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stgrabermfisch: test independent server using the code I wrote today: http://phablet.stgraber.org00:36
Saviqslangasek, sorry to be pestering you - any pointers on how to proceed http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6224905/ ?00:43
slangasekSaviq: pass -d00:43
Saviqslangasek, fails calling gcc-4.7 and friends00:43
slangasekwhich is "bypass build-dep checks"00:43
slangasekoh00:43
slangasekthen, let's patch libhybris to fix that :)00:43
Saviqslangasek, and then at the end "C compiler cannot create executables"00:44
Saviqslangasek, I'm all ears00:44
Saviq:)00:44
slangasekSaviq: yeah, the source package needs some special handling in debian/rules... ifneq ($(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE),$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE)) // CXX=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE)-g++-4.7 // CC=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE)-gcc-4.7 // endif00:47
* Saviq does00:47
slangasek(I'm assuming those are the right target variable names, if not, then season to taste)00:48
Saviqslangasek, it's building!00:51
slangasek\o/00:51
Saviqslangasek, CC and CXX, FYI00:52
slangasekok, good :)00:52
Saviqseems to have built, yay00:52
slangasekvery nice00:52
* Saviq proposes fix00:52
slangasekfwiw there's definitely a problem with cmake and cross-building, native builds install to /usr/lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) and cross-builds install to /usr/lib.  so a lot of stuff I've been trying to cross-build this week has been failing at dh_install time because the files aren't in the right place00:53
stgrabermfisch, lool: so just finished a test flash using a system-image server which imports from the main one, repacks the needed files and add some and everything looks good. The updates are recognized as valid by system-image-cli and the upgrader.00:57
stgraberI just need to add tests for all that code and land it into trunk, probably on Tuesday, then I should be able to blog about how to run your own server (and some hints for porters)00:57
Saviqslangasek, right00:59
slangasekhmm, frustrating, my cross-built unity8 package is not displaying01:01
slangasekmakes it difficult to tell if the memory leak is fixed01:01
Saviqslangasek, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/libhybris/ubuntu-cross/+merge/19077801:05
Saviqslangasek, any output?01:05
Saviqslangasek, success, that started cross-building Mir now01:09
Saviqok... that was too fast01:10
Saviqslangasek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6224957/01:10
slangasekSaviq: "output"?01:14
Saviqslangasek, from unity801:14
slangasekSaviq: nah, the display is completely blank.  I was out of date wrt the archive anyway, so I just updated and have the display again01:15
slangaseknot gonna try to debug the cross-build itself right now, when I know cmake is currently a mess :/01:15
Saviqslangasek, ah, k - if you ever see "cannot unblank display" - press the power button and it should come back again01:15
slangasekit didn't :)01:15
Saviqslangasek, after some time, that is ;)01:15
slangasekheh01:15
Saviqslangasek, upstart will respawn unity8 that will tell powerd to unblank01:16
Saviqslangasek, that might take some 20s until you see something happening01:16
Saviqanyway01:16
Saviq3am here, gonna go now...01:16
Saviqslangasek, thanks for all the help, no doubt I'll bug you about this again soon01:17
Saviqhave a good w/end!01:17
Saviqo/01:17
slangasekSaviq: unity8 didn't die, it just didn't give any output.  as for mir, it's clearly trying to do the wrong thing by cross-installing python2.7, I'll have a look here01:17
slangasekSaviq: g'night - you too :)01:17
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iKillCypherhummmm02:00
iKillCypherdevelopers ?02:00
iKillCypherlol02:00
slangasekSaviq: sigh, cross-building mir is going to take a while, the protobuf package is a total mess wrt multiarch... I wish somebody had bothered me about this /before/ the freeze...02:55
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jdstrandnik90: the apparmor policy has to be adjusted. can you point me at the failing click package?04:32
jdstrandnik90: and also file a bug against apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu?04:33
slangasekSaviq: of possible interest to you - won't be pushed to the archive until T opens: lp:~vorlon/ubuntu/saucy/protobuf/multiarch04:38
nhainesDoes anyone know when build 94 hits devel-proposed?05:27
athairusI've just tried flashing the latest nightly to my Verizon Galaxy Nexus (toro), should it be stuck on the Google logo for a while?05:34
athairusI've cleared data, cache, and system using an android recovery then flashed the system image using fastboot, followed by flashing a modified ubuntu touch zip05:35
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athairusflashed boot too, still stuck on the Google screen...05:53
slangasekSaviq: ok, have gotten as far as cross-installing the build-deps of mir (using protobuf from my branch, and a systemtap that I've just pushed to saucy-proposed); then of course it fails in cmake configury (can't find boost), someone else will have to take it from there05:55
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* snwh is back (gone 09:32:48)07:09
nhainessnwh: well, welcome back.07:11
snwhnhaines, thanks lol07:11
snwhbut i never left07:12
nhaineslol07:13
loolstgraber: Hey, it /looks/ like the latest cdimage wasn't picked up by system-image?07:17
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Saviqslangasek, thanks!07:51
nik90jdstrand: The failing click package clock-app in image 9408:16
nik90jdstrand: reporting bug now08:16
nik90jdstrand: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/123907308:27
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1239073 in apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Clock app with calendar policy group unable to access EDS" [Undecided,New]08:27
omacIn Canada, the WIND Mobile network uses a frequency called AWS, with bands 1700/2100.  Do the current nightlies for Ubuntu touch located in  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/    support AWS?11:32
omacMy intent is to purchase a Google LG Nexus 4(mako) for 250$CA in the coming days, but want to ensure the UBUNTU touch will work with AWS first.  Wind Mobile offers unlimited mobile data for 33$CA/month.11:33
popeyomac: is that GSM?11:36
omacMy wife has a Samsung Galaxy S4 and it rocks, but I would prefer to get a phone model that Ubuntu Touch supports from the get-go.  From what I understand the better spec from the listed mako, grouper, maguro, manta is the mako and it comes with 16GB of storage.11:36
popeyyeah, i have the mako11:38
omachttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AWS_devices11:38
omacpopey are you in Canada?11:38
popeynope11:38
popeyUK11:39
omacDo you use Wind mobile?11:39
omack.11:39
omacI know in UK they use GSM.11:39
popeyYeah, that's why I asked if Wind is GSM11:39
omacWe don't have GSM in Canada.  The GSM frequencies might be used for a different protocol in Canada.11:40
omacI know that Galaxy S4 works on Wind Mobile.  My wife has it.11:41
popeyah that's LTE?11:41
omacyeah, it rocks.11:41
popeyI don't think we support that yet.11:41
omacOn November 23, 2012, it was confirmed that, through modifying device settings, it was possible for the device to use LTE Band 4 (AWS).[2]11:45
omachttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_411:46
popeypretty sure a firmware updated undid that11:46
omacI did get it confirmed at Wind Mobile that they do offer Nexus 4 devices with android that run on their network.11:47
omacMy question is do the Ubuntu Touch current images have support for modifying the phone to use AWS?11:47
popeyI dont think we've tested that. Not sure we have any developers in Canada11:48
popeySo I couldn't say it does.11:48
omacWell let's put it this way.  LG Nexus 4 works on Android on Wind Mobile.11:49
omacWind Mobile in Canada is only AWS protocol.  Nothing else.11:49
omacSo if android has support for AWS built-in the LG-Nexus firmware, then ubuntu touch should be able to take advantage of it right?11:50
popeyI wouldn't speculate on that11:51
popeySomeone needs to try it.11:52
omacI don't have 250$ handy to buy the phone to try it.11:52
omacIf someone had an LG Nexus 4 phone with Android installed and WindMobile Sim activated, does the ubuntu touch team have enough know-how to get the info necessary to make it happen and then send the phone back?  I could make the sacrifice, but I wouldn't be living with the phone until the ubuntu touch team returned it to me.11:56
omacWhat's the physical mailing address to send this kind of hardware?  I'm not asking for a specific person's name, but it would be necessary to send it to someone.11:57
omacFrom what I hear ubuntu is located in Isle of Man now.11:57
popeyNo, we're all around the world12:00
popeyisle of man is just where the company is registered12:00
popeyI would recommend sending a mail to the phone mailing list.12:00
popeysee if anyone else has tried12:00
popeyhttps://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/12:01
popeyhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone join that team to subscribe to the mailing list12:01
AskUbuntuIs there an 'offical' way to store date in uTouch-Apps? | http://askubuntu.com/q/35712612:40
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lucenutHey folks. Kinda struggling with ubuntu-touch on my nexus 10.13:15
lucenutIs there a "Software Center" type place to get apps?13:16
ogra_"more suggestions" on the applications page13:18
popeylucenut: you need to login to ubuntu one account in system settings to reveal more suggestions13:19
ogra_popey, oh, is that new ?13:19
popeywell, i mis-spoke13:19
popeyyou need to login to be able to install13:19
ogra_right13:19
ogra_content should still be there13:19
lucenutI have logged into ubuntu one. Just not sure how to get something like skype for instance.13:20
lucenutI type "skype" into the search box and nothing happens.13:20
ogra_you need to be patient ... (probably very patient) ... until someone offers it :)13:20
lucenutAh.13:20
popeyskype isnt yet available13:21
ogra_(read: there is nothing more than you can see when expanding the "more suggestions" category)13:21
lucenutSo these "apps" are not the same programs that ran on other ubuntu?13:21
popeythe store on the phone is not the same as the ubuntu software centre13:21
ogra_right, the phone does not have an Xserver (like android doesnt) ...13:21
ogra_most graphical apps need X13:21
ogra_(from the SW center i mean)13:22
lucenutAnyone know if the developer preview will "update" into the real release after the 17th?13:22
ogra_yes13:22
ogra_ubuntu touch is kind of a "rolling release", you will constantly get updates13:22
popeyOH NOES! He said the R word!13:22
* popey emails omgubuntu13:22
ogra_haha13:22
lucenutMy brightness goes half after about 30 seconds, then screen shuts off after another 30.13:23
popeysounds about right13:23
lucenutHow can I change that?13:23
popeypower saving in action13:23
popeynot sure that's hooked up to the GUI yet13:23
ogra_you cant yet (missing feature) ...13:23
lucenutK13:23
popeymight need to futz around in the command line to do that13:23
ogra_nope13:23
popeyah okay13:23
ogra_there is no mechanism to store such settings yet13:24
lucenutIs this browser Firefox?13:24
lucenutOr is FF available?13:24
popeynope13:24
ogra_nope, a newly written one from scratch13:24
popeyfeel free to ask firefox for a port ☻13:24
ogra_and no, FF isnt available13:24
ogra_(yet)13:24
ogra_:)13:24
lucenutIs the "Messaging" app for instant messaging?13:25
popeythats sms13:25
ogra_we're only nearing the v1.0 release, i guess nobody will want to port before this is out13:25
lucenutAh13:25
ogra_so they can rely on a half way stablke API13:25
* ogra_ bets 14.04 will have a good bunch of 3rd party apps too13:26
lucenutIs there any instant messaging?13:26
lucenutI typed "instant mess" and get nothing.13:27
popeylike msn/yahoo? no, not that I'm aware of13:27
* popey already has "instant mess"13:27
lucenutIRC...13:27
popeyyou should see my desk13:27
popeynot yet, I expect some of those to arrive after we release 13.1013:27
ogra_friends offers some IM, doesnt it ?13:27
popeynot tried it13:27
* ogra_ neither 13:27
lucenutAnyone know dual boot is going to be available? As it is I can't do much of anything.13:28
lucenutThe browser is OK.13:28
lucenutThe Facebook app is bad.13:29
ogra_well, its the browser too :)13:29
ogra_it is essentially the mobile website i think13:29
* ogra_ doesnt use facewbook, but the G+ app is like that13:29
lucenutWhat do you do when something like FB is running in the smaller pane on the right side of the screen?13:30
lucenutHow do you make it fullscreen?13:30
lucenutI haven't figured out how to shuffle multiple apps I guess.13:31
ogra_you swipe from the right13:31
lucenutNope. I closed the other apps and opened just FB and it's stuck in the right side. Swiping from the right does nothing.13:32
popeyswipe in from right works if you have more than one app open13:32
ogra_right. what would you swipe to if there is only one app13:33
lucenutThis is the only app I have open13:33
lucenutI will need this dual-boot or the family will kill me.13:34
lucenutI just tried this while on the road for a week.13:34
* popey installs 94 on grouper13:34
popeywell, updates13:35
popeyI properly love this new update system13:35
* ogra_ too13:36
lucenutI don't think I like the music thing. Do lots of linux-heads feel the need to buy Britney Spears new album?13:36
AmarreroCan I run unbuntu touch on my galaxy tab 3 10.113:37
popeylucenut: i might, for my daughter13:38
popeylucenut: you can easily switch off the online components by turning off the specific dash bits13:38
lucenutI would be more interested in being shown how to transfer MY music onto this device.13:38
ogra_just plug it into your desktop13:39
popeyyeah, drag and drop13:39
ogra_it should pop up a filemanager13:39
popey\o/13:39
popeyeek, grouper just started flickering madly13:40
lucenutOK, I just signed into a google account.13:41
lucenutBut the screen is so tiny now and it won't zoom.13:41
lucenutCan't "confirm" it.13:41
popeyi like the new preview transitions in the dash13:45
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B13Bdid phablet just update for support of the nexus 7 2013?14:51
popeyB13B: no15:10
OrokuSakiGoing to swap qcom/media-legacy for someone elses... I think that is the best idea yet15:48
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chiefw0tjDid anyone else notice ubuntu touch slow down after the last update, or is is just me?16:05
RobbyFyeah its using MIR now and hasnt been optimized16:06
OrokuSakiwhen  did unity go to Mir by default? what date?16:07
RobbyFbuild 90~92 ish16:08
OrokuSakirootfs... 10-10-2013?16:08
OrokuSakidoes that have mir by default?16:08
OrokuSakitablet charging right now.. oh that would be sweet16:09
RobbyFoct 10th on devel proposed16:09
OrokuSakiahhh so not on release okay16:09
RobbyFI havn't done much in the last few days so i'm not sure if it's regular release yet.16:09
RobbyFbut I'd assume its there.16:09
OrokuSakiwhen it powers on I will see if surfaceflinger is running. =)16:10
OrokuSakiyep.. its running16:11
OrokuSakiflinger16:11
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sbmhi. can somebody help me with porting UT for S4 i9505?16:45
sbmi have multiple error: messages on hardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/amix.c compilation. Like this: hardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/alsa_pcm.c:910:9: error: return makes pointer from integer without a cast [-Werror]16:50
sbmcc1: all warnings being treated as errors16:50
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JHOSMAN_As is done compiling my QT project in order to have the executable? (to run from the terminal)16:55
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chiefw0tjSorry...had to step away for a bit.  Cool, so the slow down is caused by Mir not being optimized yet.  Got it.17:22
chiefw0tjI have pretty high hopes for this OS so far.17:22
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JHOSMAN_As is done compiling my QT project in order to have the executable? (to run from the terminal)17:55
JHOSMAN_mhall119: ¿17:56
slangasekJHOSMAN_: that's a rather broad question.  Do you mean a project created using the Ubuntu SDK?18:01
slangasekogra_: so https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/session-manager-touch/pulseaudio-expect-daemon/+merge/190788 is still marked 'needs review'... is that something you could merge / upload?  I don't have commit rights on that branch.18:03
avesncecan sombody help with compilation UT for i9505 10.1? i have this error18:04
avesncehardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/arec.c:435:30: error: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions [-Werror=sign-compare]18:04
avesncecc1: all warnings being treated as errors18:04
avesncethis errors amount about 5018:06
ogra_slangasek, yes, itr needs to go through the spreadsheet first ... i added it there18:31
Tassadarogra_: hi, are ZIP installers at cdimage.ubuntu.com deprecated, and system-image is the only way to install ubuntu touch now?18:32
ogra_Tassadar, no, it is the suppreted and default way but the zip stuff should still work (we dont test it and dont really care for bugs from there since the setup is completely different)18:32
Tassadarhm, okay, thanks, I'll try to switch to that system.img-based builds with my multiboot thingy then18:38
Tassadar*those18:39
slangaseklool: ^^ around?  can you approve this fix to the pulseaudio user session job in ubuntu-touch-session, so ogra_ can merge/upload?18:40
Tassadarogra_: one more thing, in system-image builds you don't use device's system partition at all, it is just an .img inside /data partition, correct?18:42
karniHey guys, I didn't expect anyone at this time. I urgently need to know (giving demo on Monday), does i18n.dtr work when launching the app from qtc?18:43
popeykarni: got an example app and language? I can try it here18:50
athairusI'm having trouble getting the latest build (the 11th) to work on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus (toro). Anyone willing to help?18:50
karnipopey: yes, let me send it to you, thanks. in the mean time, I'm trying as well with Saviq18:51
popeyk18:51
avesncecan somebody help me with build alsa for i9505 10.1?18:52
karnipopey: Sent it to you. What we did with Saviq was to put the .mo file in /usr/share/ , but that didn't seem to help (although I'm sure it's a step forward!)18:55
karniSaviq: Can we move here? I'll be trying to make it work along as well, sent it to popey18:56
Saviqkarni, yeah18:56
Saviqkarni, yeah, so without .cpp - just put it in /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/domain.mo18:57
karnipopey: I tried to launch it like so: export LANG=ko; qmlscene --desktop_hint_file=.... soundboard.qml18:57
karniSaviq: gotcha18:57
popeyah18:57
Saviqkarni, and then i18n.dtr("domain", "foo") should work18:57
karnipopey: btw after you launch it, just press space. you should see translated "Thank you" into korean18:57
karniSaviq: trying right away!! :)18:57
karniI'm so happy you guys are here18:58
popeySaviq is gonna be more help than me ☻18:58
karnipopey: I'm doing something wrong. And this is critical if I want to show off i18n at the demo, but yes, Saviq is also helping me out.18:59
karniI'm basically fighting for one i18n here, and I think it's worth showing in action.18:59
karniSaviq: sadly, I still see "Thank you"19:01
karnitext: i18n.dtr("soundboard", "Thank you")19:01
karnikarni@laptop:~/soundboard$ ls /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo19:01
karni/usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo19:01
karnirun like so: $ export LANG=ko; qmlscene --desktop_file_hint soundboard.desktop soundboard.qml19:01
Saviqkarni, let me try something19:02
karnicontent of the .po file at the end is19:02
karni#: soundboard.qml:5819:02
karnimsgid "Thank you"19:02
karnimsgstr "감사합니다"19:02
karniIf you don't see korean, ignore that. It's my screen/13.10 setup failing.19:02
karniI see korean locally19:02
Saviqyeah, I don't ;)19:02
karniSaviq: I sent you the tar, in case you want to have a look. I'll try to regenerate the mo file.19:03
karnithe text shows up after you launch the app and press space19:04
karniSaviq: this might be interesting, didn't see it before19:07
karniactually, now it doesn't want to create a new .po file for me19:08
karnichanged my terminal, created .po file19:09
Saviqkarni, ok, so it works for pl19:11
Saviqkarni, LANGUAGE=ko19:11
karniuhh19:12
* karni tries19:12
Saviqkarni, LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8; LANGUAGE=ko; LC_ALL=ko_KR.UTF-819:12
Saviqif you want everything19:12
loolslangasek, ogra_: Looked good, approved/happroved/added to landing plan!  :-)19:13
karniyeah, I tried from scratch and it didn't work. now trying your suggestion19:13
loolslangasek, ogra_: Upload when you like to19:13
Saviqkarni, sorry, I always forget there's a bunch of those19:13
slangasekogra_: will you take care of this?  (Again, no commit rights on the branch)19:13
Saviqkarni, you can always verify you have stuff set up with `locale`19:13
Saviqkarni, now...19:13
loolslangasek: Hmm we should fix this, core-devs should be able to commit19:13
Saviqkarni, problem is the text rendering is wrong :/19:13
karniSaviq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228019/19:14
slangaseklool: that is a losing battle that I have tried fighting for years19:14
karniSaviq: I still see "Thank you" in my app. So I must have done something wrong.19:14
Saviqkarni, let me send you my .mo19:14
karnithis is how I create the po file: msginit -i messages.pot -o ko.po19:14
Saviqkarni, and don't export everything19:14
Saviqkarni, just run:19:14
SaviqLANG=ko_KR.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=ko LC_ALL=ko_KR.UTF-8 qmlscene soundboard.qml19:14
slangasek"the authoritative source branches should always be writable by the same people who can upload" - obvious to me, but never gets done whenever a team of people who aren't core-devs need a branch :/19:14
karniSaviq: oh ok19:14
Saviqkarni, to avoid stuff breaking in your bash ;)19:14
loologra_, slangasek: I'll update the branch and upload19:15
Saviqkarni, I'm doing this on desktop, btw, not on device - let me try there19:15
slangaseklool: cheers19:15
karniSaviq: hah!! check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228023/19:15
karniSaviq: Me too, I don't "care" about the device, don't worry19:15
karniI want to demo that part on the PC19:15
Saviqkarni, yeah, did you install the language pack, to generate the locale?19:16
karniyes19:16
loolslangasek, ogra_: uploded19:16
karniLet me double check that.19:16
lool*uploaded19:16
Saviqkarni, log out of the console and back in, and I'm sending you my .tar back19:16
karnilanguage-pack-ko is already the newest version19:16
karniSaviq: thanks!19:16
Saviqkarni, btw, I use poedit to translate - it also generates .mo on save19:16
karnioh, nice19:16
* karni awaits the tar, still not working here19:17
Saviqkarni, en route, you'll have both pl.mo and ko.mo there19:17
karniSaviq: sorry to be a pain19:17
karniSaviq: great19:17
Saviqkarni, you're not19:17
karniYou're really helpful.19:18
Saviqkarni, with that, and the .mo copied to /usr/share/locale/{pl,ko}/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo19:18
Saviqkarni, ah and remember19:18
* karni copies19:19
Saviqkarni, you didn't have dtr("soundboard", "Thank You") in the qml19:19
Saviqkarni, but tr("Thank You")19:19
Saviqkarni, for that you'll need Binding { target: i18n; property: "domain"; value: "soundboard" }19:19
karniSaviq: yeah I added dtr after I sent it to popey19:20
karnidtr("soundboard", ..)19:20
* karni tries19:20
Saviqkarni, assuming you're using pl on your desktop - it should Just Work™ with pl translations19:21
Saviqkarni, and if you change LANGUAGE - it should do Korean19:21
Saviqoh and now it even displayed correctly19:21
Saviqkarni, yeah, don't export LANG19:22
Saviqkarni, just LANGUAGE=ko19:22
karniSaviq: guess what. Polish works, Korean doesn't. It must be some sort of support shortage?19:22
karniSaviq: korean worked for you??19:22
Saviqkarni, rather the fact that locale isn't available19:22
Saviqkarni, sudo locale-gen ko_KR.UTF-819:22
Saviqkarni, the bash complaints would suggest so - and I'd log out/back in for good measure19:23
karniSaviq: 1. you're amazing 2. you're right.. rendering isn't good :<<19:23
Saviqkarni, unexport LANG19:23
Saviqkarni, or reset it19:23
Saviqkarni, just set LANGUAGE19:23
Saviqkarni, LANGUAGE=ko19:23
karniSaviq: yeah, it's working now. just the rendering.. is, well. you saw it.19:24
Saviqkarni, it's good19:24
Saviqkarni, without LANG19:24
karnioh19:24
Saviqkarni, rendering I mean19:24
* karni tries19:24
Saviqkarni, scrap your termina19:24
Saviql19:24
Saviqkarni, start again19:24
karniyeah, lanched a new one19:24
Saviqkarni, and start with LANGUAGE=ko qmlscene soundboard.qml19:24
karniWOOOOO19:25
Saviqeverything looks good then, as far as I can tell19:25
karniSaviq: <319:25
Saviqkarni, awesome19:25
karniSaviq: You saved the i18n part of the demo19:25
Saviqkarni, happy to help19:25
karniSaviq: I owe you a good drink!19:25
karniThanks so much for your time!19:25
Saviqkarni, no worries, kill'em'all there :)19:25
karnipopey: FYI with priceless help from Saviq and a few bumps, we pulled it off19:25
* Saviq afk19:25
karniSaviq: haha, thanks!19:26
popeyI did nothing ☻19:28
popey\o/ well done19:28
popeygood luck with the demo karni19:28
loolpopey: do you see the clock 1.0 app centered correctly on nexus 4?19:29
karniThanks popey :)19:29
loolthe 1.0 version seems to launch fine now, but it's not centered19:29
loolI might have improperly cleaned local modifications19:29
loolgetting so many crashes since Friday19:30
popeylool: no, bug filed19:31
loolpopey: ah I removed the clock, but it's no in appstore19:31
loollalala19:31
popeywat19:31
loolpopey: thanks, was looking for confirmation before filing one19:31
loolwasn't sure I had a clean install19:31
popeybug 123908819:31
ubot5bug 1239088 in Ubuntu Clock App "Display of clock app is too wide and offset to the right" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123908819:31
loolthanks19:32
popeynp19:32
loolpopey: to get a clean install, I tried to remove the click and reinstall it, but couldn't find it in store19:32
popeyyeah, some of the apps aren't in the store yet19:32
loolpopey: is it planned?19:32
popeyyes19:32
loolok, all good then19:32
loolpopey: thanks!19:32
popeyyou kicking off 95?19:33
loolpopey: BTW, preinstalled clicks now listed in e.g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/pending/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.manifest thanks to ogra_19:33
loolpopey: not particularly yet; did you need one?19:33
popeyno, just wondered19:33
loolI probably will kick one end of sunday unless something urgent pops up19:33
popeyok, thats cool19:33
loolso that we get fresh test results monday morning19:33
popeyi know music app guys are still beavering away19:33
loolyeah; did the mega merge go in?19:33
popeyyes19:34
popeymore pending19:34
popeybug 1239147 is bizarre19:34
ubot5bug 1239147 in Mir "App preview is upside down and inside out" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123914719:34
popeyi took my devices along to a lug meet today, took 5 mins for someone to break a device19:34
looloh yeah19:35
loolmine break in 5 mn too19:35
loolI tried location service for instnace19:35
loolor just wildly pressing power button is pretty solid crasher too  :-)19:35
popeyhah19:36
loolin the last week, I thought 3G wasn't working, but it turned up for the first time for me today19:36
loolworked ok19:36
loolbut slow to fix19:36
Saviqpopey, lool, do you guys know anything about apport-retrace? I was wondering if it's at all supported to retrace with non-archive packages?19:45
popeypass, sorry19:45
Saviqpitti, if you happen to be around somewhen, you'll probably know ↑↑19:46
loolSaviq: it's not supported19:46
Saviq;(19:46
loolSaviq: actually19:46
loolSaviq: maybe it is for our special PPA19:46
loolSaviq: because we're copying the binaries after build19:47
Saviqlool, which special PPA? daily-build?19:47
loolSaviq: Yes19:47
loolSaviq: it's special in that we copy the source + binaries built there straight into -proposed19:48
loolSaviq: so the dbgsym debs must be there somehow19:48
Saviqlool, I have dbgsyms19:48
Saviqlool, but apport-retrace shrugs at them for some reason19:48
Saviqlool, maybe you know how to make apt-ftparchive pick up .ddeb and not only .deb files?19:49
Saviqmaybe that's why it didn't like them - because they were -dbgsym.deb19:49
Saviqand not -dbgsym.ddeb19:49
loolSaviq: hmm maybe19:50
loolSaviq: did it bail out or give you an incomplete bt?19:50
loolSaviq: the only thing I know is that input is sources.list19:50
loolso I'd try passing a PPA there just for fun19:50
Saviqlool, said something about outdated dbgsyms19:50
loolSaviq: I also know we're building our binaries in PPA, yet the dbgsyms show up at: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/u/unity-mir/19:50
Saviqlool, yeah, might be something worth trying19:51
Saviqlool, ah so maybe -dbgsym are only supported from there19:51
Saviqlool, so yeah, PPA'd be supported, but not something that doesn't place the dbgsyms in ddebs19:51
loolSaviq: e.g. telepathy-ofono is in a version only in PPA and the dbgsym are in http://people.canonical.com/~platform/cu2d/results19:51
loolso maybe all devirtualized PPAs also upload there, but if the version appears in Ubuntu it overwrites them19:52
Saviqlool, yeah, need a chat with pitti probably, then19:52
loolSaviq: err the dbgsym are in http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/t/telepathy-ofono/19:52
Saviqlool, thanks for the clue19:52
loolSaviq: so just a matter to force apport-retrace to take the dbgsym from same location19:52
lool(it's a good surprize we have them when staged in PPA actually; I thought this whole story would only work if Launchpad was tracking this stuff)19:53
Saviqlool, yeah, from *any* location, for that matter - but then, as I said, I *suspect* the s/ddeb/deb/ might matter19:53
Saviq/away19:53
loolSaviq: can you just build in daily PPA and mirror the dbgsym from there?19:54
loolas to have ddeb19:54
loolSaviq: can build you $something from bzr trunk in PPA now if you need one19:55
Saviqlool, nah, that's fine thanks19:57
Saviqlool, ultimately I can just install the dbgsym locally where the crash happened19:57
Saviqlool, and no need to retrace19:58
loolSaviq: yeah19:58
loolSaviq: that's what I usually end up doing  :-)19:58
loolneed to try the -S of apport-retrace some day19:58
Saviqlool, I was pretty successful with the retracer lately, yeah19:58
loolcool19:58
avesncecan somebody tell me where i can see those unavailabel pages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VoiceCall https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HiFi?20:07
avesncethose link from second porting guide, part Device changes/Audio20:08
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meeeeeehey. can anybody tell me, why my nexus 7 w/ ubuntu touch always hangs itself uf a few minutes after bootig?20:47
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ahayzenmhall119, ping21:37
ahayzenIs the Jenkins bot down? it hasn't done anything for 30mins+ and got a strange error on one of my merges 'FATAL: hudson.remoting.RequestAbortedException: java.io.IOException: Unexpected termination of the channel'21:42
mhall119ahayzen: sounds like it's down then21:43
mhall119fginther: ^^21:43
ahayzen'(pending - mediumtests-slave is offline )'21:43
mhall119ahayzen: fginther will rescue Jenkins when he's around again, until then you should go enjoy your weekend :)21:44
ahayzenmhall119, heh got lots of bugs to fix first :)21:44
mhall119as long as you're having fun with it21:45
ahayzenyep :)21:45
ahayzensome really nice fixes for the music-app today21:45
mhall119\o/21:46
mhall119the music app is looking so nice these days, I'm loving it21:46
avence|jfltexxyeh, i know c too bad... in alsa_pcm.c ... how i can cast -EINVAL to pcm pointer? pcm is struct21:47
loolahayzen: Right, this was a timeout to reach the slave, and it's now completely offline22:03
ahayzenlool, :(22:03
loolahayzen: so no further jobs will pass  :-/22:03
loolahayzen: there's a planned outage of the internal canonical cloud where this runs22:04
ahayzenlool, ah ok when is it expected to be back?22:05
loolahayzen: actually sorry, this outage was meant to be tomorrow evening, not tonight22:05
loolahayzen: Let me check with IS22:05
loolahayzen: down since one hour apparently22:07
loolahayzen: but doesn't seem anyone is around22:07
ahayzenlool, yeah looks it https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone-apps-jenkins-bot/+karma22:08
loolahayzen: can you see http://91.189.93.70:8080/computer/mediumtests-slave/builds ?22:08
ahayzenlool, yep22:08
loolahayzen: anyway, I cant do anything about it (no idea how the slave is setup/run) and while I could escalate things to IS, I think this specific instance is NOT handled by IS22:09
ahayzenlool, ok22:09
loolahayzen: so I feel bad to use the emergency number just to have IS discover that it's nothing they can help with22:09
ahayzenlool, thts fine don't worry22:10
loolahayzen: what I'd suggest is that you run the AP tests manually on each mp22:10
loolahayzen: and foce it in22:10
lool*force it in22:10
loolI think I can force things in at the jenkins level, but it's simplest if you just bzr merge things you've tested22:10
ahayzenlool, yeah we are running manual tests i mean we'll see if it up tomorrow then start manually merging if it isn't22:10
loolahayzen: I do expect turbulance in any case tomorrow due to this planned outage; it was meant from sunday evening to monday morning22:11
loolSun Oct 13 21:00 UTC - Mon Oct 14 04:00 UTC22:11
looland the end results /should/ be instances running as before IIUC22:11
ahayzenIIUC....22:11
loolif I understand correctly22:12
ahayzenah22:12
ahayzentoo many acronyms :P22:12
ahayzenlool, anyway thanks for looking :)22:12
loollet me just mail the relevant folks in case they are addicted enough to open work mail over the weekend22:13
loolI guess I wont help their addiction with this22:13
popeyWe have awesome outage slots ☻22:26
ahayzenpopey, just before release?22:30
popeyindeed22:31
ahayzenhehe22:32
anders3408mhall119:  you here ?22:59
anders3408mhall119:  i really need you, having a private question :)22:59
OrokuSakiwonder if not having accept4 is causing hybris not to render my video decoder... guess I will add it and revert systemd and pulse patches and see what happens23:57

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