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IntuitiveLeaphello studio people.00:44
Unit193Hello Georgia person.00:44
IntuitiveLeapis there anyone on that uses a creative labs sound blaster x-fi extreme 7.1 pci-e sound card and knows how to get it to passthru from the s/pdif in to the analogue out by chance?00:45
IntuitiveLeapwith ubuntu studio of course00:45
IntuitiveLeapcould just be some issue between alsa and pulse i guess, they are not playing nice with this card >.<00:46
Unit193It's evening now, just sit tight and wait a while for someone other than me to show. :)00:48
IntuitiveLeapyea, thats a drill ive done a few times here :)00:50
IntuitiveLeapdo you happen to know/remember how to kill pulseaudio by chance? i did it a long time ago, but i forget00:51
Unit193pulseaudio -k00:54
Unit193It'll auto-respawn though.00:54
Unit193~/.pulse/client.conf  could have   autospawn = no   to disable that.00:55
IntuitiveLeapty unit!01:00
Unit193Sure.01:00
IntuitiveLeapthe respawn is what is getting me, i know how to kill it, it just doesnt really die lol01:00
IntuitiveLeaphmm, i dont have a .pulse folder (not hidden not at all) in my home folder01:03
Unit193Not sure if I created it or not.01:09
Unit193~/.config/pulse/client.conf01:09
Unit193man pulse-client.conf  will tell you the correct location.01:10
IntuitiveLeapur a big help unit, been a while since i messed with any of this.01:13
raven_hi17:26
raven_i am looking for a tool that triggers midi from incoming sounds - some kind of triggering A when giving 440hz sine to it17:26
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zequence__raven: puredata17:55
zequencefrom where is the sine coming?17:56
__ravenzequence, seems to be complex do you know an example project for that?17:56
zequence__raven: I could probably fix a patch for you pretty quickly. It's easy when you know it17:57
zequenceI just need to know the practical scenario a bit17:57
zequenceWhat kind of audio signal is it? What is producing it?17:57
__ravenit would be a non complex signal17:57
__ravenfor example voice or piano17:58
zequenceOk, so it may be that the tone is not exactly at 440, for instance. You might need a little bit of range for it17:59
__ravenyes17:59
zequenceOne way to do it, which probably could be done using plugins is you create an extreme notch for a note using eq, and then a gate for only letting throught the audio over a specific level18:04
zequenceNext, you need something that outputs midi when receiving any audio at all18:04
zequenceI'll make a patch for it in puredata.18:04
__ravenok tnx18:04
zequence__raven: You want the midi event to be a note?18:05
__ravenill try to explore puredata in the meantime18:05
__ravenzequence, a gm note yes18:05
zequence__raven: Do you want note following?18:13
__ravenwhats that?18:14
zequence__raven: Do you want the midi note to match the audio note18:14
__ravenno transposing18:15
studio-user185Hi, uh, I'm running Ubuntu Studio on a live USB but when I installed a driver and restarted my computer I lost all my files18:19
zequencestudio-user185: A live image does not save anything18:19
studio-user185oh18:19
zequenceIt exists only on RAM, when you load the live OS18:19
zequenceWhen you save a file, it is written to RAM only'18:20
studio-user185Any way to make it save everything>18:20
zequenceunless you save it to a physical device18:20
studio-user185well ok18:20
zequenceYou can't install programs and stuff, and save those18:20
studio-user185I just installed it onto my hard drive anyway so bye18:20
zequenceIf you want that, you need to do a full installation18:20
zequenceYou can do that on a usb stick too..18:20
zequence__raven: I'm not only doing this for you, it's been a while since I did some puredata patching. If you can hang on for say max 30 min, I should be done18:23
zequenceIt's fun doing this stuff18:23
__ravenim still here then tnx a lot :)18:23
InsertUsernameHi I just installed Ubuntu Studio to my computer and managed to get on and install my graphics drivers but when I restarted after that it was in the wrong resolution, causing the screen to be blue. I started in my Live USB again to edit the files, following a tutorial, but I need to save the grub for it19:11
InsertUsernameHow can I do this?19:11
zequence__raven: The first thing you need to do is to learn how to just get audio in/out and midi in/out working on puredata19:13
zequence__raven: did you install it?19:13
wilee-nileeInsertUsername, You have to chroot to the install to save grub, and do any changes.19:13
InsertUsername?19:13
InsertUsernameI'm nooby19:13
wilee-nilee!chroot19:13
InsertUsernameexplain how19:13
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot19:13
zequence__raven: I have the patch ready. Gonna put it somewhere..19:14
wilee-nileeInsertUsername, I would but I'm just leaving for coffee with a friend.19:14
InsertUsernameHeres a better explanation: I edited operating system files and I need the changes to take place. How?19:14
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InsertUsernameahh I get it19:16
zequenceInsertUsername: "Operating System files" could be pretty much anything. Doesn't really specifify much, and with most of the changes you make to files, that's all you need to do. With grub, you need to create a new grub.cfg, and you don't do this manually19:17
InsertUsernameso I make my Live USB beleive it is running on my hard drive19:17
InsertUsernameI get it19:17
zequenceYeah19:17
InsertUsernameok19:17
InsertUsernameI got it19:17
wilee-nileeyou have it. ;)19:17
InsertUsernameI'll look at that link from obottu19:17
__ravenzequence, ok where?19:18
InsertUsernameto install dchroot do I do sudo apt-get install dchroot ?19:18
InsertUsernameyep19:19
zequence__raven: Here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228041/19:22
InsertUsernameright uh19:22
InsertUsernamefor the chroot19:22
zequence__raven: save as something ending with .pd19:22
InsertUsernamewhat do I put in /etc/schroot/schroot.conf19:22
__ravenzequence, ok19:22
InsertUsernameI'm not quite sure what this link is saying:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot19:22
zequence__raven: First start puredata. Set audio to jack. Set midi to alsa midi. In qjackctl, you should see pd, both audio and midi19:22
InsertUsernameoh wait I got it19:23
zequence__raven: Then, do an audio check, in the pd menu, Media -> Test audio and midi..19:23
zequence__raven: Make sure it's working19:23
InsertUsernamewait19:23
InsertUsernamewhen creating the chroot19:24
InsertUsernamedo I put this in?19:24
InsertUsername[lucid] description=Ubuntu Lucid location=/var/chroot priority=3 users=your_username groups=sbuild root-groups=root19:24
zequence__raven: Then load my patch. The patch does not enable dps processing (meaning, audio processing is not on by default), but if you did the audio check, it will be on19:24
InsertUsernamewhat do I need to change?19:24
zequence__raven: There's a toggle for DSP on the pd main console19:24
zequence__raven: Also, you can find it under Media -> DSP On/Off19:24
gdoswhich desktop does ubuntu-studio use ? xfce or gnome ?19:25
zequence__raven: To get the patch working, you simply need to connect any audio that you want to trigger, using a jack control app, such as qjackctl19:25
zequence__raven: And of course, connect the pd midi out to whatever it is you want to play19:25
InsertUsernameumm19:25
InsertUsernameGuys?19:25
zequence__raven: Just remembered, there's no off note involved. I should fix that19:26
InsertUsername[lucid] description=Ubuntu Lucid location=/var/chroot priority=3 users=your_username groups=sbuild root-groups=root what do I need to change for creating a chroot19:26
__ravenzequence, ok i have some jack troubles at the moment ill try to fix that19:26
InsertUsernameactual;ly nvm all that stuff I said about chroot19:26
__ravenzequence, i get canvas: no method for 'f'19:27
zequence__raven: From what?19:28
__ravenpd when i load the patch19:28
zequence__raven: Sure you got the whole text? I'm redoing it anyway19:29
zequenceLet me try to get the file too19:29
zequenceWorks here19:30
zequenceI had to copy the text from the browser, as was. Not able to login to launchpad right now, in order to download the file19:30
InsertUsernameUmm ok19:32
InsertUsernameI'm cretaing a chroot19:32
InsertUsernameand this linK:19:33
InsertUsernamehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot19:33
InsertUsernamesays I have to put this ito terminal:19:33
InsertUsernamesudo mount -o bind /proc /var/chroot/proc19:33
InsertUsernamebut then terminal says this:19:33
InsertUsernamesudo mount -o bind /proc /var/chroot/proc19:33
InsertUsernamewoops wrong thing19:33
InsertUsernamesudo mount -o bind /proc /var/chroot/proc19:34
InsertUsernamewrng thing again19:34
InsertUsernamemount: mount point /var/chroot/proc does not exist19:34
InsertUsernameHow can I use my chroot19:35
InsertUsernameoooh nvm I know what the problem is19:35
zequence__raven: I added noteoff capability http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228089/19:36
gdoswhich desktop does ubuntu-studio use ? xfce or gnome ?19:36
zequencegdos: XFCE19:36
__ravenzequence, ok19:36
gdoszequence: thank you.19:37
InsertUsernamewhen I do sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /media/ubuntu-studio/1c60ed61-cf4c-4f08-b312-4183e4b8b326 in terminal is says permission denied19:39
InsertUsernameany way to make it let me do that?19:40
zequence_raven_: I realized I hadn't named everytyhing19:42
InsertUsernameisn't sudo meant to let you do anything?19:42
_raven_zequence i haneed to test it with another system. ill be back in about two hours19:43
InsertUsernamezequence you seem to be the expert here, when I do sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /media/ubuntu-studio/1c60ed61-cf4c-4f08-b312-4183e4b8b326 in terminal is says permission denied19:43
zequence_raven_: Let me get you the final version first19:43
zequence_raven_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228122/19:44
zequenceAdded a couple of comments, and fixed a couple of minor things19:45
_raven_ok tnx are you still here in two hours?19:45
zequence_raven_: I'm always logging, so if you need to ask something, just ask, and I'll get back to you19:46
_raven_ok see you19:47
User1234Hi, so, I just installed Ubuntu Studio today but when I launch it y screen goes blue because it is in the wrong resolution. How can I change the resolution from the grub menu?20:21
zequenceUser1234: You can't20:26
zequenceUser1234: What kind of screen is it?20:26
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User1234its an lcd 1024x76820:34
User1234I' in terminalow20:34
Guest76139Hello world !20:34
User1234when I started up and it blue screened I did Ctr+Alt+F1 to get into terminal20:35
User1234what can I do from here to fix the problem20:35
Guest76139I would to know if MOTU 828mkII is supported by Ardour ? I know that MOTU is not totally Linux friendly20:36
Guest76139I'm installing the Ubuntu 12 version20:39
User1234anyone? I' in terminal, how canI chane sreen resolution from here without using xrandr20:46
User1234sorry about the typos, this keyboard is messed up20:47
_raven_zequence, i still have "canvas: no method for 'f'"22:26
zequence_raven_: Does anything work? did you do an audio/midi check?22:28
zequenceWhen you do that, you open a patch22:28
zequenceThere are examples you can try in Help -> browser22:28
zequenceUnder "Pure Data"22:29
_raven_i reconnected to alsa midi and now i have a input and output midi port22:29
zequenceFor instance, "Audio Examples"22:29
_raven_now i try to test this22:29
_raven_ok how does that work now?22:30
_raven_zequence, i see an input signal now on the fader symbol but i get no midi out of it also with testnote22:34
zequence_raven_: Make sure the testnote and the midi note match22:41
zequence69 is 440 Hz22:41
zequenceProbably not so well described22:42
_raven_zequence, does this patch autotune on frequency change?22:43
zequence_raven_: I don't know what that is22:46
zequenceIt just outputs a bang that is converted into a midi note, whenever the note you specify is detected22:46
_raven_oh sry i meant it should play the note it gets in via audio22:47
zequence_raven_: If you want to see what is behind the controls, right click on them22:47
zequencechoose "open"22:47
zequenceThe square things are something called "abstractions". You can create one by adding an object, and naming it [pd]22:48
zequenceusually, [pd myname]22:48
zequenceThey are just a way to keep stuff organized22:49
zequenceThe object that does the conversion from the audio signal to midi note is called [fiddle~]22:49
zequence"~" means it processes hot signals, as opposed to cold signals22:50
zequencehot signal is audio, cold is data22:50
zequencethick lines are hot, thin lines are cold22:50
zequenceGetting into using puredata may take a couple of months, but once you get through that first threshold, you find you can do whatever you want with it22:51
zequencetakes a bit of time, of course, but things become very flexible22:51
_raven_ok ill try to find that22:53
zequence_raven_: If you ever want to know what is coming out from a cold signal, just create a [print] object, and connect to it22:56
zequence_raven_: The data will show in the pd console window22:56
zequenceThat's how you do "debugging"22:56
zequence_raven_: If you want to learn puredata, I recommend something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtgGol-I4gA23:09
zequenceJust mentioning, since I know how tough it can be to get into it23:09
zequenceAnyway, I'll be around if you have any more questions about the patch23:10

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