[00:00] <valorie> ok, off for dinner
[00:00] <valorie> bbl
[00:45] <ahoneybun> away
[10:27] <BluesKaj_> Hi folks
[10:56] <yofel> shadeslayer: hm, checked by settings LANG, LANGUAGE and LC_ALL to de_DE.UTF-8, but it's still english :/
[10:56]  * yofel wonders if he did something wrong..
[12:26] <yofel> shadeslayer: what's the status for https://trello.com/c/9J4yMeZd ? I think you said the last soprano had some fixes for that?
[15:58] <ahoneybun> Hello
[16:19] <lordievader> Hey ahoneybun, how are you?
[16:19] <ahoneybun> Good you? lordievader 
[16:20] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Doing good too. I heard from Riddell that the installation pages should be remove from the docs-package?
[16:27] <ahoneybun> Yes it is not ready
[16:27] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Ok, I think/hope I have some time tommorow.
[16:28] <ahoneybun> OK I want to finalize what we have then work on the install page for a +1 or 14.04
[16:30] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Have you followed the discussion yesterday about the localization?
[16:31] <ahoneybun> I know one person want to translate it but valorie and I want a mini set of docs for launchpad translate
[16:33] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Ah ok. Good to know.
[16:34] <ahoneybun> Yep 
[16:47] <AndChat|545664> Was that the discussion yesterday lordievader ?
[16:49] <lordievader> AndChat|545664: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/10/11/%23kubuntu-devel.html search for "Will the docs really live on the wiki from now on? I mean, really really?"
[16:53] <apachelogger> fwiw next time ahoneybun comes on, someone please tell him that piping documentation through launchpad is not only overly complicate but potentially leads to bad quality as consistency is hard to present in paragraph based translation as would be done by launchpad.
[16:53] <apachelogger> other options should be looked into and given preference if viable at all
[16:54] <lordievader> apachelogger: AndChat|545664 = ahoneybun ;)
[16:54] <apachelogger> oh
[16:54] <apachelogger> AndChat|545664: ^ :P
[16:54] <AndChat|545664> I see
[16:55] <apachelogger> in particular as I mentioned in the past, I'd get in touch with KDE and possibly look into using mediawiki instead of moinmoin
[16:55] <apachelogger> since KDE already has l10n figured out for that it seems and all the tech is there
[17:00] <AndChat|545664> It would be better to use the same tech as KDE 
[17:01] <AndChat|545664> But I just wonder how it will work with our server
[17:03] <lordievader> AndChat|545664: We make a new script that converts the mediawiki into static html ;)
[17:03] <AndChat|545664> That would be amazing
[17:04] <lordievader> It can probably/hopefully be done...
[17:04] <AndChat|545664> Oh hopefully 
[17:06] <AndChat|545664> Let's try it out maybe it would work even better
[17:10] <lordievader> AndChat|545664: Give me some mediawiki content and I'll see if it can be done ;)
[17:10] <AndChat|545664> lordievader: maybe try moving the home page over as a test
[17:10] <AndChat|545664> :)
[17:18] <shadeslayer> yofel: odd, it worked for me, will see it tomorrow
[17:19] <shadeslayer> and yes, Vishesh said the issue you had should be fixed in soprano 2.9
[17:19] <shadeslayer> 2.9.4 
[17:23] <AndChat|545664> What do you think about that lordievader ?
[17:26] <lordievader> AndChat|545664: At the moment I'm starting to wonder if converting code is a good thing to do, I mean why not let the mediawiki system convert it for us?
[17:28] <AndChat|545664> What the wiki to HTML?
[17:28] <lordievader> AndChat|545664: I know nothing about mediawiki, but it is a markup language like moinmoin right?
[17:29] <AndChat|545664> Yes a bit I have not used it neither
[17:31] <lordievader> AndChat|545664: Well it gets processed somewhere, why should we do it (again) if it is done elsewhere too.
[17:32] <AndChat|545664> Thats the reason to move to mediawiki because it can convert 
[17:32] <AndChat|545664> Not sure of the quality
[17:33] <lordievader> AndChat|545664: Not exactly what I mean, but never mind.
[17:34] <AndChat|545664> Oh 
[17:39] <apachelogger> there are a bazillion mediawiki extensions, so I'll guess that there is at least one that can export pages to html
[17:42] <apachelogger> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DumpHTML
[17:42] <AndChat|545664> apachelogger: I think it can Do it by default
[17:42] <apachelogger> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Publishing_from_MediaWiki#Built-in_methods_of_exporting_data_via_the_interface
[17:42] <apachelogger> it even has a builtin render argument for that ^^
[17:42] <apachelogger> anyway
[17:42] <apachelogger> talk with upstream
[17:43] <yofel> shadeslayer: how did you test? Maybe I'm just doing it wrong...
[17:43] <apachelogger> they have people who know more about mediawiki than us :P
[17:43] <yofel> because the .mo is certainly there
[17:43] <apachelogger> yofel: what are you talking about?
[17:43] <yofel> kdesudo l10n
[17:43] <apachelogger> ah, I'll leave now :P
[17:43] <yofel> http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kdesudo_3.4.2.4+repack-2ubuntu2~ppa1_amd64.deb
[17:43] <lordievader> apachelogger: Ohh that would be very helpfull indeed :)
[17:43] <yofel> is supposed to work
[17:44] <lordievader> Making it even easier to keep the docs up to date.
[17:44] <apachelogger> yofel: pff, deb is lame
[17:44] <yofel> blame rohan, not me :P
[17:44]  * apachelogger throws keyboard
[17:44] <yofel> ^^
[17:45] <apachelogger> yofel: the mo was there before btw, hence why I say that deb is crap, easy validation = look at tar's po files :P
[17:47] <yofel> uh, hm
[17:47]  * yofel is seriously bad when it comes to gettext :S
[18:36] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1239173] qt4-x11 - binaries linked against libQtCore don't start @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1239173 (by Matthias Klose)
[19:10] <ScottK> It'd be nice if some people would be doing some ISO testing.
[20:51]  * yofel added kubuntu-create-sru-branches to kubuntu-automation
[20:51] <yofel> someone please look over it to make sure it's sane
[20:56] <valorie> apachelogger: there is really no way for us to use the KDE infra
[20:56] <valorie> I talked to everybody I could think of
[20:57] <valorie> the only thing we could do is install our own mediawiki on our own server, and maintain that ourselves
[20:57] <valorie> I doubt we have anyone willing to do that
[21:20] <yofel> hm
[21:20] <yofel> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kipi-plugins_4%3a3.4.0-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[21:20] <yofel>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/config.kcfg/photolayoutseditor.kcfg', which is also in package digikam 4:3.3.0-0ubuntu1