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SchallaTylertwo: Thanks00:00
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DysfunccctionSo when I just boot normally, and press "ESC" to switch to text boot, it hangs up at a stage relating to "System V"00:00
TheMadDrizzlereisio: thanks, gimme one sec to check it all00:00
Schallaso if i wanna copy the disk, it's /dev/sda, right?00:00
reisioSchalla: dd is usually not the best way to copy data00:00
wilee-nileeDysfunccction, Did this ever boot, if so what led to this no boot, if you can.00:00
DysfunccctionIt used to boot.00:01
Schallareisio: Any other way to make a complete mirror of the hdd?00:01
SchallaI also need the MBR and such, since it's pgp encrypted.00:01
DysfunccctionThe problem occured after I installed Wine.00:01
reisioSchalla: since?00:01
Schalla*because00:01
reisiono, not because :)00:01
DysfunccctionIt asked to remove  incompatable packages, so I did so.00:02
reisioI'd back up the data, and not the device00:02
reisiosubtly but importantly different00:02
Schallareisio: That might be easier, but can't be done that easily.00:02
wilee-nileeDysfunccction, what leads to this remove a update or a install...etc?00:02
Ponch0One more question, installation of geany 1.24 tells me that I'm missing depends "glib2, gtk2 and pango", before install I verified that I have them, although theyre under different file names, glib2 is libglib2 and so on, could this be the potential cause for install failure, and what other things could cause this? so I can look up the solution, thanks!00:02
Schallareisio: Why you wouldn't use dd?00:03
TheMadDrizzlereisio: Everything is unmuted, namely the S/PDIF and S/PDIF Default.  No other toggles that I can find00:03
TheMadDrizzleBoth S/PDIF and S/PDIF Default have no volume controls, just settings to show they're unmuted00:03
DysfunccctionI just wanted to install Wine. I had also been installing a bunch of other packages in Software Center at the same time too if that matters.00:04
reisioTheMadDrizzle: hit TAB, use left/right arrow keys, use up/down arrow keys00:04
skeuomorfhey guys, anybody have any idea why using Plex media server, it can't see my files? Not my Home directory, not my Portable drive, nothing, I tried adding the user plex to the plugdev group then added it to my user's group, still, not able to see the files00:04
wilee-nileeDysfunccction, Gonna be hard to find any answers without any specifics.00:04
gulag2013Is there a linux mint channel?00:04
reisiogulag2013: /msg alis list *linux*mint*00:05
wilee-nileegulag2013, Not on freenode00:05
reisiowilee-nilee: sure there is00:05
Ponch0different server gulag ! :D00:05
wilee-nileereisio, used to be I think it's gone00:05
reisionah00:05
reisionothing's gone from this world, 'cept sense00:05
DysfunccctionI rebooted, but it was going slow so I just hard shutdown. It never booted since.00:05
Ponch0gulag I think it's irc.debian.org00:05
bazhang!mintsupport | gulag201300:06
ubottugulag2013: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:06
TheMadDrizzlereisio: Everything now unmuted and at full volume.  Still no sound or even sound signal shown in PulseAudio00:06
nick1njsg good news. Still have windows.00:06
nick1Also have ubuntu00:06
wilee-nilee##linuxmint 64 users is all I see00:06
nick1also have a failed install of ubuntu00:06
gulag2013Oh, okay tried a few * Thanks for clearing that up. Would anyone here be able t completely remove Cinnamon. I have no idea how it got installed on my Ubuntu 12.04. Thanks for the channel  infor00:07
nick1So now I'm trying to see if I can get the windows boot manager to work00:07
reisioTheMadDrizzle: really not talking about muting...00:07
wilee-nileenick1, This W8 or uefi?00:08
nick1wilee-nilee so I have three partitions: Windows 8, ubuntu, and Ubuntu. My computer is booting using UEFI mode. The Ubuntu (capitalized) does not work.00:09
dhanasekaran1Hi Guys I want record what are command executed in my remote server00:09
nick1The boot manager allows me to boot to Windows 8 and Ubuntu.00:09
nick1I would like to delete Ubuntu and have the option to boot to Windows 8 and ubuntu (non capitalized).00:09
dhanasekaran1please guide me. History command not gives proper output00:09
wilee-nileenick1, You tried the bootrepair app to fix ubuntu to boot?00:09
Ponch0One more question, installation of geany 1.24 tells me that I'm missing depends "glib2, gtk2 and pango", before install I verified that I have them, although theyre under different file names, glib2 is libglib2 and so on, could this be the potential cause for install failure, and what other things could cause this? so I can look up the solution, thanks!00:09
wilee-nileenick1, ##windows would be the W8 fix channel deleteing ubuntu can be done from windows.00:10
nick1wilee-nilee, no do you think that would fix it?00:10
wilee-nileenick1, fix what exactly?00:10
Schallauhm any reason why: sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=smb://nas/public/BackUp/win7.img doesn't work?00:10
SchallaI forget anything special?00:11
nick1To delete Ubuntu (capitalized) and add ubuntu (non capitalized) to boot manager00:11
reisioSchalla: does dd grok smb:// ?00:11
Schallawhat you mean with grok reisio?00:11
reisiounderstand00:11
reisioI think not00:11
Ben64smb:// is more of a nautilus thing00:12
wilee-nileenick1, "The boot manager allows me to boot to Windows 8 and Ubuntu." this suggests you can boot it now, can you be more concise?00:12
Ben64you need to mount the share00:12
reisioSchalla: what're you going to do with a dd of Windows?00:12
Dysfunccctionwilee-nilee: What info were you looking for exactly?00:13
Schallareisio: I sometimes need to work probaly again on a windows 7 image, and don't wanna reinstall the whole thing everytime.00:13
SchallaVPN,Notes, PGP...00:13
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SchallaThat's why00:13
SchallaBen64: Alright00:13
Guest74544Hey guys, I have a question about installing Ubuntu 13.04 on my windows * pc00:13
Guest74544* windows 8 pc00:13
nick1sure wilee-nilee. Sorry, about that and thanks for your help.00:14
nick1So currently when I start my computer I am presented with the metro boot manager that gives me two options: Windows 8 and Ubuntu. Windows 8 works fine, but Ubuntu gives an error because I incorrectly installed it.00:14
nick1However, I have another copy of Ubuntu that does work, but is not given as an option in the boot manager. Does this make sense?00:14
wilee-nileeDysfunccction, The channel would want to know exactly what you were installing and what was removed that caused this predicament, a hard shutdown has its own set of problems. To be honest since to are a beginner you might consider a new install, and making a image of that so if you break it again you can just reload it, just a suggestion is all since you have no real details.00:15
njsgSchalla: go with dd, but maybe it's also useful to copy your windows user profile separately for future use, as some of these files can be just copied to their linux counterparts00:15
Guest74544I want to split my hdd 50/50 put I get this screen during install http://imgbin.org/images/15357.png, what do I do?00:15
reisioGuest74544: advanced?00:16
DysfunccctionI guess I'll just back-up.00:16
njsgGuest74544: drag the divider so that it gets nearly 50/50?00:17
Schallanjsg: Ay, it's a fresh install. I just joined a new company, where the default is windows and the system introduction goes 2 days (Lotus Notes is horrible to set up.), so I thought better save it as image.00:17
Schallaben64: Works like a charm after mounting it, thanks.00:17
Guest74544It can only get to where the second partition is approx 90 gigs, and I dunno what parition is which00:17
njsgSchalla: yeah, image the whole thing00:18
guest-DHhjcTPretty please, does anybody have the 1.7 GB ISO file of Ubuntu Studio v10.04.4 LTS 64 Bit. my DVD-R disc cracked :-(00:18
njsgSchalla: even if you have trouble getting what you need later, it's still better than only having parts of it00:18
njsgSchalla: there are specific tools to image ntfs partitions, which take into account non-allocated space00:18
Schallaay. when i use sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/win7.img i copy the whole disk including mbr and partitiontables, right?00:18
Jordan_USchalla: Correct.00:19
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SchallaPerfect.00:19
njsgSchalla: yeah, and pretty please tell me /mnt/ is not in a filesystem in /dev/sda00:19
njsgSchalla: you may prefer to copy the windows partition directly00:19
Schallanjsg: No, it's my network mount :)00:19
njsgSchalla: mostly because mounting it will become easier00:19
Schallaon my NAS00:19
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wilee-nileeguest-DHhjcT, That would be eol and not supported, probably on the web though.00:20
Schallausing sudo mount -t cifs \\IP\public /mnt00:20
njsgSchalla: oh, one thing00:20
Schalla*//IP/public00:20
SchallaYes?00:20
Guest42414damn. maybe if I could delete this partition or something00:20
njsgSchalla: if you ever plan to use this install on a machine with a different controller, you may want to run the windows out of box experience before making the image00:20
njsgcontroller, disk controller00:20
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deibujiHello, how do you set the default text to speech engine in ubuntu? i want to use festival00:21
wilee-nileeGuest42414, I would be using gparted for some of that, and windows to resize ant windows partitions.00:21
wilee-nileeany*00:21
guest-DHhjcTAre there Minimum hardware requirements for WD SATA 3 TB drive? GParted, Test Disk and Red Hat's Disk Utility F'd up the GPT00:21
Schallanjsg: Why?00:21
njsgSchalla: windows won't boot if the HDD controller is not the same00:22
SchallaAh okay.00:22
njsgSchalla: if you do the out of box experience, the next boot runs the windows setup00:22
SchallaWell that's fine, since I will have the same notebook for the next 3 years.00:22
Schalla^^00:22
njsgah ok00:22
reisioguest-DHhjcT: did you want the question answered, or the statement addressed?00:22
alonehi all00:22
Schallanjsg: You can not get the process of dd, hm?00:22
nick1right. so I just need to get a partition manager and delete the old one00:22
njsgSchalla: what do you mean?00:23
nick1and then I'll worry about boot manager after.00:23
Schallanjsg: like 1% of 100% finished00:23
njsgSchalla: ah. you can send a signal to dd to have it print how much it already copied00:23
reisioguest-DHhjcT: GPT is a good idea, you might also want to consider the -m value for mkfs00:24
njsg"Sending a USR1 signal to a running 'dd' process makes it print I/O statistics to standard error and then resume copying."00:24
njsgSchalla: ^00:24
Schallanjsg: Ah okay00:24
reisioguest-DHhjcT: other than that, no particular requirements00:24
reisioguest-DHhjcT: sgdisk -Z /dev/whatever can get you back to square one, be careful what you point it at00:24
dhanasekaran1In my remote server exec. commands as  non interactive way how actually00:24
dhanasekaran1How to get the commands issued in a ssh session00:24
njsgSchalla: the dd manpage mentions that as an example00:24
Schallanjsg: Guess it will take some time anyway, since the hdd is 250gb00:24
Schalla^^00:24
njsgSchalla: I suppose you can even use pkill, pkill -USR1 dd00:24
njsgSchalla: the bottleneck may even be the network00:25
Schallanjsg: It writes with 35mb/s, should be fine.00:25
njsg... which reminds me that I should get a gigabit switch someday :-D00:25
Schalla1GB Connection with a Gigabit Switch00:25
Schalla:)00:25
SchallaYeah, bought mine 5 days ago00:25
Schalla28€, that's fine00:25
njsgheh, I don't even have a swicher, I just have a bunch of 100 mpbs cards I put on my desktop00:26
njsgin, 1gbps (although this building only gets 100mbps), out 100mbps00:26
Schalla100 Mbit Internet Connection -> Fritzbox -> DLAN (300mbps) -> 1GB Switch -> Desktop00:27
Schalla...still better than wlan00:27
Schalla00:27
Schalla:P00:27
njsgtrue00:27
njsgas far as I can, I use ethernet. much less problematic than wlan. although having bad 3g coverage does tempt me to get a wireless switch00:28
FreederHi... I'm troubleshooting a user ssh issue- i can log in to the box via ssh (verified via auth.log), but no shell prompt appears. even verified the shell by running chsh for the user, /bin/bash is set in the passwd file. Any thoughts?00:30
rickb_hello! so I have a SAS drive enclosure, it basically uses two SATA cables to connect to the board. Any idea how i'd find this array on the box?00:31
deibujiHow do you set the default text to speech engine in ubuntu? i want to use festival00:34
SonikkuAmericadeibuji: [ sudo dpkg-reconfigure festival ] Does anything happen?00:37
deibujiSonikkuAmerica: doesn't give any output. let me see if mumble uses it now.00:38
deibujiSonikkuAmerica: nope. unless i need to log out and in00:38
SonikkuAmericadeibuji: Hmmm... This is Ubuntu proper (with Unity), right?00:39
deibujiah, no. it's with i3; perhaps that's the issue?00:39
SonikkuAmericadeibuji: I doubt it... i3 is just a tiling window manager.00:42
Guest74544I want to split my hdd 50/50 put I get this screen during install http://imgbin.org/images/15357.png, what do I do?00:44
deibujiSonikkuAmerica: although saying that i think i might have removed unity if i remember rightly00:44
SchallaGuest74544: Like he said, you can pull the divider in the middle?00:45
Schalla*like it says00:45
SchallaYou can also use the advanded partitiong tool.00:45
SonikkuAmericaThat's what "he" said. :-) I would recommend GParted myself.00:46
Guest74544Schalla, I'm not sure which partition is which though00:46
SchallaGuest74544: Does that really matter when they should be 50/50?00:47
SonikkuAmericadeibuji: Use the dmenu to pull up gnome-control-center and search for Default Applications00:47
Guest74544Well no, but it would be nice00:47
Schalla:p00:47
Guest74544I'm installing it anyways, wish me luck xD00:47
wilee-nileeGuest74544, This a dualboot with W8?00:48
Guest74544Yea wilee-nilee00:48
wilee-nileeGuest74544, Well your installing so we will see what happens00:48
Guest74544I'll report back the results00:49
FreederHi... I'm troubleshooting a user ssh issue- i can log in to the box via ssh (verified via auth.log), but no shell prompt appears. even verified the shell by running chsh for the user, /bin/bash is set in the passwd file. Any thoughts? (other users can log in)00:51
debfan_hello....  I can't get firefox restarted....00:52
SonikkuAmericadebfan_: killall firefox00:53
l_rwhen will ubuntu 13 10 be out?00:54
debfan_ahh, okay... I'll try that next time00:54
debfan_I think it just took a long time for the process to be stopped?00:54
jribFreeder: your user's bashrc or similar files are  funky?00:57
Freederhmm00:58
ArielX_hello all00:58
ArielX_12.04.3 LTS and 13.04 which is better?00:58
Freederit should still load w/o a bashrc, right?00:58
Tylertwo!13.10 | l_r00:59
ubottul_r: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.00:59
l_rwhat will be the biggest news in 13 10?01:00
reisiothat my crystal ball exists01:00
SonikkuAmerical_r: That it's Oneiric with Mir01:02
ArielX_hahahaha lol01:02
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l_rwhat's mir01:03
SonikkuAmerica!mir01:03
ubottuMir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir01:03
SonikkuAmericaBut will be included in13.10 as well01:03
l_rwhat are the benefits01:03
reisiocan you really call something next generation if the previous generation's developers haven't been involved with it?01:03
SonikkuAmerical_r: Less of the code kludge that is X01:04
reisiol_r: more Canonicaly01:04
Guest8636New to Linux here...can I upgrade from xfse to kde?01:04
reisioGuest8636: you can switch from one to the other01:04
reisiohttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu01:04
Psil0Cybinhey guys quick question i plug in a external hard drive and copy over a file and when i try to eject and unmount it it keeps saying its in use... im using Xubuntu01:08
Psil0Cybini saw a couple of guys on it, but i am confused...how can i find out what program is accessing the hard drive, so i can eject it01:08
Psil0Cybinguides*01:08
reisioPsil0Cybin: lsof /mnt/point01:09
Psil0Cybinand that would show me what is going on?01:09
reisioyou are probably cd'd into it, or otherwise have a file of its open01:09
reisioPsil0Cybin: yeah01:09
Psil0Cybinokay perfect thanks guys01:09
jribFreeder: how do you know it's not loading?01:09
jribFreeder: oh i misunderstood.  Yeah, if you remove .bashrc it should still load.  You have other files though that affect your shell.  like .profile for example01:09
waykool99Psil, i've wondered the exact same thing using WD external USB v3 drives01:09
Freederjrib: no clue. All I know is ssh authentication succeeds, but no shell prompt appears.01:10
thumbeeif im doing an apt-get install in ubuntu.. will it cause a conflict if i apt-get a second install at the exact same time?01:10
thumbee*ie. 2 terminals..01:10
Freederok01:10
jribFreeder: you can check with another user what your broken user has running when he tries to log in01:10
Freedermaybe I'll just blow away the user and try again01:10
jribFreeder: you just get a "stuck" prompt right?  No new prompt?01:10
waykool99is it me, or others sentences getting01:11
Freederno prompt at all01:11
waykool99chopped off??01:11
Freederand disconnects shortly after01:11
Freederc@localhost's password:01:11
Freederf01:11
jribFreeder: try something like: ssh -t host bash --noprofile01:11
FreederConnection to localhost closed.01:11
Freederok01:11
jribFreeder: that's different01:11
jribFreeder: if you're getting disconnected then it could some ssh setting kicking you out01:11
Freederyep01:13
FreederAllowUsers01:13
Freedersigh01:13
Freederthanks01:13
FloodBot1Freeder: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:13
Freederheh01:13
Freederwell, still no, but that certainly didnt help01:14
waykool99ahh. ubuntu studio v12.04 not very friendly to visually impaired.01:15
Freederoh, probably need to restart ssh01:16
waykool99problem was "Default Font = 96 DPI" i changed it to 112. bad idea01:17
nharbeldoes anyone know where I can find info on setting up a wireless printer to use with my Ubuntu OS?01:25
Freederfigured it out, thanks for the chat jrib01:26
Freederthat user was set for sftp connections only01:26
jribFreeder: what ended up being the isuse?01:26
Freedergroup, rather01:27
jribFreeder: oh01:27
Freederfor bonus points, if its sftp only, does that user still need a shell?01:27
Freedernope01:28
Freedercool. Thanks again01:28
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nharbelwireless printer help anyone??01:33
Dr_Willis!cups01:33
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu01:33
Dr_Willis!printing01:33
Dr_Willisnharbel:  give the channels details of what you have done and what the issue is.01:33
licensedhello. i would like to make a ubuntu live usb bootable with persistence mode (i want to keep changes on usb disk). i tried to use fdisk like a tutorial i saw, but didn't worked.01:34
Dr_Willislicensed:  you used fdisk to do what exactly?01:34
Dr_WillisTheres dozens of tools that can make a live-usb and auto-generate the Persistnt save file01:34
licensedcan you tell me one or two? linux tools please (i dont have windows machine)01:35
Dr_Willissee the Pendrivelinux web site for a dozen or more of them01:35
licensedi tried fdisk method described here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent01:35
nharbelWillis - I'll read thru the pages you suggested and go from there. thanks for the info.01:35
Dr_WillisThe official Ubuntu tool can also do it. - as can Unetbootin, LILI, and perhaps a dozen+ more i cant recall the names of.01:35
licensedDr_Willis, great, man!! thank you01:35
licensedunetbootin can't. i tried too01:35
licensedLILI its for windows only01:36
Dr_Willisunetbootin can make a live=persistant save i seem to recall01:36
Dr_WillisI alwyas use the tools from Pendrivelinux web site01:36
Dr_Willisi like the multisystem  tool that can put several ISO's on the same usb01:36
licensedDr_Willis, multisystem tools looks great! but this time i need 1 distro only (i am creating one hard disk to specific use)01:37
licensedthank you i will see this website.01:37
fixait‘s so quite!01:43
__[DIAPER]__Diaper01:50
SonikkuAmericaUm...01:50
OerHeksyeah, http://www.cafepress.com/+logoubuntu_diaper_cover,75593738401:53
OerHeksbut lets get back ontopic01:53
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User_007Hwllo, i need help sharing my wireless internet via ethernet.01:54
User_007i am using 13.04 amd6401:54
cfhowlett!ics|User_007,01:54
ubottuUser_007,: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing01:54
User_007cfhowlett, but i want to share it using a rj45 cable, not wireless01:56
User_007like :  internet >(wifi)> laptop >(cable)> device01:57
User_007i just followed most tutorials on web.. I can ping/ssh the device.. i can access internet on laptop, but not access internet on device01:58
User_007and it sends the packet to the laptop (seen on traceroute)01:58
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User_007please help!!02:01
OerHeksthere is a specific page for that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyWirelessToWiredConnectionSharing02:02
RedRyderI am new to Ubuntu. I have been trying to download and install MySQL. I have tried apt-get, yum, the Software Center and have downloaded it from MySQL. Nothing I do seems to work. It appears to install and then I can't find it  or access it. Would someone please email me a step by step so I can get my OpenSim Grids up on linux and off my win8 box? My email is stephen@redryderent.com Thanks in advance.02:03
OerHeksbut the last part resolve conf is out of date, AFAIK02:03
OerHeksRedRyder, you need apache to serve a mysql database02:04
RedRyderOkay. So how do I go about doing that?02:05
OerHekslamp linux apache mysql/mariadb php02:05
OerHeks!lamp02:05
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.02:05
wilee-nileeRedRyder, yum is fedora02:05
wilee-nileeor arch I forget02:06
SonikkuAmericaOr CentOS or RHEL02:06
OerHeksanyway, not debian package manager02:06
SonikkuAmericaArch is AUR, but apt and yum both exist for it02:06
RedRyderI know yum is for fedora but I even downloaded Alien to try and get this .02:06
PiciRedRyder: so you used apt, and did it do something?02:07
RedRyderIs (lamp linux apache mysql/mariadb php ) a terminal line command?02:08
cfhowlett!lamp|RedRyder,02:08
ubottuRedRyder,: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.02:08
PiciRedRyder: see ubottu's message02:08
RedRyderWhen I used apt it downloaded and installed but I had no access.02:09
akurilinQuick question. Does "mount" take in consideration the various switches one can specify in fstab?02:12
RedRyderI'm going to the help site and follow the steps. I will let you know if it gets the proper results. Thanks.02:13
thumbeene1 familiar with basic config for a secondary namenode in hadoop02:13
Freederargh02:15
FreederWhy would uncommenting #AllowUsers user1   in sshd_config cause sshd to error and exit?02:15
daftykinsFreeder: if user1 didn't exist case sensitive? :>02:16
daftykinsi don't even know, i'm drunk and guessing02:16
daftykinsbut i hate to see someone not replied to <302:16
Freederheh02:16
Freederthe user exists02:16
SirisianOdd. I can't update the time in my ubuntu server. It has ntp installed but the time somehow drifted too far. I stopped the server and ran ntpdate -s time.nist.gov and it does nothing.02:17
Sirisianoh ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com worked. Odd02:19
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JevinySo guys, I'm needing some help.02:25
SonikkuAmericaState your question. :-)02:26
Moonlightning!ask | Jeviny02:26
ubottuJeviny: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:26
JevinyAlright, thanks. Recently I've gotten a computer from work, it's a Dell Optiplex 755. Though there's an issue: The only way for me to connect to the internet is to use a router, and the fastest one I could find was a Netgear A6200 from Wal-mart. The drivers are only on Windows, and I'm trying to figure out how I could possibly get it to work. This is a serious issue for me, and all help is highly appreciated.02:28
mimi2323hey02:29
mimi2323hey J-202:29
SonikkuAmericaJeviny: Have you installed Ubuntu on the machine already.02:30
J-2my wifi is non existent in ubuntu 12.10 lts, but works fine in backtrack 5 any idea why? here is my terminal output: http://pastebin.com/e9J4WsnT02:30
JevinyNo, not yet. I want to know before I install it. My plan is to install windows on a backup partition, and install Ubuntu on the next.02:30
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J-204:01.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)02:30
J-2go figure02:30
mimi2323hey guys answer back02:31
SonikkuAmericaJeviny: Do you have a Live image of Ubuntu on a DVD or USB stick?02:32
JevinyYes.02:32
SonikkuAmerica!ot | mimi232302:32
ubottumimi2323: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:32
SonikkuAmericaJeviny: Go ahead and boot from it, try Ubuntu without installing, and try to connect to the Internet.02:33
MoonlightningJeviny: I believe what router you have is (somewhat) irrelevant—the drivers Ubuntu needs are for the laptop's Wi-Fi card, not for any specific router.02:33
rob____does anyone know why the ubuntu option wont show up when i restart my computer?  dual booted and running windows 7... I can see the partitioned disc created though02:34
JevinyRob, download EasyBCD, check the boot menu.02:34
SonikkuAmerica!pm| mimi232302:34
ubottumimi2323: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.02:34
Moonlightning(/somewhat/ irrelevant: if, for example, your laptop and router don't support a common frequency, you won't be able to connect at all)02:34
Moonlightning(Or even see the network the router broadcasts)02:34
JevinyWelp, wish me luck, all.02:34
MoonlightningGood luck, Jeviny. :)02:35
JevinyTack.02:35
mimi2323that's bullshit #SonikkuAmerica02:35
Learn2swim13Anyne out there who is very familiar with rtmpdump in linux and scripts. I have a script i use in windows for a specific website. And im stumped at how to acomplish the same thing in linux02:36
mimi2323hahahahah funny02:37
mimi2323sonikku america pm now02:37
mimi2323ejat pm questions02:38
rob____so easybcd will give me the option too boot in windoze or ubuntu at start up?02:38
mimi2323rob pm if ok02:39
Moonlightning!pm | mimi232302:40
ubottumimi2323: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.02:40
mimi2323how do you ask a guy out02:41
Moonlightning!ot | mimi232302:42
ubottumimi2323: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:42
MoonlightningI have a machine running Ubuntu Server on an encrypted LVM, with an encrypted swap partition. When I boot, I get a message that "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/<hostname>-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present." That stays up for twenty seconds or so, then I get the normal login prompt. Immediately after I log in, `swapon -s` shows that swap is okay.02:43
Moonlightning/etc/crypttab has no mention of <hostname>-swap_1, only cryptswap1. /etc/fstab has (otherwise) identical lines for both. Given that cryptswap1 seems to be working fine on its own, is just getting rid of <hostname>-swap_1 the best thing to do? And how exactly would I do it?02:43
rob____anyone i can pm for help?02:44
owdjaodopjI have a wifi card (netgear wgv112v2) and a Broadcom BCM4318... neither can scan for\connect to WEP networks but can connect to WPA\2... but my laptop with a BCM4313 can connect to both? Isn't WEP older than WPA\2? This makes no sense.02:44
Moonlightning!pm | rob____02:45
ubotturob____: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.02:45
Moonlightningowdjaodopj: I can understand not supporting WEP. All it does is give you a false sense of security.02:46
MoonlightningWEP can be cracked very, /very/ easily. Try googling for something.02:46
rohyhello02:49
HateYoFaceSOOOOOOO happy i finally got my razer nostromos gaming keypad working in ubuntu02:50
msxHateYoFace: lol! what was the problem!?02:50
HateYoFaceim just a ubuntu noob and didnt know how to install the drivers02:51
msxisn't suppose that a usb keyboard must work by just plugging it in!?02:51
rohyi'm trying to install ubuntu from minimal and i've manually installed the proprietary nvidia drivers. Is there a way to install xorg without all the xserver-xorg-video-* packages?02:51
HateYoFaceuuuuh ya but no i customise all my buttons so i needed a program to do it02:51
msxHateYoFace: ohh, drivers hell!! ok, now i understand your happiness :D02:51
HateYoFace**customize02:51
msxyes yes yes you're totally right02:52
msxby the wa02:52
msxy how did you do it!?02:52
HateYoFacehad to install keyboard master now playing Wow is just as good as playing on windows if not better02:52
HateYoFace**WoW02:52
msxcool, congratz!02:53
mimi2323how to download software such as itunes on computer when i try to download on ubuntu it wont let me open the file plz help02:53
HateYoFacei recently dumped windows and will never call that cold heartless cunt back02:54
buumimi2323: Why do you think ubuntu can run itunes?02:54
IdleOne!language | HateYoFace02:54
ubottuHateYoFace: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:54
mimi2323i just thought02:54
msxHateYoFace: lololololol02:55
sealbhachHateYoFace: Good for you, Windows is abusive02:55
msxwhat a great definition btw xD02:55
HateYoFacelol i knew that would get a few of you talking :P02:55
mimi2323buu: i just thought it would does it work02:55
rohymimi2323: there is no itunes for ubuntu, what you got was for windows and it doesn't work on ubuntu02:56
rohymaybe you could get it running with wine02:56
msxme too ditched windows back on 2007 thanks to ubuntu 7.0402:56
IdleOne!ot02:56
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:56
HateYoFacethe only thing that sucks is i wont be able to play battlefeild :(02:56
msxalthough it's been almost 6 years now i don't use ubuntu anymore, i still owe it a lot02:56
HateYoFacesad day bro i love ubuntu02:57
msxHateYoFace: what's the issue?02:57
msxHateYoFace: i'm all about kde ;)02:57
mimi2323so everyone you can't download itunes02:57
HateYoFaceas far as i know its not possible to play battlefeild 4 on ubuntu anytime soon maaaaaaaybe in wine but i cant imagine it running great02:58
msxmimi2323: did you tried running it on wine?02:58
buumimi2323: Install a virtual machine02:58
msxHateYoFace: yeah, you're right, may be at 30 fps or less :P02:58
mimi2323Msx/Buu: how do you do that02:58
HateYoFaceid be happy with 30 fps in all honesty lol as long as it ran half decent02:59
msxwell, the virtual machine will have a lot more overhead to your system and it will be a little more complicated to have itunes working on it the way you want with your *real* system02:59
HateYoFaceyou can install itunes with wine bro02:59
HateYoFacego cop that from the app store03:00
msxmimi2323: i would recommend to install wine ($ aptitude search wine), then downloading the itunes.exe file and giving a try with: $ wine itunes_installer.exe03:00
msxmimi2323: you might want to search the net as surely somebody may just have tried to run itunes on ubuntu03:00
HateYoFaceyoutube is your friend03:01
msxHateYoFace: I 2nd that03:01
HateYoFacewhats the most popular irc chat client for linux?03:03
buuIRSSI03:04
msxHateYoFace: there are a bunch03:05
msxin contrast to buu's choice, if we are talking of "console" clients i would go with weechat all the way03:06
Hw4ng3rHateYoFace: XChat and Konversation are also popular03:06
msxif you're running ubuntu your best choice might be xchat, though03:06
* Moonlightning uses weechat, loves it. x303:07
msxyeah, but konversation is pure kde and will pull a lot of dependencies on an ubuntu desktop03:07
msxif you're looking for a full-featured graphic client you might want to give quassel a try03:07
msxit's full Qt w/o any kde dependency03:07
msxand ubuntu/canonical is well known for embracing Qt lately...03:07
HateYoFaceya im using xchat its alright im used to using mirc but ill adjust03:10
msxHateYoFace: http://i.imgur.com/PXYGKBD.png03:11
msxi myself am a big fan of weechat as Moonlightning but since i've found there's a quassel client for android (as well as for weechat and irssi) i'd stick to with it03:11
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HateYoFaceubuntu 13.04 boots soooooooo fast on a ssd03:18
tjjI have an ubuntu server at home behind a NAT, and an ubuntu laptop that I use when I'm traveling. Is there some way to set up some kind of VPN-like thing so my laptop can act like it's on my home network?03:21
mimi2323how to download itunes03:22
Learn2swim13Anyone really familar with rtmpdump and scripts on linux? I have a script i run in windows for a specific website, i have been unsuccessful at modifying it and running it on linux03:22
Tylertwo!itunes03:23
ubottuitunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee03:23
Moonlightningtjj: you could set up an ssh tunnel, or an actual VPN.03:23
* Moonlightning has an actual VPN just for this purpose.03:23
IAmNotThatGuy mimi2323 You can run itunes only through Wine... Instead, try downloading the alternatives like RhythmBox and others03:23
tjjMoonlighting: Is there a web page or something that describes how to set up a vpn server?03:23
Moonlightningtjj: or something: #openvpn03:23
MoonlightningThey'll likely have some getting-started links in the topic, and you can hang around in the channel in case you get stuck. ^^03:24
tjjthanks03:24
HateYoFaceim just gonna live in this channel03:26
MoonlightningSure. ^^03:26
sealbhachHateYoFace: How fast is your boot?03:26
HateYoFaceive never timed it but im to the password screen in maaaaaybe 6-8 secs03:27
HateYoFaceafter bios screen has passed its like 6-8 secs03:27
HateYoFacerunnin an amd fx 8120 16 gb ddr3 120 gb ssd nvidia 660 ti03:29
sealbhachHateYoFace: That's pretty impressive.03:29
HateYoFacenot bad03:29
HateYoFacei threw it al together in a thermaltake level to gt case and liquid cooled it  shes my baby03:29
HateYoFaceand i had to throw in 2 2tb 7200 rpm drives as well you know to be a boss03:30
HateYoFaceeverythings fully hot swappable :)03:30
sealbhachHateYoFace: Sweet rig.03:31
HateYoFacei wanna put another 660 ti  in but id have to upgrade the power supply03:31
HateYoFacei think anyway not sure03:32
HateYoFacewhat are your guys thoughts on the asus sabertooth 990 fx boards? yeh neh?03:34
daftykinsSLI is rubbish03:34
sanjeevHello. I had my windows on C:\ and had D:\ as windows RECOVERY. I had deleted the partition C:\ and recreated using GPART. Now I have C:\ as RECOVERY and D:\ as normal NTFS. When i boot, i RECOVERY shown in the GRUB. When i try to RECOVER it is failing. I guess the issue is with swap of drive names. Can we correct that now?03:34
daftykins!boot-repair03:36
daftykinsaww03:36
sanjeevI guess if i change the Drive names i could potentially do a FACTORY RESTORE and proceed03:38
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sealbhachsanjeev: Can you still boot into Windows?03:39
sanjeevNo i cannot03:39
sanjeevThere is no installed windows on the HDD03:39
_root_do anyone you knows a file manager with automount capability ? (not thunar; it is of GVFS)03:39
thumbeeis there a way i can verify an apt-get install?03:39
daftykinshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair03:40
daftykinsthumbee: apt-get package installs *do* verify03:40
sealbhachsanjeev: So how will you do a factory restore?03:40
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daftykinssanjeev: ^ check out boot repair03:40
sanjeevsure Daftykins. I will see that03:40
thumbeedaftykins: im may have been unclear. i ran a "apt-get verify openjdk-7-jdk" and now i think the install may be been unsuccessful. im trying to verify that.03:41
sanjeevsealbhach: I can restore using the RECOVERY partition available. now C:\03:41
thumbeeapt-get package installs openjdk-7-jdk verify  <-- correct?03:41
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Tylertwo_root_, it seems like most file managers will automount. Nautilus and Pcmanfm do.03:42
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HateYoFacehow do i register with this irc channel?03:44
daftykinsthumbee: did you remove any pre-existing open java packages?03:44
daftykinsHateYoFace: join #freenode for network help. thats not for this channel03:44
sanjeevdaftykins: I donot have a valid WINDOWS installation to which i can point to. I dont see any option to change the drive names. Is that possible by this "BOOT REPAIR". I dont have a MBR as well.03:44
thumbeedaftykins: nope.03:44
daftykinssanjeev: that page should've had some instructions for making a downloadable ISO up on a CD-R or USB flash drive03:45
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wilee-nilee!register03:46
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode03:46
sanjeevdaftykins: I am afraid after all the mess that i have done with partitions, i could potentially mess up with my RECOVERY partition potentially losing the option of RECOVERY03:46
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daftykinssanjeev: ok, i can't help any further tonight as it's 5am my time. i'm sure wilee-nilee is free though ^_^03:47
_root_HateYoFace, /msdg NickServ register you@youremail.com yourpass (i think)03:47
HateYoFacei googled it thanks :)03:47
daftykinsregistration is beyond the topic of this channel03:47
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wilee-nileesanjeev: you post the bootinfo summary yet from bootrepair?03:49
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T20nanyone using truecrypt03:58
La_Impostorahii04:00
lotuspsychjeT20n: best is to shoot your specific issue in channel mate04:01
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lotuspsychje!test | La_Impostora04:01
ubottuLa_Impostora: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )04:01
T20nlotuspsychje: want to have ubuntu multiboot with hidden win7 partition04:01
La_ImpostoraxD04:01
lotuspsychjeT20n: not sure mate sorry, have too low experience with encryption... are you trying to encrypt your win7 partition from ubuntu?04:03
lotuspsychje!encrypt | T20n04:03
ubottuT20n: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory04:03
T20nlotuspsychje: presently I only have win7 installed, want to hide it and have ubuntu showing up at normal boot04:04
lotuspsychjeT20n: not sure how encryption will help you with this, but you can install ubuntu dualboot with win7, then edit your grub so ubuntu boots as default04:06
lotuspsychje!dualboot | T20n04:06
ubottuT20n: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot04:06
T20nlotuspsychje: well, I think purpose of encryption is to hide win7. thanks.04:07
RoDiMuS-Xencryption wont hide windows but make it unreadable, take a look at using windows bitlocker04:08
daftykinsalthough bitlocker is arguably useless against the NSA depending upon your own personal level of paranoia04:10
xarseshello, I'm on ubuntu 13.10 with a dell XPS 13. I've been updating near daily, but first reboot in about 2 weeks. After rebooting, I've found that can no longer receive DHCP addresses from the network on wired or wireless connections. I've performed a dist-upgrade as a per-cation with no result. using 3.10.0-5-generic kernel, cant use newer as the Dell XPS backlight issue is back in the newer revisions again. Would love to have some hel04:14
lotuspsychje!13.10 | xarses04:14
ubottuxarses: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.04:14
xarseslotuspsychje: ty04:16
thumbeeany idea what i should do if i tried installing Eclipse from Ubunutu Software Center and the icon didnt show up on the left taskbar ? :(04:20
s2013bunch of files ive written are now lost. wtf04:27
inetkhow to turn off animation of displaying dialog in 13.04   it is too slow for me04:27
psypsyerrr, so, do i go here to get some technical help?04:29
cfhowlett!ask}psypsy,04:30
TheRC51Would some one be willing to help me with installing Nvidia drivers? I seem to be having issues when I go to a new shell via ctrl+alt+F104:30
cfhowlett!ask|psypsy,04:30
ubottupsypsy,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:30
psypsy!ask04:31
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:31
psypsylol, i see04:31
inetk!patience04:31
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/04:31
psypsyOk, well. I'm running 12.04 on a acer C7 chromebook. I am trying to share an internet connection from my wireless (wlan0) to my ethernet (eth1). My xbox360 will be on the other end of eth1. however, it doesn't quite work. it says it can connect on the network, but cannot connect to the internet. what do?04:33
thumbeeerr. trying to add eclipse (developer) to my ubuntu taskbar (it didnt show up after install). but gettering any error when pinning it. specifically the "Categories=Development;"04:35
thumbeeapparently that doesnt exist?04:35
cfhowlett!ics|psypsy,   might help.  I've not done what your attempting, so I know nothing more to suggest.04:38
SetFACLAfter hours of effort, I have managed to ensure my umask for a specific user is a desired 077.  ...but only on the command line.  Nautilus doesn't seem to respect it, along with most Gnome apps.04:38
ubottupsypsy,   might help.  I've not done what your attempting, so I know nothing more to suggest.: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing04:38
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SetFACLWhat might I be doing wrong?04:38
Armegedensyntax question: i have ubuntu server and i'm trying to run dynamips in the background with: sudo ./dynamips-0.2.8-RC3-community-x86_64.bin -H 7200 & -----yet when i hit "enter" again after launching it, it closes/stops.04:39
Dr_WillisSetFACL:  how are you setting it?04:39
cfhowlett!ubuntu-server|Armegeden,04:39
ubottuArmegeden,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server04:39
SetFACLDr_Willis:  in a number of ways.  To be honest, I'm not sure which one finally took.  /etc/pam.d/common-session, /etc/login.defs, ~/.profile.04:40
Armegedenah, specific server channel. i assume that's the point of that trigger04:40
SetFACLReally, I just want a 077 umask on all newly-created files in my DE of choice.  All the documentation I have found about this is regarding the command line.04:43
thumbeei just apt-get install eclipse. but it goes "Setting up eclipse (3.7.2-1) ..." then nothing :s04:44
rypervenchethumbee: Then it's installed :)04:44
Guest61800type which eclipse in command line04:44
thumbeeok. ill try that04:44
thumbeesry im noob :P04:45
thumbeehahah DUH..04:45
SetFACLthumbee:  pretty heavy editor for a newbie.  :304:46
Dr_Willisthey should make it  run the command      cowsay 'Eclipse is installed! Yea'04:46
Dr_Williswhen it done.04:46
thumbeei would agree04:47
thumbee!04:47
thumbeeSetFACL: :(04:47
excalibrIs the final build out? or when it will be?04:48
excalibr13.10 iso i meant04:48
inetkhow to turn off animation of displaying dialog in 13.04   it is too slow for me04:49
excalibrinetk: in compiz config manager04:49
SetFACLJust the final beta, which is what I am running, and struggling with.04:49
Dr_Willis!ccsm04:49
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz04:49
excalibrSetFACL: struggling? what's wrong04:50
SetFACLexcalibr:  series of problems.  Can't blame them all on Ubuntu.  Part of it is running bleeding-edge Gnome.04:50
tjjIf I have an init script in /etc/init/ how do I make the service not start on system start?04:51
Dr_Willistjj:  for upstart theres severl ways. easy way is to (for example)   rename   servicename.conf to  servicename.DONTRUN04:51
Dr_Willistjj:  the upstart cookbook site details other ways04:52
Dr_Willis!upstart04:52
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/04:52
tjjDr_Willis: ah okay, the DONTRUN thing seems easy/intuitive, I'll do that04:53
excalibrtjj: echo manual > /etc/init/service.override04:53
Dr_Willistjj:  how to do it can depend on your exact version of ubuntu/upstart also.04:53
tjjDr_Willis: It's 13.04, so whatever came with that04:53
Dr_Willistjj:  the override stuff should work on the newer ubuntu releases. im not sure about older ones04:53
tjjexcalibr: I'll totally never remember to check /etc/init/service.override when I'm trying to figure out why the service doesn't start later on04:54
Dr_Willis;)04:54
Dr_Willis theres also editing the .conf file i rcall as a 3rd way.04:54
tjjIs there some kind of UI?04:55
Dr_WillisNot seen any, never needed any. ;)04:55
Dr_Willisnot sure if any exist04:55
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Dr_Willisyou could alwyas stop the service from rc.local :) as a dirty way also04:55
tjjah hah http://askubuntu.com/questions/3341/is-there-any-gui-tool-for-upstart04:56
Dr_Willisand they say? No? Yes? Who needs one? ;P04:56
tjjthey say "jobs-admin" is the gui04:56
Dr_Williscant say ive ever used it04:57
tjjalthough disturbingly it doesn't show my custom .conf files as jobs04:58
Dr_WillisI cant wait for all the mass gnashing of teeth and wailing of people when systemd gets implmented. ;)05:01
skinoCan anyone give me details on where I can download ubuntu for my samsung galaxy s4.05:01
Dr_Willis!touch | skino05:02
ubottuskino: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch05:02
Dr_Willisdont be suprised if it dosent work all that great. :) its still a work in pogress05:02
Dr_WillisI need to put it on my Nexus 7 someday. but i cant really see a point in doing it.05:02
skinoAh right its been a while since I have used abuntu and I thought id give it a go.... think il leave it for a while ha05:04
Dr_Willisthe focus in the foreseeable futyre is on the touch platform i hear. Hope that dosent come at a cost to the Desktop user base.05:04
Dr_Willisive seen companies refocus their  goals befor.. and really really get their user base annoyed.05:05
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wilee-nileeDr_Willis, Who, canonical, never lol.05:06
wilee-nilee;)05:06
Dr_Williswilee-nilee:  i was thinking of Apple, good old Commodore Amiga, the Boxee Box guys...05:06
skinoWell I must admit I used ubuntu when it was still 8.0 I think it was and I aint used it till yesterday. ... im well imoressed so far.  Makes it easier for idiots like ne ha ha05:06
HateYoFacei had a boxee box remote took a crap on me havent touched it since05:06
Dr_Willis!manual | skino05:07
ubottuskino: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/05:07
adv_Hi all Good Morning05:07
wilee-nileeah, never had a problem with ubuntu myself it's all about adaptation in the end for me.05:07
Dr_WillisHateYoFace:  they are handy devices still.  you can get remote apps for your phone.  But sadly the few 'channels' i watched on the boxee box. are no longer supported/working. ;(05:07
Dr_WillisHateYoFace:  and my Raspberry Pi - works better as a XBMC player device.05:07
skinoIm a commercial photographer and I used a lot of raw fioes wich back then you had to really dig deap to get work arounds and wasnt worth it then05:08
HateYoFacei cant cuz im retarded and bought the htc windows phone05:08
skinoBut thier seems to be more stuff now05:08
Dr_WillisHateYoFace:  theres xbmc remote plugins for firefox (or chrome?) that let you remote the xbmc players from a PC  also.05:09
Dr_WillisHateYoFace:  or get one of those $15 remotes that emulate a keyboard.05:09
HateYoFacei just hook up my 42'' with a 15 ft hdmi cord and run video off my pc05:11
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Dr_WillisIve got so many differnt players its scary. :)   Wife watches her 24/7  - Im suprised its still working after 4+ years of constant use05:12
Dr_Williswith the new Smart Tv's  dont even need most of the players any more.  Plex Server on PC. and Plex Channel on the tv = handy way to watch my videos05:13
apbHello... trying to get sound working on 12.04 server....  looked at a bunch of pages but I get the feeling this requires more of a personalized touch... various pages take different approaches, none give me a warm fuzzy about changing things.05:14
apbworse, I'm using kubuntu for the very first time... so I'm pretty far out of my element..  quassel irc... konq....  oh the pain....05:17
Dr_Willissudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  and try them both. ;)05:17
Dr_Willisubuntu uses pulse audio as a front end  over alsa. not sure about kubuntu05:17
apbno, I'll get use to this one... eventually.05:17
WDaviskubuntu is my primary OS05:17
Dr_Willisits trivial to install both and select what you want at the login screen05:17
Dr_WillisBeen testing out RazorQt lately05:18
apbI'd show you the output of pulseaudio if I could figure out how to copy & paste :/05:18
Dr_Willisuse a pastebin web site please apb05:18
Dr_Willis!pastebin05:18
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.05:18
Dr_Williscommand | pastebinit05:18
Dr_Willis!pastebinit05:18
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com05:18
apbhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6229728/05:21
adv_bye 4 now05:21
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Guest39656how can i search for all the png files under one directory ?05:22
Guest39656or .mp3 files under one directory ?05:22
Dr_Willisthe 'find' command can search for a pattern of files (and 10000x othe things)05:22
Dr_Willisor the locate command  (but thats a bit more overkill)05:23
apbGuest39656: find /path/to/dir -name "*png"05:23
Dr_Willisls -R  | grep mp3          ;)  is a nother way i geuss05:23
apbDr_Willis: Here's the output of pulseaudio http://paste.ubuntu.com/6229728/05:23
Dr_Willisfind can use regular expressions - so can get quite powerfill05:24
Dr_Willisapb:  i knwo very little about sound trouble shooting. Plus im on a console only raspberry pi. so got no browser05:24
apboh ok... thank you anyway05:24
Dr_Willistheres other sound experts in here from time to time.05:24
jeanepaul_hi, i need some help about my system. i cant boot my ubuntu, i tried everything from the internet like e2fsck on live cd. i still get an error target filesystem doesnt have requested /sbin/init..05:24
* apb listens for a sound expert05:24
Dr_Willisif you are using Kubuntu - i dident think kbuuntu used pulse audio.05:25
Dr_Willisbut i could be wrong. ;P05:25
apbdon't really know05:25
apbit's something I saw someone mention somewhere... but there was no context05:25
apblots of guesses out there05:25
apbtry this... try that05:25
Dr_Willisjeanepaul_:  sounds like its trying to boot the wrong disk, or initrd/root is defined wrong. Tried that boot-repair tool?05:25
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apbI'm sure someone that knows what they're doing can help :)05:26
Wughey guys, I've got a question05:26
Dr_Willisapb:  last sound issues i had.. was fixed by a single checkbox/change in one of the config gui's :)  doing all this other stuff may dig the hole deeper for your problems.05:26
jeanepaul_i tried boot-repair tool05:26
Wugsay I've got a gedit session running over ssh and it's editing files I want to edit05:26
apbDr_Willis: Precisely why I came here instead of randomly changing stuff05:26
Dr_Willisapb:  does the live cd's work at all with sound? tried the latest live cd's tried the beta live cds?05:26
jeanepaul_installed it to a usb but it wont boot05:26
Wugis there a way I can kill it and get it to save its current edits without having access to its UI?05:27
apbDr_Willis: I don't know... no I haven't tried.05:27
Dr_WillisWug:  not that i know of.05:27
WugI don't suppose it handles sigquit or something?05:27
Dr_WillisWug:   ive never seen it work that way. I tend to use console/text only editors over ssh. not gui ones. :)05:27
apbDr_Willis: It may have to do with a missing module... or something else.  Really not sure.  Over my head, not a sound expert either05:27
WugDr_Willis: the same question could be asked of vim or emacs05:28
Wugthough the answers will be different.  How do you do it with those?05:28
Dr_Willisapb:  while you wait. you may as well grab the latest iso files and test them out. If for example 13.04 works and 12.04 dosent. that would point to some possible kernel differance/driver differanes and you could see what modules are in use05:28
apbDr_Willis: No, I can't mess with it.  Rather do without sound then mess with what I have now.05:29
Dr_WillisWug:  personally i ssh in, use screen, or tmux, or byobu, then i dont have to force the editor to quit. the session stays alive if i disconnect05:29
Dr_Willisapb:  what do you have setup now thats so critical?05:29
apbthis isn't a test system, at the moment it's my only system so I'm in a tight spot05:29
apbDr_Willis: asterisk05:29
Dr_Williscant say ive ever used that. :)05:30
wilee-nileejeanepaul_, You have the usb first read in the bios?05:30
apbDr_Willis: it's not for the timid :)  I spent 6 months learning how to set it up in a virtual environment... then moved it to this physical machine about a month ago.05:31
jeanepaul_wilee-nilee: yes i think i got it right. will try again. i am stuck with this since yesterday and i cant go on with my projects this weekend05:31
apbDr_Willis: Then my windoze machine died a hairy death, and while I'm waiting for parts I figured I'd at least watch hulu and/or youtube while I wait for the mail to arrive some day.05:32
wilee-nileejeanepaul_, There is also a outside the bios per session boot menu, the gui you first see when booting should tell you the key prompt for it.05:33
apbso I can do without if I have to... only my sanity is at stake05:33
Dr_Willistesting with a live cd - is not goign to damgge yur current setup. ;)05:33
Dr_Williserr.. if you got it setup in a VM. you can clone the vm to any new install or so ive seen.   that makes it even easier. but im just sayign to test the live cd. not upgrade the system05:34
apbit may damage my sanity which is in a precarious situation right now05:34
jeanepaul_wilee-nilee: outside bios? i did not know that. i just set on my bios to boot first on my usb drive, save and exit. and all i cant get is a blinking underline05:35
Dr_Willisapb:  to watch Crunchyroll.com - its all anime with subtitles. :) no need for sound.05:35
apbdefinitely better than nothing05:35
wilee-nileejeanepaul_, On my computer it is f12 at powering on.05:35
Dr_Willisjeanepaul_:  ive seen esc, f1, f2, F8 f8, delete and backspace also get to bios05:36
Dr_WillisEvery new pc/laptop i get i tend to put a little sticker by the key that gets to the bios. ;) i have had so many over the years05:36
Dr_Willispeople winder whats with the little stickers on eveyr pc ;P05:36
jeanepaul_wilee-nilee: its delete on my computer05:36
apbDEL gets to my BIOS05:36
Dr_Willisasus here - its delete.  My EEE netbook its F2 or esc.05:36
apbOops...  Delete on this keyboard05:37
Dr_Willisactually ive seen some that have keys just for getting to the 'pick what hd to boot'05:37
Dr_Willisthen theres keys to get to the full bios.05:37
apbF8 picks the HD here05:37
apbSo getting to windoze safe boot requires good timing :)05:37
Dr_Willisapb:  yep. ;)  seen that also05:38
apbthere's something to be said for standards05:38
Dr_Willisreally makes ya wonder why they pick some of these keys05:38
apbI talked to a BIOS programmer many years ago.... I was not impressed.05:38
Dr_Willisi definatly have seen keybaords that dont have a F* key unless you rember to hold down a FN- key also. that can really goof you up.05:39
apbHave you seen the early BIOS's?  Lord.... it makes you wonder if these guys have thumbs.05:39
apbany sound experts arrive in the last little while?  Got sound problems here....05:41
sl33kI would like to install windows in my virtual box. But i dont have an iso. is there any virtaul machine software that already has windows iso?05:42
Andrew_anyne know xorg config for dell optiplex 96005:45
apbjeez..... people pming me and I didn't even know it... now they're gone... why do people do that?05:46
Andrew_actually just having problems with monitor/screen setup with xorg.05:46
apbit sees the hardware.... so it doesn't look like an ALSA problem I don't think?05:51
jeanepaul_wilee-nilee: it did not boot at first try, second try it booted. now inside boot-repair05:51
Dr_Willissl33k:  find a windows cd. make an iso. thers also legal ways to buy legal copies of windows on iso files.  and free/legal downloads if you allready own windows and have a valid key #  i recall seeing on lifehacker web site once.05:54
jeanepaul_wilee-nilee: i cant boot repair, please connect internet. but my networking on this machine is not working too05:55
Dr_Willisapb:  theres apps that use alsa directly bypassing pulse audio. if those would work. then that would point to a pulse config issue05:55
Dr_Willisapb:  i also recall twiddling with the pavucontrol tool once to get my HDMI audio working   it was defaulting to the analog.05:55
jeanepaul_wilee-nilee: should i try advance options > repair file systems?05:56
apbyeah, I saw someone mention pavucontrol somewhere...  I don't want to just randomly try stuff.05:56
Dr_Willisi noticed the issue when i saw that the pavumeter tool was showing sound playing, but not hearing anything =- that pointed me to it being a mixer/output selection issue05:56
Dr_Willisif you dont try stuff you will never get anywhere i imagine05:57
apbSee that's something I could try... mixer05:57
Dr_Willisjust rember what its set at to set it back05:57
Dr_Willispavucontrol shows what all hardware is detected i recall also05:57
Dr_Willisare you using HDMI audio? or analog out? or somthing else?05:57
apbwell "Kinfocenter" shows what hardware is detected05:57
apbas does lspci05:57
apbkinfocenter is telling me that it's being seen by ALSA05:58
apbwhatever the heck that is05:58
Dr_Willis!alsa05:58
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.05:58
Dr_Willisalsa is the core sound driver system for linux sound.05:58
Dr_Willispulse audio runs on top of alsa05:58
apbok that's helpful to know05:59
Dr_WillisNot sure what kde uses instead of pulse. or if it uses pulse05:59
apbthough i'm still not sure what pulse audio does?05:59
Dr_Willisyou might want to ask in #kubuntu05:59
Dr_WillisPulse adds features to the sound system.  allows several apps to play sound at the same time and so forth05:59
apbok that's helpful05:59
Dr_Willisselect output on the fly, and other fetures people expect these days05:59
apblet me check on the volume applet and see what that has to say for itself... I was in there once before but...   let me see again.06:01
apbif I can find it again :/06:01
Dr_Willisbe sure it has the right output speakers selected. ;)  and device. if it lets you do that06:01
Dr_Willisshould be a speaker test tool also somewhere06:01
Guest39656apb and Dr_Willis thanks06:02
apboh there's something called phonon06:02
apbwhich seems to be some kind of audio app thingy06:02
apbGuest39656: np06:02
Dr_Willisive basically given up on KDE. ;) qtrazor however shows promise.06:02
apbDr_Willis: sound and video config06:03
Dr_Willisbut my main machines these days are now netbooks and raspberry pis.06:03
Dr_Willisdownsizeing in more ways then one.06:03
apbeverything I've tried says the device is there... but I just get no sound06:06
Dr_Willisthat points to  a mixer, or selected output device issue then tome06:07
apbwell, "phonon" has audio hardware setup... with a test button.06:07
Dr_Willistheres some sort of audio tools out that show a volume meter going up and down as you play sound06:08
Dr_Willisyou dont have your headphones plugged in at the same time? ;) (been there, did that heh)06:08
apbonly headphones actually06:08
apbat the moment06:08
apbdirectly into the card06:08
reisioheh06:08
Guest39656when i am making script excuting multiple commands, do i have to enter ";" after each command or i should just start the new command on the new line ?06:09
Dr_Willisid check askubuntu.com - there may be some  info on getting heaphones selected.06:09
Dr_WillisI had a headphone jack/adaptor plugged in once. (but no phones plugged in) = 2 hrs sound trouble shooting.. to realize i just had to unplug the thing.06:09
reisioheadphones selected?06:09
apbit's just the output port on the card... shouldn't have to seleect anything06:09
Dr_WillisGuest39656:  on a script - a new line per command is easier to read06:09
Guest39656Dr_Willis, ok06:09
reisiounless it isn't :)06:10
apbGuest39656: Some commands require a ; depends on what you're doing06:10
Dr_Willisapb:   i think may cards these days can change what output is wht. it may not realize it is a headphone and think its like the rear audio plugged in or somthing06:10
jeanepaul_i still cant get it work. on my boot-info, i get lots of 'Disk /dev/mapper/mainserver--ub--vg-root doesnt contain a valid partition table'06:10
apbDr_Willis: I should mention that this is a semi-ancient machine06:10
apbit's a dell 8100 handmedown06:11
Guest39656apd, would it be better if i apply ; in all those command ?06:11
Dr_Willisapb:  ive seen dynamic/sensing sound cards 10 yrs agi.06:11
apbGuest39656: no06:11
Guest39656or when is ; used ?06:11
apbGuest39656: If you get errors... then worry about it06:11
apbDr_Willis: I would think I'd get at least some kind of something... right now it's dead quiet06:12
Dr_Willisapb:  try the other jacks perhaps.06:12
Guest39656apb, i can check wether script ran without error by checking exit status  $?06:12
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Guest39656and if i explicitly got any errors.06:12
apbGuest39656: Or you could just look at it and see if it gives an error06:12
apbDr_Willis: ok06:13
apbDr_Willis: although I believe the three ports are mic, speaker out, line in - in that order06:13
apbleft to right06:13
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jeanepaul_Dr_Willis: should i just install new ubuntu to other disk and recover all files from not working installation of ubuntu?06:14
Guest39656apb, ok06:14
Dr_Willisjeanepaul_:  or just use a live cd to recover the files perhaps.06:14
apbholy crap.... I think this thing has 5 ports!!!!06:15
jeanepaul_Dr_Willis: i need to recover all dev_vms. if i could just recover them, i would never have problems.. will try recovering it from a live cd06:15
Dr_Willisim not even suer what a dev_vms is. ;)06:15
jeanepaul_Dr_Willis: oh, its my development_virtual machinces :)06:16
jeanepaul_Dr_Willis: its where i get a living from my day to day work and stuck in my ubuntu-server06:16
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bl4ckdu5tHow can I install quicktime on chromium-browser06:18
reisiobl4ckdu5t: you'd probably want browser-plugin-vlc or gecko-mediaplayer06:20
bl4ckdu5treisio: Do you mean I should do an apt-download of that06:21
amh345evening all.   i have a ubuntu server setup here. I'm looking for a way to sandbox this server.  i had previously had it setup behind its own router which i would vpn to to connect.  but it was a big mess to setup. is there an idea way to have a machine off the grid, yet somewhat on?  or am i over thinking all of this?06:22
reisiobl4ckdu5t: apt-get, or use software center, sure06:22
reisioamh345: proxy is about as well as you can do06:22
reisiowhich is what a vpn is, basically06:22
ryorky1I just reinstalled ubuntu 12.0.4 and my screen will not turn off when my computer has been  inactive.  Any ideas how to solve this?06:22
reisioryorky1: ordinary Ubuntu?06:23
amh345reisio: so is a router that this machines connected to behind another router (that has all my consoles and stuff on) worth doing?06:23
ryorky1reisio:  yes, ubuntu version 12.0.406:23
reisioI guess it depends on how long it takes you06:23
ryorky1reisio:  any ideas?06:24
reisioryorky1: what make/model?06:24
amh345the end goal here is i have a machine with all my special data.. dev stuff. etc etc. backups. that is somewhat protected.. but that i can ALSO remote/vpn into when I'm offsite.06:24
canaima17242someone can help me?06:24
amh345i'd also like to develop off of it.  ugh. maybe I'm asking for too much.06:24
reisioamh345: theoretically not any more protected06:25
ryorky1reisio:  hp pavillion dv6.  it worked until I recently reinstalled06:25
reisiocanaima17242: ...with?06:25
reisioryorky1: why'd you reinstall?06:25
amh345because it's still hooked through the other router, reisio ?06:25
canaima17242how i can install firefox? im  noob :(06:25
reisioif you can reach it, anyone can06:25
amh345right.06:25
ryorky1reisio:  was having some issues w/ apache06:25
reisioyou could slow someone down by making it more complex06:25
reisiobut it'll also slow you down06:26
amh345ok, so it would be about the same to lock this sandboxed server down and just throw it on the network?06:26
canaima17242im not user linux :S06:26
reisioamh345: it'd be close enough06:26
reisioamh345: your time :)06:26
reisiocanaima17242: open software center, look for firefox06:27
amh345when i had the vpn through the one router to the router that has the machine- i could never get it to work on my data connect.  and to top it off, my router bricked and i had to reset it. losing all the work i put into the mess of routing the vpn.06:27
Dr_Williscanaima17242:  last i looked - firefox was installed by default on ubuntu06:27
amh345so now I'm left sitting here.. trying to decide what to do with this.06:27
reisiobricked means you've turned a physical device into something as useful as a brick06:27
reisioit means you can't use it anymore06:27
reisioit doesn't mean you can press a button and it works again :)06:27
reisiojust saying06:27
reisiolot of people misusing that term lately06:27
jeanepaul_Dr_Willis: i could not see my files from primary disk. all i can see is external disks from live cd.. will reinstall ubuntu...06:27
amh345ok. SOFT bricked. if there is such a thing :/06:27
reisiothere isn't :)06:28
amh345hah06:28
reisiobut I know what you mean06:28
amh345ok, the password got corrupted. and i couldn't log in.06:28
Dr_Willisjeanepaul_:  did you properly mount them?06:28
amh345so i had to flash it.06:28
amh345anyways. do you have any recommendations for this?06:28
canaima17242my software is GNU/linux..that dont have software center :S06:28
reisioanother argument for using an ordinary GNU/Linux as a router06:28
reisiocanaima17242: it has if it's Ubuntu06:28
jeanepaul_Dr_Willis: how can i mount them from live_cd? from disk_utility?06:29
canaima17242ok.. srry.. :S06:29
Dr_Willisjeanepaul_:  proper use of the mount command is how i normally mount things06:29
amh345one of the other thoughts i had was to just put this machine off the network entirely and sit it on it's router by itself. then assign my eth0 on my laptop to that other router and have all other traffic go through wifi).  but even then. not good.06:30
reisioamh345: pay a beautiful model to personally filter commands send to one computer, and if appropriate, type them in manually into the special box06:30
amh345reisio: i thought about that.   she could 'intern'06:31
joobzhey guys.. where can i get the drivers / tools to manage a Adaptec ASR-2405 from Ubuntu 12.10 (quantal) .. ?06:31
reisio:p06:31
amh345she would get experience. while doing my bidding. one of her duties would be simple.  suntanning.06:31
joobzAdaptec's site seems to only support up to v11.. wondering if there is another repo that would have it06:31
hitsujiTMOamh345: there is such a thing as soft brick: it means one step away from brick ( such as performing a reboot )06:31
reisiojoobz: what's an asr-2405?06:31
joobzreisio, RAID card06:31
jeanepaul_Dr_Willis: tried mounting it on a terminal, 'unknown filesystem type LVM2_member'06:31
joobzI run it on my media center box06:32
amh345so after all this. I'm not really any closer to deciding on an approach to this mess.  i think I'm wanting the impossible.06:32
hitsujiTMOamh345: and usually a soft brick isn't a point that is not recoverable from either06:32
hitsujiTMOis*06:32
amh345hitsujiTMO: i just had to ref lash it because my pw was corrupt.06:32
amh345but it sucked because i had all my vpn stuff that took me forever to do-- configured.06:33
hitsujiTMOthats just a fuckup06:33
amh345and then.. i was defeated.06:33
hitsujiTMObackup as you go ftw!06:33
Dr_Willisjeanepaul_:  i dont use lvm. so all i can suggestis check out the lvm wiki pages.06:33
Dr_Willis!lvm | jeanepaul_06:33
ubottujeanepaul_: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto06:33
amh345well, i couldn't back up because i couldn't remember the password.  hah.06:33
Dr_Willisyou should have backuped your password onto a post-it-note06:33
amh345so i did something to reset the password, according to the docs. only there was a goof,,.. escaped char or something.. i don't recall. that basically made the password dead.06:34
reisiojoobz: ah06:34
reisiojoobz: what do you want raid for?06:34
amh345Dr_Willis: i now scan post it notes with passwords.  store them on my tablet.. behind a finger print.  only i lost my fingers. so now I'm screwed again.06:34
joobzreisio, i store my movies on there.. just wanted it there for redundancy so i dont lose my stuff06:34
hitsujiTMOamh345: one thing i learned from configing a cisco 3845: constantly backup the config as you go06:35
worstI've a question. On Windows I'm able to use the video slots on my motherboard and extend my desktop to them, with the rendering being done on my AMD 797006:36
amh345well guys, it's been a slice. but i think i need to go an investigate this shitty impossible idea i have in my brain.06:36
Dr_Willisworst:  i use multi monitors in ubuntu all the time. :)06:36
reisioamh345: hear hear06:36
lotuspsychje!language | amh34506:36
ubottuamh345: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:36
worstDr_Willis: I know mutli-monitors work06:37
amh345:/06:37
worstDr_Willis: My problem is I want to have 2 monitors plugged into my motherboard and 2 plugged into my video card06:37
worstOn windows I can extend the desktop  across despite the displays being on different video cards06:38
* sixy-home waves06:38
Dr_Willisworst:  it should be doable. if the drivers support that many. and the cards can do it.06:38
Dr_Willisworst:  ive done it befor with Nvidia cards.06:38
Dr_Willisbut with any over 2 - ive had issues in the past. (not tried it lately. my desk is too small)06:38
sixy-homeeverything lindows can do linux can! :)06:38
worstHm06:38
reisioxscreensaver even has BSOD06:39
sixy-homeworst, what do you mean by extend the desktop though06:39
* sixy-home waves reisio 06:39
worstsixy-home: I have 4 monitors. 2 of them plug into my video card and 2 into the slots on my motherboard.06:39
* reisio tides06:39
sixy-homeah i see worst, ok06:39
apbdoh!06:39
worstOn windows I'm able to have the screens work side-by-side06:40
sixy-homeso you can extend one desktop across all monitors?06:40
sixy-homeoh06:40
sixy-homeim 100% u can do that on linux too06:40
inetki forgot where to find the classic drop down menu of my installed stuff...  that i used to have on top lright ...06:40
sixy-homeproper configs06:40
reisioI'm 101% sure06:40
apbMute was set on the playback setting.... something I checked, but the font is so damn tiny I couldn't see it.06:40
worstDoes anyone have any insight as to how though?06:40
sixy-homeunfortunately im very bad with screen and video setup on linux :(06:40
reisioworst: how to do what?06:41
jmgkhi all06:41
Dr_Willisworst:  not sure what you mean side by side? I have my desktop setup where i can drag windows to any of my monitors.06:41
reisiojmgk: hi06:41
worstDr_Willis: precisely what I want06:41
Dr_Willisworst:  works virtually identiclly to how windows does it06:41
worstDr_Willis: I have it working for 2 monitors06:42
Dr_Willisworst:  plug stuff in, and see what happens. You might need to use the fglrx drivers.06:42
apbI suspect he means  [here's one screen and...][...here's the other]06:42
worstI have fglrx06:42
worstapb, yes06:42
worstthe problem is I have 2 in my video card06:42
reisiotwo fglrx and two intel?06:42
worstand 2 in my intel06:42
worstYes06:42
apbI suspect he means [here's one screen and...][...here's the other][and here's the third]06:42
hitsujiTMOworst: what you getting on the monitors now?06:42
reisiomm, probably need some xrandr magic06:42
worstwell right now I'm just trying to get 3 going06:43
worstand on 206:43
worstI have it working06:43
worstthe 2 on my video card06:43
worst2 have a black screen06:43
apbDr_Willis: You were right for the most part... it was a setting... in my case... the mute.06:43
hitsujiTMOworst whats output of: xrandr06:43
Dr_Willisapb:  ;)06:43
inetki forgot where to find the classic drop down menu of my installed stuff...  that i used to have on top lright ...06:44
inetkor what it called06:44
Dr_Willisinetk:  for ubuntu/unity - theres some extra extensions/indicator applets. or other toosl that add a similer feature.06:44
Dr_Willisinetk:  unless you want to use a classic-gnome-2 look alike mode.06:44
worsthttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Q0AGBV8u06:44
Dr_Willisinetk:  i recall seeing several mentioned at askubuntu.com once. Not tried any lately. so im not sure what new ones may be out. or what old one/ways me be discontinued06:45
Dr_Willisinetk:  i saw one that you could put in the left side panel and gave a nice full menu of apps. but i cant recall its name06:46
jmgkhey dryw06:46
jmgkDr_Willis,06:46
hitsujiTMOworst: i think drivers might be your issue06:46
Dr_WillisMoo jmgk  :)06:46
jmgklol06:46
* jmgk milks Dr_Willis 06:46
jmgkFresh milk ya hear06:47
reisio...06:47
jmgkI assumed he was a cow06:47
jmgk:P06:47
worsthitsujiTMO: howso?06:47
Dr_Williscowsay $(fortune)06:47
jmgklol06:47
hitsujiTMOworst is that with all 4 monitors attached?06:47
worstjust 306:47
hitsujiTMOahh kk06:48
worstwhat I'm wanting to do is run my 2 side monitors off the intel06:48
worstand my projector + main off the video card06:48
reisioyour projector? :)06:48
reisiohey give me your address and tell me when you're out :p06:48
worst:p06:49
inetklol06:49
Dr_Willishe takes it with him when he leaves. ;) its one of those Cell Phone sized prokectors. ;P06:49
daftykinsprojectors are overrated06:49
reisiono they aren't :)06:49
hitsujiTMOok, the 3rd monitor is expanding the desktop alright, so i'd have to guess that its a driver issue06:49
worstdatfykins: My 100 inch 3d wall screen would beg to disagree06:50
Dr_Willisperfect for watching My little Ponies..06:50
worst3rd monitor was plugged into video card before06:50
worstwhich is why it's coming up in xrandr06:50
worstas if it's there06:50
daftykinsworst: most walls are 3D :(06:50
reisiodaftykins: 100 inch06:51
Dr_Willisexcept the really really flat ones.06:51
daftykinssize != quality06:51
reisiosize = size, though06:51
worst^06:51
worstanyway I'm going to reboot and come back with xrandr06:51
worstbe right back06:51
Dr_Williswii bowling on a 100 inch screen. ;)06:51
daftykinsnot even HD :(06:52
Dr_Willishd is overrated. :)06:52
daftykinsalso Wii bowling was so several years ago, ermagerd06:52
worstdaftykins: hd if run from dolphin :)06:52
daftykinsnaaah06:52
worstbrb06:53
daftykinstruth be told i've not seen a proper 1080p projector in person06:53
helmut_hi06:54
reisiohi06:54
reisiohrmmm06:54
reisioI forget if work has 1080 or 72006:54
reisioit's large and in charge, though06:54
daftykinsreisio: work!? you need to bust that sucker out ;)06:55
hitsujiTMOi'm just used to seeing projectors that aren't propperly calbrated to the screen, so no point in having high resolutions on them06:56
jeanepaul_Dr_Willis: it just wont work with live_cd;: i hate it when things like this happens. i chose to develop by using vm so i could not worry about when crash happens. now crash happens to a host and all vm's unusable. i cant remember anything doing wrong except i just added a new disk, use gparted, then configure it to add storage pool in virt-manager06:56
reisiodaftykins: :p06:56
daftykinsnn all06:56
reisioninite06:57
Dr_Willisjeanepaul_:  i dont know enough about lvm to even reccomend anything.   i tend to avoid complex setups06:58
reisiolvm is great if you know ahead of time that you will forget something ahead of time06:58
* reisio keeps face straight06:59
jeanepaul_Dr_Willis: im not even sure why i got lvm. i just follow the installation from ubuntu-server while partitioning. i just hit yes and yes. im not 100% agile with ubuntu so i wont bother anything about lvm. im just using ubuntu to host a development environment for me06:59
reisiolvm can be useful for encryption, too06:59
reisiobut isn't strictly required07:00
jeanepaul_how about using attempt rescue date in gparted? will it recover my files?07:02
Dr_Willisjeanepaul_:  how did you try to mount the lvm volumes?07:03
sixy-homegparted can rescue data? @.@07:03
Dr_Willisgparted manages partions.. Im not even sure it touches lvm stuff at all07:03
sixy-homeo well it can ;d07:03
Dr_Willisive definatly seen people in here haveing issues deleteling redhat lvm partions (?) with gparted befor.07:03
sixy-homehey whats an lvm partition ?07:04
Dr_WillisI dont use lvm so no idea. ;)07:04
daftykins!lvm07:04
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto07:04
Dr_Willisi hae just seen a HUGE number of issues with people and lvm in here the last month or 207:04
jeanepaul_Dr_Willis: i did this sudo mount /dev/mainserver-ub-vg/ a07:04
reisioit makes recovery more complicated07:04
Dr_Willisnormally they seem to be using  it with no idea how  it actually works. ;)07:05
reisio'cause they used an installer :)07:05
Dr_Willisive not noticed the ubuntu installer using lvm. but  I tend to manually set up my partions07:06
Dr_Willisredhat and fedora i think use lvm by default.07:06
jeanepaul_Dr_Willis: followed instructions from here http://pissedoffadmins.com/os/mount-unknown-filesystem-type-lvm2_member.html07:06
hitsujiTMOi think the ubuntu installer default to non lvm iirc07:06
Dr_Willisit might be encrypted disks/homes/partions use lvm. ( ive learned to avoid that feature also) ;P07:07
reisiounless you do encryption07:07
reisiommm07:07
dixon_hi, am using xchat-gnome for irc. How can i set my nickname and password for auto login ?07:08
mPrometheusSup guys?07:08
Dr_Willisdixon_:  most people perfer to use the normal xchat. I know that has it in its serrver settings  area. not sure about xchat-gnome, you did look in its settings menu/items?07:09
hitsujiTMOdixon_: in network list in the menu07:09
reisiomPrometheus: sup07:09
reisiodixon_: CTRL+s, traditionally07:09
reisioedit; nickserv password, server password (set both, same pass)07:10
mPrometheusnot much, thought I'd try this irc thing out.07:10
dixon_got it :) but why to add server password ?07:10
Dr_WillisThen theres the sasl stuff  to identify. Not real sure how it gets mixed in. ;) I have to use sasl on my android phone - or else freenode dosent like me.07:10
reisiodixon_: 'cause IRC is old and rickety07:11
dixon_:) will test it..07:11
dixon_Also, difference between xchat and xchat-gome ? both are not same ?07:12
Dr_Willisdixon_:  they are defaintaly not the same07:12
reisioxchat-gnome is xchat b0rked the way gnome people like it07:12
Dr_Willisxchat-gnome is more dumbed down i guess you can say07:12
reisioprobably has its prefs hidden in gconf07:13
Dr_WillisMost people seem to perfer xchat - over xchat-gnome07:13
reisiothe way gnome likes it07:13
reisioboth be replaced by hexchat eventually07:13
dixon_hmm.. i am seeing..07:13
hitsujiTMOI prefer hexchat over xchat :P07:13
reisioor hexchat-gnome07:13
dixon_looks like better to switch back to xchat..07:13
* reisio shrugs07:13
dixon_hexchat ?07:13
dixon_will read about it..07:14
Dr_Willishexchat is an xchat spinoff07:14
reisioeventually hexchat will be there and xchat won't07:14
reisioyou don't have to think about it07:14
Dr_Willisi cant really say ive noticed much differance. I use hexchat on windows07:14
reisiohexchat has actual bug fixes :p07:14
reisio'bout it07:14
reisioit's maintained07:14
Dr_WillisI tend to use weechat mainly these days07:14
reisioyou sicko!07:14
EricKitHello, I have a pretty simple question, and googling I can find details, but I just want to make sure I understand it before I press.  I am running 13.10 and a uname -a says I'm running kernel version 3.11.0-12-generic.  I thought running apt-get dist-upgrade would update the kernel and software after an update.  But when I look at kernel.ubuntu.com I see a 3.11.4.  Should I manually update to 3.11.4 or will apt-get upgrad07:15
Dr_Willistook 5 hrs to compile weechat on my raspberry pi. ;)07:15
hitsujiTMOdixon_: here's a ppa for hexchat if you want to try it: ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/hexchat-stable07:15
Dr_Willispoor little pi was all tuckered out07:15
reisioheh07:15
reisiocross compiling my man07:15
reisioit's barely different from xchat at this point07:15
Dr_Willisi should set up distcc on all my pi's :P07:16
buuEricKit: You can only run a new kernel after rebooting07:16
buuEricKit: You should probably be running the kernel that apt-get upgrade; gives you07:16
reisiodistcc gumstix cluster07:16
Dr_WillisEricKit:  the latest at kernel.com may be newer then whats in the repos.07:16
reisiokernel.com is my favie07:16
Dr_WillisEricKit:  stick with whats in the repos. unless you have a major need to use the others07:17
RoshanHello .. i downloaded ubuntu 13.04 amd64 for my intel 64 laptop which is before 2011 .. and made a btable usb ..07:17
EricKitDr_Willis: Thanks for the information, do you know which repo contains the kernel?07:17
Roshanwhen booting my usb after reboot ..07:17
Dr_WillisEricKit:  theres some unoffiical ppa's - i dont need them. so dont use them07:17
Dr_Willis!kernel07:17
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)07:17
Roshanit shows PXE error ,, and i cant install ubuntu07:18
EricKitDr_Willis: Do you manually update your kernel then?07:18
Dr_WillisEricKit:  i use whats in the repos.. ive never needed any other kernels07:18
Roshanplease help me to install ubuntu from my bootabale usb without trying PXE option .. is there a way to disable PXE option?07:18
Dr_Willisto me using ubuntu means 'i dont have to worry about the kernel'07:19
EricKitDr_Willis: Makes sense.  I'm having an issue that I was hoping maybe the new kernels fixed07:19
hitsujiTMORoshan: when you boot the laptop open the boot menu: PXE is network boot and is last on the list07:19
hitsujiTMOyou want usb not pxe07:19
Roshanya ..07:20
EricKitWhen my computer suspends, it immediately wakes up.  I can't find any logs that say what triggered the wake-up.  I have looked in dmesg and the suspend log07:20
RoshanThanx ..07:20
Dr_WillisEricKit:  easy way to test would be try the latest live-cd of the 13.10 release with the newer kenel.  (but i dont know what version thats using right now)07:20
Roshani ll see to that07:20
Dr_WillisEricKit:  but it wouldbe the safest way to test ;)07:20
hitsujiTMOEricKit: maybe the peeps in #ubuntu+1 can hel you fix it07:20
Dr_Willisi never use suspend or hibernate either. ;)07:20
EricKitHaha, thanks guys! Appreciate the info07:21
Roshan@hitsujiTMO i select USb..07:22
hitsujiTMOif its going to PXE boot when you select USB then the usb prob isn't bootable07:22
Roshani used universal usb installer to make it ..07:23
hitsujiTMOwhat filesystem?07:23
RoshanFAT07:24
hitsujiTMOalso have you disabled secure boot/fast boot in your bios/uefi of you have it?07:24
Roshanmy laptop is very old..bought in 21 ..07:24
Roshanno uefi07:24
hitsujiTMOmight have fast boot tho07:25
hitsujiTMOdisable fast boot if its there: that inits USB too late on most boards to boot from USB07:25
Roshanno fast boot in my laptop07:28
hitsujiTMOroshan: then i can only think that the usb was not written to correctly, try creating it again, or use a different tool07:30
RoboC0derhi guys07:30
RoboC0derany body can help me to resolve my issue in kernel programming?07:31
RoboC0derany body have kernel  programming experience ?07:31
jmgkho Roshan07:32
xQuasarRoboC0der, would probably be better if you just stated your issue07:32
wiehanI have a headless ubuntu 12.04.2 server in my house, it serves up all my media through Plex Media server, Also it acts as a torrenting box. I can listen to all my music via plex's web interface. What I haven't figured out yet is how to set up something like a DAAP server so that I can access all my music from, say, Banshee07:32
wiehanany advice?07:32
hitsujiTMOwiehan: have you looked at forked-daapd ?07:33
Roshanjmgk hi07:33
Dr_Willis!find daap07:33
ubottuFound: forked-daapd, libnet-daap-dmap-perl, python-daap, xmms2-plugin-daap07:33
Dr_Willis!info python-daap07:33
ubottupython-daap (source: python-daap): DAAP client implemented in Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-3build2 (raring), package size 19 kB, installed size 97 kB07:33
Dr_Willis!info forked-daapd07:34
ubottuforked-daapd (source: forked-daapd): media server with support for RSP, DAAP, DACP and AirTunes. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.19gcd-2.1 (raring), package size 160 kB, installed size 484 kB07:34
wiehanhitsujiTMO, No I will now. I need something that can be set up via ssh and run on start up and requires no gui07:34
RoboC0derthx XQuasar for your notice ;) i have some problem in compiling of my own made kernel , i trying to add my own write module to kernel but it's gonna to some trouble in bootup!07:34
Dr_Williswiehan:  that would be most of the various dlna/upnp/daap servers out there i imagine. :)  they work as a service.07:34
buuwiehan: What the heck does plex even do?07:35
Dr_Willisi thought plex could work as a  music server also. but i dont use the feature07:35
Dr_Willisbuu:  its sort of a  heavly forked XBMC. with the client/server split apart07:35
gulag2013I have no idea how cinnamon got installed. Does anyone know the right way to Purge Cinnamon from Ubuntu 12.04?07:35
wiehanbuu plex is a beautiful media server07:35
Dr_Willisbuu:  I have the plex server running on the home pc.  the plex 'channel' on my roku lets it get to my media. same as the plex app on my tablets07:35
buuSo it has a server that indexes local content and a client that displays it over a network?07:35
Dr_Willisplus theres Plex-Pi for the raspberry pi to turn any tv into a plex enabled tv.07:36
wiehanDr_Willis, I run the plex app and plexbmc from my ouya!07:36
hitsujiTMODr_Willis: apparently plex is pretty bad for DAAP support07:36
Dr_Willistheres the Plex Server, then the Plex Clients.   it is a Dlna/Upnp server07:36
Dr_WillishitsujiTMO:  i dont use daap so no idea. ;)07:36
Dr_Willisplex also has a 'service' where you can access your files over the internet,  for so much a month. like $4 or somthing..07:37
buuplex website is impressively uninformative.07:37
Dr_Willissaves on having to figure out port forwarding and dynamic ips and otehr thigns.07:37
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buuSo is there a plex 'media center' for linux also?07:38
buuOr just windows/osx?07:38
Dr_Willisthe plex media center is indows only. theres Plex Clients for android.07:38
Dr_Willisand the PlexPi specific disrto07:39
ArmegedenI currently have Plex running as a plugin on FreeNAS, so there must be a nix port.07:39
Dr_Willisany upnp/dlna client can access the plex server07:39
buuArmegeden: That's the server part right?07:39
ArmegedenYes07:39
Dr_Willismy xbmc machines can see the plex server.07:39
buuDr_Willis: I mean, I want a shiny frontend that shows me movies/tv/etc with nice menus and pictures?07:39
Dr_Willisas can all the dlna clients07:39
ArmegedenI have the client on my iPhone, but from the PC, I just use the HTTP interface. My Roku also has the Plex client.07:39
buuOn a linux box connected to a tv07:39
cfhowlettbuu, xmbc?07:39
Dr_Willisbuu:  xbmc, or any dlna client can do it07:39
buuoh07:39
buuIs there any advantage to using xbmc with plex?07:40
Dr_Willisbut the plex Channel on the Roku - makes it rather easy to get going07:40
Dr_Willisxbmc can access a plex or any dlna server. so its a matter of what you like07:40
hitsujiTMOxbmc also does smb and nfs too07:40
Dr_Willismy xbmc-enabled pis can access the shared videos.07:40
Armegedenbuu, Plex is that shiny front end. You add a directly of Movies or TV shows, then it reaches out and downloads JPG cover photos, synopsis, etc. Then makes a very nice looking webpage for it all.07:41
auronandacebuu: just so you are aware, part of plex is closed source (in case that affects your choice)07:41
Dr_Willisthe plex server. when running on WINDOWS - does have a few extra features ive noticed (well seen, never got them working) like the ability to watch amazon prime, or netflix from the plex clients07:41
reisionothing stopping them from netflix, except that they haven't implemented it yet07:42
worstHi again all07:42
ArmegedenPlex also has the ability to add "Stations". For example, I currently have The Daily Show, TED, NPR, etc. So I can stream my personal stuff or one of those channels from any of the clients.07:42
Dr_Williswell on windows i think they some how run netflix/silverlight in thebackground and reencode/broadcast it to the client.07:42
buuArmegeden: So I'd install the plex server on the serverbox then access the media via http/web interface?07:42
Dr_Willisive not gotten much of the stations to ever work.07:42
reisiowell on windows, silverlight has historically been available :p07:42
Dr_Willisbuu:  or any dlna client.07:42
hitsujiTMOplex also charge for the client on android07:43
buuDr_Willis: I guess I'm confused what you mean by dnla client. Isn't that just a regular media streaming client?07:43
Armegedenbuu, from a PC, sure. On your iPhone/Android/Samsung Smart TV/Roku/etc, there are specific plex apps that interact very well.07:43
Dr_WillishitsujiTMO:  yep - it was on sale about 3 weeks ago for $107:43
buuEr, streaming protocol07:43
Dr_Willisbuu:  'regular media' means very little. :) DLNA/Upnp is a specific type of streaming07:43
buuArmegeden: Right now I've got a linux box with movies/etc in one room, then the tv room has a tivo and a linux box hooked up to it07:43
ArmegedenThe Plex client on my iPhone picks up the DLNA multicast. However, you can add the Plex server by IP (if you're not routing multicast)07:44
reisiotake mplayer over any of them any day07:44
Dr_WillisI got a Plex Server setup - shareing several TB of vidoes to about 4 differnt devices. Roku. Pi, smart tv.  and other pcs07:44
Dr_Williswith the plex channel on the pi, smart tv, and roku. the interface for the client is virtually identical07:45
ArmegedenYep. They're pretty good at the unity part.07:45
ArmegedenMaking it all look the same.07:45
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moeshttp://paste.ubuntu/6229416/07:45
Dr_Willisive been looking through all the xbmc themes - to find one that dosent confuse my wife. ;)07:46
Dr_Willisbut shes been using the same media-player box now for 4+ years.  it sort of supports dlna even. but its so old. it dosent do it well07:46
dixoncxhexchat looks like refined xchat, really liked this..:)07:46
Dr_Willisdixoncx:  i honestly cant recall noticeing any differance. ;)07:46
Dr_Willisof course xchat from like 6 yrs ago was  a bit differnt in subtle ways also.07:47
Armegedenbuu, so http://www.plexapp.com/desktop/ lists Plex Media Server Download in Ubuntu, Fedora, and CentOS flavors.07:47
Dr_Willisi recall some KDE irc clients that were a bit on the radical side if you want massive feature sets dixoncx07:48
dixoncxIn ubuntu unity, it may require more dependencies..?07:48
paulus68_1I want to share some external drives connected to my desktop with other pc's (with linux and window operating system) do I need to use samba or is sharing and mapping sufficient?07:48
Dr_Willisdixoncx:  a kde app would pull in whatever kde dependencies it needed07:49
Dr_Willispaulus68_1:  shareing and maping.. does use samba i belive.07:49
worst^ this07:49
Dr_Willispaulus68_1:  you want to share FROM a windows box or a linux box?07:49
paulus68_1Dr_Willis: from a linux box07:50
Dr_Williswindows can map a share to a drive letter - that still uses samba on the linux box.07:50
buuArmegeden: Yeah, I was trying to figure out exactly what the media server actually did07:50
hitsujiTMOwindows can also do nfs iirc07:50
paulus68_1Dr_Willis: install samba on the linux box and start configuring07:50
Dr_Willisive never managed to find a  nfs server on windows..  (havent looked lately)07:50
Dr_Willispaulus68_1:  yep.07:50
worsthitsujiTMO: you can't on windows 8..07:51
paulus68_1Dr_Willis: ok thx07:51
Dr_Willispaulus68_1:  if you are shareing a NTFS partition, you may need to mount it from /etc/fstab with specific options to allow the share to work07:51
RoshanhitsujiTMO: this is my problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/312751/pxe-e53-no-boot-filename-received07:52
paulus68_1Dr_Willis: these are 2 ntfs and 1 fat3207:53
Dr_Willispaulus68_1:  then as i said - you will most likely need to mount them from /etc/fstab with the right options to allow the shares to work07:53
hitsujiTMOroshan, looks like: http://youtu.be/7n5Z-GO84fk?t=1m19s07:54
paulus68_1Dr_Willis: thx07:54
hitsujiTMO??07:54
Dr_Willisset up the shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf07:54
ryan_turner|MTWFavorite change from 13.04 -> 13.10? I guess the changes to "lens"es?07:55
Dr_Willislensi ;)07:56
ryan_turner|MTWoh and I guess really the Click format?07:56
Dr_Williscant say ive notied tht07:56
hitsujiTMORoshan : does it look like: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/library/BUSINESS/TALISMA/291.jpg  ??07:56
ryan_turner|MTWIm trying to decide if I should reinstall 13.04 or wait a few days for 13.10 release07:56
RoshanhitsujiTMO: ya ..07:57
Roshanexactly07:57
Dr_Willisryan_turner|MTW:  or install 13.10 now - and update/upgrade on the 16th.. then wait a week to upgrade to the final07:58
hitsujiTMOroshan, thats your computer trying to boot from the network, its skipped over the USB07:58
hitsujiTMOwhats the exact model of your laptop?07:58
ryan_turner|MTWDr_Willis,  my last upgrade/date experience was bad, is this feature working well now?07:58
Roshani set network at last ..07:58
RoshanUSB in the second below HDD ..07:58
Dr_Willisryan_turner|MTW:  i cant see why doing a upgrade to 13.10 final from 13.10 beta sould be any problems at all07:59
RoshanDell Inspirion N404007:59
YcareneIs the usb plugged into a hub or direct to the computer?07:59
ryan_turner|MTWDr_Willis,  should I just install the nightly?07:59
ikoniaryan_turner|MTW: why are you installing nightly builds ?07:59
ikoniawhat benifit do you hope to get ?08:00
ryan_turner|MTWikonia,  razor baldes08:00
ikoniathe final release is just days away.08:00
ryan_turner|MTWblades*08:00
ryan_turner|MTWHonestly Im just responding to Dr_Willis's advice...08:00
ikoniaryan_turner|MTW: razor blades is just a random phrase, nothing to do with the question I asked08:00
ryan_turner|MTW"cutting edge"08:00
ikoniaryan_turner|MTW: it's not though.....08:00
ryan_turner|MTWIt was a joke.08:00
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ryan_turner|MTWikonia, I was responding to <Dr_Willis> ryan_turner|MTW:  or install 13.10 now - and update/upgrade on the 16th.. then wait a week to upgrade to the final08:01
ikoniaI see.08:01
jmgkAnyone know the news that Steve Ballmer funded some Linux?08:01
ryan_turner|MTWI am not intimate with the project, especially near the end of QA lifecycle here08:01
ryan_turner|MTWso I dont know how "beta" "beta' is.08:01
dixoncxfor info, Am using ubuntu 13.10 beta, updated..08:01
ikoniajmgk: nothing to do with this channel08:01
jmgkhm08:01
bazhangjmgk, thats not on topic here08:01
jmgkOh sorry08:01
jmgkI just heard08:02
jmgkWhen is the new Ubuntu coming out?08:02
bazhangtake it to #ubuntu-offtopic08:02
bazhang10/1708:02
jmgkok08:02
Dr_Willisryan_turner|MTW:  i update/upgrade the day befor release.. then hang on for a week or 2 to upgrade to final because the servers are often so overloaded its nasty slow to do a install on release day. :)08:03
worstDoes anyone have any idea how I would run monitors off my intel 4000 and my AMD 797008:03
hitsujiTMOroshAn: when you boot hit f12    should give you the boot menu: is the usb there?08:03
jmgkhm08:04
ikoniaworst: you'd need to run two x servers, you may not be able to use 3d acceleration in that config, but it's worth checking08:04
RoshanhitsujiTMo it s there ..08:04
jmgkDr_Willis,  what is your IRC client08:04
Roshani selected the USB storage08:04
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Dr_Willisjmgk:  i use weechat, or andchat most of the time08:04
worstikonia: On windows I'm able to render on my 7970 to the monitors plugged in to my intel08:04
reisioand andchat08:04
reisioand and08:04
ikoniaworst you're not using windows.08:04
jmgkah08:04
hitsujiTMOselect it and if that doesnt boot the usb, then your usb is not bootable08:04
jmgkWee chat is slow?08:05
worstikonia: obviously. I was curious if this was possible.08:05
Dr_Willisjmgk:  why would you think that?08:05
jmgkoh08:05
jmgkwell no I mean the scrolling isnt working for me08:05
ikoniaworst: totally possible, however the capabilities/performance will depend very much on your card and it's linux support, and the linux modules that are compatible with your version of ubuntu08:05
Roshanjmgk: if Ballmer funds, he is only to sue Linux08:05
ikoniajmgk: well, you're on xchat now,08:05
jmgkuh08:05
jmgkI know08:06
ikoniaRoshan: stop it08:06
Dr_Willisjmgk:  huh? ive no issues with weechat being slow. Im using it on a raspberyr pi right now (0.4.1 version) and this rather low end pi has no issues keeping it up :)08:06
jmgkhaha Roshan08:06
jmgkoh I see. wow its that light Dr_Willis08:06
worstikonia: I see. I've built and installed the proprietary amd drivers + used the intel installer08:06
Dr_Willisjmgk:  it did take it 5 hrs to compile on the pi. ;) but  thats because i wanted the latest versionb08:06
jmgkoh wow08:06
Roshanikonia: Sorry . i was just pointing how evil ballmer is08:06
jmgkRoshan,  we Linux nerds know :)08:07
Dr_Willisjmgk:  there is a weechat android front end that connects to a weechat client running on a pc. and a qt gui front end  - but ive never used that.08:07
ikoniajmgk: you really don't know and you're loooking foolish making these comments, so please stop now.08:07
jmgkah ok Dr_Willis  thanks for the tip. Ah cool QT GUI seems awesome aswell08:07
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Dr_Willisjmgk:  ive no idea how well the gui is. or if its useable at all.08:08
jmgkoh08:08
worstikonia: do you have any advice as where I should go with this?08:08
Dr_WillisI am using weechat on a console framebuffer (using fbterm) on my Raspberry PI right now.08:08
jmgkoh08:08
ikoniaworst: well, what are you not actually sure on08:08
worstikonia: currently monitors plugged into the intel just come up with a black screen08:09
ikoniaworst: how have you got your xserver configured/laid out08:09
Dr_Willisjmgk:  weechat has some features that take a bit of learning to make maximum use of. :) but its worth the effort08:10
worstikonia: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cTGd9xxG08:10
jmgkAllritite I'll give it a shot Dr_Willis08:10
ikoniaworst: there is no intel config in there, that's why there is nothing coming up, you only have the ati card configured08:11
RoshanHitsujiTMO : i think i can turn off boot to network option ..and see it works08:11
ikoniaworst: this is two seperate cards right ? eg: two physical cards, or two onboards, etc.08:11
worstikonia: Right. Odd thing is it has my monitor there (the one I can't activate)08:11
worstwhich is DFP508:12
ikoniaworst: not really odd, it can detect two monitors plugged in, however if you don't enable/configure the card it's plugged into, it can't send data to it08:12
worstit's an AMD 7970 and the intel built into my cpu08:12
ikoniaworst: ahhh, it's one of these optimus type setups08:12
ikoniaworst: is this a laptop ?08:12
worstikonia: no it's not.08:12
ikoniaworst: so there is a socket on the physical card, and a socket on the motherboard for video out ?08:13
worstikonia: Yeah. I want to plug my 2 side monitors into my motherboard08:13
ikoniaworst: so 3 monitors ?08:13
worstand my main to the 797008:13
worstyeah08:13
ikoniaworst: ok, so you'll need to configure 3 monitors, and configure your intel "card208:14
ikonia"08:14
RoshanhitsujiTMo it s not PXE problem it sys mission operating system ..08:14
hitsujiTMOas i said, your usb is not bootable08:14
hitsujiTMOgo redo it08:14
worstikonia: would it be possible to add a new device with the busID of the onboard video, telling it to use the fglrx drivers?08:15
ikoniaworst: errrr no08:15
ikoniaworst: you'd have to add a new device and tell it to use the intel driver08:15
ikoniaworst: (as you said your other "card" was intel)08:15
worstikonia: yes, but intel onboard cards support rendering on the video card08:15
Roshanya ..i will08:15
ikoniaworst this is why you may lose some performance, as it depends on how well the two xorg modules co-operate in terms of moving 3d acceleration around the 3 displays08:16
ikoniaworst: yes, you can render, but that doesn't mean "tell the intel card to use the ati driver" - that just won't work08:16
worstikonia: I see, alright08:16
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WugAlright guys I'08:16
WugI'm in some deep shit08:17
ikoniaworst: tell each device to use the correct module get them working independently, then build a display config that spans all 308:17
ikoniaWug: no need for that language, please stop08:17
WugMy packages are borken, and nothing I've tried has had any effect at all08:17
bazhangWug, state the issue, with many more details08:17
Wugdpkg reports that initramfs-tools has broken dependencies and refuses to do anything08:17
bazhang!enter | Wug08:17
ubottuWug: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:17
gordonjcpWug: pastebin the error message *verbatim*08:18
Wugthere are a lot of details, and irc has a line length limit :|08:18
loluWug: use pastebin08:18
Wuglolu: gordonjcp said that already08:18
worstikonia: appreciate the info. I'll go play with this :)08:18
Wuggordonjcp: I'm getting to that. first up, the output of `apt-get -f install`08:18
ikoniaworst: that's how I'd approach them - take them as 1 screen each, backup the config, then make a new config to get them to span08:19
Wughttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/695976308:19
WugI've googled around, and nothing I've thrown at it has made dpkg budge08:20
worstone more question: I have grub installed on sdc1 and in the mbr08:20
worstI have the truecrypt loader installed on my windows drive which my comp boots from08:20
ikoniaagain...hard disk encryption....problem.08:20
worstikonia: I have multiple drives08:21
worstanyway, when I hit escape it boots into grub08:21
worstbut only every other boot08:21
worstthe other times I have to manually boot from SDC08:22
worstreally odd08:22
worstit's as if it's turning off the boot flag08:22
ikoniaworst: is grub on the mbr of the boot disk or the mbr of sdc ?08:22
worstSDC08:23
worsthowever truecrypt loader won't load from the mbr08:23
worstonly from a partition08:23
ikoniaworst: where is truecrypt loader installed ?08:23
worstmbr of boot drive08:24
ikoniaworst: ok, so that sounds like a problem with truecyrpt08:24
reisioone of many08:24
worstikonia: why would it happen every other time though? very odd08:24
worstikonia: also it will always load my USB if it's plugged in08:24
worstikonia: ubuntu it will proceed to grub every other boot, and the others say no bootable partition08:25
ikoniaworst: I'd talk to the truecrypt support guys, this sort of nonsense is why I find it just a pile of junk08:25
ikoniaworst: it's nothing to do with ubuntu - grub will always go to ubuntu, but if something is not chainloading into grub, then it's $sometihngs fault08:25
mousesgrammar question - if my site says:  The word "ubuntu" is not in the dictionary. Do i need a comma after "word"? As in: The word, "ubuntu" is not in the dictionary. ?08:26
worstikonia: Hm, alright. Only happens with ubuntu though08:26
reisiomouses: I would go so far as to say you need to not have a comma08:26
ikoniaworst: well it doesn't, it only happens when truecrypt trues to boot sdc08:27
reisiomouses: #linguistics08:27
RoshanhitsujiTMO .. i tried with universal USB Intaller ..and it didnt help ..08:27
Roshanany good tolls..08:27
hitsujiTMOtry a different installer08:28
Roshantools??08:28
hitsujiTMOwhat os are you doing it from?08:28
buumouses: no you don't.08:28
mousesthanks08:28
* Wug pokes gordonjcp 08:28
mowgl3yHi #ubuntu08:29
jmgkGreetings mowgl3y08:30
reisiomowgl3y: oobie doo08:30
mowgl3yi have an aws ubuntu instance on which i just set local using local-gen. now my apt-get update 'security' branch fails.08:30
joobzguys, i have a startup script that lives in /etc/init.d which works fine.. i want it to only start and stop in runlevel 5 though08:31
joobzis there an easy way to do this with Ubuntu?08:31
mowgl3yhow to get around this issue? i am on the ap-southeast region and i set my local to en_US08:31
ikoniajoobz: runlevel 5 doesn't exist on ubuntu08:31
joobzoh08:31
ikoniajoobz: the whole init system is different, scripts should not be in /etc/init.d either08:31
joobzi am in runlevel 208:31
joobzwell "N 2"08:32
joobzbased on "runlevel"08:32
ikoniajoobz: yes, that is the "only" run level in ubuntu08:32
joobzi want it to run in this level only08:32
joobzoh08:32
FloodBot1joobz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:32
ikoniajoobz: there is no other run level in real terms08:32
joobzok let me describe the issue then :P there may be a better fix :P08:32
joobzi have a service that needs to start with a delay08:32
RoshanhitsujiTMO: from Windwos 808:32
joobzi need the system to boot then wait like 5 seconds and start.. is that possible?08:32
Guest7129in the installer, when I choose "Guided - Use entire disk", does it create a separate /home for me?08:32
ikoniajoobz: you could just put "sleep 5" at the start of that script, or you could put the correct upstart depends.08:32
joobzi tried a sleep in the init script but it seemed to ignore it, might be my stuff up - but was thinking is there a more elegant way to do this08:33
reisioGuest7129: does it matter08:33
Guest7129reisio: yes?08:33
WugGuest7129: the autopilot on the installer gives you 1 partition08:33
reisioGuest7129: no :)08:33
hitsujiTMOroshan: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ has never faulted on me08:33
joobzOK i think the sleep was my stuff up08:33
joobzput it up top and it worked08:33
joobzlet's see if this works...08:33
Guest7129reisio: maybe not to you, but to me it does matter :)08:33
joobzhacky way, but it'll do.. just for my media center08:33
reisioGuest7129: nah08:34
hitsujiTMOjoobz: at what point exactly do you need it it wait?08:34
Guest7129Wug: ah so no separate /home if i choose "use entire disk"?08:34
hitsujiTMOjoobz: whats the earliest point?08:34
WugGuest7129: that's correct08:34
Guest7129reisio: care to explain why not?08:34
Guest7129Wug: thanks!08:34
WugI believe none of the default options will give you more than one partition08:34
RoshanhitsujiTMo upto now Universal is good08:34
Wugif you want multiple you have to set them up yourself08:34
reisioGuest7129: doesn't get you anything08:35
Guest7129Wug: and if i select a partition to mount as /boot/efi will it do the right thing and set it up as EFI System Partition?08:35
hitsujiTMORoshan: if this still doesnt work, make sure to try a different usb port, then try a different usb stick, then finally its would have to be a setting in your bios08:35
WugGuest7129: that one I'm not sure about, I haven't dealt with the installer since before EFI was really a thing08:35
reisiodoubt it08:35
* Wug champions https://gist.github.com/anonymous/695976308:36
faugusztinjoobz: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html > Writing Jobs > start on and stop on08:36
Wugdon't all start shouting solutions all at once now08:36
reisioWug: solutions!08:40
WugI have this unpleasant suspicion that if I reboot my laptop, it won't start08:42
Wugdoes anyone have any idea at all how to troubleshoot borked packages, or should I go to bed and try again tomorrow08:42
Roshanhello, chromium oxide and Qr's QTview?08:45
SlotrdcNěkdo nějakou radu s NB ASUS a nefunkční Wifi v U13.04?08:49
lotuspsychje!pl | Slotrdc08:49
ubottuSlotrdc: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.08:49
lotuspsychje!cz | Slotrdc08:50
ubottuSlotrdc: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.08:50
eerWhat is the stard way on Ubuntu to stop a service? sudo /etc/init.d/<servicename> <start/stop/etc> or sudo service <servicename> <start/stop/etc> ?08:50
chriswardeer, I believe it's service08:51
chriswardmany init.d scripts will tell you to use service, as well08:51
Wugeer: I may be wrong, but I believe using init.d is the old way, and upstart is the new way08:51
eerupstart? is service <servicename> <start/stop> the upstart way?08:52
lotuspsychje!upstart | eer08:52
ubottueer: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/08:52
lotuspsychjeWug: tnx for hint mate08:52
Wuglotuspsychje: I'll trade you08:52
WugI have borken packages. what do? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/695976308:52
lotuspsychjeWug: whats your ubuntu version?08:53
chriswardapt-get dist-upgrade?08:53
Wugchrisward: it does the same thing08:53
Malinuxmy laptop won̈́'t suspend when I close the laptop lid. After closer investigation I figured out the /etc/acpi/lid.sh script dosen't run at all08:53
Wugmost commands I can do via apt do that right now08:54
eerWhat is the stardard way to remove a disable the start of a service in Ubuntu? I mean even after the next reboot?08:54
Wuglotuspsychje: 13.1008:54
lotuspsychje!13.10 | Wug08:55
ubottuWug: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.08:55
Wugthe package snafu bomb exploded when dist upgrading from an older version08:55
lotuspsychjeWug: we support currently version from topic mate08:55
Wugyeah I know, if you want I'll swing by on thursday with exactly the same question, and the answer won't be any different probably08:55
DuzzyHi, when I ssh to my ubuntu 12.04 server my putty instantly closes if I succeffully gets logged in. If i enter wrong pass, it says so and I can enter it again. Anyone has an idea why it behaves like this?08:56
WugDuzzy: what's your shell set to08:56
Duzzy /bin/bash08:56
hitsujiTMOeer: you'd prob modify it's upstart script08:56
Wugand is ssh configured not to let you get to it08:56
DuzzyI don't know, how can I check that?08:56
popeyWug: you dist-upgraded from what release to 13.10?08:57
Wugpopey: precise I think08:58
buuDuzzy: Can you ssh from a different machine/client?08:58
popeyWug: we dont recommend that08:58
DuzzyYes08:58
DuzzyI can08:58
popeyWug: however, try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" (note the ^)08:58
buuDuzzy: Preferably with a non putty interface =]08:58
popeyWug: this may pull in the necessary bits to make it right08:58
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ikoniapopey: what difference does the ^ make ?08:59
popeyinstalls the task08:59
Wugexact same error08:59
DuzzyYeah I can do that, so I just need to know what to do to make this right, I can excute commands, so thats no prob08:59
popeypulls in deps08:59
RoshanHitsujiTMO: :)08:59
ikoniapopey: why would it not pull in deps without the ^08:59
popeyWug: we don't recommend what you've done, you're flying somewhat blind because we _never_ test this scenario08:59
hitsujiTMOwell what was the problem roshan?08:59
ikoniaor have I missed some background08:59
Wugwell, not quite exactly the same08:59
popeyikonia: because without ^ you're installing a meta package which wont pull in deps08:59
Wugit complains about more packages08:59
Wugok, switching gears09:00
ikoniapopey: no, but each package has depends, so it should filter down ?09:00
popeyno09:00
popeytry it sometime ☻09:00
ikoniawhat ? then what's the point of the meta-pacage09:00
ikoniapackage09:00
popeywithout the hat it's near useless09:00
lotuspsychjepopey: you still contribute to kazam?09:00
popeylotuspsychje: not recently09:00
ikoniaI've never had a meta-package not pull in the dependencies for the packages it's referencing09:00
popeystill use it though09:01
hitsujiTMOduzzy: I recommend installing cygwin to get al alternative ssh client: and add the -v flag as you're connecting09:01
lotuspsychjepopey: ok tnx, yeah great package!09:01
enHi Everyone, There is a customized LiveCD which has my wanted screen resolution. Which folder sholud I copy to my system to has those settings. Please don't tell me the only way is xorg.conf.d and xorg.conf creation because they are not working. The live system also works without them as well.09:01
popeyen: if editing xorg.conf "doesn't work" then you're Doing It Wrong ☻09:01
ikonia"customized livecd" speaks volumes09:02
popeyen: what video card does your machine have?09:02
Wugpopey: here's the output of dpkg --configure -a https://gist.github.com/anonymous/696005709:04
enpopey - Five linux master agreed from the irc channel they told me how to do it trust me.09:04
popeyen: the answer is still to craft a good xorg.conf if the video card misbehaves, whether you believe it isn't or not is largely moot.09:06
enpopey ati radeon 960009:06
popeyWug: apt-cache policy texlive-base09:06
Wugpopey: texlive-base:  Installed: 2009-15  Candidate: 2013.20130722-1  Version table:     2013.20130722-1 0        500 http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386Packages *** 2009-15 0        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status09:07
Wugif you need it with newlines say something and ill gist it09:08
minimecen: I still have an old HP laptop that has this old radeon 9600 in it. That card should make any problems... It uses the open source driver... What special resolution do you need?09:09
minimecen: + not ;)09:09
enminimec 1366x76809:09
SchallaGood morning! When I made a disk image of my hdd with DD, can I compare the integrity soemhow?09:09
Schallaover md5 hashs e.g.?09:10
minimecen: And a normal ubuntu live disk doesn't give you that resolution?09:10
WugSchalla: dd bails if it encounters an error, so if it succeeded then it copied exactly what was on the disk09:10
SchallaWug: Alright. It was a 320GiB HDD; so I worried a bit :)09:10
Schallatook 8 or 9 hours^^09:11
Wugyeah its fair to worry09:11
Wugbut I'd say if the image is the size you wanted it, then there should be no errors09:11
Wugif it's truncated, it might have bailed early, but it would probably have printed something09:11
en1280x720 followed by 1920x1080 in 16:9 aspect ratio09:11
enfirst is too big second is too small09:12
Wugpopey: are you still there? googling intensely maybe, or perhaps using your vast neckbeard to scan man pages?09:12
popeyWug: yeah09:13
popeyWug: do you use tex/lex?09:13
YcareneDoes google play work at all in ubuntu?09:13
Wugpopey: I haven't lately. I tried removing them, but that just changes the list of packages it claims are broken09:14
popeyWug: might be quicker/easier to remove all those tex packages to get you back to a consistent state09:14
minimecen: strange... Try to add the resolution once to xrandr. Read post #24 from this thread. Even though it is for a different kind of screen, the commands should be the same. Maybe change to 'gtf 1366 768 60.009:14
popeyhah09:14
MyrttiYcarene: in what sense?09:14
minimecen: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1321200#p132120009:14
WugI stopped trying to remove packages to make it fix itself when it wanted me to remove all of my kernels09:14
popeyWug: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and all of the .list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/09:14
enIt's working session by session but I want it Permanent09:15
Wugpopey: you know, I just found something in sources.lst.d that still points to precise09:16
Wuglet me take a whack at changing that to see if it unbreaks thing09:17
Wugthough it shouldn't I dont think, one is precise and the other is natty09:17
popeythis is yet another reason we don't recommend upgrades done the way you did it09:18
WugI upgraded with sed because I'm a terrible person.09:18
Ben64yep, your system is broken now09:18
SchallaWug: Well lsblk says 298,1GB HDD Size and Windows 7 says 298GB Filezize, so it should be fine :)09:18
Wugit worked on my other system09:19
popeyWug: ahh, your experience of 100% success seems to have coloured your expectations09:19
Wugwhich I also pulled from precise to saucy, using the same process09:19
popeyWug: at least your upgrade experience is now 50%.09:19
Wugpackages did break, so I expected them to here09:19
Wugbut I was able to fix them there09:19
Ben64why not just upgrade the way that won't break everything09:20
popeyyeah, its a fun exercise to do if you have half a day to muck about putting it right09:20
Ben64or wait 6 more months for 14.0409:20
popey"restore from backup" etc09:20
njsgpopey: well, if you try, you learn09:20
popeynjsg: you dont need to, we already know this way is fraught with danger, but feel free ☻09:20
Ben64if it worked, it would be the recommended way to upgrade09:21
popeynjsg: byproduct is people then spout on their blogs that "ubuntu upgrades don't work" (well duh, yeah, they absolutely don't if you go off-piste) ☻09:21
Wughey, I can remove packages with dpkg09:21
Ben64i've never had an upgrade not work, from edgy eft to precise pangolin09:21
* popey stops chatting in the support channel.09:21
lotuspsychjenjsg: i agree everybody trys something that goes wrong one day, to learn out of it09:21
SupaSolhello here09:22
lotuspsychjeSupaSol: welcome what can we do for you?09:22
njsglotuspsychje: I'd support doing that every day of our lives :-)09:22
lotuspsychjenjsg: great attitude :p09:23
SupaSolthank you, nothing for the moment im juste here for reading what people say and learn few things :)09:23
AdministrateurHello! Is there anyone on right now to help with a technical question?09:25
buuNo, we're all on break.09:25
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lotuspsychjeCosmicCalamity: shoot your issue mate09:26
CosmicCalamityIt's quite possible you all are ;)09:26
njsgwell, I don't have a job on weekends, so I *am*, technically, on a break09:26
CosmicCalamityI installed Ubuntu and get all the way through install. Make it to the log in screen and then I get no desktop....Just a pink snowstorm. I'm thinking graphics issue but no clue how to resolve it.09:27
buuCosmicCalamity: Can you switch to a console with alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-f1?09:27
CosmicCalamityYes, but then I can type in Admin name but not able to type in password in prompt.09:28
MyrttiCosmicCalamity: what makes you think you're not able to type the password?09:28
MyrttiCosmicCalamity: on the console you don't get asterisks to cover the password, it just is blank09:28
CosmicCalamityNothing shows on the screen and Enter just gives me an incorrect password error.09:28
hitsujiTMOCosmicCalamity: what version of unbuntu and what graphics card?09:28
buuCosmicCalamity: Are you using the right account name?09:28
buuAnd, you know, typing the right password09:29
Myrttiif enter gives you incorrect password, then you typed it wrong ;-)09:29
CosmicCalamityI know that I typed the password correctly (many times over LOL)09:29
popeywrong keyboard layout?09:29
minimecCosmicCalamity: the password is not shown. Als the cursor would not move during the password. Aslo check if you activated the CapsLock key.09:29
CosmicCalamityI tried it with my current EU layout and asa US layout.09:30
hitsujiTMOCosmicCalamity: type your password as the username and see if it matches what you wrote09:30
njsgCosmicCalamity: what is "Admin"?09:31
CosmicCalamityShould I be using a version anterieur to 12 or 13? I did that the first time and it did match. So, not sure why it wasn't recognized. I'll try it again.09:31
CosmicCalamityAdministrateur was my default user name09:31
hitsujiTMOalso, username should be all lowercase09:31
njsgCosmicCalamity: you set it that way, then enter it that way09:31
njsghitsujiTMO: is it converted to lower-case?09:31
njsgI always assumed it'd be case-sensitive09:32
hitsujiTMOnjsg: well ubuntu server gives out if you try and enter upper case chars, so i'd presume its the same for ubuntu desktop09:33
CosmicCalamityOk...I'm going to reinstall and try the 12.04.3.  If I can get to the ctrl+alt+F1 screen and logged in. What should I do then?09:34
popeyreinstall is a bit of a sledgehammer09:34
CosmicCalamityAnd sorry if I sound like an idiot. This is my first foray into a non-windows environment.09:34
popeyCosmicCalamity: its cool, we were all there once09:34
hitsujiTMOmjsg: OK, i'm wrong: just did useradd Moo && cat /etc/passwd    ... Moo is there09:34
CosmicCalamityPerhaps it is popey but I wanted a clean slate since I was trying things this way and that and not sure what did what.09:35
popeyok ☻09:35
CosmicCalamityOk...need to change a diaper (not mine *giggle giggle snort*). Then I'll proceed with reinstall and see what I see. I'll be back. :)09:36
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xtrizif i want to install kubuntu on top of ubuntu, then installing kubuntu-desktop will install all the defaults of kubuntu desktop ?09:48
bekksxtriz: No, it will just install all the packages installed in kubuntu.09:48
schnitzlhi. how to (suggest) to add software to the original software repositories of ubuntu.09:50
bekksschnitzl: So which software are you missing?09:51
schnitzlan rts game.09:51
bekksI bet it has a name.09:51
schnitzlopenra it is called. i am a big fan, and since there are very few rts games, this might be a nice additional feature.09:52
xtrizbekks, then how can i get the default config like we have in kubuntu ?09:52
xtrizinstalling kubuntu ?09:52
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bekksxtriz: There is nothing like "the default config file" - after starting your very first kde-based application, technically you start configuring it, because your personal configs are written, etc.09:53
minimecschnitzl: Well at least there are ubuntu/debian packages available on the game homepage.09:53
bekksxtriz: Just install kubuntu-desktop on your ubuntu, and you will bbe fine.09:54
xtrizbekks, so installing kubuntu-full  ?09:54
schnitzlminimec:  thats not the task ;)09:54
bekksxtriz: No, just read what I just said :)09:54
xtrizbekks, ok09:54
schnitzlbekks: any suggestions then?09:54
bekksschnitzl: you may submit a bug report as feature request, e.g.09:55
bekksschnitzl: If that isnt a valid way for feature requests, you will be told then.09:55
bazhangschnitzl, just make a PPA09:55
schnitzlno. thats not the task bazhang09:55
bekksschnitzl: thats the first step after creating a feature request :)09:56
bazhangschnitzl, far better of chance of spreading it than what you propose09:56
schnitzlthe idea is to drag more players. i think this project has not the attention it deserves. + ubuntu has very few rts games listed. would be a win win09:56
schnitzlit alwready has a PPA09:56
bazhangso let it gather momentum09:56
NewToThisI cant change my wireless card from mode : managed to monitor09:57
bazhangNewToThis, what chipset09:57
schnitzlokay. thank you guys.09:57
NewToThisBroadcom 802.1109:57
WugI am become death, destroyer of ubuntu09:57
bazhangWug, take it elsewhere09:58
njsgNewToThis: which drivers?09:58
Wugbazhang: this is a continuation of my package issues09:58
bazhangWug, its adding noise, so dont09:58
njsgNewToThis: only one of broadcom open drivers and broadcom proprietary drivers can do monitor, I don't remember which one09:58
NewToThisshould i tell u the error im getting?09:59
bazhangNewToThis, whats the exact command you are using09:59
njsgNewToThis: definitely09:59
NewToThisthe commands im using are ----> ifconfig wlan0 down10:00
NewToThisthen10:00
NewToThisifconfig wlan0 mode monitor10:00
NewToThisthen turn it bak on10:00
minimecNewToThis: You have to configure the 'wireless' device with 'iwconfig'10:01
minimecNewToThis: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor'10:02
NewToThisI tried it rite now..10:04
NewToThisnow i get --->10:04
NewToThisError for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :10:04
NewToThis    SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.10:04
minimecNewToThis: So either the card or the driver so not support 'monitor mode'10:04
dveimwhen ubuntu 13.10 will be released?10:04
cgtdk17th iirc10:04
MonkeyDustdveim  next week10:04
dveimmm, good10:05
NewToThisdo u noe where i can go to get Broadcom drivers? (that can monitor?)10:05
cgtdkhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule10:05
minimecNewToThis: Can you give me the output of 'lspci | grep Network' ?10:05
bekks!wifi | NewToThis10:05
ubottuNewToThis: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:05
NewToThisHere let me give u the output _---->10:06
foofoobarHi. My screen on my notebook is dimmed after a few seconds. How can I increase the time interval until it is dimmed10:06
NewToThis 10:06
NewToThis00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller (rev 09)10:06
NewToThis00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)10:06
NewToThis00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller (rev 04)10:06
NewToThis00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)10:06
FloodBot1NewToThis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:06
MonkeyDustfoofoobar  system setings > power10:06
foofoobarMonkeyDust, I can just deactive it10:08
foofoobarand not set the time10:08
foofoobar(ubuntu 12.04)10:09
worstHey, I'm trying to setup a multi-monitor setup with monitors plugged into different video cards10:11
helpmewithmywifii have a netgear something usb wifi and its not working, any ideas?10:11
MonkeyDust!details | helpmewithmywifi10:12
ubottuhelpmewithmywifi: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:12
helpmewithmywifihold on im about to lsusb10:12
minimechelpmewithmywifi: Ok. Let's figure out what 'something' you have. Check lsusb and look for the device.10:12
helpmewithmywifiBus 001 Device 004: ID 0846:9012 NetGear, Inc. WNDA4100 802.11abgn 3x3:3 [Ralink RT3573]10:12
helpmewithmywifinow i have looked into compile from source on ralink rt357310:13
helpmewithmywifii have been at this for 4 days now btw10:14
NewToThisso does anyone know a driver from 43b1 that supports mode : monitor??10:15
helpmewithmywifihello?10:18
sophie_Hi10:18
helpmewithmywifican you help me with my wifi?10:18
minimechelpmewithmywifi: Compiling the driver yourself seems to be the right idea.10:18
helpmewithmywifiminimec: thats what i thought, its just above my skill Lv  also dose not help that i have an armhf cpu10:19
sophie_helpmewithmywifi, A what cpu?10:21
drmagoohelpmewithmywifi, http://askubuntu.com/questions/295533/ralink-rt3573-chipset-not-working-with-ralink-linux-driver-for-that-chipset-wha10:21
helpmewithmywifiarm hardfloat10:21
minimechelpmewithmywifi: arnhf should not change the procedure. install the kernel headers and build essential: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential' Not sure about headers-generic. That might be different depending your kernel.10:22
helpmewithmywifiok hold on im going to read that webpage i may have not seen that one before.10:23
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MonkeyDusthelpmewithmywifi  tip: there's also #ubuntu-arm10:23
jostOne of my machines should receive its IP via DHCP, but use a default gateway that is not the DHCP server. How do I do that?10:23
helpmewithmywifiok yes i have seen that webpage before10:24
helpmewithmywifihow to check the kernel-headers that i shall need10:25
virtuapostajost, mac-binding!? or please details the requirement10:25
virtuapostajost, mac-binding!? or please detail the requirement10:25
minimechelpmewithmywifi: uname -a gives you 'your kernel'. Now check the repository for 'your kernel'. If the kernel is from an external deb repo, check that repo for the headers deb10:26
helpmewithmywifiok10:27
minimechelpmewithmywifi: If 'your kernel' has 'generic' in it, install the generic headers...10:28
helpmewithmywifiit dose not10:28
minimechelpmewithmywifi: So you need the headers matching your kernel number exactly.10:28
helpmewithmywifiapt-get10:29
hitsujiTMOhelpmewithmywifi: whats the output of uname -r10:29
jostvirtuaposta: there are two routers in my network, both having internet access. The first one also runs a DHCP server. My machine should get its IP (and DNS servers etc) from that router, but use the second one as gateway. The second router has a fixed IP.10:29
Wughelpmewithmywifi: protip: /exec -o uname -r10:30
Wugexecutes the command and pipes the output to the current channel10:30
Wuguname -r is just one line10:30
sophie_This should be a quickly answerable question: I have a shell script on my desktop that cancels out mouse acceleration when I run it, how can I get it to run automatically at each boot up?10:31
helpmewithmywifi3.6.11+10:31
ikoniaI doubt that10:31
hitsujiTMOjost: what type of router is the DHCP ? brand + model plz10:32
ikoniahelpmewithmywifi: hang on is this a raspbery pi10:32
Wugikonia: a raspberry pi with wifi?10:32
ikoniaWug: ...just wait10:32
ikoniaWug: he said it's a usb dongle10:32
helpmewithmywifiyes it is10:32
ikoniahelpmewithmywifi: there we go - then you are not running ubuntu10:32
Wuggood call10:32
BluesKaj_Hi folks10:33
minimecsophie_: open 'gnome-session-properties' and add it as startup program for the current user.10:33
cfhowlettikonia is strong with the force tonight!10:33
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WugI think I've fixed my packages10:33
hitsujiTMOhelpmewithmywifi: whats the output of uname -a10:33
ikoniacfhowlett: I certainly have my obiwan beard10:33
gulag2013sophie_,  "Startup Application" I'm not much help, I just didn't want you feeling unheard.10:33
sophie_minimec, I'm using unity10:33
josthitsujiTMO: AVM Fritzbox 7312 is the one with DHCP, the other one is an easybox 904 LTE10:34
rannongahi BluesKaj_10:34
helpmewithmywifiLinux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #538 PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 20:42:08 BST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux10:34
ikoniayou are not running ubuntu10:34
BluesKaj_hi rannonga10:34
sophie_gulag2013, Ah I found it, thanks both :)10:34
minimecsophie_: open a terminal and type gnome-session-properties in it. It should work with unity too10:34
sophie_minimec, Ah yes it takes me to the same place as "startup applications"10:35
minimechelpmewithmywifi: 'apt-cache search 3.6.11' Do you see a header deb?10:35
ikoniahe's not running ubuntu10:36
helpmewithmywifihold on10:36
ikoniathis is not for this channel, helpmewithmywifi you are not running ubuntu10:36
hitsujiTMOjost: it seems your router will only assign the gateway as itself, so what you're asking is not possible10:37
helpmewithmywifiapt-cache search 3.6.11  shows nothing10:37
ikoniahelpmewithmywifi: you are not actually running ubuntu10:37
helpmewithmywifiikonia you cant help me?10:37
ikoniahelpmewithmywifi: so advice from this channel will be wrong10:37
ikoniahelpmewithmywifi: join the channel for the OS you are running10:38
helpmewithmywifiwhat do i do?10:38
MonkeyDusthelpmewithmywifi  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue10:38
ikoniahelpmewithmywifi: join the IRC channel that supports your distro10:38
virtuapostaHi jost, sorry for delayed reply as my internet connection is wacky at the moment, you can use "option router xx.xx.xx.xx"  with mac binded host under host host_name { .. rest conf ..} hope this will help... thought hitsujiTMO? asking as i also never tried this.. can you give it a try jost10:38
josthitsujiTMO: and on ubuntu side? Is it possible  to override the gateway sent by the router? Simply adding "gateway x.y.z.w" to the interface config does not work10:38
sophie_Doesn't Ras Pi run form of Debian?10:38
DJones!alis | helpmewithmywifi10:38
ubottuhelpmewithmywifi: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*10:38
ikoniasophie_: yes, there are quite a few variations for it10:38
virtuapostafrom ubuntu side/ client ubuntu side it is possible jost10:38
minimechelpmewithmywifi: ikonia is right. I mean this is the ubuntu channel not the raspvberry-pi channel. But... You only need to install the correct headers and follow that 'ask ubuntu' link. That should do to compile the driver.10:39
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helpmewithmywifi$ cat /etc/issue10:39
helpmewithmywifiRaspbian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l10:39
ikoniause the Raspbian support channel helpmewithmywifi10:40
hitsujiTMOjost: can you not just use static networking on ubuntu client?10:40
MonkeyDusthelpmewithmywifi  then you're not in the right channel, that's why you're not getting an answer here10:40
helpmewithmywifii didnt know they had that10:40
helpmewithmywifi./join rasberrypi ?10:40
minimechelpmewithmywifi: /join #raspberrypi10:41
hitsujiTMOjost: is the ubuntu machine running ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop?10:41
virtuapostajost, from client side you can use "route add default gateway_ip_here"10:41
helpmewithmywifi#raspberrypi :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services10:42
josthitsujiTMO: yes, static networking works. But that would leave DNS unconfigured, which would be another manual config. The machine runs ubuntu server10:42
MonkeyDusthelpmewithmywifi  type    /join #raspbian    <-- 200+ people there10:42
Wughelpmewithmywifi: see also register a nickserv account and join10:42
DJones!register | helpmewithmywifi Sounds like you need to register your nickname,10:43
ubottuhelpmewithmywifi Sounds like you need to register your nickname,: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode10:43
helpmewithmywifiit works10:43
helpmewithmywifithanks guys10:43
minimechelpmewithmywifi: Are you using raspbian? there is an official #raspbian channel on freenode. so /jin #raspbian. #raspberrypi is innofficial an needs freenode membershiop10:43
hitsujiTMOjost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230633/ in /etc/network/interfaces  should work, otherwise try what virtuaposta has suggested10:43
josthitsujiTMO: thats what I've tried, does not work :(10:44
hitsujiTMOthen try what virtuaposta has suggested: route add default gw xx.xx.xx.xx10:44
virtuapostajost, you restarted networking after applying the changes right? no just confirming :)10:45
jostvirtuaposta: of course :-)10:46
jostOk, got it10:47
hitsujiTMOjost if you want full control of your dchp and the server is always on i'd suggest setting the server as static ip, and running a dhcp server on that10:47
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virtuapostacongrats jost !!10:47
jostvirtuaposta: hitsujiTMO: Thanks to both of you10:48
hitsujiTMOnp10:48
jostwhat did it was "route add default gw x.y.z.w eth0", and "route del default gw fritz.box eth0" afterwards10:48
IamTryingMy system crash with file system issue cant write to disk. How can i rollback to static installation ? Like windows users use DeepFreeze or Restore point like applications.10:52
IamTryingUbuntu is there any package free/commercial which allow static restore on every reboot? like windows has DeepFreeze or Restore point10:53
virtuapostaIamTrying, fresh installation or existing system under issues?10:53
virtuapostarecent logs please..10:54
IamTryingvirtuaposta, fresh installation like stable setup.10:54
virtuapostaIamTrying, how about fresh install with new disk, sometimes installation disks are under issues during burning process... or quickest way is to put live CD/USB and process with rescue mode10:55
IamTryingvirtuaposta, http://i.stack.imgur.com/GIRKY.jpg10:55
IamTryingvirtuaposta, i have system setup locally, and send to remote locations, remotely i do not have myself physically to do CD/USB stuffs. I need to setup something like on every reboot it goes to my stable setup10:56
IamTryingvirtuaposta, in Windows XP, 7 - they have applicaiton like DeepFreeze it always on reboot goes back to stable setup10:56
IamTryingvirtuaposta, Is there no application in Ubuntu which can do such? No matter what it goes on reboot to my static restore point?10:56
virtuapostadid this happened during openfire installation?10:58
IamTryingvirtuaposta, NO it just happening when i boot my system.10:59
IamTryingvirtuaposta, right now i can write to my disk but moment i start programming its happening10:59
IamTryingso i cant write anything to my disk after starting to programming using NetBeans or Eclipse or Gedit or even Terminal10:59
virtuapostalet me check those logs again IamTrying! please wait and meanwhile I am sure somebody surely will come-up with quick answer to this... give me few minutes please11:00
IamTryingvirtuaposta, OK - waiting. Its very stress-full error, happening suddenly every time11:01
rannongathat makes no sense11:04
virtuapostahmm I doubt this is hardware issue IamTrying! you need to run checks over disk and memory..11:04
virtuaposta"fsck"11:05
IamTryingvirtuaposta, memchk is OK , fsck is OK , after fixing with fsck it again happening11:05
ed__Does anyone have Ubunto 10.04 on an Acer Revo RL70 with AMD E350 processor with Skype working?11:07
cfhowletted__, as 10.04 is end of life, I'd guess no.11:07
hitsujiTMO10.04 is not supported11:07
hitsujiTMOed__, any particular reason why you want to run such an old OS?11:08
virtuapostaIamTrying then I am afraid that you need someone who can run live cd on remote location and perform "check disk for defects" and "test memory" operations.. may other guys can guide you more in this.. will let you know if I am with any help in this11:08
IamTryinghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6230728/ - virtuaposta11:08
ed__What about Mint 13 64 bit on the RL70 with working Skype?11:09
cfhowletted__, and mint has it's own support channel.  this is ubuntu.11:09
cfhowlett!mint11:09
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org11:09
IamTryingvirtuaposta, after boot what i use is 1) chromium-browser 2) terminal / vim 3) gedit 4) for git hub commit sometimes netBeans ide or eclipse for python gtk11:10
virtuapostait is clearly hard-disk issue IamTrying, as it is turning read-only.. also please make sure if disk is not 100% full, wait for others responses as well11:10
IamTryingvirtuaposta, now in step 2 that occures already11:10
AtluxityHow can I have my apt-get download the source for a package in 13.10 when I am running 13.04? I just want this for 1 download11:10
AtluxityI am trying to fix a bug in a 13.10 package11:10
hitsujiTMOIamTrying: whats the output of: mount11:10
IamTryingvirtuaposta, df -h is showing i only used 24% of disk11:10
IamTryinghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6230742/  - hitsujiTMO11:11
virtuapostaIamTrying, output from your log : EXT4-fs warning (device sda1): ext4_end_bio:250: I/O error writing to inode 1664616611:11
virtuapostadisk is under issues and fsck might have failed.. please re-run it11:11
loluAtluxity: you can add the deb-src line of 13.10 to your sources.list11:12
Atluxitythanks lolu11:12
loluAtluxity: just the deb-src remember.11:12
IamTryingvirtuaposta, fsck after reboot i ran and manually i fixed the errors, since then i am now in ubuntu, but after some time it automagically again occures11:13
IamTryingvirtuaposta, could it be a GROUPS issue like fuse ?11:13
hitsujiTMOIamTrying: sudo apt-get install smartmontools11:13
Atluxitylolu: yes, I just needed a reminder that I could only specify deb-src :) thanks11:14
hitsujiTMOiamtrying: plz run: sudo smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sda11:14
virtuapostano IamTrying, if its groups issue then the error will be like "permission denied" but its write failure.. you need to change the hard-disk.. but please consult with others here in channel.. someone might be having better solution or workaround atleast11:15
IamTryinghitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230753/11:15
IamTryinghitsujiTMO, virtuaposta: FYI - wild guess. i have noticed its happening since i installed VritualBox with Windows XP, inside the virtual box i was bypassing USB Devices like ID card reader and read in Windows XP because i did not had drivers in Linux. (Since then i have this disk write error often)11:16
Wugwell I think it's fixed.  somehow.11:22
maxbIamTrying: The disk reports that it has 80 sectors that have been discovered to be unreadable and are pending reallocation (Current_Pending_Sector) - I would assume it is beginning to fail11:22
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maxbIamTrying: I would 1) backup important data, 2) run a long SMART selftest, 3) plan on replacing the drive11:24
IamTryingOK - maxb thank you.11:26
melkorIs anybody else having trouble with nautilus consuming a large amount of cpu even when not in use?11:28
virtuapostame not melkor! :) but what version of ubuntu you in?11:32
melkor10.0411:32
melkorSorry 12.0411:33
virtuapostamelkor, have you tried to change value of swappiness? not sure if it help but try this "sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=10" otherwise restart the system in case anything goes more wrong ;)11:34
melkorI have tried restarting previously. I've actually uninstalled nautilus because it is pretty much not usable for me. It does this high cpu usage when it is not in use, or just displaying the desktop.11:40
Laurie10Hi!11:41
melkorI was checking if this was a known issue in the ubuntu community.11:41
ikoniamelkor: no11:41
Laurie10Anyone that has installed 13.04 on a ASUS notebook? I kind of am in a sticky situation. No urgent.11:42
ikoniamelkor: keep in mind nautilus is just a file manager, it doesn't display the desktop at all11:42
ikoniaLaurie10: why don't you just explain the problem, as people who have not installed on a random ASUS notebook can probably still help you11:42
eerDoes x11 tunneling through SSH work with every program?11:43
eerAnybody knows?11:43
MonkeyDusteer  "every program"?11:43
melkoreer: every program?11:43
Laurie10Yes, basicly as I install Ubuntu LiveCD I get steady black screen. No nomodeset Works. I have Nvidia Geforce 740m11:44
eerCan I run evolution which is on my server through SSH on my client netbook?11:44
virtuapostaeer, yes it does except lots of including eclipse, etc.11:44
melkoreer: you should be able to.11:44
minimeceer: That should work.11:44
ikoniaLaurie10: "as you install" - please clarify, do you get to a certain point and then it dissapears, or do you never get any screen just a black screen11:45
eerDo I have to configure evolution somehow?11:45
minimeceer: no.11:45
ikoniaeer: why don't you just explain the problem, rather than these loaded questions11:45
eerI guess it will only work if both sides use KDE or both sides use Gnome, right?11:45
cfhowlett!details|eer,11:46
ubottueer,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."11:46
ikoniaeer: why don't you just explain the problem, rather than these loaded questions11:46
Laurie10Sorry, English is not my native language. As I hit "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu". Please note I do not have a purple background, just black and wite. The windows 8 I am using came pre installed.11:46
ikoniaLaurie10: what does Windows have to do with this ? (your English is fine by the way)11:46
virtuapostamelkor, i have observed few users with this issue and the issue was actually with missing additional Nvidia drivers, try activating drivers11:47
Laurie10ikon: The UEFI that I hate...11:47
melkorvirtuaposta: ?11:47
ikoniaLaurie10: ok, so that's nothing to do with Windows11:47
Laurie10Yes, I meant UEFI, but as Windows (8) comes pre-bundled with UEFI i meant that (sorry for the hang-up, by the way)11:48
virtuapostamelkor, that was in response to your nautilus issue.. or i might missed the actual user who raise the issue.. my apologies :)11:48
melkorvirtuaposta: yes, I have an issue with nautilus. I do not have nvidia. I have intel, and all of my 3d drivers are up to date and working... last I checked.11:49
eerDoes X11 forwarding only work if both sides use KDE or both sides use Gnome?11:49
melkoreer: no.11:49
ikoniaeer: just explain the REAL problem11:49
eerI can not try it out at the moment.11:49
eerikonia, what problem?11:50
ikoniaeer: the one you keep asking about11:50
ikoniaor the query in which you are aiming these loaded questions if it's not a problem11:50
eerikonia, I am trying to clear things before I install GUIs for nothing.11:50
chriswardI've x11 forwarded off a ubuntu server without installing gui11:50
minimeceer: The answer is 'no problem'. You can use ssh -X on a KDE environment and login to Gnome environment and run Evolution or whatever you want.11:51
eerminimec, thx11:51
utopico• IRcap 8.72 • http://www.ircap.com11:53
chriswardthat didn't look like spam or anything11:54
eerminimec, and in general, just to understand this, the clients GUI will be used. The stuff coming out of the X11 tunnel is only data that the client will use to create the program's GUI?11:54
chriswardyep, you don't even need gnome/kde on the server11:55
chriswardjust x and stuff... :D11:55
minimeceer: The software is exectuted 100% on the machine you login to. The Xserver only redirects the output to the machine you are sitting on.11:55
Laurie10The story goes: Once apon a time there was a man with a computer that dual booted Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04. Then his computer broke. Sad, he sent it in and got a new one, with Windows 8. It sucked so he wanted to install Ubuntu on it. The Ubuntu installation didn't work, cause' when he hit "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu" he got a steady black screen. He thinks that it is his Nvidia Geforce11:56
Laurie10740m's fault. He doesn't have any "Secure Boot" options in his Setup so he asks in the IRC.11:56
eerchrisward, but of course I need KDE/Gnome on the server. How am I supposed to install/run Evolution there?11:56
MonkeyDusteer  a server is not supposed to be used with a GUI11:57
chriswardeer, the output is directed straight to the client, kde/gnome aren't required unless you're at a terminal on the server to use it11:57
eerminimec, and the output in that case includes the GUI or only raw data which a GUI needs?11:57
ikoniaMonkeyDust: a server can be used just fine with a gui11:58
minimeceer: You need a Xserver on both machines!11:58
helpmewithmywifiLaurie10 is that your on board video card?11:58
ikoniaMonkeyDust: there is no "rules" that says a server must not have a gui, some application functions require / work better with a gui11:58
Laurie10I don't really know as this ia a notebook. I haven't opened it yet.11:58
kali_eskrimaminimec hi. i downloaded the version of  and burned an image dvd from iso. so it would be bootable. as well as i did bootable usb. non of them works. my bios is not recognizing the cd, for me to set it as boot option,. for usb, i can see it in the bios, but when i set it as bootable option it wont boot from usb...!!!! what am i doing wrong? am i supposed to press any butons when the cd or usb is booting?11:59
cfhowlettkali_eskrima, did you tell your computer to boot from the USB?11:59
kali_eskrimacfhowlett yes i did. but it wont boot. my bios is uefi. the secure boot is disabled, as well as fast boot. and i think legacy mode is disable too. i dont jknow what is legacy mode, but i know is disabled.12:00
kali_eskrimathe live cd wont read it cfhowlett12:01
cfhowlettkali_eskrima, ok slow down here.  first: did you md5sum check the iso you downloaded to verify integrity?12:01
kali_eskrimai meant before that i downloaded the version ubuntu 13.1012:01
cfhowlettkali_eskrima, can't help with 13.10 as it's pre-release.   try #ubuntu+1 or use a supported version.12:02
kali_eskrimacfhowlett how do u see if is good or not? i think i have all the files12:02
cfhowlett"all the files"?  ISO is ONE file!12:02
minimeckali_eskrima: We talked yesterday right? I mean you got 12.04 working. Just boot up 13.10 the same way...12:02
eerOK; final question. I am a bit slow and for me it is hard to grasp. I install a brand new no GUI Ubuntu, no KDE, no Gnome, nothing. Then I go apt-get install evolution. Then on the client which is running Kubuntu I can SSH -X to that server and run the Evolution GUI on my local machine?12:02
kali_eskrimaok cfhowlett i have currently 12.04 and is giving me problems. always with wifi, turned on and off. one day on and the next off. and than some other problems. so i wanted to add 12.10 or 13.1012:03
minimeceer: 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg evolution'. I would try that.12:03
cfhowlettkali_eskrima, 12.10 is supported.  13.10 hasn't been released.12:03
melkoreer: you'll need to make sure sshd is running on the server.12:03
eermelkor, that is a given. But apt-get won't complain and ask me to install Gnome or KDE? Strange.12:04
kali_eskrimaminimec yes we spoke the other day. my wi fi is not working now, but yesterday it did, as usually laptop does, recognizes the nearest wi fi, which is at my home. i have a router. so anyway i downloaded the 13.10 version and burned the iso (burned the image so it will become bootable) i did it with the  brasero disk burner. and i also made a usb bootable. maybe i didnt i dont know. but it ain t working as it should. the 12.04 i12:05
kali_eskrimai   also have 12.10 downloaded it wont boot12:06
kali_eskrimacfhowlett minimec i have uefi bios. f**kin useless12:06
kali_eskrimauefi bios has secure boot disabled, legacy too, and fast boot. dont know why i need legacy option tho12:07
hitsujiTMOeer: you may want to add a desktop-environment such as ubuntu-desktop  ...12:07
minimeckali_eskrima: Well that 'Startup Disk Creator' normally does a good job for usb Stick live images. Although I once had a USB Stick, were the usb hardware refused to wotk as a live image.12:08
CosmicCalamityHello :) Anyone still here from when I was on a couple of hours ago? I finally got Ubuntu to log in to the desktop! Woot :) But is there a configuration to change to make it more fluid in function?12:09
hitsujiTMOCosmicCalamity ? what desktop enviroment? unity?12:09
kali_eskrimayeah minimec i might have the same problem. its kind of making me wonder if i should even use ubuntu. i was so looking forward and its not working smoothly. and being a beginner of beginners its not really nice to not work, becuase i can berely help myself around. i just need it to work smothly. not like for example wifi, one day is working the next isnt... ?!?12:09
babilenCosmicCalamity: What do you mean by "fluid in function" ?12:10
melkoreer: I have no clue what that means. sshd will not require any gui's.12:10
gebbionehi all, nautilus file operations are kind of stuck sometimes when i copy files and folders dont auto refresh12:10
CosmicCalamityI don't know LOL I used v13.0.4 I think that's the one. Not the 10Beta.12:10
gebbioneis there an elegant way to manage and fix this rather than let's say unplugging a usb device u r copying stuff to?12:10
CosmicCalamityIt's very slow to click and react to what I ask it to do.12:10
kali_eskrimaminimec do you know if ubuntu has customer service in usa to call their 1800 number or something?12:11
hitsujiTMOCosmicCalamity: install unity-tweak-tool   and under 'search' disable background blur12:11
minimeckali_eskrima: Well that wifi problem is rather strange. Do you have both ranges 2.4 and 5GHZ? In that case I would only use 2.4 network.12:11
eerAnybody can recommend a real good tutorial about how xserver and Gnome/KDE are related?12:11
cgtdkeer: The Wikipedia article on X12:12
ikoniaeer: xserver runs, desktop runs on top of it12:12
ikoniaeer: simple12:12
kali_eskrimaminimec ok, sorry can you help me locate where is the option 2.4 and 5ghz?12:12
kali_eskrimashould i go to my router settings?12:12
minimeckali_eskrima: Check that on the router.12:12
eerthx will check it out.12:13
hitsujiTMOCosmicCalamity: what specs are the machine you are running?12:13
minimeceer: if you installed xserver-xorg, it did a basic default configuration. That should do for a ssh -X login.12:14
kali_eskrimaminimec and also ubunut "system settings" ...network.....its not letting me switch to "on" my wireless network. my other laptop, same ubuntu 12.10 no problem, every time localizes and finds my home wifi network. i set both laptops with the pass code and to my routerm, so they would always be able to use the wifi at home.12:14
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SchallaGood day. When I made a image of a PGP Encrypted HDD, can I access somehow the data in it, when I mount it with a vm or sth?12:14
kali_eskrimaminimec where on the router.. .the hardware itself or the settings online webpage12:14
CosmicCalamityJust a sec, I'm getting the unity tweak tool12:14
minimeckali_eskrima: Well the routers settings. You should know if you have a dual band or single band router.12:15
gebbioneanyone has any idea why the whole filesystem doesnt really work in ubuntu? empty bin doesnt empty and copying files gets stuck12:15
eerminimec, thx12:16
ikoniagebbione: come on !!! "doesn't really work"12:16
ikoniagebbione: if you can't even explain yourself, how do you expect anyone to even consider helping you12:16
cgtdkikonia: be nice12:16
kali_eskrimaminimec well... i dont know and i will check now.12:16
cgtdk!details ! gebbione12:16
ubottucgtdk: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:16
ikoniacgtdk: I'm stating a fact12:16
gebbioneikonia can u only focus on 4 words? havent u read the rest?12:16
ikoniagebbione: yes,12:16
cgtdk!details | gebbione12:16
ubottugebbione: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:16
ikoniagebbione: hence why you need to explain the real problem12:17
gebbionecgtdk, clicking empty bin doesnt empty12:17
cfhowlett!details|gebbione,12:17
ubottugebbione,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:17
flakyfilibusterhi everyone12:18
cgtdkhello12:18
cfhowlettflakyfilibuster, greetings12:18
gebbionecgtdk, clicking empty bin doesnt empty <- ubuntu 12.0412:18
drmagoogebbione, please do a 'sudo dmesg' and pastebin the last 40 lines the paste the link here12:18
ikoniagebbione: I suspect thats because you've run something as "root" which means you dont have permission to empty the recycle bin12:19
kali_eskrimaminimec where can i find about bands,? i use dlink router12:20
gebbionecgtdk, clicking empty bin doesnt empty <- ubuntu 12.04  ---- http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230994/12:21
minimeckali_eskrima: Mine is an Asus Router.... ;) Check you settings... Probably you only got a single band.12:22
kali_eskrimasettings....im lookin hold on.12:23
kali_eskrimaminimec i have channel width? is that the same?12:23
gebbioneikonia, before the bin problem i was transfering files to the Kingston usb pen but the operation got too slow. I tried to stop the file copying fromGUI but it stuck itself when i tried not moving at all ... so i manually unplugged the usb12:24
ikoniagebbione: that's probably caused corruption on the file system12:24
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Obi1good morning12:27
cfhowlettObi1, greetings12:27
Guest56691/help12:28
gebbioneikonia, it is really frustrating how it copies something really fast and then it gets stuck at 99.9% for a long time12:28
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ikoniagebbione: how big are the files you are copying ?12:28
gebbione738.1 of 741.5 copied <- it is showing this for the last 30 secs12:28
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Guest56691anyone know how to get flash to work in ubuntu 12.04?12:29
gebbioneMB12:29
ikoniagebbione: how long are we talking to move 750mb12:29
bekksGuest56691: works fine here.12:29
tramadol37mgHi12:29
gebbioneikonia, it took about 20sec to get where it is now and it is stuck at the moment still at 738.1MB while we chat12:30
bekksGuest56691: It needs to write done the I/O cache. It may take a while.12:30
ikoniagebbione: so either a.) your usb device is very slow and it's just finalising the copy b.) your files are corrupted and it can't read them to finish the copy12:30
gebbionebekks, can you play pogo games with your flash?12:30
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minimeckali_eskrima: I am just figguring out, where the problem could be on the router side. I would use the 2.4 band with something like 'g Only' network. The N network might give you some instability with wifi connection. Also use AES WPA encryption.12:31
Obi1exept Iptraf any other IP monitor tool for linux ?12:31
eerIf one installs xserver-xorg and evolution on a brand new system without Desktop environment and then starts Evolution, will Evolution run and look crappy because only xserver is installed or not run at all (only run over a tunnel to a system with a Desktop environment)?12:32
ikoniaeer: it will run as you see it on the client12:32
gebbioneikonia, finalising for 2 min is not cool, it just finished ... how can finalisation take so long12:32
ikoniaeer: I'd suggest just actually trying this and most of your questions will be answered,12:32
ikoniagebbione: your usb device is slow/poor12:32
gebbioneikonia, i dont get that on mac ... writes in seconds12:33
gebbionesame usb12:33
ikoniagebbione: what file system is on the usb12:33
gebbionemsdos12:33
eerikonia, will do, just can not because I am not at home at the moment. Just can't wait and need to know ahead of time. :)12:34
ikoniagebbione: it's possible your device is not been detected properly and run at full speed.12:34
ikoniaeer: you're asking questions though that are quite subjective, better to just wait, try it then raise any problems you've got12:34
gebbioneikonia, isnt this a proof that the kingston datatraveller is detected in full? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230994/ ... how can i check if it is being detected correctly12:35
helloI'm thinking of installing 13.10, should I wait till the official release on the 17th or is there no difference if I install the beta now?12:35
Laurie10Any suggestions for my issue? Quoted:12:35
ikoniagebbione: lots of bad stuff in there http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230994/12:35
hitsujiTMOhello: wait for release ... or even a few weeks after ...12:36
gebbionewhats the latest stable ubuntu12:36
ikoniagebbione: line 9, 14,18,21,22,,23,25,12:36
cfhowlett!stable12:36
ikoniagebbione: 13.0412:36
ubottuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.12:37
kali_eskrimaminimec i dont see any of the settings you are talkin about, only i chose wep or wpa encryption12:37
hitsujiTMOhello: that is if you want to be be guaranteed a stable system12:37
gebbioneikonia,  how do i upgrade from 12.0412:37
Laurie10"12:37
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ikoniagebbione: why do you want to upgrade ?12:37
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minimeckali_eskrima: Definitly WPA!12:37
gebbioneikonia, isnt 13.x an improvement?12:37
ikoniagebbione: depends on many things12:38
hellohitsujiTMO: Okay I see. What if I install the beta now and update it after the release, would it be the same thing or would I have to do clean install12:38
kali_eskrimaoh ok i chose personal wpa212:38
minimeckali_eskrima: Your router is capable to send different wireless modes. Newer ones have b/g/n. I would set it to 'g' only.12:38
CosmicCalamitySorry...kids. So, I downloaded the unity tweak app...where do I find it and how do I use it?12:38
kali_eskrimahold on wii change minimec12:38
TimPlazsuggestions for flash in 12.04????12:39
kali_eskrimai didnt see g options.... you mean 801 g?12:39
minimeckali_eskrima: yes12:39
hitsujiTMOhello: i'd presume it will update but i'm not 100% sure on that, i've never run beta: betst to ask that in #ubuntu+112:40
kali_eskrimaminimec oooooo o_O12:40
gebbioneTimPlaz, flash in general plays with the default flash available in synaptic ... still pogo games dont work for me12:40
hitsujiTMOCosmicCalamity: open the search menu and type unity  ... it should pop up as the first result12:40
TimPlazyoutube not working for me12:40
TimPlazinstalled latest version12:41
cfhowlettTimPlaz, you installed youtube????12:41
bekkscfhowlett: you didnt?! :)12:41
gebbioneikonia, that depends on many things should not exist in a bigger version ... it should be improvements only12:41
cfhowlettbekks, on my list of things to do ...12:41
BluesKajTimPlaz. install ubuntu-restricted-extras12:41
hitsujiTMOTimPlaz: the easiest way to get working flash is to install chrome, it has it's own flash player12:41
TimPlazlatest version of flash plugin....12:41
gebbioneTimPlaz, what browser12:41
hellohitsujiTMO: Okay thanks for the info12:41
TimPlazfirefox12:42
ikoniagebbione: no, it doesn't work like that12:42
cfhowlettTimPlaz, ubuntu-restricted-extras should address that as BluesKaj suggested12:42
TimPlazI have that install as well....will try chrome12:42
cgtdkWhat is the difference between the verious *ubuntu-restricted-extras packages?12:43
kali_eskrimaminimec what if i leave enable auto chanel scann?.......btw i only have 2.412, 2.417, 2.422, etyc...12:43
CosmicCalamityOk, I went in and disabled blur. But my reaction time is still terribly slow...info boxes, changing windows and such. Is that normal?12:43
TimPlazgoogle chrome or chrommium?12:43
hitsujiTMOchrome12:43
hitsujiTMOchromium does not come with a flash player12:43
TimPlazok12:43
gebbioneikonia, what does .... [sdd] No Caching mode page present ... is bad for?12:44
ikoniagebbione: it's not running caching12:44
minimeckali_eskrima: I would start with 'auto'. If you are not satisfied, I would start to play around with channels. It depends on how many neighbours with wifi router you have in your area.12:44
ikonia(at a device level)12:44
hitsujiTMOTimPlaz: you will need to get the deb from google.com/chrome and install it with: sudo dpkg -t pachage.deb12:44
BluesKajcgtdk. restricted package/extras includes , flash, java and various media codecs12:44
bekksgebbione: And you are having one bad sector at least.12:44
Obi1http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ chose linux version12:44
ikoniaor don't as it's pointless to get flash from adobe now12:45
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cgtdkBluesKaj: Yes, but what is the difference between, say, xubuntu-restricted-extras and ubuntu-restricted-extras?12:45
kali_eskrimaoh ok minimec, so u are saying that my ubuntu 12.04 is not recognizing my wifi because of the channels i have set on roter...hmmm12:46
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BluesKajcgtdk. nothing really12:47
cgtdkBluesKaj: So why are there different packages?12:47
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minimeckali_eskrima: I just try tune the routers settings a bit, to get a more stable connection. Do some tests with these changes. That's all I can do, as you say that sometimes the wifi card is wirking, and sometimes not.12:48
BluesKajcgtdk. dependes for the desktop , but th apps are the same12:49
cgtdkI see12:49
hitsujiTMOcgtdk: xubuntu-restricted-extras is intended for Xubuntu12:49
kali_eskrimaminimec yeah i will try. thank you i appreciate any help12:49
BluesKajerr dependencies/libs12:49
Obi1welcome plusEV12:50
tramadol37mgMy display service crashes everytime I attempt to load a high resolution image, or a graphicaly dense webpage. Then, it bounces to the login interface. Sometimes, the display is blurred by red lines and the mouse cursor is transparent (I have to press CTRL to retrive it). Sometimes, everything gets well.12:50
tramadol37mgI assume it's because a generic driver is installed instead of the one designed for my graphic card.12:50
tramadol37mgAnd maybe also because I kind of messed up the video configuration and the GNOME support long time ago, as I updated the system.12:50
tramadol37mgDo you have any idea how to recover that ?12:50
FloodBot1tramadol37mg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:50
BluesKajodd I don't see java in the restricted list anymore12:50
hitsujiTMOtramadol37mg: what exactly do you mean by "load a high resolution image" ?12:51
juniourhey when every my pc start one process start called .ruby.bin adn eats all my cpu power, how to stop12:51
juniourhow to stop it from startup???12:52
gebbionesome innit.d shit12:52
foofoobarSo I want to use vim with  command-t. Vim is compiled with ruby1.8, but I'm using ruby1.9. How do I get a vim version with ruby1.9 compiled?12:53
tramadol37mgEr, when I open a image in a high resolution format.12:53
juniourits a deamon process12:54
juniour?12:54
wjtayloris there a package that installs make, gcc, config, etc all in one package?12:54
hitsujiTMOtramadol37mg: with what application or is it any application?12:55
bekkswjtaylor: You asked that in #vbox just a few seconds ago and got an answer there.12:55
TimPlazmanaged to install go0ogle chrome....get error stating can not load flash pluggin12:55
tramadol37mgYes, with firefox.12:55
hitsujiTMOwjtaylor: build-essential12:55
wjtaylornice. thanks!12:56
TimPlazshockwave flash to be exact12:56
wjtaylorbekks: I didn't see it in the manual12:56
hitsujiTMOtramadol37mg: what graphics you got?12:57
bekkswjtaylor: that doesnt mean it isnt there.12:57
CosmicCalamityI'm going to have to come back to this later...my son's awake from his nap. Thanks for you help! Cheers!12:58
hitsujiTMOTimPlaz: goto chrome://plugins and see which one exactly has crashed12:59
wjtaylorbekks: True.12:59
tramadol37mgAthlon XP 250012:59
tramadol37mg(kind of old)12:59
hitsujiTMOtramadol37mg: what gpu you got?13:00
minimectramadol37mg: With that CPU, I would rarher ask... how much RAM do you have on that machine?13:01
tramadol37mgAh ok, I think I have 1024mb.13:03
bomberman45555why does no one ever speak on here13:03
auronandacetramadol37mg: 1gb isn't much in ram these days13:04
BluesKajever? , you've only been here for 1 min13:04
hitsujiTMOtramadol37mg: can you tell me what gpu you have and the result of: free -m13:04
minimectramadol37mg: If you are using ubuntu with unity and some additional stuff, this could get limit. You could try to install the xfce environment. Probably, you wil have a better desktop experience.13:04
cgtdk!xubuntu13:05
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels13:05
tramadol37mgindeed, auronandace ! Thanks minimec, I was thinking about it. I tried to replace it with KDE and it works quite well.13:06
tramadol37mghitsujiTMO :        total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached13:06
tramadol37mgMem:          1001        910         90          0         50        29013:07
tramadol37mg-/+ buffers/cache:        569        43113:07
tramadol37mgSwap:         1022         27        99513:07
auronandacetramadol37mg: kde would be more resource intensive than xfce13:07
auronandacetramadol37mg: lubuntu might be better for you13:07
auronandace!lubuntu | tramadol37mg13:08
ubottutramadol37mg: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.13:08
tramadol37mgOkay, great ! Thank you really much guys, that's kind.13:09
tramadol37mgThanks for your help, see you.13:10
cgtdkHow much lighter is Lubuntu compared to Xubuntu (by default)?13:10
auronandacecgtdk: i don't think there's much in it13:11
sophie_cgtdk,  I recently installed Lubuntu after trying XFCE on an old laptop from '07 that had 2gb ram and an intel core centrino 1.5ghz, lubuntu was significantly more responsive for me13:11
cgtdkI see13:12
sophie_I wasn't lightning fast by any count but it was very acceptable for what it was running on.13:12
sophie_*It13:12
minimeccgtdk: This is a guess (I don't use lxde/xfce): lxde<100mb /xfce 150-200mb footprint.13:12
Marleneecan i login my ssh server without need enter password every time using private and public key13:13
QuickieSo.... I don't have a "full" related Ubuntu question, but it is some-what related, anyone able to help?13:13
MonkeyDustQuickie  let's hear it, if it's not for this channel, we may tell you where to go instead13:14
MrElgstate your question Quickie, and then see if somebody can help, we can ask about asking questions about questions all day long13:14
hitsujiTMOMarlenee: yes13:15
MarleneehitsujiTMO : how13:15
QuickieSorry had to go afk for a sec, I meant to type it right after haha13:16
QuickieHave a Toshiba Satellite L855D-S5220, and every time it tries to boot it gives off a "Bootfailed <disk>" error <disk> being any "HDD, USB drive, Bootable CD etc."13:17
MonkeyDustQuickie  in ubuntu?13:17
QuickieEverything, Ubuntu CDs, USB drives, and also Windows CDs and USB drives13:18
QuickieSo it's semi Ubuntu related, but laptop related also.13:18
auronandaceQuickie: sounds hardware related13:18
everestbut toshiba is the company that supports ubuntu13:19
QuickieAny way to trouble shoot other than just assuming it's the mobo? haha. I've checked all ribbons, connectors, etc.13:19
QuickieRemoved CD drive, ram sticks.13:19
minimecQuickie: Reset the BIOS to its default settings once.13:19
everestdoes windwos boot or not??13:19
everestif no os boots then its hardware problem13:20
everestelse it might just be issue with UEFI boot13:20
Quickieminimec: I forgot to try that haha/ And everest it doesn't even boot at all13:20
minimecQuickie: Also shutdown the pc once. pull out the battery, wait 20 sec...13:21
Quickieminimec: Think removing the cmos battery would help too?13:22
minimecQuickie: That is often rather tricky on laptops. Would be my last guess.13:23
xll11Is it possible to install ubuntu without burning it on a CD? say I already have a windows machine and I want to dujal boot13:23
cfhowlett!usb|xll11,13:24
ubottuxll11,: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent13:24
cfhowlett!dualboot|xll11,13:24
ubottuxll11,: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot13:24
charlieim trying to boot ubuntu 13.04 on a usb drive from OS X. After the "fasten your seatbelts" screen, I get nothing :(13:25
cfhowlettxll11, make a usb of ubuntu, boot and install.  follow the links for dualboot procedures13:25
cfhowlett!mac|charlie,13:26
ubottucharlie,: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages13:26
xll11isn't it a no brainer? I just install ubuntu on an empty partition13:26
charlieon the usb drive? i did that13:27
minimecxll11: It depends on the system. I love to have a seperate /home partition13:27
cfhowlettxll11, thought you said "dualboot"?  install windows THEN ubunut13:28
charlieI see, rEFIt troubleshooting says "Booting Windows or Linux from an external disk is not well-supported by Apple’s firmware. It may work for you, but if it does not work, there is nothing rEFIt can do about it."13:28
cfhowlettubuntu13:28
xll11I already have windows installed, and I'm new to using linux, so I don't have any prefrences yet =)13:29
cfhowlettcharlie, if the FIRMWARE doesn't support, little ubuntu can do either ...13:29
charlieyeah, i guess13:30
sophie_I once had linux working via reFit on my macbook pro, then I tried it again one day (from a usb) and my computer stopped booting at all unless I tried like 5 times in a row, I took it to the apple store and they insisted on repacing the RAM and Mobo, hehe.13:31
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minimecxll11: If the computer has USB3, I would consider to buy a sandisk extreme 64gb for 60EUR and do the first test with that. It's faster then my internal hdd. Otherwise you are right. In your case i would install ubuntu on one single partition.13:32
mrwnHi, has anyone succeded in installing google web designer in ubuntu?13:35
wjtaylorIs there any way to install the lamp stack all at once, like in the setup of ubuntu server 12.04?13:37
cfhowlett!lamp13:37
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.13:37
wjtaylorcfhowlett: gracias13:37
RhinullHow do I move the "minimize, maximize, close" button to the right hand side?13:38
cfhowlettwjtaylor, best of luck to you.13:38
DJonesmrwn: Its not something I've heard of of, but this thread on askubuntu might be of help http://askubuntu.com/questions/291340/gwt-google-web-toolkit-designer-not-working-on-ubuntu-13-0413:38
mrwnDJones: ok, thanks man13:39
mrwnDJones: i meant this https://www.google.com/webdesigner/13:40
HelloWorld42Hi13:41
cfhowletthelloworld, greetings13:42
DJonesmrwn: Thats not something I've seen I'm afraid13:42
HelloWorld42My laptop is having some overheating issues. I did some tests, and the mobo temp is always a few degrees higher than CPU. Is that normal, for the mobo to have higher temps than CPU?13:42
mrwnDJones: ok, thanks pro13:45
liahimcociubaexit13:46
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Marleneecan someone help me to make cron job for public & private key for ssh login ?13:48
Andrea4hello, any way to set mouse DPI in Ubuntu 12.10 ?13:48
RhinullHow do I move the "minimize, maximize, close" button to the right hand side?13:51
DJones!controls | Rhinull (Hopefully the bots link is still up to date),13:52
ubottuRhinull (Hopefully the bots link is still up to date),: Starting in Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information and workarounds, please see http://pad.lv/53263313:52
Laurenceb_hi13:52
Laurenceb_can someone please help me restore the network manager applet?13:53
Laurenceb_it is missing from my notification area13:53
jeffrey_fI am in need of a quick and dirty script to keep an external drive up to date:  I have a music folder on my computer which I have copied to a portable drive.  I want to copy new, but not delete any files from A to B then from B to A.13:56
fideljeffrey_f: might be a job for rsync13:57
yenalhi can somebody help me Im trying to compile festige on 64bit host but pkg-config keeps looking in the wrong PKG_CONFIG_PATH although it has been set to PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkgconfig && export PKG_CONFIG_PATH13:57
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yenalit still looks into /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/13:58
xtriz_where can i find default isolinux.cfg file ?13:58
MonkeyDust!find festige13:58
ubottuPackage/file festige does not exist in raring13:58
yenalyes it doesnt exist thats why I have to compile the source code13:59
daixtris mini.iso a minimal ubuntu without x11?14:00
DJones!minimal | daixtr14:01
ubottudaixtr: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:01
jeffrey_fFidel, would you have a quick example14:02
hitsujiTMOdaixtr: you can run ubuntu server if you want a TUI install14:02
xtriz_where can i find default isolinux.cfg file ?14:05
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cafreeWould anyone be able to explain to me why some mp3's I have are recognized in Ubuntu with the attached cover art (and is used as a thumbnail) and some aren't?14:06
everestexit14:06
xtrizcafree, because some of them have meta data attach with them.14:10
cafreextriz, using EasyTag, I attach the cover art in the ID3 tag.  However only some display that as a thumbnail, and I can't figure out why14:13
jeffrey_fI am in need of a rsync script to keep an external drive up to date:  I have a music folder on my computer (A) which I have copied to a portable drive (B).  I want to copy/replace new/changed, but not delete any files from A to B then from B to A.  I had one a while ago which worked very well, but lost it.  Paste bin if you can14:13
daixtrhitsujiTMO: i want an ubuntu for headless server14:15
buujeffrey_f: http://git-annex.branchable.com/assistant/14:15
hitsujiTMOdaixtr: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server   unlike ubuntu desktop, ubuntu server does not come with an xserver14:17
hitsujiTMOits exactly what you want14:17
sophie_Is the lack of GUI the only difference between Ubuntu and server?14:18
sophie_Or does Ubuntu come with pre-installed server software like MySQL and Apache etc?14:18
stegolack of DE14:18
stegoso no Unity or similar enviroments14:19
stegojust the base install14:19
enackshow di i install nvidia Geforce GTX 765m on to V13.04?14:20
geirhasophie_: but by uninstalling and intalling the right set of packages, you can turn a server install into a desktop install, and vice versa.14:21
hitsujiTMOsophie_ there are a few other minor differences ... but the differences tend to get smaller with each ubuntu release. ubuntu server also has a 'minimal option' which reduces includes a more reduced set of apps14:21
liquidmetalI'm trying to su into a user, but it's not working...14:22
liquidmetalthe prompt just returns without anything happening14:22
liquidmetalWhat might be happening14:22
liquidmetal% su nginx14:22
hitsujiTMOliquidmetal try: sudo su nginx14:23
enacksThere was a problem opening the file /home/enackers/Downloads…inux-x86_64-319.60(1).run.14:23
liquidmetalhitsujiTMO, nope14:24
buuliquidmetal: A) run whoami14:24
buuB) strace14:24
buuC) What is nginx's shell set to?14:24
liquidmetal% su nginx14:24
liquidmetal% whoami14:25
liquidmetalroot14:25
liquidmetal(running this as root)14:25
hitsujiTMOliquidmetal is su working for other users or you having this issue with just nginx user?14:28
liquidmetalhttp://superuser.com/questions/566041/cannot-switch-to-jenkins-user-redhat-linux14:28
liquidmetalthat answers it14:29
buuI mentioned that =[14:29
liquidmetalbuu, thanks!14:32
buu=]14:33
cartusiaAlright so this is the problem, have a Toshiba laptop got an error from what I have been reading from Google the problem seems to be hard drive related (PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE ROM, problem). The computer has Windows 7 Home as its OS. I just stuck an Ubuntu CD to see if I can back up the info and wipe the hard drive, but I connected an external hard drive and that is the only thing I am seeing14:38
cartusiaso does that mean that it is not detecting the hard drive?14:38
cartusiaI checked under the media folder14:38
cartusiaand saw nothing :(14:38
cartusiaThanks appreciated14:38
hitsujiTMOcartusia: PXE is network boot14:39
cartusiayes I am aware14:39
cartusiaI tried changing the BIOS to its original state14:39
cartusiabut it made no difference14:40
MonkeyDustcartusia  with the live usb inserted, what's the output of    sudo blkid ?   use pastebin to show us14:40
cartusiakk14:40
oalI found "dovecot-postfix - mail server delivery agent stack provided by Ubuntu server team" in apt. Is there any information about it?14:41
hitsujiTMOapt-cache show dovecot-postfix14:42
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hitsujiTMOoal also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix14:43
nrdbI am using libvirt and have setup an isolated network for some VMs :-) ... now how can I get only the host to be able to have an interface on this isolated network?14:43
cartusiahttp://pastebin.com/7NJrYTFB14:43
oalhitsujiTMO, thanks :)14:43
rosemaryubottu !nonfree14:44
ubottuWhen we use the term 'non-free', we mean that it is not Open Source. Software that is not open source cannot be fixed or improved by anyone except the software authors -- which is not us :(14:44
rosemaryhitsujiTMO, I need to install the non free codecs and I have forgotten the apt-get command14:45
hitsujiTMOsudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras14:45
rosemaryhitsujiTMO, thanks14:46
loahow i can installed all packages?14:46
loaget *14:46
cartusiabrb14:46
loahow i can get list of installed applications?14:47
hitsujiTMOdpkg --get-selected14:47
MonkeyDustloa  dpkg -L | grep ii14:47
loaSorry for that, i little sleepy and can't clearly discribe what i need :)14:47
loaIt will show only that applications which i installed?14:47
hitsujiTMOsorry loa: dpkg --get-selections14:47
MonkeyDustloa  hitsujiTMO's reply is better14:48
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loalooks like there is not only mine applications.14:48
loathere is system wide applications.14:48
flashUbunDoes anyone know of any keyboards without a Windows Key?14:49
somsipflashUbun: there ar eplenty of decent keyboards that offer changable key sets, eg Filco14:50
zbrkxbrhi guys14:52
zbrkxbrI need some help oever there14:53
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flashUbunCheers somsip. I'll take a look. Mechanical right? Any idea where I could get a linux/Ubuntu keycap?#14:53
zbrkxbrI have a free nas private server on my old IBM r40 I can reach it via nautilus but  when I try to copy something from my nas server nautilus is just frozen14:53
MonkeyDustzbrkxbr  ubuntu?14:54
somsipflashUbun: I ordered from www.keyboardco.com but that's in the UK. ISTR they did Ubuntu keys. Yes, mechanical14:54
zbrkxbryeap14:54
hitsujiTMOzbrkxbr: try copying via command line14:54
flashUbunsomsip - UK here too.14:54
zbrkxbr:S command line ?14:54
zbrkxbrI'm not good via command line14:54
MonkeyDustzbrkxbr  now's the time to learn :)14:55
hitsujiTMOcp oldpath newpath14:55
zbrkxbrhow can I coppy muttiple fiels14:55
zbrkxbr(my keyboard sucks at that time)14:55
hitsujiTMOlike: cp /media/zbrkxbr/nas/* ~/Desktop14:55
tozenflashUbun: UK allways here, pal :)14:56
MonkeyDustzbrkxbr  start with a single file, to see what it does and get familiar with it14:56
zbrkxbrhmmm14:56
flashUbunI found these: http://www.keyboardco.com/product/ubuntu-logo-windows-keys-2-keycaps-for-cherry-mx-switches.asp Nice!14:56
zbrkxbrlet me give aq shot14:56
zbrkxbra*14:56
hitsujiTMOstart with a small file too, so you can see if that's freezing too or not14:56
zbrkxbrguys15:03
zbrkxbrnautilus problem sloved15:03
zbrkxbrI don't know why but15:03
zbrkxbrit did15:03
MonkeyDust!yay | zbrkxbr15:03
ubottuzbrkxbr: Glad you made it! :-)15:03
zbrkxbr:)15:03
zbrkxbrthanks all of you :)15:04
gdosi was using dwww to browse through man pages and it worked for a while but not anymore. now my webserver settings seemed to have been hosed. even when i type http://localhost i get a page not found error. how can i fix this?15:04
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theunholyhello15:06
theunholyI installed Ubuntu on a old P4 and have no eth0 or internet.  i think its a marvell chip from a msi mobo...15:06
ph8hi all, i've got about 10 VMs in Windows Azure, they're in multiple regions and existing Azure limitations mean i can't group them and firewall them - they must all be firewalled individually. Without paying through the nose for landscape are there any solutions out there that will let me manage the firewalls on all of them from one location/gui?15:07
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faugusztintheunholy: execute this command and give us the link: lspci | pastebinit15:09
theunholyThank you, hold on :)15:10
faugusztinoh wait :P15:10
faugusztinyou don't have internet there LOL15:10
faugusztinwell, give me a second15:10
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theunholyLoL.  I think I might not have drivers for this old lan on board.15:10
faugusztintheunholy: lspci | grep Ethernet15:10
theunholyI type that as two seperate? or lspci | grep Ethernet15:11
faugusztinyou type it as one line15:11
theunholyI'm new to this.  Just installed newest Ubuntu.15:11
MonkeyDusttheunholy  newest: 13.04 or 13.10 ?15:11
theunholyMonkey i'm not sure then i think its 13.04 i picked newest not most stable...15:12
MonkeyDusttheunholy  what's the output of   lsb_relase -sr15:13
flashUbunJust want to double check with you guys, If I install 13.10 (Final Beta), I'm guessing I can just update the thing to final on the 17th like any old update and it'd be like installing from the final ISO right?15:13
theunholyhold on15:13
MonkeyDusttheunholy  lsb_release -sr    <-- i typo'd earlier15:13
yenalhi how do I permanently change global environment variables ..edit /etc/environment?15:13
Danny67892Hellokdfjljkasdfdfjklasdajklsadjsdajksdjkalsdjkasjklasda15:13
Danny67892spammming15:13
Danny67892!!!!!!!!15:14
zbrkxbrhow can I run a script15:14
violazioneciao15:14
ph8what kind of script zbrkxbr ?15:14
violazione!list15:14
ubottuviolazione: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».15:14
zbrkxbran installation script for an icon theme15:14
andrytest15:15
andry:P15:15
ph8zbrkxbr, does it have a file extension?15:16
hitsujiTMOzbrkxbr assuming it has +x permissions: ./scripname    should be sufficient for most scripts15:16
theunholy13.04 and lspci | grep Ethernet returns no errors but doesn't output, just opens a new line in term15:16
gdosi was using dwww to browse through man pages and it worked for a while but not anymore. now my webserver settings seemed to have been hosed. even when i type http://localhost i get a page not found error. how can i fix this?15:16
zbrkxbrkurulum yönergeleri (text/x-install)15:16
andrytry grep -i ethernet15:16
fixingmywifiminimec15:16
pinqvin_ Is it possible to get my sd drive work in my toshiba? Device is Toshiba America Info Systems SD TypA Controller (rev 03)15:16
theunholyI need to mention that I uninstalled network-manager-gnome i think it was because i heard it was a problem with just that and the network would pick up when the other one was uninstalled?15:17
j0llyr0tteni'm having trouble with Xorg and DPI15:17
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x684867@theunholy...you broke your network stack, my friend.15:17
j0llyr0ttenintel HD4000 seems to ignore its own findings and default to 96 dpi15:18
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faugusztintheunholy: can you find out what board you have ?15:18
andryj0llyr0tten, did you try 'Option "DPI" "X x X"' as xorg option?15:19
faugusztintheunholy: sudo dmidecode | less15:19
theunholyIt's a MSI-6728 I think it's a Marvell chip15:20
x684867@faugsztin...read the earlier comments by @theunholy.  He uninstalled network-manager, which would have had many dependencies that would have hosed the network stack entirely.15:20
drake01Hi guys, I need to monitor and kill some processes on two linux boxes from a third one. All three are in a lan. On the current machine, I can easily monitor the desired processes. How to go for 2 remote ones?15:20
faugusztintheunholy: then search for "Base board information"15:20
theunholyYeah and now all im left with is a DVD and can't reinstall any software with jsut the cd?15:20
fixmywifiplzdrake01  top15:20
faugusztinx684867: that is all fine and nice, but that doesn't change the fact that his device is not detected at all, so the software side is absolutely irrelevant15:20
fixmywifiplzdrake01  pidof15:20
theunholySearch where?  Base board information in terminal?15:21
zbrkxbrguy I found it15:21
zbrkxbrbut I have another issue15:21
Marleneecan i add path in /etc/ssh/sshd_config for anothe ssh keys as abackup15:21
fixmywifiplzdrake01  then kill (pid)15:21
j0llyr0ttenandry: no15:21
zbrkxbrinstruction says I should run ./INSTALL15:21
theunholyyeah I figured i would just reinstall the software when i get the drivers in15:21
faugusztintheunholy: nevermind, you already gave the MSI-6728 info15:21
zbrkxbrbut terminal says I can't reach the file :S15:21
drake01fixmywifiplz:  how to monitor the processes on remote machines using top?15:21
theunholyit's the red board, almost pink looking.15:21
fixmywifiplzssh15:21
theunholyp4 3 ghz15:21
j0llyr0ttenandry: i set the DisplaySize in the Monitor section and it ignored that15:21
fixmywifiplzdrake01  use ssh15:21
hitsujiTMOzbrkxbr are you in the same directory as the file when you type ./INSTALL?15:22
j0llyr0ttenandry: weird thing is that it knows what the correct display size is15:22
theunholy865pe neo 215:22
zbrkxbrhitsujitme: yes15:22
zbrkxbro*15:22
theunholyjust looked on the mobo, 865pe neo 2, she oldddd lol15:22
hitsujiTMOwhat is the exact error?15:22
faugusztintheunholy: there is lots of those boards, and all have different network adapters :(15:23
Vivekanandahello everyone is there a google drive client for 12.04Lts ?15:23
drake01fixmywifiplz:  I have to ssh using a password to remote machines because the remote machines don't use keys. How to go for it if I want to conceal my password?15:23
Tylertwoyenal, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables15:23
gdoshow do i get file:///var/www/index.html to display on http://localhost or http://192.168.*.* or http://hostname(systemname) - when i open these pages i get an ERROR 40415:23
theunholyi'm sure its a marvell15:24
faugusztintheunholy: you should have  Realtek® 8100C or 8110S15:24
theunholyhmm15:24
Marleneeany idea about my question ??15:24
pfifogdos: install a httpd15:24
drake01fixmywifiplz: I want to write a portable bash script to do so15:24
theunholyhow can i check that?15:24
hitsujiTMOVivekananda: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-google-drive-client-grive-and-grive-tools15:24
faugusztintheunholy: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/#/?sk=Archive&kw=865 find your board there, but most of them have Realtek15:24
zbrkxbrproblem sloved guys thanks for the help15:25
fixmywifiplzdrake01  im not entirely sure about a script, but some thing that gets the command  (pidof) will get you the id of a program15:25
streulmahello, I have Ubuntu now, but I want to run Windows in a virtual machine, our Dell dvd is lost. I live not in the UK and cannot ask Dell to send a dvd. What can I do to run Windows?15:26
yenalyep and there is said: System-wide environment variables are set in /etc/environment ..but changing there dont take effect even after rebooting15:26
Tylertwoyenal, what exactly do you want to change?15:26
theunholyK hold on bud, ill check.  then what you thinkin?  we gotta install the nic drivers from a thumb drive?15:26
yenalPKG_CONFIG_PATH15:26
faugusztintheunholy: one maybe a bit stupid question - is the Ethernet adapter enabled in BIOS ? I remember MSI boards from similar era had a nasty bug when after warm reboot made the ethernet adapter "dissapear" until next cold reboot.15:26
theunholyYeah onboard lan is enabled in bios from first run...15:27
drake01fixmywifiplz: to get the id of a process running on remote machine, I need to ssh to the machine. But I don't want to do it manually. So I need to ssh without revealing my password?15:28
fixmywifiplzdrake01 so i would do it like  pidof chromium-browser >> ./kill && pidof whatever >> ./kill15:28
fixmywifiplzthen that would make a list of the pids you want to kill15:28
pfifodrake01: you can setup encryption keys to use ssh without using a password15:28
faugusztintheunholy: i mean check again if you can still see the option ;). anyway, i would like you to execute this and then copy /tmp/lspci.txt to thumbdrive, then upload to a pastebin : lspci -vv > /tmp/lspci.txt15:28
yenalTylertwo: after each reboot when i echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH  ...no path is set although PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkgconfig" is written in /etc/environment ..so I have to export it manually each time :/15:29
jmurrib21Question: I'm receiving updates for ubuntu but there's always an error after the install that tells me to free space in the /boot directory.15:30
jmurrib21how can i do that?15:30
drake01pfifo: How to go for setting up encryption keys? Do I need some program to do it. Can same key be useful if no. of remote boxes increases to 5-6 boxes15:30
user82hi. i wanted to test the internal (intel) graphics on my pc. i usually have a nvidia pcie card. now it boots well, 3d works, but some apps complain "libGL.so.1 missing"15:30
pfifoyenal: you could set it from bashrc15:30
user82does anyone know how i can fix this, so i can switch between intel and nvidia?15:30
gonzaHello! I just installed ubuntu through Wubi. And my headphone jack won't work in windows for some reason.15:31
Tylertwoyenal, yeah, try bashrc15:31
yenalokay ill try although ubuntu manual says: "Not recommended anymore"15:31
theunholythat just spit out how to use lspci....15:31
theunholyit didnt run correctly.  are you sure its lspci -vv /tmp/lspci.txt ???15:32
gonzaAnyone who has encountered this issue before?15:32
pfifodrake01: its really easy, ssh client comes with the tools to do it, but I forget the exact details of the commands to run, however google will know. Im pretty sure you can generate 1 key on your desktop and then upload that one key to mutiple servers.15:32
yenalokay this works ty guys :)15:32
faugusztintheunholy: no, lspci -vv should give you verbose list of items on your computer...15:32
jmurrib21gonza, i think you need to click on the speaker icon, then try to test your sound card with your headphones on15:33
pfifoyenal: everything is no longer recommended on ubuntu :(15:33
Tylertwoyenal, :)15:33
gonzaI've done that, i get a pop up that says that i connected something in the headphone jack but no sound.15:33
gonzaUninstalled ubuntu and it started working again.15:33
babinlonstonAny Software to Draw a image in ubuntu 13.04, im making one video tutorial and i need to Draw a Picture for that , in which software u can Draw15:34
gonzaThe headphone jack works perfectly in ubuntu15:34
PwrSurgeany tricks to try and update from an old ubuntu release to the current verison?15:34
pfifobabinlonston: I use the gimp15:34
faugusztinbabinlonston: GIMP, Libreoffice Draw ?15:34
PwrSurgehave an old laptop that has 10.10 and want to upgrade it15:35
babinlonstonoh is it possible in liber office draw ?15:35
PwrSurgekeep getting an error that it was not able to calculate dependencies15:35
babinlonstonpfifo: oh i dont have idea to draw in gimp its have lot of options15:35
faugusztinbabinlonston: not sure, never tried to be honest15:35
pfifobabinlonston: theres tuxpaint which is more like mspaint than photoshop15:36
babinlonstonfaugusztin: ok let mt try15:36
babinlonstonpfifo: ok let me try it ...15:36
wiehanHow can one see what is causing a high system load if on the top command there is really no CPU hogging application?15:36
pfifoheh 'tuxpaint - A paint program for young children' that sounds a little offensive15:37
flashUbunha15:37
Tylertwowiehan, check out "ps aux"15:38
faugusztinbabinlonston: well i wouldn't recommend it for drawing :D15:38
babinlonstonfaugusztin: liber draw Dont have the options for Drawing15:38
VivekanandahitsujiTMO: trying to install via that page gives me dependency errors. What should I do ? https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/696364615:39
faugusztinbabinlonston: yeah, seem so15:39
babinlonstonpfifo: ya its arounf 50 MB and its Downloading i think it will Work Around15:39
theunholyok ill pastebin it now15:39
theunholyhttp://pastebin.com/E5mF24rb15:40
pfifobabinlonston: im pretty sure google has online image editor too.15:40
Anarcociclistahi to all15:40
babinlonstonpfifo: let me check it15:40
faugusztintheunholy: the only thing there is the wifi adapter with BCM4306, you have no other network device15:41
babinlonstonpfifo: no it wont help me , I need to Draw manually15:41
theunholyYeah lame.  Wanna get the wireless adapter to work?15:41
theunholyWould that allow me to update the nic drivers easily?15:41
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Vivekanandaif anyone else can comment on dependency issues and what I should do now when trying to install grive https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/696364615:41
theunholyits a linksys pci card15:41
babinlonstonVivekananda: ???15:41
wiehanTylertwo, what should I be looking for?15:42
theunholywmp54GS15:42
PwrSurgeCould not calculate the upgrade15:42
PwrSurgeAn unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:15:42
PwrSurgeE:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.15:42
PwrSurgeno held packages though15:42
babinlonstonVivekananda: which version of Ubuntu u using ?15:42
pfifoPwrSurge: first ting I always do is 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f'15:43
faugusztintheunholy: should work out of box, but you killed networkmanager :D https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx15:43
dinosaurvskittenis there a way to find out why a specific package was installed? (I know some package was installed as a dependency for *something*, but don't know what that something is)15:43
tozenexit15:43
Vivekananda12.04 and I followd grive-tools install guide from here -- http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-google-drive-client-grive-and-grive-tools15:43
Tylertwowiehan, well you'll prolly want to pipe it through less (ps aux | less) and look for processes using a lot of CPU and/or MEM15:43
faugusztintheunholy: with the b43 driver15:43
theunholyOK so can you help me put network manager back in from the DVD?15:44
flashUbunSpeaking of upgrade, can I upgrade 13.10 beta to final with just sudo apt-get upgrade?15:44
faugusztintheunholy: well, unless it needs that firmware, then do what that page says, but only after you got networkmanager back15:44
theunholyor am i boned?15:44
Tylertwowiehan, You can sort it for CPU/MEM via "ps aux |sort -nrk 3 | less" and "ps aux |sort -nrk 4 | less"15:44
Vivekanandababinlonston: ^15:44
babinlonstonVivekananda: nanba15:45
faugusztintheunholy: i would reinstall and try to find out why your wired ethernet is not showing up - my best guess is what i said before - warm reboot = no network interface, cold reboot = network interface is there15:45
dinosaurvskittenthe answer is apt-cache rdepends15:45
hitsujiTMOVivekananda: follow this to sort dependancies: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/node/15115:45
babinlonstonVivekananda: follow the steps  sudo apt-get install grive15:46
irenicus09hi I need help getting my radeon hd8750m graphics card to work15:46
gonzaany1? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/23728615:46
irenicus09I've switched over to ubuntu in the hope that my graphics card might finally work15:47
theunholySo theres no easy way to reinstall network from the DVD?15:47
theunholymaybe a repair install will work?15:47
irenicus09pls help me :(15:47
njsgirenicus09: don't switch distros just to make sure something works without first understanding what is the cause of your problem15:48
jmurrib21How to resize /boot in an encrypted drive?15:48
Vivekanandababinlonston: I did not get you . I already tried sudo apt-get and got errors which I posted --- https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/696364615:48
SchallaExcuse me, what's the default Ubuntu 12.04 login manager, and can you still theme it?15:48
faugusztintheunholy: btw this is exactly what i mean : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=46910.015:48
njsgirenicus09: I don't even see hd8xxx in the list http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index5h215:49
irenicus09njsg: true that but compared to the distro I was in their community was pretty small and support was lacking15:49
irenicus09ubuntu has a larger user base so I have a higher chance of getting help in fixing my problem15:49
funhey folks15:49
funwho here used vdbench?15:49
VivekanandahitsujiTMO; your link says :  NOTE : Ubuntu 12.04 32bit is not supported.15:50
faugusztintheunholy: seems like some stuff on that motherboard works depending on random generator - will device X work on it today ? let's roll a dice :)15:50
funlol Vivekananda  what a name15:50
fun:P15:50
funhi15:50
hitsujiTMOahh sorry, just 64bit15:50
theunholyso repair the install and just reboot?15:50
funI want to modify Storage Definitions in vdbech any idea which file to modify?15:50
irenicus09njsg: I heard amd devs are shy about listing their new features in the veta driver15:50
irenicus09beta*15:51
theunholyThen do what that guide says to get the wireless card working?15:51
funso far I get Raw device '/dev/sdl' does not exist15:51
fun:P15:51
njsgirenicus09: this is not from AMD15:51
njsgirenicus09: that is the radeon driver, the open driver for AMD cards15:51
njsgirenicus09: but from AMD, I can't find the card in the list, either15:51
njsgirenicus09: I'd guess that it's so new that, if there is any driver, you are likely to have to be stuck with the proprietary one for a while until radeon supports the card15:52
Vivekanandafun: ? sth interesting in it ? :)15:52
pfifoim impressed, the saucy 64 bit livecd seems to run alot faster than the precise 64 bit livecd, way to turn things around ubuntu!15:52
funlol well it just claims u to be be ananada15:52
fun:D15:52
faugusztintheunholy: you can try, yes. and try what i said before - when everything is done, try to turn off your computer, then start it up again, and then check if the ethernet didn't came back15:52
faugusztintheunholy: i mean the ethernet adapter :)15:53
irenicus09njsg: what can I do to get the proprietary drivers to work?15:54
tozenexit15:54
irenicus09tozen: fail lol15:54
Ari-Yangirenicus09: proprietary drivers for which card?15:54
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MonkeyDustguys, I want to get rid of this "crypt", don't know or remember how it got there, how do I do it? http://pastebin.com/tEceXdK6  <-- lsblk15:56
irenicus09Ari-Yang: radeon hd8750m15:57
pfifoMonkeyDust: comment the correct entry in /etc/fstab or /etc/crypttab15:57
robert__t15:57
cafreeWould anyone be able to explain to me why some mp3's I have are recognized in Ubuntu with the attached cover art (and is used as a thumbnail) and some aren't?  I've attached the covert art on the ID3 tag (via EasyTag), but can't figure out what the difference is.15:57
Vivekanandahey eveyrone I guess I broke dependencies in my ubuntu. now I dont know whta to do15:57
MonkeyDustpfifo  yes, but then I have no swap anymore?15:57
funVivekananda:  but u are guru15:58
funhow u dont know what to do? :D15:58
pfifoMonkeyDust: run 'sudo mkswap' on that partition to turn it into a normal swap and then add an entry to fstab for it15:58
Ari-Yangirenicus09: personally I do not recommend using fglrx.... it has terrible 2d acceleration15:58
funhey DivineEntity  :D15:59
Ari-Yangirenicus09: not to mention your desktop may mess up after installing, I've witnessed others who have installed fglrx and got ruined desktops... you'd only use fglrx for gaming BUT even the radeon open source driver is on par with it15:59
irenicus09Ari-Yang: my card doesn't have any opensource driver I think so I just need to make it work at whatever the cost15:59
Ari-Yangirenicus09: by default you're using radeon :/15:59
VivekanandaI was first trying to install grive but couldnot so I resorted to installing dropbox using this -- http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-dropbox-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/  .  and I got errors then I tried to do it via the software centre and I get this -he following packages have unmet dependencies:nautilus-dropbox:15:59
scarleoirenicus09, did you try download it from AMD site?16:00
irenicus09Ari-Yang: when I do lspci -k it doesnt show any driver as being loaded16:00
irenicus09I guess the intell driver is in use16:00
Vivekanandafun: I guess you are not aware the ubuntu has a separate channel for off topic. Very soon you might be reprimanded for using this channel for non ubuntu chatting16:00
irenicus09scarleo: ya I'm downloading that now as we speak16:00
Ari-Yangscarleo: bad idea... you should install it from ubuntu's repos16:00
Ari-Yangirenicus09: okay... good luck16:00
scarleoAri-Yang, if that didn't work, try something else :)16:01
Ari-Yangscarleo: if what didn't work?....16:01
irenicus09Ari-Yang: I tried the ones from ubuntu but it gives error as card not being detected or something16:01
Ari-Yangirenicus09: what does lspci | grep VGA give you?16:01
scarleoAri-Yang, install it from ubuntu's repos16:01
Ari-Yangk16:02
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irenicus09Ari-Yang: hold on16:02
funhttp://198.199.77.140/output/summary.html16:02
funhow come its so slow16:02
funthey are using ssd disks16:02
irenicus09Ari-Yang:  lspci | grep VGA16:02
irenicus0900:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)16:02
Ari-Yangirenicus09: uhhhh is that it?16:02
irenicus09Ari-Yang: yes16:03
Ari-Yangirenicus09: that's an intel card... why are you downloading AMD driver then?16:03
Ari-Yang.___.16:03
scarleohehe16:03
* Ari-Yang headesk16:03
irenicus09Ari-Yang: 01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Mars [Radeon HD 8670A/8750M]16:03
melkorwin 216:03
Ari-Yangirenicus09: ah, dual graphics16:03
irenicus09yup16:03
irenicus09lol16:03
Ari-Yangirenicus09: so if it's using intel right now.... you should make the AMD one the default one before installing catalyst16:04
theunholySo what your telling me is if I just didn't freak out at first boot and shutdown instead of restart it woulda worked the next boot?16:04
irenicus09Ari-Yang: how do I do that actually16:04
scarleoirenicus09, might be a BIOS setting16:04
irenicus09scarleo: there's no bios settin / option to enable/disable a card16:04
Ari-Yangirenicus09: I forget... I think there's a command or vgaswitcheroo or something.. google?16:05
irenicus09from what I've heard it's a hybrid switchable graphics16:05
faugusztintheunholy: possible, that board simply has issues, a lots of it :)16:05
theunholythanks16:05
theunholyit is only going to serve folders and files on a lan :-p16:06
theunholyit is a abortion of a machine16:06
irenicus09I've had this laptop for like 6 months and still no solution to get my card working :(16:06
scarleoirenicus09, Did you try this? Point 3.2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI16:07
irenicus09scarleo: ok taking a look16:08
Ari-Yangirenicus09: that's for installing the driver... you want to make the amd card default and for installing the driver you'd start from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_upstream_drivers_directly_from_AMD.27s_website16:08
Vivekanandaanyone care to comment on my problem of dependency issues with nautilus-dropbox16:08
Ari-Yangirenicus09: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics I found that by googling :b16:10
pfifoVivekananda: use ubuntu one... that my humble opinion16:10
Ari-Yangirenicus09: why do you want to install fglrx again, and what ubuntu version are you running on?16:11
PwrSurgedon't know why it's so hard to upgrade Ubuntu16:12
Vivekanandapfifo: thanks but I need dropbox for work. can someone help me resolve nautilus-dropbox dependency issues16:13
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TylertwoVivekananda, Can you give more details?16:14
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jony_easyriderhow can move mouse cursor on the second monitor in Ubuntu 12.04?16:20
scarleojony_easyrider, plug in another mouse16:22
streulmascarleo: lol16:22
scarleo:D16:22
jony_easyriderscarleo, it won't work16:22
scarleojony_easyrider, just drag the cursor to the other screen16:24
jony_easyriderscarleo, ty, it worked16:25
jony_easyriderscarleo, it is possible to set up a clone display?16:25
johndoe556hello16:26
charliebooting into linux from OSX on a flash drive, get GNU GRUB16:26
avi_hi16:26
charliehow do i get the GUI?16:26
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FergiG16:27
charlienew to linux.16:27
FergiL16:27
FergiA16:27
FergiM16:27
avi_r u thr16:27
FloodBot1Fergi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:27
FergiO16:27
FergiR16:27
charliehow do i get past GNU GRUB? sorry, new to linux16:28
jony_easyriderhow can I open a movie on the second monitor in Ubuntu 12.04?16:28
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cgtdkjony_easyrider: Are you having difficulty doing so?16:29
jony_easyrideryes16:29
cgtdkHow so?16:29
cgtdkCan you not drag windows between your monitors?16:29
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jony_easyriderhow can be done that?16:30
WafamdeWINDOWS IS BEST!!!16:30
irenicus09Ari-Yang: yo I think I successfully installed the driver :D16:30
PwrSurgetroll16:30
charlieI'm booting linux from a USB, can I how can i get to the GUI? thx16:30
faugusztinjony_easyrider: grab a window by the title, and move it16:30
cgtdkWell, I don't use Unity, but I assume one would just open a window and then drag it to the other monitor.16:30
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cgtdkjony_easyrider: How are your monitors set up?16:30
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Ari-Yangirenicus09: you think so?16:31
hitsujiTMOcharlie: it should boot straight to unity if its a live distro16:31
Ari-Yangirenicus09: that's good, go on ahead and reboot16:31
ajay_hi16:31
Ari-Yanggood luck16:31
irenicus09Ari-Yang: already did reboot16:31
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irenicus09haha16:31
jony_easyridermade it, ty16:31
Ari-Yangirenicus09: ah, what's the output of flgrxinfo ?16:31
ajay_would any one would like to help me out.. i m using this for the first time..16:32
jony_easyridercgtdk, it is possible to clone the second?16:32
irenicus09Ari-Yang: fglrxinfo16:32
irenicus09display: :0  screen: 016:32
irenicus09OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.16:32
irenicus09OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 8600/8700M16:32
irenicus09OpenGL version string: 4.3.12458 Compatibility Profile Context 13.20.1616:32
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FloodBot1irenicus09: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:32
irenicus09sry abt the flood :(16:32
cgtdkjony_easyrider: where do you want to clone it to?16:32
Ari-Yangirenicus09: yeah, that looks right16:33
charlieAll i'm getting is GNU GRUB version 1.99~rcl16:33
cgtdk(I have no idea)16:33
RiDlol unban wafamde16:33
RiDpoor guy16:33
charlieMinmal bash-like line editing is supported16:33
irenicus09Ari-Yang: ty16:33
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cgtdkjony_easyrider: It can probably be done using xrandr, but I don't know the specific command for doing so16:33
waramdemy name now16:33
* irenicus09 is feeling super happy today :)16:33
DJones!nickspam | waramde16:34
ubottuwaramde: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead. See also « /msg ubottu Guidelines »16:34
Ari-Yangirenicus09: alright, now test it out, play videos and games and what not and see how your desktop's performance is16:34
hitsujiTMOcharlie, looks like the usb wasnt made correctly, its unable to boot ubuntu16:34
irenicus09Ari-Yang: okay...what games on linux do u recommend16:34
charlieugh16:34
Ari-Yangirenicus09: ummmm I dunno..16:34
irenicus09k16:34
scarleojony_easyrider, if you have nvidia GPU I believe you can  set cloning in nvidia settings16:35
irenicus09I wanna try dota 2 on steam ;)16:35
hitsujiTMOcharlie: what did you use to make it?16:35
pfifoirenicus09: minecrack16:35
charlieHold on16:35
irenicus09Ari-Yang: for some reason I feel like my laptop has gotten a lot cooler16:36
hitsujiTMOirenicus09: portal 2 + half-life 2 are also good16:36
irenicus09Ari-Yang: before the driver installation it used to get so hot sometimes16:36
Ari-Yangirenicus09: that's because of dynamic power management16:36
irenicus09ya ;)16:36
HateYoFacei just sit around and play WoW16:36
RiDhmm i should give ubuntu another try16:37
cgtdkRiD: why?16:37
HateYoFaceyessir :)16:37
RiDcgtdk why not?16:37
hitsujiTMORiD, when was the last time you tried it?16:37
irenicus09hitsujiTMO: ok will try that bro :)16:37
pfifoRiD: well gladly take you back!16:37
cgtdkRiD: I assume you had a reason for using something else16:37
RiDa year or two ago... don't even remember what version it was16:37
abstractwhat are some good C programs for a beginner to try16:38
cgtdkabstract: Hello world16:38
abstractlol16:38
charliehitsuijTMO: on OSX I formatted it with MS-DOS (FAT) and then installed ubuntu 13.04 64-bit on the drive with Mac Linux USB Loader.16:38
ajay_@abstract find the largest of 316:38
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hitsujiTMOahh, i'm unfamiliar with any osx tools, just windows + ubuntu tools for generating live usbs16:39
RiDcgtdk unity was so slow on my laptop, jeesh :(16:39
pfifoabstract: open a file and display its contents16:39
cgtdkRiD: Try Xubuntu16:39
cgtdkRiD: Unity is awful16:39
ajay_how to get into gsoc..? I have prior knowledge of C, Java, ruby.?16:39
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charlieI see, I'l go look somewhere else, thx for the help anyways16:39
cgtdk!xubuntu | RiD16:40
ubottuRiD: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels16:40
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njsgRiD: 3d-accelerated window managers will be slow without proper 3d acceleration. if you don't need anything fancy, you can even try something like fluxbox for floating windows, or dwm or i3 for tiling window management16:41
cgtdki3 is excellent16:41
pfifoRiD: njsg: or just wait for MiR16:41
qwebirc66421hey there anybody knows a solution to moonlight on linux?16:41
cgtdki3 and a minimal install of Ubuntu is a nice combination16:41
loluajay_: #gsoc can help16:41
qwebirc66421it seems that the codecs installer is no longer supported16:41
ajay_lolu: i am using this for the first time. How to join #gsoc..?16:42
Marleneecan i make hidden folder and files in ubuntu using CLI16:42
loluajay_: type "/join #gsoc" withot quotes ofcourse16:42
cgtdkMarlenee: Yes: mkdir .hiddendirectory16:43
njsgpfifo: isn't "mir" something only with people who for some reason didn't want to collaborate with unity?16:43
auronandace!mir | njsg16:43
ubottunjsg: Mir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir16:43
njsgMarlenee: well, in UNIX and linux hidden files and directories are those starting with a .16:43
ajay_thanks for telling. I have joined though.16:43
njsgMarlenee: so just name them .something16:43
njsgMarlenee: many visual file managers will hide such files by default16:43
Marleneenjsg : i can see all files begin with "."16:44
Guest60993my pc is dual booting windows xp and ubuntu server and in the cli i randomly get things that come up16:44
Marleneenjsg : iam using only CLi to manage my files16:44
njsgMarlenee: if you do "ls" it will not show dot-files16:44
cgtdkMarlenee: what program are you using?16:44
Guest60993http://pastebin.com/KJtQB7FR16:44
Marleneenjsg : ls -la show all files16:45
njsgMarlenee: yeah, -a stands for all files16:45
Marleneethen that mean it not hidden16:45
cgtdkMarlenee: The -a switch shows hidden files16:45
njsgMarlenee: if you do ls -l you won't get these files16:45
qwebirc66421any ideAS ON the use of microsoft silverlight on linux????????16:45
pfifoGuest69055: I get that error often16:45
cgtdkMarlenee: the dot prefix convention is just a convention, the files aren't really hidden16:46
njsgqwebirc66421: seriously, don't. maybe wine or mono can help, but don't16:46
Marleneethis is not full hidden16:46
Ari-Yang!silverlight | qwebirc6642116:46
ubottuqwebirc66421: For Microsoft Silverlight support, install Moonlight with the following command: « sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla » in a terminal.16:46
njsgMarlenee: yeah, there is nothing such as fully hidden, I believe16:46
Ari-Yangqwebirc66421: but moonlight is dead16:46
loluplenty outside my window16:47
njsgMarlenee: perhaps with ACLs there is, but I have no idea about that16:47
DJones!moonlight | qwebirc66421 However last I saw, the project had been dropped and there were nolonger any download sources16:47
ubottuqwebirc66421 However last I saw, the project had been dropped and there were nolonger any download sources: For Microsoft Silverlight support, install Moonlight with the following command: « sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla » in a terminal.16:47
Marlenee!info acl16:47
ubottuacl (source: acl): Access control list utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.51-8ubuntu3 (raring), package size 41 kB, installed size 184 kB16:47
Marleneecan i use acl  from CLI16:47
njsgyes, how else would you use them? stuff usually started with cli utils16:48
PwrSurgeI removed some conflicting packages but i still can't upgrade16:48
pfifoMarlenee: hidden files are to help readability, if you want to make it so others cant read your file look into encryption16:48
njsgMarlenee: with the basic UNIX permissions, you can't really do hidden files other than dotfiles16:48
njsgMarlenee: but if this is for, say, apache, have a look into .htaccess16:48
njsgthere's almost likely a directive for that16:48
qwebirc66421indeed moonlight is no longer supported i thought maybe there is an alternative but it doesnt seem like it :S but thank you all16:49
PwrSurgeisn't there a way to force the upgrade and hope for the best?16:49
PwrSurgedon't want to reformat if possible16:49
fixmywifiplzwow16:49
pfifo!details | PwrSurge, your not getting help cause you havent explained your situation16:50
ubottuPwrSurge, your not getting help cause you havent explained your situation: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:50
PwrSurgeok16:50
esingH16:50
esingHi16:50
PwrSurgeI have Ubuntu Maverick 10.10 and want to upgrade16:50
pfifo!eol | PwrSurge16:51
ubottuPwrSurge: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:51
PwrSurgebut keep getting an error that it was not able to calculate dependencies16:51
PwrSurgeCould not calculate the upgrade16:52
PwrSurgeAn unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:16:52
PwrSurgeE:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.16:52
PwrSurgethat's what I get16:52
esingCan I install infinality also on Ubuntu 13.10?16:52
esingOn its launchpad page it says "This ppa now only keeps packages for LTS/last release (12.04/13.04)."16:52
PwrSurgealready read the EOL webpage16:52
PwrSurgeit just tells me that I have to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 first16:53
PwrSurgewhich i'm trying to do16:53
PwrSurgefrom Maverick to Natty16:53
ikoniaPwrSurge: have you pointed to the archived 10.10 repos ?16:53
PwrSurgeyes16:53
ikoniaPwrSurge: and is the system "up to date"16:53
PwrSurgeold-releases.ubuntu.com natty16:53
PwrSurgeyes, system up to date16:53
ikoniano, your repo is maverick16:53
ikoniayou don't set it to natt16:53
ikonianatty16:53
ikoniaprobably screwed up now16:54
PwrSurgeit is maverick but the updater changes them to natty automatically during the upgrade16:54
Iridium616Ubuntu sucks.16:54
Iridium616get over it16:54
kickroxlol16:54
ikoniaPwrSurge: it should only do that post upgrade16:54
Iridium616What?16:54
Iridium616It does?16:54
RiDwhat16:54
ikoniaIridium616: your doing this in ##linux #ubuntu ##windows ##c - give it a rest,16:55
ikoniaIridium616: it's clear your just trolling, I'm happy to give you a break if you grow up and participate in the channel normally16:55
SuperDefenderXHow stable is 13.10? I want to give it a shot.16:55
Ari-Yang!13.1016:55
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.16:55
ikoniaSuperDefenderX: why don't you just wait for the stable/final release16:55
SuperDefenderXHow stable is it in the RC build.16:56
ikoniaSuperDefenderX: if you can't work out "how stable it is" perhaps waiting for the stable build is wise16:56
Ari-Yangin just 4 days SuperDefenderX lol16:56
wiehanI have a high system load, though my CPU usage is low. I need help finding the cause of this. Can anyone please assist?16:56
SuperDefenderXwait!? lol Surely you jest?16:56
MyrttiSuperDefenderX: third Thursday of October, like it has been for years and years.16:56
Ari-Yangwiehan: what card? is this laptop or desktop?16:56
wiehanAri-Yang, desktop. Ubuntu 12.04.316:57
Ari-Yangwiehan: what card?...16:57
SuperDefenderXThat great and all, however.... It's not the question I asked.16:57
wiehanAri-Yang, network card?16:57
Ari-Yangwiehan: graphics...16:57
wiehanAri-Yang, onboard.. wait let me see16:57
SuperDefenderXbut, thanks for your input nonetheless. :)16:57
Ari-Yangwiehan: type this in terminal lspci | grep VGA16:58
ph1rmw4r3_-_test16:58
SuperDefenderXWorking.16:58
ph1rmw4r3_-_COOL!16:58
SuperDefenderXHello World! :)16:58
wiehanAri-Yang, Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)16:58
ph1rmw4r3_-_it really works16:58
Ari-Yangwiehan: perhaps if you're using open source drivers, switch to the proprietary driver?16:59
SkexinNow that I have sufficiently bounced my head off a wall and googled into the ground...I've come here in search of wisdom regarding a boot failure after 12.04 install....and now the system hangs if I try to boot to USB to try again with a different distro16:59
savagejenIt seems that after the latest update, I no longer have a mouse cursor, which is sort of understandable since I have a touch screen laptop... except that I also have a mouse.17:00
savagejenI am not sure if this was intentional or a malfunction on my device.17:00
ph1rmw4r3_-_ikonia17:00
wiehanAri-Yang, it is actually a headless server box.17:01
ikoniaph1rmw4r3_-_: what ?17:01
chrisf_!suggest Ubuntu 13.10 Review17:01
ubottuchrisf_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:01
pfifoSuperDefenderX: oct 10th was final freeze, Im installing as soon as I get home... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FinalFreeze17:02
Iridium616AMSGs are awesome!17:03
SkexinI managed to boot 12.04 after the initial install, but after a system update, the reboot hangs after "Checking battery state.....[ok]"17:03
AlexandreMBMHello! How to use DIY artworks (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing)?17:03
Iridium616Their only fault is the inability to filter some channels away -.-17:03
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AlexandreMBMThere are two pieces... "front" and "back".17:04
AlexandreMBMhow to paste them?17:04
PwrSurgeshould I try to remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage and try to see if this works?17:05
Skexin"/topic"17:05
belgianguyhi, atm I'm on 13.04 and kernel 3.8.0, is there a way to get newer kernels any faster?17:06
pfifo!mainline | belgianguy17:06
ubottubelgianguy: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds17:06
belgianguyI heard that 3.11 brings a lot of improvements to ATI power management (mine overheats)17:06
ikoniabelgianguy: why do you think your kernel is "slow"17:06
belgianguythanks pfifo17:06
ikoniabelgianguy: changing the kernel can have serious impact on your ubuntu hosts stability and our ability to support it17:07
belgianguyikonia: I meant "get them faster", as in sooner, not velocity17:07
ikoniaahhh17:07
belgianguyikonia: I know, it's a risk17:07
ikoniabelgianguy: thats fine then, you know where you are going17:07
belgianguyinstalling ATI drivers has ruined my X/Unity I don't know how many times17:07
freemindsWhen I try to set a new "nofile" limit in limits.conf by user, then my config is ignored. Only when I do it via * it is applied. Why is that?17:08
belgianguyso I'm used to cursing at myself and open up root shell17:08
esingI want to add this ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/no1wantdthisname/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages to ubuntu 13.10, but when I perform sudo apt-get update, I get this error: 404 Not Found17:08
dasmith91clear17:08
paulus68_1I want to share a network drive with other linux box however I get the error message "unable to mount location failed to mount windows share" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6232279/17:13
fixmywifiplzthe banhammer strikes again?17:14
fixmywifiplzikonia, do you ever think that you have gone a bit to power crazy with the whole op thing?17:16
daixtri'm trying to work on ubuntuone via command line,..where can i find this 'ulsdtool' ?17:16
Myrttifixmywifiplz: -b, not +b17:17
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ikoniafixmywifiplz: I suggest you actually "look" at what's going on before making these comments, I "removed" two bans17:17
fixmywifiplzoh my bad17:17
fixmywifiplzman your grouchy today17:17
ikoniafixmywifiplz: enough17:18
fixmywifiplz<3 dont ban me plz17:18
Myrttifixmywifiplz: just stick to the support?17:18
fixmywifiplzyes17:19
fixmywifiplzWould anyone like me to support them?17:20
paulus68_1I want to share a network drive with other linux box however I get the error message "unable to mount location failed to mount windows share" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6232279/17:21
paulus68_1working with 2 linux boxes and 1 windows17:21
fixmywifiplzwhat protocall are you useing17:21
fixmywifiplzhave you tryed samba17:21
fixmywifiplzor smb17:21
paulus68_1samba17:21
ikoniapaulus68_1: what ubuntu versions are the lnux machines ?17:21
ikonialinux17:21
paulus68_1ikonia both on 13.0417:22
ikoniapaulus68_1: are you manually trying to setup a samba share or using the ubuntu "share" tool /17:22
paulus68_1ikonia: never heard of the ubuntu share tool17:22
paulus68_1ikonia: was using samba17:22
ikoniapaulus68_1: so you're manually setting up a samba server, correct ?17:22
paulus68_1ikonia: yes on a desktop envirement ubuntu17:23
Schallauhm... how to execeute a command (conky) at login?17:23
ikoniapaulus68_1: perfect, what command are you using to mount the share17:23
daixtrwhy is u1sdtool needing x11 ?17:23
zykotick9daixtr: you might want to ask in #ubuntuone17:24
Schallanvm,17:24
paulus68_1ikonia: I just mentioned the shared location in my smb.conf and was refering to the folder /media/paul/MYBOOK1/personal to map the drive17:24
fixmywifiplzadd it to the bottom of your bash.rc file i think17:24
ikoniapaulus68_1: how are you trying to actually "mount" the shares though17:24
arunpyasihello guys I have a problem , please help me17:26
paulus68_1ikonia: these are 3 external drives so I should mention it in the fstab? and point them to the shared location? or am I getting cold here?17:26
ikoniapaulus68_1: I'm not sure why you are not answering the question I'm asking17:26
fixmywifiplzi may be able to help you17:26
ikoniapaulus68_1: "how are you trying to actually mount them",17:26
ikoniapaulus68_1: samba "shares" them - but you then have to mount them17:26
paulus68_1ikonia: that I didn't do17:27
ikoniapaulus68_1: so what gave you the error you mentioned at the start ?17:27
paulus68_1ikonia: at least not specified them in the fstab17:27
ikoniapaulus68_1: so what gave you the error you mentioned at the start ?17:27
arunpyasiI had install burg few minutes ago, but was very slow, I didn't like burg,now how to  restore my old and best grub?17:27
tgm4883paulus68_1: so what gave you the error you mentioned at the start ?17:27
fixmywifiplzapt-get install grub2   i think17:28
paulus68_1ikonia: I mentioned the shared drives in my smb.conf  restarted samba went to my linux went to network locations saw the shared drives and workgroup and found my 2 folders that I want to share selected personal and got the error provided abocve17:28
fixmywifiplzafter that i think you have to do  grub-update17:29
ikoniapaulus68_1: so that came from your windows machine ?17:29
_raven_script output waterfall: how to write lines to a txt file what never contains more than 10 lines and inserts on top (most recent on top)?17:29
paulus68_1ikonia: no linux17:29
FroggleIs it possible to use a Galaxy S3 as bootable USB in order to install Ubuntu on a desktop?17:29
ikoniapaulus68_1: I assume you have created the samba "guest" account,17:30
fixmywifiplzcan you format your phones storage as abootable device?17:30
ikoniapaulus68_1: I'd then try to manually mount the share to get a bit of a better set of debug/output17:30
FroggleI don't know17:31
fixmywifiplzi know that you could use your microsd card if said computer has a slot for it and can boot from it17:31
paulus68_1ikonia: no I didn't17:31
ikoniapaulus68_1: is there a guide / document you are following to do this ?17:31
paulus68_1ikonia: I was using this guide http://www.devtrends.com/index.php/configuring-samba-shares-in-ubuntu/17:32
fixmywifiplzFroggle: you would have to remove the sdcard from your phone and put it into your computer in other words17:33
ikoniapaulus68_1: straight away I can see that guide is very poor "sudo su" - terrible17:33
fixmywifiplzhow am i doing ikonia?17:34
ikoniapaulus68_1: and your example shares look nothing like the examples in the web page17:34
ikoniafixmywifiplz: I'm not sure why you are trying to provoke me, but please stop17:34
paulus68_1ikonia: ok do you have a better solution?17:34
paulus68_1ikonia: or better guide17:34
fixmywifiplzi am in no way shape or form trying to provoke you nor do i want to17:35
ikoniapaulus68_1: I'd look at the wiki (ubuntu wiki)17:35
slacko253281question: does anyone else running the latest virtualbox w/ ubuntu or debian guest know how to get the mini toolbar to display when the guest in full screen mode and 3d acceleration is enabled (gnome)17:35
paulus68_1ikonia: ok back to the drawing board17:37
fixmywifiplzikonia can you help me17:38
ikoniafixmywifiplz: what do you want?17:38
fixmywifiplzwell its not exactly ubuntu related but im trying to patch my kernel with a usb driver and i think im close but make gets an error17:39
DJonesfixmywifiplz: This channel only deals with Ubuntu support issues17:39
ikoniafixmywifiplz: you where told earlier you are not using ubuntu - so don't ask in this channel17:39
chemist^Hey there...does anyone know if there is a way to get pass those annoying surveys on certain websites with "free" downloads?? I'm trying to download a book (pdf)17:39
fixmywifiplzwhat if i put ubuntu on it17:40
ikoniachemist^: that is also nothing to do with ubuntu17:40
chemist^ikonia yes i know...but there is a lot of people here, maybe someone cares to help me out :)17:40
ikoniachemist^: they don't - we only deal with ubuntu issues in this channel17:40
chemist^ikonia ok sorry mom :)17:41
belgianguychemist^: asking for help with an illegal download in an OSS support channel, classy17:41
chemist^it's not illegal... wtf17:42
chemist^it's freeware...and the idiot wants to make money with surveys17:42
chemist^"freeware"17:42
k1l_chemist^: no need for being provokative. please stick to the guidelines in the #ubuntu channels. thanks17:42
cgtdkchemist^: Regardless, it is off topic17:42
chemist^well...anyway ... forget it :D17:42
cgtdk!offtopic | chemist^17:42
ubottuchemist^: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:42
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AlexandreMBMhow to use art works?17:43
_raven_i need a voice-autotune plugin (autotalent is not enough) what pulls the voice very clean to a note. sound is not important but the note needs to be exactly. ideas?17:46
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dcopei set up pptp vpn on ubuntu but nothing resolves. why?17:47
chemistIt was just a simple question people...no need to get all warmed up and ban me from the chan...17:47
chemistGet all offensive :) sry bout asking17:47
chemistBye now...get a girl or smth ;) to help u guys calm down17:48
chemistByebye17:48
Schallak1l_: Thanks.17:49
solvaqhi17:51
AlexandreMBMHi! How to use wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing wallets models?17:56
kmysthey does anybody know why chainloading a preseed file for mirror settings doesn't work? if the same settings are in the base preseed it works, but chainloading doesn't.17:59
chsadoswhere can i seek tutorials on building a live ubuntu thumb drive with 1 partition that stores files/programs17:59
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yeats!liveusb | chsados18:00
ubottuchsados: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:00
__ravenany tool to trigger midi notes by voice?18:00
hitsujiTMO___raven for such a question you might get a response in #ubuntu-studio18:05
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kmystah...nm, i figured it out.  seems one can only have one preseed/include statement and having multiples SETS them but only the last one is loaded18:07
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compdocwhen you move a window on the ubuntu desktop, it shows the window's content while dragging. can it be changed to show a frame being dragged instead?18:12
stegowhy exactly do you want this?18:13
jmgk.ver Nothing_Much18:13
jmgkhm18:13
gartralhey all, I have an odd issue, I had to reboot after a game crashed and now I can't log into my usual username, it just goes black then a second later takes me back to the lightdm login.. any ideas/advice?18:15
gartrali'm logged in via guest session and I'm able to ssh into my account via loopback18:16
Romancehow do i get only the data in non italic tag?18:16
Romance'adj</i> <b>1.</b> <i>eager, interested</i> (<i>to learn, know</i>) ingin tahu; (<i>foll by infin</i>) ingin (sekali): <i>children are by nature, ~,</i> memang sifat semula jadi kanak-kanak ingin tahu; <i>she was ~ to see what he looked like,</i> dia ingin sekali melihat rupa lelaki itu; <b>2.</b> <i>inquisitive, prying,</i> suka ambil tahu: <i>she is always ~ about her neighbours,</i> dia suka18:16
Romanceambil tahu ttg jirannya; <b>3.</b> <i>odd,</i> aneh: <i>a ~ thing happened,</i> suatu perkara yg aneh terjadi; <i>it is ~ how two very different people can live together,'18:16
FloodBot1Romance: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:16
Romanceah sorry18:16
Romanceand that is a wrong channel , lol18:17
MyrttiI thought so too :-P18:17
Romancebwahaha it supposed to be in python, my bad18:17
Marleneewhy crontab save cron file in /tmp/crontab.LhTWT4//crontab18:18
Marlenee*/tmp/crontab.LhTWT4/crontab18:18
kundalinihello broters! i would like to know a command to delete folders and sub folders in a directory but not the files18:18
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drmagookundalini, move the files first and then delete the folders ?18:20
compdocstego, was that question for me?18:20
kundaliniyes but there is to many folders that is why i m serching a command18:21
bwaynekundalini: you'll want to move the files within the folders to another location. 'find . -type f -exec mv {} . \;' then delete the folders with 'rm -r <dir>'18:22
geirhaMarlenee: So that after you've edited and saved, it can do a syntax check before overwriting the real crontab file18:22
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04is the nouveau driver considered stable?18:23
kundalinibwayne: thanks a lots18:23
bwaynekundalini: you're welcome. hope that worked for you use case.18:23
bwayne*your18:23
drmagookundalini, what does the folders contain ? Are there diffrent file-types or the same ?18:23
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04ive had my computer crash 3 times now with in the last 2 days, the issue is with Xorg18:24
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04but it had been doing fine for months with no issues18:25
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04where would i begin to see what the problem is18:25
RoryRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: /var/log/Xorg.*18:26
chsadosis it possible to create a live usb with full disk encryption with truecrypt - i.e. in order to load the live usb you have to put in the truecrypt password?18:27
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04and what would i look for exactly18:27
lukodiablohey guys.. someone can help me with setup wirelles card?18:27
bwayneRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: you can grep that file for 'EE', which indicates errors.18:27
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04he used* so which file18:28
bwayneRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: you can grep both using the *18:28
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04holy f*18:29
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Roy_Ubuntu_13-04can i paste bin this and someone look at it18:30
bwayneRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: of course. we can *try* to help.18:30
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04first thing that would make my have an idea is the 3rd line, but ill pastbin it all18:31
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04/var/log/Xorg.0.log:[    39.045] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)18:31
bwayneRoy_Ubuntu_13-04: I'm not familiar with this sort of issue. but others may be.18:32
hitsujiTMO_Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: if you're using Nouveau then you're not using nvidia module IIRC18:32
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04in the error report that the crach thing will send, an the bottom it mention nouveau18:33
elliott__Hello. can anyone help me with a problem?18:33
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04the desktop does have a nividia card18:34
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04nvidia18:34
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04!paste18:35
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:35
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04http://paste.ubuntu.com/6232596/18:35
hitsujiTMO_nouveau is the open driver for nvidia cards18:35
drmagooRoy_Ubuntu_13-04, is this a new install or did you upgrade from a previous version ?18:35
anon12How do I change the lock screen background image to something different than my desktop's background image on Ubuntu 12.04 (preferably a video/.gif file if it is possible)?18:36
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04it was a new install18:36
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04its been fine for months till here lately18:36
worstIs anyone here very familiar with setting up xorg.conf?18:37
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04not recently , but i have done a , sudo aptitude dist-upgrade , was that resopnsible18:37
worstI'm trying to get my multiple monitors to work using 2 different video drivers18:37
drmagooRoy_Ubuntu_13-04, have you tried 'dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current' ?18:37
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04will do that now ??18:38
anon12worst, switchable graphics is not very well supported in the linux kernel so you might be fighting an uphill battle to use the two cards18:38
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04should i sudo that?18:38
worstanon12: damn. That sucks.18:39
LinuxGuy2020How do I search the repos for a package that contains a specific file name?18:39
drmagooRoy_Ubuntu_13-04, yes, sudo it18:39
trismLinuxGuy2020: apt-file18:39
clikInstalling Ubuntu as a duel boot with win7. My HP laptop has 4 partitions. I need to delete a partition. Should I delete the "HP tools" partition or the "recovery" partition?18:39
worstanon12: On windows I can render using my graphics card with monitors plugged into the onboard18:39
toadshadowanyone have a fix for driver issues with the atheros 9k wireless series?18:39
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04dpkg-query: package 'nvidia-current' is not installed and no information is available18:39
anon12worst, some of the documentation on optimus and bumblebee should help you there was something about doing what you want that I read 8 months ago and forget where the webpage is now18:39
worstthe card does the heavy lifting but is provided a slot from the motherboard18:39
tigz4godAnyone here able to ansewr some questions about setting up some symlinks to asecondary harddrive18:40
worstanon12: this is a desktop18:40
toadshadowerror:  expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘rfkill_regulator_probe’18:40
worstanon12: I can get either video card working at one time but not both in extended desktop mode18:40
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04so install nvidia-current drmagoo?18:40
worsthttp://pastebin.com/V1snGGuX is my xorg.conf18:40
drmagooRoy_Ubuntu_13-04, yes.. but its is a bit tricky to do so... let me run you thru the steps...18:41
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04im me18:41
anon12worst, optimus works with a form of switchable graphics so the solution should to getting it to work for them should also apply to you18:41
worstis it switchable only?18:42
drmagooRoy_Ubuntu_13-04, you need to have the kernel-headers and build-essential package installed first18:42
worstI don't want /switchable/18:42
anon12ok18:42
worstI want to be able to drag a window across my monitors18:42
drmagooRoy_Ubuntu_13-04, the you install the nvidia-drivers18:42
Roy_Ubuntu_13-04just list hte commands for me18:42
worstSomeone said they were positive it was possible yesterday18:42
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LinuxGuy2020trism: Does apt-file work even if the package the file is contained in is not yet installed?18:43
trismLinuxGuy2020: yes18:44
_Messiah_my /dev/md2 is full, i understand this is a raid issue right18:45
Marleneewhat is the default path for crontab -e18:45
_Messiah_don't know what to do?18:46
lukodiablohey guys.. someone can help me with setup wirelles card? I'll be very happy18:46
drmagoolukodiablo, what is the problem ? please give us some more information...18:47
tigz4godwhats terminal command to access another hard drive (aka sda)18:47
worstwell18:48
Rorytigz4god: mount18:48
worsttigz4god18:48
worstdoes it need to be mounted?18:48
Rory!mount | tigz4god18:48
ubottutigz4god: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount18:48
worsttigz4got lsblk to see what's there and on what mount points18:48
_Messiah_My raid is pretty much messed up i think, i need to get my stuff working soon i don't know what to do can anyone help please?  http://pastie.org/private/b96qfedicta7lgxejaddta for more info18:48
anon12How do I change the lock screen background image to something different than my desktop's background image on Ubuntu 12.04 (preferably a video/.gif file if it is possible)?18:49
tigz4godThanks18:49
tigz4godtrying to make a sym link via terminal >.>18:49
lukodiablodrmagoo... i need help with setup 37573STA driver I've follow the procedure backtrack forum step by spet bud stil doesnt work18:50
rypervenche_Messiah_: cat /proc/mdstat18:50
worsttigz4god: ln -s /whatever/file   /somewhereelse/link18:50
_Messiah_rypervenche, http://pastie.org/private/bfvgy9v3pvtyhmrhsm9fya, i have 2 500gb harddrives and 1 ssd18:51
rypervenche_Messiah_: Run a fsck on the said /dev/md#18:52
lukodiablodrmagoo teh chipset is 3573sta18:52
_Messiah_rypervenche, not sure which one i'm supposed to run it on, 1 i presume?18:52
frojndHi there. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop and I'm wondering how to disable super (Window) key in ubuntu? Everything is default. The reason I'm asking is when I press super key I see numbers on left menu. I DON'T want this. How do I disable this?18:52
rypervenche_Messiah_: Your RAID devices are fine. It's probably a file system problem.18:52
rypervenche_Messiah_: Which one are you having problems with?18:53
_Messiah_rypervenche, i'm not entirely sure i think it could be the ssd18:53
rypervenche_Messiah_: And what mount point is /dev/md1?18:53
_Messiah_3rd should be ssd, first 2 should be raid 0 or 1 not sure18:53
rypervencheMessenger_bird: What does "grep md1 /etc/fstab" give you?18:54
drmagoolukodiablo, this channel is for ubuntu, go and ask for help in #backtrack-linux18:54
_Messiah_sorry rypervenche, http://pastie.org/private/itixv1nzbtdq67cjnkrcia /drive should be the ssd18:54
_Messiah_so ssd is fine.18:54
rypervenche_Messiah_: Oh, your root partition is full btw.18:55
_Messiah_Yeah i deleted files and nothings working18:55
rypervenche_Messiah_: Well first run that grep command I gave you.18:55
lukodiablodrdragoo the software is runing onder ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS18:55
rypervenche_Messiah_: or simlpy cat out your /etc/fstab, that would be better.18:55
_Messiah_whichever one is simple or effective rypervenche i just need it functional as soon as possible18:56
rypervenche_Messiah_: cat /etc/fstab18:57
_Messiah_so i asume the harddrives are mirrored and the second one is full18:57
garrettsallisono18:57
garrettsallisonhello18:57
_Messiah_http://pastie.org/private/jfnkmzhv3pl7plgexwta18:57
_Messiah_rypervenche ^18:58
hitsujiTMO_!eol | lukodiablo18:58
ubottulukodiablo: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:58
hitsujiTMO_10.04 is eol lukodiablo18:58
rypervenche_Messiah_: Ok, let's go into PM. md1 is your swap, so that's fine. Your problem is the 100% used space.18:59
frojndbaaah18:59
frojndC'mon how to disable window/super key shortcut in Ubuntu 12.04 (everything default)18:59
lukodiabloUBUNTU 10.04 is eol ?? but when fun lsb_release -d i get Description:Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS19:02
Ca11umDoes anybody know of a Ubuntu equivalent of ASG-Remoe Desktop 2012 (visionapp)? Basically it allows you to create a tree structure of RDP connections and connect to them in tabs19:02
Ponch0Hey guys I just installed ubuntu and my network does not work at ALL, although during installation I'm able to connect to wifi and update no problem, but afterwards neither wifi nor the ethernet work.19:03
__ravendo you know of any integrated audio metering tool similar to the "rtw tm9" for example?19:04
hitsujiTMO_lukodiablo LTS does not mean forever, 10.04 support has ended19:05
loahello, if here somebody who playes dota 2 under linux?19:05
loaunder ubuntu *19:06
loaI have strange problem, i think when i run dota sometimes my pc hangs so badly...19:06
lukodiablohitsujiTMO_: okay :D19:06
loai can't even do anything, all just hangs, can only poweroff my pc using long hold of power button19:06
lukodiablowhen i run apt-get install network-manager i get.... E: Couldn't find package network-namager19:07
k1l_lukodiablo: see the typo in packages name19:07
bekkslukodiablo: Then look at your typo :)19:08
lukodiablosolve :) thanx !!19:09
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worstSo anyone have any idea how to setup a multi-monitor setup across 2 video cards?19:10
hitsujiTMO_worst have you tried #xorg ?19:11
worsthitsujiTMO_: No I've not19:12
worstI'll do that, thanks for the tip19:12
worsthttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=V1snGGuX is my xorg.conf19:12
Ponch0when I type sudo ifup eth0 or sudo ifup wlan0 I get "ignoring unknwon interface wlan0=wlan0" same thing for eth0, what's wrong with the network interface?19:13
gregor3005hi, when i make a screenshot i have the option to host it on zimagez. i created a account and all work perfect until i make new screenshots. it asked me every time for the password. can i safe it in any way?19:13
gregor3005Ponch0: now i deleted all object and i get this: www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2013-10-13-211209.php19:14
peepsalotmy laptop just started requiring me to enter my password twice to unlock the screen.  one of the times it shows a different desktop background image that i don't remember ever setting.19:14
peepsalotany ideas what could cause this19:14
gregor3005Ponch0: is it possible to get a list of all objects?19:14
gregor3005sry wrong channel, LOL19:15
gregor3005Ponch0: sorry19:15
Ponch0its ok19:15
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FesterJesterWhich glade package should I use in Ubuntu 10.04?19:23
darkeyessomeone help me19:23
cgtdk!details | darkeyes19:23
ubottudarkeyes: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:23
tigz4godwith?19:23
BluesKaj!eol | FesterJester19:24
ubottuFesterJester: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:24
auronandaceFesterJester: 10.04 is only supported on server now19:24
darkeyesok cgtdk19:24
malkfacemy gcc doesn't seem to accept -l arguments before -o arguments19:25
FesterJesterYes, I understand that, but I wish to continue using it anyway19:25
likemikeHi19:25
malkfacewhich seems to break a lot of Makefiles19:25
malkfacehow to fix19:25
likemikeI am new to this. Why should i start using linux ?19:25
auronandaceFesterJester: then you can't get support here19:25
FesterJester@auronandace: where may I then?19:26
[Gentoo]likemike: because its good19:26
auronandaceFesterJester: not here19:26
malkfaceor doesn't anyone know how to get voice in #gcc19:26
malkface*does19:26
likemikewhy is it good ? i mean what does it offer to me ?19:27
Myrttimalkface: you need to register to nickserv19:27
malkfaceright duh thanks19:27
Myrttimalkface: they mute unidentified users.19:27
auronandacelikemike: what are you looking for?19:27
FesterJesterDoes anyone know where to get assistance with Ubuntu 10.04 desktop?19:27
CalinouFesterJester: it is not supported -- please upgrade, you won't regret it :)19:27
[Gentoo]likemike: this is more of a thing you'd google19:27
Calinouat least 12.0419:27
Calinouonly server edition is supported19:28
[Gentoo]likemike: as there's so much19:28
Calinouuntil april 201519:28
MyrttiFesterJester: it's a quite telling sign when Ubuntu and Canonical don't support it beyond helping you to upgrade it.19:28
bekksFesterJester: Nowhere, since it isnt supported since April 2013 anymore. The server version still is supported.19:28
tigz4godlol19:28
FesterJesterI can not stand the unity desktop and will not use it19:28
tigz4godbut...he wnats to use it19:28
darkeyesI am trying to access a different computer with remote desktopp but I recieve a message saying that my desktop is only reachable over the local network, I want to access the computer via internet but since that I have a private IP and an external one, the connection is refused19:28
MyrttiFesterJester: then use Xubuntu or Lubuntu, or Ubuntu Gnome, or Kubuntu even.19:28
likemike[Gentoo]:I did google but i can't find a reason why it's better lets say comparing to Solaris or BSD19:28
bekksdarkeyes: Then you have to configure portforwardings in your router.19:29
BluesKajFesterJester. no need to use unity , gnome shell , cinnamon19:29
[Gentoo]likemike: just try it and see19:29
FesterJester@BluesKaj: why?19:29
RandomUsrlikemike, try this - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+should+I+use+Linux19:29
[Gentoo]if youl ike  it or not19:29
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darkeyesbekks: The thing is that I don't have a router, I don't have control of the external IP19:30
BluesKajFesterJester. whynot :)19:30
bekksdarkeyes: Using a router, you dont have control about the external IP, either.19:30
likemike[Gentoo]: i am installing it in vbox19:30
RandomUsrIs it just me, or is it kind of difficult to determine why someone else would like Linux19:30
likemikeit's quite slow and unresponsive19:30
bekksdarkeyes: However, you have to create portforwardings.19:30
likemikethe gui is so terrible that it makes me to vomit19:30
[Gentoo]likemike: good idea, it's better to try it yourself19:30
[Gentoo]likemike: theres loads of guis19:31
FesterJesterOk, let me try this then. Which glade package should I use for Ubuntu-Gnome 13.04?19:31
darkeyesbeks: I search on google and did something with ssh19:31
RandomUsrlikemike, if you have a functional issue with the GUI you're using, people here are willing to help19:31
likemikeRandomUsr: i don't have a functional issue it's just does not look good for me19:32
hitsujiTMO_likemike: then use one that does19:32
RandomUsrlikemike, if you'd like to be stylish, then perhaps you should visit the mall?19:32
likemikeWell i see there is Unity and KDE19:32
[Gentoo]when unity and windows 8 first came out like 99% of people hated the gui now people deal with it19:32
tigz4godis there a simple way to put a diffrent background on each monitor for duel monitors?19:33
darkeyesbekks: What is exactly port forwarding19:33
RandomUsr!unity | likemike19:33
ubottulikemike: Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity19:33
RandomUsr!KDE | likemike19:33
ubottulikemike: KDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.19:33
likemikebut both does not look very good19:33
_Trullomy problem with windows 8 is that I never see my desktops19:33
likemikedont't*19:33
[Gentoo]likemike: what type are you after? a classic xp style windows look?19:33
bekksdarkeyes: a mechanism that will allow someone to access a port on your external IP to be forwarded to a port on an internal IP.19:33
likemike[Gentoo]: unified design, skeumorphism19:34
* [Gentoo] googles that word19:34
RoryWhy does it take a few minutes, or a restart, for newly installed applications to become searchable in the Dash?19:34
RandomUsrlikemike, have you search wikipedia for a listing of desktop environments? There are quite a few19:34
FesterJester@likemike: take a look at this http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives19:35
darkeyesbekks: yes but doesn't that external IP used for many other users?19:35
RandomUsrlikemike, you could also view demonstrations on youtube to determine which DE looks pretty and cool19:35
[Gentoo]darkeyes: thats why you use different ports19:35
FesterJester@likemike: these are the officially supported desktop environments Ubuntu supports19:35
likemikeRandomUsr: yes i that was the first thing i did19:35
cvtsxhi19:36
likemikeAnd one more thing...do i need to update all my applications at once ?19:36
cvtsxno19:36
cvtsxyou do not19:36
darkeyesGentoo: But how do I know that the port I'll choose is not in use19:36
[Gentoo]darkeyes: check with nmap / netstat etc19:36
[Gentoo]if you dont know19:36
likemikedarkeyes: telnet 0 <port>19:37
subz3r0netstat -tulpen19:37
RandomUsrlikemike, perhaps you should view Nixie Pixel's linux videos, she is very hot girl and makes good linux video19:37
likemikei am also bothered about security19:38
likemikeshould i be ?19:38
[Gentoo]not really19:38
darkeyesGentoo: so how do I forward a port19:38
[Gentoo]are you coming from windows?19:38
likemikeyes19:38
amir_hi all19:39
subz3r0!iptables | darkeyes19:39
ubottudarkeyes: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo19:39
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RandomUsroh boy19:39
Guest83589any body here know python ?19:39
subz3r0yes, its a snake19:39
[Gentoo]its different, in terms of viruses on windows you download programs from wherever on the web on linux you normally use a package manager19:39
RandomUsrlmao beat me to it19:39
hitsujiTMO_Guest83589: yes, but have you tried #python ?19:39
likemikewhat if the repositories ar compromised ?19:39
likemikeare*19:40
subz3r0some kind of...19:40
RandomUsrlikemike, I'm going to try to humor you for a moment, what are you trying to accomplish?19:40
Pop-TartHiya! I've got Ubuntu 13.04 x86 on a CD. I want to downgrade to 12.04 LTS. Would you recommend installing 13.04 and trying to downgrade or using Wubi for it? I want it to pure Ubuntu and get rid of Windows.19:40
subz3r0likemike: please continue this conversation in the offtopic channel. thanks19:40
FesterJester@likemike: What if windows updates is compromised?19:41
likemikeRandomUsr: i am trying to get answers if it's any benefical for me to switch to linux19:41
subz3r0FesterJester: ...19:41
likemikeFesterJester: then i can sue MS !19:41
bazhang!ot | likemike19:41
ubottulikemike: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:41
[Gentoo]likemike: youll find all this stuff on google, things like security etc are way too broad for irc19:41
FesterJester@likemike: actually no you cant19:41
bazhangPop-Tart, you mean dvd?19:41
lukodiablosomeone cvan help me with setup the usb WLAN 3573STA ?19:42
RandomUsrlikemike, each OS has it's ups and downs and this isn't something anyone can answer for you19:42
likemikeok lets move to offtopic19:42
Pop-TartYeah, I've got it on a DVD. I don't have any spare DVDs to burn 12.04 LTS though.19:42
darkeyesSo in order to forward a port I will need to know the IP of the computer that will try to connect to mine19:42
bazhanglukodiablo, what version of ubuntu19:42
RandomUsrhas anyone here seen Stallman's comments on Ubuntu?  (specifically Youtube?)19:43
hitsujiTMO_Pop-Tart: if you have a usb you can also install from that19:43
bazhangPop-Tart, best to just install over with 12.04, preserving home, and skip Wubi19:43
[Gentoo]RandomUsr: yes19:43
cgtdkRandomUsr: yes19:44
bazhangRandomUsr, no, thats offtopic here19:44
RandomUsrGentoo, what was your take on it?19:44
Pop-TartTechnically, I could, but I don't exactly have modern hardware. I can't boot from USB.19:44
RandomUsroops lol19:44
cgtdk!offtopic | RandomUsr19:44
ubottuRandomUsr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:44
bazhangPop-Tart, okay well preserve home, use a dvd, and avoid wubi19:44
darkeyesGentoo: Can you please explain me the process how to access remote computer that has an external IP, I am just so confused19:44
_Messiah_thank you for your help rypervenche! been really helpfull19:45
rypervenche_Messiah_: No problem :)19:45
Pop-TartThat's just it, I can't boot from USB and I don't have a spare DVD.19:45
bazhangPop-Tart, whats preventing you from getting some19:45
Pop-TartThe drive to town is a three hours away.19:46
Pop-TartCouldn't I just use Wubi to install the LTS, use Gparted to delete the Windows partition and use update-grub?19:47
MyrttiPop-Tart: no.19:47
Pop-Tartor is that a bad idea?19:47
subz3r0re19:47
Myrttibaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea.19:47
subz3r0got any answer to my question while i was gone?19:47
subz3r0"on grub... what would grub (3,2) mean? grub starts with 0. so it would be /dev/sdd3, right? :>"19:47
rypervenchePop-Tart: Wubi is not a real installation.19:47
Pop-TartOh, I see.19:47
Myrttiyou couldn't even do it19:47
Myrttias wubi installs Ubuntu into a filesystem inside a file inside the Windows partition19:48
subz3r0!grub | subz3r019:48
ubottusubz3r0, please see my private message19:48
Myrttior something very close to that effect19:48
Pop-Tartoh19:48
subz3r0no idea? any1? :>19:48
Myrttiand so in the end, if the Windows partition goes pearshaped, you wouldn't have any tools to sort that filesystem19:48
worstsubz3r0: what's the question?19:49
Pop-Tartdang19:49
subz3r0"on grub... what would grub (3,2) mean? grub starts with 0. so it would be /dev/sdd3, right? :>"19:49
Pop-TartSo just use 13.04 and keep it updated19:49
worstI (believe) but am not certain19:49
MyrttiPop-Tart: and for this particular reason even the creators of Wubi don't recommend it beyond demoing it to people for few weeks at max19:49
worstthat it would be sdc219:49
Ponch0hey guys I'm having issues with internet on my new ubuntu installation, I get "FATAL: module RTL8723AE not found."19:50
worstwell19:50
Myrttiif it's meant to be a permanent solution, then some other method of installation should be used.19:50
worst3 since it would have 0 as well19:50
subz3r0worst: will do my lpi tomorrow.  only thing i wasnt sure about. so thats why im asking19:50
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darkeyesHow do I forward a port19:50
* zykotick9 thinks VirtualBox is a better solution then Wubi...19:50
worstdarkeyes: you would ahve to do it from your router's configuration apge19:51
MArathello guys,can you help me, I'm looking for a good program for ubuntu to mount algorithms, you know some?19:51
subz3r0worst: 0 = a, 1 = b, 2 = c, 3 = d. but not sure if its the same for the partitions19:51
Pop-TartIt's been a few years since I've used Ubuntu, so could you do me a favor and remind me? If I installed 13.04 would the update manager give a notification telling me to upgrade to 13.10? The install isn't specifically for me, it's for a few-tech illiterates in my family, that's why I wanted the LTS version.19:51
subz3r0Pop-Tart: yes19:52
darkeyesworst: I don't have a router, the thing is that I want to connect another computer with remote desktop, but I have two IP external and private19:52
MyrttiPop-Tart: yes it would, because 13.04 isn't LTS19:52
Pop-TartOr would I have to do sudo do-release-upgrade19:52
Pop-TartAlright, thanks19:52
subz3r0Anyways... I would recommend using the LTS all the time19:52
MArathello guys,can you help me, I'm looking for a good program for ubuntu to mount algorithms, you know some?19:52
worstdarkeyes: You connect directly your modem?19:52
Pop-TartSorry about that, I realize I could've worded my sentences better, so sorry for any confusion.19:53
darkeyesworst: That's correct19:53
worstdarkeyes: then you shouldn't have to do more than allowing the program you need access through your firewall19:53
worstdarkeyes: you can use this to confirm if your port is properly opened19:54
worsthttp://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/19:54
darkeyesworst: which port do I check19:54
worstdarkeyes: that's entirely dependent on what you're planning on hosting19:54
worstdarkeyes: vnc defautls to 5900 so you could try that if you're doing remote desktop19:55
darkeyesworst: I am tring to use vnc, port 5900 and it says that the port is closed, the external IP is 190.56.254.19719:55
worstdarkeyes: Do you happen to have a firewall of some sort runnign?19:56
darkeyesworst: well I think that no because I am new in linux19:56
darkeyesworst: when I run ifconfig I have a different IP19:57
worstdarkeyes: what is that IP?19:57
darkeyesworst: 10.135.244.119:58
worstdarkeyes: that is a private IP. Most modems don't give you those. It sounds like it may be what's filtering your net19:59
worstdarkeyes: enter the IP of your modem in a browser19:59
darkeyesworst: unable to connect20:00
blackdogg'day all - having a bit of trouble with a raring->saucy upgrade. do-release-upgrade tells me it couldn't calculate the upgrade, and /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log has this: 2013-10-14 06:57:06,757 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'The package 'unity' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist.'20:00
worstdarkeyes: hm, not too sure unfortionately20:00
blackdogunity is installed already, not sure why it's being marked for removal (though i don't use it) - any ideas on where i could investigate further?20:01
wilee-nileeblackdog, You have any ppa's?20:01
blackdogwilee-nilee: yes20:01
blackdogwilee-nilee: move them out of the way and try again?20:01
hitsujiTMO_!saucy | blackdog20:02
ubottublackdog: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.20:02
darkeyesworst: I heard something about port forwarding with ssh20:02
blackdoghitsujiTMO_: ah, cheers.20:02
worstdarkeyes: yes, that's called a ssh tunnel20:02
Marleneehow i Setting up two SSH server ssh daemon instances20:02
wilee-nileeblackdog, I woould use the ubgrade manager go to software sources and set it for any upgrade it will turn off the ppa's you may have modified a bit to much and may need to back some of those ppa's with ppa-purge, just a bgvuess though.20:02
RandomUsrcan someone tell me if the Terminals at Ctrl + F1 through F6 have different run levels?20:02
worstdarkeyes: but you would still need an open port somewhere.20:02
blackdogwilee-nilee: cheers, i'll try that.20:03
worstdarkeyes: either on your or the computer that you're trying to connect to20:03
RandomUsrI mean Ctrl + Alt + F key20:03
wilee-nileeblackdog, sorry for the spelling there, does that make sense.20:03
darkeyesworst: so there is no way I can connect to a computer with that external IP20:03
darkeyesworst: Is the ISP the responsable for that?20:04
worstdarkeyes: I would think \there must be a way for you to open the ports, unfortionately though I'm not really sure how20:04
darkeyesworst: An static IP would give me control of that right?20:05
hitsujiTMO_RandomUsr: what exactly do you mean by runlevel? i'm not sure if you're talking about ubuntu run levels given your context20:05
worstdarkeyes: Not certainly. A static IP is just a set IP that doesn't change20:05
worstdarkeyes: the ports could still be closed the same as any dynamic IP20:06
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TylertwoRandomUsr, Afaik they're the same20:06
StiwyCyaoo a tutti!!20:06
darkeyesworst: So even though I use an Static IP, I might be using and external IP to connect to the Internet20:06
subz3r0wilee-nilee: maybe you could confirm that grub legacy starts with zero? Like Grub (3,2) is /dev/sdd3?20:06
worstdarkeyes: Perhaps you can call your ISP just to ask if they block you or not?20:07
darkeyesworst: well I am using a modem from I phone company20:07
worstdarkeyes: what's the company?20:09
RandomUsrhitsujiTMO: I was wondering if using say, Ctrl + Alt + Any F key would change your runlevel or can that only be accomplished at boot?20:09
darkeyesworst: Claro20:09
liquidmetalI have an ubuntu server. I consistently see <5% cpu usage. I'm thinking of running more servers on this machine to improve performance of my website20:09
liquidmetalwould that be a good idea?20:09
worstdarkeyes: they don't block your port, I just looked it up20:10
worstdarkeyes: so the issue is local20:10
TylertwoRandomUsr, check out http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/83336/relationship-among-runlevels-and-virtual-terminals-tty20:10
hitsujiTMO_RandomUsr: ubuntu only has 1 runlevel for userspace: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel#Ubuntu20:10
darkeyesworst: how did you figure that out20:10
worstdarkeyes: I googled their name and "port blocking"20:10
worstthey only block a few ports20:11
darkeyesworst: so port 5900 is blocked because in http://www.yougetsignal.com is saying that20:12
worstdarkeyes: yes, but it sounds liek it's being blocked by your modem or computer rather than your ISP20:12
darkeyesworst: do you know how to unblock it20:13
RandomUsrTylertwo: then could I change runlevels while the OS is running?20:13
worstdarkeyes: I don't really know :/20:13
worstdarkeyes: sorry20:13
bazhang!runlevels | RandomUsr20:13
ubottuRandomUsr: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.20:13
bazhang!portforward | darkeyes20:14
ubottudarkeyes: For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall20:14
darkeyesworst: It's ok, so a port forwarding is just a way to access my private IP using an external one correct20:14
TylertwoRandomUsr, I'm not sure.20:14
RandomUsrbazhang: I'm confused, how is that a good thing?20:14
darkeyesubottu: thaks!20:15
darkeyesbazhang: Have you do that before20:15
Stiwyce qualke italiana20:16
hitsujiTMO_RandomUsr, to change the runlevel is to change the state of the OS. 0 is halt(shutdown), 1 is single user mode (root tasks only run), 2 is user mode, 3 -5 are not used, 6 is reboot20:16
bazhangStiwy, #ubuntu-it20:16
bazhangdarkeyes, check that website20:17
worstDoes anyone know what I should put into xorg to use the intel vaapi drivers?20:17
worstI just need the driver name20:17
darkeyesbazhang: ok20:17
RandomUsrhitsujiTMO: are there not times when it would be helpful to change runlevels? and why are 3 - 5 not used?20:17
darkeyesOk I am leaving, thanks for the help, good afternoon>20:18
RandomUsrAlso, when I switch to any tty specifically, my Ten key doesn't seem to work correctly. Is there a way to validate this config or setup my keyboard for the console?20:20
hitsujiTMO_RandomUsr: not sure why, thats a decision that you'd have to ask the upstart team20:21
RandomUsrAh20:21
mydog2morn...20:23
RandomUsrWell that's interesting, why does the Unity desktop disappear when disabling Expo?20:23
mydog2question regarding the mv command... as well as the tar command20:23
RandomUsrAnd if I use unity --reset, Unity returns...20:24
mydog2if you have a process writing to a file.. and you do a sys mv/tar will the mv tar give a warning, or exclude the file if it's being written to by another process.. or is there a way to exclude files in use when tarring/mving.. can't find anything in the docs regarding this20:24
mydog2thanks20:24
vixxohi guys, does anyone know if the "Online Account" integration with owncloud available on gnome shell 3.8 is also available on Unity ?20:24
RandomUsris it possible to keep unity and use the desktop cube with Expo disabled?20:24
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jon8This is an error that I get http://gyazo.com/4894a16f7a1a1f8f88a457a3b2c4ff28 when trying to edit a file via WinSCP after following this tutorial http://tinyurl.com/kuqmuny -- Any thoughts?20:25
RandomUsrchecking good old google for this one20:26
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benishorHi all. I upgraded today from 13.04 to 13.10 and ran into the following issue: I have a simple opengl + freeglut3 program that compiles just fine, but at runtime yields:  Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-version.c: 224: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!20:28
benishorcan anybody help me out with this please?20:28
benishorit seems to be triggered by having glut linked20:29
cgtdkbenishor: #ubuntu+120:29
vixxohi guys, does anyone know if the "Online Account" integration with owncloud available on gnome shell 3.8 is also available on Unity ?20:29
benishor10x cgtdk20:29
cgtdkbenishor: what does that mean?20:29
benishorcgtdk: 10x = thank you20:29
cgtdkI see. You're welcome.20:29
ramonekaj sad20:30
krabadorhi , i need to delete the lxpanel on lubuntu 13.0420:31
KeyboardNotFoundI have one orange circle in right top angle, when I click it I see message "There are 2 updates available", but when I click Show updates I see message "software on this computer is up to date..."20:31
KeyboardNotFoundCan I fix it ?20:31
RandomUsrhitsujiTMO_ : wow, this whole time there's never been any issues with my Proprietary Nvidia driver... It's been a problems with CCSM and unity not liking my settings20:32
steefhy?20:33
RandomUsrsincerley considering a return to fedora...20:33
cgtdkRandomUsr: or you could continue to use Ubuntu but with something other than Unity20:34
Calinouyes20:34
Calinoualso CCSM can cause a lot of issues if badly used20:34
RandomUsrcgtdk: i suppose so20:34
Calinoureally, a lot.20:34
RandomUsris Unity built and use with Gnome, or it's own DE?20:35
cgtdkRandomUsr: Unity is a compiz plugin20:35
cgtdkiirc20:35
cgtdkit does use GTK20:35
cgtdkalso iirc20:35
RandomUsriirc?20:35
Calinouif I recall correctly20:35
cgtdk"if I remember correctly"20:35
cgtdkyeah20:35
cgtdkrecall20:36
Calinouin the same sort: AFAIK: as far as I know20:36
eseits ok if in sudoers file i set username ALL NOPASSWD /path/to/sudo ?20:36
RandomUsrI think I just want to get rid of unity20:36
cgtdkCalinou: afaik is slightly sifferent20:36
Calinouwhy? :P20:36
wilee-nileeese, bad idea20:36
cgtdkRandomUsr: There are many options. Gnome, Xfce, etc.20:36
Calinouyeah, xfce is great20:36
wilee-nilee!sudo | ese20:36
ubottuese: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo20:36
esebut only username will have the NOPASSWD DEAL20:36
RandomUsrcftdk: I thought Gnome was already installed?20:37
cgtdkRandomUsr: Not Gnome shell20:37
esewilee-nilee,  i dont want sudo to askme a passwd no more20:37
cgtdkthe libraries are, but they hardly constitute a DE20:37
cgtdksome of them anyway, I don't know the details20:37
wilee-nileeese, then use a OS that runs that way, we don't support that here.20:37
RandomUsrcftdk: I don't understand? Not gnome shell?20:38
esewilee-nilee, but i love ubuntu, its the passwd deal to sudo me whats is annoying20:38
cgtdkRandomUsr: Gnome shell is the standard Gnome interface since GNOME 320:38
cgtdkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Shell20:39
RandomUsrguess i haven't been paying decent attention20:39
RandomUsrIf I uninstall unity, what am I left with?20:39
cgtdkRandomUsr: there is also some kind of fallback mode that is more like the old Gnome20:40
RandomUsrGnome Shell?20:40
cgtdkRandomUsr: no, you have to install that20:40
RandomUsroh20:40
krabadorplease help20:40
krabadori need to leave lxpanel on my lubuntu session20:40
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RandomUsrok what's the difference between Unity 2d panel? Unity 2d? and Unity 2d shell?20:41
cgtdkUnity 2D is a fallback mode I think20:42
hitsujiTMO_RandomUsr: unity2d does not actually exist anymore, its a dummy package20:42
sudo_hey guys20:43
ReactoW: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 13.04 _Raring Ringtail_ - Release amd64 (20130424)/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs20:45
ReactoWhile running apt-get update, what does this mean?20:46
krabadori deleted the @lxpanel on /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart but nothing20:46
Reactonvm, fixed it20:47
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sudo_can I install Ubuntu Touch on any device which has CyanogenMOD installed?20:48
bazhangsudo_, #ubuntu-touch20:48
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sudo_tank you bazhang20:49
sudo_*thank20:49
ReactoIf I have Win8 and Ubuntu dualbooted and want to upgrade to the 13.10 beta, do I have to do anything so grub doesnt bug when I install 13.10+20:50
Reacto?*20:50
Reactoor does the installer fix it by itself20:50
worstreacto: you're all good20:51
jon8No one can help? this is an error that I get http://gyazo.com/4894a16f7a1a1f8f88a457a3b2c4ff28 when trying to edit a file via WinSCP after following this tutorial http://tinyurl.com/kuqmuny -- Any thoughts? Please help20:51
Reactok20:51
worstjust install the update, your loader will be fine20:51
worstjon8: what kind of access do you have?20:53
Wugworst: the insufficient kind probably.20:53
tasslehoffI tried setting "UseDNS no" in my sshd_config, and can't login to my server anymore. Anything to do besides connecting keyboard and monitor?20:53
worsttasslehoff: is the box pingable?20:54
jon8worst, i have root on the server.. but i'm using a user account and i followed the tutorial to set the account up using that tutorial to access /var/www correctly..20:54
scrubcan someone explain to me what "init.d" actually does? <--- noob over here20:54
tasslehoffworst: yes20:54
Wugjon8: can you post the ls -l of /var/www20:55
Wugscrub: it's the old way of starting programs at specific runlevels20:55
worsttasslehoff and what happens when you try to ssh in?20:55
jon8Wug, yes20:55
Wugin laymans terms, it's for starting programs when you boot or shutdown the computer20:55
worsttasslehoff: Does it give you a login prompt or does it just not connect at all?20:55
Wugfor new things, you should use upstart instead, though the old init.d system does still function.20:56
jon8Wug, http://pastebin.com/j9PZGJKX20:56
tasslehoffworst: connection refused on port 22, so I suspect maybe I had a typo in the ssh config20:56
Wugjon8: I don't see header.php in there. where is that file/20:57
scrubwhat are the commands to interface with "upstart", i dont know the new syntax involved, ive been in the army for so long its effectively rotted my brain20:57
worsttasslehoff: if it's refusing connection there's not much I could see you being able to do20:57
Wugalso, can you grab the permissions of the directory itself too?20:57
worsttasslehoff you'll have to hook in I'd think20:57
jon8Wug, its under a subdirectory.. one second ill give a pastebin of that as well.20:57
tasslehoffworst: suspected so, but just wanted to check. thanks20:57
Wugscrub: runlevels are not something I have a memorized explanation of20:58
worsttasslehoff: no problem, best of luck20:58
jon8Wug, http://pastebin.com/w1iJT0yu20:58
Wugbut there are officially 6 of them20:58
worst<worst> I'm trying to setup multiple monitors across my onboard intel chip and my 797020:58
worst<worst> I configured it the best I could, but the monitor on the intel doesn't function properly if the others are there20:58
worst<worst> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=V1snGGuX20:58
Wugcorresponding to different parts of the life cycle of the operating system session on the computer20:58
Wugrunlevel 5 I think is "everything is started and running", and most of the things you do when you use the computer are in runlevel 520:59
Wugearlier runlevels happen as part of the boot process, and runlevel 6 happens as part of the shutdown process.  I think.20:59
scrubhmm interesting20:59
krabadorhelp20:59
krabadori need to delete the lxpanel on lubunut21:00
bekksUsing upstart, there arent runlevels anymore, as they had been before.21:00
krabadori deleted the @lxpanel on /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart but nothing21:00
jon8Wug, http://pastebin.com/w1iJT0yu is where header.php is located21:00
Wugjon8: I think you can probably safely ignore that error21:00
Wugyou can't change the permissions of the file unless you're the owner21:01
RemsSshi everybody21:01
jon8Wug, the error is safely ignored, and the file does write to disk.. but i'm trying to get rid of the error so the client doesn't report it. i can't find the option the client i'm using talks about to ignore it..21:01
Wug(or superuser)21:01
jon8Wug, it's a vm install of Lubuntu on my home machine.. i can change anything if it will help..21:01
jon8Wug, i'm about to change all of /var/www/* to be owned by my user account?21:01
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Wughave you looked into the "ignore permissions error" setting on winscp?21:02
scrubso how does the file structure work? if programs are running somewhere between 1 and 4, where does the "home" folder kick in? it isnt a constantly running process so i assume it has nothing to do with init.d. i know in windows it starts with c:\. in linux does it start with /etc/?21:02
RandomUsris anyone here using 4 monitors along with the Nvidia drivers?21:02
jon8Wug, I've looked over the entire WinSCP client and cannot find that option like it mentions in the dialog error box..21:02
Wugjon8: http://winscp.net/eng/docs/ui_transfer_custom#upload_options21:03
Wugscrub: I don't remember that much about it, but it's a thoroughly documented topic21:03
Wugyou should be able to google "how do I use init.d" or something like that and get a bunch of useful results21:03
Wugmaybe also try man init.d21:04
Wugthe man page is called something else, hold on while I find it21:04
bekks!upstart | scrub21:04
ubottuscrub: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/21:04
bekksscrub: upstart is the way to go nowadays.21:04
Wuglooks like it21:05
Wugit's man init. but bekks is right, use upstart if you're making something new.21:06
jon8Wug, I got it. Finally found a "Perserve Timestamp" option buried very deep in WinSCPs preferences dialog tree. Thanks sir.21:06
Caddhi21:08
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Guest21388i am new here21:08
scrubyeah sorry, i realize how potentially inconsiderate it may seem to people that im asking such obvious questions in a chatroom instead of googling them (or duckduckgo'ing) myself. But the answer i seem to stumble upon are incoherent, old or... just incoherent. i apologize.21:09
Guest21388someone help me21:10
Guest21388not usefull i think21:10
jmgk~help21:10
bekksGuest21388: you have to ask a specific question before someone being able to help you :)21:11
jmgkhm21:11
devil__and it best be a debian related question :)21:12
bazhang!fhs | scrub21:12
ubottuscrub: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier21:12
bazhangdevil__, you mean ubuntu21:12
Guest21388ok so basically we don't know here anyone21:12
galamarHello everyone. Is there a room for ZevenOS?21:12
bazhangGuest21388, did you have an ubuntu support question?21:13
bazhang!alis | galamar21:13
ubottugalamar: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*21:13
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devil__bazhang: ups, wrong channel :)21:13
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Guest21388not exactly but this is a new thing for me IRC chat , & its little bit less user friendly21:15
bazhangGuest21388, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat, here for ubuntu support21:16
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Guest123thank you for the support21:17
James_EppI kinda need a crash course on file association fixing. I installed a program, keepassx. It uses the extension .kdbx. I had to manually set the files this program uses to .kdbx by default. Now, all files without extensions want to open with the keepassx program. This is very frustrating as I cannot open other files without manually doing so with gedit. How can I set these associations differently than with nautilus?21:18
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hylianhello all21:21
James_Epp......curious, this bug only occurs in the SFTP connection I have to another machine. I guess I'll just edit the files on my local directories and copy them to the other machine when complete.21:21
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misternumberonehello21:22
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misternumberoneis anyone here21:23
James_Eppmisternumberone: Many people are here :)21:23
misternumberoneright now21:23
misternumberoneok21:23
misternumberonedoes anybody want to solve a problem?21:24
James_Eppmisternumberone: !ask21:24
James_Epp!ask21:24
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:24
sporkeeemisternumberone: this is support not chat if you have an issue state it.21:24
misternumberoneok21:24
misternumberone!ask21:24
misternumberoneok21:25
monkwitdafunkHi #ubuntu, where can i find the firefox plugins included with ubuntu12.04.2 for another distro?21:26
RagingAny VM Dudes in here please i need help21:27
sporkeeemonkwitdafunk: what plugins?21:27
monkwitdafunkI can only find flash, quicktime, windows media and divx21:27
bekksRaging: Then ask a specific question21:27
hitsujiTMORaging, ask the question21:27
sporkeeemonkwitdafunk: be specific.21:28
crimsonmaneis this channel the best to use for ubuntu-server assistance?21:29
hitsujiTMO#ubuntu-server could be better21:29
k1l_crimsonmane: you could ask here or in #ubuntu-server21:29
hitsujiTMObut you can ask here too21:29
monkwitdafunkFlash, quicktime, windows media and divx are included in ubuntu but cannot be found as a package or tarball for other distros21:29
crimsonmanety k1l_21:29
k1l_MonkeyDust: this is ubuntu support. to get those mentioned plugins for other distros please ask the specific distro support21:30
k1l_monkwitdafunk: ^21:30
bazhang!vm | Raging21:31
ubottuRaging: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications21:31
worstmonkwitdafunk: I'll message you21:32
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Nellukso ive got a VPS that runs Ubuntu, and i want to set up a good development environment for it on my OSX laptop. trying to figure out the best way to go21:35
hitsujiTMONelluk: that would be dependant on what exactly you're developing21:35
Nelluki dont know if i should install Ubuntu on a VM, or just get the OSX tools set up similarly as the VPS, or SSH in21:35
Nelluka project in PHP+MySQL+Symfony2 framework21:36
Nellukso far ive been SSHing it but it has plenty of disadvantages21:36
blackdogis there a way to sync an iphone with a music app on ubuntu 12.10? I know it's not ideal, just checking in to see if wine is still the answer.21:37
hitsujiTMONelluk what ide/editor do you use?21:37
ikoniawine is never the answer21:37
misternumberoneUsing clean install of vanilla ubuntu 13.04 (kernel 3.8) on an Acer AO751H (Atom Z520, GMA 500, 1GB DDR2), graphical performance is abysmal; the desktop itself seems to run under 5FPS. The forums are no help, as the solutions are for 12.04 and don't seem to work. I understand the GMA500 is intrinsically flawed, but I wanted to use 13.04 on it.21:38
blackdogikonia: :) it's rarely a _good_ answer, but i burned a day on this a few months ago.21:38
NellukhitsujiTMO: right now it is Coda on the Mac but I am looking at moving to PhpStorm because of its Symfony support21:38
ikoniablackdog: wine is never the answer21:38
blackdogikonia: got a better one, then?21:39
hitsujiTMONelluk: unfortunately I'm not familiar with either, but most have an option to specify a build script, which you could write to auto upload everything over sftp in a single keystroke ...21:39
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ikoniablackdog: use windows or a mac with itunes21:40
blackdogNelluk: one option is using sshfs.21:40
NellukhitsujiTMO: yeah PhpStorm has the ability to upload files to the server automatically, but to really take advantage of the debugging and code completion capabilities i need it to be editing a local Symfony project with php and apache configured the same was as they are on the VPS21:40
blackdogikonia: yeah, that's not an option. I can't afford the weight of carrying two computers just to sync a phone.21:40
blackdoglooks like it's either wine+itunes or virtualbox+windows+itunes21:41
Nellukblackdog: I think PhpStorm does not recommend that because it doesnt like when its access to 'local' files is laggy21:41
blackdogNelluk: is there a reason you can't run your tests locally?21:42
blackdogthen deploy to the VPS in a more controlled way?21:42
Nellukblackdog: well, that is one of the options i am considering, but it would mean that i'd have to update mysql and php and apache on my Mac and get all the dependencies set up so they are identical to the VPS, not sure if that is the best way to go. sandboxing it kind of makes sense to me21:43
Nellukwould connecting via VNC make sense?21:43
hitsujiTMONelluk, if i were you i would wither setup a VM with running your dev environment or else run a local amp stack, and match the configs with that of your server21:43
bekksNelluk: No. VNC isnt secure at all.21:43
Nellukok bekks good to know21:44
NellukhitsujiTMO: yeah OK. those are the two options I had in my head and just didnt want to start going down that path and then find out i was missing an obvious better solution21:44
Nellukthanks21:45
blackdogNelluk: if you need it to be exactly the same (which is definitely a good idea), i'd recommend looking into something like ansible, chef or puppet as a way to get it set up.21:45
Nellukwow ive never heard of any of those. checking them out21:46
Nellukwhat about Vagrant?21:46
blackdogthat way you can regard the VM as disposable, because your code is in github (or wherever), and you have a recipe for building a dev env.21:46
blackdogvagrant is a way of managing VMs - you can use ansible with vagrant. Your needs are probably not massive, and just vagrant by itself could do the trick - you'd have to be able to run some sort of script to set everything up, though.21:47
blackdogso if you know what you have on the VPS, perhaps choose a vagrant image to match that, and just keep your setup in a shell script? depends what you're comfortable with really.21:47
blackdogdeveloping on a remote VPS is always going to be a bit painful, basically.21:48
Nellukas opposed to what? just using your own system stack and pushing commits?21:49
galamarOkay so over in the zevenos channel there doesn't seem to be anybody active (only 2 ppl) any chance I can get help here? I am almost positive it will be an ubuntu solution.21:51
loahow i can place icon for nauntilus? I have "Dropbox" folder and want place it near folders like "Downloads" or "My Documents"21:52
galamarWhat I have is a graphics issue. I would like to use two monitors, I have two graphics cards both work fine on there own but I can't seem to get them both going at once. My onboard card is Nvidia, the second card is PCI but I am not sure of the vendor. I have installed the official Nvidia drivers from their website. It is working fine. Pretty sure that I need to add something to my xorg.conf file so it will define screen 1 j21:56
galamarust as it does for screen 0 though I am not sure what to add?21:56
usr13I'm about to give up on this, but will give it one last shot.  I've gotten this laptop with 11.10 and have tried to do distribution upgrade to 12.04.3 but it ran into filesystem errors, I ran fsck and fixed 'em, but now it's stuck with Errors were encountered while processing: ... See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233455/21:57
OerHeksloa add a bookmark, edit one in bookmarks and point to /home/<you>/Dropbox > http://askubuntu.com/questions/198675/dropbox-add-to-computer-menu-in-nautilus21:57
Roryusr13: Do you use any PPAs? They can break upgrades.22:00
raubWhat would make network manager not get the domain name from the dhcp server22:00
usr13I don't know, let's see:22:02
bluechaoshello guys I want to upgrade my ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.10 or higher22:02
Rorybluechaos: You can only upgrade from one version to the next. And 10.10 is EOL22:02
Rorybluechaos: The best thing to do would probably be to make a backup of your /home/<username> directory, do a fresh install, and then copy it back22:03
sophie_Is there any difference between the x.04 and x.10 versions apart from position in the release cycle? By this I mean, does each version focus on different things like feature introduction and then polishing of features?22:04
bluechaoscan u help me to do that , i'm newbie !22:04
jrib!lts | sophie_22:05
ubottusophie_: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)22:05
jribsophie_: LTS releases have a different focus; other releases are the same22:05
bluechaosRory,22:06
bluechaoscan u help me to do that , i'm newbie !22:06
sophie_Ah okay, so for example if somebody wants a system with maximum stability, it's best for them to use an LTS version22:06
jribsophie_: I don't know what you mean by "stability"22:06
sophie_I guess I mean support, not stability22:07
Rorybluechaos: No problem. Open a file manager and browse to the folder "/home" - copy the folder that is your username to an external drive or some other partition22:07
jribsophie_: all of ubuntu's releases are stable in the sense that they only get security updates and major bug fixes once the release is made.  LTS has longer support.  If you don't want to upgrade every 6 months, then go with LTS22:07
sophie_jrib,  oh I see, so people do generally upgrade at least annually if they aren't using LTS?22:08
wilee-nileebluechaos, If you are feeling up for it and want you can separate home to a partition, do a fresh install and use that home. In the future your upgrades will use that home if run to do so. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving.22:08
jribsophie_: the non-lts releases are supported only for 9 months now22:08
bluechaosRory,  done22:08
Rorybluechaos: That was very quick, you must have not very many personal files or large videos etc22:09
bluechaosRory,  I just install this old version from cd !22:09
bluechaosI don`t have any personal files inside pc22:09
Rorybluechaos: Why did you install such an old version? Where did you even find a download for 10.10?22:09
bluechaosbecouse this I have only !22:10
usr13http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233506/22:10
usr13(sources.list)22:10
Rorybluechaos: Go download the latest LTS version (12.04) from ubuntu.com, or the latest version 13.0422:10
sophie_My number 1 desire is that Canonical have a change of heart and allow the launcher bar to be orientated to the bottom.22:10
Rory!eol | 10.10 is end of life bluechaos22:10
ubottu10.10 is end of life bluechaos: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:10
usr13I looked sources.list over at the beginning and decided to comment out the two "backports" lines.22:11
bluechaosI already donwloaded that one 13.04 I have it on donwloads22:11
dinosaurvskittenwhat could cause a very high amount of "Invalid misc" in iwconfig? I've been getting horrible speed over wifi, even though the link quality is in the 60-70 / 70 range. Same problem with other routers. Works fine if I boot back into macos instead of ubuntu.22:11
bluechaossaucy-dvd-amd64.iso22:11
Rorybluechaos: That version is pre-release22:12
dinosaurvskittenby high I mean like 23000022:12
Rorybluechaos: Download a supported version from www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop22:12
Rorybluechaos: Where are you finding these weird versions from?22:12
wilee-nileesophie_, There are a number of apps that can make a nice panel there.22:13
bluechaoshttp://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/22:13
Rorybluechaos: Download a supported version from www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop22:13
Rorybluechaos: Burn it to a DVD, or make a LiveUSB using a flash drive, and install it the same way you installed 10.1022:14
bluechaoswait five minutes please22:14
sophie_I couldn't find any that were responsive to my liking22:14
The_Acid_Toyhow do i find out why my gui is crashing on login22:14
Rorybluechaos: I need to leave now.22:14
bluechaosI just started to donwload this http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/22:14
Rorybluechaos: Download a supported version from www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop22:14
krabadori need to delete the lxpanel on lubuntu22:15
krabadori deleted the @lxpanel on /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart but nothing22:15
Rorybluechaos: Is that URL not working for you? Are you getting an error?22:15
krabadorwhat can i do?22:15
bluechaosis a desktop version !22:15
Rory!lubuntu | krabador22:15
ubottukrabador: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.22:15
bluechaosdone I donwloaded it22:15
krabadorRory, nobody are response me in hours22:15
krabadorthat's the reason i'm here22:15
bluechaosubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso22:16
bluechaosI have it on donwloads22:16
hitsujiTMOThe_Acid_Toy: /var/log/Xorg.0.log might be a good start22:16
bluechaosRory,  u still there ?22:16
bluechaosRory, ......22:18
bluechaos................................................................................................22:19
hitsujiTMObluechaos: be patient22:19
bluechaosok hitsujiTMO22:19
bluechaoshitsujiTMO can u say to me official channel of unbuntu  (romanian language)22:22
hitsujiTMO!ro | bluechaos22:22
ubottubluechaos: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro22:22
marlonbrando78I no longer have sound on my Ubuntu 13.04 system, no sound indicator and no sound devices listed in sound. Pls help22:24
hitsujiTMOmarlonbrando78: laptop or pc?22:25
marlonbrando78PC22:25
jonathanBishello22:25
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bluechaoshey22:25
jonathanBishttps://plus.google.com/photos/111233169625659823900/albums/5780354173655076209?banner=pwa possible with ubuntu ?22:25
hitsujiTMOmarlonbrando78: what is the output of: lspci22:25
marlonbrando78what cmd do I run in the terminal to give you that info?22:26
hitsujiTMOlspci    is the command22:26
wilee-nileejonathanBis, way beyond support.22:27
SchallajonathanBis: Always possible.22:28
marlonbrando78marlon@marlon ~ $ lspci22:28
marlonbrando7800:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS480/RS482/RS485 Host Bridge (rev 10)22:28
marlonbrando7800:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS480 PCI-X Root Port22:28
marlonbrando7800:11.0 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)22:28
marlonbrando7800:12.0 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)22:28
FloodBot1marlonbrando78: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:28
marlonbrando7800:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)22:28
hitsujiTMOmarlonbrando78: please use paste.ubuntu.com22:28
wilee-nilee!pastebin | marlonbrando7822:28
ubottumarlonbrando78: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:28
lrcaballeroHello everyone, if I install Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 2, is this like installing the upcoming 13.10 realease of Ubuntu?22:28
wilee-nilee!13.10 | lrcaballero22:29
ubottulrcaballero: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.22:29
jonathanBisSchalla, ?22:29
SchallaYou asked if it's possible22:29
marlonbrando78Ok sorry, been ages since I used IRC22:29
Schallasure it is.22:29
jonathanBisSchalla, the leds compatible with ubuntu?22:29
krabadorhow can i kill lxpanel at startup?22:30
krabadori tried to delete on autostart but nothing22:30
marlonbrando78<hitsujiTMO> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233585/22:30
bluechaosRory,22:30
krabadorcan i try to kill it at startup?22:30
bluechaosare u there?22:30
hitsujiTMOmarlonbrando78 well your hardware is still there22:31
marlonbrando78<hitsujiTMO> Yes, I checked it in alsamixer22:32
SchallajonathanBis: ....?22:32
wilee-nileekrabador, http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXPanel22:32
marlonbrando78<hitsujiTMO> I tried removing alsa pulse audio, reinstalling it, upgrading kernel. To no avail22:33
hitsujiTMOim not 100% sure tbh, hold on and someone else might chime in22:34
marlonbrando78<hitsujiTMO> I get various DPKG errors when using apt22:34
marlonbrando78<hitsujiTMO> not sure if that has anything to do with it.22:34
hitsujiTMOwhat errors exactly?22:34
wilee-nileekrabador, IN general lubuntu and lxde due to their light nature are config file manipulations, rather than a gui.22:34
marlonbrando78<hitsujiTMO> was setting up QJackctl, wineasio and Kxstudio when this all happened. Not sure what broke it.22:35
marlonbrando78Will send errors now22:35
hitsujiTMOmay have been a confict22:35
loaOerHeks, i have not got such menu in nautilus22:35
hitsujiTMOalso can you give the output of: dpkg --get-gelections22:36
GrishnachHey guys Ive had a bit of an issue Installing a Server version of Ubuntu onto my laptop via a usb, Can someone please help me out. Sorry if this is not the correct way to go about things. Im new here22:36
hitsujiTMO!details | Grishnach22:37
ubottuGrishnach: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:37
marlonbrando78<hitsujiTMO> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233616/22:37
daniel_can anyone help me with a JSON file?22:39
daniel_I know this has nothing to do with Ubuntu but I need a brainiac to help me.22:39
hitsujiTMOmarlonbrando78: those errors defo could be related, please get output of: dpkg --get-selections22:40
hitsujiTMOdaniel_: json file for what exactly?22:40
hdonhi all :) what version of grub is in ubuntu? i have version 0.97. the grub manual at gnu.org seems to be for version 2.00~rc1. why is grub so old in ubuntu?22:40
daniel_hitsujiTMO I'm trying to make a chrome web app for Google Voice22:41
wilee-nileedaniel_, Try ##linux22:41
hitsujiTMOdaniel_: that has nothing to do with ubuntu22:41
daniel_wilee-nilee thank you22:41
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marlonbrando78<hitsujiTMO> will send it to you shortly22:41
wilee-nilee!tab | marlonbrando7822:42
ubottumarlonbrando78: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:42
GrishnachOkay I have usedthe Universial usb installer program from pendrivelinux.com to make a bootable usb2.0 flash dish running the Ubuntu 13.04 server version. I booted my laptop from the flash disk and the installer asks me for a language so i select English and push enter. It then gives me an Ubuntu screen with a list of options- Install ubuntu server, check disc for defects, test memory ect- so i select install ubuntu se22:43
Grishnachrver and press enter I get asked for my location so i select united kingdom and then get to a keyboard selection screen so i select my keyboard. Then a message box pops up saying that it is scanning for hardwar.   I then get a pop up saying 'Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that the CD-ROM was not in the drive. If so can you insert it and try again. Retry mounting the CD-ROM?   <Yes> o22:43
Grishnachr <no>       I think i have to mount my usb stick as the cd rom but i have no idea how to do it. Can you help me please ?22:43
FloodBot1Grishnach: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:43
hitsujiTMOmarlonbrando78: you can also use pastebinit to make it easier:     dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit22:43
wilee-nileeGrishnach, Check the sum of the iso.22:44
PwrSurgefinally upgrade  from 10.10 to 11.04 is working22:44
marlonbrando78<hitsujiTMO> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233637/22:44
PwrSurgehad to uninstall openoffice and some other packages due to conflicts22:45
GrishnachHow do i check the sum of an iso ?22:45
LexAChi guys!! any portuguese here?22:45
wilee-nileemarlonbrando78, YOu can tab complete nicks, I'm not sure the user gets notified in that way.22:45
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wilee-nilee!md5sum | Grishnach22:45
ubottuGrishnach: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows22:45
Dr_Willisit up to the users client to notify them or not.22:45
hitsujiTMOmarlonbrando78: that was only a partial list can you install pastebinit and type: dpkg --getselction | pastebinit22:45
hitsujiTMOmarlonbrando78: dpkg --get-selection | pastebinit     sorry22:46
VivekanandaI cannot find fonts like Arial and Times new roman in libre office writer in ubuntu12.0422:46
usr13Anyone willing to help with package management problem? See:  http://pastebin.ca/246643422:46
Vivekanandado I have to install these or wre they supposed to be present22:46
GrishnachThe only place where i can use commands is by backing out and selecting the 'Execute a shell' option. I used the !md5sum command there and had this returned '/bin/sh:!md5sum: not found22:47
wilee-nileePwrSurge, you are still two upgrades from support.22:47
hitsujiTMOVivekananda: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer22:47
James_EppHey guys. I'm in the process of trying to boot the ubuntu live discs over a network using nfs-kernel-server. Under my /etc/exports I have the following, however when clients boot they continue to give the error message "mount: Protocol not supported". What should I troubleshoot? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233647/22:47
wilee-nileeGrishnach, The md5sum would be used in a OS22:48
VivekanandahitsujiTMO: after that how do I make sure the fonts are installed ?22:48
Vivekanandais there a place I can check besides22:48
GrishnachI cant get into the Os, this is my first ubuntu install.22:48
deepyI have a 14GB USB stick with a few partitions using in total 2GB of space, can I somehow get this over to my 4GB partition?22:48
Vivekanandalibre office22:48
marlonbrando78hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/vaJK4xX322:48
wilee-nileedeepy, Any of them OS, or just data?22:49
deepyIt's an OS install yeah22:49
deepyext4 iirc22:49
hitsujiTMOVivekananda: font viewer   in the search22:49
wilee-nileedeepy, THis a live install, and if so what?22:49
jared_Hello22:50
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deepyI'm trying to move my USB stick install onto my harddrive22:50
wilee-nileedeepy, ext4 would be full install what is it?22:50
PwrSurgewilee-nilee: i know :/22:50
deepyone stick is ubuntu, one is chromium OS22:50
deepywhich admittedly is a bit silly to transfer in this way22:50
VivekanandahitsujiTMO: no font viewer in unity search22:51
Guest99538Hello22:51
Vivekanandaall I get is22:51
PwrSurgetried for over a year to do this upgrade22:51
wilee-nileePwrSurge, You can separate the home to a partition and just do a install of a support and use that home.22:51
Vivekanandauniversal access22:51
PwrSurgefinally got it to work22:51
usr13Well, I guess it's curtains forthis install.  I don't see any way to fix it, (there's no CD drive and won't boot to USB).22:51
Guest99538Can someone help me klewafbjkasevfckJSCDJEVFHSKCBlEFBGSK.VB/LVbl/sibfkasvb/lBK/lv22:51
Dr_Willislooks like he got attacked by his cat-on-the-keyboard  ;)22:52
Vivekanandaso then font anyone22:53
Vivekanandadont have font viewer22:53
Dr_Willisi recall a gnome-font viewer app in the repos.22:53
wilee-nileedeepy, shrink the partitions to fit then copy paste from gaparted or clone them, I assume you have a oot loader set up figured out.22:53
deepywilee-nilee: so I need to copy each partition manually? I can't just copy all that's no unused?22:55
wilee-nileedeepy, There are any number of ways to do this, I gave you two options, bigger to smaller is the issue as far as a straight clone is all in some apps.22:56
wilee-nileedeepy, Sounds like you have two OS as well you need two partitions to use them as OS's22:58
wilee-nileeyou can't put ubuntu and chromium on the same partition22:59
Dr_Willisthis is a live install on a usb you want to clone to a hard drive?23:00
wilee-nileefull installs they say23:00
mydog2hey - afternoon23:00
Dr_Willisif theres nothing on the hard drive he 'could' try using dd to image the usb to the hd. then boot the hd and use gparted to resize partions23:01
Dr_Willisive done that with a simple full install to a 8gb usb flash once. but it just had one partion.23:01
mydog2trying to do a grep on a string that has >>foo\?abc << how the heck can i do the grep?23:01
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mydog2doing grep -i "foo\?abc" dog.dat doesn't work..23:01
Dr_Willismydog2:  single quotes can 'escape' patterns, or use the escape \ character23:01
wyldemydog2: quotes "string"23:01
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, The explanation is devoid of pertinent info really, it would help to have some details23:02
Dr_Williswilee-nilee:  bah! then its too easy23:02
wilee-nileelol, I know. ;)23:02
Jordan_Uhdon: Ubuntu hasn't shipped with 0.97 by default in many years, that's grub legacy. My guess is that you accidentally installed grub legacy (which is in the "grub" package). You want the grub-pc, or grub-efi* packages for grub2 (which is again what is installed by default).23:02
Dr_Willis!info grub23:03
ubottugrub (source: grub): GRand Unified Bootloader (Legacy version). In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-29ubuntu66 (raring), package size 322 kB, installed size 856 kB23:03
hdonjordan, ahh, thanks!23:03
amuva__Since  upgrade to Android 4.3 my Ubuntu can not detect my phone. MTP file system was detected with Android 4.2. Anyone has same problem?23:03
Dr_Willis!info grub-pc23:03
ubottugrub-pc (source: grub2): GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS version). In component main, is optional. Version 2.00-13ubuntu3 (raring), package size 165 kB, installed size 545 kB (Only available for any-i386; any-amd64; any-powerpc; any-ppc64; any-sparc; any-mipsel; any-ia64)23:03
mydog2doing grep -i 'foo\?abc' dog.dat doesn't work..23:03
kingnick42hey. I tried the unstable libre office ppa, didn't like it. Used sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*, then removed the ppa23:03
Dr_Willis!ppa-purge23:03
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html23:03
mydog2neither does doing grep -i 'foo\\?abc' dog.dat23:03
kingnick42trying to install libreoffice now says I have unmet dependencies, any ideas?23:03
Jordan_Umydog2: What is the line in dog.dat that you expect it to match?23:03
Dr_Willisamuva__:  personally i dont even use a cable connection like that any more. I use 'airdroid' on android to transfer files  across with wireless connection23:04
hdonJordan_U, i'm using ubuntu 12.04. the grub-pc package does not contain anything for /bin or /usr/bin. which package will give me grub(1) and grub-install(1) ?23:04
Dr_Willisamuva__:  there are some updated mta/gvfs stuff ive seen mentioned at the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites that Might fix the issue.23:04
mydog2jordan, -->> /slug/gserver/sdata/Weber_Weber-Booklist.html\?curDept\=42126\&curCourse\=15816  <<23:04
somekinghi guys, does anyone knows why phpmyadmin is not working on 13.10. I can install it but it doesn't appear on the menu and i can open it via terminal.23:04
Dr_Willis!find grub-install23:05
ubottuFile grub-install found in debian-installer, grub, grub2-common, lupin-support, ubiquity23:05
Jordan_Uhdon: There is no "grub" command, grub-install is provided by grub-common, but to actually install grub for a BIOS based system you need to install grub-pc (which will bring in grub-common as a dependancy).23:05
hitsujiTMOkingnick42: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue23:06
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Jordan_Umydog2: There is no 'foo' or 'abc' in that line, so of course it won't match.23:06
hdonJordan_U, ah you're right. thanks for the help. sorry for my stupidity!23:06
Marleneeanyone use dropbear sshd before ???23:06
amuva__Dr_Willis: I need to use cable because I want to flash Android and install Ubuntu Touch23:06
chosenone729hello23:06
Jordan_Uhdon: Np, it's a common mistake :)23:06
mydog2jordan,  - it wasn't intended to be litteral...23:06
mydog2what i'm trying to do is get a grep to match the string i posted23:07
kingnick42hitsujiTMO, Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l23:07
Jordan_Umydog2: Please give the literal command that you're running, and the literal string you expect it to match.23:07
amuva__Dr_Willis: I guest I have to use Windows to do that.23:07
iTitouHi ! I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 (3.12rc4), and I have trouble with the display backlight on my Sony Vaio Pro. It' shut down, and I can't figure how to activate it.23:07
mydog2grep -i "/slug/gserver/sdata/Weber_Weber-Booklist.html\?curDept\=42126\&curCourse\=15816" cat.dat23:07
chosenone729?23:07
mydog2grep is blowing on the "\?"23:07
iTitoux23:08
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Jordan_Umydog2: grep -i '/slug/gserver/sdata/Weber_Weber-Booklist.html\?curDept\=42126\&curCourse\=15816' cat.dat23:08
mydog2jordan,  - single quotes make no diff23:08
Jordan_Umydog2: Please pastebin the full contents of the file cat.dat, and the output of the command I gave.23:09
hitsujiTMOkingnick42 please try: sudo apt-get -f install23:09
kingnick42hitsujiTMO, done that before ;P doesn't change anything23:10
Jordan_Umydog2: Though I think I see what the problem might be, what is your end goal?23:10
mydog2http://pastebin.com/h3EdebS723:10
James_EppHey guys. I'm in the process of trying to boot the ubuntu live discs over a network using nfs-kernel-server. Under my /etc/exports I have the following, however when clients boot they continue to give the error message "mount: Protocol not supported". What should I troubleshoot? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233647/23:10
hitsujiTMOkingnick42: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install23:10
mydog2and there's no output.. grep isn't working/finding the string given the "/?" combination23:11
Marleneeanyone use dropbear sshd before ???23:11
kingnick42hitsujiTMO, again, doesn't do anything23:11
mintpcI tried installing Ubuntu 13.04 on my windows 8 pc yesterday and it installed fine, but grub wouldnt show up and I'm sure secure boot is disabled23:11
mydog2and doing a double slash \\ prior to the ? in order to escape it didn't work either23:11
bwaynemydog2: I got `grep "foo\\\?abc" txt` to work.23:12
mydog2hey bwayne  - so you used tripple.. yeah.. that could do it23:13
bwaynemydog2: both the \ and the ? need escapes.23:13
hitsujiTMOkingnick42: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge23:14
mydog2bwayne,  - nope.. didn't work!23:14
bwaynemydog2: did you use single or double quotes?23:14
kingnick42hitsujiTMO, ok, done that. What next?23:14
hitsujiTMOkingnick42: what was the ppa you used?23:14
Jordan_Umydog2: grep '/slug/gserver/sdata/Weber_Weber-Booklist.html\\?curDept\\=42126\\&curCourse\\=1581613' cat.dat23:14
kingnick42hitsujiTMO, ppa:libreoffice/ppa23:14
mydog2bwayne, - ok.. two appear to work.. which is what i had before..23:15
hitsujiTMOsudo ppa-purge ppa:libreoffice/ppa23:15
hitsujiTMOsudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:libreoffice/ppa23:15
hitsujiTMOsudo apt-get autoclean23:15
mydog2jordan,  - yeah.. just got it.. thanks.. thought i had escaped everything earlier..23:16
mydog2must have been a typo..23:16
mydog2thanks..23:16
hitsujiTMOkingnick42: then try to install libreoffice again23:16
Jordan_Umydog2: You're welcome.23:16
hitsujiTMOkingnick42: sorry: sudo apt-get update    - then try and install libreoffice23:16
bwayne!xy23:17
ubottuThe XY problem is when you need to do X, and you think you can use Y to do X, so you ask about how to do Y, when what you really should do is state what your X problem is. There may be a Z solution that is even better than Y, but nobody can suggest it if X is never mentioned.23:17
kingnick42hitsujiTMO, same problem23:18
hitsujiTMOi'm not sure then i'm afraid23:18
kingnick42oh well. Thanks for trying :)23:19
marlonbrando78Hi guys, weird issue, no sound and sound indicator, done a lspci as suggested, and both my soundcards are there, as well in alsamixer.23:20
marlonbrando78In sound control panel I have no sound outputs or inputs.23:21
Psil0Cybinhey guys when i try and update i get23:21
Psil0CybinW: Failed to fetch https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/steam/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages23:22
Marleneecan someone help me to fix problem in running multiple sshd instances one server23:22
marlonbrando78A bit of background, I installed wineasio, kxstudio and qjackctl and that's when the sound problem occured.23:22
marlonbrando78I've reloaded Alsa and Pulse Audio. I have upgraded to a new Kernel as well, just to be sure.23:23
Psil0Cybinhey guysi  have a problem when i try and update23:25
Psil0Cybinby using sudo apt-get update i keep getting these errors http://pastebin.com/0mvUE7gv23:25
marlonbrando78Can anyone help, I must of tried everything?23:27
Ponch0hey guys I have ubuntu and no internet connection, where can I get the drivers for my rtl8723ae card?23:27
byerleyHi, I'm having trouble making a bootable windows 7 usb from ubuntu (have the iso), any suggestions?23:35
wilee-nilee!rtl23:35
wilee-nileebyerley, http://askubuntu.com/questions/116885/can-i-use-ubuntu-to-write-a-windows-7-iso-to-usb-in-ubuntu23:39
wilee-nileewinusb23:39
Ponch0i don't get how my internet works during installation but not after, how do I get linux headers generic for 3.11.0-1223:46
Ponch0can i boot from the install cd and download these things?23:46
Ponch0I have no internet and these directions want me to sudo apt-get install, how do I sudo apt-get install a network driver when I have no internet!23:47
Johnny_Linuxlol23:47
Johnny_Linuxlook in synaptics and see if tht kernel exists23:48
Ponch0I don't have synaptics on that ccomputer, it's a fresh install23:48
bogdan_hi everyone23:49
Johnny_Linuxso, you dont have internet ? is that right ?23:49
FAGGOI'm a troll.23:49
Ponch0yup23:49
conallyou will have to download them on another computer, then transfer files over23:49
Ponch0no cable or wireless internet23:49
Johnny_Linuxdid you try a hard line and not wireless ?23:49
bogdan_what's up?23:49
Ponch0yup neither work..23:49
Johnny_Linuxwow, huh23:50
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nuf0xxo/23:54
nuf0xxhow can i discover the max capacity the card reader in my laptop can read. I'm getting errors when I load SD cards23:55

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