[06:37] <zeref> :YawwwwN:
[06:37] <zeref> herro ubuntu-za
[07:02] <nlsthzn> o/
[07:07] <Kilos> morning nlsthzn and others
[07:10] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos?
[07:10] <Kilos> ok ty nlsthzn and you?
[07:10] <nlsthzn> always good uncle Kilos:)
[07:10] <Kilos> you clever, can one wget http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov17bRbtCxU
[07:11] <nlsthzn> I never tried to use wget for youtube vids... I installed minitube to do that...
[07:11] <Kilos> sis wants it but i dont wanna go there, data min atm
[07:12] <nlsthzn> if you want I can rip it and give you a link to use wget with?
[07:12] <Kilos> please nlsthzn 
[07:13] <nlsthzn> what bitrate would you prefer, normal or HD (will effect size)
[07:14] <Kilos> how much diffs?
[07:14] <nlsthzn> dunno.. let me see
[07:15] <nlsthzn> ah that an old song... reminds me of growing up :)
[07:15] <Kilos> hd is high definition hey? its audio i want not a video
[07:16] <Kilos> yeah very catchy song too. play it loud and now now everyone is singing it
[07:17] <nlsthzn> well the HD will also have better audio ... so what I will do is get the vid, rip the audio and make a link for you...
[07:17] <Kilos> ty so much
[07:19] <Kilos> i go feed sheep quick
[07:19] <nlsthzn> no hd available... so got 360p file is 21mb
[07:27] <zeref> nlsthzn: Could you perhaps provide insight into http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19331550/database-change-with-software-update?
[07:28] <Kilos> wow
[07:28] <nlsthzn> zeref: wow... way above my paygrade...
[07:28] <Kilos> isnt the audio only about 4m
[07:28] <nlsthzn> Kilos: that is the size of the video... busy installing a converter... will have a smaller file soon :)
[07:28] <Kilos> ah cool ty
[07:29] <zeref> nlsthzn: lol
[07:30] <kbmonkey> hello there
[07:30] <Kilos> morning kbmonkey 
[07:31] <kbmonkey> morning Kilos 
[07:33] <nlsthzn> just busy uploading... link will be forthcoming shortly... file size 4.2mb
[07:33]  * Kilos hates youtube i dont want videos of everything
[07:33] <Kilos> thats great ty nlsthzn 
[07:33] <nlsthzn> why then go to a site dedicated to videos 
[07:33] <kbmonkey> lol Kilos  - I agree man :)
[07:33] <nlsthzn> that is like going to the bank and complaining cause you hate money :p
[07:33] <Kilos> its the only link i found for that song nlsthzn 
[07:34] <Kilos> i bang to just go to other places
[07:34] <kbmonkey> zeref, you can either use a migration tool, that requires some setup. or you can write the sql to do the upgrade and run it during an upgrade process.
[07:34] <Kilos> but every thing nowadays is youtube/watch
[07:39] <confluency> You can extract the sound from youtube videos. It's a bit involved, but it's possible. And it's often impossible to find really really obscure songs anywhere.
[07:39] <confluency> (...else.)
[07:40] <zeref> kbmonkey: thanks, how would the sql do it? could you perhaps send linky or example?
[07:40] <confluency> You download it with youtube-dl, and then use some app related to mplayer. I can't remember what it is; it has changed recently (the old one became obsolete).
[07:40] <confluency> Oh, snap. I see nlsthzn already mentioned this. :)
[07:41] <confluency> I think there are howtos on the intertubes.
[07:41] <kbmonkey> you can use youtube-dl, a command line tool to download yt videos
[07:41] <confluency> Yes.
[07:41] <kbmonkey> I also use videotop instead
[07:42] <kbmonkey> also, you can play a youtube link directly through mplayer, and possibly pipe it through to extract the audio, all without downloading
[07:42] <Kilos> the trick is to rip the audio from there without having to see the whole video too
[07:42] <nlsthzn> yup... video was 20mb
[07:42] <nlsthzn> audio rip only 4mb
[07:42] <kbmonkey> it will need to download the entire stream regardless of what you do with it, unfortunately
[07:43] <Kilos> thats why it helps to have friends with uncapped
[07:43] <nlsthzn> I used minitube to get the vid and soundkonverter for the audio... both which are just gui front-ends to all the decoders already on the system (ffmpeg etc)
[07:43] <nlsthzn> +1
[07:44] <Kilos> Maaz, nlsthzn ==
[07:44] <Kilos> ai!
[07:44] <nlsthzn> :'(
[07:44] <Kilos> Maaz, nlsthzn ++
[07:44] <Kilos> Maaz, karma
[07:44] <Maaz> Kilos: Sorry...
[07:44] <Kilos> ai! i forgot that too
[07:45] <nlsthzn> lol
[07:45] <kbmonkey> zeref, I cant help you there. the script is totally dependant on your database structure
[07:45] <Kilos> Maaz, karma nlsthzn 
[07:45] <Maaz> Kilos: nlsthzn has karma of 2
[07:45] <kbmonkey> you will need to learn how to do database alters, and script those by hand
[07:45] <nlsthzn> whoohoo...
[07:45] <kbmonkey> what is karma?
[07:45] <nlsthzn> stuff you can give in for toys
[07:45] <nlsthzn> at the end of your life
[07:46] <nlsthzn> :p
[07:46] <kbmonkey> lol!
[07:46] <Kilos> its like a gauge of how helpfull a person has been
[07:46] <kbmonkey> my karma ran over my dogma
[07:47] <nlsthzn> >.<
[07:48] <Kilos> but peeps have forgotten to do the ++ when someone has been helped
[07:48] <Kilos> Maaz, karma superfly 
[07:48] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly has karma of 23
[07:48] <Kilos> hes the leader methinks
[07:49] <Kilos> oh nlsthzn kbmonkey weird things here, my 500g drive that was so crashed that bios didnt even see it is working again but with power from another psu outside pc
[07:49] <Kilos> and fsck -f from maverick
[07:50] <Kilos> diskutility shows it has 3 bad sectors
[07:50] <nlsthzn> weird
[07:50] <Kilos> i think my m/board is corrupt
[07:51] <nlsthzn> sounds like the PSU
[07:51] <nlsthzn> perhaps
[07:52] <nlsthzn> Kilos: that mp3 may have some adds of other songs at the end it seems... perhaps you might need to edit it slightly... if you have audacity
[07:54] <Kilos> np ty nlsthzn , nice song though hey?
[07:54] <nlsthzn> well it does bring back a lot of memories :)
[07:54] <nlsthzn> when I was a wee lad :p
[07:55] <nlsthzn> oh I don't think anyone was here when I mentioned it last time... I am going to be a dad again :D
[07:55] <Kilos> oh my congrats nlsthzn 
[07:58] <Kilos> but the child will be an arab
[07:58] <Kilos> mommy must come home for birthing or then you got visa probs again
[08:01] <kbmonkey> zeref, I'll write you a reply on SO. Do you have a sample code that connects/creates a sqlite db in python I can play with?
[08:03] <kbmonkey> oh that is weird Kilos, best to not use the psu again in case it damages something for good!
[08:03] <kbmonkey> wow nlsthzn congrats on the new little one :)
[08:04] <Kilos> i just put it in here a week or so ago kbmonkey because the other one was giving probs
[08:08] <nlsthzn> thanks all... and yes, visa's and passports are going to be a PITA... but what to do 
[08:08] <Kilos> thats part of the reason im stretching data so i can maybe upgrade the pc
[08:09] <nlsthzn> what system you got now uncle Kilos?
[08:09] <Kilos> nlsthzn, maybe its easier to get the child registered there and then sort visa stuff with za
[08:10] <nlsthzn> Kilos: we won't be going home for the birth etc so it will have to happen that way
[08:10] <Kilos> im on unity 12.04 here now but have another drive with kubuntu 12.04 and an old one with maverick
[08:10] <nlsthzn> I meant hardware...
[08:11] <Kilos> oh a p4 dual core by gigabyte
[08:11] <nlsthzn> I have a mobo / cpu /ram here that I can get sent to SA with the next oppertunity...
[08:11] <nlsthzn> it is a core 2 quad Q6600...
[08:11] <nlsthzn> was the first quad out there but still rock solid...
[08:11] <Kilos> whew that sounds good
[08:12] <Kilos> any quad is better than dual
[08:12] <nlsthzn> let me see what I can arange ... no promises on when however...
[08:12] <Kilos> these old ones that use ddr ram you battle to get ram
[08:12] <nlsthzn> I won't sent the cpu cooler, that to big and heavy... will need to arrange for one inside SA
[08:12] <Kilos> np ty
[08:12] <nlsthzn> this one uses DDR2... it has 4gb
[08:13] <Kilos> wonderful ddr2 is easily available
[08:15] <zeref> kbmonkey: http://pastebin.com/NrtmvGVM
[08:15] <nlsthzn> cool, because more memory is always good :)
[08:16] <Kilos> yeah the drr comes only in 1g and smaller and i tried 2 1g's here but they clashed
[08:16] <Kilos> hehe
[08:16] <Kilos> murphy-as jy kan sukkel sal jy
[08:18] <Kilos> Maaz, karma kbmonkey
[08:18] <Maaz> Kilos: kbmonkey has karma of 2
[08:19] <Kilos> Maaz, karmaladder
[08:19] <Maaz> Kilos: 0: superfly (23), 1: cocooncrash (19), 2: tumbleweed (16), 3: maiatoday (11), 4: drubin (10), 5: Vhata (8), 6: morgs (8), 7: Kilos (8), 8: highvoltage (7), 9: confluency (6), 10: inetpro (4), 11: nuvolari (3), 12: Symmetria (3), 13: ubuntu-za (2), 14: russell (2), 15: |3o|3 (2), 16: yusuf (2), 17: nlsthzn (2), 18: queery (2), 19: maverick (2), 20: magespawn
[08:19] <Maaz> (2), 21: kbmonkey (2), 22: sars (1), 23: youtube-dl (1), 24: ScorpKing (1), 25: Web Afric…
[08:19] <kbmonkey> thanks zeref, I am having a look :]
[08:24] <Kilos> hi Mezenir 
[08:24] <Mezenir> hi kilos
[08:25] <Mezenir> how are you?
[08:26] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[08:27] <Kilos> what a schlep tablets are
[08:28] <Kilos> android same as everything else, each manufacturer has to change things
[08:30] <nlsthzn> android is the awesome
[08:30] <Kilos> yeah but too much for old heads to figure
[08:30] <Kilos> keeps sis busy though
[08:31] <Mezenir> good thanks
[08:31] <nlsthzn> android is easier than learning ubuntu ;)
[08:31] <Kilos> no there aint a help channel on irc
[08:32] <Kilos> ubuntu was a lekker experience for me
[08:32] <Kilos> found help and friends
[08:32]  * nlsthzn wonders if Kilos has actually looked for help... there is IRC channels for everything 
[08:33] <Kilos> haha
[08:33] <nlsthzn> there are channels >.<
[08:33] <nlsthzn> stupid grammer
[08:33] <Kilos> she needs the help not me
[08:34] <Kilos> i see andchat is the app for them
[08:36] <nlsthzn> for IRC... 
[08:36] <nlsthzn> there are many apps that can be used...
[08:36] <nlsthzn> the trick is to get one that has a way to autocomplete nicks cause it is always annoying writitng them out and getting them wrong
[08:36] <Kilos> lemme see if she can work out how to find the song onna stick first
[08:36] <Kilos> hehe
[08:37] <nlsthzn> needs a file browser
[08:37] <Kilos> her model doesnt have a nice user guide yet
[08:37]  * nlsthzn needs to get his phone to see what he uses ;p
[08:37] <Kilos> so i got her some common android userguide
[08:38] <Kilos> and she has her daughters fone book as well
[08:38] <nlsthzn> es file explorer is good and powerful
[08:39] <nlsthzn> works well to browse files
[08:39] <nlsthzn> copy/paste etc.
[08:39] <Kilos> lemme see what she has
[08:45] <kbmonkey> zeref, I updated my answer with your code sample. I hope that helps!
[08:45] <kbmonkey> this is kinda fun, I always wanted to try sqlite in python, now I have :]
[08:46] <zeref> ahhh, thanks kbmonkey, that was what I was looking for :)
[08:50] <zeref> just one thing. After each make_* statement, shouldnt you connection.commit()?
[08:51] <kbmonkey> noo problem. you should let me know if you put your program on github or somewhere, it sounds interesting
[08:52] <kbmonkey> it does not matter to commit each time, it works the same
[08:53] <zeref> k cool
[08:53] <zeref> it's on github atm
[08:53] <zeref> https://github.com/zerefs/letmenotifyu
[08:53] <kbmonkey> it looks like alters or any ddl statement (data definition schema change) is not put in transactions, so they happen even without any commit :/
[08:54] <kbmonkey> which is strange, buy ya
[08:55] <zeref> o0o0
[08:55] <kbmonkey> but you need the commit to save the new version insert row XD
[08:55] <zeref> true.
[09:18] <Kilos> Maaz, kbmonkey ++ [[For doing geek stuff]]
[09:19] <Kilos> hmm... he didnt complain
[09:24] <zeref> kbmonkey: 
[09:25] <charl> good morning
[09:25] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:25]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[09:25] <Kilos> hi charl 
[09:25] <charl> hi Kilos 
[09:26] <charl> how's it going
[09:26] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[09:26] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[09:26] <Kilos> good ty and there?
[09:26] <charl> pretty good thanks
[09:26] <charl> i'm finally starting to get over this cold
[09:26] <charl> it's one of those colds that lasts for a while
[09:26] <Kilos> eish
[09:27] <Kilos> eat lotsa raw onion on sarmies
[09:27] <charl> ooh raw onion, i think i'll stick to orange juice :)
[09:28] <Kilos> eish they dont make men like they used to
[09:28] <charl> :D
[09:28] <Kilos> onion is a natural cold/flu blocker fighter
[09:28] <charl> i should actually eat more onion
[09:28] <charl> it's nice to eat finely chopped onion on mash potato
[09:29] <Kilos> yeah thats good too
[09:29] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[09:29] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[09:29] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[09:29] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[09:29] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[09:55] <charl> so i was trying manjaro linux through the week inside virtualbox
[09:56] <charl> looks quite good and is very fast
[09:56] <charl> takes a while to get used to pacman and different packages but it's rather fast too
[09:56] <charl> looks very promising
[09:57] <charl> i took a look at setting up arch "plain vanilla" but to have to do an entire manual install in 2013 feels a little too ridiculous
[10:04] <kbmonkey> morning charl 
[10:05] <kbmonkey> hey kilos you giving me more karma? he he
[10:05] <Kilos> ya
[10:05] <kbmonkey> thanks man. I can cash it in for toys later...
[10:05] <Kilos> might encourage you to be here more often
[10:05] <Kilos> hehe
[10:06] <Kilos> you gotta help peeps to get karma though
[10:06] <charl> hi kbmonkey 
[10:06] <zeref> hey kbmonkey: 
[10:07] <charl> hi zeref 
[10:07] <kbmonkey> sorry Kilos - I prepared some roast veg I put in the oven. I can't wait
[10:08] <zeref> say user upgrades from 0.1.0 to 0.1.3, they will miss the changes for 0.1.1 and 0.1.2, so the database_verions variable needs to be updated :)
[10:08] <zeref> hi charl 
[10:09] <Kilos> yummy
[10:09] <kbmonkey> zeref, it will upgrade each version they missed
[10:09] <kbmonkey> ah... yes I see what you are saying. good catch zeref :]
[10:10] <zeref> :)
[10:35] <magespawn> good day all
[10:35] <Kilos> hi there magespawn 
[10:35] <kbmonkey> hello magespawn 
[10:36] <magespawn> hey Kilos kbmonkey 
[10:37] <charl> hi magespawn 
[10:37] <charl> wb Snowy2 
[10:37] <kbmonkey> woohoo, the oven veg are done, I think I am going to have a chow today XD
[10:37] <magespawn> howdy charl 
[10:37] <charl> how's the new job magespawn 
[10:37] <magespawn> hectic, lots of learning
[10:38] <kbmonkey> what technology are you learning about magespawn ?
[10:41] <magespawn> asterisk and sip 
[10:42] <magespawn> learning how to integrate a sip door phone into a asterisk server
[10:42] <kbmonkey> that is some exciting stuff
[10:43] <Symmetria> sup
[10:43] <Symmetria> so from the first of november I will officially have a new job title
[10:43] <Symmetria> ;p
[10:43] <magespawn> indeed, and the door phone runs over a wifi network that is about 5kms away from the reception
[10:43] <magespawn> hey Symmetria 
[10:44] <Symmetria> <== head of IP Strategy - Liquid Telecommunications
[10:44] <magespawn> so no more freelance set your own hours
[10:45] <magespawn> kbmonkey, one of these http://ipdoorphones.com/
[10:45] <Symmetria> magespawn reality is, not much will change in that department
[10:45] <magespawn> and one of these too http://www.ads-worldwide.net/products/10-6208-c07_jedia_jpa_1240_-_240w_100v_line_4_zone_public&address_mixer_amplifier.php
[10:50] <magespawn> the asterisk is running on centos
[11:06] <charl> hi Symmetria 
[11:06] <charl> congrats on your new job
[11:06] <charl> is that an international company? http://www.liquidtelecom.com/
[11:23] <Symmetria> yeah
[11:24] <Symmetria> largest fiber network on the continent
[11:24] <Symmetria> and growing all the time :)
[11:26] <charl> well good for you, sounds like an exciting job
[11:26] <Symmetria> lol, its a challenging one which is why I took it :) I love the difficult ones 
[11:26] <Symmetria> keeps me on my toes
[11:27] <charl> are you going to be in kenya all the time now?
[11:27] <charl> or at least, most of the time :)
[11:29] <Symmetria> well, moving to Kenya just because its easier to travel to all the other places I work in outta there
[11:30] <charl> yeah kenya is more central
[11:30] <charl> south africa is on the one point and it's hard to get around
[11:31] <charl> if you need to travel frequently kenya is best
[11:33] <charl> hi space 
[11:35] <Symmetria> heh Im about to put down a giant gaming server
[11:35] <Symmetria> in east africa
[11:35] <Symmetria> the really cool thing about it, people who wanna game off it from south africa, will still get < 80ms latency to it
[11:36] <charl> isn't that a lot, 80ms?
[11:36] <charl> i'm not really a gamer so i don't know what the expectations are
[11:36] <nlsthzn> that is good ping
[11:36] <nlsthzn> < 100ms nice 
[11:36] <charl> oh ok
[11:37] <nlsthzn> when I game on servers in US you sometimes go > 200ms... that sucks for anything fast paced like FPS
[11:39] <charl> even working on servers via ssh in the us is painful
[11:39] <Symmetria> heh, we've specced a server that can handle virtually any load you can throw at it as well
[11:41] <Symmetria> 10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
[11:41] <Symmetria> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 64.110/73.713/86.091/9.468 ms
[11:41] <Symmetria> thats pinging kenya from bloemfontein
[11:41] <charl> for such a long distance that's quite good i guess
[11:41] <charl> that's half a big continent
[11:42] <Symmetria> actually would be curious to know what someone on a dsl link in joburg would get pinging kenya, someone ping 41.191.224.202 and then tell me the latency and which za ISP you're behind
[11:45] <charl> i'm not in south africa but i'll ping it for comparison
[11:46] <charl> letting it run for a while
[11:50] <Kilos> PING 41.191.224.202 (41.191.224.202) 56(84) bytes of data.
[11:50] <Kilos> 64 bytes from 41.191.224.202: icmp_req=1 ttl=55 time=932 ms
[11:50] <Kilos> 64 bytes from 41.191.224.202: icmp_req=2 ttl=55 time=391 ms
[11:50] <Kilos> 64 bytes from 41.191.224.202: icmp_req=3 ttl=55 time=388 ms
[11:50] <Kilos> 64 bytes from 41.191.224.202: icmp_req=4 ttl=55 time=384 ms
[11:50] <Kilos> hi Symmetria 
[11:50] <Kilos> thats via 8ta
[11:52] <charl> phew that's high
[11:52] <charl> --- 41.191.224.202 ping statistics ---
[11:52] <charl> 425 packets transmitted, 425 received, 0% packet loss, time 424239ms
[11:52] <charl> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 163.115/165.054/174.425/1.564 ms
[11:53] <charl> that's also pretty high compared to bloemfontein
[11:53] <charl> i don't think we are so much further away geographically speaking
[11:54] <charl> although, if you have to go all around the cost, i am indeed significantly further away than south africa
[11:54] <charl> looking at google maps now
[11:57] <charl> tracepath http://paste.ubuntu.com/6226522/
[14:13] <magespawn> exit
[14:41] <Kilos> who are these peeps http://www.acc.umu.se/technical/hosts/linux.html
[14:42] <Kilos> i see them on iftop here
[14:42] <Kilos> well this is what iftop shows leguin.acc.umu.se 
[14:52] <Kilos> or are they one of the irc servers?
[15:04] <kbmonkey> hello again
[15:04] <kbmonkey> it is raining here, it is nice.
[15:10] <kbmonkey> so I try to view google plus again, its been a while, and it just never stops loading. 
[15:10] <kbmonkey> I am glad that irc works much better!
[15:30] <Kilos> lo kbmonkey 
[15:30] <Kilos> send the rain here
[15:33] <kbmonkey> will do Kilos !
[15:33] <Kilos> ty
[15:34] <kbmonkey> Maaz, do a rain dance
[15:34] <Maaz> kbmonkey: What?
[15:34] <Kilos> haha
[16:15] <zeref> weo weo
[16:32] <Kilos> whats that zeref ?
[16:32] <Kilos> Maaz, defiine weo weo
[16:32] <Maaz> Kilos: Sorry...
[16:33] <Kilos> ai!
[16:33] <Kilos> Maaz, define weo weo
[16:33] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word?
[16:36] <zeref> pew pew
[16:36] <zeref> :D
[16:36] <Kilos> oh that
[16:36] <Kilos> whew
[16:37] <Kilos> i wonder how one spells that 
[16:37] <Kilos> phew
[16:38] <Kilos> nope not that either
[16:38] <Kilos> use sjoe in afrikaans
[16:40] <zeref> pew pew <<----- sound the guns in star wars make :)
[16:40] <Kilos> oh that
[16:40] <Kilos> hehe
[16:43] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[16:45] <superfly> hi Kilos 
[17:07] <Kilos> zeref, you are as bad as me
[17:07] <Kilos> bloep=bell.ogg
[17:33] <nuvolari> o/
[17:33] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos, lo superfly, zeref
[17:33] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[17:33] <nuvolari> and kbmonkey 
[17:34] <nuvolari> hi oom :) Gaan dit goed?
[17:34] <Kilos> ja dankie seun en self?
[17:34] <Kilos> :-)
[17:34] <nuvolari> dit gaan oraait dankie oom
[17:35] <nuvolari> bietjie afgepie by die werk want ek moet nou sukkel met software wat ek nie kan uitfigure nie
[17:35] <Kilos> ai!
[17:36] <Kilos> kry hulp man
[17:38] <nuvolari> daar is 'n wiki vir die sagteware maar dit is die basics
[17:38] <nuvolari> niks in die lyn van wat ek mee moet sit nie
[17:38] <Kilos> ai!
[17:39] <nuvolari> as ek hare gehad het, het ek hulle een vir een uitgepluk
[17:39] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:39] <Kilos> watse safteware
[17:39] <Kilos> sagteware
[17:43] <Kilos> inetpro, slaap jy nog?
[17:46] <nuvolari> Kilos: ETL, Extract, Transform, List. Dis 'n tipe datamining
[17:47] <Kilos> ai!
[18:02] <superfly> hi nuvolari 
[18:57] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:56] <bajayi> Hi peeps
[19:57] <bajayi> could someone tell me what ports to open on my web server in the DMZ so i can pull updates and packages from ubuntu repository
[19:58] <superfly> port 80
[19:58] <superfly> uh, your web server?
[19:58] <bajayi> yup
[19:58] <superfly> I presume you're talking actual server machine, not software
[19:59] <superfly> bajayi: how do you browse the net normally?
[19:59] <bajayi> updates for packages et al stuffs like apt-get .....
[19:59] <superfly> do you use a proxy?
[19:59] <superfly> yes, you said that
[20:00] <bajayi> the web server is placed on the DMZ and we have port 80 and 443 opened
[20:00] <bajayi> but i still cant get updates or packages to install on the web server when i run apt-get
[20:00] <superfly> bajayi: when you say, "web server" is this the box you're trying to update?
[20:00] <superfly> what does apt-get say?
[20:00] <bajayi> yes superfly
[20:02] <bajayi> unable to retrieve packages ...something along those lines 
[20:02] <superfly> which tells me everything, of course.
[20:03] <superfly> how about you give me the actual error message... or better yet, the entire output you get from the moment you type "sudo apt-get update"
[20:03] <superfly> and then explain how you browse the web from inside your DMZ
[20:03] <bajayi> i cant provide that now....i'm home
[20:04] <bajayi> i'll revert back with e specific error messages on monday when i'm at work
[20:04] <superfly> report back
[20:04] <superfly> to revert is to put back to what it was
[20:07] <bajayi> i hear you!
[20:07] <bajayi> :)
[20:07] <bajayi> hang in there
[20:10] <bajayi> here you go!
[20:10] <bajayi> connected via my vpn
[20:10] <bajayi> Last login: Fri Oct 11 17:44:07 2013 from 192.168.140.1 root@web1:~# apt-get update Err http://ng.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release.gpg   Temporary failure resolving 'ng.archive.ubuntu.com' Err http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security Release.gpg   Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com' 0% [Connecting to ng.archive.ubuntu.com]
[20:10] <superfly> so you have a DNS issue
[20:11] <bajayi> ok
[20:11] <superfly> and why are you connecting to ng.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[20:11] <bajayi> thats my location
[20:11] <bajayi> Nigeria
[20:11] <superfly> ah
[20:11] <superfly> there isn't a local Ubuntu presence in Nigeria?
[20:12] <bajayi> yup
[20:12] <superfly> mkay
[20:12] <superfly> welcome to South Africa ;-)
[20:12] <superfly> bajayi: so it looks to me like you need to sort out your DNS in your DMZ - or on your web server, at least
[20:14] <bajayi> thanks alot
[20:14] <superfly> np
[20:14] <bajayi> one more issue i ran into whilst setting up the DB server still on ubuntu
[20:15] <bajayi> i disabled the firewall when i couldnt connect via ssh remotely
[20:15] <bajayi> it worked for a while and stopped
[20:15] <bajayi> i can no longer connect to it via ssh remotely
[20:15] <bajayi> do i need to ufw allow 22?
[20:15] <superfly> yes
[20:16] <bajayi> kk