed12:18
Marleneehow can i tunnel app on my ssh server via another ssh server ?12:18
booosssI have to have windows installed though :( I need to use it12:18
wizard_Ai am able to ssh into my server, but not scp?12:18
jribwizard_A: pastebin12:18
Marleneewizard_A : use sftp protocol12:19
lotuspsychjebooosss: there are many alternatives for replacing win these days mate12:19
ActionParsnipwizard_A: does it affect all users SSHing to the server?12:19
booosssYeah, I have to run visual studio though so its just easier i feel12:21
wizard_Athis is the log: http://pastebin.com/ESNVjgq412:21
wizard_AActionParsnip: how do i confirm that?12:22
lotuspsychjebooosss: i think you can run visual studio on playonlinux, but not sure12:22
mika__Hello again im here now with my ubuntu and yes, i did do sudo gedit, but still if i look the .Xauthority files there is my username not root:root. so what i can do now?12:22
booossshmm, ill check that out thanks!12:22
ActionParsnipwizard_A: log in via SSH as another user, then also try SCP12:23
alsamihi guys12:23
mika__so my original problem is that at GUI it ask login passwd and it doesn't work12:23
universalActionParsnip: well, two brackets are needed for sure for priority calculation 1st (120*3) & (145*9) and then sum of both results as {(120*3)+(145*9)} divided by 12, now if I use only small brackets as ((120*3)+(145*9))/12 then result is just fine, thing is that is there any bug in libre office which returns error multiple types of brackets are used in a single cell calculation12:23
mika__and at CLI i can use my passwd without any problem12:23
lotuspsychjebooosss: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=89212:24
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ActionParsnipuniversal: just installing libreoffice to test12:24
alsamiI have xubuntu and i want to change my ip12:24
templerhi there I have an old dell inspirion 1300 laptop and it is running ubuntu 9.10, however I am trying to upgrade it to xubuntu 12.04 for better flash updates etc as this laptop is for my mum. I am experienced using and setting up ubuntu but after I try the live CD and all works and as soon as the installer is running for a minute I get a console/black screen with output info where it hangs/crashes... cannot get around this... anyone have advice?12:24
ActionParsnipmika__: chown your entire home to your user using root recovery mode12:24
PaowZ_any udev pro over here ?12:24
alsamii used tor but it changed the firefox ip12:24
ActionParsniptempler: what GPU does it use?12:25
universalActionParsnip: what ? if you are on ubuntu then it comes bundled12:25
mika__ActionParsnip: ok wait.12:25
alsamii want to change the desktop ip12:25
cfhowletttempler, you might consider xubuntu or lubuntu as they are optimized for older / lower tech devices such as yours12:25
ActionParsnipalsami: your IP is set by your provider, you can use a proxy server to send data through12:25
templerthink its the an integragted intel one so no real dedicated one12:25
ActionParsnipuniversal: I removed it, its completely optional12:25
Marleneeany tools built in ubuntu to do tunneling some app via ssh server on diffrenet ssh server12:25
lotuspsychjePaowZ_: better ask your specific issue maybe12:25
universalhmm12:25
templerit is xubuntu i am trying to install12:25
ActionParsnipMarlenee: you can use ssh to setup an SSH tunnel12:26
ActionParsnip!nomodeset | templer12:26
ubottutempler: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter12:26
templercheers ubottu12:26
cfhowletttempler, better to keep your queries to one channel at a time to reduce confusion12:27
ActionParsnipuniversal: as it isnt a key dep of the core OS you can remove LibreOffice with zero adverse affects12:27
PaowZ_I'm trying to control the way udev populates /dev for a special device. I mean, I have a barcode reader which appears as a HID appliance in /dev. The thing is an event handler is attached to this device and every inputs are seen as keyboard inputs which, of course, I don't want..12:27
mika__ActionParsnip: do i have to now restart OS? because i did chown -R username:username homedir/12:27
Marleneeany tutorial to do tunnel on ubuntu12:27
ActionParsnipmika__: should be good to go12:27
templeryes np12:27
universalActionParsnip: thats good :), so if you have uninstalled libreoffice, which office application do you use ?12:28
ActionParsnipMarlenee: lots, online12:28
mika__ActionParsnip: well it didn't let me in :D12:28
ActionParsnipuniversal: none, its a system I use for servering, so it doesnt need it12:28
ActionParsnipuniversal: not every system with Ubuntu NEEDS libreoffice12:28
ActionParsnipuniversal: does it?12:28
MarleneeActionParsnip : i talk about tunnel from ssh server to another ssh server12:28
ActionParsnipMarlenee: that's fine too12:29
universalActionParsnip: yea right, but what if thats the only system you use and you come across office docs ?12:30
ActionParsnipMarlenee: I use:  ssh -L 2222:lan.ip.goes.here:3128 name@my.an.ip.here12:30
ActionParsnipMarlenee: sets up a port 2222 on localhost which connects to 3128 on my server side, for squid proxying12:30
ActionParsnipuniversal: I dont do office productivity on my systems. I browse the web and stream media12:31
ActionParsnipuniversal: i do enough office crap at work12:31
universaloffice crap, lol gud12:31
PaowZ_no udev user, then..12:32
ActionParsnipuniversal: i just did:    =sum(((123*3)+(145*9))/12)    and got 468.7512:32
universalActionParsnip: thats wronng12:32
lotuspsychjePaowZ_: re-ask once in a while, other times might give you more luck?12:33
mika__ActionParsnip: well..hmm i try to restart this os now... let's see home should be all mine now but still i can't login. so see ya soon12:33
PaowZ_lotuspsychje: don't think so.. my need is not really common..12:33
mika__ActionParsnip: btw. im using now irssi :D i need to learn this well too..12:33
universalActionParsnip: answer shuld be 138.xx12:33
ActionParsnipuniversal: 163.7512:34
geirhaActionParsnip, universal: shouldn't this suffice?  =(123*3 + 145*9)/1212:34
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universalActionParsnip: remove the 3rd parenthesis in the starting and the end12:34
ActionParsnipoops12:34
ActionParsnipyeah 138.7512:34
jony_easyriderbuu, hello12:35
tiptopfleahi12:35
jony_easyriderbuu, do you remember about my problem from yesterday? :)12:35
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tiptopfleano O.o12:36
universalgeirha: yes but the thing is why is {(120*3)+(145*9)}/12 showing error 512 ? ActionParsnip12:36
lotuspsychjePaowZ_: just joined the #udev channel, maybe thats any use to you?12:37
ActionParsnipuniversal: =sum((120*3)+145*9) gives 1665 as expected12:37
lotuspsychjePaowZ_: oh you are already there nvm :p12:37
tiptopfleaI am Brazilian12:38
ActionParsnipuniversal:  =sum(((120*3)+145*9)/12)   is right :)12:38
universalActionParsnip: why are you writing sum there ?12:38
ActionParsnipuniversal: habit12:38
lotuspsychje!br | tiptopflea12:38
ubottutiptopflea: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.12:38
universalkk12:38
mika__ActionParsnip: im back. Yep, doesn't wanna let me in. All files (hidden too) have my username : and group12:38
tiptopflea#ubuntu-pt12:39
moodhi all12:39
lotuspsychjemood: welcome mate, what can we do for you?12:39
moodI ve aproblem with ubuntu 12.04 with ATI drivers12:40
universalActionParsnip: again, whats wrong braces ? coz its simple maths - 1st it will solve parenthesis coz its inside braces and then divide the sum by 12, but its returning error 512 ?12:40
lotuspsychjemood: can you describe your problems?12:40
ActionParsnipuniversal: absolutely, no idea why though. Could be a bug12:40
universalwrong with braces12:40
mika__but if there is other gurus here too who could help me. i can see that ActionParsnip has hands full here :)12:40
hogyzBACKTRACK12:40
ActionParsnipuniversal: I'd ask in #libreoffice12:40
ActionParsniphogyz: what of it?12:40
lotuspsychje!bt | hogyz12:40
PaowZ_lotuspsychje: yep.. and they give folks a chance..12:41
lotuspsychje!backtrack | hogyz12:41
ubottuhogyz: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (now end of life - see kali-linux)12:41
PaowZ_they must be hibernating or something.;12:41
moodmy ubuntu converted today to 2D itself .. by searching I found my ATI card not present in Ubuntu12:41
PaowZ_*they don't give12:41
universalActionParsnip: yea please, coz it created a big question mark on my 30 years of mathematics, lol12:42
lotuspsychjePaowZ_: udev if some different then what the developing guys do i presume?12:42
lotuspsychjemood: did you check your 'additional drivers' if some other drivers are listed?12:43
ActionParsnipuniversal: join the channel, ask there12:43
ActionParsnipmood: which ATI GPU are you using?12:43
universalActionParsnip: lol, I thought you were gonna ask in that channel12:44
moodyes & nothing listed12:44
ActionParsnipuniversal: why, you can do that12:44
PaowZ_lotuspsychje: sorry, I didn't understand :D this chan is not only for developers if it's your question..12:44
lotuspsychjePaowZ_: no just tought maybe the dev chat could help you, if it does the same as udev...but here stops my knowledge :p12:45
moodAMD M82XT 256MB12:45
lotuspsychjealways forget the developing chat name..12:45
universalActionParsnip: looks like everyone is busy in that channel or no one is interested there in troubleshooting12:45
moodlenovo thinkpad T40012:46
jony_easyriderbuu, I solved the issue! :)12:46
lotuspsychje!yay | jony_easyrider12:46
ubottujony_easyrider: Glad you made it! :-)12:46
lotuspsychjePaowZ_: #ubuntu-devel thats what i meant12:48
ActionParsnipuniversal: could report a bug as well12:48
PaowZ_lotuspsychje: okay.. I glance at it ;)12:49
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lotuspsychjemood: did you upgrade or clean install 12.04?12:51
damelHey all, anyone ever use 'msgunfmt' ?  it does not seem to do anything for me12:51
lotuspsychje!info msgunfmt12:51
ubottuPackage msgunfmt does not exist in raring12:51
mika__do i have to purge lightdm and ubuntu-desktop away to fix this :D lol.12:51
damelthat is weird..because the command works12:51
Lynx_Hi all! When installing Ubuntu, can I keep my Dell utility partition with hardware diagnostics tools as a boot option?12:52
damelor at least I have no error ;)12:52
moodclean install12:52
subby1how to create live usb of ububtu in win 712:52
Dai_1987subby1: google a program called unetbootin12:53
damelI even have the man files installed for msgunfmt12:53
damelvery weird12:53
damel!info poedit12:53
ubottupoedit (source: poedit): gettext catalog editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.4-1 (raring), package size 837 kB, installed size 3378 kB12:53
lotuspsychjemood: can you pastebin lshw -C video12:54
damelI think it was maybe installed by poedit...or its a function of gettext12:54
fishcookerthanks Ben64 i will.. sorry my connection is not good here12:56
Cuprum subby1_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot13:01
BluesKajHi folks13:01
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: hello mate13:02
hogyzwhy conky not work on my ubuntu 12.1013:02
BluesKajhey lotuspsychje, what's up?13:02
hogyzany body help me?13:02
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: all good mate tnx, doing a little support :p13:02
lotuspsychjehogyz: can you start it from terminal, see what errors it gives you?13:03
hogyzwhat command to run conky?13:03
hogyz./conky ??13:04
lotuspsychjehogyz: conky in terminal13:04
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subby1_can i install ubuntu in any other partition other than c: drive where i hv already installed win 713:05
ubuntuxfce1304hi :) hi someone knows how to Make The "OK" in "[ OK ]" green pls ? <- at startup of ubuntu xfce 13.04.13:06
Dai_1987subby1_: how are you installing it?13:06
lotuspsychjeubuntuxfce1304: are you in setup?13:06
ubuntuxfce1304no no13:06
ubuntuxfce1304when all is done ( OS installed )13:07
lotuspsychjesubby1_: when installing ubuntu it will ask you to install next to win713:07
universalActionParsnip: someone in libreoffice suggested a very good reason - brackets, braces and parenthesis or anything else is good on paper but they are not mathematical operators in computer language except simple parenthesis, rest all used for other things! sounds good and genuine reason to me13:07
ubuntuxfce1304at the startup like on Suse we see at the begining the Green "OK" and on Ubuntu 13.04 it is in WHite :(13:07
bennypr0fanethis is just totally ridiculous. Nautilus isn't letting me delete stuff from my SDcard, there just isn't any option in any of the menus13:08
lotuspsychjeubuntuxfce1304: you mean the lilo list loading with OK next to it?13:08
universalopensuse is faster or ubuntu ?13:08
bennypr0fanecontext menu, main menu, Del key doesn't work either13:08
ubuntuxfce1304universal, don't know13:08
subby1_i hv already installed win 7 on my c : drive which has a total of 68.1 gb but i want to install ubuntu as a dual boot and want to install it on other partiton apart frm c: drive13:09
ubuntuxfce1304lotuspsychje, yes :)13:09
bennypr0faneI feel a terrible rant coming up - must - suppress13:09
ubuntuxfce1304Starting xxxxxx [ OK ] <-- but i would like it in GREEN :)13:09
lotuspsychjeubuntuxfce1304: not sure if thats possible13:09
ubuntuxfce1304:'(13:09
ubuntuxfce1304ouiinnnn :'(13:10
subby1_Dai_1987: i hv already installed win 7 on my c : drive which has a total of 68.1 gb but i want to install ubuntu as a dual boot and want to install it on other partiton apart frm c: drive13:10
Dai_1987subby1_: do you have another partition?13:10
ubuntuxfce1304after consulting somes forums, it works for someone and doesn't work for others13:10
lotuspsychjebennypr0fane: try a reboot and stick sd card in after login13:11
samehhello iam sameh forme egypt cairo i install ubuntu 11 but i have problem in my driver any one can help me plz13:11
subby1_Dai_1987: yaa i hv 4 more partitions and two of them are 698gb and are completely empty13:11
bennypr0fane"move to trash can" is greyed out in context menu13:11
lotuspsychjesameh: ubuntu 11.04?13:11
ubuntuxfce1304lsb-base-logging.sh & init-functions <- seems to be inside but where, maybe someone had heard something about that.13:11
Dai_1987subby1_: well then when it asks you where to install, select one of the empty partitions13:11
bennypr0faneok, found it13:11
samehyes13:11
lotuspsychje!eol | sameh13:12
ubottusameh: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:12
bennypr0fanestupid microsd adapter locked itself when sliding it in13:12
Dai_1987subby1_: if you're a gamer though you'll need way more than 60GB for Windows13:12
subby1_Dai_1987: yaa but will i get a dual boot13:12
lotuspsychjesameh: download an ubuntu version from topic please13:12
repudiateCan we talk about anything besides Ubuntu?13:12
bennypr0fanesorry you had to witness this everyone13:12
lotuspsychje!ot | repudiate13:12
ubotturepudiate: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:12
Dai_1987subby1_: yes, that get set up too, just pay attention tot he installer, it isn't needlessly complicated13:12
bennypr0fanethanks lotuspsychje13:13
lotuspsychjebennypr0fane: no sweat!13:13
repudiatelotuspsychje: It was a joke.13:13
subby1_Dai_1987: ok thanks......now can u tell me how to create a live usb for the same purpose13:13
Cuprumsubby1_: But listen, 698GB just for Ubuntu may not be such a good idea. You can shrink some space from there and install Ubuntu in it.13:13
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samehok i will sir but i befor install ubuntu 13 and have problem in intel card vig13:13
Dai_1987subby1_: download the iso, download unetbootin, use unetbootin to make a bootable USB from the ISO13:14
lotuspsychjesameh: try 13.04 it will work for sure13:14
samehok i have problem in intel driver13:14
Dai_1987subby1_: make sure your pc will boot from usb13:14
samehno no  no  no i try it13:14
lotuspsychjesameh: intel wifi driver?13:14
subby1_Cuprum: ok i ll keep dat in mind.......13:14
samehmack problem in intel driver13:15
subby1_Dai_1987: ok thanks ......13:15
samehno vag13:15
samehdriver intel vag13:16
CuprumDai_1987: I think it would be better  subby1_  shrinks 698GB partition to a less amount and then install Ubuntu in the smaller partition.... Else 698GB just for Ubuntu?? What do you think?13:16
Dai_1987Cuprum: totally agree, I normally set linux partitions at 100GB and that's probably overkill13:17
lotuspsychjesameh: lol you mean vga driver?13:17
samehi have min laptop is samsung s100np13:17
samehyes13:17
samehvga driver13:17
lotuspsychjesameh: if 13.04 is too high for your intel card, try xubuntu or lubuntu13:17
samehso now i install 11 ubuntu13:18
samehand i have problem in vga driver13:18
samehi hat win 7 and win 813:18
subby1_Dai_1987: On second thought .... wat if i want to install ubuntu on my c: drive where i hv already installed win 7 and the total space is 68.1 gb and i hv used 25.9gb13:18
lotuspsychjesameh: ubuntu 11.04 has been removed, you need to install another version13:18
Dai_1987subby1_: ubuntu needs to be on its own partition13:18
samehopssssss  do u have skybe sir13:19
subby1_Dai_1987: ya but cant i shrink the partition of win 7 and then install it???13:19
philinuxsubby1_: you need to defrag twice and use windows to shrink it's partition to create some space13:19
Dai_1987windows wont shrink the active partition13:20
subby1_Dai_1987: ohh kk.....13:20
philinuxIt did on this laptop - win 713:20
philinuxIf you dont use win 7 to shrink it you asking for trouble13:20
subby1_philinux: k...13:21
Dai_1987philinux: ah, shrink works, grow doesn't13:21
philinuxDai_1987: indeed13:22
Dai_1987subby1_: just use some of the free space, not all of it13:22
philinuxnever tried grow13:22
Dai_1987philinux: anything under 250GB is way too small for Windows IMO though, apps are huge these days13:22
subby1_Dai_1987: u mean from c : drive??13:22
Dai_1987philinux: you can use gparted or similar to grow C:13:22
Dai_1987i've done that before, never needed to shrink it though13:23
Dai_1987subby1_: you can change the size of C: and use the resulting free space but you cant install ubuntu on C: without wiping out windows13:23
philinuxDai_1987: my win 7 partition is 70 gig. more than enough for me. Only use it for skygo and office13:24
subby1_Dai_1987: can u tell me how to change the size of c:13:24
Dai_1987my steam games take up about five times that13:24
Dai_1987subby1_: you can use windows disk management tool13:24
Dai_1987subby1_: im not in front of a windows machine so i can't help any more than that13:25
lotuspsychjesubby1_: try the ##windows channel for win support13:25
subby1_Dai_1987: k.... thanks...13:26
CuprumDai_1987: I also used Win Disk Management but I don't think I had to defrag it before I shrunk it. I may be wrong though....13:26
CuprumI did that ages ago..13:27
philinuxsubby1_: this is my 250 gig drive setup. http://imagebin.org/27318613:27
Dai_1987i've never shrunk a partition but i can see why defagging might be required13:27
philinuxDai_1987: if you dont it will only shrink so far13:27
Dai_1987makes sense13:27
philinuxthere's a minimum it will do cos some files cant bbe moved from "end of partition"13:28
Cuprumphilinux: Yeah I remember the minimum thingy..... better for subby1_ would be to go for the 698GB partition that he has, shrink it and leave the Win partition as it is. Win apps and softwares take huge spaces anyway...13:30
CuprumDai_1987: ^13:30
smodavnice13:30
Dai_1987yeah, he seemed reluctant to use that space13:31
philinuxCuprum: 70 gig enough for me like i said office and browser plus no crapware13:31
Eduard_MunteanuIs there a cmdline tool that emits a beep or any notification sound through the soundcard?13:32
Eduard_MunteanuI could use aplay, but maybe there's something better.13:32
xyzwhateverhi13:33
xyzwhateverwhere can I get help for the tcsh shell?13:33
smodavwhich is the best download manager?13:33
lotuspsychje!info tcsh13:33
ubottutcsh (source: tcsh): TENEX C Shell, an enhanced version of Berkeley csh. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.18.01-2 (raring), package size 507 kB, installed size 1370 kB13:33
Cuprumsmodav: I use wget and curl13:34
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lotuspsychjexyzwhatever: you might wanna ask your specific issue on it to channel?13:34
kostkonEduard_Munteanu, canberra-gtk-play13:35
smodavCuprum: I had issues with wget but hopping it will work since I changed os to pinguy13:35
kostkonEduard_Munteanu, give: man canberra-gtk-play  for the manual13:35
Eduard_Munteanukostkon: mm, is that a graphical tool? I want to trigger stuff from scripts.13:35
halfakHey guys.  Network Manager is constantly asking me for my wireless password.  Sadly top google results didn't help.  (e.g. http://askubuntu.com/questions/64903/network-manager-asks-for-wireless-password-continually)  Ideas?13:35
PiciEduard_Munteanu: either the beep package or print a \a via echo13:36
kostkonEduard_Munteanu, nope, cmd tool. uses the notification sound system of gnome13:36
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Eduard_MunteanuPici: beep uses the speaker, I'd like to use the soundcard. And \a requires a console.13:36
kostkonEduard_Munteanu, either give it the name of the event you want or the path of your own audio file.13:36
mika__ActionParsnip: btw i problem solved. i rm .Xauthority and .ICEauth*. now i can use my gui again :)13:38
Eduard_MunteanuOuch, one too many deps. This is a server-like install, I guess I should just grab a file from that package.13:38
kostkonEduard_Munteanu, then aplay or if the server comes with pulseaudio, which i doubt, then paplay13:38
Eduard_Munteanuaplay/ALSA is alright.13:39
kostkonEduard_Munteanu, aplay is fine13:40
Eduard_MunteanuHm, 'sox' looks good.13:40
Eduard_MunteanuIt can generate waveforms.13:40
Daniel_1hi, I have this strange ipv6 problem on an ubuntu server I'm running. It has a default route but can't send any packages. (ping tells me 'sendmsg: Network is down'). the only way I found to fix this is to manually delete and replace the default route.13:42
Daniel_1btw. this only happens since I use a network bridge (br0) instead of the real interface (eth0)13:44
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: sounds like someone is advertising wrong IPv6 routes13:44
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: is your box accepting RAs?13:45
Daniel_1Eduard_Munteanu:  the routes are configured using autoconf and are correct. let me show you the route: default via fe80::21d:e5ff:fe47:2845 dev br0  proto kernel  metric 1024  expires 1657sec mtu 1500 advmss 1440 hoplimit 6413:45
Daniel_1if I delete that route and manually re-add it using the exact values given in that line, it works13:45
xyzwhateverok i hope someone can help me or redirect me to a channel13:47
Daniel_1also I'm in a corporate network and can't use static addresses or routes :/13:47
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: what about the interfaces in the bridge?13:47
xyzwhateverin tcsh,    everything between ' '   is not interpreted by the shell.  I have a program that expects an input like this:       filename'[1..100]'13:47
xyzwhatevernow i want to replace a number with a variable:    e.g.     filename'[$a..100]'13:48
Daniel_1the bridge contains the ethernet interface (i.e. eth0) and vnet{0,1,2}13:48
xyzwhateverbut since the shell doesnt replace the value of the variable with a number because its in  ' '   the program gives me an error13:48
Daniel_1I connected KVM virtual machines to the bridge to expose them to the network.13:48
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: I think you may get packets leaving on the bridge and returning on one of the interfaces... what other routes do you have?13:48
Daniel_11 sec. I'll create a pastebin of ip -6 r13:49
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: did you disable RA accepting for the bridged interfaces? I'm not sure that happens by default.13:49
Eduard_MunteanuSecondly, if it's a server consider DHCPv6 PD.13:50
Eduard_MunteanuBut that's just as a sidenote.13:50
woonhello13:50
Eduard_Munteanuwoon: hi13:50
Uraganhi there!13:51
arctushi13:51
Daniel_1Eduard_Munteanu:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6213835/ is the output of ip -6 r13:51
Daniel_1don't I need to accept RAs to get routes via autoconf?13:52
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: yes, but for the bridge interface, not its components13:53
Daniel_1oh, I see what you mean. I'll check that.13:53
xyzwhateverdid anyone read my question? :'(13:54
tengopreguntashi, is there a way to determine where the repositories in a system are located, lets say , i want to find out the path for "/etc/apt/sources.list.d"13:55
tengopreguntasi remember it reding it in a conf file.13:56
DwarfIs there a way to do a headless install of ubuntu? (Not ubuntu server)13:57
impradeepyis there ney way to install vlc 2.1.0 on 13.04?13:58
xyzwhatever:'(13:58
Dwarfimpradeepy: apt-cache policy vlc13:58
xyzwhatever:'(13:59
impradeepylemme check13:59
geirhatengopreguntas: I believe that's hard-coded13:59
loahello, i have strange problem. when gdm starts i try to change keyboard layout and it is looks like, that when it show ru layout it actually uses for input en14:00
impradeepydid not work but thanku it provides better info14:01
loaand when it shows EN it actually uses for input RU layout14:01
IdleOneimpradeepy: you can use this PPA https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily but know that support is only available from the PPA maintainer14:01
impradeepyok14:01
DwarfThat's what it does, impradeepy, it shows which versions are available in your repositories14:01
xyzwhateverany channel about tcsh ??? :'(14:01
Daniel_1ok, I get "net.ipv6.conf.eth0.accept_ra = 1" from "sysctl net.ipv6.conf.eth0.accept_ra"14:01
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: btw, IP forwarding automatically disables RAs. So it might be the case you're disabling it exactly on the br0 and it's getting some other route as default.14:01
impradeepyyes :)well m  trying to install it through extracting .tar.xz but after ./configure make step is in infinite loops14:02
IdleOneimpradeepy: use the PPA and follow the instructions on the link I gave you. No need to compile.14:03
impradeepyok14:03
Christian87Hello14:04
Christian87I try to install ubuntu server 12.04 on a new server with 4 HDD in Raid 5 configuration. This is my partition table in the setup: http://i.imgur.com/u3KXjiV.png14:04
Daniel_1forwarding should be disabled. I get "net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 0"14:05
Christian87installation runs smoothly but the system dont boot14:05
Daniel_1same for the individual and the bridge interfaces14:05
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: alright, try disabling RAs for the bridge component interfaces.14:05
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: or just disable it globally and enable it on br0 specifically14:06
kaddihas anybody here installed ubuntu on a samsung ativ book 9? (940x3g). Is it safe to do so or can it brick the machine? How well does linux run on it?14:07
mydog2ohh.. ubuntu gurus!! anyone here with serious/medium ssh chops for port forwarding!14:07
mydog2i'm trying to do a test with a gearman process.. it talks to localhost:port X14:07
mydog2and i want to have the client on a separate machine listen to multiple servers running on different machines.14:08
mydog2so i need to port forward between the clients/master14:08
afsal_when I'm try to format my pendrive it shows Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system14:09
afsal_how to solve this ^^14:09
impradeepyppa verified n then apt-get update but did not install the latest version14:10
Eduard_Munteanumydog2: I'd suggest OpenVPN if it's anything serious / permanent.14:10
phanohanover_#zentyal14:11
afsal_when I'm try to format my pendrive it shows Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system14:11
afsal_how to solve this ^^14:11
impradeepywhere to copy output??14:11
Eduard_Munteanuafsal_: we've seen that the first time, wait a bit14:11
impradeepyplz give me a link14:11
impradeepyi ve to copy and paste the output of terminal14:12
IdleOneimpradeepy: did you run sudo apt-get upgrade?14:12
mydog2Eduard_Munteanu, - i'm specifically looking for an ssh solution...14:12
mydog2Eduard_Munteanu, - i'm envisioning an ultimate system with 100s of clients.. i can't be having openvpn remotely managed on all the systems..14:13
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impradeepyyes14:13
IdleOne!paste14:13
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:13
Eduard_Munteanumydog2: why do your clients have to use ssh?14:14
Eduard_Munteanumydog2: I'm not sure what your servers are, maybe you can explain a bit14:14
DwarfIs there a way to do a headless install of ubuntu? (Not ubuntu server)14:14
impradeepyi did14:14
impradeepyplz check it14:14
impradeepyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6213914/14:15
Eduard_MunteanuDwarf: headless as in a computer without a video card, or just automatic?14:15
Daniel_1ok, I disabled accept_ra for the individual interfaces. I guess now I need to wait for the server to get a new route on the bridge interface?14:15
mydog2Eduard_Munteanu,  - they don't..  but i'm going to need bidirectional communication. and i really don't want to have openvpn on each box, and then have to deal with configuring each, and then remotely managing/monitoring the open vpn app14:15
DwarfHeadless as in I only want to install the base system and I'll install the graphical part myself14:15
mydog2Eduard_Munteanu,  - portforwarding would be a simple solution14:16
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: remove the existing one to be safe14:16
Eduard_MunteanuDwarf: you can use debootstrap.14:16
Daniel_1the old route is gone. waiting for the server to get a new one...14:16
PiciDwarf: The minimal installer might be of interest to you14:16
Pici!minimal | Dwarf14:16
foofoobar_Hi. Does someone have a Dell XPS13? If yes, can you check which the default cpu temp is under normal load?14:17
ubottuDwarf: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:17
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: radvdump can watch for RAs, if you want to look at them.14:17
DwarfI'll go with the minimal one, it sounds like the debian netinstall14:17
impradeepy@idleone did u see it??14:17
Eduard_MunteanuDwarf: btw, AFAIK Ubuntu Server isn't much different, except for the kernel, but you can install the stock one.14:18
DwarfI'm not afraid to install X myself and whatnot, but the kernel is still a grey area for me14:18
Eduard_MunteanuOk. Mind it's just a package, I'm not suggesting compiling your own.14:19
IdleOneimpradeepy: The official VLC PPA currently only contains this latest release for Ubuntu 13.10. The previous release, 2.0.8 is provided for Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04.14:20
impradeepyi know but no other way?14:20
kennyhunterhi14:20
IdleOneimpradeepy: Looks like you will need to wait a little longer for 2.1.0 to be added to the PPA14:20
impradeepyok thanku14:21
impradeepyapt-get cache is realy good to know thanks :)14:21
IdleOneapt-cache14:21
foofoobar_Is it normal for a notebook to spin up the heater when I plug in the charger?14:22
impradeepyyes yes14:22
ThRiX_I just installed all the necessary components to get a PXE server, but after selecting the system to start from the client, is the word "loading".  Using Ubuntu 10.04.4 lts14:22
foofoobar_*spin up the fan14:22
ThRiX_I read in a guide:"This does not work for a PXE server running 10.04.1 LTS, nor does it work for clients trying to run 10.04.1 LTS. The client receives an offer from DHCP, gets the kernel, and fails while trying to load.  NOTE: It WILL work if you add required module names in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules (module names for your network adapters, like forcedeth or tulip)"14:22
ThRiX_and I added in "/ etc / initramfs-tools / modules" module "bnx2". But the result is not changed ...14:23
ThRiX_you have any advice?14:23
Eduard_Munteanufoofoobar_: they usually switch to performance profiles when on AC (e.g. maximum CPU frequency etc)14:23
Daniel_1Eduard_Munteanu:  thx a lot. that seems to solve the issue.14:23
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: cool14:23
foofoobar_Eduard_Munteanu, how can I prevent this? I dont want to hear the fan14:24
foofoobar_I'm under ubuntu 12.0414:24
foofoobar_I already installed tlp14:24
Eduard_MunteanuDaniel_1: have a look at DHCPv6 though, especially Prefix Delegation. If there's such a server, they can give you your own prefix, and if it's larger than /64 you can split it further to your VMs.14:24
Eduard_Munteanufoofoobar_: mm, I'm unsure.14:25
Eduard_MunteanuMaybe someone else knows.14:25
jhutchinsThRiX_: You might consider upgrading the server, but I think you also need to run mkinitramfs14:26
techGUYHello all. I have an LSI sym8751spe SCSI card, trying to get is working in Ubuntu 10.04. It show up in 'lspci' command, but drives do not show up. Why?14:26
Eduard_Munteanumydog2: why port forwarding? Are your servers behind a firewall?14:26
foofoobarEduard_Munteanu, I got a complete freeze, sorry.. Another thing I have to look into, but first the power thing14:27
foofoobarIs there a way to see which power profile is in use? Or to stop this?14:27
foofoobarI dont want to hear the fan when plugging in the AC14:27
jhutchinsfoofoobar: What's probably happening is that your power manager is set to increase the CPU speed when it's on line power instead of battery.  Change that setting in the power manager and it should behave normally.14:28
Eduard_Munteanufoofoobar: well the problem is it's not just one thing... it's an interaction between upower, ACPI, cpufreq, graphics drivers, and I'm unsure how distros handle this these days.14:28
Eduard_Munteanufoofoobar: I'd start searching the Ubuntu wiki for power management-related topics.14:29
foofoobarokay14:29
loacan't change plymouth theme, what i can check?14:29
Eduard_MunteanuOr google "AC power performance ubuntu", or something along those lines.14:29
foofoobarjhutchins, you are talking of a "power manager"? Is this a gui ?14:29
repudiateWill Ubuntu run significantly slower in VBox as a guest OS?14:29
loawant to set solar theme14:29
Daniel_1although the route looks exactly like the one I had before, the new one works. oh well, at least my problem is fixed now.14:29
loai used this command sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth14:29
loaand after it i use sudo update-initramfs -u14:30
Eduard_Munteanurepudiate: if you're going to use GNOME3, probably.14:30
Eduard_MunteanuGNOME Shell, more specifically.14:30
subby1Dan14:30
mydog2Eduard_Munteanu,  - they are.. and they'll be spread out across the 'net..14:30
repudiateEduard_Munteanu: What does GNOME offer exactly?14:31
Eduard_Munteanumydog2: normally you should just give them public IPs. Otherwise, yeah, you can do port forwarding, sure. I'm not sure what you're asking though?14:31
ThRiX_Thanks jhutchins14:31
SuperLagI have a desktop that I've made headless for the time being, as I'm using another machine as my primary. How do I make sure that processes that would normally have started when logging into the UI still start, even though I'm not logging in that way?14:32
mydog2Eduard_Munteanu,  - thanks.. i'll figure it out14:32
Eduard_Munteanurepudiate: the desktop environment.14:32
repudiateEduard_Munteanu: What does it offer that Unity doesn't?14:33
repudiateEduard_Munteanu: What does it offer that KDE doesn't?14:33
subby1I want to create a dual boot with ubuntu on my pc and I already have win 7 .....my disc space in c: is 68.1 gb and I hv used 29 gb14:33
Eduard_MunteanuSuperLag: configure your login manager to autologin, and perhaps configure xorg to use the 'dummy' driver if you don't have a video card at all.14:33
Eduard_Munteanurepudiate: oops, I forgot about Unity. I'm just saying everything involving 3D effects will likely be slow (unless you do VGA passthrough).14:34
gaussblurinchello! how about google drive on linux?14:35
Eduard_Munteanugaussblurinc: hi... what about it?14:35
repudiateEduard_Munteanu: What's a VGA passthrough exactly?14:35
Eduard_MunteanuYou should just ask directly.14:35
bjoswaldThere is no native client14:35
bjoswaldIf that's what you're asking14:36
hitsujiTMOmydog2: are you on about having all clients ssh to a single server which forwards the connection to their server?14:37
Eduard_Munteanurepudiate: if your hardware supports Intel VT-d / AMD IOMMU, you can give your guest OS full control over the video card, so it won't be using a slow, emulated one.14:37
gaussblurincbjoswald: yes, native client, uh :\14:37
Eduard_Munteanugaussblurinc: I think there might be a FUSE driver for it14:38
loacan you help me with plymouth? tried few manuals but can't changed theme14:38
repudiateEduard_Munteanu: How do I do that?14:38
loait is always shows Xubuntu 13.1014:38
loabut i have Ubuntu 13.10 =/14:38
lotuspsychje!13.10 | loa14:39
ubottuloa: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.14:39
loait is ok.14:39
Eduard_Munteanurepudiate: google for {VGA,PCI} passthrough and {KVM,Virtualbox}.14:39
loabut i think solution is plymouth, not ubuntu version.14:39
Eduard_Munteanurepudiate: or Xen, IIRC that supports it too14:40
gdosfor some reason my system wide language has been changed from en_US to en_UK and now i get funny little characters whenever i enter (or other) xfce-terminal - tried setxkbmap en and get error loading new keyboard description; what's happening is that every other char is a little box with ones and zeros. (...especially when displaying colors.)14:40
gordonjcpgdos: that's standard14:41
gdosthe little box with ones and zeros?14:41
gordonjcpgdos: you've hung about wwih no functional government, so we're taking the US back under UK government control14:41
impradeepyplease tell me how to install jupiter on 13.04?14:41
Eduard_MunteanuHehe.14:42
gdosyou can have my government i just want my fonts.14:42
foofoobarEduard_Munteanu, the strange thing is .. when I plug in the charger, the cpu temp does not increase, but a few seconds later the fan starts to spin14:42
foofoobarand the cpu temp still as before14:42
Eduard_Munteanufoofoobar: possibly, if it's still mostly idle.14:43
lnxslcknew ubuntu 13.10 brings support for apple wireless keyboard battery indicator, does anyone know the name of tha package that does this?14:45
hitsujiTMOfoofoobar: have you looked for options in the bios to control the fan?14:46
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lotuspsychjelnxslck: maybe the guys in #ubuntu+1 might know14:46
Eduard_MunteanuhitsujiTMO: more likely it's a cpufreq thing14:47
Eduard_MunteanuActually a power management thing as a whole.14:47
hitsujiTMOEduard_Munteanu: yes you are right, but some older laptops do have fan controls in the bios14:47
Eduard_MunteanuThe BIOS usually just provides ACPI states and frequency/voltage tables.14:48
Eduard_MunteanuHm.14:48
foofoobarhitsujiTMO, yes, there are no options :/14:50
lotuspsychjeimpradeepy: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/jupiter-light-weight-power-and-hardware-control-applet.html14:50
ArnoMoonenHi, I'm looking for an easy tool that I can run in a live environment to create a live USB thumb drive. Any suggestions?14:51
impradeepynot working14:51
lotuspsychjeArnoMoonen: ubuntu livedvd has usb startup disk creator14:51
impradeepybut thanku14:52
ArnoMoonenSomething like this: https://launchpad.net/liveusb - but I can't install this in my install using the PPA repo (no recent version available)14:52
impradeepyi found other working ppa14:52
franz__hi i need help, i create live usb, the machine forze I forced shutdown by pressing Power button, now usb is only read14:52
franz__how do I fix this_14:52
foofoobarEduard_Munteanu, I cant find any good links on this14:53
ArnoMoonenlotuspsychje thanks.. does that work if the source disc is the disc that the live environment is running from?14:53
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lotuspsychjeArnoMoonen: you have to download a new iso, with the livedvd and make startup disk to your usb stick14:54
franz__hi i need help, i create live usb, the machine froze I forced shutdown by pressing Power button, now usb is only read14:54
ArnoMoonenlotuspsychje That doesn't work in my use case. We've created a live DVD that students can use during a workshop, but we want to make it easy to clone them to a USB drive so that they can work with the software at home14:55
b0xerm14:55
ArnoMoonenlotuspsychje they usually don't have an internet connection and including an iso of the live environment on the live environment isn't really workable14:55
lotuspsychjeArnoMoonen: so your students will be getting the livedvd to their homes?14:57
hitsujiTMOArnoMoonen: from what I remember http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ allows you to create an image from live iso to USB that also gives you the option for persistent storage14:58
ArnoMoonenlotuspsychje not really. they will use a custom live image (DVD or USB) during the workshop and we'll be able to 'clone' this DVD/USB to their own USB thumb drive14:58
lotuspsychjeArnoMoonen: cant you download the iso on the workshop computer so they can make one?14:59
lotuspsychjeArnoMoonen: or try what hitsujiTMO suggested you15:00
ArnoMoonenUnfortunately we can not. Most of the time we don't even have access to the internet on those computers (the workshop is given across multiple institutes)15:00
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sasukeHi all, Can anyone tell me how to install gnome 3.10 in ubuntu 12.04. Is it possible to install gnome 3.1015:01
ArnoMoonenhitsujiTMO Afaik LiLi can't run on Ubuntu?15:01
sideshcan i know what is official name of ubuntu 12.0415:01
sasukesidesh, its precise15:01
lotuspsychje!12.04 | sidesh15:02
ubottusidesh: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120415:02
gdos13.10 comes out at the end of the month?15:02
hitsujiTMOArnoMoonen: hmm, not sure... but i'm sure theres an linux alternative15:02
lotuspsychje!13.10 | gdos15:02
ubottugdos: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.15:02
lnxslckgdos, on the 1715:02
gdosgot it.15:02
hitsujiTMOArnoMoonen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent15:02
ArnoMoonenhitsujiTMO Well, there was https://launchpad.net/liveusb but they don't have any recent versions15:02
sasukeis it possible to install gnome 3.10 in ubuntu 12.0415:03
techGUYHello all. I have an LSI sym8751spe SCSI card, trying to get is working in Ubuntu 10.04. The card shows up in 'lspci' command, but drives do not show up anywhere I looked. Why?15:03
gdosso how do i remove the little boxes of ones and zeros when displaying colors in xfce-terminal?15:03
ArnoMoonenI'll just see if I can somehow rebuild liveusb, even though I'm not familiar with that at all15:04
hitsujiTMOgdos: sounds like the font used does not have the chars needed... try changing the font15:05
lotuspsychjeArnoMoonen: how about making 1 liveUSB stick with ubuntu, and drag n drop the iso image togheter on it15:05
ActionParsniptechGUY: tried 12.04?15:05
lotuspsychjeArnoMoonen: not sure if it wont affect the install process15:06
gdoshitsujiTMO: recommend a good font viewer?15:06
ArnoMoonenlotuspsychje: that's a possible workaround. But that would almost double the size needed and it's cumbersome (we're planning updates)15:07
semitonesWhat's that command that ActionParsnip knows that fixes mouse problems upon resume by killing the mouse and starting it again?15:07
ActionParsnipsemitones: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 2; sudo modprobe psmouse15:07
techGUY@ActionParsnip: No I have not. Will give it a try. Thanks15:07
semitonesActionParsnip, thanks, it doesn't always happen, but when it does, now I'll be prepared.15:08
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hitsujiTMOgdos: not sure what you mean ...15:08
ActionParsnipsemitones: could script it15:08
semitonesthanks what I think I'll do. mousefix.sh15:08
ActionParsnipsemitones: and even have the OS run it autmatically when you resume :)15:08
lotuspsychjeArnoMoonen: wanna tell me more about your project in #ubuntu-offtopic?15:08
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gdoshitsujiTMO: if courier new or courier 10 pitch is missing chars to display colors (thats only when this happens) is there a viewer i can use to view all the fonts on my system?15:10
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semitonesActionParsnip, right now, it only messes up about 1 in 20 times I resume from sleep. I'm not sure what's special about that 1/20th time.15:11
ircdengnick15:15
hitsujiTMOgdos: ahh, soory, i missed the fact that it happened on colors specifically. can you provide a screen shot?15:16
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gdoshisujiTMO: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10092013-091312am.php15:17
hitsujiTMOok, that indeed does look like an invalid character15:18
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hitsujiTMOit may be caused by, as I originally suggested; missing characters in the font, but, more likely given that it's happening in the colours it could be an invalid terminal promt config15:21
gdoshitsujiTMO: in .bashrc ?15:26
geirhagdos: what does echo "$TERM" say?15:26
hitsujiTMOgdos: look at $PS115:26
geirhaI doubt aptsh cares about bash's prompt.15:27
hitsujiTMOgeirha: sorry your right didnt realise that aptsh was a shell15:27
pandarootwhy is that as mentioned in the debmirror wiki when i am doing sudo chmod -R 571 /home/UbuntuMirror i can't access the mirror but when i change the permissions to 777 it works15:29
ActionParsnipgdos: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue15:29
apattersIs there any reason to use the virtual terminals on ctrl+alt+f1-6, aside from getting X back up if it's not running?15:29
ircdengwhat is the valid email for register15:29
hitsujiTMOgdos: if its not that and not the font, then they're may be a mismatch between char encodings somewhere15:29
ircdengcould someone help me ?15:29
geirhapandaroot: Because you're not the owner of that dir, nor are you a member of the group that owns the dir. on a side note, never set 777 on a file or directory15:30
Dai_1987ircdeng: valid email for registering what?15:31
s1536273!rules15:31
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines15:31
ubuntuxfce1304hi :) if anyone have ideas to put the [ OK ] at the beginning of startup in GREEN Colour like in Suse.15:31
geirhaapatters: Very useful when you don't have X installed15:31
ircdengDai_1987: register the nickname15:32
Dai_1987ircdeng: it's supposed to be your email address, and then NickServ emails you instructions15:32
ActionParsnipubuntuxfce1304: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-50054.html15:32
hitsujiTMOircdeng: questions about registering a nick on freenode would be better handled in #freenode15:32
ActionParsnipubuntuxfce1304: seems to be in  /lib/lsb/init-functions15:33
Dai_1987ircdeng: I learned from http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration15:33
pandarootgeirha, so should i add myself to that group   ? what permission should i set ?15:33
ircdengDai_1987 i've tried two email address ,but the system tell me this :*******is not a valid email address.15:34
Dai_1987ircdeng: and you're typing /msg NickServ REGISTER <password> <youremail@example.com> ?15:34
apattersgeirha: Of course :) just wondering if there are any reasons that anyone prefers to use a vt instead of X even when they do have X15:34
geirhapandaroot: Depends on what type of access you want for the directory, but if you add your user to the group, then 770  will give the owner and the members of the group that owns it, full access, while other users will have no access15:34
ActionParsnipubuntuxfce1304: make a backup copy of the file before editting15:35
pandarootgeirha, i found out one mistake, instead of putting the ubuntu mirror under /home/ubuntu i have kept it inside /home/user/ubuntu.15:35
geirhapandaroot: odd place for it15:36
pandarootgeirha, moving back the contents to /home/ubuntu15:36
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geirhapandaroot: Also, don't do chmod -R 770; you don't want to change the execute bits for regular files15:38
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geirhathough I recon it's too late for that15:39
ubuntuxfce1304ActionParsnip, already done15:39
ircdengDai_1987 yeah ,i am typing  like that.15:40
ActionParsnipubuntuxfce1304: not something I've done, is it really worth the effort?15:40
Dai_1987ircdeng: then i have no idea why it wont work for you15:41
impradeepyplease help me to configure powertop15:41
buhmanplease help me to configure impradeepy15:41
pandarootgeirha, execute bits ? what does that mean ?15:41
impradeepyi mean tunables15:42
ubuntuxfce1304lsb-base-logging.sh must be modify and i have already made a copy of it, then modify it but doesn't work, thanks anyway. if someone have heard something about the " [ OK ] " to put it in Green colour highlight me thx :)15:43
ircdengDai_1987 thank u15:43
buhmanpandaroot: they're actually flags in st_mode; man 2 stat15:43
impradeepyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6214274/15:43
geirhapandaroot: determines if the file is executable or not. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions to learn how permissions work on unix and unix-like systems (like Ubuntu).15:43
pandarootok15:44
buhmanpandaroot: S_IX{USR,GRP,OTH} are the names of said flags/'bits'15:45
impradeepy@buhman please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214274/15:45
buhmanimpradeepy: I disagree15:45
pandarootgeirha, that's a good link15:45
pandarootbuhman, ok15:45
impradeepywhy?15:45
buhmannot interested15:46
buhman!bail15:46
impradeepyok15:46
bazhangbuhman, thats not helpful15:46
apatterssudo shutdown -P now15:46
xarac__did any one have installed openerp from source code in ubuntu?15:49
melhisedekshould performance of the Nvidia proprietary and unofficial drivers (ex g xorg-edgers PPA) be roughly the same?15:50
skinuxI'm curious, is Ubuntu for Android a complete OS (ROM), a complex app, or what?15:52
bazhangskinux, #ubuntu-touch for that15:52
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Trudkohi guys i order new VPS and they gave me only one user to log in root. I gues sI should create new user and maybe give him root rights?15:55
dariusc93Trudko: you may want to create new user away from  root for security purposes15:56
Trudkowhat do you mean by away? btw if I dont give him root rights i will just have to use  sudo everytime more or less i want to do something  right?15:56
ddsscmy ubuntu completely died on me. got some kernel bug(which i didn't write down). can't run anything in recovery mode all I get is a blank screen. what to do? WHAT TO DO?!15:57
ddsscubuntu 12.0 something15:57
ddsscit just died for no reason whatsoever, I didn't run anything special.15:58
ddsscand now I can't boot into anything..15:58
ArnoMoonenI figured I could just force the installation of LiveUSB, but that does not seem to work (it requires python2.5-gtk2, but I have a newer version, so dpkg won't install that)15:58
ddsscnot even console15:58
Ari-Yangddssc: maybe it was a kernel panic....15:59
ddsscAri-Yang, it stated "kernel bug" in the bsod15:59
ddsscim using win now..15:59
ArnoMoonenSo.. any other suggestions on how to create a live USB stick from a running live environment?15:59
Ari-Yangddssc: there is no such thing as BSOD on ubuntu afaik.... ddssc so you installed windows on the computer where ubuntu crashed on?16:00
ddsscAri-Yang,yes there is a bsod. BLACK screen of death. :p I have dual boot16:00
Ari-Yangddssc: ah.... well I'm not sure, I suggest doing research while you wait for somebody to get to you16:01
ddsscAri-Yang, looked somewhat like this : http://www.bhalash.com/archives/1354479282316:01
ddsscnot sure if it was a disk error, I rebooted immediately16:01
ddssc:/16:01
dariusc93ddssc: put in a livecd in and mount your partition and check the logs and see what happen16:02
daivykhi, I have installed eclipse + tomcat7 without a problem, but I am trying to create a Server from eclipse, I already have the Server Runtime set but when I select Tomcat 7.0 it seems that eclipse can't find the Runtime configure with Tomcat7, anyone know why? maybe some file permission? (i checked everything is fine)16:04
ddsscdaivyk, eclipse is aids. use IDEA if you must code java16:04
abradleyI have this in smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214345/  but I'm getting this error when I try to write to the share from windows 7: http://i.imgur.com/KNN3yOv.png16:05
daivykddssc: kkkk16:05
skinuxIs Unity more popular than regular Gnome?16:05
Ari-Yangskinux: not sure... why?16:08
XURLskinux: judging by what16:08
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Trudkoguys if i have error checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one do i need to instal l  build-essential checkinstall ?16:15
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hitsujiTMOskinux: considering unity is ubuntu specific, where gnome is used across a wide variety of distros then I'd say gnome would be more popular... but it really does depend on what you mean exactly by popular... its a very subjective16:15
hitsujiTMOquestion16:16
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BluesKajTrudko, yes you need build-essential if your'e compiling from source16:18
dellhey16:24
jmgkhi dell16:24
dellyo16:26
x0077BEOi oi. I have a question.16:27
x0077BEI have just built a program (hostapd) from source, and it built it in whatever directory it was in.16:27
x0077BEHow do I like... install it?16:28
x0077BEBecause when I install it from apt-get, it puts it in various places.16:28
x0077BE/sbin/, /etc/, etc.16:28
x0077BEBut when I build it it's just sitting there in the hostapd file.16:28
Tylertwox0077BE, were you having an issue with it being in various places?16:29
loax0077BE, you can do make install, but it is not ubuntu way16:29
x0077BENo, but I had to use a custom config.16:29
buhmanx0077BE: generally build systems will have an 'install' target or similar, but realize if you do this directly, the copied files will not be tracked by your package manager16:29
x0077BESo I can't use the binary from the repository.16:29
buhmanx0077BE: and modifying the source package wasn't an option why?16:30
Godmyhello, let's suppose I have a some Ubuntu 5 (Dapper Drake) on one computer, not functioning CD Rom (nor any CDRom elsewhere I can use), being unable to use the USB slot to boot (already tried creating livecd to USB - which works elsewhere but not on that computer) - but I can load the USB flash stick when I'm in the system: can I create there a "live partition"?16:30
x0077BEI'm not sure what that means.16:30
x0077BEbuhman: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd16:30
x0077BEI followed the instructions there.16:30
x0077BEIt worked fine.16:30
buhmanand?16:30
buhmanwhy do I care?16:30
Godmy(since I can access the "livecd" only via some preinstalled OS... I could of course try to connect there some hdd with liveCD... but that's too much work)16:31
x0077BEI just don't quite get what you mean by "modifying the source package"16:31
x0077BEI can build my own config and import it into the package manager?16:31
Godmy(and thank you in advance :) )16:31
buhmanGodmy: if you had space available on your target disk, you could simply chroot your installation media and continue with the installation that way16:32
buhmanx0077BE: I suggest you read up on how ubuntu packaging works.16:32
Godmyhm, I have to learn more about the procedure :)16:32
buhmanGodmy: you'll loop mount said installation media, mount api filesystems, then chroot(1)16:33
wylde!checkinstall | x0077BE16:33
ubottux0077BE: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!16:33
x0077BEubottu, Thanks.16:34
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:34
dellhey16:34
x0077BEOh. Then thanks wylde16:34
wyldenp16:34
Colemansup16:35
dellhello coleman16:35
dellmy name is dell16:35
Colemani love you dell help me shoot my source code into your network port16:35
dell;O16:36
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foofoobarHow to install latex without the gui ?16:42
Myrttifoofoobar: with apt-get?16:43
andromeduckrecently lost about half of my home dir due to a disk issue, recovered almost everything except I keep getting this when I try to use apt-get http://pastebin.com/M4EfQ8W316:43
andromeduckfoobArrr, install texlive?16:43
foofoobarMyrtti, I meant without the tex gui16:45
cariveriHi. can someone tell me how to set the networkmanagers values from the terminal? upping the interface leads to reload ips from those config values instead of ifconfiged ones.16:46
foofoobarandromeduck, okay, I thought this already installs the gui16:46
foofoobarthanks16:46
Myrttioh yeah, you can have a tex gui, totally forgot that such thing exists16:46
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raubDo you know how you can force a usb drive to be always mounted in a certain mountpoint using its uuid? Is there a way to always associate another usb device -- say a serial or wireless one -- with a /dev/something?16:48
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andromeduckcariveri, check out the ip command http://linux.die.net/man/8/ip16:48
RalliasIs there an easy way to configure my /etc/network/interfaces file from a bash script?16:51
andromeducknvm I just solved it16:56
veryhappyhi guys where can I use AES in my system16:57
ikoniaveryhappy: what do you mean, "where can you use it" ?16:58
veryhappyfor which purposes in Ubuntu can I use AES?16:59
ikoniait's an encyption standard, so you use it for encyption16:59
SolarisBoyAES is generally used in encryption16:59
veryhappythat's what I already know fortunately16:59
SolarisBoyso what do you mean?16:59
ikoniathen what are you asking ?17:00
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veryhappyI want to know what I can use this encryption for.17:00
ikoniaveryhappy: encypting things....anything you want17:01
SolarisBoyto protect sensitive data17:01
SolarisBoyyea17:01
raubveryhappy: find what you are trying to encrypt -- ldap, kerberos, ssh, pgp, etc -- and see if it supports that17:02
raubMy rule of thumb is to use the strongest encryption both parties can support17:03
hitsujiTMOveryhappy: you're probably using AES right now if you're using wifi ... Most modern wifi routers default to AES encryption17:03
ikoniamy rule of thumb is...if you don't know what it is/how to use it/what to encrypt, stop thinking about it17:03
dsbwhy does the kernel try to IP-Config during boot on an Ubuntu machine, even if there is no network configuration, or even network connected?  My system is looping with "IP-Config: ethX hardware address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx mtu 1500 DHCP RARP" endlessly during boot.17:04
veryhappyOK so I can use it to encrypt my emails? keyword NSA? or files/directories/partitions/hard disks/perhaps also CD ROMs/DVDs?17:04
SolarisBoyopenssl/openssh both support AES - we use it more often than we think17:04
ikonianot this NSA stuff again17:04
ikoniaveryhappy: if the encyption tool you are using supports it - you can use it to encypt anything, keep in mind it needs to be unencypted also17:05
Trudkoguys i have warning when istalling passanger(ruby gem) WARNING: Apache doesn't seem to be compiled with the 'prefork', 'worker' or 'event' MPM  We recommend you to abort this installer and to recompile Apache with either the 'prefork' or the 'worker' MPM. How to recompile it I have never done it17:05
raubdsb: using network manager?17:06
dsbNo17:06
dsbThis is a server.17:06
ikoniaTrudko: you don't need to recompile it, there is an apache prefork package17:06
dsbAnd it's right after the NIC driver is loaded.17:06
SolarisBoyTrudko: just install the prefork version17:06
raubTrudko: I think there are diff apache packages for that17:06
veryhappyikonia like you I'd like not to think about this NSA stuff again the NSA makes us think about privacy17:06
Trudkoso should I unstill existing apache and istall prefork one?!17:06
ikoniait really doesn't17:06
dsbWe had a power outage yesterday, and this server is doing this now.17:06
SolarisBoyTrudko: sure17:07
SolarisBoyTrudko: back up your configs first.17:07
dsbI just don't understand why the kernel is doing anything with the NIC configuration at this point.  It's not ifup/ifdown stuff.  I would understand if it was doing a network boot, but it's not.17:07
TrudkoSolarisBoy: apache configs?17:07
SolarisBoyTrudko: yes17:08
veryhappythank you guys17:08
veryhappytake care17:08
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hitsujiTMOTrudko: I'd also suggest looking into using nginx with passenger instead of apache ... nginx is much more lightweight than apache17:09
TrudkohitsujiTMO: thx for the tip, but I am istalling into production and I dont have experience with nginx so I dont want to switch on last moment17:09
SolarisBoygood call..17:10
raubdsb: I am curious myself. I always thought the kernel would only care about whether there is a network device or not. And then pass that to the network scripts which should then read /etc/network/interfaces17:11
raubScary if you ask me17:11
dsbraub: that was my understanding, too.17:12
dsbI've booted into a live usb stick OK, and see the filesystems w/o problem.17:12
njsgdsb: I think there are zeroconfiguration mechanisms for some networks. here at least I think ipv6 gets configured if I simply bring the device up17:13
gdosgeirha: echo $TERM returns xterm17:13
gdoshitsujiTMO: echo $PS1 returns: \[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$17:13
raubdsb: I do know systemd might do some stuff like that. But then again I like to blame systemd for all that is wrong in the universe17:13
dsbraub: well, isn't it?17:14
ikoniagdos: how did you launch that17:14
ikoniagdos: as TERM should not be "xterm" unless it really is an xterm17:14
gdosActionParsnip: cat /etc/issue returns: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l17:14
spm-DragetI am instlaling icinga and want to monitor other ubuntu linux hosts. This howto http://www.howtoforge.com/server-monitoring-with-icinga-on-ubuntu-11.10-p3 says I should use nrpe and install the package 'nagios-nrpe-plugin'. But this packages pulls nagios?!17:14
ESPGuillermoIf I boot Ubuntu from USB, will it install to my hard drive or on to my actual USB?17:14
spm-DragetCan someone clarify how to monitor other linux hosts with icinga?17:14
ikoniaspm-Draget: using a howtoforge link = bad, using a howtoforge link for an old release = very bad17:14
gdosikonia: through xfce-terminal and again through guake.17:15
raubESPGuillermo: if you are using the normal ubuntu install image, it should ask you wehre you want to put it17:15
spm-Dragetikonia: True.17:15
Picispm-Draget: don't install recommends when you install nagios-nrpe-plugin.17:15
Picispm-Draget: i.e.: sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends nagios-nrpe-plugin.17:15
ESPGuillermoraub yeah it does, only option is C:\ drive which I don't have enough storage for, say 18gb, Ubuntu. So I'm considering an external hard drive to install ubuntu17:15
spm-DragetPici: Thanks17:16
raubESPGuillermo: should work; put external drive in one usb port, the boot disk in the other and off you go. FYI, I have run ubuntu in 5GB disks before17:17
raubJust depends on what you need17:17
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fellayaboywill a sudo apt-get upgrade continue to run even if i close the terminal???17:23
tgm4883fellayaboy, no17:23
ESPGuillermoWould you say Ubuntu > Windows for performance?17:23
MonkeyDust fellayaboy if you want that, use screen17:23
ESPGuillermoI'd switch fully to Ubuntu but a lot of the programs I use aren't compatibly17:23
fellayaboydamn. what do i do now17:23
tgm4883ESPGuillermo, depends17:23
tgm4883fellayaboy, was it still downloading, or was it installing?17:23
fellayaboyi mistakely closed the terminal during that upgrade...17:24
fellayaboyi think it was installing17:24
tgm4883hmm17:24
fellayaboyi tried to run apt-get upgrade but it says its locked by dkpg17:24
MonkeyDustfellayaboy  type screen, a new terminal layer opens... run apt-get... you can now close the terminal and even logout, it will continue17:24
JediMasterhas anyone got the ubuntu repo version of cinnamon interface working on Saucy? When I try I get errors saying dbus javascript is missing and the UI doesn't load17:24
fellayaboyi know about screen17:24
JediMasterfellayaboy,  doing it as sudo or root?17:25
fellayaboysudo17:25
MonkeyDustJediMaster  saucy support in #ubuntu+117:25
bodhi64hello im having  troubles with right clicking. can't seem to bring up the traditional copy paste menu from right clicking17:25
fellayaboydpkg process is still running though17:25
JediMasterMonkeyDust, ah yes, I'm a few days early here =)17:25
fellayaboyshould i kill the process and try again?17:25
MonkeyDustbodhi64  in bodhi linux? if yes: it's not supported here17:25
MonkeyDustJediMaster  using the release candidate? :)17:26
ESPGuillermoWhich is the best Linux OS? And what are the reasons for having many different ones?17:26
bodhi64its dead in there. thought maybe its ubuntu based and maybe someone knows the package that maybe bodhi is missing for this function17:26
YowlSomething in the ~ directory, means it's in home, right?17:26
LiENUShow do i go about converting .amr to mp3 in ubuntu?17:26
MonkeyDustLiENUS  winFF is a nice ffmpeg GUI17:27
LiENUS.wav would work but i need to email a couple phone conversations :/17:27
mydog2hey guys.. anyone here have knowledge of the old dlink routers17:27
hitsujiTMOESPGuillermo: best linux OS is Linux17:27
tgm4883Yowl, yes, ~/ is a shortcut to your home directory17:27
mydog2i'm trying to use on as a hub to allow a couple of dells to talk on the same subnet..17:27
bodhi64LiENUS u can use audacity17:28
ESPGuillermohitsujiTMO huh? I thought there was like loads of different linux distributions17:28
hitsujiTMOESPGuillermo: best linux 'distro' tho is what ever you feel most comfortable with17:28
LiENUSMonkeyDust, isnt ffmpeg for movies or does it do audio only?17:28
mydog2i disabled the dhcp, set the ip of the device to be in the same sub 192.168.5.20017:28
MonkeyDustLiENUS  both17:28
LiENUSbodhi64, that sounds like it might work better i forgot about audacity17:28
JediMasterMonkeyDust, yes, various issues, but pretty much every time I apt-get upgrade they're fixed, apart from this cinnamon one which makes it unusable =(17:28
mydog2turned off all the filters i could find.17:28
ESPGuillermoUbuntu seems the most popular, so think I'm going to go with that17:29
mydog2plugged in the main eth and the two dells.. and i can only see one of the dells..17:29
bodhi64ESPGuillermo. you can also go with ubuntu based distros17:29
mydog2both machines work with the correct dhcp/eth addresses if i directly connect via the main eth17:29
ESPGuillermoWhat is the Ubuntu speed in comparison to standard Windows 7?17:30
bzk23nod17:31
bzk23sup17:31
bzk23yo17:31
kongthapafter using fsck to i got lost+found directory on each partition, should i delete it???17:31
bzk23sure17:31
paulus68_1mydog2: pay attention if you switch the main eth cable the router/HUB will still remember the Ip adress given to the first Dell if you put the cable in the second Dell it's not going to work before you have reset the router/hub17:31
LiENUSMonkeyDust, tried ffmpeg and i get this error "Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame'17:31
LiENUS"17:31
hitsujiTMOESPGuillermo: that question makes absolutely no sense17:31
ESPGuillermohitsujiTMO yes it does. I was asking for somebody to compare the general speed of Ubuntu vs Windows 717:32
paulus68_1ESPGuillermo: Ubuntu is faster in my opinion and consumes less space compared to a windows 7 installation17:32
bodhi64and thats just ubuntu. go with a lighter distro and its even faster17:33
JediMasterUbuntu 13.10 boots from POST to desktop with password typing time in around 5 seconds for me (booting from a 550MB/sec SSD)17:35
skinnybearnot bad Jedi17:35
datacrusherhello everyone! I installed ubnutu lts on a friends hp notebook, with onboard ati vga. I managed to install the experimental drivers and got even team fortress running like a charm on the machine. but, after the last atomatic updates (as he told me, doubt he made any advanced tweaking on the system) the lightdm boot after inserting the password just bounces back to login screen17:35
skinnybearcould you clarify what is wrong with lightdm?17:36
fishcookerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6214710/17:39
fishcookerwhy there is no output from the serial device17:39
El_BudaHi all, how can i remove old kernels??17:40
SlartEl_Buda: use apt-get remove with the older kernel package you no longer want installed17:44
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paulus68El_Buda: try this link http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/ubuntu-cleanup-how-to-remove-all-unused-linux-kernel-headers-images-and-modules/17:48
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paulus68Slart: you need to pay attention because you can get unmet dependencies which you need to clean afterwards17:49
abradleyI have this in smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214345/  but I'm getting this error when I try to write to the share from windows 7: http://i.imgur.com/KNN3yOv.png17:49
Slartpaulus68: by just using regular apt-get? isn't that supposed to take care of dependencies?17:49
paulus68Slart: no I'm afraid not17:50
paulus68abradley: just a thought did you restart your samba?17:51
abradleyindeed, thanks though17:51
raubEl_Buda: that link should work fine if you have disk space left (/usr or /var?)17:52
SlartEl_Buda: oh.. and a quick gotcha since that link had some handy terminal commands for you to copy paste.. here's a small warning about doing just that.. ie copying commands from a website http://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste17:53
raubBut, Slart! It's fun to mindless copy commands that are to be run as root from websites! What can possibly go wrong? ;)17:54
El_BudaThank you guys!17:55
Slartraub: indeed... sometimes I think that might be biggest weakness when it comes to security in linux.. people willingy running almost anything in a terminal window =)17:56
aerodynamixGuys! Is it impossible to play games on ubuntu?...If Yes, Why?17:56
trismEl_Buda: if you are on 13.04 or newer, older kernels should be automatically unmarked so you might just need a: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove;17:56
El_BudaI have ubuntu 12.04 LTS installed trism17:56
raubaerodynamix: it all depends on the game17:56
El_Budacan i remove kernel-pae too?17:56
Slartaerodynamix: it's not impossible.. you might have to struggle a bit to play the big windows-games on linux.. but there are plenty of games available17:56
aerodynamix@raub: Let's say GTA 4..17:57
Slart!wine | aerodynamix17:57
ubottuaerodynamix: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu17:57
Slartaerodynamix: no guarantees that gta4 will work out of the box but you can check that yourself in the application database (appdb.winehq.com)17:58
raubEl_Buda: oldwzder versions, probably. I'd keep the last one around17:58
paulus68abradley: perhaps this link can help you out https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html17:58
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aerodynamix@Slart: I've checked it.. it isn't there..I just wanted to know the root cause all these pitfalls...17:59
Slartaerodynamix: huh? not in there? but gta4 is a couple of years old, right?17:59
raubaerodynamix: remmeber Windows != Linux no matter what systemd thinks17:59
spm-Dragetaerodynamix: Many games are windows only. You can try using WINE - a way I am able to play quite a few games (Wizardry 7, CS:GO, Oddworld, Older ones) but many games run via wine are buggy. GTA 4 will most likely not work bug-free. Check the winehq.org appdb18:00
Slartaerodynamix: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=875718:00
spm-Dragetaerodynamix: Steam has many Linux games tho - I have > 100 in there =D18:00
fishcookerdo i have the right driver for these devices if http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214775/?18:01
aerodynamixthanks all...18:01
El_Budathank you raub18:01
raubfishcooker: meaning? It is not working?18:02
raubEl_Buda: just to make sure you have free disk space but just want to do some trimming?18:02
raubAs opposite to me who usually runs a 512MB /boot, 2GB /usr and /var partitions ;)18:03
fishcookeryes i do have those serial because on 12.04 i can get the output from those serial18:03
El_Budaraub,  only for cleaning18:03
fishcookerbut right  now on 10.04 i get Nothing raub18:04
aerodynamix@spm-Draget@Slart@raub@ubottu:  Guys..why aren't the games directly built for linux by EA Sports,Rockstar Games etc18:04
raubEl_Buda: Cool. Because if you were running out of disk space things are a bit more invovled.18:04
spm-Dragetaerodynamix: Why do you ask this in here?18:04
spm-Dragetaerodynamix: Ask those companies.18:04
Slartaerodynamix: that's not really a question we can answer.. my guess is money18:04
raubaerodynamix: market share? Perceived return? Inertia? Aliens? Anal probing?18:05
aerodynamixthanks..i wouldn't ask about it again..18:05
ZiberIs there a recommended, safe way to configure my trackpad to be able to switch between virtual desktops, a la Mac OSX?18:05
fishcookerdo i have wrong driver for these devices here raub?18:05
El_Budaraub, i use an SSD so all space is important hehe18:05
raubaerodynamix: you might email the publisher18:06
raubIf enough people ask for linux support they might put th emoney and do it18:06
aerodynamix@raub: yeah..18:06
kostkonaerodynamix, slowly most of them will start releasing for linux. Just be patient. Check on steam18:06
raubfishcooker: Not necessarily. Any thing funny in dmesg?18:07
aerodynamix@kostkon: okay.. i will18:07
MonkeyDustZiber  depends on how MacOS does it18:07
tgm4883aerodynamix, seriously, ask the publisher18:07
kostkonaerodynamix, maybe except EA18:07
raubaerodynamix: remember that most games are for the consoles and windows. Even Macs do not have that many games18:07
raubunless you are talking baout ipads and iphones that is ;)18:08
kostkonraub, most games are on android18:08
aerodynamix@raub: yes...:-)18:08
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raubkostkon: you got my drift ;)18:08
ZiberMonkeyDust: Well, I'd like an easy way (probably with a mulit-touch gesture) to switch between them.18:09
aerodynamix@kostkon: why except EA?18:09
kostkonaerodynamix, because they stopped publishing their games on steam18:09
ed__does anyone know how to get ubuntu to read udf files?18:10
aerodynamix@kostkon: ok..thanks.18:10
kostkonaerodynamix, but you never know.18:11
paulus68ed__: for what purpose?18:11
ZiberMonkeyDust: I've read http://task3.cc/1068/os-x-like-multitouch-gestures-for-macbook-pro-running-ubuntu-12-10/ but I'm nervous about making that many system modifications... I don't want to permanently skrew anything up.18:11
ed__@paulus68: I am trying to get it to read a windows 7 installation disc18:11
dhrosahello, I have a problem with my keyboard  where  sometimes the  spacebar gets  double p ressed, can I configure ubuntu to ignore repeated key presses?18:12
paulus68ed__: udf stands for user defined format  and why do you want linux to read window7 install disk18:12
tgm4883paulus68, I think you mean "Universal Disk Format"18:14
ed__paulus68: as far as I know, udf stands for universal disc format. I'm trying to reinstall windows 7 because I don't want ubuntu anymore, but a lot of linux os have trouble reading udf18:14
ed__I've read advice on various forums, but nothing seems to work18:14
dhrosaaha,  found it  under  universal access18:15
tgm4883ed__, looks like you need udftools libudf018:16
paulus68ed__: and what if you create a bootable usb for windows 718:16
aerodynamixspm-Draget  |  Slart  |  raub  |  ubottu  |  kostkon  : and there's SteamOS, released just 2 weeks ago...18:16
kostkonaerodynamix, not released yet actually, just announced18:16
aerodynamix@kostkon: oh..18:17
Slartaerodynamix: yes, things are looking better and better with each day.. but this is getting offtopic.. #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better place for this discussion18:17
ed__tgm4883: I've downloaded udftools but haven't been able to figure out how to use it.18:17
aerodynamix@Slart: i'm an IRC newbie..so i'm just getting a hang of things around..i'll see #ubuntu-offtopic18:18
aerodynamix@Slart: thanks..18:19
Slartaerodynamix: you're welcome18:19
tgm4883ed__, a quick search says k3b has udf support18:19
fishcookeryes this is the output here, raub.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214775/ also this18:20
tgm4883ed__, but IDK, I've always just used ISO format, which begs the question, where did you get a UDF file?18:20
aerodynamixWhich one is the best book to start learning BASH and linux stuff..18:20
ed__tgm4883: I know a computer repair guy who I asked for a windows 7 installation disc, and that just happened to be the format18:21
tgm4883...18:21
paulus68 !manual | aerodynamix18:21
ubottuaerodynamix: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/18:21
Rory!cli | aerodynamix18:21
ubottuaerodynamix: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro18:21
fishcookerthis is the funny thing raub http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214857/18:21
fishcookerthere is two serial disabled18:22
paulus68ed__: the best thing that you can do in my opinion is find a windows 7 iso on the net and use the serial you got from your friend18:23
tgm4883paulus68, uh, we don't support that here18:23
paulus68tgm4883: I know18:23
aerodynamixpaulus68|ubottu|Rory: Thanks guys!18:23
paulus68tgm4883: can just suggest it18:24
tgm4883paulus68, no, don't even suggest it18:24
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paulus68tgm4883: we try to help the guy I give a possible solution and he can use this info or just put it aside it's his choice18:26
tgm4883!piracy | paulus6818:26
ubottupaulus68: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o18:26
hitsujiTMOI guess he could purchase an MSDN subscription and download the ISO from there :P18:27
tgm4883hitsujiTMO, he could if he was a developer18:27
paulus68tgm4883: I didn't use any links what so ever but the remark is noted!!18:29
havvI'm using Xubuntu 13.04 and I got a notification saying I have 3 updates available, but when I try to see what are those updates it tells my that everything is up to date18:31
Roryhavv: use the terminal to run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade18:32
hitsujiTMOhavv: prob kernel update18:32
havvthanks! it worked18:34
Roryhavv: No problem, glad to hear it =)18:35
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ed__can anyone help me uninstall ubuntu?18:42
hitsujiTMOed__ ... you can't 'uninstall' an OS18:43
paulus68Rory: FYI after changing the settings and rebooting the language settings where adapted18:43
hitsujiTMOed__ you need to install a different OS in it's place18:43
ed__I cant get it to read the udf disc I'm using to reinstall windows18:43
Soul-Singhai, is it possible to contact ubuntu-rt via a channel on feenode?18:43
ed__I've tried a few different things, and nothing seems to work18:44
CatKillered__: You can use wubi if you installed ubuntu with it18:44
repudiateSoul-Sing: Ubuntu-rt, what's that?18:44
CatKillerhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer18:44
repudiateCatKiller: Are you really a CatKiller ?18:44
hitsujiTMOed__: have you tried renameing the .udf to .iso?18:44
repudiateThat's awful CatKiller18:44
paulus68ed__:  can you boot from that cd?18:44
IdleOneSoul-Sing: as far as I know the only way is via rt at ubuntu.com18:44
CatKillerrepudiate: What's a catkiller?18:45
repudiateOne who kills cats?18:45
Soul-SingIdleOne, thx18:45
CatKillerNo, it would be "cat killer"18:45
repudiateoh, thanks for clarifying.18:45
CatKillerthe space (or lack of) is important18:45
ed__paulus68: I cannot boot from that CD. I think that's primarily the issue/18:45
tgm4883ed__, I'd suggest you order a replacement disk from microsoft18:46
repudiateCatKiller: So ISuckDick, would mean that...you actually, right?18:46
ed__tgm4883: I would, but they want to charge nearly $200 for a premium support package18:46
CatKillerrepudiate: You're being less than polite18:47
repudiateCatKiller: Soryy, just a joke (in bad taste)18:47
CatKillerrepudiate: That's ok18:47
ed__It looks like I might just have to find another disc though18:47
hitsujiTMOed__ is it a .udf file or udf file system?18:47
* repudiate walks away shamefully.18:47
CatKillerrepudiate: I love cats btw. The name doesn't mean what you think it does18:47
CatKillerrepudiate: But the confusion is understandable18:47
ed__hitsujiTMO: it is a .udf file18:47
CatKillerrepudiate: It was supposed to mean the opposite18:48
hitsujiTMOed__: http://myfotoblast.com/blog/?p=45218:48
tgm4883ed__, I'm looking at a post right now where someone says it's $3018:48
tgm4883ed__, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/32624618:49
hitsujiTMOed__: in future, you should create an image of your computer before installing a new OS if you do not have the installation media18:49
paulus68ed__: I'd go with hitsujitmo's suggestion18:50
repudiateWhat is the best way to take an image of your computer? Is there any free software?18:50
hitsujiTMOrepudiate: dd18:50
delinquentmeso I'm supposed to get 4 hours of battery out of this new laptop18:50
delinquentmeis there some ubuntu util for tuning this battery use?18:51
delinquentmeim getitng < 2 hrs18:51
tgm4883repudiate, http://clonezilla.org/18:51
repudiatetgm4883: Thanks.18:51
repudiatehitsujiTMO: DD?18:51
repudiateAs in the cup size?18:51
michohello. How  can I know that I have my /home folder encrypted? (Ubuntu 13). I know that there was a checkbox during installation, but I don't remember if I used it.18:51
tgm4883delinquentme, I had a similar issue  until I installed the prop video drivers18:51
tgm4883!info dd18:51
ubottuPackage dd does not exist in raring18:52
tgm4883well fine then18:52
paulus68!backup|repudiate18:52
ubotturepudiate: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning18:52
ed__thanks, everyone. I'll give those suggestions a shot.18:52
hitsujiTMOrepudiate: dd is a command line util that allows you to copy a drive to a file, and back18:52
paulus68!dd18:52
nick__repudiate: I like and use g4l -> it's a live cd: http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/18:52
hitsujiTMOdelinquentme: is it a fresh install?18:53
delinquentmehitsujiTMO, yeaaaa!18:54
delinquentmetgm4883, unfortunately the video drivers killed the display18:54
delinquentme=[18:54
tgm4883delinquentme, what video card/laptop?18:55
hitsujiTMOdelinquentme: i had a few odd issues with battery calibration for the first few runs of ubuntu on my current laptop ... what specs?18:55
delinquentmetried installing them and they just shit out all display operations18:56
delinquentmehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683431358418:56
FloodBot1delinquentme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:56
delinquentmeso yeah its a pretty  new model18:56
leptone_please help. trying to install Mathematica. encountering error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6215002/18:57
hitsujiTMOoooh that does look like a battery eater alright18:57
leptone_following this article: http://kobriniq.ru/mathematica/ustanovka-mathematica-9-v-operatsionnoy-sisteme-linux-os-mint-ubuntu18:58
trismleptone_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1323342 suggests you should remove the spaces from the folder name to fix the issue18:59
trismleptone_: so: mv 'Mathematica 9 Linux' Mathematica9Linux19:00
michoHow  can I know that I have my /home folder encrypted? (Ubuntu 13). I know that there was a checkbox during installation, but I don't remember if I used it.19:00
delinquentmehitsujiTMO, but the specs are claiming 4 horus19:00
delinquentmehours **19:00
delinquentmein addition its the 4th gen haswell19:00
hitsujiTMOdelinquentme: unfortunately i don't know any specific tools, but have a read thru https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement for tweaks you can do ... turning down brightness is one of the biggest power savers19:00
hitsujiTMOdelinquentme: its 4 hours ... but is that on idle?19:01
tgm4883delinquentme, it's really very simple. The open source video drivers don't know how to handle that hardware. It's likely that you have 3 video cards all powered and running at the same time.19:01
CTravainHello19:02
tgm4883that is the exact issue I had19:02
n0ldorhi19:02
LixdHi, if I make a live CD out of my secondary harddrive (don't ask me why), can I use it then as a source for installation to the main drive? (if I choose to boot from the secondary one) I guess I can, I'm just curious if somebody has tried it19:03
fellayaboyhow can i burn a data dvd made from files and folders using terminal19:04
malluHi.. I have an openldap server and now trying to figure out NFS and automount for home directories... Any documents/sites you can share with me how to do it? I looked all over and unable to find oone19:04
leptone_trism, awesome thx a lot!19:04
Lixd(I would make that liveCD using unetbootin )19:04
n0ldori have ubuntu in vmware and i have installed a mysql database, but i don't now how can i connect from the pc to this database, it shows to me this error: "Error SQL(2003) Can't connect to Mysq server"19:05
gdoshitsujiTMO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/1237594 (bug report filed on that issue we discussed earlier)19:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 1237594 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu) "xfce-terminal (or other terminals) outputs the U+0001 control character" [Undecided,New]19:05
tgm4883n0ldor, can you connect to it from the mysql server?19:06
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n0ldoryes19:06
hitsujiTMOn0ldor: by default mysql is set so its accessible by localhost only19:06
mallui have nfs installed and working.. just need to figure out how to enable autofs schema and automount19:06
martendmallu: maybe fstab is for you19:06
Rogue-3n0ldor: edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and comment out or remove the "bind 127.0.0.1" line19:07
tgm4883n0ldor, then I agree with hitsujiTMO you'll need to set it to listen on more than localhost. See Rogue-3 above19:07
n0ldorRogue-3: ok i try :D19:07
Lixd<Lixd> Hi, if I make a live CD out of my secondary harddrive (don't ask me why), can I use it then as a source for installation to the main drive? (if I choose to boot from the secondary one) I guess I can, I'm just curious if somebody has tried it (I would make that liveCD using unetbootin )19:07
Lixd:)19:07
VozivIs there a way to only allow a hostname through the firewall? (Dynamic ip address issue)19:09
Lixd<- So I guess nobody has tried that...19:09
saiarcot895Lixd: I would guess it would work, provided you boot to that partition19:10
ikoniaLixd: a livecd is different from an installer, so it would depend on how you want to "use it as a source"19:10
hitsujiTMOVoziv: is this in a local environment or over net?19:10
VozivOver net19:10
Lixdsaiarcot895: I will make sure;  ikonia: the utility unetbootin makes that possible as it seems19:11
ejvpublic facing mysql server, without a firewall device, is not recommended. use with caution.19:11
Lixdand should take care about MBR and such stuff19:11
ikoniaLixd: well no - it's not actually that simple19:11
Lixdikonia:  it is not?19:11
ikoniaLixd: on paper the concept is sane,19:11
tgm4883Voziv, I would suggest port knocking19:11
LixdSo what's the problem?19:11
ikoniaLixd: keep in mind the installer expect certain things in certain loctions in a certain state, if you then change them and make a "new" livemedia, things may not be in the state expected19:11
hitsujiTMOVoziv: I cannot think of a single way of allowing access via hostname ... but depending on the service there could be some other of securing the connection19:12
Vozivok19:12
Lixdikonia:  how so if it can work on a USB19:12
tgm4883!info knockd19:12
ubottuknockd (source: knockd): small port-knock daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-3ubuntu1 (raring), package size 26 kB, installed size 168 kB19:12
ikoniaLixd: what do you mean, how can it work, what is "it"19:12
LixdI'm only intending to use another media19:12
tgm4883Voziv, I would look at knockd19:12
Lixdikonia: isntallation of Ubuntu19:12
Lixdcan be made to USB19:12
ikoniaLixd: yes, you can install the standard ubuntu image from a USB....that's not what you said, you said make a custom livecd.19:13
Lixdno19:13
Lixdor I'm sorry19:13
Lixdto make myself clear19:13
tgm4883!enter19:13
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:13
VozivThanks tgm4883, I know about port knocking already though19:13
ikoniahave I missunderstood, if so sorry19:13
Lixdikona: I want to proceed as if making a USB ubuntu installation flash drive, but with a harddisk (non usb)19:14
Lixdwhich... should work I suppose19:14
ikoniaLixd: ahhh19:14
Lixd(with my secondary harddisk)19:14
Lixdso I guess if I make my computer to boot at it, it should work as a USB19:14
ikoniaLixd: the issue you may have there is actually booting it, which should be an easy fix, but that should work19:14
tgm4883Voziv, I'm unaware of allowing a hostname though a firewall, but if you want something more secure than port knocking, perhaps single packet authorization?19:14
Lixd(that computer has problems with USB booting)19:15
Lixdikonia: yeah...19:15
ikoniaLixd: apologies, miss-understood what you where trying to do19:15
Lixdthat computer is right now cdrom-less (and I'm too in general) and having troubles booting from USB even when I choose to boot it... it always gives me "Boot error" (but the same flash drive works on any other computer )19:15
Lixdikonia: no problem...19:15
hitsujiTMOvoziv: the easiest option may be to use a vpn19:16
VozivI just found an interesting approach. Running a cron job that resolves a host name periodically and updates the firewall based on the ip address19:19
clarisseBonsoir19:21
TJ-Voziv: Allowing netfilters access to a hostname is possible, via scripting, if the DNS zone has a short TTL so the hostname and currently allocated IP are always in sync. A cron job runs every minute that does "iptables -D INPUT -s $LAST_IP/32 -j ACCEPT; LAST_IP=$(dig $HOSTNAME); iptables -A INPUT -s $LAST_IP/32 -j ACCEPT"19:21
Vozivyeah. I'm looking at doing something similar19:22
TJ-Voziv: Obviously the script needs to 'save' $LAST_IP to a file so it can be sourced each time the cron job runs. "echo LAST_IP=$LAST_IP >>/var/spool/fw-ip.sh" and in the cron job "$SAVED=/var/spool/fw-ip.sh; [ -n "$SAVED" -a -r "$SAVED" ] && source "$SAVED"  "19:25
VozivTJ-: http://diginc.us/linux/2010/using-iptables-with-dynamic-ip-hostnames-like-dyndns-org/19:25
TJ-Voziv: That looks like overkill... no need to 'restart' iptables which infers flushing the tables and reloading, which could affect current connections19:26
TJ-Voziv: Just remove the old IP if it has changed, and insert the new one19:26
Vozivyeah19:26
VozivI agree, but we're both on the same page19:26
TJ-Voziv: It all depends on a short TTL in the DNS zone to avoid caching locally19:27
VozivIf it's super important yeah19:27
TJ-If the TTL is 5 minutes make the cron job the same19:27
TJ-Voziv: The longer the TTL the longer the time you might have to wait to gain access if the stale rule is in place19:28
VozivI'll be running somewhere between 30-60 minutes. The ip change is rare19:28
VozivI think the TTL is 5 minutes, but I'm just not worried about checking that often19:28
TJ-Voziv: If the TTL is 30 minutes the cron job every 15 would make sense19:28
hitsujiTMOVoziv: what protocol is the apps using to communicate?19:31
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Vozivtcp19:31
hitsujiTMOwhat protocol on top of tcp? or do you know?19:31
brainwash!nomodeset19:32
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:32
YowlDoes truecrypt get along with ubuntu very well?19:34
VozivhitsujiTMO: Currently I'm just looking to wall of my sshd19:35
skinuxI just installed w3c-markup-validator from repo, I can only find it in /usr/share, how do I fully install it for use?19:35
hitsujiTMOare you using rsa auth?19:35
TJ-Voziv: openpvn! Don't leave SSH open at all... openvpn with UDP and a TA key is much safer19:35
VozivIt's already secure in the fact that there's only a single user with a single ssh key that can access the system. It's just peice of mind and less logs if outside connections are straight up rejected. And I'll know how to do it in the future :)19:36
VozivTJ-: Sort of why I'm after firewalling it except the two ip's that matter19:36
TJ-Voziv: I use openvpn because once its up I can use any protocol I need, not limited to SSH. Makes testing, or accessing private LAN services much more streamlined. It also allows the server to 'push' to the client once the VPN tunnel is active.19:38
hitsujiTMOVoziv: yeah if you want to add another layer of security then VPN would be the best choice19:38
tqrstis it normal for python binding packages like python-subversion to not track the current python version? Ubuntu came with python 2.7, yet python-subversion installs bindings specific to 2.6, which I can't load from 2.7.19:38
mariannehi guys... I'm looking for a text editor like Edit+ (where you can select what programming language you're writing in). The descriptions in the software center don't answer my questions. I'd also rather not have to run it thgough Wine, if possible. Anyone have any suggestions?19:38
hitsujiTMOmarianne: sublime text 219:39
VozivTJ-: Yup19:39
TJ-marianne: emacs or vim, if you don't mind terminals19:40
Rorymarianne: geany, kate, or sublime text19:40
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mariannehitsujiTMO: thanks, I'll look it up19:40
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marianneTJ: terminal isn't bad, it's kinda how I started out19:40
Vozivor nano!19:40
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marianneRory: hummm... need to research the first 2, never heard of them19:41
TJ-marianne: Well emacs and vim have many supporting features for many programming languages, not least syntax highlighting and code-completion, build system integration, etc.19:41
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Rorymarianne: Kate is the default KDE text editor19:41
nick__marianne: I like gedit, but then I prefer the gnome desktop19:43
TJ-marianne: The ultimate of course is Eclipse IDE19:43
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marianneTJ: I'm not a fan of Eclipse.... makes fun stuff look too much like work... and it's almost easier for me to work in a simple plain non-distracting window19:45
toto6hi ! Do you know how i can stretch image background in the terminal (terminator) ? thanks :)19:46
marianneThanks guys... off to research19:47
bbtechIs there a way I can run a bash script without the ./ in front?19:47
petrepatrascsource <filename>?19:48
bbtechpetrepatrasc, I meant just "filename" not "source filename"19:49
Rory!path | bbtech19:49
ubottubbtech: path is The $PATH variable tells the shell where to look for the commands you tell it to run. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#File-location_related_variables19:49
comptrollerhey all,  how do I install a game that has no file extension? What is the command?19:49
bbtechRory, the script is on the path and I'm in the directory where the script resides19:49
Rorybbtech: What's the output of "echo $PATH"19:49
bbtechI just want to type myProgram instead of ./myProgram, is it possible? without an alias?19:49
Rorycomptroller: Completely depends on the application, what are you trying to install?19:50
bbtechRory, why does it matter, I'm inside the directory where the script resides.19:50
Rorybbtech: Because that's how bash works19:50
Rorybbtech: It needs to be in a directory in your $PATH19:50
bbtechThe path has /home/brett/.dotfiles/bin: ...which is where the script is19:51
comptrollerRory, I'm trying to run the LegendofDungeon install file19:51
Rorycomptroller: Are you following a guide?19:51
bbtechMaybe I'm not being clear, I can run ./myProgram, sh myProgram, source myProgram....but I want to run myProgram19:52
comptrollerRory, no there isn't one with the torrent19:52
TJ-bbtech: Have you included a shebang line in the script?19:52
bbtechTJ-, yes19:52
Rorybbtech: And maybe I'm not being clear. The directory that myProgram is in needs to be in your $PATH19:52
bbtechRory, it is19:52
Rorycomptroller: and ./filename doesn't work?19:52
Rorybbtech: What's the output of "echo $PATH"19:52
TJ-bbtech: Then something in the PATH is stopping it. What do you get when you type "which myProgram"19:53
bbtechRory, /home/brett/.dotfiles/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games19:53
Rorybbtech: And is myProgram in one of those directories?19:53
bbtechTJ-, which myProgram returns nothing19:53
bbtechyes it is ....ohhh!19:53
bbtechsorry everyone!19:53
Rorybbtech: Bet you it isn;t19:53
bbtechit's in /home/brett/dotfiles/bin19:54
Rory=)19:54
bbtechnot /home/brett/.dotfiles/bin19:54
TJ-bbtech: Then its not in any dir on the path, or else there's a typo19:54
bbtechstupid dot19:54
blujahhHhh19:54
* TJ- sniggers19:54
loacan't understand one, thing... i noticed unstable work of my sistem and decide to try old kernels, but when i use them, after i logon i see only black screnn. So i see lightdm i enter login informatio, but after that going black screen.19:54
loawhat it can be?19:54
* bluj removes window flash on his name :-)19:54
Roryloa: Is it only old kernels that do this?19:54
loaRory, last one is ok.19:55
Roryloa: Can you log into another user, or the guest user?19:55
TJ-loa: If you're using a proprietary graphics driver, it may be its kernel module hasn't been built for the older kernels19:55
Rorycomptroller: You need to set the installer as executable by right-clicking it and going properties->allow executing19:56
loaTJ-, i have nvidia, so i use it? But... How lightdm works?19:56
Rorycomptroller: Then you should be able to double click it to run it19:56
TJ-loa: Sounds like the nvidia module for the older kernels may not have been built... it uses DKMS to get built when a kernel is installed - usually - but it can fail to build against some kernels.19:57
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loaI can run this procudure again?19:57
Roryloa: ls /var/lib/initramfs-tools | sudo xargs -n1 /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start19:57
comptrollerRory, I tried but it just starts playing music but no file opens.  I had to kill the process manually19:58
Rorycomptroller: Try from the terminal: cd /path/to/directory then ./filename19:59
loaRory i need to run update-initramfs after that?19:59
Roryloa: I don't know actually. Yes19:59
Roryloa: Doing so won't cause problems19:59
loaSo can you explain me, how lightdm works well without driver?20:00
loalooks like it works on right resolution20:00
duxbI'm having trouble using S/MIME encryption/signing in thunderbird, anybody have any experience with it?20:03
superjoehi - I tried to install Ubuntu 13.04 desktop 64-bit with a usb drive but it says mounting /dev/loop1 on /cow failed: invalid argument can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow20:04
superjoethen it drops me into an "initramfs" prompt.20:05
Rorysuperjoe: Did you use Startup Disk Creator to make the USB?20:05
superjoeRory, yes20:05
superjoeusb-creator-gtk20:05
Rorysuperjoe: choose the "Discard changes after shutdown" option when I was using Start up disk creator program to create it20:05
Roryerr I copied that20:05
RorySo the sentence doesn't make sense, but you know what I mean20:05
superjoelet me try to find that20:05
iUnifyHello guys, I have a quick question.... I have been here back and forth with Ubuntu issues and unable to resolve them with my hardware... I just got a windows8 dvd (dindt really want 8 but thats besides the point) and now I have NO idea how I am to install it... I can't run .exe from linux, the dvd doesnt run it if i boot to it... so, how do I go about this?20:07
duxbanybody know anything about using SSL certs in thunderbird to sign/encrypt?20:08
RoryiUnify: Completely offtopic20:08
Rory!ot | iUnify20:08
ubottuiUnify: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:08
RoryiUnify: Ask in ##windows for windows-related support20:08
iUnifyI understand, I have been here for questions time and again - but its an Ubuntu question...20:08
iUnifyNo one in Windows will know how to install from Linux20:09
Rory!windows | iUnify no it isn't20:09
ubottuiUnify no it isn't: For discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents20:09
ikoniait's not an ubuntu question, it's nothing to do with ubuntu20:09
RoryiUnify: You are having a problem booting from the Windows DVD20:09
Roryikonia: How is that an Ubuntu support issue?20:09
Roryikonia: Hey you stole my i[tab]20:09
ikoniait's not, as I've just said20:09
iUnifyAppoligies guys, just figured cause its not a question using win, i have unbuntu, and can't figure out what to do ON ubuntu20:09
ikoniaiUnify: you do nothing on ubuntu20:09
iUnifyYes, I set boot priority for dvd and nothing happened, can't run .exe20:10
ikoniaiUnify: you don't install windows from within ubuntu20:10
RoryiUnify: You don't install Windows within Ubuntu. It's irrelavnt to Ubuntu or any other OS - you boot from the DVD to install it20:10
RoryiUnify: Probably a bad DVD burn20:10
iUnifyOK, so essentially it should have boot from the dvd20:10
iUnifyIts a legit copy20:10
iUnifyI don't want to take space here fellas, sorry - I appreciate the info very much though, for real. THANKS!  Now... time to figure this bs out. lol20:11
duxbiUnify: call microsoft support, you paid for it, probably20:11
iUnifyFrom a pawn shop20:11
RoryiUnify: LOL20:11
RoryLiterally20:11
iUnifylol.  a friends tho, I can return if its beat.20:11
superjoeokay, now I'm getting /casper/vmlinuz.efi: read error @ 535785620:12
jdenningCan anyone provide me a pointer as to whom I should submit a patch for an init script?  I have a small patch to the /etc/init.d/freeradius script, but I'm not sure if that should be submitted to the Ubuntu (or Debian??) package maintainer, or the Freeradius project?  Any ideas?20:16
ikoniajdenning: init scripts are not in /etc/init.d any more20:17
jdenningikonia: I was patching against 12.04, I realize this has changed for more recent releases, but the patch is also applicable to upstart based init20:18
ikonia12.04 should be using upstart20:18
jdenningThe question remains though - who should patches of that sort go to?20:18
ikoniait needs to be a valid question, you're patching something that doesn't exist/shouldn't exist on ubuntu20:19
jdenningikonia: The file in 12.04 is /etc/init.d/freeradius - this is installed by the package 'freeradius'.20:19
jdenningikonia: <Sigh>  I hope you realize that this sort of "Why do you want to know?" response to straight-forward questions in the ubuntu community is kind of a running-joke among certain sysadmins I know (Redhat guys)20:20
jdenningI've never submitted a patch to an OSS project before - just trying to figure out if ubuntu maintainers would be interested or not.  I'm perfectly happy to just use it myself if no one cares.20:20
ikoniajdenning: no-one asked why you wanted to know, I correctly explained that the init script should be upstart20:20
ikoniajdenning: and seeing as I am a "redhat" guy, pointing at me and saying "you ubuntu guy is why redhat guys laugh" is stupid, more and a pointless ocmment20:21
wilee-nileejdenning, every group has a hierarchy and ins and out others, your argument/sigh is a childish response.20:21
jdenningikonia: My question was "who should I talk to about submitting this patch"  12.04 LTS, is still supported, correct?20:22
blotekikonia:  actually it makes sense20:22
ikoniajdenning: yes, and I stated that you maybe looking at it wrong as the file you want to patch should not be in place in ubuntu20:22
jdenningwilee-nilee: Not trying to be childish, just pointing out a criticism about the ubuntu community20:22
ikoniajdenning: so it's worth checking you are doing the right thing first,20:22
jdenningikonia: I installed the 'freeradius' package straight from the repo, that's where the package put the file.20:22
ikoniajdenning: right - so which repo would be a good start20:23
blotekikonia:  he does20:23
jdenning12.04 stable20:23
ikoniajdenning: that will give you an idea of where it's maintained or or taken from20:23
ikoniajdenning: 12.04 stable is not a repo20:23
ikoniajdenning: that's a release20:23
jdenningok, one sec.20:23
ikoniablotek: he does what, you'll get better responses if you actually try to talk in a sentence rather than throwing one word comments at me20:23
jdenning"precise main" I should have said20:24
ikoniajdenning: what's the package name ?20:24
jdenningfreeradius20:24
ikonia(as in the actual package)20:24
ikonia!info freeradius20:24
ubottufreeradius (source: freeradius): high-performance and highly configurable RADIUS server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.12+dfsg-1.2ubuntu1 (raring), package size 631 kB, installed size 1789 kB20:24
ikoniaok, so it's coming from main, so it's taken from debian, so depending on how you want to approach this the logical approach would be to submit the bug to the problem eg: debian and link it to ubuntu20:24
jared_Im Hared20:25
abradleyIs there a way to setup ubuntu to replicate (source) or duplice (destination) files in real-time?20:25
jared_Sorry Im Jared, I Can Help With Linux Problems!20:25
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abradley---to another ubuntu box on lan20:25
Guest31261NickServ20:25
jdenningikonia: Thanks - that's all I was trying to ascertain.20:26
ikoniajdenning: as that file should not be there though - you may want to think about how you approach it20:26
Guest31261Can someone help me be able to share files between linux and mac over LAN with no software needed to be downloaded?20:26
jdenningikonia: I'm not looking at taking over maintainership of the package - I just had to fix something, and thought it might be useful to the community.20:27
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Guest31261Can someone help me be able to share files between linux and mac over LAN with no software needed to be downloaded?20:27
faugusztinGuest31261: OS X, open Terminal, scp command20:27
ikoniajdenning: I didn't say take over mainteance, I said think about how you approach it as that file should not exist20:27
faugusztinsame on Linux20:27
jdenningI'm pretty far from a newb, but I've never contributed a patch to a pacakge before.20:27
SlartGuest31261: is it a clean default install of both systems?20:28
ikoniajdenning: no-one said you where a "newb" you'll get better results if you read what you're being given rather than putting words in peoples mouths20:28
loait is crazy how different all my old kernels work) using some can't even login, using one can't connect to local network)20:28
Guest31261how do i do the scp command20:28
loait is like a magic20:28
funkyhello20:28
ikonialoa: that has nothing to do with kernels20:28
jdenningikonia: Well, I don't get ==20:28
faugusztinGuest31261: http://ged.msu.edu/angus/tutorials/using-ssh-scp-terminal-macosx.html20:28
loaikonia, i meen old kernels from ubuntu20:28
Guest31261k thanks20:28
funkywhen I create mx record to mail.domain.com do I also create A record to point mail.domain.com to server IP?20:28
jdenningikonia: Don't get what you are saying I should do about the freeradius script being installed in "the wrong spot"20:29
ikonialoa: still has nothing to do with it20:29
loaikonia, what you meen nothing to do with it?20:29
funkyany ideas?20:29
jdenningikonia: 12.04 has a *lot* of files in /etc/init.d20:29
Gregor_Hello, i got a mini itx server, and i want to replace the 0,5tb with a 2tb. Are 2tb widely supported, or should i take a 1TB?   Intel nm10 chipset, I found nothing in data sheets...20:29
ikoniajdenning: well, that file shouldn't exist, so why is the file there, is it meant to be using upstart, or not, is the bug that it's not linked to an upstart script, etc, as if you fix the "broken" file it may get undone if/when it's fixed properly20:29
faugusztinGregor_: it will be fine, 2.2TB+ is a problem for some controllers, not for NM1020:30
funkyhey faugusztin20:30
jdenningikonia: Well, as I said, a lot of 12.04 *LTS* (as in, the only branch that is currently suitable for real server use) packages install files in /etc/init.d.  I assumed this patch would be useful to others in the community.  I will try to get in touch with the maintainer for Debian and see if they're interested.20:32
ikoniajdenning: have you actually looked at the files in /etc/init.d ?20:32
jdenningikonia: Yes, I'm looking at them now - want a list?20:33
jdenning(It's also where the ssh init script is installed BTW)20:33
ikoniajdenning: no, I mean have you actually looked at the init script you're considering patching,20:33
ikoniajdenning: as a lot of them are not scripts any more20:33
jdenningikonia: I've already patched it20:33
fhfHi guys I wanted to try out XRDP and installed it in my Ubuntu 12.04 machine. But now when I login the screen is blank (shows only wallpaper) I already removed xrdp package but I cannot access my desktop fine. How can I restore normal Unity Desktop?20:33
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jdenningikonia: It works great in my usage - it's nothing super fancy, just adds a 'status' output20:34
jdenning(which is necessary for certain CM frameworks)20:34
hayrihi i installed ubuntu 12.04 and windows7, but now grub does not detect windows when i type sudo update-grub although sudo os-prober detects windows. how can I add windows to my grub?20:35
jdenningikonia: Out of curiosity - did you really think I was asking about submitting a patch for a script I had not even looked at?20:35
joichiro#d20:35
ShadeShey guys, if i'm running a tail-f on a debug file, the screen will eventually go dim. How do I fix this?20:36
ikoniajdenning: possibly yes, checked it on debian and assumed it was the same in ubuntu etc,20:36
funky10 mail.roldax.com {No A Record} 10 min Blacklist Check      SMTP Test what does it mean?20:36
funkyno a record20:36
Picifunky: mail.roldax.com doesn't have an A record.  The domain name doesn't point anywhere.20:38
jdenningikonia: I *did* specify repeatedly this was on ubuntu 12.04..but whatever..20:38
funkyPici got it20:39
badomun_win show120:39
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frustrohi 13.04, trying DVD playback, but medibuntu repo is down.20:40
frustroas is gone.20:41
ikoniajdenning: I'm not sure why you are tyring to "win" here - you came in asking for help and have been defensive ever since, submit your patch or not, to who ever you want, I don't care I just tried ot advise you some things to be aware of20:41
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frustroso the .sh file gets a 404. when trying to wget it.20:41
jhutchinsfrustro: Standard mplayer should work.20:42
jdenningikonia: I'm not trying to win, I'm hoping you will realize how much hostility you are showing to someone who came in just asking "who should I talk to about submitting this patch that I think might be useful to people"20:42
jdenningikonia: Thanks for the help anyways20:42
ikoniajdenning: offering advise and making sure they have everything in order is not "hostile"20:42
OerHeksfrustro, use restricted extraś > sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  # and follow the guide > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs20:43
frustroOerHeks, Then open a terminal window and execute:20:43
frustrosudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh20:43
jdenningikonia: As I said, thanks.20:43
frustro404.20:43
frustroThe Medibuntu Project has come to an end20:44
frustroThe Medibuntu repository is unmaintained and offline.20:44
OerHeksfrustro, you do not have that sh file, as medibuntu is down, as you stated20:44
frustroI do the the sh file silly.  what the sh file is trying to wget is no longer there.20:45
frustrothe link you provided to follow no longer works.20:45
OerHeksfrustro, maybe the sh file in medibuntu does not work, i am sure restricted extras does.20:46
ShutemDownsup20:47
frustroOerHeks, I have the restricted extras, but not the dvdread4css, which allows ubuntu to read dvd content.20:48
frustrowait...archive.org here I come!20:48
OerHeksdvdread4, not dvdread4css.20:49
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m_tadeuhi...does ubuntu provide boost pre-compiled headers?21:02
wilee-nileem_tadeu: You might be more detailed with that question.21:07
m_tadeuwilee-nilee: I'd like to know if ubuntu provides a package with pre-compiled headers for the boost libraries21:08
vkrhello21:09
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wilee-nileem_tadeu: I would not know, I was just prompting you for details, for the likely hood of help.21:11
m_tadeuwilee-nilee: thanx :) but  I can't think a way to detail that :) it's pretty straight forward21:12
YokoBR_hey guys, how do i install 64bit wine on ubuntu?21:13
YokoBR_apt-get install wine is installing the 32bit wineserver version21:13
tgm4883YokoBR_, do you really need the 64-bit version of wine?21:14
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YokoBR_yep, tgm4883. The 32bit version doesn't work with pulseaudio as i can see.21:14
tgm4883YokoBR_, doesn't work with pulseaudio? odd21:14
YokoBR_tgm4883, at least there's no such option on winecfg... so i can't run anything21:15
Marleneehow can i connect to anthor ssh server using private key21:16
tom____Hello21:16
njsgMarlenee: you need to upload the public key to the server before connecting21:17
njsgMarlenee: if the server allows public key authentication, the client will try the private keys you have before going for the challenge-response authentication ("password")21:17
njsgMarlenee: there was even a one-liner for that, let me see if I can find it21:17
ace_mecan I fix somehow the broken lines outputed by bash and a sh ? http://imagebin.org/27321321:17
Marleneei sign up in VPS and they just give me private key in format .pem21:18
Marleneei try to add this key in authorized_keys and its not work21:18
njsgon then you need to store the private key locally. that's awkward, I guess, I'd usually expect to have to generate the key pair locally, then upload the public part21:18
njsgMarlenee: if it's a private key, you are supposed to add it locally, not to authorized_keys21:19
njsgauthorized_keys is for the public keys that can be used to log in21:19
Marleneenjsg : i cant log in ??21:19
njsghere I have .ssh/id_rsa, but I have no idea of how to add another key21:19
YokoBR_:(21:21
njsgMarlenee: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2419566/best-way-to-use-multiple-ssh-private-keys-on-one-client21:22
njsgMarlenee: so apparently you can use ssh -i path-to-key ...21:23
njsgMarlenee: but the key you have has .pem, so it's probably in PEM21:23
YokoBR_please, just need to install wine64 again :(21:23
njsgMarlenee: ssh-keygen can convert these, from the manpage seems to be something like "ssh-keygen -i -m PEM"21:24
njsgMarlenee: sorry if some of this gets off, I'm mostly reading it, but I didn't actually test it21:24
njsgMarlenee: oh, it should be "ssh-keygen -i -m PEM -f path-to-key", I suppose it will *output* the result, but dunno21:25
jamescarrhey guys, started getting some issues today21:27
jamescarrFailed to fetch http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/lxc/liblxc0_0.9.0-0ubuntu3.4_amd64.deb  403  Forbidden21:27
jamescarrstarted happening in the last half hour21:27
jamescarrwhat gives!?21:27
Marleneenjsg : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6215614/21:27
tgm4883jamescarr, that sounds like an amazon question21:28
jamescarrtgm4883: eh?21:29
tgm4883oh wait, i just glanced at it21:29
tgm4883Is that in  your sources.list?21:30
njsgMarlenee: yes, that will happen, private keys need to be unreadable by others (ssh is just trying to avoid potentially dangerous scenarios), just do "chmod og-rwx MyKeyPair.pem". Also, it seems you're still using the pem file, did you pass it through ssh-keygen?21:30
jamescarrtgm4883: Im using an official ubuntu ami21:32
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dtcrshrMarlenee: regata é voce?21:33
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tgm4883jamescarr, I'd ask over in #ubuntu-server21:33
jamescarrthx21:33
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arnau_Hi everyone! I need some help, I'm almost there. I have a dual boot win/linuxmint and on windows my NIC speed is 100Mb/s. On linux the NIC speed is set to 10Mb/s. When I try to change it with command "sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full" , it seems to change the NIC's settings, but the wired connection goes down. Does anyone know what should I do?21:35
tgm4883!mint | arnau_21:36
ubottuarnau_: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org21:36
arnau_they sent me here XD21:37
arnau_I was hoping that you could help me21:37
tgm4883arnau_, perhaps you should tell them you are using Linux Mint21:37
njsgarnau_: it's not ubuntu, but a general tip is really: check if it uses the right driver, google for known issues with that card on linux21:37
arnau_yes they know21:37
arnau_well thanks anyway, have fun! =)21:38
LjLarnau_: wait, who sent you herre21:38
arnau_"<morten77> arnau: you can ask in #ubuntu too if you want, I mean it is same thing as mint on that sort of things I think"21:38
tony_stark_markVarnau_:21:39
Marlenee!paste21:39
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:39
tony_stark_markVarnau_: Its all debian based21:39
k1l_well, it says its an "own OS" on their page. so they take support for it. thats it21:39
dtcrshrarnau_: since you already lost the social engeneering telling you are on mint, better bail now :D21:39
fishcookerfishcoo21:39
dtcrshrpeople on spotchat are friendly as well21:39
njsgarnau_: if it works on windows, this is most likely a driver issue, investigate that.21:40
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arnau_I have the right driver. I saw a picture of the connection info from an italian guy: same driver, same everything, except he has "Speed: 100Mb/s" and I have "Speed: 10Mb/s"21:41
arnau_It's driving me nuts XD21:41
myepI am having an issue where my screen freezes on window switch, no dmesg errors, no Xorg errors, no i915_error_state, sound still plays, mouse moves, clock and graphics dont update, need to do a rightAlt+SysRq+k to boot to login screen21:41
arnau_now I was answering to you njsg21:41
Nosophoruswhat's the casual chat for ubuntu users?21:42
njsgarnau_: same kernel version?21:42
Nosophorusi mean to talk about off-topic issues21:42
k1l_!ot | Nosophorus21:42
ubottuNosophorus: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:42
arnau_Don't know njsg21:42
Nosophorusk1l_: thanks!21:42
krullarnau_: use uname -r to get kernal version21:43
arnau_thanks krull. It says "3.5.0-17-generic"21:43
krullarnau_: why are you not up to 3.2.0-53-generic?21:44
njsgarnau_: check that, compare it21:44
mojtabaIs it possible to generate an audio file from a pdf or other text like files?21:44
arnau_Because I'm a newbie krull, that's why XD21:44
k1l_krull: arnau_ njsg because its mint.21:44
krullarnau_: we all started as newbies at one time21:44
k1l_krull: njsg arnau_ and that for they got a own support channel21:44
tgm4883isn't 3.5 > 3.2?21:45
njsgarnau_: you want to compare if the kernel version is the same, if they are then I guess the kernel log is the last resort21:45
k1l_so if you guys want to solve the int issues please got to the mint channels. thanks21:45
njsgand kernels can still have disto-specific patches, different configs...21:45
arnau_oh that's right tgm4883 XD21:45
arnau_k1l_: sorry, I couldn't find any help there21:46
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k1l_arnau_: then try the mint forums21:46
arnau_yep, will do21:46
myepI am having an issue where my screen freezes on window switch, no dmesg errors, no Xorg errors, no i915_error_state, sound still plays, mouse moves, clock and graphics dont update, need to do a rightAlt+SysRq+k to boot to login screen, I can provide any other specifics as needed, ubuntu 12.04LTS, happened since day021:47
arnau_oh, oh! Last question. What does it mean to load a module for a driver?21:48
Enekooshello, I have some litle problem, I search some time for it in internet but not find answer: I use a tablet digital for drawing and 2 monitors, my problem is in te tablet resolution for print is like a 2 monitors, wen drawing a circle screen drawing a elipse (====) not ciercleO21:48
wilee-nileemyep: same thing with a live boot?21:48
njsgarnau_: it means loading the kernel module. nowadays, linux will usually be configured to load modules automatically, but you can still use modprobe manually (and in some cases you *need* to, for some reason)21:49
myepi have not tried a live boot, you suggest I try an ubuntu 12.04 Live session?21:49
jhutchinsEnekoos: That probably depends on what exact make & model tablet it is.21:49
wilee-nileemyep: yes if it works, you can assume driver or install problems at the least, another user is another option.21:50
Enekoosis a trust tablet21:50
Enekoosbut linux not have a litle config file?21:51
myep@wilee-nilee: isnt it odd that I have no error information anywhere? I suspect I will be able to reproduce a crash on a Live CD, but i can try it21:51
Enekooswaltop is very limited21:51
wilee-nileemyep: can we assume your computer is up for this install and desktop hardware wise?21:52
myepwilee-nilee: are you asking if my hardware is modern enough?21:53
vexati0nhi. In Ubuntu 13.04, x64, where are the options for RECEIVING files via bluetooth? I can send them just fine, but how do I receive them?21:54
wilee-nileemyep: It may as simple as a bad install, and yes is the hadware/ram up for the use.21:54
myepwilee-nilee: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2200, Mem:       3203920, Swap:      8000508, clean install, minimal packages added, second rig this has happened on21:55
wilee-nileemyep: your description is missing some pertinent info that you would be asked, for instance hardware and desktop used and any others tried.21:55
SonikkuAmericavexati0n: Switch Bluetooth on, make sure you're visible.21:55
myepwilee-nilee: i have tried all desktops, it is present with all of them21:56
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myepwilee-nilee: can you think of a way to even identify the offending process? I cannot even determine that, top looks fine21:58
mozg_hello guys21:59
mozg_ is anyone running 3.11 ubuntu soucy kernel?21:59
mozg_ I've just installed it and it seems that the following library /lib/modules/3.11.0-12-generic/kernel/drivers/infiniband/core/ib_umad.ko is a 32bit one even though my os and my kernel is 64bit21:59
mozg_could someone please verify that with ldd / file?21:59
OerHeks!saucy | mozg_21:59
ubottumozg_: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.21:59
myepmozg_:why not roll back to a more stable kernel?22:00
wilee-nileemyep: Is this the only freeze up instance?22:00
mozg_myep, I need to test something22:00
mozg_as 3.8 seems to cause me issues22:00
mtongCan anyone help a noob with an xrdp problem?22:00
wilee-nilee!help22:01
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:01
mozg_is anyone running  3.11 kernel from the official repo?22:01
myepwilee-nilee: no it happens intermitantly on multi window switch, i can get it to occur in about 5 min, but under normal operation it happens a few times a day22:01
gasshohow do you get the name of a usb wifi22:01
gasshoplugged in to the computerer22:01
SonikkuAmericagassho: lsusb22:01
njsggassho: what name?22:02
wilee-nileemyep: I would do a memory check from the live cd, might be bad ram, or other hardware, have you confirmed this computer should just run ubuntu?22:03
mtongWhen I connect to my Ubuntu box using remote desktop and then try to connect it to a VPN I get "Not Authorized to control networking" when I do this on the machine directly it works. Im using the same user to log in, in  both instances.22:03
gasshoRealtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter22:03
mtong!help22:03
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:03
mtong!patience22:03
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/22:03
myepwilee-nilee: me and our infastructure guy have run multiple full passes on bad blocks, rand days of memtest, and it was worked on all ubuntus until 12.04LTS22:04
wilee-nileemyep: askubuntu might be a place to see if others have this pro lem with the same setup22:04
wilee-nileemyep: bad blocks, you have any on the hd?22:05
myepwilee-nilee: no problems of any kind on the hardware22:05
fishcookerwhat's should i do when my serial port don't work well .. because i don't get the output here is my log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214857/22:05
wilee-nileemyep: how much ram?22:06
fishcookerfrom ttyS0-3 is not working22:06
myepwilee-nilee: 3GB :( thats all 3 slots (yes i have 3, strange)22:06
fishcookeri think that's driver problem22:07
wilee-nileemyep: I would use htop to see whats running, I use a conky to watch my ram and other stuff, you might have something running the ram high, I also change the swappiness,  but I have a ssd22:09
njsgfishcooker: did you enable the serial line discipline?22:09
njsgfishcooker: dunno if it comes as a module in the ubuntu kernel, but in order to just cat to/from a serial port you need that22:09
mojtabaIs it possible to generate an audio file from a .pdf or other text like files?22:09
myepwilee-nilee: i have 8GB of swap, do you think that is incorrect?22:09
wilee-nileemyep: I just wonder if it is swapping.22:09
njsgmojtaba: what kind of audio file?22:10
mojtabanjsg: something like mp322:10
mojtabaI have some books and I would like to listen to them while I am driving in my car.22:10
njsgmojtaba: but what would the file contain?22:10
myepwilee: wouldnt the screen eventually recover if it was swapping?  Ive let it sit for like 1hr and it never recovers22:10
wilee-nileemyep: not sure what you mean by incorrect, this a 64bit?22:11
myepwilee: plus i can switch to tty1, and the machine is fast and responsive for console tasks22:11
mojtabanjsg: Input file is text, pdf file, and the output is audio file.22:11
myepwilee: yes im running 64bit22:11
njsgmojtaba: but text-to-speech?22:11
mojtabanjsg: something like that.22:11
njsgmojtaba: as in, an audio file where the text is read aloud?22:11
njsgmojtaba: look into festival, a text-to-speech engine22:12
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njsgmojtaba: dunno if they have a specific tool to write to an audio file, but I suppose they'd include that22:12
njsgpdftotext to generate plain text from the text layer of a pdf or tesseract to do good OCR out of images22:12
mojtabanjsg: Is there any tool to convert that text file via cmd?22:13
gartralmojtaba: festival does include the ability to pipe through sox for generating a TTS file in almost any imaginable audio format22:13
mojtabagartral: what is festival?22:14
njsgmojtaba: a text-to-speech engine22:14
gartralmojtaba: festival is a TTS engine, usually it just reads files22:14
wilee-nileemyep: it would recover if whatever is causing it to swap reduced, maybe that is not happening, at this point we are guessing with dichotomies, check what is running with htop in general, and monitor the ram use and swap, would be a good start.22:14
njsgmojtaba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festival_tts22:14
gartralmojtaba: you may want to look at the way the Rockbox guys use it to generate wavs out of text strings..22:15
mojtabanjsg, gartral: thanks22:15
myepwilee: ok ill fire up the live cd, is there any other data you can think of, that I would want to capture in this error state?22:15
mojtabagartral: Do you have any link?22:15
wilee-nileemyep: I rarely use error info, so not realy22:16
fishcookerhow to enable serial line njsg.. please  give me direction22:16
wilee-nileean area I k ow22:16
Tex_Nickubuntu 13.04 : i just acquired a used 1 TB HDD with a few bad sectors ... what's my best bet to map those sectors out ... not a data critical disk & prefer to do it in ubuntu (not windows) ... would SMART automatically do that for me or fdisk, parted, complete format ?22:16
fishcookernjsg how to enable22:16
myepwilee: ok thanks ill do some more investigation22:17
gartralmojtaba: you'll have to dig through http://www.rockbox.org22:17
Tex_Nickalso SMART shows disk to be OK22:17
muhammad-yasin_hallow22:17
wilee-nileemyep: my computers have generally worked out of the box for the last 7 years, so I have  not used errors much is all.22:17
muhammad-yasin_iam from indonesia22:17
fishcookerhello there22:18
Dr_WillisTex_Nick:  the way ive done it in the past (hard core) was to figure out where the bad spots were at. and then partion the disk so the bad area + a lot to either side. was in a partion i never used. ;)22:18
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Dr_WillisSmart results can be  missleading. from the articals ive read in teh past.22:18
wilee-nileeIndonesia-Yasin: Do you need help, this is support.22:18
Indonesia-Yasinyou can help me?22:18
gartralDr_Willis: you know you *could* have manually marked that region as bad >.>22:18
wilee-nilee!details | Indonesia-Yasin22:18
ubottuIndonesia-Yasin: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:18
Dr_Willisgartral:  i dident trust the disk at all. it had a lot of bad stuff at the end. so i chopped it all off.22:19
wilee-nileeIndonesia-Yasin: state the issues to the channel.22:19
Indonesia-Yasinhow?22:19
Dr_Willisin case the bad stuff spreead.22:19
TylertwoI'm on Ubuntu 12.04 using LXDE. Any idea how to prevent Mono from starting automatically when my computer boots?22:19
Indonesia-Yasiniam on ubuntu 13.04 desktop22:19
wilee-nileeIndonesia-Yasin: with your keyboard.22:20
gartralDr_Willis: sounds like a platter crack was developing, I hate when that happens..22:20
wilee-nileelol22:20
Tex_NickDr_Willis : i like that thought, now what's the best utility for finding the exact sectors ? (15 bad sectors)22:20
Dr_WillisTex_Nick:  i think badblocks perhaps.. been ages since ive last done it.22:20
fishcookeri've used minicom / picocom to check my serial port on ttyS0-3 but there is no output22:21
YokoBR@austin987, i think i'll do a fresh install of ubuntu... now i'm getting wine: failed to initialize: /usr/local/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory , after uninstalling wine22:21
YokoBRto reinstall it22:21
Tex_NickDr_Willis : thanks my friend ... you've pointed me in a good direction ... i'll head that way ;-)22:21
SonikkuAmerica!isitout22:21
ubottuThe 19th release of Ubuntu, Saucy Salamander, will be out in October of 2013.22:21
fishcookerhow to check that driver for serial installed properly22:22
fishcooker?22:22
YokoBR@austin987, got worse: wine: failed to initialize: /usr/local/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory22:22
Dr_Willisfishcooker:  i recall if you dont have teh  port/bits/rate/xon/xoff settings just right - you wont see anything22:22
YokoBR@austin987, i've uninstalled, removed, purged and deleted everything related to wine22:23
YokoBRto reinstall22:23
njsgfishcooker: if it's available as a module, "modprobe serport" as root should load it22:23
YokoBRbut when i try to install from ppa, it only downloads 21 kb, and gives that error22:23
fishcookerbut i've have tried the same way on 12.04 yesterday now im on 10.0422:23
YokoBRwine: failed to initialize: /usr/local/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory22:23
YowlIs there a difference between disabling swap and mounting it as a ram disk?22:24
Dr_WillisYowl:  it dosent make much sence to put swap on a ram disk.22:25
vee_hey guys, my wifi doesn't seem to be working. i checked out ifconfig, and phy0 doesn't seem to be there. i tried to do ifconfig phy0, and it says there is no such device. i checked rfkill and it says phy0 is not soft blocked. ideas? its a ath9k wifi card22:26
njsgvee_: ifconfig -a22:26
mtongQ: When I connect to my Ubuntu box using remote desktop and then try to connect it to a VPN I get "Not Authorized to control networking" when I do this on the machine directly it works. Im using the same user to log in, in  both instances.22:26
njsgvee_: ifconfig only shows devices that are up22:26
YowlDr_Willis: So it would be the same thing?22:26
n-iCehi22:27
CarlFKwhat is the nifty command that will dump the metadata from an image file?22:27
vee_oh i see....wlan0 shows up22:27
njsgvee_: with wifi my first suspect would be firmware, check the kernel log (dmesg) for possible firmware-related errors22:27
Dr_WillisYowl:  it would not be the same thing. why would you think that22:27
njsgCarlFK: EXIF? if so exiftool22:27
Dr_WillisYowl:  if you dont want to use swap - disable it.22:27
njsgCarlFK: but it depends on the image format and metadata format22:27
vee_thats strange, njsg, wpagui doesn't seem to find my adapter22:27
CarlFKnjsg sounds like it - thanks22:27
njsgvee_: check lspci -k to see if it has a kernel module loaded for it and check dmesg for errors. which card is it?22:28
chaotixhey guys...  in what folder can i find the help files used in yelp?22:28
njsgoh ath9k. you may need external firmware, yeah22:28
YowlDr_Willis: Because., swap is ram on drive, and ram drive is ram used as a hard drive, so wouldn't it being going full circle, putting ram work on ram?22:28
vee_njsg: what external firmware? i've installed wireless-tools22:28
Dr_WillisYowl: thats not technically true. id go read up on the various swap howtos and guides and docs.22:29
chaotixdoc w, do you know?22:29
njsgvee_: dunno what the package name is in ubuntu, but linux wireless drivers frequently need external firmware that is not included due to license issues22:29
Dr_Willischaotix:  /usr/share/docs or  the man page dirs.. i cant even recall what yelp is22:29
vee_njsg: was reading some stuff on debian and it says it should be fine...hm ill look into it22:31
YowlDr_Willis: In the end though, swap on ram drive would just be a less efficient way of disabling swap?22:31
njsgdebian, fine without external firmware packages? mr "DFSG" debian...22:32
Dr_WillisYowl:  more overhead - so its pointless. Unless you had one of those weird ram-card-drive things that  came out like 10 yrs ago. ;)22:32
Dr_Willisand its not the same as disabling swap22:32
Dr_WillisI seem to recall benchmarks a few years back where  having a little swap helped the system  even with a lot of ram. but this was 5+ yrs ago. so theres been a lot of kernel work since then22:33
Yowl Dr_Willis If one has enough ram, there is no need for swap, right?22:33
njsgYowl: no, it will be an effective way of increasing thrashing. if you want to disable on-disk swap, disable swap completely22:33
gartralDr_Willis: it's still the case, trust me22:33
Dr_WillisYowl:  i have a 8gb system with no swap - becaue i frogot to partion for it. but  these days if you want to use Hibernate/suspend you DO want swap = ram+a bit more22:33
Dr_Willisgartral:  ;) i cant even recall how they benchmarked it.22:33
Dr_Willisbbl22:34
gartralYowl: wrong, you'll need swap if you want hibernation or do a LOT of compilation work22:34
YowlDr_Willis: Can I set swap to be disabled except for hibernation?22:34
njsggartral: you don't need swap to hibernate22:34
njsgyou can hibernate to files, IIRC22:34
Yowlmjsg or in other words, it makes its own swap if swap is disabled?22:35
Yowlfor hibernation22:35
gartralnjsg: swap is any file or partition that acts as a hdd buffer for ram, so, yes, you do need swap22:35
Yowlgartral: That is what swap is, but if you have enough ram then you dont need the buffer, presumably22:37
skinuxDo all screenlets have to be written in Python?22:38
njsgYowl: I think gartral just wanted to exercise some pedantry on how the hibernation file is used to store memory contents22:38
YowlOk so if I disable swap, will hibernation just make its own space and still do fine?22:38
OerHeksYowl, no.22:39
njsgYowl: you probably need to provide explicit settings for hibernation and resume22:39
YowlOerHeks: Then is there a way to disable swap except for hibernation?22:39
Yowlnjsg So there is?22:39
njsgYowl: don't enable it, I guess you can remove the swap partition from fstab22:39
njsgdepends on how ubuntu finds swap partitions to enable, though22:39
ajith_kanuhad a windows OS.while installing ubuntu to dual boot accidently deleted  windows.How to recover important files that was on windows? please22:40
njsgajith_kanu: how did you "delete windows"?22:40
OerHeksYowl, maybe you can play around with swapiness, set to 0  > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq22:40
qinYowl: man swapoff; man pm-action22:41
OerHeksqin +122:41
ajith_kanunjsg:It was my friends problem.I think heautomatically installed ubuntu on the entire disk22:41
qinYowl: Why 2-3 gig of swap does bother you anyway?22:41
elGr33k0Hello22:42
Enekooshello, any know how to change resolution for digitizing tablet ?22:43
michael_#tm12922:43
Yowlqin swap will slow my system down compared to pure ram22:43
qinYowl: huh?22:44
elGr33k0@Enekoos what do you mean digitizing tablet?22:44
qinYowl: Headbutt person who told you this22:44
Yowlqin: Hard drives are slower then Ram- Not just a urban legend22:44
njsgYowl: if your system slows down because of swap, why do you think disabling it will do any better?22:45
Yowlforces the system to use ram22:45
njsgwhy do you think the system is using swap in the first place?22:45
njsgYowl: if you think *preemptive* swapping is happening a lot, tune swappiness22:45
ricardobarbosamsanyone deploy proxy-arp in ubuntu?22:45
njsgbut if the system is using swap because it's out of ram, disabling swap won't do any good22:45
ricardobarbosams13.0422:45
njsgbuy more ram™22:45
Yowlnjsg I know that22:46
elGr33k0Yowl you can always check what other processes are running22:47
elGr33k0and close them22:47
qinYowl: How much RAM do you have? And how much swap do you use on day to day basis? You can also suspend with write to RAM, unlike hibernate...22:47
EnekooselGr33k0:  https://www.google.es/search?q=digitizing+tablet&safe=off&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Kt1VUvXuFIaU0AXhv4HgBQ&ved=0CEUQsAQ&biw=1231&bih=912&dpr=122:48
YowlWell I do have a issue where suspend won't wake up sometimes, forcing me to do a hard reset22:49
Yowlqin: How do I choose to suspend to ram?22:49
qinYowl: pm-suspend22:51
Yowlqin: pm?22:51
loahow i can set affinity on permanent mode for application?22:51
loafor example dota 222:51
qinYowl: power manager22:52
loarunning from steam22:52
Yowlqin: Run that as a terminal command?22:53
qinloa: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html22:53
qinYowl: sure, yet you just said that there is some bug with your suspend22:54
loaqin, i understand how set affinity, i can't uderstand how i can set affinity for dota running from steam22:54
qinloa: you need id of process, from htop i.e.22:55
loaqin, i want to do this automatically22:55
loai thought about script for crontab22:56
qinloa: pgrep may help22:56
loait will try to find dota process and set affinity22:56
Yowlqin: Sometimes I have wordpad files with unsaved content when my PC goes into suspension, could that be why I can't wake it up? And sometimes when I can't wake it up, it doesn't seem like its fully suspended in the first place since the power button isnt flashing and the fans are running, but I still can't get anything to appear on the screen22:58
daniel1I'm trying to get my bcm4311 wireless chipset to work in an hp pavillion laptop.. but apt-get freezes on the message "DKMS: install completed" for both wl and b43.. any help?22:58
daniel1in the short-term, that also means I'm stuck with "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg)" errors with apt-get..22:59
YowlOerHeks: Sometimes I have wordpad files with unsaved content when my PC goes into suspension, could that be why I can't wake it up? And sometimes when I can't wake it up, it doesn't seem like its fully suspended in the first place since the power button isnt flashing and the fans are running, but I still can't get anything to appear on the screen23:00
daniel1anyone?23:00
msxdaniel1: just ask, if anoyane can answer your enquiere, will do23:01
daniel1I'm trying to get my bcm4311 wireless chipset to work in an hp pavillion laptop.. but apt-get freezes on the message "DKMS: install completed" for both wl and b43.. any help?23:02
daniel1in the short-term, that also means I'm stuck with "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg)" errors with apt-get..23:02
msx*enquirie*enquiry23:02
MosecoI have ubuntu 12.04 installed on a drive and windows 8.1 installed on a separate drive (installed ubuntu then windows 8 later). What is the best way to set up GRUB to dualboot?23:03
Ben64!grub | Moseco23:03
ubottuMoseco: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub223:03
msxdaniel1: ok, this /var/lib/dpkg is a temp file set by dpkg to tell the system that a package management action is ongoing, that's why you receive the lock23:03
mtongQ: When I connect to my Ubuntu box using remote desktop and then try to connect it to a VPN I get "Not Authorized to control networking" when I do this on the machine directly it works. Im using the same user to log in, in  both instances.23:04
msxdaniel1: please open a console and do: $ ps aux | grep dpkg23:04
Mosecoubottu: Thank you23:04
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)23:04
daniel1thanks msx, I had to ctrl-c apt-get because it hung when installing wireless drivers.  so its ok to delete /var/lib/dpkg?23:04
msxdaniel1: you can kill the process using the command: $ sudo kill -9 {number of dpkg process}23:05
msxdaniel1: it isn't actually the best thing to do but yeah, this is GNU+Linux so it won't make any harm23:05
daniel1ok, it is a directory tho..23:05
Ben64yeah dont delete that directorty23:06
msxdaniel1: what is really strange is the dpkg freeze when installing the wireless card module...23:06
daniel1would it not just be better to delete /var/lib/dpkg/lock?23:06
Ben64stop trying to delete stuff23:06
msxlol23:06
qinlol23:06
Ben64the problem that error message is saying is that something else is using apt23:06
daniel1hehehhe. yeah I'm old enough to be a responsible  sudo rm'er..23:07
msxdaniel1: as a rule of dumb NEVER ever delete anything before being completely sure you won't miss that23:07
Enekoosubuntu use Xorg.conf or other file? I search for file to configuration to digitalizer tablet23:07
daniel1msx: you just said it was fine to delete it :-P anyway I'm pretty sure there is nothing else using dpkg, and that I am the one who was responsible for control-c'ing apt-get, causing the lock to not be removed23:07
qin!xorg.conf23:07
ubottuThe /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.23:07
overlook..23:08
YowlSometimes I have wordpad files with unsaved content when my PC goes into suspension, could that be why I can't wake it up? And sometimes when I can't wake it up, it doesn't seem like its fully suspended in the first place since the power button isnt flashing and the fans are running, but I still can't get anything to appear on the screen23:08
msxdaniel1: btw, the only thing i can think of is rebooting and then on a freshly booted system try to install the driver again23:08
msxdaniel1: yes but i mean anything inside the directory, usually the lock file23:08
bbtechIs there a list somewhere of possible dot files that can go in the home directory?23:09
daniel1bbtech: anything can put a hidden (dot file as you call it) file or folder in the home directory23:09
Enekoosok gin but no solve my problem :( where is the config?23:09
bbtechdaniel1, yeah, I meant that would be used by a program.23:10
YowlIs there a way to add suspend to ram in my system option?23:10
bbtechlike, I noticed someone had an .aliases file and I then wondered if that was valid and what other files are valid23:10
daniel1bbtech: and? did the file not say what it was used for and why?23:11
bbtechdaniel1, well, it had aliases in it...but that doesn't answer my question of what other files could I create?23:11
bbtechdaniel1, for example, I've been creating a file for my aliases and using source to load them...didn't know about .aliases23:12
bbtechso how can I know about the other dot files that I can possibly use?23:12
Sean121Dot files can be created and used like regular files23:13
bbtechI'm wondering if any file in /etc can be replaced with a ~/.file23:13
bbtechSean121, not what I'm asking. I'm wondering which dot files have a special purpose.23:14
Tylertwobbtech, are you familiar with "ls -a"?23:15
bbtechTylertwo, not all files are created by default23:15
bbtechTylertwo, I currently don't have an .aliases file. Unless someone tells me that .aliases has a special purpose I might never know to create it.23:16
Tylertwobbtech, gotcha.. i've never really thought along those lines tbh23:16
daniel1bbtech - presumably any hidden file has a special purpose, or else it owuldnt have been created in the first place… stricly speaking, users rarely have to create hidden files, programs mostly do that automaticly, unless a manual for a program states otherwise. but to the best of my knowledge, there is no repository for manually-created hidden files, nor could there be, since any software that someone writes could require a user to do that...23:17
bbtechdaniel1, that does make sense. Doesn't make it easier for me to know about specific files though :-/23:18
daniel1heh...23:18
jribbbtech: you learn about dotfiles by reading documentation23:19
daniel1bbtech: off the top of my head, the only example I can think of is ssh asking a user to move a newly-created private key for authentication into the .ssh directory… or .htaccess for configuring apache directives.. the uses are too varied and unique to catalog in one place :-)23:19
bbtechIs there even a way I can prove that the .aliases file would be used without trial and error? or maybe it is .alias?23:19
jribbbtech: it's sourced in your ~/.bashrc23:19
bbtechjrib, what is sourced?23:20
daniel1bash configur settings, that's another I suppose..23:20
jribbbtech: ~/.aliasrc23:20
bbtechjrib, oh, it's not in my .bashrc. Does that mean .aliases or .aliasrc wouldn't work?23:20
jribbbtech: check your .bashrc.  ~/.aliasrc may just be something I created.  But there is some file sourced by default with "alias" in its name23:21
skinuxThis could be silly, but what 'hook' (if any) would be needed to run a script/app when screen lock is deactivated?23:21
bbtechjrib, that "default" thing is what I'm trying to figure out...just magically sourced?23:21
jribbbtech: read your ~/.bashrc23:22
bbtechjrib, I have, alias* isn't in there23:22
jribbbtech: then you aren't using the default .bashrc from /etc/skel/.bashrc in a standard ubuntu system23:22
bbtechjrib, my .bashrc is sourcing all files in my ~/dotfiles/source directory23:22
TylertwoWhy would you want an .aliasrc file?23:23
bbtechjrib, true, I'm on debian :-)23:23
jribbbtech: that's something you setup; it's not standard23:23
bbtechjrib, correct23:23
Ben64bbtech: then why are you filling up #ubuntu? :|23:23
bbtechjrib, if I understand that means .aliases would not work for me?23:23
XabstHi, I upgraded my kernel to 3.11 and installed new ATI GFX drivers, and installed MATE desktop environment and now my X server gets seg fault. I'm on commandline irssi and I have no idea how to fix this :(23:23
jribbbtech: this channel is for ubuntu support ;)   But just source whatever file you want in your .bashrc for your aliases.  It's purely an organizational preference to have aliases in a separate file instead of directly in ~/.bashrc23:23
Enekooshow can I see were is an usb element in a /dev/ items?23:23
Ben64Enekoos: huh?23:24
Ben64Xabst: mate is not supported here and is an evil zombie23:24
Xabstdamn23:24
EnekoosI try configure a digitalizer tablet for usb23:24
Xabstbut i uninstalled it already Ben64, still getting errors23:24
Enekoosand need were is in /dev/23:24
deckard_hello, are there any cool themed terminals i can DL?23:25
Enekoosher name in to /dev/ items23:25
Ben64Enekoos: not sure what you mean by that, but try dmesg and/or lsusb23:25
Xabstcan you tell me how to downgrade my kernel back to 3.8?23:25
daniel1folks, I'm having a serious problem with apt-get hanging when I try to install broadcom wireless drivers. right now, I'm stuck in a loop where if I quit it, I have to run dpkg -c before I can do anything with apt, and then it just tries to install it again...23:25
Enekoosmm is good idea I go for searh in this thanks23:25
bbtechjrib, in debian the default .bashrc looks for ~/.bash_aliases23:25
jribbbtech: in ubuntu too23:25
SirFunk_Is there a special channel for 13.10 talk? I seem to have  lost my notifications, they show up as ugly blue boxes now23:26
jribSirFunk_: #ubuntu+123:26
bbtechjrib, I like the idea of putting all of my .whatever files in ~/dotfiles/sources. I'm going to stick with that23:26
bbtechthanks for the help!23:26
Ben64bbtech: next time go to #debian23:26
SirFunk_jrib: thanks23:26
bbtech:-)23:26
Ben64Xabst: well i'm not sure what all you changed23:27
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Enekoosinput:          WALTOP     Graphics Tablet  as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.3/1-1.3.2/1-1.3.2:1.0/input/input1423:27
Enekoos:/23:27
XabstBen64: neither am I :( any idea how to install kernel 3.8 instead of this 3.11?23:28
Xabsti guess my only options are to revert my changes and I uninstalled the GFX drivers and the MATE desktop23:28
Avi31hya23:32
Psil0Cybinwhats up man23:33
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EnekoosBen64: any other idea?23:34
Enekoosnow tablet working but if I dont know her /dev/ I  can make .conf23:35
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r0000t0nyx?23:39
TylertwoI'm running Ubuntu 12.04 with LXDE and I noticed this process running: /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1. It appears to be for Gnome, not LXDE, so would it be ok to terminate it?23:41
pentesterI just installed squid on a home server. I can see that the squid process is allocated more RAM as I browse. Will the pages remain cached if the server reboots?23:42
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skinuxSquid is an IDS for 'home users' isn't it?23:47
xatr0zskinux: more a caching proxy23:48
xatr0znot really useful at mosts homes i think23:49
xatr0zbrowsercaches work faster23:49
rrmcan you guys help me disable the touchpad on my thinkpad but not the pointer?23:53
jorb hi folks .. anyone know of a method to create a mock video device that is just a repeat of an X1123:53
jorbdisplay? like to create a loop-back webcam of the desktop environment?23:53
jorbi'm looking at webcam studio .. looks a little sketchy23:53
repudiateHow do I create a desktop shortcut for a program, say Chrome.23:54
tree_My sound keeps crapping out.23:55
tree_Boo!23:55
xatr0zrepudiate: open the program, and drag the launchericon from the bar to the left onto the desktop23:55
repudiatexatr0z: Thanks.23:57
rrmcan you guys help me disable the touchpad on my thinkpad but not the pointer?  anyone?23:57
repudiatexatr0z: I can't do that.23:57
repudiatexatr0z: Ubuntu doesn't let you drag icons from the launcher.23:58
tree_can anyone help me fix my sound23:58
tree_?23:58
tree_Pretty please?23:58
Tylertworrm, first type "xinput" into a console23:58
kingnick42tree_, what is wrong with it?23:58
xatr0zrepudiate: sorry its not from the bar, but from the dash23:58
rrmdone23:59
rrmTylertwo: done23:59
tree_I lose all sound after the computer wakes up from sleeping23:59
repudiatexatr0z: How do you drag it from there?23:59
Tylertworrm, One of the items listed should be touchpad, enter xinput set-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 023:59
Tylertworrm, replacing "11" with the number of the touchpad23:59
rrmTylertwo: 12 is on mine... yey23:59

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