[00:04] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> lag or did it get quiet?
[00:06] <monkeyjuice> i was taking a nap dont know
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> wake up! :)
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> been getting a lot of lag on freenode lately. Not sure what the deal is.
[00:07] <monkeyjuice> good here
[00:10] <Scunizi> cd ~/.qgis2/
[00:10] <Scunizi> ls
[00:11] <kostkon> Scunizi, wrong text field :P
[00:11] <Scunizi> kostkon: yep
[00:13] <CoderGirl42> when i log out of my user the login screen automatically logs me in after 30 seconds. is there a way to disable that?
[00:16] <jfmario> is there anything better than everpad for syncing evernote on ubuntu? anyone know of any evernote plans for linux?
[00:18] <edge226> what kernel does ubuntu 12.04 come with?
[00:18] <Ben64> newer installs of 12.04 have raring's kernel
[00:19] <edge226> Ben64: which means?
[00:19] <Ben64> which means the answer to your question is "it depends"
[00:20] <cjwelborn> i have the latest update on raring and i'm on 3.11 , but you may not be. (i downloaded the dev version)
[00:20] <edge226> Ben64: well which one comes on the livecd?
[00:21] <Ben64> 12.04.what
[00:21] <edge226> 12.04.3
[00:21] <Ben64> i'd imagine it'd be raring's kernel on there then..
[00:21] <Ben64> !info linux-image
[00:22] <kostkon> jfmario, http://insights.ubuntu.com/news/creating-evernote-on-ubuntu-for-smartphones/
[00:22] <edge226> k cool that one will probably work.
[00:22] <OerHeks> !info linux-image precise
[00:23] <acidrainjr> hello does anyone know what chat room to go to for support on sparkylinux
[00:23] <OerHeks> only with backports i think, Ben64
[00:23] <kostkon> OerHeks, nope
[00:23] <kostkon> OerHeks, 12.04.3 iso comes with raring stack
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> acidrainjr, I don't see a specific chanel ##linux is a general channel if you are registered.
[00:26] <OerHeks> acidrainjr, http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=sparky
[00:26] <acidrainjr>  well there are certian rooms for the distros and i need to find one for sparkylinux
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> acidrainjr, look on the web
[00:27] <edge226> acidrainjr: check there site, it may be on another IRC server.
[00:27] <Ben64> acidrainjr: well its not #ubuntu , maybe you shouldn't use a distro so small if you need specific support
[00:27] <PimpSmurf> I am in heap big doo doo. I made a backup of an lv snapshot of my root folder and my /boot (which seems to have been in root anyway)
[00:28] <qin> acidrainjr: http://sparkylinux.org/forum/ ask there?
[00:28] <PimpSmurf> I'm trying to restore grub so I can boot but when I try and reboot, it drops me to a grub partition and I can't type "boot" because it says I need a kernel.
[00:28] <acidrainjr> well its just one problem im having the rst i was able to fix but this idk how
[00:28] <PimpSmurf> Was I suppose to DD the /dev/sda1 boot partition (the ~256M partition)? Is there any way for me to recover?
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> PimpSmurf, if it was the boot partition yes
[00:29] <Jordan_U> PimpSmurf: You should never use dd to try to restore grub. What guide were you following?
[00:29] <PimpSmurf> by boot partition, do you mean /boot or something else? I have /boot. I don't have something else.
[00:29] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: You should never use dd to try to restore grub. Use grub-install to install grub.
[00:29] <Ben64> Jordan_U: not always true, you can back up the mbr and restore it using dd
[00:29] <PimpSmurf> Jordan_U: I'm talking about dd if=/dev/sda1 of=boot-backup.bin
[00:30] <xirre> If a filetype on Ubuntu has no file extension, can it be a security risk still? (In terms of viruses and other bad things)
[00:30] <PimpSmurf> I have the partitions recreated and the root filesystem untar'd, but I can't get grub to boot after doing a chroot update-grub
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, I know the answer was should they have copied the sda1, at 256 MB looks like a boot partition is all.
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  in general linux dosent care about the extensions at all.
[00:30] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: That is not the answer.
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  i dont see why it would be 'more' of a security risk at all
[00:31] <PimpSmurf> xirre: yes a program or other executable could have no extention at all
[00:31] <PimpSmurf> xirre: or could be called .txt or .avi if you are in a shell. don't execute untrusted programs, no matter their extention.
[00:31] <edge226> where are the checksums for the images?
[00:31] <Ben64> !md5 | edge226
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> wine is setup to double check that that any windows.exe has the executable bit as a 'slight' bit of added security
[00:32] <Jordan_U> PimpSmurf: This method is the most reliable and least prone to user error: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Mine was a general answer I made only one, I know grub, it was directed at if you save a OS you should save all of it, I did not say this was a grub recovery answer.
[00:33] <Jordan_U> PimpSmurf: You backed up the wrong sector (should have been the MBR), but even then, the best way to install grub is via grub-install, not by backing up boot sectors as there are many factors that need to be taken into account (possible changed partition numbering and writes to the embedding area among them).
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> PimpSmurf, follow Jordan_U they are the one of the best at this stuff.
[00:34] <xirre> Is there anyway to lock off a folder from the rest of the computer? So that all files in there can only access specific programs?
[00:35] <Jordan_U> xirre: You mean can only be accessed by other programs?
[00:35] <PimpSmurf> Jordan_U: I'll give it one more shot. I did most of that. I'm installing to a raid virtual drive so I'm not sure if that changes things.
[00:35] <xirre> Here's a scenario.
[00:36] <Jordan_U> PimpSmurf: What do you mean by "virtual drive"? Is this FakeRAID, MDRAID, or Hardware Raid? Are you using a virtual machine or bare metal?
[00:37] <xirre> I have a program that wants to access the root folder. But its files that it wants to access are in /home/user/ProgramFIles/application.ext . So it doesn't really need to go browsing through root. It just needs to only be able to check ProgramFiles.
[00:38] <xirre> How do I make all the applications in that folder only have the ability to view/access certain contents? Kind of like a way from preventing a program from wiping your hard drive or going into private sections of your hard drive to retrieve important data.
[00:38] <Jordan_U> xirre: What do you mean by "wants to access the root folder"? What program is this? What is your end goal?
[00:39] <xirre> To enclose off a folder so the applications in it don't harm my computer (Because it's someone elses folder.)
[00:39] <xirre> Like how non administrative users can't view root! That's a good example.
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | xirre
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  learn the basic permissions system., then if you need finer control theres the ACL stuff. (which i never really use)
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> !acl
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> not even sure what factoid is for it. if any
[00:41] <Jordan_U> xirre: Why not run this application as an unprivileged user? Can you please answer my other questions?
[00:41] <blackkitty> The touchpad for a lenovo x230 was working after an install of 12.04 x64, but after an update and reboot, the touchpad stopped working.  I have tried downgrading to an older kernel (3.2.something from 3.5.0-23-generic) but that didn't work.  gpointing-device-settings does not have the 'disable' checkbox set (so it should be enabled).  Any suggestions on how to enable this touchpad?  Any suggestions on where to look or what else to do?
[00:41] <xirre> DreamDaemon - I'm using it to run servers. Why?
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> blackkitty, Did the update include a kernel, and if so have you tried the one that worked from the grub menu?
[00:42] <xirre> Users can upload their files but currently I'm only allowing 4 file types. .dmb .rsc .txt and .sav
[00:42] <xirre> I want to allow them to do what they want with it while also not putting myself at risk.
[00:42] <xirre> And in terms of file permissions, that involves chmod right?
[00:43] <blackkitty> wilee-nilee, yes, sorry.  I forget which exactly were installed (I can check if you like) but they were both 3.2.something and I booted into them both without success
[00:43] <blackkitty> (There were two different 3.2.somthing kernels installed)
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> blackkitty, Cool, saying a update and "something" is rather vague is all, have you looked on askubuntu for answers?
[00:45] <Jordan_U> xirre: If you're allowing them to upload files which are in an area where they might be executed by any user other than themselves you have big security issues already, which are not helped by your limit on extentions / file types.
[00:46] <comodo_dragon> bocaneri
[00:46] <xirre> Soo.. Where should I put them then?
[00:46] <blackkitty> wilee-nilee, http://askubuntu.com/questions/266717/lenovo-x230-trackpad-stopped-working
[00:46] <blackkitty> 0 answers
[00:46] <Jordan_U> xirre: If you're only allowing them to upload files to their own home directory, and they're unpriviliged users, then you're fine.
[00:46] <xirre> This is how it works..
[00:47] <PimpSmurf> Jordan_U: My bios boot partition wasn't set to the correct type =*(
[00:47] <xirre> The server is ran in /home/xirre/Desktop/Hosting/World Control
[00:47] <PimpSmurf> Jordan_U: Thanks for the help. It seems to be booted now! :D
[00:47] <xirre> In World Control is a foldr named Servers
[00:47] <Jordan_U> PimpSmurf: You're welcome.
[00:47] <xirre> In servers are their usernames.
[00:47] <xirre> And in their username folder are their folders of the servers they want hosted.
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> blackkitty, Is that your post?
[00:47] <xirre> In those folders are their files.
[00:48] <xirre> I need to lock off their Usernames folder.
[00:48] <Jordan_U> xirre: Then you're done as far as the uploading of files goes, now you should concentrate on ensuring that these users really are properly isolated and unable to access things they shouldn't have access to.
[00:48] <Jordan_U> xirre: Don't think about locking their home directory, think about restricting their permissions and abilities as users.
[00:48] <xirre> That's where I need help with. Been looking around a lot lately on how to put a wall on each folder.
[00:50] <Jordan_U> xirre: Do you understand the difference?
[00:50] <SteveH_> I clobbered myself by not thinking thru a rm -r /var/lib/* command. I reinstalled 12.04, and have slowly built back up. However, my Unity sidebar has a problem whereby some of the icons do not show. The pop-out names are there, but no icon. Missing icons include terminal, BackinTime, Workspace Switcher, System Monitor and Trash. They work, but are invisible.
[00:50] <blackkitty> wilee-nilee, no.  3.2.0-23-generic and 3.2.0-35-generic are the ones I tried
[00:50] <xirre> Difference betweeen?
[00:50] <xirre> Locking and restricting?
[00:51] <Jordan_U> xirre: The difference between trying to "restrict their home directory" (which doesn't make much sense) and trying to restrict their users.
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> 's stuffblackkitty, Use with caution, but here is a lenovo PPA, if you are not served by this you can use ppa-purge to remove it and all it's part generally. https://launchpad.net/~jamesf/+archive/lenovofixes
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> blackkitty, Above for you the copy paste put letters before you nick is all
[00:53] <xirre> Not really. They still need to be able to create their own files in their folder. I was thinking about preventing the write function with chmod but.. I think that would prevent them from writing inside their own folder..
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> blackkitty, In general I am seeing people not happy with that trackpad in multiple OS's on the web.
[00:54] <Samizdatguy> Hey all, I'm trying to manually install an hp printer driver because their install program keeps crapping out.
[00:54] <xirre> And not only that, they're not connected via users. The World Control folder contains a program (Like an operating system) that controls everything.
[00:54] <Samizdatguy> But, I can't get it to select the exact plugin I need.
[00:54] <blackkitty> wilee-nilee, this is a single boot system.  How do I add the ppa and then grab the appropriate packages?
[00:55] <xirre> Through World Control they can upload and delete their servers. So world control needs to be able to write to their folder.. Hmm..
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> Samizdatguy, You tried the drivers in printer?
[00:55] <blackkitty> single boot, as in only linux is installed
[00:55] <Samizdatguy> The drivers in the Printer, wilee-nilee?
[00:55] <fahadash> !java
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> blackkitty, The PPA tells you how to install it, just run a update and upgrade I would assume.
[00:55] <Martinlemaitre> g
[00:55] <Martinlemaitre> Anyone here
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> Samizdatguy, Open printer and see if it finds the drivers or has them listed.
[00:56] <Samizdatguy> Oh yeah, their automated install keeps crapping out.
[00:56] <Jordan_U> xirre: Does the "World Control Server" ever execute anything found in user's directories?
[00:56] <Martinlemaitre> anyone mind walking through something with an ubuntu noob
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | blackkitty be aware of this
[00:56] <Samizdatguy> That's why I want to install them manually.
[00:57] <blackkitty> ok, thanks wilee-nilee
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> Samizdatguy, Use nicks here, and who is their?
[00:57] <Martinlemaitre> anyone mind walking through something with an ubuntu noob
[00:57] <kostkon> !ask | Martinlemaitre
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> !details | Martinlemaitre ask the question
[00:57] <Martinlemaitre> how do i install the packages on the !java link
[00:58] <Martinlemaitre> i never installed anything on here
[00:58] <Samizdatguy> HP, wilee-nilee, the printer manufacturer.
[00:58] <hoverboard> !java
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Martinlemaitre, what jave link?
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> java*
[00:58] <fahadash> !java | Martinlemaitre
[00:58] <Martinlemaitre> that one above
[00:58] <Martinlemaitre> i clicked there...
[00:58] <Martinlemaitre> i dont know how to install the damn package..
[00:58] <Martinlemaitre> and i ask that and you tell me to just go there again
[00:58] <Martinlemaitre> it just says
[00:58] <Martinlemaitre> choose an application
[00:59] <manish> hi
[00:59] <Martinlemaitre> and i dont know what application to use!
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Samizdatguy, Have you tried the drivers in the repo from the printer app, if there are any?
[00:59] <Martinlemaitre> sigh, ubuntu u r pissing me off
[00:59] <xirre> Jordan_U: It only executes the start up procedure. Everything from then on is ran by the program that is hosted by my server.
[00:59] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: I guess you are pretty stressed out
[00:59] <Martinlemaitre> i am just gonna go install windows 7...
[00:59] <Martinlemaitre> this stuff is too complicateds
[01:00] <xirre> DreamDaemon is a program that hosts games. I'm running a small business to contribute to the development community by hosting servers for multiple people.
[01:00] <Samizdatguy> wilee-nilee: Are you reading what I write?  Yes, there's a problem with their install script, I think. This is why I want to install it manually.
[01:00] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, which version of the jdk?
[01:00] <kostkon> Martinlemaitre, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware
[01:00] <Martinlemaitre> whatever one i need to write java programs..
[01:00] <xirre> And World Control is hosted by DreamDaemon. When a user clicks Start Server, World Control runs a shell command, "DreamDaemon [PATH] [PORT] [OPTIONS]"
[01:01] <hoverboard> pepee stop ya trollin
[01:01] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: I didn't believe what you said about the help link and I was right... You are looking for a "quick"  or a command with switches that you can run and get things done without having to read
[01:01] <kostkon> Martinlemaitre, you need first to learn how to install apps in ubuntu
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> blackkitty, No problem, generally we don't advise PPA's here, so I included the ppa-purge info so you are fully orientated for problems if anymore arise.
[01:01] <pepee> hoverboard, ??
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[01:01] <Martinlemaitre> .why is everything so confusig
[01:01] <Martinlemaitre> sigh
[01:01] <Martinlemaitre> it was never like this with bill
[01:01] <xirre> Jordan_U: Did you get all that?
[01:01] <fahadash> hoverboard: Are you from jax ?
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> Samizdatguy, Yes I have read what you have posted it is confusing and most have no nick, so chill, and be clear.
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> it pays to learn your tools
[01:02] <AmarandaX> Martinlemaitre: I would recommend a google search for How to's.  There are several really good ones for how to install on ubuntu/how to install java...etc...
[01:02] <Martinlemaitre> software centre isnt showing me java
[01:03] <kostkon> Martinlemaitre, search for openjdk. it's good enough for the majority of cases
[01:03] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: http://tinyurl.com/lsbompl
[01:03] <Samizdatguy> wilee-nilee: HP is telling me this as it attempts to download and install its own drivers: Checking for network connection... Downloading plug-in from: None
[01:04] <AmarandaX> it won't Martinlemaitre....you need two things to write with java.  The JDK and the JRE
[01:04] <Martinlemaitre> ffs
[01:04] <Martinlemaitre> how do i get those?
[01:04] <AmarandaX> Martinlemaitre: are you following any kind of a guide?
[01:04] <Martinlemaitre> i see OpenJDK runtime 7 in software centre
[01:04] <Martinlemaitre> i downloaded it
[01:04] <Martinlemaitre> is that what i need
[01:04] <blackkitty> wilee-nilee, I've installed the trackpoint-psmouse-reload...do you know how I should use it?
[01:05] <AmarandaX> That will get you started.  But then you need something to write your code in.  I would recommend Eclipse or Netbeans for Java programming
[01:05] <Martinlemaitre> i downloaded eclipse
[01:05] <Martinlemaitre> but the install button isnt working..
[01:05] <pepee> you didn't need to download anything
[01:05] <Martinlemaitre> maybe i need more ROM
[01:05] <pepee> the package manager does that for you
[01:06] <pepee> follow this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[01:06] <Martinlemaitre> package manager? what the hell is that
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> blackkitty, Not really I don't own that computer, however on my toshiba I have a touchpad app that shows in the top panel in the gnome shell.
[01:06] <comodo_dragon> yano
[01:06] <Martinlemaitre> its already in software centre why is that no okay
[01:06] <yano> comodo_dragon: what
[01:06] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, then run: sudo apt-get install eclipse
[01:06] <Martinlemaitre> run where
[01:06] <kostkon> Martinlemaitre, search for it in the software centre
[01:06] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, in a console
[01:06] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: Terminal
[01:06] <pepee> ^
[01:06] <Martinlemaitre> that helps...
[01:06] <Martinlemaitre> if i know...
[01:07] <Martinlemaitre> what is a terminal..
[01:07] <morten771> Martinlemaitre: package manger is the program that downloads software for you. checks what other software a program you are installing needs etc
[01:07] <Martinlemaitre> so what am i doing wrong if i just downloaded OpenJDK runtime 7 and eclipse
[01:07] <Martinlemaitre> in software centre
[01:07] <pepee> well, I dunno where is the terminal in unity..
[01:07] <kostkon> Martinlemaitre, nothing
[01:07] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: Click on that button with a Circle on it, and type "Terminal"
[01:07] <kostkon> Martinlemaitre, you are ready then
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> blackkitty, With a install of a new app, and if the trackpad does not just work again I would do a reboot to make sure any drivers get loaded, just a general method really.
[01:08] <Martinlemaitre> How cna I make it so whenever i open that thing fahadash it doesnt show everyone around me what recent porn ive been looking at?
[01:08] <Phlunk3> poke their eyes out
[01:08] <kostkon> Martinlemaitre, in system settings click on Privacy
[01:08] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: Are you for real ?
[01:08] <Martinlemaitre> i had to open a report in class and my friend was looking at my screen waiting so i went to search and I got a big fat "RECENT FILES: Belladonnas Black Ass Pirates 4"
[01:08] <Martinlemaitre> he just chuckled
[01:09] <pepee> java porn ftw
[01:09] <kostkon> Martinlemaitre, upper right on the gear icon, then System Settings...
[01:09] <fahadash> pepee: LoL
[01:09] <Martinlemaitre> Okay, i installed openJDK in software center and now its disappeared...how do I opening it?
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> !ot | pepee
[01:09] <jfmario> hahahaa
[01:09] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, did you run the terminal?
[01:09] <kostkon> Martinlemaitre, you launch eclipse and start coding
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> not even funny this is a world wide family channel.
[01:10] <pepee> sorry wilee-nilee
[01:10] <Martinlemaitre> hes right
[01:10] <Martinlemaitre> this is for familys
[01:10] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: What do you say to the person who asks how to hide his porn in a family channel ?
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> Martinlemaitre:  open what? software center? or openJDK?
[01:10] <Martinlemaitre> open JDK
[01:10] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, open the terminal... and run "javac"
[01:10] <Martinlemaitre> whatever that is
[01:11] <Martinlemaitre> run javac
[01:11] <Martinlemaitre> or type javac
[01:11] <pepee> type   javac -version        and press enter
[01:11] <Martinlemaitre> the program javac can be found in the
[01:11] <Martinlemaitre> following packages
[01:11] <Martinlemaitre> default jdk ecj gcj blha blah
[01:12] <Martinlemaitre> type sudo apt-get install selected package
[01:12] <pepee> cool, you installed it but it will not find it... better try the other, simpler method
[01:12] <Martinlemaitre> do i gotta install any packages
[01:12] <blackkitty> wilee-nilee - your suggestion worked. thanks again for your help!
[01:12] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, yes. type this:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[01:12] <Martinlemaitre> wat u mean it will not find it
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> blackkitty, Cool, it seemed a ppa was the choice, good luck. ;)
[01:12] <Martinlemaitre> a bunch of shit is running now pepee
[01:12] <blackkitty> wilee-nilee ^_^
[01:13] <pepee> you said you installed openjdk, ... I guess you have to configure the path to the executable
[01:13] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, it should ask you to press enter, do it
[01:13] <Martinlemaitre> now nothings happening
[01:13] <HiDeHo> Martinlemaitre: watch language
[01:13] <Martinlemaitre> what did i do
[01:13] <Martinlemaitre> its cause i mentioned windows isnt it
[01:13] <Martinlemaitre> im sorry for swearing
[01:14] <morten771> I have a problem with my log files filling up with an error "data ntfs-3g[1640]: ntfs_attr_pread error reading '/WINDOWS/$NtUninstallKB823182$/spuninst/spuninst.exe' at offset 0: 4096 <> -1: Value too large for defined data type" "Failed to decompress file: Value too large for defined data type" anyone know what I can do to stop that?
[01:14] <Martinlemaitre> pepee nothing happened
[01:14] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, pressed enter?
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Thanks for the info on the nexus to tv stuff, the nexus has perfect use basically compared to W8 and Ubuntu, lol which have their limitations.
[01:14] <pepee> now type:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[01:14] <pepee> exactly as shown, include the &&
[01:15] <Martinlemaitre> yeah but nothing happened
[01:15] <morten771> my daemon.log and syslog.1 have thousands of those lines now and are half a gig each :(
[01:15] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: Are you typing that in terminal prompt ?
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, And thats with having a nice hdmi cord and converter to usb
[01:15] <Martinlemaitre> yeah
[01:15] <Martinlemaitre> it gives me code, and the enter option
[01:15] <Martinlemaitre> but i hit enter and nothing happens
[01:16] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: Define "nothing happens"
[01:16] <Martinlemaitre> gpg Total Number processed: 1
[01:16] <Martinlemaitre> gpg imported: 1
[01:16] <pepee> that's OK
[01:16] <Martinlemaitre> thats hte last two lines
[01:17] <morten771> I think adding a line "size 64M" into my /etc/logrotate.conf should prevent any logfile from becoming more than 64 MB, do I have to run a command to activate the change or can I simply restart the computer?
[01:17] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, now type (or copy and paste):   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[01:18] <Martinlemaitre> E Could not get lock directory
[01:18] <Martinlemaitre> resource temp unavailale
[01:18] <Martinlemaitre> unable to lock administration directory
[01:18] <Martinlemaitre> then it wrote "is another processur usen it"
[01:19] <pepee> it could be updating by itself or something...
[01:20] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, wait a minute, then run the same again
[01:20] <Martinlemaitre> is itcuz im downloading windows 7
[01:20] <pepee> no
[01:22] <Martinlemaitre> iz it cuz im downloading Remy Lacroix x jules jordan Slut Puppies 12
[01:22] <pepee> well, try again:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[01:22] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, ^
[01:23] <Martinlemaitre> still E could not get lock
[01:23] <kostkon> Martinlemaitre, dont push your luck
[01:23] <jordan> my irc client gives me a popup whenever my nick "jordan" is mentioned
[01:23] <Martinlemaitre> is it cause im downloading eclipse
[01:23] <jordan> "iz it cuz im downloading Remy Lacroix x jules jordan Slut Puppies 12" is without a doubt the strangest nocontext popup I've ever seen :-)
[01:23] <kostkon> jordan, :/
[01:24] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, type  ps ax | grep apt
[01:24] <comodo_dragon> adfsd
[01:25] <Martinlemaitre> a bunch of line swiht red apts
[01:25] <fahadash> Anybody knows whats the timezone in jordan ?
[01:26] <Martinlemaitre> my computers going crazy now
[01:26] <jordan> :)
[01:26] <Martinlemaitre> all freezing
[01:26] <comodo_dragon> lol
[01:26] <comodo_dragon> jordan
[01:26] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, copy it and post it to http://pastebin.com
[01:26] <comodo_dragon> are you from jordan ?
[01:26] <comodo_dragon> use google to find timezone in jordan..
[01:26]  * jordan turns off popups :-)
[01:26] <mdkwlan> utc +02:00
[01:27] <Martinlemaitre> http://pastebin.com/3gAXKSKz\
[01:27] <Martinlemaitre> http://pastebin.com/3gAXKSKz
[01:27] <mdkwlan> Do you have another update running in the background?
[01:27] <Martinlemaitre> ya eclipse
[01:27] <Martinlemaitre> well its done now
[01:28] <mdkwlan> That would be why
[01:28] <mdkwlan> apt can only be used once at a time
[01:28] <Martinlemaitre> but it was on the software center
[01:29] <pepee> and it installed java...
[01:29] <pepee> IIRC it should configure itself
[01:29] <Martinlemaitre> i did openJDK first
[01:29] <pepee> just open eclipse
[01:29] <Martinlemaitre> tha code u gave before works
[01:29] <Martinlemaitre> im agreeing to some oracle shit
[01:30] <pepee> nooo, it's already installed
[01:30] <Martinlemaitre> u fuck
[01:30] <pepee> ah kk
[01:30] <Martinlemaitre> im at 40%
[01:30] <Martinlemaitre> its goin gup 2%
[01:30] <Martinlemaitre> every line
[01:30] <pepee> it's ok, I guess you are installing jdk 6
[01:30] <mdkwlan> What are you trying to do Martinlemaitre ?
[01:30] <Martinlemaitre> i want jdk 7
[01:30] <Martinlemaitre> what
[01:30] <Martinlemaitre> i dont want jdk 6
[01:30] <mdkwlan> sec
[01:30] <Martinlemaitre> pepee is trolling me into deleting system32
[01:30] <mdkwlan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKzUzo21vDk
[01:30] <pepee> daf...
[01:30] <Martinlemaitre> its done
[01:31] <Martinlemaitre> i been trying to install this java for 30 mins now
[01:31] <Martinlemaitre> and been going in circles
[01:31] <mdkwlan> It's really not that hard
[01:31] <mdkwlan> it's like 3 commands
[01:31] <pepee> well, congrats, you just learned how to use the terminal and how to install programs from it
[01:31] <Martinlemaitre> i dint learn anyting
[01:31] <pepee> and also, how to use the package manager
[01:31] <Martinlemaitre> package manager?
[01:32] <mdkwlan> apt = package manager
[01:32] <pepee> you need to learn how to get calm now
[01:32] <fahadash> lol
[01:32] <Martinlemaitre> calm?
[01:32] <xbhya> is there a way to include the path to a shared object file when you run an executable?  The executable is in the same directory as the .so file, but running it says "No such file or directory"
[01:32] <mdkwlan> Google would have been faster
[01:32] <Martinlemaitre> u know in windows i can install java in 1 minutes
[01:32] <mdkwlan> Then go back to windows.
[01:32] <pepee> mdkwlan, he's just impatient
[01:32] <mdkwlan> So i've seen.
[01:33] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: 5 minutes is what it takes to launch eclipse in windows.
[01:33] <morten771> who wanted to know how to use the package manager?
[01:33] <mdkwlan> No one. He didn't understand what it was.
[01:34] <morten771> xbhya: so that program absolutely wants the shared object file to be in /lib/ or something or?
[01:34] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: Linux community encourages you to Google and Read... Microsoft encourages you to call PSS Support and pay $250 to get jdk installed on windows
[01:34] <chase> hi
[01:34] <mdkwlan> Implying Ubuntu is hard to install anything. My word you may as well go back to windows if you think that.
[01:34] <Martinlemaitre> oh look
[01:34] <Martinlemaitre> i run eclipse, ERROR!
[01:34] <Martinlemaitre> Thanks ubuntu!
[01:35] <pepee> lol
[01:35] <chase> hey i just installed unbuntu studio and delete windows i am currently trying to install diablo  usuing wine but i get a error
[01:35] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, just click "ok"
[01:35] <Martinlemaitre> i did, it closes
[01:35] <mdkwlan> Clearly it's ubuntu and not your incompetence
[01:35] <Martinlemaitre> obviously
[01:35] <fahadash> lol
[01:35] <Martinlemaitre> sinc ei just installed it from the software centre
[01:35] <Martinlemaitre> had 0 room for human error
[01:35] <Martinlemaitre> and it still doesnt work
[01:35] <FloodBot1> Martinlemaitre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:35] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, post the error message in pastebin
[01:35] <fahadash> I know a 12 yo who installs packages on ubuntu without a problem
[01:36] <morten771> chase I think you can check winedb to see if there is something special you could do when running diablo perhaps
[01:36] <Martinlemaitre> says to check the log file in some directory i have no idea how to access
[01:36] <mdkwlan> Go try gentoo and tell me how bad ubuntu is again.
[01:36] <pepee> chase, did you check in appdb.winehq.org for compatibility ?
[01:36] <daftykins> Martinlemaitre: since you don't appear to be experienced with Java development, you may have neglected to install the oracle JDK in place of the OpenJDK before installing Eclipse.
[01:36] <mdkwlan> because running three commands that you can copy and paste into terminal is so god damn hard.
[01:36] <morten771> Martinlemaitre: what logfile do it want you to see?
[01:36] <Martinlemaitre> the freaking directory they link me
[01:36] <Martinlemaitre> i cant even fcking access?
[01:37] <Martinlemaitre> sigh
[01:37] <daftykins> Martinlemaitre: tone down the language or you'll have to be shown the door.
[01:37] <fahadash> mdkwlan: lol
[01:37] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: Why you can't access certain directory ? Don't you have root access ?
[01:37] <mdkwlan> Forgot going from ctrl + c and OH NO! ctrl + shift + v so hard.
[01:37] <Martinlemaitre> this is literally pissing me off
[01:38] <Martinlemaitre> it says home/martin/.eclipse
[01:38] <Martinlemaitre> i click on the folder
[01:38] <Martinlemaitre> click home
[01:38] <Martinlemaitre> NO MARTIN FOLDER!
[01:38] <FloodBot1> Martinlemaitre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: In terminal type 'cat /home/martin/.eclipse'
[01:39] <mdkwlan> There are other IDEs that you can use
[01:40] <daftykins> Martinlemaitre: what did i tell you about your language?
[01:40] <Martinlemaitre> this is AWFUL
[01:40] <daftykins> now if you want some further help, develop some manners
[01:40] <Martinlemaitre> i cant even figure out how to install windows on this
[01:40] <Martinlemaitre> trying to mount an ISO
[01:40] <Martinlemaitre> is hell
[01:40] <mdkwlan> NO! IT'S UBUNTU'S FAULT DAMNIT!
[01:40] <daftykins> !ops
[01:40] <Martinlemaitre> what the hell is a Mount Point?
[01:40] <Crazyzurfer> how do I change the hotkeys? like, fn + f6, turns the sound off
[01:41] <jboii> when apps are stuck , how can i fix it so they dont blink ?
[01:41] <daftykins> trolltastic Martinlemaitre ^
[01:41] <chase> i did check wine and the version of diablo  i am trying to install does work
[01:41] <jboii> is there something i can use  to make it so i kno things is system ok
[01:41] <pepee> chase, do you get any error messages?
[01:41] <kostkon> Martinlemaitre, you are all over the place
[01:41] <chase> but i keep getting error code BLZAPPBTS0000k
[01:41] <Martinlemaitre> this OS is all over the place
[01:42] <Martinlemaitre> trying to install java has turned into a 90 min long wild goose chase
[01:42] <Martinlemaitre> ending in failure
[01:42] <pepee> jboii, what apps, and what do you mean by "blink"?
[01:42] <cjwelborn> I installed java the other day, it took 5 minutes.
[01:42] <chase> is says the windows secondary logon service to be inabled
[01:42] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: How about you pay someone to install java for you ?
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> chase, there is a #wine channel as well.
[01:42] <chase> it requires*
[01:42] <Martinlemaitre> this is so god dman stressful
[01:42] <Martinlemaitre> u dont understand
[01:42] <morten771> Martinlemaitre: a "mount point" is where a harddisk or usbstick or whatever will be found in the files... in windows they is normally called things like C: or D: instead
[01:42] <chase> alright thaanks
[01:42] <pepee> chase, google shows errors related to battle.net
[01:42] <mdkwlan> It took about 2 mins to install for my on my ubuntu box. He's making a moutain out of a damn mole hill.
[01:43] <Martinlemaitre> YEah morten..im trying to find a drive to mount but i cant find one
[01:43] <Martinlemaitre> how do i just run an iso if it asks me for a mount point
[01:43] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, why don't you just fix eclipse?
[01:43] <morten771> Martinlemaitre: aha you want to look at the files inside an .iso file?
[01:43] <Martinlemaitre> fix eclipse how?
[01:43] <Martinlemaitre> no i want to run the damn iso
[01:43] <cjwelborn> Martin, you have a Windows 7 iso that you want to install? You need to burn it to a disk or usb.
[01:43] <pepee> it could be as easy as running two commands..
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> chase, #winehq actually
[01:44] <fahadash> I think he is CEO of Canonical just testing Ubuntu support community's patience to figure out how successful he is.
[01:44] <Martinlemaitre> why the hell would i need to burn it? cant i juts run it?
[01:44] <daftykins> *sigh*
[01:44] <Martinlemaitre> pepee
[01:44] <mdkwlan> Please go back to windows.
[01:44] <Martinlemaitre> i cant get to the folder..
[01:44] <cjwelborn> Run a Windows Installer on Ubuntu? ... just burn it.
[01:44] <Martinlemaitre> An error has occurred. See the log file /home/martin/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1381282597500.log.
[01:44] <Martinlemaitre> wat do i even do
[01:44] <mdkwlan> Read the damn log file to see what the problem is
[01:44] <Martinlemaitre> IVE TOLD U 10 TIMES
[01:44] <mdkwlan> is that really that hard to understand?
[01:44] <pepee> Martinlemaitre, sudo dpkg-reconfigure eclipse
[01:44] <Martinlemaitre> I DONT KNOW HOW TO GET TO IT
[01:44] <fahadash> Martinlemaitre: cat /path/to/filename.log
[01:44] <FloodBot1> Martinlemaitre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:44] <Martinlemaitre> IM NOT A DAMN WIZARD
[01:45] <pepee> lol
[01:45] <mdkwlan> LMAO
[01:45] <Ari-Yang> Martinlemaitre: when I installed java...it was simple
[01:45] <Ari-Yang> oh
[01:45] <xbhya> morten771: least documented program ever.  Came with a .so file and the executable, but your question caused me to randomly stumble on a google solution: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/67781/use-shared-libraries-in-usr-local-lib  thanks
[01:45] <daftykins> nice work floodbot
[01:45] <mdkwlan> Ty FloodBot2 <3
[01:45] <Ari-Yang> and here I was going to link him to a simple guide :|
[01:45] <daftykins> now you guys should NOT have been encouraging a blatant troll
[01:45] <mdkwlan> No it's more fun to egg him on
[01:45] <morten771> xbhya: ok, glad to be of any help :-)
[01:45] <daftykins> this channel is for legit support, NOT FUN!
[01:45] <mdkwlan> Lolol
[01:46] <daftykins> :P
[01:46] <mdkwlan> RTFM!
[01:46] <fahadash> JFGI
[01:46] <wylde> FUN is OT! >:(
[01:46] <daftykins> wylde: i wouldn't go that far :(
[01:46] <wylde> ;)
[01:46] <daftykins> but yes, #ubuntu-offtopic for all your trolling needs
[01:46] <fahadash> What's OT ?
[01:46] <daftykins> offtopic.
[01:46] <Jeruvy> daftykins lol :)
[01:47] <morten771> daftykins:  but support is fun, isn't it? :)
[01:47] <fahadash> daftykins: Using Ubuntu is fun, what are you talking about
[01:47] <mdkwlan> lol
[01:47] <fahadash> If Ubuntu was no fun, then you wouldn't see it gaining all that popularity would you ?
[01:47] <mdkwlan> I'm still waiting for gentoo to compile. So yea ubuntu is fun
[01:48] <morten771> should I run a command after changing logging setting before my changes work?
[01:48] <daftykins> meh, i'm off to bed, you guys can troll all you like
[01:48] <fahadash> I have recently become a preacher of ubuntu, converted many Windows zombies into Ubuntu human users
[01:48] <mdkwlan> Gn daftykins
[01:48] <morten771> nightynight daftykins
[01:48] <fahadash> Sleep better
[01:48] <mdkwlan> I'm more so a find your own flavour linux preecher
[01:49] <fahadash> That is not gonna fly so well
[01:49] <IdleOne> Can you folks take the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this channel clear for support.
[01:49] <mdkwlan> Whys that?
[01:49] <fahadash> There are users like Martinlemairte who don't know how to "Launch" an app; try that "Find your flavor" with them
[01:50] <mdkwlan> True but ill just wait till a person saids they have a problem
[01:50] <mdkwlan> inb4kicked so yea.
[01:50] <fahadash> Ok I have a support question now
[01:51] <mdkwlan> ask ill brb
[01:51] <Phlunk3> can anyone point me in the right direction for having a command which runs when a usb device is inserted?
[01:51] <fahadash> I have ubuntu installer boot-USB; I use it as a portable OS; I stick it in, boot and choose "Try Ubuntu"... I do that to use other people computers... Do you guys see any problem with it ?
[01:52] <fahadash> Phlunk3: You're probably looking for some autorun usb or something
[01:52] <Phlunk3> you can install linux onto a usb and then you will be able to store your app data and config on there also faha, probably a nicer solution
[01:52] <fahadash> Phlunk3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1485978
[01:52] <mdkwlan> Yea unetbootin has the function for mainting a session for ubuntu
[01:53] <mdkwlan> also you have other spins like DSL or puppylinux
[01:53] <wylde> !info udev | Phlunk3
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> Puppylinux is a VERY weird linux in many ways. ;)
[01:53] <mdkwlan> Hey Dr_Willis
[01:53] <fahadash> I used unetbootin to create this USB, but instead of running in installer I choose "Try Ubuntu"
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> i have a hard time reccomending it - because its so odd in ways - that teach bad habbits when using Ubuntu, or a more normal linux.
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> Howdies mdkwlan
[01:54] <mdkwlan> Macpup DSL there's tons of them
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> tinycore linux is also a very tiny (and weird) linux.
[01:55] <mdkwlan> Yea, what exactly do you find weird with them?
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> go look at how their package manager system works
[01:55] <mdkwlan> like ppm?
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> tinycore is set to have 'packages'installed to a direcxtory  then at boot all the package arvhives get mounted via the loop back feature to get merged into the actual os.
[01:56] <mdkwlan> Wow that is weird
[01:56] <IdleOne> Seriously? What does any of this have to do with Ubuntu. Take the chit chat elsewhere now please.
[01:56] <jboii> how can i make it so twitter notifications pop up ?
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> so you end up with 40+ loop devices - each oneis mounted to setup a single app/package
[01:57] <mdkwlan> Because it started with using ubuntu on a usb stick and mataining a session on a usb stick
[01:58] <IdleOne> mdkwlan: I am going to say this one last time. Stick to Ubuntu support or I will remove you from the channel. Dr_Willis you know better also.
[01:58] <mdkwlan> K
[01:58] <DWSR2> Where can I find 12.04.1 install media?
[01:58] <mdkwlan> 12.04.3 is the current one. Is there a reason why you need 12.04.1?
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[02:00] <IdleOne> DWSR2: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/
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[02:01] <IdleOne> tl_: what are you trying to do?
[02:01] <tl_> JOIN <ames123.bounceme.net:6667>
[02:01] <tl_> NO IDEA
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[02:09] <the_keen1h> Hi, is there a good reference on the order that bash reads startup files? particularly the order?
[02:09] <pepee> what version of ubuntu?
[02:09] <pepee> I think it's being changed in ubuntu 13.10...
[02:12] <pepee> he got hit by a bug in eclipse...
[02:13] <pepee> this one:  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10165693/eclipse-cannot-load-swt-libraries
[02:14] <TripSec> is TrueCrypt compatible with ubuntu?
[02:16] <skorpio> hi, can i use a gui for .par2 files like quickpar or something?
[02:17] <Valdus> all:  hi, i have a thinkpad and i was wondering if anyone here knew how to use the fingerprint scanner + a password for two layers of security
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> skorpio:  winrar works in wine
[02:17] <Valdus> all: this would be for logging in and what not
[02:19] <skorpio> Dr_Willis: i think there is a tool for it but i cant recall its name
[02:19] <pepee> Valdus, try asking in ##linux and ##security too (tell them you are using ubuntu)
[02:19] <Valdus> pepee: good idea, thnx
[02:20] <pepee> skorpio, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/71673-par-par2-program.html says there is part2 in linux
[02:21] <pepee> err... skorpio google shows pypar2 :P
[02:21] <toothe> where is slapd.conf on Ubuntu?
[02:23] <Tylertwo> toothe, 'locate slapd.conf'
[02:23] <skorpio> pepee: that might be it thanks to your superior google skills ;)
[02:23] <toothe> i found ta its in /usr/share/slapd, this is throwing me off
[02:23] <pepee> toothe, or dpkg -S slapd.conf
[02:24] <toothe> because I don'tsee the purpose of /etc/ldap then
[02:24] <pepee> skorpio, :P
[02:26] <fishcooker> how to surpress the screen output while booting?
[02:27] <fishcooker> how to change those black thing with a logo splashing ?
[02:30] <LiENUS> Rory, if you're still on finally triggered it its def an out of memory error, it just says "Killed" but dmesg shows out of memory so i do need swap space
[02:31] <fishcooker> i have coztumized ubuntu box how to surpress the screen output while booting?
[02:31] <fishcooker> how to change those black thing with a logo splashing ?
[02:32] <LiENUS> i love how 2gb isnt enough ram to run a web browser anymore
[02:33] <pepee> fishcooker, install plymouth ?
[02:38] <chucky___> hi, is it possible to run windows images on virtualbox installed on ubuntu?
[02:38] <Vialas> Hello, anyone here that could help me with "Make" and "Cloud 9 IDE"
[02:38] <ariel_17> chucky___: yes, it is
[02:38] <Vialas> chucky___ yup it sure is
[02:38] <chucky___> ariel_17, even in headless environment??
[02:38] <Vialas> chucky___ so you want to RDP into it?
[02:39] <ariel_17> chucky___: what do you mean with "headless"
[02:39] <chucky___> i.e., commandline only? server edition
[02:39] <Ben64> chucky___: check out the docs for virtualbox
[02:39] <tclo> hi
[02:39] <tclo> does anyone run cpanel on ubuntu?
[02:39] <chucky___> or is there a better way of running windows from within linux?
[02:39] <ariel_17> chucky___: I didn't tried that way. Sorry :/
[02:40] <Ben64> chucky___: thats probably the only way
[02:40] <ariel_17> chucky___: I always did that. Virtualbox inside the box, since I have ubuntu as primary os
[02:41] <ariel_17> chucky___: do you want to emulate the vmware os?
[02:42] <pepee> Vialas, you got an error or something?
[02:42] <Vialas> well now im getting a error about not supporting ARM
[02:43] <Vialas> but thats because i treid a didffeent method
[02:43] <Vialas> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1813076
[02:43] <Vialas> i was using that tutorial
[02:43] <Vialas> :$
[02:43] <FloodBot1> Vialas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <Vialas> and even with a tutorial im a noob :S
[02:43] <Vialas> i didnt flood anyone
[02:43] <bazhang> Vialas, use commas, NOT enter
[02:43]  * Vialas scratches head
[02:43] <Vialas> ohh i see, thanks bazhang , will do from nowo n
[02:45] <pepee> Vialas, hmm, no idea, but I guess someone will help you if they know
[02:45] <pepee> also, try looking for other related channels
[02:46] <toothe> gah, having trouble with slapd on Ubuntu.
[02:46] <toothe> the documentation for slapd fails at a certain point
[02:46] <toothe> I think its due to ubuntu-specific changes
[02:46] <Vialas> pepee i treid the #cloud9ide but doenst seem much help
[02:47] <Vialas> pepee the error is when i sue "make" command all parts up to that work
[02:47] <Vialas> pepee but then i get this error : clound 9 Build failed:  -> task failed (err #2):         {task: libv8.a SConstruct -> libv8.a}
[02:48] <pepee> Vialas, did you google that error?
[02:48] <tcatsunent> I installed open box and I was wondering how to install a dock and is there a quick way to cycle through desktops?
[02:48] <Vialas> i need to get better at using commas instead of the enter button. Yes i did try and google the error and that lead me to try another thing which then gave me the proplem with the ARM error about the processsor
[02:49] <pepee> tcatsunent, windows key + f1, f2 ...
[02:49] <bazhang> Vialas, try #ubuntu-arm
[02:49] <Vialas> ok bazhang
[02:50] <tcatsunent> Thanks any ideas for a dock? I tried awn but it didn't work
[02:51] <pepee> tcatsunent, no idea, but I guess people using l/xubuntu may help you?
[02:51] <bazhang> !info docky
[02:51] <bazhang> tcatsunent, ^
[02:51] <tcatsunent> thank you
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> !dock
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> awn works well for most people. its got the most features i belive
[03:01] <zykotick9> bazhang: to bad docky is written in mono, and thus doesn't have much future...
[03:02] <bazhang> zykotick9, well he asked for a dock, not the whole mono thing, and thats what came to mind; feel free to suggest others if you wish
[03:04] <zykotick9> bazhang: well, it works for now anyways ;)  i've never been a big dock fan myself, but have used awn/docky/cairo-dock in the past... you suggestion(s) where good... i was just making a comment to you :)
[03:07] <tcatsunent> says it wont work properly without compositing
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> what window manager are you using tcatsunent ?
[03:09] <morten771> can I block or mask read of one file on a NTFS partition? so when a program wants to read that file it gets 0 bytes of another file from somewhere, just so it don't try to read that file?
[03:09] <tcatsunent> openbox
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> morten771:  i imagine such features with ntfs will be very limited.
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> tcatsunent:  openbox might have some compisiting option you can enable.
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> Docks that require compositing, such as Avant-window-navigator, Cairo dock, or Kooldock, can be used in Openbox with xcompmgr
[03:11] <tcatsunent> okay thank you
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/
[03:11] <morten771> oh
[03:12] <morten771> could I for example mount a single file onto  /media/C/dir1/dir2/file.exe  ? (while /media/C is where my ntfs partition C: is)
[03:12] <Vialas> no luck :(
[03:12] <zykotick9> tcatsunent: IF you have 3D card working, you might want to check out http://www.fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Compositing
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> morten771:  i would be suprised if it was possible. you MIGHT be able to use some unionfs or other fuse 'mergeing 2 filesystems onto one' tools like unionfs, or overlayfs. or some other fuse tools.
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> morten771:  im not sure how well the ntfs-3g driver supports soft links either.  that may be anoher way to redirect that file to a differnt file
[03:14] <Hodapp> mount a single file? why?
[03:14] <morten771> I'm not sure how mounting works really, but I think one normall can make say a usb stick appear as to be the files at /home/user/foo/bar so perhaps a single file from it could be "mounted" to appear as /home/user/foo/bar/pic.jpg say?
[03:14] <IamTrying> http://eid.belgium.be/en/using_your_eid/what_do_you_need/kaartlezer/  - I have to login via my ID card, how do i install it?
[03:14] <IamTrying> http://eid.belgium.be/en/using_your_eid/what_do_you_need/kaartlezer/ - i have installed it but my card reader is not showing my ID Card details
[03:14] <loganlee> IamTrying: ?
[03:14] <morten771> aha ok
[03:15] <IamTrying> loganlee, eid-viewer is not working any idea how to install it?
[03:15] <LiENUS> so anyone with any helpful tips for swap on sd?
[03:15] <IamTrying> loganlee, software is installed but when my id card is inserted it does no preview
[03:15] <morten771> yeah the problem I really have (that I just tries to avoid) is that there is a file on my ntfs partition that my version of ntfs-3g can't read it seems. (and filling my logs with errors instead)
[03:16] <chucky___> when i do a apt-get search virtualbox, it gives me a list of results. is there a way to find out the version of that particular release?
[03:16] <comodo_dragon> !virtualbox
[03:17] <zykotick9> LiENUS: do you mean SSD?  it's fast, but bad for the drive.  personally, i have swap on my SSD (but i don't expect my SSD to last forever, maybe 4+ years is all...)
[03:17] <LiENUS> sd card
[03:17] <LiENUS> so i dont kill my ssd
[03:17] <zykotick9> LiENUS: that's gonna be SLOW...
[03:17] <IamTrying> How do i use ID Card reader?? Windows 7 / Windows XP it works but Ubuntu not possible?
[03:17] <Tylertwo> chucky___, apt-cache policy virtualbox
[03:18] <LiENUS> zykotick9, shouldnt really be any slower than swap on hard drive
[03:18] <zykotick9> LiENUS: actually it will to MUCH slower...
[03:18] <LiENUS> zykotick9, random access hard drive speed is ~10-20MB/s
[03:19] <LiENUS> so going to something thats 30-50MB/s random access speed is a step up
[03:19] <zykotick9> LiENUS: do what you want.  i'm done with this conversation...
[03:19] <LiENUS> zykotick9, well im curious why would using a faster media be slower?
[03:20] <morten771> if rhash when trying to read that file, fills the syslog with thousands of lines of same error (for same file) is it becuase rhash don't give up, and just tries again and again forever?
[03:20] <zykotick9> LiENUS: lol, SD is across USB (9 times out of 10), and if you think USB = HD speed...
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, Have you found an app like this one? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/qesteidutil/
[03:20] <LiENUS> zykotick9, for sequential reads sure, spinning disk on sata bus would destroy it hands down
[03:20] <LiENUS> but thats not what we're talking here
[03:21] <LiENUS> we're talking swap which is random reads
[03:21] <zykotick9> LiENUS: have you ever tried to run an OS over USB?  it crawls...
[03:21] <LiENUS> actually the bench marks im finding for random reads are more on the order of 1-2MB/s compared to the 50MB/s i'm pulling off my SD card
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, http://askubuntu.com/questions/284440/why-id-card-reader-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10-using-omnikey3121
[03:21] <zykotick9> LiENUS: good luck, don't use my nick further.
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> i run my raspberrypi over SD card. and you can set it up to use USB. the usb is much faster.
[03:22] <IamTrying> wilee-nilee, yes this is the exact card i have now http://askubuntu.com/questions/284440/why-id-card-reader-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10-using-omnikey3121
[03:22] <LiENUS> zykotick9, well maybe in the future yo ushouldnt be just making things up and people wont call you out on it toodles
[03:22] <IamTrying> wilee-nilee, but its not opening any data
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> ran ubuntu off of SD card on this netbook also.. again USB flash was a lot faster
[03:22] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:22] <IamTrying> wilee-nilee, ID-card Utility is not installing failed
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, I have no idea, just trying to get you to post more than  "help".
[03:23] <slie> when ubuntuforums got hacked and me having to create a new account with them did i loose all my data from the passed i'm not totally sure i used the same nickname... WFT
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> In other words details
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> slie:  i think theres a #ubuntu-forums channel
[03:23] <slie> thatnks
[03:23] <xmetal>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   hmm
[03:23] <xmetal>                   hmm
[03:24] <xmetal> ack
[03:24] <xmetal> so so sorry folks
[03:24] <xmetal> i must have had my arm on the keyboard, when watching dvd
[03:24] <miusang> Hello, everyone! http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM1NDk I am not sure whether it's appropriate to try that because I am so nervous about updating the kernel to 3.10. Now I am using Ubuntu 12.04.3. kernel 3.8.  anyone give suggestions?
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> miusang:  paraphrase what the url is about... not everyone can read every url posted to see the actual question
[03:25] <IamTrying> wilee-nilee, i need to login via my id card to a VPN SSL server and also pay tax on web. But in Ubuntu its impossible to read a id card
[03:25] <miusang> ok,
[03:25] <LiENUS> so anyone got any tips for putting swap on a sd card with ubuntu?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> LiENUS:  ive heard its a bad idea. bad to have it on a usb flash drive also.
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, I am not your help, I have not used this app, the key here is details to the channel.
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> ive done both however. ;)
[03:26] <LiENUS> Dr_Willis, well it wears out the flash faster true
[03:26] <morten771> Shouldn't there only be one error line (ntfs_attr_pread error reading ... Value too large for defined data type) instead of many (until my disk is full) when rhash is trying to read a file that my ntfs-3g can't read?
[03:26] <LiENUS> but in typical random read/writes sd cards absolutely destroy spinning disks
[03:27] <LiENUS> so it should in theory be  10-20x faster than putting it on a regular spinning hd
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> i imagine swap access is not totally random
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> run some benchmarks and see perhaps?
[03:27] <miusang> the url elaborate that How To Use Open-Source Radeon UVD On Ubuntu, but I don't know whether I can use it in my laptop and get a good performance.
[03:27] <LiENUS> not totally no, you'll see things written out in blocks the size of the program
[03:28] <LiENUS> so firefox will take up ~1gb sequential
[03:28] <miusang> Hello, everyone! http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM1NDk I am not sure whether it's appropriate to try that because I am so nervous about updating the kernel to 3.10. Now I am using Ubuntu 12.04.3. kernel 3.8.  anyone give suggestions?
[03:28] <LiENUS> but firefox isnt likely to get swapped out
[03:28] <LiENUS> you're more likely to see little things like a bunch of small services swapped out to find the space you need in ram for firefox
[03:29] <LiENUS> now if you're hibernating to a sd card it will suck performance wise compared to a hd
[03:30] <James_WB> hello ?
[03:30] <reisio> hi
[03:30] <miusang> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM1NDk I am not sure whether it's appropriate to try that because I am so nervous about updating the kernel to 3.10. Now I am using Ubuntu 12.04.3. kernel 3.8.  anyone give suggestions?the url elaborate that How To Use Open-Source Radeon UVD On Ubuntu, but I don't know whether I can use it in my laptop and get a good performance.
[03:30] <James_WB> got a problem with vlc on 13.04
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> LiENUS, Please use nicks here, you can tab complete them.
[03:30] <reisio> James_WB: bummer
[03:30] <James_WB> it is suddenly not displaying any video at all
[03:30] <James_WB> worked well before
[03:30] <James_WB> hoping someone could help
[03:31] <reisio> miusang: why're you nervous about updating to linux 3.10?
[03:31] <IamTrying> wilee-nilee, i have updated the drivers https://www.hidglobal.com/drivers/14919 but still eid-viewer is not showing the card
[03:31] <miusang> I want to use the hardware acceleration, in fact.
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, Why are you telling me this?
[03:32] <james-ubc> how do fix this error? W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 14E4942973C62A1B
[03:32] <pepee> miusang, you need kernel 3.10+, preferably 3.11
[03:32] <LiENUS> wilee-nilee, please dont use my nick here, it's considered rude to ding someone if you werent already having a relevant conversation with them
[03:32] <james-ubc> apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 14E4942973C62A1B
[03:32] <james-ubc>  didn't work
[03:33] <pepee> miusang, for UVD, you need an external package:  libg3dvl-mesa  from oibaf's PPA
[03:33] <xmetal> uh
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> james-ubc:  perhaps they havent uploaded their key to the servers yet
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> LiENUS, I am a regualr user here, and that is not correct use nicks.
[03:33] <IamTrying> wilee-nilee, is there no body used Eid-viewer???
[03:33] <pepee> miusang, #radeon may help
[03:33] <LiENUS> wilee-nilee, stop dinging me it is bad IRC ettiquette
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> !tab | LiENUS
[03:33] <reisio> miusang: 13.10 will have 3.11
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | LiENUS
[03:33] <Sir_Leto> How do I fix my program defaults for scripts?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> Sir_Leto:  clarify what you mean
[03:34] <rjhunter> miusang: If you're nervous, make sure that whatever upgrade method you're using installs your new kernel *as well* as your old one -- if things don't work out, choose your old kernel from the boot menu and you'll be back to where you were
[03:34] <KnownSyntax> LiENUS It's not considered rude, if anything no one knows who you are talking to when you reply minutes-hours later. All we see is you talk about random things, unless you highlight that person.
[03:35] <LiENUS> wilee-nilee, what you are doing ammounts to spam, they ban people from #freenode for dinging people you arent in a conversation with
[03:35] <LiENUS> KnownSyntax, i'm saying wilee-nilee is being rude by dinging me randomly
[03:35] <reisio> they really don't :p but that's immaterial
[03:35] <reisio> any of you have something related to Ubuntu to talk about?
[03:35] <miusang> Also, I am afraid that whether the propritery drivers have something wrong with the new kenerl.
[03:35] <james-ubc> Dr_Willis, huh... that's weird... I didn't add any repos this week
[03:35] <LiENUS> reisio, actually sit in there, about twice a day spammers come in dinging everyone and they ban them
[03:35] <reisio> miusang: pretty unlikely
[03:36] <reisio> LiENUS: nope
[03:36] <LiENUS> reisio, yep
[03:36] <pepee> miusang, you have to remove them completely, remove xorg and reinstall it
[03:36] <KnownSyntax> reisio: Let's talk about how openjdk throws a package not found error when you try to apt-get install it on ubuntu server >.>
[03:36] <reisio> LiENUS: not what you're talking about, nope
[03:36] <reisio> KnownSyntax: can we talk about what you want openjdk for first? :/
[03:36] <Sir_Leto> Dr_Willis: I told Ubuntu to open .pde files in processing(an IDE) and now it opens all scripts in processing
[03:36] <James_WB> anyone having trouble with vlc, mine stopped displaying video today
[03:36] <LiENUS> reisio, i simply pointed out that what he was doing is akin to spamming hes dinging me for no reason
[03:36] <reisio> James_WB: what'd you do today?
[03:36] <pepee> miusang, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[03:37] <KnownSyntax> reisio: qwebirc.
[03:37] <reisio> LiENUS: yeah, but it isn't, and it wouldn't matter if it were, that isn't your job
[03:37] <LiENUS> it's considered rude to randomly ding people
[03:37] <reisio> KnownSyntax: horrors, what's the exact error?
[03:37] <reisio> LiENUS: you said
[03:37] <LiENUS> i informed him that what he was doing is rude
[03:37] <James_WB> installed some updates in software updater, thats about it, nothing related to vlc
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> Sir_Leto:  id have to say check askubuntu.com for what tools to tweak file assoications that way.
[03:37] <LiENUS> reisio, i said <LiENUS> wilee-nilee, please dont use my nick here, it's considered rude to ding someone if you werent already having a relevant conversation with them
[03:37] <miusang> I am using laptop. Doesn't the laptop get much heat than original?
[03:37] <LiENUS> he continued to ding me
[03:37] <reisio> LiENUS: it's true you've said some things, is he dining you now?
[03:37] <KnownSyntax> reisio: apt-get can't find the package at all, I've told Ubuntu forums awhile back ago but still no fix. I'm lazy so meh, just gave up on having that part of qwebirc run correctly.
[03:38] <pepee> miusang, there is dynamic power management in kernel 3.11
[03:38] <LiENUS> then bragge dabout how he was a regular user here and could get away with being rude
[03:38] <reisio> KnownSyntax: horrors, what's the exact error?
[03:38] <pepee> miusang, http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?82751-How-to-get-dpm-accel-sb-back-end-working-on-Ubu-13-04-%28ppa-preferably-%29
[03:39] <LiENUS> then proceeded to info bot spam me with a link to the rules saying not to info bot spam me lol
[03:39] <mynameisthom> Hello, m currently using ubuntu to connect to a device with this command : stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 9600 cs8 -cstopb && cat -v < /dev/ttyUSB0. The result is, an output with ^C at the end of the data. The question is if I type : stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 9600 eof ^C cs8 -cstopb && cat -v < /dev/ttyUSB0, why doesn't it close?
[03:39] <xmetal> back
[03:39] <LiENUS> wilee-nilee, since you're a 'regular user' you should know ". Please do not abuse our bots. Trying to add silly items (including spam), or calling lots of triggers quickly is considered to be abuse"
[03:39] <miusang> One more question, if I install the proprietary driver from AMD, what happened to the kerne 3.11.
[03:39] <lucenut> I've been reading about installing ubuntu-touch on a nexus 10. Kinda confusing.
[03:39] <lucenut> Do you think the install will be any easier with the release on the 17th?
[03:39] <LiENUS> rom the link you sent me from the infobot
[03:40] <xmetal> ok i think we may have a troll from the looks of it
[03:40] <chase> can someone help me install java on ubuntu studio
[03:40] <the_keen1h> 5~
[03:40] <lucenut> Anyone have experience with ubuntu-touch?
[03:40] <zykotick9> !touch | lucenut
[03:41] <pepee> miusang, nothing. AFAIK, fglrx modifies the X server and installs a kernel module. after removing that module and the packages, you'll have no problems
[03:41] <chase> do i need to install linux rpm, linux, linux 64, or linusx 64 rpm
[03:41] <lucenut> I just have a few questions.
[03:41] <LiENUS> chase, you wouldnt need an rpm on ubuntu at all
[03:41] <lucenut> Like will the release on the 17th dual boot?
[03:41] <reisio> chase: this a desktop?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> lucenut:  all the releases have been able to dual boot
[03:41] <chase> lap top
[03:42] <zykotick9> chase: rpm is redhat/fedora... see "/msg ubottu rpm" for additional details...
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> but if you mean  can touch dual boot with what?  theres the Touch specific channels
[03:42] <reisio> chase: so desktop, use software center
[03:42] <LiENUS> chase, does ubuntu studio not have the  ubuntu software center
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> !touch | lucenut
[03:42] <reisio> chase: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:42] <chase> idk im new to ubuntu
[03:42] <pepee> mynameisthom, you have to pass ^C?
[03:43] <pepee> *you want?
[03:43] <gp5st> is there anyway to split a file in place? :-\ I'm trying to put it on s3 bc i don't have much space left, but it's over 5gb
[03:43] <miusang> Ok, I will try it right now. Great thanks. I will give some feedbacks.:)
[03:43] <chase> witch java do i need to play runescape
[03:44] <mynameisthom> pepee, yep. I've tried hit Ctrl-V Ctrl-C, but nothing. The command is still listening the port.
[03:44] <reisio> gp5st: how do you have access to s3?
[03:44] <chase> like for graphics
[03:44] <pepee> miusang, it's experimental, I don't think feedback will be welcome...
[03:44] <pepee> miusang, not  in this channel, at least
[03:44] <reisio> gp5st: use 'split' or 'tar' and s3fs
[03:44] <pepee> miusang, go to #radeon
[03:44] <LiENUS> !java | chase
[03:44] <miusang> ok, no problem.
[03:44] <reisio> gp5st: or, sorry, just use s3fs :)
[03:44] <reisio> gp5st: and cp/rsync
[03:44] <chase> ok thanks
[03:44] <LiENUS> you want the jre and browser plugin
[03:45] <pepee> mynameisthom, the manpage says eof specifies the char to terminate the session...
[03:45] <reisio> chase: runescape?
[03:46] <reisio> ah
[03:46] <pepee> mynameisthom, try passing '\x03' as argument?
[03:46] <chase> after i download java what do i need to open it with
[03:46] <pepee> or, better yet, give it some other char...
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> chase:  what did you download exactly?
[03:46] <chase> archive mnager?
[03:46] <LiENUS> reisio, its a mmorpg
[03:46] <LiENUS> done through the web browser
[03:46] <xmetal> good question
[03:47] <chase> jre-7u40-linux-i586.tar.gz
[03:47] <reisio> chase: you don't download it through your browser
[03:47] <LiENUS> iirc theres a launcher so he could use it and in theory get away without the plugin and just use the launcher but i've no idea if it works on linux
[03:47] <reisio> chase: use your package manager
[03:47] <gp5st> reisio: but i thought there was a 5gb limit on s3 (i'm using s3cmd and it's getting a broken pipe error)
[03:47] <xmetal> i'd look in the package manager first before messing with tarballs
[03:47] <xmetal> at least on a mint/ubuntu OS
[03:47] <LiENUS> chase, try the openjdk before you try oracle
[03:47] <chase> it dont lienus
[03:47] <chase> and it wouldnt work on wine either
[03:48] <pepee> seriously, most if not all newbs don't even know that there is a package manager
[03:48] <reisio> gp5st: well that's a separate problem altogether
[03:48] <LiENUS> chase, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Installation_of_Java_Runtime_Environment
[03:48] <pepee> why isn't it in the /topic ?
[03:48] <reisio> gp5st: how do you expect to move 5gb off one FS and onto another that won't take it
[03:48] <pepee> it should be the first thing newbs should read...
[03:48] <chase> thanks for the help guys
[03:49] <chase> im a coder im just trying to get into ubuntu
[03:49] <chase> really
[03:49] <gp5st> reisio: i have no idea
[03:49] <xmetal>  look for synaptic
[03:49] <reisio> pepee: why not just make people learn how to be self sufficient? Great idea :p
[03:49] <xmetal> or did i typo that?
[03:49] <xmetal> lol
[03:49] <reisio> gp5st: okay, so maybe this isn't your solution
[03:49] <gp5st> reisio: i wanted to split it into smaller files
[03:49] <gp5st> hmm, this is a rar with a rar in it? (I didn't make it) could i mount it?
[03:49] <pepee> reisio, because to start being self sufficient, it's easier to just RTFM...
[03:49] <reisio> gp5st: start with this: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/clean-unnecessary-temporarily-files-in.html
[03:50] <reisio> gp5st: hrmm?
[03:50] <gp5st> reisio: oh i've been doing that:-p
[03:50] <reisio> pepee: you know that, and I know that, two down
[03:50] <reisio> gp5st: you know you can get 3TB for about $120 in the USA right now
[03:50] <reisio> that's less than $50 per 1TB
[03:50] <chase> what application do you open oracle with
[03:50] <chase> ?
[03:50] <pepee> yeah, well, the first question should always be "are you new to ubuntu/linux?"
[03:50] <chase> to install
[03:51] <hoverboard> yo pepee
[03:51] <pepee> hey hoverboard
[03:51] <reisio> gp5st: Ubuntu One offers 5gb of free online space
[03:51] <hoverboard> you're pretty active in here
[03:51] <reisio> gp5st: google drive offers 15
[03:51] <reisio> hundreds of others
[03:51] <pepee> hoverboard, I used to be, but it's kinda hard to teach people...
[03:51] <methodize> what could be the cause of booting to black screen 3 times and on the 4th it boots correctly?
[03:51] <hoverboard> you still in that other channel?
[03:51] <reisio> pepee: I'm not sure you should be answering questions if the answer to that one isn't obvious :)
[03:51] <Sir_Leto> turns out I need to edit ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list
[03:51] <pepee> hoverboard, yep
[03:52] <reisio> methodize: race conditions, don't you love C++?
[03:52] <hoverboard> ah cool
[03:52] <pepee> reisio, some people knows how to do things, some learn quickly by themselves, etc.
[03:52] <reisio> uhuh
[03:52] <chase> what program do i need to choose to install jdk oracle
[03:52] <gp5st> reisio: it's a 6gb file:-p
[03:52] <pepee> some are told "look, ubuntu is great, I'll install it for you" and then... nothing, they don't know how to use it
[03:52] <pepee> chase, use the software center
[03:53] <hoverboard> yeah that's true
[03:53] <reisio> gp5st: what is it?
[03:53] <xmetal> the room bot have a "package manager or software center commond"
[03:53] <reisio> chase: what makes you think you need oracle's?
[03:53] <xmetal> oops @ my spelling
[03:53] <xmetal> command
[03:53] <gp5st> reisio: some (non porn) videos
[03:53] <reisio> gp5st: in what format?
[03:53] <reisio> gp5st: how much space do you have?
[03:53] <reisio> gp5st: get yourself some porn
[03:53] <gp5st> ~ 800mb?
[03:54] <mynameisthom> pepee, it says stty: invalid integer argument `x03'
[03:54] <xmetal> i have a joke here but i am bound to get kicked from the room for saying it
[03:54] <xmetal> :P
[03:54] <Sir_Leto> can someone get something from their application defaults config for me?
[03:54] <pepee> mynameisthom, include the quotes, or try      eof $(echo -ne '\x03')
[03:55] <mynameisthom> pepee, gimme a second. I'll try the last one, since quote doesn't work
[03:56] <Sir_Leto> I want to know what it says in ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list for the mime type application/x-shellscript
[03:56] <Sir_Leto> can anyone tell me?
[03:56] <reisio> Sir_Leto: I'm guessing dash or bash
[03:56] <Sir_Leto> I need it to fix my messed up file associations
[03:56] <reisio> apt-file can probably tell you what package provides that
[03:57] <obiwanjabr0ni> how do you set up the gui to have these widgets? http://i.imgur.com/eyow1D2.jpg
[03:57] <reisio> heheh
[03:57] <mynameisthom> pepee, still not work. At least it display the correct result, even it still not auto-close.
[03:57] <reisio> obiwanjabr0ni: you must be so bored
[03:57] <gp5st> archivemount cmd ftw!
[03:57] <obiwanjabr0ni> reisio ?
[03:57] <Sir_Leto> nice
[03:57] <Sir_Leto> lol
[03:57] <reisio> obiwanjabr0ni: I was just in #css when you did that :p
[03:57] <Sir_Leto> obiwanjabr0ni: check you clipboard
[03:57] <pepee> mynameisthom, no idea then, try asking in ##linux or something else
[03:57] <obiwanjabr0ni> omg wtf
[03:57] <reisio> Sir_Leto: no he's doing it on purpose :p
[03:58] <obiwanjabr0ni> OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING
[03:58] <obiwanjabr0ni> A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER
[03:58] <obiwanjabr0ni> HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY
[03:58] <obiwanjabr0ni> FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH
[03:58] <obiwanjabr0ni> CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE OMG IT'S A GAY FAG SUCKING A PENIS WITH CUM ALL OVER HIS FACE
[03:58] <reisio> if it weren't such blatant gay porn, maybe that would be a possibility
[03:58] <reisio> heh
[03:58] <Sir_Leto> I don't mind it, but he can probably get in trouble for it
[03:58] <Sir_Leto> he's spamming now
[03:59] <reisio> he was always spamming
[03:59] <reisio> that is what spam is
[03:59] <Fritzkampfer> eh just think about in a week how this wont matter 1 penny
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> and people wonder why i keep  insisting they use a pastebin text site. not jpg images
[03:59] <mynameisthom> pepee, thank you :)
[03:59] <reisio> there's no time when you join a channel for the purpose of sending an irrelevant message that it isn't spam
[03:59] <pepee> mynameisthom, yw
[03:59] <justicefries> i'm trying to change from the default stereo sound to 7.1 surround sound. no matter what I do, when I initially play, it's in stereo until I change the mode in system settings - sound.
[03:59] <justicefries> has anybody dealt with this? i'm using pusleaudio.
[03:59] <justicefries> i've had this problem in ubuntu and mint.
[03:59] <pepee> justanotheruser, try using pavucontrol
[04:00] <Sir_Leto> I've given up with linux and audio
[04:00] <Sir_Leto> It still has so many problems
[04:00] <justicefries> is there some mystery mode in pavucontrol?
[04:00] <pepee> pulseaudio always gives problems...
[04:00] <justicefries> chromium, right now shows built-in Audio Analog Surround 7.1
[04:00] <justicefries> but only shows front left and front right control.s
[04:00] <justicefries> yeah.
[04:01] <pepee> justanotheruser, ah, sorry, misread... no idea about that...
[04:01] <pepee> justanotheruser, are you sure the driver supports 7.1?
[04:01] <justicefries> yeah, i can change to the mode
[04:01] <justicefries> and while that process is open
[04:01] <justicefries> it's definitely in 7.1
[04:02] <methodize> reisio,  theres nothing i can do about it?
[04:03] <reisio> methodize: about what?
[04:03] <rrm> anyone could recommend me a laptop with ubuntu pre installed
[04:04] <reisio> rrm: can't pick one yourself?
[04:04] <Sir_Leto> I think dell may still sell laptops like that
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> system76 has several also
[04:05] <rrm> reisio: well, i want to make sure it works ok with 12.04 since this x130e has issues with wireless and video card
[04:05] <Sir_Leto> rrm: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/dell/dellxps
[04:05] <reisio> rrm: any reputable business will make sure the hardware works with what they put on it
[04:06] <Sir_Leto> $1549?
[04:06] <Sir_Leto> ouch
[04:06] <rrm> reisio: reputable?
[04:06] <reisio> rrm: having a good reputation
[04:07] <rrm> reisio: i know, lol... lenovo is one, does not work out of the box, lol... i just wanted something that i do not have to worry about tinkering, i just want to use it
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> thre is a list of ubuntu certified hardware on the ubuntu site ive seen.
[04:07] <reisio> right, but they also don't sell computers with ubuntu preinstalled
[04:07] <reisio> so that isn't relevant
[04:07] <Sir_Leto> rrm: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Lenovo/
[04:08] <methodize> reisio, about race conditions.
[04:08] <reisio> newegg has a $250 netbook/laptop right now with ubuntu
[04:08] <reisio> methodize: oh
[04:08] <reisio> methodize: that could be tedious to debug, you'd have to look at logs and things
[04:08] <rrm> Sir_Leto: wow, that xps is expensive
[04:09] <reisio> dell raises prices on their linux offerings
[04:09] <methodize> reisio, ah, any idea on where i could start chipping away at that? or what to look into
[04:09] <Sir_Leto> It's a core 3rd gen core i7 laptop with a 1080p display
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> my current netbook is ubuntu 'certified' but it still has a few quirks.
[04:09] <reisio> presumably because they don't sell as many
[04:09] <Sir_Leto> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/models/?csrfmiddlewaretoken=Tq4jikYqiYOIyY1iXcdz3gqGzzBklSSo&query=&category=Laptop&level=Any&release=
[04:09] <Sir_Leto> reisio: It does have high end specs though
[04:09] <reisio> Sir_Leto: it does
[04:10] <justicefries> ugh sound just shouldn't be this poor.
[04:10] <reisio> including 226GB more SSD than anyone would need
[04:14] <fishcooker> i've 10.04.1 box
[04:14] <fishcooker> why i cant do this
[04:14] <fishcooker> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cherokee-webserver
[04:14] <fishcooker> sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
[04:15] <fishcooker> there is no package for it
[04:16] <fishcooker> solved
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> the repo may not have anything for 10.04
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> and you DID do a sudo apt-get update, after adding the repo?
[04:17] <fishcooker> yes Dr_Willis
[04:17] <fishcooker> sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[04:17] <fishcooker> that solve my problem
[04:18] <Ben64> its probably time to upgrade to 12.04
[04:19] <Ari-Yang> !EOL > fishcooker
[04:20] <zykotick9> Ben64: considering all previous releases are EOL (on desktop), it'd say yes.
[04:20] <zykotick9> s/it'd/i'd/
[04:22] <Ben64> zykotick9: that wouldn't work, would be easier to do s/it/i/
[04:22] <zykotick9> Ben64: :) good point.  does ' mess with things? (i'm assuming by your comment, it does)
[04:23] <Ben64> yeah, would need to escape them, like s/it\'d/i\'d/ but that looks silly
[04:24] <pepee> s/\/\\\\/\//
[04:24] <CodeOmegaPrime> I installed ubuntu 13.04 and them updated and installed gnome now when I login my screen is black with a cursor.
[04:24] <pepee> CodeOmegaPrime, upgrade to 13.10 ? :P
[04:25] <pepee> it will be released in a couple days, so...
[04:25] <CodeOmegaPrime> Doesnt really fix the fact my work machine is jow a paperweight until its working
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, It's just called cherokee in the ppa
[04:26] <Ben64> CodeOmegaPrime: what exactly did you do
[04:27] <CodeOmegaPrime> I installed gnome then ati drivers then ran sudo aticonfig --initial --adapter=all
[04:27] <pepee> CodeOmegaPrime, upgrade from the tty ?
[04:27] <CodeOmegaPrime> Yes
[04:27] <pepee> CodeOmegaPrime, looks like a problem with fglrx...
[04:28] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: fglrx is horrible..... and it has horrible 2d acceleration, you'd only use it if you were a gamer
[04:28] <Ari-Yang> if you aren't, you're better off with the open source radeon driver
[04:29] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: what card do you have?
[04:29] <CodeOmegaPrime> Let me look I do play some games
[04:29] <CodeOmegaPrime> And program them
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> CodeOmegaPrime, installed gnome, the shell?
[04:30] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: what card do you have?
[04:30] <CodeOmegaPrime> HD 6530D
[04:31] <CodeOmegaPrime> Radeon
[04:32] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: tbh you're better off with installing kernel 3.10 or 3.11, and mesa git, with this setup it rivals fglrx
[04:33] <superboot> Hi all. I know it's old new, but I'm still not over the death of Gnome 2. Anyone else?
[04:33] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic > superboot
[04:33] <pepee> superboot, mint ?
[04:33] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ari-Yang will that work for games too
[04:33] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: yes....
[04:34] <superboot> Ari-Yang: Ah, thanks.
[04:34] <pepee> CodeOmegaPrime, you may find some bugs though..
[04:34] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: and if you're using xf86-ati driver 7.2, and mesa 9.2 at least, you can have hardware video decoding support
[04:34] <pepee> superboot, AFAIK mint still uses gnome2
[04:34] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: yeah what pepee you might find some bugs... I'm using it myself and so far everything is fine...but it may not be the same for you
[04:35] <pepee> I get black screen after resume from suspend :'(
[04:35] <pepee> I'm using the FOSS driver too
[04:36] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ok time to dig thanks guys
[04:36] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: if you're curious use this ppa https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/
[04:36] <zykotick9> pepee: i'm assuming you use AMD/ATI, which is NOT FOSS, only OS (open source).
[04:37] <pepee> CodeOmegaPrime, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx , http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM1NDk , http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?82751-How-to-get-dpm-accel-sb-back-end-working-on-Ubu-13-04-%28ppa-preferably-%29
[04:37] <Ari-Yang> zykotick9: I think he means open source radeon driver...
[04:37] <pepee> zykotick9, yeah, sorry, I don't understand the difference very well
[04:38] <pepee> it's because of the firmware?
[04:38] <zykotick9> pepee: many people don't.  but there is nothing "free" if you use ATI/AMD.  yes due to firmware.
[04:38] <pepee> k
[04:39] <pepee> saucy should ship libg3dvl-mesa ... it would be less problematic for people to use the radeon driver
[04:40] <Ari-Yang> pepee: I'm sticking with 12.10, but it would be a let down if 13.10 isn't shipped with that and mesa 9.2...
[04:41] <charco> Hi. I'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bits. My computer FREEZES when I have a userland program use the "read" function and press CTRL-D
[04:41] <pepee> well, it isn't in the repos
[04:41] <pepee> I got mine from oibaf's PPA
[04:41] <pepee> packaged for raring
[04:41] <Ari-Yang> pepee: I installed using oibaf's ppa as well
[04:41] <charco> I can't find if it's a bug that only happens to me o what. But I think it's weird.
[04:42] <pepee> charco, that's really weird
[04:42] <charco> pepee, yes, yes it is. Do you have any idea of what should I do?
[04:43] <charco> I was just testing something, used read in a program, and hit CTRL-D.. the whole system freezes =/
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> charco, userland is not in the repos right?
[04:43] <charco> I think that probably there's a memory leak somewhere. Because suddenly it fills my ram(8GB) and swap
[04:44] <pepee> well, I'd try connecting from another machine and watching the processes
[04:44] <pepee> charco, what program?
[04:44] <charco> wilee-nilee, just a normal program. calling read(0, buffer, 1023);
[04:44] <pepee> could be a bug in that particular program
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> charco, userland is not in the repos right?
[04:45] <pepee> wilee-nilee, userland means, not as root AFAIK
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> 3rd party apps are basically not supported here is all
[04:45] <nrdb> hello .... I am trying to get a VM to network boot via nfs ... I have setup a directory for the nfsroot which I think is correct ... the VM does boot to some iso mounts :-) ... but fails when trying to use the nfsroot I have setup ... saying failed "Gave up waiting" ... when it drops to BusyBox the if isn't configured :-) ... can anyone help
[04:46] <charco> wilee-nilee, my program only does this system call.. just calls to read to fill a buffer from STDIN. There's no other program.
[04:46] <zykotick9> pepee: userland means "non-kernel" basically.  root vs non-root is different.
[04:48] <pepee> oh yeah, sorry
[04:49] <pepee> charco, well, what if you try reinstalling some packages?
[04:49] <pepee> I dunno, but people seem more knowledgeable in ##linux ..
[04:51] <charco> This only happens on my ubuntu 12.04, not my xubuntu 12.04
[04:52] <zykotick9> charco: consider reporting a bug then... although it's most likely a waste of time...
[04:52] <CodeOmegaPrime> Purging amd proprietary drivers and I am back up.
[04:53] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: you uninstalled them?
[04:53] <Ari-Yang> s/them/it
[04:53] <charco> zykotick9, I will try to know what is happening first. I think it's weird.  =/
[04:53] <charco> Thanks guys!
[04:54] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ari-yang yez I did
[04:55] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: okay, so what are you going to do?
[04:55] <CodeOmegaPrime> I think I am goinv to follow your advice.
[04:56] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: alright~
[04:56] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: question, does your gpu heat up a lot?
[04:56] <CodeOmegaPrime> Nope
[04:57] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: okay; go on ahead and add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/
[04:57] <nrdb> hello .... I am trying to get a VM to network boot via nfs ... I have setup a directory for the nfsroot which I think is correct ... the VM does boot to some iso mounts :-) ... but fails when trying to use the nfsroot I have setup ... saying failed "Gave up waiting" ... when it drops to BusyBox the network isn't configured :-( ... should eth0 be configured?  when I tried to manually configure eth0 and mount the nfsroot.  It hung when try
[04:57] <nrdb> ing to mount the root :-(
[04:57] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ok
[04:57] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: install everything in mesa, linux-firmware, and xserver-xorg-video-ati packages
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> sounds like the nfsroot is incorrect
[04:58] <Ari-Yang> if you want to look at the contents, CodeOmegaPrime click on 'view package details' to see
[04:58] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: actually no
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> nrdb:  i seem to recall doing that once - ages ago. i had vm#1 netbooting vm#2 as a test case. but i cnt even rember the disrto i used.
[04:58] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: easier way would be to add the package and run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:58] <Ari-Yang> !dist-upgrade | CodeOmegaPrime
[04:59] <nrdb> Dr_Willis, ok.. shouldn't the kernel setup eth0 very early?  before droping to BusyBox
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> nrdb:  the initrd process i think does stuff.  using busybox. then hands off to the actual system.
[05:01] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: when you're done running dist-upgrade, reboot
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> nrdb:  sounds like it may not be getting the right hand off.
[05:01] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ok will do
[05:02] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: what kernel version are you running on?
[05:02] <CodeOmegaPrime> 3.8.0.31
[05:02] <nrdb> Dr_Willis, that is what I thought ... but when but when it gets to the busybox eth0 is still unconfigured which means that it can't even try to mount the root... any ideas on what could stop it?
[05:03] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: yeah, I recommend you upgrade to latest mainline kernel http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.4-saucy/
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> nrdb:  nope - not really. could be the initrd dosent have all the drivers needed for your nic
[05:04] <Ari-Yang> when the stuff from dist-upgrade is done installing, CodeOmegaPrime, install the right .deb files for your system. if you're on amd64 download and install the amd64 headers, headers-all, and the amd64 image
[05:04] <nrdb> Dr_Willis, but if it didn't ... wouldn't it not allow an "ifconfig eth0 <ip>" to work?
[05:04] <CodeOmegaPrime> From the link right
[05:05] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: yes from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.4-saucy/
[05:05] <CodeOmegaPrime> Ok
[05:06] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: you want these http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/46376764
[05:07] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: let me know when you're done installing the stuff and kernel 3.11
[05:07] <Ari-Yang> (before you reboot)
[05:08] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: you are on 64-bit, yes?
[05:14] <Curtisbeef> I have a AMD 5700 HD and Im trying to get ubuntu setup anyone know what could be causing this multiple monitor issue? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoMUu5qBypA
[05:14] <Guest52707> bocaneri
[05:15] <bocaneri> Guest52707, you're going to wind up being klined if you don't cut that out.
[05:15] <Ari-Yang> Curtisbeef: I'm not sure... did you try running xrandr --auto in terminal ?
[05:15] <CodeOmegaPrime> Yes I am
[05:16] <Ari-Yang> okay
[05:16] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: run this in terminal and tell me the output lspci | grep VGA after you've installed everything I told you to
[05:16] <Guest52707> bocaneri unban
[05:16] <Curtisbeef>  Ari-Yang hmm na im kindof a noob. Im in win7 now this was a few days ago
[05:17] <Ari-Yang> Curtisbeef: my hdmi works fine when I open a terminal and run xrandr --auto
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> bocaneri: might be same guy as yesterday
[05:17] <Curtisbeef> im running it off a Displayport adaptor it works fine in win7 though
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | Curtisbeef
[05:25] <lkthomas> hey guys, anyone using snapraid ?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: best is to shoot your issue here mate
[05:26] <lkthomas> is it ok to run mysql DB on it ?
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: ubuntu uses lamp server, not sure what snapraid is but i dont think it would be a problem
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | lkthomas
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: can you explain how snapraid works and wich ubuntu version you are on?
[05:29] <lkthomas> I think that's not what I expect, I need someone who have experience with snapraid before comment anything
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: i think the ##hardware channel might be more of use for you then
[05:29] <Paulus68_1> !snapraid
[05:29] <lkthomas> it's not a hardware RAI either
[05:29] <lkthomas> RAID*
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !raid | lkthomas
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: maybe under software raid
[05:30] <lkthomas> come on, LOL
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: how can we help you if you cant provide details..
[05:31] <lkthomas> I already did
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: you asked experience not an error
[05:32] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: I have to go so I typed this up for you http://paste.opensuse.org/76856142
[05:32] <lkthomas> that's correct, no error
[05:32] <Ari-Yang> CodeOmegaPrime: do that after you're done doing what I told you earlier...
[05:32] <lkthomas> I think I need to take a look how snapraid going to distribute data in file level
[05:32] <CodeOmegaPrime> Thank you I am working through itnthanks again your Awsome
[05:32] <Ari-Yang> you're welcome, I hope everything works out
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: as for now its not really ubuntu-related
[05:33] <lkthomas> I better leave it here
[05:34] <lkthomas> this topic is beyond the knowledge of what we have here
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: maybe it wont if you was installing ubuntu on it..
[05:35] <lkthomas> nevermind
[05:35] <lkthomas> I am on my own
[05:36] <lkthomas> lotuspsychje: one question for you, which I know the answer but worth for you to think; what kind of error that in general RAID can't detect ?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: thats a bit offtopic mate
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: we support ubuntu here
[05:37] <gulag2013> Gratitude, for the hard work that everyone here contributes to helping others.
[05:37] <lkthomas> lotuspsychje: it's not, when you put data on ubuntu, you want it safe
[05:37] <lkthomas> lotuspsychje: think outside the box man
[05:37]  * lkthomas back to his research
[05:38] <helmut_> hi
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> gulag2013: tnx for your feedback to all helpers
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> someone know what to fill in the setup part of a iscsi where it asks ip/port/username?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> setup of ubuntu 13.04 on a hp server
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask about snapraid
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> lkthomas: this would be the ubuntu tut: http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Configure-the-server/Install-SnapRAID.html
[06:05] <sidesh> hi
[06:06] <sidesh> is there any one to help me
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !ask | sidesh
[06:08] <sidesh> fogger in not intalling through software center
[06:09] <sidesh> how can i intall fogger
[06:11] <aeon-ltd> sidesh: is it available in the repos? or ppa?
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> !info fogger
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> guess not...
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> sidesh: you'll have to search for a ppa or compile it yourself
[06:13] <sidesh> yes it is but when i install it it ask for ubuntu one id and when i provide software center stop responding
[06:13] <wylde> sidesh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2064195
[06:13] <sidesh> i am on ubuntu 12.04
[06:19] <Guest71857> Hey everyone, i want to remove system settings and lock screen from the menu top-right, is this possible to customize?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Guest71568: you can install ubuntu-tweak to remove those
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: oh this was for you
[06:20] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje i tried that but couldnt find the option
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: maybe unity-tweak can do some stuff aswell
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> !info unity-tweak | cbilljones
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> i get all the tweak tools names confused.
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !info unity-tweak-tool
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> aha
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> unsettings, ubuntu-tweak  gnome-tweak-tool
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> we need a tweak tool to tweak the tweak tools
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> haha
[06:23] <snkcld> even grappeli is reporting "The venue "test" was added successfully."
[06:23] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje i am able to install ubuntu-tweak/unity-tweak-tool with ppa, reinstalling now; were do i find option to customize that menu?
[06:23] <snkcld> ah, i know what it is. the save() function is calling out to a geocoding api, and that must be failing so its bailing the save.
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: not sure about systemsettings, but you can remove the lock screen i think
[06:24] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje hmm i need to find a way to remove the "system settings" option mainly
[06:25] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje i dont want users to be able to easily access that
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: well systemsettings requiere root priveleges
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. i dident think they all do
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> im on razorqt so my system settings may be differnt however. l;)
[06:27] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje no, i can change many settings there without escalating privlages
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: maybe here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/44171/is-there-a-way-to-move-remove-system-settings-from-the-shut-down-menu
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> hmm thats for 11.04
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> not sure it will work
[06:29] <k1l_> !find fogger
[06:29] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje ya im scared to try that, mark said it will change in future release
[06:30] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje im thinking there must be a file somewhere i can edit to customize that menu
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  normally theres gconf settings. not files.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> but not all settings are changeable. :)
[06:31] <cbilljones> dr_willis that would work too, maybe a gconf setting then hehe
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> or dconf yes
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> most all the tweak tools just alter the gconf settings/dconf/whateverconf
[06:32] <cbilljones> dr_willis any idea were i should look for those settings in particular? :)
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  not really. askubuntu.com might have some info. or it might just not be doable.
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: how about this1? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1761810
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> i dont see why it matters much. the user can always run that gnome-settings-manager or whatever its called
[06:33] <jonascj> Anyone using mozilla thunderbird (and lightning + google data provider)? This morning when I started my laptop thunderbird starts up asking me to setup my email account. I had 4 accounts setup yesterday. The ~/.thunderbird/profile.ini points to the right location and the location still exists.
[06:34] <cbilljones> dr_willis, i know, i just want to make it harder, these will be touch screens, with panel hidden, if user plugs in a keyboard and messes with stuff, he can pay for a service call lol
[06:35] <cbilljones> loyuspsychje that looks promising, trying now
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> cross fingers
[06:36] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje yup hehe its rebooting now, will know soon
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> :p
[06:36] <k1l_> sidesh: you need this PPA iirc: https://launchpad.net/~loneowais/+archive/fogger
[06:38] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje damn its still there lol, checked loc for link and its still gone, its pulling it from somewhere else it seems :(
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> strange
[06:39] <Rezkon> Hi i need some help
[06:39] <Rory> !ask | Rezkon
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> Rory: you know how cbilljones can remove systemsettings from logout menu?
[06:40] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje im digging through dconf-editor, see if anything there
[06:40] <cfhowlett> !details|Rezkon, no telepaths here.  describe your issue.
[06:41] <Rory> lotuspsychje: I'm sure you don't mean me
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> if its a koisk do you even want the logout menu?
[06:41] <Rory> Oh you're asking if I know
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> Rory: yes i mean you maybe you also know :p
[06:41] <cbilljones> dr_willis ya that one is ok, its a point of sale terminal, user should be able to easily logout/reboot
[06:41] <Rezkon> Oh Sorry, Ok so im reading a book called hacking the art of expoiltation, it using ubuntu with a linux kernal i belive but i keep getting errors such as "unknown boot option+0x0/0x/19 and random freezes on sda: Assuming etc
[06:41] <Rory> Is it in unity-tweak-tool maybe?
[06:41] <Rory> Rezkon: What Ubuntu version?
[06:42] <cbilljones> rory dont see it in unity-tweak
[06:42] <cbilljones> rory 14.04
[06:42] <cbilljones> rory 13.04
[06:42] <Rory> cbilljones: No, that doesn't exist
[06:42] <Rory> oh OK
[06:42] <Rezkon> 7 id belive its a old book
[06:42] <Rory> lol Rezkon
[06:42] <Rory> Rezkon: go to Ubuntu.com and download a version that isn't from 2007
[06:43] <Rory> !eol | Rezkon
[06:43] <cbilljones> rory i like it cause all my hardware works out of the box including touch, just trying to get it perfect for large scale deployment
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  i notice that lubuntu has some sort of nexux7 desktop mode. ;)  wonder if that would be better for a touchscreen
[06:44] <Rezkon> Rory, the book im reading LiveCD has SRC codes and that in it andits all based on 7 :\ Reckon just read the book and follow as best as  i an
[06:44] <Rory> Rezkon: Did you get it installed OK?
[06:45] <Rezkon> Nup.
[06:45] <Rezkon> this just boooting
[06:45] <Rezkon> im using a VM Player though
[06:46] <cbilljones> dr_willis i may look at it, but for the most part i like unity, hiding panel solves most issues, it just this last small thing lol
[06:46] <Rory> Rezkon: I think you should download a version that's supported. 7.10 hasn't been supported since 2009
[06:46] <Rory> Rezkon: You can still use source code from the CD
[06:47] <deckard> hello, are there any cool looking terminals? with cool fonts?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> deckard:  install whatever monospaced fonts you want and uise in what ever terminal you want
[06:48] <deckard> do you know of any like themed terminals? like games?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> !info terminator
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: i think ubuntu wants users to be able to config their own settings for their desktop..
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> !info eterm | deckard
[06:49] <deckard> ty
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: and settings like installing software and such: root axs
[06:50] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje ya it kind of looks like that maybe the case
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: users wont be able to mess up your desktop right
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> just their own
[06:51] <sgarbesi> i'm attempting to get a cronjob to run every minute to kick up a nodejs server, thing is it doesn't seem to actually kick it off and i have no idea why. if i run the command manually it works no problem
[06:51] <sgarbesi> here is the command: /usr/bin/flock -n /tmp/mysite.com.lock /usr/local/bin/nodemon /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/mysite.com/workspace/bootstrap.js >> /var/log/node/mysite.com.log 2>&1
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> sgarbesi:  comon issues. the $PATH is differnt, use full paths. dont use shortcuts
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: maybe look into chmod and !security for tighten your system even more
[06:52] <lkthomas> is there have any file system which would be read only after creation ?
[06:52] <sgarbesi> syslog isn't showing any errors so I'm stumped
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> also cron uses sh, not bash    which can cause issues
[06:52] <sgarbesi> Dr_Willis so prefix /bin/bash ?
[06:52] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje ya but the software will run from their profile and inside it; i suppose they cant do any real damage there; and we just tell them they screw with stuff and they may have to pay for service call; its still way more locked down then our windows units
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> sgarbesi:  id make a bash script that the cron job calls
[06:53] <sgarbesi> can i just do it in a one liner? i have a bunch of these that need to run for each domain, i really don't want to have to spin up a bunch of .sh files if i can avoid it :/
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: ubuntu will have seperate stuff for users indeed, they cant do any 'real' harm on your system
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: maybe you can also look into chatcafe software or nanny software for ubuntu
[06:55] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje i may see how running without DE at all goes, or ive though about maybe just lxde and our software
[06:55] <wylde> lkthomas: you can use squashfs-tools to make compressed versions of filesystems that can be mounted and are read only.... unless of course you append more files using mksquashfs tool :)
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: you might be able to lock down more stuff you reall want
[06:56] <lkthomas> wylde: does squashfs is the only option?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: would be cool to have the user only surf the web lol
[06:57] <sgarbesi> Dr_Willis I dropped it into a .sh file, still no good :/
[06:57] <wylde> lkthomas: I doubt it's the only option. First one that came to mind.
[06:57] <sgarbesi> this really has me stumped
[06:57] <lkthomas> wylde: is it very complex to make squashfs?
[06:58] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje or old units run a dedicated xsession for our pos, but we can login to gnome if we need to. I think there are benifits to hving a desktop running always though, then i could fix things without logging out
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: i use sux for that tnx to Dr_Willis
[06:58] <wylde> lkthomas: nope, I use it to make backups of my VPS all the time. The stock version in repos only includes gzip compression though. Which is fine if you don't really care about actually compressing the filesystem.
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !info sux | cbilljones
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: you can then sux yourusername firefox from any desktop/login
[06:59] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje i dont think i need that for what im doing
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> ok
[07:00] <wylde> lkthomas: I have a build with xz compression support in my own ppa.
[07:00] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje priv escalation is already perfect for what im doing
[07:00] <lkthomas> wylde: I want to replicate WORM on tape by using linux file system
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/47640/is-there-a-cyber-cafe-program-for-server-client-places-internet-cafe
[07:01] <cbilljones> lotuspsychje this isnt a kiosk/public machine :|
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> anyway coffetime now
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> cbilljones: gl with your security
[07:02] <cbilljones> thx
[07:03] <cbilljones> anyone else have any ideas? trying to remove "system settings" from shutdown menu - top right
[07:03] <wylde> lkthomas: I'm not familiar with WORM, but from a super quick skim of my google search on it, yes. squashfs will do that. You can even mount then export the filesystems over the network. It can preserve all file permissions, XATTRs exactly as they are on the filesystem when you make the "squashed" image.
[07:04] <wylde> !info squashfs-tools | lkthomas
[07:04] <lkthomas> wylde: I will test it for sure. Is that impossible to mount SquashFS into Read-write mode after it's created ?
[07:05] <wylde> lkthomas: no. You can append data to it, not modify or update existing data without rebuilding the entire filesystem. There are ways to make it "appear" read/write using squashfs with unionfs
[07:06] <lkthomas> wylde: what do you mean by "appear" ?
[07:06] <jonascj> I'm still having issues with my thunderbird. I does not use the profile i specify in ~/.thunderbird/profiles.ini. I've added a calendar and the calendar stays there in thunderbird no matter what profile I specify (e.g. it should disappear when I switch away from the profile for which it was defined).
[07:07] <wylde> lkthomas: not sure I can explain it properly off the top of my head. Gimme a sec. I have a link here somewhere about using squashfs with unionfs.
[07:07] <lkthomas> thanks
[07:07] <jonascj> if I remove the profiles.ini thunderbird does create a new one in the folder where the previous profiles.ini was located. This leads me to believe I have the right folder, at least.
[07:09] <wylde> lkthomas: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/SquashFS-HOWTO/  and http://www.filesystems.org/project-unionfs.html
[07:09] <lkthomas> thanks
[07:09] <lkthomas> let me have a look
[07:09] <lkthomas> OH
[07:09] <lkthomas> the first line of unionfs explain everything
[07:10] <Curtisbeef> So im still having this problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoMUu5qBypA I tried xrandr --auto and specificly setting it but i still get WSOD on the other 2 screens
[07:10] <Curtisbeef> I can use mouse just fine in other screens but it wont drag windows or anything else
[07:11] <Paulus68_1> system wide I'm using english however I discover that when I use the date time it's in German how can I adapt this to English?
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> jonascj, check .config in home
[07:11] <jonascj> wilee-nilee: Thanks - I will
[07:12] <jonascj> wilee-nilee: the .config folder holds no mozilla or thunderbird folders (or files)
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> ~/.mozilla/
[07:13] <wilee-nilee> jonascj, I was not sure.
[07:13] <Curtisbeef> can anyone help with my display problem?
[07:14] <jonascj> wilee-nilee: of course - but good suggestions :) It is as if thunderbird is ignoring what in the profiles.ini. Or of course my profiles folder could be corrupted
[07:16] <jeetpei> Hi all
[07:17] <mariostz__> hi all
[07:17] <jeetpei> i am seeing following error while copying files in samba share .. please let me know if any suggestion disk_free: sys_fsusage() failed. Error was : Permission denied
[07:17] <mariostz__> did someone got opinion for 13.10?
[07:18] <Paulus68_1> !13.10
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> does it matter? :) use it if you want.. stick to lts if you dont
[07:18] <k1l> mariostz__: for 13.10 support see #ubuntu+1 for opinions we have a talk channnel in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:19] <mariostz__> i use them now 4 days
[07:19] <mariostz__> and are ok
[07:20] <bazhang> mariostz__, discussion in #ubuntu+1 not here
[07:20] <Curtisbeef> ok so I got extended desktops working on three monitors but now I have the Unity bar and taskbar on every monitor
[07:21] <Rory> Curtisbeef: Open up Display preferences, and then you can choose between having the launcher on one display or all of them.
[07:21] <k1l> Curtisbeef: install unity-tweak-tool
[07:21] <krz> will a package for 12.04 lts work in 13.04?
[07:21] <Rory> krz: Probably, depends on what it is
[07:21] <Paulus68_1> system wide I'm using english however I discover that when I use the date time it's in German how can I adapt this to English?
[07:22] <krz> Rory: http://docs.fluentd.org/articles/install-by-deb
[07:22] <krz> fluentd
[07:22] <Rory> Paulus68_1: I have a similar problem but mine's Italian, let me know if you fix it
[07:22] <Curtisbeef> Rory: if I open Display in options i get a error saying Rand extention not present
[07:22] <k1l> krz: its not recommended to do that. most times it doesnt work because of the depencies
[07:23] <Curtisbeef> RANDR*
[07:23] <Rory> Curtisbeef: Ah, nvidia? I don't know. Maybe using unity-tweak-tool
[07:23] <Curtisbeef> na AMD
[07:26] <krz> k1l: k
[07:27] <jack4w> next ubuntu
[07:28] <jack4w> When will the next ubuntu release?.
[07:28] <iceroot> jack4w: #ubuntu+1
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !saucy|jack4w,
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> we seem to get asked that like every 20 min. ;)
[07:33] <Rory> Dr_Willis: Who thinks "I wonder when the next Ubuntu release is coming? I know, I'll open my IRC client, connect to Freenode, join #ubuntu and ask in there"
[07:34] <Rory> Dr_Willis: "gosh darn I wish there were an easier way!"
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> next they will ask if we can upgrade to final.. since ya know. you cant do release upgrades.. ;) so beta has to be the same@ ;)
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> oh wait.. thats not right. ;) oh well.  Im suprised its the 17th.  i thought it was always at the end of the month
[07:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo. anyone aware of how to disable that trackpoint/blue nipple thingie in the middle of my keyboard?
[07:35] <Paulus68_1> Rory: Go to system settings Language support then regional formats change Italian to your language
[07:35] <Paulus68_1> Rory: and hit apply system wide
[07:35] <Rory> Paulus68_1: Oh no it's ONLY the date and time applet. Everything else is fine
[07:35] <Rory> Paulus68_1: I've done that ages ago
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  unload the module controllng it?
[07:35] <cfhowlett> Rory, ONLY that command?
[07:36] <Rory> Paulus68_1: It doesn't bother me that it's ottober instead of october
[07:36] <Paulus68_1> Rory: well on my side it was in Deutsch and changed it to English :) that solved the problem
[07:37] <Rory> Paulus68_1: I'll try it again next time I'm on my laptop. It's because I installed this spin of Ubuntu which uses Mate and makes it look like the old Ubuntu Gnome2 desktop, but it's an Italian distro
[07:37] <Paulus68_1> Rory: ok
[07:38] <sgarbesi> anybody mind trying to help w/ this cronjob issue? I'm stumped
[07:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: having issue identifying it, lol. would you mind assisting?
[07:38] <Xeeshu> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-goBbiIecTSU/UlPMUdCKFYI/AAAAAAABcio/T6abLaPoDTI/w426-h411/tumblr_mubrokWa6E1qdlh1io1_400.gif
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  i got a script to turn off my touchpad. ;) it may do it.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis>  pastebinit bin/touchpad-toggle
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6212710/
[07:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: problem is this particular machine has a host of input devices, not sure which of xinput list is the right one to use. (5 point touchscreen, stylus with 2 buttons, touchpad [misdetected as ps/2 mouse unfortuneatly], trackpoint/touch nipple)
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> go down the list perhaps disabline each one?
[07:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: well I think I have the right one, but running xinput disable "the name" gives an error.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> xinput list
[07:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://sprunge.us/SbYj
[07:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> I think its that XTEST pointer
[07:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: disabling PS/2 mouse disables it, but also the actual touchpad. I have a wired usb mouse, but I'd rather like to keep my touchpad for those moments I just don't feel like dealing with additional hardware
[07:45] <sgarbesi> ./bin/sh -c breaks my command from the cron apparently
[07:45] <plague> Hello! I cannot seem to upgrade any suggestions please http://paste.ubuntu.com/6212723/
[07:48] <cfhowlett> !details|plague,
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> plague, If you use the update manager do you see partial upgrade?
[07:49] <Rory> plague: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:53] <jeetpei> !samba4
[07:53] <Vialas> hi jeetpei
[07:53] <jeetpei> Vialas: Hi
[07:55] <plague> Rory: i am using sudo apt-get -f intall, and this is what i get from it http://paste.ubuntu.com/6212755/
[07:55] <Rory> plague: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages
[07:55] <jeetpei> what's up Vialas ?
[07:56] <Rory> plague: I need to leave now, so if that doesn't work, someone else can help you. Show them that script
[07:56] <plague> Rory ok thanks
[07:56] <Ben64> Rory: that looks sketchy as all get out
[07:56] <StrangeNoises> so, anyone else getting this or know how to fix it?: On Saucy, using Firefox, Youtube audio is disabled and un-turn-onnable (shows speaker+X in the player) but other flash audio works just fine, eg: bbc news/iplayer
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> !saucy | StrangeNoises
[08:00] <Rory> Ben64: Huh?
[08:00] <Rory> Ben64: I post it all the time, have you read it?
[08:01] <Rory> Ben64: http://rory.sh/fixpackages look at what it does, it saves me a million years of time diagnosing random apt and dpkg problems
[08:01] <Ben64> yeah i did look at it
[08:01] <Ben64> just seems sketchy to download something from you and run it heh
[08:01] <Rory> lol thanks
[08:01] <Rory> Of course anyone in this channel would read a script before running it
[08:02] <Ben64> i'm not sure about that
[08:02] <Rory> Well that's their choice
[08:02] <StrangeNoises> well, that's a waste of time then
[08:02] <Rory> A certain amount of trust has to be assumed from the helpee to the helper
[08:02] <Ben64> well there are people who just try to get people to run rm /
[08:03] <jeetpei> seems so
[08:03] <jeetpei> script removing everything
[08:03] <jeetpei> lol
[08:04] <plague> Rory i read script and it seem safe, sadly still have errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6212773/
[08:05] <jeetpei> bug id 1217149 please confirm
[08:07] <wmunny> Hello everyone my first time here but I really need some help
[08:07] <Ben64> plague: what exactly are you trying to do
[08:07] <wmunny> I have tried a lot of distros om my pc finaly stopped at ubuntu but my mobile broadband wont conn3ct
[08:08] <mika__> Something weird has happened to my ubuntu. I can login through CLI (ctrl+alt+F1), but now its asking passwd on GUI side??? And it won't let me in!. etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf has all the settings that it shouldn't even ask passwd while login. Do i have virus? :D
[08:08] <plague> Ben64 well i'm just tyring to update and upgrade packages.
[08:08] <wmunny> The only distro that it worked out of the box was debian
[08:09] <jeetpei> plague: can you check bug id 1160346.
[08:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> what a pain =_=
[08:09] <wmunny> So if some one could help me??
[08:09] <Ben64> jeetpei: don't just highlight random people to get them to fix your problems : /
[08:10] <Ben64> plague: have you tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:10] <wmunny> So there is a way to use the debian networkmanager on ubuntu 13.04
[08:10] <cfhowlett> wmunny, have you even tried ubuntu's network manager?
[08:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> well, I have a more ubuntu specific question. launchpad wants me to test against testing kernel 3.12, but idk if an iso with that has it. I know there were debs for 3.11, but that doesn't help in a live environment; so can I build an ubuntu iso with 3.12?
[08:11] <wmunny> Cfhowlett : yes it shows my signal level but it wont connect
[08:12] <plague> Ben64 now i have does not help  System.map-3.5.0-41-generic
[08:12] <plague> sorry wrong paste
[08:12] <plague> Ben64 6.90.92.rev.sfr.net) has joined channel #ubuntu
[08:12] <Ben64> ...
[08:12] <plague> excuse me
[08:13] <mika__> i have to add that this problem just started and i haven't done anything else but update all the packages what default updatemanager wants.
[08:30] <dhruvasagar> Hey anybody using ubuntu on macbook ?
[08:30] <vlt> !anyone | dhruvasagar
[08:30] <dhruvasagar> I tried upgrading kernel to 3.8 by installing the raring backports version, but my wireless doesn't work
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: what wifi chip?
[08:31] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: broadcom
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: which broadcom?
[08:32] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: how can I tell ?/
[08:33] <dhruvasagar> bcm57765
[08:33] <dhruvasagar> sorry
[08:33] <dhruvasagar> bcm4331
[08:33] <dhruvasagar> I got it working by installing b43-firmware
[08:34] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: by following this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Oneiric#Wireless
[08:34] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: but if I upgrade my kernel it doesn't work.
[08:34] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: http://mergy.org/2013/03/ubuntu-kernel-updates-mess-up-wireless-on-macbook-pro-82/ should I try this ?
[08:42] <asdf11> When I install AMD Drivers for HD 7950 (13.4) I got blackscreen after reboot, this have happen 5 times in a row. Can somebody please assist me? I have followed both AMD guide and ubuntu wiki
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> You checked askubuntu.com about tha specific chipset?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: reinstall the broadcom driver packags, may help / show the issue
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: why do you need the 2.8 kernel?
[08:43] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: not 2.8, 3.8
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: 3.8, sorry
[08:43] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: wanted to try docker
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: why isthe 3.5 or 3.2 not doing what you need?
[08:43] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: docker suggested for the upgrade
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> !info docker
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: just checked the site
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: seems docker is in the repos :)
[08:45] <dhruvasagar> Dr_Willis: thanks, I didn't realize docker is available in the repo
[08:45] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: yea just noticed :)
[08:46] <dhruvasagar> new
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: always check the repos, makes life easier
[08:47] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: true
[08:47] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help :)
[08:48] <white-howler> hello can some one tell me how to install this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 on the ubuntu 13.04 " i need to downgrade my actual one to this version"
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> !find gir-networkmanager
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> what version is in the 13.04 repos?
[08:49] <white-howler> 0.9.8
[08:49] <mika__> maybe dr_willis can help me with my problem? :)
[08:49] <white-howler> and i need 0.9.4
[08:50] <mika__> i wrote everything while ago so i will copy it again.
[08:50] <mika__> Something weird has happened to my ubuntu. I can login through CLI (ctrl+alt+F1), but now its asking passwd on GUI side??? And it won't let me in!. etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf has all the settings that it shouldn't even ask passwd while login. Do i have virus? :D
[08:51] <gordonjcp> mika__: screensaver lock?
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> sudo service lightdm restart   and restart  X perhaps? ;)
[08:52] <mika__> gordonjcp: well it shouldn't be. i did shutdown my desktop normally. so it shouldn't ask me anything. Anyway, my passwd doesn't work on GUI.
[08:52] <mika__> Dr_Willis: i try that already but it didn't help
[08:52] <MickS> mika__: do you have multiple keyboard layouts installed, and have some weird chars in your password that translate differently on different keyboard mappings?
[08:53] <mika__> MickS:  no i dont have.  finnish mapping :)
[08:53] <bitnumus> can anyone tell me where the hell 'imagewriter' is in ubuntu 13.04 ?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> !find imagewriter
[08:53] <MickS> mika__: and you don't see the icon in your GUI which perhaps maps it to EN or something similar?
[08:54] <bitnumus> Dr_Willis,
[08:54] <bitnumus> that didnt help did it /
[08:54] <bitnumus> has it just disappeared or something
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> i dont even know what imageweriter does.
[08:54] <bitnumus> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+package/usb-imagewriter
[08:54] <mika__> MickS: im now on windows side because i have dual boot. but the passwd is normal there isn't any symbols
[08:55] <bitnumus> it writes images i guess,  .img filetype
[08:55] <bitnumus> package link is above, but its not in the repos ?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> .img dosent really mean anything as far as i know.
[08:55] <hillary> how do i crack into forgoten password in my router in ubuntu 12.04
[08:55] <MickS> mika__: another thing I can think of... do you have your homedir encrypted and recently changed your password of your account (and forgetting to change the password of your encrypted homedir)?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> is this  a hard disk image? a cd rom image?
[08:56] <mika__> MickS: i dont have encryption on and like i said..CLI side my passwd works...but not in GUI side :) so i haven't done any changes
[08:57] <llutz> mika__: check "ls -ld /tmp" "df -h /tmp" "ls -l ~./Xauthority"
[08:57] <MickS> mika__: both options I said have the effect that CLI works, but GUI doesn't, so it would have been possibilities. However... I'm out of options now what else it could be .. I hope someone else here has some bright ideas
[08:58] <llutz> mika__: "df -h" not only tmp, sry
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> mika__: do you run commands like "sudo gedit" and "sudo nautilus" ?
[08:58] <llutz> mika__: so check "ls -ld /tmp" "df -h" "ls -l ~/.Xauthority"
[08:58] <mika__> ActionParsnip: yes i do sometimes...
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> mika__: this will cause the issue
[08:59] <mika__> ActionParsnip: why? :D
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> mika__: sudo is NOT suitable for GUI apps, you need to use gksudo or this will keep happening
[08:59] <asdf11> God of users, can somebody explain why I can't install AMD Drivers (13.4) for HD 7950? I got blackscreen after reboot!
[08:59] <njsg> why? sudo keeps $HOME from the non-root user or something?
[08:59] <MickS> sudo makes files become root owned
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> mika__: boot to root recovery mode (assuming your user is named 'foo'):   chown -R foo:foo /home/foo
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> njsg: sudo doesnt set up the environment  correctly for GUI apps
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> I dont use ati.  :)
[09:00] <nb-ben> try sudo echo $HOME
[09:00] <mika__> ActionParsnip: thank you very much :) i will try that soon
[09:01] <MickS> explanation about sudo vs. gksudo:  http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> mika__: you can technically use gksudo for both GUI and CLI
[09:01] <mika__> ActionParsnip: ok!
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> mika__: it makes the ~/.Xauthority owned which is why llutz was asking for its ownership
[09:04] <mika__> ActionParsnip: ahaa. hmm... well i didn't know this. i have using ubuntu a long time, but only now it happened to me :)
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> !gksudo | mika__
[09:04] <njsg> ActionParsnip: what do you mean "properly"? I've used su for graphical applications in the past and things never broke. but that said, I usually do "su - "
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> njsg: su is to switch user, so you can use that to run apps as other users
[09:05] <njsg> ActionParsnip: I am aware...
[09:05] <llutz> njsg: using plain su - you needed to set display/xauth too
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> njsg: so how do yu run a command, as another command?
[09:06] <njsg> ActionParsnip: yeah
[09:06] <llutz> that's why (broken) "sux" exists
[09:06] <njsg> I never ever use sudo, only now do I use computers with sudo on a daily basis and I just "sudo su"
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> njsg: you mean 'as root' right?
[09:07] <llutz> njsg: why not using the recommended way "sudo -i"
[09:07] <njsg> ActionParsnip: of course. that's kinda implied by "using su" :-)
[09:07] <njsg> llutz: what does that do?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> njsg: you do know that:  sudo -i   will give you root prompt using your user's profile, so enabling the root account as you have, is not needed
[09:08] <llutz> njsg: gives you a root-shell and sets correct root-env
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> njsg: the fact that you are asking what that dos should be screaming to you to disable the root account
[09:08] <llutz> njsg: man sudo
[09:08] <njsg> llutz: I don't have sudo on this machine, I can't RTFM
[09:08] <njsg> if I had, I'd have looked it up
[09:08] <k1l> !sudo | njsg
[09:08] <llutz> njsg: man-pages are available in teh web
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> njsg: its default installed in Ubuntu
[09:09] <njsg> ActionParsnip: I am aware
[09:09] <k1l> and i dont know of an ubuntu without sudo
[09:09] <njsg> I'll check on sudo -i on the ubuntu machine I use, then
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> k1l: i think its a dep of most things too
[09:09] <llutz> ActionParsnip: sudo -i uses roots env, not users profile
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> llutz: i thought sudo -s   used roots...
[09:10] <llutz> ActionParsnip: other way round
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> llutz: ahhhh
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> llutz: thanks
[09:10] <llutz> ActionParsnip: -i = initial login
[09:10] <njsg> I know that with su, asking for a login shell seems to get me a clean environment
[09:10] <njsg> ah, then sudo -i is kinda the same as su - ?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> njsg: yes
[09:10] <llutz> njsg: kinda, su  needs an active root account, sudo -i doesn't
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> njsg: this is why you dont need to enable the root account in Ubuntu and why keeping it locked is a good idea
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> njsg: but people seem to 'know better' and enable it
[09:11] <llutz> because its kewl to have root....
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> llutz: sed s/kewl/dumb/g !!
[09:14] <njsg> ActionParsnip: I prefer to have root accounts on my computer
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> njsg: why?
[09:15] <njsg> for a start, why shouldn't I? if I don't have a root account, I need to have some other user accont where I can log in to root
[09:15] <llutz> njsg: you always should have other account, root is not an account to work with
[09:16] <llutz> and surely not an account to (rmeote) login with
[09:16]  * cfhowlett ... Thinks "Some people always gotta iceskate uphill."
[09:16] <ivebeenlinuxed> I can see both sides - root account allows a group of "admins" to be able to log onto a PC with all permissions - very good when turnover is high
[09:16] <k1l> njsg: please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:16] <llutz> ivebeenlinuxed: so does sudo
[09:16] <njsg> llutz: root is an account to administer a machine
[09:16] <ivebeenlinuxed> however not having a root account allows for better accountability - as `last` will show exactly which "root user" gave the instruction which screwed everything up
[09:17] <k1l> please drop the windows-mentality to be always logged in with the "admin" account
[09:17] <njsg> I'd even go as far as saying that I'd actually prefer to keep root completely separate from my main account
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> njsg: if you have sudo, you dont need it. You are reducing enabled accounts. Root is also common on al Linux boxes so is prime for brute force attacks
[09:17] <k1l> njsg: no its not on ubuntu
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> njsg: again, why?
[09:17] <k1l> njsg: please see the link i gave you twice now
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> njsg: you can use sudo and have exectly the same access as root.
[09:18] <ivebeenlinuxed> llutz: yes, but with high turnover you have to keep adding and removing accounts
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> njsg: you can also control who has access with the sudo group rather than everything done as root with no accountability
[09:18] <k1l> i know its common to be root all day in other distros. but its not recommended in ubuntu. thats it
[09:18] <llutz> njsg: i know, i'm using linux since a while. still, there is hardly need to login as root
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> its just dumb and people who enable it imho, don't know what they are doing or enable it for the sake of it when its not a good idea
[09:19] <llutz> ivebeenlinuxed: sudo logs who/when works with sudo-rights -> better control, more important
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> njsg: so, why do you enable root?
[09:19] <njsg> because it was already enabled. and I prefer it that way, so I keep it that way
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> njsg: not in Ubuntu its not
[09:20] <ivebeenlinuxed> ActionParsnip: I disagree. I enable it on a key-based authentication in case the LDAP server goes down - but I'm the only one with the id_rsa
[09:20] <njsg> ActionParsnip: I am not saying it is.
[09:20] <bitnumus> can someone tell me why this package doesnt seem to be in the repo ?
[09:20] <bitnumus> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+package/usb-imagewriter
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> njsg: well this is Ubuntu support, so its not enabled
[09:20] <isoCharset> hi...how can i know what charset is being used in a mounted network device'?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> isoCharset: mount    may tell you
[09:21] <ivebeenlinuxed> llutz: I agree, it has better control - I would only use it if LDAP decided not to work
[09:21] <k1l> so we talk about a not_ubuntu and argue about the ubuntu way? come on, this is an ubuntu support channel
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> bitnumus: does usb-creator-gtk   do the same?
[09:21] <isoCharset> ActionParsnip: mount just tells it's mounted using cifs...nothing aout hte charset
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> isoCharset: gah
[09:21] <bitnumus> if thats the 'startup disk creator' then no
[09:21] <isoCharset> gah?
[09:21] <bitnumus> ActionParsnip, where is this package??
[09:21] <bitnumus> why is it on that page but i can't install it
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> bitnumus: you can use dd to put img files on USB
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> bitnumus: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-imagewriter/+changelog
[09:22] <bitnumus> ActionParsnip, i know there are other options, but i want to know where its gone
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> bitnumus: Deleted in raring-release (Reason: requested by ~pitti/~ogra; depends on very old APIs inclu...)
[09:22] <bitnumus> meh
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> bitnumus: from the link I just gave you....
[09:25] <isoCharset> hi...how can i know what charset is being used in a mounted network device'?
[09:25] <njsg> isoCharset: check "mount", it should show a charset option, if there is any set
[09:26] <njsg> if there is none set, it should be using your current locale; you may need to use encoding translations when mounting, say, for windows stuff
[09:26] <isoCharset> njsg: none is set...so mount tells nothing...but some one mustve been used...which one? how can i get to know?
[09:27] <sgo11> hi, my evolution is getting crazy. It is refreshing INBOX and retrieving messages forever. I have many mail accounts. NOW, I disabled all of them and left only one enabled. but it still does not work. How to solve this issue? clean evolution cache somehow? thanks.
[09:27] <llutz> isoCharset: "locale" or "echo $LANG"
[09:27] <isoCharset> njsg: how can i know my current locale, then?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: can you ping mail servers? Is your partition full?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: is the partition storing data mounted read only? have you run out of inodes?
[09:28] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, I can ping mail servers. my partition is not full.
[09:28] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, I don't think my partition has any problems.
[09:28] <isoCharset> I got two computers....on one echo $LANG = ca_ES.utf8 ..... on the other one echo $LANG = ca_ES.UTF-8...why is that slightly different?
[09:29] <njsg> isoCharset: both utf8 and UTF-8 are ok
[09:29] <njsg> it's something in glibc, I think. you can ask it to generate utf8 or UTF-8, which is the same
[09:29] <isoCharset> but they mount the device differently....one characters are well read....on the other one they are'nt
[09:29] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, since evolution is just refreshing folders all the time. I kill -9 it many times and disabled mail accounts and only left one.
[09:29] <isoCharset> and command used to mount is exactly the same
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: if you run:  df -i   have you ran out of inodes?
[09:31] <njsg> isoCharset: and the options shown by "mount" are the same, too?
[09:32] <njsg> isoCharset: and I thought I understood a bit of this charset mapping thing, apparently I don't
[09:34] <isoCharset> in one mount more info is given than in the other one....but nothing as for charset or codepage
[09:34] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, no. the output looks good. I don't think my partition has any problems. The problem is caused by evolution bug. I think I need to clean its cache somehow. let me describe my problem in more detail: I have 10 mail accounts. two mail servers are blocked by firewall today. evolution are refreshing INBOX forever. I killall -9 evolution many times and disabled 9 accounts and left only 1 account w
[09:34] <sgo11> hose mail server is good. but now, it's still refreshing forever.
[09:38] <jnor> hi running ubuntu in a VM with bridged adapter, I can ssh into the vm from my host but the vm has no internet (ubuntu server)
[09:38] <ikonia> jnor: check it's route out and it's dns resolution on the guest
[09:38] <sgo11> I don't know how to clean evolution's cache. this must be evolution's bug. I just want to workaround this issue. evolution must go crazy with its configuration and cache somehow.
[09:38] <ikonia> jnor: connection between the host and the guest is different to connection being forwarded from the guest to the host to the internet
[09:38] <ikonia> jnor: also what virtualization technology are you using
[09:39] <jnor> Im using virtualbox
[09:44] <exalt> http://i.imgur.com/QogspvJ.png <-- why is my startpage turkish ?
[09:44] <exalt> im dutch ...
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> exalt: are you sure you configged your keyboard and language to dutch?
[09:46] <exalt> dutch is applied systemwide
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> exalt: did you updated your system and rebooted after?
[09:47] <exalt> yes
[09:48] <exalt> fixed now
[09:49] <jnor> ikonia http://pastebin.com/AzPbZ8QA
[09:50] <ikonia> jnor: I didn't ask for that, I asked for YOU to check your guests default route, and dns server settings as these are the most common problems
[09:51] <jnor> I have no clue what is wrong so if you catched anything holla
[09:52] <ikonia> jnor: actually CHECK what I told you to check
[09:52] <Vialas> hi guys
[09:52] <Vialas> can anyome help me use NPM ?
[09:52] <ikonia> jnor: you wont have any idea what's wrong, until you CHECK what I told you to check
[09:52] <jnor> im not running any dns server my route seems right
[09:53] <ikonia> jnor: your guest will need to point at a dns server, look were it's point
[09:53] <ikonia> jnor: what is your default route
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> !info npm
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> Vialas: best is to shoot your specific issue on it in chat
[09:54] <jnor> default s
[09:55] <ikonia> jnor: what ?
[09:57] <jnor> the route is in the pastebin
[09:57] <sgo11> anyway, I give up evolution. it just does not make any sense. my android mail app can receive imap emails without any problems. but evolution is just broken today. maybe it's time to switch back to thunderbird.
[09:57] <ihre> What is the best way to discover what is causing a high cpu wait time? I cant monitor top or iostat 24/7 ofcourse
[09:57] <ikonia> jnor: what is your default route of the guest, just answer the question, if you want help, if you don't want help, fine
[09:58] <ikonia> ihre: why do you think you have high cpu wait time ?
[09:58] <ikonia> ihre: you only monitor the machine when you have high wait time if you can't do it 24x7
[09:59] <anton_eh> does it matter where you  make-install a tarball from on host computer?
[09:59] <ikonia> anton_eh: yes, it must be where the make file is that holds the target "install"
[09:59] <llutz> !checkinstall | anton_eh you shouldn't use make install at all
[10:01] <ihre> ikonia: I've just installed Zabbix and added 1 host, which reports "Disk I/O is overloaded on CLIENT" every 10 mins, Disk I/O is a trigger connected to cpu iowait. I understand that state "D" in top is common for processes that are waiting for I/O. Top also reports a cpu wait of ~4%.
[10:02] <ikonia> ihre: normally you will find it the other way around, that cpu wait is caused by disk/io wait, not disk i/o wait caused by CPU
[10:02] <malinator> ihre: you can also try some kind of monitoring utils like cacti ... http://www.linuxscrew.com/2012/03/22/linux-monitoring-tools/
[10:03] <llutz> malinator: zabbix IS a monitoring util
[10:04] <ihre> malinator: I've worked with Cacti, yet I wish to learn Zabbix. ikonia: you're right, I've told it in the wrong way. I'm trying to find all processes with top state D at the moment, like described on http://bencane.com/2012/08/06/troubleshooting-high-io-wait-in-linux/
[10:04] <malinator> llutz: yes , its mentioned on link
[10:08] <ihre> malinator: problem is, all sorts of monitoring tools report the same problems, yet it can be difficult to pinpoint what the actual issue is.
[10:09] <DeepBlue> i wanna extract daa and uif  files
[10:11] <llutz> !info daa2iso | DeepBlue see uif2iso too, cnvert into iso, extract, done
[10:22] <sunny_le> i have an usb drive having fat filesystem, when i am mounting it is telling specify the file system type, but doing with -t option still it fails.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> sunny_le: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS?
[10:23] <sunny_le> ActionParsnip, i mistakenly removed it, when the data transfer was still going on.
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> sunny_le: then you may want to fsck the partition to make sure it is healthy
[10:24] <sunny_le> ActionParsnip, will it work as the file system is FAT ?
[10:25] <sunny_le> because till i know it repairs only linux filesystem
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> sunny_le: yes as the definitions for FAT are open and known
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> sunny_le: there is fsck.vfat
[10:25] <sunny_le> ActionParsnip, ok
[10:27] <njsg> sunny_le: fsck is a wrapper that calls the appropriate tool, if any
[10:27] <njsg> the ones that work on linux filesystems still depend on the filesystem, say, fsck.ext3
[10:27] <geirha> you'll likely have to install an additional package to get fsck for fat
[10:27] <njsg> same for hfsplus and hfs
[10:29] <debfan> can someone help me with an ntp problem?   my time is out ... I think it's called an 'offset'
[10:29] <debfan> it's out 4 hrs and I want to sync it with a server but I don't know how
[10:30] <sunny_le> njsg, hoping to solve the prob now
[10:30] <njsg> debfan: you need to run ntp-client or somehow force a simple "set to the remote date"
[10:31] <debfan> njsg: how?
[10:31] <debfan> I have ntp and ntpdate installed
[10:31] <njsg> I mean, I am not sure if ntpd wouldn't do that automatically, maybe it does for large skews
[10:31] <njsg> let me see how is it handled here
[10:31] <BrixSat> :)
[10:31] <ikonia> njsg: you  can't sync a drift bigger then 300 seconds, so you'd need to use ntpdate to set the time in sync, then ntpd to keep it in sync
[10:32] <debfan> the last thing i did is run ntpdate -s ntp.ubuntu.com
[10:32] <debfan> but, nothing output
[10:32] <ikonia> njsg: sorry, that was meant for debfan
[10:32] <njsg> debfan: ah, ntp-client uses ntpdate here
[10:32] <njsg> debfan: the usual thing in UNIX is for commands to output nothing if they do what they are expected to do
[10:32] <njsg> did the clock time change?
[10:33] <debfan> I have no idea what to do...  the problem is the display was showing UTC time - which was the wrong local time
[10:33] <njsg> debfan: oh, -s sends output to syslog
[10:33] <debfan> so, I manually changed it and now it's out 4 hrs
[10:33] <njsg> maybe try without the -s
[10:33] <CatKiller> debfan: Use the timezone package instead
[10:33] <njsg> you can also do -v for more verbosity
[10:34] <CatKiller> debfan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[10:34] <njsg> wait, one thing is the timezone, the other is the clock sync
[10:34] <debfan> can you tell me which command to use then?
[10:34] <njsg> do what CatKiller said, the clock sync will set the clock (in UTC terms) correctly
[10:34] <ikonia> debfan: I've already told you, you'd need to use ntpdate to set the time as it's over 300 seconds, then use ntpd to keep it in sync
[10:34] <CatKiller> It seems here that it's not that the clock was out of sync 4 hours, but that the clock was set 4 hours in the past/future to compensate for the timezone
[10:34] <njsg> debfan: it should involve setting /etc/timezone and something else
[10:35] <njsg> ah, /etc/localtime, too
[10:35] <CatKiller> The link I pasted has all the info: GUI, command line, and also explains how to keep the time in sync
[10:35] <debfan> okay, slow down guys, please :)
[10:36] <njsg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Using_the_Command_Line_.28unattended.29 <-- jeps, I guess the reconfigure sets /etc/localtime
[10:36] <debfan> the time zone is set properly now...  I used... your how-to
[10:36] <sunny_le> njsg, what command to use ?  i am using this but no good result sudo dosfsck -w -r -l -a -v -t /dev/sdc1
[10:36] <debfan> I ran $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[10:36] <debfan> but
[10:37] <debfan> wait
[10:37] <debfan> think we're fixed now
[10:37] <sunny_le> njsg, also tried fsck.vfat /dev/sdd1 but same results.
[10:38] <debfan> thanks, guys!
[10:39] <CatKiller> sunny_le: What's the error message btw?
[10:39] <debfan> ikonia, njsg, Cat*what?* ;-)  .. you guys rule!   it's good now, I think
[10:39] <sunny_le> CatKiller, bogus number of FAT structure, can't find a valid FAT filesystem
[10:40] <CatKiller> sunny_le: What filesystem is supposed to be on sdd1?
[10:40] <CatKiller> Fat32?
[10:40] <sunny_le> vfat
[10:40] <Uragan> hi there!
[10:40] <sunny_le> yeah
[10:40] <arussel> I'm starting a java app that waits for input. I want it to keep running after I exit so I did: 'nohup java …   &' , but it still stops, any hint on what I'm doing wrong ?
[10:41] <CatKiller> sunny_le: You could use "testdisk" to try and access the filesystem
[10:41] <CatKiller> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[10:41] <CatKiller> then "sudo testdisk /dev/sdd1"
[10:42] <anhhungven> hi... wanna know how to install ubuntu on my smartphone?
[10:42] <geirha> arussel: It won't get any input if you background it.
[10:44] <sunny_le> CatKiller, testdisk ?
[10:44] <crocket> I'm using chromium 28.0.x.
[10:44] <geirha> arussel: Or maybe the issue is something else. The description is a bit vague so far.
[10:44] <crocket> When will I get a newer version of chromium?
[10:44] <crocket> I'm on ubuntu 13.04
[10:44] <CatKiller> sunny_le: It's a utility designed to recover partitions but it can also read filesystems. Basically to see if testdisk can detect the filesystem in question
[10:45] <geirha> arussel: "waits for input" from where? what does it do when it reaches end of input? "after I exit", exit what?
[10:45] <arussel> geirha: I don't want it to have any input, I just want it to wait, but somehow, adding nohup makes it stop
[10:45] <arussel> geirha: the user
[10:45] <arussel> exit the shell I used to run the command
[10:46] <geirha> arussel: so it wants input from the terminal? You deprive it of the possibility of that. So then it's up to the app how it chooses to handle that.
[10:46] <CatKiller> Once you run "testdisk" on your partition, select "proceed", choose "None" for partition type (sdd1 is already a partition, therefore non partitionned itself), then "Advanced", and there you should "see" your filesystem
[10:47] <geirha> arussel: Perhaps you'll want to run it with screen or tmux instead.
[10:47] <CatKiller> I think with FAT32 you might be able to browse the files
[10:47] <thinknow> Hi, why dosnt the software updater give me the chance to upgrade? I was waiting for bitcoin wallet to synch, and i got notification that i had to make a partial upgrade before i finish to upgrade to 13.04 (First 12.10. then 13.04 as i suppose you understand, i have 12.04, fresh install) Now when i check the software up to date, it just say its nothing, i have tried apt-get upgrade as well
[10:47] <CatKiller> otherwise you can create an image from the filesystem and then you could store this somewhere to fsck it
[10:47] <sunny_le> CatKiller, following what you said
[10:48] <arussel> geirha: screen might be better
[10:50] <crocket> Why was /etc/skel/.bashrc not copied to ~/.bashrc when I created a new account in ubuntu setup?
[10:50] <CatKiller> sunny_le: Some background on testdisk: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[10:51] <geirha> crocket: You probably used useradd instead of adduser
[10:52] <crocket> geirha, no
[10:52] <crocket> geirha, ubuntu graphical setup wizard had a user registration step.
[10:52] <crocket> I created a user there.
[10:52] <geirha> Oh, then it should've copied skel. That's odd.
[10:53] <geirha> crocket: It did create the homedirectory though?
[10:54] <Ponch0> hey room, how do I gcc and g++ to my path environment, or if it's possible, how do I install it so it's automatically added?
[10:55] <Ponch0> add*
[10:55] <arussel> geirha: any idea how to run a command in screen from a script ?
[10:55] <crocket> geirha, yes
[10:55] <crocket> geirha, .profile was copied.
[10:55] <crocket> .bashrc wasn't copied.
[10:55] <crocket> hmm
[10:55] <crocket> I could have removed .bashrc by accident, so I'll go check another ubuntu installation tomorrow morning.
[10:56] <geirha> arussel: screen -S nameofscreen -d -m java foo.bar
[10:58] <arussel> geirha: thanks
[11:01] <sunny_le> CatKiller, all that info was really useful :)
[11:02] <rapid> hi all , got this in console - nedd help what to do now ....xubuntu 13.10 beta 64bit....Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:02] <rapid> can someone help please
[11:04] <rapid> must tell you , that i used linux since a half year.....so my known is like a beginner...
[11:05] <Cute-Pianist> Ahoy hoy
[11:05] <Ben64> rapid: 13.10 support in #ubuntu+1 until release
[11:05] <ikonia> rapid: if you are new to linux, why are you not using the stable release until you get better
[11:05] <arussel> geirha: reading the man page, I would expect: 'screen -S foo -d -m ls' and then screen -list to show me foo as a session, but it just says no socket found. Shouldn't it start a new screen session and run 'ls' in it ?
[11:06] <Cute-Pianist> Boy it's quite in here
[11:06] <rapid> ikonia - its because i hope im right with the newest one
[11:07] <Ponch0> what is build-essential and do I need it?
[11:07] <kostkon> !info build-essential
[11:09] <Ponch0> ah thank u
[11:09] <arussel> geirha: got it, it does close the screen session when the command ends, which is not my case. Thanks again for your help
[11:11] <u3>  i cant get any sound in totem movie player
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> u3: do you get sound in other apps?
[11:11] <Dai_1987_> u3: use VLC
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> sound works otherwise? does the video play with sound in other players u3 ?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> u3: also, what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Dai_1987: if there is no sound in the system, it is irrelevant of the player
[11:13] <sunny_le> CatKiller, i got the details of the pendrive
[11:13] <sunny_le> how can i copy all those contents ?
[11:13] <u3> yes i get soind in other apes
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> apes...hahaha
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> u3: ok thats a good start, what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[11:13] <Dai_1987> I should think so, apes aren;t known for their silence
[11:13] <u3> ?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> u3: run the command in a terminal and give the output
[11:15] <u3> run what command
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> u3: cat /etc/issue
[11:15] <u3> thanks
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Sort of makes it hard to help if they keep leaveing. ;)
[11:19] <sunny_le> CatKiller, successfully done thank you :)
[11:20] <krypto> how can we upgrade kernel modules and package with out using apt,i have generated .deb packages from source
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> krypto: you will need to use dkms
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> !dkms
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> if you made a .deb err.. dont you like need to use apt/dpkg/gdebi/whatever to install the .deb   or am i missing somtning here
[11:25] <arussel> wasn't the all point of .deb to be installed with dpkg ?
[11:26] <krypto> using dpkg will it upgrade current version with out removing it
[11:26] <krypto> apt is having an old version
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> i think you may need to clarify exctly what you are doing.  I sence some details are missing  here.
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> krypto: what are you updating exactly?
[11:32] <DeepBlue> i downloaded the poweriso linux version package from the poweriso site ,but i don't no how 2 install  it
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> whats poweriso? whats the exact file name?
[11:34] <DeepBlue> Dr_Willis: poweriso-1.3.tar.gz
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> so its an archive you extract and look at whats in it.. see if it has some docs included. or if the web site has some instll docs
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> extract and run the binary in the extracted folder, is commonplace
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[11:36] <kaddi> hi
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: and what are you wanting to use poweriso for? There are plenty of packages to do poweriso stuff
[11:36] <DeepBlue> ActionParsnip: Linux Mint 15 Olivia \n \l
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: not suppported here
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> !mint | DeepBlue
[11:36] <kaddi> has anybody here installed ubuntu on a samsung ativ book 9? (940x3g). Is it safe to do so or can it brick the machine? How well does linux run on it?
[11:37] <DeepBlue> ActionParsnip: i wanna extract daa and uif files
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: your distribution is not supported in this channel or any of the ubuntu support channels
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> plus youve allredy basically been told what to do. :) extract the archive run the binaries in it. (or read its readme files in the archive)
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> i wonder when the last time poweriso for linux was even updated..  so many of these companies come out with linux versions of their apps.. then never update them
[11:39]  * James_WB shrugs 
[11:39] <James_WB> linux has a pretty low market share
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> James_WB: so?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> mow $$ because thers so many free apps that do the jobs these companies want to charge you for. ;)
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> low money from linux users. ;)
[11:40] <James_WB> ^^^
[11:41] <James_WB> or at least not enough to make it worthwhile
[11:41] <DeepBlue> Dr_Willis: i already have  but it asks for applications to open it
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> yet INtel and Nvidia and HP have supported Linux for years
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> I still find k3b beats most of the  burning apps that you 'pay' for on windows.
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> weird, despite having 'low market share'
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: you use CDs?
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> DeepBlue:  use the shell, dont double click.  run the binaries.. or read the docs if it has any
[11:41] <James_WB> hey we are talking about power iso and not hardware :p
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  i got a stack here i must have bought 3 years ago.
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> James_WB: its still drivers, which are software
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> havent gone through the stack of 100 in 3 yers. :)
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: not used even a USB drive outside of OS installs
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: SFTP baby
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> Tempted to remove the cd/dvd/drive from  my other pc for more HD bays.
[11:42] <James_WB> i havnt ever used power iso ..
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> I do think i burnt some music cd's for an friends old car a few months back. ;)
[11:43] <Uragan> hi there! can help? i have ubuntu 12.04 and on load see error "hd0 no on the disk" and then BusyBox  whith initramfs...  what to do?
[11:43] <krypto> ActionParsnip Dr_Willis i have openvswitch version 1.4 running which lacks some features,i want to upgrade but ubuntu repo doesn't have this,so i generated .deb from latest source.Now i want my current version to be upgraded with out removing existing version
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> Uragan:  you sure it says 'hd0' ?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> There is mounty for Linux too, or just use 'mount' to do it manually
[11:45] <Uragan> yes..  HD0
[11:45] <Uragan> you mean mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ?
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> actually grub uses the term HD# i think.
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> Id have to say try that boot-repair tool for starters. it fixs most issues people seem to have.
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> !fix-grub
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[11:47] <Uragan> fixgrub - not found
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> read what the bot said....
[11:48] <crocket> How do I get a new version of chromium without PPA?
[11:48] <crocket> chromium is already too old
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> the urls it gave 0 detail how to fix the grub using the boot-repair tools
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> crocket: what is in the new version you need?
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  compile from source perhaps?
[11:48] <Hulahoop> So, hi everyone
[11:49] <crocket> ActionParsnip, sourcemap support
[11:49] <crocket> It's old
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> easier to use a ppa. ;)
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> crocket: why are you averse to the PPA?
[11:49] <crocket> chromium 28.0.x doesn't recognize //# sourceMappingURL.
[11:49] <KettleCoo> I'm on Ubuntu server 12.04, and I want to install an older version of VSFTPD (apt-get install renders a newer version than what I want) - here's the older version: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ppa/+build/2976214 - how do I install that?
[11:49] <crocket> ActionParsnip, chromium should be maintained up to date by ubuntu.
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> crocket: its not a rolling-release distro, so no, it won't be bang up to date
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> !backports
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> crocket: https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop/+archive/chromium-dev   compiled 25 weeks ago
[11:50] <Ben64> KettleCoo: why older? its important to keep ftp servers updated, they're attacked a lot
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> crocket: although 28 is in raring universe
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> 25 weeks! thats way to old.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: if its not the version from next month which the devs havent even made, it's too old
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> I want the version from 2019!
[11:51] <loa> Hello
[11:52] <Ponch0> hello room, I just made an .sh file executable to install a program, but when I double click it, it opens it in gedit and freezes?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: the file extension means nothing in Linux
[11:53] <loa> I have strange problem, my ubuntu is working 24/7 and sometimes when i am not near computer it going to idle and stop responding on commands from keyboard and mouse
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0:  dont double click it.. unless you want to make a .desktop file to launch it..
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: did you right click the file and tell it to run in a terminal in the file properties
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> then you run the launcher
[11:53] <loa> and looks like it just halts (
[11:53] <loa> somebody had such issue?
[11:53] <Ponch0> Ooooohh ok.
[11:53] <KettleCoo> Ben64: There's some sort of bug, "libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel", this is a desperate resort to try and see if an older version could actually work.
[11:54] <Ponch0> thank you.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: this isn't windows, the '.sh' file does nothing but look messy
[11:54] <Ben64> KettleCoo: unlikely to be a bug
[11:55] <fishcooker> i've ubuntu box server with xserver with touch screen.. how to detect the touchscreen precisely
[11:55] <KettleCoo> Ben64: From the numerous threads I've found, especially the ones most up to date, seems to indicate it could be a bug but I'm not sure
[11:56] <KettleCoo> Ben64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1937131&page=2
[11:56] <KettleCoo> (last comment is the last trace I could find of this issue)
[11:56] <Ponch0> ActionParsnip: ok ok, easy I was able to run it from the terminal by typing sh file.sh
[11:57] <Ben64> KettleCoo: you use the whole mysql thing?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: if you right click the file, you can tick a box to tell the OS to run it in a terminal
[11:58] <Ponch0> Didn't see it but thank you anyway
[11:59] <KettleCoo> Ben64: Yeah I use auth pam_mysql.so for my virtual users. And pwdfile for one local user. It works if I use only one of the auth methods, but whenever both are activated this error is returned to the ftp client.
[11:59] <KettleCoo> KettleCoo: libpam-ldap is installed as well (many suggest this to be a fix but it seems to make no difference)
[11:59] <fishcooker> i've ubuntu box server with xserver with touch screen.. how to detect the touchscreen accurately?
[12:00] <Ben64> switch to sftp or proftpd? : /
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: anything but ftp
[12:00] <Ben64> !patience | fishcooker
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: udev should pick it up, or you can add rules to make it detect properly if it doesnt
[12:00] <Uragan> ubottu good article...but how cat i call this grub menu during startup?
[12:01] <Uragan> sheet )
[12:01] <Uragan> how can i call  Grub menu on startup ?
[12:01] <Ben64> mash the left shift key
[12:01] <vijaya> I am using openpli-oe-core for settopbox applications, to build an image for target arm I have to use this command, MACHINE=<....> make image, but how to know which machine name I have to  use to build image for arm???
[12:01] <ihre> Uragan: keep holding shift during boot
[12:02] <ihre> just after POST i'd say
[12:03] <Uragan> ihre - it hepls!
[12:07] <evilC> Hi, I have found a bug stopping ubuntu/kubuntu working with multi-monitors - anyone about who can maybe help?
[12:08] <Marlenee> how can i tunnel some app via different ssh server on my ssh server ?
[12:11] <ubuntuxfce1304> hi someone knows how to Make The "OK" in "[ OK ]" green pls ? <- at startup of ubuntu xfce 13.04. it is in lsb-base-logging.sh at the begining of log_end_msg () {  thanks :)
[12:13] <ubuntuxfce1304> if [ "$1" -eq 0 ]; then
[12:13] <ubuntuxfce1304> echo "[ OK ]"
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuxfce1304: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=153703   maybe
[12:14] <ubuntuxfce1304> ok i'm going to take a look thx :)
[12:14] <universal> any libreoffice calc channel ?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> universal: #libreoffice will cover it, also here if its under ubuntu
[12:15] <KettleCoo> I've installed libpam-ldap but yet I'm missing /lib/security/pam_ldap.so
[12:16] <universal> ActionParsnip: yes its under ubuntu....simple calculation showing error 512. calculation - [{(120*3)+(145*9)}/12]
[12:16] <San1ty> Hey guys, I have a bit of trouble understanding the diff tool. So I executed diff and found out the differences between my current file and another file. I'd like to patch those differences in, how do I do that?
[12:16] <booosss> I'm looking to dual boot ubuntu alongside win8 on my desktop, should i just use the install alongside option or manually create a partition?
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | booosss
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> booosss: but i would reccomend ubuntu as single boot whole hd of course :p
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> universal: why the brackets and braces? aren't paenthesis the only thing needed
[12:18] <Marlenee> how can i tunnel app on my ssh server via another ssh server ?
[12:18] <booosss> I have to have windows installed though :( I need to use it
[12:18] <wizard_A> i am able to ssh into my server, but not scp?
[12:18] <jrib> wizard_A: pastebin
[12:19] <Marlenee> wizard_A : use sftp protocol
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> booosss: there are many alternatives for replacing win these days mate
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> wizard_A: does it affect all users SSHing to the server?
[12:21] <booosss> Yeah, I have to run visual studio though so its just easier i feel
[12:21] <wizard_A> this is the log: http://pastebin.com/ESNVjgq4
[12:22] <wizard_A> ActionParsnip: how do i confirm that?
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> booosss: i think you can run visual studio on playonlinux, but not sure
[12:22] <mika__> Hello again im here now with my ubuntu and yes, i did do sudo gedit, but still if i look the .Xauthority files there is my username not root:root. so what i can do now?
[12:22] <booosss> hmm, ill check that out thanks!
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> wizard_A: log in via SSH as another user, then also try SCP
[12:23] <alsami> hi guys
[12:23] <mika__> so my original problem is that at GUI it ask login passwd and it doesn't work
[12:23] <universal> ActionParsnip: well, two brackets are needed for sure for priority calculation 1st (120*3) & (145*9) and then sum of both results as {(120*3)+(145*9)} divided by 12, now if I use only small brackets as ((120*3)+(145*9))/12 then result is just fine, thing is that is there any bug in libre office which returns error multiple types of brackets are used in a single cell calculation
[12:23] <mika__> and at CLI i can use my passwd without any problem
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> booosss: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=892
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> universal: just installing libreoffice to test
[12:24] <alsami> I have xubuntu and i want to change my ip
[12:24] <templer> hi there I have an old dell inspirion 1300 laptop and it is running ubuntu 9.10, however I am trying to upgrade it to xubuntu 12.04 for better flash updates etc as this laptop is for my mum. I am experienced using and setting up ubuntu but after I try the live CD and all works and as soon as the installer is running for a minute I get a console/black screen with output info where it hangs/crashes... cannot get around this... anyone have advice?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> mika__: chown your entire home to your user using root recovery mode
[12:24] <PaowZ_> any udev pro over here ?
[12:24] <alsami> i used tor but it changed the firefox ip
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> templer: what GPU does it use?
[12:25] <universal> ActionParsnip: what ? if you are on ubuntu then it comes bundled
[12:25] <mika__> ActionParsnip: ok wait.
[12:25] <alsami> i want to change the desktop ip
[12:25] <cfhowlett> templer, you might consider xubuntu or lubuntu as they are optimized for older / lower tech devices such as yours
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> alsami: your IP is set by your provider, you can use a proxy server to send data through
[12:25] <templer> think its the an integragted intel one so no real dedicated one
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> universal: I removed it, its completely optional
[12:25] <Marlenee> any tools built in ubuntu to do tunneling some app via ssh server on diffrenet ssh server
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: better ask your specific issue maybe
[12:25] <universal> hmm
[12:25] <templer> it is xubuntu i am trying to install
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: you can use ssh to setup an SSH tunnel
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | templer
[12:26] <templer> cheers ubottu
[12:27] <cfhowlett> templer, better to keep your queries to one channel at a time to reduce confusion
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> universal: as it isnt a key dep of the core OS you can remove LibreOffice with zero adverse affects
[12:27] <PaowZ_> I'm trying to control the way udev populates /dev for a special device. I mean, I have a barcode reader which appears as a HID appliance in /dev. The thing is an event handler is attached to this device and every inputs are seen as keyboard inputs which, of course, I don't want..
[12:27] <mika__> ActionParsnip: do i have to now restart OS? because i did chown -R username:username homedir/
[12:27] <Marlenee> any tutorial to do tunnel on ubuntu
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> mika__: should be good to go
[12:27] <templer> yes np
[12:28] <universal> ActionParsnip: thats good :), so if you have uninstalled libreoffice, which office application do you use ?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: lots, online
[12:28] <mika__> ActionParsnip: well it didn't let me in :D
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> universal: none, its a system I use for servering, so it doesnt need it
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> universal: not every system with Ubuntu NEEDS libreoffice
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> universal: does it?
[12:28] <Marlenee> ActionParsnip : i talk about tunnel from ssh server to another ssh server
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: that's fine too
[12:30] <universal> ActionParsnip: yea right, but what if thats the only system you use and you come across office docs ?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: I use:  ssh -L 2222:lan.ip.goes.here:3128 name@my.an.ip.here
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: sets up a port 2222 on localhost which connects to 3128 on my server side, for squid proxying
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> universal: I dont do office productivity on my systems. I browse the web and stream media
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> universal: i do enough office crap at work
[12:31] <universal> office crap, lol gud
[12:32] <PaowZ_> no udev user, then..
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> universal: i just did:    =sum(((123*3)+(145*9))/12)    and got 468.75
[12:32] <universal> ActionParsnip: thats wronng
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: re-ask once in a while, other times might give you more luck?
[12:33] <mika__> ActionParsnip: well..hmm i try to restart this os now... let's see home should be all mine now but still i can't login. so see ya soon
[12:33] <PaowZ_> lotuspsychje: don't think so.. my need is not really common..
[12:33] <mika__> ActionParsnip: btw. im using now irssi :D i need to learn this well too..
[12:33] <universal> ActionParsnip: answer shuld be 138.xx
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> universal: 163.75
[12:34] <geirha> ActionParsnip, universal: shouldn't this suffice?  =(123*3 + 145*9)/12
[12:34] <universal> ActionParsnip: remove the 3rd parenthesis in the starting and the end
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> oops
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> yeah 138.75
[12:35] <jony_easyrider> buu, hello
[12:35] <tiptopflea> hi
[12:35] <jony_easyrider> buu, do you remember about my problem from yesterday? :)
[12:36] <tiptopflea> no O.o
[12:36] <universal> geirha: yes but the thing is why is {(120*3)+(145*9)}/12 showing error 512 ? ActionParsnip
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: just joined the #udev channel, maybe thats any use to you?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> universal: =sum((120*3)+145*9) gives 1665 as expected
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: oh you are already there nvm :p
[12:38] <tiptopflea> I am Brazilian
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> universal:  =sum(((120*3)+145*9)/12)   is right :)
[12:38] <universal> ActionParsnip: why are you writing sum there ?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> universal: habit
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> !br | tiptopflea
[12:38] <universal> kk
[12:38] <mika__> ActionParsnip: im back. Yep, doesn't wanna let me in. All files (hidden too) have my username : and group
[12:39] <tiptopflea> #ubuntu-pt
[12:39] <mood> hi all
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> mood: welcome mate, what can we do for you?
[12:40] <mood> I ve aproblem with ubuntu 12.04 with ATI drivers
[12:40] <universal> ActionParsnip: again, whats wrong braces ? coz its simple maths - 1st it will solve parenthesis coz its inside braces and then divide the sum by 12, but its returning error 512 ?
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> mood: can you describe your problems?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> universal: absolutely, no idea why though. Could be a bug
[12:40] <universal> wrong with braces
[12:40] <mika__> but if there is other gurus here too who could help me. i can see that ActionParsnip has hands full here :)
[12:40] <hogyz> BACKTRACK
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> universal: I'd ask in #libreoffice
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> hogyz: what of it?
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !bt | hogyz
[12:41] <PaowZ_> lotuspsychje: yep.. and they give folks a chance..
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> !backtrack | hogyz
[12:41] <PaowZ_> they must be hibernating or something.;
[12:41] <mood> my ubuntu converted today to 2D itself .. by searching I found my ATI card not present in Ubuntu
[12:41] <PaowZ_> *they don't give
[12:42] <universal> ActionParsnip: yea please, coz it created a big question mark on my 30 years of mathematics, lol
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: udev if some different then what the developing guys do i presume?
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> mood: did you check your 'additional drivers' if some other drivers are listed?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> universal: join the channel, ask there
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> mood: which ATI GPU are you using?
[12:44] <universal> ActionParsnip: lol, I thought you were gonna ask in that channel
[12:44] <mood> yes & nothing listed
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> universal: why, you can do that
[12:44] <PaowZ_> lotuspsychje: sorry, I didn't understand :D this chan is not only for developers if it's your question..
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: no just tought maybe the dev chat could help you, if it does the same as udev...but here stops my knowledge :p
[12:45] <mood> AMD M82XT 256MB
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> always forget the developing chat name..
[12:45] <universal> ActionParsnip: looks like everyone is busy in that channel or no one is interested there in troubleshooting
[12:46] <mood> lenovo thinkpad T400
[12:46] <jony_easyrider> buu, I solved the issue! :)
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> !yay | jony_easyrider
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> PaowZ_: #ubuntu-devel thats what i meant
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> universal: could report a bug as well
[12:49] <PaowZ_> lotuspsychje: okay.. I glance at it ;)
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> mood: did you upgrade or clean install 12.04?
[12:51] <damel> Hey all, anyone ever use 'msgunfmt' ?  it does not seem to do anything for me
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !info msgunfmt
[12:51] <mika__> do i have to purge lightdm and ubuntu-desktop away to fix this :D lol.
[12:51] <damel> that is weird..because the command works
[12:52] <Lynx_> Hi all! When installing Ubuntu, can I keep my Dell utility partition with hardware diagnostics tools as a boot option?
[12:52] <damel> or at least I have no error ;)
[12:52] <mood> clean install
[12:52] <subby1> how to create live usb of ububtu in win 7
[12:53] <Dai_1987> subby1: google a program called unetbootin
[12:53] <damel> I even have the man files installed for msgunfmt
[12:53] <damel> very weird
[12:53] <damel> !info poedit
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> mood: can you pastebin lshw -C video
[12:54] <damel> I think it was maybe installed by poedit...or its a function of gettext
[12:56] <fishcooker> thanks Ben64 i will.. sorry my connection is not good here
[13:01] <Cuprum>  subby1_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate
[13:02] <hogyz> why conky not work on my ubuntu 12.10
[13:02] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje, what's up?
[13:02] <hogyz> any body help me?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: all good mate tnx, doing a little support :p
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> hogyz: can you start it from terminal, see what errors it gives you?
[13:03] <hogyz> what command to run conky?
[13:04] <hogyz> ./conky ??
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> hogyz: conky in terminal
[13:05] <subby1_> can i install ubuntu in any other partition other than c: drive where i hv already installed win 7
[13:06] <ubuntuxfce1304> hi :) hi someone knows how to Make The "OK" in "[ OK ]" green pls ? <- at startup of ubuntu xfce 13.04.
[13:06] <Dai_1987> subby1_: how are you installing it?
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuxfce1304: are you in setup?
[13:06] <ubuntuxfce1304> no no
[13:07] <ubuntuxfce1304> when all is done ( OS installed )
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> subby1_: when installing ubuntu it will ask you to install next to win7
[13:07] <universal> ActionParsnip: someone in libreoffice suggested a very good reason - brackets, braces and parenthesis or anything else is good on paper but they are not mathematical operators in computer language except simple parenthesis, rest all used for other things! sounds good and genuine reason to me
[13:07] <ubuntuxfce1304> at the startup like on Suse we see at the begining the Green "OK" and on Ubuntu 13.04 it is in WHite :(
[13:08] <bennypr0fane> this is just totally ridiculous. Nautilus isn't letting me delete stuff from my SDcard, there just isn't any option in any of the menus
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuxfce1304: you mean the lilo list loading with OK next to it?
[13:08] <universal> opensuse is faster or ubuntu ?
[13:08] <bennypr0fane> context menu, main menu, Del key doesn't work either
[13:08] <ubuntuxfce1304> universal, don't know
[13:09] <subby1_> i hv already installed win 7 on my c : drive which has a total of 68.1 gb but i want to install ubuntu as a dual boot and want to install it on other partiton apart frm c: drive
[13:09] <ubuntuxfce1304> lotuspsychje, yes :)
[13:09] <bennypr0fane> I feel a terrible rant coming up - must - suppress
[13:09] <ubuntuxfce1304> Starting xxxxxx [ OK ] <-- but i would like it in GREEN :)
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuxfce1304: not sure if thats possible
[13:09] <ubuntuxfce1304> :'(
[13:10] <ubuntuxfce1304> ouiinnnn :'(
[13:10] <subby1_> Dai_1987: i hv already installed win 7 on my c : drive which has a total of 68.1 gb but i want to install ubuntu as a dual boot and want to install it on other partiton apart frm c: drive
[13:10] <Dai_1987> subby1_: do you have another partition?
[13:10] <ubuntuxfce1304> after consulting somes forums, it works for someone and doesn't work for others
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> bennypr0fane: try a reboot and stick sd card in after login
[13:11] <sameh> hello iam sameh forme egypt cairo i install ubuntu 11 but i have problem in my driver any one can help me plz
[13:11] <subby1_> Dai_1987: yaa i hv 4 more partitions and two of them are 698gb and are completely empty
[13:11] <bennypr0fane> "move to trash can" is greyed out in context menu
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> sameh: ubuntu 11.04?
[13:11] <ubuntuxfce1304> lsb-base-logging.sh & init-functions <- seems to be inside but where, maybe someone had heard something about that.
[13:11] <Dai_1987> subby1_: well then when it asks you where to install, select one of the empty partitions
[13:11] <bennypr0fane> ok, found it
[13:11] <sameh> yes
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> !eol | sameh
[13:12] <bennypr0fane> stupid microsd adapter locked itself when sliding it in
[13:12] <Dai_1987> subby1_: if you're a gamer though you'll need way more than 60GB for Windows
[13:12] <subby1_> Dai_1987: yaa but will i get a dual boot
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> sameh: download an ubuntu version from topic please
[13:12] <repudiate> Can we talk about anything besides Ubuntu?
[13:12] <bennypr0fane> sorry you had to witness this everyone
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> !ot | repudiate
[13:12] <Dai_1987> subby1_: yes, that get set up too, just pay attention tot he installer, it isn't needlessly complicated
[13:13] <bennypr0fane> thanks lotuspsychje
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> bennypr0fane: no sweat!
[13:13] <repudiate> lotuspsychje: It was a joke.
[13:13] <subby1_> Dai_1987: ok thanks......now can u tell me how to create a live usb for the same purpose
[13:13] <Cuprum> subby1_: But listen, 698GB just for Ubuntu may not be such a good idea. You can shrink some space from there and install Ubuntu in it.
[13:13] <sameh> ok i will sir but i befor install ubuntu 13 and have problem in intel card vig
[13:14] <Dai_1987> subby1_: download the iso, download unetbootin, use unetbootin to make a bootable USB from the ISO
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> sameh: try 13.04 it will work for sure
[13:14] <sameh> ok i have problem in intel driver
[13:14] <Dai_1987> subby1_: make sure your pc will boot from usb
[13:14] <sameh> no no  no  no i try it
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> sameh: intel wifi driver?
[13:14] <subby1_> Cuprum: ok i ll keep dat in mind.......
[13:15] <sameh> mack problem in intel driver
[13:15] <subby1_> Dai_1987: ok thanks ......
[13:15] <sameh> no vag
[13:16] <sameh> driver intel vag
[13:16] <Cuprum> Dai_1987: I think it would be better  subby1_  shrinks 698GB partition to a less amount and then install Ubuntu in the smaller partition.... Else 698GB just for Ubuntu?? What do you think?
[13:17] <Dai_1987> Cuprum: totally agree, I normally set linux partitions at 100GB and that's probably overkill
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> sameh: lol you mean vga driver?
[13:17] <sameh> i have min laptop is samsung s100np
[13:17] <sameh> yes
[13:17] <sameh> vga driver
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> sameh: if 13.04 is too high for your intel card, try xubuntu or lubuntu
[13:18] <sameh> so now i install 11 ubuntu
[13:18] <sameh> and i have problem in vga driver
[13:18] <sameh> i hat win 7 and win 8
[13:18] <subby1_> Dai_1987: On second thought .... wat if i want to install ubuntu on my c: drive where i hv already installed win 7 and the total space is 68.1 gb and i hv used 25.9gb
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> sameh: ubuntu 11.04 has been removed, you need to install another version
[13:18] <Dai_1987> subby1_: ubuntu needs to be on its own partition
[13:19] <sameh> opssssss  do u have skybe sir
[13:19] <subby1_> Dai_1987: ya but cant i shrink the partition of win 7 and then install it???
[13:19] <philinux> subby1_: you need to defrag twice and use windows to shrink it's partition to create some space
[13:20] <Dai_1987> windows wont shrink the active partition
[13:20] <subby1_> Dai_1987: ohh kk.....
[13:20] <philinux> It did on this laptop - win 7
[13:20] <philinux> If you dont use win 7 to shrink it you asking for trouble
[13:21] <subby1_> philinux: k...
[13:21] <Dai_1987> philinux: ah, shrink works, grow doesn't
[13:22] <philinux> Dai_1987: indeed
[13:22] <Dai_1987> subby1_: just use some of the free space, not all of it
[13:22] <philinux> never tried grow
[13:22] <Dai_1987> philinux: anything under 250GB is way too small for Windows IMO though, apps are huge these days
[13:22] <subby1_> Dai_1987: u mean from c : drive??
[13:22] <Dai_1987> philinux: you can use gparted or similar to grow C:
[13:23] <Dai_1987> i've done that before, never needed to shrink it though
[13:23] <Dai_1987> subby1_: you can change the size of C: and use the resulting free space but you cant install ubuntu on C: without wiping out windows
[13:24] <philinux> Dai_1987: my win 7 partition is 70 gig. more than enough for me. Only use it for skygo and office
[13:24] <subby1_> Dai_1987: can u tell me how to change the size of c:
[13:24] <Dai_1987> my steam games take up about five times that
[13:24] <Dai_1987> subby1_: you can use windows disk management tool
[13:25] <Dai_1987> subby1_: im not in front of a windows machine so i can't help any more than that
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> subby1_: try the ##windows channel for win support
[13:26] <subby1_> Dai_1987: k.... thanks...
[13:26] <Cuprum> Dai_1987: I also used Win Disk Management but I don't think I had to defrag it before I shrunk it. I may be wrong though....
[13:27] <Cuprum> I did that ages ago..
[13:27] <philinux> subby1_: this is my 250 gig drive setup. http://imagebin.org/273186
[13:27] <Dai_1987> i've never shrunk a partition but i can see why defagging might be required
[13:27] <philinux> Dai_1987: if you dont it will only shrink so far
[13:27] <Dai_1987> makes sense
[13:28] <philinux> there's a minimum it will do cos some files cant bbe moved from "end of partition"
[13:30] <Cuprum> philinux: Yeah I remember the minimum thingy..... better for subby1_ would be to go for the 698GB partition that he has, shrink it and leave the Win partition as it is. Win apps and softwares take huge spaces anyway...
[13:30] <Cuprum> Dai_1987: ^
[13:30] <smodav> nice
[13:31] <Dai_1987> yeah, he seemed reluctant to use that space
[13:31] <philinux> Cuprum: 70 gig enough for me like i said office and browser plus no crapware
[13:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> Is there a cmdline tool that emits a beep or any notification sound through the soundcard?
[13:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> I could use aplay, but maybe there's something better.
[13:33] <xyzwhatever> hi
[13:33] <xyzwhatever> where can I get help for the tcsh shell?
[13:33] <smodav> which is the best download manager?
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> !info tcsh
[13:34] <Cuprum> smodav: I use wget and curl
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> xyzwhatever: you might wanna ask your specific issue on it to channel?
[13:35] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, canberra-gtk-play
[13:35] <smodav> Cuprum: I had issues with wget but hopping it will work since I changed os to pinguy
[13:35] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, give: man canberra-gtk-play  for the manual
[13:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> kostkon: mm, is that a graphical tool? I want to trigger stuff from scripts.
[13:35] <halfak> Hey guys.  Network Manager is constantly asking me for my wireless password.  Sadly top google results didn't help.  (e.g. http://askubuntu.com/questions/64903/network-manager-asks-for-wireless-password-continually)  Ideas?
[13:36] <Pici> Eduard_Munteanu: either the beep package or print a \a via echo
[13:36] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, nope, cmd tool. uses the notification sound system of gnome
[13:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> Pici: beep uses the speaker, I'd like to use the soundcard. And \a requires a console.
[13:36] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, either give it the name of the event you want or the path of your own audio file.
[13:38] <mika__> ActionParsnip: btw i problem solved. i rm .Xauthority and .ICEauth*. now i can use my gui again :)
[13:38] <Eduard_Munteanu> Ouch, one too many deps. This is a server-like install, I guess I should just grab a file from that package.
[13:38] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, then aplay or if the server comes with pulseaudio, which i doubt, then paplay
[13:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> aplay/ALSA is alright.
[13:40] <kostkon> Eduard_Munteanu, aplay is fine
[13:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm, 'sox' looks good.
[13:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> It can generate waveforms.
[13:42] <Daniel_1> hi, I have this strange ipv6 problem on an ubuntu server I'm running. It has a default route but can't send any packages. (ping tells me 'sendmsg: Network is down'). the only way I found to fix this is to manually delete and replace the default route.
[13:44] <Daniel_1> btw. this only happens since I use a network bridge (br0) instead of the real interface (eth0)
[13:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: sounds like someone is advertising wrong IPv6 routes
[13:45] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: is your box accepting RAs?
[13:45] <Daniel_1> Eduard_Munteanu:  the routes are configured using autoconf and are correct. let me show you the route: default via fe80::21d:e5ff:fe47:2845 dev br0  proto kernel  metric 1024  expires 1657sec mtu 1500 advmss 1440 hoplimit 64
[13:45] <Daniel_1> if I delete that route and manually re-add it using the exact values given in that line, it works
[13:47] <xyzwhatever> ok i hope someone can help me or redirect me to a channel
[13:47] <Daniel_1> also I'm in a corporate network and can't use static addresses or routes :/
[13:47] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: what about the interfaces in the bridge?
[13:47] <xyzwhatever> in tcsh,    everything between ' '   is not interpreted by the shell.  I have a program that expects an input like this:       filename'[1..100]'
[13:48] <xyzwhatever> now i want to replace a number with a variable:    e.g.     filename'[$a..100]'
[13:48] <Daniel_1> the bridge contains the ethernet interface (i.e. eth0) and vnet{0,1,2}
[13:48] <xyzwhatever> but since the shell doesnt replace the value of the variable with a number because its in  ' '   the program gives me an error
[13:48] <Daniel_1> I connected KVM virtual machines to the bridge to expose them to the network.
[13:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: I think you may get packets leaving on the bridge and returning on one of the interfaces... what other routes do you have?
[13:49] <Daniel_1> 1 sec. I'll create a pastebin of ip -6 r
[13:49] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: did you disable RA accepting for the bridged interfaces? I'm not sure that happens by default.
[13:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> Secondly, if it's a server consider DHCPv6 PD.
[13:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> But that's just as a sidenote.
[13:50] <woon> hello
[13:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> woon: hi
[13:51] <Uragan> hi there!
[13:51] <arctus> hi
[13:51] <Daniel_1> Eduard_Munteanu:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6213835/ is the output of ip -6 r
[13:52] <Daniel_1> don't I need to accept RAs to get routes via autoconf?
[13:53] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: yes, but for the bridge interface, not its components
[13:53] <Daniel_1> oh, I see what you mean. I'll check that.
[13:54] <xyzwhatever> did anyone read my question? :'(
[13:55] <tengopreguntas> hi, is there a way to determine where the repositories in a system are located, lets say , i want to find out the path for "/etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[13:56] <tengopreguntas> i remember it reding it in a conf file.
[13:57] <Dwarf> Is there a way to do a headless install of ubuntu? (Not ubuntu server)
[13:58] <impradeepy> is there ney way to install vlc 2.1.0 on 13.04?
[13:58] <xyzwhatever> :'(
[13:58] <Dwarf> impradeepy: apt-cache policy vlc
[13:59] <xyzwhatever> :'(
[13:59] <impradeepy> lemme check
[13:59] <geirha> tengopreguntas: I believe that's hard-coded
[14:00] <loa> hello, i have strange problem. when gdm starts i try to change keyboard layout and it is looks like, that when it show ru layout it actually uses for input en
[14:01] <impradeepy> did not work but thanku it provides better info
[14:01] <loa> and when it shows EN it actually uses for input RU layout
[14:01] <IdleOne> impradeepy: you can use this PPA https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily but know that support is only available from the PPA maintainer
[14:01] <impradeepy> ok
[14:01] <Dwarf> That's what it does, impradeepy, it shows which versions are available in your repositories
[14:01] <xyzwhatever> any channel about tcsh ??? :'(
[14:01] <Daniel_1> ok, I get "net.ipv6.conf.eth0.accept_ra = 1" from "sysctl net.ipv6.conf.eth0.accept_ra"
[14:01] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: btw, IP forwarding automatically disables RAs. So it might be the case you're disabling it exactly on the br0 and it's getting some other route as default.
[14:02] <impradeepy> yes :)well m  trying to install it through extracting .tar.xz but after ./configure make step is in infinite loops
[14:03] <IdleOne> impradeepy: use the PPA and follow the instructions on the link I gave you. No need to compile.
[14:03] <impradeepy> ok
[14:04] <Christian87> Hello
[14:04] <Christian87> I try to install ubuntu server 12.04 on a new server with 4 HDD in Raid 5 configuration. This is my partition table in the setup: http://i.imgur.com/u3KXjiV.png
[14:05] <Daniel_1> forwarding should be disabled. I get "net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 0"
[14:05] <Christian87> installation runs smoothly but the system dont boot
[14:05] <Daniel_1> same for the individual and the bridge interfaces
[14:05] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: alright, try disabling RAs for the bridge component interfaces.
[14:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: or just disable it globally and enable it on br0 specifically
[14:07] <kaddi> has anybody here installed ubuntu on a samsung ativ book 9? (940x3g). Is it safe to do so or can it brick the machine? How well does linux run on it?
[14:07] <mydog2> ohh.. ubuntu gurus!! anyone here with serious/medium ssh chops for port forwarding!
[14:07] <mydog2> i'm trying to do a test with a gearman process.. it talks to localhost:port X
[14:08] <mydog2> and i want to have the client on a separate machine listen to multiple servers running on different machines.
[14:08] <mydog2> so i need to port forward between the clients/master
[14:09] <afsal_> when I'm try to format my pendrive it shows Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system
[14:09] <afsal_> how to solve this ^^
[14:10] <impradeepy> ppa verified n then apt-get update but did not install the latest version
[14:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> mydog2: I'd suggest OpenVPN if it's anything serious / permanent.
[14:11] <phanohanover_> #zentyal
[14:11] <afsal_> when I'm try to format my pendrive it shows Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system
[14:11] <afsal_> how to solve this ^^
[14:11] <impradeepy> where to copy output??
[14:11] <Eduard_Munteanu> afsal_: we've seen that the first time, wait a bit
[14:11] <impradeepy> plz give me a link
[14:12] <impradeepy> i ve to copy and paste the output of terminal
[14:12] <IdleOne> impradeepy: did you run sudo apt-get upgrade?
[14:12] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu, - i'm specifically looking for an ssh solution...
[14:13] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu, - i'm envisioning an ultimate system with 100s of clients.. i can't be having openvpn remotely managed on all the systems..
[14:13] <impradeepy> yes
[14:13] <IdleOne> !paste
[14:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> mydog2: why do your clients have to use ssh?
[14:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> mydog2: I'm not sure what your servers are, maybe you can explain a bit
[14:14] <Dwarf> Is there a way to do a headless install of ubuntu? (Not ubuntu server)
[14:14] <impradeepy> i did
[14:14] <impradeepy> plz check it
[14:15] <impradeepy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6213914/
[14:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> Dwarf: headless as in a computer without a video card, or just automatic?
[14:15] <Daniel_1> ok, I disabled accept_ra for the individual interfaces. I guess now I need to wait for the server to get a new route on the bridge interface?
[14:15] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu,  - they don't..  but i'm going to need bidirectional communication. and i really don't want to have openvpn on each box, and then have to deal with configuring each, and then remotely managing/monitoring the open vpn app
[14:15] <Dwarf> Headless as in I only want to install the base system and I'll install the graphical part myself
[14:16] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu,  - portforwarding would be a simple solution
[14:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: remove the existing one to be safe
[14:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> Dwarf: you can use debootstrap.
[14:16] <Daniel_1> the old route is gone. waiting for the server to get a new one...
[14:16] <Pici> Dwarf: The minimal installer might be of interest to you
[14:16] <Pici> !minimal | Dwarf
[14:17] <foofoobar_> Hi. Does someone have a Dell XPS13? If yes, can you check which the default cpu temp is under normal load?
[14:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: radvdump can watch for RAs, if you want to look at them.
[14:17] <Dwarf> I'll go with the minimal one, it sounds like the debian netinstall
[14:17] <impradeepy> @idleone did u see it??
[14:18] <Eduard_Munteanu> Dwarf: btw, AFAIK Ubuntu Server isn't much different, except for the kernel, but you can install the stock one.
[14:18] <Dwarf> I'm not afraid to install X myself and whatnot, but the kernel is still a grey area for me
[14:19] <Eduard_Munteanu> Ok. Mind it's just a package, I'm not suggesting compiling your own.
[14:20] <IdleOne> impradeepy: The official VLC PPA currently only contains this latest release for Ubuntu 13.10. The previous release, 2.0.8 is provided for Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04.
[14:20] <impradeepy> i know but no other way?
[14:20] <kennyhunter> hi
[14:20] <IdleOne> impradeepy: Looks like you will need to wait a little longer for 2.1.0 to be added to the PPA
[14:21] <impradeepy> ok thanku
[14:21] <impradeepy> apt-get cache is realy good to know thanks :)
[14:21] <IdleOne> apt-cache
[14:22] <foofoobar_> Is it normal for a notebook to spin up the heater when I plug in the charger?
[14:22] <impradeepy> yes yes
[14:22] <ThRiX_> I just installed all the necessary components to get a PXE server, but after selecting the system to start from the client, is the word "loading".  Using Ubuntu 10.04.4 lts
[14:22] <foofoobar_> *spin up the fan
[14:22] <ThRiX_> I read in a guide:"This does not work for a PXE server running 10.04.1 LTS, nor does it work for clients trying to run 10.04.1 LTS. The client receives an offer from DHCP, gets the kernel, and fails while trying to load.  NOTE: It WILL work if you add required module names in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules (module names for your network adapters, like forcedeth or tulip)"
[14:23] <ThRiX_> and I added in "/ etc / initramfs-tools / modules" module "bnx2". But the result is not changed ...
[14:23] <ThRiX_> you have any advice?
[14:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> foofoobar_: they usually switch to performance profiles when on AC (e.g. maximum CPU frequency etc)
[14:23] <Daniel_1> Eduard_Munteanu:  thx a lot. that seems to solve the issue.
[14:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: cool
[14:24] <foofoobar_> Eduard_Munteanu, how can I prevent this? I dont want to hear the fan
[14:24] <foofoobar_> I'm under ubuntu 12.04
[14:24] <foofoobar_> I already installed tlp
[14:24] <Eduard_Munteanu> Daniel_1: have a look at DHCPv6 though, especially Prefix Delegation. If there's such a server, they can give you your own prefix, and if it's larger than /64 you can split it further to your VMs.
[14:25] <Eduard_Munteanu> foofoobar_: mm, I'm unsure.
[14:25] <Eduard_Munteanu> Maybe someone else knows.
[14:26] <jhutchins> ThRiX_: You might consider upgrading the server, but I think you also need to run mkinitramfs
[14:26] <techGUY> Hello all. I have an LSI sym8751spe SCSI card, trying to get is working in Ubuntu 10.04. It show up in 'lspci' command, but drives do not show up. Why?
[14:26] <Eduard_Munteanu> mydog2: why port forwarding? Are your servers behind a firewall?
[14:27] <foofoobar> Eduard_Munteanu, I got a complete freeze, sorry.. Another thing I have to look into, but first the power thing
[14:27] <foofoobar> Is there a way to see which power profile is in use? Or to stop this?
[14:27] <foofoobar> I dont want to hear the fan when plugging in the AC
[14:28] <jhutchins> foofoobar: What's probably happening is that your power manager is set to increase the CPU speed when it's on line power instead of battery.  Change that setting in the power manager and it should behave normally.
[14:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> foofoobar: well the problem is it's not just one thing... it's an interaction between upower, ACPI, cpufreq, graphics drivers, and I'm unsure how distros handle this these days.
[14:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> foofoobar: I'd start searching the Ubuntu wiki for power management-related topics.
[14:29] <foofoobar> okay
[14:29] <loa> can't change plymouth theme, what i can check?
[14:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or google "AC power performance ubuntu", or something along those lines.
[14:29] <foofoobar> jhutchins, you are talking of a "power manager"? Is this a gui ?
[14:29] <repudiate> Will Ubuntu run significantly slower in VBox as a guest OS?
[14:29] <loa> want to set solar theme
[14:29] <Daniel_1> although the route looks exactly like the one I had before, the new one works. oh well, at least my problem is fixed now.
[14:29] <loa> i used this command sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[14:30] <loa> and after it i use sudo update-initramfs -u
[14:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: if you're going to use GNOME3, probably.
[14:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> GNOME Shell, more specifically.
[14:30] <subby1> Dan
[14:30] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu,  - they are.. and they'll be spread out across the 'net..
[14:31] <repudiate> Eduard_Munteanu: What does GNOME offer exactly?
[14:31] <Eduard_Munteanu> mydog2: normally you should just give them public IPs. Otherwise, yeah, you can do port forwarding, sure. I'm not sure what you're asking though?
[14:31] <ThRiX_> Thanks jhutchins
[14:32] <SuperLag> I have a desktop that I've made headless for the time being, as I'm using another machine as my primary. How do I make sure that processes that would normally have started when logging into the UI still start, even though I'm not logging in that way?
[14:32] <mydog2> Eduard_Munteanu,  - thanks.. i'll figure it out
[14:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: the desktop environment.
[14:33] <repudiate> Eduard_Munteanu: What does it offer that Unity doesn't?
[14:33] <repudiate> Eduard_Munteanu: What does it offer that KDE doesn't?
[14:33] <subby1> I want to create a dual boot with ubuntu on my pc and I already have win 7 .....my disc space in c: is 68.1 gb and I hv used 29 gb
[14:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> SuperLag: configure your login manager to autologin, and perhaps configure xorg to use the 'dummy' driver if you don't have a video card at all.
[14:34] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: oops, I forgot about Unity. I'm just saying everything involving 3D effects will likely be slow (unless you do VGA passthrough).
[14:35] <gaussblurinc> hello! how about google drive on linux?
[14:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> gaussblurinc: hi... what about it?
[14:35] <repudiate> Eduard_Munteanu: What's a VGA passthrough exactly?
[14:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> You should just ask directly.
[14:35] <bjoswald> There is no native client
[14:36] <bjoswald> If that's what you're asking
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> mydog2: are you on about having all clients ssh to a single server which forwards the connection to their server?
[14:37] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: if your hardware supports Intel VT-d / AMD IOMMU, you can give your guest OS full control over the video card, so it won't be using a slow, emulated one.
[14:37] <gaussblurinc> bjoswald: yes, native client, uh :\
[14:38] <Eduard_Munteanu> gaussblurinc: I think there might be a FUSE driver for it
[14:38] <loa> can you help me with plymouth? tried few manuals but can't changed theme
[14:38] <repudiate> Eduard_Munteanu: How do I do that?
[14:38] <loa> it is always shows Xubuntu 13.10
[14:38] <loa> but i have Ubuntu 13.10 =/
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | loa
[14:39] <loa> it is ok.
[14:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: google for {VGA,PCI} passthrough and {KVM,Virtualbox}.
[14:39] <loa> but i think solution is plymouth, not ubuntu version.
[14:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> repudiate: or Xen, IIRC that supports it too
[14:40] <gdos> for some reason my system wide language has been changed from en_US to en_UK and now i get funny little characters whenever i enter (or other) xfce-terminal - tried setxkbmap en and get error loading new keyboard description; what's happening is that every other char is a little box with ones and zeros. (...especially when displaying colors.)
[14:41] <gordonjcp> gdos: that's standard
[14:41] <gdos> the little box with ones and zeros?
[14:41] <gordonjcp> gdos: you've hung about wwih no functional government, so we're taking the US back under UK government control
[14:41] <impradeepy> please tell me how to install jupiter on 13.04?
[14:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hehe.
[14:42] <gdos> you can have my government i just want my fonts.
[14:42] <foofoobar> Eduard_Munteanu, the strange thing is .. when I plug in the charger, the cpu temp does not increase, but a few seconds later the fan starts to spin
[14:42] <foofoobar> and the cpu temp still as before
[14:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> foofoobar: possibly, if it's still mostly idle.
[14:45] <lnxslck> new ubuntu 13.10 brings support for apple wireless keyboard battery indicator, does anyone know the name of tha package that does this?
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> foofoobar: have you looked for options in the bios to control the fan?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> lnxslck: maybe the guys in #ubuntu+1 might know
[14:47] <Eduard_Munteanu> hitsujiTMO: more likely it's a cpufreq thing
[14:47] <Eduard_Munteanu> Actually a power management thing as a whole.
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> Eduard_Munteanu: yes you are right, but some older laptops do have fan controls in the bios
[14:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> The BIOS usually just provides ACPI states and frequency/voltage tables.
[14:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm.
[14:50] <foofoobar> hitsujiTMO, yes, there are no options :/
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> impradeepy: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/jupiter-light-weight-power-and-hardware-control-applet.html
[14:51] <ArnoMoonen> Hi, I'm looking for an easy tool that I can run in a live environment to create a live USB thumb drive. Any suggestions?
[14:51] <impradeepy> not working
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: ubuntu livedvd has usb startup disk creator
[14:52] <impradeepy> but thanku
[14:52] <ArnoMoonen> Something like this: https://launchpad.net/liveusb - but I can't install this in my install using the PPA repo (no recent version available)
[14:52] <impradeepy> i found other working ppa
[14:52] <franz__> hi i need help, i create live usb, the machine forze I forced shutdown by pressing Power button, now usb is only read
[14:52] <franz__> how do I fix this_
[14:53] <foofoobar> Eduard_Munteanu, I cant find any good links on this
[14:53] <ArnoMoonen> lotuspsychje thanks.. does that work if the source disc is the disc that the live environment is running from?
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: you have to download a new iso, with the livedvd and make startup disk to your usb stick
[14:54] <franz__> hi i need help, i create live usb, the machine froze I forced shutdown by pressing Power button, now usb is only read
[14:55] <ArnoMoonen> lotuspsychje That doesn't work in my use case. We've created a live DVD that students can use during a workshop, but we want to make it easy to clone them to a USB drive so that they can work with the software at home
[14:55] <b0x> erm
[14:55] <ArnoMoonen> lotuspsychje they usually don't have an internet connection and including an iso of the live environment on the live environment isn't really workable
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: so your students will be getting the livedvd to their homes?
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> ArnoMoonen: from what I remember http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ allows you to create an image from live iso to USB that also gives you the option for persistent storage
[14:58] <ArnoMoonen> lotuspsychje not really. they will use a custom live image (DVD or USB) during the workshop and we'll be able to 'clone' this DVD/USB to their own USB thumb drive
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: cant you download the iso on the workshop computer so they can make one?
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: or try what hitsujiTMO suggested you
[15:00] <ArnoMoonen> Unfortunately we can not. Most of the time we don't even have access to the internet on those computers (the workshop is given across multiple institutes)
[15:01] <sasuke> Hi all, Can anyone tell me how to install gnome 3.10 in ubuntu 12.04. Is it possible to install gnome 3.10
[15:01] <ArnoMoonen> hitsujiTMO Afaik LiLi can't run on Ubuntu?
[15:01] <sidesh> can i know what is official name of ubuntu 12.04
[15:01] <sasuke> sidesh, its precise
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> !12.04 | sidesh
[15:02] <gdos> 13.10 comes out at the end of the month?
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> ArnoMoonen: hmm, not sure... but i'm sure theres an linux alternative
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | gdos
[15:02] <lnxslck> gdos, on the 17
[15:02] <gdos> got it.
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> ArnoMoonen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[15:02] <ArnoMoonen> hitsujiTMO Well, there was https://launchpad.net/liveusb but they don't have any recent versions
[15:03] <sasuke> is it possible to install gnome 3.10 in ubuntu 12.04
[15:03] <techGUY> Hello all. I have an LSI sym8751spe SCSI card, trying to get is working in Ubuntu 10.04. The card shows up in 'lspci' command, but drives do not show up anywhere I looked. Why?
[15:03] <gdos> so how do i remove the little boxes of ones and zeros when displaying colors in xfce-terminal?
[15:04] <ArnoMoonen> I'll just see if I can somehow rebuild liveusb, even though I'm not familiar with that at all
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> gdos: sounds like the font used does not have the chars needed... try changing the font
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: how about making 1 liveUSB stick with ubuntu, and drag n drop the iso image togheter on it
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> techGUY: tried 12.04?
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: not sure if it wont affect the install process
[15:06] <gdos> hitsujiTMO: recommend a good font viewer?
[15:07] <ArnoMoonen> lotuspsychje: that's a possible workaround. But that would almost double the size needed and it's cumbersome (we're planning updates)
[15:07] <semitones> What's that command that ActionParsnip knows that fixes mouse problems upon resume by killing the mouse and starting it again?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> semitones: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 2; sudo modprobe psmouse
[15:07] <techGUY> @ActionParsnip: No I have not. Will give it a try. Thanks
[15:08] <semitones> ActionParsnip, thanks, it doesn't always happen, but when it does, now I'll be prepared.
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> gdos: not sure what you mean ...
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> semitones: could script it
[15:08] <semitones> thanks what I think I'll do. mousefix.sh
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> semitones: and even have the OS run it autmatically when you resume :)
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> ArnoMoonen: wanna tell me more about your project in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[15:10] <gdos> hitsujiTMO: if courier new or courier 10 pitch is missing chars to display colors (thats only when this happens) is there a viewer i can use to view all the fonts on my system?
[15:11] <semitones> ActionParsnip, right now, it only messes up about 1 in 20 times I resume from sleep. I'm not sure what's special about that 1/20th time.
[15:15] <ircdeng> nick
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> gdos: ahh, soory, i missed the fact that it happened on colors specifically. can you provide a screen shot?
[15:17] <gdos> hisujiTMO: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10092013-091312am.php
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> ok, that indeed does look like an invalid character
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> it may be caused by, as I originally suggested; missing characters in the font, but, more likely given that it's happening in the colours it could be an invalid terminal promt config
[15:26] <gdos> hitsujiTMO: in .bashrc ?
[15:26] <geirha> gdos: what does echo "$TERM" say?
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> gdos: look at $PS1
[15:27] <geirha> I doubt aptsh cares about bash's prompt.
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> geirha: sorry your right didnt realise that aptsh was a shell
[15:29] <pandaroot> why is that as mentioned in the debmirror wiki when i am doing sudo chmod -R 571 /home/UbuntuMirror i can't access the mirror but when i change the permissions to 777 it works
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> gdos: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[15:29] <apatters> Is there any reason to use the virtual terminals on ctrl+alt+f1-6, aside from getting X back up if it's not running?
[15:29] <ircdeng> what is the valid email for register
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> gdos: if its not that and not the font, then they're may be a mismatch between char encodings somewhere
[15:29] <ircdeng> could someone help me ?
[15:30] <geirha> pandaroot: Because you're not the owner of that dir, nor are you a member of the group that owns the dir. on a side note, never set 777 on a file or directory
[15:31] <Dai_1987> ircdeng: valid email for registering what?
[15:31] <s1536273> !rules
[15:31] <ubuntuxfce1304> hi :) if anyone have ideas to put the [ OK ] at the beginning of startup in GREEN Colour like in Suse.
[15:31] <geirha> apatters: Very useful when you don't have X installed
[15:32] <ircdeng> Dai_1987: register the nickname
[15:32] <Dai_1987> ircdeng: it's supposed to be your email address, and then NickServ emails you instructions
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuxfce1304: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-50054.html
[15:32] <hitsujiTMO> ircdeng: questions about registering a nick on freenode would be better handled in #freenode
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuxfce1304: seems to be in  /lib/lsb/init-functions
[15:33] <Dai_1987> ircdeng: I learned from http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[15:33] <pandaroot> geirha, so should i add myself to that group   ? what permission should i set ?
[15:34] <ircdeng> Dai_1987 i've tried two email address ,but the system tell me this :*******is not a valid email address.
[15:34] <Dai_1987> ircdeng: and you're typing /msg NickServ REGISTER <password> <youremail@example.com> ?
[15:34] <apatters> geirha: Of course :) just wondering if there are any reasons that anyone prefers to use a vt instead of X even when they do have X
[15:34] <geirha> pandaroot: Depends on what type of access you want for the directory, but if you add your user to the group, then 770  will give the owner and the members of the group that owns it, full access, while other users will have no access
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuxfce1304: make a backup copy of the file before editting
[15:35] <pandaroot> geirha, i found out one mistake, instead of putting the ubuntu mirror under /home/ubuntu i have kept it inside /home/user/ubuntu.
[15:36] <geirha> pandaroot: odd place for it
[15:36] <pandaroot> geirha, moving back the contents to /home/ubuntu
[15:38] <geirha> pandaroot: Also, don't do chmod -R 770; you don't want to change the execute bits for regular files
[15:39] <geirha> though I recon it's too late for that
[15:39] <ubuntuxfce1304> ActionParsnip, already done
[15:40] <ircdeng> Dai_1987 yeah ,i am typing  like that.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuxfce1304: not something I've done, is it really worth the effort?
[15:41] <Dai_1987> ircdeng: then i have no idea why it wont work for you
[15:41] <impradeepy> please help me to configure powertop
[15:41] <buhman> please help me to configure impradeepy
[15:41] <pandaroot> geirha, execute bits ? what does that mean ?
[15:42] <impradeepy> i mean tunables
[15:43] <ubuntuxfce1304> lsb-base-logging.sh must be modify and i have already made a copy of it, then modify it but doesn't work, thanks anyway. if someone have heard something about the " [ OK ] " to put it in Green colour highlight me thx :)
[15:43] <ircdeng> Dai_1987 thank u
[15:43] <buhman> pandaroot: they're actually flags in st_mode; man 2 stat
[15:43] <impradeepy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214274/
[15:43] <geirha> pandaroot: determines if the file is executable or not. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions to learn how permissions work on unix and unix-like systems (like Ubuntu).
[15:44] <pandaroot> ok
[15:45] <buhman> pandaroot: S_IX{USR,GRP,OTH} are the names of said flags/'bits'
[15:45] <impradeepy> @buhman please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214274/
[15:45] <buhman> impradeepy: I disagree
[15:45] <pandaroot> geirha, that's a good link
[15:45] <pandaroot> buhman, ok
[15:45] <impradeepy> why?
[15:46] <buhman> not interested
[15:46] <buhman> !bail
[15:46] <impradeepy> ok
[15:46] <bazhang> buhman, thats not helpful
[15:46] <apatters> sudo shutdown -P now
[15:49] <xarac__> did any one have installed openerp from source code in ubuntu?
[15:50] <melhisedek> should performance of the Nvidia proprietary and unofficial drivers (ex g xorg-edgers PPA) be roughly the same?
[15:52] <skinux> I'm curious, is Ubuntu for Android a complete OS (ROM), a complex app, or what?
[15:52] <bazhang> skinux, #ubuntu-touch for that
[15:55] <Trudko> hi guys i order new VPS and they gave me only one user to log in root. I gues sI should create new user and maybe give him root rights?
[15:56] <dariusc93> Trudko: you may want to create new user away from  root for security purposes
[15:56] <Trudko> what do you mean by away? btw if I dont give him root rights i will just have to use  sudo everytime more or less i want to do something  right?
[15:57] <ddssc> my ubuntu completely died on me. got some kernel bug(which i didn't write down). can't run anything in recovery mode all I get is a blank screen. what to do? WHAT TO DO?!
[15:57] <ddssc> ubuntu 12.0 something
[15:58] <ddssc> it just died for no reason whatsoever, I didn't run anything special.
[15:58] <ddssc> and now I can't boot into anything..
[15:58] <ArnoMoonen> I figured I could just force the installation of LiveUSB, but that does not seem to work (it requires python2.5-gtk2, but I have a newer version, so dpkg won't install that)
[15:58] <ddssc> not even console
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> ddssc: maybe it was a kernel panic....
[15:59] <ddssc> Ari-Yang, it stated "kernel bug" in the bsod
[15:59] <ddssc> im using win now..
[15:59] <ArnoMoonen> So.. any other suggestions on how to create a live USB stick from a running live environment?
[16:00] <Ari-Yang> ddssc: there is no such thing as BSOD on ubuntu afaik.... ddssc so you installed windows on the computer where ubuntu crashed on?
[16:00] <ddssc> Ari-Yang,yes there is a bsod. BLACK screen of death. :p I have dual boot
[16:01] <Ari-Yang> ddssc: ah.... well I'm not sure, I suggest doing research while you wait for somebody to get to you
[16:01] <ddssc> Ari-Yang, looked somewhat like this : http://www.bhalash.com/archives/13544792823
[16:01] <ddssc> not sure if it was a disk error, I rebooted immediately
[16:01] <ddssc> :/
[16:02] <dariusc93> ddssc: put in a livecd in and mount your partition and check the logs and see what happen
[16:04] <daivyk> hi, I have installed eclipse + tomcat7 without a problem, but I am trying to create a Server from eclipse, I already have the Server Runtime set but when I select Tomcat 7.0 it seems that eclipse can't find the Runtime configure with Tomcat7, anyone know why? maybe some file permission? (i checked everything is fine)
[16:04] <ddssc> daivyk, eclipse is aids. use IDEA if you must code java
[16:05] <abradley> I have this in smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214345/  but I'm getting this error when I try to write to the share from windows 7: http://i.imgur.com/KNN3yOv.png
[16:05] <daivyk> ddssc: kkkk
[16:05] <skinux> Is Unity more popular than regular Gnome?
[16:08] <Ari-Yang> skinux: not sure... why?
[16:08] <XURL> skinux: judging by what
[16:15] <Trudko> guys if i have error checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one do i need to instal l  build-essential checkinstall ?
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> skinux: considering unity is ubuntu specific, where gnome is used across a wide variety of distros then I'd say gnome would be more popular... but it really does depend on what you mean exactly by popular... its a very subjective
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> question
[16:18] <BluesKaj> Trudko, yes you need build-essential if your'e compiling from source
[16:24] <dell> hey
[16:24] <jmgk> hi dell
[16:26] <dell> yo
[16:27] <x0077BE> Oi oi. I have a question.
[16:27] <x0077BE> I have just built a program (hostapd) from source, and it built it in whatever directory it was in.
[16:28] <x0077BE> How do I like... install it?
[16:28] <x0077BE> Because when I install it from apt-get, it puts it in various places.
[16:28] <x0077BE> /sbin/, /etc/, etc.
[16:28] <x0077BE> But when I build it it's just sitting there in the hostapd file.
[16:29] <Tylertwo> x0077BE, were you having an issue with it being in various places?
[16:29] <loa> x0077BE, you can do make install, but it is not ubuntu way
[16:29] <x0077BE> No, but I had to use a custom config.
[16:29] <buhman> x0077BE: generally build systems will have an 'install' target or similar, but realize if you do this directly, the copied files will not be tracked by your package manager
[16:29] <x0077BE> So I can't use the binary from the repository.
[16:30] <buhman> x0077BE: and modifying the source package wasn't an option why?
[16:30] <Godmy> hello, let's suppose I have a some Ubuntu 5 (Dapper Drake) on one computer, not functioning CD Rom (nor any CDRom elsewhere I can use), being unable to use the USB slot to boot (already tried creating livecd to USB - which works elsewhere but not on that computer) - but I can load the USB flash stick when I'm in the system: can I create there a "live partition"?
[16:30] <x0077BE> I'm not sure what that means.
[16:30] <x0077BE> buhman: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd
[16:30] <x0077BE> I followed the instructions there.
[16:30] <x0077BE> It worked fine.
[16:30] <buhman> and?
[16:30] <buhman> why do I care?
[16:31] <Godmy> (since I can access the "livecd" only via some preinstalled OS... I could of course try to connect there some hdd with liveCD... but that's too much work)
[16:31] <x0077BE> I just don't quite get what you mean by "modifying the source package"
[16:31] <x0077BE> I can build my own config and import it into the package manager?
[16:31] <Godmy> (and thank you in advance :) )
[16:32] <buhman> Godmy: if you had space available on your target disk, you could simply chroot your installation media and continue with the installation that way
[16:32] <buhman> x0077BE: I suggest you read up on how ubuntu packaging works.
[16:32] <Godmy> hm, I have to learn more about the procedure :)
[16:33] <buhman> Godmy: you'll loop mount said installation media, mount api filesystems, then chroot(1)
[16:33] <wylde> !checkinstall | x0077BE
[16:34] <x0077BE> ubottu, Thanks.
[16:34] <dell> hey
[16:34] <x0077BE> Oh. Then thanks wylde
[16:34] <wylde> np
[16:35] <Coleman> sup
[16:35] <dell> hello coleman
[16:35] <dell> my name is dell
[16:35] <Coleman> i love you dell help me shoot my source code into your network port
[16:36] <dell> ;O
[16:42] <foofoobar> How to install latex without the gui ?
[16:43] <Myrtti> foofoobar: with apt-get?
[16:43] <andromeduck> recently lost about half of my home dir due to a disk issue, recovered almost everything except I keep getting this when I try to use apt-get http://pastebin.com/M4EfQ8W3
[16:43] <andromeduck> foobArrr, install texlive?
[16:45] <foofoobar> Myrtti, I meant without the tex gui
[16:46] <cariveri> Hi. can someone tell me how to set the networkmanagers values from the terminal? upping the interface leads to reload ips from those config values instead of ifconfiged ones.
[16:46] <foofoobar> andromeduck, okay, I thought this already installs the gui
[16:46] <foofoobar> thanks
[16:46] <Myrtti> oh yeah, you can have a tex gui, totally forgot that such thing exists
[16:48] <raub> Do you know how you can force a usb drive to be always mounted in a certain mountpoint using its uuid? Is there a way to always associate another usb device -- say a serial or wireless one -- with a /dev/something?
[16:48] <andromeduck> cariveri, check out the ip command http://linux.die.net/man/8/ip
[16:51] <Rallias> Is there an easy way to configure my /etc/network/interfaces file from a bash script?
[16:56] <andromeduck> nvm I just solved it
[16:57] <veryhappy> hi guys where can I use AES in my system
[16:58] <ikonia> veryhappy: what do you mean, "where can you use it" ?
[16:59] <veryhappy> for which purposes in Ubuntu can I use AES?
[16:59] <ikonia> it's an encyption standard, so you use it for encyption
[16:59] <SolarisBoy> AES is generally used in encryption
[16:59] <veryhappy> that's what I already know fortunately
[16:59] <SolarisBoy> so what do you mean?
[17:00] <ikonia> then what are you asking ?
[17:00] <veryhappy> I want to know what I can use this encryption for.
[17:01] <ikonia> veryhappy: encypting things....anything you want
[17:01] <SolarisBoy> to protect sensitive data
[17:01] <SolarisBoy> yea
[17:02] <raub> veryhappy: find what you are trying to encrypt -- ldap, kerberos, ssh, pgp, etc -- and see if it supports that
[17:03] <raub> My rule of thumb is to use the strongest encryption both parties can support
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> veryhappy: you're probably using AES right now if you're using wifi ... Most modern wifi routers default to AES encryption
[17:03] <ikonia> my rule of thumb is...if you don't know what it is/how to use it/what to encrypt, stop thinking about it
[17:04] <dsb> why does the kernel try to IP-Config during boot on an Ubuntu machine, even if there is no network configuration, or even network connected?  My system is looping with "IP-Config: ethX hardware address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx mtu 1500 DHCP RARP" endlessly during boot.
[17:04] <veryhappy> OK so I can use it to encrypt my emails? keyword NSA? or files/directories/partitions/hard disks/perhaps also CD ROMs/DVDs?
[17:04] <SolarisBoy> openssl/openssh both support AES - we use it more often than we think
[17:04] <ikonia> not this NSA stuff again
[17:05] <ikonia> veryhappy: if the encyption tool you are using supports it - you can use it to encypt anything, keep in mind it needs to be unencypted also
[17:05] <Trudko> guys i have warning when istalling passanger(ruby gem) WARNING: Apache doesn't seem to be compiled with the 'prefork', 'worker' or 'event' MPM  We recommend you to abort this installer and to recompile Apache with either the 'prefork' or the 'worker' MPM. How to recompile it I have never done it
[17:06] <raub> dsb: using network manager?
[17:06] <dsb> No
[17:06] <dsb> This is a server.
[17:06] <ikonia> Trudko: you don't need to recompile it, there is an apache prefork package
[17:06] <dsb> And it's right after the NIC driver is loaded.
[17:06] <SolarisBoy> Trudko: just install the prefork version
[17:06] <raub> Trudko: I think there are diff apache packages for that
[17:06] <veryhappy> ikonia like you I'd like not to think about this NSA stuff again the NSA makes us think about privacy
[17:06] <Trudko> so should I unstill existing apache and istall prefork one?!
[17:06] <ikonia> it really doesn't
[17:06] <dsb> We had a power outage yesterday, and this server is doing this now.
[17:07] <SolarisBoy> Trudko: sure
[17:07] <SolarisBoy> Trudko: back up your configs first.
[17:07] <dsb> I just don't understand why the kernel is doing anything with the NIC configuration at this point.  It's not ifup/ifdown stuff.  I would understand if it was doing a network boot, but it's not.
[17:07] <Trudko> SolarisBoy: apache configs?
[17:08] <SolarisBoy> Trudko: yes
[17:08] <veryhappy> thank you guys
[17:08] <veryhappy> take care
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> Trudko: I'd also suggest looking into using nginx with passenger instead of apache ... nginx is much more lightweight than apache
[17:09] <Trudko> hitsujiTMO: thx for the tip, but I am istalling into production and I dont have experience with nginx so I dont want to switch on last moment
[17:10] <SolarisBoy> good call..
[17:11] <raub> dsb: I am curious myself. I always thought the kernel would only care about whether there is a network device or not. And then pass that to the network scripts which should then read /etc/network/interfaces
[17:11] <raub> Scary if you ask me
[17:12] <dsb> raub: that was my understanding, too.
[17:12] <dsb> I've booted into a live usb stick OK, and see the filesystems w/o problem.
[17:13] <njsg> dsb: I think there are zeroconfiguration mechanisms for some networks. here at least I think ipv6 gets configured if I simply bring the device up
[17:13] <gdos> geirha: echo $TERM returns xterm
[17:13] <gdos> hitsujiTMO: echo $PS1 returns: \[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$
[17:13] <raub> dsb: I do know systemd might do some stuff like that. But then again I like to blame systemd for all that is wrong in the universe
[17:14] <dsb> raub: well, isn't it?
[17:14] <ikonia> gdos: how did you launch that
[17:14] <ikonia> gdos: as TERM should not be "xterm" unless it really is an xterm
[17:14] <gdos> ActionParsnip: cat /etc/issue returns: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[17:14] <spm-Draget> I am instlaling icinga and want to monitor other ubuntu linux hosts. This howto http://www.howtoforge.com/server-monitoring-with-icinga-on-ubuntu-11.10-p3 says I should use nrpe and install the package 'nagios-nrpe-plugin'. But this packages pulls nagios?!
[17:14] <ESPGuillermo> If I boot Ubuntu from USB, will it install to my hard drive or on to my actual USB?
[17:14] <spm-Draget> Can someone clarify how to monitor other linux hosts with icinga?
[17:14] <ikonia> spm-Draget: using a howtoforge link = bad, using a howtoforge link for an old release = very bad
[17:15] <gdos> ikonia: through xfce-terminal and again through guake.
[17:15] <raub> ESPGuillermo: if you are using the normal ubuntu install image, it should ask you wehre you want to put it
[17:15] <spm-Draget> ikonia: True.
[17:15] <Pici> spm-Draget: don't install recommends when you install nagios-nrpe-plugin.
[17:15] <Pici> spm-Draget: i.e.: sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends nagios-nrpe-plugin.
[17:15] <ESPGuillermo> raub yeah it does, only option is C:\ drive which I don't have enough storage for, say 18gb, Ubuntu. So I'm considering an external hard drive to install ubuntu
[17:16] <spm-Draget> Pici: Thanks
[17:17] <raub> ESPGuillermo: should work; put external drive in one usb port, the boot disk in the other and off you go. FYI, I have run ubuntu in 5GB disks before
[17:17] <raub> Just depends on what you need
[17:23] <fellayaboy> will a sudo apt-get upgrade continue to run even if i close the terminal???
[17:23] <tgm4883> fellayaboy, no
[17:23] <ESPGuillermo> Would you say Ubuntu > Windows for performance?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust>  fellayaboy if you want that, use screen
[17:23] <ESPGuillermo> I'd switch fully to Ubuntu but a lot of the programs I use aren't compatibly
[17:23] <fellayaboy> damn. what do i do now
[17:23] <tgm4883> ESPGuillermo, depends
[17:23] <tgm4883> fellayaboy, was it still downloading, or was it installing?
[17:24] <fellayaboy> i mistakely closed the terminal during that upgrade...
[17:24] <fellayaboy> i think it was installing
[17:24] <tgm4883> hmm
[17:24] <fellayaboy> i tried to run apt-get upgrade but it says its locked by dkpg
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> fellayaboy  type screen, a new terminal layer opens... run apt-get... you can now close the terminal and even logout, it will continue
[17:24] <JediMaster> has anyone got the ubuntu repo version of cinnamon interface working on Saucy? When I try I get errors saying dbus javascript is missing and the UI doesn't load
[17:24] <fellayaboy> i know about screen
[17:25] <JediMaster> fellayaboy,  doing it as sudo or root?
[17:25] <fellayaboy> sudo
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> JediMaster  saucy support in #ubuntu+1
[17:25] <bodhi64> hello im having  troubles with right clicking. can't seem to bring up the traditional copy paste menu from right clicking
[17:25] <fellayaboy> dpkg process is still running though
[17:25] <JediMaster> MonkeyDust, ah yes, I'm a few days early here =)
[17:25] <fellayaboy> should i kill the process and try again?
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> bodhi64  in bodhi linux? if yes: it's not supported here
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> JediMaster  using the release candidate? :)
[17:26] <ESPGuillermo> Which is the best Linux OS? And what are the reasons for having many different ones?
[17:26] <bodhi64> its dead in there. thought maybe its ubuntu based and maybe someone knows the package that maybe bodhi is missing for this function
[17:26] <Yowl> Something in the ~ directory, means it's in home, right?
[17:26] <LiENUS> how do i go about converting .amr to mp3 in ubuntu?
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> LiENUS  winFF is a nice ffmpeg GUI
[17:27] <LiENUS> .wav would work but i need to email a couple phone conversations :/
[17:27] <mydog2> hey guys.. anyone here have knowledge of the old dlink routers
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> ESPGuillermo: best linux OS is Linux
[17:27] <tgm4883> Yowl, yes, ~/ is a shortcut to your home directory
[17:27] <mydog2> i'm trying to use on as a hub to allow a couple of dells to talk on the same subnet..
[17:28] <bodhi64> LiENUS u can use audacity
[17:28] <ESPGuillermo> hitsujiTMO huh? I thought there was like loads of different linux distributions
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> ESPGuillermo: best linux 'distro' tho is what ever you feel most comfortable with
[17:28] <LiENUS> MonkeyDust, isnt ffmpeg for movies or does it do audio only?
[17:28] <mydog2> i disabled the dhcp, set the ip of the device to be in the same sub 192.168.5.200
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> LiENUS  both
[17:28] <LiENUS> bodhi64, that sounds like it might work better i forgot about audacity
[17:28] <JediMaster> MonkeyDust, yes, various issues, but pretty much every time I apt-get upgrade they're fixed, apart from this cinnamon one which makes it unusable =(
[17:28] <mydog2> turned off all the filters i could find.
[17:29] <ESPGuillermo> Ubuntu seems the most popular, so think I'm going to go with that
[17:29] <mydog2> plugged in the main eth and the two dells.. and i can only see one of the dells..
[17:29] <bodhi64> ESPGuillermo. you can also go with ubuntu based distros
[17:29] <mydog2> both machines work with the correct dhcp/eth addresses if i directly connect via the main eth
[17:30] <ESPGuillermo> What is the Ubuntu speed in comparison to standard Windows 7?
[17:31] <bzk23> nod
[17:31] <bzk23> sup
[17:31] <bzk23> yo
[17:31] <kongthap> after using fsck to i got lost+found directory on each partition, should i delete it???
[17:31] <bzk23> sure
[17:31] <paulus68_1> mydog2: pay attention if you switch the main eth cable the router/HUB will still remember the Ip adress given to the first Dell if you put the cable in the second Dell it's not going to work before you have reset the router/hub
[17:31] <LiENUS> MonkeyDust, tried ffmpeg and i get this error "Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame'
[17:31] <LiENUS> "
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> ESPGuillermo: that question makes absolutely no sense
[17:32] <ESPGuillermo> hitsujiTMO yes it does. I was asking for somebody to compare the general speed of Ubuntu vs Windows 7
[17:32] <paulus68_1> ESPGuillermo: Ubuntu is faster in my opinion and consumes less space compared to a windows 7 installation
[17:33] <bodhi64> and thats just ubuntu. go with a lighter distro and its even faster
[17:35] <JediMaster> Ubuntu 13.10 boots from POST to desktop with password typing time in around 5 seconds for me (booting from a 550MB/sec SSD)
[17:35] <skinnybear> not bad Jedi
[17:35] <datacrusher> hello everyone! I installed ubnutu lts on a friends hp notebook, with onboard ati vga. I managed to install the experimental drivers and got even team fortress running like a charm on the machine. but, after the last atomatic updates (as he told me, doubt he made any advanced tweaking on the system) the lightdm boot after inserting the password just bounces back to login screen
[17:36] <skinnybear> could you clarify what is wrong with lightdm?
[17:39] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214710/
[17:39] <fishcooker> why there is no output from the serial device
[17:40] <El_Buda> Hi all, how can i remove old kernels??
[17:44] <Slart> El_Buda: use apt-get remove with the older kernel package you no longer want installed
[17:48] <paulus68> El_Buda: try this link http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/ubuntu-cleanup-how-to-remove-all-unused-linux-kernel-headers-images-and-modules/
[17:49] <paulus68> Slart: you need to pay attention because you can get unmet dependencies which you need to clean afterwards
[17:49] <abradley> I have this in smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214345/  but I'm getting this error when I try to write to the share from windows 7: http://i.imgur.com/KNN3yOv.png
[17:49] <Slart> paulus68: by just using regular apt-get? isn't that supposed to take care of dependencies?
[17:50] <paulus68> Slart: no I'm afraid not
[17:51] <paulus68> abradley: just a thought did you restart your samba?
[17:51] <abradley> indeed, thanks though
[17:52] <raub> El_Buda: that link should work fine if you have disk space left (/usr or /var?)
[17:53] <Slart> El_Buda: oh.. and a quick gotcha since that link had some handy terminal commands for you to copy paste.. here's a small warning about doing just that.. ie copying commands from a website http://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste
[17:54] <raub> But, Slart! It's fun to mindless copy commands that are to be run as root from websites! What can possibly go wrong? ;)
[17:55] <El_Buda> Thank you guys!
[17:56] <Slart> raub: indeed... sometimes I think that might be biggest weakness when it comes to security in linux.. people willingy running almost anything in a terminal window =)
[17:56] <aerodynamix> Guys! Is it impossible to play games on ubuntu?...If Yes, Why?
[17:56] <trism> El_Buda: if you are on 13.04 or newer, older kernels should be automatically unmarked so you might just need a: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove;
[17:56] <El_Buda> I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS installed trism
[17:56] <raub> aerodynamix: it all depends on the game
[17:56] <El_Buda> can i remove kernel-pae too?
[17:56] <Slart> aerodynamix: it's not impossible.. you might have to struggle a bit to play the big windows-games on linux.. but there are plenty of games available
[17:57] <aerodynamix> @raub: Let's say GTA 4..
[17:57] <Slart> !wine | aerodynamix
[17:58] <Slart> aerodynamix: no guarantees that gta4 will work out of the box but you can check that yourself in the application database (appdb.winehq.com)
[17:58] <raub> El_Buda: oldwzder versions, probably. I'd keep the last one around
[17:58] <paulus68> abradley: perhaps this link can help you out https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[17:59] <aerodynamix> @Slart: I've checked it.. it isn't there..I just wanted to know the root cause all these pitfalls...
[17:59] <Slart> aerodynamix: huh? not in there? but gta4 is a couple of years old, right?
[17:59] <raub> aerodynamix: remmeber Windows != Linux no matter what systemd thinks
[18:00] <spm-Draget> aerodynamix: Many games are windows only. You can try using WINE - a way I am able to play quite a few games (Wizardry 7, CS:GO, Oddworld, Older ones) but many games run via wine are buggy. GTA 4 will most likely not work bug-free. Check the winehq.org appdb
[18:00] <Slart> aerodynamix: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8757
[18:00] <spm-Draget> aerodynamix: Steam has many Linux games tho - I have > 100 in there =D
[18:01] <fishcooker> do i have the right driver for these devices if http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214775/?
[18:01] <aerodynamix> thanks all...
[18:01] <El_Buda> thank you raub
[18:02] <raub> fishcooker: meaning? It is not working?
[18:02] <raub> El_Buda: just to make sure you have free disk space but just want to do some trimming?
[18:03] <raub> As opposite to me who usually runs a 512MB /boot, 2GB /usr and /var partitions ;)
[18:03] <fishcooker> yes i do have those serial because on 12.04 i can get the output from those serial
[18:03] <El_Buda> raub,  only for cleaning
[18:04] <fishcooker> but right  now on 10.04 i get Nothing raub
[18:04] <aerodynamix> @spm-Draget@Slart@raub@ubottu:  Guys..why aren't the games directly built for linux by EA Sports,Rockstar Games etc
[18:04] <raub> El_Buda: Cool. Because if you were running out of disk space things are a bit more invovled.
[18:04] <spm-Draget> aerodynamix: Why do you ask this in here?
[18:04] <spm-Draget> aerodynamix: Ask those companies.
[18:04] <Slart> aerodynamix: that's not really a question we can answer.. my guess is money
[18:05] <raub> aerodynamix: market share? Perceived return? Inertia? Aliens? Anal probing?
[18:05] <aerodynamix> thanks..i wouldn't ask about it again..
[18:05] <Ziber> Is there a recommended, safe way to configure my trackpad to be able to switch between virtual desktops, a la Mac OSX?
[18:05] <fishcooker> do i have wrong driver for these devices here raub?
[18:05] <El_Buda> raub, i use an SSD so all space is important hehe
[18:06] <raub> aerodynamix: you might email the publisher
[18:06] <raub> If enough people ask for linux support they might put th emoney and do it
[18:06] <aerodynamix> @raub: yeah..
[18:06] <kostkon> aerodynamix, slowly most of them will start releasing for linux. Just be patient. Check on steam
[18:07] <raub> fishcooker: Not necessarily. Any thing funny in dmesg?
[18:07] <aerodynamix> @kostkon: okay.. i will
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> Ziber  depends on how MacOS does it
[18:07] <tgm4883> aerodynamix, seriously, ask the publisher
[18:07] <kostkon> aerodynamix, maybe except EA
[18:07] <raub> aerodynamix: remember that most games are for the consoles and windows. Even Macs do not have that many games
[18:08] <raub> unless you are talking baout ipads and iphones that is ;)
[18:08] <kostkon> raub, most games are on android
[18:08] <aerodynamix> @raub: yes...:-)
[18:08] <raub> kostkon: you got my drift ;)
[18:09] <Ziber> MonkeyDust: Well, I'd like an easy way (probably with a mulit-touch gesture) to switch between them.
[18:09] <aerodynamix> @kostkon: why except EA?
[18:09] <kostkon> aerodynamix, because they stopped publishing their games on steam
[18:10] <ed__> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to read udf files?
[18:10] <aerodynamix> @kostkon: ok..thanks.
[18:11] <kostkon> aerodynamix, but you never know.
[18:11] <paulus68> ed__: for what purpose?
[18:11] <Ziber> MonkeyDust: I've read http://task3.cc/1068/os-x-like-multitouch-gestures-for-macbook-pro-running-ubuntu-12-10/ but I'm nervous about making that many system modifications... I don't want to permanently skrew anything up.
[18:11] <ed__> @paulus68: I am trying to get it to read a windows 7 installation disc
[18:12] <dhrosa> hello, I have a problem with my keyboard  where  sometimes the  spacebar gets  double p ressed, can I configure ubuntu to ignore repeated key presses?
[18:12] <paulus68> ed__: udf stands for user defined format  and why do you want linux to read window7 install disk
[18:14] <tgm4883> paulus68, I think you mean "Universal Disk Format"
[18:14] <ed__> paulus68: as far as I know, udf stands for universal disc format. I'm trying to reinstall windows 7 because I don't want ubuntu anymore, but a lot of linux os have trouble reading udf
[18:14] <ed__> I've read advice on various forums, but nothing seems to work
[18:15] <dhrosa> aha,  found it  under  universal access
[18:16] <tgm4883> ed__, looks like you need udftools libudf0
[18:16] <paulus68> ed__: and what if you create a bootable usb for windows 7
[18:16] <aerodynamix> spm-Draget  |  Slart  |  raub  |  ubottu  |  kostkon  : and there's SteamOS, released just 2 weeks ago...
[18:16] <kostkon> aerodynamix, not released yet actually, just announced
[18:17] <aerodynamix> @kostkon: oh..
[18:17] <Slart> aerodynamix: yes, things are looking better and better with each day.. but this is getting offtopic.. #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better place for this discussion
[18:17] <ed__> tgm4883: I've downloaded udftools but haven't been able to figure out how to use it.
[18:18] <aerodynamix> @Slart: i'm an IRC newbie..so i'm just getting a hang of things around..i'll see #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:19] <aerodynamix> @Slart: thanks..
[18:19] <Slart> aerodynamix: you're welcome
[18:19] <tgm4883> ed__, a quick search says k3b has udf support
[18:20] <fishcooker> yes this is the output here, raub.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214775/ also this
[18:20] <tgm4883> ed__, but IDK, I've always just used ISO format, which begs the question, where did you get a UDF file?
[18:20] <aerodynamix> Which one is the best book to start learning BASH and linux stuff..
[18:21] <ed__> tgm4883: I know a computer repair guy who I asked for a windows 7 installation disc, and that just happened to be the format
[18:21] <tgm4883> ...
[18:21] <paulus68>  !manual | aerodynamix
[18:21] <Rory> !cli | aerodynamix
[18:21] <fishcooker> this is the funny thing raub http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214857/
[18:22] <fishcooker> there is two serial disabled
[18:23] <paulus68> ed__: the best thing that you can do in my opinion is find a windows 7 iso on the net and use the serial you got from your friend
[18:23] <tgm4883> paulus68, uh, we don't support that here
[18:23] <paulus68> tgm4883: I know
[18:23] <aerodynamix> paulus68|ubottu|Rory: Thanks guys!
[18:24] <paulus68> tgm4883: can just suggest it
[18:24] <tgm4883> paulus68, no, don't even suggest it
[18:26] <paulus68> tgm4883: we try to help the guy I give a possible solution and he can use this info or just put it aside it's his choice
[18:26] <tgm4883> !piracy | paulus68
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> I guess he could purchase an MSDN subscription and download the ISO from there :P
[18:27] <tgm4883> hitsujiTMO, he could if he was a developer
[18:29] <paulus68> tgm4883: I didn't use any links what so ever but the remark is noted!!
[18:31] <havv> I'm using Xubuntu 13.04 and I got a notification saying I have 3 updates available, but when I try to see what are those updates it tells my that everything is up to date
[18:32] <Rory> havv: use the terminal to run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> havv: prob kernel update
[18:34] <havv> thanks! it worked
[18:35] <Rory> havv: No problem, glad to hear it =)
[18:42] <ed__> can anyone help me uninstall ubuntu?
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> ed__ ... you can't 'uninstall' an OS
[18:43] <paulus68> Rory: FYI after changing the settings and rebooting the language settings where adapted
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> ed__ you need to install a different OS in it's place
[18:43] <ed__> I cant get it to read the udf disc I'm using to reinstall windows
[18:43] <Soul-Sing> hai, is it possible to contact ubuntu-rt via a channel on feenode?
[18:44] <ed__> I've tried a few different things, and nothing seems to work
[18:44] <CatKiller> ed__: You can use wubi if you installed ubuntu with it
[18:44] <repudiate> Soul-Sing: Ubuntu-rt, what's that?
[18:44] <CatKiller> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[18:44] <repudiate> CatKiller: Are you really a CatKiller ?
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> ed__: have you tried renameing the .udf to .iso?
[18:44] <repudiate> That's awful CatKiller
[18:44] <paulus68> ed__:  can you boot from that cd?
[18:44] <IdleOne> Soul-Sing: as far as I know the only way is via rt at ubuntu.com
[18:45] <CatKiller> repudiate: What's a catkiller?
[18:45] <repudiate> One who kills cats?
[18:45] <Soul-Sing> IdleOne, thx
[18:45] <CatKiller> No, it would be "cat killer"
[18:45] <repudiate> oh, thanks for clarifying.
[18:45] <CatKiller> the space (or lack of) is important
[18:45] <ed__> paulus68: I cannot boot from that CD. I think that's primarily the issue/
[18:46] <tgm4883> ed__, I'd suggest you order a replacement disk from microsoft
[18:46] <repudiate> CatKiller: So ISuckDick, would mean that...you actually, right?
[18:46] <ed__> tgm4883: I would, but they want to charge nearly $200 for a premium support package
[18:47] <CatKiller> repudiate: You're being less than polite
[18:47] <repudiate> CatKiller: Soryy, just a joke (in bad taste)
[18:47] <CatKiller> repudiate: That's ok
[18:47] <ed__> It looks like I might just have to find another disc though
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> ed__ is it a .udf file or udf file system?
[18:47]  * repudiate walks away shamefully.
[18:47] <CatKiller> repudiate: I love cats btw. The name doesn't mean what you think it does
[18:47] <CatKiller> repudiate: But the confusion is understandable
[18:47] <ed__> hitsujiTMO: it is a .udf file
[18:48] <CatKiller> repudiate: It was supposed to mean the opposite
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> ed__: http://myfotoblast.com/blog/?p=452
[18:48] <tgm4883> ed__, I'm looking at a post right now where someone says it's $30
[18:49] <tgm4883> ed__, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326246
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> ed__: in future, you should create an image of your computer before installing a new OS if you do not have the installation media
[18:50] <paulus68> ed__: I'd go with hitsujitmo's suggestion
[18:50] <repudiate> What is the best way to take an image of your computer? Is there any free software?
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> repudiate: dd
[18:50] <delinquentme> so I'm supposed to get 4 hours of battery out of this new laptop
[18:51] <delinquentme> is there some ubuntu util for tuning this battery use?
[18:51] <delinquentme> im getitng < 2 hrs
[18:51] <tgm4883> repudiate, http://clonezilla.org/
[18:51] <repudiate> tgm4883: Thanks.
[18:51] <repudiate> hitsujiTMO: DD?
[18:51] <repudiate> As in the cup size?
[18:51] <micho> hello. How  can I know that I have my /home folder encrypted? (Ubuntu 13). I know that there was a checkbox during installation, but I don't remember if I used it.
[18:51] <tgm4883> delinquentme, I had a similar issue  until I installed the prop video drivers
[18:51] <tgm4883> !info dd
[18:52] <tgm4883> well fine then
[18:52] <paulus68> !backup|repudiate
[18:52] <ed__> thanks, everyone. I'll give those suggestions a shot.
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> repudiate: dd is a command line util that allows you to copy a drive to a file, and back
[18:52] <paulus68> !dd
[18:52] <nick__> repudiate: I like and use g4l -> it's a live cd: http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> delinquentme: is it a fresh install?
[18:54] <delinquentme> hitsujiTMO, yeaaaa!
[18:54] <delinquentme> tgm4883, unfortunately the video drivers killed the display
[18:54] <delinquentme> =[
[18:55] <tgm4883> delinquentme, what video card/laptop?
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> delinquentme: i had a few odd issues with battery calibration for the first few runs of ubuntu on my current laptop ... what specs?
[18:56] <delinquentme> tried installing them and they just shit out all display operations
[18:56] <delinquentme> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313584
[18:56] <FloodBot1> delinquentme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:56] <delinquentme> so yeah its a pretty  new model
[18:57] <leptone_> please help. trying to install Mathematica. encountering error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6215002/
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> oooh that does look like a battery eater alright
[18:58] <leptone_> following this article: http://kobriniq.ru/mathematica/ustanovka-mathematica-9-v-operatsionnoy-sisteme-linux-os-mint-ubuntu
[18:59] <trism> leptone_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1323342 suggests you should remove the spaces from the folder name to fix the issue
[19:00] <trism> leptone_: so: mv 'Mathematica 9 Linux' Mathematica9Linux
[19:00] <micho> How  can I know that I have my /home folder encrypted? (Ubuntu 13). I know that there was a checkbox during installation, but I don't remember if I used it.
[19:00] <delinquentme> hitsujiTMO, but the specs are claiming 4 horus
[19:00] <delinquentme> hours **
[19:00] <delinquentme> in addition its the 4th gen haswell
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> delinquentme: unfortunately i don't know any specific tools, but have a read thru https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement for tweaks you can do ... turning down brightness is one of the biggest power savers
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> delinquentme: its 4 hours ... but is that on idle?
[19:01] <tgm4883> delinquentme, it's really very simple. The open source video drivers don't know how to handle that hardware. It's likely that you have 3 video cards all powered and running at the same time.
[19:02] <CTravain> Hello
[19:02] <tgm4883> that is the exact issue I had
[19:02] <n0ldor> hi
[19:03] <Lixd> Hi, if I make a live CD out of my secondary harddrive (don't ask me why), can I use it then as a source for installation to the main drive? (if I choose to boot from the secondary one) I guess I can, I'm just curious if somebody has tried it
[19:04] <fellayaboy> how can i burn a data dvd made from files and folders using terminal
[19:04] <mallu> Hi.. I have an openldap server and now trying to figure out NFS and automount for home directories... Any documents/sites you can share with me how to do it? I looked all over and unable to find oone
[19:04] <leptone_> trism, awesome thx a lot!
[19:04] <Lixd> (I would make that liveCD using unetbootin )
[19:05] <n0ldor> i have ubuntu in vmware and i have installed a mysql database, but i don't now how can i connect from the pc to this database, it shows to me this error: "Error SQL(2003) Can't connect to Mysq server"
[19:05] <gdos> hitsujiTMO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/1237594 (bug report filed on that issue we discussed earlier)
[19:06] <tgm4883> n0ldor, can you connect to it from the mysql server?
[19:06] <n0ldor> yes
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> n0ldor: by default mysql is set so its accessible by localhost only
[19:06] <mallu> i have nfs installed and working.. just need to figure out how to enable autofs schema and automount
[19:06] <martend> mallu: maybe fstab is for you
[19:07] <Rogue-3> n0ldor: edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and comment out or remove the "bind 127.0.0.1" line
[19:07] <tgm4883> n0ldor, then I agree with hitsujiTMO you'll need to set it to listen on more than localhost. See Rogue-3 above
[19:07] <n0ldor> Rogue-3: ok i try :D
 Hi, if I make a live CD out of my secondary harddrive (don't ask me why), can I use it then as a source for installation to the main drive? (if I choose to boot from the secondary one) I guess I can, I'm just curious if somebody has tried it (I would make that liveCD using unetbootin )
[19:07] <Lixd> :)
[19:09] <Voziv> Is there a way to only allow a hostname through the firewall? (Dynamic ip address issue)
[19:09] <Lixd> <- So I guess nobody has tried that...
[19:10] <saiarcot895> Lixd: I would guess it would work, provided you boot to that partition
[19:10] <ikonia> Lixd: a livecd is different from an installer, so it would depend on how you want to "use it as a source"
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> Voziv: is this in a local environment or over net?
[19:10] <Voziv> Over net
[19:11] <Lixd> saiarcot895: I will make sure;  ikonia: the utility unetbootin makes that possible as it seems
[19:11] <ejv> public facing mysql server, without a firewall device, is not recommended. use with caution.
[19:11] <Lixd> and should take care about MBR and such stuff
[19:11] <ikonia> Lixd: well no - it's not actually that simple
[19:11] <Lixd> ikonia:  it is not?
[19:11] <ikonia> Lixd: on paper the concept is sane,
[19:11] <tgm4883> Voziv, I would suggest port knocking
[19:11] <Lixd> So what's the problem?
[19:11] <ikonia> Lixd: keep in mind the installer expect certain things in certain loctions in a certain state, if you then change them and make a "new" livemedia, things may not be in the state expected
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> Voziv: I cannot think of a single way of allowing access via hostname ... but depending on the service there could be some other of securing the connection
[19:12] <Voziv> ok
[19:12] <Lixd> ikonia:  how so if it can work on a USB
[19:12] <tgm4883> !info knockd
[19:12] <ikonia> Lixd: what do you mean, how can it work, what is "it"
[19:12] <Lixd> I'm only intending to use another media
[19:12] <tgm4883> Voziv, I would look at knockd
[19:12] <Lixd> ikonia: isntallation of Ubuntu
[19:12] <Lixd> can be made to USB
[19:13] <ikonia> Lixd: yes, you can install the standard ubuntu image from a USB....that's not what you said, you said make a custom livecd.
[19:13] <Lixd> no
[19:13] <Lixd> or I'm sorry
[19:13] <Lixd> to make myself clear
[19:13] <tgm4883> !enter
[19:13] <Voziv> Thanks tgm4883, I know about port knocking already though
[19:13] <ikonia> have I missunderstood, if so sorry
[19:14] <Lixd> ikona: I want to proceed as if making a USB ubuntu installation flash drive, but with a harddisk (non usb)
[19:14] <Lixd> which... should work I suppose
[19:14] <ikonia> Lixd: ahhh
[19:14] <Lixd> (with my secondary harddisk)
[19:14] <Lixd> so I guess if I make my computer to boot at it, it should work as a USB
[19:14] <ikonia> Lixd: the issue you may have there is actually booting it, which should be an easy fix, but that should work
[19:14] <tgm4883> Voziv, I'm unaware of allowing a hostname though a firewall, but if you want something more secure than port knocking, perhaps single packet authorization?
[19:15] <Lixd> (that computer has problems with USB booting)
[19:15] <Lixd> ikonia: yeah...
[19:15] <ikonia> Lixd: apologies, miss-understood what you where trying to do
[19:15] <Lixd> that computer is right now cdrom-less (and I'm too in general) and having troubles booting from USB even when I choose to boot it... it always gives me "Boot error" (but the same flash drive works on any other computer )
[19:15] <Lixd> ikonia: no problem...
[19:16] <hitsujiTMO> voziv: the easiest option may be to use a vpn
[19:19] <Voziv> I just found an interesting approach. Running a cron job that resolves a host name periodically and updates the firewall based on the ip address
[19:21] <clarisse> Bonsoir
[19:21] <TJ-> Voziv: Allowing netfilters access to a hostname is possible, via scripting, if the DNS zone has a short TTL so the hostname and currently allocated IP are always in sync. A cron job runs every minute that does "iptables -D INPUT -s $LAST_IP/32 -j ACCEPT; LAST_IP=$(dig $HOSTNAME); iptables -A INPUT -s $LAST_IP/32 -j ACCEPT"
[19:22] <Voziv> yeah. I'm looking at doing something similar
[19:25] <TJ-> Voziv: Obviously the script needs to 'save' $LAST_IP to a file so it can be sourced each time the cron job runs. "echo LAST_IP=$LAST_IP >>/var/spool/fw-ip.sh" and in the cron job "$SAVED=/var/spool/fw-ip.sh; [ -n "$SAVED" -a -r "$SAVED" ] && source "$SAVED"  "
[19:25] <Voziv> TJ-: http://diginc.us/linux/2010/using-iptables-with-dynamic-ip-hostnames-like-dyndns-org/
[19:26] <TJ-> Voziv: That looks like overkill... no need to 'restart' iptables which infers flushing the tables and reloading, which could affect current connections
[19:26] <TJ-> Voziv: Just remove the old IP if it has changed, and insert the new one
[19:26] <Voziv> yeah
[19:26] <Voziv> I agree, but we're both on the same page
[19:27] <TJ-> Voziv: It all depends on a short TTL in the DNS zone to avoid caching locally
[19:27] <Voziv> If it's super important yeah
[19:27] <TJ-> If the TTL is 5 minutes make the cron job the same
[19:28] <TJ-> Voziv: The longer the TTL the longer the time you might have to wait to gain access if the stale rule is in place
[19:28] <Voziv> I'll be running somewhere between 30-60 minutes. The ip change is rare
[19:28] <Voziv> I think the TTL is 5 minutes, but I'm just not worried about checking that often
[19:28] <TJ-> Voziv: If the TTL is 30 minutes the cron job every 15 would make sense
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> Voziv: what protocol is the apps using to communicate?
[19:31] <Voziv> tcp
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> what protocol on top of tcp? or do you know?
[19:32] <brainwash> !nomodeset
[19:34] <Yowl> Does truecrypt get along with ubuntu very well?
[19:35] <Voziv> hitsujiTMO: Currently I'm just looking to wall of my sshd
[19:35] <skinux> I just installed w3c-markup-validator from repo, I can only find it in /usr/share, how do I fully install it for use?
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> are you using rsa auth?
[19:35] <TJ-> Voziv: openpvn! Don't leave SSH open at all... openvpn with UDP and a TA key is much safer
[19:36] <Voziv> It's already secure in the fact that there's only a single user with a single ssh key that can access the system. It's just peice of mind and less logs if outside connections are straight up rejected. And I'll know how to do it in the future :)
[19:36] <Voziv> TJ-: Sort of why I'm after firewalling it except the two ip's that matter
[19:38] <TJ-> Voziv: I use openvpn because once its up I can use any protocol I need, not limited to SSH. Makes testing, or accessing private LAN services much more streamlined. It also allows the server to 'push' to the client once the VPN tunnel is active.
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> Voziv: yeah if you want to add another layer of security then VPN would be the best choice
[19:38] <tqrst> is it normal for python binding packages like python-subversion to not track the current python version? Ubuntu came with python 2.7, yet python-subversion installs bindings specific to 2.6, which I can't load from 2.7.
[19:38] <marianne> hi guys... I'm looking for a text editor like Edit+ (where you can select what programming language you're writing in). The descriptions in the software center don't answer my questions. I'd also rather not have to run it thgough Wine, if possible. Anyone have any suggestions?
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> marianne: sublime text 2
[19:39] <Voziv> TJ-: Yup
[19:40] <TJ-> marianne: emacs or vim, if you don't mind terminals
[19:40] <Rory> marianne: geany, kate, or sublime text
[19:40] <marianne> hitsujiTMO: thanks, I'll look it up
[19:40] <marianne> TJ: terminal isn't bad, it's kinda how I started out
[19:40] <Voziv> or nano!
[19:41] <marianne> Rory: hummm... need to research the first 2, never heard of them
[19:41] <TJ-> marianne: Well emacs and vim have many supporting features for many programming languages, not least syntax highlighting and code-completion, build system integration, etc.
[19:41] <Rory> marianne: Kate is the default KDE text editor
[19:43] <nick__> marianne: I like gedit, but then I prefer the gnome desktop
[19:43] <TJ-> marianne: The ultimate of course is Eclipse IDE
[19:45] <marianne> TJ: I'm not a fan of Eclipse.... makes fun stuff look too much like work... and it's almost easier for me to work in a simple plain non-distracting window
[19:46] <toto6> hi ! Do you know how i can stretch image background in the terminal (terminator) ? thanks :)
[19:47] <marianne> Thanks guys... off to research
[19:47] <bbtech> Is there a way I can run a bash script without the ./ in front?
[19:48] <petrepatrasc> source <filename>?
[19:49] <bbtech> petrepatrasc, I meant just "filename" not "source filename"
[19:49] <Rory> !path | bbtech
[19:49] <comptroller> hey all,  how do I install a game that has no file extension? What is the command?
[19:49] <bbtech> Rory, the script is on the path and I'm in the directory where the script resides
[19:49] <Rory> bbtech: What's the output of "echo $PATH"
[19:49] <bbtech> I just want to type myProgram instead of ./myProgram, is it possible? without an alias?
[19:50] <Rory> comptroller: Completely depends on the application, what are you trying to install?
[19:50] <bbtech> Rory, why does it matter, I'm inside the directory where the script resides.
[19:50] <Rory> bbtech: Because that's how bash works
[19:50] <Rory> bbtech: It needs to be in a directory in your $PATH
[19:51] <bbtech> The path has /home/brett/.dotfiles/bin: ...which is where the script is
[19:51] <comptroller> Rory, I'm trying to run the LegendofDungeon install file
[19:51] <Rory> comptroller: Are you following a guide?
[19:52] <bbtech> Maybe I'm not being clear, I can run ./myProgram, sh myProgram, source myProgram....but I want to run myProgram
[19:52] <comptroller> Rory, no there isn't one with the torrent
[19:52] <TJ-> bbtech: Have you included a shebang line in the script?
[19:52] <bbtech> TJ-, yes
[19:52] <Rory> bbtech: And maybe I'm not being clear. The directory that myProgram is in needs to be in your $PATH
[19:52] <bbtech> Rory, it is
[19:52] <Rory> comptroller: and ./filename doesn't work?
[19:52] <Rory> bbtech: What's the output of "echo $PATH"
[19:53] <TJ-> bbtech: Then something in the PATH is stopping it. What do you get when you type "which myProgram"
[19:53] <bbtech> Rory, /home/brett/.dotfiles/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
[19:53] <Rory> bbtech: And is myProgram in one of those directories?
[19:53] <bbtech> TJ-, which myProgram returns nothing
[19:53] <bbtech> yes it is ....ohhh!
[19:53] <bbtech> sorry everyone!
[19:53] <Rory> bbtech: Bet you it isn;t
[19:54] <bbtech> it's in /home/brett/dotfiles/bin
[19:54] <Rory> =)
[19:54] <bbtech> not /home/brett/.dotfiles/bin
[19:54] <TJ-> bbtech: Then its not in any dir on the path, or else there's a typo
[19:54] <bbtech> stupid dot
[19:54] <bluj> ahhHhh
[19:54]  * TJ- sniggers
[19:54] <loa> can't understand one, thing... i noticed unstable work of my sistem and decide to try old kernels, but when i use them, after i logon i see only black screnn. So i see lightdm i enter login informatio, but after that going black screen.
[19:54] <loa> what it can be?
[19:54]  * bluj removes window flash on his name :-)
[19:54] <Rory> loa: Is it only old kernels that do this?
[19:55] <loa> Rory, last one is ok.
[19:55] <Rory> loa: Can you log into another user, or the guest user?
[19:55] <TJ-> loa: If you're using a proprietary graphics driver, it may be its kernel module hasn't been built for the older kernels
[19:56] <Rory> comptroller: You need to set the installer as executable by right-clicking it and going properties->allow executing
[19:56] <loa> TJ-, i have nvidia, so i use it? But... How lightdm works?
[19:56] <Rory> comptroller: Then you should be able to double click it to run it
[19:57] <TJ-> loa: Sounds like the nvidia module for the older kernels may not have been built... it uses DKMS to get built when a kernel is installed - usually - but it can fail to build against some kernels.
[19:57] <loa> I can run this procudure again?
[19:57] <Rory> loa: ls /var/lib/initramfs-tools | sudo xargs -n1 /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start
[19:58] <comptroller> Rory, I tried but it just starts playing music but no file opens.  I had to kill the process manually
[19:59] <Rory> comptroller: Try from the terminal: cd /path/to/directory then ./filename
[19:59] <loa> Rory i need to run update-initramfs after that?
[19:59] <Rory> loa: I don't know actually. Yes
[19:59] <Rory> loa: Doing so won't cause problems
[20:00] <loa> So can you explain me, how lightdm works well without driver?
[20:00] <loa> looks like it works on right resolution
[20:03] <duxb> I'm having trouble using S/MIME encryption/signing in thunderbird, anybody have any experience with it?
[20:04] <superjoe> hi - I tried to install Ubuntu 13.04 desktop 64-bit with a usb drive but it says mounting /dev/loop1 on /cow failed: invalid argument can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow
[20:05] <superjoe> then it drops me into an "initramfs" prompt.
[20:05] <Rory> superjoe: Did you use Startup Disk Creator to make the USB?
[20:05] <superjoe> Rory, yes
[20:05] <superjoe> usb-creator-gtk
[20:05] <Rory> superjoe: choose the "Discard changes after shutdown" option when I was using Start up disk creator program to create it
[20:05] <Rory> err I copied that
[20:05] <Rory> So the sentence doesn't make sense, but you know what I mean
[20:05] <superjoe> let me try to find that
[20:07] <iUnify> Hello guys, I have a quick question.... I have been here back and forth with Ubuntu issues and unable to resolve them with my hardware... I just got a windows8 dvd (dindt really want 8 but thats besides the point) and now I have NO idea how I am to install it... I can't run .exe from linux, the dvd doesnt run it if i boot to it... so, how do I go about this?
[20:08] <duxb> anybody know anything about using SSL certs in thunderbird to sign/encrypt?
[20:08] <Rory> iUnify: Completely offtopic
[20:08] <Rory> !ot | iUnify
[20:08] <Rory> iUnify: Ask in ##windows for windows-related support
[20:08] <iUnify> I understand, I have been here for questions time and again - but its an Ubuntu question...
[20:09] <iUnify> No one in Windows will know how to install from Linux
[20:09] <Rory> !windows | iUnify no it isn't
[20:09] <ikonia> it's not an ubuntu question, it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:09] <Rory> iUnify: You are having a problem booting from the Windows DVD
[20:09] <Rory> ikonia: How is that an Ubuntu support issue?
[20:09] <Rory> ikonia: Hey you stole my i[tab]
[20:09] <ikonia> it's not, as I've just said
[20:09] <iUnify> Appoligies guys, just figured cause its not a question using win, i have unbuntu, and can't figure out what to do ON ubuntu
[20:09] <ikonia> iUnify: you do nothing on ubuntu
[20:10] <iUnify> Yes, I set boot priority for dvd and nothing happened, can't run .exe
[20:10] <ikonia> iUnify: you don't install windows from within ubuntu
[20:10] <Rory> iUnify: You don't install Windows within Ubuntu. It's irrelavnt to Ubuntu or any other OS - you boot from the DVD to install it
[20:10] <Rory> iUnify: Probably a bad DVD burn
[20:10] <iUnify> OK, so essentially it should have boot from the dvd
[20:10] <iUnify> Its a legit copy
[20:11] <iUnify> I don't want to take space here fellas, sorry - I appreciate the info very much though, for real. THANKS!  Now... time to figure this bs out. lol
[20:11] <duxb> iUnify: call microsoft support, you paid for it, probably
[20:11] <iUnify> From a pawn shop
[20:11] <Rory> iUnify: LOL
[20:11] <Rory> Literally
[20:11] <iUnify> lol.  a friends tho, I can return if its beat.
[20:12] <superjoe> okay, now I'm getting /casper/vmlinuz.efi: read error @ 5357856
[20:16] <jdenning> Can anyone provide me a pointer as to whom I should submit a patch for an init script?  I have a small patch to the /etc/init.d/freeradius script, but I'm not sure if that should be submitted to the Ubuntu (or Debian??) package maintainer, or the Freeradius project?  Any ideas?
[20:17] <ikonia> jdenning: init scripts are not in /etc/init.d any more
[20:18] <jdenning> ikonia: I was patching against 12.04, I realize this has changed for more recent releases, but the patch is also applicable to upstart based init
[20:18] <ikonia> 12.04 should be using upstart
[20:18] <jdenning> The question remains though - who should patches of that sort go to?
[20:19] <ikonia> it needs to be a valid question, you're patching something that doesn't exist/shouldn't exist on ubuntu
[20:19] <jdenning> ikonia: The file in 12.04 is /etc/init.d/freeradius - this is installed by the package 'freeradius'.
[20:20] <jdenning> ikonia: <Sigh>  I hope you realize that this sort of "Why do you want to know?" response to straight-forward questions in the ubuntu community is kind of a running-joke among certain sysadmins I know (Redhat guys)
[20:20] <jdenning> I've never submitted a patch to an OSS project before - just trying to figure out if ubuntu maintainers would be interested or not.  I'm perfectly happy to just use it myself if no one cares.
[20:20] <ikonia> jdenning: no-one asked why you wanted to know, I correctly explained that the init script should be upstart
[20:21] <ikonia> jdenning: and seeing as I am a "redhat" guy, pointing at me and saying "you ubuntu guy is why redhat guys laugh" is stupid, more and a pointless ocmment
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> jdenning, every group has a hierarchy and ins and out others, your argument/sigh is a childish response.
[20:22] <jdenning> ikonia: My question was "who should I talk to about submitting this patch"  12.04 LTS, is still supported, correct?
[20:22] <blotek> ikonia:  actually it makes sense
[20:22] <ikonia> jdenning: yes, and I stated that you maybe looking at it wrong as the file you want to patch should not be in place in ubuntu
[20:22] <jdenning> wilee-nilee: Not trying to be childish, just pointing out a criticism about the ubuntu community
[20:22] <ikonia> jdenning: so it's worth checking you are doing the right thing first,
[20:22] <jdenning> ikonia: I installed the 'freeradius' package straight from the repo, that's where the package put the file.
[20:23] <ikonia> jdenning: right - so which repo would be a good start
[20:23] <blotek> ikonia:  he does
[20:23] <jdenning> 12.04 stable
[20:23] <ikonia> jdenning: that will give you an idea of where it's maintained or or taken from
[20:23] <ikonia> jdenning: 12.04 stable is not a repo
[20:23] <ikonia> jdenning: that's a release
[20:23] <jdenning> ok, one sec.
[20:23] <ikonia> blotek: he does what, you'll get better responses if you actually try to talk in a sentence rather than throwing one word comments at me
[20:24] <jdenning> "precise main" I should have said
[20:24] <ikonia> jdenning: what's the package name ?
[20:24] <jdenning> freeradius
[20:24] <ikonia> (as in the actual package)
[20:24] <ikonia> !info freeradius
[20:24] <ikonia> ok, so it's coming from main, so it's taken from debian, so depending on how you want to approach this the logical approach would be to submit the bug to the problem eg: debian and link it to ubuntu
[20:25] <jared_> Im Hared
[20:25] <abradley> Is there a way to setup ubuntu to replicate (source) or duplice (destination) files in real-time?
[20:25] <jared_> Sorry Im Jared, I Can Help With Linux Problems!
[20:25] <abradley> ---to another ubuntu box on lan
[20:25] <Guest31261> NickServ
[20:26] <jdenning> ikonia: Thanks - that's all I was trying to ascertain.
[20:26] <ikonia> jdenning: as that file should not be there though - you may want to think about how you approach it
[20:26] <Guest31261> Can someone help me be able to share files between linux and mac over LAN with no software needed to be downloaded?
[20:27] <jdenning> ikonia: I'm not looking at taking over maintainership of the package - I just had to fix something, and thought it might be useful to the community.
[20:27] <Guest31261> Can someone help me be able to share files between linux and mac over LAN with no software needed to be downloaded?
[20:27] <faugusztin> Guest31261: OS X, open Terminal, scp command
[20:27] <ikonia> jdenning: I didn't say take over mainteance, I said think about how you approach it as that file should not exist
[20:27] <faugusztin> same on Linux
[20:27] <jdenning> I'm pretty far from a newb, but I've never contributed a patch to a pacakge before.
[20:28] <Slart> Guest31261: is it a clean default install of both systems?
[20:28] <ikonia> jdenning: no-one said you where a "newb" you'll get better results if you read what you're being given rather than putting words in peoples mouths
[20:28] <loa> it is crazy how different all my old kernels work) using some can't even login, using one can't connect to local network)
[20:28] <Guest31261> how do i do the scp command
[20:28] <loa> it is like a magic
[20:28] <funky> hello
[20:28] <ikonia> loa: that has nothing to do with kernels
[20:28] <jdenning> ikonia: Well, I don't get ==
[20:28] <faugusztin> Guest31261: http://ged.msu.edu/angus/tutorials/using-ssh-scp-terminal-macosx.html
[20:28] <loa> ikonia, i meen old kernels from ubuntu
[20:28] <Guest31261> k thanks
[20:28] <funky> when I create mx record to mail.domain.com do I also create A record to point mail.domain.com to server IP?
[20:29] <jdenning> ikonia: Don't get what you are saying I should do about the freeradius script being installed in "the wrong spot"
[20:29] <ikonia> loa: still has nothing to do with it
[20:29] <loa> ikonia, what you meen nothing to do with it?
[20:29] <funky> any ideas?
[20:29] <jdenning> ikonia: 12.04 has a *lot* of files in /etc/init.d
[20:29] <Gregor_> Hello, i got a mini itx server, and i want to replace the 0,5tb with a 2tb. Are 2tb widely supported, or should i take a 1TB?   Intel nm10 chipset, I found nothing in data sheets...
[20:29] <ikonia> jdenning: well, that file shouldn't exist, so why is the file there, is it meant to be using upstart, or not, is the bug that it's not linked to an upstart script, etc, as if you fix the "broken" file it may get undone if/when it's fixed properly
[20:30] <faugusztin> Gregor_: it will be fine, 2.2TB+ is a problem for some controllers, not for NM10
[20:30] <funky> hey faugusztin
[20:32] <jdenning> ikonia: Well, as I said, a lot of 12.04 *LTS* (as in, the only branch that is currently suitable for real server use) packages install files in /etc/init.d.  I assumed this patch would be useful to others in the community.  I will try to get in touch with the maintainer for Debian and see if they're interested.
[20:32] <ikonia> jdenning: have you actually looked at the files in /etc/init.d ?
[20:33] <jdenning> ikonia: Yes, I'm looking at them now - want a list?
[20:33] <jdenning> (It's also where the ssh init script is installed BTW)
[20:33] <ikonia> jdenning: no, I mean have you actually looked at the init script you're considering patching,
[20:33] <ikonia> jdenning: as a lot of them are not scripts any more
[20:33] <jdenning> ikonia: I've already patched it
[20:33] <fhf> Hi guys I wanted to try out XRDP and installed it in my Ubuntu 12.04 machine. But now when I login the screen is blank (shows only wallpaper) I already removed xrdp package but I cannot access my desktop fine. How can I restore normal Unity Desktop?
[20:34] <jdenning> ikonia: It works great in my usage - it's nothing super fancy, just adds a 'status' output
[20:34] <jdenning> (which is necessary for certain CM frameworks)
[20:35] <hayri> hi i installed ubuntu 12.04 and windows7, but now grub does not detect windows when i type sudo update-grub although sudo os-prober detects windows. how can I add windows to my grub?
[20:35] <jdenning> ikonia: Out of curiosity - did you really think I was asking about submitting a patch for a script I had not even looked at?
[20:35] <joichiro> #d
[20:36] <ShadeS> hey guys, if i'm running a tail-f on a debug file, the screen will eventually go dim. How do I fix this?
[20:36] <ikonia> jdenning: possibly yes, checked it on debian and assumed it was the same in ubuntu etc,
[20:36] <funky> 10 mail.roldax.com {No A Record} 10 min Blacklist Check      SMTP Test what does it mean?
[20:36] <funky> no a record
[20:38] <Pici> funky: mail.roldax.com doesn't have an A record.  The domain name doesn't point anywhere.
[20:38] <jdenning> ikonia: I *did* specify repeatedly this was on ubuntu 12.04..but whatever..
[20:39] <funky> Pici got it
[20:39] <badomun_> win show1
[20:40] <frustro> hi 13.04, trying DVD playback, but medibuntu repo is down.
[20:41] <frustro> as is gone.
[20:41] <ikonia> jdenning: I'm not sure why you are tyring to "win" here - you came in asking for help and have been defensive ever since, submit your patch or not, to who ever you want, I don't care I just tried ot advise you some things to be aware of
[20:41] <frustro> so the .sh file gets a 404. when trying to wget it.
[20:42] <jhutchins> frustro: Standard mplayer should work.
[20:42] <jdenning> ikonia: I'm not trying to win, I'm hoping you will realize how much hostility you are showing to someone who came in just asking "who should I talk to about submitting this patch that I think might be useful to people"
[20:42] <jdenning> ikonia: Thanks for the help anyways
[20:42] <ikonia> jdenning: offering advise and making sure they have everything in order is not "hostile"
[20:43] <OerHeks> frustro, use restricted extraś > sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  # and follow the guide > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[20:43] <frustro> OerHeks, Then open a terminal window and execute:
[20:43] <frustro> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[20:43] <jdenning> ikonia: As I said, thanks.
[20:43] <frustro> 404.
[20:44] <frustro> The Medibuntu Project has come to an end
[20:44] <frustro> The Medibuntu repository is unmaintained and offline.
[20:44] <OerHeks> frustro, you do not have that sh file, as medibuntu is down, as you stated
[20:45] <frustro> I do the the sh file silly.  what the sh file is trying to wget is no longer there.
[20:45] <frustro> the link you provided to follow no longer works.
[20:46] <OerHeks> frustro, maybe the sh file in medibuntu does not work, i am sure restricted extras does.
[20:47] <ShutemDown> sup
[20:48] <frustro> OerHeks, I have the restricted extras, but not the dvdread4css, which allows ubuntu to read dvd content.
[20:48] <frustro> wait...archive.org here I come!
[20:49] <OerHeks> dvdread4, not dvdread4css.
[21:02] <m_tadeu> hi...does ubuntu provide boost pre-compiled headers?
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> m_tadeu: You might be more detailed with that question.
[21:08] <m_tadeu> wilee-nilee: I'd like to know if ubuntu provides a package with pre-compiled headers for the boost libraries
[21:09] <vkr> hello
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> m_tadeu: I would not know, I was just prompting you for details, for the likely hood of help.
[21:12] <m_tadeu> wilee-nilee: thanx :) but  I can't think a way to detail that :) it's pretty straight forward
[21:13] <YokoBR_> hey guys, how do i install 64bit wine on ubuntu?
[21:13] <YokoBR_> apt-get install wine is installing the 32bit wineserver version
[21:14] <tgm4883> YokoBR_, do you really need the 64-bit version of wine?
[21:14] <YokoBR_> yep, tgm4883. The 32bit version doesn't work with pulseaudio as i can see.
[21:14] <tgm4883> YokoBR_, doesn't work with pulseaudio? odd
[21:15] <YokoBR_> tgm4883, at least there's no such option on winecfg... so i can't run anything
[21:16] <Marlenee> how can i connect to anthor ssh server using private key
[21:16] <tom____> Hello
[21:17] <njsg> Marlenee: you need to upload the public key to the server before connecting
[21:17] <njsg> Marlenee: if the server allows public key authentication, the client will try the private keys you have before going for the challenge-response authentication ("password")
[21:17] <njsg> Marlenee: there was even a one-liner for that, let me see if I can find it
[21:17] <ace_me> can I fix somehow the broken lines outputed by bash and a sh ? http://imagebin.org/273213
[21:18] <Marlenee> i sign up in VPS and they just give me private key in format .pem
[21:18] <Marlenee> i try to add this key in authorized_keys and its not work
[21:18] <njsg> on then you need to store the private key locally. that's awkward, I guess, I'd usually expect to have to generate the key pair locally, then upload the public part
[21:19] <njsg> Marlenee: if it's a private key, you are supposed to add it locally, not to authorized_keys
[21:19] <njsg> authorized_keys is for the public keys that can be used to log in
[21:19] <Marlenee> njsg : i cant log in ??
[21:19] <njsg> here I have .ssh/id_rsa, but I have no idea of how to add another key
[21:21] <YokoBR_> :(
[21:22] <njsg> Marlenee: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2419566/best-way-to-use-multiple-ssh-private-keys-on-one-client
[21:23] <njsg> Marlenee: so apparently you can use ssh -i path-to-key ...
[21:23] <njsg> Marlenee: but the key you have has .pem, so it's probably in PEM
[21:23] <YokoBR_> please, just need to install wine64 again :(
[21:24] <njsg> Marlenee: ssh-keygen can convert these, from the manpage seems to be something like "ssh-keygen -i -m PEM"
[21:24] <njsg> Marlenee: sorry if some of this gets off, I'm mostly reading it, but I didn't actually test it
[21:25] <njsg> Marlenee: oh, it should be "ssh-keygen -i -m PEM -f path-to-key", I suppose it will *output* the result, but dunno
[21:27] <jamescarr> hey guys, started getting some issues today
[21:27] <jamescarr> Failed to fetch http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/lxc/liblxc0_0.9.0-0ubuntu3.4_amd64.deb  403  Forbidden
[21:27] <jamescarr> started happening in the last half hour
[21:27] <jamescarr> what gives!?
[21:27] <Marlenee> njsg : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6215614/
[21:28] <tgm4883> jamescarr, that sounds like an amazon question
[21:29] <jamescarr> tgm4883: eh?
[21:29] <tgm4883> oh wait, i just glanced at it
[21:30] <tgm4883> Is that in  your sources.list?
[21:30] <njsg> Marlenee: yes, that will happen, private keys need to be unreadable by others (ssh is just trying to avoid potentially dangerous scenarios), just do "chmod og-rwx MyKeyPair.pem". Also, it seems you're still using the pem file, did you pass it through ssh-keygen?
[21:32] <jamescarr> tgm4883: Im using an official ubuntu ami
[21:33] <dtcrshr> Marlenee: regata é voce?
[21:33] <tgm4883> jamescarr, I'd ask over in #ubuntu-server
[21:33] <jamescarr> thx
[21:35] <arnau_> Hi everyone! I need some help, I'm almost there. I have a dual boot win/linuxmint and on windows my NIC speed is 100Mb/s. On linux the NIC speed is set to 10Mb/s. When I try to change it with command "sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full" , it seems to change the NIC's settings, but the wired connection goes down. Does anyone know what should I do?
[21:36] <tgm4883> !mint | arnau_
[21:37] <arnau_> they sent me here XD
[21:37] <arnau_> I was hoping that you could help me
[21:37] <tgm4883> arnau_, perhaps you should tell them you are using Linux Mint
[21:37] <njsg> arnau_: it's not ubuntu, but a general tip is really: check if it uses the right driver, google for known issues with that card on linux
[21:37] <arnau_> yes they know
[21:38] <arnau_> well thanks anyway, have fun! =)
[21:38] <LjL> arnau_: wait, who sent you herre
[21:38] <arnau_> "<morten77> arnau: you can ask in #ubuntu too if you want, I mean it is same thing as mint on that sort of things I think"
[21:39] <tony_stark_markV> arnau_:
[21:39] <Marlenee> !paste
[21:39] <tony_stark_markV> arnau_: Its all debian based
[21:39] <k1l_> well, it says its an "own OS" on their page. so they take support for it. thats it
[21:39] <dtcrshr> arnau_: since you already lost the social engeneering telling you are on mint, better bail now :D
[21:39] <fishcooker> fishcoo
[21:39] <dtcrshr> people on spotchat are friendly as well
[21:40] <njsg> arnau_: if it works on windows, this is most likely a driver issue, investigate that.
[21:41] <arnau_> I have the right driver. I saw a picture of the connection info from an italian guy: same driver, same everything, except he has "Speed: 100Mb/s" and I have "Speed: 10Mb/s"
[21:41] <arnau_> It's driving me nuts XD
[21:41] <myep> I am having an issue where my screen freezes on window switch, no dmesg errors, no Xorg errors, no i915_error_state, sound still plays, mouse moves, clock and graphics dont update, need to do a rightAlt+SysRq+k to boot to login screen
[21:41] <arnau_> now I was answering to you njsg
[21:42] <Nosophorus> what's the casual chat for ubuntu users?
[21:42] <njsg> arnau_: same kernel version?
[21:42] <Nosophorus> i mean to talk about off-topic issues
[21:42] <k1l_> !ot | Nosophorus
[21:42] <arnau_> Don't know njsg
[21:42] <Nosophorus> k1l_: thanks!
[21:43] <krull> arnau_: use uname -r to get kernal version
[21:43] <arnau_> thanks krull. It says "3.5.0-17-generic"
[21:44] <krull> arnau_: why are you not up to 3.2.0-53-generic?
[21:44] <njsg> arnau_: check that, compare it
[21:44] <mojtaba> Is it possible to generate an audio file from a pdf or other text like files?
[21:44] <arnau_> Because I'm a newbie krull, that's why XD
[21:44] <k1l_> krull: arnau_ njsg because its mint.
[21:44] <krull> arnau_: we all started as newbies at one time
[21:44] <k1l_> krull: njsg arnau_ and that for they got a own support channel
[21:45] <tgm4883> isn't 3.5 > 3.2?
[21:45] <njsg> arnau_: you want to compare if the kernel version is the same, if they are then I guess the kernel log is the last resort
[21:45] <k1l_> so if you guys want to solve the int issues please got to the mint channels. thanks
[21:45] <njsg> and kernels can still have disto-specific patches, different configs...
[21:45] <arnau_> oh that's right tgm4883 XD
[21:46] <arnau_> k1l_: sorry, I couldn't find any help there
[21:46] <k1l_> arnau_: then try the mint forums
[21:46] <arnau_> yep, will do
[21:47] <myep> I am having an issue where my screen freezes on window switch, no dmesg errors, no Xorg errors, no i915_error_state, sound still plays, mouse moves, clock and graphics dont update, need to do a rightAlt+SysRq+k to boot to login screen, I can provide any other specifics as needed, ubuntu 12.04LTS, happened since day0
[21:48] <arnau_> oh, oh! Last question. What does it mean to load a module for a driver?
[21:48] <Enekoos> hello, I have some litle problem, I search some time for it in internet but not find answer: I use a tablet digital for drawing and 2 monitors, my problem is in te tablet resolution for print is like a 2 monitors, wen drawing a circle screen drawing a elipse ([21:48] <wilee-nilee> myep: same thing with a live boot?
[21:49] <njsg> arnau_: it means loading the kernel module. nowadays, linux will usually be configured to load modules automatically, but you can still use modprobe manually (and in some cases you *need* to, for some reason)
[21:49] <myep> i have not tried a live boot, you suggest I try an ubuntu 12.04 Live session?
[21:49] <jhutchins> Enekoos: That probably depends on what exact make & model tablet it is.
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> myep: yes if it works, you can assume driver or install problems at the least, another user is another option.
[21:50] <Enekoos> is a trust tablet
[21:51] <Enekoos> but linux not have a litle config file?
[21:51] <myep> @wilee-nilee: isnt it odd that I have no error information anywhere? I suspect I will be able to reproduce a crash on a Live CD, but i can try it
[21:51] <Enekoos> waltop is very limited
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> myep: can we assume your computer is up for this install and desktop hardware wise?
[21:53] <myep> wilee-nilee: are you asking if my hardware is modern enough?
[21:54] <vexati0n> hi. In Ubuntu 13.04, x64, where are the options for RECEIVING files via bluetooth? I can send them just fine, but how do I receive them?
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> myep: It may as simple as a bad install, and yes is the hadware/ram up for the use.
[21:55] <myep> wilee-nilee: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2200, Mem:       3203920, Swap:      8000508, clean install, minimal packages added, second rig this has happened on
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> myep: your description is missing some pertinent info that you would be asked, for instance hardware and desktop used and any others tried.
[21:55] <SonikkuAmerica> vexati0n: Switch Bluetooth on, make sure you're visible.
[21:56] <myep> wilee-nilee: i have tried all desktops, it is present with all of them
[21:58] <myep> wilee-nilee: can you think of a way to even identify the offending process? I cannot even determine that, top looks fine
[21:59] <mozg_> hello guys
[21:59] <mozg_>  is anyone running 3.11 ubuntu soucy kernel?
[21:59] <mozg_>  I've just installed it and it seems that the following library /lib/modules/3.11.0-12-generic/kernel/drivers/infiniband/core/ib_umad.ko is a 32bit one even though my os and my kernel is 64bit
[21:59] <mozg_> could someone please verify that with ldd / file?
[21:59] <OerHeks> !saucy | mozg_
[22:00] <myep> mozg_:why not roll back to a more stable kernel?
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> myep: Is this the only freeze up instance?
[22:00] <mozg_> myep, I need to test something
[22:00] <mozg_> as 3.8 seems to cause me issues
[22:00] <mtong> Can anyone help a noob with an xrdp problem?
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> !help
[22:01] <mozg_> is anyone running  3.11 kernel from the official repo?
[22:01] <myep> wilee-nilee: no it happens intermitantly on multi window switch, i can get it to occur in about 5 min, but under normal operation it happens a few times a day
[22:01] <gassho> how do you get the name of a usb wifi
[22:01] <gassho> plugged in to the computerer
[22:01] <SonikkuAmerica> gassho: lsusb
[22:02] <njsg> gassho: what name?
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> myep: I would do a memory check from the live cd, might be bad ram, or other hardware, have you confirmed this computer should just run ubuntu?
[22:03] <mtong> When I connect to my Ubuntu box using remote desktop and then try to connect it to a VPN I get "Not Authorized to control networking" when I do this on the machine directly it works. Im using the same user to log in, in  both instances.
[22:03] <gassho> Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[22:03] <mtong> !help
[22:03] <mtong> !patience
[22:04] <myep> wilee-nilee: me and our infastructure guy have run multiple full passes on bad blocks, rand days of memtest, and it was worked on all ubuntus until 12.04LTS
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> myep: askubuntu might be a place to see if others have this pro lem with the same setup
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> myep: bad blocks, you have any on the hd?
[22:05] <myep> wilee-nilee: no problems of any kind on the hardware
[22:05] <fishcooker> what's should i do when my serial port don't work well .. because i don't get the output here is my log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6214857/
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> myep: how much ram?
[22:06] <fishcooker> from ttyS0-3 is not working
[22:06] <myep> wilee-nilee: 3GB :( thats all 3 slots (yes i have 3, strange)
[22:07] <fishcooker> i think that's driver problem
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> myep: I would use htop to see whats running, I use a conky to watch my ram and other stuff, you might have something running the ram high, I also change the swappiness,  but I have a ssd
[22:09] <njsg> fishcooker: did you enable the serial line discipline?
[22:09] <njsg> fishcooker: dunno if it comes as a module in the ubuntu kernel, but in order to just cat to/from a serial port you need that
[22:09] <mojtaba> Is it possible to generate an audio file from a .pdf or other text like files?
[22:09] <myep> wilee-nilee: i have 8GB of swap, do you think that is incorrect?
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> myep: I just wonder if it is swapping.
[22:10] <njsg> mojtaba: what kind of audio file?
[22:10] <mojtaba> njsg: something like mp3
[22:10] <mojtaba> I have some books and I would like to listen to them while I am driving in my car.
[22:10] <njsg> mojtaba: but what would the file contain?
[22:10] <myep> wilee: wouldnt the screen eventually recover if it was swapping?  Ive let it sit for like 1hr and it never recovers
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> myep: not sure what you mean by incorrect, this a 64bit?
[22:11] <myep> wilee: plus i can switch to tty1, and the machine is fast and responsive for console tasks
[22:11] <mojtaba> njsg: Input file is text, pdf file, and the output is audio file.
[22:11] <myep> wilee: yes im running 64bit
[22:11] <njsg> mojtaba: but text-to-speech?
[22:11] <mojtaba> njsg: something like that.
[22:11] <njsg> mojtaba: as in, an audio file where the text is read aloud?
[22:12] <njsg> mojtaba: look into festival, a text-to-speech engine
[22:12] <njsg> mojtaba: dunno if they have a specific tool to write to an audio file, but I suppose they'd include that
[22:12] <njsg> pdftotext to generate plain text from the text layer of a pdf or tesseract to do good OCR out of images
[22:13] <mojtaba> njsg: Is there any tool to convert that text file via cmd?
[22:13] <gartral> mojtaba: festival does include the ability to pipe through sox for generating a TTS file in almost any imaginable audio format
[22:14] <mojtaba> gartral: what is festival?
[22:14] <njsg> mojtaba: a text-to-speech engine
[22:14] <gartral> mojtaba: festival is a TTS engine, usually it just reads files
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> myep: it would recover if whatever is causing it to swap reduced, maybe that is not happening, at this point we are guessing with dichotomies, check what is running with htop in general, and monitor the ram use and swap, would be a good start.
[22:14] <njsg> mojtaba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festival_tts
[22:15] <gartral> mojtaba: you may want to look at the way the Rockbox guys use it to generate wavs out of text strings..
[22:15] <mojtaba> njsg, gartral: thanks
[22:15] <myep> wilee: ok ill fire up the live cd, is there any other data you can think of, that I would want to capture in this error state?
[22:15] <mojtaba> gartral: Do you have any link?
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> myep: I rarely use error info, so not realy
[22:16] <fishcooker> how to enable serial line njsg.. please  give me direction
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> an area I k ow
[22:16] <Tex_Nick> ubuntu 13.04 : i just acquired a used 1 TB HDD with a few bad sectors ... what's my best bet to map those sectors out ... not a data critical disk & prefer to do it in ubuntu (not windows) ... would SMART automatically do that for me or fdisk, parted, complete format ?
[22:16] <fishcooker> njsg how to enable
[22:17] <myep> wilee: ok thanks ill do some more investigation
[22:17] <gartral> mojtaba: you'll have to dig through http://www.rockbox.org
[22:17] <Tex_Nick> also SMART shows disk to be OK
[22:17] <muhammad-yasin_> hallow
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> myep: my computers have generally worked out of the box for the last 7 years, so I have  not used errors much is all.
[22:17] <muhammad-yasin_> iam from indonesia
[22:18] <fishcooker> hello there
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick:  the way ive done it in the past (hard core) was to figure out where the bad spots were at. and then partion the disk so the bad area + a lot to either side. was in a partion i never used. ;)
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> Smart results can be  missleading. from the articals ive read in teh past.
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> Indonesia-Yasin: Do you need help, this is support.
[22:18] <Indonesia-Yasin> you can help me?
[22:18] <gartral> Dr_Willis: you know you *could* have manually marked that region as bad >.>
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> !details | Indonesia-Yasin
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> gartral:  i dident trust the disk at all. it had a lot of bad stuff at the end. so i chopped it all off.
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> Indonesia-Yasin: state the issues to the channel.
[22:19] <Indonesia-Yasin> how?
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> in case the bad stuff spreead.
[22:19] <Tylertwo> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 using LXDE. Any idea how to prevent Mono from starting automatically when my computer boots?
[22:19] <Indonesia-Yasin> iam on ubuntu 13.04 desktop
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> Indonesia-Yasin: with your keyboard.
[22:20] <gartral> Dr_Willis: sounds like a platter crack was developing, I hate when that happens..
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> lol
[22:20] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : i like that thought, now what's the best utility for finding the exact sectors ? (15 bad sectors)
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> Tex_Nick:  i think badblocks perhaps.. been ages since ive last done it.
[22:21] <fishcooker> i've used minicom / picocom to check my serial port on ttyS0-3 but there is no output
[22:21] <YokoBR> @austin987, i think i'll do a fresh install of ubuntu... now i'm getting wine: failed to initialize: /usr/local/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory , after uninstalling wine
[22:21] <YokoBR> to reinstall it
[22:21] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : thanks my friend ... you've pointed me in a good direction ... i'll head that way ;-)
[22:21] <SonikkuAmerica> !isitout
[22:22] <fishcooker> how to check that driver for serial installed properly
[22:22] <fishcooker> ?
[22:22] <YokoBR> @austin987, got worse: wine: failed to initialize: /usr/local/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> fishcooker:  i recall if you dont have teh  port/bits/rate/xon/xoff settings just right - you wont see anything
[22:23] <YokoBR> @austin987, i've uninstalled, removed, purged and deleted everything related to wine
[22:23] <YokoBR> to reinstall
[22:23] <njsg> fishcooker: if it's available as a module, "modprobe serport" as root should load it
[22:23] <YokoBR> but when i try to install from ppa, it only downloads 21 kb, and gives that error
[22:23] <fishcooker> but i've have tried the same way on 12.04 yesterday now im on 10.04
[22:23] <YokoBR> wine: failed to initialize: /usr/local/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:24] <Yowl> Is there a difference between disabling swap and mounting it as a ram disk?
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  it dosent make much sence to put swap on a ram disk.
[22:26] <vee_> hey guys, my wifi doesn't seem to be working. i checked out ifconfig, and phy0 doesn't seem to be there. i tried to do ifconfig phy0, and it says there is no such device. i checked rfkill and it says phy0 is not soft blocked. ideas? its a ath9k wifi card
[22:26] <njsg> vee_: ifconfig -a
[22:26] <mtong> Q: When I connect to my Ubuntu box using remote desktop and then try to connect it to a VPN I get "Not Authorized to control networking" when I do this on the machine directly it works. Im using the same user to log in, in  both instances.
[22:26] <njsg> vee_: ifconfig only shows devices that are up
[22:26] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: So it would be the same thing?
[22:27] <n-iCe> hi
[22:27] <CarlFK> what is the nifty command that will dump the metadata from an image file?
[22:27] <vee_> oh i see....wlan0 shows up
[22:27] <njsg> vee_: with wifi my first suspect would be firmware, check the kernel log (dmesg) for possible firmware-related errors
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  it would not be the same thing. why would you think that
[22:27] <njsg> CarlFK: EXIF? if so exiftool
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  if you dont want to use swap - disable it.
[22:27] <njsg> CarlFK: but it depends on the image format and metadata format
[22:27] <vee_> thats strange, njsg, wpagui doesn't seem to find my adapter
[22:27] <CarlFK> njsg sounds like it - thanks
[22:28] <njsg> vee_: check lspci -k to see if it has a kernel module loaded for it and check dmesg for errors. which card is it?
[22:28] <chaotix> hey guys...  in what folder can i find the help files used in yelp?
[22:28] <njsg> oh ath9k. you may need external firmware, yeah
[22:28] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Because., swap is ram on drive, and ram drive is ram used as a hard drive, so wouldn't it being going full circle, putting ram work on ram?
[22:28] <vee_> njsg: what external firmware? i've installed wireless-tools
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> Yowl: thats not technically true. id go read up on the various swap howtos and guides and docs.
[22:29] <chaotix> doc w, do you know?
[22:29] <njsg> vee_: dunno what the package name is in ubuntu, but linux wireless drivers frequently need external firmware that is not included due to license issues
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> chaotix:  /usr/share/docs or  the man page dirs.. i cant even recall what yelp is
[22:31] <vee_> njsg: was reading some stuff on debian and it says it should be fine...hm ill look into it
[22:31] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: In the end though, swap on ram drive would just be a less efficient way of disabling swap?
[22:32] <njsg> debian, fine without external firmware packages? mr "DFSG" debian...
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  more overhead - so its pointless. Unless you had one of those weird ram-card-drive things that  came out like 10 yrs ago. ;)
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> and its not the same as disabling swap
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> I seem to recall benchmarks a few years back where  having a little swap helped the system  even with a lot of ram. but this was 5+ yrs ago. so theres been a lot of kernel work since then
[22:33] <Yowl>  Dr_Willis If one has enough ram, there is no need for swap, right?
[22:33] <njsg> Yowl: no, it will be an effective way of increasing thrashing. if you want to disable on-disk swap, disable swap completely
[22:33] <gartral> Dr_Willis: it's still the case, trust me
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  i have a 8gb system with no swap - becaue i frogot to partion for it. but  these days if you want to use Hibernate/suspend you DO want swap = ram+a bit more
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> gartral:  ;) i cant even recall how they benchmarked it.
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[22:34] <gartral> Yowl: wrong, you'll need swap if you want hibernation or do a LOT of compilation work
[22:34] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Can I set swap to be disabled except for hibernation?
[22:34] <njsg> gartral: you don't need swap to hibernate
[22:34] <njsg> you can hibernate to files, IIRC
[22:35] <Yowl> mjsg or in other words, it makes its own swap if swap is disabled?
[22:35] <Yowl> for hibernation
[22:35] <gartral> njsg: swap is any file or partition that acts as a hdd buffer for ram, so, yes, you do need swap
[22:37] <Yowl> gartral: That is what swap is, but if you have enough ram then you dont need the buffer, presumably
[22:38] <skinux> Do all screenlets have to be written in Python?
[22:38] <njsg> Yowl: I think gartral just wanted to exercise some pedantry on how the hibernation file is used to store memory contents
[22:38] <Yowl> Ok so if I disable swap, will hibernation just make its own space and still do fine?
[22:39] <OerHeks> Yowl, no.
[22:39] <njsg> Yowl: you probably need to provide explicit settings for hibernation and resume
[22:39] <Yowl> OerHeks: Then is there a way to disable swap except for hibernation?
[22:39] <Yowl> njsg So there is?
[22:39] <njsg> Yowl: don't enable it, I guess you can remove the swap partition from fstab
[22:39] <njsg> depends on how ubuntu finds swap partitions to enable, though
[22:40] <ajith_kanu> had a windows OS.while installing ubuntu to dual boot accidently deleted  windows.How to recover important files that was on windows? please
[22:40] <njsg> ajith_kanu: how did you "delete windows"?
[22:40] <OerHeks> Yowl, maybe you can play around with swapiness, set to 0  > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[22:41] <qin> Yowl: man swapoff; man pm-action
[22:41] <OerHeks> qin +1
[22:41] <ajith_kanu> njsg:It was my friends problem.I think heautomatically installed ubuntu on the entire disk
[22:41] <qin> Yowl: Why 2-3 gig of swap does bother you anyway?
[22:42] <elGr33k0> Hello
[22:43] <Enekoos> hello, any know how to change resolution for digitizing tablet ?
[22:43] <michael_> #tm129
[22:43] <Yowl> qin swap will slow my system down compared to pure ram
[22:44] <qin> Yowl: huh?
[22:44] <elGr33k0> @Enekoos what do you mean digitizing tablet?
[22:44] <qin> Yowl: Headbutt person who told you this
[22:44] <Yowl> qin: Hard drives are slower then Ram- Not just a urban legend
[22:45] <njsg> Yowl: if your system slows down because of swap, why do you think disabling it will do any better?
[22:45] <Yowl> forces the system to use ram
[22:45] <njsg> why do you think the system is using swap in the first place?
[22:45] <njsg> Yowl: if you think *preemptive* swapping is happening a lot, tune swappiness
[22:45] <ricardobarbosams> anyone deploy proxy-arp in ubuntu?
[22:45] <njsg> but if the system is using swap because it's out of ram, disabling swap won't do any good
[22:45] <ricardobarbosams> 13.04
[22:45] <njsg> buy more ram™
[22:46] <Yowl> njsg I know that
[22:47] <elGr33k0> Yowl you can always check what other processes are running
[22:47] <elGr33k0> and close them
[22:47] <qin> Yowl: How much RAM do you have? And how much swap do you use on day to day basis? You can also suspend with write to RAM, unlike hibernate...
[22:48] <Enekoos> elGr33k0:  https://www.google.es/search?q=digitizing+tablet&safe=off&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Kt1VUvXuFIaU0AXhv4HgBQ&ved=0CEUQsAQ&biw=1231&bih=912&dpr=1
[22:49] <Yowl> Well I do have a issue where suspend won't wake up sometimes, forcing me to do a hard reset
[22:49] <Yowl> qin: How do I choose to suspend to ram?
[22:51] <qin> Yowl: pm-suspend
[22:51] <Yowl> qin: pm?
[22:51] <loa> how i can set affinity on permanent mode for application?
[22:51] <loa> for example dota 2
[22:52] <qin> Yowl: power manager
[22:52] <loa> running from steam
[22:53] <Yowl> qin: Run that as a terminal command?
[22:53] <qin> loa: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html
[22:54] <qin> Yowl: sure, yet you just said that there is some bug with your suspend
[22:54] <loa> qin, i understand how set affinity, i can't uderstand how i can set affinity for dota running from steam
[22:55] <qin> loa: you need id of process, from htop i.e.
[22:55] <loa> qin, i want to do this automatically
[22:56] <loa> i thought about script for crontab
[22:56] <qin> loa: pgrep may help
[22:56] <loa> it will try to find dota process and set affinity
[22:58] <Yowl> qin: Sometimes I have wordpad files with unsaved content when my PC goes into suspension, could that be why I can't wake it up? And sometimes when I can't wake it up, it doesn't seem like its fully suspended in the first place since the power button isnt flashing and the fans are running, but I still can't get anything to appear on the screen
[22:58] <daniel1> I'm trying to get my bcm4311 wireless chipset to work in an hp pavillion laptop.. but apt-get freezes on the message "DKMS: install completed" for both wl and b43.. any help?
[22:59] <daniel1> in the short-term, that also means I'm stuck with "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg)" errors with apt-get..
[23:00] <Yowl> OerHeks: Sometimes I have wordpad files with unsaved content when my PC goes into suspension, could that be why I can't wake it up? And sometimes when I can't wake it up, it doesn't seem like its fully suspended in the first place since the power button isnt flashing and the fans are running, but I still can't get anything to appear on the screen
[23:00] <daniel1> anyone?
[23:01] <msx> daniel1: just ask, if anoyane can answer your enquiere, will do
[23:02] <daniel1> I'm trying to get my bcm4311 wireless chipset to work in an hp pavillion laptop.. but apt-get freezes on the message "DKMS: install completed" for both wl and b43.. any help?
[23:02] <daniel1> in the short-term, that also means I'm stuck with "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg)" errors with apt-get..
[23:02] <msx> *enquirie*enquiry
[23:03] <Moseco> I have ubuntu 12.04 installed on a drive and windows 8.1 installed on a separate drive (installed ubuntu then windows 8 later). What is the best way to set up GRUB to dualboot?
[23:03] <Ben64> !grub | Moseco
[23:03] <msx> daniel1: ok, this /var/lib/dpkg is a temp file set by dpkg to tell the system that a package management action is ongoing, that's why you receive the lock
[23:04] <mtong> Q: When I connect to my Ubuntu box using remote desktop and then try to connect it to a VPN I get "Not Authorized to control networking" when I do this on the machine directly it works. Im using the same user to log in, in  both instances.
[23:04] <msx> daniel1: please open a console and do: $ ps aux | grep dpkg
[23:04] <Moseco> ubottu: Thank you
[23:04] <daniel1> thanks msx, I had to ctrl-c apt-get because it hung when installing wireless drivers.  so its ok to delete /var/lib/dpkg?
[23:05] <msx> daniel1: you can kill the process using the command: $ sudo kill -9 {number of dpkg process}
[23:05] <msx> daniel1: it isn't actually the best thing to do but yeah, this is GNU+Linux so it won't make any harm
[23:05] <daniel1> ok, it is a directory tho..
[23:06] <Ben64> yeah dont delete that directorty
[23:06] <msx> daniel1: what is really strange is the dpkg freeze when installing the wireless card module...
[23:06] <daniel1> would it not just be better to delete /var/lib/dpkg/lock?
[23:06] <Ben64> stop trying to delete stuff
[23:06] <msx> lol
[23:06] <qin> lol
[23:06] <Ben64> the problem that error message is saying is that something else is using apt
[23:07] <daniel1> hehehhe. yeah I'm old enough to be a responsible  sudo rm'er..
[23:07] <msx> daniel1: as a rule of dumb NEVER ever delete anything before being completely sure you won't miss that
[23:07] <Enekoos> ubuntu use Xorg.conf or other file? I search for file to configuration to digitalizer tablet
[23:07] <daniel1> msx: you just said it was fine to delete it :-P anyway I'm pretty sure there is nothing else using dpkg, and that I am the one who was responsible for control-c'ing apt-get, causing the lock to not be removed
[23:07] <qin> !xorg.conf
[23:08] <overlook> ..
[23:08] <Yowl> Sometimes I have wordpad files with unsaved content when my PC goes into suspension, could that be why I can't wake it up? And sometimes when I can't wake it up, it doesn't seem like its fully suspended in the first place since the power button isnt flashing and the fans are running, but I still can't get anything to appear on the screen
[23:08] <msx> daniel1: btw, the only thing i can think of is rebooting and then on a freshly booted system try to install the driver again
[23:08] <msx> daniel1: yes but i mean anything inside the directory, usually the lock file
[23:09] <bbtech> Is there a list somewhere of possible dot files that can go in the home directory?
[23:09] <daniel1> bbtech: anything can put a hidden (dot file as you call it) file or folder in the home directory
[23:09] <Enekoos> ok gin but no solve my problem :( where is the config?
[23:10] <bbtech> daniel1, yeah, I meant that would be used by a program.
[23:10] <Yowl> Is there a way to add suspend to ram in my system option?
[23:10] <bbtech> like, I noticed someone had an .aliases file and I then wondered if that was valid and what other files are valid
[23:11] <daniel1> bbtech: and? did the file not say what it was used for and why?
[23:11] <bbtech> daniel1, well, it had aliases in it...but that doesn't answer my question of what other files could I create?
[23:12] <bbtech> daniel1, for example, I've been creating a file for my aliases and using source to load them...didn't know about .aliases
[23:12] <bbtech> so how can I know about the other dot files that I can possibly use?
[23:13] <Sean121> Dot files can be created and used like regular files
[23:13] <bbtech> I'm wondering if any file in /etc can be replaced with a ~/.file
[23:14] <bbtech> Sean121, not what I'm asking. I'm wondering which dot files have a special purpose.
[23:15] <Tylertwo> bbtech, are you familiar with "ls -a"?
[23:15] <bbtech> Tylertwo, not all files are created by default
[23:16] <bbtech> Tylertwo, I currently don't have an .aliases file. Unless someone tells me that .aliases has a special purpose I might never know to create it.
[23:16] <Tylertwo> bbtech, gotcha.. i've never really thought along those lines tbh
[23:17] <daniel1> bbtech - presumably any hidden file has a special purpose, or else it owuldnt have been created in the first place… stricly speaking, users rarely have to create hidden files, programs mostly do that automaticly, unless a manual for a program states otherwise. but to the best of my knowledge, there is no repository for manually-created hidden files, nor could there be, since any software that someone writes could require a user to do that...
[23:18] <bbtech> daniel1, that does make sense. Doesn't make it easier for me to know about specific files though :-/
[23:18] <daniel1> heh...
[23:19] <jrib> bbtech: you learn about dotfiles by reading documentation
[23:19] <daniel1> bbtech: off the top of my head, the only example I can think of is ssh asking a user to move a newly-created private key for authentication into the .ssh directory… or .htaccess for configuring apache directives.. the uses are too varied and unique to catalog in one place :-)
[23:19] <bbtech> Is there even a way I can prove that the .aliases file would be used without trial and error? or maybe it is .alias?
[23:19] <jrib> bbtech: it's sourced in your ~/.bashrc
[23:20] <bbtech> jrib, what is sourced?
[23:20] <daniel1> bash configur settings, that's another I suppose..
[23:20] <jrib> bbtech: ~/.aliasrc
[23:20] <bbtech> jrib, oh, it's not in my .bashrc. Does that mean .aliases or .aliasrc wouldn't work?
[23:21] <jrib> bbtech: check your .bashrc.  ~/.aliasrc may just be something I created.  But there is some file sourced by default with "alias" in its name
[23:21] <skinux> This could be silly, but what 'hook' (if any) would be needed to run a script/app when screen lock is deactivated?
[23:21] <bbtech> jrib, that "default" thing is what I'm trying to figure out...just magically sourced?
[23:22] <jrib> bbtech: read your ~/.bashrc
[23:22] <bbtech> jrib, I have, alias* isn't in there
[23:22] <jrib> bbtech: then you aren't using the default .bashrc from /etc/skel/.bashrc in a standard ubuntu system
[23:22] <bbtech> jrib, my .bashrc is sourcing all files in my ~/dotfiles/source directory
[23:23] <Tylertwo> Why would you want an .aliasrc file?
[23:23] <bbtech> jrib, true, I'm on debian :-)
[23:23] <jrib> bbtech: that's something you setup; it's not standard
[23:23] <bbtech> jrib, correct
[23:23] <Ben64> bbtech: then why are you filling up #ubuntu? :|
[23:23] <bbtech> jrib, if I understand that means .aliases would not work for me?
[23:23] <Xabst> Hi, I upgraded my kernel to 3.11 and installed new ATI GFX drivers, and installed MATE desktop environment and now my X server gets seg fault. I'm on commandline irssi and I have no idea how to fix this :(
[23:23] <jrib> bbtech: this channel is for ubuntu support ;)   But just source whatever file you want in your .bashrc for your aliases.  It's purely an organizational preference to have aliases in a separate file instead of directly in ~/.bashrc
[23:23] <Enekoos> how can I see were is an usb element in a /dev/ items?
[23:24] <Ben64> Enekoos: huh?
[23:24] <Ben64> Xabst: mate is not supported here and is an evil zombie
[23:24] <Xabst> damn
[23:24] <Enekoos> I try configure a digitalizer tablet for usb
[23:24] <Xabst> but i uninstalled it already Ben64, still getting errors
[23:24] <Enekoos> and need were is in /dev/
[23:25] <deckard_> hello, are there any cool themed terminals i can DL?
[23:25] <Enekoos> her name in to /dev/ items
[23:25] <Ben64> Enekoos: not sure what you mean by that, but try dmesg and/or lsusb
[23:25] <Xabst> can you tell me how to downgrade my kernel back to 3.8?
[23:25] <daniel1> folks, I'm having a serious problem with apt-get hanging when I try to install broadcom wireless drivers. right now, I'm stuck in a loop where if I quit it, I have to run dpkg -c before I can do anything with apt, and then it just tries to install it again...
[23:25] <Enekoos> mm is good idea I go for searh in this thanks
[23:25] <bbtech> jrib, in debian the default .bashrc looks for ~/.bash_aliases
[23:25] <jrib> bbtech: in ubuntu too
[23:26] <SirFunk_> Is there a special channel for 13.10 talk? I seem to have  lost my notifications, they show up as ugly blue boxes now
[23:26] <jrib> SirFunk_: #ubuntu+1
[23:26] <bbtech> jrib, I like the idea of putting all of my .whatever files in ~/dotfiles/sources. I'm going to stick with that
[23:26] <bbtech> thanks for the help!
[23:26] <Ben64> bbtech: next time go to #debian
[23:26] <SirFunk_> jrib: thanks
[23:26] <bbtech> :-)
[23:27] <Ben64> Xabst: well i'm not sure what all you changed
[23:27] <Enekoos> input:          WALTOP     Graphics Tablet  as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.3/1-1.3.2/1-1.3.2:1.0/input/input14
[23:27] <Enekoos> :/
[23:28] <Xabst> Ben64: neither am I :( any idea how to install kernel 3.8 instead of this 3.11?
[23:28] <Xabst> i guess my only options are to revert my changes and I uninstalled the GFX drivers and the MATE desktop
[23:32] <Avi31> hya
[23:33] <Psil0Cybin> whats up man
[23:34] <Enekoos> Ben64: any other idea?
[23:35] <Enekoos> now tablet working but if I dont know her /dev/ I  can make .conf
[23:39] <r0000t> 0nyx?
[23:41] <Tylertwo> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 with LXDE and I noticed this process running: /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1. It appears to be for Gnome, not LXDE, so would it be ok to terminate it?
[23:42] <pentester> I just installed squid on a home server. I can see that the squid process is allocated more RAM as I browse. Will the pages remain cached if the server reboots?
[23:47] <skinux> Squid is an IDS for 'home users' isn't it?
[23:48] <xatr0z> skinux: more a caching proxy
[23:49] <xatr0z> not really useful at mosts homes i think
[23:49] <xatr0z> browsercaches work faster
[23:53] <rrm> can you guys help me disable the touchpad on my thinkpad but not the pointer?
[23:53] <jorb>  hi folks .. anyone know of a method to create a mock video device that is just a repeat of an X11
[23:53] <jorb> display? like to create a loop-back webcam of the desktop environment?
[23:53] <jorb> i'm looking at webcam studio .. looks a little sketchy
[23:54] <repudiate> How do I create a desktop shortcut for a program, say Chrome.
[23:55] <tree_> My sound keeps crapping out.
[23:55] <tree_> Boo!
[23:55] <xatr0z> repudiate: open the program, and drag the launchericon from the bar to the left onto the desktop
[23:57] <repudiate> xatr0z: Thanks.
[23:57] <rrm> can you guys help me disable the touchpad on my thinkpad but not the pointer?  anyone?
[23:57] <repudiate> xatr0z: I can't do that.
[23:58] <repudiate> xatr0z: Ubuntu doesn't let you drag icons from the launcher.
[23:58] <tree_> can anyone help me fix my sound
[23:58] <tree_> ?
[23:58] <tree_> Pretty please?
[23:58] <Tylertwo> rrm, first type "xinput" into a console
[23:58] <kingnick42> tree_, what is wrong with it?
[23:58] <xatr0z> repudiate: sorry its not from the bar, but from the dash
[23:59] <rrm> done
[23:59] <rrm> Tylertwo: done
[23:59] <tree_> I lose all sound after the computer wakes up from sleeping
[23:59] <repudiate> xatr0z: How do you drag it from there?
[23:59] <Tylertwo> rrm, One of the items listed should be touchpad, enter xinput set-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 0
[23:59] <Tylertwo> rrm, replacing "11" with the number of the touchpad
[23:59] <rrm> Tylertwo: 12 is on mine... yey