[01:26] <phillw> darkxst: Hi, with Ali being ill, is there anything I can do to help? I'm thinking of updating http://ubuntugnome.org/ to reflect the fact that the Release Candidate is imminent (although it seems to be delayed as per http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds
[03:02] <darkxst> phillw, hi
[03:03] <darkxst> yeh that would be good, I've been flat out dealing with insurance/looking for a new ca
[03:03] <darkxst> car
[03:10] <phillw> darkxst: I'll need editing privs for http://ubuntugnome.org/ I promise I will not break it!
[04:40] <darkxst> phillw, sure, your launchpad ID is phillw?
[04:43] <darkxst> phillw, images are now spun
[04:44] <darkxst> would be awesome if you could also send out a testing announcement to ubuntu-gnome and ubuntugnome-qa (launchpad list)
[04:44] <phillw> darkxst: they seem to be having a bad RC day, they were all due 21:00 UTC yesterday. I am still awaiting for any sort of explanation.
[04:45] <darkxst> phillw, apparently they set them up, but were just waiting on the cron jobs
[04:45] <darkxst> i.e they didnt force re-spins
[04:45] <darkxst> phillw, you should have access to the website now
[06:15] <darkxst> ricotz, hi
[06:16] <ricotz> darkxst, hey :)
[06:16] <darkxst> how is your automake/conf foo?
[06:17] <darkxst> I have gnome-shell running on js24, but libshell-js needs to be ported to cpp
[06:17] <ricotz> reasonable good i think
[06:17] <darkxst> and for some reason or another it still wants to link to C libraries
[06:18] <darkxst> well while compiling (not actual linking)
[06:18] <ricotz> so you don't have g-s *running* on js24 yet?
[06:19] <darkxst> ricotz, I do
[06:19] <darkxst> I moved shell-js into gjs as a module
[06:19] <darkxst> but Jasper doesnt like that
[06:19] <ricotz> hmm, i see
[06:20] <ricotz> do you rebased the gjs mozjs24 branch to master yet?
[06:20] <darkxst> not yet, but will over the weekend
[06:20] <darkxst> had a crazy week dealing with car insurance
[06:20] <darkxst> and lookng for new car
[06:21] <ricotz> ah, sorry to hear that, i hope you were not at fault
[06:21] <darkxst> and the wip/js24 gjs branch is missing some patches as well anyway
[06:21] <darkxst> nope, it was just parked outside my house and someone decided to crash into it and write it off
[06:21] <ricotz> ok, i guess i could take a look if the branches are up2date
[06:22] <darkxst> ricotz, I can push the missing patches now, but rebase will have to wait until sat or sun
[06:23] <ricotz> don't push the shell-js "import" though
[06:23] <darkxst> I wont
[06:25] <darkxst> pushed
[06:25] <darkxst> you can probably ignore the stuff in shell-global.c (just comment it out for now)
[06:25] <darkxst> its shell-js.c which needs to be built as cpp
[06:26] <ricotz> darkxst, regarding gjs motjs24, i noticed the makefile changes could need some cleaning
[06:28] <darkxst> right, probably, there is definately a mix of CFLAGS vs CPPFLAGS, beyond that I dont have too much experience with automake
[06:29] <darkxst> and also gjs/jsapi-private.cpp can probably be removed as well now (no need to wrap up c++ functions anymore)
[06:41] <ricotz> ok
[06:42] <ricotz> i will take a look
[06:42] <ricotz> i also pushed a gjs js24 snapshot to my unstable ppa
[06:43] <ricotz> btw the package bump to "*0e" is not related to the js24 switch, it just indicates actual abi/api breaks of gjs
[06:47] <darkxst> ricotz, ok
[06:48] <darkxst> btw currently one failing test if js24 isnt built with --disable-intl-api
[06:49] <darkxst> (I think the test is wrong, and give ICU handles locales now, it should be ok to just fix the test, but I need to test this
[06:49] <darkxst> )
[06:49] <ricotz> i see, although this prevents statically linking icu or requiring > 50.2
[06:49] <ricotz> meaning the package is built with --disable-intl-api
[06:50] <darkxst> ricotz, ICU should be required at all with --disable-intl-api
[06:50] <darkxst> shouldnt
[06:50] <ricotz> yes, that is what i meant
[06:51] <darkxst> I told the mozilla guys an in-tree ICU won't fly
[06:51] <darkxst> it shouldnt be a problem to get patches backported though
[06:52] <darkxst> though it would likely hold up any release
[06:52] <ricotz> yeah, given the later buildsys commits they "know"
[06:52] <darkxst> they are also happy to disable ICU by default if that works out easier
[06:53] <ricotz> ok, i hope i will have time later to look into g-s
[06:58] <darkxst> ok thanks
[09:35] <Tomo> Hey guys, I have a problem connecting to the internet, there is a DHCP running on the network so it should connect automatically. I have a dual boot  with windows 8 and ubuntu 12.04 where everything works fine. Could it be some incompatibility deu the new kernel on 13.10? Thaks!
[09:37] <Tomo> I tried to set the network manually and that didn't work either. The network indicator always says "Connecting"
[09:39] <darkxst> Tomo, doesnt sound specific to ubuntu GNOME, you will likely get more help in #ubuntu
[09:40] <Tomo> darkxst, ok sorry for posting in wrong channel :)
[13:20] <Naviathan> Good Morning (Eastern US). I've been running Ubuntu Gnome 13.04 for a while now and I just realized 13.10 was out. With mainline Ubuntu I could just run a dist-upgrade and it would take me to the next version. That appears to not work on here.
[13:21] <Naviathan> What's the easiest route to upgrade without wiping my system?
[13:22] <mgedmin> oh, 13.10 is out already?  awesome
[13:22] <mgedmin> apt-get dist-upgrade was never supported and could break your system; you're supposed to do sudo do-release-upgrade if you want to upgrade from the command line
[13:23] <mgedmin> but I don't think Ubuntu GNOME 13.10 has been released already
[13:24] <Naviathan> Well, it hasn't been "released", but the 13.10 beta is out.
[13:24] <mgedmin> in fact I don't see 13.10 on http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/; what is there is just the "final beta"
[13:24] <mgedmin> http://www.ubuntu.com/ talks about "Ubuntu Server 13.10", giving me the impression it was out already :/
[13:24] <Naviathan> I wasn't aware of the "do-release-upgrade" script either. Man I'm slipping.
[13:25] <mgedmin> or not used to reading documentation :)
[13:25] <mgedmin> if you want to upgrade into a pre-release version, you can do do-release-upgrade -d (and if you want a GUI upgrade, it's update-manager -d)
[13:26] <Naviathan> got it.  Thanks.
[13:27] <bjsnider> i think an rc is close
[13:27] <Naviathan> agreed. Usually by the RC things are pretty stable.
[13:28] <Naviathan> update-manager -d worked. It's pulling down 13.10 now.
[13:46] <phillw> mgedmin: the RC is out in the wild for the final testing, head over to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds to grab a clean ISO :)
[15:10] <Tee> good morning
[15:11] <Tee> I installed ubuntugnome but now I have shell 3.8. Is this right?
[15:28] <mgedmin> sounds about right: ubuntu gnome 13.04 has gnome-shell 3.8.3 (if you enable the gnome3 ppa) or 3.6.3 (if you don't)
[15:30] <mgedmin> the upcoming ubuntu gnome 13.10 will have gnome-shell 3.8.4 (without a ppa)
[15:30] <mgedmin> there's gnome 3.10 in the staging PPA: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3?field.series_filter=saucy
[18:41] <JoaoSantana> hi all
[21:36]  * snwh is away: Away
[22:58] <Robbilie> heyho just a short question, where can i find an installation with gnome 3.10? :)
[23:06] <Robbilie> anyone here active? :D