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| * slangasek waves | 15:04 | |
| ev | hi | 15:05 |
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| * stgraber waves | 15:06 | |
| stokachu | slangasek: i dont have anything pressing today | 15:06 |
| ev | The list of things I've forgotten to do in the past several months now includes: enabling support for recoverable error reports server-side :-/ | 15:06 |
| ev | (RT 65174) | 15:06 |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:06 |
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| slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:07 |
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| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu) | 15:08 |
| slangasek | bdmurray xnox stgraber slangasek cjwatson barry jodh ev doko stokachu | 15:08 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: hello! | 15:08 |
| slangasek | stokachu: ack :) | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | bug triage | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | tested update-manager bug 1119427 | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | removed usage of gksu from ubuntu-release-upgrader - bug 1210649 | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | added phased-update knowledge to update-notifier - bug 1223321 | 15:08 |
| ubottu | bug 1119427 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with AttributeError in update(): 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'saveDistUpgrade'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1119427 | 15:08 |
| ubottu | bug 1210649 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Raring) "/usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/check-new-release-gtk:TypeError:on_button_upgrade_now_clicked:run:error:error:__init__:__init__:function" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1210649 | 15:08 |
| ubottu | bug 1223321 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "update-notifier notifies of phased-updates for which you may not be eligible" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1223321 | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | click chroot modifications | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | reviewed / approved P SRU of libreoffice | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | ⌁ done | 15:09 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: Are you finished with the chroot work? I think I was waiting for a response to my most recent comment before circling back | 15:09 |
| xnox | * emulator: | 15:09 |
| xnox | - adbd into android available out of the box | 15:09 |
| xnox | - serial into ubuntu available out of the box | 15:09 |
| xnox | - everything else is built and boots correctly | 15:09 |
| xnox | - emulator on the people.c.c is updated, but is kind of hand-build | 15:09 |
| xnox | (some patches are not in saucy) | 15:09 |
| xnox | - todo: /data/ is not mounted inside the android-lxc container | 15:09 |
| xnox | * bugs: | 15:09 |
| xnox | - fixed up u1 page bug in ubiquity (couldn't login/sign-up) | 15:09 |
| xnox | - putting spam plug into upstart-udev-bridge (and related debugging) | 15:09 |
| xnox | - todo: spam plug on the udev source in systemd-udevd | 15:09 |
| xnox | - fixing FTBFS in main | 15:10 |
| xnox | .. | 15:10 |
| stgraber | No fancy report today, fighting with dbus/kernel/lxc over in #ubuntu-touch (not sure why since it doesn't affect touch though ;)) ... | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: no, I was going to have a poke at it again today | 15:10 |
| stgraber | 15:10 | |
| stgraber | Quite a lot of upload queue reviews | 15:10 |
| stgraber | Looked into a couple of ubiquity bugs (xnox, what's the status on the webkit related one?) | 15:10 |
| stgraber | LXC code reviews and cherry-picked a bunch of bugfixes (including trying to sort out the dbus/apparmor mess introduced by recent kernels...) | 15:10 |
| stgraber | Added logging support to system-image | 15:10 |
| stgraber | Started to work on some of the changes required for ports support for system-image | 15:10 |
| stgraber | Some more touch related work (debugging udm, system-image, ...) | 15:10 |
| stgraber | (DONE) | 15:10 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: ok, cool | 15:11 |
| xnox | stgraber: right, it's on my todo list. but i don't think i'll get to it today. | 15:13 |
| stgraber | xnox: yeah, no worries, I kind of gave up on that one after I told cjwatson and slangasek I'd take care of it so I at least keep an eye on it to make sure we make progress (our initial guess was something related to logind I may have been able to help with, but now that it's clearly a webkit issue, I'm not too useful ;)) | 15:14 |
| xnox | stgraber: i see. | 15:15 |
| xnox | stgraber: my guess was to move loading up T&C webpage, only if/when people click to see it. Instead of on module import. Thus at that point we at least know if network is available and don't fail the install horibly. | 15:15 |
| slangasek | * working to try to reproduce bug #1234731 in upstart | 15:16 |
| slangasek | * being hamstrung by bug #1228406 | 15:16 |
| slangasek | * freeze reviews | 15:16 |
| ubottu | bug 1234731 in dbus (Ubuntu) "calling 'initctl set-env -g' from within an upstart job is lost" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234731 | 15:16 |
| slangasek | (done) | 15:16 |
| ubottu | bug 1228406 in linux (Ubuntu) "[LENOVO 3249CTO] suspend/resume failure" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1228406 | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | Lots of archive cleanup. NBS now zero, amd64 and armhf zero uninstallables, saucy_outdate_all.txt almost cleared, proposed-migration backlog improved, component-mismatches-proposed tidied up, fixed various build failures. | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | ARM64 porting. Lots of build supervision and scheduling. Loads of config.guess/config.sub updates. Fixed dlopen segfault in statically-linked programs which is harmless but confused the fault watcher we have to have in our builds at the moment. | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | Investigated bug 1237519. | 15:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1237519 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Grub2 fails to install to non-standard device path" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1237519 | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | Working on displaying Launchpad builder versions in the UI so that upgrades are slightly less painful to monitor. | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | To do: | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | * Finish reviewing and merging Brian's chroot management branch (carried over). | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | * Hunt through GRUB code to try to chase down bug 1229458 (carried over). | 15:17 |
| ubottu | bug 1229458 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grubnetx64.efi tftp client does not work over ipv6" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229458 | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | * Merge Steve's GRUB patch (in progress). | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | * Look for last-minute installer bugs to hoover up. | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | .. | 15:17 |
| cjwatson | (I can't take credit for all the archive cleanup obviously :) ) | 15:17 |
| barry | short week due to illness. | 15:17 |
| barry | system-image: LP: #1215586, LP: #1206588, LP: #1235975 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1215586 in Ubuntu system image "The u/i cannot handle the array-of-dictionaries update descriptions" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215586 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1206588 in Ubuntu system image "test_service_exits() can't run on system bus" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206588 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1235975 in Ubuntu system image "Unsafe file and directory permissions" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235975 | 15:18 |
| barry | done | 15:18 |
| stgraber | xnox: not sure if that'll be enough though, here I clearly had network access and ubiquity would work fine if started under sudo, so it seems like we've got a permission issue somewhere (write to cache, config, similar stuff?) | 15:18 |
| jodh | * upstart | 15:18 |
| jodh | - Fixed bug 1234898. | 15:18 |
| jodh | - Investigated bug 1235231. | 15:18 |
| jodh | - Investigated bug 1234743. | 15:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1234898 in upstart "upstart-local-bridge not handling all events sent to it" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234898 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1235231 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouth loses output to /dev/console (such as ci-info: messages)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235231 | 15:18 |
| jodh | - Investigating bug 1235649 - multiple issues: relates to 1234743 and | 15:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1234743 in linux (Ubuntu) "omapfb module floods system with udev events on samsung galaxy nexus" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234743 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1235649 in unity (Ubuntu Saucy) "uevent spam causes session upstart to consume massive amounts of memory on Ubuntu Touch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235649 | 15:18 |
| jodh | what looks to be an incorrect use of the D-Bus API (ongoing). | 15:18 |
| jodh | ಠ | 15:18 |
| xnox | stgraber: set a11y?! | 15:18 |
| xnox | (cause that's one thing that webview does) | 15:19 |
| xnox | jodh: i think mhr3 can be a dbus expert, he seems to be working a lot with e.g. for https://launchpad.net/dee | 15:19 |
| ev | - Chat with Rick on the 1SS move. | 15:20 |
| jodh | xnox: ack, thanks. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Chat with James on the 1SS move. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Call with Chris and Andy on getting a role account in canonistack for team | 15:20 |
| ev | projects. Chatted with Tom Haddon over the approach. Submitted an RT. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Call with Chris on the vanguard implementation. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Landing task force standups. | 15:20 |
| stgraber | xnox: could be | 15:20 |
| ev | - Work with Chris on getting OOPS support into lp:qa-dashboard. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Some light code review. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Chased Canonistack role account (RT 65080). | 15:20 |
| ev | - Debugging GNetworkMonitor waking up frequently with apw (LP: #991481). | 15:20 |
| ev | Suggestions welcome. | 15:20 |
| ev | - A few meetings with Alice on the move. | 15:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 991481 in Whoopsie "Constant dns traffic for daisy.ubuntu.com" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/991481 | 15:20 |
| stgraber | xnox: if sudo strips some of that from the environment, that may be the different | 15:20 |
| stgraber | *difference | 15:20 |
| ev | - Set up a project to manage the new canonistack role account: | 15:20 |
| ev | https://launchpad.net/ci-engineering-canonistack | 15:20 |
| ev | - Call with Rick, Larry, pinky, Herb, and James Troup on the 1SS move. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Catch up call with Chris. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Reviewed some small changes from deej to the daisy and daisy-retracer charms. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Investigated using apport-retrace for the touch images for lool. Chat with | 15:20 |
| ev | lool and pitti about how we can override UnreportableReason. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Chased jjo on https://rt.admin.canonical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=64590. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Mail to the CI team, explaining the new Canonistack role account. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Arranged a meeting with the whole CI team to discuss the 1SS move. | 15:20 |
| xnox | stgraber: cause ubiquity-dm does process and sets/unsets a11y & modifies gsettings which wouldn't be there, if boot straight to desktop. | 15:20 |
| ev | - Mail to ubuntu-engineering, letting them know how they can engage the CI | 15:21 |
| ev | engineering team. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Worked with Chris and Alex to further clarify our responsibilities in the | 15:21 |
| ev | wiki. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Call with Alex, Steve, Leann, Michael, and Colin on the landing spreadsheet | 15:21 |
| ev | and what we're doing post-release. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Created RT 65144 for setting up oops.canonical.com for reports.qa.ubuntu.com. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Mail to ubuntu-engineering explaining how to retrace crashes. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Chased retracers in prodstack. Nearly there! | 15:21 |
| ev | - Working with the AUS folks to find an acceptable meeting time. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Small review and merge from Steve for daisy armhf retracer config. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Helping the CI team chase a LXC/apparmor issue around dbus. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Chasing up statsd RT with alexlist, psivaa, and vila. Waiting for init script | 15:21 |
| ev | fixes from jjo. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Chased up oops.canonical.com reporting from dashboard.qa.ubuntu.com (RT 65144) | 15:21 |
| ev | - Putting Larry and Rick in charge of lab access and discussing using IS' LDAP, | 15:21 |
| ev | per Alex's request. | 15:21 |
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| ev | - Chasing up why we're not seeing the autopilot documentation on | 15:21 |
| ev | http://utah.readthedocs.org/en/latest/. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Helped jjo debug statsd configuration. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Fixes to lp:daisy to support recoverable problems server-side. | 15:21 |
| ev | - Investigated bugs in the retracers from deej that turned about to be wrong | 15:21 |
| ev | package versions in the deployed charms. | 15:21 |
| ev | (done) | 15:21 |
| ev | I think there's more, but I forgot to write down whatever it was I did last week | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | oh, one other thing on my to-do, the germinate run at the end of the publisher is crashing with something arm64-related and I need to investigate why ASAP | 15:22 |
| slangasek | jodh: do you have all the remote access to a mako device that you need for reproducing the problem in place on the phone? | 15:22 |
| jodh | slangasek: yes, I do now thanks. | 15:25 |
| slangasek | jodh: ok, good | 15:25 |
| slangasek | doko: your turn :) | 15:25 |
| doko | - one more last (later?) gcc-4.8 update for saucy, fixing wrong code-gen for gmp and nss | 15:25 |
| doko | - update all our cross binutils and compilers | 15:25 |
| doko | - fixing build failures, ftbfs looks good (main), the test rebuild too besides some texinfo related ftbfs | 15:25 |
| doko | - Address remaing MIRs | 15:25 |
| doko | - Trying to prepare a Go meetup during Linaro Connect together with mwhudson and some google Go devs | 15:25 |
| doko | - Prepare an AArch64 test chroot | 15:25 |
| doko | - AArch64 upload orgies | 15:25 |
| doko | - last Thu was national holiday, was sick on Fri | 15:25 |
| doko | (done) | 15:25 |
| lool | ev: pitti suggested something simple for forcing report on .crash | 15:28 |
| slangasek | doko: so I didn't get back to you on your question about wrong code generation on armhf | 15:28 |
| ev | hm? | 15:28 |
| slangasek | I think it's too late (and was already too late) to do much about this before release, besides release note it | 15:28 |
| lool | ev: just remove the unreportable reason with vi and submit it (ugly, but works); he didn't want an official flag as this approach is frowned upon in the first place | 15:28 |
| doko | yeah | 15:28 |
| ev | lool: seems reasonable | 15:29 |
| slangasek | doko: I was puzzled by something in your mail, you said that it affected 64-bit math, but the test case for it is only using 32-bit ints? | 15:29 |
| doko | was it? hmm ... just chatted with linora tcwg guys | 15:30 |
| slangasek | yeah | 15:30 |
| slangasek | so if it affects 32-bit math, that worries me a lot more :-) Yet the problem was only reported in things like gmp | 15:30 |
| slangasek | and if we had a widespread problem with 32-bit math I would expect everything to be on the floor, and it's not | 15:31 |
| doko | yes, I add the list of packages that apparently were affected | 15:31 |
| slangasek | those affected packages were all ones that caught the bug in the testsuite though, right? | 15:31 |
| doko | yes, I'm sure about nss and the cyrpto package, didn't check the others | 15:32 |
| slangasek | so the part that worries me is the packages that might be affected but *don't* have test suites | 15:33 |
| doko | exactly | 15:33 |
| slangasek | but I don't think we currently can quantify this well enough to release note it | 15:33 |
| slangasek | "some math might be broken" is scaremongering, not a useful release note | 15:33 |
| doko | well, it's not broken anymore | 15:33 |
| slangasek | doko: can you work with the Linaro guys to try to identify the scope of this? Any chance that there's a way to search the archive for packages that include the wrong code? | 15:34 |
| slangasek | or maybe they know that this is a very rare corner case that only affects heavy-duty math libs | 15:34 |
| slangasek | right, it's not broken for anything built with the current compiler | 15:34 |
| bdmurray | the ubuntu security team has code for searching archive packages | 15:34 |
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| doko | slangasek, the corner case was the issue which did show up in mpfr. right, will check again, but afaiu just scanning the assembler for some instructions isn't possible | 15:35 |
| doko | will do that at connect | 15:35 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: yeah, what doko said, the hard part is scanning the binary for assembly sequences | 15:35 |
| doko | xnox, did you feel disturbed? ;-P never typing that much during meetings | 15:35 |
| slangasek | I know there are tools out there for scanning for instructions, but perhaps in this case it's too difficult to craft a proper match for the breakage | 15:36 |
| slangasek | anyway | 15:36 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:36 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| slangasek | ? | 15:36 |
| xnox | doko: I use push-to-talk such that I don't make noise =) | 15:36 |
| * xnox ponders if Saucy Salamander, will be followed by Tasty Tintin | 15:37 | |
| bdmurray | I could use some help with bug 1024590 | 15:38 |
| ubottu | bug 1024590 in update-manager (Ubuntu Saucy) "update-manager crashed with AttributeError in _on_download_changed(): 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_value'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024590 | 15:38 |
| slangasek | xnox: a tintin is an animal? | 15:39 |
| mdeslaur | tasty turkey | 15:40 |
| barry | tangy tadpole | 15:42 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: how can we help? | 15:42 |
| slangasek | reading the bug log, it seems you're already pretty far down the rabbit hole | 15:43 |
| bdmurray | and then I got stuck | 15:43 |
| slangasek | anyone have some spare cycles to help bdmurray with this? | 15:44 |
| slangasek | <crickets> | 15:46 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: I can try to take a look this afternoon, but no promises :/ | 15:46 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: okay, no problem | 15:47 |
| slangasek | anything else today? | 15:47 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:48 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Oct 10 15:48:44 2013 UTC. | 15:48 |
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| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-10-10-15.06.html | 15:48 |
| slangasek | thanks :) | 15:48 |
| barry | thanks! | 15:48 |
| stgraber | thanks | 15:48 |
| jodh | thanks | 15:56 |
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| === Maple[] is now known as RDisBestPony | ||
| === RDisBestPony is now known as Maple[] | ||
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