[00:03] <bkerensa> woah
[00:03] <bkerensa> my keyboard back lighting is going on the fritz
[06:52] <dholbach> good morning
[13:12] <jcastro> hey popey
[13:12] <jcastro> my software update spins forever sometimes
[13:12] <jcastro> is that normalish?
[13:13] <popey> more detail required
[13:13] <jcastro> the circle just spins there
[13:13] <jcastro> but I'm on an N7 not an N4
[13:13] <jcastro> so I don't think you care about me yet
[13:14] <popey> i have n7 too
[13:14] <popey> adb shell
[13:14] <popey> system-image-cli -i
[13:14] <popey> what version you on?
[13:14] <jcastro> 68 I think, new desktop install, not set up with adb yet
[13:14]  * jcastro goes off to do that
[13:15] <jcastro> do I need to PPA or is everything in saucy these days?
[13:15] <popey> wat wat wat
[13:15] <popey> 68 is ye olde
[13:15] <jcastro> yeah I saw your 70 announcement and wanted the goodies
[13:15] <popey> 70?
[13:15] <popey> 90!
[13:15] <jcastro> the one with mir
[13:15] <popey> re-flash it with something newer - phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel saucy
[13:15] <popey> yes, 90
[13:15] <jcastro> anyway, it's updating now
[13:16] <popey> yay
[13:16] <jcastro> it seemed like the ui for the update button was hung
[15:04] <dholbach> hey jono - welcome back :)
[15:05] <jono> hey dholbach :-)
[15:05] <jono> thanks!
[15:05] <jono> great to be back :-)
[15:05] <smartboyhw> jono, how do you find Japan?
[15:05] <smartboyhw> (And more importantly, it's food)
[15:07] <jono> smartboyhw, had a wonderful time!
[15:07] <jono> the food is...different :-)
[15:08] <jono> I ate things I didn't know even existed :-)
[15:08] <jono> but what a wonderful culture and people
[15:08] <jono> Japanese people are literally the nicest people I have ever met
[15:08] <jono> there is one downside
[15:08] <smartboyhw> jono, lol. I quite like Japanese food and culture (not politics). Agreed for the nicest part:)
[15:08] <jono> I am now going to expect everyone to call me Jono San
[15:09] <jono> yeah, not aware of much of the politics
[15:09] <jono> but had a really awesome few days
[15:09] <dholbach> Daniel-san would make sense - everybody knows it from the movie (long time ago), Jono San... not so sure
[15:09] <dholbach> :-P
[15:09] <smartboyhw> LOL
[15:09] <jono> dholbach, this is true, Daniel San
[15:09] <dholbach> haha
[15:09]  * dholbach hugs jono
[15:09] <jono> wax on, wax off
[15:09]  * jono hugs dholbach :-)
[15:09] <dholbach> exactly
[15:09] <jono> I also slept like a champ last night
[15:09] <jono> Erica let me sleep in
[15:10] <jono> so like is beautiful today :-)
[15:10] <dholbach> ^ mhall119, jcastro, balloons, dpm: today is a good day to ask for holiday extensions
[15:11]  * balloons notes
[15:11] <dpm> pay rises anyone?
[15:11] <mhall119> pay raises....everyone!
[15:11] <balloons> team sprint in the Caribbean?
[15:11] <dpm> this is like UDS, so many good ideas coming up!
[15:12]  * mhall119 takes a work item to lay on the beach
[15:12] <jcastro> jono, there's a time-sensitive thing you need to approve or disapprove wrt. desrt, it's in your inbox
[15:13] <jono> jcastro, done
[15:13] <jono> I acked it
[15:13] <jono> mhall119, hey
[15:13] <jono> guess what I am going to ask?
[15:13] <jono> <drumroll?
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[15:13] <mhall119> how my day was?
[15:13] <mhall119> what I want for christmas?
[15:13] <jono> LOL
[15:13] <jono> .........what is the d.u.c update?
[15:13] <jono> :-)
[15:13] <mhall119> all I want for christmas is an easy juju deployment to prodstack
[15:14]  * smartboyhw wonders how much jono was paid;)
[15:14] <jcastro> jono, http://ikeaordeath.com/
[15:14] <jono> smartboyhw, I get paid in tears
[15:14] <jcastro> it's much harder than it seems ^^
[15:14] <jono> jcastro, I saw that
[15:14] <jono> I havent had a go yet
[15:14] <smartboyhw> jono, great, how many litres of tears?
[15:14] <mhall119> jono: so on Friday I fixed the nagios error, which jjo then tried to deploy with a charm upgrade on Monday, which showed us that upgrading the charm for an existing deployment didn't work at all
[15:15] <mhall119> and since that's how it is going to be upgraded, that needed to work
[15:15] <mhall119> so I spent tuesday going back and forth with jjo to figure out exactly what was failing, then most of yesterday with marcoceppi figuring out how to make it not fail
[15:15] <balloons> jcastro, epic site!
[15:15] <mhall119> late yesterday I filed a new rt (jjo's request) with an updated and more tested charm
[15:16] <mhall119> I had to rip out some "clever" things that I got from the certification charm I was basing mine off, because they were the parts not working and I didn't understand what or why, so it's slightly less clever but it works now
[15:17] <jono> smartboyhw, depends on the day :-)
[15:17] <marcoceppi> mhall119: well it works now!
[15:17] <smartboyhw> jono, nice:)
[15:17] <mhall119> marcoceppi: it works now on LXC
[15:17] <jcastro> jono, also, news flash ...
[15:17] <marcoceppi> mhall119: Charms build character
[15:17] <mhall119> marcoceppi: we'll see about production
[15:17] <marcoceppi> ;)
[15:17] <balloons> marcoceppi, lol
[15:17] <jcastro> we'll have manual provisioning in about 7 days
[15:17] <mhall119> marcoceppi: puts hair on my chest?
[15:17] <jono> mhall119, so now it is ready for deployment?
[15:17] <jcastro> aka. juju for everybody. juju for alan bell.
[15:17] <mhall119> drives me to the bottle
[15:18] <mhall119> jono: yes, just waiting on a webop to pick it up and do it
[15:18] <jono> mhall119, poifect
[15:18] <jono> thanks for dealing with all of this pain
[15:18] <jono> you will be rewarded with more work items
[15:18] <marcoceppi> mhall119: now you know why I get paid in beer tabs ;)
[15:18]  * mhall119 blames jcastro for all the pain
[15:18] <jono> don't say I don't care
[15:18] <jono> :-)
[15:18] <jcastro> hey man, don't blame us.
[15:18] <jono> it is all jcastro's fault
[15:18] <jcastro> prodstack is a world of pain
[15:18] <mhall119> jono: yay?
[15:18] <jono> I agree, never blame the Juju team
[15:18] <jono> lol
[15:18] <jcastro> mhall119, fire it up on ec2 and expense it
[15:18] <jcastro> :p
[15:19] <jono> jcastro, hey, screw you :-)
[15:19] <mhall119> jcastro: you were supposed to convince IS to be all hippie and open it up to us to deploy whatever we wanted
[15:19] <jono> no "just expense it" :-)
[15:19] <jcastro> seirously, next week
[15:19] <jcastro> JUJU ON DIGITAL OCEAN
[15:19] <jcastro> Juju on Linode, Juju on $anything_with_ubuntu_ssh
[15:19] <marcoceppi> JUJU ON SLICED BREAD
[15:19] <smartboyhw> jcastro, huh, I got 11 in http://ikeaordeath.com/ :P
[15:19] <dholbach> jono, remember the guitar-shaped swimming pool?
[15:19] <balloons> juju on DO +1
[15:19] <jcastro> smartboyhw, I own like most of those ikea things too ... and still got them wrong
[15:19] <mhall119> marcoceppi: but I only run Mint on my bread
[15:20] <mhall119> because I like Cinnamon
[15:20] <jono> dholbach, haha :-)
[15:20] <jcastro> http://24.media.tumblr.com/00a1c2008ba3cb8e36a3eaf759eb9a67/tumblr_mf2edageSA1qcbojfo1_500.gif
[15:21] <mhall119> dholbach: saw this a while ago and meant to send it to you: http://cubiclebot.com/funny/shazams-take-on-blender-noise/
[15:23] <jono> mhall119, dpm can we do a quick sync up?
[15:23] <dpm> jono, sure
[15:24] <jono> cool, setting it up
[15:24] <jono> dpm, mhall119 https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/caec43b3b3e986d55491dc60372b9b591b12df3b?hl=en
[16:42] <marcoceppi> jcastro: what's your leaf?
[16:42] <jcastro> what do you mean? last month?
[16:42] <jcastro> ooh, new report!
[16:43] <marcoceppi> jcastro: yeah, report just came out
[16:43] <jcastro> 27, 221 total
[16:43] <jcastro> man, the smoke detector is so lame
[16:43] <jcastro> I really wanted a normal home automation thing
[17:01] <jono> dpm, mhall119 one other thing
[17:01] <jono> can you reach out to the guy who is making http://iloveubuntu.net/ubuntutouch-chess-sees-new-improvements-work-progress and encourage him to get his first cut in the store
[17:01] <jono> it doesn't look done yet, but to know he has support
[17:01] <popey> that reminds me
[17:02] <popey> we should get checkers in
[17:02] <mhall119> popey: I've already reached out to Filippo
[17:03] <popey> coolio
[17:03] <mhall119> he's done 3 apps, checkers minesweeper and netwalk
[17:03] <dpm> jono, ok. mhall119 I'm about to call it a day, can I leave it in your hands to reach to the chess developer?
[17:03] <mhall119> dpm: yeah, I'll add it to my collection list
[17:03] <dpm> mhall119, good idea, thanks
[17:04] <jono> thanks mhall119
[17:04] <jono> man, Mir is working pretty damn good on the N4 :-)
[17:05] <mhall119> I know, I'm really happy with it
[17:05] <jono> and now they can focus on integration fixes :-)
[17:05] <mhall119> it's performance is much more consistent that surfaceflinger
[17:17] <dholbach> all right my friends
[17:17] <dholbach> calling it a day
[17:17] <dholbach> see you tomorrow!
[17:32] <popey> h/49
[18:46] <jono> mhall119, did you file a bug for the canvas issues in uDraw etc?
[18:47] <mhall119> jono: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1229287
[18:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1229287 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Drawing apps show only a black screen where drawable component should be" [High,Confirmed]
[18:47] <mhall119> it's not against uDraw specifically
[18:47] <jono> right
[18:47] <jono> I want to get this actioned
[18:56] <popey> jono: did you see the comment at the end of that bug from kaleo?
[19:22] <philipballew> jono, do you think you will have time in the next day or so for a meeting/hangout? It's fine either way. but figured I should confirm.
[20:00] <jono> popey, I did, but it still sounds like a bug
[20:00] <jono> if it works on desktop it should work on mobile without code changes
[20:00] <popey> wossat?
[20:01] <popey> oh, i see
[20:56] <jono> mhall119, where is the HTML tutorial on developer.ubuntu.com/apps/html-5/ ?
[23:15] <mhall119> jono: I don't think we have one yet
[23:30] <jono> mhall119, ok, we need to add this to the list
[23:30] <jono> we do have a tutorial in the cordova section
[23:30] <jono> but we need one in the general HTML section too
[23:31] <mhall119> yeah, it's on the list of things we need