[00:35] 13.10's home is showing hidden files, inspite of dconf-editor not ticked for this, no biggie just wondering. [00:37] wilee-nilee: when will 13.10 officially be released? and is libg3dvl-mesa shipped with it? [00:37] !saucy [00:37] Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013. [00:38] ah [00:38] and what about libg3dvl-mesa? :T [00:38] for gallium3D [00:41] dont know [00:57] Hi, I tried downloading saucy-desktop-amd64.iso and copy it to USB stick with "dd if=my.iso of=/dev/sdc" but I can't boot from it [00:57] or rather, the menu comes up but when i select "install ubuntu" i get "wrong magic number, load kernel first" [03:18] how stable is the 13.10 ISO right now? I'd like to install something tomorrow ... or is it best to wait until 17th? [03:47] For some reason my notifications are whacky now. They just show a blue square box with plain text in them, any ideas? === rms__ is now known as palsec [07:01] whatever they did to pulseaudio and alsa in 13.10 is very buggy when it comes to installing 32bit drivers for skype [07:20] dariusc93: +1 [07:21] i hope its fixed on the official release.. === Trewas666 is now known as trewas [07:45] hope so too === wilee-nilee is now known as Guest39799 === sporkeee is now known as wilee-nilee [10:28] Is gnome-terminal meant to have the HUD enabled? (ie menu moved out of the window and tapping Alt allows to access it) [10:40] Ok, I can at least use the "Show menubar" option to hide it. The HUD itself appears to be broken in general here. [10:43] Hi folks [11:34] Is the "Options" dialog gone from keyboard settings? (where you can configure caps lock behaviour etc) [12:00] hi all.. just giving 13.10 a spin before its release. i just noticed that both gedit and nautilus windows now need to be focused to respond to mousewheel scroll events. libreoffice writer, firefox, gnome-terminal and compizconfig-settings-manager all behave like before (can scroll just by hovering, no need to focus) [12:16] hi [12:16] http://popolon.org/gblog3/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Cubieboard2_Ubuntu-13.10-Saucy.b2.jpg [12:17] I installed an ubuntu 13.10 on an ARM cubieboard2 from ubuntu-core successfully [12:17] but there is still a network problem [12:18] I have to make an ifup -a /my/file/for/eth0 [12:18] loopback is ok [12:18] eth0 uses dhcp [12:18] in my case [12:19] I seen that on X86version, there are no files at all in /etc/network/interfaces.d/ [12:19] and this works fine [13:03] popolon: if you dont mind me asking, but why arm? [13:04] because I use arm cpu [13:04] that's a good reason isn't it ? [13:05] this cpu use far less power than x86 (<15w for the whole system), is really compact, I can put my finger on the SoC, that integrate everything, and is far better organized than x86 or amd64 stuff, if you want to ask why to choose arm [13:06] and powerfull enough for what I do [13:06] okay lol [13:06] I was just wondering [13:06] normally I thought the arm version of ubuntu was for mobile devices xD [13:07] and far less expansive, and with lot of funny connectors and ... some other things I probably forget [13:07] probbly few years ago yes, but arm SoCs are more and more powerfull [13:07] far better than intel with integrated chips to make media center for example [13:08] good enough to make X terminal computer [13:08] sounds like something that the pi could be use for [13:08] yes ! [13:08] pi is used by a friend as media center [13:08] but not powerfull enough for desktop [13:09] and has no SATA (the cubieboard2 has one) [13:09] etc... [13:09] the drivers are still experimentals, this board was first selled in june :) [13:09] the pi is good for light stuff, but not a full blown desktop [13:09] lol [13:10] http://popolon.org/cubieboard/demos_video.201310/ <= some test with the actual state of drivers (using xubuntu 13.04) [13:10] mypaint 1.1 works well [13:10] good enough with wacom for drawing [13:11] mypaint git version doesn't, but probably due to some changes in architectures, even on 64 bits x64 there are some problems [13:12] most arm only manage OpenGL ES, not OpenGL, new one manage OpenGL [13:12] and there are some linux industrial server working on arm, that has more power/watt/m² than x86, that's a coming market [13:13] but we are out of topic [13:13] and this doesn't resolv my problem [13:13] :) [13:14] lol [13:14] how does 13.10 work for you so far? It works fine except for pulse audio and alsa -_- [13:15] works fine for me [13:15] on x86 [13:15] only installed on arm this night [13:15] need more tests [13:16] I use xubuntu [13:16] and the audio volume icon doesn't work [13:16] but sound work [13:16] and alsamixer can be used for that [13:24] network management settings in kubuntu 13.10 has no wired or vpn tab options, all that's available is a settings appearance option [15:06] In saucy, the programs "gksu" and "gksudo" aren't installed by default; what is the preferred way to launch graphical applications with elevated privelages from the terminal? Is it safe to use "sudo" now without clobbering the ~/.Xauthority file? [16:31] do anyone know if saucy daily build ever changed or is it stuck at the final beta build? === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Maple[] is now known as RDisBestPony === Sander^Lap is now known as Sander^lap [18:17] Hi, having a problem with Saucy beta. Network manager widget has totally disappeared. How do I get it back? === RDisBestPony is now known as Maple[] [18:19] I can kinda see that it changed to plasma-nm, but thats installed and doesn't seem to work [18:20] plasma is kde isn't it? [18:21] yes [18:21] nm-applet [18:21] nope [18:21] not nm-applet? [18:21] thats gnome [18:21] i'm beginning to suspect you're using kde [18:21] yes, kubuntu [18:22] well i hope you figure out your thing ♥ [18:22] i tried #kubuntu but was sent here [19:21] so what's the new pw policy , do we need to use it at every turn , even tho I'm the only user and have sudoers set up with for me all no password.What's changed here ? [20:02] lost the network manager in KDE after the last update/upgrade , have to use nm-applet , there's no kde nm available [20:09] lost the network manager in KDE after the last update/upgrade , have to use nm-applet , there's no kde network-manager widget available [20:09] oops [20:10] i think i just started running Mir. I believe i am in the future :) [20:10] oops , meant to post that in devel [20:11] well, lets hope the future is bright :) [20:11] I'm sticking with KDE [20:13] BluesKaj: the future looks quite the same as the past. I'm not even sure if i am there. I'm running saucy, and installed ubuntu-system-compositor [20:13] i still have $DISPLAY defined, so it's not too much unlike the 1990's with X11 :) [20:14] tekonivel, I have no idea , but perhaps checking your display settings in system settings might tell you something othger then the resolution [20:14] other than [20:17] xlogo(1) still runs... [20:17] the questions is..... when you arrive in the future, how can you possibly tell? [20:17] oh well [20:27] hi. just to be sure: this is for questions about saucy? ...where my problem is probably not fully saucy specific [20:29] nopf: yeh saucy is the topic here [20:31] well i tried full encrypted install, which didn't work out. "/dev/mapper" (the suggestion) was no good to install grub into. on 2nd try without encryption now on lvm on a so called software raid which is in the bios it seems of a server. i just don't know where to put grub. [20:34] oh btw i use netinstall via pxe [20:36] the thing is, grub doesn't even come up at all. it installed to /dev/ without error. how can it boot? don't i have to install to a physical drive bootblock at all? [20:38] nopf, usually to the mbr on the sda assigned device ,...raid could be differnt dunno [20:38] so i have /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/md126 /dev/mapper/lv1 /dev/mapper/swp1 ... i haven't tried /dev/md126. on third thought that might be the reasonable choice... [20:39] BluesKaj: yeah, thought so. only sda and sdb errord out on install. the raid it seems, so md126 i'll try now [20:40] nope... grub-install failed... [20:41] ... and some weeks ago i thought, installing to uefi was hard ...