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BobJonkmanazend|vps: I've already checked LinkedIn this month.05:22
azend|vpsBobJonkman: :P05:36
azend|vpsI've been checking LinkedIn every few days in the last two weeks05:36
azend|vpsLinkedIn is starting to become an interesting network05:36
BobJonkmanExpecting somethiing?05:36
azend|vpsno05:36
azend|vpsI'm starting to get around to connecting with all of the people I know though05:37
azend|vpsI figure I should get in touch before people forget me and this is pretty low impact05:37
BobJonkmanThere's some value in that.  I'm seeing many different jobhunt sites (and even IRL recruiters) using and recommending LinkedIn05:38
BobJonkmanWhy not use Classmates.com?05:38
azend|vpsYou should see how much linkedin and other recruiting sites charge to post a job listing05:38
BobJonkmanor one of the other many social networks?05:38
azend|vpsthey're all upwards of $60005:38
azend|vpseach05:38
BobJonkmanI hope the places that fork out $600 are getting value for their money05:39
BobJonkmanI expect that each job posting gets hundreds of responses (if not thousands (or even more zeroes))05:40
BobJonkmanAnd I wonder how many are repostings of others on Monster, Workopolis or Taleo05:40
BobJonkman(or vice versa)05:40
azend|vpsBobJonkman: http://www.workopolis.com/solutions/en/product/job-posting05:41
BobJonkmanI've been reading that there are 1000 unfilled tech jobs in Waterloo.05:41
BobJonkmanBut if they're counting job postings on the online sites maybe there's only five jobs, repeated 200 times05:41
azend|vpsI know what The Co-operators pays for listings to be put up on LinkedIn and Workopolis05:42
azend|vpsI think they also put them up on another paid site too but I can't remember their name05:42
* BobJonkman looks at that link. Yowza!05:43
azend|vps+ the careers website and twitter of course05:43
azend|vps+ $50 extra for your job posting to be bolded05:43
BobJonkmanI'm seeing many company's own branded career page actually redirecting to Taleo05:43
azend|vps<b></b> costs $5005:43
azend|vps:P05:43
azend|vpsI've never heard of Taleo05:44
BobJonkman$25 per HTML element.  I should charge for Web pages at that rate!05:44
azend|vpsOoh oracle05:44
azend|vpstough luck05:44
azend|vps$10 per line05:44
BobJonkmanDear Client: Our analysis has revealed that your site is missing approximately 100 <blink> tags.05:45
azend|vps+ $5 extra if it is a block element05:45
BobJonkmanTaleo is used by Manulife, RIM (or, I guess, Blackberry)05:45
BobJonkmanOthers too, can't think of them off the top of my head05:45
azend|vpsHmm05:46
BobJonkmanBTW, I'm hoping to see an @azend on the OStatus networks soon!05:49
azend|vpshaha05:50
azend|vpsI used to05:50
azend|vpsWhat benefit is there these days to running your own SN instance?05:52
azend|vpsEither you talk to yourself a lot or you connect it with twitter05:52
BobJonkmanThe privacy and security of !selfhosting05:52
azend|vpsAnd if you connect it to twitter, you may as well just use twitter05:52
BobJonkmanThere's actually quite an active community: http://www.skilledtests.com/wiki/List_of_Independent_Statusnet_Instances05:53
BobJonkmanAnd about six largish open sites inc. https://loadaverage.org/ and https://quitter.se/05:54
BobJonkmanThere are concentrations of communities all interconnected; the one I'm in is big in Free Software (small surprise).05:54
BobJonkmanMeant to ask you, azend|vps, are you planning a Release Party for 13.10 ?05:55
azend|vpsYeah.. I've just been swamped again05:56
azend|vpsPerhaps a friday night at diyode again?05:56
BobJonkmanSounds great!05:57
azend|vpsBobJonkman: what I want is to set up a localized mesh network and avoid the internet all together for this kind of thing05:58
azend|vpsWe could set up some social networks on there05:58
BobJonkmanWhat is "this kind of thing"?05:58
azend|vpsI have some high power wifi radios that I could use but my mesh network is still a ways out05:58
azend|vpsthis kind of thing being social networks05:59
azend|vpsor any major proprietary cloud service05:59
BobJonkmanAnd just on a private wifi mesh?06:00
BobJonkmanI thought this might have been it: https://openwireless.org/06:01
BobJonkmanBut it's not.06:01
azend|vpswith status net and sparkle share, what else do you need :)06:01
azend|vpsBobJonkman: just on a private internal network06:01
BobJonkmanYou should have a chat with Michael Kaulbach (genii), who's involved with the Toronto Freenet.06:01
BobJonkmanThere was a WiFi mesh component in that, with some sort of central node at the old Linuxcaffee06:02
azend|vpsIs he in any way involved with nich0las doing the same thing at HackLab.TO?06:02
BobJonkmanVery likely06:02
* BobJonkman has to look up sparkle share06:03
BobJonkmanAh! I have something similar with ownCloud06:03
azend|vpsI know06:04
azend|vpshow well does it work?06:04
azend|vpsI've heard anywhere from "Own cloud is the best thing since sliced bread" to "OwnCloud is a sack of crap"?06:04
BobJonkmanownCloud does a reasonably good job of synching folders06:05
BobJonkmanSlightly less so sharing media06:05
BobJonkman(you can share media by sharing folders, but the native media player will only share to accounts on ownCloud; no public shares)06:06
BobJonkmanAnd the calendar works well enough as a CalDAV repository, but the native calendar client sucks06:06
BobJonkmanThe best part (so far) is the "Instant upload" feature - integrated sharing of my Android's camera folder.  I take a picture, and it appears almost immediately06:08
BobJonkmanBoth on the ownCloud Web folder and native Media client, as well as on my computer that's synching the folder06:08
azend|vpsYeah, that's pretty cool06:08
azend|vpsI wish upload speeds in canada weren't quite as bad though06:08
azend|vpsthat would make ownCloud shine06:09
BobJonkmanThere's some degree of media sharing between the Android and ownCloud as well, but you can tell it's really just folder synch underneath.06:09
BobJonkmanThat's not a bad thing, tho.06:09
BobJonkmanYup! (Canada upload speeds)06:10
BobJonkmanThat's a good argument to run a community WiFi mesh.06:10
BobJonkmanEverything runs at WiFi speeds (although multi-hop lag becomes a bottleneck)06:10
azend|vpsTrue although that assumes you use wifi as the interconnect06:11
BobJonkmanTough to run a wired mesh community network...06:13
azend|vpsTougher to get that network connected up with Elora :)06:20
azend|vpsIt's probably easier to do a vpn interconnect via regular internet06:20
azend|vpsUse openvpn or ipsec ror something06:21
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