[04:04] <xabster> Hi, xorg-edgers is what exactly? I'm reading a lot of different sites about dota2 issues and some of them mention this
[04:04] <xabster> it's related to graphics, but i don't know if it's nvidia or ati or both
[04:04] <xabster> and what it really does
[04:04] <xabster> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers
[04:04] <xabster> has warnings about broken system...
[04:05] <xabster> not sure i just wanna jump into it
[04:31] <holstein> xabster: ppa's are not officially supported, but that is a PPA for graphics drivers
[04:31] <holstein> !ppa
[04:31] <xabster> yeah, i wrote that
[04:31] <holstein> xabster: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa should tell you everything you need to know
[04:31] <holstein> xabster: you wrote what?
[04:32] <xabster> that it was gfx drivers
[04:36] <holstein> xabster: you'll notice that there are drivers for both nvidia and ati at the link i gave, and maybe that answers the question you have
[04:37] <xabster> yeah, i saw that too, so i guess it
[04:37] <xabster> 's for both, and there are also other things
[04:37] <xabster> so it appears to be ... unofficial graphics driver updates?
[04:40] <holstein> xabster: they are *all*, bascially as official as they get
[04:41] <holstein> xabster: if you want newer versions of graphics drivers than are in the official repos, then you might want to try that PPA
[04:41] <xabster> right, but there were 33 updates after adding it, so i guess it's newer versions
[04:41] <xabster> i did
[04:41] <xabster> i'm not confused about what ppa's are, i was confused about what exactly it was offering
[04:41] <holstein> xabster: its offering newer packages from an unsupported source
[04:41] <xabster> i heard the xorg-edgers thing before
[04:41] <holstein> xabster: ubuntu is basically frozen, so, you can use ppa's to add sources easily
[04:42] <xabster> you're answering way too generally for what i'm asking but it's ok
[04:42] <xabster> i know..
[04:42] <holstein> xabster: they are newer, and unsupported, and both nvidia and ati, as well as others
[04:46] <xabster> ok ty
[04:46] <xabster> reboot
[05:39] <xtriz> is it possible to change the theme of xubuntu using dconf editor ?
[06:42] <xubuntu543> hi, so I installed xubuntu 13.04 as a dual boot on this windows 7 system, and the install completed successfully without any issues, but when I reboot, I don't see any option to choose which OS I want to boot, it just automatically boots in to windows 7 without so much as pause
[06:44] <xubuntu543> question is, does anyone have an idea on what might be happening, known issues of this sort, etc.? The only thing I can think of is that I installed it on my main drive, which is a couple of SSDs in a RAID 0  configuration
[06:47] <Unit193> Is this BIOS or EFI?
[06:48] <xubuntu543> BIOS, I've never messed with EFI before, not even entirely sure what it is still
[06:48] <Unit193> !grub
[06:48] <Unit193> I'd check the first link.
[06:49] <xubuntu543> just checking, you're talking to me, right?
[06:49] <Unit193> xubuntu543: Yeppers.
[06:50] <Unit193> xubuntu543: Grub is the Xubuntu boot manager, it should detect windows and list that as well.
[06:50] <xubuntu543> sweet, thank you, checking through the link now
[06:51] <xubuntu543> wait, the problem is that the windows installation was the first OS on the system, not the other way like the link suggests--I still have never successfully booted into Xubuntu beyond the LiveCD installation process
[06:52] <Unit193> xubuntu543: Well, the process is still pretty much the same if grub failed to install when you first installed the system.
[06:55] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing too.
[07:10] <xubuntu543> Unit193: sorry for the lag, and thanks for that tip, I'm exploring that further, I suppose that totally makes sense, since I have no recollection of GRUB actually making it onto the system at any point in the process.
[12:09] <kurts> hi, in xubuntu 13.10beta2 live cd, should permissions of automounted media in /media/xubuntu/* be 0700? seems a little restre]
[12:09] <kurts> ... restrictive to me, and im not sure if it is a bug
[12:14] <brainwash> kurts: xubuntu 13.10 has not been released yet, so try asking in #ubuntu+1 or #xubuntu-devel
[12:23] <Sysi> also beta2 is quite old already
[15:38] <gdos> how do i install LAMP?
[15:39] <bekks> gdos: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server ...
[15:39] <gdos> bekks: isn't there a meta-package that installs and gives me a default configuration?
[15:39] <bekks> No.
[15:40] <Sysi> !lamp
[17:15] <xubuntu855> alguem do BRASIL?
[17:15] <bekks> !br | xubuntu855
[18:15] <xabster> Hi, I'm about to do another thing to attempt to get my performance from my ATI card back to windows driver levels (which is this here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139200&p=12619755)
[18:15] <xabster> Before I do it, I'm wondering if I should uninstall whatever I already have, or if it will just override?
[18:41] <rickyrayjay> upgraded to xfce4 and desktop settings is different. i cant figure out how to use a custom image for background...?
[18:51] <LyzardKing> I need to know why the fn keys to control backlight work in ubuntu and kubuntu but not in xubuntu
[18:52] <LyzardKing> the notification shows the level of backlight, but it doesn't actually change
[18:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> Um, a little more info would be helpful
[18:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> like the make and model of the laptop
[18:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> the version of xubuntu you're using
[19:01] <LyzardKing> the laptop is a toshiba l750 with a nvidia card
[19:01] <LyzardKing> xubuntu is version 13.10...but I have the same problem with 13.04
[19:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> LyzardKing, your laptop has an nvidia gpu?
[19:14] <LyzardKing> Poisoned_Dragon: yes
[19:21] <nick07> hello, i want to start / install my blender version 2.65 but xubuntu doesn't react to the excute file
[19:22] <nick07> can someone help?
[19:22] <LyzardKing> Poisoned_Dragon: my gpu is nvidia. I tried adding acpi_backlight=vendor to /etc/default/grub but that didn't work
[19:33] <puff> I have a thinkpad t520 with ubuntu 13.04, xubuntu-desktop and an HP 6520 printer.  The printer was working fine, but now when I try to print it asks me for photo paper.  I'm not trying to print a photo, I have no idea why it thinks I am, and I can't find any sort of dialog to see the active state of the printer.  Settings Manager/Printer/Printer Properties/Printer Options has "Media Type" set to "Plain Paper"
[19:34] <puff> I am literally trying to print some text in MousePad, so I don't know why it thinks it needs photo paper.
[19:39] <puff> Hm, I found the "Media source" on the printer options, changed from autoselect to main tray...nothing happening.
[19:40] <puff> Ah, had to hit the OK button on the printer's touchscreen, but still the same response, out of paper.
[20:58] <JZA_> hi I have installed xubuntu on my SDcard but I have some issues
[20:58] <JZA_> first of it gets very slow sometimes, for no apparent reason.
[20:58] <JZA_> I put 2gb of swapping partition but still very very slow at some point.
[20:58] <JZA_> I did dmesg and I got this Updating information on frequency 5580 MHz for a 20 MHz width channel with regulatory rule
[20:59] <JZA_> not sure if its related.
[21:15] <n3glv> hello
[21:15] <n3glv> got a few questions if someone has the time
[21:15] <bekks> n3glv: First ask the questions, then see if someone answers.
[21:16] <n3glv> ok, running xubuntu 13 on a gateway (acer) laptop
[21:16] <bekks> n3glv: Which "Ubuntu 13"?
[21:16] <n3glv> it's an intel B960, was I right to choose amd64 distro?
[21:17] <n3glv> umm, 13.04? might be 13.10
[21:17] <n3glv> xubuntu
[21:17] <bekks> n3glv: Check it using lsb_release -a
[21:17] <n3glv> hence my reason to join this chan
[21:17] <n3glv> k
[21:17] <n3glv> Description:	Ubuntu 13.04
[21:18] <n3glv> nearly everything works, but cpu stepping and lcd brightness seem to be borked
[21:20] <n3glv> so I came to see if someone can point me in the right direction to fix
[21:21] <JZA_> anyone>
[21:21] <JZA_> ?
[21:22]  * n3glv Beuler?
[21:22] <JZA_> I need to know why my installation go so slow
[21:22] <JZA_> is a 16GB SD card
[21:22] <n3glv> JZA_: slow internet?
[21:22] <JZA_> and I use it as a HD replacement
[21:22] <n3glv> oh
[21:22] <n3glv> SD are SLOW compared to hd
[21:23] <n3glv> what class / Mb/Sec?
[21:23] <JZA_> n3glv: well it's much more slow than the liveUSB I was running
[21:23] <JZA_> from
[21:23] <n3glv> yes
[21:23] <JZA_> how do I get that info.
[21:23] <JZA_> dmesg gave me something like this..
[21:23] <n3glv> written on the ds card
[21:23] <n3glv> SD rather
[21:23] <n3glv> or packing it came in?
[21:23] <JZA_> Updating information on frequency 5580  MHz for a 20 MHz width channel with regulatory rule
[21:24] <JZA_> no, I installed from my usb -> SD card.
[21:24] <n3glv> something like class 4?
[21:24] <n3glv> yes, THE CARD HAS A SPEED RATE
[21:24] <JZA_> know do I know which class is it?
[21:25] <n3glv> and, if you installed vs making a live SD, it's going to be horribly slow
[21:25] <bekks> JZA_: Look at the card, it os printed on it, most likely.
[21:25] <n3glv> since it's no longer ramdisk
[21:25] <JZA_> well I am running from it
[21:25]  * n3glv wonders JZA_ home language
[21:25]  * n3glv doubts it's english
[21:25] <JZA_> n3glv: what's the difference?
[21:26] <n3glv> JZA_: does it have a circle, with a number, like 4 inside on the SD card?
[21:26] <JZA_> n3glv: no idea, is inside the machine
[21:26] <n3glv> where's the packing it came in?
[21:26] <JZA_> n3glv: long gone.. is not a new card
[21:26] <n3glv> so, prolly a class 4
[21:26] <bekks> JZA_: the difference is: performance difference at a factor of 1000 between flash memory (SD Card) and your RAM.
[21:26] <n3glv> or even slower
[21:27] <n3glv> easily 1000x
[21:27] <n3glv> I use raspberry pi for some things
[21:27] <JZA_> bekks: so my liveUSB (which is even older) was running faster was because it was loaded on the RAM disk.
[21:27] <bekks> JZA_: Correct.
[21:27] <n3glv> and going from class 4 to class 10 > rated at 30Mb/sec was HUGE improvement
[21:29] <n3glv> a live CD / USB does not do tons of file i/o to the device
[21:29] <n3glv> it caches most of what it needs in ramdisk
[21:29] <JZA_> I see
[21:29] <JZA_> so should it be better to disable persistance on the RAM
[21:29] <bekks> The I/O is used in every linux.
[21:30] <bekks> persistence to RAM is pointless. Turn off your computer, and your "persistent RAM" will be gone.
[21:30] <JZA_> s/RAM/liveUSB/g
[21:30] <bekks> 12Why do you think persistence affect the usage of the I/O cache?
[21:30] <JZA_> I just need to be able to work on this machine and save my files.
[21:30] <n3glv> use cloud storage
[21:30] <bekks> Then use a persistent liveusb and store your files whereever you want.
[21:31] <n3glv> or mount another usb device and write to that
[21:31] <JZA_> huh? how can cloud storage help me?
[21:31] <bekks> n3glv: cloud storage is most likely massively slower than a slow SD card.
[21:31] <n3glv> JZA_: it's non volitile <sp>
[21:31] <n3glv> he said save files
[21:31] <JZA_> I need to be able to work, some times include, installing new apps, and also saving configurations to it, like timezone, etc.
[21:31] <bekks> n3glv: Even for storing files, cloud storage is most likely slower than a SD card.
[21:32] <JZA_> I said work
[21:32] <bekks> JZA_: Then just use a persistent liveUSB.
[21:32] <n3glv> JZA_: external usb hard drive?
[21:32] <n3glv> yes, casper
[21:32] <bekks> JZA_: Or just install Ubuntu on your harddrive.
[21:32] <n3glv> that does not appear to be an option
[21:33] <JZA_> nope
[21:33] <bekks> "nope it isnt an option" or "nope it is"?
[21:33] <JZA_> I sometimes dont have the ext-HD available.
[21:33] <bekks> JZA_: Then a USB device is your only chance.
[21:34] <bekks> JZA_: Get a fast one, to have some performance at least.
[21:34] <JZA_> bekks: right but I need to open it, casper is not really helping.
[21:34] <n3glv> why not?
[21:34] <n3glv> may need remounted rw?
[21:34] <JZA_> because it doesnt allow me to install apps to it.
[21:34] <n3glv> it _should_
[21:34] <bekks> JZA_: It does.
[21:35] <JZA_> also can't access the 3GB missing from a 4GB USB disk
[21:35] <bekks> JZA_: You can remaster an image as you like, using casper.
[21:35] <n3glv> are you using sudo or as root?
[21:35] <JZA_> sudo
[21:35] <JZA_> I can sudo su root
[21:35] <n3glv> install gparted
[21:35] <bekks> sudo su root is pointless.
[21:35] <n3glv> gparted the usb device
[21:35] <bekks> sudo -i or sudo, no need for su.
[21:35] <n3glv> see what it says is there
[21:35] <JZA_> I have gparted, can I partition the USB which the OS is running from?
[21:35] <n3glv> depends on how it's mounted
[21:36] <n3glv> and partitioned
[21:36] <JZA_> ok
[21:40] <n3glv> well, I'm out for now
[21:40] <JZA_> I am doing the partition, now, I will try to edit casper file for persistance check up