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| scottb | I just did an apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade on my Saucy box, rebooted and desktop doesn't load up | 03:05 |
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| scottb | anyone else see that problem | 03:05 |
| scottb | its a bit odd, I see crashes that tell can't be reported due to obsolete packages installed -- unity, compiz packages, dbus packages etc, but apt thinks things are at the latest version | 03:08 |
| wilee-nilee | scottb, You install proprietary graphics per chance and get a kernel upgrade? | 03:08 |
| scottb | wilee-nilee, no proprietary graphics -- older Intel chipset uses i915 driver | 03:12 |
| scottb | wilee-nilee, kernel version is 3.11.0-12-generic | 03:13 |
| scottb | wilee-nilee, kernel version is 3.11.0-12-generic -- x86_64 | 03:14 |
| wilee-nilee | scottb, You get any held packages in the apt-get commands? | 03:15 |
| scottb | wilee-nilee, no -- apt-get update finishes fine, apt-get upgrade reports nothing to do, no errors | 03:17 |
| wilee-nilee | scottb, I would try the previous kernel from grub, might be a bad kernel was it in the upgrade? | 03:19 |
| scottb | wilee-nilee, none of the kernels lets the desktop come up | 03:47 |
| scottb | wilee-nilee, the window manager isn't starting | 03:50 |
| scottb | wilee-nilee, ctrl+alt+t gives me a terminal with no window decorations | 03:50 |
| wilee-nilee | scottb, Are you getting to the desktop but are missing the panels? | 03:57 |
| scottb | wilee-nilee, get to the login screen, login, then the screen is blank | 03:58 |
| scottb | ctrl+alt+t gives me a terminal, try running unity | 03:59 |
| wilee-nilee | scottb, but the backdrop is there, and you can open a terminal with ctrl-alt-t? | 03:59 |
| scottb | unity crashes, get apport window, which eventually gives me a chrome instance | 03:59 |
| wilee-nilee | not sure really | 04:00 |
| wilee-nilee | its still in development I would just reinstall it if it were me, its not for regular use as of yet | 04:01 |
| scottb | wilee-nilee, no backdrop | 04:01 |
| scottb | wilee-nilee, yup, just wondered if anyone had seen that problem | 04:01 |
| wilee-nilee | You could try a daily and see if it is the same | 04:01 |
| scottb | I'll just reboot into my 13.04 instance, and grab the daily and reinstall | 04:02 |
| scottb | wilee-nilee, thanks for trying :), its midnight here, off to bed now | 04:02 |
| wilee-nilee | sleep well | 04:03 |
| dariusc93 | do anyone know if saucy daily build ever changed or is it stuck at the final beta build? | 04:30 |
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| icmpv6 | hi | 06:14 |
| icmpv6 | ubuntu 13.10 final beta, screen flashes bright on startup before desktop is shown. how do i remove that | 06:14 |
| NuSuey | is there no way how to get the fans be quiet - on the open source video drivers, with the hybrid video card? :o gets so loud :/ | 06:17 |
| icmpv6 | louder than the club? | 06:18 |
| NuSuey | what club :P | 06:19 |
| icmpv6 | 50 cent-in da club | 06:32 |
| Guest3903 | someone around who could help me with a ubiquity issue? | 06:36 |
| Guest3903 | this is the issue i'm facing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1238446 | 06:37 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1238446 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity is stuck after "Prepare" step" [Undecided,New] | 06:37 |
| icmpv6 | nope | 06:37 |
| floryn90 | hi everyone | 07:33 |
| floryn90 | will be a rc release of saucy ? | 07:33 |
| floryn90 | !roadmap | 07:34 |
| Ian_Corne | don't think they do RC's anymore | 08:09 |
| psalden | hey guys there's a .crash file in /var/crash that closely relates to a suspend/resume bug I'm experiencing; I think I accidentally clicked away the report dialog when it first came up, is there any way to bring it back or report the bug otherwise? | 08:13 |
| Rory | Is it safe/ready to use fglrx in Saucy yet? | 08:25 |
| psalden | apparently I can just apport-bug <crash>, anyway thank you | 08:35 |
| BluesKaj_ | Hey folks | 10:57 |
| Rory | Hello BluesKaj_ | 11:08 |
| BluesKaj_ | hi Rory | 11:09 |
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| Caelum | Hello, in saucy I can't seem to turn off screen locking, I disabled it in sysprefs and in gconf-editor, but it still locks on screen sleep | 11:32 |
| Caelum | I am using cinnamon btw | 11:35 |
| icmpv6 | install caffeine | 11:53 |
| bazhang | !behelpful | icmpv6 | 12:00 |
| ubottu | icmpv6: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes. | 12:00 |
| icmpv6 | do you know what caffeine is? | 12:01 |
| icmpv6 | with your tiny brain, i dont think so | 12:03 |
| Caelum | caffeine looks great for something like an htpc | 12:05 |
| Caelum | in my case, this worked: gsettings set org.cinnamon.desktop.screensaver lock-enabled false | 12:06 |
| Caelum | now, I just need to figure out why unattended-upgrade chokes | 12:06 |
| Caelum | worked fine before I dist-upgraded to saucy | 12:07 |
| Caelum | anyone have unattended upgrades working in saucy? | 12:14 |
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| TOM_otakux | HI, a question about plasma-nm | 13:56 |
| Rory | where? | 13:57 |
| TOM_otakux | when i using the ubuntu 13.10 and update hte neworkmanagement to the plasma-nm | 13:57 |
| TOM_otakux | the widget is gone, so does the whole settings | 13:57 |
| TOM_otakux | *the | 13:58 |
| BluesKaj | TOM_otakux. that's a bug in 13.10 , update and upgrade and the plasma-nm should reinstall | 13:59 |
| TOM_otakux | so is that fixed ? | 13:59 |
| BluesKaj | TOM_otakux. then you can find it by typing net in the panel widget search | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | yeah > I just fixed mine | 14:00 |
| TOM_otakux | because i have tried just about 30 minutes before | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | you were about 5mins too early ,before it was uploaded | 14:01 |
| TOM_otakux | thanks, i will trylater. by the way, i am chinese user :) | 14:01 |
| BluesKaj | TOM_otakux. using a vpn ? | 14:02 |
| TOM_otakux | no, ADSL | 14:02 |
| TOM_otakux | so the change version is in plasma-nm or ? | 14:02 |
| Rory | I have seen other pepople have this issue with KDE in Saucy recently | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | vpn is remote server some chinese use to get around the gov't bolcked websites and services available in china | 14:03 |
| TOM_otakux | yeah, using the dist-upgrade will update the networkmanagement and will cause this problem | 14:03 |
| TOM_otakux | no, i am not china, i live in taiwan :) | 14:04 |
| TOM_otakux | i am taiwanese | 14:04 |
| TOM_otakux | and there also a little weird about system settings | 14:05 |
| BluesKaj | TOM_otakux. cool ,my son and my daughter both taught english in Taipei a few yrs back ,and my son's wide is from there | 14:05 |
| TOM_otakux | in my notebook, the system settings became very narrow | 14:05 |
| BluesKaj | err wife :) | 14:05 |
| TOM_otakux | WOOO | 14:06 |
| TOM_otakux | the item of systemsetting is very narrow like the kde 4.8or 4.7 | 14:06 |
| BluesKaj | TOM_otakux. narrow , do you mean the screen or the window ? | 14:07 |
| TOM_otakux | maybe i could post a picture for you :) | 14:08 |
| anon | hello | 14:09 |
| Rory | Hello anon | 14:09 |
| anon | I installed ubuntu 13.10 dual booting with windows 8 on UEFI. After the installation windows 8 works but ubuntu complains that the file /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi is missing or corrupt. Sure enough, all I have in /boot is the standard old grub files and nothing `*efi*`. How can I solve this? boot-repair doesn't help. | 14:09 |
| thiebaude | hey anon | 14:09 |
| Rory | !efi | anon have you read this info? | 14:10 |
| ubottu | anon have you read this info?: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 14:10 |
| anon | BTW I first installed everything in `/` then I reinstalled and created an EFI boot partition and `/`. Still the same, does not work. | 14:10 |
| thiebaude | anon, probably have to disable secure boot, and I dont know how to do that | 14:10 |
| TOM_otakux | i know the efi about grub install is not easy :) | 14:10 |
| anon | thiebaude, I already tried disabling secure boot, it still does not work. | 14:10 |
| thiebaude | ahh ok | 14:11 |
| anon | Rory, Of course I did | 14:11 |
| anon | Hm | 14:11 |
| anon | I might have missed something | 14:12 |
| TOM_otakux | this is the image that the weird systemsettings | 14:13 |
| TOM_otakux | http://i.imgur.com/lQSqd5w.png | 14:13 |
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| TOM_otakux | in 13.04, it normal. | 14:13 |
| anon | It is strongly recommended to have only 1 EFI partition per disk. | 14:13 |
| anon | My notebook came with two. | 14:14 |
| TOM_otakux | although that will not cause any feature weird, but it ugly :) | 14:14 |
| TOM_otakux | thanks for helping me about that problem!!! | 14:20 |
| TOM_otakux | the widget of network is complete different WOOO | 14:21 |
| TOM_otakux | and i found the ubuntu update server in tw still not update :) | 14:21 |
| BluesKaj | u, topgrade | 14:22 |
| BluesKaj | err upgrade | 14:23 |
| TOM_otakux | WOO, i saw infiniteband | 14:23 |
| TOM_otakux | there are a little problem, the setting of the screen did not has icon | 14:24 |
| anon | If I already created an EFI partition when I installed ubuntu, should I delete it and reinstall? | 14:25 |
| anon | EFI boot partition | 14:25 |
| TOM_otakux | is the narrow systemsettings is a bug or just the screen resolution is not enough? | 14:27 |
| BluesKaj | TOM_otakux. probly the screen resolution , but I haven't seen that before ...are you on a netbook ? | 14:29 |
| TOM_otakux | a normal notebook XD not screen resulation is 1366x768 | 14:29 |
| TOM_otakux | a normal notebook XD. screen resulation is 1366x768 | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | TOM_otakux.tom it could be the system settings/compiz if you're on unity , dunno for sure I'm a KDE user | 14:42 |
| TOM_otakux | yeah, my kde is install by kubuntu, none unity install before | 14:43 |
| TOM_otakux | and i am upgrade by 13.04 by using the do-release-upgrade | 14:44 |
| TOM_otakux | *from 13.04 | 14:45 |
| BluesKaj | I have to reboot ...brb | 14:45 |
| TOM_otakux | but that is weird, in 13.04 the systemsettings is normal. only happened when in 13.10 | 14:50 |
| BluesKaj | TOM_otakux. check your graphics driver | 14:52 |
| TOM_otakux | nvidia 331.13 :) | 14:52 |
| TOM_otakux | the newest driver in nvidia XD | 14:52 |
| BluesKaj | so you have the xedgers ppa , it';s experimental , perhaps not suited to your notebook graphics | 14:53 |
| BluesKaj | you might be better off with the 325 or the 319 | 14:54 |
| TOM_otakux | before i upgrade to 331, i am using the 319.60 | 14:54 |
| TOM_otakux | and i remember still happened that problem. by the way, i prefer using the nvidia installer. | 14:55 |
| BluesKaj | what about browsing etc , do you have full scrn ? | 14:55 |
| TOM_otakux | the xedgers ppa is when the nvidia installer not working, otherwise, is will be disabled. | 14:56 |
| TOM_otakux | full screen? | 14:56 |
| TOM_otakux | systemsettings? | 14:56 |
| BluesKaj | the nvidia installer doesn't show the 331 driver | 14:56 |
| TOM_otakux | that is beta driver, | 14:57 |
| BluesKaj | TOM_otakux. try your broswer full screen | 14:57 |
| TOM_otakux | could i use chrome to try ? | 14:58 |
| BluesKaj | anything | 14:58 |
| TOM_otakux | i think is normal | 15:00 |
| sandman | how do I stop x server for 13.10? sudo kill -9 pid from terminal just restarts x | 15:00 |
| TOM_otakux | i am using the kdm :) | 15:00 |
| TOM_otakux | and i found the kdm package did not create the link in /etc/init.d | 15:01 |
| TOM_otakux | using firefox or chrome is seems nothing change | 15:01 |
| BluesKaj | TOM_otakux. lightdm for the login, but kwin runs the desktop | 15:02 |
| TOM_otakux | i am still using the kdm :)) | 15:03 |
| BluesKaj | i think it's the nvidia driver , not working correctly | 15:03 |
| BluesKaj | newest is best , especially experimental like 331 | 15:04 |
| BluesKaj | not best ! | 15:04 |
| TOM_otakux | OK, i think i downgrade to 319.60 :) | 15:05 |
| TOM_otakux | rebooting... | 15:09 |
| TOM_otakux | with nvidia 319.60, still is narrow | 15:11 |
| sandman | can anybody please tell me how I can stop x server? or is that not possible? | 15:20 |
| TOM_otakux | sudo service lightdm stop | 15:21 |
| sandman | TOM_otakux, that will not stop x server. Because if run sudo X -verbose 6 > ~/xlog.txt 2>&1 from console I get the message that x is still running | 15:23 |
| sandman | I need to figure out what kind of HorizSync/VertRefresh and resolution for my TV | 15:25 |
| sandman | I'm hoping that this command will produce that: sudo X -verbose 6 > ~/xlog.txt 2>&1 | 15:26 |
| sandman | but all x related must stop running first | 15:27 |
| anon | It still doesn't work. It complains about grubx64.efi not existing or being corrupt. | 15:31 |
| anon | Does anyone have any ideas? | 15:32 |
| anon | Here is my bootinfo http://paste.ubuntu.com/6222906/ | 15:37 |
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| Rallias | How do I make it so reboot is not an alias for shutdown -h now? | 18:01 |
| Rallias | (effectively) | 18:02 |
| trism | Rallias: reboot -f | 18:05 |
| Rallias | trism, Still turns into shutdown -h | 18:06 |
| BluesKaj | Rallias. just use reboot | 18:09 |
| Rallias | BluesKaj, That's the problem... | 18:10 |
| TJ- | Rallias: Is this on a full desktop install, a server, something else? | 18:10 |
| Rallias | Whenever I use the reboot command or shutdown -r now it always powers off... | 18:10 |
| Rallias | TJ-, Server. | 18:10 |
| TJ- | Rallias: That sounds like an ACPI issue | 18:10 |
| Rallias | *sigh* This is what I get for using bleeding edge hardware with new software :( | 18:13 |
| TJ- | Rallias: Check /var/log/dmesg for indications of issues with ACPI functions | 18:13 |
| eagles0513875_ | hey guys does saucy work with hardware which has a uefi bios? | 18:33 |
| TJ- | eagles0513875: Yes, as long as any Secure boot is turned off. Last I heard we're still waiting for Microsoft to sign the latest boot loader shim | 18:33 |
| ikonia | stap in for a LONG wait | 18:34 |
| eagles0513875_ | ikonia: what do you mean | 18:34 |
| eagles0513875_ | ahh i think i figured it out :) | 18:35 |
| ikonia | I wouldn't expect that to happen any time in the short/medium term | 18:35 |
| TJ- | It's expected any day.. certainly prior to release | 18:35 |
| eagles0513875_ | TJ-: the odd thing with 13.04 even if i switch to tompatible mode and switch to an option which is supposed to provide compatibility for os's that dont support uefi i cant install raring or im having tons of issues wiht booting it so im going to try the saucy daily :) | 18:35 |
| TJ- | eagles0513875: There are a lot of very buggy UEFIs out there, you may be victim to one | 18:36 |
| ikonia | TJ-: lets see....... | 18:36 |
| ikonia | eagles0513875_: is it in legacy bios mode or uefi mode | 18:37 |
| ikonia | eagles0513875_: you'll need to clarify that | 18:37 |
| eagles0513875_ | legacy bios mode | 18:37 |
| eagles0513875_ | its a bit off topic for this channel though | 18:37 |
| eagles0513875_ | would be better for kubuntu as its raring not saucy | 18:37 |
| eagles0513875_ | and there is that very annoying issue with ubiquity or what ever the installer is that i think will never be fixed | 18:37 |
| eagles0513875_ | when installing off a usb drive grub installs to the MBR of the pen drive by default instead of that of the hard disk | 18:38 |
| ikonia | ah, you're referencing rarey, sorry | 18:38 |
| eagles0513875_ | the work around for that seems to be to take out the pen drive before installign grub | 18:38 |
| eagles0513875_ | yep i think my hardware is just too new for raring i could be wrong though | 18:38 |
| ikonia | not really | 18:39 |
| ikonia | just set your grub map file | 18:39 |
| ikonia | it will only install to the pendrive if a.) your pendrive defaults to /dev/sda b.) AND you select the default location | 18:39 |
| ikonia | I doubt very much the hardware is too "new" | 18:39 |
| eagles0513875_ | ikonia: isnt that a bug though isnt there some sort of check that can be added to where it checks the sda to see if its a usb device? | 18:40 |
| ikonia | not really, | 18:40 |
| ikonia | it relies on you checking your config | 18:40 |
| eagles0513875_ | TJ-: first time trying out linux on this laptop so i dunno if i am a victim or not | 18:40 |
| ikonia | if you know your usb stick defaults in the bios to /dev/sda - then it's up to you not to accept the default | 18:40 |
| bjsnider | eagles0513875_, i don't have any issues booting raring on efi | 18:43 |
| bjsnider | i created a gpt partition and did things by the book and whatnot | 18:43 |
| eagles0513875_ | bjsnider: odd | 18:44 |
| eagles0513875_ | all i get during boot is the splash screen of toshiba and then black screen and nothign else | 18:45 |
| bjsnider | i'm not dual-booting or anything though | 18:45 |
| eagles0513875_ | im not either | 18:45 |
| eagles0513875_ | bjsnider: did you change any settings in the bios | 18:46 |
| bjsnider | in my setup i can actually see the ubuntu partition which is actually called ubuntu in the efi bios | 18:46 |
| ikonia | I wouldn't worry about other peoples settings | 18:46 |
| eagles0513875_ | ill let you guys know how i fair with saucy | 18:46 |
| eagles0513875_ | bbl | 18:46 |
| vixxo | hi guys, is It true that starting from 13.10 Amazon search can't be removed ? | 19:24 |
| IdleOne | where did you hear that? | 19:26 |
| TJ- | Well, unity-lens-shopping has become a virtual package with its functionality absorbed into unity-scope-home, which depends on unity-scopes-master-default which contains several scopes but non obviously shopping. | 19:28 |
| vixxo | read that from multiple blogs: unity-lens-shopping is not removable anymore the package does not exist, disabling scopes disable even google, google drive and all the other one | 19:28 |
| vixxo | TJ-, sounds weird anyway.... | 19:32 |
| TJ- | vixxo: I'm trying to make sense of the source-code but it isn't straightforward | 19:33 |
| vixxo | TJ-, the sense is quite clear and It's a really limitating choice Canonical this time has gone bad | 19:34 |
| BluesKaj_ | limitating...another new word in the digital world :) | 19:36 |
| vixxo | BluesKaj_, ... some sarcasm ? | 19:38 |
| TJ- | Here it is. There's a set of scopes called more_suggestions-*.scope and its in these as "/usr/share/unity/scopes/more_suggestions.scope" so far as I can tell | 19:39 |
| eagles0513875_ | hey BluesKaj_ | 19:40 |
| BluesKaj_ | vixxo. you'll have to forgive me , but I can't help myself ...the english language is being corrupted all around me and it bothers me no end. | 19:40 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: woudl be great to get this laptop running kubuntu and virtualize windows | 19:40 |
| TJ- | I don't like it, the way it has been made as difficult as can be to remove it... probably a direct reaction to people removing the package in Raring | 19:40 |
| eagles0513875_ | TJ-: doign a network upgrade to saucy | 19:40 |
| TJ- | I've only used Saucy for servers... rolls over to the kvm to check the lens source | 19:41 |
| BluesKaj_ | eagles0513875_. would it be easier to just wipe the drive clean, then start anew? | 19:42 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: not reallly as this is a brand new install | 19:42 |
| eagles0513875_ | reformatted and everything with raring installed | 19:42 |
| eagles0513875_ | all i did was a base ubuntu install | 19:42 |
| BluesKaj_ | still have w8 on it ? | 19:42 |
| eagles0513875_ | then installed kubuntu-desktop | 19:42 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: no | 19:42 |
| BluesKaj_ | ok | 19:42 |
| eagles0513875_ | i burned the recovery partition to dvd yesterday | 19:42 |
| vixxo | BluesKaj_, limiting you are right, haven't seen the error. I Hope you can survive to this | 19:43 |
| eagles0513875_ | i am wondering though if the hardware is a bit way to new for it | 19:43 |
| eagles0513875_ | TJ-: i stick with LTS for servers and all my vps's are on 12.04 | 19:43 |
| BluesKaj_ | vixxo. not to worry , I'm just an old grump | 19:43 |
| BluesKaj_ | eagles0513875_. can attest to that :) | 19:43 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: how so | 19:43 |
| eagles0513875_ | this laptop has a 4th gen haswell i in it which is fairly recent | 19:44 |
| eagles0513875_ | ill know in about 11 min if saucy will work otherwise i will need to go back to windows but at least win 7 | 19:44 |
| BluesKaj_ | could be HW , but unlikely , eagles0513875_ | 19:44 |
| trism | vixxo: you can disable them it seems: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes ['more_suggestions-amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-skimlinks.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope']; | 19:44 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: the scree at one point after it gets past grub will flash then go black | 19:45 |
| trism | vixxo: that seems to get rid of the More Suggestions stuff, you can add any other scopes there you don't want to use | 19:45 |
| BluesKaj_ | do youse a logo of any kind ? | 19:45 |
| BluesKaj_ | you see | 19:45 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: i wonder if its could be potentially a graphics driver issue or something with the intel chipset i have | 19:45 |
| vixxo | thanks trism | 19:45 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: you mean login or kubuntu logo | 19:45 |
| BluesKaj_ | no like nvidia or ... | 19:45 |
| TJ- | eagles0513875: I use 13.10 for apache 2.4 and forward-secrecy | 19:46 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: no its an intel chipset and video | 19:46 |
| eagles0513875_ | TJ-: ahh nice :) | 19:46 |
| BluesKaj_ | ouch , intel graphics | 19:47 |
| eagles0513875_ | im using mpm-event on 2.2 on 12.04 | 19:47 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: could that be the cause right there? | 19:47 |
| TJ- | eagles0513875: Has it got openssh-server installed? can you remote into it? watch the logs 'live' with "tail -f" maybe | 19:47 |
| eagles0513875_ | TJ-: ? what do you mean the laptop | 19:47 |
| TJ- | Whatever has the problem | 19:47 |
| eagles0513875_ | i have it with me right next to me but its doign a network upgrade to saucy atm | 19:47 |
| eagles0513875_ | yes i have it right next to me | 19:47 |
| BluesKaj_ | it's possible eagles0513875_ , can't be certain | 19:47 |
| eagles0513875_ | i got into recovery via grub and got it to mount thefile system and network | 19:47 |
| eagles0513875_ | and now doing an upgrade to saucy | 19:48 |
| TJ- | I've moved away from using the installers now, I've found much more control using debootstrap, starting with the ubuntu-minimal task, and the building up | 19:48 |
| BluesKaj_ | ok , good eagles0513875_ that mean you may have fix come down , unless you used a daily | 19:48 |
| eagles0513875_ | TJ-: how does one work with debootstrap? | 19:48 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: which i did :( | 19:49 |
| eagles0513875_ | no no | 19:49 |
| eagles0513875_ | wait i didnt i put a dialy on my pen drive but it was corrupted somehow | 19:49 |
| BluesKaj_ | well , update /upgrade anyway | 19:49 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: im getting anxious now lol | 19:51 |
| BluesKaj_ | don't , is there some kind of dealine , again ? | 19:51 |
| BluesKaj_ | deadline ratrher | 19:51 |
| eagles0513875_ | no i just want a working system again lol | 19:51 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: this is the cpu in it http://ark.intel.com/products/75117 which was only released 2nd quarter of this year | 19:52 |
| TJ- | eagles0513875: I start off with "sudo -i" then "mkdir /target; lvcreate -L 6G -n rootfs $VG"; lvcreate -L 512M -n boot $VG; lvcreate -L 6G -n var $VG; lvcreate -L 10G -n home $VG; mkfs.ext4 -L boot /dev/$VG/boot; mkfs.ext4 -L var /dev/$VG/var; mkfs.ext4 -L home /dev/$VG/home; mkfs.ext4 -L rootfs /dev/$VG/rootfs; mount /dev/$VG/rootfs /target; mkdir /target/{boot,var,home}; mount /dev/$VG/var /target/var".... etc. | 19:52 |
| eagles0513875_ | ahh that is interesting :) | 19:53 |
| eagles0513875_ | so basically you setup one os which has partitions which can grow in otherwords | 19:53 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: do you know if i installed kubuntu-full meta package if i will be able to uninstall programs which i wont use etc? | 19:54 |
| TJ- | eagles0513875: Then when all the volumes are mounted to /target I do "debootstrap --arch $ARCH --foreign --variant minbase saucy /target http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" and then switch into /target/ with chroot, configure network and other bits, then "/debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage" | 19:54 |
| TJ- | eagles0513875: Yes, all my installations use LVM that way, gives maximum flexibility to mirror, expand, move, snapshot, etc | 19:55 |
| eagles0513875_ | :) | 19:55 |
| BluesKaj_ | eagles0513875_. yes , but it's a pita , better to install the default packages then add if you need any | 19:55 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: bah ok :( | 19:56 |
| eagles0513875_ | wish it coudl work both ways | 19:57 |
| eagles0513875_ | abou t3/4's of the default apps are taking up space for nothing | 19:57 |
| BluesKaj_ | why not try the the miniremix | 19:57 |
| BluesKaj_ | dunno if it's availabele yet | 19:58 |
| eagles0513875_ | remix? | 19:58 |
| BluesKaj_ | for 13.10 that is' | 19:58 |
| eagles0513875_ | what exactly is in said remix though | 19:58 |
| TJ- | minimal install, based on "ubuntu-minimal" task | 19:58 |
| eagles0513875_ | in a way that is what i did | 19:58 |
| eagles0513875_ | a minimal base install then via grub and command line installed the kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-full forgot which one | 19:59 |
| BluesKaj_ | http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/ | 20:02 |
| eagles0513875_ | BluesKaj_: TJ- :D packages are installing for saucy | 20:14 |
| BluesKaj_ | then once installed , do sudo release-upgrade -d | 20:15 |
| BluesKaj_ | gotta go | 20:15 |
| eagles0513875_ | lol BluesKaj_ im already running do-release-upgrade | 20:15 |
| eagles0513875_ | do-release-upgrade -d | 20:16 |
| BluesKaj_ | later | 20:16 |
| eagles0513875_ | later BluesKaj_ :) | 20:16 |
| eagles0513875_ | hey genii :) | 20:25 |
| * genii sips and waves | 20:25 | |
| eagles0513875_ | hows it going genii | 20:27 |
| genii | Well, it's Friday and Monday is a holiday here so pretty good :) | 20:33 |
| eagles0513875_ | bah still no luck here tj genii :( | 20:34 |
| eagles0513875_ | after upgrading to saucy | 20:34 |
| eagles0513875_ | still a black screen of nothign ness | 20:34 |
| genii | eagles0513875_: Tried the nomodeset and so on? | 20:35 |
| eagles0513875_ | genii: how do i set those in grub? | 20:36 |
| genii | !nomodeset | 20:37 |
| ubottu | A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 20:37 |
| eagles0513875_ | that coudl be just what i need | 20:38 |
| * eagles0513875_ gives genii a bear hug | 20:40 | |
| eagles0513875_ | genii: that did the trick | 20:40 |
| genii | Cool. | 20:40 |
| eagles0513875_ | is there a way i can st that permenently in grub | 20:40 |
| eagles0513875_ | genii: have another issue | 20:43 |
| eagles0513875_ | traackpad isnt working | 20:43 |
| genii | eagles0513875_: For permanent, add into /etc/default/grub the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset" ...and then do: sudo update-grub | 20:45 |
| genii | Trackpad you'll need to find someone else to assist with it ... | 20:45 |
| eagles0513875_ | no problem genii | 20:46 |
| febLey | Any reason why the RC isn't out yet? | 21:19 |
| IdleOne | it isn't ready | 21:28 |
| bekks | febLey: Its not published yes. | 21:36 |
| bekks | *yet | 21:36 |
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