[00:36] mfisch: test independent server using the code I wrote today: http://phablet.stgraber.org [00:43] slangasek, sorry to be pestering you - any pointers on how to proceed http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6224905/ ? [00:43] Saviq: pass -d [00:43] slangasek, fails calling gcc-4.7 and friends [00:43] which is "bypass build-dep checks" [00:43] oh [00:43] then, let's patch libhybris to fix that :) [00:44] slangasek, and then at the end "C compiler cannot create executables" [00:44] slangasek, I'm all ears [00:44] :) [00:47] Saviq: yeah, the source package needs some special handling in debian/rules... ifneq ($(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE),$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE)) // CXX=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE)-g++-4.7 // CC=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE)-gcc-4.7 // endif [00:47] * Saviq does [00:48] (I'm assuming those are the right target variable names, if not, then season to taste) [00:51] slangasek, it's building! [00:51] \o/ [00:52] slangasek, CC and CXX, FYI [00:52] ok, good :) [00:52] seems to have built, yay [00:52] very nice [00:52] * Saviq proposes fix [00:53] fwiw there's definitely a problem with cmake and cross-building, native builds install to /usr/lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) and cross-builds install to /usr/lib. so a lot of stuff I've been trying to cross-build this week has been failing at dh_install time because the files aren't in the right place [00:57] mfisch, lool: so just finished a test flash using a system-image server which imports from the main one, repacks the needed files and add some and everything looks good. The updates are recognized as valid by system-image-cli and the upgrader. [00:57] I just need to add tests for all that code and land it into trunk, probably on Tuesday, then I should be able to blog about how to run your own server (and some hints for porters) [00:59] slangasek, right [01:01] hmm, frustrating, my cross-built unity8 package is not displaying [01:01] makes it difficult to tell if the memory leak is fixed [01:05] slangasek, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/libhybris/ubuntu-cross/+merge/190778 [01:05] slangasek, any output? [01:09] slangasek, success, that started cross-building Mir now [01:10] ok... that was too fast [01:10] slangasek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6224957/ [01:14] Saviq: "output"? [01:14] slangasek, from unity8 [01:15] Saviq: nah, the display is completely blank. I was out of date wrt the archive anyway, so I just updated and have the display again [01:15] not gonna try to debug the cross-build itself right now, when I know cmake is currently a mess :/ [01:15] slangasek, ah, k - if you ever see "cannot unblank display" - press the power button and it should come back again [01:15] it didn't :) [01:15] slangasek, after some time, that is ;) [01:15] heh [01:16] slangasek, upstart will respawn unity8 that will tell powerd to unblank [01:16] slangasek, that might take some 20s until you see something happening [01:16] anyway [01:16] 3am here, gonna go now... [01:17] slangasek, thanks for all the help, no doubt I'll bug you about this again soon [01:17] have a good w/end! [01:17] o/ [01:17] Saviq: unity8 didn't die, it just didn't give any output. as for mir, it's clearly trying to do the wrong thing by cross-installing python2.7, I'll have a look here [01:17] Saviq: g'night - you too :) === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [02:00] hummmm [02:00] developers ? [02:00] lol [02:55] Saviq: sigh, cross-building mir is going to take a while, the protobuf package is a total mess wrt multiarch... I wish somebody had bothered me about this /before/ the freeze... === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ [04:32] nik90: the apparmor policy has to be adjusted. can you point me at the failing click package? [04:33] nik90: and also file a bug against apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu? [04:38] Saviq: of possible interest to you - won't be pushed to the archive until T opens: lp:~vorlon/ubuntu/saucy/protobuf/multiarch [05:27] Does anyone know when build 94 hits devel-proposed? [05:34] I've just tried flashing the latest nightly to my Verizon Galaxy Nexus (toro), should it be stuck on the Google logo for a while? [05:35] I've cleared data, cache, and system using an android recovery then flashed the system image using fastboot, followed by flashing a modified ubuntu touch zip === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine [05:53] flashed boot too, still stuck on the Google screen... [05:55] Saviq: ok, have gotten as far as cross-installing the build-deps of mir (using protobuf from my branch, and a systemtap that I've just pushed to saucy-proposed); then of course it fails in cmake configury (can't find boost), someone else will have to take it from there === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ [07:09] * snwh is back (gone 09:32:48) [07:11] snwh: well, welcome back. [07:11] nhaines, thanks lol [07:12] but i never left [07:13] lol [07:17] stgraber: Hey, it /looks/ like the latest cdimage wasn't picked up by system-image? === Noskcaj10 is now known as Noskcaj [07:51] slangasek, thanks! [08:16] jdstrand: The failing click package clock-app in image 94 [08:16] jdstrand: reporting bug now [08:27] jdstrand: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1239073 [08:27] Ubuntu bug 1239073 in apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Clock app with calendar policy group unable to access EDS" [Undecided,New] [11:32] In Canada, the WIND Mobile network uses a frequency called AWS, with bands 1700/2100. Do the current nightlies for Ubuntu touch located in http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ support AWS? [11:33] My intent is to purchase a Google LG Nexus 4(mako) for 250$CA in the coming days, but want to ensure the UBUNTU touch will work with AWS first. Wind Mobile offers unlimited mobile data for 33$CA/month. [11:36] omac: is that GSM? [11:36] My wife has a Samsung Galaxy S4 and it rocks, but I would prefer to get a phone model that Ubuntu Touch supports from the get-go. From what I understand the better spec from the listed mako, grouper, maguro, manta is the mako and it comes with 16GB of storage. [11:38] yeah, i have the mako [11:38] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AWS_devices [11:38] popey are you in Canada? [11:38] nope [11:39] UK [11:39] Do you use Wind mobile? [11:39] k. [11:39] I know in UK they use GSM. [11:39] Yeah, that's why I asked if Wind is GSM [11:40] We don't have GSM in Canada. The GSM frequencies might be used for a different protocol in Canada. [11:41] I know that Galaxy S4 works on Wind Mobile. My wife has it. [11:41] ah that's LTE? [11:41] yeah, it rocks. [11:41] I don't think we support that yet. [11:45] On November 23, 2012, it was confirmed that, through modifying device settings, it was possible for the device to use LTE Band 4 (AWS).[2] [11:46] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_4 [11:46] pretty sure a firmware updated undid that [11:47] I did get it confirmed at Wind Mobile that they do offer Nexus 4 devices with android that run on their network. [11:47] My question is do the Ubuntu Touch current images have support for modifying the phone to use AWS? [11:48] I dont think we've tested that. Not sure we have any developers in Canada [11:48] So I couldn't say it does. [11:49] Well let's put it this way. LG Nexus 4 works on Android on Wind Mobile. [11:49] Wind Mobile in Canada is only AWS protocol. Nothing else. [11:50] So if android has support for AWS built-in the LG-Nexus firmware, then ubuntu touch should be able to take advantage of it right? [11:51] I wouldn't speculate on that [11:52] Someone needs to try it. [11:52] I don't have 250$ handy to buy the phone to try it. [11:56] If someone had an LG Nexus 4 phone with Android installed and WindMobile Sim activated, does the ubuntu touch team have enough know-how to get the info necessary to make it happen and then send the phone back? I could make the sacrifice, but I wouldn't be living with the phone until the ubuntu touch team returned it to me. [11:57] What's the physical mailing address to send this kind of hardware? I'm not asking for a specific person's name, but it would be necessary to send it to someone. [11:57] From what I hear ubuntu is located in Isle of Man now. [12:00] No, we're all around the world [12:00] isle of man is just where the company is registered [12:00] I would recommend sending a mail to the phone mailing list. [12:00] see if anyone else has tried [12:01] https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/ [12:01] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone join that team to subscribe to the mailing list [12:40] Is there an 'offical' way to store date in uTouch-Apps? | http://askubuntu.com/q/357126 === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc [13:15] Hey folks. Kinda struggling with ubuntu-touch on my nexus 10. [13:16] Is there a "Software Center" type place to get apps? [13:18] "more suggestions" on the applications page [13:19] lucenut: you need to login to ubuntu one account in system settings to reveal more suggestions [13:19] popey, oh, is that new ? [13:19] well, i mis-spoke [13:19] you need to login to be able to install [13:19] right [13:19] content should still be there [13:20] I have logged into ubuntu one. Just not sure how to get something like skype for instance. [13:20] I type "skype" into the search box and nothing happens. [13:20] you need to be patient ... (probably very patient) ... until someone offers it :) [13:20] Ah. [13:21] skype isnt yet available [13:21] (read: there is nothing more than you can see when expanding the "more suggestions" category) [13:21] So these "apps" are not the same programs that ran on other ubuntu? [13:21] the store on the phone is not the same as the ubuntu software centre [13:21] right, the phone does not have an Xserver (like android doesnt) ... [13:21] most graphical apps need X [13:22] (from the SW center i mean) [13:22] Anyone know if the developer preview will "update" into the real release after the 17th? [13:22] yes [13:22] ubuntu touch is kind of a "rolling release", you will constantly get updates [13:22] OH NOES! He said the R word! [13:22] * popey emails omgubuntu [13:22] haha [13:23] My brightness goes half after about 30 seconds, then screen shuts off after another 30. [13:23] sounds about right [13:23] How can I change that? [13:23] power saving in action [13:23] not sure that's hooked up to the GUI yet [13:23] you cant yet (missing feature) ... [13:23] K [13:23] might need to futz around in the command line to do that [13:23] nope [13:23] ah okay [13:24] there is no mechanism to store such settings yet [13:24] Is this browser Firefox? [13:24] Or is FF available? [13:24] nope [13:24] nope, a newly written one from scratch [13:24] feel free to ask firefox for a port ☻ [13:24] and no, FF isnt available [13:24] (yet) [13:24] :) [13:25] Is the "Messaging" app for instant messaging? [13:25] thats sms [13:25] we're only nearing the v1.0 release, i guess nobody will want to port before this is out [13:25] Ah [13:25] so they can rely on a half way stablke API [13:26] * ogra_ bets 14.04 will have a good bunch of 3rd party apps too [13:26] Is there any instant messaging? [13:27] I typed "instant mess" and get nothing. [13:27] like msn/yahoo? no, not that I'm aware of [13:27] * popey already has "instant mess" [13:27] IRC... [13:27] you should see my desk [13:27] not yet, I expect some of those to arrive after we release 13.10 [13:27] friends offers some IM, doesnt it ? [13:27] not tried it [13:27] * ogra_ neither [13:28] Anyone know dual boot is going to be available? As it is I can't do much of anything. [13:28] The browser is OK. [13:29] The Facebook app is bad. [13:29] well, its the browser too :) [13:29] it is essentially the mobile website i think [13:29] * ogra_ doesnt use facewbook, but the G+ app is like that [13:30] What do you do when something like FB is running in the smaller pane on the right side of the screen? [13:30] How do you make it fullscreen? [13:31] I haven't figured out how to shuffle multiple apps I guess. [13:31] you swipe from the right [13:32] Nope. I closed the other apps and opened just FB and it's stuck in the right side. Swiping from the right does nothing. [13:32] swipe in from right works if you have more than one app open [13:33] right. what would you swipe to if there is only one app [13:33] This is the only app I have open [13:34] I will need this dual-boot or the family will kill me. [13:34] I just tried this while on the road for a week. [13:34] * popey installs 94 on grouper [13:35] well, updates [13:35] I properly love this new update system [13:36] * ogra_ too [13:36] I don't think I like the music thing. Do lots of linux-heads feel the need to buy Britney Spears new album? [13:37] Can I run unbuntu touch on my galaxy tab 3 10.1 [13:38] lucenut: i might, for my daughter [13:38] lucenut: you can easily switch off the online components by turning off the specific dash bits [13:38] I would be more interested in being shown how to transfer MY music onto this device. [13:39] just plug it into your desktop [13:39] yeah, drag and drop [13:39] it should pop up a filemanager [13:39] \o/ [13:40] eek, grouper just started flickering madly [13:41] OK, I just signed into a google account. [13:41] But the screen is so tiny now and it won't zoom. [13:41] Can't "confirm" it. [13:45] i like the new preview transitions in the dash === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine === makimac_ is now known as makimac [14:51] did phablet just update for support of the nexus 7 2013? [15:10] B13B: no [15:48] Going to swap qcom/media-legacy for someone elses... I think that is the best idea yet === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ [16:05] Did anyone else notice ubuntu touch slow down after the last update, or is is just me? [16:06] yeah its using MIR now and hasnt been optimized [16:07] when did unity go to Mir by default? what date? [16:08] build 90~92 ish [16:08] rootfs... 10-10-2013? [16:08] does that have mir by default? [16:09] tablet charging right now.. oh that would be sweet [16:09] oct 10th on devel proposed [16:09] ahhh so not on release okay [16:09] I havn't done much in the last few days so i'm not sure if it's regular release yet. [16:09] but I'd assume its there. [16:10] when it powers on I will see if surfaceflinger is running. =) [16:11] yep.. its running [16:11] flinger === jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp === JHOSMAN is now known as Guest16236 === porchaso0 is now known as porchas0 === porchas0 is now known as porchaso0 === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine [16:45] hi. can somebody help me with porting UT for S4 i9505? [16:50] i have multiple error: messages on hardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/amix.c compilation. Like this: hardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/alsa_pcm.c:910:9: error: return makes pointer from integer without a cast [-Werror] [16:50] cc1: all warnings being treated as errors === sbm is now known as ggrnd0 [16:55] As is done compiling my QT project in order to have the executable? (to run from the terminal) === ggrnd0 is now known as sbm === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|afk === sbm is now known as avesnce === avesnce is now known as ggrnd0 === ggrnd0 is now known as avesnce === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ [17:22] Sorry...had to step away for a bit. Cool, so the slow down is caused by Mir not being optimized yet. Got it. [17:22] I have pretty high hopes for this OS so far. === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine [17:55] As is done compiling my QT project in order to have the executable? (to run from the terminal) [17:56] mhall119: ¿ [18:01] JHOSMAN_: that's a rather broad question. Do you mean a project created using the Ubuntu SDK? [18:03] ogra_: so https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/session-manager-touch/pulseaudio-expect-daemon/+merge/190788 is still marked 'needs review'... is that something you could merge / upload? I don't have commit rights on that branch. [18:04] can sombody help with compilation UT for i9505 10.1? i have this error [18:04] hardware/samsung/libalsa-intf/arec.c:435:30: error: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions [-Werror=sign-compare] [18:04] cc1: all warnings being treated as errors [18:06] this errors amount about 50 [18:31] slangasek, yes, itr needs to go through the spreadsheet first ... i added it there [18:32] ogra_: hi, are ZIP installers at cdimage.ubuntu.com deprecated, and system-image is the only way to install ubuntu touch now? [18:32] Tassadar, no, it is the suppreted and default way but the zip stuff should still work (we dont test it and dont really care for bugs from there since the setup is completely different) [18:38] hm, okay, thanks, I'll try to switch to that system.img-based builds with my multiboot thingy then [18:39] *those [18:40] lool: ^^ around? can you approve this fix to the pulseaudio user session job in ubuntu-touch-session, so ogra_ can merge/upload? [18:42] ogra_: one more thing, in system-image builds you don't use device's system partition at all, it is just an .img inside /data partition, correct? [18:43] Hey guys, I didn't expect anyone at this time. I urgently need to know (giving demo on Monday), does i18n.dtr work when launching the app from qtc? [18:50] karni: got an example app and language? I can try it here [18:50] I'm having trouble getting the latest build (the 11th) to work on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus (toro). Anyone willing to help? [18:51] popey: yes, let me send it to you, thanks. in the mean time, I'm trying as well with Saviq [18:51] k [18:52] can somebody help me with build alsa for i9505 10.1? [18:55] popey: Sent it to you. What we did with Saviq was to put the .mo file in /usr/share/ , but that didn't seem to help (although I'm sure it's a step forward!) [18:56] Saviq: Can we move here? I'll be trying to make it work along as well, sent it to popey [18:56] karni, yeah [18:57] karni, yeah, so without .cpp - just put it in /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/domain.mo [18:57] popey: I tried to launch it like so: export LANG=ko; qmlscene --desktop_hint_file=.... soundboard.qml [18:57] Saviq: gotcha [18:57] ah [18:57] karni, and then i18n.dtr("domain", "foo") should work [18:57] popey: btw after you launch it, just press space. you should see translated "Thank you" into korean [18:57] Saviq: trying right away!! :) [18:58] I'm so happy you guys are here [18:58] Saviq is gonna be more help than me ☻ [18:59] popey: I'm doing something wrong. And this is critical if I want to show off i18n at the demo, but yes, Saviq is also helping me out. [18:59] I'm basically fighting for one i18n here, and I think it's worth showing in action. [19:01] Saviq: sadly, I still see "Thank you" [19:01] text: i18n.dtr("soundboard", "Thank you") [19:01] karni@laptop:~/soundboard$ ls /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo [19:01] /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo [19:01] run like so: $ export LANG=ko; qmlscene --desktop_file_hint soundboard.desktop soundboard.qml [19:02] karni, let me try something [19:02] content of the .po file at the end is [19:02] #: soundboard.qml:58 [19:02] msgid "Thank you" [19:02] msgstr "ê°ì¬í©ëë¤" [19:02] If you don't see korean, ignore that. It's my screen/13.10 setup failing. [19:02] I see korean locally [19:02] yeah, I don't ;) [19:03] Saviq: I sent you the tar, in case you want to have a look. I'll try to regenerate the mo file. [19:04] the text shows up after you launch the app and press space [19:07] Saviq: this might be interesting, didn't see it before [19:08] actually, now it doesn't want to create a new .po file for me [19:09] changed my terminal, created .po file [19:11] karni, ok, so it works for pl [19:11] karni, LANGUAGE=ko [19:12] uhh [19:12] * karni tries [19:12] karni, LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8; LANGUAGE=ko; LC_ALL=ko_KR.UTF-8 [19:12] if you want everything [19:13] slangasek, ogra_: Looked good, approved/happroved/added to landing plan! :-) [19:13] yeah, I tried from scratch and it didn't work. now trying your suggestion [19:13] slangasek, ogra_: Upload when you like to [19:13] karni, sorry, I always forget there's a bunch of those [19:13] ogra_: will you take care of this? (Again, no commit rights on the branch) [19:13] karni, you can always verify you have stuff set up with `locale` [19:13] karni, now... [19:13] slangasek: Hmm we should fix this, core-devs should be able to commit [19:13] karni, problem is the text rendering is wrong :/ [19:14] Saviq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228019/ [19:14] lool: that is a losing battle that I have tried fighting for years [19:14] Saviq: I still see "Thank you" in my app. So I must have done something wrong. [19:14] karni, let me send you my .mo [19:14] this is how I create the po file: msginit -i messages.pot -o ko.po [19:14] karni, and don't export everything [19:14] karni, just run: [19:14] LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=ko LC_ALL=ko_KR.UTF-8 qmlscene soundboard.qml [19:14] "the authoritative source branches should always be writable by the same people who can upload" - obvious to me, but never gets done whenever a team of people who aren't core-devs need a branch :/ [19:14] Saviq: oh ok [19:14] karni, to avoid stuff breaking in your bash ;) [19:15] ogra_, slangasek: I'll update the branch and upload [19:15] karni, I'm doing this on desktop, btw, not on device - let me try there [19:15] lool: cheers [19:15] Saviq: hah!! check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228023/ [19:15] Saviq: Me too, I don't "care" about the device, don't worry [19:15] I want to demo that part on the PC [19:16] karni, yeah, did you install the language pack, to generate the locale? [19:16] yes [19:16] slangasek, ogra_: uploded [19:16] Let me double check that. [19:16] *uploaded [19:16] karni, log out of the console and back in, and I'm sending you my .tar back [19:16] language-pack-ko is already the newest version [19:16] Saviq: thanks! [19:16] karni, btw, I use poedit to translate - it also generates .mo on save [19:16] oh, nice [19:17] * karni awaits the tar, still not working here [19:17] karni, en route, you'll have both pl.mo and ko.mo there [19:17] Saviq: sorry to be a pain [19:17] Saviq: great [19:17] karni, you're not [19:18] You're really helpful. [19:18] karni, with that, and the .mo copied to /usr/share/locale/{pl,ko}/LC_MESSAGES/soundboard.mo [19:18] karni, ah and remember [19:19] * karni copies [19:19] karni, you didn't have dtr("soundboard", "Thank You") in the qml [19:19] karni, but tr("Thank You") [19:19] karni, for that you'll need Binding { target: i18n; property: "domain"; value: "soundboard" } [19:20] Saviq: yeah I added dtr after I sent it to popey [19:20] dtr("soundboard", ..) [19:20] * karni tries [19:21] karni, assuming you're using pl on your desktop - it should Just Work™ with pl translations [19:21] karni, and if you change LANGUAGE - it should do Korean [19:21] oh and now it even displayed correctly [19:22] karni, yeah, don't export LANG [19:22] karni, just LANGUAGE=ko [19:22] Saviq: guess what. Polish works, Korean doesn't. It must be some sort of support shortage? [19:22] Saviq: korean worked for you?? [19:22] karni, rather the fact that locale isn't available [19:22] karni, sudo locale-gen ko_KR.UTF-8 [19:23] karni, the bash complaints would suggest so - and I'd log out/back in for good measure [19:23] Saviq: 1. you're amazing 2. you're right.. rendering isn't good :<< [19:23] karni, unexport LANG [19:23] karni, or reset it [19:23] karni, just set LANGUAGE [19:23] karni, LANGUAGE=ko [19:24] Saviq: yeah, it's working now. just the rendering.. is, well. you saw it. [19:24] karni, it's good [19:24] karni, without LANG [19:24] oh [19:24] karni, rendering I mean [19:24] * karni tries [19:24] karni, scrap your termina [19:24] l [19:24] karni, start again [19:24] yeah, lanched a new one [19:24] karni, and start with LANGUAGE=ko qmlscene soundboard.qml [19:25] WOOOOO [19:25] everything looks good then, as far as I can tell [19:25] Saviq: <3 [19:25] karni, awesome [19:25] Saviq: You saved the i18n part of the demo [19:25] karni, happy to help [19:25] Saviq: I owe you a good drink! [19:25] Thanks so much for your time! [19:25] karni, no worries, kill'em'all there :) [19:25] popey: FYI with priceless help from Saviq and a few bumps, we pulled it off [19:25] * Saviq afk [19:26] Saviq: haha, thanks! [19:28] I did nothing ☻ [19:28] \o/ well done [19:28] good luck with the demo karni [19:29] popey: do you see the clock 1.0 app centered correctly on nexus 4? [19:29] Thanks popey :) [19:29] the 1.0 version seems to launch fine now, but it's not centered [19:29] I might have improperly cleaned local modifications [19:30] getting so many crashes since Friday [19:31] lool: no, bug filed [19:31] popey: ah I removed the clock, but it's no in appstore [19:31] lalala [19:31] wat [19:31] popey: thanks, was looking for confirmation before filing one [19:31] wasn't sure I had a clean install [19:31] bug 1239088 [19:31] bug 1239088 in Ubuntu Clock App "Display of clock app is too wide and offset to the right" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1239088 [19:32] thanks [19:32] np [19:32] popey: to get a clean install, I tried to remove the click and reinstall it, but couldn't find it in store [19:32] yeah, some of the apps aren't in the store yet [19:32] popey: is it planned? [19:32] yes [19:32] ok, all good then [19:32] popey: thanks! [19:33] you kicking off 95? [19:33] popey: BTW, preinstalled clicks now listed in e.g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/pending/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.manifest thanks to ogra_ [19:33] popey: not particularly yet; did you need one? [19:33] no, just wondered [19:33] I probably will kick one end of sunday unless something urgent pops up [19:33] ok, thats cool [19:33] so that we get fresh test results monday morning [19:33] i know music app guys are still beavering away [19:33] yeah; did the mega merge go in? [19:34] yes [19:34] more pending [19:34] bug 1239147 is bizarre [19:34] bug 1239147 in Mir "App preview is upside down and inside out" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1239147 [19:34] i took my devices along to a lug meet today, took 5 mins for someone to break a device [19:35]