=== _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [07:27] Saviq: hi! I'm testing unity8 trunk, which should be improving the testsuite, but I'm getting the usual 21/22 errors with phablet-test-run -n unity8 - is this correct, ie. are the improvements to be found outside unity8's AP tests, or how is it? [07:28] Mirv, no, no unity8 test improvement, unless you run each test separately [07:28] Mirv, second and subsequent test in a run don't get input for some reason - dunno why yet [07:28] Mirv, but it will get webbrowser app tests to 100% [07:28] Mirv, and probably some others, too [07:28] Saviq: aha, webbrowser_app 100% to be expected, check! :) I'll try out [07:29] Mirv, with the newly released unity-mir, that is [07:29] I like how it nowadays recovers after -n run to normal operation [07:29] Saviq: yep, I've #90 which just build + unity8 only updated [07:30] I still need network over usb since I can't type the password to wlan dialog [07:30] Mirv, another important bug to test https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1234903 [07:30] Ubuntu bug 1234903 in telephony-service (Ubuntu Saucy) "[mir-only] On incoming calls the greeter remains and dialer-app is not started" [Critical,In progress] [07:31] Mirv, ah, but that requires telephony service and dialer-app [07:35] Saviq: I can't test that, but I'm happy with no regressions and if that webbrowser AP truly works it's awesome [07:36] the latest #90 test shows 36/39 failing on webbrowser, so let's see with updated unity8 [07:48] Saviq: success, great [07:52] Cimi: Saviq: what you say on https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/music-video_renderers/+merge/190198/comments/436671 ? [08:03] oh my, the instructions on https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1237208 are a huge "what???" [08:03] Ubuntu bug 1237208 in Unity 8 "Launcher can get into an unusable state when attempting to unlock the screen." [Undecided,In progress] [08:03] lots of steps :D [08:14] Saviq: published current trunk. === iahmad is now known as iahmad|afk [08:24] Mirv, awesome, thanks! [08:25] tsdgeos, I agree [08:26] tsdgeos, Cimi, we can have a BaseTileStyle that the others inherit from - even using Loaders like the Preview does, WDYT? [08:27] Saviq: i'd say it makes sense to me [08:28] Saviq: we decided we merged manually, right? [08:29] tsdgeos, yes [08:29] ok [08:29] Saviq: so i'm going to test https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity8/use-volume-action/+merge/190292 now that needs a new indicator-sound, what's up with that? [08:29] i.e. when do we merge that in? [08:30] wait for the indicator-sound to be released? [08:30] tsdgeos, I'm on this, sorry [08:30] tsdgeos, no, we merge [08:30] ah [08:30] ok [08:30] you do it then [08:30] * Saviq claims [08:30] done [08:31] tsdgeos, if you could look at https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-frequent-app-ids/+merge/190161 [08:31] sure [08:31] tsdgeos, I have a package for url-dispatcher - but it didn't work for me [08:31] i'll create my own [08:31] just in case [08:31] tsdgeos, i.e. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6216036/ [08:31] Saviq, we're still on manual merge-mode, if we top-approve a unity8 branch, right? [08:32] MacSlow, yes [08:34] tsdgeos, OTOH [08:34] tsdgeos, Cimi, we need to take a step back on all the Tiles anyway [08:34] why? [08:34] tsdgeos, 'cause they're a mess ;) [08:34] right [08:35] that's what i was complaining about :D [08:35] tsdgeos, there's no common API, they just all have the same props [08:35] tsdgeos, yeah, but those changes probably don't warrant a rehaul that we need [08:35] especially not on freeze day ;) [08:35] sure [08:36] tsdgeos, Cimi, so go for it - but with reason [08:37] larsu, will you be bumping indicator-sound version for the "volume" action? [08:37] Saviq, anything I can do to persuade someone to look at the ext. snap-decision part2 branches... the wifi-selection is sitting there working for two weeks now :) [08:37] MacSlow, thing is... no one would be using it anyway [08:38] MacSlow, so I'd rather leave it post-release, k? [08:38] MacSlow, basically I'd like to refrain from merging stuff that won't show in 13.10 at all [08:38] Saviq, oh... I thought it was right after simunlock priority-wise... [08:38] Saviq, nm then [08:38] MacSlow, not that I know of - please correct me if I'm wrong [08:39] MacSlow, but I didn't think there's anything that would trigger it currently [08:39] Saviq, well there's been so much up/down/left/right with ext. snap-decisions that I might got things mixed up... [08:42] mzanetti, ping [08:42] Saviq, tsdgeos I don't understand [08:42] Saviq, tsdgeos this is our toolkit in the end [08:42] Cimi, it's not about that [08:42] Cimi, it's the fact that *Style.qml are almost the same [08:43] Cimi, where they can be inheriting from a BaseTileStyle.qml or something [08:43] Saviq, you won't save much [08:44] few are not using ubuntushape [08:44] few have multiple lines [08:44] only reused stuff is the properties [08:45] Cimi, which is one thing we should make common [08:45] which I didn't love it either [08:45] Cimi, either way - I'm not hung up on it, but we do need a rehaul at some point in the near future [08:45] Saviq: com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-facebook/webapp-gmail ? [08:45] facebook+gmail? [08:45] tsdgeos, wrong, of course [08:45] Saviq, only thing I thought is to rebase them under this base stylebla bla [08:45] Saviq, which is an empty item with a set of properties [08:46] tsdgeos, pushed [08:46] Cimi, that's not necessarily the case [08:47] Saviq: you can have a complete tile with all the stuff in it, and then enable/disable them as needed, or have building blocks that help you building the tile without that much c&p, no? [08:47] Saviq, only common thing always is one label [08:47] Cimi, if we split the Tile into image, title and subtitle [08:47] Saviq, we could make the description follow that label [08:47] Cimi, and use Loaders for all three [08:47] Cimi, we can mix'n'match as needed [08:47] Saviq, isn't too many loaders? [08:48] Cimi, not necessarily worse [08:48] Saviq, the delegate itself is a loader [08:48] Cimi, either way - not now, ok? [08:48] ok [08:49] Cimi, tsdgeos, if you can think of a non-invasive way to abstract the props for now - go for it, but let's not do a whole rework today [08:50] Saviq: same error with the facebook thing [08:50] Saviq: maybe the url is not the right one? [08:51] tsdgeos, that's what ted told me yesterday, but if you can look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/url-dispatcher/trunk.13.10/revision/34 [08:51] tsdgeos, and see what we should use instead [08:51] yeah [08:51] on it [08:52] tsdgeos, url-dispatcher appid://com.ubuntu.calculator/calculator/0.1.3 should work, AFAIK - but doesn't [08:52] greyback, o/ back to work? [08:52] Saviq: yep [09:04] greyback, got one for you: bug #1237850 [09:04] bug 1237850 in Unity 8 "Apps started via upstart don't participate in window management correctly" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1237850 [09:04] greyback, please confirm the behaviour on latest image + dist-upgrade [09:04] Saviq: yessir [09:05] * Saviq reboots [09:10] Saviq, did you read what I was proposing yesterday for the carousel with small item count? === iahmad|afk is now known as iahmad [09:18] Saviq, that's the same as launching apps from indicator menus... [09:19] system settings opened from the top indicators behave bad [09:22] om26er, yeah - they're launched via upstart [09:22] om26er, same for anything that goes through url dispatcher [09:23] Saviq, right. Important bug indeed. [09:23] hope we get the opening animation thing sorted for this case as well :) [09:23] Cimi, I think I did, but it was too late for me to understand [09:23] Saviq, you have backlog? :) [09:23] I don't :P [09:25] Saviq, getRenderer will choose a root Item that will load the renderers [09:25] Saviq, we will send this item the rendererId [09:25] Saviq, internally it will decide the final renderer to load? [09:26] mhr3_, re your "let's not do count-based things..." carousel behaves really bad when there's not enough items [09:26] Saviq, are these the safest flash flags to use currently? phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel devel-proposed [09:26] nic-doffay, yes [09:26] Saviq, cool ta [09:27] nic-doffay, well, safest maybe not - but the ones that you should be using ;) [09:27] errrr [09:27] * tsdgeos weirds out [09:28] Saviq: if i compile my own url-dispatcher it works [09:28] tsdgeos, HUH [09:28] so building the package somehow breaks it? [09:28] ¿? [09:28] where's THE TED when you need'im [09:29] hmmm [09:29] actually not that [09:30] if i run url-dispatcher as my user it works [09:30] Saviq, so? :) [09:30] Saviq, do you have better ideas? [09:30] * tsdgeos is confused [09:30] Cimi, you'll have to translate that to me ;) [09:30] Saviq, or let the carousel file load [09:30] * tsdgeos reboots the phone [09:31] Saviq, getRenderer is a function we use in the scope view to load the renderer [09:31] Saviq, but we don't have the count yet, the renderer has it [09:31] Cimi, yes [09:31] Saviq, the renderer doesn't know the rendererId because it's not sent [09:32] Saviq, so if we give the renderer the rendererId property, we can decide later [09:32] o/ [09:32] hey mzanetti [09:32] Saviq, otherwise we could load this from the carousel [09:32] ciao mzanetti [09:32] Cimi, well, don't we know the count? [09:32] Saviq, we know the count only from the renderer I think [09:32] Saviq, model.count is the count of categories [09:32] Cimi, no, we know the count from the *model* [09:33] Saviq, and you said this is not during search [09:33] not dinamic [09:33] Cimi, yes, but each category has a results model [09:33] Saviq, is this dynamic? [09:33] Cimi, how else? [09:34] Cimi, it's the model we take the actual results from [09:34] Saviq, is it worth all the flickering and weird switches when adding results will be slow? [09:34] Saviq: i'm ultra confused now, it works fine after a reboot :D [09:34] tsdgeos, oh, that's interesting [09:34] Saviq: maybe you did not reboot the phone after installing your packages and me neither? [09:34] tsdgeos, right of course... [09:34] Saviq, my point is just that at this point i wouldn't want to open that can of worms [09:34] and the old url-dispatcher was still there? [09:34] tsdgeos, it's a dbus service [09:35] mhr3_, on one hand I know what you mean [09:35] mhr3_, but on the other you can't even activate anything in the carousel if there's only one result :/ [09:35] or count < 5 or something [09:35] Saviq: tbh i'd expect the package insatll to start/stop the service, like the apache packages do [09:35] Saviq, fix carousel then? :) [09:35] tsdgeos, it probably should indeed [09:35] mhr3_, it's a feature, not a bug :P [09:36] Saviq: anyway, works, so approving + mergin [09:36] Saviq, of course it is :P [09:36] tsdgeos, cool [09:36] mhr3_, it was never meant to support a low number of items [09:36] Saviq: did I overhear correctly the other day that there was a branch for unity that allowed an application to be launched so that it pops up over the greeter (i.e. for testing apps)? [09:36] veebers, already merged [09:36] veebers, just launch an app - it'll swipe the greeter away [09:36] Saviq: oh awesome, is there any special magic needed to get it working? [09:36] Saviq: ah, this is using upstart to launch it? [09:37] Saviq, i don't buy that really, just make it static when there's no enough items [09:37] veebers, well, anything, really... should work with --desktop_file_hint, too [09:37] so one can't just do: qmlscene test.qml . . .? [09:37] oh cool [09:37] MacSlow: changed the simunlock example. [09:37] dednick, taking a look now... [09:38] veebers, there's a BUT [09:38] BUTT [09:38] veebers, that's not gonna stay like that - we can't be unlocking the phone just because an app was launched [09:38] double T. thats a big one. [09:38] Saviq, we also said that when searching we never use the carousel [09:39] Cimi, that's right! mhr3_ ↑ [09:39] Saviq: agreed! [09:39] Saviq: oh lol, look at the commit log, we got a release from 420 with changelog commited at 423 [09:39] 424 [09:39] Saviq: thanks for that I'll have a play around now [09:39] wonder if that's going to break later [09:39] Saviq, Cimi, what makes you think surfacing is completely static? [09:39] tsdgeos, yeah, it's tricky [09:40] tsdgeos, no, it's on purpose [09:40] just try to copy media over mtp and you'll see it isnt [09:40] Saviq: ok [09:40] tsdgeos, if stuff merges between merger.start and merger.finish [09:41] tsdgeos, now even more - 'cause it takes longer for manual publishing - and that's when the changelog is synced back [09:42] mhr3_, yeah, I understand what you mean [09:42] but am not convinced that this is "fixing" the carousel at all :/ [09:43] Saviq: hmm, doesn't seem to work for me, perhaps I don't have the right version. I'll ask someone to check it out over my night time. [09:43] veebers, not released yet indeed [09:44] veebers, bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/trunk/revision/422 [09:44] Saviq, ultimately what i'm saying is that taking count in account when deciding on renderer is going to cause issues, and i'd rather deal with those at some other time than 1week before release [09:44] Saviq: ah ok, I'll let some others know to expect it etc. [09:44] awesome, thanks again Saviq [09:45] dednick, I'll do a test on the device before I merge [09:50] dednick, something is broken... I just merged your unity8 branch with trunk and notifications no longer work... [09:50] Saviq, anyway, can we merge cimi's grid fixes? functionally it's 100% according to design now [09:51] and will leave me with just one gripe - video carousel [09:51] mhr3_, you said not [09:51] mhr3_, not on the tablet [09:51] ? [09:51] mhr3_, tsdgeos and Cimi are on it [09:51] Cimi, i said it's weird in tablet mode [09:51] Cimi, but there's no design for tablet [09:54] MacSlow: what do you mean by "not work"? as in nothing? [09:54] dednick, yes... no notifications at all [09:54] dednick, just checking plain lp:unity8 and lp:unity-notifications ... [09:54] um, well i didnt change that much in unity8. doesnt sound right [09:55] dednick, your set of branches worked before I merged trunk to your unity8 branch... [09:56] Saviq, tsdgeos mhr3_ let me first "fix" the tablet [09:56] Cimi, as you wish, but phone-wise it's as specced [09:56] mhr3_, don't like half baked stuff [10:00] MacSlow: you testing on desktop? trunk merged works for me. You remember to kill notify-osd? [10:00] dednick, no... I was testing too many things at once... [10:01] dednick, had still another unity8-shell window open that was hidden behind other windows... [10:01] dednick, works fine with trunk merged... now testing on thed evice [10:01] * MacSlow wipes sweat away [10:12] ok, now it better on the tablet mhr3_ tsdgeos [10:14] yep, looks better now [10:14] tsdgeos, I'd probably elide right for video too [10:14] label [10:14] Saviq, having issues with read only folders after the flash, what's the fix again? [10:15] nic-doffay, dab shell touch /userdata/.writable_image [10:15] nic-doffay, adb [10:15] nic-doffay, then reboot [10:16] Cimi, anything that could be done about the text wrapping in http://imgur.com/skPdL9M ? [10:16] Cimi, cheers [10:16] mhr3_, yeah, using word-wrap now [10:17] mhr3_, but resident evil screws [10:17] Cimi, yea, that's why i'm asking [10:17] is it possible to word wrap + ellipsize? [10:17] mhr3_, wrap yeah [10:19] mhr3_, Cimi no, we need to force wrap in that case [10:19] Saviq: any bugs floating about? [10:19] Cimi, so Text.Wrap [10:19] Saviq, yeah [10:19] Saviq, wasn't thinking of someone insane to have such long names [10:19] Cimi, we should be using Wrap everywhere , TBH [10:20] dednick, there't this one assigned to me I haven't gotten to yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1092976 [10:20] Saviq, yeah [10:20] Ubuntu bug 1092976 in Unity 8 "[shell] shouldn't animate lenses switching when opening dash from locked state" [Low,Triaged] [10:20] pushed [10:21] dednick, can't run your unity8 branch merged with trunk on the device right now... getting build-errors regarding to Qt5XmlPetternsConfig... no clue right now... trying to dig into it [10:21] MacSlow: build-dep? [10:21] Saviq, having more issue trying to run on device after flash ,http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6217416/ [10:21] any clues? [10:21] mhr3_, so, veto from your side on dynamic renderers? ;) [10:21] nic-doffay, guess [10:22] Saviq, for this week, yes [10:22] nic-doffay, why do you usually have network problems? [10:22] nic-doffay, deploy network [10:23] dednick, that exists with errors [10:23] Saviq, he lives in a cave like MacSlow :P [10:23] mhr3_, thing is... "fixing" carousel is not gonna be easy [10:23] mhr3_, it's not about just making it static - you'll be clicking items behind other items :/ [10:23] mhr3_, we'd have to spread it or something [10:23] Saviq, isn't the -s supposed to set everything up? [10:23] nic-doffay, no, not network [10:23] Saviq, ah [10:24] nic-doffay, CODING: - make sure your device is connected to a network [10:24] because the device keeps on switching networks! [10:24] nic-doffay, phablet-network [10:24] nic-doffay, it deploys your laptop network on the device [10:24] Saviq, i don't think it's so critical for now, can remain in current state imo [10:25] mhr3_, ok, it's on you ;P [10:25] my phone seems to love switching to open networks which dont actually work [10:25] dednick, my phone gets stuck in a boot loop when it's plugged in on start. [10:25] £$£"Q$ problems [10:25] Saviq, afterall simple fix - copy more media :) [10:26] dednick, Saviq: any idea http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6217428/ [10:27] MacSlow: dist-upgrade. [10:27] MacSlow, yeah, update at least [10:27] Saviq: so i guess for the tile's we're good as it is and we'll look for a "better" solution later? [10:27] tsdgeos, yeah [10:27] * greyback moving to office [10:28] Cimi: ok, so what are the differences i should be seeing? [10:28] tsdgeos, where? [10:30] Cimi: with your tile changes [10:30] https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/music-video_renderers/+merge/190198 [10:30] tsdgeos, look at music and video lens [10:30] what's the difference of old vs new i should see on the phone [10:30] is there a list of how it should look [10:30] tsdgeos, https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1X3_G6reCpcFJxzxn1Xtv9wK5n3-wOW-6z2l0qSZ8-sg/edit [10:30] tsdgeos, here is a spec [10:30] ok [10:30] tsdgeos, https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/YJsbwT4BhY1HuNX9vaLwtOruPFxSRVWs8zIcVoqHUTLFdi4ETM3SUDrJKb0sHn3AOoh7TFnGSos7MidzXW5fbgKLwcfYQRDjOXvUU3R8be6s-z4dYfLLSUM1Nts [10:31] tsdgeos, https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/DiFH5zJxUPhXES9dICX4ydlmQzpkKFMNeJlq3NsPhPIUAzbAH8XjX4YlZ0eii1w5csbAX2ZqnW9l6bjLSDzzd8Y1oCJf2qKzJYZ49lDeg5dPDbCiCEI-3eyi8Fs [10:31] tsdgeos, these are the changes - http://imgur.com/qAgx9jD [10:31] Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1092976 . Doesnt seem to reset to home lens anymore. My unlock just stays on current lens. Is supposed to go to home? [10:31] Ubuntu bug 1092976 in Unity 8 "[shell] shouldn't animate lenses switching when opening dash from locked state" [Low,Triaged] [10:32] mhr3_, that wallpaper looks so bad on the phone [10:33] dednick, tap on Dash icon in launcher [10:33] dednick, should go to Home indede [10:33] Cimi, meh, some aspects of convergence are good, some are not [10:33] *indeed [10:33] ahh. i should read... [10:34] dednick, yes! [10:36] Saviq, I think there's still an issue with the setup and permissions: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6217448/ [10:37] nic-doffay, that's permissions on *your* host [10:37] Saviq, yeah [10:37] Saviq, will it affect the setup? [10:37] nic-doffay, the script doesn't touch those - you need to fix perms on ~/.ssh/known_hosts [10:37] nic-doffay, it might [10:37] nic-doffay, the "cannot remove..." is fixed by tsdgeos's branch [10:38] hmmm [10:38] now that you say, i'm not sure i removed the delete [10:38] of the file [10:38] nic-doffay: anyway, appreciated if you or anyone else review the branch :D [10:43] tsdgeos, sure [10:43] tsdgeos, if you send me a link I'll get to it today. [10:43] tsdgeos, shall we merge the unrevert and thus, force the fix to Qt? ;) [10:43] Cimi: doesn't it look a bit weird for music with no title (or author, not sure what is missing) [10:44] Cimi: want a photo of the thing? [10:44] Saviq: up to you :D [10:44] tsdgeos, no album [10:44] tsdgeos, well, let's keep it ugly [10:44] Cimi: why? [10:44] tsdgeos, so you learn to add title [10:44] *album [10:44] you're joking [10:44] tsdgeos, nope [10:45] Cimi: ok [10:45] tsdgeos, also [10:45] then get someone to approve your branch [10:45] and get someone to fix the internet [10:45] tsdgeos, I think it's important to keep same position [10:45] tsdgeos, so you know the first row is always album [10:45] tsdgeos, and second row artist [10:45] because i'm not sure how smartness will teach me to fix the "popular online" albums not being there [10:45] shall i hack into whatever is giving me the data to make it look nice? [10:46] or can i have a phone that doesn't give me ugly stuff ? [10:46] i'd prefer the second [10:46] tsdgeos, will still be ugly imho [10:46] tsdgeos, even if you move the text one line above [10:46] mhr3_: hey hey! [10:46] tsdgeos, it's still a mess without the album ttle [10:46] Cimi: so you say everything is in the same line? [10:46] alecu: are you around for a nice regression game as well? ;) [10:47] tsdgeos, I'd say artist is always second line [10:47] Cimi: it's not if the album has two lines, no? [10:48] tsdgeos, it's always second in priority [10:48] tsdgeos, so you learn that the line is empty because the album is empty [10:48] tsdgeos, not because the album title is "Bob Marley" [10:48] didrocks, uh oh [10:48] Cimi: can't i learn that because it's non bold? [10:49] didrocks, what did i do? [10:49] tsdgeos, it's an easy fix though, just putting everything inside a column [10:49] mhr3_: a lot of mean things! just back and you are already in the line for shooting :p [10:49] mhr3_: more seriously, it seems that between image 89 and 90, we have "more suggestions" category randomly disappearing [10:50] (for the apps) [10:50] tsdgeos, but I hate we're using services that don't give us data [10:50] didrocks, fix for that was merged in click scope yesterday [10:50] tsdgeos, it'll always gonna look ugly [10:50] mhr3_: do you have any idea where we should start having a look? I don't have any crash [10:50] oh oh [10:50] let me look [10:50] didrocks, rev73 [10:51] mhr3_: excellent! [10:51] didrocks, but updating click means removing unity-lens-applications [10:51] otherwise there'll be duplicates [10:52] mhr3_: removing, like, removing? [10:52] dednick, Saviq: while testing current branches lp:~nick-dedekind/unity-notifications/actionless-menumodel-snapdecision lp:~nick-dedekind/unity8/simunlock.dialog I saw the osk not receiving any taps... but they all fell through onto the window below. [10:52] or taking latest u-l-a? [10:52] didrocks, yes, like removing from the image [10:52] MacSlow, window below or the shell? [10:52] Cimi: honestly http://picpaste.com/pics/IMG_00000598_edit-HLXvhQjK.1381402335.jpg looks weird as hell to me [10:52] didrocks, click does it's job fully now [10:52] hum [10:52] unity8 deps on it, right? [10:53] Saviq, no... it fell onto the shell... and not been consumed/seen by the osk [10:53] tsdgeos, looks bad [10:53] didrocks, ubuntu-touch does [10:53] tsdgeos, I'd say let's fix visually but not now [10:53] only recommends, so good enough for now [10:53] ok, I can handle it [10:53] didrocks, 135 in landing plan [10:53]