[00:58] <rickyrayjay> how do i make desktop icons not become widgits? i would like the ability to arrange them as i like
[04:07] <xtriz> anyone can guide me in about rebranding kubuntu ? I have done almost everything, only left is the name of kubuntu that comes on the kde menu and in the muon software centre ?
[04:10] <valorie> what do you mean, rebranding?
[04:16] <xtriz> valorie, i am creating custom distro based on kubuntu so i need to remove the kubuntu logos and name.
[04:17] <valorie> huh
[04:17] <xtriz> valorie, what happened ?
[04:18] <valorie> I have no clue, but you might see how other custom distros do it
[04:18] <valorie> I assume they create their own logos and sub them
[04:18] <xtriz> valorie, are their any kubuntu derivatives ?
[04:19] <valorie> have you looked at sites like http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-a-kde-live-cd-dvd-using-kubuntu ?
[04:19] <valorie> sure, I know netrunner is one
[04:20] <valorie> and I guess Mint
[04:20] <valorie> this is the official guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto
[04:21] <xtriz> valorie, that link will be useful, i can check netrunner and how they have done.
[04:21] <valorie> why do you want a completely custom distro?
[04:23] <xtriz> valorie, i want to  make my own distro will customized settings.
[04:30] <yofel> xtriz: most of the branding is done by kubuntu-settings, so you'll want to replace that with a copy of your defaults
[04:30] <xtriz> yofel, great checking that out
[04:32] <xtriz> yofel, all the kubuntu related branding are in this packaged ?
[04:35] <yofel> not sure if it's all, but most of the desktop stuff is in there (like the menu logo etc.)
[04:36] <xtriz> yofel, cool :)
[04:56] <xtriz> yofel, figured everything out, now only one thing left is that, in muon software center do i have to modify the package so as to remove the provided by Kubuntu ?
[05:32] <xtriz> yofel, prob solved :)
[05:48] <xtriz> for gnome their is dconf editor , for kde is their something similar to it ?
[05:53] <valorie> xtriz: it looks like gnome's is actuall gconf editor
[05:54] <valorie> and dconf is more generic
[05:54] <xtriz> valorie, ok
[05:55] <valorie> although a lot of that is set in systemsettings
[05:55] <xtriz> to cuztomize kde themes is a prob know as it doesn't have dconf or gconf editor.
[05:56] <valorie> did you see this? http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/Theme
[05:57] <tsimpson> there is also kreadconfig and kwriteconfig, but those are not as advanced as gconf or dconf
[05:58] <xtriz> valorie, that is quite useful, i can directly place the themes under the respective folders and tada it's done :D
[05:59] <xtriz> tsimpson, checking those out.
[05:59] <valorie> KDE is created to be customizeable
[06:02] <xtriz> valorie, in a similar way i can customize application appearance and workspace appearance too right ?
[06:03] <valorie> yes
[06:03] <valorie> most apps use the themes you choose
[06:03] <valorie> some might have their own theming, but that is usually independent stuff
[06:04] <xtriz> valorie, what is the general directory under which all this options are stored ?
[06:04] <valorie> I don't know; isn't it covered in the theming tut?
[06:04] <xtriz> /usr/share /
[06:06] <xtriz> got the directory /share/app/desktoptheme
[06:07] <valorie> I've never done what you are attempting
[06:07]  * valorie is pretty satisfied with the presets
[06:07] <xtriz> valorie, ok :)
[06:07] <valorie> except desktop photos
[06:08] <xtriz> :)
[09:20] <infrid> hi
[09:21] <lordievader> Hey infrid
[10:03] <frosted> Hey guys, what is the command , if I want to say have when I press the windows key it opens the kick off apllication launcher ?
[10:03] <frosted>  
[10:04] <lordievader> frosted: The windows key (super key) is a modifier like shift or ctrl, so the keyboard shortcut won't be the windows key alone (unless you apply hacks).
[10:04] <lordievader> a modifier key*
[10:05] <frosted> lordievar okay thats fine but if I want a keyboard shortcut to open the kickoff aplication launcher, what is the command I need to enter to open the menu ?
[10:06] <frosted> lordievader okay thats fine but if I want a keyboard shortcut to open the kickoff aplication launcher, what is the command I need to enter to open the menu ?
[10:07] <lordievader> frosted: Thought there was a preset for it but I cannot find it, let me look through qdbus.
[10:08] <frosted> I thought there was one as well. but after I installed I have nothing on my panel had to add everything manually. usually things like system status is atleast there
[10:14] <lordievader> frosted: Ah, found it, when you right click the menu and hit Application Launcher Settings -> Keyboard shortcut, you can set the keyboard shortcut.
[10:27] <BluesKaj_> Hi folks
[10:35] <frosted_> Hi
[10:42] <Papa_> Hello everyone.
[10:43] <Papa_> I'm having a problem with the mouse arrow.
[10:43] <Papa_> I select the dimensions but after a few minutes, it gets bigger
[10:43] <Papa_> And I'm not my grandpa!
[10:43] <Papa_> Any ideas?
[10:48] <Papa_> I'm making a screenshot
[10:52] <Papa_> Please check → http://uploadpie.com/KQsp7
[10:52] <Papa_> Look at the right
[10:52] <Papa_> In theory I use 24
[10:52] <Papa_> But it looks bigger
[10:52] <FloodBotK1> Papa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <Papa_> Sorry.
[11:30] <anonymous> hey guys
[11:30] <raspberryberet> hi. how do i make ctrl-alt L working again? upgrading to kde 4.11 broke this.
[11:31] <Soru_> Yea me too
[11:31] <Soru_> It doesn't work
[11:31] <raspberryberet> also screensaver cannot be disabled when watching film on any player.
[11:31] <Guest58442> trying to play sam3 on steam with bumblebee and i got pretty poor performance on 1080p and my Geforce 650M ... can someone help me ?  already tried to  set primusrun %command%   ...
[11:31] <raspberryberet> Soru_: that feel bro :/
[11:32] <micha_> Hi, my copy and paste does not work anymore in any application for my main user account. Which programms/settings influence it?
[11:32] <micha_> I tried to stop klipper, but to no avail
[11:33] <Soru_> raspberryberet: It's a pain in the ass becaue I use it at class and sometimes I do ctrl-alt L but I don't remember that it does not work and I leave my computer unblocked! damnit haha
[11:34] <micha_> one exception is dolphin, when copying files, they are copied as text, i.e. when I copy-paste a file, dolphin asks me for a filename to store the text (which consists of the original filename)
[11:34] <raspberryberet> Soru_: same to me here brother
[11:37]  * Soru_ restarts
[11:38] <micha_> It must be some settings in .kde/share/config. Any idea which influences the copy/paste behaviour?
[11:40] <siragius> !list
[11:40] <siragius> ciao
[11:52] <siragius> rld
[12:10] <micha_> Does it make any sense that kdeconnectrc (the kde side of the android plugin) breaks copy-paste?
[13:27] <frosted> Hi all, I've googled my problem with libre writer spell checker not working. Thus I am here to ask for some help. I have hunspell checker installed and set to the correct language but it still doesn't work I can type kdkdkdkdkdkdkdkd and libre will accept that as correct.
[13:38] <BluesKaj_> frosted. ask in #LibreOffice , maybe
[13:39] <frosted> There is a channel for that? awesome i will thank you ^^
[13:39] <BluesKaj_> np
[14:12] <frosted> The chanel is dead BluesKaj
[14:30] <sunny_le> is it possible to run graphical applications like firefox from chroot ?
[14:33] <sunny_le> wow i just run whole kde from chroot, but it crashed after 5 sec
[15:08] <frosted_> Does anyone know if its possible to combine two connections ? Like use two dsl line and use both's speed as one in linux ?
[16:13] <dany> hey
[16:13] <dany> I have problem with lighdm
[16:13] <dany> can anyone help?
[16:17] <dany> any one?
[16:18] <frosted_> dany the channel is pretty death atm. and I can't help you sorry
[16:18] <dany> why dead
[16:18] <dany> ?
[16:18] <frosted_> I dno not much activity
[16:18] <dany> ok
[16:19] <lordievader> dany: What is your problem with lighdm?
[16:19] <dany> I have no kde entry
[16:19] <dany> for all users
[16:19] <dany> only xbmc entry
[16:19] <frosted_> Awh you are in luck dany
[16:19] <lordievader> Many idlers, perhaps they will respond when they see the problem.
[16:20] <dany> I have fresh install od newest kubuntu
[16:20] <dany> I've installed few apps and xbmc
[16:20] <dany> no I cant only log in to xbmc
[16:20] <dany> no kde session :(
[16:21] <lordievader> dany: Can you start kde with "startkde"?
[16:21] <dany> I have lighdm running
[16:21] <dany> init 4
[16:21] <dany> should start it in terminal ctrl+alt+F1
[16:21] <dany> ?
[16:22] <dany> I dont have such command
[16:22] <dany> only start-pulseaudio-kde
[16:22] <dany> and startx
[16:22] <lordievader> dany: That is odd..
[16:22] <dany> i know
[16:23] <lordievader> dany: How did you install Kubuntu?
[16:23] <dany> from thumstick
[16:24] <lordievader> Ok, using a Kubuntu image I presume? Not by installing Ubuntu and then installing the kubuntu-desktop package or something.
[16:24] <dany> no
[16:24] <dany> kubuntu iso
[16:24] <lordievader> What version?
[16:24] <dany> from offical page
[16:24] <dany> newest
[16:24] <dany> upgradet
[16:25] <dany> maybe should reinstall kde
[16:25] <dany> ?
[16:25] <lordievader> dany: Yes you could try reinstalling the kubuntu-desktop package (don't think it will help much, but worth a shot).
[16:27] <dany> i put system to install kubuntu-desktop
[16:28] <dany> will see
[16:28] <dany> what about light entry list
[16:28] <dany> where can find configuration file?
[16:29] <dany> done already
[16:29] <dany> now restarting
[16:29] <lordievader> dany: Not sure how he generates that, I think he gets it from XSession.
[16:29] <dany> ok
[16:30] <dany> it works
[16:30] <dany> kde splash screen
[16:30] <dany> and kde desktop :D
[16:30] <lordievader> dany: Good to hear ;)
[16:31] <dany> but now I have ugly unity lightmdm screen
[16:32] <lordievader> dany: Check if greeter-session= in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf is set to lightdm-kde-greeter.
[16:32] <dany> its not
[16:32] <dany> its unity
[16:33] <dany> changed
[16:33] <lordievader> dany: Then change it ;) "sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[16:33] <dany> lets
[16:33] <dany> see
[16:33] <dany> thanks man for y help
[16:33] <lordievader> dany: No problem ;)
[16:34] <dany> how could that happen :P
[16:34] <dany> kde get uninstalled ?
[16:34] <dany> wird think, never happened to me before
[16:35] <lordievader> dany: That is a very good question. Did you clean out packages or something?
[16:35] <dany> not
[16:35] <dany> only installed few thinks
[16:35] <dany> thanks guys
[16:40] <xtriz> why is that some services get started as a root and some do not ?
[16:40] <xtriz> any specific reasons ?
[16:41] <lordievader> xtriz: Probably permission.
[16:41] <xtriz> lordievader, but i am already doing it as a root
[16:41] <lordievader> xtriz: What do you mean?
[16:41] <xtriz> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[16:41] <xtriz> Upstart job, you may also use the status(8) utility, e.g. status cups
[16:41] <xtriz> when i am doing /etc/init.d/cups start i am getting the above error.
[16:42] <xtriz> i am doing this as a root
[16:42] <lordievader> xtriz: sudo service cups start
[16:42] <xtriz> lordievader, i am customizing kubuntu, so i am doing all this things under chroot.
[16:43] <xtriz> creating custom live cd
[16:43] <lordievader> xtriz: Ok, then why would you need to start the cups service?
[16:44] <xtriz> lordievader, i has to start ssh to transfer certain files, so i was just curious whether i can start cups or not.
[16:44] <xtriz> now this error has made me curious to know what goes under the hood such that cups service don't get started as a root.
[16:44] <lordievader> xtriz: What does "service cups status" say?
[16:45] <xtriz> lordievader, nothing
[16:45] <xtriz> and service cups starts also states nothing, just returns the prompt back.
[16:45] <lordievader> I believe that it should still start even if you use /etc/init.d/<something>, it just says that Ubuntu uses upstart.
[16:45] <xtriz> lordievader, hope so, let me check that out.
[16:46] <lordievader> xtriz: Well it might be the chroot thingie that upstart isn't running or something. Never tried to start a service from within a chroot.
[16:46] <xtriz> lordievader, if i just copy paste the various config files ( themes ) of my current kubuntu install will that work ?
[16:47] <lordievader> xtriz: Themes of what?
[16:47] <xtriz> i have customized panels and window decorations
[16:48] <lordievader> They will probably work, just that you need to figure out how to modify the config files.
[16:49] <kaddi> what is a good place to upload screenshots for illustration?
[16:49] <xtriz> lordievader, to be more precise , the stuff under i.e. application appearance and workspace appearance
[16:49] <lordievader> !paste | kaddi
[16:49] <kaddi> ty
[16:50] <lordievader> xtriz: Same thing, find out how to modify the config files.
[16:51] <xtriz> lordievader, where can i find the config files of those ?
[16:52] <xtriz> googling for each options.
[16:52] <lordievader> xtriz: That is the tricky part, the default user doesn't exist (yet). It is made by casper during the boot process. So what I think you should do, is make a new user, hack the part where the default user is made. And then change the config files.
[16:53] <lordievader> xtriz: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization#Removing_the_.28Casper.29_Autologin
[16:54] <xtriz> lordievader, it works :) super awesome :)
[16:54] <xtriz> the cups job did work on the complete build.
[16:54] <xtriz> it got started but it was not showing.
[16:58] <xtriz> lordievader, you meant to say is that remove the auto login and add a user, and under it i copy all the config files ?
[16:59] <lordievader> xtriz: Something like that yes.
[17:04] <xtriz> lordievader, is that possible to create a setup such that the config files are applied automatically to the new user created ?
[17:05] <xtriz> can i do that i can copy the complete config files with my desired files ?
[17:05] <xtriz> s/copy/replace ?
[17:05] <lordievader> xtriz: Possibly, not a way I know of though...
[17:07] <xtriz> lordievader, or can i do that in chroot , get the GUI run and then select the appropriate options ?
[17:09] <lordievader> Don't think that last one is a very plausible one.
[17:10] <xtriz> :9
[17:10] <xtriz> :(
[17:10] <xtriz> then how can i customized themes ?
[17:11] <xtriz> kdereadconfig or kdewriteconfig ?  i am losing now , tried everything i knew.
[17:13] <lordievader> xtriz: Read from setp 7: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-a-kde-live-cd-dvd-using-kubuntu-p2
[17:14] <blurb> Hi, I'm trying install kubuntu 13.04 with uefi. It boots into grub2 but only drops into a shell instead of detecting an OS (no error messages what so ever).
[17:18] <xtriz> lordievader, thank you so much it will be really helpful :)
[17:20] <lordievader> xtriz: No problem, good luck.
[17:21] <xtriz> lordievader, thank you sir :)
[17:28] <DrowKiroth> Hey everyone question for you guys does anyone know what the development package for pthreads is called
[17:41] <DrowKiroth>  are the development library's for pthreads installed by default
[17:59] <Hackbinary> hello
[17:59] <lordievader> Hey Hackbinary
[18:32] <Addle> Well, getting this laptop working has been a trial. I do hate SecureBoot. Things work now, but I have a screensaver/screen blank/DPMS issue.
[18:32] <Addle> No screensaver or screen blanking works. It flickers and then doesn't go into it.
[18:33] <Addle> acpid is running and testing the screen saver works. It just never comes on. I just see a flicker when it should activate, then nothing. Any troubleshooting hints?
[18:33] <Addle> (Screen dim also doesn't work)
[18:53] <Gnjurac> hi
[18:53] <Gnjurac> does anyone use XIAOPAN or does anyone know their IRC?
[22:20] <tapout> anyone know of a way to scan/search all apps for use of QQuickImageProvider?  I want to see how these wizards coded around that object/user
[22:20] <tapout> use
[22:27] <valorie> tapout: #kde-devel , perhaps?
[23:08] <miractopal> kjk