ahoneybun | manchicken: good | 00:02 |
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manchicken | Very good. | 00:09 |
soee | good morning | 06:22 |
shadeslayer | mornign | 09:01 |
shadeslayer | *morning | 09:01 |
Riddell | hola chico | 09:10 |
shadeslayer | hola Riddell | 09:14 |
shadeslayer | hmm, no new u-m yet | 09:14 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: can you accept u-m if I re upload it? | 09:15 |
shadeslayer | apparently I deleted u-m last night from my disk :/ | 09:18 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: poke poke? | 09:25 |
shadeslayer | I have to leave in 10 minutes :P | 09:26 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: I've uploaded it, please approve when you get to it | 09:30 |
shadeslayer | bye | 09:35 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: groovy | 10:33 |
BluesKaj | Hi folks | 10:43 |
ovidiu-florin | hello world | 10:51 |
ovidiu-florin | do you also get an error here ? https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/sysadmin/ufw-kde/repository | 10:51 |
BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, yes | 10:53 |
BluesKaj | internal error | 10:53 |
ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj: any ideea what can be done about that? | 10:54 |
BluesKaj | nope :( | 10:54 |
yofel | ovidiu-florin: -> #kde-sysadmin | 10:55 |
lordievader | ovidiu-florin: HTTP 5** errors are server errors, there isn't a whole lot you can do about it. Unless you are sys admin of that machine ;) | 10:55 |
ovidiu-florin | ok ;) | 10:55 |
Riddell | tsdgeos: you know about i18n magic? if launchpad gives me files in the form notificationhelper-ar.po is there some cmake magic to install them in the right place? | 11:37 |
Riddell | the KDE norm is ar/notificationhelper.po | 11:37 |
tsdgeos | no clue | 11:38 |
Riddell | fooey | 11:38 |
apachelogger | Riddell: so ubuntu language packs are off the table? | 11:41 |
Riddell | apachelogger: next on my todo | 11:42 |
apachelogger | what's the deal with notificationhelper then? :P | 11:42 |
apachelogger | anyway, with cmake just hold on to what releaseme produces | 11:42 |
apachelogger | basically you just need to have appropriate calls for GETTEXT_PROCESS_PO_FILES(da ALL INSTALL_DESTINATION ${LOCALE_INSTALL_DIR} ${_po_files} ) | 11:43 |
* jussi prods at Riddell... | 11:49 | |
Riddell | apachelogger: notificationhelper gets its translations from launchpad | 11:49 |
* Riddell caresses jussi | 11:50 | |
jussi | aww | 11:50 |
jussi | Riddell: now look at your PM's | 11:50 |
apachelogger | Riddell: doesn't matter | 11:52 |
apachelogger | a po is a po :P | 11:52 |
apachelogger | unless you need codez to get the po out of lunchpad | 11:53 |
Riddell | gosh quassel has a scary po/CMakeLists.txt | 11:53 |
jussi | Sput: !!! | 11:53 |
Riddell | apachelogger: relaseme puts lines like GETTEXT_PROCESS_PO_FILES(pl ALL INSTALL_DESTINATION ${LOCALE_INSTALL_DIR} ${_po_files} ) | 11:54 |
apachelogger | Sput: ??? | 11:54 |
Riddell | but that's not possible for foo-pl.po | 11:54 |
apachelogger | so rename foo-pl.po? :P | 11:54 |
Riddell | I'm sure it's possible with cmake but my cmake foo would take some working out | 11:54 |
Riddell | so yeah rename is what I'm thinking | 11:54 |
apachelogger | from (template)-(language).po you cannot deduce where language starts, unless language cannot contain -, yet language can contain - with launchpad (zh-tw for example) | 11:57 |
apachelogger | so, I dunno what you try to do but I think the way to go is write a script that uses the launchpad api to get the po files, so you can reliably get the language and template ids to save them such that you can build a cmakelists.txt accordingly | 12:01 |
apachelogger | the only other option is you build a cmake macro around GETTEXT_CREATE_TRANSLATIONS ... such as GETTEXT_CREATE_TRANSLATIONS(${template}.mo ${template}-${language}.po) | 12:02 |
apachelogger | but as I said, there is no 100% reliable parsing to get the template | 12:03 |
apachelogger | (script seems more scalable anyway since you need a way to get all the pos :P) | 12:04 |
* Riddell does the qtwebkit compiling dance https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit-source/2.3.2-0ubuntu2 | 12:23 | |
smartboyhw | Time to clean up the number of mails (> 450 in inbox) | 12:27 |
Riddell | 450? you're lucky! | 12:27 |
apachelogger | that's a lot | 12:28 |
apachelogger | I only have 1219 in my actual inbox | 12:28 |
smartboyhw | Riddell, erm, that's mainly because in debian-qt-kde mailing list;) | 12:28 |
smartboyhw | (Actually I don't normally get over 1000 except post-exam) | 12:28 |
apachelogger | you do not filter mailing lists? :O | 12:29 |
smartboyhw | apachelogger, no, don't see any need | 12:54 |
mikhas | I just accepted to live with +10k unread e-mails | 12:55 |
mikhas | but it's still nice to have those e-mails local, for search | 12:55 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: qtwebkit is still stuck in proposed? | 12:58 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: powerpc still compiling isn't it? | 12:58 |
Riddell | just done, it should go in shortly | 12:59 |
shadeslayer | ahh okay | 13:00 |
smartboyhw | ScottK, approve the ubuntustudio-default-settings SRU in Precise queue plz.... | 13:00 |
shadeslayer | I just thought that everything looked good, so was wondering why it hadn't migrated | 13:00 |
smartboyhw | Nice, we got Google Code-In this year (will be participating) | 13:00 |
Riddell | who's we? | 13:01 |
smartboyhw | Riddell, we = the world's people:) | 13:01 |
smartboyhw | Teenagers, rather | 13:01 |
Riddell | [ubuntu/saucy] qtwebkit-source 2.3.2-0ubuntu2 (Accepted) | 13:12 |
Riddell | dooby de doo doo feeling groovy | 13:12 |
BluesKaj | network management settings in kubuntu 13.10 has no wired or vpn tab options, all that's available is a settings appearance option . I'm going to crosspost thius in #ubuntu+1 too. | 13:23 |
Riddell | BluesKaj: it's got a long list of options including wired and various vpns | 13:24 |
BluesKaj | there is a plasmoid settings option , but no kde dialog option | 13:25 |
BluesKaj | Riddell, I'll post a prtscrn | 13:25 |
shadeslayer | possibly you don't have the plugins necessary? | 13:26 |
Riddell | BluesKaj: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/tmp/plasma-nm.png add button has a long list | 13:27 |
BluesKaj | I seem to be missing some kde user space | 13:28 |
BluesKaj | http://wstaw.org/m/2013/10/10/snapshot1.png | 13:29 |
Riddell | BluesKaj: how do you get to there? | 13:30 |
BluesKaj | Riddell, by rightclicking on the etherent wdget | 13:32 |
BluesKaj | err ethernet | 13:32 |
Riddell | BluesKaj: ah interesting, don't think I've seen that before, yeah it looks incomplete | 13:33 |
shadeslayer | looks fine for me http://i.imgur.com/Pv0oE4d.png | 13:33 |
BluesKaj | yup, it sure does | 13:33 |
Riddell | but it's only to set what details is shown, nothing about making a connection | 13:33 |
shadeslayer | ^^ | 13:33 |
BluesKaj | Riddell, exactly | 13:34 |
BluesKaj | Riddell, where are you finding the connection editor ? | 13:35 |
Riddell | BluesKaj: left click -> spanner icon -> edit connections | 13:36 |
BluesKaj | I have the plasmoid popups showing when I left click | 13:38 |
BluesKaj | connection popup | 13:38 |
shadeslayer | BluesKaj: and there should be a spanner icon | 13:38 |
shadeslayer | that you can click | 13:38 |
BluesKaj | yes that what I showed earlier in the screenshot | 13:39 |
soee | hiho | 13:39 |
BluesKaj | in the nn popup dialogbox , shadeslayer | 13:40 |
BluesKaj | nm that is | 13:40 |
shadeslayer | nah, wrong spanner | 13:40 |
shadeslayer | BluesKaj: http://i.imgur.com/sAReDcD.png | 13:41 |
shadeslayer | BluesKaj: bottom right | 13:41 |
BluesKaj | shadeslayer, I don't have that available | 13:43 |
shadeslayer | o_o | 13:43 |
BluesKaj | think I'll install a daily to fill in the missing apps | 13:52 |
BluesKaj | somethingf has definitely fallen thru the cracks | 13:53 |
BluesKaj | missing some libs , guess I lost some when I purged gnome after experimenting with it for a couple days | 13:57 |
lordievader | Good afternoon. | 14:09 |
Riddell | hi lordievader | 14:09 |
Riddell | lordievader: we had a request to remove the Installation pages from the docs as it's not ready yet, fancy taking that on sometime? | 14:10 |
lordievader | Phew not sure if I'm going to have time for that. Perhaps I can do it sunday if that is not too late. | 14:10 |
Riddell | smartboyhw: did you give up on digikam 3.4? | 14:10 |
shadeslayer | was going to poke about that ^^ | 14:11 |
Riddell | bug 1221851 | 14:11 |
ubottu | bug 1221851 in digikam (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please merge digikam 3.4.0-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221851 | 14:11 |
smartboyhw | Riddell, give up (ENOTIME basically) | 14:12 |
shadeslayer | " add transitional package from networkmanagement " | 14:12 |
shadeslayer | shouldn't that be fixed *now* | 14:12 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: yep, I can do it or you can take it on | 14:13 |
shadeslayer | can do | 14:13 |
Riddell | highvoltage: bad for you guys? http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/10/09/1648218/south-african-education-department-bans-free-and-open-source-software | 14:21 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/p4c06b30b | 14:22 |
shadeslayer | wtf @ slashdot story | 14:23 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: lovely | 14:23 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: uploaded, please accept once it hits the archive | 14:24 |
shadeslayer | s/archive/queue | 14:25 |
highvoltage | Riddell: yeah it's horrible | 14:29 |
highvoltage | Riddell: it's actually against government policy so I don't think it will stand | 14:30 |
highvoltage | also, delphiwtf | 14:30 |
Riddell | I remember that from 20 years ago | 14:30 |
highvoltage | the company selling all these delphi licenses are trying to make a big case for delphi being modern and being the shortest path to writing android + iphone + windows apps, etc, etc | 14:31 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: not seeing it | 14:31 |
highvoltage | spending lots of money trying to convince everyone that it's a good choice. | 14:32 |
highvoltage | and the only other language they're comparing it too is java. | 14:32 |
highvoltage | but there's a whole bunch of us making the case for python instead. | 14:32 |
Riddell | apachelogger: 13.10 l10n board done except upstream issue with ksplash | 14:37 |
apachelogger | Riddell: yay | 14:43 |
apachelogger | ubottu: find gee.h | 14:43 |
Riddell | apachelogger: can I close the board? | 14:44 |
apachelogger | Riddell: yeah | 14:44 |
Riddell | wow we have a lot of changes in digikam | 14:51 |
Riddell | it's a beast of a package | 14:51 |
shadeslayer | oh crap | 15:33 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: the transitional package will be in New | 15:33 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: approved! | 15:39 |
shadeslayer | \o/ | 15:40 |
Sput | jussi, apachelogger, Riddell: wat.? | 16:22 |
Riddell | Sput: I think it was a contentless ping, carry on | 16:23 |
Sput | ok. :) | 16:24 |
Sput | and yes, our po/CMakeLists.txt is scary | 16:24 |
Sput | mostly because we need to somehow get the transifex stuff (.po) converted into Qt's stuff (which is not the same as KDE's) | 16:25 |
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shadeslayer | I'm bored | 16:32 |
Riddell | um, fix some bugs? | 16:33 |
Riddell | fix plasma-active | 16:33 |
Riddell | just needs something commented out from the startactive script | 16:33 |
Mamarok | oh my | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | commented out? | 16:35 |
shadeslayer | or enable things that have been commented out | 16:35 |
Riddell | enable things that have been commented out | 16:36 |
shadeslayer | roger roger | 16:36 |
Riddell | dbus things I think, was in some bug report | 16:36 |
shadeslayer | yep, saw that | 16:37 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/p01edb7c4 | 16:39 |
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Riddell | shadeslayer: ah but does it do anything? | 16:42 |
shadeslayer | is kubuntu active installable? | 16:42 |
shadeslayer | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-active-data_1%3a0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack): | 16:42 |
shadeslayer | trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-dataengine-recommendations.desktop', which is also in package contour-data 3.0-0ubuntu2 | 16:42 |
shadeslayer | ubottu: find plasma-dataengine-recommendations.desktop | 16:43 |
Riddell | I think contour-data is obsolete | 16:43 |
shadeslayer | but kubuntu-active still seems to depend on it/ | 16:43 |
Riddell | meta package could do with an update then | 16:44 |
Riddell | good thing you're onto it :) | 16:44 |
shadeslayer | *nod* | 16:44 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: running startactive seems to work btw | 16:47 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: awesome, it didn't do much when I tried a live image the other day | 16:48 |
Riddell | ScottK: digikam in unapproved if you want to decide bug 1221851 | 16:48 |
ubottu | bug 1221851 in digikam (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please merge digikam 3.4.0-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221851 | 16:48 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: right, I ran startactive from a running KDE session | 16:48 |
* Riddell out | 16:49 | |
shadeslayer | whut http://pastebin.kde.org/pteaknylx | 16:54 |
BluesKaj | ok , I now have the "edit connections" option with NM , but the vpn connection icon doesn't show in the panel , the plasmoids in the last upgrades seem to be lacking network status icons/notifiers | 17:22 |
rohan | is there going to be an RC image for kubuntu 13.10? | 17:49 |
shadeslayer | rohan: final image, yes | 18:21 |
rohan | shadeslayer: so just the final on 17th? no interim RC? | 18:22 |
shadeslayer | rohan: I think the RC is ~final image | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | unless something goes horribly bad or sth, the RC will become the final image | 18:23 |
rohan | there is no RC image, right? | 18:23 |
rohan | i only see beta 2 | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | not yet, freeze today | 18:23 |
shadeslayer | RC images sometime over the week | 18:23 |
rohan | so if i want 13.10 today, my best bet is to use the daily live from http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/ ? | 18:24 |
shadeslayer | correct | 18:24 |
shadeslayer | or well | 18:24 |
shadeslayer | Beta 2 should be installable and better tested | 18:25 |
shadeslayer | we don't have the man power to test live images daily | 18:25 |
shadeslayer | so they might / might not install | 18:25 |
rohan | fair enough | 18:25 |
rohan | just trying to think how much i will have to upgrade after installing via beta2.. i think i'll need to get the new KDE at the least, right | 18:26 |
shadeslayer | I think so yeah | 18:26 |
shadeslayer | but I think it's like 300 MB's of updates, not *huge* | 18:26 |
rohan | true, i guess i'll go with beta2 | 18:27 |
shadeslayer | awesome :) | 18:27 |
rohan | thanks, shadeslayer | 18:27 |
shadeslayer | np | 18:27 |
rohan | do you know if the installer allows using btrfs? | 18:27 |
Blizzz | gna, any idea why my microphone gets suspended? all looks ok in alsamixer and phonon *sigh* | 18:27 |
shadeslayer | Blizzz: check pavucontrol? | 18:28 |
rohan | aw, i hope there are no sound issues on my laptop: that's one of the reasons i'm switching from archlinux | 18:28 |
shadeslayer | rohan: try out the livecd to check ? :) | 18:28 |
shadeslayer | rohan: and regarding btrfs, yes, installer will offer that IIRC via manual partitioning | 18:29 |
rohan | yep. kubuntu 13.04 worked perfectly | 18:29 |
rohan | ah, sounds good | 18:29 |
shadeslayer | well, dunno, but stuff changed b/w 13.04 and 13.10 | 18:29 |
shadeslayer | ( hopefully for the better ) | 18:30 |
Blizzz | shadeslayer: looks good, too | 18:30 |
shadeslayer | Blizzz: can you try muting and unmuting it | 18:31 |
rohan | i am curious to know if pm-utils was deprecated. hopefully 13.10 is using systemd-login or such | 18:31 |
Blizzz | shadeslayer: tried already | 18:31 |
shadeslayer | rohan: it's using a hacked up version of logind yes | 18:32 |
shadeslayer | and yeah, pm-utils should be removed | 18:32 |
Blizzz | now after opening pavucontrol pactl list sources | less i had another source marked running here "pactl list sources | less" taken this to avconv works (was not there before). | 18:32 |
rohan | shadeslayer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/kubuntu-desktop looks like it still depends on pm-utils | 18:33 |
shadeslayer | hmm odd | 18:34 |
shadeslayer | Riddell added it as a explicit dep | 18:34 |
shadeslayer | I thought we got it working | 18:34 |
shadeslayer | yofel: ^^ | 18:34 |
yofel | uh, look at what's needed first - they changed something in upower again recently so I'm not sure whether logind actually works right now | 18:35 |
yofel | kde's native logind support doesn't work | 18:35 |
rohan | plus i don't see systemd or logind as a depends on that package | 18:36 |
rohan | oh so 13.10 will continue using pm-utils, yofel ? | 18:36 |
shadeslayer | lets see if suspending works without pm-utils | 18:37 |
yofel | probably - I've had no time to look at this at all recently | 18:37 |
rohan | the reason i asked is because pm-utils doesn't support in-kernel hybrid sleep built in since kernel 3.6 | 18:41 |
rohan | fedora has a patch for it, but it's not accepted upstream | 18:41 |
shadeslayer | I think I know the reason | 18:49 |
shadeslayer | and I can probably fix this by tomorrow | 18:49 |
shadeslayer | but should we land it | 18:49 |
ahoneybun | howdy | 18:50 |
rohan | shadeslayer: if there is a bug open for it (or if you open it), could you share it please? i'd be interested to know what happens | 18:51 |
shadeslayer | sure | 18:56 |
shadeslayer | so I know the problem now | 19:03 |
shadeslayer | basically | 19:03 |
shadeslayer | upower is broken | 19:03 |
shadeslayer | and since ubuntu switched to the frankenstien mash of systemd-shim + logind, and logind worked for them | 19:03 |
shadeslayer | no one bothered with checking upower | 19:03 |
shadeslayer | ( alternative version, upower / systemd-shim are conflicting ) | 19:04 |
shadeslayer | libsolid checks systemd versioning | 19:04 |
shadeslayer | and that versioning interface is not present in ubuntu causing it to fallback to upower which doesn't work | 19:04 |
* shadeslayer jumps out a window | 19:06 | |
rohan | oh goodie | 19:07 |
shadeslayer | yofel: want to update the meta package | 19:07 |
yofel | could you please? | 19:08 |
shadeslayer | okay | 19:08 |
yofel | thanks | 19:08 |
yofel | wait - update how? | 19:08 |
shadeslayer | update kubuntu-meta I meant | 19:08 |
shadeslayer | update + upload | 19:08 |
yofel | yeah, but with what? | 19:08 |
shadeslayer | just run germinate? | 19:09 |
shadeslayer | some stuff didn't get updated ( contour et all ) for active | 19:09 |
yofel | ah nvm, I'm tired | 19:09 |
shadeslayer | want me to do it? | 19:09 |
yofel | yes please | 19:09 |
shadeslayer | well this is weird | 19:17 |
shadeslayer | ./desktop:# * (printer-applet) | 19:17 |
shadeslayer | ./active: * (printer-applet) | 19:17 |
shadeslayer | why? | 19:17 |
BluesKaj | so what's new pw policy , do we need to use it at every turn , even tho I'm th eonly user andf have sudoers set up with for me all no password.What's changed here ? | 19:19 |
BluesKaj | this is pi**ing me off | 19:19 |
ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: hey | 19:51 |
ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: hey | 20:06 |
BluesKaj | lost the network manager in KDE after the last update/upgrade , have to use nm-applet , there's no kde network-manager widget available | 20:10 |
BluesKaj | must be the gnome/gtk network management files that come with installing a vpn client | 20:12 |
BluesKaj | which is linux friendly | 20:13 |
mustafa_muhammad | Hi, I installed beta 2 and found some problems, I wanted to ask you before reporting bugs. | 20:30 |
mustafa_muhammad | First, when I boot the live USB I don't get boot menu, only a black screen, when I press "Enter" the system starts loading. | 20:31 |
mustafa_muhammad | I will use ubuntu-bug ubiquity to report it, or you have another idea? | 20:32 |
mustafa_muhammad | Second, I have a UEFI system and my disk is GPT, I installed but the bootloader doesn't work (I get grub>>), I booted the system using another bootloader. | 20:37 |
mustafa_muhammad | Third, is a request, please add Muon Discover to the Favorates menu to make it visible to new users. | 20:38 |
BluesKaj | mustafa_muhammad, discover is listed up front in the computer section of the kmenu | 20:40 |
mustafa_muhammad | BluesKaj, I see, but I think it should be in the favorites, just an opinion, e.g. I open Dolphin and go anywhere from it, I never open menu->Computer | 20:47 |
mustafa_muhammad | and we have some empty space in the favorites menu :) | 20:47 |
BluesKaj | mustafa_muhammad, let's hope discover is less clunlk by the official release date | 20:48 |
BluesKaj | err clunky | 20:52 |
mustafa_muhammad | Let's hope so, is it made using QML? | 20:55 |
rohan | why is there a separate image for Macs? how is it different? | 22:19 |
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