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wilee-nilee13.10's home is showing hidden files, inspite of dconf-editor not ticked for this, no biggie just wondering.00:35
Ari-Yangwilee-nilee: when will 13.10 officially be released? and is libg3dvl-mesa shipped with it?00:37
k1l_!saucy00:37
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.00:37
Ari-Yangah00:38
Ari-Yangand what about libg3dvl-mesa? :T00:38
Ari-Yangfor gallium3D00:38
k1l_dont know00:41
XabsterHi, I tried downloading saucy-desktop-amd64.iso and copy it to USB stick with "dd if=my.iso of=/dev/sdc" but I can't boot from it00:57
Xabsteror rather, the menu comes up but when i select "install ubuntu" i get "wrong magic number, load kernel first"00:57
roadfishhow stable is the 13.10 ISO right now? I'd like to install something tomorrow ... or is it best to wait until 17th?03:18
SirFunk_For some reason my notifications are whacky now. They just show a blue square box with plain text in them, any ideas?03:47
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dariusc93whatever they did to pulseaudio and alsa in 13.10 is very buggy when it comes to installing 32bit drivers for skype07:01
Volkodavdariusc93: +107:20
dariusc93i hope its fixed on the official release..07:21
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Volkodavhope so too07:45
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blueyedIs gnome-terminal meant to have the HUD enabled? (ie menu moved out of the window and tapping Alt allows to access it)10:28
blueyedOk, I can at least use the "Show menubar" option to hide it. The HUD itself appears to be broken in general here.10:40
BluesKajHi folks10:43
blueyedIs the "Options" dialog gone from keyboard settings? (where you can configure caps lock behaviour etc)11:34
lem1310hi all.. just giving 13.10 a spin before its release. i just noticed that both gedit and nautilus windows now need to be focused to respond to mousewheel scroll events. libreoffice writer, firefox, gnome-terminal and compizconfig-settings-manager all behave like before (can scroll just by hovering, no need to focus)12:00
popolonhi12:16
popolonhttp://popolon.org/gblog3/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Cubieboard2_Ubuntu-13.10-Saucy.b2.jpg12:16
popolonI installed an ubuntu 13.10 on an ARM cubieboard2 from ubuntu-core successfully12:17
popolonbut there is still a network problem12:17
popolonI have to make an ifup -a /my/file/for/eth012:18
popolonloopback is ok12:18
popoloneth0 uses dhcp12:18
popolon in my case12:18
popolonI seen that on X86version, there are no files at all in /etc/network/interfaces.d/12:19
popolonand this works fine12:19
dariusc93popolon: if you dont mind me asking,  but why arm?13:03
popolonbecause I use arm cpu13:04
popolonthat's a good reason isn't it ?13:04
popolonthis cpu use far less power than x86 (<15w for the whole system), is really compact, I can put my finger on the SoC, that integrate everything, and is far better organized than x86 or amd64 stuff, if you want to ask why to choose arm13:05
popolonand powerfull enough for what I do13:06
dariusc93okay lol13:06
dariusc93I was just wondering13:06
dariusc93normally I thought the arm version of ubuntu was for mobile devices xD13:06
popolonand far less expansive, and with lot of funny connectors and ... some other things I probably forget13:07
popolonprobbly few years ago yes, but arm SoCs are more and more powerfull13:07
popolonfar better than intel with integrated chips to make media center for example13:07
popolongood enough to make X terminal computer13:08
dariusc93sounds like something that the pi could be use for13:08
popolonyes !13:08
popolonpi is used by a friend as media center13:08
popolonbut not powerfull enough for desktop13:08
popolonand has no SATA (the cubieboard2 has one)13:09
popolonetc...13:09
popolonthe drivers are still experimentals, this board was first selled in june :)13:09
dariusc93the pi is good for light stuff, but  not a full blown desktop13:09
dariusc93lol13:09
popolonhttp://popolon.org/cubieboard/demos_video.201310/  <= some test with the actual state of drivers (using xubuntu 13.04)13:10
popolonmypaint 1.1 works well13:10
popolongood enough with wacom for drawing13:10
popolonmypaint git version doesn't, but probably due to some changes in architectures, even on 64 bits x64 there are some problems13:11
popolonmost arm only manage OpenGL ES, not OpenGL, new one manage OpenGL13:12
popolonand there are some linux industrial server working on arm, that has more power/watt/m² than x86, that's a coming market13:12
popolonbut we are out of topic13:13
popolonand this doesn't resolv my problem13:13
popolon:)13:13
dariusc93lol13:14
dariusc93how does 13.10 work for you so far? It works fine except for pulse audio and alsa -_-13:14
popolonworks fine for me13:15
popolonon x8613:15
popolononly installed on arm this night13:15
popolonneed more tests13:15
popolonI use xubuntu13:16
popolonand the audio volume icon doesn't work13:16
popolonbut sound work13:16
popolonand alsamixer can be used for that13:16
BluesKajnetwork management settings in kubuntu 13.10 has no wired or vpn tab options, all that's available is a settings appearance option13:24
RoryIn saucy, the programs "gksu" and "gksudo" aren't installed by default; what is the preferred way to launch graphical applications with elevated privelages from the terminal? Is it safe to use "sudo" now without clobbering the ~/.Xauthority file?15:06
dariusc93do anyone know if saucy daily build ever changed or is it stuck at the final beta build?16:31
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mnd999Hi, having a problem with Saucy beta. Network manager widget has totally disappeared. How do I get it back?18:17
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mnd999I can kinda see that it changed to plasma-nm, but thats installed and doesn't seem to work18:19
wastrelplasma is kde isn't it?18:20
mnd999yes18:21
wastrelnm-applet18:21
mnd999nope18:21
wastrelnot nm-applet?18:21
mnd999thats gnome18:21
wastreli'm beginning to suspect you're using kde18:21
mnd999yes, kubuntu18:21
wastrelwell i hope you figure out your thing ♥18:22
mnd999i tried #kubuntu but was sent here18:22
BluesKajso what's the new pw policy , do we need to use it at every turn , even tho I'm the only user and have sudoers set up with for me all no password.What's changed here ?19:21
BluesKajlost the network manager in KDE after the last update/upgrade  , have to use nm-applet , there's no kde nm available20:02
BluesKajlost the network manager in KDE after the last update/upgrade  , have to use nm-applet , there's no kde network-manager widget available20:09
BluesKajoops20:09
tekoniveli think i just started running Mir. I believe i am in the future :)20:10
BluesKajoops , meant to post that in devel20:10
BluesKajwell, lets hope the future is bright  :)20:11
BluesKajI'm sticking with KDE20:11
tekonivelBluesKaj: the future looks quite the same as the past. I'm not even sure if i am there. I'm running saucy, and installed ubuntu-system-compositor20:13
tekoniveli still have $DISPLAY defined, so it's not too much unlike the 1990's with X11 :)20:13
BluesKajtekonivel, I have no idea , but perhaps checking your display settings in system settings might tell you something othger then the resolution20:14
BluesKajother than20:14
tekonivelxlogo(1) still runs...20:17
tekonivelthe questions is..... when you arrive in the future, how can you possibly tell?20:17
tekoniveloh well20:17
nopfhi. just to be sure: this is for questions about saucy? ...where my problem is probably not fully saucy specific20:27
tekonivelnopf: yeh saucy is the topic here20:29
nopfwell i tried full encrypted install, which didn't work out. "/dev/mapper" (the suggestion) was no good to install grub into. on 2nd try without encryption now on lvm on a so called software raid which is in the bios it seems of a server. i just don't know where to put grub.20:31
nopfoh btw i use netinstall via pxe20:34
nopfthe thing is, grub doesn't even come up at all. it installed to /dev/<lvname> without error. how can it boot? don't i have to install to a physical drive bootblock at all?20:36
BluesKajnopf, usually to the mbr on the sda assigned device ,...raid could be differnt dunno20:38
nopfso i have /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/md126 /dev/mapper/lv1 /dev/mapper/swp1 ... i haven't tried /dev/md126. on third thought that might be the reasonable choice...20:38
nopfBluesKaj: yeah, thought so. only sda and sdb errord out on install. the raid it seems, so md126 i'll try now20:39
nopfnope... grub-install failed...20:40
nopf... and some weeks ago i thought, installing to uefi was hard ...20:41

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