[00:00] <Daekdroom> TLoFP, 10.04 is now only supported for servers.
[00:00] <Ben64> TLoFP: if you're installing fresh, you should go with 12.04, 10.04 is no longer supported on desktops
[00:00] <TLoFP> Daekdroom: I am installing the server addition
[00:01] <Ben64> still, 12.04 is much better
[00:01] <Ben64> 14.04 is coming in 6 months too
[00:01] <TLoFP> Ben64: I need to install 10.04 because it is needed as a VX host
[00:01] <TLoFP> and VX-Works does not explicitly support anything past 10.04
[00:02] <TLoFP> it is not my wish to install 10.04 but I have too
[00:02] <Ben64> not sure what vx-works is
[00:02] <TLoFP> Ben64: some type of real time OS
[00:03] <Ben64> so how does that relate at all to ubuntu
[00:03] <TLoFP> Ben64 I am not sure... all I know is that I was instructed to install 10.04
[00:03] <TLoFP> and I can't proceed because it is expecting a CD-ROM drive
[00:03] <TLoFP> but I am installing form USB
[00:03] <reisio> TLoFP: how'd you put the image onto the USB?
[00:03] <Ben64> "The Mars Science Laboratory Curiosity rover uses VxWorks"
[00:04] <Ben64> yeah i don't know what you're doing, but ubuntu doesn't seem to be related to it at all
[00:04] <TLoFP> reisio: windows
[00:04] <Ben64> completely different OS with a completely different scope
[00:04] <reisio> TLoFP: more specific please :)
[00:04] <TLoFP> Ben64: I belive it is a host computer to interface with the computer running vx-works
[00:05] <TLoFP> reisio: I got the Universal USB installer and downloaded the 10.04 LTS server iso and let the USB installer do the rest
[00:05] <TLoFP> I then booted from USB
[00:05] <Ben64> so  you don't even know what its for
[00:05] <TLoFP> coorect
[00:05] <reisio> I'd use unetbootin
[00:05] <reisio> actually I'd use a more recent version
[00:05] <reisio> and dd
[00:05] <Ben64> you should try 12.04 anyway
[00:06] <TLoFP> Ben64 I can not, as I am told by the person who will be setting up VX-Works that he needs 10.04 :(
[00:06] <reisio> try unetbootin, then
[00:06] <Ben64> without any details, can't be sure
[00:07] <Ben64> anything that runs on 10.04 should run on 12.04
[00:07] <TLoFP> Ben64 what details do you need to solve the installation issue?
[00:07] <Ben64> 10.04 iso is not nearly as good as 12.04+ where you can dd the iso directly to a flash drive
[00:09] <TLoFP> look I agree with you
[00:09] <delinquentme> if I'm developing along side someone whos running mac OS ... and I need to add something which is loaded into their $PATH for shell scripts
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> some of the pendrivelinux tools are neat in that they can auto download/verify the isos and even setup multi-iso booting from the same usb flash drive. : which is handy
[00:09] <TLoFP> but I have been at work for 14 hours now and I need to get this done
[00:09] <delinquentme> would it also use ~/.bashrc ?
[00:09] <TLoFP> if the powres to be want 10.04 I can't very well do much about it :(
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> Os-X uses bash i belive. Maybe best to ask in the OS-X channels
[00:10] <reisio> delinquentme: I think that'd work fine
[00:10] <reisio> delinquentme: ask #macosx
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> the default configs may or may not read .bashrc or .profile
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> on OS-X
[00:10] <reisio> other things that may or may not be true:
[00:10] <reisio> spatulas, spaghetti monster, pope-on-a-rope
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt look at th configs and see whats going on. Last i used os-x IT wasent even using bash.
[00:11] <reisio> it's easily tested whether it willl work or not
[00:11] <omigasun> TLoFP: try Lili (linux live)., similiar with unetbootin or any other liveusb maker
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> omigasun:  ive had issues with lili in the past.  I tend to use the tools from the Pendrivelinux site
[00:18] <Limy354> are there issues with uploading files to a server on Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:19] <reisio> issues?
[00:19] <Limy354> I'm running owncloud but cannot upload a file over about 800 MB
[00:19] <Limy354> but there's what appears to be a bug
[00:19] <Limy354> I'm using owncloud
[00:19] <reisio> there aren't any "800 mb file upload issues", no
[00:19] <reisio> there may be specific to owncloud, but that isn't ubuntu
[00:19] <Limy354> for files less than 800 MB I can upload just fine.
[00:20] <Limy354> But when a filesize gets to something like 820 MB, which is stored in /tmp, it starts the upload all over again, creating another file. It keeps doing this until the root parition is full.
[00:20] <Limy354> these are temp files created with a "php" prefix and owned by www-data
[00:20] <reisio> Limy354: is /tmp on its own partition?
[00:21] <Limy354> reisio, no, it's an a typical root partition
[00:21] <Limy354> I have a desktop that I also use as a server. Using 12.04.
[00:22] <Limy354> my situation is the same as this persons, except my limit is just over 800 MB whereas this person had a 2GB limit. They say it's a problem with php: http://forum.owncloud.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3124
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> Limy354:  i recall seeing yesterday in the owncloud install guides. theres some config/setting to allow larger sized files. (ive only just instelled owncloud yesterday, so thats about all i know)
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> set up owncloud on my little raspberry pi as a test case. ;)
[00:25] <Limy354> Dr_Willis, I've done other configuring already, which has allowed files larger than 513MB. Part of the reason I think it's not owncloud is that owncloud allows me to begin the upload, and also as I've mentioned, tmp files get created, but they stop growing at some point then start over with a new temp file. The "upload" doesn't stop. It just keeps creating temp files.
[00:25] <Limy354> that sounds like a bug, doesn't it?
[00:26] <reisio> it sounds like a bug
[00:26] <reisio> in owncloud
[00:26] <Limy354> where are the php log messages at?
[00:26] <reisio> or maybe you're just out of space
[00:26] <reisio> /var/log/, probs
[00:27] <Limy354> nothing titled "php" in /var/log/
[00:27] <lordzett> lo ppl
[00:27] <lordzett> iǘe got a problem
[00:27] <lordzett> i started metacity on exedent and i cant get out it
[00:28] <reisio> Limy354: probably be named after your web server
[00:28] <Limy354> reisio, where?
[00:29] <TLoFP> I get the same error unetbootin
[00:29] <TLoFP> the installation expects a cd rom drive
[00:29] <reisio> Limy354: /var/log/, probs
[00:29] <reisio> TLoFP: got a CD drive?
[00:29] <Limy354> reisio, no not in there.
[00:29]  * Limy354 looks for an ubuntu server channel
[00:29] <reisio> -server
[00:30] <Limy354> ty
[00:32] <Gerowen> If I wanted to do a loop in bash, but the number of times the loop should run is a variable, how would I plug that in?
[00:33] <TLoFP> reisio: I do not, nor do I have CDs
[00:33] <bazhang> Gerowen, try in #bash ?
[00:34] <reisio> foo=var; for i in {1..$foo}, possibly
[00:34] <reisio> or you could use seq
[00:37] <Gerowen> reisio: Here's the section of code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6224892
[00:37] <Gerowen> Basically I want to loop a request for files to plug into mencoder, so I can run this script, tell it how many files I'm merging, then be prompted to select them that many times and have them stored as unique variables so I can then plug those variables into mencoder at the end.
[00:39] <Gerowen> When I run that segment of code, the window "Testing for foo" pops up one time, and that's it, where it should pop up foo times if I'm writing it correctly.
[00:39] <reisio> Gerowen: what does it matter how many there are?
[00:43] <Gerowen> reisio: The zenity file selection dialog doesn't allow you to select multiple files, so I was just going to recursively ask for files in order, that way I could plug them into the command in order.
[00:44] <reisio> oh
[00:44] <reisio> how tedious
[00:44] <rickyrayjay> anyone know how to move icons on desktop of kubuntu? it creates them as a widget and i cant figure out how to relocate them
[00:45] <dnzz> How can we find unnecessary programs?
[00:45] <reisio> rickyrayjay: you have to right click somewhere and change the 'active' view whatever
[00:45] <reisio> ask #kde
[00:45] <dnzz> Do not have nobody to answer
[00:45] <rickyrayjay> thx, ill try
[00:45] <reisio> rickyrayjay: you want 'desktop icons' or something
[00:46] <rickyrayjay> ya, i would like to add some to desktop and arrange them how i like
[00:46] <reisio> #kde will know
[00:46] <Gerowen> dnzz: As far as I know, that's kind of a difficult task to accomplish, because "unnecessary" is kind of subjective.  sudo apt-get autoremove will remove packages that were installed as a dependency and are no longer required, if that helps.
[00:46] <reisio> I can only remember with KDE in front of me
[00:47] <reisio> whoa, neat http://userbase.kde.org/images.userbase/b/b3/Plasma_howto-icon-traditional-45.gif
[00:47] <reisio> GIF tuts
[00:47] <gretchenp> Hello, I'm trying to run an .sh script on 13.04 amd64, but it only launches gedit!
[00:48] <Gerowen> dnzz: For example, if I installed Winff, ffmpeg would also be installed as a dependancy, but if I remove Winff, ffmpeg won't go with it, so sudo apt-get autoremove would remove ffmpeg, and any other packages that were installed as dependencies of Winff
[00:48] <reisio> rickyrayjay: this one maybe: http://userbase.kde.org/images.userbase/e/ea/Plasma_howto-desktop-traditional-45.gif
[00:48] <Rena> hi folks, I'm having trouble with multiple video cards. I have a Radeon HD 7700 and 6450. Both show up in Xorg.0.log (even detects the connected monitors on both) and lspci -v, but the 6450's displays don't show up in xrandr
[00:49] <Tylertwo> dnzz, Why do you want to find unnecessary programs?
[00:50] <jakemp> Xorg is taking up 96% of a CPU core whenever I try to play a movie.
[00:50] <jakemp> why are my graphics suddenly breaking all the time? ><
[00:50] <Rena> those two issues sound related
[00:50] <reisio> dnzz: look into deborphan
[00:51] <jakemp> Is it because 13.10 is coming out soon?
[00:51] <jakemp> Nothing on my machine has changed.
[00:52] <Rena> jakemp, maybe you don't have direct rendering or your GPU is failing
[00:52] <Rena> so the CPU is having to render everything
[00:52] <rickyrayjay> reisio: that would be great but when i go in to desktop settings, i dont have the "activity" tab. just "view" and "mouse actions"
[00:52] <jakemp> it's a fast CPU though, Sandy bridge i5, it should be able to do it anyways.
[00:53] <reisio> rickyrayjay: under view?
[00:54] <dnzz> @reiso thank you
[00:54] <rickyrayjay> reisio: only "layout, wallpaper, positioning and color" just background settings
[00:54] <jakemp> I suppose I could use windows for a while, to make sure the GPU isn't the problem.
[00:56] <reisio> dnzz: welcome
[00:56] <reisio> rickyrayjay: well ask #kubuntu then :)
[00:57] <abatlamisere> hi, salut
[00:57] <rickyrayjay> thanks for trying. can i join #kubuntu from here easily?
[00:57] <reisio> salut, hi
[00:57] <reisio> rickyrayjay: /join #kubuntu
[00:57] <abatlamisere> je suis tut nouveau et je charche un frum en fraincais
[00:58] <rickyrayjay> thanks again
[00:58] <reisio> abatlamisere: /msg alis list *ubunt*fr
[00:59] <abatlamisere> oui but where?
[00:59] <reisio> nombre = population
[01:01] <jamieG71> Can anyone help me in setting up ubuntu on several servers?
[01:01] <abatlamisere> could you give me orders, or even the exact procedure to join a French network
[01:01] <reisio> jamieG71: identical hardware?
[01:01] <nishanth> can some one help me install bcrmfmac driver?
[01:01] <reisio> abatlamisere: /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:01] <jamieG71> no I have five servers all running redhat
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> jamieG71, You might consider #ubuntu-server
[01:02] <reisio> nishanth: brcmsmac?
[01:02] <abatlamisere>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:02] <reisio> abatlamisere: no space
[01:02] <jamieG71> yes downloading that now, not sure on the procedure to install, only one server has a cd rom drive
[01:02] <reisio> /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> jamieG71, Yu want ubuntu severs or the regular install with desktops?
[01:02] <nishanth> reisio brcmfmac
[01:02] <reisio> jamieG71: so they aren't identical hardware?
[01:03] <jamieG71> no they are all former google dns servers of various age
[01:03] <reisio> so 'no'
[01:03] <reisio> jamieG71: the most efficient way would probably be with debootstrap
[01:04] <jamieG71> no, and wilee-nilee I wish for them to be servers, I will google debootstrap
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> jamieG71, Cool, looks like your getting help here.
[01:05] <reisio> actually the most efficient way would be to install once and copy that installation, and fix any changes required, but that is potentially more work if you don't know what you're doing
[01:05] <jamieG71> much appreciated
[01:06] <jamieG71> looks like debootstrap is what I'm needing
[01:06] <nishanth> anyone know how to install brcmfmac driver?
[01:07] <jamieG71> thanks guys, anything you need android wise, find me on XDA developers- jamieg71
[01:25] <comandopelapapas> alguien sabe  como ejecutar  aircrack?
[01:26] <Tylertwo> !es | comandopelapapas
[01:26] <thumbee> playing with ubuntu on my friday night. newbie.. after install ubuntu-desktop. what install am i forgetting to get a taskbar :P ?
[01:26] <thumbee> after "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop". i only got a blank window
[01:27] <gino> Hiya everybody.  I am having fun nvidia driver errors, hooray
[01:27] <Tylertwo> thumbee, What Ubuntu version do you have?
[01:27] <gino> anybody care to point me in the right direction?
[01:28] <gino> I have 12.04 running nvidia 319.40, It switched my main screen and now my left screen is solid white
[01:28] <thumbee> ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso
[01:29] <gino> driver 304 seems choppy on my computer
[01:29] <gino> any idears? <3
[01:30] <gino> I have tried reinstalling drivers both through terminal and through additional drivers
[01:30] <karen_> Hi, guys. I am on a laptop talking to you , but my question is about no internet connection on my desktop that has Puppy Precise plugged in with usb. My dell desktop has a Belkin usb internet adapter. I can't get internet connection.
[01:31] <gino> karen_ did you try bypassing the router on your desktop to make sure the LAN port isn't damaged?
[01:31] <gino> also try swapping ports
[01:32] <gino> and ethernet cables
[01:32] <karen_> So, what I'm saying is I can't get internet connection on my Lucid Puppy USB flashdrive with my desktop that has a Belkin wirelss adapter.
[01:32] <gino> if it won't come on by bypassing the router then it might be your NIC card
[01:33] <karen_>  I don't understand "bypassing router on desktop.  Now, when I take the USB flashdrive out, I can get on my Windows 7 on my desktop.
[01:33] <beagle> I need to download Wine in order to use my wireless network adapter but in order to do that, I need to have an internet connection on my computer which I dont have
[01:33] <gino> try plugging your flash into a different port first?
[01:33] <gino> perhaps your usb is shorting out your NIC
[01:34] <beagle> Ok
[01:34] <beagle> I unplugged it.
[01:34] <Jordan_U> karen_: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, for Puppy support please try #puppylinux.
[01:34] <beagle> Network connections shows nothing
[01:34] <karen_> o.k. thanks
[01:35] <Jordan_U> karen_: You're welcome.
[01:35] <beagle> uhh
[01:35] <beagle> Like I said
[01:35] <beagle> Got ethernet hardwired to my computer and ubuntu isn't even detecting it
[01:36] <gino> Jordan, did you happen to see my issue?
[01:36] <gino> but windows detects it?
[01:36] <gino> you might need to update your bios
[01:37] <beagle> Yes windows detects
[01:37] <Jordan_U> beagle: Wine won't help you with wireless drivers at all. Can you please run "sudo ifconfig" and tell us what interfaces are listed?
[01:37] <beagle> sure
[01:38] <beagle> uhh
[01:38] <beagle> Local loopback
[01:38] <beagle> inet addr:127.0.0.1
[01:38] <beagle> inet6 addr
[01:38] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | beagle
[01:38] <beagle> up lookback
[01:41] <beagle> !paste
[01:42] <beagle>  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Linkencap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.01 mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:host up loopback running   mtu:65536 metric:1 rx packets:40 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:40 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 collions:0  txqueuelen:0 rx bytes:3040 (3.0kb) tx bytes:3040 (3.0 K
[01:43] <Jordan_U> beagle: Please visite http://paste.ubuntu.com , paste all of your text *there*, submit it to create a URL linking to that paste, and post that URL here.
[01:43] <beagle> Thats what shows when I do sudo ifconfig
[01:43] <beagle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6225023/
[01:43] <beagle> Sorry
[01:44] <Jordan_U> beagle: Does this ethernet card work properly in another OS? Is it connected properly?
[01:45] <beagle> Not sure
[01:45] <beagle> It's built into my motherboard
[01:45] <Rena> hi folks, I'm having trouble with multiple video cards. I have a Radeon HD 7700 and 6450. Both show up in Xorg.0.log (even detects the connected monitors on both) and lspci -v, but the 6450's displays don't show up in xrandr. Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/jNFXEhC6  lspci -v: http://pastebin.com/d3sjxkij
[01:45] <beagle> I just use a wireless network adapter.
[01:45] <Rena> I'm hearing I might have to use RandR 1.4?
[01:46] <sh00tz> Hello
[01:47] <kure> Hello!
[01:47] <nishanth> anyone know of a good usb wireless adapter that works well on ubuntu?
[01:48] <sh00tz> join #umn
[01:49] <nishanth> anyone know of a good usb wireless adapter that works well on ubuntu?
[01:49] <sh00tz> I dunno
[01:49] <sh00tz> you looking for wireless adapter for desktop ?
[01:49] <sh00tz> micro center had one on sale but do not know if it works
[01:51] <rrykua> Hi... not sure if it belongs in here, but I would like to install Serif font found in Ubuntu into Windows. Where can I find this font in Ubuntu? Is it available somewhere for download in ttf format? I really like this font and would like to use it for some applications on Windows as well.
[01:53] <karen__> No one seems to be anwering the  "Puppy" server
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> rrykua, I would look on the web for windows installs of this, maybe ask in ##windows, probably available you just need to find it.
[01:54] <thumbee> ugh. after u install ubuntu-desktop. do u have to install something on top of that ?
[01:54] <sh00tz> nope
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> thumbee, Like what?
[01:55] <thumbee> like to actually get a taskbar and shttt
[01:55] <sh00tz> use the CD and boot into a live session on your machine to see if everything works
[01:55] <thumbee> like some layout. theme?
[01:55] <sh00tz> it will walk you through it.... different desktop managers
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> thumbee, watch your language here to begin with, if your having a problem address it directly
[01:55] <thumbee> i have may installed the wrong one.. the bare server. so im manually installing the "desktop environment" (if thats what its called)
[01:56] <sh00tz> reinstall
[01:56] <thumbee> wilee-nilee: to address my most current problem directly. fuck you
[01:56] <thumbee> lol :D jk
[01:56] <rrykua> wilee-nilee: i've google for it already... but all i find is Ubuntu Regular, which is sans serif, while I am looking for serif font. I've also found FreeSerif.ttf in the /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont, but it's not the one. i will try asking in ##windows, but I trust they won't know where to find the Ubuntu fonts and I have experienced that people working in Linux are more knowledgable that those working in Windows - that is why 
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> !op | rrykua
[01:57] <IdleOne> !language | thumbee
[01:58] <thumbee> roflll. teacher put me in the corner for 5 minutes
[01:59] <rrykua> what just happened, why was I banned?
[01:59] <rrykua> or was I?
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> thumbee, You will not get much help here acting in this way.
[01:59] <mrrcp> !weather
[01:59] <thumbee> chill dude lol..
[01:59] <rrykua> !language
[02:00] <DarkAceLaptop> will sudo apt-get install package upgrade package or reinstall it?
[02:00] <dli> hi, which package is needed to fix this Qt error: Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: help
[02:00] <DarkAceLaptop> or will that reinstall it
[02:00] <IdleOne> DarkAceLaptop: if the package is already installed and there is a newer version available in the repos it will upgrade that package
[02:01] <DarkAceLaptop> great, thanks
[02:02] <karen__> Does anyone use a Linux usb on a desktop with a usb wireless adapter?
[02:03] <dli> karen_, please go ahead with your second question
[02:04] <karen__> Can't connect to the internet with my Lucid Puppy on usb flash drive on my desktop that has a usb wireless adapter. Nobody is talking on the Puppy Channel.
[02:04] <IdleOne> wilee-nilee: for future reference http://font.ubuntu.com/
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> karen__, You might try ##linux
[02:05] <karen__> o.k. I'll try thanks
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> IdleOne, Does that have windows installs for the user seeking that?
[02:05] <IdleOne> wilee-nilee: its a zip file. I am not sure if usable in windows or not.
[02:06] <IdleOne> I would assume so?
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> IdleOne, Ah, well they would be the one looking for it is all
[02:06] <IdleOne> well, just in case someone ever asks again now you know :)
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> sure no problem. ;)
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> IdleOne, I did do some googling before I answered and saw what appeared to be windows installs, I was not sure of the use is all, my assumption is whomever is going to do this would want to confirm the workability is all.
[02:09] <cac> hi i tried running a program and it didn't run correctly
[02:09] <cac> it opened in "archive manager", does that help?
[02:10] <mrrcp> why wont the weather indicator save settings on ubuntu 12.04
[02:11] <tjj> Is there any way to get access to a full console on a regular ubuntu box? By full console I mean everything from the BIOS POST to linux startup
[02:12] <sh00tz> I believe you can change the default run level
[02:12] <cac> tjj, dmesg
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> mrrcp, There has been problems with that app for awhile the ip's is mainly the issue I believe. http://askubuntu.com/questions/169215/weather-indicator-app-stopped-working I use the gnome shell and another app that works fine, it is an extension
[02:13] <kieppie1> anyone having issues with 13.04-64 & firefox (fails to load; "profile issue") or chromium (can't play google music)
[02:14] <tjj> cac: dmesg just displays stuff from the boot sequence, it won't let me do things like go into the BIOS, reboot the machine if I can't ssh into it, etc
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> kieppie1, You tried a start without addons or a new profile in FF?
[02:14] <cac> tjj, you can't get POST messages from inside Linux.
[02:14] <tjj> nm, looks like I need a console-over-ethernet peripheral or something like that
[02:14] <jwalk> tjj: i think you need hw console support
[02:14] <jwalk> ah yep you got it
[02:15] <cac> tjj, rising sysadmin are you?
[02:15] <kieppie1> wilee-nilee: I have - same problem. seems a bug in the official/stable release: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1180227
[02:15] <cac> mrtux, get out
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> kieppie1, That's FF 21 the official is 24
[02:16] <tjj> cac: More like forced into sysadmin role :-)
[02:17] <cac> tjj, hah.
[02:17] <sh00tz> the bios will be a key you need to press during the post of the machine
[02:17] <cac> tjj, you might have better help in ##linux
[02:17] <OmgMrB> Hey All - Noob here - anyone willing to lend a hand?
[02:17] <cac> OmgMrB, sure.
[02:17] <kieppie1> wilee-nilee:  rolling with 24.0+build1-0ubuntu0.13.0 - but same issue
[02:17] <tjj> cac, thanks, I'll switch to there
[02:18] <kieppie1> or rather - http://askubuntu.com/questions/350968/firefox-wont-launch-error-access-was-denied-while-trying-to-open-files-in-yo
[02:18] <OmgMrB> I just loaded my first installation of Ubuntu (12.10 ? Latest stable) and I'm getting a Grub command line when I boot - I'm dual booting Win8 and Ubuntu
[02:19] <cac> OmgMrB, be more specific? Take a picture of what it looks like?
[02:19] <cac> OmgMrB, your grub command line can look like anything
[02:19] <mrtux> syslinux master race
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> kieppie1, Have you done a purge and removed all the configs and reinstalled it, kinda hard to find an answer without more details really, not a problem I have seen my self or here.
[02:19] <cac> mrtux, get out of here, you use arch.
[02:20] <OmgMrB> K - I'll be right back - I'm using the machine it's on (noob mistake as well)
[02:20] <mrtux> cac: wow, such rude, much offended
[02:20] <kieppie1> wilee-nilee: yea..... will do again, but expect same results.... have a tweaked profile (will archive ~/.mozilla/firefox), purge & reinstall
[02:21] <mrrcp> indicator-weather sucks
[02:21] <mrrcp> they should remove it
[02:21] <mrrcp> its broken
[02:21] <FloodBot1> mrrcp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> kieppie1, Here is a mozilla link, never know, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/905547
[02:22] <kieppie1> chers
[02:23] <karen__> I get a message on Linux channel, cannot send to channel
[02:23] <karen__> how do I get there now/
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> karen__, You have to be registered with frenode
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> !register
[02:23] <karen__> oh  hahahaa
[02:25] <omgmrb> It says grub4dos 0.4.5c minimal bash-like editing is supported. For first word, tab lists possible completions. Anywhere else tab lists the possible completions of a device/file name >grub
[02:27] <cac> omgmrb, I know what you can do
[02:27] <cac> to chainload into window, for now at least
[02:27] <cac> *into windows
[02:27] <Guest51936> ummm I don't know how to join freenode
[02:27] <cac> you might have to do a reinstall to get your bootloader back in place, else you can get windows' boot loader back on there
[02:27] <cac> then you can find out what went wrong
[02:28] <cac> omgmrb, pastebinning some docs on how you can get into windows at least, brb while I type this up
[02:28] <omgmrb> I can get to windows, just not Ubuntu
[02:28] <mrtux> cac: or do a chroot from some livecd and reinstall grub
[02:29] <omgmrb> I can't get it to boot from the CD anymore either
[02:29] <mrtux> ah
[02:29] <mrtux> can you get to a boot menu when you first turn on your computer?
[02:29] <cfhowlett> omgmrb, cant' boot from CD?  did you TELL it to boot from CD :)
[02:29] <mrtux> press f8 or something, whatever it says for boot menu etc
[02:30] <omgmrb> I select it from the bout menu but it loads to my boot selection screen windows/Ubuntu
[02:30] <mrtux> select the cd
[02:31] <kieppie1> wilee-nilee: no dice. removed & purged FF, dropped ~/.mozilla & CLI started with -safe-mode -p
[02:31] <cfhowlett> omgmrb, by any chance, did you install ubuntu with the windows installer aka wubi?
[02:31] <omgmrb> No. I installed from the iso burned to a DVD
[02:32] <omgmrb> Mr tux, I'm not a retard.
[02:32] <mrtux> omgmrb: wat
[02:32] <omgmrb> I know how to boot from a CD
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> omgmrb: plz keep it polite mate
[02:32] <omgmrb> Srry.
[02:32] <cfhowlett> omgmrb, chillax
[02:32] <mrtux> heh
[02:33] <rosemary> hello al
[02:33] <sirriffsalot> Hey, Deluge seems to be seeding a lot less than Transmission; haven't touched any settings yet. Any ideas on this?
[02:33] <omgmrb> I set the installation cd as primary boot device as well... Still wouldn't load
[02:34] <omgmrb> Should i wipe the partition and try again?
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> sirriffsalot: so far i think transmission i the best
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> sirriffsalot: all depends on your actual torrent too of course
[02:34] <cfhowlett> omgmrb, but it did once, right?  weird. is this a new computer with UEFI?
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: hello, welcome what can we do for you?
[02:35] <omgmrb> Never booted into Ubuntu.
[02:35] <cac> omgmrb, http://pastebin.com/S4jVHwfX
[02:35] <cac> omgmrb, read this, to at least get into windows
[02:35] <rosemary> This is my first shot at trying ubuntu on an old acer 4520  I can get to a terminal but cant remember the commands to find out which graphics driver is in use. The machine has an Nvidia card built in it.
[02:35] <karen__> Sorry, I can't get on the Linux Channel. Someone said to join freenode. I clicked on that and it said to join a channel. I just want to know how to connect to the internet on my Lucid Puppy that is on a usb that is connected to my desktop which has a usb internet adapter.
[02:36] <cac> omgmrb, don't actually type <tab>, press the tab key
[02:36] <sirriffsalot> lotuspsychje: "... is the best" doesn't take me far.. I switched because transmission was so ridgid and tense.. Deluge has a better overview I think, closer to the windows-version of BitTorrent
[02:36] <cac> As explained in the document
[02:36] <sirriffsalot> lotuspsychje: anyway I wondered if the settings are set somewhere to seed considerably less
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> !info deluge
[02:37] <cac> karen__, type 'dmesg' without quotes in a terminal, and paste the output on http://www.pastebin.com/
[02:37] <karen__> o.k.
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> sirriffsalot: maybe the #deluge guys might tell you some more on it?
[02:37] <omgmrb> Yes. So it looks as if 0 is windows, 4 is ext2fs is that my Ubuntu  partition
[02:38] <cac> karen__, considering your puppy box doesn't have internet(presumably), move it over using a flash drive or something.
[02:38] <cac> omgmrb, ok, then boot into the windows partition
[02:38] <cfhowlett> sirriffsalot, any such settings will be fairly obvious.  be aware that there are GLOBAL settings as well as individual torrent settings.  Look around
[02:38] <omgmrb> Hd0,0 is active
[02:38] <cac> chainloader (hd0,1)+1
[02:38] <cac> oops
[02:38] <cac> chainloader(hd0,0)+1 then
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> kieppie1, Not sure really, I have FF running in ram here so the files are different then yours in their location, I wonder if you got all the configs removed on the purge, just a guess though.
[02:39] <karen__> what do you mean, "move it over"?
[02:39] <omgmrb> That took me to windows proper
[02:39] <cac> karen__, erm, nevermind.
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: pastebin lshw -C video please
[02:39] <cac> karen__, does your lucid puppy box have internet right now?
[02:40] <rosemary> lotuspsychje,  pastebin.com correct?
[02:40] <karen__> no, I'm talking to you from ubuntu on another computer, my laptop. It is a desktop with the usb internet adapter that I have the Lucid Puppy usb connected to.
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> !paste | rosemary
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> karen__, Can you identify the usb connect to the web, my assumption is puppy does not have a auto read of it. I used to mess with puppy it needed being setup in this area in genral at times, and a secondary web access source makes it a bit more work.
[02:42] <cac> karen__, 'dmesg > dmesg.txt'
[02:42] <cac> karen__, and use a flash drive or SD card to copy it over to your laptop
[02:43] <cac> *the file dmesg.txt
[02:43] <cac> and paste the contents of the file to pastebin.com
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> omgmrb: make your life easy and install ubuntu on your whole hd, loose win once and for good :p
[02:43] <karen__> it is belkin n600 wireless adapter version 2001 that makes my internet work on my dell desktop that the lucid puppy is hooked to.
[02:43] <cac> So we can identify the hardware in question
[02:43] <cac> ok
[02:43] <cac> nevermind then
[02:44] <cac> karen__, sadly USB wireless adapters are a tough spot on linux
[02:44] <cac> 3G modems are worse
[02:44] <omgmrb> Lotuspsychje Problem is i need win for work.... Or i would
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> omgmrb: what software you still need?
[02:45] <karen__> O.K. cac, the Puppy works on my laptop but not on my desktop. Laptops seem to hook to the internet better. Bummer! I can't just put my Puppy usb in any ol desk top, can I?
[02:45] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6225162/
[02:45] <omgmrb> Proprietary controllers. For loading firmware to hand held code readers
[02:45] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, looks like I am using some sort of nvidia driver yes?
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: you driver is 'nouveau' so your up to date, can you describe what your actual issue is?
[02:46] <rosemary> I have had web pages freeze up.
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> karen__, Part of the problem here is this is ubuntu support, if there was an easy answer you probably would have gotten it. Otherwise it would be incorrect to help you with a non supported OS here, especially one like this which at my guess would be long and drawn out, and not appreciated by others here.
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: on firefox?
[02:48] <karen__> o.k.
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: browsing youtubes?
[02:48] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, I have had the problem on firefox yes. It is facebook games.  Chromium is even worse.
[02:48] <cac> wilee-nilee, I was just about to answer him/her. :/
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: did you install flash?
[02:49] <rosemary> yes I instaled flash.
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: how about needed codecs at your ubuntu setup?
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | rosemary
[02:50] <kieppie1> hmmmmmmmmm
[02:50] <rosemary> the setup was done via wubi so I am not sure if I got all the codecs.
[02:50] <kieppie1> I'm running a new raring on a new laptop
[02:50] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, ^^^^^
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: try installing that package, see if it makes any difference
[02:51]  * kieppie1 wonders is I can load the new repo to fix bugs
[02:52] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, sudo apt-get install ?  Been a minute since I did this linux thing.
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: you made a great choice :p
[02:53] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, going to try that now thanks.
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: if you want to share laptop specs and ubuntu version, feel free
[02:55] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, I was more a kde person the last time round. 1 gig ram and latest LTS
[02:56] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, was there a command to output all that and then paste.
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: well old acer laptops might be little tricky on ubuntu, so if it doesnt workout, you could try xubuntu or lubuntu
[02:57] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, It is an acer 4520 built in '07
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: hd space 40?
[02:59] <rosemary> I think wubi did 90 meg. Not sure my actual space. It is currently dual boot.
[02:59] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, ^^^^ sorry
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: dont worry, i would use the whole hd for older laptop, maybe clean install xubuntu
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: hows the overall speed of ubuntu on your laptop now?
[03:01] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, Testing it out to see if can live with it. Will probably burn iso to disk and do full install if it will work for spouse.
[03:02] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, expected it to run a bit faster than it does but better than windows.
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: ok i would go for xubuntu or lubuntu, will speed your machine up, using whole hd
[03:03] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, package installed. Do I restart or just test?
[03:03] <Tylertwo> How much of the hd you use shouldn't effect speed...
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: you can test
[03:04] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, I thought so, but could not remember for certain. Thanks for help.
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> Tylertwo: depending how full the disk on windows side is filled
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> !xubuntu | rosemary
[03:05] <Tylertwo> lotuspsychje, yeah, if it's reaaaally full.
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> Tylertwo: i found old boxes running best on whole hd ubuntu
[03:05] <Tylertwo> lotuspsychje, meh, I've got 2 "old boxes" that are running well with dual/tri boots
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> Tylertwo: maybe would work even fast single, ever tried?
[03:06] <Tylertwo> lotuspsychje, nah, haven't tried
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: you could try out xubuntu without reinstalling aswell installing xubuntu-desktop
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> !info xubuntu-desktop | rosemary
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: then logout to ubuntu and login xubuntu
[03:11] <rosemary_> lotuspsychje, chromium ran out of memory.  Got the he's dead Jim message.
[03:12] <rosemary_> lotuspsychje, trying out firefox now.
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> rosemary_: think you best tryout xubuntu or lubuntu
[03:13] <rosemary_> would the facebook stil be possible?  is there an installer like wubi?
[03:14] <pfifo> lubuntu is so lightweight you could run it on a typewriter or a c64, an 07 laptop should be not problem
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> rosemary_: install lubuntu-desktop from ubuntu terminal
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> rosemary_: you will be able to test right away
[03:16] <rosemary_> lotuspsychje, Then how would I boot into it?  I would just need to kill my ubuntu session would I not?
[03:16] <grendal-prime_> you know..all this bs rosemary is going through bugs me..Remember when chrome was supposed to be the clean, no nonsence web browser?
[03:16] <grendal-prime_> what the hell happend
[03:16] <pfifo> rosemary_: log out and then in the loging scereen choose a 'kubuntu session'
[03:16] <pfifo> err lubuntu
[03:17] <grendal-prime_> i have a pent3 laptop i run that on works great
[03:17] <djp5592> I'm attempting to set up USB filtering through udev rules so that only my devices can be attached to the system, and if they aren't, i'll handle it from there.  Can anyone help out with that?
[03:17] <rosemary_> pfifo, and lotuspsychje thanks.
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> rosemary_: np
[03:18] <sean__> hello
[03:18] <sean__> exit
[03:21] <ewol> hi
[03:21] <ewol> hi
[03:21] <pfifo> how can I tell where I stand as far as mail goes on my server, I didnt build the xen image and dont know whats available and whats installed and running, Im using precise
[03:21] <ewol> why does my resolv.conf reset everytime?
[03:21] <ewol> to my default settings?
[03:22] <pfifo> ewol: its a symlink, delete it and write a standard file instead... its resetting cause you run dnsmasq
[03:23] <ewol> pfifo: how do I do that?
[03:23] <pfifo> ewol: I usually do 'sudo rm -rf /etc/resolv.conf' and then 'sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf'
[03:25] <ewol> pfifo: thanks
[03:28] <pfifo> actually disregard my question, im going to sleep, mail can wait til tomorrow, good night all
[03:33] <rosemary_> lotuspsychje, unable to locate lbuntu-desktop?
[03:34] <postmodern> I setup a Ubuntu 13.04 chroot using debootstrap, but I can't find the llvm-dev package
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> !info lubuntu-desktop | rosemary_
[03:35] <ewol> Do I really need "swap" by installing ubuntu?
[03:35] <postmodern> http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/llvm-dev the package appears to be there
[03:36] <SchrodingersScat> ewol: I think that depends on the machine and what you plan on doing with it.
[03:36] <rosemary_> lotuspsychje, so I need to install the component universe repo?
[03:37] <ewol> SchrodingersScat: should I put 4GB swap if I have 4GB RAM?
[03:37] <ewol> or is 2GB enough?
[03:37] <SchrodingersScat> ewol: why not 8GB swap?
[03:38] <ben-pol> hi im trying to install ubuntu with debootstrap. I tried to install the standard packages with apt-get install standard^ but now im getting this error message. anyone know how to fix? http://pastebin.com/KJXMgCSG
[03:39] <ewol> SchrodingersScat: okay thanks
[03:39] <ewol> what encryption do Ubuntu use? When install?
[03:39] <postmodern> ben-pol, I got that error also, with other packages
[03:40] <postmodern> ben-pol, re-running the command seemed to work
[03:40] <postmodern> anyone know why the llvm-dev package is missing?
[03:40] <postmodern> perhaps I am missing some repositories?
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> rosemary_: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[03:42] <ewol> SchrodingersScat: what encryption does Ubuntu use when install?
[03:46] <ben-pol> postmodern: i retried running the command and recieved a similar error http://pastebin.com/Hrv2hVry
[03:47] <jasabella> hi :) i'm currently running ubuntu server 13.04 in vmware on a windows vista host... the host computer went to sleep and ubuntu's internet isnt working after i wake the host up, i've tried rebooting ubuntu already, any suggestions? or is this a vmware problem?
[03:48] <ben-pol> postmodern: thanks i was able to google a fix for the new error
[03:54] <postmodern> can someone confirm that raring does have an llvm-dev package, and that my chroot is just broken?
[03:54] <sunny_> if i want to create a home server should i go for ubuntu server or ubuntu 13.04 ?
[03:55] <Svetlana> sunny_, what would the home server run roughly?
[03:56] <Tylertwo> postmodern, check out http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:56] <sunny_> Svetlana, file server, cups and minidlna
[03:56] <sunny_> that's it
[03:56] <postmodern> Tylertwo, yeah i see llvm-dev on there under raring, marked as universal
[03:56] <postmodern> Tylertwo, but do other raring systems actually have it, or is this a bug
[03:57] <Tylertwo> postmodern, From what you said it sounds like they would.. I have precise
[03:57] <Svetlana> sunny_, read http://askubuntu.com/questions/31081/whats-the-difference-between-the-server-version-and-the-desktop-version
[03:59] <sunny_> Svetlana, :-)
[04:00] <sunny_> got my  answer
[04:00] <Svetlana> :)
[04:00] <Svetlana> #ubuntu-server if you go for it, or here otherwise, would give you further support. (You are also welcome to help out if you desire.)
[04:06] <delinquentme> ok so I need a way to create a variable which persists at the system level
[04:09] <michael_> i'm REALLY confused about something... i've got an EFI enabled laptop running dual boot Windows 8 (i dont even use windows 8 i think it is horrible and i hope it dies a horrible death) and xubuntu. my computer boots straight to windows 8 without any user intervention (shows no boot menus, etc..) however! when I interupt with F9 and go to a system bios/efi-type boot menu, I see Ubuntu listed as a boot option (as well as US
[04:09] <michael_> B hard drives if they are plugged in), and as soon as i choose Ubuntu- it goes to Grub2...... my question is: wtf is F9, trying to remove ubuntu with BCD Edit does not remove Ubuntu... what is this mysterious F9 menu?
[04:10] <ewol> can I change so the cross "x" is on the right side?
[04:10] <reisio> michael_: probably just a boot menu
[04:10] <reisio> michael_: sounds like maybe GRUB is not in control
[04:11] <reisio> ewol: yes
[04:11] <reisio> ewol: http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right
[04:11] <michael_> I don't mind it much because I can boot to Ubuntu fine by doing F9 and i've been living with that for weeks without a problem
[04:11] <reisio> if you removed Windows, it would be less likely it would boot to it
[04:14] <ewol> reisio: okay thanks
[04:23] <Apsu> 'lo. Are questions about 12.04.3 Server issues appropriate here or is there a server-specific channel?
[04:23] <reisio> they aren't inappropriate, but there is -server
[04:23] <Apsu> Not that it's a different system, just curious on focus
[04:24] <Apsu> reisio: Ok. Guess I'll try here first.
[04:24] <reisio> that's thinktastic
[04:24] <Apsu> Hitting a kernel panic on 3.8 (generic-lts-raring) out of precise-updates and precise-proposed when using IPVS.
[04:25] <Apsu> Got keepalived driving IPVS, but the traceback is for ip_vs_*
[04:25] <Apsu> Doesn't happen with just VRRP synchronization
[04:25] <Apsu> Also doesn't happen on 3.5
[04:27] <Apsu> Not a single result on google for the specific reference in the traceback that's the issue, nor bug report for the keepalived package that's related.
[04:27] <Apsu> Didn't search the kernel package bugs yet.
[04:28] <Apsu> I did see in one of the package bugs for keepalived which has a patch released to precise-proposed, a commenter had the same panic, but on a raring system
[04:28] <rostov> do we know the status of the project to move ubuntu from python2 to python3?
[04:28] <fahadash> Is ubuntu good option for a server ?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> fahadash:  its fairly popular on many vpn/vps providers
[04:29] <rostov> fahadash: define good - depends what you are looking for. Ubuntu works though if that is what you mean.
[04:29] <fahadash> More specifically web server hosting multiple web sites ?
[04:30] <rostov> fahadash: Nothing wrong with it. use the LTS, dont want breakage every 6 months ;-)
[04:30] <reisio> fahadash: whatever distro you're most familiar with is the most appropriate
[04:30] <reisio> fahadash: server or not
[04:30] <fahadash> I am going to set up an LAMP web server hosting under 5 small websites, but server will be runnning 24/7 and there will be no reboots unless its very necessary
[04:30] <reisio> rostov: or you could do a little work within every 6 month period to update without breakage...
[04:30] <reisio> fahadash: well keeping up-to-date without reboots can be tricky
[04:31] <fahadash> How often it has to be updated ?
[04:31] <rostov> reisio: Yea you could but companies generally don't ;-)
[04:31] <reisio> probably better to aim for as few reboots as possible :)
[04:31] <reisio> rostov: lazy
[04:31] <Apsu> reisio: I disagree wholeheartedly.
[04:31] <rosemary_> lotuspsychje, thanks trying now.
[04:31] <rostov> fahadash: security patches will need to be applied as they come out
[04:31] <Apsu> Better to aim for HA so you can reboot often for patching.
[04:31] <reisio> fahadash: any time the kernel needs to be updated, basically
[04:31] <Apsu> And to ensure the hardware/boot process works.
[04:31] <reisio> Apsu: how is that disagreement?
[04:31] <fahadash> rostov: Historically how often an update would occur that would require a reboot ?
[04:31] <buu_> fahadash: debian stable.
[04:31] <rostov> reisio: Brave man to take down a working system for an update that doesn't improve core functionality
[04:32] <Apsu> reisio: Because I disagree that reducing the frequency of reboots is what you should aim for.
[04:32] <reisio> rostov: not that brave if it patches a known security vulnerability
[04:32] <reisio> Apsu: that's not what I said
[04:32] <fahadash> buu_: Does Debian have a package manager like Ubuntu ?
[04:32] <reisio> fahadash: Ubuntu is based on Debian
[04:32] <gulag2013> What does the Ubuntu backup tool backup, if you root and home partitions are separate?
[04:32] <reisio> same package manager
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> fahadash:  its the same package manager
[04:32] <rostov> reisio: We already covered that. Ubuntu LTS and regular both patch for security at the same time though
[04:33] <reisio> rostov: covered what?
[04:33] <fahadash> So How often kernel has to be updated roughly ?
[04:33] <reisio> fahadash: not that often
[04:33] <fahadash> I am okay with Once or Twice a month
[04:33] <reisio> probably not even that often, so you'll be fine
[04:34] <rostov> reisio: In general, in most enterprises i have seen, internal server are not patched. only web-facing ones are patched for security. there's just too much risk of breaking things and most organsiations don't evne know what some of their serfvers actually do
[04:34] <reisio> rostov: I wish I knew how that was relevant to me
[04:34] <rostov> reisio: And don't even get me started on having to fill a form to reboot
[04:35] <reisio> rostov: heh
[04:35] <reisio> rostov: and you can filll it with ' ' :p
[04:35] <rostov> ubuntu update broke my home server headless bittorrent actually.
[04:36] <rostov> it decided to overwrite the config file for no good reason
[04:36] <reisio> I'd say that's a good reason to use another distro
[04:36] <fahadash> Thanks guys
[04:36] <reisio> but sure, if you want to bury your head in the sand instead of update :p
[04:36] <reisio> that works, too
[04:37] <rostov> Shrug, no big deal, my seeding Ubuntu iso isnt exactly mission critical or going to cost me money if it's down ;)
[04:39] <rostov> definitaly probably update home servers ... if you;re being paid to maintain uptime, think really hard about updating and test the update first
[04:39] <Y2KVet> I'm running Ubuntu 13.04.  I've installed a screensaver.  The installation instructions say go to "System->Preferences->screensaver"  I don't know how to do this.
[04:39] <rostov> does anyone know the status of the project to move ubuntu to python 3?
[04:40] <rostov> Y2KVet: type 'preferences' into the HUD (the button at top left) and it will find it
[04:40] <rostov> Y2KVet: It's called 'system settings' now i think
[04:40] <reisio> rostov: I imagine Ubuntu using exclusively python 3 will come after all the big popular python libs manage it
[04:40] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, Im in lubuntu now.  There are some performance improvements as you suggested there would be.
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: great! does your browser work better too?
[04:41] <Y2KVet> rostov: Been there, tried a few things.  They didn't work.
[04:42] <rostov> Y2KVet: What are you trying to do? screensaver is set in the 'brightness and lock' icon of 'system settings'
[04:42] <rosemary> The browser worked better after I installed t codecs you suggested.  The lubuntu is an improvement upon that.
[04:42] <Y2KVet> rostov: I'll go there...
[04:43] <Y2KVet> rostov: But it doesn't allow selection of the screensaver.
[04:44] <rosemary> lotuspsychje, Thank you so much.
[04:44] <rostov> Y2KVet: http://askubuntu.com/questions/292995/configure-screensaver-in-13-04
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> rosemary: my pleasure!
[04:46] <rostov> haha, the ubuntu wiki says the goal is to switch to python 3 by 14.04 lts
[04:47] <rostov> looking at the progress spreadsheet, i might help out if i have some spare time, i do a lot of python porting
[04:49] <AdBlocker> Hey all. Is there a way I can boot up Ubuntu without a monitor - and have it load to desktop?
[04:50] <rostov> AdBlocker: Not sure what you mean. Just unplug the screen??? ;-) its possible some video cards however wont boot correctly with no display connected
[04:50] <buu_> AdBlocker: Maybe you want a vncserver
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker:  you dont need a monitor
[04:51] <reisio> AdBlocker: yes, no additional steps required
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> and if you want to use a vnc server on a headless pc. dont use the gnome/unity 'share this desktop' vnc server. use a stand alone vnc server
[04:51] <AdBlocker> rostov: The problem being that in order to boot the computer up after I reboot it, I have to unplug one monitor, and hook it up in a different place in my house. THEN unplug it and hook it back up where it was originally
[04:52] <AdBlocker> Dr_Willis: I need a GUI for a desktop though, I remote in.
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker:  boot to text mode. leave it headless. run a vncserver as needed
[04:52] <rostov> AdBlocker: It wont boot with no display connected? that sounds like the video card's bios.
[04:52] <AdBlocker> rostov: It isn't the video card, it boots to desktop w/o a monitor just fine in windows
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker:  yes.. and you DONT need to use the 'share this desktop' feature of unity/gnome - you  want to use a stand alone vnc serv er
[04:53] <AdBlocker> Dr_Willis: thanks I'll look into it then
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> with no monitor the X server may give you the wrong resolution.  and theres no point in running an X display that way if all you need is a vnc session
[04:53] <reisio> wrong res, oh my
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> ssh in, run vncserver, connect.
[04:53] <rostov> AdBlocker: Does it hang on shutdown, or does it not start properly?
[04:53] <AdBlocker> Dr_Willis: Any recommended vnc server softeare?
[04:54] <AdBlocker> rostov: It does not start properly.
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker:  theres several in the repos. tightvnc is a commonly used one
[04:54] <rostov> i;ve used tightVNC and it works fine. cant comment on whether it;s secure, but it definiately works well
[04:54] <reisio> you can use it over ssh to make it secure
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker:  if the thing is going to be headless - you may as well set it to boot to text mode also
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> !text
[04:54] <reisio> but it'd be more worthwhile to learn how to maintain a server without X
[04:54] <Ryan52> Is this LP bug labeled "Tags: verification-needed verification-done-precise verification-done-raring" waiting verification under quantal before the fix will get pushed to precise, or is there any way to help that along if I have an interest in getting this bug fixed in Ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdvdread/+bug/1223928
[04:55] <Ryan52> If so, I guess I'm particularly wondering if that would be the only thing holding it up.
[04:55] <AdBlocker> Dr_Willis: I need to run it with a GUI because of some software I am running on this computer.
[04:55] <AdBlocker> On that computer*
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker:  and a vncserver WILL give you a gui
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> you connect to with a vnc client
[04:55] <AdBlocker> Dr_Willis: I am just saying; it seemed as though you wanted me to still boot into text-only mode.
[04:55] <rostov> AdBlocker: is it booting up and not starting the desktop properly, or not booting up, or what exactly is the problem?
[04:55]  * Ryan52 feels like he should have asked in #ubuntu-dev, for some reason.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> or just ssh into the box. and run the client and using the X forwarding feature of ssh, have it appear locally
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker:  if you have no monitor. you dont NEED to boot up lightdm and the X server.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker:  you do not need X running or a local desktop to use vnc
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> the vncserver will start its own
[04:56] <AdBlocker> rostov: it doesn't complete the boot process. It throws some error about the resolution if I recall correctly.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker:  no monitor = X tries to get the res. and gets confused. vnc will not.
[04:56] <rostov> AdBlocker: OK i'm going to assume Dr_Willis got it right then, X can't get the res.
[04:57] <AdBlocker> Dr_Willis: thanks again.
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> this is also a common issue with people useing those KVM switch things. :)
[04:57] <AdBlocker> Now I just have to unplug this monitor....go to that computer....plug in the monitor....install this...
[04:57] <AdBlocker> gah 30-45 min process
[04:57] <AdBlocker> fml
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker:  you do know how to use ssh?
[04:57] <AdBlocker> Dr_Willis: yes
[04:57] <AdBlocker> Dr_Willis: Does vnc act as an ssh server?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> it you had a ssh server on the othe rmachine. that X error shouldent stop ssh from starting
[04:57] <ducky_> Hi-ho!
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> vnc can use ssh to add security
[04:58] <reisio> ducky_: hiho
[04:58] <AdBlocker> great
[04:58] <thumbee> whats difference if i wget a blah-bin.tar.gz vs a blah.tar.gz ? (in plain english plz)
[04:58] <ducky_> what r u doing?
[04:59] <reisio> thumbee: well, filenames don't necessarily mean much
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> thumbee:  sounds like one is compiled binaries. other is source
[04:59] <reisio> but yes, that ^
[04:59] <AdBlocker> Dragnslcr: do you know what language tightvnc is written in? Out of curiosity.
[04:59] <AdBlocker> Dr_Willis:*
[04:59] <ducky_> all people here use ubuntu or some other distro?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker:  no idea. i imagine c or c++
[04:59] <reisio> ducky_: I'd say most people here use Ubuntu
[04:59] <ducky_> hhmm
[04:59] <AdBlocker> right. thanks again
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> ducky_: ` this is the ubuntu support channel. so most of us are ubuntu
[05:00] <ducky_> oh
[05:00] <thumbee> :P stupid question.. but the binary one simply means it has like the executable files already. and no compiling required. ie. untar then run (for binary version)
[05:00] <ducky_> mmm
[05:00] <ducky_> sry
[05:00] <ducky_> im on crunchbang
[05:00] <ducky_> so
[05:00] <SchrodingersScat> ducky_: i'm in xubuntu, but it's similar enough
[05:00] <reisio> Dr_Willis: C
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> thumbee:  sounds like one is compiled binaries. <<<  bin = compiled binaries.. so yes.. what exactly are you messing with
[05:00] <ducky_> this is the default channel
[05:00] <ducky_> :P
[05:00] <ducky_> i like xubuntu
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> last i looked crunchbang was no longer based on ubuntu
[05:00] <ducky_> idk
[05:01] <ducky_> its
[05:01] <ducky_> debian
[05:01] <ducky_> but
[05:01] <reisio> thumbee: the binary one means you're doing it wrong :)
[05:01] <ducky_> here i am!
[05:01] <ducky_> xD!
[05:01] <FloodBot1> ducky_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:01] <reisio> the source one _could_ mean that it is merely unavailable precompiled
[05:01] <reisio> but probably also that you're doing it wrong
[05:01] <SchrodingersScat> ducky_: you might also want to check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:01] <thumbee> dr_willis: messing with u
[05:01] <rostov> i've just had a look at Tightvnc's source, it's c++
[05:01] <thumbee> jk. hadoop-1.2.1.tar.gz vs hadoop-1.2.1-bin.tar.gz :P
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> ducky_:  if you are using crunchbang then you really should find the crunchbang support channels
[05:02] <reisio> rostov: lies
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> I doubt if i could tell C from C++  ;) I had classes in Fortran in school. ;P
[05:02] <ducky_> okidoki
[05:02] <reisio> it's C
[05:02] <reisio> .c, not .cpp
[05:02] <thumbee> are u guys being sarcastic when ur saying "im doing it wrong" :s dont mess with me >:(
[05:02] <ducky_> thanks all
[05:03] <Ari-Yang> so I run dkms status and I get: vmware-modules, 9: added how do I uninstall it? I tried sudo dkms uninstall vmware-modules and it didn't work...
[05:03] <reisio> thumbee: finding random precompiled binaries and running them is "wrong" when you have a package manager
[05:03] <reisio> thumbee: if you can at all help it, which is most of the time
[05:03] <daftykins> Ari-Yang: vmware uninstaller script?
[05:03] <thumbee> and whats a package manager :p
[05:03] <rostov> reisio: it even says its c++ ... http://www.tightvnc.com/download.php
[05:03] <Ari-Yang> daftykins: where can I find that?
[05:04] <thumbee> ohh like apt-get
[05:04] <reisio> rostov: well I'm looking at the actual source code
[05:04] <daftykins> Ari-Yang: in vmware's docs
[05:04] <wzssyqa> without internet access, ntpd cannot act as a ntp server. Is it a bug or on purpose?
[05:04] <thumbee> yaya. no package manager here. just wget --> change config --> run :P so i think im right in this case
[05:04] <rostov> reisio: Yea it's .h and .cpp and there's classes in it
[05:04] <reisio> thumbee: intelligently managing packages and their dependencies, vs random binary installation and redundancy
[05:04] <Ari-Yang> daftykins: okay but I prefer to uninstall it with dkms if I can... am I running the command properly?
[05:04] <reisio> rostov: nope
[05:05] <daftykins> Ari-Yang: how do you know that the vmware uninstall script doesn't call dkms to remove the modules correctly? :)
[05:05] <reisio> rostov: that says for windows
[05:05] <reisio> it's probably some extra nonsense, for Windows
[05:06] <thumbee> another question: after i've "rm blahFolder" .. is it still in some trash can or gone for good? (ie. any simple command to see what i rm'ed) ?
[05:06] <Ari-Yang> daftykins: I see... alright I'll take a look, thanks
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> thumbee:  the rm command dosent do trash.,
[05:07] <SchrodingersScat> thumbee: gone
[05:07] <thumbee> damnit
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> theres some rm alternatives that make use of a trashcan
[05:07] <SchrodingersScat> thumbee: and you could get forensic on it
[05:07] <reisio> run 'type rm', if it doesn't say something silly, it's just gone
[05:08] <jony> hello
[05:08] <reisio> jony: hi
[05:08] <jony> ...
[05:08] <thumbee> rm is /bin/rm
[05:08] <reisio> that's one way to respond to hello :p
[05:08]  * sixy-home waves
[05:08] <reisio> thumbee: ordinary rm then
[05:08] <reisio> sixy-home: howdy
[05:08] <sixy-home> :)
[05:09] <sixy-home> fairly ok :)
[05:10] <jony> I'm from China
[05:10] <jony> chongqi
[05:10]  * sixy-home waves jony 
[05:10] <sixy-home> i'm from yougoslavia
[05:10] <sixy-home> :)
[05:10] <jony> 0.0
[05:10] <reisio> sixy-home: neat
[05:11] <reisio> I wish I were from a country that no longer existed
[05:11] <sixy-home> china so cool though :)
[05:11] <reisio> ikr
[05:11] <sixy-home> @.@ hehe reisio !!
[05:11] <sixy-home> ;d
[05:11] <sixy-home> yap, Tito passed away, Yougoslavia breaks appart :(
[05:11] <sixy-home> it happens, atleast some of us are ok with computer machines :)
[05:11] <rostov> what would i use to rebind some of the keys? I want to bind delete to shift-backspace
[05:12] <jony>               
[05:12] <jony> I'm nervous because my English is poor~~
[05:12] <sixy-home> sounds fairly Ok to me jony  :)
[05:12] <jony> The first play IRC
[05:13] <rostov> one of my machines is a chromebook and doesnt have a delete key. it's only got backspace. It would be nice to remap delete to shift-backspace. OK so I can google some programs to do it but anyone knows which are good and actually work? :-)
[05:13] <reisio> jony: seems fine to me
[05:14] <reisio> sixy-home: you beated me
[05:14] <sixy-home> hehe yar yar ;d
[05:14] <sixy-home> <- quick typer
[05:14] <jony> translate.google.om ... ..0.0......!!!!
[05:14] <sixy-home> 135-140 wpm how fast u guys type? :)
[05:14] <jony>             com
[05:16] <Matthew_Moore> i need help.   i can't  get  libdvdcss.sh   installed.  it says packages.medibuntu.org   is down.  i can't play my DVD's    :(
[05:16] <yc_yuy> hi all
[05:17] <reisio> hi
[05:17] <rostov> Matthew_Moore: http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> Matthew_Moore, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/the-medibuntu-project-comes-to-an-end.html
[05:18] <jony>       I am very poor standard of English  0.0
[05:18] <daftykins> wow you must be that guy that still watches DVDs
[05:18] <daftykins> an honour to make your acquaintance sir
[05:19] <daftykins> aww :(
[05:20] <rostov> daftykins: I still use optical drives when we go sailing. marine internet is useless.
[05:20] <Matthew_Moore> i alredy tried that. it says to enable pre release updates in software sources.  i don't have that option.   also that only solves it for VLC.  what about Totem and the other players??
[05:20] <daftykins> how many damn players do you want working at once? surely only one is needed
[05:21] <Matthew_Moore> i use Totem.  this dosent work for Totem
[05:21] <Matthew_Moore> or SMplayer, or mplayer.
[05:22] <Matthew_Moore> and it dosent work for VLC either since i don't have the pre release updates in my software sources.
[05:22] <Matthew_Moore> how hard is it to play a freaking DVD?   this is why i can't abondon windows. i want to. But stupid little problems like this one just make that impossible.
[05:23] <sixy-home> mattthew_moore ?
[05:23] <sixy-home> Matthew_Moore, it shouldnt be very hard at all mate
[05:23] <daftykins> Matthew_Moore: well, in some places it's illegal to play DVDs on Linux
[05:23] <daftykins> also i'm shocked people have a) optical drives b) DVD films c) the intention to watch them
[05:23] <Matthew_Moore> yes. its illegal here because of the DMCA.  but the libdvdscc.sh library  got around that.
[05:23] <daftykins> but i'm sure that if they did, google would provide the answer
[05:23] <Matthew_Moore> not i guess i no longer have that ability.
[05:24] <sixy-home> Matthew_Moore, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[05:24] <Matthew_Moore> sixy-home: Yes. that is what i have always used.  but it connects to packages.medibuntu.org  to get those packages.  that source no longer exsist. that's why in here.
[05:25] <Ben64> i didn't have to do anything special to get dvd playback working, just installed my favorite player (mplayer2)
[05:25] <Matthew_Moore> and the method listed in the forums dosent work for me. it says to enable pre-release updates in software sources. well i don't have that item in my software sources.
[05:25] <sixy-home> Matthew_Moore, ah ok, not sure about source not existing :(
[05:26] <Matthew_Moore> it was killed two days ago it seems. atleast that's when all these articles about it were posted.
[05:26] <sixy-home> for the most part vlc should play a lot ;d
[05:26] <Matthew_Moore> i installed Linux Mint erly in the week. and it worked then.  so  this source had to have been killed in just the last few days
[05:27] <rostov> Connecting to packages.medibuntu.org (packages.medibuntu.org)|92.242.132.15|:80... connected.
[05:27] <rostov> Oh are you on mint?
[05:28] <Matthew_Moore> there is one Mirror for packages.medibuntu.org that still works.  But  its empty.  so that's no help.
[05:28] <jony> What?
[05:29] <Matthew_Moore> i am talking to you from Mint on my desktop. But i am working on Ubuntu on my laptop.  This problem exsist in both distros. for me.  i have Mint help IRC open also.
[05:29] <Matthew_Moore> so far no working solution from either camp
[05:30] <daftykins> well Mint is a derivative
[05:30] <daftykins> so that's not hugely surprising
[05:34] <rostov> you are right, something has changed in the last few days
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> I found a wget for libdvdcss2 just installed it in precise
[05:40] <thumbee> would it be a problem if i ran "tar -xzvf blahFOlderName" as oppose to "tar xzf blahFolderName"
[05:41] <xtriz> what is dconf editor for ?
[05:41] <ArdilloLoco> no clue
[05:42] <rostov> xtriz: it edits dconf files, which store system configuration
[05:43] <xtriz> rostov, system configuration means themes, fonts, application settings etc ?
[05:43] <chrisward> thumbee, in tar, the - isn't required, the only difference is the v (verbose) flag, which just prints the file it's working on as it goes, there would be no problem, and it'd still work the same otherwise
[05:44] <thumbee> ohh kk
[05:44] <thumbee> ty
[05:44] <rostov> xtriz: There parts of those in there, yes. I don't know exactly what is covered, but you could always load it up and look inside
[05:44] <xtriz> rostov, ok
[05:44] <ArdilloLoco> so the editor has the config files already accessable without having to like vi each sperate?
[05:45] <ArdilloLoco> i'd look but i'm still waiting for my iso to download so i can install :(
[05:45] <ArdilloLoco> i hate slow internet
[05:46] <reisio> ArdilloLoco: whereabouts are you?
[05:46] <ArdilloLoco> BFE virtually
[05:46] <reisio> bfe?
[05:47] <ArdilloLoco> in washington state but in a vey rural area so internet is almost non-existant
[05:47] <reisio> fun
[05:47] <reisio> and where're you downloading from?
[05:47] <rostov> still better than i get while at sea
[05:47] <ArdilloLoco> i'm supposed to get 3Mbit up / down but the connection sucks
[05:47] <daftykins> wow, i live on a rock sticking out of the sea between England and France, i get 40/2
[05:48] <ArdilloLoco> at sea yikes!
[05:48] <reisio> daftykins: probably near an undersea cable
[05:48] <ArdilloLoco> i started the download just off the main ubuntu site
[05:48] <chrisward> daftykins, which country does that make you, then? :P
[05:48] <reisio> ArdilloLoco: hrmmm, could be anywhere, then
[05:48] <daftykins> well, we have fiber links with England and France yes
[05:48] <ArdilloLoco> i wish i could tap into one of those glorious under sea cables
[05:48] <reisio> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors ftw
[05:48] <reisio> yeah we need more undersea cables in WA
[05:48] <rostov> daftykins: Rocks have significantly better net access than boats ;-)
[05:49] <ArdilloLoco> lol
[05:49] <daftykins> chrisward: French place names but a crown dependancy under the British Queen!
[05:49] <daftykins> albeit our own government
[05:49] <ArdilloLoco> hell, if i could get cable i would be in a much better situation but they wont run the cabel an extra half mile to my house :(
[05:50] <ArdilloLoco> where are you at REISIO ?
[05:50] <bazhang> !ot
[05:50] <reisio> ArdilloLoco: over here
[05:50] <rostov> On a rock i get 8M and up. On a boat I get less than 1M
[05:50]  * wilee-nilee waves from over there
[05:50] <ArdilloLoco> lol
[05:51]  * chrisward waves from the Australia
[05:51] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[05:51] <chrisward> normally I'd agree, bazhang, but are there people at the moment requiring support? o-o
[05:51] <rostov> also downloading an ISO would cost more than the damn boat due to usage rates :-(
[05:52] <bazhang> chrisward, this is not the chat overflow channel at any time
[05:52] <rostov> well i had a support question. recommened way to rebind keys, one of my laptops has no delete key and i want it on shift-backspace
[05:53] <ArdilloLoco> hey that would be useful ... my del key is somewhat sticky :/
[05:53] <reisio> ~/.xmodmaprc ?
[05:54] <rostov> that works then?
[05:56] <daftykins> ah well since bazhang has put the uniform on, time for bed
[05:57] <ArdilloLoco> sounds about right
[06:01] <ArdilloLoco> ok guys, just one more quick question and then i'll leave you all alone for awhile ...
[06:02] <ArdilloLoco> what's your recommendation for an email server i can run on ubuntu server ?
[06:02] <chrisward> I use postfix, but there are many good options out there, I haven't done much research into it though ;)
[06:03] <ws2k3> ArdilloLoco you can use whatever you like
[06:03] <ws2k3> debian ubuntu centos red hat
[06:03] <reisio> email is so antiquated
[06:03] <ArdilloLoco> i've heard of postfix before, never really dived into it but i'll look into it
[06:05] <cbilljones> wafflejock are you the one who helped me with the indicator-session issue?
[06:07] <chrisward> ws2k3, I believe he was looking for a software package, not a distro
[06:08] <Dark_Hunter> finaly
[06:08] <Dark_Hunter> ops
[06:36] <EricKit> Hello.  I have a Lenovo Twist. The Touchpad doesn't work if I start from a cold shutdown. It does work if I restart (I can restart using the touchscreen, which always works).
[06:36] <reisio> ...how does it ever work, then
[06:37] <EricKit> I have posted this question on askubuntu and the Ubuntun+1 forums without luck.  I als ohave more iformation on the outputs from dmesg
[06:37] <Gallomimia> initramfs unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[06:37] <EricKit> reisio:  If I boot into ubuntu, then use the touchscreen to restart, then it will work
[06:37] <Gallomimia> can't get my new system to boot a liveUSB stick
[06:37] <reisio> EricKit: wow
[06:38] <reisio> EricKit: get the xinput --list output from both when it isn't working and when it is
[06:38] <ton> How to delete watermark AMD Unsupported hardware?
[06:39] <EricKit> reisio: When it is working the Synaptics Touchpad is there, when it is not, the touchpad is not working.  Also from dmsg on boot the things loaded from a restart that are not loaded from a cold boot are serio1: Synaptics: Touchpad Model, SynPS/S Synaptics Touchpad, psmouse serio2, psmouse serio1, SYNPS/2 Synaptics Touchpad and TPPS/2 IBM Trackpoint
[06:39] <reisio> ton: hi :)
[06:39] <reisio> ton: every used a search engine? :)
[06:39] <reisio> ever, eben
[06:40] <EricKit> reisio: there is a post with the details here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/354305/mouse-and-keyboard-dont-work-from-shutdown-do-work-from-restart
[06:42] <ton> reisio: i tried.
[06:42] <reisio> it's just that over here, typing in the exact msg you sent explains how
[06:44] <ton> - -
[06:44] <EricKit> If anyone could help answer this question I would greatly appreciate it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/354305/mouse-and-keyboard-dont-work-from-shutdown-do-work-from-restart
[06:44] <EricKit> I've tried google, askubuntu, and ubuntu+1 forums with no luck.  If you can't answer it could you at least up vote it?  Thank you very much.
[06:45] <Svetlana> ton: give this channel a bit. People may ask you to search but someone would link you to a useful guide in a bit.
[06:45] <ionutica-99> EricKit have you tried setting in BIOS Power on by KEYBOARD/MOUSE
[06:45] <ton> Who used to play a Dota2?
[06:46] <Svetlana> Maybe not many people here.
[06:46] <Svetlana> I frankly have no idea what your original question was about. (I don't know what "watermark AMD Unsupported hardware" is.) I hope someone would pick it up in a bit.
[06:46] <EricKit> ionutica-99 I looked in my bios but didn't see that option.  I'll check for it again.  Thanks!
[06:47] <ionutica-99> EricKit it may also apper as something that contains the words Power on
[06:47] <Gallomimia> alright so i'm getting the standard: "initramfs unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error on a system i just set up. I'm trying to ubuntu via a USB disk. any tips would be appreciated
[06:47] <EricKit> ionutica-99  I looked through there for something like that, but worth checking again for sure.  I agree it's got to be a hardware thing.  Why do you think this option would be causing it?
[06:48] <zykotick9> Svetlana: that ati/amd watermark crap is evil, IMO.  it's reason #56 why I'll never own there hardware.
[06:48] <ionutica-99> EricKit well the pc turnes on via click on touchpad or other thing only if it is enabled in the BIOS to do so
[06:48] <EricKit> Gallomimia: Some more information, what exactly are you doing?  Are you dual booting? Are you using UEFI? Did you install from the live USB?
[06:49] <Gallomimia> i have no OS on the system yet
[06:49] <Gallomimia> just want to install ubuntu
[06:49] <ionutica-99> EricKit if you want to make sure he'll wake up on hibernation you should set S3(STR) in ACPI (SUSPEND TO RAM)
[06:49] <Gallomimia> ah, is there uefi in ubuntu?
[06:50] <EricKit> ionutica-99: Okay, S3 is my current option, but I'll check that again.. I have other suspend issues :) It automatically wakes up
[06:50] <ionutica-99> EricKit great it might also be that you are supposed to wake your pc up using the power button(like in most laptops)
[06:50] <Svetlana> zykotick9; OK. I add the adjective "evil" to a concept I have nil knowledge of. That is inspiring. :-)
[06:51] <EricKit> Gallomimia: Yes! If you have a 64 bit computer with UEFI enabled YOU MUST use a 64 bit version of Ubuntu, and it will install automatically as UEFI.  Without it, it won't ever see it!  Also it supports secure boot via shim
[06:51] <EricKit> ionutica-99 I'm going to reboot soon and test this
[06:51] <ionutica-99> EricKit do you have linux?
[06:52] <zykotick9> Svetlana: try an image-search for ati watermark, if you are interested...
[06:52] <EricKit> ionutica-99: Right now I'm just dual booting ubuntu and Windows 8
[06:52] <ionutica-99> EricKit wait if it automaticaly wakes up it's os problem
[06:52] <ionutica-99> EricKit windows 7 used to do this to me
[06:52] <zykotick9> Svetlana: you need to "see it, to believe it" ;)
[06:52] <Gallomimia> will my USB drive want to use uefi?
[06:53] <EricKit> ionutica-99: Ubuntu always automatically wakes up from sleep.  No matter what.  Only in Ubuntu, not Windows.  I'd ditch Windows all together if there was Office for it (and Ineed Microsoft office, not a substitute, and 2013 so Wine doesn't help).
[06:54] <EricKit> Gallomimia: IT depends on what's enabled in your BIOS.  If it is UEFI, it will install as UEFI.  If it's disabled, then it will install with a Master boot Record
[06:54] <ionutica-99> EricKit ok look there are these kinds of "hardware" that don't work after shutdown/hibernation only if you plug them in again
[06:54] <ionutica-99> EricKit I used to have a mouse, that when I hibernated stopped working I had to replug it every time
[06:54] <ton> Svetlana: I don't understand in English language cause i don't use it often.
[06:54] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: usb must be formatted as FAT32 also for UEFI
[06:55] <Gallomimia> well, i am setting up the bios and simply trying to get the live iso on a usb stick to boot
[06:55] <EricKit> ionutica-99: Okay, that sounds like my issue (except I can't replug it in
[06:55] <Gallomimia> or... ANYTHING to boot
[06:55] <EricKit> Gaollomimia: Are you using 32-bit or 64-bit?
[06:55] <ionutica-99> EricKit give me this file: /var/log/pm-suspend.log
[06:55] <ionutica-99> EricKit I need this log
[06:55] <EricKit> ionutica-99: Will you be here in 10 minutes?
[06:55] <Gallomimia> 64 is the notion
[06:56] <ionutica-99>  yes
[06:56] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: have you disabled secure boot and fast boot?
[06:56] <EricKit> Gallomimia: Okay, then it shouldn't matter
[06:56] <EricKit> Ionutica-99: Okay I'm rebooting into Ubuntu
[06:56] <Gallomimia> no hitsujiTMO
[06:57] <hitsujiTMO> you need to disable secure boot for definate, some systems also require fast boot disabled ( inits usb too late )
[06:59] <Gallomimia> alright i'll look into that
[06:59] <EricKit> ionica-99: Okay I'm back, what log did you want?
[07:00] <ionutica-99> EricKit pm me
[07:06] <helmut_> hi
[07:07] <Svetlana> hello
[07:10] <pranav> i am ubuntu user, i need to user a n/w related software under freebsd. i need atleast 2 freebsd hosts to test them. how to do so ?
[07:11] <buu> pranav: virtual machines
[07:11] <Gallomimia> well, there's no fast-boot
[07:12] <cfhowlett> pranav, install virtualbox.  install other OS to virtualbox.  have fun.
[07:12] <chrisward> challenge: install virtualbox in virtualbox in virtualbox etc. etc.
[07:12] <chrisward> somehow, make the image link to itself maybe? :P
[07:12] <chrisward> infinite virtual machines :D
[07:13] <pranav> buu:  cfhowlett:  i know. but does that means i need to run 3 os at the same time? ubuntu with virtualbox. and 2 freebsd inside it with are networked with each other
[07:13] <cfhowlett> pranav, yet, that is doable
[07:14] <cfhowlett> i think
[07:14] <cfhowlett> not sure about running 2 virtualboxes simultaneously
[07:14] <pranav> can't we create 2 virtual hosts (networked computer) inside a single OS. just to test networking software instead of running 2 complete os at the same time ?
[07:15] <buu> pranav: each virtual machine runs a single instance of freebsd
[07:15] <buu> Run as many as you want
[07:15] <pranav> ok
[07:16] <SupaSol> Hello here
[07:16] <pranav> buu: you mean it is efficient than i think
[07:18] <gccster> guys i'm having exactly the same problem as this http://askubuntu.com/questions/289414/rtl8723ae-driver-problem-ubuntu-13-04 with my wireless card rtl8723ae i also change to kernel 3.9.0 from mainline is there really any solution?
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> gccster, I would get a plug and works usb, those are notoriously a problem, you can get usb wifi cheap.
[07:21] <gccster> wilee-nilee, this a a small laptop for carrying here and there
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> and that means?
[07:23] <hitsujiTMO> wilee-nilee: you can also buy internal wireless on ebay ... usually fairly cheap. just find one that runs well on linux
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> thats my point
[07:23] <gccster> i think a better solution would be to solve this with software but is there really a solution ou tthere?
[07:24] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, that should have been for gccster woops
[07:24] <gccster> maybe custom kernels
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> gccster, would be nice but I rarely see these gotten to work here is all with any efficiency if at all.
[07:25] <rampageRipper> hi DeepBlue
[07:25] <gccster> wilee-nilee, so its a common problem?
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> gccster, rtl cards yes
[07:25] <gccster> alright i see
[07:26] <gccster> wilee-nilee, with 3.9 kernels its gotten a bit better but still bad
[07:26] <gccster> with the 3.8's it was very very bad
[07:26] <Gallomimia> i've tried a lot of things to get this usb key to boot. nothing is working for me
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> gccster, It's a bummer for sure, you might try making a thread at the ubuntu forums
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> got to be a few there already
[07:27] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia anything at all showing up in your boot menu?
[07:28] <Gallomimia> sure
[07:28] <Gallomimia> try, install
[07:28] <Gallomimia> couple other things, verify
[07:28] <hitsujiTMO> oh so its booting the usb at least?
[07:28] <Gallomimia> yeah
[07:28] <Gallomimia> uh. OEM install?!
[07:28] <hitsujiTMO> ok what graphcs you got?
[07:29] <Gallomimia> it's an ASUS radeon 7790
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> gccster, Here is a google link with the card and ubuntu forums, might help. https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&q=rtl8723ae+ubuntu+forums
[07:29] <hitsujiTMO> what exactly happens when you go to install or try ?
[07:29] <Gallomimia> the ubuntu screen displays and all
[07:29] <gccster> wilee-nilee, alright let me see
[07:29] <Gallomimia> it clicks along like you'd expect for a minute or two then pops up with the error: initramfs unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[07:30] <hitsujiTMO> how did you create the usb image?
[07:30] <Gallomimia> sometimes it pukes a long screen of text that doesn't seem to make much sense
[07:30] <Gallomimia> i tried pendrivelinux and now i've done it with unetbootin
[07:31] <hitsujiTMO> from windows?
[07:32] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: this is what i've used in the past and has worked without a flaw for me: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[07:34] <Gallomimia> well, i really don't want to run around with thirty pieces of software when the USB stick seems to have been made just fine. there's a problem with the boot or the attempt to use the HD
[07:34] <Gallomimia> which is formatted mac and needs erasure
[07:34] <Ben64> "initramfs unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[07:34] <Ben64> that means the usb stick is NOT fine
[07:35] <c0de_> server irc.undernet.org
[07:35] <Ben64> if theres something in windows that can write an image directly to the usb, you could do that, but i'm not that familiar with windows software
[07:36] <Gallomimia> that makes two of us. i'm running a mac
[07:36] <cfhowlett> Ben64, nope.  all such utilities are after market add-ons
[07:36] <Ben64> oh, well then use dd
[07:38] <ton> I use 2OS windows7 and ubuntu. I install windows7 before ubuntu 13.04 after that boot in windows7 and install easyBCD add entry ubuntu for Boot menu. but i selected ubuntu to meet Grub so i want to delete grub. How to?Thankyou
[07:38] <Ben64> ton: why not just use grub?
[07:39] <Gallomimia> for an installation procedure that involves so many people talking about double checking the md5 hash, i sure am having trouble finding the checksum to compare to
[07:40] <ton> Ben64: i think it Duplicate Boot menu.
[07:40] <Gallomimia> ahhhhh there it is
[07:41] <Ben64> ton: well you can't boot ubuntu without grub
[07:42] <ton> Ben64: Okay thankyou.
[07:46] <cbilljones> just wanted to say thx, really came through when i needed them the most. I can now confidently deploy ubuntu with my enterprise software with only a few modifications; the assistance provided was extremely appreciative :)
[08:01] <kwtm> Hi. How do I find the MD5 checksum of the iso images of the Ubuntu boot disks?  In my case, I'm checking for corruption in my Kubuntu 12.04 DVD.
[08:01] <kwtm> Google doesn't seem to come up with the right thing.
[08:01] <Ben64> !md5
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> kwtm: should be on the sites that host the links
[08:02] <kwtm> aeon-ltd: Yes, thanks for the info.  Which is the site the hosts the links?
[08:02] <Ben64> !md5 | kwtm
[08:02] <kwtm> (I have the ISO from a long time ago)
[08:02] <kwtm> Thanks ubottu.
[08:03] <Gallomimia> alright. i'm going to give up here. i checked the md5, and i tried dd to remake the flask disk. everything gives the same result. try to install ubuntu, gives error: md5sum ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso
[08:03] <Gallomimia> er
[08:03] <Gallomimia> initramfs unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[08:04] <Ben64> 11.10? get a newer one
[08:04] <Ben64> 12.04 or 13.04
[08:05] <Gallomimia> it's 13.04
[08:05] <Ben64> you just said 11.10
[08:05] <Gallomimia> well you're the average computer nerd with the stick up their ass about every little error. trust me it's 13.04
[08:06] <Ben64> !attitude | Gallomimia
[08:06] <Ben64> i'm done with you
[08:06] <mamed> hello guys . i have windows vista and ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop . how can i make a network between these machines . is it possible?
[08:06] <Gallomimia> obviously
[08:07] <Kartstorm> mamed: what do you mean by network?
[08:07] <gordonjcp> kwtm: where did you download the ISO from?  Usually the md5sums are listed alongside
[08:07] <mamed> yes
[08:07] <Gallomimia> mamed: you will need to run both of them at the same time to make a network
[08:07] <mamed> both OS (ubuntu and windows) are on my laptop
[08:07] <Gallomimia> this implies a virtual machine or something
[08:08] <kwtm> gordonjcp: Yes, I agree.  I can't remember the exact place where I got the torrent from.  I downloaded it a year ago.
[08:08] <mamed> hmm . i see . so i must create a common harddisk space
[08:08] <mamed> ok guyz thnz
[08:09] <kwtm> Successfully found MD5 sum, and am now burning.
[08:09] <gordonjcp> kwtm: oh, go and grab a fresh one.  Various updates have rolled into the iso since then
[08:10] <gordonjcp> kwtm: in general if it's downloaded fully it's okay, there's not really anything that can corrupt it "in flight" as it were
[08:10] <kwtm> gordonjcp: Sorry, the reason I'm using this DVD iso is that I can't download a new one.  (Not to a DVD I can burn, anyway.)
[08:10] <kwtm> gordonjcp: BUt I believe it doesn't matter, since the computer I'm installing it to can update itself when it installs?  No?
[08:11] <gordonjcp> yes
[08:11] <kwtm> gordonjcp: By "corrupt" I am including the possibility of having downloaded malware (though risk is low).
[08:14] <abdulrahman> hi
[08:14] <gordonjcp> kwtm: well, it's an iso
[08:14] <gordonjcp> kwtm: it's quite hard for it to contain malware, without you noticing
[08:15] <kmels> hi, how can I launch a script when a key combo is pressed?
[08:15] <kmels> is there something on ubuntu?
[08:17] <e-coffee> bash scripting?
[08:17] <gordonjcp> kmels: have you got the script written?
[08:17] <kmels> gordonjcp, yes
[08:17] <kmels> some binary i would like to execute
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> if you can launch a program from a key combo you can reassign it to any executable, you just need to know whatever you're using to assign combos
[08:18] <kwtm> gordonjcp: ??  What do you mean?  Suppose someone replaces bash or something with a different one and puts the malware iso somewhere out there?  How would I notice?  I guess someone else might, but I'm not that 1337.
[08:18] <gordonjcp> kmels: go into the Keyboard settings, and look at "custom shortcut"
[08:18] <gordonjcp> kwtm: again, where did you download it from?
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> kwtm, out there, where?
[08:18] <gordonjcp> kwtm: if you're getting your isos from one of the official mirrors, don't worry about it
[08:18] <kwtm> gordonjcp: Again, I don't remember.  Again, that's why I want the MD5.
[08:19] <kwtm> Anyway, burning done.  Thanks for all your help, folks!
[08:19] <gordonjcp> kwtm: if you're getting them from windowsupdate.hornypornysluts.ru then perhaps you need to examine your technique slightly
[08:19] <kmels> gordonjcp, i found it, thanks
[08:20] <kwtm> gordonjcp: Oh my gosh, that's exactly where I downloaded it from!  But don't worry, I checked it against the MD5 sum I found on that same website, which is 0x0000deadbeef00000 and it matche EXACTLY!  So I'm safe!
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> hehe
[08:20] <cbilljones> ive got a binary at "/opt/sybase/SYBSsa8/bin/dbsrv8" that i want to be able to invoke in a terminal with just "dbsrv8" how do i do that?
[08:21] <gordonjcp> cbilljones: symlink it, maybe?
[08:21] <gordonjcp> cbilljones: that's a pretty crazy and random path though
[08:21] <gordonjcp> cbilljones: can you compile it with something saner?
[08:22] <cbilljones> gordonjcp that was my 1st thought, symlink to m/usr/bin or?? its not something i can compile unfortunatleym that just were my instructions tell me to put it lol
[08:23] <cbilljones> gordonjcp but program scripts just call dbsrv8, it was written for suse
[08:29] <Nikita_Krsk> Help me! :)
[08:30] <gordonjcp> !help | Nikita_Krsk
[08:30] <gordonjcp> cbilljones: I don't know, then, try symlinking to /usr/bin
[08:30] <gordonjcp> cbilljones: you may need to faff with the library paths too
[08:33] <Nikita_Krsk> I have a problem with proprietary driver for Radeon HD 6370M. When I turn on this driver, Unity and Compiz are crush. Then I must backup not proprietary driver for Intel AGP. :(
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> You have a dual gpu system? an Intel and AMD video chipsets?
[08:36] <tmnameless77> 00
[08:48] <anon> When installing ubuntu in UEFI should I install the bootloader in the default /sdb when dual booting with windows 8 ?
[08:49] <someonefromslo> hello! is there anyone who can help me a little bit with programming in vala, because i don't know how to properly create form layout?
[08:49] <streulma> hello, I'm a software tester and I need a good system on an old dual core PC. Should I use Ubuntu with a virtual Windows? Or Windows with a virtual ubuntu?
[08:50] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | anon
[08:50] <wilee-nilee> anon, more, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[08:50] <anon> wilee-nilee, It doesn't say what I asked there
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> anon, Never installed it my self but I believe it goes in a partition, not sure which with uefi.
[08:52] <rampageRipper> the systerm wouldn't detect the printer
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> rampageRipper, You open printers to check?
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> streulma, I would dual boot it myself.
[08:54] <rampageRipper> wilee-nilee: it's open right now
[08:56] <wilee-nilee> rampageRipper, You hit the + ?
[08:58] <rampageRipper> wilee-nilee: it's disabled
[08:58] <rampageRipper> disabeled
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> rampageRipper, This printer plugged in with a usb? if so run lsusb and see if it shows.
[09:00] <rampageRipper> wilee,yes it is,how 2 run lsusb?
[09:00] <wilee-nilee> rampageRipper, In the terminal
[09:01] <wilee-nilee> rampageRipper, YOU in the account you made when you installed the admin?
[09:03] <rampageRipper> wilee-nilee: http://dpaste.com/1414188/
[09:08] <wilee-nilee> rampageRipper, It is 2am here I have to crash, however I see this printer working in multiple links, here is one. http://askubuntu.com/questions/171365/what-is-the-cheapest-most-efficient-printer-thats-compatible-with-linux/171371#171371 here is a thread at th UF on it, the HP drivers anre mentioned as well here. I use a HP with no problems, they generally run. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
[09:08] <wilee-nilee> t=1979824
[09:15] <Guest30230> sunny_le
[09:16] <sunny_le> i am really confused can't decide should i build my home serve on ubuntu LTS or ubuntu desktop ? :(
[09:16] <Myrtti> sunny_le: LTS.
[09:16] <Myrtti> well
[09:16] <Myrtti> sunny_le: you can have both, you know.
[09:17] <sunny_le> Myrtti, my only concern is that in desktop when updating to newer release say 13.10 will it break things ?
[09:17] <Myrtti> sunny_le: so install the 12.04 with Desktop.
[09:18] <sunny_le> Myrtti, ok
[09:19] <e-coffee> hi :) does ubuntu devs have a plan for uefi intergration?
[09:22] <bazhang> !uefi > e-coffee
[09:22] <e-coffee> thank you :)
[09:49] <zeo> i have a computer for which i don't have any password anymore, is here a way to unlock it without reinstalling? at startup, i don't see the grub menu, but only a windows/linux choice
[09:50] <Ben64> zeo: you forgot your ubuntu password?
[09:50] <zeo> Ben64: yes
[09:50] <Ben64> !password | zeo
[09:52] <zeo> Ben64: ok thanks, but are you sure that grub will show up? i'm not even sure that grub was installed, i think it's windows which proposes the choice at startup (it's not actually my computer so i cannot try right now)
[09:52] <Ben64> grub is probably the screen with the choice
[09:57] <intore> hi, i need to disable STA wireless driver from terminal but i don't understand how to do. Could you help me please?
[09:57] <zeo> Ben64: can't it be the windows boot manager? from what the person described, it didn't look like grub at all
[09:57] <zeo> for instance there wasn't a recovery mode of things like grub displays
[09:57] <cfhowlett> Ben64, grub will display "grub" ...
[09:58] <zeo> so i suspect that only the windows manager is showing up
[09:58] <geirha> zeo: Try holding down shift after selecting Linux
[09:58] <zeo> windows boot manager, i don't even know how it's called
[10:00] <Caelum> how can I check if a file is a regular file or marked as a conffile?
[10:00] <zeo> fe=
[10:00] <zeo> geirha: ok thanks
[10:00] <geirha> Caelum: There's no metadata that says a file is a conffile or not
[10:00] <Caelum> geirha: sure there is, that's how it checks for changes on upgrades
[10:01] <geirha> Caelum: What's "it"?
[10:01] <Caelum> dpkg, it says "conf file changed, install new/show diff/etc."
[10:01] <Caelum> you know those prompts?
[10:02] <geirha> Ah, in a deb package.
[10:03] <Caelum> I guess I can look in the deb
[10:05] <Caelum> geirha: aha, found it, /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.conffiles
[10:10] <larryxiao> connect chat.freenode.net
[10:10] <Caelum> you are here
[10:15] <linuxuz3r> can i see a demo of mir
[10:17] <pseudorandom> Hi all! When I run "sudo update-grub" windows (although installed) isn't listed. How can I fix that?
[10:17] <Rory> pseudorandom: Hi, can you please post the output of the command: "sudo fdisk -l " on http://paste.ubuntu.com?
[10:17] <Rory> pseudorandom: Also what Ubuntu version are you using; use the command "cat /etc/issue" to find out
[10:18] <pseudorandom> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6226213/
[10:18] <pseudorandom> Rory: ubuntu 12.04
[10:19] <pseudorandom> so in output of "sudo fdisk -l" boot partition is windows' partition (/dev/sda4) i don't know why :S
[10:20] <Caelum> does it boot to linux or windows?
[10:20] <pseudorandom> it boots only to linux
[10:20] <Caelum> that's strange
[10:20] <pseudorandom> yeah
[10:20] <Rory> pseudorandom: can you try "sudo apt-get install os-prober"
[10:20] <Caelum> did you perchance install grub onto the windows partition?
[10:21] <pseudorandom> Rory: I have os-prober, and here's it's output: "/dev/sda4:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain"
[10:21] <Caelum> pseudorandom: try this: sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:21] <Rory> pseudorandom: Can you also pastebin the output of "sudo update-grub"
[10:21] <intore> solved! blacklisting wl module and adding b43 module in /etc/modules
[10:22] <Caelum> pseudorandom: then check the .cfg for the windows entry
[10:22] <varunendra> intore, what was the problem?
[10:23] <loren> CIAO
[10:23] <loren> !LIST
[10:24] <pseudorandom> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6226240/
[10:24] <intore> varunendra, disable sta driver for bradcom wireless network card and activate b43 driver
[10:25] <rampageRipper> how 2 connect 2 spotchat server in xchat,it's not in the list
[10:26] <varunendra> intore, if the b43 works for you, you should simply purge the sta driver. Purging it automatically removes b43 from blacklist so you don't need to add it to /etc/modules.
[10:26] <linuxuz3r> hi
[10:26] <pseudorandom> Caelum: actually I don't see WIndows entry there, here't is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6226245/
[10:26] <linuxuz3r> does gnome and kde run on mir
[10:27] <intore> varunendra, but b43 didn't start automatically at boot
[10:27] <BluesKaj_> Hi folks
[10:29] <varunendra> intore, if sta is installed, it blacklists b43.
[10:29] <pseudorandom> I thought whatever os-prober finds must be in grub's list once i run grub-update :S
[10:30] <varunendra> pseudorandom, did you try boot-repair yet?
[10:30] <intore> varunendra, ok. how to purge sta drivers?!?!
[10:30] <pseudorandom> varunendra: no, at least not yet
[10:30] <pseudorandom> I will give it a try then
[10:32] <varunendra> pseudorandom, when in Ubuntu, can you see the boot and the windows files in windows partition?
[10:32] <Rory> pseudorandom: sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[10:32] <pseudorandom> varunendra: yes, there's a "367gb partition" volume
[10:33] <pseudorandom> and windows' files are there
[10:33] <pseudorandom> that's C: drive
[10:33] <pseudorandom> Rory: nothing changed.. :(
[10:34] <varunendra> pseudorandom, is the "Boot" folder there? With BCD file in it?
[10:35] <pseudorandom> varunendra : there is a Boot folder and a BCD file
[10:36] <varunendra> pseudorandom, in the same NTFS partition or in the FAT32 one?
[10:36] <pseudorandom> varunendra: it's NTFS partition
[10:36] <pseudorandom> it's /dev/sda4 as far as I know
[10:38] <bloat> hi, i'm using an old ubuntu 11 live cd to copy several hundred gb from one big, modern sata hdd to another big, modern sata hdd. i get a very steady, but slow 21,6mb/s no matter what the filesize is. it feels to me like something is limiting the transfer rate. can anyone give me an advice what to look for?
[10:39] <varunendra> pseudorandom, not sure if it can be a problem, but the starting cylinder (guessing by block) seems too far away for a boot partition. Try boot-repair and post back its Summary report if it can't fix it automatically
[10:39] <pseudorandom> varunendra: is the only way of running boot-repair is using a livecd? because that's what I don't have :/
[10:39] <Caelum> pseudorandom: you'll have to debug the osprober script in grub.d and figure out why it isn't working
[10:40] <varunendra> pseudorandom, you can install it via ppa in your installed Ubuntu
[10:41] <pseudorandom> varunendra: btw, when in installed windows 7, before fixing grub using gparted livecd, it was able to boot, so I guess that shouldn't be the problem
[10:41] <pseudorandom> i'll try boot-repair, give me few mins.
[10:43] <kingplusplus> I am doing a dynamic forwarding  using the following command ssh -v -C -D 9100 root@IP .... is there no way to make it hidden cos I sometimes close the terminal mistakenly
[10:44] <bloat> kingplusplus, you could use screen
[10:44] <kingplusplus> bloat, what is screen pls?
[10:44] <kingplusplus> bloat, i never heard of screen how do i go about it ?
[10:45] <bloat> screen is like a window manager for terminals, you can run a programm in a "screen" and then de-attach it and let it run without a terminal opened, and you can re-attach the screen to access the running program again
[10:46] <pseudorandom> ok guys, here's the output from boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/6226298/
[10:46] <pseudorandom> i have to restart now to see if it worked or not
[10:47] <kingplusplus> bloat, nice, i am installing it now to give it a shot
[10:47] <streulma> is it possible t recover lost deleted partition ?
[10:47] <bloat> i used it extensively on my server to do stuff like you did over ssh
[10:47] <streulma> formatted
[10:48] <bloat> if its quick format, then its quite easy streulma
[10:48] <streulma> bloat how ?
[10:48] <bloat> i don't know a linux tool, but under windows i used stellar phoenix sucessfully
[10:50] <pseudorandom> alright, now I can see windows in grub's list during boot-up. it seems to be fixed. thanks a lot all of you :) varunendra, Rory, Caelum
[10:53] <kingplusplus> bloat, please any tutorial on using the screen?
[10:53] <bloat> uhm
[10:54] <bloat> afair ALT+D to de-attach, and screen -r for a list of de-attached sessions
[10:54] <gordonjcp> !screen
[10:54] <gordonjcp> !tmux
[10:54] <bloat> ah.
[10:54] <bloat> ubuntu wiki refused to give me an english page on screen
[10:54] <gordonjcp> there's no factoid for tmux
[10:55] <gordonjcp> screen is so last week
[10:55] <gordonjcp> all the cool kids are using tmux
[10:56]  * bloat stares at a file copy dialog showing a steady 21,6mb/s
[10:56] <xQuasar> i'm on ubuntu 13.04 and things just keep disappearing off my launcher after i've locked them on, randomly.
[10:56] <xQuasar> any ideas?
[10:56] <bloat> probably thats nsa's processing speed.
[10:56] <Caelum> bloat: that's possible on usb2
[10:56] <bloat> its SATA II
[10:56] <bloat> from one disk to another disk
[10:56] <bloat> huge files
[10:57] <bloat> and its steady for 2 hrs now
[10:57] <bloat> its not moving up or down even 0,1mb/s
[10:57] <Caelum> what's the write speed of a modern hdd?
[10:57] <bloat> clearly something is limiting
[10:57] <Caelum> should be more than that
[10:57] <bloat> 100MB/s at least.
[10:57] <bloat> its two 1.5TB 3,5" disks.
[10:58] <Caelum> weird
[10:58] <bloat> well i'm using an ubuntu 11 live cd.
[10:59] <streulma> bloat: it didn't find my lost partition back, it's checking cilinders
[10:59] <bloat> what tool are you using?
[11:02] <bloat> streulma, stellar has two different search modes, quick and intensive. the intensive one will find lost partions, the quick one won't. afair. i once found a lost partion that was partially overwritten and stellar managed to scratch even half-way overwritten files from that.
[11:06] <anonimo> Hi everybody! I just need an hand to install an usb wi-fi adapter on a " lenovo " laptop 'cause i've got difficults in finding the drivers. The adapter is a sitecom n300 model . Can someone help me ?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> anonimo:  step 1 would be to determine its exact chipset. 'lsusb' should show that info
[11:08] <anonimo> Dr_Willis: Bus 002 Device 009: ID 0df6:006c Sitecom Europe B.V.
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> and thats about as far as i can help. I made sure to buy wifi usb dongles that worked out of the box.
[11:08] <archyme> haha
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> got some decent ones on amazon for like $15 these days
[11:08] <bloat> the lenovo doesnt have an integreated wifi?
[11:09] <faugusztin> anonimo: driver package for that card says it is Realtek 8891/92SU
[11:10] <varunendra> anonimo, your only hope may be windows xp/win7 driver with ndiswrapper. If I remember correctly, there is no linux driver for that chip yet.
[11:10] <Caelum> in which case, you can just use ndiswrapper for the chip in the laptop
[11:12] <sacrelicious> hello all, for some reason when I start Ubuntu with Cinnamon I get a message saying cinnamon has crashed and is currently in fallback mode, and it asks me to restart
[11:12] <sacrelicious> any idea why?
[11:12] <anonimo> bloat: Yes, lenovo has an integrated wifi, but doesn't exist a working driver! I have a no good wifi signal and I often miss the connection.
[11:13] <archyme> anonimo, what model lenovo?
[11:13] <kaddi> !+1
[11:13] <faugusztin> anonimo: i apologize, it is 8188/8191/8192SU :P
[11:14] <varunendra> anonimo, which card is the internal one? (lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net)
[11:14] <anonimo> varunendra:  Before installing ubuntu i'd like to solve this problem. I've tried to use ndiswrapper, it installs the driver but does not charge the module in live cd modality
[11:16] <anonimo> varunendra: http://nopaste.info/53a4695997.html
[11:16] <varunendra> anonimo, I have almost no experience with ndiswrapper, but I think you can just modprobe the installed driver once it is ready.
[11:16] <faugusztin> anonimo: both of your wifi adapters should work if that is from your system
[11:16] <faugusztin> anonimo: *network
[11:17] <varunendra> anonimo, did you try any backported ath9k driver yet?
[11:18] <anonimo> faugusztin: But both of them don't work... I have tried every possible driver! I'm a bit desperate :)
[11:18] <varunendra> anonimo, I have the very same internal card and it works absolutely fine, but then I am still using kernel 3.2-0-36. The newer kernels seem to have some issues with ath9k, which is apparently fixed in 3.11
[11:19] <anonimo> varunendra: Can I try them in live cd? Which is the right repository to download them?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> anonimo:  you may want to test with a 13.10 live dvd.  13.10 is due to be officially released on the 17th
[11:20] <varunendra> anonimo, not sure, but probably the "...cw.." package from "proposed" repo
[11:21] <anonimo> Dr_Willis:  I'm tring to use a 12.04 distribution version
[11:22] <varunendra> anonimo, 12.04 or 12.04.3?
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> anonimo:  its possible it will jsut 'work' with 13.10.  unless you have a good reason to want to stick to 12.04
[11:22] <anonimo> varunendra: I'm sorry if i make you waste your time, but may you write me the exact package?
[11:23] <archyme> anonimo,  what model lenovo?
[11:23] <varunendra> anonimo, I'm searching the exact thread with the tested instructions :)
[11:24] <anonimo> Dr_Willis: No, i have not! I I want to use linux because I can't really use Windows :P
[11:24] <anonimo> archyme: Lenovo B570e
[11:24] <anonimo> varunendra: Thanks a lot
[11:25] <varunendra> anonimo, no probs :), here is the post (although now there is an even newer version out) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2173686&p=12785322#post12785322
[11:25] <streulma> bloat: I lost the recovery partition of my pc, is it legally to reinstall with another dvd from Dell, same windows version
[11:25] <archyme> anonimo,  i have alot of lenovo's to play with but not any b series, sorry
[11:27] <cgtdk> streulma: ask Dell
[11:27] <SadAct> streulma all the disks are the same, the cd key is injected into mb at factory
[11:28] <varunendra> anonimo, basically, you have to download the latest stable backport module set from here : https://www.kernel.org/ then follow the same instructions to compile and install it.
[11:29] <anonimo> varunendra: If i'm not wrong, I tried to install the backport module from the package manager some times ago...
[11:30] <varunendra> anonimo, the ones from the repositories are not the latest
[11:32] <anonimo> varunendra: Right then, I'm tring to compile and install the latest compat module. Let's  see what happens :)
[11:33] <lemonsparrow> no one here who can help me ???
[11:33] <lemonsparrow> I am trying to install hadoop using the rpm but I get this error : http://pastebin.com/5aFRFcbh
[11:33] <varunendra> anonimo, one thing I can almost guarantee is that if you install the original release of 12.04 (not the latest 12.04.3), it will work nicely with this card. The problem began with kernel 3.5 I think. But you may face many dependency problems with other software with that version :(
[11:33] <bloat> whenever i read "compile" i get nervous
[11:34] <varunendra> bloat, until the hardware vendors become nicer with us, we are forced to use that dreaded word :)
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> lemonsparrow:   why are you using the rpm? no deb exists? cant use source?  theres no guarentees the rpm will ever work
[11:35] <BluesKaj_> lemonsparrow.` rpm files don't work in ubuntu
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> !alien
[11:35] <lemonsparrow> BluesKaj_: so what to do to install hadoop ?
[11:35] <lemonsparrow> BluesKaj_: "rpm files don't work in ubuntu" u sure ?
[11:35] <lemonsparrow> BluesKaj_: sudo rmp -i file.rpm
[11:36] <BluesKaj_> absolutely sure
[11:36] <lemonsparrow> BluesKaj_: so what to do now to install hadoop ?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> lemonsparrow:  why would you think they would work?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> lemonsparrow:  Find a .deb or a ppa. or use source
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> !find hadoop
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> No idea what hadoop even is here.. tell us what it is.
[11:37] <lemonsparrow> http://www.michael-noll.com/tutorials/running-hadoop-on-ubuntu-linux-single-node-cluster/
[11:37] <BluesKaj_> they have tp be converted to .deb files or some file extn that ubuntu can handle. lemonsparrow
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> and converting a rpm to deb is a Frankenstein  type of idea. ;)  (its close to halloween)
[11:38] <lemonsparrow> BluesKaj_: Dr_Willis is that link good enough to follow ? pls tell me
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> lemonsparrow:  i cant read links.. im on a console only raspberry pi. and ive no idea what hadloop or a 'single node cluster' is
[11:40] <lemonsparrow> Dr_Willis: :)
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> if the guide suggests converting a RPM to a DEB. well. dont be suprised if it fails.
[11:40] <BluesKaj_> Dr_Willis. Hadoop is a framework written in Java for running applications on large clusters of commodity hardware and incorporates features similar to those of the Google File System (GFS) and of the MapReduce computing paradigm
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> if that guide dosent mentoon converting a RPM to DEB..  then  well.. we have to wonder why you are trying to use the RPM. ;)
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj_:  but does it work on my RaspberryPi? ;)
[11:42] <andry> bla test
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> been downsizeing my collection of PC's in more ways then one.
[11:42] <jony> hi all
[11:42] <BluesKaj_> Dr_Willis. dunno , seems hardly relevant :)
[11:45] <ggherdov> hello. I created a user with `sudo useradd -d /home/foo -m foo`, but now if I log as 'foo' and do `ls`, I have "ls: reading directory .: Input/output error". What is going on?
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> ggherdov:  any time ive seen input/output error - its been due to filesystem curruption, or disk failing
[11:49] <ben-pol> hi, i just installed ubuntu with debootstrap onto my laptop which is using an external monitor because its screen has died. when i boot into it no output is displayed onto the monitor but i can blindly type commands into the console. Does anyone know how to see the console from the external monitor before i launch xorg?
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> ggherdov:  check 'dmesg' output to see if any errors aer showing up
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> ben-pol:  ive had laptops that i could use the fn-monitor-toggle keys to switch the external on
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> ben-pol:  also had other laptops that would auto switch to external if one was connected. (aparently yours dosent do that) ;)
[11:51] <ggherdov> Dr_Willis: thanks, will check.
[11:51] <ben-pol> Dr_Willis: i have no problems using the ext monitor when booting into other linux distros on this laptop, even when i debootstrapped debian. maybe i am missing a package thats in the core packages on other distros but not in ubuntu?
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> ben-pol:  never used debootstrap so no idea. Ubuntu does use the framebuffer stuff by default. perhaps you need to boot into text mode and see wht happens
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> !text
[11:55] <ben-pol> my monitor doesnt show grub menu either. will setting it in /boot/grub/grub.cfg work?
[11:56] <njsg> try hitting any key as soon as it boots, at leat with grub (not grub-2) this will make grub stop the autoloading
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> ben-pol:  that sounds like grub is useing some res/mode that your monitor cant handle.
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> unless grub is hidden - press and HOLD shift as it boots to make it appear.
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> there are options in /etc/default/grub to make it NOT be hidden, and to use a plain text based grub menu
[11:57] <ben-pol> well it wont show the bios either. the screen is usually blank until i blindly boot into an OS
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> id try kicking grub into a text mode menu, and then see if you can  perhaps disable the framebuffer stuff. -  that might be whats goofing things up.
[11:58] <njsg> ben-pol: does the card havem ore than one output?
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> its possible that the other disrtos are not using the framebuffer.
[11:58] <njsg> ben-pol: or does the computer have more than one card?
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> night all
[11:59] <raspberryberet> night
[11:59] <ben-pol> njsg: i havent disabled the laptop screen, im not sure how to do that
[12:00] <njsg> ben-pol: it could be that you have two outputs and the BIOS is using the wrong one
[12:00] <njsg> ben-pol: is the laptop screen working?
[12:00] <ben-pol> nah its broken
[12:00] <njsg> that's probably it, the laptop is showing up grub on the laptop screen
[12:00] <njsg> if you boot with both displays it still does not show the BIOS or POST on both?
[12:01] <njsg> sigh. crappy firmware. as of 1999, there were laptops that were capable of doing that
[12:01] <ben-pol> njsg: the ext monitor only shows things when i boot into an OS
[12:01] <njsg> ben-pol: yeah, the BIOS is considering the laptop display the main one, and so does GRUB, I guess; unless GRUB2 has some code to handle multi-head
[12:02] <njsg> at least GRUB (1) just boots into the same device as the BIOS, and uses the selected VESA mode
[12:02] <njsg> what did you need the grub commandline for?
[12:04] <sunny_le> in root aren't services are restart or we can start the job ?
[12:04] <sunny_le> when doing /etc/init.d/ssh start it says starting openBSD secure shell server sshd
[12:05] <ben-pol> njsg: the main problem is im trying to get my ext monitor to work when i boot into ubuntu which i installed with debootstrap and has minimal packages
[12:05] <sunny_le> but when check it with /etc/init.d/ssh status it says sshd is not running.
[12:05] <njsg> ben-pol: does the laptop keyboard have any key to switch between laptop / laptop + external / external?
[12:05] <njsg> ben-pol: try using that
[12:06] <njsg> ben-pol: but if you say the screen works when it boots... is it with other distro?
[12:06] <njsg> ben-pol: that's weird, if they are exposed as multiple outputs, linux should get them both and output to both by default
[12:07] <ben-pol> njsg: i installed debian the exact same way which worked perfectly
[12:13] <njsg> ben-pol: do you know the kernel versions?
[12:13] <njsg> ... also, which card is this we're talking about?
[12:23] <andry> i wonder UXA as accelmethod for intel hd 4xxx works smoother than SNA :/
[12:23] <andry> +why
[12:24] <andry> or at least for 4600
[12:24] <codekK> Hi all, after having problems with suspend on Ubuntu 13.04 i install ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and after some tests i get this: If the AC power is connected and i get laptop on Suspend/Hibernate the laptop need disconnect the AC and push power button for get back again (with hibernate i get last state, no with suspend) and if im using battery the suspend/hibernate works well... What i can do? :S
[12:24] <codekK> lolu: are u here?
[12:25] <Guest37454> hai
[12:26] <ranma42_> on ubuntu 13.10 (beta) I noticed a weird behavior of combining diacritics (in particular, it looks like gedit and libreoffice are not consistent in drawing them). is this the right place to ask for help in investigating which one is wrong and why?
[12:27] <cgtdk> !rootirc
[12:27] <cgtdk> ranma42_: #ubuntu+1
[12:28] <codekK> Hi all, after having problems with suspend on Ubuntu 13.04 i install ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and after some tests i get this: If the AC power is connected and i get laptop on Suspend/Hibernate the laptop need disconnect the AC and push power button for get back again (with hibernate i get last state, no with suspend) and if im using battery the suspend/hibernate works well... What i can do? :S  some suggçestions?
[12:28] <ranma42_> cgtdk: thank you :)
[12:31] <cfhowlett> codekK, so are you on 12.04 or 13.04
[12:31] <codekK> now on 12.04
[12:31] <codekK> on 13.04 i get problems with ac and with battery with suspend
[12:31] <codekK> now only get problems with AC power
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !saucy|ranma42_,
[12:33] <O-plus> hi
[12:34] <cfhowlett> greetings
[12:34] <O-plus> hello
[12:38] <linuxnewbie> hello, i'm trying to configure my two isp on the PC (http://pastebin.com/tzWFHzCx)  ..the problem is that i can't ssh from internal network anymore ...and i can't access xx.yy.zz.55 ...can someone help me?
[12:40] <doggardly> What do people recommend for a music player that doesn't choke on 500GB+ music?
[12:41] <doggardly> Can Totem do this now? Banshee? Xnoise? Clementine?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> doggardly, dude!
[12:41] <doggardly> mpd?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> doggardly, I'd think xbmc project - media server
[12:41] <wokko7> hello just a test :)
[12:41] <doggardly> XBMC is a bit heavyweight
[12:41] <cfhowlett> !test|wokko7,
[12:42] <doggardly> I used MPD but I kinda want a more gui centric one
[12:42] <doggardly> also mpd has terrible support for album artists
[12:42] <doggardly> the play button on rythmbox is ludicrously big
[12:44] <cgtdk> doggardly: Clementine perhaps
[12:44] <doggardly> Trying that now
[12:44] <cgtdk> I don't have experience with such large libraries though
[12:44] <cgtdk> but it's nice
[12:45] <doggardly> I keep getting weird glitch/clicking noises  through my speakers.
[12:45] <cgtdk> Are you sure that's your media player's fault?
[12:45] <hitsujiTMO> doggardly i get that too, prob sound drivers
[12:46] <doggardly> Ooh
[12:46] <doggardly> someone mention me
[12:46] <cgtdk> doggardly:
[12:46] <doggardly> yes
[12:46] <doggardly> it's the webchat
[12:46] <doggardly> hahaha
[12:46] <cgtdk> :-)
[12:55] <xevil> are some of the repositories down for some reason?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> xevil, mirrors sometimes go down ... maintenance and such.  switch to a new local mirror and test
[12:58] <eer> Does anybody know what the program kscreen is for? apt-get upgrade won't install it. It's been there for weeks now after apt-get update
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !kscreen
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !info kscreen|eer
[13:02] <zorg> How do I keep Ubuntu Xchat from going to this channel everytime I start Xchat. Thanks
[13:02] <zorg> ?
[13:03] <cfhowlett> zorg, it's obeying your settings.
[13:04] <zorg> it installs this way
[13:05] <cfhowlett> zorg, go to your /home.  display .hidden folders (alt-h) command on my laptop.  delete .xchat2 folder.  restart and reconfigure xchat
[13:06] <zorg> sounds good ...thanks
[13:06] <cfhowlett> zorg best of luck
[13:06] <philinux> eer: would help if you could pastebin the errors from upgrade
[13:08] <philinux> cfhowlett: he could have just edited his setting
[13:09] <user_> I deleted the hidden directory
[13:09] <user_> I am back
[13:09] <eer> philinux, there are no errors
[13:09] <user_> Its like they compiled it into the package
[13:09] <cfhowlett> philinux, once that darn autologin to a network is set, I've never found the toggle to reset it without having to kill the configuration file.  please advise if I'm wrong
[13:09] <krux> just go to network list
[13:10] <krux> and uncheck autoconnect
[13:10] <krux> and look for the channel and remove it
[13:10] <philinux> user_: top left xchat > Network list > edit
[13:10] <cfhowlett> philinux, ah, you meant kill the auto login to #channel.  D'oh!  You're absolutely right!
[13:10] <cfhowlett> remove from favorites!
[13:10] <cfhowlett> long day, no coffee ... mea culpa
[13:10] <philinux> ^^^ yip
[13:11] <philinux> lol
[13:11] <philinux> eer: apt-cache policy kscreen
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> apt-cache pour coffee
[13:13] <philinux> eer: kscreen is for KDE. The KDE multiple monitor support is trying be as smart as possible adapting the behavior of it to each use case making the configuration of monitors as simple as plugging them to your computer
[13:13] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, I think that's " sudo dispense caffeinated-beverage
[13:14] <eer> philinux, http://pastebin.com/UEvn1DrA
[13:16] <philinux> eer: what does this give from a terminal sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:16] <rosemary> Good day all. This is sort of embarrassing.  I am coming to you from a lubuntu desktop and cant find the blasted brightness control.
[13:18] <rosemary> BluesKaj_, a sight for sore eyes.  It has been a while.
[13:18] <philinux> eer: you may need to use dist-upgrade but update manager should install the newer version. Are you running ubuntu or kubuntu or both?
[13:19] <repudiate> Does anyone in here speak Spanish fluently?
[13:19] <eer> kubuntu but ubuntu is also installed
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !es|repudiate,
[13:19] <BluesKaj_> hi rosemary , how goes it ?
[13:19] <rosemary> !es
[13:19] <cfhowlett> eer, the package you asked about is a kde/kubuntu package ...
[13:20] <rosemary> BluesKaj_, it goes fine. I cant seem to find the brightness control on lubuntu at moment.
[13:20] <philinux> eer: what version of those are you running
[13:20] <dveim> hello
[13:20] <BluesKaj_> rosemary. sorry , I have no clue :(
[13:21] <dveim> i have install a plugin for gedit that add a terminal in the bottom
[13:21] <dveim> but the color theme is white
[13:21] <dveim> so i can not see anything. How can i change it?
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> rosemary: System Settings -> Brightness & Lock
[13:22] <charpandnl> hi guys :)
[13:22] <hitsujiTMO> if its not there then no idea
[13:22] <cfhowlett> charpandnl, greetings
[13:22] <natalia> night
[13:22] <charpandnl> how can I, running 13.10, downgrade my php to 5.4?
[13:23] <rosemary> hitsujiTMO,  thanks for the suggestion but I don't seem to have those options.
[13:23] <repudiate> cfhowlett: I don't speak Spanish so I have no idea what that meant.
[13:23] <hitsujiTMO> charpandnl: #ubuntu+1
[13:23] <charpandnl> thnx
[13:23] <cfhowlett> repudiate, I ... .... .... thought you wanted some espanol assistance.
[13:23] <Moonlightning> Hello. I have a machine running Ubuntu Server on an encrypted LVM, with an encrypted swap partition. When I boot, I get a message that "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/<hostname>-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present." That stays up for twenty seconds or so, then I get the normal login prompt. Immediately after I log in, `swapon -s` shows that swap is okay.
[13:24] <Moonlightning> /etc/crypttab has no mention of <hostname>-swap_1, only cryptswap1. /etc/fstab has (otherwise) identical lines for both.
[13:24] <eer> philinux, dist-upgrade doesn't install it either. I tried this a number of times already
[13:25] <eer> cfhowlett, http://pastebin.com/UEvn1DrA
[13:25] <hitsujiTMO> rosemary whats the output of: xrandr
[13:25] <philinux> eer: try removing it. first  sudo apt-get remove kscreen
[13:26] <philinux> eer: are there no errors or messages in terminal. It must report something if it cant install the latest version
[13:26] <cfhowlett> eer, LOVE to look at your paste, but, once again, the great Chinese firewall is blocking pastebin.
[13:26] <Moonlightning> #flood :)
[13:27] <philinux> cfhowlett: fyi. kscreen:  Installed: 0.0.92-0ubuntu0.2  Candidate: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04.1
[13:29] <hitsujiTMO> rosemary: can you open up the terminal and run: xrandr
[13:30] <hitsujiTMO> rosemary: should be able to set brightness by terminal with it
[13:30] <Moonlightning> …wait. `swapon -s` gives a size of 2428924.
[13:30] <Moonlightning> If that's in bytes, then my swap space is…two megabytes?
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> thats kilobytes Moonlightning
[13:31] <Moonlightning> Okay, good. XD
[13:31] <cfhowlett> philinux, current raring package shows kscreen at 0.0.81 ... are we talking about 13.10 or something?
[13:32] <faugusztin> rosemary: do you have any subfolders in /sys/class/backlight/ ?
[13:32] <Moonlightning> Given that cryptswap1 seems to be working fine on its own, can I just get rid of -swap_1?
[13:32] <rosemary> going to try that hitsujiTMO  thanks
[13:33] <hitsujiTMO> rosemary: shoud be in the region of: xrandr --output <DISPLAY> --brightness <level 0 - 1>
[13:34] <Moonlightning> Also: cryptswap1 uses /dev/random as its keyfile. Isn't that somewhat insecure?
[13:34] <Moonlightning> /dev/urandom *
[13:35] <Moonlightning> As opposed to /dev/random.
[13:35] <philinux> cfhowlett: thats why I've asked what version he's running as 1.0.1 is my candidate in 13.10
[13:35] <cfhowlett> philinux, little details matter.
[13:35] <distsys> Hi Ubuntu Community :)
[13:36] <distsys> I am about purshasing an ASUS X201E netbook
[13:36] <distsys> I wonder if it suites to use it along with Ubuntu or any other linux distor
[13:36] <philinux> eer: well then which versions of ubuntu and kubuntu are you running or have you some ppa's installed to give you saucy's kscreen
[13:36] <distsys> Any suggestion please ?
[13:37] <Moonlightning> distsys: if you're asking about distros in general and not Ubuntu specifically, you may want ##linux instead
[13:38] <rosemary> hitsujiTMO, i must be doing something wrong.
[13:38] <rosemary> hitsujiTMO, thanks for trying have to go  wil come back later
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> what output are you getting for?: xrandr
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> distsys: i'm using an x202e right now with ubuntu ... rather sweet ... what exact model are you going for ... the specs vary widely
[13:51] <foofoobar_> Hi. I'm trying to get virtualbox running. When running sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-dkms I get an error: http://pastebin.com/TpBhgFfg
[13:52] <foofoobar_> the compiling fails. Someone knows why?
[13:54] <jrib> foofoobar_: try again with LC_ALL=C
[13:55] <jrib> foofoobar_: (this should give you english error messages)
[13:55] <drmagoo> foofoobar_, make sure you have "build-essential" installed
[13:57] <foofoobar_> jrd0, LC_ALL=C sudo dpkg... is what I tried, errors still in german
[13:57] <foofoobar_> drmagoo, build-essential is installed
[14:00] <drmagoo> foofoobar_, are you trying to compile the source yourself ? Why dont you use the precompiled package ?
[14:00] <foofoobar_> drmagoo, I'm not
[14:00] <foofoobar_> I need to load the vboxdrv
[14:01] <foofoobar_> but the vboxdrv is not build, so I need to do it with dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-dkms
[14:01] <foofoobar_> Which fails
[14:01] <foofoobar_> I think its this bug: http://siduction.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=3097
[14:02] <boern> hey guys, i have a question.. i have a SSD and a HDD.. on the SSD i have my OS - ubuntu 13.04 -  installed.. everytime i start my PC i have to mount my HDD.. how can i automatically mount my HDD?
[14:02] <foofoobar_> boern, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> boern add entries to /etc/fstab
[14:04] <boern> what exactly should i add??
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> that is the exact command you use to mount the drive?
[14:04] <boern> i just klick on the drive symbol on the unity lauchner..^^
[14:04] <boern> click*
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> ahh
[14:05] <boern> i dont use any command
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> ok, what filesystem is the drive?
[14:05] <boern> ext4
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> ok better yet
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> after you've mounted it can you open the terminal and run: mount
[14:06] <hitsujiTMO> just paste the output
[14:06] <drmagoo> foofoobar_, have you read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/138079/cannot-load-vboxdrv-module-in-12-04-and-3-2-0-23-realtime
[14:06] <boern> http://pastebin.com/Pe0wTZ5F
[14:07] <boern> would be very convenient if it would mount automatically ^^
[14:07] <boern> so that i dont have to click it every time^^
[14:07] <drmagoo> foofoobar_, or this http://askubuntu.com/questions/219360/virtualbox-on-ubuntu-12-04-and-3-5-kernel-compilation-problem
[14:08] <hitsujiTMO> boern add the line:
[14:08] <hitsujiTMO> /dev/sdb1 /media/boern/Data ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2 0 0
[14:08] <luc4> Hello! I'm trying to boot an old system, but it seems to be failing.Booting result in initramfs prompt in busybox. Everywhere I look the advice is to use a live distro, but I don't have a CD rom here and booting from usb is not an option. Any idea on how to fix?
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> actually wait boern
[14:09] <boern> this will auto mount?
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> mkdir /mnt/data
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> then add the line:
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> /dev/sdb1 /mnt/data ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2 0 0
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> yes that will mount at boot
[14:10] <boern> not in FSTAB?
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> in /etc/fstab
[14:10] <boern> ok thx
[14:10] <ggherdov> hello. On my Linux Ubuntu-server, for a specific user (other users are fine) I get a "Input/output error" when she does `ls`. Here the relevant part of syslog http://bpaste.net/show/QYyRyZEbbL7vTHP9Z8d9/ . (I asked this a few hours ago, now I have some syslogs to show).
[14:10] <ggherdov> Any clue on what is going on?
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> all your files will be in /mnt/data then
[14:11] <boern> my HDD is in /media/boern
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> /media is usually used for dynamically mounted drives ...
[14:12] <setichat> Hola perdonar, soy bastante torpecillo y me gustaría instalar Ubuntu 12.04 me he descargado la imagen y para crear el USB booteable uso en pendrive de 1gb¿el tamaño es suficiente? gracias trabajo desde OpenSuse
[14:12] <boern> ok
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> !es | setichat
[14:12] <boern> ok thx i will try
[14:12] <boern> !
[14:12] <setichat> ubottu, thanks
[14:13] <hitsujiTMO> once you add it unmount it from media and then run: mount -a
[14:14] <kostkon> hitsujiTMO, umount
[14:14] <boern> i did "mkdir /mnt/data" and now "/dev/sdb1 /mnt/data ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2 0 0" at the and of FSTAB and then finished?
[14:14] <hitsujiTMO> no: mount -a      to remount /etc/fstab
[14:15] <ArielX_> hello all... How do I install windows 8 in my ubuntu 13.04
[14:15] <yeats> !virtualbox | ArielX_
[14:15] <ArielX_> but on another partition
[14:15] <kostkon> ArielX_, in a vm?
[14:15] <yeats> !dualboot | ArielX_
[14:15] <hitsujiTMO> boern: yup, just unmount the drive from and run: mount -a
[14:16] <yeats> ArielX_: personally, I'd go the VM route if you have the resources
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> ggherdov is that a kimsufi box?
[14:17] <boern> "In order to regain the free space on this volume the trash must be emptied. All trashed items on the volume will be permanently lost."???
[14:17] <boern> this comes when i unmount
[14:17] <ArielX_> understood.. but dont want to... was using dual booting windows and ubuntu but I install Mac OS X theme in windowws 8 and unisntalled now I cant see my login page on windows so I have to reinstall from ubuntu but how
[14:18] <daixtr> is it possible to install ubuntu minimally.. ie, such as base install is shell and kernel, and coreutils.. then gradually add more packages on your way up?
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> boern how are you unmounting it?
[14:18] <yeats> ArielX_: probably need to ask in ##windows
[14:18] <Robby_> I hope you can help me! At the end of installation (VirtualBox on  OS X 10.7.4) a error message appears telling me there was a mistake and it was not possible to install Ubuntu...
[14:19] <hitsujiTMO> daixtr: install minimal unbuntu system: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:19] <yeats> Robby_: what was the error?
[14:19] <Robby_> It's in German as I selected German as my language...
[14:20] <luc4> Anyone who knows whether it is possible to have network at the initramfs prompt?
[14:20] <Robby_> But is says something like there was a error that can not be solved...
[14:20] <yeats> Robby_: have you tried #ubuntu-de?
[14:20] <MonkeyDu1t> Robby_  the exact error message can be useful
[14:20] <swaagie> meh teamviewer not installing on 13.10 yet
[14:20] <Robby_> Okay, I will change to the channel! Thanks!
[14:20] <ggherdov> what is a tool to check the integrity of a hard disk drive ?
[14:21] <ArielX_> yeats I just want to reinstall windows 8 completely again my my formal partition .. so how do I install windows 8 from ubuntu
[14:23] <MonkeyDu1t> ArielX_  insert CD, reboot PC, install windows... ubuntu is not needed to install windows
[14:23] <ArielX_> my cd rom drive is not good. hence I can only install via usb but how
[14:23] <ArielX_> tried unebootin
[14:24] <ArielX_> no luck tried winusb same
[14:24] <chartley> hello
[14:24] <MonkeyDu1t> ArielX_  better inform in ##windows how to install windows, i guess
[14:24] <chartley> problem installing ubuntu onto win 7 32 virtualbox
[14:24] <sunny_le> is it possible to run graphical applications like firefox from chroot ?
[14:25] <Moonlightning> Hmm. Is it possible to install another operating system literally /from Ubuntu/?
[14:25] <chartley> initializes bios, then shows purple bar across top of vb screen then fades to black
[14:25] <ArielX_> monkeydult better off read my notes before advising concerning joining #windows
[14:25] <chartley> no install script
[14:26] <Frank81> any infos about opening big files in linux with ssh?
[14:26] <Moonlightning> I would think it would, given that *nix can do so much without rebooting.
[14:26] <chartley> problem installing ubuntu onto win 7 32 virtualbox initializes bios, then shows purple bar across top of vb screen then fades to black no install script
[14:26] <Frank81> nano and vi get killed
[14:27] <ArielX_> cd rom bad... if good no need to bother you guys... will only install via usb but no ubuntu/linux usb creator seems to work for the install e.g. unebootin/winusb
[14:27] <MonkeyDu1t> ArielX_  i'm not sure if windows can be installed to/from usb, better inform in ##windows
[14:29] <chartley> anyone familiar with this issue? i successfully installed/ran ubuntu on mac. unable to install linux ubuntu on windows. (problem installing ubuntu onto win 7 32 virtualbox initializes bios, then shows purple bar across top of vb screen then fades to black no install script)
[14:30] <ArielX_> lol... okies.. o yes windows can bro
[14:33] <faugusztin> chartley: is the ISO image 32-bit too ?
[14:33] <chartley> yes
[14:34] <faugusztin> chartley: did you tried using text based installer (network installer) ?
[14:37] <chartley> which architecture for win7 32? powerpc?
[14:39] <Perchik> hi
[14:39] <lolu> chartley: what version of vbox are you on
[14:39] <chartley> 4 newest
[14:40] <zohan> clear
[14:40] <lolu> chartley: if its > 4.1.18, it should work
[14:41] <dumbledork> it appears my unity lenses are broken
[14:41] <chartley> yes. i know it should. it worked for me with mac. im unsure what the problem is.
[14:41] <dumbledork> I can't searcha pps any more
[14:41] <dumbledork> what do I do
[14:41] <bekks> chartley: use the nomodeset boot parameter.
[14:41] <dumbledork> unity-lens-applications is already the newest version.
[14:45] <mapps> why do some people say do gzip and then tar why not just do tar -zxvf file.tar.gz?
[14:46] <bekks> mapps: Because not everyone in this world uses a GNU implementation of tar.
[14:46] <mapps> aha
[14:46] <mapps> thanks
[14:49] <dumbledork> guys I can't launch apps
[14:49] <dumbledork> help
[14:49] <zohan> guys
[14:49] <zohan> good night
[14:51] <gordonjcp> !help | dumbledork
[14:52] <dougiel> !patience
[14:53] <Guest44769> hello all
[14:54] <Guest44769> Having trouble with the Nvidia Proprietary Driver on the latest updates to 12.04
[14:54] <zohan> hi
[14:54] <dougiel> dont you need to reinstall nvidia drivers after a kernel update?
[14:55] <dumbledork> sorted it
[14:55] <Guest44769> It seems that after blacklisting Nouveau and installing the Nvidia driver, that unity is not working. Has anyone else had issues with Unity after installing the Nvidia driver?
[14:55] <Guest44769> BTW,  installed the driver directly from Nvidia
[14:56] <zohan> do you remember about linus torvald's video and nvidia ????
[14:59] <MonkeyDu1t> zohan  did you have a ubuntu support question?
[15:00] <zohan> yes
[15:00] <Guest44769> I would like assistance correcting issues with Unity that may be related to installing the Nvidia Proprietary driver. I don't understand how things broke at this point
[15:00] <zohan> MonkeyDu1t,  i need a instruction about nvidia instalation
[15:00] <zohan> it's a nvidia geforce 610 m
[15:01] <zohan> and my OS is ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:01] <Guest44769> Nvidia was working fine and so was unity prior to install the most recent updates within 12.04
[15:02] <Guest44769> After updating Ubuntu, the linux kernel was again using the Nouveau driver and Nvidia was removed completely. I blacklisted Nouveau and updated initramfs and installed the Prop driver which is running in the Kernel, however, Unity doesn't seem to be loading
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> Guest44769: can you run: dpkg --get-selected    and paste the output
[15:06] <Ari-Yang> Guest44769: what kernel are you using?
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> Guest44769: sorry: dpkg --get-selections
[15:06] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0 - will do
[15:07] <Ari-Yang> Guest44769: and what is the output of uname -r
[15:08] <Guest44769> actually one small issue - I'm on my Windows box now, and my Ubuntu box is seperate.... Possible to pastebin the results?
[15:08] <Ari-Yang> Guest44769: what's the output of uname -r?
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:08] <Guest44769> Ari-Yang, yes I'll get that now
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> Guest44769: then: dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[15:09] <Guest44769> Ari-Yang - 3.2.0-54-generic
[15:11] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, paste.ubuntu.com/6227135/
[15:12] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, rather  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6227135/
[15:13] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, I should also note that I dropped to tty level 1 or ctrl + alt + 1
[15:13] <Guest44769> I did that on purpose
[15:15] <Guest44769> Btw, if I believe the problem is more that Unity is not loading as apposed to an issue with the video driver, what should I do to determine that.
[15:15] <pfifo> I noticed that my apache's virtual host configuration is not working as expected, I havent the slighetst idea whats going wrong here, Ive seen 2 documents describing the same details of how to set this up in ubuntu, and from reading the docs provided by apache them self, every thing should be in order... however, bothe my domains and my ip address are still pointing to the default site.
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> did you just update 2.6 to 3.2?
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> unity relies on compiz with uses 3d acceleration
[15:16] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, I can't be certain. The kernel would have only been updated if included in the updates. would not have attempted myself
[15:17] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, aha, I probably then broke it myself when adjusting compiz-config settings?
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> possibly
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> what did you adjust in compiz?
[15:18] <Guest44769> I activated the cube, and checked dbus
[15:19] <Guest44769> not much else I can think of, however, I noticed that the cube was only displaying 2 workspaces rather than 4
[15:19] <Guest44769> also of note, compiz crashed twice... meh
[15:21] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, is my real issue with Unity and Commpiz?
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> not sure, could still be graphics
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> you able to get glxgears running and verified your graphics is running ok?
[15:23] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, no....let me try getting back to the GUI... Gnome in this case
[15:25] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, what command should I run to get back into Gnome if X is already running
[15:25] <djp5592> Hey, i'm looking for some help on whitelisting external media (USB Flash drives) using udev rules.  Plan is when it's plugged in, it will check the serial against the udev rule, and if it matches, it's good to go, and if not, it runs a script.
[15:26] <pfifo> I noticed that my apache's virtual host configuration is not working as expected, I havent the slighetst idea whats going wrong here, Ive seen 2 documents describing the same details of how to set this up in ubuntu, and from reading the docs provided by apache them self, every thing should be in order... however, bothe my domains and my ip address are still pointing to the default site.
[15:27] <Walex2> djp5592: just read the docs...
[15:27] <Walex2> pfifo: that's not the right way of thinking as in "still pointing to the default  site.
[15:28] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, rebooted and at the Gnome Desktop, with no tool bar or unity present. What should I do to attempt troubleshooting?
[15:28] <djp5592> i have Walex2, but i'm running into some errors now so i'm looking for some other help
[15:28] <Walex2> pfifo: do you understand the difference between name based and IP based vhosts?
[15:29] <Walex2> djp5592: but it is rather unlikely to find here someone who just knows a topic as narrow as writing 'udev' scripts
[15:29] <Walex2> djp5592:  you may get lucky...
[15:29] <Walex2> djp5592: also note that you are asking for help on doing something rather than fixing a problem.
[15:30] <djp5592> Walex2: I understand all of this, i'm just trying to exhaust all my options
[15:30] <Walex2> djp5592: then write here what specifically does not work in your current attempt, and perhaps someone will have a look.
[15:30] <Guest44769> How can I load unity/gnome if all I have is my desktop icons?
[15:30] <Walex2> Guest44769: ALT-F2?
[15:30] <lolu> djp5592: what you got till now
[15:30] <njsg> Walex2: the problem with udev scripts is that more than half of the time, you'll inevitably encounter people who are like "why do you want to change the behavior!?=!?!?!?!??!ONE The defaults are enough!"
[15:31] <njsg> Walex2: the syntax has changed over the times, so some examples you can find on the internet are not up-to-date
[15:31] <Guest44769> Walex2, the combo does nothing
[15:31] <Walex2> Guest44769: or switch to a console, login and then 'env DISPLAY=:0 unit' or whatever
[15:31] <djp5592> I have it so that it will generally work, it will notice when a non-whitelisted device is plugged in, but then it crashes instead of running the script, and then says that it has an error executing the script
[15:31] <Walex2> Guest44769: or switch to a console, login and then 'env DISPLAY=:0 unity' or whatever
[15:31] <pfifo> Walex2: yes, fully... I removed the ServerName directive from my apache.conf, I had added this when I first set everything up to get rid of the warning... Now everything is operting as expected for the virtual hosting... However this is troubling, how do I get rid of this warning?
[15:31] <njsg> djp5592: what are you trying to do?
[15:32] <djp5592> whitelist USB device serial numbres using udev, and confgure it to run a script if a non whitelisted device is plugged in
[15:32] <Walex2> pfifo: 'ServerName' works with both IP based and name based, so something is very wrong if you have to remove it
[15:32] <Guest44769> Walex2, how do I now get back to the Desktop from the console?
[15:33] <njsg> djp5592: as in, to restrict the flash media that can be used with your computer?
[15:33] <pfifo> Walex2: ok... so... what is wrong?
[15:33] <Walex2> Guest44769: CTRL-ALT-F7 or another one of the F-keys
[15:33] <njsg> Guest44769: ctrl+alt+f7
[15:33] <djp5592> exactly njsg
[15:33] <Walex2> pfifo: that requires psychic powers from a distance
[15:33] <njsg> Guest44769: ctrl+alt+fX switches to virtual terminal number X, X-Windows usually runs on 7
[15:33] <Guest44769> Walex2, still no unity
[15:34] <njsg> Guest44769: does the terminal when you ran "unity" show any error?
[15:34] <pfifo> Walex2: do it to it... what do you need?
[15:34] <Guest44769> njsg, maybe, let me try again
[15:34] <Walex2> Guest44769: then do the same again with 'env DISPLAY=:0 xterm', go back to the GUI and then try various things in the newly existing terminal console
[15:34] <njsg> djp5592: hmm, what happens when it does not work (when it does not trigger the script for a non-whitelisted device)
[15:34] <njsg> Guest44769: error messages can be quite helpful for some things
[15:34] <Walex2> pfifo: you haven't sai what does not work, and given no details at all.
[15:35] <djp5592> it yells.  a lot.  keeps trying to run the script and just gives me errors saying udev can't run it
[15:35] <Guest44769> njsg, apparently, a number of paths aren't registered....
[15:35] <Guest44769> Pastebinit?
[15:35] <lolu> pfifo: what warning/error do you get. Are there other virtualhosts enabled etc would be helpful
[15:36] <ThoughProcess> yo
[15:37] <ThoughProcess> ya
[15:37] <cgtdk> ow
[15:37] <ThoughProcess> good times tinite
[15:37] <ThoughProcess> you see me, i c U
[15:37] <pfifo> Walex2: I currently have apache installed on my precise server, I am trying to set up name based virtual hosting, when I enabled the new site, everything worked as expected, however when i start apache it gives this warning 'apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 66.172.11.150 for ServerName' How do I get rid of it?
[15:38] <Walex2> pfifo: djp5592: both of you seem to misunderstand how tog et help in IRC. IRC is a low bandwidth, high latency messaging system, with volunteer helpers. It is not very suitable if you expect someone to stand over your shoulders and explain how to do things. It is more suitable to fix specific issues that are fairly common.
[15:38] <wylde> djp5592: does udev have exec rights on the script? Have you tried chown'ing it? IS the script chmod +x'd?
[15:38] <ThoughProcess> where is Automatic?
[15:38] <Guest44769> njsg, can you provide some insight into what might be causing the unregistered paths, and how to register them?
[15:38] <djp5592> Walex2: i know full well how it works, but i dont have many options left, so i'm trying
[15:39] <ThoughProcess> i tried uBuntu but had connect issues!
[15:39] <djp5592> wylde: it's chmod'd, but it actually may be owned by root.  should i chown it to the regular user or to someone specific
[15:39] <Walex2> pfifo: having a look
[15:39] <ThoughProcess> had to get a seperat installed packet to get it WorkinG
[15:39] <Guest44769> hmm, looks like I was also a bit mistaken in that, the output states it was attempting to unregister some paths
[15:39] <ThoughProcess> could not stand iT!
[15:39] <ThoughProcess> want a windows 8.1 computer
[15:39] <ThoughProcess> Ibuypower Revolt
[15:40] <ThoughProcess> got a windows 7 computer
[15:40] <wylde> djp5592: I'm just wondering if your issues aren't permissions related based on the one comment you made about udev not being ab;e to run the script.
[15:40] <bekks> ThoughProcess: Whats your specific ubuntu support question?
[15:40] <djp5592> that's a fair option, i can give it a shot.  thanks
[15:40] <ThoughProcess> oh, my bad, Thank yoU
[15:40] <wylde> djp5592: Trying to come up with hints on where to look.
[15:40] <ThoughProcess> bekks
[15:40] <djp5592> yeah wylde, thats really what i need
[15:41] <ThoughProcess> can i just get online bekks, by running Ubuntu off a flash drive?
[15:41] <Guest44769> Would like some help getting unity running once again
[15:41] <ThoughProcess> "unity" right
[15:41] <Walex2> pfifo: The Apache2 dæmon tries to figure out a name for a vhost, for various reasons. One way it does it is by looking at DNS, and another by the 'ServerName' directive.
[15:41] <bekks> ThoughProcess: No. The medium Ubuntu is installed on is not releated to your requirements to get online.
[15:41] <wylde> djp5592: if you cat /etc/passwd do you see any user that looks specifically related to udev? Possibly udevd
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: is the server statically assigned an ip or dynaimically?
[15:41] <ThoughProcess> thnx bekks
[15:42] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: static, 66.172.11.150
[15:42] <Walex2> pfifo: the address you give resolves to a valid DNS entry, so rhe Apache2 server should be able to do the same.
[15:42] <Guest44769> confused, but sure
[15:42] <Walex2> pfifo: therefore it is likely that there is something wrong with the DNS setup on the server, outside Apache2.
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> edit your /etc/hosts    and add: 66.172.11.150 hostname fqdn
[15:42] <Walex2> pfifo: check the contents of '/etc/hosts' for example.
[15:43] <Guest44769> Could I remove unity using Apt-Get and re-install?
[15:43] <djp5592> wylde: there is not
[15:43] <Walex2> Guest44769: sure, but that is *very rarely* needed.
[15:43] <pfifo> Walex2: how can I figure out what name it thinks it has
[15:43] <Walex2> pfifo: it cannot find a name, but that address does map to a DNS entry.
[15:43] <njsg> Guest44769: pastebin, please
[15:44] <Guest44769> hang on all, I'm just dumping unity and re-installing
[15:44] <Walex2> pfifo: in any case using 'ServerName' is always valid, so if something stops working if you use it, *something else* is broken.
[15:45] <Guest44769> Well that certainly didn't fix it
[15:45] <pfifo> Walex2: I have forward and reverse dns all set up for pyp2p.org -> 66.172.11.150 and... hitsujiTMO putting an entry in the hosts file dosent seem like a fix, it seems like a kludge
[15:45] <Guest44769> njsg, what would you like me to pastebin? the command from earlier? it  failed to output to pastebin
[15:45] <Walex2> pfifo: putting that entry in the '/etc/hosts' is not necessary as your DNS is already setup right.
[15:46] <pfifo> Walex2: I think it sees the server name directive, and from then on points all traffic to the virtualhost matching that server name
[15:46] <wylde> djp5592:  I'm looking here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/quantal/en/man7/udev.7.html and here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/quantal/en/man8/udevd.8.html for hints.
[15:46] <Walex2> pfifo: what is possivble is that there is an inapproppriate line in '/etc/hosts'...
[15:46] <Walex2> pfifo: "sees the server name directive, and from then on points all traffic to  the virtualhost matching that server name
[15:46] <pfifo> Walex2: let me check
[15:46] <gulag2013> Is there a way to pin a downloads directory to the unity bar. I got the desktop unlocked, but the unity bar is still stubborn with adding folders?
[15:46] <Walex2> pfifo: "sees the server name directive, and from then on points all traffic to  the virtualhost matching that server name" is exactly what it should do, can you say why that would be wrong?
[15:46] <Guest44769> attmepting to pastebinit again
[15:47] <lolu> pfifo: jsut add ServerName localhost to your apache2.conf
[15:47] <pfifo> lolu: that breaks namebasedvirtual hosting
[15:48] <Walex2> pfifo: I have the suspicion that you want to have both an address based, and a name based virtual host on the same IP...
[15:48] <lolu> pfifo: no it does not. I've it running on my machine
[15:48] <pfifo> Walex2: no >I< dont, but it could be accidentally setup like that
[15:48] <Guest44769> njsg, when I attempt to pastebinit using the command env DISPLAY=:0 unity, the command stops half way with and I need to use Ctrl + C
[15:48] <pfifo> lolu: Ill try
[15:49] <Walex2> pfifo: you may need to read *carefully* http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/vhosts/details.html as the rules are sometimes subtle.
[15:50] <Guest44769> njsg, an example line of output is "Attempted to unregister a path (path[0] = org path = freedesktop) which isn't registered
[15:50] <djp5592> let me try throwing out my other idea, instead of using udev, i can write the serial number of the drive to a file, hash that file.  if a new device is plugged in, have it write the serial to a file and hash that, and if there is a mismatch, then run the script.  the issue would be making it see the new drive, then find it's serial, and do the hash and hash comparison
[15:51] <lolu> pfifo: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#servername
[15:51] <pfifo> lolu: ok that worked, but it also seems to be a kludge, now im guessing all my virtual hosts that use localhost are broken, but since I dont use localhost on my server, I cant test it. This could create a problem if I use php to fetch files from localhost though so Im still pretty worried
[15:52] <lolu> pfifo: ServerName directive has two purposes
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> Guest44769: normally it's a last resort but you could try reinstall the desktop or unity: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity    or    sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[15:53] <Guest44769> hitsujiTMO, attempting to re-sintall
[15:53] <lolu> pfifo: you can make entries to /etc/hosts and add a few hosts mapped to 127.0.0.1 to test things out. For  eg. add mysite 127.0.0.1 and use that as the servername for your vhost
[15:54] <kingplusplus> ssh -v -C -D 9100 root@IP please how do i automate this command to reconnect itself
[15:54] <Guest44769> this should be interesting
[15:54] <njsg> Guest44769: that sounds like dbus
[15:55] <njsg> Guest44769: I'm not used to dbus (all my machines don't use dbus) but it sounds like a message from dbus ("org path" and all that)
[15:55] <Guest44769> is DBUS even required?
[15:55] <njsg> Guest44769: I'd maybe guess that there's some problem with the dbus bus or X didn't start dbus as it should for unity
[15:56] <pfifo> lolu: this is a remote server, so Its much more complicated than that
[15:56] <Walex2> Guest44769: 'dbus' is pretty much central to almost everything most recent desktop environments do.
[15:56] <njsg> Guest44769: well, I think that the things ubuntu uses by default are very dbus-centric, I'd not be surprised if it failed without dbus, but I'm not certain
[15:56] <Guest44769> sounds like a likely candidate then
[15:56] <njsg> (that said, you *don't* need dbus to run a linux system)
[15:56] <lolu> pfifo: then you need domains pointing to that machine if you want to use name virtual hosting.
[15:57] <Guest44769> njsj, I like that train of thought because it seems like maybe unity broke when I enabled Dbus within Compiz-Config
[15:58] <Guest44769> does anybody know the exact name of the compiz-config package, or did I type it correctly?
[15:59] <Rory> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:59] <pfifo> lolu: I have 2 domains so far pointing to my server
[16:00] <njsg> Guest44769: it could also be that it does not require dbus, but if dbus is started in some way, it will require something more to work too; but I really doubt it does not require dbus
[16:00] <lolu> pfifo: that means you can have two name virtualhosts.
[16:00] <somsip> kingplusplus: use autossh
[16:00] <pfifo> Walex2: ok, im 99% by default, ubuntu installs apache in such a manner that it is ready for namebased virtual hosting.
[16:01] <Guest44769> njsg, when I first installed compizconfig-settings-manager Dbus wasn't enabled
[16:01] <lolu> pfifo: ubuntu *does* set up apache ready for namevirtualhosts. the warning u saw was absolutely harmless with no implications.
[16:02] <Walex2> pfifo: yes, because in 99% of cases that's all that is needed.
[16:03] <Guest44769> hmm, unity is still not working even after re-installing the ubuntu desktop
[16:04] <pfifo> lolu: so I guess I cave to choose betwee, getting the warning, or having broken vritual hosting?
[16:04] <lolu> pfifo: adding the ServerNAme in apache.conf does not break namevirtualhosts.
[16:05] <lolu> pfifo: if it does on your system, it must be the way vhsosts are set up
[16:05] <Walex2> Guest44769: try to start it entirely from scratch...
[16:06] <Guest44769> Walex2, please elaborate as it not intuitive to me
[16:06] <Walex2> Guest44769: which means: login to the console, type 'xinit /usr/bin/xterm -- :4' and then when you get a new X session with an 'xterm' window type just 'unity' as the command
[16:06] <mynameisnotdave> cd huggle
[16:07] <mynameisnotdave> oops lol#
[16:07] <Guest44769> ok, Walex2, from the desktop, I did Ctrl + Alt + 1 and logged into the terminal I've also stopped lightdm and now I'm going to follow your command
[16:07] <Guest44769> should that still work
[16:07] <Walex2> Guest44769: yes
[16:08] <Guest44769> um yea, so I got a very small xterm window and not able to type in it
[16:09] <pranav> which program to use to connect to remote desktop of ubuntu from windows ?
[16:09] <Walex2> Guest44769: that's very unlikley
[16:10] <compdoc> pranav, using which service?
[16:10] <compdoc> vnc?
[16:10] <Guest44769> unlikely but factual
[16:10] <Walex2> Guest44769: that also means that your X-windows setup is not good because the DPI setting is wrong.
[16:10] <pfifo> lolu: Walex2 ok I think I see whats happening here, my apache.conf's ServerName is pyp2p.org right. Now later on I have a specific virtual host section for pyp2p.org, that also has a ServerName set to pyp2p.org... so I guess that when I surf to pyp2p.org its matching the ServerName in the apache.conf first.
[16:11] <pranav> compdoc: thanks for it. i just wanted to login to my ubuntu server from windows
[16:11] <Guest44769> Walex2, what are my next steps?
[16:11] <Walex2> pfifo: note that the address you gave was for 'admin.pyp2p.org' not for 'pyp2p.org'.
[16:11] <compdoc> pranav, then vnc. As a client for win7, I like www.tightvnc.com
[16:11] <pranav> i mean not using putty. literally unity desktop
[16:11] <pranav> compdoc: Thanks :)
[16:11] <Walex2> pfifo: and of course it is pretty wrong to have two 'ServerName's which are the same.
[16:11] <compdoc> pranav, thats is you enable vino, the ubuntu desktop sharing
[16:11] <Walex2> Guest44769: blah! Wait a sec.
[16:12] <compdoc> *if you
[16:12] <pfifo> Walex2: yeah, to get the cool hostname on IRC
[16:12] <Walex2> Guest44769: kill your new X session, the one with the too-small 'xterm'.
[16:12] <Walex2> Guest44769: just go back to console 1 and kill the 'xinit'.
[16:13] <Walex2> Guest44769: do you have a more or less standard desktop or laptop monitor with a DPI of around 100?
[16:14] <pfifo> Walex2: so I guess Ill go with what lolu said and use localhost as my main servers configuration, even if I do setup some named virtual hosts using /etc/hosts and 127.0.0.1, everything will work as expected. Anyway, things are working as expected and I now know why there operating that way, my issue is solved. thanks
[16:15] <Walex2> pfifo: that sounds a bit of a bad idea, depending on what you really want to achieve.
[16:15] <Daeinar> reload
[16:15] <pfifo> Walex2: what do you mean?
[16:15] <Walex2> pfifo: read carefully about the 'NameVirtualHost' directive and its limitations...
[16:16] <pfifo> Walex2: im not going to just go reading something without a clear idea of what im looking for... What sounds like a bad idea?
[16:16] <gulag2013> Is there a way ot pin/lock a directory to the Unity bar?
[16:17] <Walex2> pfifo: yopu may want to do something rather different, which is to run two different Apache2 dæmon instances, one bound to 127.0.0.1 if you want to do development, and one bound to 66.172.11.150 if you want to do public serrvices.
[16:17] <Walex2> pfifo: not going to just go reading something without a clear idea of what im looking  for
[16:17] <subz3r0> does any1 know a good site which describes how the bash interprets things like . or ? and * etc..?
[16:17] <Guest44769> Walex2, not sure what you ment by standard.... I do have an Nvidia GT220 video card if that helps
[16:17] <Walex2> pfifo: "not going to just go reading something without a clear idea of what im looking for" is the manual for what you are trying to do. If you want to do a non-trivial config and you can;t spare the time to read the manual, you are in trouble.
[16:18] <Walex2> Guest44769: not the video card, the *monitor*. Ho many inches diagonal and how many pixels HxW?
[16:19] <Walex2> Guest44769: if your 'xterm' was too small, that means that the X server miscalculated the DotsPerInch
[16:19] <Guest44769> Walex2, diagnal is 22, not sure on the pixels
[16:19] <Walex2> Guest44769: almost surely 1920x1080...
[16:19] <pfifo> Walex2: I have read the documentation, several times over the years, and have a very idea how this works... so having read the docs, Im not seeing a problem with what I said, and I really really dont think having another read is going to make a problem pop up in my mind.
[16:20] <Guest44769> Walex2, How can I change that then from the terminal?
[16:20] <Walex2> pfifo: the questions you have asked show that you don't understand how Apache2 handles virtual hosts, and admittedly the fine points of that are rather subtle.
[16:20] <lolu> pfifo: adding the ServerNae directive to aoache.conf totally fixes your problem. All you need to read up is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#servername which will tell you that ServerName set in server level is used just to identify the server. You do not need to think much more.
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> Walex2: you dont need 2 instances of apache for 2 ips!
[16:21] <Walex2> hitsujiTMO: mo, but it makes some situations a lot easier.
[16:21] <lolu> pfifo: yes, just like hitsujiTMO told you do not need 2 apache instances at all.
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> it doesn't make things easier its a waste of reosurces
[16:22] <pfifo> Walex2: Im saying I understand it, your saying I dont. But yet you cant say what I dont understand?
[16:22] <Guest44769> how can I change my resolution from the terminal?
[16:23] <Walex2> Guest44769: run the command again on a console like this: 'xinit /usr/bin/xterm -- :4 -dpi 110'
[16:23] <Walex2> Guest44769: if your X session comes up in the "native" resolution that should give you a suitable 'xterm'.
[16:24] <lolu> pfifo: if your problem is solved, its solved. I can guarantee that the ServerName directive in apache.conf wont affect anything other than suppressing the warning you had while starting the server.
[16:25] <Guest44769> Walex2, no luck. same result
[16:26] <lolu> pfifo: http://serverfault.com/questions/103426/apache2-could-not-reliably-determine-the-servers-fully-qualified-domain-name should settle this
[16:26] <pfifo> lolu: yes, thanks again. I think Walex and I got off track on what I was trying todo from /etc/hosts, which is a non-issue at this point'
[16:27] <lonewulf85> Hello is there anyone with experience with adding mkvtoolkit to Ubuntu 12.04 x64?
[16:27] <Walex2> Guest44769: then kill it and try again with: 'xinit /usr/bin/xterm -fa :size=14 -- :4'
[16:27] <someking> hi guys, is ubuntu 13.10 already stable enough to update?
[16:28] <cgtdk> someking: You should probably wait until it is released
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: what lulu is suggesting is the usual suggested fix to the extremely common warning ... it's even suggested in the ubuntu community docs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[16:29] <Guest44769> Walex2, Better but still no keyboard. BTW better means the Xterm window now covers about 1/3 of the screen
[16:29] <lolu> someking: release is on Oct 17, wait until after that
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> someking: wait for release
[16:29] <someking> cgtdk: ok, thanks. I already have 13.10 on my notebook because of a wifi problem on 13.04 and i wanted to have the same on my desktop
[16:29] <Walex2> Guest44769: what do you mean "no keyboard"?
[16:29] <Guest44769> unable to enter characters
[16:29] <cgtdk> someking: Try upgrading the kernel on your 13.04 installation
[16:29] <Walex2> Guest44769: that is again extremely unlikely.
[16:30] <Guest44769> Walex2, but again that's completely factual....
[16:30] <Walex2> Guest44769: however it can happen is you have no system 'udev' dæmon and no system DBUS dæmon
[16:30] <lonewulf85> never mind just having a blond moment fixed.
[16:30] <Walex2> Guest44769: because if the X server has an empty configuration, it will try to configure things by asking 'udev'/DBUS.
[16:30] <Guest44769> Walex2, how can I check for that and subsequently correct it?
[16:31] <Walex2> Guest44769: Howeverm you can still do an explicit X windows configuration that may also fix your other X windows issues.
[16:32] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: thats the fix im running with.
[16:32] <Walex2> Guest44769: try to copy this file to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf': http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/xorg.conf
[16:32] <Guest44769> Walex2, that leads me to another thought, WOuld I need to edit the X.org file created by the Nvidia installer?
[16:32] <Walex2> Guest44769: probably...
[16:33] <Walex2> Guest44769: if you are using the nVidia binary installer, there is a whole lot of other potential trouble you are getting into.
[16:33] <Guest44769> ok, now to find the Nvidia version of the file
[16:33] <Walex2> Guest44769: why aren't you using the Ubuntu provided or the x-swat team provided packages for the nVidia driver????
[16:34] <Walex2> Guest44769: the file I suggested should give a working X server with *antyhing*. It won't be optimally configured, but it should have all the basics covered.
[16:34] <Gallomimia> right. so i'm booting up a new system using a ubuntu 13.04 iso. so far i've had no luck, for once i get it booted or into the installer, the mouse and keyboard quit working. any suggestions?
[16:34] <Guest44769> Walex2, because I downloaded the driver directly from Nvidia using 3.19.17... can I still use the x-swat or ubuntu provided file?
[16:36] <cordyceps> mplayer wouldn't play oggs even though it has the codec. So I installed mplayer2 using Synaptic Pkg Mgr. Now it doesn't play anything. VLC works though.
[16:36] <Walex2> Guest44769: ideally you should dinsinstall the nVidia driver and install the ready-made packages. But note that disinstalling is not totally trivial.
[16:36] <real> Im looking to install ubuntu on a netbook (atom cpu)
[16:36] <Walex2> Guest44769: anyhow, save your current 'xorg.conf', put in the minimal one I suggested, and let's see what works.
[16:37] <real> where can i find more info?
[16:37] <Guest44769> Walex, at this point I'd like to fix any issues with the Nvidia Xorg.conf and udev/Dbus if needed
[16:37] <djp5592> real: should be straightforward.  install ubuntu to a flash drive, and boot to that, and install from there
[16:37] <djp5592> i would use unetbootin to put ubuntu to the flash drive
[16:38] <Walex2> Guest44769: we don't know which issues you have yet. So let's start from the beginning. The impression I got is tht you messed around a bit with your system without fully predicting the consequences...
[16:38] <ampw> any text editor like geany that works well on ubuntu
[16:38] <Guest44769> Walex2, how can I determine which config file is in use by Xorg?
[16:38] <cordyceps> real: beware SSD, the older ones require ext2, can't handle newer fses.
[16:38] <xtriz> why is that i can start some service in root and other not ? any specific reasons ?
[16:38] <Walex2> Guest44769: as a rule, it is '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' unless there is an argument that selects another one.
[16:39] <cordyceps> too many read/writes IIRC
[16:39] <Guest44769> Walex2, ok so I've vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:39] <Guest44769> have it open
[16:39] <Guest44769> what to look for?
[16:39] <Walex2> cordyceps: yes, older flsh drives did not do wear level management,.
[16:40] <Zal> older flash drives still last pretty much a normal human's lifetime
[16:40] <gordonjcp> I don't know anyone who has worn out an SSD
[16:40] <Walex2> Guest44769: instead do this: 'mv -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-saved' and then
[16:41] <Zal> running ext4 on mine, and expect to die of old age befor my SSD wears out
[16:41] <djp5592> gordonjcp: the only people i know who have are using full disk encryption on a ssd
[16:41] <foofoobar_> I want to restructure a folder structure. Can someone tell me how I can do this? THis is the structure: http://pastebin.com/06Fa7iDQ
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> older nand flash (specifically ones used in eeepc) had about 10k write lifetime per block
[16:41] <Walex2> Guest44769: 'wget -N -o /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/xorg.conf'
[16:41] <gordonjcp> djp5592: did they wear out the disk or did the encryption did just toss its cookies?
[16:41] <Walex2> Guest44769: 'wget -N -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/xorg.conf'
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> they still had basic wear leveling tho
[16:41] <cordyceps> I'm using a 900A w/original psion(?) Now only can boot live USB
[16:42] <djp5592> they exceeded the r/w because of the encryption
[16:42] <Guest44769> Walex2, Ok, instead I'm going to use the backup copy of xorg
[16:42] <Anonynimity> hello. I'm wondering if anyone has an idea on how I can force my computer to make me type in the username and password on the login screen
[16:42] <Guest44769> Cool?
[16:42] <faugusztin> gordonjcp: the only SSD's which died are the ones tested 24/7 with special tools, and even those mostly handle writes of 400TB+
[16:42] <faugusztin> & those which failed due bad components
[16:42] <cordyceps> mplayer wouldn't play oggs even though it has the codec. So I installed mplayer2 using Synaptic Pkg Mgr. Now it doesn't play anything. VLC works though.
[16:42] <cordyceps> :(
[16:44] <Ari-Yang> cordyceps: you should maybe run sudo apt-get purge mplayer2 and then re-install it.... personally I recommend mpv, fork of mplayer2 that I think is better than mplayer2 itself
[16:44] <cordyceps> Ari-Yang: thanks, goin in ...
[16:44] <Ari-Yang> cordyceps: but you'll have to get mpv from git https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build
[16:44] <Ari-Yang> there are insturctions at the bottom
[16:44] <cordyceps> k
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> * instructions
[16:45] <Walex2> Guest44769: my suggestion is specifically to use the one that I have indicated. If you think that some other configuration will solve your keyboard problem, good luck.
[16:45] <moontoise> hi
[16:45] <moontoise> how i can upgrade libpango ?!
[16:45] <real> djp5592: thanks, your correct.
[16:46] <djp5592> real: not a problem, good luck.
[16:46] <real> djp5592: didnt realize they integrated the netbook version into the desktop edition
[16:46] <Guest44769> Walex2, If my approach fails, I'll attempt to use the one you've suggested
[16:46] <architv> On this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors under the heading 'How to request a mentor' it says that i need to setup my own ubuntu wiki page where I need to write a brief intro about myself. How do I setup my own wiki page?
[16:46] <djp5592> yeah, it's awesome.  used it a while back, good speed, great fun
[16:46] <pfifo> moontoise: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade libpango'
[16:47] <lolu> architv: register at wiki.ubuntu.com and create a page for yourself
[16:47] <JWilmot> hi
[16:48] <architv> Thank you lolu!
[16:49] <Guest44769> Walex2, I've attempted to use the previous xorg.conf that was working prior to installing Nvidia driver and no luck
[16:49] <luxgeek> Anyone know how I can get my wireless AR9565 device to work? Is there a new kernel or something...I'm on 12.04 LTS
[16:49] <mads-> I'm feeling that my computer is beginning to get slow. Can I somehow run a test on it to see if it's the CPU, the RAM or whatever that is beginning to get old?
[16:49] <pfifo> mads-: computers dont 'get slow'
[16:50] <luxgeek> Sorry...12.0
[16:50] <luxgeek> 12.10
[16:50] <Guest44769> Walex2, could you repost the command for the xorg file you mentioned?
[16:51] <mads-> pfifo, well, I feel it's beginning to. If that is because it's old or because the OS running on it requires more than the OS running on it several years ago. But can I test what could be replaced to make it better?
[16:51] <Walex2> Guest44769: 'wget -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/xorg.conf'
[16:51] <Daeinar> reload
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> mads, if stuff starts running drastically slow, the best thing to do is a clean install
[16:51] <Walex2> luxgeek: try the '-cw-' backports
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> mads whats specs is your system?
[16:52] <moontoise> @pfifo , thank, but it dont upgrade libpango,
[16:52] <Walex2> luxgeek: 'linux-backports-modules-cw' of some appropriate version
[16:52] <Guest44769> Walex2, now just reboot?
[16:52] <pfifo> moontoise: what is the error? or is it saying its upto date?
[16:52] <moontoise> pfifo i download last libpango.tar.gz , but in ./configure , it error : no cairo installed
[16:53] <moontoise> pfifo yeah
[16:53] <moontoise> pfifo how i can install cairo?
[16:53] <luxgeek> Walex2: Ok, I'll check it out.
[16:53] <mads-> hitsujiTMO, 12.04 on a Intel E8400, with 4GB ram and 560 TI
[16:53] <lukodiablo> hi someone can help me configure wirelles card ?
[16:53] <Walex2> luxgeek: like this for example: 'sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-cw-3.8-precise-generic'
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> lukodiablo, Identify it to the channel for help.
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> mads thats a pretty decent system even for ubuntu 13.04 ...
[16:54] <moontoise> pfifo its say its up to date, but my version is: 1 , and last libpango version is: 1.34.1
[16:54] <Walex2> Guest44769: no, no need to reboot, just start again X with 'xinit /usr/bin/xterm -fa :size=14 -- :4'
[16:55] <pfifo> moontoise: so your building your own pango so you have something later than whats in the repos. OK got it...
[16:55] <lukodiablo> exactly i need setup driver 3573sta
[16:56] <Guest44769> Walex2, fail, the other xterm window doesn't open
[16:56] <moontoise> pfifo thanks
[16:56] <pfifo> moontoise: you have to install the cairo development package, 'sudo apt-get install libcairo2-dev'
[16:56] <luxgeek> Walex2: Got it, am installing one now :)
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> mads: you could have a look at 'top'   and see whats using resources
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> lukodiablo, run lspci in the terminal and identify the card exactly.
[16:56] <moontoise> pfifo really thanks dude :*
[16:56] <Walex2> Guest44769: then put on a pastebin both your '/var/log/Xorg.4.log' and your '/var/log/Xorg.4.log.old'
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> lukodiablo, And post the output of uname -a
[16:58] <foofoobar_> I want to restructure a simple folder structure. Can someone tell me how I can do this? THis is the structure: http://pastebin.com/06Fa7iDQ
[16:58] <Gallomimia> um... is the partitioning tool in the LiveCD installer supposed to do nothing?
[16:58] <Guest44769> Walex2, command please?
[16:58] <pfifo> moontoise: make sure to use 'sudo checkinstall' instead of the usual 'sudo make install' when ever your installing stuff on a debian/ubuntu system
[16:58] <Gallomimia> none of the buttons work, and it fails every time i try to go past it
[16:59] <moontoise> pfifo , really thanks for your help, i install cairo and so install pango, and now pango is upgraded, i love u :*
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, you can set up the partitions with gparted if needed, can you describe with detail whats going on.
[17:00] <Walex2> Guest44769: pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.4.log; pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.4.log.old
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, might help to screenshot gparted and imagebin it.
[17:01] <moontoise> now i want to install php gtk
[17:01] <Gallomimia> in detail, i'm using a live cd to install an os for a new system. in detail, the partition-your-drive section of the installer has 3 buttons that should work but do nothing in the customize section, and the no-custom-partitions option just says "it failed"
[17:01] <moontoise> but it cause error: checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.6.0... no
[17:01] <moontoise> how i can install GTK+
[17:01] <lukodiablo> wilee-nille i have no idea... the card is sitecom WLA 6100 http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Sitecom_WLA-6100
[17:02] <cac>  
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, lets see a screenshot of gparted, I assume you have checked the sum of the iso of the install.
[17:02] <Guest44769> Walex2, 6227551 and 6227552
[17:02] <robotdevil> what is the disktools that has smart and hdd disk health and stuff called. I think it is included by default. gui
[17:02] <robotdevil> need package name plz
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, disks
[17:03] <pfifo> moontoise: same way as before, you need the DEVELOPMENT packages for GTK+
[17:03] <moontoise> pfifo, yeah, i try it :D and now install gtk !
[17:03] <Gallomimia> wilee-nilee: yeah i checked the sum. the installer appears to have loaded to the OS this time
[17:03] <Walex2> Guest44769: before starting X again, run the command 'sudo rmmod nvidia'
[17:03] <pfifo> moontoise: 20 american dollars says you simply needed the development packages for pango to begin with :)
[17:04] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: to vague a search
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, Cool, and you understand the limitations of types of partitions and the limit of how many right?
[17:04] <moontoise> pfifo , ok , thanks
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, thats the name of it.
[17:04] <Gallomimia> i really don't care for partitions
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, and thast means?
[17:05] <Guest44769> Walex2, there was some wierd blinking on the screen, and then I got the xterm window but not able to type
[17:05] <Guest44769> ??
[17:05] <Gallomimia> i'm using a 500 gig drive that i scrounged all the crap off of and i'm willing to let the installer "do whatever"
[17:05] <lukodiablo> wilee-nilee if i run lsusb then i see Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0df6:006e Sitecom Europe B.V.
[17:05] <Walex2> Guest44769: do this again: 'pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.4.log'
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, Heh, there are physical limitations to types and how many partitions are allowed that can brick your HD if not followed.
[17:06] <raven_> hi
[17:06] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: found it. gnome disk utility
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> or brick the setup anyway
[17:06] <Gallomimia> yeah let's not do that :P
[17:06] <bjrohan> I have created an iso of a DVD on my hard drive. How do I now copy this to a USB. This is not a Live image, but a copy of a video DVD
[17:06] <robotdevil> not in package manager
[17:06] <robotdevil> &^*&^&^$$%
[17:07] <Walex2> Guest44769: also, double check the basic: have you move the cursor inside the 'xterm' rectangle before typing>
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, funny shows up as disks here.
[17:07] <pfifo> bjrohan: maybe your looking for 'dd' but depends on what your trying to do
[17:07] <Guest44769> Walex2 6227573
[17:07] <raven_> trying to compile this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download brings this errors: http://pastebin.com/yA1J3VY4 - ideas?
[17:07] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: sorry on lm
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, lm is?
[17:08] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: linux mint
[17:08] <Guest44769> Walex2 brb
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, YOu are on the wrong channel then it is not supported here.
[17:08] <Gallomimia> wilee-nilee: now that we've established that the particulars of the partition scheme don't matter a whit to me, and there's specific stuff to do for installers, can you suggest some scheme to setup using gparted which i now have running
[17:08] <bjrohan> pfifo: That was my thought, using dd. I have a video DVD. I made an iso that saved onto my hdd using k3b. I now want to put this onto a USB so that a friend who doesn't have a DVD player on his laptop can watch it
[17:08] <pfifo> raven_: either make you error messages english or ask in the german ubuntu channel, thanks
[17:09] <raven_> pfifo, how to
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, YOu are not even close to following my help, and have an attitude, best of luck I can't help you.
[17:09] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: yes I know but you did help me find it. this was syntax "gnome-disk" also thanks
[17:10] <pfifo> bjrohan: just copy it it to a usb stick in a usual method, and then link it to /dev/dvd on linux to 'fake it'... or on windows use a virtual drive
[17:10] <andry> anyone knows how to see the current buffering mode of xorg?
[17:10] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: technically im on kde too so really wrong channel ....lol
[17:10] <andry> ie triplebuffer
[17:10] <Guest44769> Walex2 - back
[17:11] <pfifo> raven_: i think its '/join #ubuntu-de'
[17:11] <raven_> pfifo, no that output in english
[17:11] <Walex2> Guest44769: also, double check the basic: have you move the cursor inside the 'xterm' rectangle before typing>
[17:11] <pfifo> raven_: dont know
[17:11] <moontoise> pfifo, sorry, now i want to install gtk+, but it cause error : *** No GTK-Doc found, please install it ***
[17:12] <Guest44769> For dumb
[17:12] <GamingX> Hi guys, I'm trying to make a compile a driver but I keep getting this error with the make command /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lusb .
[17:12] <Guest44769> Walex2, now what?
[17:12] <moontoise> pfifo i install gtk-doc but error continued
[17:12] <pfifo> moontoise: did you install the.... wait for it.... keep waiting.... development package!?
[17:12] <Walex2> Guest44769: can you type inside the 'xterm' if you move the cursor into it?
[17:13] <Guest44769> Ya
[17:13] <Walex2> Guest44769: then type 'unity'
[17:13] <Guest44769> *hangs head in Shame*
[17:13] <moontoise> pfifo, hm! i download gtk-doc-1.19.tar.gz and ./configure it carefully, its correct?!!
[17:14] <bjrohan> pfifo, what you are saying is that I can use Dolphin, Krusader, or cp to copy from hdd to the mounted usb. I am using Linux, friend is using Windoze, friend will then just use something like MagicDisc to mount the virtual drive
[17:14] <raven_> trying to compile this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download brings this errors: http://pastebin.com/7srqx2Wk - ideas? (xubuntu 13.04 with 3.8.0-31-generic)
[17:14] <Guest44769> Walex2, it states Compiz (decor) - Warn: requested pixmap type decoration when compsiting isn't available
[17:14] <pfifo> moontoise: no, if your going to build 1 of the gtk packages you really need to build all 100+ or so of them. building one isint going to be helpful and will likely break your system
[17:15] <pfifo> bjrohan: yeah, that sound like a good course of action
[17:15] <Guest44769> Walex2, there are many things wrong in the output
[17:15] <Walex2> Guest44769: ah yes, because the 'vesa' driver does not do it... Does it start at all?
[17:15] <bjrohan> pfifo: thanks
[17:15] <moontoise> pfifo but, how i can install gtk+ ? it say need to install gtk-doc
[17:15] <Guest44769> can you word that differently please Walex2
[17:16] <Walex2> Guest44769: do you a Unity-style desktop?
[17:16] <Walex2> Guest44769: do you see a Unity-style desktop?
[17:16] <Guest44769> no
[17:16] <moontoise> pfifo i try to install gtk+ : 'sudo apt-get install gtk+-dev'
[17:16] <bjrohan> pfifo: The iso file is 6.9GB, I am trying to copy it to a 8GB USB (fat32), it gets 4GB copited then is says it is full
[17:16] <pfifo> bjrohan: seriously though, you should just encode the dvd to a mpeg or something that can be played in a normal fashion
[17:16] <bjrohan> pfifo, I can do that as well, I want to preserve the few menu items as well though
[17:16] <Walex2> Guest44769: then restoere the previous/saved 'xorg.conf', and run again 'xinit /usr/bin/xterm -fa :size=14 -- :4
[17:16] <moontoise> pfifo but it cause many of errors !, i download the latest gt+ from site "http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/gtk+/3.8/gtk+-3.8.5.tar.xz" , and for ./configure it, i need to gtk-doc :(
[17:17] <pfifo> bjrohan: the fat filesystem only supports files upto 4 gb in size, you can use ntfs, or if your friend wants to install ext2 drivers for windows, then ext2 as well
[17:17] <trism> moontoise: libgtk2.0-dev or libgtk-3-dev depending on if you want 2 or 3, you likely don't want to build your own gtk
[17:17] <luxgeek> Walex2: Thanks again...that worked beautifully :)
[17:17] <Guest44769> When I ctrl - C i get a dbus erro at the end of the output Walex2
[17:18] <bjrohan> pfifo: DUH, thanks!
[17:18] <pfifo> moontoise: your on the highway to failure now... what are you trying to install php-gtk? I highly reccommend getting it from a PPA at this point
[17:18] <Walex2> Guest44769: no problem, for now, just restart with the nVidia driver and let's see what happens.
[17:18] <blurb> Hi, I'm trying install (k)ubuntu 13.04 with uefi. It boots into grub2 but only drops into a shell instead of detecting an OS (no error messages what so ever).
[17:18] <Walex2> Guest44769: BTW a lot of the desktop environments print a lot of irrelevant internal error messages, when started from a terminal.
[17:18] <moontoise> pfifo what is ppa address of php-gtk?!
[17:18] <foofoobar_> I want to restructure a simple folder structure. Can someone tell me how I can do this? THis is the structure: http://pastebin.com/06Fa7iDQ
[17:18] <Zal> blurb, hm, you mean drops into a grub shell?
[17:19] <pfifo> moontoise: search for it on http://launchpad.net
[17:19] <blurb> Zal: Yes.
[17:19] <moontoise> trism , i do 'sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev' but it cause error : libgtk2.0-dev : Depends: libpango1.0-dev (>= 1.20) but it is not going to be installed
[17:19] <moontoise> pfifo ok , i searching
[17:20] <Guest44769> Walex2, I'm reboot with the version of xorg that I believe to be created by nvidia
[17:20] <Guest44769> more to follow
[17:20] <daniel_> Someone could tell me about some place to get SERIAL number for this tool, please? : UFS Explorer Standard Recovery for Linux
[17:20] <pfifo> moontoise: speaking of pango, you might want to uninstall your updated version
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> !piracy | daniel_
[17:21] <raven_> trying to compile this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download brings this errors: http://pastebin.com/7srqx2Wk - ideas? (xubuntu 13.04 with 3.8.0-31-generic)
[17:21] <daniel_> I don't know anything about serial number etc
[17:21] <moontoise> pfifo , how i can uninstall it?
[17:21] <daniel_> I'm a linux user from tons years ago
[17:21] <moontoise> pfifo , i searched, and in launchpad php-gtk page , wrote: " php-gtk does not have any download files registered with Launchpad. "
[17:22] <Guest44769> Walex2, I rebooted to Gnome desktop without unity, dropped to tty 1, logged in, started a new xsession and attempted starting unity
[17:22] <blurb> Zal: When booting using a uefi partion, should I select that partion to be location for the bootloader?
[17:22] <pfifo> raven_: looks like the package your trying to compile dosent support the kernel your running
[17:22] <daniel_> hitsujiTMO: Really I don't know where start from. Sorry, but I need working such tool
[17:23] <Guest44769> Walex2, The output displays a message about No default Decoration found, placement will not be correct
[17:23] <Zal> blurb, sounds plausible, I'm not very familiar with grub though, sorry
[17:23] <blurb> ok
[17:23] <raven_> pfifo, any way to solve that?
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> daniel_: i presume you can get a serial for it from here: http://www.ufsexplorer.com/order.php?prod=sr
[17:23] <pfifo> moontoise: keep searching
[17:23] <Walex2> Guest44769: but what do you see on the screen?
[17:23] <pfifo> raven_: try a different kernel?
[17:24] <Guest44769> Walex2, perhaps I should re-installed compiz?
[17:24] <raven_> pfifo, what kernel would i need to downgrade to?
[17:24] <Walex2> Guest44769: reinstalling under GNU/Linux is almost always wrong. Rarely do packages get corrupted
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> Daniel_ what do you need the app for?
[17:24] <moontoise> pfifo i do 'apt-get purge libpango-1.0' but it cant uninstall it
[17:24] <moontoise> pfifo very thank for your helps :*
[17:24] <Walex2> Guest44769: it is almost always a configuration issue.
[17:25] <Guest44769> Walex2, ok, I've just had it work in the past
[17:25] <daniel_> hitsujiTMO: I'm a really single user, it's for just one use.
[17:25] <Walex2> Guest44769: but what you see on the screen now?
[17:25] <pfifo> raven_: Thats a good question to ask the electricowl developers
[17:25] <lukodiablo> someone can help me with setup driver 3573STA?
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> noone here will help you to pirate the software, however if you explain what you need it for someone might be able to suggest a free alternative
[17:26] <daniel_> hitsujiTMO: Such tool is probably the only way I could recover my data lost (my work of years).
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> what file system?
[17:26] <pfifo> moontoise: did you run checkinstall or just make install?
[17:26] <Guest44769> I see the xterm window where I killed unity command with ctrl + c (because unity didn't display) and now I see the messages about unregister path and server couldn't be contacted: D-BUS error
[17:26] <daniel_> The culprit of all this was, apart from me..., the new install of MInt 15
[17:26] <blurb> So, does anybody have any up to date info on how to install using uefi on ubuntu 13.04?
[17:27] <Walex2> #
[17:27] <Walex2> Guest44769: that message is fine...
[17:27] <gordonjcp> !uefi
[17:27] <Walex2> Guest44769: the Compiz does not start because you don't have 3D/GL acceleration
[17:28] <Guest44769> Whisky Tango Foxtrot.......How is that possibly now?
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> daniel_ what was the original file system? if its ext3 or ext4 maybe try: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
[17:28] <TomABC> Hi, I know this is unrelated but do u know where I can get help on php? the php channel is invite-only
[17:28] <Walex2> Guest44769: as a further attempt try 'unit --reset'
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> daniel_ there's also: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[17:28] <Guest44769> Walex2 unit reset?
[17:28] <Tylertwo> TomABC, maybe #programming
[17:29] <daniel_> hitsujiTMO: data were into a XFS partition, that's the important
[17:29] <Walex2> Guest44769: as a further attempt try 'unity --reset'
[17:29] <daniel_> testdisk couldn't do practically nothing
[17:29] <extraymond> Hi! Anyone how to get opencl working on optimus laptop? I want to use luxrender with opencl
[17:29] <Guest44769> Walex2, interesting, that works
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[17:29] <FloodBot1> sburjan`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:29] <blurb> gordonjcp: So, you still need to manually do it? Creating a efi partion isn't enough?
[17:30] <Walex2> Guest44769: what works? Resetting the Compiz config with 'unity --reset'?
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> Daniel_ i have no experience with xfs i'm afraid
[17:30] <pfifo> TomABC: /join ##php
[17:30] <daniel_> Please this is my emergency for years. If someone wants to help me privately, I would be very thankfull
[17:31] <daniel_> HitsujiTMO: thanks anyhow man
[17:31] <Guest44769> Walex2, yes I just ran that command and I have a unity desktop, albeit a bit lame in terms of display quality but it's there
[17:31] <kdeuser^> Walex2: I think unity --reset is deprecated. I use dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && unity --reset-icons
[17:31] <pfifo> daniel_: what was your question?
[17:32] <Walex2> kdeuser^: that's entirely likely
[17:32] <Zal> Guest44769, speaking of lame ... any chance you can get yourself a real nickname? It's so much more personable :-)
[17:32] <Guest44769> Zal, Ya about that
[17:32] <pfifo> Guest44769: /nick Guest44770
[17:32] <Walex2> Guest44769: now you need to fix your nVidia driver and driver config, but you have seen that starting Unity "manusally" works and does get DBUS started etc.
[17:32] <Guest44769> The default nick makes me feel like one of the borg
[17:33] <Zal> exactly
[17:33] <Zal>  /nick IamNottheBorg
[17:33] <daniel_> pfifo: it's above next in the thread
[17:33] <Guest44769> pfifo, lol #duh
[17:33] <Walex2> Guest44769: most likely your problem has always been a screwed up Compiz config
[17:33] <RandomUsr> How bout this?
[17:34] <kdeuser^> Yeah very personable :)
[17:34] <Zal> very slightly better ... thanks
[17:34] <daniel_> pfifo: if I repeat it much, I'm afraid I would doing practices against channel rules
[17:34] <Guest23782> Damnit
[17:34] <charley__> hello
[17:34] <Guest23782> who's mis-using their power
[17:35] <Walex2> RandomUsr: you could also use the Unity 2d interface, as in 'sudo apt-get install unity-2d' and then start it with 'gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d'
[17:35] <RandomUsr2> lol
[17:35] <charley__> unable to install ubuntu virtualbox on windows 7. hangs before installation window with purple bar across top screen
[17:36] <pfifo> daniel_: describe your problem, starting from the begging, giving lots of details, if you really have been working on this for years then ask your question on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ and then post a link to it here.
[17:36] <bjrohan> pfifo: I am trying to format the USB to ntfs, that is not an option in KDE partition manager,  I can read and write but not create ntfs, how do I add ntfs functionality
[17:36] <pfifo> bjrohan: boot to windows to format ntfs, linux cant do it (yet)
[17:36] <kdeuser^> charley__: that doesnt say much to help you.. Please provide more details.
[17:36] <bjrohan> Ah
[17:36] <Walex2> charley__: VBox is buggy, usually much better to use QEMU/KVM
[17:36] <RandomUsr2> Walex2, so, it's likely that compiz is broke and possibly some incorrect settings within the Nvidia xorg.conf?
[17:36] <pfifo> bjrohan: have you friend format it
[17:37] <bjrohan> I shall, thanks!
[17:37] <kmyst> hey does anybody else do pxe install and preseed??
[17:37] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: Compiz probably broke because the nVidia driver is not set up fully well.
[17:37] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: pastebin again your X server log...
[17:37] <RandomUsr2> Ah
[17:37] <Zal> kmyst, I have done it many times, never with ubuntu specifically
[17:38] <Zal> kmyst, is this a survey? :-)
[17:38] <charley__> the ubuntu setup initializes/ubuntu12.04....upgrade bios...blahblah./next screen hangs with purple bar at top of screen. like it tries to load but cant
[17:38] <RandomUsr2> Walex2 - 6227677
[17:38] <kmyst> Zal: lol no
[17:38] <kdeuser^> RandomUsr2: Have you ever seen unity on your computer?
[17:38] <charley__> should be install screen
[17:38] <kdeuser^> If you have , then its possible the setting is messed up and needs to be reset
[17:38] <kmyst> Zal: i'm trying to wrap my mind around why the installer just sits idle for ~10 minutes after the mirror portion before kicking into gear and doing the rest
[17:39] <kingplusplus> how do i scroll up when using screen terminal
[17:39] <kmyst> kingplusplus: shift+pgup
[17:39] <kingplusplus> kmyst, didn't work
[17:40] <Zal> kmyst, downloading the boot image over a slow connection?
[17:40] <kmyst> Zal: no it's local http
[17:41] <Zal> kmyst, hm, I've only used tftp, but I don't suppose that would account for the behavior you're seeing
[17:41] <kmyst> Zal: my preseed works...but it takes forever
[17:41] <RandomUsr2> Walex2, ideas?
[17:41] <PDilyard> alright i need some help...I am dual booting windows 8 and ubuntu on my laptop. Somehow, i managed to mess up GNOME, and i wanted to install ubuntu 12.04 (rather than 13). I decided to attempt to remove Ubuntu's partition, and reinstall ubuntu on a smaller partition than before. I deleted the partition for ubuntu, restarted and now i get "Unknown file system. grub rescue>"
[17:41] <PDilyard> i can hit escape on restart, but i cant get windows 8 to boot at all
[17:42] <pfifo> kingplusplus: screen dosent support scrollback
[17:42] <pranav> how do i enable remote desktop in ubuntu server (vnc) using terminal ?
[17:42] <kmyst> Zal: case in point....i'm staring at syslog and 12:14:48 was the last entry timestamp for get mirror/http/proxy
[17:42] <PDilyard> btw, i've successfully installed ubuntu 12.04, but to get into it, i have to go into the boot device options, then select Ubuntu
[17:42] <kdeuser^> pranav: You could use ssh?
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard do you have a windows cd?
[17:43] <pranav> kdeuser^: yes
[17:43] <Zal> kmyst, is that for the boot image, or the packages themselves?
[17:43] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: no, but i have a recovery partition
[17:43] <kmyst> Zal: packages
[17:43] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: i tried running the bootrec /fixmbr command, but it didnt change anything
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> ahhh
[17:43] <Zal> kmyst, huh, the only thing I can think of is that the http server itself is limited somehow. (I typically use NFS)
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> kk
[17:44] <charley__> when i start the vm i see a notice of 16 bit blah blah. could that be the problem?
[17:44] <kingplusplus> pfifo thanks
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> you might need to try: bootrec /rebuildbcd
[17:44] <__raven> i am looking for a tool that triggers midi from incoming sounds - some kind of triggering A when giving 440hz sine to it
[17:45] <kmyst> Zal: thought of that but i started tcpdump and packet captures and there's nothing going out over the wire....its just like when the preseed file is read and it hits the mirror portion it sets it up and just pauses for a long long time :/
[17:45] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: my list of bootoptions is "OS boot manager, ubuntu, Ubuntu, USB Hard Drive, EFI File"
[17:45] <kmyst> Zal: oh and the web server is just sitting there waiting patiently ;)
[17:45] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: still looking at the log
[17:45] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: so i must not have completely removed my last ubuntu installation
[17:45] <Zal> kmyst, odd
[17:45] <charley__> unable to install ubuntu virtualbox on windows 7. hangs before installation window with purple bar across top screen. when i start the vm i see a notice of 16 bit blah blah. could that be the problem?
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu tends to stick in uefi even if its been removed
[17:46] <PDilyard> oh ok
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> what happends if you boot to OS boot manager?
[17:47] <PDilyard> grub rescue
[17:47] <kmyst> Zal: even tried using the example preseed from the install instructions just modifying the mirror it points to...same results.  so, yes, odd.
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, You have the boot loader in the partitikon still.
[17:48] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: i'm thinking you may have removed the wrong partition
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, on a normal install it would be in the mbr, uefi uses a boot partition.
[17:48] <PDilyard> i know i kept C:\ and D:\ (recovery)
[17:49] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: your nVidia setup seems actually to be working OK, even if you installed from the nVidia autoinstaller.
[17:49] <PDilyard> bootrec /rebuildbcd says no windows installations detected :(
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> windows usually has a seperate partition for bcd
[17:49] <kmyst> Zal: lol it's been 23 minutes and counting and it just sits there idle :)
[17:50] <PDilyard> so do you think i removed windows somehow?
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> can you boot a live cd and greenshot gparted?
[17:50] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: the main problem and it is not a bit one is that your screen pixel size is 1680x0150 but the X server is configured for 1600x1200 and then incorrectly figures out it is actually 1920x1080.
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> or paste gparted textoutput
[17:50] <PDilyard> i can boot a live cd, im not sure what "greenshot gparted" means
[17:50] <PDilyard> screenshot
[17:50] <PDilyard> haha
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> screenshot*
[17:51] <RandomUsr2> Walex2, what to fix that piece?
[17:51] <PDilyard> should i boot from a live usb or from my working ubuntu installation?
[17:51] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: The other thing that is not optimal is that RANDR is not enabled, but you can leave that alone.
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> working ubuntu is just as good
[17:51] <charley__> i will try vmware. is it possible to save my ubuntu generated to data to a sd card via sd card reader?
[17:51] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: at some point in your "xorg.conf" there should be a line with "1600x1200" in it, change that to "1680x1050", might work
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Might be as simple as a boot flag missing, can you use the bootrepair app on a live ubuntu cd and run just the bootinfo summary?
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> sorry, i didnt realise you had gone thru the ubuntu install already
[17:52] <bekks> wilee-nilee: the boot flag is irrelevant on linux for about 15 years now.
[17:52] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: when i choose Ubuntu in the boot device options, i get Windows 8 boot loader as an option, but it goes to grub rescue
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, boot flag fopr a windows fix that is, if you have installed ubuntu the bootrepair app may get you up and running.
[17:53] <PDilyard> ok hang on
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> you have have overwritten the bcd partition so
[17:53] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: anyhow even if you got Gl acceleration, consider using Unity 2D... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity2D
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> bekks, I was refering to athe bcd fix
[17:53] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: what command did you want me to run?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> it matters there
[17:53] <rtwhrt> hi
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> gparted
[17:53] <PDilyard> ok one min
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> get us a view of your filesystem
[17:54] <charley__> unable to install ubuntu virtualbox on windows 7. hangs before installation window with purple bar across top screen. when i start the vm i see a notice of 16 bit blah blah. could that be the problem? i will try vmware. is it possible to save my ubuntu generated to data to a sd card via sd card reader?
[17:54] <rtwhrt> I am rtwhrt from hungary.
[17:54] <RandomUsr2> Walex2, that broke Unity and there are no window decorations
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> charley__, This ubuntu in virtualbox or an image?
[17:54] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: uhm, I just noticed that versions of Ubunty after 12.04 no longer have Unity 2D as there is some creepy emultion of GL available.
[17:55] <charley__> virtualbox
[17:55] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: changing "1600x1200" to "1680x1050" broke Unity?
[17:55] <RandomUsr2> Yes
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> charley__, that does not actually answer the question.
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> there is no ubuntu virtualbox
[17:56] <charley__> virtualbox 4.2
[17:56] <pranav> how do i enable remote desktop in ubuntu server (vnc) using terminal ?
[17:56] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: that is also highly unlikely. Then change it back, and find some other way to ensure your destop is in 1680x1050 mode. E.g. after it is started use 'nvidia-settings'.
[17:56] <charley__> installing ubuntu
[17:56] <charley__> hangs before install
[17:56] <RandomUsr2> Walex2, that's what I did
[17:56] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: because the manufacturer of your monitor: http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_x22wg_1080p.htm has a rather peculiar attittude.
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> charley__, ubuntu nad virtualbox are two different things, so again are you trying to install ubuntu in a virtualbox or use a image someone made of ubuntu for virtualbox?
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | charley__
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> !who | charley__ if you use nicks we actually comunicate
[17:58] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: that sounds bizarre.
[17:58] <RandomUsr2> Walex2,Thanks for your help. Not completely fixed but I need to get back to life for the rest of the day
[17:58] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO, wilee-nilee: http://i.imgur.com/WQQZlGT.png
[17:58] <PDilyard> gparted ^^
[17:58] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: OK, now you know a bit more how to tweak things...
[17:59] <jeanepaul_> need help
[17:59] <Walex2> BTW "life" is overrated. Expensive, timeconsuming. Computers are better :-)
[17:59] <RandomUsr2> lol
[18:00] <charley___> installing ubuntu on a virtual machine (virtualbox)
[18:00] <jeanepaul_> i think i have a broken lvm.. alert /dev/mapper/mainserver-ub-vg-root does not exist...
[18:00] <charley___> running windows 7
[18:01] <charley___> why
[18:01] <charley___> hello
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, be sure to use gksudo when you open gui's like that. Looks like everything is there, I'm not up on uefi is all, generally people recommend the bootrepair app, there is a thread at the ubuntu forum you v=can get help on this app, post the bootinfo summary there it is important if you have more troubles after using bootrepair.
[18:02] <PDilyard> ok
[18:02] <charley__> installing ubuntu on virtual box
[18:02] <charley__> running win7
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> charley__, You see the nomodeset info by the bot?
[18:03] <charley__> ?
[18:03] <charley__> where?
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> charley__: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> charley__, Not sure what irc app you are using, but when your nick is used it should show up colored.
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard, looks like all your windows partitions are there alright, including your bcd partition.
[18:05] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: im attempting boot-repair
[18:06] <ihre> I've mounted a smb share over a openvpn tunnel, now the tunnel disconnected, and the terminal freezes when trying to unmount the directory.. How can I work around this time-out/freeze ?
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Having your partitions out of numerical order though is problematic, however I don't think that is the issue here.
[18:07] <cs415> hey
[18:08] <cs415> any juju devs out there?
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> cs415, This is ubuntu support.
[18:08] <charley__> im unable to boot to this screen
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> cs415 try #ubuntu-server
[18:08] <charley__> described on the url
[18:08] <cs415> ok
[18:09] <charley__> http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=gfRNw8dFLy0lXM&tbnid=RPTq3susvynbrM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechluminati.com%2Foperating-systems%2Fhow-to-install-ubuntu-12-04%2F&ei=X5BZUo3xB8i0rQGai4G4Dw&bvm=bv.53899372,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNFxKWFWDK0KR4lpoTurwp-PbsvEKQ&ust=1381687753170321
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> charley__, Have you checked the sum of the iso, ubuntu should generally boot in vbox it has its own drivers, how much ram have you given it?
[18:10] <wiak> i can use "rsync -avP source/* /my/dest/folder/" and get everything in source into folder correct?
[18:10] <charley__> i tried every ram setting
[18:10] <bekks> wilee-nilee: a vbox vm does not have "its own drivers" until you install the guest additions after installing the guest OS.
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> bekks, ah, thanks
[18:11] <charley__> 1260 possible
[18:11] <OerHeks> cs145 #juju or #juju-dev
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> charley__, If no one knows here you might try #vbox
[18:12] <charley__> thanks
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> charley__, I would see if the iso on a cd or a usb boots, and identify the graphic card on the computer.
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> actually a dvd
[18:15] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO, wilee-nilee: thanks guys! boot-repair worked and im booting to win8 right now. you guys are awesome
[18:15] <motaka2> does anyone knows how I can see persian words correctely in terminal ?
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, cool, enjoy.
[18:18] <edman007> hrm... is the DNS for doc.ubuntu.com gone/down for anyone else? I can't load it...
[18:18] <edman007> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware references it
[18:19] <extraymond> ubuntu 13.04 x64
[18:19] <OerHeks> edman007, seems so
[18:20] <minimec> motaka2: I did some research for you... Did you check that forum thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451241
[18:21] <OerHeks> edman007, you might want to report this in #ubuntu-doc
[18:21] <motaka2> minimec: yes, I did that and no changes was observed
[18:22] <minimec> motaka2: I cannot help you further as I don't need such a change.
[18:24] <edman007> OerHeks, alright, will do...
[18:24] <motaka2> minimec: are u a developer?
[18:26] <minimec> motaka2: no.
[18:26] <jhutchins> !localle
[18:26] <jhutchins> !locale
[18:26] <jhutchins> motaka2: See above
[18:28] <pranav> when i try to login to my ubuntu server using vnc, all that I see is a cross with dots on screen
[18:28] <minimec> motaka2: You downloaded and installed that 'bicon' package, right?
[18:28] <pranav> what is this ? how do i get my desktop environment back ?
[18:29] <motaka2> minimec: I am not sure, i fallowed the steps in that forum
[18:29] <motaka2> minimec: where should I check ?
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> pranav unbuntu server does not normally have a desktop environment: how did you install it?
[18:30] <minimec> motaka2: ls /usr/bin/bic*
[18:30] <motaka2> minimec: here is the result:   ls /usr/bin/bic*
[18:30] <faugusztin> pranav: what is your standard desktop enviroment ?
[18:30] <Desheng> can the Pendrivelinux "Universal USB Installer" be used to make a bootable USB Ubuntu installer for UEFI systems? My system will boot from an official Windows 8 USB installer drive just fine, but it won't boot from the Ubuntu install USB I made.
[18:30] <pranav> faugusztin: hitsujiTMO: it is a complete Ubuntu 12.04 version. It used to give me unity just yesterday.
[18:30] <motaka2> minimec: sorry,    /usr/bin/bicon  /usr/bin/bicon.bin
[18:30] <njsg> pranav: that is X-windows, it just started X, and has no desktop environment starting
[18:31] <faugusztin> pranav: check ~/.vnc/xstartup
[18:31] <minimec> motaka2: ok. the binary is installed.
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> pranav is it unbuntu server or or ubuntu desktop running as a server?
[18:31] <pranav> hitsujiTMO: ubuntu desktop server
[18:32] <pranav> *sry ubuntu desktop as a server
[18:33] <minimec> motaka2: ok. open a gnome-terminal and execute 'bicon'. Not open another terminal and try your persion words.
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> Desheng, When I had tried that usb loader in the past, if I added additional ISO's it had contig fragmentation problems. There are a handful of usb loaders to try, describe the actual problem tjough.
[18:34] <motaka2> minimec: nope :(
[18:35] <kirin`> hello, when I start X with xinit I have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6226914/ starting in the terminal in endless loop. My .xinitrc http://paste.ubuntu.com/6226925/ , if that matters.
[18:35] <minimec> motaka2: well again... all I can do...
[18:35] <motaka2> minimec: but it is better now, before I got all chars of a word separated
[18:35] <bekks> kirin`: Thou shall not start X using xinit. :)
[18:35] <bekks> kirin`: Just use a DM like lightdm.
[18:36] <Desheng> When I use the Pendrivelinux USB boot maker, I can't boot from it: "The selected boot device failed. Press <Enter> to continue". Whereas I can use the same "restart with USB device" option with an official Windows 8 works just fine
[18:36] <Robr3rd> For years I have used Banshee to sync music onto my old iPod touch (2g), although after updating to the latest stable Ubuntu version, whenever I plug in my iPod Banshee locks up. This happens if Banshee is ALREADY open, AND if I open it AFTER I plug in the iPod. I also tried this with Rhythmbox, gtkpod, and each of those three with a newer iPod touch (4G) as well, but I get the same results with each of them. Nautilus mounts it fine,
[18:36] <Robr3rd> however these players seem to have a problem. I suspect the problem may be with one of the libraries that handle iDevices. The packages libimobiledevice3 and libgpod4 are all completely up-to-date.
[18:37] <minimec> motaka2: Is there any 'persian region' ubuntu channel? Or try others like 'russian' or 'japanease' channels and ask them kindly in english, how they handle that in ubuntu.
[18:37] <minimec> motaka2: I GUess thay should have similar proglems...
[18:38] <motaka2> minimec: I'll try, I really apreciate your care
[18:38] <minimec> motaka2: no problem
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> Desheng, Can't boot from it means what exactly, it does not start, or you get a black screen, for example.
[18:40] <Desheng> I mean that UEFI shows me a screen saying "The selected boot device failed." and then falls through to a boot selection screen that only lets me boot into the existing Win8 on the hard drive
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> Desheng,Soory you give somewhat of a description, I would try unetbootin maybe.
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> Desheng, Is windows completely closed and the fastboot off in the bios, you want W8 to be not in the fastboot stage for sure.
[18:42] <Desheng> I turned off fastboot and turned off Secure Boot. And the laptop *will boot from an official Win8 installer usb* but not from the Ubuntu one. I don't think my boot process is wrong, I think that I'm making the Ubuntu install key incorrectly
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> Desheng, I found that pendrive usb loader to be more hassle than its worth, but thats just me, try another usb loader
[18:44] <wallzero> Greetings, is it possible to use a signed kernel with secureboot disabled?
[18:44] <Desheng> I'm trying "Win32 Disk Imager" that someone in #debian linked me to
[18:44] <Desheng> to write the ISO right onto the drive
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero... i'm no expert at that but i don't see why not
[18:44] <rickyrayjay> #xubuntu is kinda slow, can anyone help me figure out how to use a custom image for background in xubuntu? i upgraded to xfce4 and the desktop settings window is different...no option to add a file
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> Desheng, Be sure to use nicks here is all, is "Win32 Disk Imager" the one failing?
[18:52] <LyzardKing> I need to know why the fn keys to control backlight work in ubuntu and kubuntu but not in xubuntu
[18:52] <moontoise> hi guys, how i can uninstall libpango ?
[18:52] <LyzardKing> the notification shows the level of backlight, but it doesn't actually change
[18:53] <cgtdk> !details | LyzardKing
[18:54] <LyzardKing> running xubuntu 13.10(but it's the same with 13.04). pressing fn keys to change backlight the notification pops up to show the new level of backlight, but the level remains the same
[18:54] <cgtdk> Hardware details would be useful to people as well
[18:55] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: what is in /sys/class/backlight/ ?
[18:55] <LyzardKing> nvidia card
[18:55] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: acpi_video0@  toshiba@
[18:56] <LyzardKing> is it possible to see what the fn-F6 combination is running?
[18:56] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: Thank you. I have a follow up question/issue. Can a signed kernel load root in an encrypted partition?
[18:57] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: go to toshiba folder, check the value of max_brightness value. then try to execute the following command (10 should be half of the value you find in max_brightness) : echo 10 > /sys/class/backlight/toshiba/brightness
[18:58] <Desheng> Where can I find an Ubuntu live/install image that I can write with "Win32 Disk Imager"? It's asking me for a .img file and I can only find ubuntu ".iso" installer images
[18:58] <ikonia> Desheng: they are not in that format
[18:59] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: there is a chance that ubuntu/kubuntu had no acpi_video0 device, or it was configured correctly. i have a similar problem where i got acpi_video0 and intel on my laptop, intel controlls the backlight, but apps change value in acpi_video0
[18:59] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: I have setup my system to boot into an encrypted partition containing root and swap. I have setup crypttab and fstab correctly
[18:59] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: Normal kernels boot just fine, but signed kernels can't find the root.
[18:59] <ziggy> HI! Does persistence lower the life expectancy of a flash drive or are write operations buffered until shutdown?
[18:59] <ABX5B> Why u need IMG anyway?
[19:00] <Robr3rd> For years I have used Banshee to sync music onto my old iPod touch (2g), although after updating to the latest stable Ubuntu version, whenever I plug in my iPod Banshee locks up. This happens if Banshee is ALREADY open, AND if I open it AFTER I plug in the iPod. I also tried this with Rhythmbox, gtkpod, and each of those three with a newer iPod touch (4G) as well, but I get the same results with each of them. Nautilus mounts it fine,
[19:00] <Robr3rd> however these players seem to have a problem. I suspect the problem may be with one of the libraries that handle iDevices. The packages libimobiledevice3 and libgpod4 are all completely up-to-date.
[19:00] <ikonia> ziggy: no more / less than normal use
[19:00] <Jordan_U> wallzero: Is the entry the same? Is your initramfs the same between the two kernels?
[19:00] <ikonia> Robr3rd: I suspect it's more down to the constant changes apple apply to the ipods - compatability is just a poor moving target
[19:00] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: is it not possible to change on what file the apps operate?
[19:01] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: no, there seems to be a way to get rid of the acpi_video0, but i didn't have time to test those
[19:02] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: it should be enough to add this kernel parameter : acpi_backlight=vendor
[19:02] <Robr3rd> ikonia, *nods* Okay, that is fair. Do you know of a place I may be able to find a discussion on this? I have Googled quite a bit but have not yet come up with anything. Also, do you think that jailbreaking it may help? At worst, I could (theoretically) copy/paste the music into the filesystem in Nautilus, right?
[19:02] <wallzero> Jordan_U: Yes, the kernels are the same name except for the appended ".efi.signed". Only one initramfs is generated.
[19:03] <Jordan_U> wallzero: How did you you get this signed kernel?
[19:03] <wallzero> Jordan_U: apt-get
[19:03] <ikonia> Robr3rd: not sure what sort of discussion you're looking for to be honest, with regard to jailbreaking, the support is almost as hit and miss too
[19:04] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: seems like that should be enough, it is working for me on my laptop, that acpi_backlight=vendor kernel parameter
[19:04] <Robr3rd> ikonia, Gotcha. And I am guessing that since Banshee, Rhythmbox, AND gtkpod can't do it, that there's noto much point in me searching and trying more music players since they probably all use the same common libraries?
[19:04] <ikonia> Robr3rd: that would be my view/opinion also, but I certainly don't know for fact
[19:04] <wallzero> Jordan_U: I am also using the signed efi grub, which is working for my unsigned kernels. I have secureboot disabled for now until I can run a signed kernel.
[19:05] <Robr3rd> ikonia, Certainly. And lastly, do you have any theories as to why this may have only started happening AFTER the upgrade? It worked prior to the upgrade and broke after it -- same day, and same /home partition
[19:06] <moontoise> how i can install HARFBUZZ ??
[19:06] <ikonia> Robr3rd: I'd make some random guesses without research that they bumped library versions that dropped/changed the comms process to try to work with $X - the broke $Y
[19:06] <m3kill> ..
[19:06] <ikonia> Robr3rd: however this questions appears a lot in support resources "it was working last week, now it doesn't" or "my ipod gen3 works, but not gen4"
[19:07] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: so the answer is : edit /etc/default/grub, add acpi_backlight=vendor to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, then execute sudo update-grub
[19:07] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: then reboot and it should work
[19:07] <wallzero> Jordan_U: You have me thinking that maybe the initrd needs to copied and renamed to include the ".efi.signed" I will try that.
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: what version of ubuntu and what version of kernel?
[19:07] <Robr3rd> ikonia, *nods* Right. Alright, thanks
[19:08] <wallzero> raring but with kernel 3.11.0-12-generic
[19:09] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: but I am trying to use kernel 3.11.0-12-generic.signed
[19:12] <wallzero> I have copied and renamed the config and initrd filesnames to match the signed kernel vmlinuz filename. I will reboot and see if that works.
[19:14] <shadow98> find /home/www/uploaded_files/ -mtime -2 -type f -not -iname 'index.php' -delete
[19:14] <shadow98> not working..can someone review please
[19:14] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: so I have to add the parameter on both lines?
[19:15] <Addle> I'm on a Toshiba S70D-A on 13.10 beta 2 and neither screen savers or screen dim/blanking with DPMS work. When supposed to start, it just flickers and nothing else happens. Any hints?
[19:15] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: yes
[19:16] <LyzardKing> thanks, I'll try and reboot now
[19:17] <wallzero> Jordan_U: No luck. I believe the signed kernel is looking at the proper config and initrd files. I still can't figure out why it ignores the crypttab.
[19:17] <crosbymichael> what is the most lightweight, headless, ubuntu installer out?  Ubuntu server is still 1gb+ with only SSH installed
[19:17] <zhanglf> any one here ?
[19:17] <Jordan_U> wallzero: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[19:18] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: oh, actually it is enough to put it in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX line
[19:19] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: did it help ?
[19:20] <crosbymichael> ubuntu mini remix looks like what I want but I need to install to disk
[19:20] <wallzero> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/158JVjcV
[19:21] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: no, now I don't see even the notification
[19:22] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: ok, then try the other stuff described here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/backlight#ACPI - that is acpi_backlight=legacy and various acpi_osi options
[19:23] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: and try the manual setting, to find out which device controls your backlight
[19:23] <Jordan_U> wallzero: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support only, for Linux Mint please use their support channels.
[19:23] <nick07_> hi, how to install an older version of blender? I have version 2.65 in a folder, but it won't execute
[19:23] <Jordan_U> nick07_: Why do you want an older version?
[19:24] <nick07_> because of a important plugin
[19:24] <nick07_> that only works for 2.65
[19:24] <crosbymichael> Jordan_U: could you please look at my question about a minimal ubuntu server iso/install ?
[19:25] <cgtdk> crosbymichael: The minimal iso
[19:25] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: now in /sys/class/backlight I only have toshiba, and the manual setting doesn't work with it
[19:25] <cgtdk> I don't think there is anything smaller than that
[19:25] <nick07_> i do have the 2.65 folder on my desktop, and i give the permission to execute, but i don't do anything
[19:25] <nick07_> *it
[19:25] <pfifo> how can I tell if my CPU is a 64 bit arch?
[19:25] <crosbymichael> cgtdk: i'll take a look
[19:25] <wallzero> Jordan_U: I understand, but I am confident this issue is agnostic. I can load a signed Ubuntu kernel if you really want.
[19:25] <cgtdk> crosbymichael: I believe the minimal system can be installed through the server ISO too
[19:25] <cgtdk> !minimal
[19:26] <Jordan_U> wallzero: If you want support here please try with *Ubuntu*, not with just an Ubuntu kernel.
[19:27] <{monica}> Hi, I have question about OpenLDAP 2.4. How to increase olcSizeLimit? I can't find the command.
[19:27] <wallzero> Jordan_U: Thanks for an open mind.
[19:27] <nick07_> is it important if it's the glibc27 or the glibc211 version? (ubuntu 12.04)
[19:27] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: reverse the changes we did then - remove acpi_backlight=vendor from /etc/default/grub, then run sudo update-grub, reboot
[19:27] <ikonia> nick07_: what ?
[19:28] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: backlight is unfortunately still hit or miss
[19:28] <kostkon> pfifo, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm
[19:28] <ikonia> nick07_: there should only be one version installed and it should be the version ubuntu supplied, it's important to not change it
[19:28] <nick07_> there is no version installed
[19:28] <mcl0vin> hello , just upgraded to 13.04 , this is on a headless srvr, i am trying to access terminal so i ssh to 192.168.2.x o port 22 i get "The remote system refused the connection." ay help please
[19:28] <ikonia> nick07_: what exactly are you trying to do ?
[19:28] <mcl0vin> *any
[19:28] <pfifo> kostkon: have lm in the flags
[19:28] <nick07_> i just want to install version 2.65
[19:28] <kostkon> pfifo, then 64bit
[19:28] <ikonia> mcl0vin: look in the access log
[19:29] <nick07_> i can choose between 2 versions
[19:29] <kostkon> pfifo, which cpu is it btw
[19:29] <ikonia> nick07_: so pick which version will best meet your needs
[19:29] <mcl0vin> ikonia: how and i can't access the box
[19:29] <nick07_> blender-2.65a-linux-glibc211-i686.tar.bz2 or blender-2.65a-linux-glibc27-i686.tar.bz2
[19:29] <ikonia> nick07_: but only install one
[19:29] <ikonia> mcl0vin: then how can we help you - and how can you fix it
[19:29] <Jordan_U> nick07_: What is your end goal? What is the name of this plugin and what does it do?
[19:29] <nick07_> yes, the question is here, how do i install it..?
[19:30] <ikonia> nick07_: open the package manage, find the package, click insall
[19:30] <ikonia> install
[19:30] <mcl0vin> ikonia: we can! i forgot i had x on that box ;)
[19:30] <kostkon> pfifo, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model
[19:31] <pfifo> Im trying to setup grub isoboot with the ubuntu 12.04 64bit livecd, and im  running into /boot/vmlinuz.efi which I think is the kernel, but the efi part is throwing me off, Ive never seen the kernel have a extension and have no idea about the new efi tech. Is this the kernel?
[19:31] <eer> My Ubuntu 13.04 system is English language. However, I don't want this terrible US date format month/day/year. Is there a way to change this in Evolution?
[19:31] <eer> I want day/month/year
[19:31] <nick07_> in the package manager it says a different version
[19:31] <pfifo> kostkon: http://fpaste.org/46367/13816063/
[19:31] <nick07_> so that is no option
[19:32] <nick07_> if i can download the correct version, like it did, how to install this tar.gz file?
[19:32] <hellyeah> hey
[19:32] <mcl0vin> ikonia: so i am in via nx. which access log are we talking about here? nothing in /var/log
[19:32] <ampw> how do i check gnome version from terminal
[19:32] <hellyeah> i  have some problem about mounting iphone on ubuntu
[19:32] <hellyeah> do you suggest anything about that
[19:33] <SeanBlader> @ampw: $gnome-session --version
[19:33] <mcl0vin> ikonia: find yeild ./log/cups/access-log is that what you ref to
[19:33] <ampw> SeanBlader: Much thanks
[19:33] <SeanBlader> :-) I knew something from the terminal! Hehe fun!
[19:33] <ikonia> mcl0vin: no, that's for cups
[19:33] <ikonia> mcl0vin: look in your syslog
[19:33] <__agon__> ls
[19:34] <moontoise> hi guys
[19:34] <Jerry_B> hi
[19:34] <moontoise> when i try to install gtk+, error cause stop installing : "No package 'atk' found"
[19:34] <moontoise> how i can install atk
[19:34] <mcl0vin> ikonia: you want me to look in the syslog
[19:35] <__agon__> hello there, I have problems with mounting usb sticks. E.g. when I open thunar as a normal user, I can click on the usb stick, but the directory is empty. But if I start thunar as root, I am able to see contents of the usb stick
[19:35] <ikonia> mcl0vin: yes, that's why I said "look in your syslog"
[19:35] <puff> Afternoon.  I have an hp 6520 printer/copier/scanner.  It has worked fine up until today, now it says it's out of photo paper when I'm trying to print something from notepad.
[19:35] <mcl0vin> ikonia: okay, what am i grepping for
[19:35] <Jerry_B> moontoise: did you run apt-get update first?
[19:35] <moontoise> yes
[19:36] <moontoise> Jerry_B yes dude
[19:36] <puff> There's regular paper in, the 6520 has a special loader for photo paper and it keeps popping up a dialog saying it's out of paper, and the on-printer screen says load photo paper.
[19:36] <ikonia> mcl0vin: I didn't say "grep" I said "look"
[19:36] <mcl0vin> ikonia: what am i looking for
[19:36] <mcl0vin> :)
[19:37] <ikonia> mcl0vin: an access error from ssh
[19:37] <Jerry_B> moontoise: you can check the ubuntu site to see what sources.list you need to have
[19:37] <Addle> faugusztin: I also just tried acpi_backlight=vendor and my screensaver and/or screen blanking turns on now. No screen dim setting anymore, though.
[19:37] <moontoise> Jerry_B , i do this, but ok, i try again :*
[19:38] <Jerry_B> moontise: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/gir1.0-atk-1.0/download
[19:39] <scott_w> hi, i'm thinking about getting a 13" MBP retina and putting ubuntu 13.04 in a parallels VM
[19:39] <Jerry_B> moontise: switch to x64 as needed
[19:39] <scott_w> so, before handing £1200 of my money over to amazon, i'm just wondering if there's anything i should know first ;-)
[19:39] <moontoise> Jerry_B Very thanks dude, i love u :*
[19:39] <ikonia> scott_w: be aware of issues with ubuntu fonts and retina pannels
[19:40] <ChaosInMind> So I'm having an issue with VSFTPD 3.0.2 on Ubuntu Server
[19:40] <kostkon> scott_w, why not 13.10?
[19:40] <cgtdk> scott_w: Why not get a Thinkpad?
[19:40] <minimec> moontoise: I don't know how or what package of gtk+ you want to install... Are you compiling? Ure error shouldn't happen. What you need is probably libatk1.0 and libatk1.0-dev, if you are compiling something.
[19:40] <ChaosInMind> It won't accept the no_anon_password=YES option.
[19:40] <scott_w> kostkon: you're right, i'll probably put that on, by the time it arrives
[19:40] <scott_w> (is 13.10 already out?)
[19:40] <kostkon> scott_w, ;)
[19:40] <cgtdk> kostkon: because it hasn't been released yet?
[19:40] <cgtdk> scott_w: it isn't
[19:41] <scott_w> cgtdk: because macs are sexier i'm afraid ;)
[19:41] <kostkon> scott_w, on the 17th
[19:41] <SeanBlader> 13.10 is pre-release mode.
[19:41] <cgtdk> SeanBlader: i.e., it hasn't been released yet
[19:41] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i can't find anything pertain to ssh
[19:42] <SeanBlader> Yeah, I'm not a power user by any stretch, but my google-foo is pretty good, so I usually load up the pre-releases.
[19:42] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: but is it possible to see what a key combination does?
[19:42] <scott_w> :-O i might run my work computers through the full upgrade process to kill productivity for next week
[19:42] <LyzardKing> to see what fn keys are calling
[19:42] <ikonia> mcl0vin: ok, so run ssh -vv user@host and check the output for why you are being rejected
 i want to install php gtk, its say to i must install gtk+ first. i try to install gtk+ 3 , and this occured errors : "No package 'atk' found | No package 'pango' found | No package 'gdk-pixbuf-2.0' found"
[19:42] <ChaosInMind> ftp://mirror.liquidio.net/ on vsftpd set up for anon read only, but it always asks for a password.
[19:42] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: anonymous you still enter a password, it's just normally nothing/your email
[19:42] <minimec> moontoise: You have the wrong sources...
[19:43] <SeanBlader> Scott_W, it won't take a week unless you have like more than 10 computers to upgrade.
[19:43] <ChaosInMind> no_anon_password=YES
[19:43] <minimec> moontoise: ... package...
[19:43] <ChaosInMind> I have that set
 oops! how i can repair (upgrade) my source?!
[19:43] <SeanBlader> I did a fresh install of 13.10 in like 2 hours, that's with a /home backup, full format and re-partition, and upgrade to Gnome 3.10
[19:43] <hellyeah> i cannot mount iphone in ubuntu13.04 what the hell
[19:43] <pfifo> plut0: you still around?
[19:43] <mcl0vin> !flood
[19:44] <ChaosInMind> ikonia: I have no_anon_password=YES set. I need this to act like a public ftp for downloads
[19:44] <scott_w> SeanBlader: there's 3, but i might upgrade our production web server too
[19:44] <scott_w> then leave the country before my CEO gets back and kills me
[19:44] <SeanBlader> LOL!
[19:44] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: have you restarted vsftpd after setting this ? have you got real users disabled ?
[19:44] <ChaosInMind> Yes, I've restarted it
[19:44] <ChaosInMind> local users are disabled
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> listen=YES
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> local_enable=NO
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> anonymous_enable=YES
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> write_enable=NO
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> anon_root=/var/ftp
[19:45] <FloodBot1> ChaosInMind: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> anon_max_rate=2048000
[19:45] <minimec> moontoise: If you use the package provided by the ubuntu repository, all dependencies should be resolved...
[19:45] <scott_w> out of curiosity, does 13.10 work better with the retina resolution?
[19:45] <mcl0vin> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228125/
[19:46] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: the man page says, if no_anon_password = yes then it can't ask for a password
 ok dude, thanks :*
[19:46] <ChaosInMind> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228128/
[19:46] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: so either a.) you're editing the wrong file b.) you've made a typo c.) you've not restarted vsftpd
[19:46] <ChaosInMind> It's the only vsftpd file.
[19:47] <ChaosInMind> It's the only vsftpd file. /etc/vsftpd.conf
[19:47] <ChaosInMind> apt-get install vsftpd creates that .conf file
[19:47] <SeanBlader> scott_w I dunno, only have half HD here on my Dell Dev-edition ultrabook. I thought I heard on the interwebs somewhere that gnome 3.10 is looking better with high res displays.
[19:47] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: I can only explain the 3 most realistic options.
[19:48] <ChaosInMind> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228128/
[19:48] <flower-pot> exit
[19:48] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: you've already pasted that
[19:48] <xtriz> This is an Ubuntu Remix Live CD.For the default live system, enter "live".  To run memtest86+, enter "memtest" how can i get the ncurses menu instead of simple text ?
[19:48] <scott_w> SeanBlader: i've looked at that, it looks ok but i couldn't justify the price like i seem to be able to with the mac
[19:48] <ChaosInMind> I don't see a typo...
[19:48] <scott_w> i think it's pure decadance on my part though :-P
[19:49] <ikonia> xtriz: ubuntu remix is not an ubuntu distro
[19:49] <SeanBlader> scott_w: Yeah and they don't yet have a high res ubuntu ultrabook. I'm waiting on the haswell version.
[19:49] <SeanBlader> I couldn't use the mac's though, the keyboard is all weird.
[19:50] <scott_w> SeanBlader: you know what's doing it for me? it's the fact that macbooks seem to have the best trackpads of all the laptops i've tried
[19:50] <xtriz> ikonia, i was customizing ubuntu, ubuntu remix was given as an example on ubuntu wiki
[19:50] <SeanBlader> scott_w yeah but that goes away under Linux.
[19:50] <scott_w> i think i've reached that age where i'll pay a lot more just for those little things
[19:50] <ikonia> xtriz: right, so we don't support your remix
[19:50] <scott_w> i meant the sheer size of it
[19:50] <linuxnewbie> Hello, can someone help me with this - http://askubuntu.com/q/357142/14643
[19:51] <ChaosInMind> ikonia: I checked the init file, it is pointing to vsftpd.conf CONFFILE="/etc/vsftpd.conf"
[19:51] <xtriz> ikonia, np :)
[19:51] <scott_w> and i think the two-finger scroll still works (it works on the magic mouse i bought my mum last christmas)
[19:51] <SeanBlader> I know if you are using unity then the dell dev edition has 3 and 4 finger swipe support on the trackpad.
[19:51] <scott_w> is it a big trackpad?
[19:52] <SeanBlader> I guess it's not as big as the MBP's, but it's as big as it can be given the size of the device.
[19:52] <scott_w> how much did you pay, out of curiosity?
[19:52] <scott_w> i've just looked and it's only £900
[19:52] <scott_w> i'm sure it used to be more
[19:52] <ikonia> scott_w: maybe take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:53] <SeanBlader> So a little bigger than like 5 keys across and like 3.5 keys tall on a standard keyboard.
[19:53] <ikonia> we are moving a bit away from ubuntu discussion
[19:53] <scott_w> ikonia: g point, i was thinking that too
[19:55] <m3kill> how to wakeup a process
[19:55] <OerHeks> ChaosInMind,   anonymous_enable=YES >> "ftp" and "anonymous" are recognised anonymous logins. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man5/vsftpd.conf.5.html
[19:57] <ikonia> OerHeks: that's a good spot
[19:58] <SynchronE> hi everyone
[19:58] <mcl0vin> ikonia: ?
[19:58] <mcl0vin> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228125/
[19:58] <ikonia> mcl0vin: what ?
[19:58] <mcl0vin> ^^
[19:58] <ikonia> mcl0vin: look in the auth.log on the server see why it's rejecting it
[19:58] <mcl0vin> forgive me if you did respond
[19:59] <mcl0vin> ikonia: okay
[19:59] <ChaosInMind> OerHeks: I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I do not want people to "log in" I need it to be a public ftp with no login required.
[19:59] <SynchronE> I tried to make a persistent usb without usb-creator (no access to ubuntu machine, only debian). It boots okay without "persistent" kernel option, but with I add it - the output is pretty similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/683260
[20:00] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: they still have to login as the user "anonymous"
[20:00] <ikonia> try it
[20:00] <ChaosInMind> explain ftp://ftp.redhat.com then
[20:00]  * SynchronE used 13.04 x64 iso
[20:00] <ChaosInMind> they use vsftpd and it does not ask for a login
[20:00] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: how do you know thats vsftpd ?
[20:01] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: and it ask for a login
[20:01] <ChaosInMind> It's on the vsftpd website
[20:01] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: that doesn't mean "that server" is vsftpd, and it does ask for a login
[20:01] <ChaosInMind> If I go there with chrome or firefox it does not ask for a password.
[20:01] <OerHeks> ChaosInMind, i am looking for the command to force the user as anonymous, by default, that is what you want
[20:01] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: yes, because your browser fills in anonymous for you
[20:01] <OerHeks> ah browser side
[20:01] <ChaosInMind> Ok, then why does it ask for a password on mine then?
[20:01] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: on your command line ?
[20:02] <ChaosInMind> No, in the browser
[20:02] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: as I've just said, it sends "anonymous" for you
[20:02] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: try it in the command line and it will prompt you
[20:02] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: it's a browser thing
[20:02] <SynchronE> Anyone has experience with usb live systems?
[20:02] <ChaosInMind> ftp://mirror.liquidio.net in firefox asks for a pw. ftp://ftp.redhat.com does not ask
[20:02] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: it's a browser thing
[20:03] <ChaosInMind> I hear you, but why for one site and not another?
[20:03] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: maybe they are serving ftp over http (redhat) and the other one is not
[20:03] <ChaosInMind> When people go to my site in a browser, I don't want them prompted for a password.
[20:03] <LinuxGuy2020> Can I install gnome3 on top of ubuntu server to get wifi card working, then remove gnome3 afterwards and still have the wifi work on a command line only server? Just wanted to do this to avoid having to manually configure the networking. Or is there a better easier way?
[20:03] <SynchronE> ChaosInMind: Thunar for ftp://mirror.liquidio.net says Connection refused
[20:03] <extraymond> Hi! Guys after upgrade fglrx driver to current updates, there is no amdcccle in dash.
[20:04] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: they are also serving it over http http://ftp.redhat.com/
[20:04] <SynchronE> ChaosInMind: also you can try and use ftp://anonymous:anypassword@mirror.liquidio.net
[20:05] <ChaosInMind> Sorry, I rebooted the server that's why its connection refused.
[20:05] <ChaosInMind> I really need to mimic this without a username and password.
[20:05] <ChaosInMind> Just like ftp://ftp.redhat.com
[20:06] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: just so you know, if you try to login to the ftp.redhat.com server with any other user other than "anonymous" it fails
[20:06] <SynchronE> well Thunar asked me for credentials as soon as it seen the ftp:// link
[20:06] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: so OerHeks's statement was correct
[20:06] <SynchronE> i just chose anonymous
[20:06] <OerHeks> ChaosInMind, so you want anonymous, leave line 10 out > no_anon_password=YES
[20:06] <ChaosInMind> no_anon_password=YES means don't ask for a password.
[20:06] <m3kill> how to wakeup a process
[20:07] <bekks> m3kill: How did you put it to sleep?
[20:08] <mcl0vin> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228205/
[20:09] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i don't understand what that log say
[20:09] <ChaosInMind> ikonia: ftp.redhat.com in firefox does not ask me for a username.
[20:09] <ChaosInMind> It goes straight to the directory.
[20:10] <ChaosInMind> ftp://ftp.redhat.com/ in firefox and chrome
[20:11] <pfifo> can someone running raring please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list for me
[20:13] <minimec> pfifo: That might help too. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:15] <OerHeks> ChaosInMind, oke, maybe guest_enable=YES ?
[20:16] <pfifo> minimec: ok that works
[20:16] <gregor_> floodbot1?
[20:16] <gregor_> LOL
[20:24] <ledtc> Hello, you guys know any program that creates like "installers" for Ubuntu? Beacuse i cant do apt-get on the server ?
[20:25] <aboasamah> I have a problem in lunching a program in ubuntu 12.04
[20:25] <pfifo> !aptoncd | ledtc perhaps an offline install
[20:25] <pfifo> !details | aboasamah
[20:26] <aboasamah> the program is GNU radio
[20:26] <aboasamah> Cannot import gnuradio.
[20:26] <aboasamah> Is the python path environment variable set correctly?
[20:26] <aboasamah>     All OS: PYTHONPATH
[20:26] <aboasamah> Is the library path environment variable set correctly?
[20:26] <aboasamah>     Linux: LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[20:26] <FloodBot1> aboasamah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <ledtc> !offline
[20:27] <jrib> aboasamah: why aren't you using gnuradio from the repository?
[20:31] <ledtc> Guys im not realyl finding any smoth way to do this, Best/easiest way to install Curl on php5 in ubuntu Offline ?
[20:33] <reisio> ledtc: you have an offline web server?
[20:33] <pfifo> ledtc: just get the deb file and install with dpkg, i doubt php5-curl needs anything as far as deps go, maybe libcurl
[20:33] <ledtc> Do i need to do any configuring after installing ?
[20:34] <ledtc> I tried installing with dpkg but id did aint work of the bat
[20:34] <pfifo> ledtc: no, dpkg handles it
[20:34] <Ponch0> hey ubuntu, I need to downgrade to older version of automake, how can I accomplish that?
[20:34] <nixnine> anyone know how to download videos from an ipad?
[20:34] <reisio> nixnine: from?
[20:34] <reisio> nixnine: probably be simplest to use some bluetooth/s/ftp transfer app
[20:34] <reisio> nixnine: over wireless
[20:35] <nixnine> I'm not familiar with that
[20:35] <ledtc>  Errors were encountered while processing:  php5-curl
[20:35] <pfifo> ledtc: what errors?
[20:35] <reisio> nixnine: go to app store, search for sftp
[20:35] <reisio> nixnine: if that doesn't give any results, search for ftp
[20:35] <ledtc> pfifo how i isolate to the errors ?
[20:35] <ledtc> wall of text
[20:35] <reisio> nixnine: sftp is basically just ftp via ssh, so it works with sshd running on your Ubuntu, same user login, same pass
[20:35] <aboasamah> First Sorry that is my first time in an IRC channel:::::
[20:35] <aboasamah> I have installed gnuradio on ubuntu 12.04 and the problem when lunching the software it gives the following error:
[20:35] <aboasamah> Cannot import gnuradio.
[20:35] <aboasamah> Is the python path environment variable set correctly?
[20:35] <aboasamah>     All OS: PYTHONPATH
[20:35] <FloodBot1> aboasamah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:35] <aboasamah> Is the library path environment variable set correctly?
[20:36] <pfifo> ledtc: pastebin the wall of errors
[20:36] <reisio> aboasamah: please stop being quiet!
[20:37] <ledtc> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/eHxgrAqr
[20:38] <ledtc> pfifo  5.3.10-1ubuntu3  =/=  5.3.10-1ubuntu3.7 ?
[20:39] <pfifo> ledtc: get an older php5-curl, or update your lamp stack (good luck doing that while offline)
[20:39] <ledtc> i need older Curl ?
[20:39] <aboasamah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228277/
[20:40] <pfifo> ledtc: I may have gotten it backwards, im assuming your like me and would have gotten the latest greatest php5-curl
[20:42] <ledtc> pfifo " php5-curl depends on php5-common (= 5.3.10-1ubuntu3); however:   Version of php5-common on system is 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.7." ... sound like i need a newer PHP-common ?
[20:42] <ChaosInMind> Are you using aptitude?
[20:42] <ledtc> pfifo , wait dafuq, i need and new php curl
[20:43] <ikonia> ledtc: tone down the language please, there is just zero need for it
[20:43] <pfifo> ledtc: it says it wants an older php5-common... 5.3.10-1ubuntu3 came before 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.7
[20:44] <ledtc> pfifo, so eather i find a newer Curl, or i downgrade my php-common
[20:44] <pfifo> ledtc: refresh my memory, why arent we just connecting the machine to the internet again/
[20:44] <xtriz> when installing kubuntu desktop it will install all the default setting that kubuntu has right ?
[20:44] <ledtc> pfifo its VM host, set the VPN network
[20:44] <ledtc> VPN network do'nt have internet
[20:45] <aboasamah> I am sorry guys that is my first time in an IRC channel my problem as in the URL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228277/
[20:45] <reisio> xtriz: yup
[20:45] <pfifo> ledtc: yes you need a newer curl, look in the 'updates' repo
[20:46] <pfifo> ledtc: downgrading (or upgrading) php5 while offline will require you to download and install hundreds of millions of packages... i dont reccommend it
[20:46] <ledtc> pfifo  I would agree. How'ever will "php5-curl_5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8_i386.deb" work ?
[20:46] <ledtc> its 3.8 not 3.7
[20:47] <pfifo> ledtc: I dont know
[20:47] <ikonia> you'll find it wants other dependencies
[20:48] <pfifo> you know which ones? Im guessing libcurl will be the only one
[20:49] <ledtc> i already got libcurl :)
[20:49] <ikonia> it probably won't to it without the other php modules being in sync
[20:49] <pfifo> ledtc: might have to upgrade it though
[20:49] <aboasamah> any answer please:::::::::::
[20:49] <pfifo> ikonia: im hoping to get the right php5-curl to match the existing mods
[20:50] <ikonia> pfifo: I've not been following, but why is this not being done online ?
[20:50] <ledtc>  php5-curl depends on php5-common (= 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8); however:   Version of php5-common on system is 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.7.
[20:50] <ikonia> pfifo: if it's a web server, it standard to reason it will have internet connection
[20:51] <pfifo> ikonia: its on a virtual machine, have no idea why thats preventing it from getting to the internet, but thats the info I got
[20:51] <aboasamah> any answer please:::::::::::
[20:51] <ikonia> aboasamah: stop demanding an answer
[20:51] <ikonia> aboasamah: it doesn't inspire people to help you,
[20:51] <pfifo> ledtc: now your curl is too new
[20:51] <aboasamah> hahaha Sorry
[20:52] <ikonia> aboasamah: I'm not laughing, you've had multiple warnings and you keep annoying people to the point they don't help you
[20:52] <ledtc> pfifo , well *curse-word*
[20:53] <aboasamah> I apologized and I said that is my first time in an IRC channel I do not know the rules
[20:53] <ikonia> ledtc: grow up
[20:53] <ikonia> !guidelines | aboasamah
[20:54] <pfifo> ledtc: well I think your on the right track now
[20:57] <ledtc> pfifo finaly managed to isolate the right verison,  thx man. People like you is why i come to irc :)!
[20:59] <fishscene> gretchenp: Right-click > Properties > (one of the tabs) > [] Mark as executable
[21:00] <fishscene> Ignore me. Stupid irc program showed a conversation from yesterday *changes settings*
[21:00] <reisio> stupid program
[21:01] <fishscene> …and user :P
[21:01] <pfifo> fishscene: the simple fix here is to never log off IRC
[21:02] <andry> hm
[21:02] <andry> strange .. i had to install intels "official driver" from 01.org to get hw accel working in any player
[21:02] <andry> else i get a green screen
[21:03] <fishscene> That'd be easier if the library never closed. :) But anyway, I believe I fixed my timestamp issue. \:D/  Now I need to finish downloading ubuntu so I can get back to testing ubuntu-touch.
[21:03] <MoPac> Hello. I'm wondering if it's possible to create a folder that displays symlinks (or hardlinks, I guess) to whatever is in the folders at the end of a $PATH ?
[21:03] <litropy> What's the latest and greatest drop-down terminal?
[21:03] <kostkon> litropy, a moment
[21:03] <MoPac> It would be nice to create a drawer that had every program executable displayed in it...
[21:04] <andry> litropy, i tried guake once
[21:04] <andry> was nice
[21:04] <pfifo> MoPac: 'find' can do that
[21:04] <MoPac> !find
[21:04] <MoPac> ack, how does that ubottu info command work?
[21:04] <pfifo> MoPac: but... were talking like 3000 programs on my system, maybe more on yours
[21:05] <litropy> kostkon, k
[21:05] <pfifo> !info find-utils
[21:05] <pfifo> !info find
[21:05] <litropy> andry, k, will consider
[21:06] <njsg> MoPac: well, at least on gentoo the default behavior of dmenu is to build a list of all executables you can run from path
[21:06] <njsg> let me see if I can find how does that happen
[21:06] <andry> !info findutils
[21:06] <MoPac> pfifo: I know it would be a lot; and maybe I would want to pare it down to a smaller set of folders. But even after  being halfway migrated to Ubuntu from Windows for over a year, I still have the problem of not understanding where most of my program files actually are and wasting lots of time searching
[21:06] <pfifo> MoPac: find is built into your system, just run 'man find' from the terminal
[21:06] <kostkon> litropy, you said latest and greatest sooo http://iloveubuntu.net/advanced-terminal-final-term-received-another-significant-performance-improvements
[21:06] <MoPac> pfifo: thanks
[21:06] <maximus2> i have a question(anybody that is involved in jackass 1;1.5;2;2.5;3;and 3.5)
[21:07] <reisio> maximus2: probably somebody is, or else it wouldn't exist, whatever it is
[21:07] <maximus2> yes it exsist
[21:07] <njsg> MoPac: "stest -flx $PATH | sort -u"
[21:07] <reisio> maximus2: I figured it did, since you were talking about it
[21:07] <pfifo> MoPac: try building LFS, it will show you where programs are, tell you why you have every single one of them, and teach you how to get more information about them
[21:08] <litropy> kostkon, does it drop down?
[21:08] <MoPac> pfifo: Sorry, but with all the installation and config problems I've had that sounds like a nightmare...
[21:08] <kostkon> litropy, no, but it has a lot of effects
[21:08] <andry> for a quick search i prefere locate (but you need to updatedb, or wait for it do update via cron)
[21:09] <MoPac> njsg: is that command part of dmenu?
[21:09] <litropy> kostkon, thanks; appreciated.
[21:09] <andry> at least i think cron does it for mlocate
[21:09] <maximus2> well do they make the jackass movies with wee man anymore
[21:09] <reisio> yeah
[21:09] <njsg> MoPac: it is provided as a wrapper script in gentoo, give me a second
[21:09] <reisio> maximus2: try #entertainment
[21:09] <litropy> kostkon, actually, it does. Nice.
[21:10] <kostkon> litropy, oh nice then. also, the standard suggestion is quake, but there is also tilda
[21:10] <kostkon> guake*
[21:10] <litropy> kostkon, thx
[21:10] <kostkon> np
[21:11] <njsg> MoPac: it is provided as dmenu_run by the dmenu upstream
[21:11] <reisio> apt-file is your buddy
[21:11] <njsg> MoPac: so it should be available if you have dmenu, I guess
[21:12] <MoPac> njsg: So will that spit out a list of files at the end of $PATH, and then I paste them in a script to make symlinks in a folder? Or is there a shortcut to making a folder that has all the links made?
[21:13] <njsg> it just generates the list, making symlinks will be a bit more difficult, so yeah, maybe something with find is easier, as it'll be just one run
[21:13] <MoPac> njsg: [reading up on dmenu] Not sure I actually want to install a different window manager in order to work around this; thanks, though
[21:14] <njsg> dmenu should be independent from any window manager
[21:14] <njsg> it just happens that some window managers are dmenu-compatible
[21:14] <njsg> as in, it takes a part of the screen that'd not be in use by applications
[21:14] <MoPac> njsg: ah
[21:14] <AGormlessUser> After installing gnome-shell, gdm, gnome-core, and the like, I still don't see Pictures/Downloads/Videos/etc. in my home folder.  Some elements of the Gnome desktop environment rely on these folders' existence.  Simply creating the folders does not seem to have the intended effect.  Is there some additional package I should be installing?
[21:14] <njsg> dwm and i3wm are two of them (I actually think dwm is the one dmenu comes from)
[21:14] <AGormlessUser> Ah, jesus, that was longer than I thought.  Sorry.
[21:14] <MoPac> On a related note, I seem to have derped and forgotten how to manage what appears in the left-hand menu of nautilus
[21:15] <nick1> Hey I'm trying to install ubuntu so i can dual boot with windows 8. I am getting an error that I believe is associated with the fact that it's UEFI boot. The full text of the error is here: http://pastebin.com/4UeX8kiG
[21:15] <nick1> Can anyone help me get this installed?
[21:16] <OtsegoWeb> #wordpress
[21:16] <JZA_> first of it gets very slow sometimes, for no apparent reason.
[21:16] <JZA_> hi I have installed xubuntu on my SDcard but I have some issues
[21:16] <JZA_> I did dmesg and I got this Updating information on frequency 5580 MHz for a 20 MHz width channel with regulatory rule
[21:16] <JZA_> not sure if its related.
[21:17] <compdoc> there sure are a lot of updates for 12.04 lately. busy ppl at Canonical
[21:17] <reisio> at canonical, right
[21:18] <nick1> Anyone want to help me with an install?
[21:19] <OerHeks> wubi and windows 8 are no  go, nick1
[21:19] <OerHeks> !wubi
[21:21] <nick1> OerHeks thanks for that. I downloaded from /desktop/download though. Thought I had amd version instead of wubi. Am I in the right place?
[21:22] <OerHeks> !uefi | nick1 make space with windows 8 diskmanager and install it side by side, you need this page to handle UEFI
[21:26] <nick1> thanks for the link OerHeks... did not realize installing w/ win8 would be such a lengthy process
[21:26] <njsg> nick1: the most important part of using UEBI boot is 1) booting the install medium with UEBI and 2) realizing that UEBI is a standard and that some implementations do suck
[21:26] <njsg> s/EBI/EFI/g -.-
[21:27] <njsg> I've installed ubuntu once, and it was in a HP laptop. it required a partition to be marked "bootable" *and* for some reason it still needed me to "repair" the UEFI boot from a live cd
[21:28] <Ponch0> hello, I installed automake1.14 and compiled from source but instead I need to use automake1.13.4, how do I reverse the install ?
[21:31] <litropy> I went with guake, thx all
[21:32] <nick1> so after reading that... still confused haha. I boot from a liveUSB and then how do I install to hard drive?
[21:36] <Deas> can anyone direct me towards a guide or similar to how you make a persistant Ubuntu USB
[21:36] <Deas> all guides i find is bullshit
[21:36] <Deas> or out of date
[21:36] <njsg> nick1: the liveUSB will start (or have an option to start) the installation process
[21:37] <njsg> nick1: so you boot from the liveUSB, and you pick the option to install ubuntu to the hard disk
[21:37] <njsg> it should then even detect your current windows install and offer as one of the options "install side-by-side"
[21:37] <nick1> oh really... that didn't happen the first time i did this
[21:38] <njsg> nick1: (almost?) all linux systems are installed from live CD/USB/... nowadays
[21:38] <nick1> let me try again and report back
[21:38] <nick1> so but do i need to repartition my hard drive first or should i be okay?
[21:39] <njsg> Deas: if you have the time for reading on the technologies behind it and you want to do that, I strongly recommend looking for docs on knoppix. knoppix is *the* reference live cd, I think it was where the modern idea of "linux out of a CD" started, with plans to allow you to keep data on a USB pendrive
[21:40] <Deas> njsg: sounds intressting
[21:40] <Tylertwo> nick1, you can either repartition first or do it during the install. Either way there's some risk of losing data.
[21:41] <nick1> mm i see.
[21:42] <Deas> njsg_:  any hints towards where i should start reading?
[21:43] <pixiebit> http://goo.gl/opbNne
[21:44] <GZA_AFk> Deas: u can use unetbootin to create one
[21:45] <Deas> GZA-Genius: Tried that, does'nt keep changes
[21:46] <GZA-Genius> Deas:  what do u mean by not keeping changes, specifics, also did u set the amount of persistent data in unetbootin prior to creating?
[21:46] <GZA-Genius> Deas: I know they seem like dumb questions but they must be asked ;)
[21:47] <Deas> GZA-Genius: i set the persistent size to 8gb, as it claims that, if i put higher value then it has space for, it will use w/e is left on the drive
[21:49] <GZA-Genius> Deas: I may be wrong but i believe the max you can use is 4096MB
[21:50] <smiths> ssh root@162.243.39.205:fred2fred
[21:51] <foofoobar> Hi. So I executed a bash script which did something it should not do and which moved some files outside the directory it is working in
[21:51] <reisio> foofoobar: bummer
[21:51] <foofoobar> For the future: Can I "bind" all things I execute to a specific directory?
[21:51] <bekks> foofoobar: So which script was it?
[21:51] <foofoobar> bekks, own script
[21:51] <reisio> foofoobar: you could make a chroot jail
[21:51] <bekks> foofoobar: Show us.
[21:51] <GZA-Genius> Deas:  http://goo.gl/2TIDjM http://goo.gl/ETKFEM   First is docs from Ubuntu, second is unetbootin wiki, for better and definite answers i can only go by my experience I am def not an expert
[21:52] <smiths> ssh root@162.243.39.205 -password fred2fred
[21:52] <reisio> smiths: don't you have anything better to do than spam?
[21:52] <GZA-Genius> Deas: depending on what type of setup you are looking for the answers should be in there for you.
[21:53] <foofoobar> bekks, http://pastebin.com/TbEdQVHR
[21:54] <bekks> foofoobar: your script could have been a oneliner ;)
[21:54] <GZA-Genius> Deas: you also have to pay attention to where you save stuff to and make sure you are saving to the persistent fs and not something loaded in ram that you will loose upon reboot. Sorry for not being much help but the answer to all your questions will be in those links.
[21:54] <foofoobar> bekks, this script does strange things!
[21:55] <bekks> foofoobar: Because you did some strabge things using ls and did not transfer the instructions given in #ubuntu-de
[21:55] <foofoobar> bekks, ls -d -- */ lists me all directories, whats wrong with this?
[21:55] <foofoobar> And what instructions did I not follow?
[21:56] <bekks> foofoobar: find . -type d ...
[21:56] <Deas> GZA-Genius: it's ok, better then nothing i suppose
[21:56] <njsg> Deas: no specific idea, sorry, the first thing that comes to my mind is an article in an old brazilian magazine about how to customize knoppix, which is not even close to what you want
[21:56] <foofoobar> bekks, whats bad with ls -d -- */ ?
[21:56] <Hatter> Anyone familiar with running scripts in rtmpdump on linux? I have a script i run on windows that i dont know how to modily or run on linux
[21:56] <njsg> Deas: right now I'm a bit busy with homework, sorry
[21:57] <njsg> foofoobar: ls only operates on the current directory, and even with -R the output is not the same as find
[21:57] <Deas> njsg: no worries, no rush
[21:57] <brainacid> Hello room... gsettings is not working when I want to set my background image. any ideas thansk
[21:57] <foofoobar> njsg, I only want to operate in the current directory
[21:57] <bekks> foofoobar: Then use find.
[21:57] <brainacid> im on ubuntu 12, using xmonad for wm
[21:58] <njsg> brainacid: gsettings is likely gnome only
[21:58] <foofoobar> bekks, yeah a "find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d" works too
[21:58] <foofoobar> bekks, something else wrong with the script?
[21:58] <njsg> brainacid: if you want to use the gnome desktop (the one nautilus starts when started), you can use gsettings (I suppose) but you need to start the desktop manually
[21:58] <newboy> Installing ubuntu for first time, can anyone link me to documents explaining home folder encryption before i choose it in insalation?
[21:58] <foofoobar> Before I execute this thing again I want to "jail" it to the folder I'm executing it in to
[21:58] <foofoobar> I will read about chroot
[21:58] <njsg> brainacid: but if you want to use only xmonad, look into programs to set the X background
[21:58] <bekks> foofoobar: double usage of your ls -d, which is unnecessary.
[21:58] <brainacid> njsg, true
[21:59] <njsg> brainacid: it *may* be along the lines of setbackground, or setbg, I don't remember
[21:59] <brainacid> njsg, thanks
[21:59] <foofoobar> bekks, I'll replace it with the find one
[21:59] <bekks> foofoobar: Then you will have a double find, which is unnecessary.
[22:00] <njsg> brainacid: there's one xsetbg on my system
[22:00] <brainacid> xsetroot wont do images
[22:00] <foofoobar> bekks, how should I do it without this?
[22:00] <foofoobar> I dont want to remove all folders, just the folders in the subfolders
[22:00] <njsg> brainacid: reading the docs: xsetroot seems to be more for colors and small bit patterns, xsetbg is for images
[22:01] <njsg> xsetbg is likely a modified version of xloadimage that uses the "root window"
[22:01] <alami> i have started netbeans ide and now it's weired, how can i restart it?
[22:01] <njsg> brainacid: (the "root window" *is* your "desktop background")
[22:01] <bekks> foofoobar: you are in a loop on all directories (the first for...) - you dont need to loop again using your second for.
[22:02] <foofoobar> bekks, I'm in a loop in the parent folder
[22:02] <foofoobar> the second find is in the subfolder
[22:02] <anonymous> Hello Anonymous !!!!
[22:02] <foofoobar> in the folder I changed with the "cd" to
[22:02] <bekks> foofoobar: I dont see a reason for two loops.
[22:02] <njsg> anonymous is actually allowed as a nick? :-|
[22:02] <bekks> foofoobar: It can be done in one loop.
[22:02] <foofoobar> bekks, how?
[22:03] <alami> hello, i have opned netbeans, but it's weired, how can i restart it from terminal?
[22:03] <brainacid> 10-4 got it ... downloading it now...thanks a lot
[22:03] <bekks> foofoobar: But not using a second loop. After moving your images, just test if $dir is empty. If it is, cd .. and remove the empty $dir
[22:04] <AdBlocker> Hey all. I have had something that's pretty obnoxious start happening on my computer recently. It appears to be completely random; but when I am using my computer the screen freezes and I cannot interact with the computer anymore. For instance lets say I am watching a video, well the video will continue to play (the audio) but the screen is frozen. However, sometimes I am able to move my mouse
[22:04] <AdBlocker> and other times (when I cannot move it at all) the mouse dissapears.
[22:04] <brainacid> xloadimage depends on libtiff4 (>> 3.9.5-3~); however:
[22:04] <brainacid>   Version of libtiff4 on system is 3.9.5-2ubuntu1.5.
[22:04] <njsg> AdBlocker: nvidia video card?
[22:05] <AdBlocker> njsg: yes
[22:05] <njsg> brainacid: ubuntu does not have xloadimage on the repositories?
[22:05] <njsg> AdBlocker: it's the kind of breakages I'd expect from nVidia cards (more on the proprietary driver but also a bit on the free)
[22:05] <njsg> dunno if there's any specific problem with a fix, though
[22:05] <brainacid> nope
[22:06] <brainacid> take it bak
[22:06] <brainacid> got it done
[22:07] <vmz> I was editing '/etc/sudoers' with 'visudo' command under root on VPS with Ubuntu 13.04. And then I accidently stopped the session without saving. Now when I type 'visudo' I get 'visudo: /etc/sudoers busy, try again later'. I’ve tried to do 'rm /etc/sudoers.tmp' and '/etc/.sudoers.tmp.swp' but it didn’t work. How could I revert it back to the normal state where I can edit '/etc/sudoers' width 'visudo'?
[22:07] <alami> hello, i have opned netbeans, but it's weired, how can i restart it from terminal?
[22:07] <njsg> alami: you can't. you can kill it and start it again
[22:07] <reisio> vmz: pgrep -l sudo; pgrep -l $(basename $EDITOR)
[22:08] <njsg> alami: either you find the PID from "ps", say, "ps aux", or you use pkill with the name of the eclipse binary
[22:08] <alami> njsg: yes but to excute kill, i need the prossess number
[22:08] <njsg> pkill should kill all the processes with that name, I think
[22:09] <rpk> If I have a desktop running ubuntu 12.04 with 8 gb ram, will I experience any performance issues in a vm if I give 7gb to the vm?
[22:09] <bekks> Yes.
[22:10] <faugusztin> vmz: did you tried fg ? maybe your vi is just running as background process. or just kill that vi process
[22:10] <reisio> rpk: "issues"?
[22:10] <reisio> you'll have less ram, but it'll still work
[22:10] <MonkeyDu1t> vmz  type    jobs   to find out if anything is runing in the background
[22:10] <rpk> reisio: I'm forwarding the vm's os over X11, I never touch ubuntu
[22:10] <bekks> rpk: you will have less RAM, and your system will become slower.
[22:10] <reisio> rpk: you'll have less ram, but it'll still work
[22:10] <thumbee> any1 use an auto tab completer in ubuntu ??
[22:11] <rpk> virtual box suggests that I reserve 2gb for ubuntu host, and I would experience performance issues otherwise
[22:11] <vmz> faugusztin: I’m noob and tried only what I googled so far...
[22:11] <bekks> rpk: Then follow that suggestion.
[22:11] <gulag2013> i'm not even sure, if VM would let you do it. It will nag you not to. Not sure if Virtualbox will stop you.
[22:11] <vmz> MonkeyDu1t: it says '[1]+  Stopped                 visudo'
[22:11] <reisio> rpk: that's probably just boilerplate
[22:11] <bekks> gulag2013: It will not sop you.
[22:12] <rpk> reisio: I think so, I wonder if it assumes I still want to do things in the ubuntu host
[22:12] <reisio> rpk: they're just trying to keep newbies from complaining
[22:12] <reisio> rpk: if your host works, it works
[22:12] <reisio> restrict its RAM as much as you like
[22:12] <gulag2013> Okay, that answers that. I still think 1 gig a ram is very tight, you couldn't allow 1.5 for the system?
[22:12] <reisio> 1gig is plenty for GNOME
[22:13] <reisio> especially if you aren't even using it
[22:13] <rpk> gulag2013: I could, but I'm already hurting in my virt for ram
[22:13] <rpk> (developing) - unfortunately can't run the virt os directly
[22:13] <gulag2013> That is the missing puzzle piece, gnome would use less. I will learn to ask more questions before hand.
[22:14] <reisio> with a gig? Nah it'd still work
[22:14] <reisio> just not as fast
[22:14] <reisio> but he said he isn't even going to be actively using the host, so it's academic
[22:15] <rpk> reisio: thanks, i'll see how it works out, just didn't want to end up with stability issues in case I need to do any work this weekend
[22:17] <alami> njsg: well try kill 13650, and then ps aux | grep netbeans, i get a new PID, how to kill them all?
[22:17] <nick23> hi so I ran USB to install Ubuntu
[22:17] <njsg> alami: pkill netbeans
[22:18] <nick23> it didn't detect any previous OS so I chose "something else"
[22:18] <nick23> now I not sure where to install
[22:18] <alami> njsg still have open
[22:18] <njsg> alami: "ps aux | grep java" and see if anything suspicious comes up
[22:19] <njsg> it may have a different process name, dunno
[22:19] <vmz> How to kill stopped job? I have one "[1]+  Stopped                 visudo", but when I type "kill %1" - it not killing it
[22:19] <xilver_> which dist of ubuntu are you guys running?
[22:19] <bekks> vmz: "fg", then ctrl-c
[22:20] <foofoobar> bekks, I think its not possible without 2 loops
[22:20] <bekks> foofoobar: I know it is.
[22:20] <bekks> foofoobar: Its actually not a big deal, and I told you how to do it.
[22:20] <mrrcp> anyone here using screen + irssi with ubuntu?
[22:20] <bekks> mrrcp: Why?
[22:21] <xilver_> too all:  which dist of ubuntu are you guys running?
[22:21] <foofoobar> bekks, I think you dont have the correct folder structure in mind
[22:21] <bekks> !poll | xilver_
[22:21] <foofoobar> bekks, I dont want to remove the album folder
[22:21] <foofoobar> I want to remove the folder sinside the album folder
[22:21] <mrrcp> bekks: i am having issues with the beep
[22:21] <bekks> foofoobar: I have the same folder structure in mind you presented in your pastebin in #ubuntu-de
[22:21] <mrrcp> notify
[22:21] <mrrcp> its not working
[22:21] <nick1> can anyone help me finish my install? I'm not sure how to install alongside windows
[22:22] <mrrcp> !dual
[22:22] <xilver_> ok will check poll. I know people will choose different dist and versions for many reasons
[22:22] <foofoobar> bekks, album1/IMG1 album1/IMG2 album2/IMG1 album2/IMG2. The first find loops over the parent folders (album1,album2,...)
[22:22] <vmz> bekks, MonkeyDu1t, faugusztin: Thanks!
[22:22] <mrrcp> !dualboot
[22:22] <foofoobar> to remove the IMG1, IMG2, etc. folders I need a second loop
[22:23] <bekks> foofoobar: I know what your script does.
[22:23] <bekks> foofoobar: And I will keep telling you that it is possible with one loop.
[22:23] <nick1> h
[22:23] <xilver_> Anyone with exp. of bumblebee with optimus?
[22:23] <bekks> !anyone | xilver_
[22:23] <foofoobar> then show it, I cant think how
[22:23] <xilver_> my nvidia gave up on me here
[22:24] <bekks> foofoobar: I toold you how to do it - and I will not code it for you.
[22:24] <xilver_> ok, sorry first time here. will try the things you've posted
[22:24] <foofoobar> bekks> foofoobar: But not using a second loop. After moving your images, just test if $dir is empty. If it is, cd .. and remove the empty $dir << $dir is the album dir, I dont want to remove this
[22:24] <xilver_> !details
[22:24] <foofoobar> I want to remove the dirs where the images are placed in
[22:24] <xilver_> !details bumblebee
[22:25] <xilver_> !poll
[22:27] <nick1> right so when i go to install ubuntu i need help to partition the hard drive
[22:28] <nick1> my only options are to erase and install ubuntu or something else.
[22:28] <LyzardKing> I need help with the display backlight
[22:28] <nick1> When Ichoose something else, I'm not sure how to work this menu of "add partition table" "add" "change" "delete" "revert" etc.
[22:29] <LyzardKing> on a toshiba the fn keys change /sys/class/backlight/toshiba/brightness, but the actual backlight is controlled by /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/backlight
[22:30] <nick1> someone please highlight me if you have any ideas
[22:30] <mrrcp> .join #irssi
[22:31] <LyzardKing> anybody?
[22:31] <Tylertwo> nick1, you want to duel boot windows and ubuntu, right?
[22:31] <mrrcp> Soung + irssi anyone?
[22:31] <mrrcp> sound
[22:33] <will___> qQQ
[22:33] <justanotheruser> how do I permanently add a nameserver resolv.conf? please highlight me
[22:33] <iceroot> mrrcp: #irssi
[22:33] <jrib> !resolvconf | justanotheruser
[22:34] <mrundle> test
[22:34] <nick1> yes Tylertwo
[22:34] <Tylertwo> nick1, And you haven't created any free space yet?
[22:34] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228625/.. is my wireless card can work on dual frequency?
[22:34] <fishcooker> i want to make it as AP
[22:35] <nick1> No tylertwo. I thought it would give me the chance in this install wizard. Although that might be the menu I'm in now
[22:35] <otak> mrrcp: do you mean the vbell feature
[22:35] <nick1> Can I add from here or do I need to do it from Windows?
[22:35] <Tylertwo> nick1, Yeah, that's where you are now.
[22:36] <mrrcp> yes
[22:36] <Tylertwo> nick1, I'm not an expert in this, but I have done it once or twice. Try selecting your ntfs partition and clicking "change". Then it will give you an option to resize it?
[22:36] <nick1> So "Add..." or "New Partition Table..."
[22:36] <nick1> Tylertwo:  i see three ntfs partitions listed
[22:37] <nick1> sda1, sda4, and sda5
[22:37] <Tylertwo> nick1, What size are each of them?
[22:37] <mrrcp> it isnt working
[22:37] <mrrcp> otak: do you know how to get it working?
[22:38] <nick1> 2,989, and 8 GB respectively.
[22:38] <nick1> So 989, yes?
[22:38] <LyzardKing> can anyone help with the backlight?
[22:38] <Tylertwo> nick1, right
[22:39] <otak> mrrcp: ctrl-<key> : vbell on
[22:39] <mrrcp> which?
[22:40] <nick1> Right so I hit "Change..." and I need to enter the new partition size in MB, Use as: (is this EFI boot partition?) and to format it or not (do not format, right?)
[22:40] <nick1> Sorry, for all the qs. Just want to make sure I don't erase my hard drive...
[22:41] <Dysfunccction> Hello. I'm having trouble booting.
[22:41] <Dysfunccction> 12.04
[22:42] <Dysfunccction> Hello?
[22:42] <maxb> nick1: If you're currently booted into an Ubuntu liveUSB, it might be best for you to use a command line program to produce a full report on what partitions you already have - you could then put that into a pastebin so that everyone here has a full understanding of what the partition layout you are working with currently is
[22:42] <mrrcp> cp_:
[22:42] <usuario_> oi
[22:43] <maxb> nick1: If you're able to start a terminal, then "sudo parted -l" will probably work to display the partition layout
[22:43] <nick1> okay maxb that sounds like a good plan. What would the command line be?
[22:43] <maxb> (I'm hoping that parted will be included in most live systems)
[22:43] <nick1> what's the keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[22:43] <Dysfunccction> Ctrl+Alt+T
[22:44] <DifficultUser> So, Gnome 3.10's lock screen does not behave correctly for users not listed in the shadow file.  Namely, it does not prompt the user for a password at all.  I use some ldap fanciness for central authentication.  Is there any way to "trick" it into thinking there is a shadow password while using the ldap stuff?
[22:45] <Dysfunccction> So I'm having trouble booting into 12.04.
[22:45] <nick1> maxb, http://pastebin.com/YhuCRgkU
[22:45] <mrrcp> yea this is crap
[22:45] <mrrcp> irssi will not beep or anything for me
[22:46] <DifficultUser> Could probably make my question more terse....
[22:46] <DifficultUser> If nsswitch uses both shadow and ldap, and shadow's attempt at authentication fails, will it fall back to ldap?
[22:46] <DifficultUser> Provided the order in /etc/nsswitch.conf is "shadow ldap"?
[22:50] <Dysfunccction> My Ubuntu 12.04 box is hanging up during boot, so I can't login and use it at all. What should I do?
[22:51] <njsg> maxb: I think nick1 is on gpt
[22:52] <njsg> mrrcp: you can configure irssi and your terminal to beep
[22:52] <nick1> What's that and how do i confirm if I am or not njsg?
[22:52] <njsg> nick1: aren't you the one trying to use UEFI?
[22:52] <maxb> nick1: Right, no free space, so resizing the largest NTFS partition makes sense. Unfortunately I've never used the installer to do this, but my guess would be that any option that calls itself "resize" would be the right one. I do have to give the obligatory warning that backing up data is wise before trying to resize a filesystem.
[22:52] <njsg> nick1: UEFI *requires* GPT, so it's kind of implied
[22:52] <njsg> oh wait, parted
[22:52] <nick1> Uhh
[22:53] <njsg> how did I read that as fdisk :-|
[22:53] <nick1> I'm going to head back to windows, free up some space. Then come back.
[22:53] <maxb> :-)
[22:53] <mrrcp> njsg: say my name
[22:54] <njsg> mrrcp:
[22:54] <mrrcp> nope
[22:54] <Dysfunccction> I'm not able to boot into Ubuntu 12.04.
[22:54] <njsg> I don't remember what the default setting is, lemesee
[22:54] <njsg> mrrcp: I guess you need to do "/set beeps" and see which ones need to be turned on
[22:55] <njsg> mrrcp: if you get that to generate bell beeps, this should then get to your terminal as a bell character, and then it's up to the terminal to effectively ring the bell or not
[22:55] <tozen_> Dysfunccction: check you disk structure with live cd/usb first...
[22:55] <Dysfunccction> I did. It's clean
[22:56] <mrrcp> my install is clean
[22:56] <tozen_> Dysfunccction: r u able to get in recovery mode?
[22:56] <mrrcp> and irssi beeps are turned on
[22:56] <Dysfunccction> Yes.
[22:56] <mrrcp> so
[22:56] <mrrcp> terminal shows the beeps checked
[22:57] <njsg> mrrcp: are you by any chance on a laptop with Intel HDA?
[22:57] <tozen_> Dysfunccction: so pastebin /var/log/bootstrap.log and /var/log/boot.log, lease
[22:57] <mrrcp> yea
[22:57] <tozen_> *please
[22:57] <Dysfunccction> Only problem is that this is the same computer that's having booting issues on the Ubuntu partition. I'm on a windows partition.
[22:57] <mrrcp> how can i tell
[22:57] <mrrcp> i think so
[22:57] <njsg> mrrcp: check alsamixer, see if there's some PC beep / pc speaker there and check if it's muted or not, volume, etc
[22:58] <Dysfunccction> I can't be in windows and ubuntu at the same time, which is an issue.
[22:58] <njsg> mrrcp: there was a bug introduced in intel HDA drivers that makes it so that the speaker (which does the beeps) does not work at all outside of the hda driver
[22:58] <tozen_> Dysfunccction: ...
[22:58] <njsg> and the only way to make it work is by loading a module to have the intel HDA driver handle the beeps too
[22:59] <Dysfunccction> I'll have to get my installation disk and come here later.
[22:59] <mrrcp> set to 00 and up
[22:59] <mrrcp> is there a command to test
[23:00] <mrrcp> ?help
[23:00] <mrrcp> !help
[23:00] <mrrcp> hrm
[23:00] <tozen_> Dysfunccction: ok
[23:00] <njsg> mrrcp: see the rmmod+modprobe listed here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=918659
[23:01] <njsg> mrrcp: try it, it's worth a shot
[23:01] <mrrcp> hmm
[23:02] <njsg> at least on my laptop, I actually found out I had no beep, so there are two problems as of today: one is that the normal pcspkr does not work on some laptops with intel hda, the other is that some distros disable the beep/speaker in intel hda by default
[23:02] <njsg> I am not aware of the default ubuntu setting, though
[23:03] <njsg> this seems to be more of an issue on laptops because on some the speaker *is* built into the intel hda card, it's just exposed as a traditional PC speaker somehow, while on desktops it is likely separate
[23:03] <njsg> (as it has to go to a different speaker, even)
[23:05] <mrrcp> njsg: so thats got to be the issue
[23:05] <njsg> mrrcp: well, I'm not sure, but I guess it is worth a shot
[23:05] <mrrcp> well ill attempt later
[23:05] <mrrcp> thanks for the 411
[23:06] <njsg> mrrcp: it's probably better if you try to just generate a bell from a terminal outside of irssi (echo -e '\b'), just to double-check
[23:06] <mrrcp> oo
[23:06] <mrrcp> 1 sec
[23:06] <njsg> wait, not \b?
[23:06] <njsg> well, echo -e '\007̈́'
[23:06] <njsg> echo -e '\007' (that had a diacritic in the middle)
[23:07] <njsg> \b is backspace, d'oh
[23:07] <DuncanNZ> \a is alert bell
[23:07] <gccster> guys when i boot my laptop it always starts with cpufreq: performance but i want it to start with ondemand (i'm also running indicator-cpufreq ubuntu 13.04) have anyody solved this?
[23:07] <DuncanNZ> type man ascii
[23:07] <mrrcp> nope
[23:07] <mrrcp> doesnt work
[23:08] <mrrcp> so what should i do not
[23:08] <mrrcp> now
[23:09] <njsg> genial: there is probably a kernel commandline setting for that, let's see
[23:10] <mrrcp> njsg: thanks for help..
[23:10] <mrrcp> i gotta go now.. old ladie is calling
[23:10] <njsg> mrrcp: that means your problem is not irssi
[23:10] <Slade-> so I have  version of mono installed.. is there a way i can tell which package it came from?
[23:10] <nick1> right... so I have 250GB of free space now
[23:10] <mrrcp> njsg: just need to figure out wtf
[23:10] <Learn2swim13> anyone familiar with running rtmpdump with a script? I have a script i run in windows and im not sure how to modiy and run it in linux with rtmpdump
[23:11] <Dysfunccction> So I am back
[23:11] <bekks> Learn2swim13: Most likely, you have to re-write it completely to run on linux.
[23:11] <njsg> Learn2swim13: how are you doing things in your windows script?
[23:12] <Learn2swim13> Yes, but as i stated im not sure hot wo modify and run it
[23:12] <nick1> Do I want to use as EFI boot partition?
[23:12] <nick1> Or a file system
[23:12] <bekks> Learn2swim13: re-write it from scratch is what I am talking about.
[23:13] <Learn2swim13> well on windows,  I have rtmpdump thrown in a folder. then i save the script as a .bat file, throw it in the same folder. then i can open the .bat file which opens  rtmpdump and i can download as many streams as i like
[23:13] <njsg> Learn2swim13: find what tool you were using on windows, find how you were giving that tool the information about the RTMP stream, find out how that maps to what rtmpdump needs, convert it
[23:13] <Dysfunccction> So I'm having trouble booting
[23:13] <njsg> Learn2swim13: hmm, you may just need to write an equivalent bash (or other shell) script for that, then, if it already uses rtmpdump
[23:13] <Learn2swim13> i dont know how to modify of run it on linux? so what you just said does not help
[23:14] <njsg> Learn2swim13: I just assumed you had the exact opposite part of the problem, knowing how to convert between tools, not how to write the outer script
[23:14] <njsg> Learn2swim13: a shell programming channel may be more appropriate; I'd start by sharing the current windows script so that someone can outline the blocks to you and tell how that maps to a UNIX shell
[23:15] <nick1> njsg, really appreciate the help so far. Right now I have free space allocated but I'm not sure where to go from here
[23:15] <nick1> Do you know what I should specify for the mount point and the Use as option?
[23:15] <Learn2swim13> well then now i need to find someone i guess
[23:16] <njsg> nick1: are you inside the installation program?
[23:16] <nick1> yes
[23:16] <Dysfunccction> njsg: What were those files I was supposed to pastebin?
[23:16] <njsg> nick1: if you're using only one partition for ubuntu, it should be /
[23:16] <njsg> nick1: also, IIRC the setup had a mode where it could make all these choices for you and just use the free space, but I may be wrong
[23:16] <Learn2swim13> looks like i wont be switching to linux, since i cant do everything i need
[23:16] <njsg> nick1: but yeah, you want one at /, and one swap
[23:17] <nick1> njsg, so i've heard. but it says that it doesn't detect my OS..
[23:17] <njsg> Learn2swim13: with that attitude...
[23:17] <nick1> Use as: swap area
[23:17] <nick1> Mount point: null?
[23:17] <Learn2swim13> well, lol. if i cant run this script easily on linux, then i cant switch.
[23:18] <njsg> nick1: create two: one swap (Smaller, no mount point (yes, null must mean that, I guess), type swap)
[23:18] <njsg> nick1: the other /, some filesystem type, most of the free space
[23:18] <Dysfunccction> What does the script do?
[23:18] <njsg> Learn2swim13: then you can pick a shell, and ask people for help on how to migrate the script to that shell
[23:18] <nick1> is FAT32 typicall filesystem?
[23:18] <njsg> nick1: hell no
[23:18] <rypervenche> Learn2swim13: Scripting on Linux is quite easy. What does your script do?
[23:18] <bekks> nick1: Not for linux.
[23:18] <Learn2swim13> It alows me to download streams through rtmpdump
[23:18] <njsg> nick1: FAT is what you use when you want to make sure your system will lose data in 48 hours
[23:19] <Learn2swim13> as many streams as i like at once from a specific website
[23:19] <njsg> nick1: ext3 is a quite well-tested choice, ext4 has been rising in the last years
[23:19] <rypervenche> Learn2swim13: There is an rtmpdump in my repositories. Is that not what you need?
[23:19] <foofoobar> so, working with folders which have whitespaces in their names in bash is horrible..
[23:19] <njsg> Learn2swim13: also, have a look on youtube-dl (does more than youtube) and get_flash_videos
[23:19] <Learn2swim13> lmao
[23:19] <njsg> foofoobar: IFS=" [line break] "
[23:19] <Learn2swim13> i know how to install rtmpdump
[23:20] <njsg> rypervenche: sigh, read the backlog
[23:20] <Learn2swim13> what i do not know is how to modify my script to run on linux
[23:20] <njsg> rypervenche: not install rtmpdump, but convert a windows script that uses rtmpdump to something that runs on linux
[23:20] <Diamondcite> rtmpdump is an mplayerhq.hu tool to begin with.. The .bat file should be quiet easy to re-write
[23:20] <bekks> Learn2swim13: There is no way to "modify" it. You have to write a completely new script.
[23:20] <njsg> Learn2swim13: at this time it's probably better if you stop mentioning rtmpdump at all and just mention you have a script you need to translate
[23:20] <foofoobar> njsg, I'm trying to do a "for dir in ...; do ...; done" to loop over directories which have whitespaces in their name
[23:20] <Diamondcite> Learn2swim13: If your script private, or do you not mind sharing it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:20] <njsg> foofoobar: find, with -exec
[23:21] <njsg> foofoobar: for a first reply, because that's likely going to help a lot
[23:21] <foofoobar> njsg, I want to write a for-block
[23:21] <bekks> foofoobar: -print0 and use "$dir" WITH the "" afterwards.
[23:21] <njsg> foofoobar: but IFS is the variable holding the filename separators for bash, if you replace it to be a newline, and not a space, it will help
[23:21] <Learn2swim13> i can post it on pastebin, but i will only do that if someone can actually change it and tell me how to run it.
[23:21] <njsg> foofoobar: then use IFS
[23:21] <bekks> foofoobar: use -print for find.
[23:21] <bekks> foofoobar: You dont need to mess with IFS.
[23:22] <nick1> and then so... Device for boot loader installation: do I select where the ext4 filesystem partition is?
[23:22] <Diamondcite> Learn2swim13: If the script it changed, it'll probably be re-written as a bash script, which is ran from a command line usually.
[23:22] <nick1> or do i just select /dev/sda
[23:22] <njsg> foofoobar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_field_separator
[23:22] <Learn2swim13> so are you saying you can help diamondcite?
[23:22] <njsg> foofoobar: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4128235/bash-shell-scripting-what-is-the-exact-meaning-of-ifs-n
[23:23] <Diamondcite> Learn2swim13: I can help in a limited, scope, depending on how complicated a script gets.
[23:23] <thumbee> anyone know why passwordless ssh isn;t working in both directions after i used the "ssh-copy-id"
[23:23] <njsg> nick1: /dev/sda is fine
[23:23] <Learn2swim13> its not complicated really
[23:23] <njsg> Learn2swim13: pastebin it and link it
[23:23] <Learn2swim13> ok, 1 sec
[23:23] <thumbee> i coped the key over . so its passwordless ssh. but ssh'ing back to original source. its not passwordless
[23:23] <njsg> thumbee: does the remote server allow public key authentication?
[23:24] <njsg> thumbee: well, you need to copy id's both ways
[23:24] <njsg> thumbee: you copied your public key part of the key for machine A to machine B, that lets you do A->B
[23:24] <njsg> thumbee: but if you want to do B->A you need to generate a private key at B and do ssh-copy-id (or just copy the public key somehow) to A
[23:24] <nick1> njsg once again thank you for all your help. I think it is either working or deleting everything on my computer, so either way we should be good.
[23:25] <njsg> thumbee: this is effectively public key criptography, you can't have it work both ways if you only have one key pair
[23:25] <Learn2swim13> http://pastebin.com/iw7VCtXJ
[23:25] <Diamondcite> Learn2swim13: Nice and short script.
[23:25] <thumbee> njsg: thank you
[23:25]  * thumbee hands njsg a beer
[23:26] <njsg> nick1: something scares me, though, I don't know if that should be expected for UEFI... UEFI uses boot partitions itself, not MBR; but in the PC BIOS boot scheme, it *is* normal to install the bootloader to a disk device, which means it will go to the MBR
[23:26] <Learn2swim13> it needs to have the same functionality, It alows me to open it as many times as i like, and download as many streams as i want at once.
[23:26] <njsg> nick1: in most cases when some installation procedure in linux asks where to install a bootloader, and you pick an entire disk, it means MBR
[23:26] <nick1> njsg, i dunno what you just said, but if you are scared then I am very scared.
[23:26] <nick1> SHIT!!!
[23:26] <nick1> lol
[23:27] <Learn2swim13> this is the only thing holding me back, from trashing my windows install
[23:27] <rypervenche> Learn2swim13: Check your PM.
[23:28] <Dysfunccction> OKay. I am having issues booting up a previously work installation.
[23:28] <Dysfunccction> *workING
[23:28] <Diamondcite> Learn2swim13: What I am trying to figure out is what "echo ^G" does
[23:28] <JWilmot> windows shit
[23:28] <nick1> my computer is making a loud noise
[23:28] <nick1> this can't be good
[23:28] <nick1> oh god
[23:28] <njsg> thumbee: thanks, I'm actually wondering if I should walk to the fridge and have one :-P
[23:28] <nick1> pls no
[23:28] <FloodBot1> nick1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:29] <Learn2swim13> i honestly dont recall, what that part does
[23:29] <njsg> nick1: you should hear my laptop
[23:29] <nick1> mine only makes loud noises when it is deleting my windows install along with all my data
[23:29] <nick1> !!
[23:30] <njsg> Learn2swim13: ^G is the bell character
[23:30] <njsg> Learn2swim13: so I'd suppose that... bells
[23:30] <njsg> Diamondcite: ^
[23:30] <Diamondcite> njsg: Thank you.
[23:30] <njsg> also works on bash, heh
[23:30] <njsg> (not the echo line, but c-G)
[23:31] <Diamondcite> I don't actually know how to get bash to bell
[23:32] <foofoobar> bekks, how should using find with -print works? when doing this in a for, it's always seperated by space
[23:32] <bekks> foofoobar: -print0
[23:32] <Dysfunccction> I need to get work done on my computer, but my 12.04 box won't boot.
[23:33] <Dysfunccction> echo -e "\a"
[23:33] <Dysfunccction> I think that's it.
[23:33] <Dysfunccction> It might be.
[23:33] <nick1> wish me luck... off to restart
[23:34] <njsg> or control+g
[23:34] <foofoobar> bekks, for dir in $(find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d -print0); do echo "-> $dir"; done # when I do this in a dir which contains two folders: "album1", "album 2", then my output is:
[23:34] <foofoobar> './album' and '2./album1'
[23:34] <Dysfunccction> I really need to get stuff done, but my installation won't boot.
[23:35] <njsg> Dysfunccction: get a live cd and work from it
[23:35] <Dysfunccction> I'm in one now.
[23:35] <njsg> then when you have more time, you can try fixing the problem
[23:35] <Dysfunccction> I'm not sure what I was thinking before.
[23:35] <Dysfunccction> I still have another computer, but it would help to use this one.
[23:36] <skywalk> can we ask for help here? or is there a specific channel for that, thanks.
[23:36] <Tylertwo> skywalk, ask away
[23:36] <trism> foofoobar: use find and -exec: find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d -exec echo "-> {}" \;
[23:37] <Slade-> so I'm trying to follow these instructions to get the new mono.. https://www.meebey.net/posts/mono_3.0_preview_debian_ubuntu_packages/    but when I do apt-cache show mono-complete  it shows the built in version
[23:38] <skywalk> I have a ubuntu as a apache server and virtualbox windows7 box, i made a virtualbox shared folder to the /var/www but i cant edit any file in that shared vbox folder, how can i figure out how to give my windows vbox shared folder permission to write?
[23:38] <Slade-> any suggestions would be appreciated
[23:38] <foofoobar> trism, I'm writing a bash script where I want to have a "for" block so I do not have to put everything in one line
[23:38] <Diamondcite> Learn2swim13: Can you give me a site to point do? I can't test the script without a working site.
[23:38] <Diamondcite> Learn2swim13: If you don't want to make it public a PM works too.
[23:39] <skywalk> i tried many things but it screwed all my permissions, i just reinstall all my setup and i dont want to screw everything and start over again, im looking for suggestions
[23:39] <njsg> why are we using find with exect for a depth of 1?
[23:43] <foofoobar> njsg, you mean me?
[23:44] <nick1> h
[23:44] <nick1> hmm
[23:46] <Tylertwo> how'd it go?
[23:46] <Dysfunccction> So I'm back.
[23:48] <wjtaylor> I am installing ubuntu server 12.04. I hit enter by mistake when asked to install SSH LAMP, etc. Is there a way to have it install these after the install is done?
[23:48] <Dysfunccction> I still need help with booting.
[23:48] <njsg> wjtaylor: definitely yes, I mean, unless server does not include the package manager...
[23:49] <trism> foofoobar: if you want for you'll probably have to modify IFS like: IFS=$'\n'
[23:49] <GZA_AFk> wjtaylor: of course
[23:49] <wjtaylor> njsg: I meant to automaticaly install the lamp, instead of manually installing and configuring
[23:50] <nixnine> Okay.  I have videos on my ipad but need to transfer them to my computer.  How do I do that.  Anyone know?
[23:50] <_0943x> ftp
[23:50] <_0943x> LAN share.etx.
[23:51] <nixnine> I don't quite understand that
[23:52] <Shaddyx> hi guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu server 12.04 x64 on my home server, but i got message "an error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system"
[23:52] <Shaddyx> how can i resolwe this?
[23:54] <Shaddyx> *resolve)
[23:55] <Ponch0> Hey room! I downloaded geany from git, it's testing version, does it matter where I untar the file and install from?
[23:55] <Schalla> Evening!
[23:55] <cgtdk> Ponch0: no
[23:56] <Schalla> When booting the live cd to make a disk-copy of a PGP Encrypted HDD; how can I fight out the exact number? it's always /dev/hda1?
[23:56] <Schalla> It's only a single hdd ofc.
[23:56] <Ponch0> thanks cgtdk!
[23:57] <Dysfunccction> Alright, I'm not able to boot into my 12.04 setup. What should I do?
[23:57] <reisio> Dysfunccction: fix it
[23:58] <Dysfunccction> How?
[23:58] <TheMadDrizzle> Wondering if anyonce can help me with HDMI audio in 13.04?
[23:58] <reisio> Dysfunccction: find out what is broken
[23:58] <TheMadDrizzle> aplay -l doesn't show any hdmi outputs?
[23:58] <reisio> TheMadDrizzle: look around in alsamixer, some things are toggles instead of mixers
[23:58] <Dysfunccction> I'm a beginner, m'Kay?
[23:58] <TheMadDrizzle> Yet in my sound settings I can select the HDMI source as an output
[23:59] <TheMadDrizzle> reisio: Checked alsa already, and everything is unmuted
[23:59] <reisio> Dysfunccction: you'd have to be able to describe specific aspects of your problem's manifestation
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> Dysfunccction, Have you given any details to the channel?
[23:59] <Tylertwo> Schalla, "lsblk" may make it clear.
[23:59] <reisio> TheMadDrizzle: some things are toggles for multiple output routes, not merely mute/unmute channels