[06:18] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:19] <superfly> morning Kilos 
[06:58] <Symmetria> mmm
[06:58] <Symmetria> morning
[06:58] <Symmetria> wtf how long does rndc-confgen take
[07:28] <Symmetria> heh
[07:28] <Kilos> hi Symmetria 
[07:28] <Symmetria> so, bug in centos bind installation, you gotta edit the init script to use -r /dev/urandom on rndc-confgen to make it generate the key the first time else it won't play nice ;p
[07:29] <Symmetria> now it works :)
[07:29] <Symmetria> lo kilos
[07:29] <Symmetria> heh, been a while since i did any systems crap, busy installing 12 anycast dns servers 
[07:29] <Symmetria> and another 8 as112 instances 
[07:29] <Symmetria> and *cry* these people love centos 
[07:29] <Kilos> whew
[07:30] <Kilos> centos is hard work
[07:30] <Symmetria> heh trying to get this off my plate before I gotta head to amsterdam on tuesday
[07:31] <Symmetria> but its kinda cool, our open recursive dns servers for our clients will be on cool addresses ;p we have 5.11.11.5 and 5.11.11.11 for recursors 
[07:31] <Symmetria> well, will have once they fix my access to the damn routers to turn it up
[07:32] <Kilos> have then afrinic peeps come to an agreement yet?
[07:32] <Symmetria> haha
[07:32] <Symmetria> afrinic is full of shit
[07:32] <Kilos> i noticed
[07:33] <Kilos> managed to get most of the mails cancelled
[07:33] <Symmetria> I think Im gonna give up trying to do dns servers for now and go back to playing gta5 for a bit ;p
[07:33] <Kilos> lol
[08:02] <superfly> Symmetria: it's because you're doing it wrong. use powerdns
[08:05] <Squirm> morning
[08:05] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[08:38] <kbmonkey> hello hello
[09:12] <Kilos> yo kbmonkey you here or just not showing away?
[09:12] <kbmonkey> yo
[09:12] <Kilos> why you didnt morning?
[09:12] <kbmonkey> I am here, 
[09:13] <kbmonkey> I did, before you came in man
[09:13] <kbmonkey> and I switched away to video encoding so I did not see you come in ;)
[09:13] <Kilos> aw so sorry i had to restart xchat to show hosts
[09:13] <Kilos> morning my friend
[09:13] <kbmonkey> and now the washing machine is shouting at me that it is done
[09:13] <Kilos> lol
[09:13] <kbmonkey> morning :)
[09:14] <kbmonkey> I do not have sounds coming from irc, just so you know
[09:14] <Kilos> aha
[09:15] <Kilos> you peeps with eyes
[09:15] <kbmonkey> two of them nogal
[09:15] <Kilos> haha
[09:16] <kbmonkey> haha
[09:16] <kbmonkey> I feel like a tea
[09:16] <kbmonkey> and I am still hungry after brakfast
[09:17] <kbmonkey> Kilos, yesterday I did a hundred and ten pushups
[09:17] <kbmonkey> (not all at once mind you)
[09:17] <Kilos> wow you got worms or insubstantial breakfast
[09:17] <Kilos> thats good and squat kicks?
[09:18] <Kilos> i could never do over 40 pushups at once
[09:18] <kbmonkey> I dewormed last week man
[09:18] <Kilos> haha then have a bigger brekky
[09:18] <kbmonkey> I can only do 20 to 24 at once
[09:18] <Kilos> and squat kicks?
[09:19] <kbmonkey> nope
[09:19] <Kilos> no good building upper bod and pins collapse
[09:19] <kbmonkey> I will do those as a plan to alternate muscle groups
[09:19] <kbmonkey> first the one, then the orther
[09:19] <Kilos> no man even build
[09:20] <kbmonkey> so you alternate what you excercise each session
[09:20] <kbmonkey> at least that is what I do
[09:20] <Kilos> 20 pushups 20 squat kicks every time
[09:20] <kbmonkey> no man, then I will be even more hungrier! ;)
[09:20] <Kilos> hahaha
[09:22] <kbmonkey> I go make some tea now and hang the washing. I will squat kick them onto the line
[09:22] <Kilos> cool
[10:58] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[10:58] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[11:22] <superfly> using a Google Drive form for a survey is actually pretty awesome. no need for survey monkey, to be honest
[13:20] <charl> good afternoon
[13:20] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[13:20]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[13:21] <kbmonkey> Maaz, tea please
[13:21] <Maaz> As soon as the kettle boils kbmonkey I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already
[13:22] <kbmonkey> heh, we should teach you to make tea
[13:23] <charl> hi kbmonkey 
[13:24] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[13:24] <kbmonkey> what's up charl 
[13:41] <charl> too much :) you?
[13:47] <Kilos> sigh
[13:48] <Kilos> stupid router/3g/eth connections times out somehowq
[13:48] <Kilos> without the q
[14:19] <kbmonkey> wb Kilos 
[14:19] <kbmonkey> the rain is coming down again
[14:19] <Kilos> lekker
[14:19] <Kilos> how does one stop a router timing out
[14:20] <Kilos> someone said you gotta keep pinging somewhere
[14:20] <Kilos> i forgot why i stopped  using the router
[14:22] <kbmonkey> it is a 3g router?
[14:22] <Kilos> its one that uses 3g as adsl backup
[14:23] <Kilos> but full time here with 3g dongle inna back
[14:24] <kbmonkey> I might be wrong but your irc client should have a keep-alive ping built in
[14:24] <kbmonkey> problem is probably the 3g :(
[14:24] <Kilos> oh?
[14:25] <kbmonkey> unless the router has a setting to disconnect when nothing is using the net?
[14:25] <Kilos> i read the whole router book before. took over a week but dont think i found anything there about timeouts
[14:25] <Kilos> grrr
[14:25] <kbmonkey> is that what you mean Kilos ?
[14:25] <kbmonkey> oh okay
[14:26] <Kilos> yeah it shows online on the modem itself but everything here gets disconnected
[14:30] <kbmonkey> have a look in the router admin page? I do not think it has such a setting but worth a look
[14:30] <Kilos> ok lemme try
[15:07]  * Kilos gives up for now. router disconnected
[15:12] <Kilos> couldnt even ssh to the thing
[15:12] <Kilos> grrr
[15:20] <Symmetria> mmm
[15:20] <Symmetria> keep in mind that if the router switches from 3G to DSL or vice versa
[15:20] <Symmetria> everything will drop when it switches and reconnect
[15:21] <Symmetria> because the tcp state will break due to the change of end point IP 
[15:21] <Kilos> i only have 3g here Symmetria 
[15:21] <Kilos> so it shouldnt even try to switch
[15:22] <Symmetria> the thing could also be doing tcp stateful timeout (if you're natting through it, it creates a translation entry, no traffic on a particular translation entry will cause the entry to time out after a while)
[15:22] <Kilos> did you get what the fly told you do do
[15:22] <Symmetria> no?
[15:22] <Kilos> wait i look
[15:23] <Kilos> superfly> Symmetria: it's because you're doing it wrong. use powerdns
[15:23] <Symmetria> lol, oh, that I saw yes :)
[15:23] <Kilos> how do i kill that tcp stateful timeout
[15:23] <Symmetria> nothing wrong with bind on high load high capacity dns servers ;p
[15:23] <Kilos> its using dhcp
[15:23] <Symmetria> depends, what type of router is it 
[15:24] <Kilos> billion
[15:24] <Kilos> its adsl wireless with 3g backup
[15:24] <Symmetria> kilos doesnt make a difference what its using, state entries aren't related to that, state entries are created each time you form a tcp connection and torn down each time the entry either times out of the router sees a correct FIN packet 
[15:25] <Symmetria> no idea how to change state entry timeouts on a billion :(
[15:25] <Kilos> is that what its called
[15:25] <Kilos> state entry timeouts
[15:25] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:25] <Kilos> and works so well till i get idle
[15:27] <Kilos> also ive no idea why i cant ssh to it anymore
[15:27] <Kilos> but not today
[15:30] <Symmetria> idle timeouts drive me nuts on a load of gear 
[15:40] <Kilos> is the thing a ftp server here?
[15:40] <Kilos> i found a stay timeout setting in the manual for that
[15:41] <Kilos> massive book 165 pages
[15:42] <Kilos> grr
[15:43] <Kilos> can be a samba server too
[15:43] <Kilos> ai!
[16:13] <nlsthzn> o/
[16:23] <charl> hi nlsthzn 
[16:24] <nlsthzn> hiya charl , how are you?
[16:26] <Kilos> playing with router disconnects my 3g here as well grrr
[16:26] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[16:27] <nlsthzn> hiya uncle Kilos , why are you playing with the router, bored
[16:27] <nlsthzn> ?
[16:28] <Kilos> lol
[16:28] <Kilos> no man
[16:28] <Kilos> i use it so sis can get some wireless net at times, but i forgot it timesout if im away too long
[16:29] <nlsthzn> ah ok :)
[16:30]  * nlsthzn is alergic to doing anything that makes the IT stuff go *poof* cause it feels like I spend more time "upgrading" and "fixing" than "using" :p
[16:30] <Kilos> ya
[16:31] <Kilos> now im running modem directly to pc to see maybe the timeout is on the modem
[16:39] <Trixar_za> nlsthzn: I take it you do very little on a PC then :P
[16:39] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[16:39] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[16:40] <Trixar_za> I downloaded Zetcode's PySide tutorial and made it self-contained
[16:40] <Trixar_za> I also removed the annoying ads code
[16:41] <Trixar_za> Seriously, does anyone benefit from using google ads on their site?
[16:41] <Trixar_za> I used it with my blog and never got a cent
[16:41] <nlsthzn> yup... but for the last week or so productivity has increased :) even while using KDE :p
[16:44] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[16:48] <Kilos> Trixar_za, you finished with your kernel?
[16:48] <Trixar_za> Yeah, but I still have to test it
[16:48] <Kilos> lol
[16:49] <nlsthzn> google profits from the adds...
[16:51] <Trixar_za> Yeah and they only pay out to you when they gain $100 from your ads
[16:52] <Trixar_za> Which is VERY rare, so they profit, you annoy your users and you gain no benefit
[16:52] <nlsthzn> then you need mega hits
[16:53] <nlsthzn> stupid nightshift causing major blood sugar swings... grrr.....
[16:53] <Kilos> eish you at work nlsthzn ?
[16:58] <nlsthzn> yup
[16:59] <nlsthzn> waiting for the food to be delivered and blood sugar falling
[16:59] <Kilos> oh my
[16:59] <nlsthzn> own fault for being to lazy to make and bring food :/
[16:59] <Kilos> bite someone there
[16:59] <Kilos> meat is food
[17:01] <nlsthzn> hmmm sounds like a career limiting move :p
[17:01] <Kilos> lol
[17:05] <nlsthzn> and something that could land me in jail...
[17:06] <Kilos> ahabs not lekker to eat anyway
[17:06] <Kilos> cant you order something in?
[17:08] <nlsthzn> that the thing... waiting for the food to arrive... normally here by about 9 but now already ten past and still no sign >.<
[17:08] <Kilos> ai!
[17:08] <Kilos> they forgot
[17:09] <nlsthzn> tried to get a pack of cookies from the vending machine and it doesn't play well with the new minted coins... only likes the old coins... 
[17:09] <nlsthzn> it is a conspiracy I tell you
[17:09] <Kilos> haha
[17:09] <nlsthzn> and the fact that low blood sugar has all the symptoms and feelings of being drunk doesn't help >.<
[17:10] <Kilos> ouch
[17:10] <nlsthzn> lekker getrek by die werk :p
[17:10] <Kilos> lol
[17:20] <Symmetria> mmm
[17:20] <Symmetria> if you're getting low blood sugar
[17:20] <Symmetria> you should be drinking non-sweetened fruit juice (apple juice is probably best)
[17:20] <Symmetria> ;p
[17:21] <Symmetria> because cookies contain sucrose, which will boost blood sugar, but will cause it to spike and then plummet afterwards, fructose on the other hand (which is what is in fruit), will raise your blood sugar more slowly but it will be far more stable and last longer 
[17:21] <Symmetria> (lol, my twin sister has been an insulin dependant diabetic for the last 22 years, you learn a thing or two about blood sugar levels living with that)
[17:23] <nlsthzn> :) what you say is true... but if you have a choice of nothing and cookies then you choose cookies :p
[17:23] <nlsthzn> or in this case your food that just arived... omnomnom tum
[17:23] <nlsthzn> *time
[17:23] <Kilos> yay
[17:32] <nlsthzn> *burp*
[17:32] <nlsthzn> I should seriously make my own food... busy killng myself on this crap :/
[17:33] <Kilos> what you ate?
[17:37] <nlsthzn> ah some fries (which is always bad for you :p) and a Sandwich ...  
[17:38] <Kilos> and that sorts the blood sugar thing?
[17:39] <nlsthzn> well any food really...
[17:40] <Kilos> wow
[17:40] <Kilos> shortage of insulin?
[17:40] <nlsthzn> to much insulin
[17:40] <Kilos> ah
[17:40] <nlsthzn> because I inject before coming to work
[17:40] <nlsthzn> so I need to eat regularly
[17:40] <Kilos> ow
[17:42] <Kilos> what causes the insulin shortage to start with
[17:42] <Kilos> monkey also got some probs i think
[17:43] <Kilos> sudo modprobe insulin gland
[17:44] <nlsthzn> lol
[17:44] <nlsthzn> who knows... it may be the body starts making less insulin or becomes less sensitive to the insulin ...
[17:44]  * nlsthzn is going to go for now... bbl and all
[17:44] <Kilos> chow now
[18:54] <charl> nlsthzn: i'm doing well thanks
[18:54] <charl> sorry for delayed response :)
[18:55] <nlsthzn> :)
[18:55] <nlsthzn> that was a very delayed response :D
[19:33] <inetpro> good evening
[19:38] <kbmonkey> hi
[19:41] <Kilos> hi nlkbchar
[19:41] <Kilos> yo inetpro 
[19:41] <Kilos> oh my
[19:42] <Kilos> kbmonkey, charl 
[19:42] <inetpro> eh Kilos, how goes?
[19:42] <Kilos> inetpro, jy moet dink weer
[19:42] <Kilos> lekker danke
[19:42] <inetpro> hoekom dink?
[19:42] <Kilos> well
[19:43] <kbmonkey> hi
[19:43] <Kilos> dis daai readthedocs ding wat deursoek moet word
[19:44] <Kilos>  die bot op die host willie mask nie en ek het die ibid.ini genano
[19:44]  * inetpro het nie die backlogs gelees nie
[19:44] <Kilos> hehe
[19:45] <inetpro> so pas teruggekom van die noorde van kzn
[19:45] <Kilos> wat is die verskil met die bot hier of op die host
[19:45] <Kilos> lekker
[19:46] <inetpro> Kilos: so verskoon my asb as ek so bietjie moeg is
[19:46] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:46] <inetpro> die pad was net te lank
[19:46] <Kilos> ok jy kan deur die week verder dink daaroor
[19:46] <Kilos> ja en jy word oud ook nou
[19:47] <inetpro> maar ons is darem veilig tuis en dis die belangrikste
[19:47] <Kilos> dis al wat belangrik is
[19:48] <inetpro> was baie lekker om weer in my ou pragtige tuisland te gaan kuier
[19:49] <Kilos> ai! jy maak my jaloers
[19:49] <Kilos> maar jy moet vooraf laat weet man
[19:50] <Kilos> its no good declaring after the fact
[19:53] <Kilos> its bed time anyway
[19:58] <Kilos> sleep tight all of ya. see ya morrow time