[00:44] <IntuitiveLeap> hello studio people.
[00:44] <Unit193> Hello Georgia person.
[00:45] <IntuitiveLeap> is there anyone on that uses a creative labs sound blaster x-fi extreme 7.1 pci-e sound card and knows how to get it to passthru from the s/pdif in to the analogue out by chance?
[00:45] <IntuitiveLeap> with ubuntu studio of course
[00:46] <IntuitiveLeap> could just be some issue between alsa and pulse i guess, they are not playing nice with this card >.<
[00:48] <Unit193> It's evening now, just sit tight and wait a while for someone other than me to show. :)
[00:50] <IntuitiveLeap> yea, thats a drill ive done a few times here :)
[00:51] <IntuitiveLeap> do you happen to know/remember how to kill pulseaudio by chance? i did it a long time ago, but i forget
[00:54] <Unit193> pulseaudio -k
[00:54] <Unit193> It'll auto-respawn though.
[00:55] <Unit193> ~/.pulse/client.conf  could have   autospawn = no   to disable that.
[01:00] <IntuitiveLeap> ty unit!
[01:00] <Unit193> Sure.
[01:00] <IntuitiveLeap> the respawn is what is getting me, i know how to kill it, it just doesnt really die lol
[01:03] <IntuitiveLeap> hmm, i dont have a .pulse folder (not hidden not at all) in my home folder
[01:09] <Unit193> Not sure if I created it or not.
[01:09] <Unit193> ~/.config/pulse/client.conf
[01:10] <Unit193> man pulse-client.conf  will tell you the correct location.
[01:13] <IntuitiveLeap> ur a big help unit, been a while since i messed with any of this.
[17:26] <raven_> hi
[17:26] <raven_> i am looking for a tool that triggers midi from incoming sounds - some kind of triggering A when giving 440hz sine to it
[17:55] <zequence> __raven: puredata
[17:56] <zequence> from where is the sine coming?
[17:56] <__raven> zequence, seems to be complex do you know an example project for that?
[17:57] <zequence> __raven: I could probably fix a patch for you pretty quickly. It's easy when you know it
[17:57] <zequence> I just need to know the practical scenario a bit
[17:57] <zequence> What kind of audio signal is it? What is producing it?
[17:57] <__raven> it would be a non complex signal
[17:58] <__raven> for example voice or piano
[17:59] <zequence> Ok, so it may be that the tone is not exactly at 440, for instance. You might need a little bit of range for it
[17:59] <__raven> yes
[18:04] <zequence> One way to do it, which probably could be done using plugins is you create an extreme notch for a note using eq, and then a gate for only letting throught the audio over a specific level
[18:04] <zequence> Next, you need something that outputs midi when receiving any audio at all
[18:04] <zequence> I'll make a patch for it in puredata.
[18:04] <__raven> ok tnx
[18:05] <zequence> __raven: You want the midi event to be a note?
[18:05] <__raven> ill try to explore puredata in the meantime
[18:05] <__raven> zequence, a gm note yes
[18:13] <zequence> __raven: Do you want note following?
[18:14] <__raven> whats that?
[18:14] <zequence> __raven: Do you want the midi note to match the audio note
[18:15] <__raven> no transposing
[18:19] <studio-user185> Hi, uh, I'm running Ubuntu Studio on a live USB but when I installed a driver and restarted my computer I lost all my files
[18:19] <zequence> studio-user185: A live image does not save anything
[18:19] <studio-user185> oh
[18:19] <zequence> It exists only on RAM, when you load the live OS
[18:20] <zequence> When you save a file, it is written to RAM only'
[18:20] <studio-user185> Any way to make it save everything>
[18:20] <zequence> unless you save it to a physical device
[18:20] <studio-user185> well ok
[18:20] <zequence> You can't install programs and stuff, and save those
[18:20] <studio-user185> I just installed it onto my hard drive anyway so bye
[18:20] <zequence> If you want that, you need to do a full installation
[18:20] <zequence> You can do that on a usb stick too..
[18:23] <zequence> __raven: I'm not only doing this for you, it's been a while since I did some puredata patching. If you can hang on for say max 30 min, I should be done
[18:23] <zequence> It's fun doing this stuff
[18:23] <__raven> im still here then tnx a lot :)
[19:11] <InsertUsername> Hi I just installed Ubuntu Studio to my computer and managed to get on and install my graphics drivers but when I restarted after that it was in the wrong resolution, causing the screen to be blue. I started in my Live USB again to edit the files, following a tutorial, but I need to save the grub for it
[19:11] <InsertUsername> How can I do this?
[19:13] <zequence> __raven: The first thing you need to do is to learn how to just get audio in/out and midi in/out working on puredata
[19:13] <zequence> __raven: did you install it?
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> InsertUsername, You have to chroot to the install to save grub, and do any changes.
[19:13] <InsertUsername> ?
[19:13] <InsertUsername> I'm nooby
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> !chroot
[19:13] <InsertUsername> explain how
[19:14] <zequence> __raven: I have the patch ready. Gonna put it somewhere..
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> InsertUsername, I would but I'm just leaving for coffee with a friend.
[19:14] <InsertUsername> Heres a better explanation: I edited operating system files and I need the changes to take place. How?
[19:16] <InsertUsername> ahh I get it
[19:17] <zequence> InsertUsername: "Operating System files" could be pretty much anything. Doesn't really specifify much, and with most of the changes you make to files, that's all you need to do. With grub, you need to create a new grub.cfg, and you don't do this manually
[19:17] <InsertUsername> so I make my Live USB beleive it is running on my hard drive
[19:17] <InsertUsername> I get it
[19:17] <zequence> Yeah
[19:17] <InsertUsername> ok
[19:17] <InsertUsername> I got it
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> you have it. ;)
[19:17] <InsertUsername> I'll look at that link from obottu
[19:18] <__raven> zequence, ok where?
[19:18] <InsertUsername> to install dchroot do I do sudo apt-get install dchroot ?
[19:19] <InsertUsername> yep
[19:22] <zequence> __raven: Here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228041/
[19:22] <InsertUsername> right uh
[19:22] <InsertUsername> for the chroot
[19:22] <zequence> __raven: save as something ending with .pd
[19:22] <InsertUsername> what do I put in /etc/schroot/schroot.conf
[19:22] <__raven> zequence, ok
[19:22] <InsertUsername> I'm not quite sure what this link is saying:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[19:22] <zequence> __raven: First start puredata. Set audio to jack. Set midi to alsa midi. In qjackctl, you should see pd, both audio and midi
[19:23] <InsertUsername> oh wait I got it
[19:23] <zequence> __raven: Then, do an audio check, in the pd menu, Media -> Test audio and midi..
[19:23] <zequence> __raven: Make sure it's working
[19:23] <InsertUsername> wait
[19:24] <InsertUsername> when creating the chroot
[19:24] <InsertUsername> do I put this in?
[19:24] <InsertUsername> [lucid] description=Ubuntu Lucid location=/var/chroot priority=3 users=your_username groups=sbuild root-groups=root
[19:24] <zequence> __raven: Then load my patch. The patch does not enable dps processing (meaning, audio processing is not on by default), but if you did the audio check, it will be on
[19:24] <InsertUsername> what do I need to change?
[19:24] <zequence> __raven: There's a toggle for DSP on the pd main console
[19:24] <zequence> __raven: Also, you can find it under Media -> DSP On/Off
[19:25] <gdos> which desktop does ubuntu-studio use ? xfce or gnome ?
[19:25] <zequence> __raven: To get the patch working, you simply need to connect any audio that you want to trigger, using a jack control app, such as qjackctl
[19:25] <zequence> __raven: And of course, connect the pd midi out to whatever it is you want to play
[19:25] <InsertUsername> umm
[19:25] <InsertUsername> Guys?
[19:26] <zequence> __raven: Just remembered, there's no off note involved. I should fix that
[19:26] <InsertUsername> [lucid] description=Ubuntu Lucid location=/var/chroot priority=3 users=your_username groups=sbuild root-groups=root what do I need to change for creating a chroot
[19:26] <__raven> zequence, ok i have some jack troubles at the moment ill try to fix that
[19:26] <InsertUsername> actual;ly nvm all that stuff I said about chroot
[19:27] <__raven> zequence, i get canvas: no method for 'f'
[19:28] <zequence> __raven: From what?
[19:28] <__raven> pd when i load the patch
[19:29] <zequence> __raven: Sure you got the whole text? I'm redoing it anyway
[19:29] <zequence> Let me try to get the file too
[19:30] <zequence> Works here
[19:30] <zequence> I had to copy the text from the browser, as was. Not able to login to launchpad right now, in order to download the file
[19:32] <InsertUsername> Umm ok
[19:32] <InsertUsername> I'm cretaing a chroot
[19:33] <InsertUsername> and this linK:
[19:33] <InsertUsername> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[19:33] <InsertUsername> says I have to put this ito terminal:
[19:33] <InsertUsername> sudo mount -o bind /proc /var/chroot/proc
[19:33] <InsertUsername> but then terminal says this:
[19:33] <InsertUsername> sudo mount -o bind /proc /var/chroot/proc
[19:33] <InsertUsername> woops wrong thing
[19:34] <InsertUsername> sudo mount -o bind /proc /var/chroot/proc
[19:34] <InsertUsername> wrng thing again
[19:34] <InsertUsername> mount: mount point /var/chroot/proc does not exist
[19:35] <InsertUsername> How can I use my chroot
[19:35] <InsertUsername> oooh nvm I know what the problem is
[19:36] <zequence> __raven: I added noteoff capability http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228089/
[19:36] <gdos> which desktop does ubuntu-studio use ? xfce or gnome ?
[19:36] <zequence> gdos: XFCE
[19:36] <__raven> zequence, ok
[19:37] <gdos> zequence: thank you.
[19:39] <InsertUsername> when I do sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /media/ubuntu-studio/1c60ed61-cf4c-4f08-b312-4183e4b8b326 in terminal is says permission denied
[19:40] <InsertUsername> any way to make it let me do that?
[19:42] <zequence> _raven_: I realized I hadn't named everytyhing
[19:42] <InsertUsername> isn't sudo meant to let you do anything?
[19:43] <_raven_> zequence i haneed to test it with another system. ill be back in about two hours
[19:43] <InsertUsername> zequence you seem to be the expert here, when I do sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /media/ubuntu-studio/1c60ed61-cf4c-4f08-b312-4183e4b8b326 in terminal is says permission denied
[19:43] <zequence> _raven_: Let me get you the final version first
[19:44] <zequence> _raven_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228122/
[19:45] <zequence> Added a couple of comments, and fixed a couple of minor things
[19:45] <_raven_> ok tnx are you still here in two hours?
[19:46] <zequence> _raven_: I'm always logging, so if you need to ask something, just ask, and I'll get back to you
[19:47] <_raven_> ok see you
[20:21] <User1234> Hi, so, I just installed Ubuntu Studio today but when I launch it y screen goes blue because it is in the wrong resolution. How can I change the resolution from the grub menu?
[20:26] <zequence> User1234: You can't
[20:26] <zequence> User1234: What kind of screen is it?
[20:34] <User1234> its an lcd 1024x768
[20:34] <User1234> I' in terminalow
[20:34] <Guest76139> Hello world !
[20:35] <User1234> when I started up and it blue screened I did Ctr+Alt+F1 to get into terminal
[20:35] <User1234> what can I do from here to fix the problem
[20:36] <Guest76139> I would to know if MOTU 828mkII is supported by Ardour ? I know that MOTU is not totally Linux friendly
[20:39] <Guest76139> I'm installing the Ubuntu 12 version
[20:46] <User1234> anyone? I' in terminal, how canI chane sreen resolution from here without using xrandr
[20:47] <User1234> sorry about the typos, this keyboard is messed up
[22:26] <_raven_> zequence, i still have "canvas: no method for 'f'"
[22:28] <zequence> _raven_: Does anything work? did you do an audio/midi check?
[22:28] <zequence> When you do that, you open a patch
[22:28] <zequence> There are examples you can try in Help -> browser
[22:29] <zequence> Under "Pure Data"
[22:29] <_raven_> i reconnected to alsa midi and now i have a input and output midi port
[22:29] <zequence> For instance, "Audio Examples"
[22:29] <_raven_> now i try to test this
[22:30] <_raven_> ok how does that work now?
[22:34] <_raven_> zequence, i see an input signal now on the fader symbol but i get no midi out of it also with testnote
[22:41] <zequence> _raven_: Make sure the testnote and the midi note match
[22:41] <zequence> 69 is 440 Hz
[22:42] <zequence> Probably not so well described
[22:43] <_raven_> zequence, does this patch autotune on frequency change?
[22:46] <zequence> _raven_: I don't know what that is
[22:46] <zequence> It just outputs a bang that is converted into a midi note, whenever the note you specify is detected
[22:47] <_raven_> oh sry i meant it should play the note it gets in via audio
[22:47] <zequence> _raven_: If you want to see what is behind the controls, right click on them
[22:47] <zequence> choose "open"
[22:48] <zequence> The square things are something called "abstractions". You can create one by adding an object, and naming it [pd]
[22:48] <zequence> usually, [pd myname]
[22:49] <zequence> They are just a way to keep stuff organized
[22:49] <zequence> The object that does the conversion from the audio signal to midi note is called [fiddle~]
[22:50] <zequence> "~" means it processes hot signals, as opposed to cold signals
[22:50] <zequence> hot signal is audio, cold is data
[22:50] <zequence> thick lines are hot, thin lines are cold
[22:51] <zequence> Getting into using puredata may take a couple of months, but once you get through that first threshold, you find you can do whatever you want with it
[22:51] <zequence> takes a bit of time, of course, but things become very flexible
[22:53] <_raven_> ok ill try to find that
[22:56] <zequence> _raven_: If you ever want to know what is coming out from a cold signal, just create a [print] object, and connect to it
[22:56] <zequence> _raven_: The data will show in the pd console window
[22:56] <zequence> That's how you do "debugging"
[23:09] <zequence> _raven_: If you want to learn puredata, I recommend something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtgGol-I4gA
[23:09] <zequence> Just mentioning, since I know how tough it can be to get into it
[23:10] <zequence> Anyway, I'll be around if you have any more questions about the patch