[00:36] <stgraber> mfisch: test independent server using the code I wrote today: http://phablet.stgraber.org
[00:43] <Saviq> slangasek, sorry to be pestering you - any pointers on how to proceed http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6224905/ ?
[00:43] <slangasek> Saviq: pass -d
[00:43] <Saviq> slangasek, fails calling gcc-4.7 and friends
[00:43] <slangasek> which is "bypass build-dep checks"
[00:43] <slangasek> oh
[00:43] <slangasek> then, let's patch libhybris to fix that :)
[00:44] <Saviq> slangasek, and then at the end "C compiler cannot create executables"
[00:44] <Saviq> slangasek, I'm all ears
[00:44] <Saviq> :)
[00:47] <slangasek> Saviq: yeah, the source package needs some special handling in debian/rules... ifneq ($(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE),$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE)) // CXX=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE)-g++-4.7 // CC=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE)-gcc-4.7 // endif
[00:47]  * Saviq does
[00:48] <slangasek> (I'm assuming those are the right target variable names, if not, then season to taste)
[00:51] <Saviq> slangasek, it's building!
[00:51] <slangasek> \o/
[00:52] <Saviq> slangasek, CC and CXX, FYI
[00:52] <slangasek> ok, good :)
[00:52] <Saviq> seems to have built, yay
[00:52] <slangasek> very nice
[00:52]  * Saviq proposes fix
[00:53] <slangasek> fwiw there's definitely a problem with cmake and cross-building, native builds install to /usr/lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) and cross-builds install to /usr/lib.  so a lot of stuff I've been trying to cross-build this week has been failing at dh_install time because the files aren't in the right place
[00:57] <stgraber> mfisch, lool: so just finished a test flash using a system-image server which imports from the main one, repacks the needed files and add some and everything looks good. The updates are recognized as valid by system-image-cli and the upgrader.
[00:57] <stgraber> I just need to add tests for all that code and land it into trunk, probably on Tuesday, then I should be able to blog about how to run your own server (and some hints for porters)
[00:59] <Saviq> slangasek, right
[01:01] <slangasek> hmm, frustrating, my cross-built unity8 package is not displaying
[01:01] <slangasek> makes it difficult to tell if the memory leak is fixed
[01:05] <Saviq> slangasek, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/libhybris/ubuntu-cross/+merge/190778
[01:05] <Saviq> slangasek, any output?
[01:09] <Saviq> slangasek, success, that started cross-building Mir now
[01:10] <Saviq> ok... that was too fast
[01:10] <Saviq> slangasek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6224957/
[01:14] <slangasek> Saviq: "output"?
[01:14] <Saviq> slangasek, from unity8
[01:15] <slangasek> Saviq: nah, the display is completely blank.  I was out of date wrt the archive anyway, so I just updated and have the display again
[01:15] <slangasek> not gonna try to debug the cross-build itself right now, when I know cmake is currently a mess :/
[01:15] <Saviq> slangasek, ah, k - if you ever see "cannot unblank display" - press the power button and it should come back again
[01:15] <slangasek> it didn't :)
[01:15] <Saviq> slangasek, after some time, that is ;)
[01:15] <slangasek> heh
[01:16] <Saviq> slangasek, upstart will respawn unity8 that will tell powerd to unblank
[01:16] <Saviq> slangasek, that might take some 20s until you see something happening
[01:16] <Saviq> anyway
[01:16] <Saviq> 3am here, gonna go now...
[01:17] <Saviq> slangasek, thanks for all the help, no doubt I'll bug you about this again soon
[01:17] <Saviq> have a good w/end!
[01:17] <Saviq> o/
[01:17] <slangasek> Saviq: unity8 didn't die, it just didn't give any output.  as for mir, it's clearly trying to do the wrong thing by cross-installing python2.7, I'll have a look here
[01:17] <slangasek> Saviq: g'night - you too :)
[02:00] <iKillCypher> hummmm
[02:00] <iKillCypher> developers ?
[02:00] <iKillCypher> lol
[02:55] <slangasek> Saviq: sigh, cross-building mir is going to take a while, the protobuf package is a total mess wrt multiarch... I wish somebody had bothered me about this /before/ the freeze...
[04:32] <jdstrand> nik90: the apparmor policy has to be adjusted. can you point me at the failing click package?
[04:33] <jdstrand> nik90: and also file a bug against apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu?
[04:38] <slangasek> Saviq: of possible interest to you - won't be pushed to the archive until T opens: lp:~vorlon/ubuntu/saucy/protobuf/multiarch
[05:27] <nhaines> Does anyone know when build 94 hits devel-proposed?
[05:34] <athairus> I've just tried flashing the latest nightly to my Verizon Galaxy Nexus (toro), should it be stuck on the Google logo for a while?
[05:35] <athairus> I've cleared data, cache, and system using an android recovery then flashed the system image using fastboot, followed by flashing a modified ubuntu touch zip
[05:53] <athairus> flashed boot too, still stuck on the Google screen...
[05:55] <slangasek> Saviq: ok, have gotten as far as cross-installing the build-deps of mir (using protobuf from my branch, and a systemtap that I've just pushed to saucy-proposed); then of course it fails in cmake configury (can't find boost), someone else will have to take it from there
[07:09]  * snwh is back (gone 09:32:48)
[07:11] <nhaines> snwh: well, welcome back.
[07:11] <snwh> nhaines, thanks lol
[07:12] <snwh> but i never left
[07:13] <nhaines> lol
[07:17] <lool> stgraber: Hey, it /looks/ like the latest cdimage wasn't picked up by system-image?
[07:51] <Saviq> slangasek, thanks!
[08:16] <nik90> jdstrand: The failing click package clock-app in image 94
[08:16] <nik90> jdstrand: reporting bug now
[08:27] <nik90> jdstrand: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1239073
[11:32] <omac> In Canada, the WIND Mobile network uses a frequency called AWS, with bands 1700/2100.  Do the current nightlies for Ubuntu touch located in  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/    support AWS?
[11:33] <omac> My intent is to purchase a Google LG Nexus 4(mako) for 250$CA in the coming days, but want to ensure the UBUNTU touch will work with AWS first.  Wind Mobile offers unlimited mobile data for 33$CA/month.
[11:36] <popey> omac: is that GSM?
[11:36] <omac> My wife has a Samsung Galaxy S4 and it rocks, but I would prefer to get a phone model that Ubuntu Touch supports from the get-go.  From what I understand the better spec from the listed mako, grouper, maguro, manta is the mako and it comes with 16GB of storage.
[11:38] <popey> yeah, i have the mako
[11:38] <omac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AWS_devices
[11:38] <omac> popey are you in Canada?
[11:38] <popey> nope
[11:39] <popey> UK
[11:39] <omac> Do you use Wind mobile?
[11:39] <omac> k.
[11:39] <omac> I know in UK they use GSM.
[11:39] <popey> Yeah, that's why I asked if Wind is GSM
[11:40] <omac> We don't have GSM in Canada.  The GSM frequencies might be used for a different protocol in Canada.
[11:41] <omac> I know that Galaxy S4 works on Wind Mobile.  My wife has it.
[11:41] <popey> ah that's LTE?
[11:41] <omac> yeah, it rocks.
[11:41] <popey> I don't think we support that yet.
[11:45] <omac> On November 23, 2012, it was confirmed that, through modifying device settings, it was possible for the device to use LTE Band 4 (AWS).[2]
[11:46] <omac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_4
[11:46] <popey> pretty sure a firmware updated undid that
[11:47] <omac> I did get it confirmed at Wind Mobile that they do offer Nexus 4 devices with android that run on their network.
[11:47] <omac> My question is do the Ubuntu Touch current images have support for modifying the phone to use AWS?
[11:48] <popey> I dont think we've tested that. Not sure we have any developers in Canada
[11:48] <popey> So I couldn't say it does.
[11:49] <omac> Well let's put it this way.  LG Nexus 4 works on Android on Wind Mobile.
[11:49] <omac> Wind Mobile in Canada is only AWS protocol.  Nothing else.
[11:50] <omac> So if android has support for AWS built-in the LG-Nexus firmware, then ubuntu touch should be able to take advantage of it right?
[11:51] <popey> I wouldn't speculate on that
[11:52] <popey> Someone needs to try it.
[11:52] <omac> I don't have 250$ handy to buy the phone to try it.
[11:56] <omac> If someone had an LG Nexus 4 phone with Android installed and WindMobile Sim activated, does the ubuntu touch team have enough know-how to get the info necessary to make it happen and then send the phone back?  I could make the sacrifice, but I wouldn't be living with the phone until the ubuntu touch team returned it to me.
[11:57] <omac> What's the physical mailing address to send this kind of hardware?  I'm not asking for a specific person's name, but it would be necessary to send it to someone.
[11:57] <omac> From what I hear ubuntu is located in Isle of Man now.
[12:00] <popey> No, we're all around the world
[12:00] <popey> isle of man is just where the company is registered
[12:00] <popey> I would recommend sending a mail to the phone mailing list.
[12:00] <popey> see if anyone else has tried
[12:01] <popey> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/
[12:01] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone join that team to subscribe to the mailing list
[12:40] <AskUbuntu> Is there an 'offical' way to store date in uTouch-Apps? | http://askubuntu.com/q/357126
[13:15] <lucenut> Hey folks. Kinda struggling with ubuntu-touch on my nexus 10.
[13:16] <lucenut> Is there a "Software Center" type place to get apps?
[13:18] <ogra_> "more suggestions" on the applications page
[13:19] <popey> lucenut: you need to login to ubuntu one account in system settings to reveal more suggestions
[13:19] <ogra_> popey, oh, is that new ?
[13:19] <popey> well, i mis-spoke
[13:19] <popey> you need to login to be able to install
[13:19] <ogra_> right
[13:19] <ogra_> content should still be there
[13:20] <lucenut> I have logged into ubuntu one. Just not sure how to get something like skype for instance.
[13:20] <lucenut> I type "skype" into the search box and nothing happens.
[13:20] <ogra_> you need to be patient ... (probably very patient) ... until someone offers it :)
[13:20] <lucenut> Ah.
[13:21] <popey> skype isnt yet available
[13:21] <ogra_> (read: there is nothing more than you can see when expanding the "more suggestions" category)
[13:21] <lucenut> So these "apps" are not the same programs that ran on other ubuntu?
[13:21] <popey> the store on the phone is not the same as the ubuntu software centre
[13:21] <ogra_> right, the phone does not have an Xserver (like android doesnt) ...
[13:21] <ogra_> most graphical apps need X
[13:22] <ogra_> (from the SW center i mean)
[13:22] <lucenut> Anyone know if the developer preview will "update" into the real release after the 17th?
[13:22] <ogra_> yes
[13:22] <ogra_> ubuntu touch is kind of a "rolling release", you will constantly get updates
[13:22] <popey> OH NOES! He said the R word!
[13:22]  * popey emails omgubuntu
[13:22] <ogra_> haha
[13:23] <lucenut> My brightness goes half after about 30 seconds, then screen shuts off after another 30.
[13:23] <popey> sounds about right
[13:23] <lucenut> How can I change that?
[13:23] <popey> power saving in action
[13:23] <popey> not sure that's hooked up to the GUI yet
[13:23] <ogra_> you cant yet (missing feature) ...
[13:23] <lucenut> K
[13:23] <popey> might need to futz around in the command line to do that
[13:23] <ogra_> nope
[13:23] <popey> ah okay
[13:24] <ogra_> there is no mechanism to store such settings yet
[13:24] <lucenut> Is this browser Firefox?
[13:24] <lucenut> Or is FF available?
[13:24] <popey> nope
[13:24] <ogra_> nope, a newly written one from scratch
[13:24] <popey> feel free to ask firefox for a port ☻
[13:24] <ogra_> and no, FF isnt available
[13:24] <ogra_> (yet)
[13:24] <ogra_> :)
[13:25] <lucenut> Is the "Messaging" app for instant messaging?
[13:25] <popey> thats sms
[13:25] <ogra_> we're only nearing the v1.0 release, i guess nobody will want to port before this is out
[13:25] <lucenut> Ah
[13:25] <ogra_> so they can rely on a half way stablke API
[13:26]  * ogra_ bets 14.04 will have a good bunch of 3rd party apps too
[13:26] <lucenut> Is there any instant messaging?
[13:27] <lucenut> I typed "instant mess" and get nothing.
[13:27] <popey> like msn/yahoo? no, not that I'm aware of
[13:27]  * popey already has "instant mess"
[13:27] <lucenut> IRC...
[13:27] <popey> you should see my desk
[13:27] <popey> not yet, I expect some of those to arrive after we release 13.10
[13:27] <ogra_> friends offers some IM, doesnt it ?
[13:27] <popey> not tried it
[13:27]  * ogra_ neither 
[13:28] <lucenut> Anyone know dual boot is going to be available? As it is I can't do much of anything.
[13:28] <lucenut> The browser is OK.
[13:29] <lucenut> The Facebook app is bad.
[13:29] <ogra_> well, its the browser too :)
[13:29] <ogra_> it is essentially the mobile website i think
[13:29]  * ogra_ doesnt use facewbook, but the G+ app is like that
[13:30] <lucenut> What do you do when something like FB is running in the smaller pane on the right side of the screen?
[13:30] <lucenut> How do you make it fullscreen?
[13:31] <lucenut> I haven't figured out how to shuffle multiple apps I guess.
[13:31] <ogra_> you swipe from the right
[13:32] <lucenut> Nope. I closed the other apps and opened just FB and it's stuck in the right side. Swiping from the right does nothing.
[13:32] <popey> swipe in from right works if you have more than one app open
[13:33] <ogra_> right. what would you swipe to if there is only one app
[13:33] <lucenut> This is the only app I have open
[13:34] <lucenut> I will need this dual-boot or the family will kill me.
[13:34] <lucenut> I just tried this while on the road for a week.
[13:34]  * popey installs 94 on grouper
[13:35] <popey> well, updates
[13:35] <popey> I properly love this new update system
[13:36]  * ogra_ too
[13:36] <lucenut> I don't think I like the music thing. Do lots of linux-heads feel the need to buy Britney Spears new album?
[13:37] <Amarrero> Can I run unbuntu touch on my galaxy tab 3 10.1
[13:38] <popey> lucenut: i might, for my daughter
[13:38] <popey> lucenut: you can easily switch off the online components by turning off the specific dash bits
[13:38] <lucenut> I would be more interested in being shown how to transfer MY music onto this device.
[13:39] <ogra_> just plug it into your desktop
[13:39] <popey> yeah, drag and drop
[13:39] <ogra_> it should pop up a filemanager
[13:39] <popey> \o/
[13:40] <popey> eek, grouper just started flickering madly
[13:41] <lucenut> OK, I just signed into a google account.
[13:41] <lucenut> But the screen is so tiny now and it won't zoom.
[13:41] <lucenut> Can't "confirm" it.
[13:45] <popey> i like the new preview transitions in the dash
[14:51] <B13B> did phablet just update for support of the nexus 7 2013?
[15:10] <popey> B13B: no
[15:48] <OrokuSaki> Going to swap qcom/media-legacy for someone elses... I think that is the best idea yet
[16:05] <chiefw0tj> Did anyone else notice ubuntu touch slow down after the last update, or is is just me?
[16:06] <RobbyF> yeah its using MIR now and hasnt been optimized
[16:07] <OrokuSaki> when  did unity go to Mir by default? what date?
[16:08] <RobbyF> build 90~92 ish
[16:08] <OrokuSaki> rootfs... 10-10-2013?
[16:08] <OrokuSaki> does that have mir by default?
[16:09] <OrokuSaki> tablet charging right now.. oh that would be sweet
[16:09] <RobbyF> oct 10th on devel proposed
[16:09] <OrokuSaki> ahhh so not on release okay
[16:09] <RobbyF> I havn't done much in the last few days so i'm not sure if it's regular release yet.
[16:09] <RobbyF> but I'd assume its there.
[16:10] <OrokuSaki> when it powers on I will see if surfaceflinger is running. =)
[16:11] <OrokuSaki> yep.. its running
[16:11] <OrokuSaki> flinger
[16:45] <sbm> hi. can somebody help me with porting UT for S4 i9505?
[16:50] <sbm> i have multiple error: messages on hardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/amix.c compilation. Like this: hardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/alsa_pcm.c:910:9: error: return makes pointer from integer without a cast [-Werror]
[16:50] <sbm> cc1: all warnings being treated as errors
[16:55] <JHOSMAN_> As is done compiling my QT project in order to have the executable? (to run from the terminal)
[17:22] <chiefw0tj> Sorry...had to step away for a bit.  Cool, so the slow down is caused by Mir not being optimized yet.  Got it.
[17:22] <chiefw0tj> I have pretty high hopes for this OS so far.
[17:55] <JHOSMAN_> As is done compiling my QT project in order to have the executable? (to run from the terminal)
[17:56] <JHOSMAN_> mhall119: ¿
[18:01] <slangasek> JHOSMAN_: that's a rather broad question.  Do you mean a project created using the Ubuntu SDK?
[18:03] <slangasek> ogra_: so https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/session-manager-touch/pulseaudio-expect-daemon/+merge/190788 is still marked 'needs review'... is that something you could merge / upload?  I don't have commit rights on that branch.
[18:04] <avesnce> can sombody help with compilation UT for i9505 10.1? i have this error
[18:04] <avesnce> hardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/arec.c:435:30: error: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions [-Werror=sign-compare]
[18:04] <avesnce> cc1: all warnings being treated as errors
[18:06] <avesnce> this errors amount about 50
[18:31] <ogra_> slangasek, yes, itr needs to go through the spreadsheet first ... i added it there
[18:32] <Tassadar> ogra_: hi, are ZIP installers at cdimage.ubuntu.com deprecated, and system-image is the only way to install ubuntu touch now?
[18:32] <ogra_> Tassadar, no, it is the suppreted and default way but the zip stuff should still work (we dont test it and dont really care for bugs from there since the setup is completely different)
[18:38] <Tassadar> hm, okay, thanks, I'll try to switch to that system.img-based builds with my multiboot thingy then
[18:39] <Tassadar> *those
[18:40] <slangasek> lool: ^^ around?  can you approve this fix to the pulseaudio user session job in ubuntu-touch-session, so ogra_ can merge/upload?
[18:42] <Tassadar> ogra_: one more thing, in system-image builds you don't use device's system partition at all, it is just an .img inside /data partition, correct?
[18:43] <karni> Hey guys, I didn't expect anyone at this time. I urgently need to know (giving demo on Monday), does i18n.dtr work when launching the app from qtc?
[18:50] <popey> karni: got an example app and language? I can try it here
[18:50] <athairus> I'm having trouble getting the latest build (the 11th) to work on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus (toro). Anyone willing to help?
[18:51] <karni> popey: yes, let me send it to you, thanks. in the mean time, I'm trying as well with Saviq
[18:51] <popey> k
[18:52] <avesnce> can somebody help me with build alsa for i9505 10.1?
[18:55] <karni> popey: Sent it to you. What we did with Saviq was to put the .mo file in /usr/share/ , but that didn't seem to help (although I'm sure it's a step forward!)
[18:56] <karni> Saviq: Can we move here? I'll be trying to make it work along as well, sent it to popey
[18:56] <Saviq> karni, yeah
[18:57] <Saviq> karni, yeah, so without .cpp - just put it in /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/domain.mo
[18:57] <karni> popey: I tried to launch it like so: export LANG=ko; qmlscene --desktop_hint_file=.... soundboard.qml
[18:57] <karni> Saviq: gotcha
[18:57] <popey> ah
[18:57] <Saviq> karni, and then i18n.dtr("domain", "foo") should work
[18:57] <karni> popey: btw after you launch it, just press space. you should see translated "Thank you" into korean
[18:57] <karni> Saviq: trying right away!! :)
[18:58] <karni> I'm so happy you guys are here
[18:58] <popey> Saviq is gonna be more help than me ☻
[18:59] <karni> popey: I'm doing something wrong. And this is critical if I want to show off i18n at the demo, but yes, Saviq is also helping me out.
[18:59] <karni> I'm basically fighting for one i18n here, and I think it's worth showing in action.
[19:01] <karni> Saviq: sadly, I still see "Thank you"
[19:01] <karni> text: i18n.dtr("soundboard", "Thank you")
[19:01] <karni> karni@laptop:~/soundboard$ ls /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo
[19:01] <karni> /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo
[19:01] <karni> run like so: $ export LANG=ko; qmlscene --desktop_file_hint soundboard.desktop soundboard.qml
[19:02] <Saviq> karni, let me try something
[19:02] <karni> content of the .po file at the end is
[19:02] <karni> #: soundboard.qml:58
[19:02] <karni> msgid "Thank you"
[19:02] <karni> msgstr "ê°ì¬í©ëë¤"
[19:02] <karni> If you don't see korean, ignore that. It's my screen/13.10 setup failing.
[19:02] <karni> I see korean locally
[19:02] <Saviq> yeah, I don't ;)
[19:03] <karni> Saviq: I sent you the tar, in case you want to have a look. I'll try to regenerate the mo file.
[19:04] <karni> the text shows up after you launch the app and press space
[19:07] <karni> Saviq: this might be interesting, didn't see it before
[19:08] <karni> actually, now it doesn't want to create a new .po file for me
[19:09] <karni> changed my terminal, created .po file
[19:11] <Saviq> karni, ok, so it works for pl
[19:11] <Saviq> karni, LANGUAGE=ko
[19:12] <karni> uhh
[19:12]  * karni tries
[19:12] <Saviq> karni, LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8; LANGUAGE=ko; LC_ALL=ko_KR.UTF-8
[19:12] <Saviq> if you want everything
[19:13] <lool> slangasek, ogra_: Looked good, approved/happroved/added to landing plan!  :-)
[19:13] <karni> yeah, I tried from scratch and it didn't work. now trying your suggestion
[19:13] <lool> slangasek, ogra_: Upload when you like to
[19:13] <Saviq> karni, sorry, I always forget there's a bunch of those
[19:13] <slangasek> ogra_: will you take care of this?  (Again, no commit rights on the branch)
[19:13] <Saviq> karni, you can always verify you have stuff set up with `locale`
[19:13] <Saviq> karni, now...
[19:13] <lool> slangasek: Hmm we should fix this, core-devs should be able to commit
[19:13] <Saviq> karni, problem is the text rendering is wrong :/
[19:14] <karni> Saviq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228019/
[19:14] <slangasek> lool: that is a losing battle that I have tried fighting for years
[19:14] <karni> Saviq: I still see "Thank you" in my app. So I must have done something wrong.
[19:14] <Saviq> karni, let me send you my .mo
[19:14] <karni> this is how I create the po file: msginit -i messages.pot -o ko.po
[19:14] <Saviq> karni, and don't export everything
[19:14] <Saviq> karni, just run:
[19:14] <Saviq> LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=ko LC_ALL=ko_KR.UTF-8 qmlscene soundboard.qml
[19:14] <slangasek> "the authoritative source branches should always be writable by the same people who can upload" - obvious to me, but never gets done whenever a team of people who aren't core-devs need a branch :/
[19:14] <karni> Saviq: oh ok
[19:14] <Saviq> karni, to avoid stuff breaking in your bash ;)
[19:15] <lool> ogra_, slangasek: I'll update the branch and upload
[19:15] <Saviq> karni, I'm doing this on desktop, btw, not on device - let me try there
[19:15] <slangasek> lool: cheers
[19:15] <karni> Saviq: hah!! check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228023/
[19:15] <karni> Saviq: Me too, I don't "care" about the device, don't worry
[19:15] <karni> I want to demo that part on the PC
[19:16] <Saviq> karni, yeah, did you install the language pack, to generate the locale?
[19:16] <karni> yes
[19:16] <lool> slangasek, ogra_: uploded
[19:16] <karni> Let me double check that.
[19:16] <lool> *uploaded
[19:16] <Saviq> karni, log out of the console and back in, and I'm sending you my .tar back
[19:16] <karni> language-pack-ko is already the newest version
[19:16] <karni> Saviq: thanks!
[19:16] <Saviq> karni, btw, I use poedit to translate - it also generates .mo on save
[19:16] <karni> oh, nice
[19:17]  * karni awaits the tar, still not working here
[19:17] <Saviq> karni, en route, you'll have both pl.mo and ko.mo there
[19:17] <karni> Saviq: sorry to be a pain
[19:17] <karni> Saviq: great
[19:17] <Saviq> karni, you're not
[19:18] <karni> You're really helpful.
[19:18] <Saviq> karni, with that, and the .mo copied to /usr/share/locale/{pl,ko}/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo
[19:18] <Saviq> karni, ah and remember
[19:19]  * karni copies
[19:19] <Saviq> karni, you didn't have dtr("soundboard", "Thank You") in the qml
[19:19] <Saviq> karni, but tr("Thank You")
[19:19] <Saviq> karni, for that you'll need Binding { target: i18n; property: "domain"; value: "soundboard" }
[19:20] <karni> Saviq: yeah I added dtr after I sent it to popey
[19:20] <karni> dtr("soundboard", ..)
[19:20]  * karni tries
[19:21] <Saviq> karni, assuming you're using pl on your desktop - it should Just Work™ with pl translations
[19:21] <Saviq> karni, and if you change LANGUAGE - it should do Korean
[19:21] <Saviq> oh and now it even displayed correctly
[19:22] <Saviq> karni, yeah, don't export LANG
[19:22] <Saviq> karni, just LANGUAGE=ko
[19:22] <karni> Saviq: guess what. Polish works, Korean doesn't. It must be some sort of support shortage?
[19:22] <karni> Saviq: korean worked for you??
[19:22] <Saviq> karni, rather the fact that locale isn't available
[19:22] <Saviq> karni, sudo locale-gen ko_KR.UTF-8
[19:23] <Saviq> karni, the bash complaints would suggest so - and I'd log out/back in for good measure
[19:23] <karni> Saviq: 1. you're amazing 2. you're right.. rendering isn't good :<<
[19:23] <Saviq> karni, unexport LANG
[19:23] <Saviq> karni, or reset it
[19:23] <Saviq> karni, just set LANGUAGE
[19:23] <Saviq> karni, LANGUAGE=ko
[19:24] <karni> Saviq: yeah, it's working now. just the rendering.. is, well. you saw it.
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, it's good
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, without LANG
[19:24] <karni> oh
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, rendering I mean
[19:24]  * karni tries
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, scrap your termina
[19:24] <Saviq> l
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, start again
[19:24] <karni> yeah, lanched a new one
[19:24] <Saviq> karni, and start with LANGUAGE=ko qmlscene soundboard.qml
[19:25] <karni> WOOOOO
[19:25] <Saviq> everything looks good then, as far as I can tell
[19:25] <karni> Saviq: <3
[19:25] <Saviq> karni, awesome
[19:25] <karni> Saviq: You saved the i18n part of the demo
[19:25] <Saviq> karni, happy to help
[19:25] <karni> Saviq: I owe you a good drink!
[19:25] <karni> Thanks so much for your time!
[19:25] <Saviq> karni, no worries, kill'em'all there :)
[19:25] <karni> popey: FYI with priceless help from Saviq and a few bumps, we pulled it off
[19:25]  * Saviq afk
[19:26] <karni> Saviq: haha, thanks!
[19:28] <popey> I did nothing ☻
[19:28] <popey> \o/ well done
[19:28] <popey> good luck with the demo karni
[19:29] <lool> popey: do you see the clock 1.0 app centered correctly on nexus 4?
[19:29] <karni> Thanks popey :)
[19:29] <lool> the 1.0 version seems to launch fine now, but it's not centered
[19:29] <lool> I might have improperly cleaned local modifications
[19:30] <lool> getting so many crashes since Friday
[19:31] <popey> lool: no, bug filed
[19:31] <lool> popey: ah I removed the clock, but it's no in appstore
[19:31] <lool> lalala
[19:31] <popey> wat
[19:31] <lool> popey: thanks, was looking for confirmation before filing one
[19:31] <lool> wasn't sure I had a clean install
[19:31] <popey> bug 1239088
[19:32] <lool> thanks
[19:32] <popey> np
[19:32] <lool> popey: to get a clean install, I tried to remove the click and reinstall it, but couldn't find it in store
[19:32] <popey> yeah, some of the apps aren't in the store yet
[19:32] <lool> popey: is it planned?
[19:32] <popey> yes
[19:32] <lool> ok, all good then
[19:32] <lool> popey: thanks!
[19:33] <popey> you kicking off 95?
[19:33] <lool> popey: BTW, preinstalled clicks now listed in e.g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/pending/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.manifest thanks to ogra_
[19:33] <lool> popey: not particularly yet; did you need one?
[19:33] <popey> no, just wondered
[19:33] <lool> I probably will kick one end of sunday unless something urgent pops up
[19:33] <popey> ok, thats cool
[19:33] <lool> so that we get fresh test results monday morning
[19:33] <popey> i know music app guys are still beavering away
[19:33] <lool> yeah; did the mega merge go in?
[19:34] <popey> yes
[19:34] <popey> more pending
[19:34] <popey> bug 1239147 is bizarre
[19:34] <popey> i took my devices along to a lug meet today, took 5 mins for someone to break a device
[19:35] <lool> oh yeah
[19:35] <lool> mine break in 5 mn too
[19:35] <lool> I tried location service for instnace
[19:35] <lool> or just wildly pressing power button is pretty solid crasher too  :-)
[19:36] <popey> hah
[19:36] <lool> in the last week, I thought 3G wasn't working, but it turned up for the first time for me today
[19:36] <lool> worked ok
[19:36] <lool> but slow to fix
[19:45] <Saviq> popey, lool, do you guys know anything about apport-retrace? I was wondering if it's at all supported to retrace with non-archive packages?
[19:45] <popey> pass, sorry
[19:46] <Saviq> pitti, if you happen to be around somewhen, you'll probably know ↑↑
[19:46] <lool> Saviq: it's not supported
[19:46] <Saviq> ;(
[19:46] <lool> Saviq: actually
[19:46] <lool> Saviq: maybe it is for our special PPA
[19:47] <lool> Saviq: because we're copying the binaries after build
[19:47] <Saviq> lool, which special PPA? daily-build?
[19:47] <lool> Saviq: Yes
[19:48] <lool> Saviq: it's special in that we copy the source + binaries built there straight into -proposed
[19:48] <lool> Saviq: so the dbgsym debs must be there somehow
[19:48] <Saviq> lool, I have dbgsyms
[19:48] <Saviq> lool, but apport-retrace shrugs at them for some reason
[19:49] <Saviq> lool, maybe you know how to make apt-ftparchive pick up .ddeb and not only .deb files?
[19:49] <Saviq> maybe that's why it didn't like them - because they were -dbgsym.deb
[19:49] <Saviq> and not -dbgsym.ddeb
[19:50] <lool> Saviq: hmm maybe
[19:50] <lool> Saviq: did it bail out or give you an incomplete bt?
[19:50] <lool> Saviq: the only thing I know is that input is sources.list
[19:50] <lool> so I'd try passing a PPA there just for fun
[19:50] <Saviq> lool, said something about outdated dbgsyms
[19:50] <lool> Saviq: I also know we're building our binaries in PPA, yet the dbgsyms show up at: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/u/unity-mir/
[19:51] <Saviq> lool, yeah, might be something worth trying
[19:51] <Saviq> lool, ah so maybe -dbgsym are only supported from there
[19:51] <Saviq> lool, so yeah, PPA'd be supported, but not something that doesn't place the dbgsyms in ddebs
[19:51] <lool> Saviq: e.g. telepathy-ofono is in a version only in PPA and the dbgsym are in http://people.canonical.com/~platform/cu2d/results
[19:52] <lool> so maybe all devirtualized PPAs also upload there, but if the version appears in Ubuntu it overwrites them
[19:52] <Saviq> lool, yeah, need a chat with pitti probably, then
[19:52] <lool> Saviq: err the dbgsym are in http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/t/telepathy-ofono/
[19:52] <Saviq> lool, thanks for the clue
[19:52] <lool> Saviq: so just a matter to force apport-retrace to take the dbgsym from same location
[19:53] <lool> (it's a good surprize we have them when staged in PPA actually; I thought this whole story would only work if Launchpad was tracking this stuff)
[19:53] <Saviq> lool, yeah, from *any* location, for that matter - but then, as I said, I *suspect* the s/ddeb/deb/ might matter
[19:53] <Saviq> /away
[19:54] <lool> Saviq: can you just build in daily PPA and mirror the dbgsym from there?
[19:54] <lool> as to have ddeb
[19:55] <lool> Saviq: can build you $something from bzr trunk in PPA now if you need one
[19:57] <Saviq> lool, nah, that's fine thanks
[19:57] <Saviq> lool, ultimately I can just install the dbgsym locally where the crash happened
[19:58] <Saviq> lool, and no need to retrace
[19:58] <lool> Saviq: yeah
[19:58] <lool> Saviq: that's what I usually end up doing  :-)
[19:58] <lool> need to try the -S of apport-retrace some day
[19:58] <Saviq> lool, I was pretty successful with the retracer lately, yeah
[19:58] <lool> cool
[20:07] <avesnce> can somebody tell me where i can see those unavailabel pages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VoiceCall https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HiFi?
[20:08] <avesnce> those link from second porting guide, part Device changes/Audio
[20:47] <meeeeee> hey. can anybody tell me, why my nexus 7 w/ ubuntu touch always hangs itself uf a few minutes after bootig?
[21:37] <ahayzen> mhall119, ping
[21:42] <ahayzen> Is the Jenkins bot down? it hasn't done anything for 30mins+ and got a strange error on one of my merges 'FATAL: hudson.remoting.RequestAbortedException: java.io.IOException: Unexpected termination of the channel'
[21:43] <mhall119> ahayzen: sounds like it's down then
[21:43] <mhall119> fginther: ^^
[21:43] <ahayzen> '(pending - mediumtests-slave is offline )'
[21:44] <mhall119> ahayzen: fginther will rescue Jenkins when he's around again, until then you should go enjoy your weekend :)
[21:44] <ahayzen> mhall119, heh got lots of bugs to fix first :)
[21:45] <mhall119> as long as you're having fun with it
[21:45] <ahayzen> yep :)
[21:45] <ahayzen> some really nice fixes for the music-app today
[21:46] <mhall119> \o/
[21:46] <mhall119> the music app is looking so nice these days, I'm loving it
[21:47] <avence|jfltexx> yeh, i know c too bad... in alsa_pcm.c ... how i can cast -EINVAL to pcm pointer? pcm is struct
[22:03] <lool> ahayzen: Right, this was a timeout to reach the slave, and it's now completely offline
[22:03] <ahayzen> lool, :(
[22:03] <lool> ahayzen: so no further jobs will pass  :-/
[22:04] <lool> ahayzen: there's a planned outage of the internal canonical cloud where this runs
[22:05] <ahayzen> lool, ah ok when is it expected to be back?
[22:05] <lool> ahayzen: actually sorry, this outage was meant to be tomorrow evening, not tonight
[22:05] <lool> ahayzen: Let me check with IS
[22:07] <lool> ahayzen: down since one hour apparently
[22:07] <lool> ahayzen: but doesn't seem anyone is around
[22:08] <ahayzen> lool, yeah looks it https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone-apps-jenkins-bot/+karma
[22:08] <lool> ahayzen: can you see http://91.189.93.70:8080/computer/mediumtests-slave/builds ?
[22:08] <ahayzen> lool, yep
[22:09] <lool> ahayzen: anyway, I cant do anything about it (no idea how the slave is setup/run) and while I could escalate things to IS, I think this specific instance is NOT handled by IS
[22:09] <ahayzen> lool, ok
[22:09] <lool> ahayzen: so I feel bad to use the emergency number just to have IS discover that it's nothing they can help with
[22:10] <ahayzen> lool, thts fine don't worry
[22:10] <lool> ahayzen: what I'd suggest is that you run the AP tests manually on each mp
[22:10] <lool> ahayzen: and foce it in
[22:10] <lool> *force it in
[22:10] <lool> I think I can force things in at the jenkins level, but it's simplest if you just bzr merge things you've tested
[22:10] <ahayzen> lool, yeah we are running manual tests i mean we'll see if it up tomorrow then start manually merging if it isn't
[22:11] <lool> ahayzen: I do expect turbulance in any case tomorrow due to this planned outage; it was meant from sunday evening to monday morning
[22:11] <lool> Sun Oct 13 21:00 UTC - Mon Oct 14 04:00 UTC
[22:11] <lool> and the end results /should/ be instances running as before IIUC
[22:11] <ahayzen> IIUC....
[22:12] <lool> if I understand correctly
[22:12] <ahayzen> ah
[22:12] <ahayzen> too many acronyms :P
[22:12] <ahayzen> lool, anyway thanks for looking :)
[22:13] <lool> let me just mail the relevant folks in case they are addicted enough to open work mail over the weekend
[22:13] <lool> I guess I wont help their addiction with this
[22:26] <popey> We have awesome outage slots ☻
[22:30] <ahayzen> popey, just before release?
[22:31] <popey> indeed
[22:32] <ahayzen> hehe
[22:59] <anders3408> mhall119:  you here ?
[22:59] <anders3408> mhall119:  i really need you, having a private question :)
[23:57] <OrokuSaki> wonder if not having accept4 is causing hybris not to render my video decoder... guess I will add it and revert systemd and pulse patches and see what happens