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Kilosmorning superfly and others06:18
superflymorning Kilos 06:19
Symmetriammm06:58
Symmetriamorning06:58
Symmetriawtf how long does rndc-confgen take06:58
Symmetriaheh07:28
Kiloshi Symmetria 07:28
Symmetriaso, bug in centos bind installation, you gotta edit the init script to use -r /dev/urandom on rndc-confgen to make it generate the key the first time else it won't play nice ;p07:28
Symmetrianow it works :)07:29
Symmetrialo kilos07:29
Symmetriaheh, been a while since i did any systems crap, busy installing 12 anycast dns servers 07:29
Symmetriaand another 8 as112 instances 07:29
Symmetriaand *cry* these people love centos 07:29
Kiloswhew07:29
Kiloscentos is hard work07:30
Symmetriaheh trying to get this off my plate before I gotta head to amsterdam on tuesday07:30
Symmetriabut its kinda cool, our open recursive dns servers for our clients will be on cool addresses ;p we have 5.11.11.5 and 5.11.11.11 for recursors 07:31
Symmetriawell, will have once they fix my access to the damn routers to turn it up07:31
Kiloshave then afrinic peeps come to an agreement yet?07:32
Symmetriahaha07:32
Symmetriaafrinic is full of shit07:32
Kilosi noticed07:32
Kilosmanaged to get most of the mails cancelled07:33
SymmetriaI think Im gonna give up trying to do dns servers for now and go back to playing gta5 for a bit ;p07:33
Kiloslol07:33
superflySymmetria: it's because you're doing it wrong. use powerdns08:02
Squirmmorning08:05
Kiloshi Squirm 08:05
kbmonkeyhello hello08:38
Kilosyo kbmonkey you here or just not showing away?09:12
kbmonkeyyo09:12
Kiloswhy you didnt morning?09:12
kbmonkeyI am here, 09:12
kbmonkeyI did, before you came in man09:13
kbmonkeyand I switched away to video encoding so I did not see you come in ;)09:13
Kilosaw so sorry i had to restart xchat to show hosts09:13
Kilosmorning my friend09:13
kbmonkeyand now the washing machine is shouting at me that it is done09:13
Kiloslol09:13
kbmonkeymorning :)09:13
kbmonkeyI do not have sounds coming from irc, just so you know09:14
Kilosaha09:14
Kilosyou peeps with eyes09:15
kbmonkeytwo of them nogal09:15
Kiloshaha09:15
kbmonkeyhaha09:16
kbmonkeyI feel like a tea09:16
kbmonkeyand I am still hungry after brakfast09:16
kbmonkeyKilos, yesterday I did a hundred and ten pushups09:17
kbmonkey(not all at once mind you)09:17
Kiloswow you got worms or insubstantial breakfast09:17
Kilosthats good and squat kicks?09:17
Kilosi could never do over 40 pushups at once09:18
kbmonkeyI dewormed last week man09:18
Kiloshaha then have a bigger brekky09:18
kbmonkeyI can only do 20 to 24 at once09:18
Kilosand squat kicks?09:18
kbmonkeynope09:19
Kilosno good building upper bod and pins collapse09:19
kbmonkeyI will do those as a plan to alternate muscle groups09:19
kbmonkeyfirst the one, then the orther09:19
Kilosno man even build09:19
kbmonkeyso you alternate what you excercise each session09:20
kbmonkeyat least that is what I do09:20
Kilos20 pushups 20 squat kicks every time09:20
kbmonkeyno man, then I will be even more hungrier! ;)09:20
Kiloshahaha09:20
kbmonkeyI go make some tea now and hang the washing. I will squat kick them onto the line09:22
Kiloscool09:22
Kiloshi psychicist 10:58
psychicisthi Kilos 10:58
superflyusing a Google Drive form for a survey is actually pretty awesome. no need for survey monkey, to be honest11:22
charlgood afternoon13:20
charlMaaz: coffee on13:20
* Maaz starts grinding coffee13:20
kbmonkeyMaaz, tea please13:21
MaazAs soon as the kettle boils kbmonkey I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already13:21
kbmonkeyheh, we should teach you to make tea13:22
charlhi kbmonkey 13:23
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!13:24
kbmonkeywhat's up charl 13:24
charltoo much :) you?13:41
Kilossigh13:47
Kilosstupid router/3g/eth connections times out somehowq13:48
Kiloswithout the q13:48
kbmonkeywb Kilos 14:19
kbmonkeythe rain is coming down again14:19
Kiloslekker14:19
Kiloshow does one stop a router timing out14:19
Kilossomeone said you gotta keep pinging somewhere14:20
Kilosi forgot why i stopped  using the router14:20
kbmonkeyit is a 3g router?14:22
Kilosits one that uses 3g as adsl backup14:22
Kilosbut full time here with 3g dongle inna back14:23
kbmonkeyI might be wrong but your irc client should have a keep-alive ping built in14:24
kbmonkeyproblem is probably the 3g :(14:24
Kilosoh?14:24
kbmonkeyunless the router has a setting to disconnect when nothing is using the net?14:25
Kilosi read the whole router book before. took over a week but dont think i found anything there about timeouts14:25
Kilosgrrr14:25
kbmonkeyis that what you mean Kilos ?14:25
kbmonkeyoh okay14:25
Kilosyeah it shows online on the modem itself but everything here gets disconnected14:26
kbmonkeyhave a look in the router admin page? I do not think it has such a setting but worth a look14:30
Kilosok lemme try14:30
* Kilos gives up for now. router disconnected15:07
Kiloscouldnt even ssh to the thing15:12
Kilosgrrr15:12
Symmetriammm15:20
Symmetriakeep in mind that if the router switches from 3G to DSL or vice versa15:20
Symmetriaeverything will drop when it switches and reconnect15:20
Symmetriabecause the tcp state will break due to the change of end point IP 15:21
Kilosi only have 3g here Symmetria 15:21
Kilosso it shouldnt even try to switch15:21
Symmetriathe thing could also be doing tcp stateful timeout (if you're natting through it, it creates a translation entry, no traffic on a particular translation entry will cause the entry to time out after a while)15:22
Kilosdid you get what the fly told you do do15:22
Symmetriano?15:22
Kiloswait i look15:22
Kilossuperfly> Symmetria: it's because you're doing it wrong. use powerdns15:23
Symmetrialol, oh, that I saw yes :)15:23
Kiloshow do i kill that tcp stateful timeout15:23
Symmetrianothing wrong with bind on high load high capacity dns servers ;p15:23
Kilosits using dhcp15:23
Symmetriadepends, what type of router is it 15:23
Kilosbillion15:24
Kilosits adsl wireless with 3g backup15:24
Symmetriakilos doesnt make a difference what its using, state entries aren't related to that, state entries are created each time you form a tcp connection and torn down each time the entry either times out of the router sees a correct FIN packet 15:24
Symmetriano idea how to change state entry timeouts on a billion :(15:25
Kilosis that what its called15:25
Kilosstate entry timeouts15:25
Kilossjoe15:25
Kilosand works so well till i get idle15:25
Kilosalso ive no idea why i cant ssh to it anymore15:27
Kilosbut not today15:27
Symmetriaidle timeouts drive me nuts on a load of gear 15:30
Kilosis the thing a ftp server here?15:40
Kilosi found a stay timeout setting in the manual for that15:40
Kilosmassive book 165 pages15:41
Kilosgrr15:42
Kiloscan be a samba server too15:43
Kilosai!15:43
nlsthzno/16:13
charlhi nlsthzn 16:23
nlsthznhiya charl , how are you?16:24
Kilosplaying with router disconnects my 3g here as well grrr16:26
Kiloshi nlsthzn 16:26
nlsthznhiya uncle Kilos , why are you playing with the router, bored16:27
nlsthzn?16:27
Kiloslol16:28
Kilosno man16:28
Kilosi use it so sis can get some wireless net at times, but i forgot it timesout if im away too long16:28
nlsthznah ok :)16:29
* nlsthzn is alergic to doing anything that makes the IT stuff go *poof* cause it feels like I spend more time "upgrading" and "fixing" than "using" :p16:30
Kilosya16:30
Kilosnow im running modem directly to pc to see maybe the timeout is on the modem16:31
Trixar_zanlsthzn: I take it you do very little on a PC then :P16:39
Kiloshi Trixar_za 16:39
Trixar_zaHey Kilos16:39
Trixar_zaI downloaded Zetcode's PySide tutorial and made it self-contained16:40
Trixar_zaI also removed the annoying ads code16:40
Trixar_zaSeriously, does anyone benefit from using google ads on their site?16:41
Trixar_zaI used it with my blog and never got a cent16:41
nlsthznyup... but for the last week or so productivity has increased :) even while using KDE :p16:41
Kiloshi Xethron 16:44
KilosTrixar_za, you finished with your kernel?16:48
Trixar_zaYeah, but I still have to test it16:48
Kiloslol16:48
nlsthzngoogle profits from the adds...16:49
Trixar_zaYeah and they only pay out to you when they gain $100 from your ads16:51
Trixar_zaWhich is VERY rare, so they profit, you annoy your users and you gain no benefit16:52
nlsthznthen you need mega hits16:52
nlsthznstupid nightshift causing major blood sugar swings... grrr.....16:53
Kiloseish you at work nlsthzn ?16:53
nlsthznyup16:58
nlsthznwaiting for the food to be delivered and blood sugar falling16:59
Kilosoh my16:59
nlsthznown fault for being to lazy to make and bring food :/16:59
Kilosbite someone there16:59
Kilosmeat is food16:59
nlsthznhmmm sounds like a career limiting move :p17:01
Kiloslol17:01
nlsthznand something that could land me in jail...17:05
Kilosahabs not lekker to eat anyway17:06
Kiloscant you order something in?17:06
nlsthznthat the thing... waiting for the food to arrive... normally here by about 9 but now already ten past and still no sign >.<17:08
Kilosai!17:08
Kilosthey forgot17:08
nlsthzntried to get a pack of cookies from the vending machine and it doesn't play well with the new minted coins... only likes the old coins... 17:09
nlsthznit is a conspiracy I tell you17:09
Kiloshaha17:09
nlsthznand the fact that low blood sugar has all the symptoms and feelings of being drunk doesn't help >.<17:09
Kilosouch17:10
nlsthznlekker getrek by die werk :p17:10
Kiloslol17:10
Symmetriammm17:20
Symmetriaif you're getting low blood sugar17:20
Symmetriayou should be drinking non-sweetened fruit juice (apple juice is probably best)17:20
Symmetria;p17:20
Symmetriabecause cookies contain sucrose, which will boost blood sugar, but will cause it to spike and then plummet afterwards, fructose on the other hand (which is what is in fruit), will raise your blood sugar more slowly but it will be far more stable and last longer 17:21
Symmetria(lol, my twin sister has been an insulin dependant diabetic for the last 22 years, you learn a thing or two about blood sugar levels living with that)17:21
nlsthzn:) what you say is true... but if you have a choice of nothing and cookies then you choose cookies :p17:23
nlsthznor in this case your food that just arived... omnomnom tum17:23
nlsthzn*time17:23
Kilosyay17:23
nlsthzn*burp*17:32
nlsthznI should seriously make my own food... busy killng myself on this crap :/17:32
Kiloswhat you ate?17:33
nlsthznah some fries (which is always bad for you :p) and a Sandwich ...  17:37
Kilosand that sorts the blood sugar thing?17:38
nlsthznwell any food really...17:39
Kiloswow17:40
Kilosshortage of insulin?17:40
nlsthznto much insulin17:40
Kilosah17:40
nlsthznbecause I inject before coming to work17:40
nlsthznso I need to eat regularly17:40
Kilosow17:40
Kiloswhat causes the insulin shortage to start with17:42
Kilosmonkey also got some probs i think17:42
Kilossudo modprobe insulin gland17:43
nlsthznlol17:44
nlsthznwho knows... it may be the body starts making less insulin or becomes less sensitive to the insulin ...17:44
* nlsthzn is going to go for now... bbl and all17:44
Kiloschow now17:44
charlnlsthzn: i'm doing well thanks18:54
charlsorry for delayed response :)18:54
nlsthzn:)18:55
nlsthznthat was a very delayed response :D18:55
inetprogood evening19:33
kbmonkeyhi19:38
Kiloshi nlkbchar19:41
Kilosyo inetpro 19:41
Kilosoh my19:41
Kiloskbmonkey, charl 19:42
inetproeh Kilos, how goes?19:42
Kilosinetpro, jy moet dink weer19:42
Kiloslekker danke19:42
inetprohoekom dink?19:42
Kiloswell19:42
kbmonkeyhi19:43
Kilosdis daai readthedocs ding wat deursoek moet word19:43
Kilos die bot op die host willie mask nie en ek het die ibid.ini genano19:44
* inetpro het nie die backlogs gelees nie19:44
Kiloshehe19:44
inetproso pas teruggekom van die noorde van kzn19:45
Kiloswat is die verskil met die bot hier of op die host19:45
Kiloslekker19:45
inetproKilos: so verskoon my asb as ek so bietjie moeg is19:46
Kiloshmm...19:46
inetprodie pad was net te lank19:46
Kilosok jy kan deur die week verder dink daaroor19:46
Kilosja en jy word oud ook nou19:46
inetpromaar ons is darem veilig tuis en dis die belangrikste19:47
Kilosdis al wat belangrik is19:47
inetprowas baie lekker om weer in my ou pragtige tuisland te gaan kuier19:48
Kilosai! jy maak my jaloers19:49
Kilosmaar jy moet vooraf laat weet man19:49
Kilosits no good declaring after the fact19:50
Kilosits bed time anyway19:53
Kilossleep tight all of ya. see ya morrow time19:58
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