[00:00] <Schalla> Tylertwo: Thanks
[00:00] <Dysfunccction> So when I just boot normally, and press "ESC" to switch to text boot, it hangs up at a stage relating to "System V"
[00:00] <TheMadDrizzle> reisio: thanks, gimme one sec to check it all
[00:00] <Schalla> so if i wanna copy the disk, it's /dev/sda, right?
[00:00] <reisio> Schalla: dd is usually not the best way to copy data
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> Dysfunccction, Did this ever boot, if so what led to this no boot, if you can.
[00:01] <Dysfunccction> It used to boot.
[00:01] <Schalla> reisio: Any other way to make a complete mirror of the hdd?
[00:01] <Schalla> I also need the MBR and such, since it's pgp encrypted.
[00:01] <Dysfunccction> The problem occured after I installed Wine.
[00:01] <reisio> Schalla: since?
[00:01] <Schalla> *because
[00:01] <reisio> no, not because :)
[00:02] <Dysfunccction> It asked to remove  incompatable packages, so I did so.
[00:02] <reisio> I'd back up the data, and not the device
[00:02] <reisio> subtly but importantly different
[00:02] <Schalla> reisio: That might be easier, but can't be done that easily.
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> Dysfunccction, what leads to this remove a update or a install...etc?
[00:02] <Ponch0> One more question, installation of geany 1.24 tells me that I'm missing depends "glib2, gtk2 and pango", before install I verified that I have them, although theyre under different file names, glib2 is libglib2 and so on, could this be the potential cause for install failure, and what other things could cause this? so I can look up the solution, thanks!
[00:03] <Schalla> reisio: Why you wouldn't use dd?
[00:03] <TheMadDrizzle> reisio: Everything is unmuted, namely the S/PDIF and S/PDIF Default.  No other toggles that I can find
[00:03] <TheMadDrizzle> Both S/PDIF and S/PDIF Default have no volume controls, just settings to show they're unmuted
[00:04] <Dysfunccction> I just wanted to install Wine. I had also been installing a bunch of other packages in Software Center at the same time too if that matters.
[00:04] <reisio> TheMadDrizzle: hit TAB, use left/right arrow keys, use up/down arrow keys
[00:04] <skeuomorf> hey guys, anybody have any idea why using Plex media server, it can't see my files? Not my Home directory, not my Portable drive, nothing, I tried adding the user plex to the plugdev group then added it to my user's group, still, not able to see the files
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> Dysfunccction, Gonna be hard to find any answers without any specifics.
[00:04] <gulag2013> Is there a linux mint channel?
[00:05] <reisio> gulag2013: /msg alis list *linux*mint*
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> gulag2013, Not on freenode
[00:05] <reisio> wilee-nilee: sure there is
[00:05] <Ponch0> different server gulag ! :D
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> reisio, used to be I think it's gone
[00:05] <reisio> nah
[00:05] <reisio> nothing's gone from this world, 'cept sense
[00:05] <Dysfunccction> I rebooted, but it was going slow so I just hard shutdown. It never booted since.
[00:05] <Ponch0> gulag I think it's irc.debian.org
[00:06] <bazhang> !mintsupport | gulag2013
[00:06] <TheMadDrizzle> reisio: Everything now unmuted and at full volume.  Still no sound or even sound signal shown in PulseAudio
[00:06] <nick1> njsg good news. Still have windows.
[00:06] <nick1> Also have ubuntu
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> ##linuxmint 64 users is all I see
[00:06] <nick1> also have a failed install of ubuntu
[00:07] <gulag2013> Oh, okay tried a few * Thanks for clearing that up. Would anyone here be able t completely remove Cinnamon. I have no idea how it got installed on my Ubuntu 12.04. Thanks for the channel  infor
[00:07] <nick1> So now I'm trying to see if I can get the windows boot manager to work
[00:07] <reisio> TheMadDrizzle: really not talking about muting...
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> nick1, This W8 or uefi?
[00:09] <nick1> wilee-nilee so I have three partitions: Windows 8, ubuntu, and Ubuntu. My computer is booting using UEFI mode. The Ubuntu (capitalized) does not work.
[00:09] <dhanasekaran1> Hi Guys I want record what are command executed in my remote server
[00:09] <nick1> The boot manager allows me to boot to Windows 8 and Ubuntu.
[00:09] <nick1> I would like to delete Ubuntu and have the option to boot to Windows 8 and ubuntu (non capitalized).
[00:09] <dhanasekaran1> please guide me. History command not gives proper output
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> nick1, You tried the bootrepair app to fix ubuntu to boot?
[00:09] <Ponch0> One more question, installation of geany 1.24 tells me that I'm missing depends "glib2, gtk2 and pango", before install I verified that I have them, although theyre under different file names, glib2 is libglib2 and so on, could this be the potential cause for install failure, and what other things could cause this? so I can look up the solution, thanks!
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> nick1, ##windows would be the W8 fix channel deleteing ubuntu can be done from windows.
[00:10] <nick1> wilee-nilee, no do you think that would fix it?
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> nick1, fix what exactly?
[00:10] <Schalla> uhm any reason why: sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=smb://nas/public/BackUp/win7.img doesn't work?
[00:11] <Schalla> I forget anything special?
[00:11] <nick1> To delete Ubuntu (capitalized) and add ubuntu (non capitalized) to boot manager
[00:11] <reisio> Schalla: does dd grok smb:// ?
[00:11] <Schalla> what you mean with grok reisio?
[00:11] <reisio> understand
[00:11] <reisio> I think not
[00:12] <Ben64> smb:// is more of a nautilus thing
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> nick1, "The boot manager allows me to boot to Windows 8 and Ubuntu." this suggests you can boot it now, can you be more concise?
[00:12] <Ben64> you need to mount the share
[00:12] <reisio> Schalla: what're you going to do with a dd of Windows?
[00:13] <Dysfunccction> wilee-nilee: What info were you looking for exactly?
[00:13] <Schalla> reisio: I sometimes need to work probaly again on a windows 7 image, and don't wanna reinstall the whole thing everytime.
[00:13] <Schalla> VPN,Notes, PGP...
[00:13] <Schalla> That's why
[00:13] <Schalla> Ben64: Alright
[00:13] <Guest74544> Hey guys, I have a question about installing Ubuntu 13.04 on my windows * pc
[00:13] <Guest74544> * windows 8 pc
[00:14] <nick1> sure wilee-nilee. Sorry, about that and thanks for your help.
[00:14] <nick1> So currently when I start my computer I am presented with the metro boot manager that gives me two options: Windows 8 and Ubuntu. Windows 8 works fine, but Ubuntu gives an error because I incorrectly installed it.
[00:14] <nick1> However, I have another copy of Ubuntu that does work, but is not given as an option in the boot manager. Does this make sense?
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> Dysfunccction, The channel would want to know exactly what you were installing and what was removed that caused this predicament, a hard shutdown has its own set of problems. To be honest since to are a beginner you might consider a new install, and making a image of that so if you break it again you can just reload it, just a suggestion is all since you have no real details.
[00:15] <njsg> Schalla: go with dd, but maybe it's also useful to copy your windows user profile separately for future use, as some of these files can be just copied to their linux counterparts
[00:15] <Guest74544> I want to split my hdd 50/50 put I get this screen during install http://imgbin.org/images/15357.png, what do I do?
[00:16] <reisio> Guest74544: advanced?
[00:16] <Dysfunccction> I guess I'll just back-up.
[00:17] <njsg> Guest74544: drag the divider so that it gets nearly 50/50?
[00:17] <Schalla> njsg: Ay, it's a fresh install. I just joined a new company, where the default is windows and the system introduction goes 2 days (Lotus Notes is horrible to set up.), so I thought better save it as image.
[00:17] <Schalla> ben64: Works like a charm after mounting it, thanks.
[00:17] <Guest74544> It can only get to where the second partition is approx 90 gigs, and I dunno what parition is which
[00:18] <njsg> Schalla: yeah, image the whole thing
[00:18] <guest-DHhjcT> Pretty please, does anybody have the 1.7 GB ISO file of Ubuntu Studio v10.04.4 LTS 64 Bit. my DVD-R disc cracked :-(
[00:18] <njsg> Schalla: even if you have trouble getting what you need later, it's still better than only having parts of it
[00:18] <njsg> Schalla: there are specific tools to image ntfs partitions, which take into account non-allocated space
[00:18] <Schalla> ay. when i use sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/win7.img i copy the whole disk including mbr and partitiontables, right?
[00:19] <Jordan_U> Schalla: Correct.
[00:19] <Schalla> Perfect.
[00:19] <njsg> Schalla: yeah, and pretty please tell me /mnt/ is not in a filesystem in /dev/sda
[00:19] <njsg> Schalla: you may prefer to copy the windows partition directly
[00:19] <Schalla> njsg: No, it's my network mount :)
[00:19] <njsg> Schalla: mostly because mounting it will become easier
[00:19] <Schalla> on my NAS
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> guest-DHhjcT, That would be eol and not supported, probably on the web though.
[00:20] <Schalla> using sudo mount -t cifs \\IP\public /mnt
[00:20] <njsg> Schalla: oh, one thing
[00:20] <Schalla> *//IP/public
[00:20] <Schalla> Yes?
[00:20] <Guest42414> damn. maybe if I could delete this partition or something
[00:20] <njsg> Schalla: if you ever plan to use this install on a machine with a different controller, you may want to run the windows out of box experience before making the image
[00:20] <njsg> controller, disk controller
[00:21] <deibuji> Hello, how do you set the default text to speech engine in ubuntu? i want to use festival
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> Guest42414, I would be using gparted for some of that, and windows to resize ant windows partitions.
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> any*
[00:21] <guest-DHhjcT> Are there Minimum hardware requirements for WD SATA 3 TB drive? GParted, Test Disk and Red Hat's Disk Utility F'd up the GPT
[00:21] <Schalla> njsg: Why?
[00:22] <njsg> Schalla: windows won't boot if the HDD controller is not the same
[00:22] <Schalla> Ah okay.
[00:22] <njsg> Schalla: if you do the out of box experience, the next boot runs the windows setup
[00:22] <Schalla> Well that's fine, since I will have the same notebook for the next 3 years.
[00:22] <Schalla> ^^
[00:22] <njsg> ah ok
[00:22] <reisio> guest-DHhjcT: did you want the question answered, or the statement addressed?
[00:22] <alone> hi all
[00:22] <Schalla> njsg: You can not get the process of dd, hm?
[00:22] <nick1> right. so I just need to get a partition manager and delete the old one
[00:23] <njsg> Schalla: what do you mean?
[00:23] <nick1> and then I'll worry about boot manager after.
[00:23] <Schalla> njsg: like 1% of 100% finished
[00:23] <njsg> Schalla: ah. you can send a signal to dd to have it print how much it already copied
[00:24] <reisio> guest-DHhjcT: GPT is a good idea, you might also want to consider the -m value for mkfs
[00:24] <njsg> "Sending a USR1 signal to a running 'dd' process makes it print I/O statistics to standard error and then resume copying."
[00:24] <njsg> Schalla: ^
[00:24] <Schalla> njsg: Ah okay
[00:24] <reisio> guest-DHhjcT: other than that, no particular requirements
[00:24] <reisio> guest-DHhjcT: sgdisk -Z /dev/whatever can get you back to square one, be careful what you point it at
[00:24] <dhanasekaran1> In my remote server exec. commands as  non interactive way how actually
[00:24] <dhanasekaran1> How to get the commands issued in a ssh session
[00:24] <njsg> Schalla: the dd manpage mentions that as an example
[00:24] <Schalla> njsg: Guess it will take some time anyway, since the hdd is 250gb
[00:24] <Schalla> ^^
[00:24] <njsg> Schalla: I suppose you can even use pkill, pkill -USR1 dd
[00:25] <njsg> Schalla: the bottleneck may even be the network
[00:25] <Schalla> njsg: It writes with 35mb/s, should be fine.
[00:25] <njsg> ... which reminds me that I should get a gigabit switch someday :-D
[00:25] <Schalla> 1GB Connection with a Gigabit Switch
[00:25] <Schalla> :)
[00:25] <Schalla> Yeah, bought mine 5 days ago
[00:25] <Schalla> 28€, that's fine
[00:26] <njsg> heh, I don't even have a swicher, I just have a bunch of 100 mpbs cards I put on my desktop
[00:26] <njsg> in, 1gbps (although this building only gets 100mbps), out 100mbps
[00:27] <Schalla> 100 Mbit Internet Connection -> Fritzbox -> DLAN (300mbps) -> 1GB Switch -> Desktop
[00:27] <Schalla> ...still better than wlan
[00:27] <Schalla> :Ö
[00:27] <Schalla> :P
[00:27] <njsg> true
[00:28] <njsg> as far as I can, I use ethernet. much less problematic than wlan. although having bad 3g coverage does tempt me to get a wireless switch
[00:30] <Freeder> Hi... I'm troubleshooting a user ssh issue- i can log in to the box via ssh (verified via auth.log), but no shell prompt appears. even verified the shell by running chsh for the user, /bin/bash is set in the passwd file. Any thoughts?
[00:31] <rickb_> hello! so I have a SAS drive enclosure, it basically uses two SATA cables to connect to the board. Any idea how i'd find this array on the box?
[00:34] <deibuji> How do you set the default text to speech engine in ubuntu? i want to use festival
[00:37] <SonikkuAmerica> deibuji: [ sudo dpkg-reconfigure festival ] Does anything happen?
[00:38] <deibuji> SonikkuAmerica: doesn't give any output. let me see if mumble uses it now.
[00:38] <deibuji> SonikkuAmerica: nope. unless i need to log out and in
[00:39] <SonikkuAmerica> deibuji: Hmmm... This is Ubuntu proper (with Unity), right?
[00:39] <deibuji> ah, no. it's with i3; perhaps that's the issue?
[00:42] <SonikkuAmerica> deibuji: I doubt it... i3 is just a tiling window manager.
[00:44] <Guest74544> I want to split my hdd 50/50 put I get this screen during install http://imgbin.org/images/15357.png, what do I do?
[00:44] <deibuji> SonikkuAmerica: although saying that i think i might have removed unity if i remember rightly
[00:45] <Schalla> Guest74544: Like he said, you can pull the divider in the middle?
[00:45] <Schalla> *like it says
[00:45] <Schalla> You can also use the advanded partitiong tool.
[00:46] <SonikkuAmerica> That's what "he" said. :-) I would recommend GParted myself.
[00:46] <Guest74544> Schalla, I'm not sure which partition is which though
[00:47] <Schalla> Guest74544: Does that really matter when they should be 50/50?
[00:47] <SonikkuAmerica> deibuji: Use the dmenu to pull up gnome-control-center and search for Default Applications
[00:47] <Guest74544> Well no, but it would be nice
[00:47] <Schalla> :p
[00:47] <Guest74544> I'm installing it anyways, wish me luck xD
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> Guest74544, This a dualboot with W8?
[00:48] <Guest74544> Yea wilee-nilee
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> Guest74544, Well your installing so we will see what happens
[00:49] <Guest74544> I'll report back the results
[00:51] <Freeder> Hi... I'm troubleshooting a user ssh issue- i can log in to the box via ssh (verified via auth.log), but no shell prompt appears. even verified the shell by running chsh for the user, /bin/bash is set in the passwd file. Any thoughts? (other users can log in)
[00:52] <debfan_> hello....  I can't get firefox restarted....
[00:53] <SonikkuAmerica> debfan_: killall firefox
[00:54] <l_r> when will ubuntu 13 10 be out?
[00:54] <debfan_> ahh, okay... I'll try that next time
[00:54] <debfan_> I think it just took a long time for the process to be stopped?
[00:57] <jrib> Freeder: your user's bashrc or similar files are  funky?
[00:58] <Freeder> hmm
[00:58] <ArielX_> hello all
[00:58] <ArielX_> 12.04.3 LTS and 13.04 which is better?
[00:58] <Freeder> it should still load w/o a bashrc, right?
[00:59] <Tylertwo> !13.10 | l_r
[01:00] <l_r> what will be the biggest news in 13 10?
[01:00] <reisio> that my crystal ball exists
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> l_r: That it's Oneiric with Mir
[01:02] <ArielX_> hahahaha lol
[01:03] <l_r> what's mir
[01:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !mir
[01:03] <SonikkuAmerica> But will be included in13.10 as well
[01:03] <l_r> what are the benefits
[01:03] <reisio> can you really call something next generation if the previous generation's developers haven't been involved with it?
[01:04] <SonikkuAmerica> l_r: Less of the code kludge that is X
[01:04] <reisio> l_r: more Canonicaly
[01:04] <Guest8636> New to Linux here...can I upgrade from xfse to kde?
[01:04] <reisio> Guest8636: you can switch from one to the other
[01:04] <reisio> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu
[01:08] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys quick question i plug in a external hard drive and copy over a file and when i try to eject and unmount it it keeps saying its in use... im using Xubuntu
[01:08] <Psil0Cybin> i saw a couple of guys on it, but i am confused...how can i find out what program is accessing the hard drive, so i can eject it
[01:08] <Psil0Cybin> guides*
[01:09] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: lsof /mnt/point
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> and that would show me what is going on?
[01:09] <reisio> you are probably cd'd into it, or otherwise have a file of its open
[01:09] <reisio> Psil0Cybin: yeah
[01:09] <Psil0Cybin> okay perfect thanks guys
[01:09] <jrib> Freeder: how do you know it's not loading?
[01:09] <jrib> Freeder: oh i misunderstood.  Yeah, if you remove .bashrc it should still load.  You have other files though that affect your shell.  like .profile for example
[01:09] <waykool99> Psil, i've wondered the exact same thing using WD external USB v3 drives
[01:10] <Freeder> jrib: no clue. All I know is ssh authentication succeeds, but no shell prompt appears.
[01:10] <thumbee> if im doing an apt-get install in ubuntu.. will it cause a conflict if i apt-get a second install at the exact same time?
[01:10] <thumbee> *ie. 2 terminals..
[01:10] <Freeder> ok
[01:10] <jrib> Freeder: you can check with another user what your broken user has running when he tries to log in
[01:10] <Freeder> maybe I'll just blow away the user and try again
[01:10] <jrib> Freeder: you just get a "stuck" prompt right?  No new prompt?
[01:11] <waykool99> is it me, or others sentences getting
[01:11] <Freeder> no prompt at all
[01:11] <waykool99> chopped off??
[01:11] <Freeder> and disconnects shortly after
[01:11] <Freeder> c@localhost's password:
[01:11] <Freeder> f
[01:11] <jrib> Freeder: try something like: ssh -t host bash --noprofile
[01:11] <Freeder> Connection to localhost closed.
[01:11] <Freeder> ok
[01:11] <jrib> Freeder: that's different
[01:11] <jrib> Freeder: if you're getting disconnected then it could some ssh setting kicking you out
[01:13] <Freeder> yep
[01:13] <Freeder> AllowUsers
[01:13] <Freeder> sigh
[01:13] <Freeder> thanks
[01:13] <FloodBot1> Freeder: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:13] <Freeder> heh
[01:14] <Freeder> well, still no, but that certainly didnt help
[01:15] <waykool99> ahh. ubuntu studio v12.04 not very friendly to visually impaired.
[01:16] <Freeder> oh, probably need to restart ssh
[01:17] <waykool99> problem was "Default Font = 96 DPI" i changed it to 112. bad idea
[01:25] <nharbel> does anyone know where I can find info on setting up a wireless printer to use with my Ubuntu OS?
[01:26] <Freeder> figured it out, thanks for the chat jrib
[01:26] <Freeder> that user was set for sftp connections only
[01:26] <jrib> Freeder: what ended up being the isuse?
[01:27] <Freeder> group, rather
[01:27] <jrib> Freeder: oh
[01:27] <Freeder> for bonus points, if its sftp only, does that user still need a shell?
[01:28] <Freeder> nope
[01:28] <Freeder> cool. Thanks again
[01:33] <nharbel> wireless printer help anyone??
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> !cups
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> !printing
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> nharbel:  give the channels details of what you have done and what the issue is.
[01:34] <licensed> hello. i would like to make a ubuntu live usb bootable with persistence mode (i want to keep changes on usb disk). i tried to use fdisk like a tutorial i saw, but didn't worked.
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> licensed:  you used fdisk to do what exactly?
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> Theres dozens of tools that can make a live-usb and auto-generate the Persistnt save file
[01:35] <licensed> can you tell me one or two? linux tools please (i dont have windows machine)
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> see the Pendrivelinux web site for a dozen or more of them
[01:35] <licensed> i tried fdisk method described here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[01:35] <nharbel> Willis - I'll read thru the pages you suggested and go from there. thanks for the info.
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> The official Ubuntu tool can also do it. - as can Unetbootin, LILI, and perhaps a dozen+ more i cant recall the names of.
[01:35] <licensed> Dr_Willis, great, man!! thank you
[01:35] <licensed> unetbootin can't. i tried too
[01:36] <licensed> LILI its for windows only
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> unetbootin can make a live=persistant save i seem to recall
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> I alwyas use the tools from Pendrivelinux web site
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> i like the multisystem  tool that can put several ISO's on the same usb
[01:37] <licensed> Dr_Willis, multisystem tools looks great! but this time i need 1 distro only (i am creating one hard disk to specific use)
[01:37] <licensed> thank you i will see this website.
[01:43] <fixa> it‘s so quite!
[01:50] <__[DIAPER]__> Diaper
[01:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Um...
[01:53] <OerHeks> yeah, http://www.cafepress.com/+logoubuntu_diaper_cover,755937384
[01:53] <OerHeks> but lets get back ontopic
[01:54] <User_007> Hwllo, i need help sharing my wireless internet via ethernet.
[01:54] <User_007> i am using 13.04 amd64
[01:54] <cfhowlett> !ics|User_007,
[01:56] <User_007> cfhowlett, but i want to share it using a rj45 cable, not wireless
[01:57] <User_007> like :  internet >(wifi)> laptop >(cable)> device
[01:58] <User_007> i just followed most tutorials on web.. I can ping/ssh the device.. i can access internet on laptop, but not access internet on device
[01:58] <User_007> and it sends the packet to the laptop (seen on traceroute)
[02:01] <User_007> please help!!
[02:02] <OerHeks> there is a specific page for that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyWirelessToWiredConnectionSharing
[02:03] <RedRyder> I am new to Ubuntu. I have been trying to download and install MySQL. I have tried apt-get, yum, the Software Center and have downloaded it from MySQL. Nothing I do seems to work. It appears to install and then I can't find it  or access it. Would someone please email me a step by step so I can get my OpenSim Grids up on linux and off my win8 box? My email is stephen@redryderent.com Thanks in advance.
[02:03] <OerHeks> but the last part resolve conf is out of date, AFAIK
[02:04] <OerHeks> RedRyder, you need apache to serve a mysql database
[02:05] <RedRyder> Okay. So how do I go about doing that?
[02:05] <OerHeks> lamp linux apache mysql/mariadb php
[02:05] <OerHeks> !lamp
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> RedRyder, yum is fedora
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> or arch I forget
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Or CentOS or RHEL
[02:06] <OerHeks> anyway, not debian package manager
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Arch is AUR, but apt and yum both exist for it
[02:06] <RedRyder> I know yum is for fedora but I even downloaded Alien to try and get this .
[02:07] <Pici> RedRyder: so you used apt, and did it do something?
[02:08] <RedRyder> Is (lamp linux apache mysql/mariadb php ) a terminal line command?
[02:08] <cfhowlett> !lamp|RedRyder,
[02:08] <Pici> RedRyder: see ubottu's message
[02:09] <RedRyder> When I used apt it downloaded and installed but I had no access.
[02:12] <akurilin> Quick question. Does "mount" take in consideration the various switches one can specify in fstab?
[02:13] <RedRyder> I'm going to the help site and follow the steps. I will let you know if it gets the proper results. Thanks.
[02:13] <thumbee> ne1 familiar with basic config for a secondary namenode in hadoop
[02:15] <Freeder> argh
[02:15] <Freeder> Why would uncommenting #AllowUsers user1   in sshd_config cause sshd to error and exit?
[02:16] <daftykins> Freeder: if user1 didn't exist case sensitive? :>
[02:16] <daftykins> i don't even know, i'm drunk and guessing
[02:16] <daftykins> but i hate to see someone not replied to <3
[02:16] <Freeder> heh
[02:16] <Freeder> the user exists
[02:17] <Sirisian> Odd. I can't update the time in my ubuntu server. It has ntp installed but the time somehow drifted too far. I stopped the server and ran ntpdate -s time.nist.gov and it does nothing.
[02:19] <Sirisian> oh ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com worked. Odd
[02:25] <Jeviny> So guys, I'm needing some help.
[02:26] <SonikkuAmerica> State your question. :-)
[02:26] <Moonlightning> !ask | Jeviny
[02:28] <Jeviny> Alright, thanks. Recently I've gotten a computer from work, it's a Dell Optiplex 755. Though there's an issue: The only way for me to connect to the internet is to use a router, and the fastest one I could find was a Netgear A6200 from Wal-mart. The drivers are only on Windows, and I'm trying to figure out how I could possibly get it to work. This is a serious issue for me, and all help is highly appreciated.
[02:29] <mimi2323> hey
[02:29] <mimi2323> hey J-2
[02:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Jeviny: Have you installed Ubuntu on the machine already.
[02:30] <J-2> my wifi is non existent in ubuntu 12.10 lts, but works fine in backtrack 5 any idea why? here is my terminal output: http://pastebin.com/e9J4WsnT
[02:30] <Jeviny> No, not yet. I want to know before I install it. My plan is to install windows on a backup partition, and install Ubuntu on the next.
[02:30] <J-2> 04:01.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[02:30] <J-2> go figure
[02:31] <mimi2323> hey guys answer back
[02:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Jeviny: Do you have a Live image of Ubuntu on a DVD or USB stick?
[02:32] <Jeviny> Yes.
[02:32] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | mimi2323
[02:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Jeviny: Go ahead and boot from it, try Ubuntu without installing, and try to connect to the Internet.
[02:33] <Moonlightning> Jeviny: I believe what router you have is (somewhat) irrelevant—the drivers Ubuntu needs are for the laptop's Wi-Fi card, not for any specific router.
[02:34] <rob____> does anyone know why the ubuntu option wont show up when i restart my computer?  dual booted and running windows 7... I can see the partitioned disc created though
[02:34] <Jeviny> Rob, download EasyBCD, check the boot menu.
[02:34] <SonikkuAmerica> !pm| mimi2323
[02:34] <Moonlightning> (/somewhat/ irrelevant: if, for example, your laptop and router don't support a common frequency, you won't be able to connect at all)
[02:34] <Moonlightning> (Or even see the network the router broadcasts)
[02:34] <Jeviny> Welp, wish me luck, all.
[02:35] <Moonlightning> Good luck, Jeviny. :)
[02:35] <Jeviny> Tack.
[02:35] <mimi2323> that's bullshit #SonikkuAmerica
[02:36] <Learn2swim13> Anyne out there who is very familiar with rtmpdump in linux and scripts. I have a script i use in windows for a specific website. And im stumped at how to acomplish the same thing in linux
[02:37] <mimi2323> hahahahah funny
[02:37] <mimi2323> sonikku america pm now
[02:38] <mimi2323> ejat pm questions
[02:38] <rob____> so easybcd will give me the option too boot in windoze or ubuntu at start up?
[02:39] <mimi2323> rob pm if ok
[02:40] <Moonlightning> !pm | mimi2323
[02:41] <mimi2323> how do you ask a guy out
[02:42] <Moonlightning> !ot | mimi2323
[02:43] <Moonlightning> I have a machine running Ubuntu Server on an encrypted LVM, with an encrypted swap partition. When I boot, I get a message that "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/<hostname>-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present." That stays up for twenty seconds or so, then I get the normal login prompt. Immediately after I log in, `swapon -s` shows that swap is okay.
[02:43] <Moonlightning> /etc/crypttab has no mention of <hostname>-swap_1, only cryptswap1. /etc/fstab has (otherwise) identical lines for both. Given that cryptswap1 seems to be working fine on its own, is just getting rid of <hostname>-swap_1 the best thing to do? And how exactly would I do it?
[02:44] <rob____> anyone i can pm for help?
[02:44] <owdjaodopj> I have a wifi card (netgear wgv112v2) and a Broadcom BCM4318... neither can scan for\connect to WEP networks but can connect to WPA\2... but my laptop with a BCM4313 can connect to both? Isn't WEP older than WPA\2? This makes no sense.
[02:45] <Moonlightning> !pm | rob____
[02:46] <Moonlightning> owdjaodopj: I can understand not supporting WEP. All it does is give you a false sense of security.
[02:46] <Moonlightning> WEP can be cracked very, /very/ easily. Try googling for something.
[02:49] <rohy> hello
[02:50] <HateYoFace> SOOOOOOO happy i finally got my razer nostromos gaming keypad working in ubuntu
[02:50] <msx> HateYoFace: lol! what was the problem!?
[02:51] <HateYoFace> im just a ubuntu noob and didnt know how to install the drivers
[02:51] <msx> isn't suppose that a usb keyboard must work by just plugging it in!?
[02:51] <rohy> i'm trying to install ubuntu from minimal and i've manually installed the proprietary nvidia drivers. Is there a way to install xorg without all the xserver-xorg-video-* packages?
[02:51] <HateYoFace> uuuuh ya but no i customise all my buttons so i needed a program to do it
[02:51] <msx> HateYoFace: ohh, drivers hell!! ok, now i understand your happiness :D
[02:51] <HateYoFace> **customize
[02:52] <msx> yes yes yes you're totally right
[02:52] <msx> by the wa
[02:52] <msx> y how did you do it!?
[02:52] <HateYoFace> had to install keyboard master now playing Wow is just as good as playing on windows if not better
[02:52] <HateYoFace> **WoW
[02:53] <msx> cool, congratz!
[02:53] <mimi2323> how to download software such as itunes on computer when i try to download on ubuntu it wont let me open the file plz help
[02:54] <HateYoFace> i recently dumped windows and will never call that cold heartless cunt back
[02:54] <buu> mimi2323: Why do you think ubuntu can run itunes?
[02:54] <IdleOne> !language | HateYoFace
[02:54] <mimi2323> i just thought
[02:55] <msx> HateYoFace: lololololol
[02:55] <sealbhach> HateYoFace: Good for you, Windows is abusive
[02:55] <msx> what a great definition btw xD
[02:55] <HateYoFace> lol i knew that would get a few of you talking :P
[02:55] <mimi2323> buu: i just thought it would does it work
[02:56] <rohy> mimi2323: there is no itunes for ubuntu, what you got was for windows and it doesn't work on ubuntu
[02:56] <rohy> maybe you could get it running with wine
[02:56] <msx> me too ditched windows back on 2007 thanks to ubuntu 7.04
[02:56] <IdleOne> !ot
[02:56] <HateYoFace> the only thing that sucks is i wont be able to play battlefeild :(
[02:56] <msx> although it's been almost 6 years now i don't use ubuntu anymore, i still owe it a lot
[02:57] <HateYoFace> sad day bro i love ubuntu
[02:57] <msx> HateYoFace: what's the issue?
[02:57] <msx> HateYoFace: i'm all about kde ;)
[02:57] <mimi2323> so everyone you can't download itunes
[02:58] <HateYoFace> as far as i know its not possible to play battlefeild 4 on ubuntu anytime soon maaaaaaaybe in wine but i cant imagine it running great
[02:58] <msx> mimi2323: did you tried running it on wine?
[02:58] <buu> mimi2323: Install a virtual machine
[02:58] <msx> HateYoFace: yeah, you're right, may be at 30 fps or less :P
[02:58] <mimi2323> Msx/Buu: how do you do that
[02:59] <HateYoFace> id be happy with 30 fps in all honesty lol as long as it ran half decent
[02:59] <msx> well, the virtual machine will have a lot more overhead to your system and it will be a little more complicated to have itunes working on it the way you want with your *real* system
[02:59] <HateYoFace> you can install itunes with wine bro
[03:00] <HateYoFace> go cop that from the app store
[03:00] <msx> mimi2323: i would recommend to install wine ($ aptitude search wine), then downloading the itunes.exe file and giving a try with: $ wine itunes_installer.exe
[03:00] <msx> mimi2323: you might want to search the net as surely somebody may just have tried to run itunes on ubuntu
[03:01] <HateYoFace> youtube is your friend
[03:01] <msx> HateYoFace: I 2nd that
[03:03] <HateYoFace> whats the most popular irc chat client for linux?
[03:04] <buu> IRSSI
[03:05] <msx> HateYoFace: there are a bunch
[03:06] <msx> in contrast to buu's choice, if we are talking of "console" clients i would go with weechat all the way
[03:06] <Hw4ng3r> HateYoFace: XChat and Konversation are also popular
[03:06] <msx> if you're running ubuntu your best choice might be xchat, though
[03:07]  * Moonlightning uses weechat, loves it. x3
[03:07] <msx> yeah, but konversation is pure kde and will pull a lot of dependencies on an ubuntu desktop
[03:07] <msx> if you're looking for a full-featured graphic client you might want to give quassel a try
[03:07] <msx> it's full Qt w/o any kde dependency
[03:07] <msx> and ubuntu/canonical is well known for embracing Qt lately...
[03:10] <HateYoFace> ya im using xchat its alright im used to using mirc but ill adjust
[03:11] <msx> HateYoFace: http://i.imgur.com/PXYGKBD.png
[03:11] <msx> i myself am a big fan of weechat as Moonlightning but since i've found there's a quassel client for android (as well as for weechat and irssi) i'd stick to with it
[03:18] <HateYoFace> ubuntu 13.04 boots soooooooo fast on a ssd
[03:21] <tjj> I have an ubuntu server at home behind a NAT, and an ubuntu laptop that I use when I'm traveling. Is there some way to set up some kind of VPN-like thing so my laptop can act like it's on my home network?
[03:22] <mimi2323> how to download itunes
[03:22] <Learn2swim13> Anyone really familar with rtmpdump and scripts on linux? I have a script i run in windows for a specific website, i have been unsuccessful at modifying it and running it on linux
[03:23] <Tylertwo> !itunes
[03:23] <Moonlightning> tjj: you could set up an ssh tunnel, or an actual VPN.
[03:23]  * Moonlightning has an actual VPN just for this purpose.
[03:23] <IAmNotThatGuy>  mimi2323 You can run itunes only through Wine... Instead, try downloading the alternatives like RhythmBox and others
[03:23] <tjj> Moonlighting: Is there a web page or something that describes how to set up a vpn server?
[03:23] <Moonlightning> tjj: or something: #openvpn
[03:24] <Moonlightning> They'll likely have some getting-started links in the topic, and you can hang around in the channel in case you get stuck. ^^
[03:24] <tjj> thanks
[03:26] <HateYoFace> im just gonna live in this channel
[03:26] <Moonlightning> Sure. ^^
[03:26] <sealbhach> HateYoFace: How fast is your boot?
[03:27] <HateYoFace> ive never timed it but im to the password screen in maaaaaybe 6-8 secs
[03:27] <HateYoFace> after bios screen has passed its like 6-8 secs
[03:29] <HateYoFace> runnin an amd fx 8120 16 gb ddr3 120 gb ssd nvidia 660 ti
[03:29] <sealbhach> HateYoFace: That's pretty impressive.
[03:29] <HateYoFace> not bad
[03:29] <HateYoFace> i threw it al together in a thermaltake level to gt case and liquid cooled it  shes my baby
[03:30] <HateYoFace> and i had to throw in 2 2tb 7200 rpm drives as well you know to be a boss
[03:30] <HateYoFace> everythings fully hot swappable :)
[03:31] <sealbhach> HateYoFace: Sweet rig.
[03:31] <HateYoFace> i wanna put another 660 ti  in but id have to upgrade the power supply
[03:32] <HateYoFace> i think anyway not sure
[03:34] <HateYoFace> what are your guys thoughts on the asus sabertooth 990 fx boards? yeh neh?
[03:34] <daftykins> SLI is rubbish
[03:34] <sanjeev> Hello. I had my windows on C:\ and had D:\ as windows RECOVERY. I had deleted the partition C:\ and recreated using GPART. Now I have C:\ as RECOVERY and D:\ as normal NTFS. When i boot, i RECOVERY shown in the GRUB. When i try to RECOVER it is failing. I guess the issue is with swap of drive names. Can we correct that now?
[03:36] <daftykins> !boot-repair
[03:36] <daftykins> aww
[03:38] <sanjeev> I guess if i change the Drive names i could potentially do a FACTORY RESTORE and proceed
[03:39] <sealbhach> sanjeev: Can you still boot into Windows?
[03:39] <sanjeev> No i cannot
[03:39] <sanjeev> There is no installed windows on the HDD
[03:39] <_root_> do anyone you knows a file manager with automount capability ? (not thunar; it is of GVFS)
[03:39] <thumbee> is there a way i can verify an apt-get install?
[03:40] <daftykins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:40] <daftykins> thumbee: apt-get package installs *do* verify
[03:40] <sealbhach> sanjeev: So how will you do a factory restore?
[03:40] <daftykins> sanjeev: ^ check out boot repair
[03:40] <sanjeev> sure Daftykins. I will see that
[03:41] <thumbee> daftykins: im may have been unclear. i ran a "apt-get verify openjdk-7-jdk" and now i think the install may be been unsuccessful. im trying to verify that.
[03:41] <sanjeev> sealbhach: I can restore using the RECOVERY partition available. now C:\
[03:41] <thumbee> apt-get package installs openjdk-7-jdk verify  <-- correct?
[03:42] <Tylertwo> _root_, it seems like most file managers will automount. Nautilus and Pcmanfm do.
[03:44] <HateYoFace> how do i register with this irc channel?
[03:44] <daftykins> thumbee: did you remove any pre-existing open java packages?
[03:44] <daftykins> HateYoFace: join #freenode for network help. thats not for this channel
[03:44] <sanjeev> daftykins: I donot have a valid WINDOWS installation to which i can point to. I dont see any option to change the drive names. Is that possible by this "BOOT REPAIR". I dont have a MBR as well.
[03:44] <thumbee> daftykins: nope.
[03:45] <daftykins> sanjeev: that page should've had some instructions for making a downloadable ISO up on a CD-R or USB flash drive
[03:45] <discobiscuit> e
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> !register
[03:46] <sanjeev> daftykins: I am afraid after all the mess that i have done with partitions, i could potentially mess up with my RECOVERY partition potentially losing the option of RECOVERY
[03:47] <daftykins> sanjeev: ok, i can't help any further tonight as it's 5am my time. i'm sure wilee-nilee is free though ^_^
[03:47] <_root_> HateYoFace, /msdg NickServ register you@youremail.com yourpass (i think)
[03:47] <HateYoFace> i googled it thanks :)
[03:47] <daftykins> registration is beyond the topic of this channel
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> sanjeev: you post the bootinfo summary yet from bootrepair?
[03:58] <T20n> anyone using truecrypt
[04:00] <La_Impostora> hii
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> T20n: best is to shoot your specific issue in channel mate
[04:01] <La_Impostora> xD
[04:01] <La_Impostora> Ea   Ea   Ea   Ea   Ea   Ea   Ea   Ea  
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> !test | La_Impostora
[04:01] <T20n> lotuspsychje: want to have ubuntu multiboot with hidden win7 partition
[04:01] <La_Impostora> xD
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> T20n: not sure mate sorry, have too low experience with encryption... are you trying to encrypt your win7 partition from ubuntu?
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | T20n
[04:04] <T20n> lotuspsychje: presently I only have win7 installed, want to hide it and have ubuntu showing up at normal boot
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> T20n: not sure how encryption will help you with this, but you can install ubuntu dualboot with win7, then edit your grub so ubuntu boots as default
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | T20n
[04:07] <T20n> lotuspsychje: well, I think purpose of encryption is to hide win7. thanks.
[04:08] <RoDiMuS-X> encryption wont hide windows but make it unreadable, take a look at using windows bitlocker
[04:10] <daftykins> although bitlocker is arguably useless against the NSA depending upon your own personal level of paranoia
[04:14] <xarses> hello, I'm on ubuntu 13.10 with a dell XPS 13. I've been updating near daily, but first reboot in about 2 weeks. After rebooting, I've found that can no longer receive DHCP addresses from the network on wired or wireless connections. I've performed a dist-upgrade as a per-cation with no result. using 3.10.0-5-generic kernel, cant use newer as the Dell XPS backlight issue is back in the newer revisions again. Would love to have some hel
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | xarses
[04:16] <xarses> lotuspsychje: ty
[04:20] <thumbee> any idea what i should do if i tried installing Eclipse from Ubunutu Software Center and the icon didnt show up on the left taskbar ? :(
[04:27] <s2013> bunch of files ive written are now lost. wtf
[04:27] <inetk> how to turn off animation of displaying dialog in 13.04   it is too slow for me
[04:29] <psypsy> errr, so, do i go here to get some technical help?
[04:30] <cfhowlett> !ask}psypsy,
[04:30] <TheRC51> Would some one be willing to help me with installing Nvidia drivers? I seem to be having issues when I go to a new shell via ctrl+alt+F1
[04:30] <cfhowlett> !ask|psypsy,
[04:31] <psypsy> !ask
[04:31] <psypsy> lol, i see
[04:31] <inetk> !patience
[04:33] <psypsy> Ok, well. I'm running 12.04 on a acer C7 chromebook. I am trying to share an internet connection from my wireless (wlan0) to my ethernet (eth1). My xbox360 will be on the other end of eth1. however, it doesn't quite work. it says it can connect on the network, but cannot connect to the internet. what do?
[04:35] <thumbee> err. trying to add eclipse (developer) to my ubuntu taskbar (it didnt show up after install). but gettering any error when pinning it. specifically the "Categories=Development;"
[04:35] <thumbee> apparently that doesnt exist?
[04:38] <cfhowlett> !ics|psypsy,   might help.  I've not done what your attempting, so I know nothing more to suggest.
[04:38] <SetFACL> After hours of effort, I have managed to ensure my umask for a specific user is a desired 077.  ...but only on the command line.  Nautilus doesn't seem to respect it, along with most Gnome apps.
[04:38] <SetFACL> What might I be doing wrong?
[04:39] <Armegeden> syntax question: i have ubuntu server and i'm trying to run dynamips in the background with: sudo ./dynamips-0.2.8-RC3-community-x86_64.bin -H 7200 & -----yet when i hit "enter" again after launching it, it closes/stops.
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> SetFACL:  how are you setting it?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|Armegeden,
[04:40] <SetFACL> Dr_Willis:  in a number of ways.  To be honest, I'm not sure which one finally took.  /etc/pam.d/common-session, /etc/login.defs, ~/.profile.
[04:40] <Armegeden> ah, specific server channel. i assume that's the point of that trigger
[04:43] <SetFACL> Really, I just want a 077 umask on all newly-created files in my DE of choice.  All the documentation I have found about this is regarding the command line.
[04:44] <thumbee> i just apt-get install eclipse. but it goes "Setting up eclipse (3.7.2-1) ..." then nothing :s
[04:44] <rypervenche> thumbee: Then it's installed :)
[04:44] <Guest61800> type which eclipse in command line
[04:44] <thumbee> ok. ill try that
[04:45] <thumbee> sry im noob :P
[04:45] <thumbee> hahah DUH..
[04:46] <SetFACL> thumbee:  pretty heavy editor for a newbie.  :3
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> they should make it  run the command      cowsay 'Eclipse is installed! Yea'
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> when it done.
[04:47] <thumbee> i would agree
[04:47] <thumbee> !
[04:47] <thumbee> SetFACL: :(
[04:48] <excalibr> Is the final build out? or when it will be?
[04:48] <excalibr> 13.10 iso i meant
[04:49] <inetk> how to turn off animation of displaying dialog in 13.04   it is too slow for me
[04:49] <excalibr> inetk: in compiz config manager
[04:49] <SetFACL> Just the final beta, which is what I am running, and struggling with.
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[04:50] <excalibr> SetFACL: struggling? what's wrong
[04:50] <SetFACL> excalibr:  series of problems.  Can't blame them all on Ubuntu.  Part of it is running bleeding-edge Gnome.
[04:51] <tjj> If I have an init script in /etc/init/ how do I make the service not start on system start?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> tjj:  for upstart theres severl ways. easy way is to (for example)   rename   servicename.conf to  servicename.DONTRUN
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> tjj:  the upstart cookbook site details other ways
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[04:53] <tjj> Dr_Willis: ah okay, the DONTRUN thing seems easy/intuitive, I'll do that
[04:53] <excalibr> tjj: echo manual > /etc/init/service.override
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> tjj:  how to do it can depend on your exact version of ubuntu/upstart also.
[04:53] <tjj> Dr_Willis: It's 13.04, so whatever came with that
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> tjj:  the override stuff should work on the newer ubuntu releases. im not sure about older ones
[04:54] <tjj> excalibr: I'll totally never remember to check /etc/init/service.override when I'm trying to figure out why the service doesn't start later on
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:54] <Dr_Willis>  theres also editing the .conf file i rcall as a 3rd way.
[04:55] <tjj> Is there some kind of UI?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Not seen any, never needed any. ;)
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> not sure if any exist
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> you could alwyas stop the service from rc.local :) as a dirty way also
[04:56] <tjj> ah hah http://askubuntu.com/questions/3341/is-there-any-gui-tool-for-upstart
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> and they say? No? Yes? Who needs one? ;P
[04:56] <tjj> they say "jobs-admin" is the gui
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever used it
[04:58] <tjj> although disturbingly it doesn't show my custom .conf files as jobs
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> I cant wait for all the mass gnashing of teeth and wailing of people when systemd gets implmented. ;)
[05:01] <skino> Can anyone give me details on where I can download ubuntu for my samsung galaxy s4.
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> !touch | skino
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> dont be suprised if it dosent work all that great. :) its still a work in pogress
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> I need to put it on my Nexus 7 someday. but i cant really see a point in doing it.
[05:04] <skino> Ah right its been a while since I have used abuntu and I thought id give it a go.... think il leave it for a while ha
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> the focus in the foreseeable futyre is on the touch platform i hear. Hope that dosent come at a cost to the Desktop user base.
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> ive seen companies refocus their  goals befor.. and really really get their user base annoyed.
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Who, canonical, never lol.
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i was thinking of Apple, good old Commodore Amiga, the Boxee Box guys...
[05:06] <skino> Well I must admit I used ubuntu when it was still 8.0 I think it was and I aint used it till yesterday. ... im well imoressed so far.  Makes it easier for idiots like ne ha ha
[05:06] <HateYoFace> i had a boxee box remote took a crap on me havent touched it since
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> !manual | skino
[05:07] <adv_> Hi all Good Morning
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> ah, never had a problem with ubuntu myself it's all about adaptation in the end for me.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> HateYoFace:  they are handy devices still.  you can get remote apps for your phone.  But sadly the few 'channels' i watched on the boxee box. are no longer supported/working. ;(
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> HateYoFace:  and my Raspberry Pi - works better as a XBMC player device.
[05:08] <skino> Im a commercial photographer and I used a lot of raw fioes wich back then you had to really dig deap to get work arounds and wasnt worth it then
[05:08] <HateYoFace> i cant cuz im retarded and bought the htc windows phone
[05:08] <skino> But thier seems to be more stuff now
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> HateYoFace:  theres xbmc remote plugins for firefox (or chrome?) that let you remote the xbmc players from a PC  also.
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> HateYoFace:  or get one of those $15 remotes that emulate a keyboard.
[05:11] <HateYoFace> i just hook up my 42'' with a 15 ft hdmi cord and run video off my pc
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Ive got so many differnt players its scary. :)   Wife watches her 24/7  - Im suprised its still working after 4+ years of constant use
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> with the new Smart Tv's  dont even need most of the players any more.  Plex Server on PC. and Plex Channel on the tv = handy way to watch my videos
[05:14] <apb> Hello... trying to get sound working on 12.04 server....  looked at a bunch of pages but I get the feeling this requires more of a personalized touch... various pages take different approaches, none give me a warm fuzzy about changing things.
[05:17] <apb> worse, I'm using kubuntu for the very first time... so I'm pretty far out of my element..  quassel irc... konq....  oh the pain....
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  and try them both. ;)
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu uses pulse audio as a front end  over alsa. not sure about kubuntu
[05:17] <apb> no, I'll get use to this one... eventually.
[05:17] <WDavis> kubuntu is my primary OS
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> its trivial to install both and select what you want at the login screen
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Been testing out RazorQt lately
[05:18] <apb> I'd show you the output of pulseaudio if I could figure out how to copy & paste :/
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> use a pastebin web site please apb
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> command | pastebinit
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> !pastebinit
[05:21] <apb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6229728/
[05:21] <adv_> bye 4 now
[05:22] <Guest39656> how can i search for all the png files under one directory ?
[05:22] <Guest39656> or .mp3 files under one directory ?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> the 'find' command can search for a pattern of files (and 10000x othe things)
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> or the locate command  (but thats a bit more overkill)
[05:23] <apb> Guest39656: find /path/to/dir -name "*png"
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> ls -R  | grep mp3          ;)  is a nother way i geuss
[05:23] <apb> Dr_Willis: Here's the output of pulseaudio http://paste.ubuntu.com/6229728/
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> find can use regular expressions - so can get quite powerfill
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> apb:  i knwo very little about sound trouble shooting. Plus im on a console only raspberry pi. so got no browser
[05:24] <apb> oh ok... thank you anyway
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> theres other sound experts in here from time to time.
[05:24] <jeanepaul_> hi, i need some help about my system. i cant boot my ubuntu, i tried everything from the internet like e2fsck on live cd. i still get an error target filesystem doesnt have requested /sbin/init..
[05:24]  * apb listens for a sound expert
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> if you are using Kubuntu - i dident think kbuuntu used pulse audio.
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> but i could be wrong. ;P
[05:25] <apb> don't really know
[05:25] <apb> it's something I saw someone mention somewhere... but there was no context
[05:25] <apb> lots of guesses out there
[05:25] <apb> try this... try that
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> jeanepaul_:  sounds like its trying to boot the wrong disk, or initrd/root is defined wrong. Tried that boot-repair tool?
[05:26] <apb> I'm sure someone that knows what they're doing can help :)
[05:26] <Wug> hey guys, I've got a question
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> apb:  last sound issues i had.. was fixed by a single checkbox/change in one of the config gui's :)  doing all this other stuff may dig the hole deeper for your problems.
[05:26] <jeanepaul_> i tried boot-repair tool
[05:26] <Wug> say I've got a gedit session running over ssh and it's editing files I want to edit
[05:26] <apb> Dr_Willis: Precisely why I came here instead of randomly changing stuff
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> apb:  does the live cd's work at all with sound? tried the latest live cd's tried the beta live cds?
[05:26] <jeanepaul_> installed it to a usb but it wont boot
[05:27] <Wug> is there a way I can kill it and get it to save its current edits without having access to its UI?
[05:27] <apb> Dr_Willis: I don't know... no I haven't tried.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Wug:  not that i know of.
[05:27] <Wug> I don't suppose it handles sigquit or something?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Wug:   ive never seen it work that way. I tend to use console/text only editors over ssh. not gui ones. :)
[05:27] <apb> Dr_Willis: It may have to do with a missing module... or something else.  Really not sure.  Over my head, not a sound expert either
[05:28] <Wug> Dr_Willis: the same question could be asked of vim or emacs
[05:28] <Wug> though the answers will be different.  How do you do it with those?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> apb:  while you wait. you may as well grab the latest iso files and test them out. If for example 13.04 works and 12.04 dosent. that would point to some possible kernel differance/driver differanes and you could see what modules are in use
[05:29] <apb> Dr_Willis: No, I can't mess with it.  Rather do without sound then mess with what I have now.
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Wug:  personally i ssh in, use screen, or tmux, or byobu, then i dont have to force the editor to quit. the session stays alive if i disconnect
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> apb:  what do you have setup now thats so critical?
[05:29] <apb> this isn't a test system, at the moment it's my only system so I'm in a tight spot
[05:29] <apb> Dr_Willis: asterisk
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever used that. :)
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> jeanepaul_, You have the usb first read in the bios?
[05:31] <apb> Dr_Willis: it's not for the timid :)  I spent 6 months learning how to set it up in a virtual environment... then moved it to this physical machine about a month ago.
[05:31] <jeanepaul_> wilee-nilee: yes i think i got it right. will try again. i am stuck with this since yesterday and i cant go on with my projects this weekend
[05:32] <apb> Dr_Willis: Then my windoze machine died a hairy death, and while I'm waiting for parts I figured I'd at least watch hulu and/or youtube while I wait for the mail to arrive some day.
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> jeanepaul_, There is also a outside the bios per session boot menu, the gui you first see when booting should tell you the key prompt for it.
[05:33] <apb> so I can do without if I have to... only my sanity is at stake
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> testing with a live cd - is not goign to damgge yur current setup. ;)
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> err.. if you got it setup in a VM. you can clone the vm to any new install or so ive seen.   that makes it even easier. but im just sayign to test the live cd. not upgrade the system
[05:34] <apb> it may damage my sanity which is in a precarious situation right now
[05:35] <jeanepaul_> wilee-nilee: outside bios? i did not know that. i just set on my bios to boot first on my usb drive, save and exit. and all i cant get is a blinking underline
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> apb:  to watch Crunchyroll.com - its all anime with subtitles. :) no need for sound.
[05:35] <apb> definitely better than nothing
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> jeanepaul_, On my computer it is f12 at powering on.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> jeanepaul_:  ive seen esc, f1, f2, F8 f8, delete and backspace also get to bios
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Every new pc/laptop i get i tend to put a little sticker by the key that gets to the bios. ;) i have had so many over the years
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> people winder whats with the little stickers on eveyr pc ;P
[05:36] <jeanepaul_> wilee-nilee: its delete on my computer
[05:36] <apb> DEL gets to my BIOS
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> asus here - its delete.  My EEE netbook its F2 or esc.
[05:37] <apb> Oops...  Delete on this keyboard
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> actually ive seen some that have keys just for getting to the 'pick what hd to boot'
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> then theres keys to get to the full bios.
[05:37] <apb> F8 picks the HD here
[05:37] <apb> So getting to windoze safe boot requires good timing :)
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> apb:  yep. ;)  seen that also
[05:38] <apb> there's something to be said for standards
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> really makes ya wonder why they pick some of these keys
[05:38] <apb> I talked to a BIOS programmer many years ago.... I was not impressed.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> i definatly have seen keybaords that dont have a F* key unless you rember to hold down a FN- key also. that can really goof you up.
[05:39] <apb> Have you seen the early BIOS's?  Lord.... it makes you wonder if these guys have thumbs.
[05:41] <apb> any sound experts arrive in the last little while?  Got sound problems here....
[05:42] <sl33k> I would like to install windows in my virtual box. But i dont have an iso. is there any virtaul machine software that already has windows iso?
[05:45] <Andrew_> anyne know xorg config for dell optiplex 960
[05:46] <apb> jeez..... people pming me and I didn't even know it... now they're gone... why do people do that?
[05:46] <Andrew_> actually just having problems with monitor/screen setup with xorg.
[05:51] <apb> it sees the hardware.... so it doesn't look like an ALSA problem I don't think?
[05:51] <jeanepaul_> wilee-nilee: it did not boot at first try, second try it booted. now inside boot-repair
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> sl33k:  find a windows cd. make an iso. thers also legal ways to buy legal copies of windows on iso files.  and free/legal downloads if you allready own windows and have a valid key #  i recall seeing on lifehacker web site once.
[05:55] <jeanepaul_> wilee-nilee: i cant boot repair, please connect internet. but my networking on this machine is not working too
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> apb:  theres apps that use alsa directly bypassing pulse audio. if those would work. then that would point to a pulse config issue
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> apb:  i also recall twiddling with the pavucontrol tool once to get my HDMI audio working   it was defaulting to the analog.
[05:56] <jeanepaul_> wilee-nilee: should i try advance options > repair file systems?
[05:56] <apb> yeah, I saw someone mention pavucontrol somewhere...  I don't want to just randomly try stuff.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> i noticed the issue when i saw that the pavumeter tool was showing sound playing, but not hearing anything =- that pointed me to it being a mixer/output selection issue
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> if you dont try stuff you will never get anywhere i imagine
[05:57] <apb> See that's something I could try... mixer
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> just rember what its set at to set it back
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> pavucontrol shows what all hardware is detected i recall also
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> are you using HDMI audio? or analog out? or somthing else?
[05:57] <apb> well "Kinfocenter" shows what hardware is detected
[05:57] <apb> as does lspci
[05:58] <apb> kinfocenter is telling me that it's being seen by ALSA
[05:58] <apb> whatever the heck that is
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> !alsa
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> alsa is the core sound driver system for linux sound.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> pulse audio runs on top of alsa
[05:59] <apb> ok that's helpful to know
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Not sure what kde uses instead of pulse. or if it uses pulse
[05:59] <apb> though i'm still not sure what pulse audio does?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> you might want to ask in #kubuntu
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Pulse adds features to the sound system.  allows several apps to play sound at the same time and so forth
[05:59] <apb> ok that's helpful
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> select output on the fly, and other fetures people expect these days
[06:01] <apb> let me check on the volume applet and see what that has to say for itself... I was in there once before but...   let me see again.
[06:01] <apb> if I can find it again :/
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> be sure it has the right output speakers selected. ;)  and device. if it lets you do that
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> should be a speaker test tool also somewhere
[06:02] <Guest39656> apb and Dr_Willis thanks
[06:02] <apb> oh there's something called phonon
[06:02] <apb> which seems to be some kind of audio app thingy
[06:02] <apb> Guest39656: np
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> ive basically given up on KDE. ;) qtrazor however shows promise.
[06:03] <apb> Dr_Willis: sound and video config
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> but my main machines these days are now netbooks and raspberry pis.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> downsizeing in more ways then one.
[06:06] <apb> everything I've tried says the device is there... but I just get no sound
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> that points to  a mixer, or selected output device issue then tome
[06:07] <apb> well, "phonon" has audio hardware setup... with a test button.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> theres some sort of audio tools out that show a volume meter going up and down as you play sound
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> you dont have your headphones plugged in at the same time? ;) (been there, did that heh)
[06:08] <apb> only headphones actually
[06:08] <apb> at the moment
[06:08] <apb> directly into the card
[06:08] <reisio> heh
[06:09] <Guest39656> when i am making script excuting multiple commands, do i have to enter ";" after each command or i should just start the new command on the new line ?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> id check askubuntu.com - there may be some  info on getting heaphones selected.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> I had a headphone jack/adaptor plugged in once. (but no phones plugged in) = 2 hrs sound trouble shooting.. to realize i just had to unplug the thing.
[06:09] <reisio> headphones selected?
[06:09] <apb> it's just the output port on the card... shouldn't have to seleect anything
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Guest39656:  on a script - a new line per command is easier to read
[06:09] <Guest39656> Dr_Willis, ok
[06:10] <reisio> unless it isn't :)
[06:10] <apb> Guest39656: Some commands require a ; depends on what you're doing
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> apb:   i think may cards these days can change what output is wht. it may not realize it is a headphone and think its like the rear audio plugged in or somthing
[06:10] <jeanepaul_> i still cant get it work. on my boot-info, i get lots of 'Disk /dev/mapper/mainserver--ub--vg-root doesnt contain a valid partition table'
[06:10] <apb> Dr_Willis: I should mention that this is a semi-ancient machine
[06:11] <apb> it's a dell 8100 handmedown
[06:11] <Guest39656> apd, would it be better if i apply ; in all those command ?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> apb:  ive seen dynamic/sensing sound cards 10 yrs agi.
[06:11] <apb> Guest39656: no
[06:11] <Guest39656> or when is ; used ?
[06:11] <apb> Guest39656: If you get errors... then worry about it
[06:12] <apb> Dr_Willis: I would think I'd get at least some kind of something... right now it's dead quiet
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> apb:  try the other jacks perhaps.
[06:12] <Guest39656> apb, i can check wether script ran without error by checking exit status  $?
[06:12] <Guest39656> and if i explicitly got any errors.
[06:12] <apb> Guest39656: Or you could just look at it and see if it gives an error
[06:13] <apb> Dr_Willis: ok
[06:13] <apb> Dr_Willis: although I believe the three ports are mic, speaker out, line in - in that order
[06:13] <apb> left to right
[06:14] <jeanepaul_> Dr_Willis: should i just install new ubuntu to other disk and recover all files from not working installation of ubuntu?
[06:14] <Guest39656> apb, ok
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> jeanepaul_:  or just use a live cd to recover the files perhaps.
[06:15] <apb> holy crap.... I think this thing has 5 ports!!!!
[06:15] <jeanepaul_> Dr_Willis: i need to recover all dev_vms. if i could just recover them, i would never have problems.. will try recovering it from a live cd
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> im not even suer what a dev_vms is. ;)
[06:16] <jeanepaul_> Dr_Willis: oh, its my development_virtual machinces :)
[06:16] <jeanepaul_> Dr_Willis: its where i get a living from my day to day work and stuck in my ubuntu-server
[06:18] <bl4ckdu5t> How can I install quicktime on chromium-browser
[06:20] <reisio> bl4ckdu5t: you'd probably want browser-plugin-vlc or gecko-mediaplayer
[06:21] <bl4ckdu5t> reisio: Do you mean I should do an apt-download of that
[06:22] <amh345> evening all.   i have a ubuntu server setup here. I'm looking for a way to sandbox this server.  i had previously had it setup behind its own router which i would vpn to to connect.  but it was a big mess to setup. is there an idea way to have a machine off the grid, yet somewhat on?  or am i over thinking all of this?
[06:22] <reisio> bl4ckdu5t: apt-get, or use software center, sure
[06:22] <reisio> amh345: proxy is about as well as you can do
[06:22] <reisio> which is what a vpn is, basically
[06:22] <ryorky1> I just reinstalled ubuntu 12.0.4 and my screen will not turn off when my computer has been  inactive.  Any ideas how to solve this?
[06:23] <reisio> ryorky1: ordinary Ubuntu?
[06:23] <amh345> reisio: so is a router that this machines connected to behind another router (that has all my consoles and stuff on) worth doing?
[06:23] <ryorky1> reisio:  yes, ubuntu version 12.0.4
[06:23] <reisio> I guess it depends on how long it takes you
[06:24] <ryorky1> reisio:  any ideas?
[06:24] <reisio> ryorky1: what make/model?
[06:24] <amh345> the end goal here is i have a machine with all my special data.. dev stuff. etc etc. backups. that is somewhat protected.. but that i can ALSO remote/vpn into when I'm offsite.
[06:24] <canaima17242> someone can help me?
[06:24] <amh345> i'd also like to develop off of it.  ugh. maybe I'm asking for too much.
[06:25] <reisio> amh345: theoretically not any more protected
[06:25] <ryorky1> reisio:  hp pavillion dv6.  it worked until I recently reinstalled
[06:25] <reisio> canaima17242: ...with?
[06:25] <reisio> ryorky1: why'd you reinstall?
[06:25] <amh345> because it's still hooked through the other router, reisio ?
[06:25] <canaima17242> how i can install firefox? im  noob :(
[06:25] <reisio> if you can reach it, anyone can
[06:25] <amh345> right.
[06:25] <ryorky1> reisio:  was having some issues w/ apache
[06:25] <reisio> you could slow someone down by making it more complex
[06:26] <reisio> but it'll also slow you down
[06:26] <amh345> ok, so it would be about the same to lock this sandboxed server down and just throw it on the network?
[06:26] <canaima17242> im not user linux :S
[06:26] <reisio> amh345: it'd be close enough
[06:26] <reisio> amh345: your time :)
[06:27] <reisio> canaima17242: open software center, look for firefox
[06:27] <amh345> when i had the vpn through the one router to the router that has the machine- i could never get it to work on my data connect.  and to top it off, my router bricked and i had to reset it. losing all the work i put into the mess of routing the vpn.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> canaima17242:  last i looked - firefox was installed by default on ubuntu
[06:27] <amh345> so now I'm left sitting here.. trying to decide what to do with this.
[06:27] <reisio> bricked means you've turned a physical device into something as useful as a brick
[06:27] <reisio> it means you can't use it anymore
[06:27] <reisio> it doesn't mean you can press a button and it works again :)
[06:27] <reisio> just saying
[06:27] <reisio> lot of people misusing that term lately
[06:27] <jeanepaul_> Dr_Willis: i could not see my files from primary disk. all i can see is external disks from live cd.. will reinstall ubuntu...
[06:27] <amh345> ok. SOFT bricked. if there is such a thing :/
[06:28] <reisio> there isn't :)
[06:28] <amh345> hah
[06:28] <reisio> but I know what you mean
[06:28] <amh345> ok, the password got corrupted. and i couldn't log in.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> jeanepaul_:  did you properly mount them?
[06:28] <amh345> so i had to flash it.
[06:28] <amh345> anyways. do you have any recommendations for this?
[06:28] <canaima17242> my software is GNU/linux..that dont have software center :S
[06:28] <reisio> another argument for using an ordinary GNU/Linux as a router
[06:28] <reisio> canaima17242: it has if it's Ubuntu
[06:29] <jeanepaul_> Dr_Willis: how can i mount them from live_cd? from disk_utility?
[06:29] <canaima17242> ok.. srry.. :S
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> jeanepaul_:  proper use of the mount command is how i normally mount things
[06:30] <amh345> one of the other thoughts i had was to just put this machine off the network entirely and sit it on it's router by itself. then assign my eth0 on my laptop to that other router and have all other traffic go through wifi).  but even then. not good.
[06:30] <reisio> amh345: pay a beautiful model to personally filter commands send to one computer, and if appropriate, type them in manually into the special box
[06:31] <amh345> reisio: i thought about that.   she could 'intern'
[06:31] <joobz> hey guys.. where can i get the drivers / tools to manage a Adaptec ASR-2405 from Ubuntu 12.10 (quantal) .. ?
[06:31] <reisio> :p
[06:31] <amh345> she would get experience. while doing my bidding. one of her duties would be simple.  suntanning.
[06:31] <joobz> Adaptec's site seems to only support up to v11.. wondering if there is another repo that would have it
[06:31] <hitsujiTMO> amh345: there is such a thing as soft brick: it means one step away from brick ( such as performing a reboot )
[06:31] <reisio> joobz: what's an asr-2405?
[06:31] <joobz> reisio, RAID card
[06:31] <jeanepaul_> Dr_Willis: tried mounting it on a terminal, 'unknown filesystem type LVM2_member'
[06:32] <joobz> I run it on my media center box
[06:32] <amh345> so after all this. I'm not really any closer to deciding on an approach to this mess.  i think I'm wanting the impossible.
[06:32] <hitsujiTMO> amh345: and usually a soft brick isn't a point that is not recoverable from either
[06:32] <hitsujiTMO> is*
[06:32] <amh345> hitsujiTMO: i just had to ref lash it because my pw was corrupt.
[06:33] <amh345> but it sucked because i had all my vpn stuff that took me forever to do-- configured.
[06:33] <hitsujiTMO> thats just a fuckup
[06:33] <amh345> and then.. i was defeated.
[06:33] <hitsujiTMO> backup as you go ftw!
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> jeanepaul_:  i dont use lvm. so all i can suggestis check out the lvm wiki pages.
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> !lvm | jeanepaul_
[06:33] <amh345> well, i couldn't back up because i couldn't remember the password.  hah.
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> you should have backuped your password onto a post-it-note
[06:34] <amh345> so i did something to reset the password, according to the docs. only there was a goof,,.. escaped char or something.. i don't recall. that basically made the password dead.
[06:34] <reisio> joobz: ah
[06:34] <reisio> joobz: what do you want raid for?
[06:34] <amh345> Dr_Willis: i now scan post it notes with passwords.  store them on my tablet.. behind a finger print.  only i lost my fingers. so now I'm screwed again.
[06:34] <joobz> reisio, i store my movies on there.. just wanted it there for redundancy so i dont lose my stuff
[06:35] <hitsujiTMO> amh345: one thing i learned from configing a cisco 3845: constantly backup the config as you go
[06:36] <worst> I've a question. On Windows I'm able to use the video slots on my motherboard and extend my desktop to them, with the rendering being done on my AMD 7970
[06:36] <amh345> well guys, it's been a slice. but i think i need to go an investigate this shitty impossible idea i have in my brain.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> worst:  i use multi monitors in ubuntu all the time. :)
[06:36] <reisio> amh345: hear hear
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> !language | amh345
[06:37] <worst> Dr_Willis: I know mutli-monitors work
[06:37] <amh345> :/
[06:37] <worst> Dr_Willis: My problem is I want to have 2 monitors plugged into my motherboard and 2 plugged into my video card
[06:38] <worst> On windows I can extend the desktop  across despite the displays being on different video cards
[06:38]  * sixy-home waves
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> worst:  it should be doable. if the drivers support that many. and the cards can do it.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> worst:  ive done it befor with Nvidia cards.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> but with any over 2 - ive had issues in the past. (not tried it lately. my desk is too small)
[06:38] <sixy-home> everything lindows can do linux can! :)
[06:38] <worst> Hm
[06:39] <reisio> xscreensaver even has BSOD
[06:39] <sixy-home> worst, what do you mean by extend the desktop though
[06:39]  * sixy-home waves reisio 
[06:39] <worst> sixy-home: I have 4 monitors. 2 of them plug into my video card and 2 into the slots on my motherboard.
[06:39]  * reisio tides
[06:39] <sixy-home> ah i see worst, ok
[06:39] <apb> doh!
[06:40] <worst> On windows I'm able to have the screens work side-by-side
[06:40] <sixy-home> so you can extend one desktop across all monitors?
[06:40] <sixy-home> oh
[06:40] <sixy-home> im 100% u can do that on linux too
[06:40] <inetk> i forgot where to find the classic drop down menu of my installed stuff...  that i used to have on top lright ...
[06:40] <sixy-home> proper configs
[06:40] <reisio> I'm 101% sure
[06:40] <apb> Mute was set on the playback setting.... something I checked, but the font is so damn tiny I couldn't see it.
[06:40] <worst> Does anyone have any insight as to how though?
[06:40] <sixy-home> unfortunately im very bad with screen and video setup on linux :(
[06:41] <reisio> worst: how to do what?
[06:41] <jmgk> hi all
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> worst:  not sure what you mean side by side? I have my desktop setup where i can drag windows to any of my monitors.
[06:41] <reisio> jmgk: hi
[06:41] <worst> Dr_Willis: precisely what I want
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> worst:  works virtually identiclly to how windows does it
[06:42] <worst> Dr_Willis: I have it working for 2 monitors
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> worst:  plug stuff in, and see what happens. You might need to use the fglrx drivers.
[06:42] <apb> I suspect he means  [here's one screen and...][...here's the other]
[06:42] <worst> I have fglrx
[06:42] <worst> apb, yes
[06:42] <worst> the problem is I have 2 in my video card
[06:42] <reisio> two fglrx and two intel?
[06:42] <worst> and 2 in my intel
[06:42] <worst> Yes
[06:42] <apb> I suspect he means [here's one screen and...][...here's the other][and here's the third]
[06:42] <hitsujiTMO> worst: what you getting on the monitors now?
[06:42] <reisio> mm, probably need some xrandr magic
[06:43] <worst> well right now I'm just trying to get 3 going
[06:43] <worst> and on 2
[06:43] <worst> I have it working
[06:43] <worst> the 2 on my video card
[06:43] <worst> 2 have a black screen
[06:43] <apb> Dr_Willis: You were right for the most part... it was a setting... in my case... the mute.
[06:43] <hitsujiTMO> worst whats output of: xrandr
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> apb:  ;)
[06:44] <inetk> i forgot where to find the classic drop down menu of my installed stuff...  that i used to have on top lright ...
[06:44] <inetk> or what it called
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> inetk:  for ubuntu/unity - theres some extra extensions/indicator applets. or other toosl that add a similer feature.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> inetk:  unless you want to use a classic-gnome-2 look alike mode.
[06:44] <worst> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Q0AGBV8u
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> inetk:  i recall seeing several mentioned at askubuntu.com once. Not tried any lately. so im not sure what new ones may be out. or what old one/ways me be discontinued
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> inetk:  i saw one that you could put in the left side panel and gave a nice full menu of apps. but i cant recall its name
[06:46] <jmgk> hey dryw
[06:46] <jmgk> Dr_Willis,
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> worst: i think drivers might be your issue
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> Moo jmgk  :)
[06:46] <jmgk> lol
[06:46]  * jmgk milks Dr_Willis 
[06:47] <jmgk> Fresh milk ya hear
[06:47] <reisio> ...
[06:47] <jmgk> I assumed he was a cow
[06:47] <jmgk> :P
[06:47] <worst> hitsujiTMO: howso?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> cowsay $(fortune)
[06:47] <jmgk> lol
[06:47] <hitsujiTMO> worst is that with all 4 monitors attached?
[06:47] <worst> just 3
[06:48] <hitsujiTMO> ahh kk
[06:48] <worst> what I'm wanting to do is run my 2 side monitors off the intel
[06:48] <worst> and my projector + main off the video card
[06:48] <reisio> your projector? :)
[06:48] <reisio> hey give me your address and tell me when you're out :p
[06:49] <worst> :p
[06:49] <inetk> lol
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> he takes it with him when he leaves. ;) its one of those Cell Phone sized prokectors. ;P
[06:49] <daftykins> projectors are overrated
[06:49] <reisio> no they aren't :)
[06:49] <hitsujiTMO> ok, the 3rd monitor is expanding the desktop alright, so i'd have to guess that its a driver issue
[06:50] <worst> datfykins: My 100 inch 3d wall screen would beg to disagree
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> perfect for watching My little Ponies..
[06:50] <worst> 3rd monitor was plugged into video card before
[06:50] <worst> which is why it's coming up in xrandr
[06:50] <worst> as if it's there
[06:50] <daftykins> worst: most walls are 3D :(
[06:51] <reisio> daftykins: 100 inch
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> except the really really flat ones.
[06:51] <daftykins> size != quality
[06:51] <reisio> size = size, though
[06:51] <worst> ^
[06:51] <worst> anyway I'm going to reboot and come back with xrandr
[06:51] <worst> be right back
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> wii bowling on a 100 inch screen. ;)
[06:52] <daftykins> not even HD :(
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> hd is overrated. :)
[06:52] <daftykins> also Wii bowling was so several years ago, ermagerd
[06:52] <worst> daftykins: hd if run from dolphin :)
[06:52] <daftykins> naaah
[06:53] <worst> brb
[06:53] <daftykins> truth be told i've not seen a proper 1080p projector in person
[06:54] <helmut_> hi
[06:54] <reisio> hi
[06:54] <reisio> hrmmm
[06:54] <reisio> I forget if work has 1080 or 720
[06:54] <reisio> it's large and in charge, though
[06:55] <daftykins> reisio: work!? you need to bust that sucker out ;)
[06:56] <hitsujiTMO> i'm just used to seeing projectors that aren't propperly calbrated to the screen, so no point in having high resolutions on them
[06:56] <jeanepaul_> Dr_Willis: it just wont work with live_cd;: i hate it when things like this happens. i chose to develop by using vm so i could not worry about when crash happens. now crash happens to a host and all vm's unusable. i cant remember anything doing wrong except i just added a new disk, use gparted, then configure it to add storage pool in virt-manager
[06:56] <reisio> daftykins: :p
[06:56] <daftykins> nn all
[06:57] <reisio> ninite
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> jeanepaul_:  i dont know enough about lvm to even reccomend anything.   i tend to avoid complex setups
[06:58] <reisio> lvm is great if you know ahead of time that you will forget something ahead of time
[06:59]  * reisio keeps face straight
[06:59] <jeanepaul_> Dr_Willis: im not even sure why i got lvm. i just follow the installation from ubuntu-server while partitioning. i just hit yes and yes. im not 100% agile with ubuntu so i wont bother anything about lvm. im just using ubuntu to host a development environment for me
[06:59] <reisio> lvm can be useful for encryption, too
[07:00] <reisio> but isn't strictly required
[07:02] <jeanepaul_> how about using attempt rescue date in gparted? will it recover my files?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> jeanepaul_:  how did you try to mount the lvm volumes?
[07:03] <sixy-home> gparted can rescue data? @.@
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> gparted manages partions.. Im not even sure it touches lvm stuff at all
[07:03] <sixy-home> o well it can ;d
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> ive definatly seen people in here haveing issues deleteling redhat lvm partions (?) with gparted befor.
[07:04] <sixy-home> hey whats an lvm partition ?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> I dont use lvm so no idea. ;)
[07:04] <daftykins> !lvm
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> i hae just seen a HUGE number of issues with people and lvm in here the last month or 2
[07:04] <jeanepaul_> Dr_Willis: i did this sudo mount /dev/mainserver-ub-vg/ a
[07:04] <reisio> it makes recovery more complicated
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> normally they seem to be using  it with no idea how  it actually works. ;)
[07:05] <reisio> 'cause they used an installer :)
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> ive not noticed the ubuntu installer using lvm. but  I tend to manually set up my partions
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> redhat and fedora i think use lvm by default.
[07:06] <jeanepaul_> Dr_Willis: followed instructions from here http://pissedoffadmins.com/os/mount-unknown-filesystem-type-lvm2_member.html
[07:06] <hitsujiTMO> i think the ubuntu installer default to non lvm iirc
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> it might be encrypted disks/homes/partions use lvm. ( ive learned to avoid that feature also) ;P
[07:07] <reisio> unless you do encryption
[07:07] <reisio> mmm
[07:08] <dixon_> hi, am using xchat-gnome for irc. How can i set my nickname and password for auto login ?
[07:08] <mPrometheus> Sup guys?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> dixon_:  most people perfer to use the normal xchat. I know that has it in its serrver settings  area. not sure about xchat-gnome, you did look in its settings menu/items?
[07:09] <hitsujiTMO> dixon_: in network list in the menu
[07:09] <reisio> mPrometheus: sup
[07:09] <reisio> dixon_: CTRL+s, traditionally
[07:10] <reisio> edit; nickserv password, server password (set both, same pass)
[07:10] <mPrometheus> not much, thought I'd try this irc thing out.
[07:10] <dixon_> got it :) but why to add server password ?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> Then theres the sasl stuff  to identify. Not real sure how it gets mixed in. ;) I have to use sasl on my android phone - or else freenode dosent like me.
[07:11] <reisio> dixon_: 'cause IRC is old and rickety
[07:11] <dixon_> :) will test it..
[07:12] <dixon_> Also, difference between xchat and xchat-gome ? both are not same ?
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> dixon_:  they are defaintaly not the same
[07:12] <reisio> xchat-gnome is xchat b0rked the way gnome people like it
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> xchat-gnome is more dumbed down i guess you can say
[07:13] <reisio> probably has its prefs hidden in gconf
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> Most people seem to perfer xchat - over xchat-gnome
[07:13] <reisio> the way gnome likes it
[07:13] <reisio> both be replaced by hexchat eventually
[07:13] <dixon_> hmm.. i am seeing..
[07:13] <hitsujiTMO> I prefer hexchat over xchat :P
[07:13] <reisio> or hexchat-gnome
[07:13] <dixon_> looks like better to switch back to xchat..
[07:13]  * reisio shrugs
[07:13] <dixon_> hexchat ?
[07:14] <dixon_> will read about it..
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> hexchat is an xchat spinoff
[07:14] <reisio> eventually hexchat will be there and xchat won't
[07:14] <reisio> you don't have to think about it
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> i cant really say ive noticed much differance. I use hexchat on windows
[07:14] <reisio> hexchat has actual bug fixes :p
[07:14] <reisio> 'bout it
[07:14] <reisio> it's maintained
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use weechat mainly these days
[07:14] <reisio> you sicko!
[07:15] <EricKit> Hello, I have a pretty simple question, and googling I can find details, but I just want to make sure I understand it before I press.  I am running 13.10 and a uname -a says I'm running kernel version 3.11.0-12-generic.  I thought running apt-get dist-upgrade would update the kernel and software after an update.  But when I look at kernel.ubuntu.com I see a 3.11.4.  Should I manually update to 3.11.4 or will apt-get upgrad
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> took 5 hrs to compile weechat on my raspberry pi. ;)
[07:15] <hitsujiTMO> dixon_: here's a ppa for hexchat if you want to try it: ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/hexchat-stable
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> poor little pi was all tuckered out
[07:15] <reisio> heh
[07:15] <reisio> cross compiling my man
[07:15] <reisio> it's barely different from xchat at this point
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> i should set up distcc on all my pi's :P
[07:16] <buu> EricKit: You can only run a new kernel after rebooting
[07:16] <buu> EricKit: You should probably be running the kernel that apt-get upgrade; gives you
[07:16] <reisio> distcc gumstix cluster
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  the latest at kernel.com may be newer then whats in the repos.
[07:16] <reisio> kernel.com is my favie
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  stick with whats in the repos. unless you have a major need to use the others
[07:17] <Roshan> Hello .. i downloaded ubuntu 13.04 amd64 for my intel 64 laptop which is before 2011 .. and made a btable usb ..
[07:17] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: Thanks for the information, do you know which repo contains the kernel?
[07:17] <Roshan> when booting my usb after reboot ..
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  theres some unoffiical ppa's - i dont need them. so dont use them
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> !kernel
[07:18] <Roshan> it shows PXE error ,, and i cant install ubuntu
[07:18] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: Do you manually update your kernel then?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  i use whats in the repos.. ive never needed any other kernels
[07:18] <Roshan> please help me to install ubuntu from my bootabale usb without trying PXE option .. is there a way to disable PXE option?
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> to me using ubuntu means 'i dont have to worry about the kernel'
[07:19] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: Makes sense.  I'm having an issue that I was hoping maybe the new kernels fixed
[07:19] <hitsujiTMO> Roshan: when you boot the laptop open the boot menu: PXE is network boot and is last on the list
[07:19] <hitsujiTMO> you want usb not pxe
[07:20] <Roshan> ya ..
[07:20] <EricKit> When my computer suspends, it immediately wakes up.  I can't find any logs that say what triggered the wake-up.  I have looked in dmesg and the suspend log
[07:20] <Roshan> Thanx ..
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  easy way to test would be try the latest live-cd of the 13.10 release with the newer kenel.  (but i dont know what version thats using right now)
[07:20] <Roshan> i ll see to that
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  but it wouldbe the safest way to test ;)
[07:20] <hitsujiTMO> EricKit: maybe the peeps in #ubuntu+1 can hel you fix it
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> i never use suspend or hibernate either. ;)
[07:21] <EricKit> Haha, thanks guys! Appreciate the info
[07:22] <Roshan> @hitsujiTMO i select USb..
[07:22] <hitsujiTMO> if its going to PXE boot when you select USB then the usb prob isn't bootable
[07:23] <Roshan> i used universal usb installer to make it ..
[07:23] <hitsujiTMO> what filesystem?
[07:24] <Roshan> FAT
[07:24] <hitsujiTMO> also have you disabled secure boot/fast boot in your bios/uefi of you have it?
[07:24] <Roshan> my laptop is very old..bought in 21 ..
[07:24] <Roshan> no uefi
[07:25] <hitsujiTMO> might have fast boot tho
[07:25] <hitsujiTMO> disable fast boot if its there: that inits USB too late on most boards to boot from USB
[07:28] <Roshan> no fast boot in my laptop
[07:30] <hitsujiTMO> roshan: then i can only think that the usb was not written to correctly, try creating it again, or use a different tool
[07:30] <RoboC0der> hi guys
[07:31] <RoboC0der> any body can help me to resolve my issue in kernel programming?
[07:31] <RoboC0der> any body have kernel  programming experience ?
[07:32] <jmgk> ho Roshan
[07:32] <xQuasar> RoboC0der, would probably be better if you just stated your issue
[07:32] <wiehan> I have a headless ubuntu 12.04.2 server in my house, it serves up all my media through Plex Media server, Also it acts as a torrenting box. I can listen to all my music via plex's web interface. What I haven't figured out yet is how to set up something like a DAAP server so that I can access all my music from, say, Banshee
[07:32] <wiehan> any advice?
[07:33] <hitsujiTMO> wiehan: have you looked at forked-daapd ?
[07:33] <Roshan> jmgk hi
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !find daap
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !info python-daap
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> !info forked-daapd
[07:34] <wiehan> hitsujiTMO, No I will now. I need something that can be set up via ssh and run on start up and requires no gui
[07:34] <RoboC0der> thx XQuasar for your notice ;) i have some problem in compiling of my own made kernel , i trying to add my own write module to kernel but it's gonna to some trouble in bootup!
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> wiehan:  that would be most of the various dlna/upnp/daap servers out there i imagine. :)  they work as a service.
[07:35] <buu> wiehan: What the heck does plex even do?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> i thought plex could work as a  music server also. but i dont use the feature
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> buu:  its sort of a  heavly forked XBMC. with the client/server split apart
[07:35] <gulag2013> I have no idea how cinnamon got installed. Does anyone know the right way to Purge Cinnamon from Ubuntu 12.04?
[07:35] <wiehan> buu plex is a beautiful media server
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> buu:  I have the plex server running on the home pc.  the plex 'channel' on my roku lets it get to my media. same as the plex app on my tablets
[07:35] <buu> So it has a server that indexes local content and a client that displays it over a network?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> plus theres Plex-Pi for the raspberry pi to turn any tv into a plex enabled tv.
[07:36] <wiehan> Dr_Willis, I run the plex app and plexbmc from my ouya!
[07:36] <hitsujiTMO> Dr_Willis: apparently plex is pretty bad for DAAP support
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> theres the Plex Server, then the Plex Clients.   it is a Dlna/Upnp server
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> hitsujiTMO:  i dont use daap so no idea. ;)
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> plex also has a 'service' where you can access your files over the internet,  for so much a month. like $4 or somthing..
[07:37] <buu> plex website is impressively uninformative.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> saves on having to figure out port forwarding and dynamic ips and otehr thigns.
[07:38] <buu> So is there a plex 'media center' for linux also?
[07:38] <buu> Or just windows/osx?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> the plex media center is indows only. theres Plex Clients for android.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> and the PlexPi specific disrto
[07:39] <Armegeden> I currently have Plex running as a plugin on FreeNAS, so there must be a nix port.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> any upnp/dlna client can access the plex server
[07:39] <buu> Armegeden: That's the server part right?
[07:39] <Armegeden> Yes
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> my xbmc machines can see the plex server.
[07:39] <buu> Dr_Willis: I mean, I want a shiny frontend that shows me movies/tv/etc with nice menus and pictures?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> as can all the dlna clients
[07:39] <Armegeden> I have the client on my iPhone, but from the PC, I just use the HTTP interface. My Roku also has the Plex client.
[07:39] <buu> On a linux box connected to a tv
[07:39] <cfhowlett> buu, xmbc?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> buu:  xbmc, or any dlna client can do it
[07:39] <buu> oh
[07:40] <buu> Is there any advantage to using xbmc with plex?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> but the plex Channel on the Roku - makes it rather easy to get going
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> xbmc can access a plex or any dlna server. so its a matter of what you like
[07:40] <hitsujiTMO> xbmc also does smb and nfs too
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> my xbmc-enabled pis can access the shared videos.
[07:41] <Armegeden> buu, Plex is that shiny front end. You add a directly of Movies or TV shows, then it reaches out and downloads JPG cover photos, synopsis, etc. Then makes a very nice looking webpage for it all.
[07:41] <auronandace> buu: just so you are aware, part of plex is closed source (in case that affects your choice)
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> the plex server. when running on WINDOWS - does have a few extra features ive noticed (well seen, never got them working) like the ability to watch amazon prime, or netflix from the plex clients
[07:42] <reisio> nothing stopping them from netflix, except that they haven't implemented it yet
[07:42] <worst> Hi again all
[07:42] <Armegeden> Plex also has the ability to add "Stations". For example, I currently have The Daily Show, TED, NPR, etc. So I can stream my personal stuff or one of those channels from any of the clients.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> well on windows i think they some how run netflix/silverlight in thebackground and reencode/broadcast it to the client.
[07:42] <buu> Armegeden: So I'd install the plex server on the serverbox then access the media via http/web interface?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> ive not gotten much of the stations to ever work.
[07:42] <reisio> well on windows, silverlight has historically been available :p
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> buu:  or any dlna client.
[07:43] <hitsujiTMO> plex also charge for the client on android
[07:43] <buu> Dr_Willis: I guess I'm confused what you mean by dnla client. Isn't that just a regular media streaming client?
[07:43] <Armegeden> buu, from a PC, sure. On your iPhone/Android/Samsung Smart TV/Roku/etc, there are specific plex apps that interact very well.
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> hitsujiTMO:  yep - it was on sale about 3 weeks ago for $1
[07:43] <buu> Er, streaming protocol
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> buu:  'regular media' means very little. :) DLNA/Upnp is a specific type of streaming
[07:43] <buu> Armegeden: Right now I've got a linux box with movies/etc in one room, then the tv room has a tivo and a linux box hooked up to it
[07:44] <Armegeden> The Plex client on my iPhone picks up the DLNA multicast. However, you can add the Plex server by IP (if you're not routing multicast)
[07:44] <reisio> take mplayer over any of them any day
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> I got a Plex Server setup - shareing several TB of vidoes to about 4 differnt devices. Roku. Pi, smart tv.  and other pcs
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> with the plex channel on the pi, smart tv, and roku. the interface for the client is virtually identical
[07:45] <Armegeden> Yep. They're pretty good at the unity part.
[07:45] <Armegeden> Making it all look the same.
[07:45] <moes> http://paste.ubuntu/6229416/
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> ive been looking through all the xbmc themes - to find one that dosent confuse my wife. ;)
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> but shes been using the same media-player box now for 4+ years.  it sort of supports dlna even. but its so old. it dosent do it well
[07:46] <dixoncx> hexchat looks like refined xchat, really liked this..:)
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> dixoncx:  i honestly cant recall noticeing any differance. ;)
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> of course xchat from like 6 yrs ago was  a bit differnt in subtle ways also.
[07:47] <Armegeden> buu, so http://www.plexapp.com/desktop/ lists Plex Media Server Download in Ubuntu, Fedora, and CentOS flavors.
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> i recall some KDE irc clients that were a bit on the radical side if you want massive feature sets dixoncx
[07:48] <dixoncx> In ubuntu unity, it may require more dependencies..?
[07:48] <paulus68_1> I want to share some external drives connected to my desktop with other pc's (with linux and window operating system) do I need to use samba or is sharing and mapping sufficient?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> dixoncx:  a kde app would pull in whatever kde dependencies it needed
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> paulus68_1:  shareing and maping.. does use samba i belive.
[07:49] <worst> ^ this
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> paulus68_1:  you want to share FROM a windows box or a linux box?
[07:50] <paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: from a linux box
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> windows can map a share to a drive letter - that still uses samba on the linux box.
[07:50] <buu> Armegeden: Yeah, I was trying to figure out exactly what the media server actually did
[07:50] <hitsujiTMO> windows can also do nfs iirc
[07:50] <paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: install samba on the linux box and start configuring
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> ive never managed to find a  nfs server on windows..  (havent looked lately)
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> paulus68_1:  yep.
[07:51] <worst> hitsujiTMO: you can't on windows 8..
[07:51] <paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: ok thx
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> paulus68_1:  if you are shareing a NTFS partition, you may need to mount it from /etc/fstab with specific options to allow the share to work
[07:52] <Roshan> hitsujiTMO: this is my problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/312751/pxe-e53-no-boot-filename-received
[07:53] <paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: these are 2 ntfs and 1 fat32
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> paulus68_1:  then as i said - you will most likely need to mount them from /etc/fstab with the right options to allow the shares to work
[07:54] <hitsujiTMO> roshan, looks like: http://youtu.be/7n5Z-GO84fk?t=1m19s
[07:54] <paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: thx
[07:54] <hitsujiTMO> ??
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> set up the shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:55] <ryan_turner|MTW> Favorite change from 13.04 -> 13.10? I guess the changes to "lens"es?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> lensi ;)
[07:56] <ryan_turner|MTW> oh and I guess really the Click format?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive notied tht
[07:56] <hitsujiTMO> Roshan : does it look like: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/library/BUSINESS/TALISMA/291.jpg  ??
[07:56] <ryan_turner|MTW> Im trying to decide if I should reinstall 13.04 or wait a few days for 13.10 release
[07:57] <Roshan> hitsujiTMO: ya ..
[07:57] <Roshan> exactly
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> ryan_turner|MTW:  or install 13.10 now - and update/upgrade on the 16th.. then wait a week to upgrade to the final
[07:58] <hitsujiTMO> roshan, thats your computer trying to boot from the network, its skipped over the USB
[07:58] <hitsujiTMO> whats the exact model of your laptop?
[07:58] <ryan_turner|MTW> Dr_Willis,  my last upgrade/date experience was bad, is this feature working well now?
[07:58] <Roshan> i set network at last ..
[07:58] <Roshan> USB in the second below HDD ..
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> ryan_turner|MTW:  i cant see why doing a upgrade to 13.10 final from 13.10 beta sould be any problems at all
[07:59] <Roshan> Dell Inspirion N4040
[07:59] <Ycarene> Is the usb plugged into a hub or direct to the computer?
[07:59] <ryan_turner|MTW> Dr_Willis,  should I just install the nightly?
[07:59] <ikonia> ryan_turner|MTW: why are you installing nightly builds ?
[08:00] <ikonia> what benifit do you hope to get ?
[08:00] <ryan_turner|MTW> ikonia,  razor baldes
[08:00] <ikonia> the final release is just days away.
[08:00] <ryan_turner|MTW> blades*
[08:00] <ryan_turner|MTW> Honestly Im just responding to Dr_Willis's advice...
[08:00] <ikonia> ryan_turner|MTW: razor blades is just a random phrase, nothing to do with the question I asked
[08:00] <ryan_turner|MTW> "cutting edge"
[08:00] <ikonia> ryan_turner|MTW: it's not though.....
[08:00] <ryan_turner|MTW> It was a joke.
[08:01] <ryan_turner|MTW> ikonia, I was responding to <Dr_Willis> ryan_turner|MTW:  or install 13.10 now - and update/upgrade on the 16th.. then wait a week to upgrade to the final
[08:01] <ikonia> I see.
[08:01] <jmgk> Anyone know the news that Steve Ballmer funded some Linux?
[08:01] <ryan_turner|MTW> I am not intimate with the project, especially near the end of QA lifecycle here
[08:01] <ryan_turner|MTW> so I dont know how "beta" "beta' is.
[08:01] <dixoncx> for info, Am using ubuntu 13.10 beta, updated..
[08:01] <ikonia> jmgk: nothing to do with this channel
[08:01] <jmgk> hm
[08:01] <bazhang> jmgk, thats not on topic here
[08:01] <jmgk> Oh sorry
[08:02] <jmgk> I just heard
[08:02] <jmgk> When is the new Ubuntu coming out?
[08:02] <bazhang> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:02] <bazhang> 10/17
[08:02] <jmgk> ok
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> ryan_turner|MTW:  i update/upgrade the day befor release.. then hang on for a week or 2 to upgrade to final because the servers are often so overloaded its nasty slow to do a install on release day. :)
[08:03] <worst> Does anyone have any idea how I would run monitors off my intel 4000 and my AMD 7970
[08:03] <hitsujiTMO> roshAn: when you boot hit f12    should give you the boot menu: is the usb there?
[08:04] <jmgk> hm
[08:04] <ikonia> worst: you'd need to run two x servers, you may not be able to use 3d acceleration in that config, but it's worth checking
[08:04] <Roshan> hitsujiTMo it s there ..
[08:04] <jmgk> Dr_Willis,  what is your IRC client
[08:04] <Roshan> i selected the USB storage
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  i use weechat, or andchat most of the time
[08:04] <worst> ikonia: On windows I'm able to render on my 7970 to the monitors plugged in to my intel
[08:04] <reisio> and andchat
[08:04] <reisio> and and
[08:04] <ikonia> worst you're not using windows.
[08:04] <jmgk> ah
[08:04] <hitsujiTMO> select it and if that doesnt boot the usb, then your usb is not bootable
[08:05] <jmgk> Wee chat is slow?
[08:05] <worst> ikonia: obviously. I was curious if this was possible.
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  why would you think that?
[08:05] <jmgk> oh
[08:05] <jmgk> well no I mean the scrolling isnt working for me
[08:05] <ikonia> worst: totally possible, however the capabilities/performance will depend very much on your card and it's linux support, and the linux modules that are compatible with your version of ubuntu
[08:05] <Roshan> jmgk: if Ballmer funds, he is only to sue Linux
[08:05] <ikonia> jmgk: well, you're on xchat now,
[08:05] <jmgk> uh
[08:06] <jmgk> I know
[08:06] <ikonia> Roshan: stop it
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  huh? ive no issues with weechat being slow. Im using it on a raspberyr pi right now (0.4.1 version) and this rather low end pi has no issues keeping it up :)
[08:06] <jmgk> haha Roshan
[08:06] <jmgk> oh I see. wow its that light Dr_Willis
[08:06] <worst> ikonia: I see. I've built and installed the proprietary amd drivers + used the intel installer
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  it did take it 5 hrs to compile on the pi. ;) but  thats because i wanted the latest versionb
[08:06] <jmgk> oh wow
[08:06] <Roshan> ikonia: Sorry . i was just pointing how evil ballmer is
[08:07] <jmgk> Roshan,  we Linux nerds know :)
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  there is a weechat android front end that connects to a weechat client running on a pc. and a qt gui front end  - but ive never used that.
[08:07] <ikonia> jmgk: you really don't know and you're loooking foolish making these comments, so please stop now.
[08:07] <jmgk> ah ok Dr_Willis  thanks for the tip. Ah cool QT GUI seems awesome aswell
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  ive no idea how well the gui is. or if its useable at all.
[08:08] <jmgk> oh
[08:08] <worst> ikonia: do you have any advice as where I should go with this?
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> I am using weechat on a console framebuffer (using fbterm) on my Raspberry PI right now.
[08:08] <jmgk> oh
[08:08] <ikonia> worst: well, what are you not actually sure on
[08:09] <worst> ikonia: currently monitors plugged into the intel just come up with a black screen
[08:09] <ikonia> worst: how have you got your xserver configured/laid out
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  weechat has some features that take a bit of learning to make maximum use of. :) but its worth the effort
[08:10] <worst> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cTGd9xxG
[08:10] <jmgk> Allritite I'll give it a shot Dr_Willis
[08:11] <ikonia> worst: there is no intel config in there, that's why there is nothing coming up, you only have the ati card configured
[08:11] <Roshan> HitsujiTMO : i think i can turn off boot to network option ..and see it works
[08:11] <ikonia> worst: this is two seperate cards right ? eg: two physical cards, or two onboards, etc.
[08:11] <worst> ikonia: Right. Odd thing is it has my monitor there (the one I can't activate)
[08:12] <worst> which is DFP5
[08:12] <ikonia> worst: not really odd, it can detect two monitors plugged in, however if you don't enable/configure the card it's plugged into, it can't send data to it
[08:12] <worst> it's an AMD 7970 and the intel built into my cpu
[08:12] <ikonia> worst: ahhh, it's one of these optimus type setups
[08:12] <ikonia> worst: is this a laptop ?
[08:12] <worst> ikonia: no it's not.
[08:13] <ikonia> worst: so there is a socket on the physical card, and a socket on the motherboard for video out ?
[08:13] <worst> ikonia: Yeah. I want to plug my 2 side monitors into my motherboard
[08:13] <ikonia> worst: so 3 monitors ?
[08:13] <worst> and my main to the 7970
[08:13] <worst> yeah
[08:14] <ikonia> worst: ok, so you'll need to configure 3 monitors, and configure your intel "card2
[08:14] <ikonia> "
[08:14] <Roshan> hitsujiTMo it s not PXE problem it sys mission operating system ..
[08:14] <hitsujiTMO> as i said, your usb is not bootable
[08:14] <hitsujiTMO> go redo it
[08:15] <worst> ikonia: would it be possible to add a new device with the busID of the onboard video, telling it to use the fglrx drivers?
[08:15] <ikonia> worst: errrr no
[08:15] <ikonia> worst: you'd have to add a new device and tell it to use the intel driver
[08:15] <ikonia> worst: (as you said your other "card" was intel)
[08:15] <worst> ikonia: yes, but intel onboard cards support rendering on the video card
[08:15] <Roshan> ya ..i will
[08:16] <ikonia> worst this is why you may lose some performance, as it depends on how well the two xorg modules co-operate in terms of moving 3d acceleration around the 3 displays
[08:16] <ikonia> worst: yes, you can render, but that doesn't mean "tell the intel card to use the ati driver" - that just won't work
[08:16] <worst> ikonia: I see, alright
[08:16] <Wug> Alright guys I'
[08:17] <Wug> I'm in some deep shit
[08:17] <ikonia> worst: tell each device to use the correct module get them working independently, then build a display config that spans all 3
[08:17] <ikonia> Wug: no need for that language, please stop
[08:17] <Wug> My packages are borken, and nothing I've tried has had any effect at all
[08:17] <bazhang> Wug, state the issue, with many more details
[08:17] <Wug> dpkg reports that initramfs-tools has broken dependencies and refuses to do anything
[08:17] <bazhang> !enter | Wug
[08:18] <gordonjcp> Wug: pastebin the error message *verbatim*
[08:18] <Wug> there are a lot of details, and irc has a line length limit :|
[08:18] <lolu> Wug: use pastebin
[08:18] <Wug> lolu: gordonjcp said that already
[08:18] <worst> ikonia: appreciate the info. I'll go play with this :)
[08:18] <Wug> gordonjcp: I'm getting to that. first up, the output of `apt-get -f install`
[08:19] <ikonia> worst: that's how I'd approach them - take them as 1 screen each, backup the config, then make a new config to get them to span
[08:19] <Wug> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6959763
[08:20] <Wug> I've googled around, and nothing I've thrown at it has made dpkg budge
[08:20] <worst> one more question: I have grub installed on sdc1 and in the mbr
[08:20] <worst> I have the truecrypt loader installed on my windows drive which my comp boots from
[08:20] <ikonia> again...hard disk encryption....problem.
[08:21] <worst> ikonia: I have multiple drives
[08:21] <worst> anyway, when I hit escape it boots into grub
[08:21] <worst> but only every other boot
[08:22] <worst> the other times I have to manually boot from SDC
[08:22] <worst> really odd
[08:22] <worst> it's as if it's turning off the boot flag
[08:22] <ikonia> worst: is grub on the mbr of the boot disk or the mbr of sdc ?
[08:23] <worst> SDC
[08:23] <worst> however truecrypt loader won't load from the mbr
[08:23] <worst> only from a partition
[08:23] <ikonia> worst: where is truecrypt loader installed ?
[08:24] <worst> mbr of boot drive
[08:24] <ikonia> worst: ok, so that sounds like a problem with truecyrpt
[08:24] <reisio> one of many
[08:24] <worst> ikonia: why would it happen every other time though? very odd
[08:24] <worst> ikonia: also it will always load my USB if it's plugged in
[08:25] <worst> ikonia: ubuntu it will proceed to grub every other boot, and the others say no bootable partition
[08:25] <ikonia> worst: I'd talk to the truecrypt support guys, this sort of nonsense is why I find it just a pile of junk
[08:25] <ikonia> worst: it's nothing to do with ubuntu - grub will always go to ubuntu, but if something is not chainloading into grub, then it's $sometihngs fault
[08:26] <mouses> grammar question - if my site says:  The word "ubuntu" is not in the dictionary. Do i need a comma after "word"? As in: The word, "ubuntu" is not in the dictionary. ?
[08:26] <worst> ikonia: Hm, alright. Only happens with ubuntu though
[08:26] <reisio> mouses: I would go so far as to say you need to not have a comma
[08:27] <ikonia> worst: well it doesn't, it only happens when truecrypt trues to boot sdc
[08:27] <reisio> mouses: #linguistics
[08:27] <Roshan> hitsujiTMO .. i tried with universal USB Intaller ..and it didnt help ..
[08:27] <Roshan> any good tolls..
[08:28] <hitsujiTMO> try a different installer
[08:28] <Roshan> tools??
[08:28] <hitsujiTMO> what os are you doing it from?
[08:28] <buu> mouses: no you don't.
[08:28] <mouses> thanks
[08:28]  * Wug pokes gordonjcp 
[08:29] <mowgl3y> Hi #ubuntu
[08:30] <jmgk> Greetings mowgl3y
[08:30] <reisio> mowgl3y: oobie doo
[08:30] <mowgl3y> i have an aws ubuntu instance on which i just set local using local-gen. now my apt-get update 'security' branch fails.
[08:31] <joobz> guys, i have a startup script that lives in /etc/init.d which works fine.. i want it to only start and stop in runlevel 5 though
[08:31] <joobz> is there an easy way to do this with Ubuntu?
[08:31] <mowgl3y> how to get around this issue? i am on the ap-southeast region and i set my local to en_US
[08:31] <ikonia> joobz: runlevel 5 doesn't exist on ubuntu
[08:31] <joobz> oh
[08:31] <ikonia> joobz: the whole init system is different, scripts should not be in /etc/init.d either
[08:31] <joobz> i am in runlevel 2
[08:32] <joobz> well "N 2"
[08:32] <joobz> based on "runlevel"
[08:32] <ikonia> joobz: yes, that is the "only" run level in ubuntu
[08:32] <joobz> i want it to run in this level only
[08:32] <joobz> oh
[08:32] <FloodBot1> joobz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:32] <ikonia> joobz: there is no other run level in real terms
[08:32] <joobz> ok let me describe the issue then :P there may be a better fix :P
[08:32] <joobz> i have a service that needs to start with a delay
[08:32] <Roshan> hitsujiTMO: from Windwos 8
[08:32] <joobz> i need the system to boot then wait like 5 seconds and start.. is that possible?
[08:32] <Guest7129> in the installer, when I choose "Guided - Use entire disk", does it create a separate /home for me?
[08:32] <ikonia> joobz: you could just put "sleep 5" at the start of that script, or you could put the correct upstart depends.
[08:33] <joobz> i tried a sleep in the init script but it seemed to ignore it, might be my stuff up - but was thinking is there a more elegant way to do this
[08:33] <reisio> Guest7129: does it matter
[08:33] <Guest7129> reisio: yes?
[08:33] <Wug> Guest7129: the autopilot on the installer gives you 1 partition
[08:33] <reisio> Guest7129: no :)
[08:33] <hitsujiTMO> roshan: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ has never faulted on me
[08:33] <joobz> OK i think the sleep was my stuff up
[08:33] <joobz> put it up top and it worked
[08:33] <joobz> let's see if this works...
[08:33] <Guest7129> reisio: maybe not to you, but to me it does matter :)
[08:33] <joobz> hacky way, but it'll do.. just for my media center
[08:34] <reisio> Guest7129: nah
[08:34] <hitsujiTMO> joobz: at what point exactly do you need it it wait?
[08:34] <Guest7129> Wug: ah so no separate /home if i choose "use entire disk"?
[08:34] <hitsujiTMO> joobz: whats the earliest point?
[08:34] <Wug> Guest7129: that's correct
[08:34] <Guest7129> reisio: care to explain why not?
[08:34] <Guest7129> Wug: thanks!
[08:34] <Wug> I believe none of the default options will give you more than one partition
[08:34] <Roshan> hitsujiTMo upto now Universal is good
[08:34] <Wug> if you want multiple you have to set them up yourself
[08:35] <reisio> Guest7129: doesn't get you anything
[08:35] <Guest7129> Wug: and if i select a partition to mount as /boot/efi will it do the right thing and set it up as EFI System Partition?
[08:35] <hitsujiTMO> Roshan: if this still doesnt work, make sure to try a different usb port, then try a different usb stick, then finally its would have to be a setting in your bios
[08:35] <Wug> Guest7129: that one I'm not sure about, I haven't dealt with the installer since before EFI was really a thing
[08:35] <reisio> doubt it
[08:36]  * Wug champions https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6959763
[08:36] <faugusztin> joobz: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html > Writing Jobs > start on and stop on
[08:36] <Wug> don't all start shouting solutions all at once now
[08:40] <reisio> Wug: solutions!
[08:42] <Wug> I have this unpleasant suspicion that if I reboot my laptop, it won't start
[08:42] <Wug> does anyone have any idea at all how to troubleshoot borked packages, or should I go to bed and try again tomorrow
[08:45] <Roshan> hello, chromium oxide and Qr's QTview?
[08:49] <Slotrdc> Někdo nějakou radu s NB ASUS a nefunkční Wifi v U13.04?
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> !pl | Slotrdc
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> !cz | Slotrdc
[08:50] <eer> What is the stard way on Ubuntu to stop a service? sudo /etc/init.d/<servicename> <start/stop/etc> or sudo service <servicename> <start/stop/etc> ?
[08:51] <chrisward> eer, I believe it's service
[08:51] <chrisward> many init.d scripts will tell you to use service, as well
[08:51] <Wug> eer: I may be wrong, but I believe using init.d is the old way, and upstart is the new way
[08:52] <eer> upstart? is service <servicename> <start/stop> the upstart way?
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | eer
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> Wug: tnx for hint mate
[08:52] <Wug> lotuspsychje: I'll trade you
[08:52] <Wug> I have borken packages. what do? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6959763
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> Wug: whats your ubuntu version?
[08:53] <chrisward> apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:53] <Wug> chrisward: it does the same thing
[08:53] <Malinux> my laptop won̈́'t suspend when I close the laptop lid. After closer investigation I figured out the /etc/acpi/lid.sh script dosen't run at all
[08:54] <Wug> most commands I can do via apt do that right now
[08:54] <eer> What is the stardard way to remove a disable the start of a service in Ubuntu? I mean even after the next reboot?
[08:54] <Wug> lotuspsychje: 13.10
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> !13.10 | Wug
[08:55] <Wug> the package snafu bomb exploded when dist upgrading from an older version
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> Wug: we support currently version from topic mate
[08:55] <Wug> yeah I know, if you want I'll swing by on thursday with exactly the same question, and the answer won't be any different probably
[08:56] <Duzzy> Hi, when I ssh to my ubuntu 12.04 server my putty instantly closes if I succeffully gets logged in. If i enter wrong pass, it says so and I can enter it again. Anyone has an idea why it behaves like this?
[08:56] <Wug> Duzzy: what's your shell set to
[08:56] <Duzzy>  /bin/bash
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> eer: you'd prob modify it's upstart script
[08:56] <Wug> and is ssh configured not to let you get to it
[08:56] <Duzzy> I don't know, how can I check that?
[08:57] <popey> Wug: you dist-upgraded from what release to 13.10?
[08:58] <Wug> popey: precise I think
[08:58] <buu> Duzzy: Can you ssh from a different machine/client?
[08:58] <popey> Wug: we dont recommend that
[08:58] <Duzzy> Yes
[08:58] <Duzzy> I can
[08:58] <popey> Wug: however, try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" (note the ^)
[08:58] <buu> Duzzy: Preferably with a non putty interface =]
[08:58] <popey> Wug: this may pull in the necessary bits to make it right
[08:59] <ikonia> popey: what difference does the ^ make ?
[08:59] <popey> installs the task
[08:59] <Wug> exact same error
[08:59] <Duzzy> Yeah I can do that, so I just need to know what to do to make this right, I can excute commands, so thats no prob
[08:59] <popey> pulls in deps
[08:59] <Roshan> HitsujiTMO: :)
[08:59] <ikonia> popey: why would it not pull in deps without the ^
[08:59] <popey> Wug: we don't recommend what you've done, you're flying somewhat blind because we _never_ test this scenario
[08:59] <hitsujiTMO> well what was the problem roshan?
[08:59] <ikonia> or have I missed some background
[08:59] <Wug> well, not quite exactly the same
[08:59] <popey> ikonia: because without ^ you're installing a meta package which wont pull in deps
[08:59] <Wug> it complains about more packages
[09:00] <Wug> ok, switching gears
[09:00] <ikonia> popey: no, but each package has depends, so it should filter down ?
[09:00] <popey> no
[09:00] <popey> try it sometime ☻
[09:00] <ikonia> what ? then what's the point of the meta-pacage
[09:00] <ikonia> package
[09:00] <popey> without the hat it's near useless
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> popey: you still contribute to kazam?
[09:00] <popey> lotuspsychje: not recently
[09:00] <ikonia> I've never had a meta-package not pull in the dependencies for the packages it's referencing
[09:01] <popey> still use it though
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> duzzy: I recommend installing cygwin to get al alternative ssh client: and add the -v flag as you're connecting
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> popey: ok tnx, yeah great package!
[09:01] <en> Hi Everyone, There is a customized LiveCD which has my wanted screen resolution. Which folder sholud I copy to my system to has those settings. Please don't tell me the only way is xorg.conf.d and xorg.conf creation because they are not working. The live system also works without them as well.
[09:01] <popey> en: if editing xorg.conf "doesn't work" then you're Doing It Wrong ☻
[09:02] <ikonia> "customized livecd" speaks volumes
[09:02] <popey> en: what video card does your machine have?
[09:04] <Wug> popey: here's the output of dpkg --configure -a https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6960057
[09:04] <en> popey - Five linux master agreed from the irc channel they told me how to do it trust me.
[09:06] <popey> en: the answer is still to craft a good xorg.conf if the video card misbehaves, whether you believe it isn't or not is largely moot.
[09:06] <en> popey ati radeon 9600
[09:06] <popey> Wug: apt-cache policy texlive-base
[09:07] <Wug> popey: texlive-base:  Installed: 2009-15  Candidate: 2013.20130722-1  Version table:     2013.20130722-1 0        500 http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386Packages *** 2009-15 0        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[09:08] <Wug> if you need it with newlines say something and ill gist it
[09:09] <minimec> en: I still have an old HP laptop that has this old radeon 9600 in it. That card should make any problems... It uses the open source driver... What special resolution do you need?
[09:09] <minimec> en: + not ;)
[09:09] <en> minimec 1366x768
[09:09] <Schalla> Good morning! When I made a disk image of my hdd with DD, can I compare the integrity soemhow?
[09:10] <Schalla> over md5 hashs e.g.?
[09:10] <minimec> en: And a normal ubuntu live disk doesn't give you that resolution?
[09:10] <Wug> Schalla: dd bails if it encounters an error, so if it succeeded then it copied exactly what was on the disk
[09:10] <Schalla> Wug: Alright. It was a 320GiB HDD; so I worried a bit :)
[09:11] <Schalla> took 8 or 9 hours^^
[09:11] <Wug> yeah its fair to worry
[09:11] <Wug> but I'd say if the image is the size you wanted it, then there should be no errors
[09:11] <Wug> if it's truncated, it might have bailed early, but it would probably have printed something
[09:11] <en> 1280x720 followed by 1920x1080 in 16:9 aspect ratio
[09:12] <en> first is too big second is too small
[09:12] <Wug> popey: are you still there? googling intensely maybe, or perhaps using your vast neckbeard to scan man pages?
[09:13] <popey> Wug: yeah
[09:13] <popey> Wug: do you use tex/lex?
[09:13] <Ycarene> Does google play work at all in ubuntu?
[09:14] <Wug> popey: I haven't lately. I tried removing them, but that just changes the list of packages it claims are broken
[09:14] <popey> Wug: might be quicker/easier to remove all those tex packages to get you back to a consistent state
[09:14] <minimec> en: strange... Try to add the resolution once to xrandr. Read post #24 from this thread. Even though it is for a different kind of screen, the commands should be the same. Maybe change to 'gtf 1366 768 60.0
[09:14] <popey> hah
[09:14] <Myrtti> Ycarene: in what sense?
[09:14] <minimec> en: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1321200#p1321200
[09:14] <Wug> I stopped trying to remove packages to make it fix itself when it wanted me to remove all of my kernels
[09:14] <popey> Wug: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and all of the .list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[09:15] <en> It's working session by session but I want it Permanent
[09:16] <Wug> popey: you know, I just found something in sources.lst.d that still points to precise
[09:17] <Wug> let me take a whack at changing that to see if it unbreaks thing
[09:17] <Wug> though it shouldn't I dont think, one is precise and the other is natty
[09:18] <popey> this is yet another reason we don't recommend upgrades done the way you did it
[09:18] <Wug> I upgraded with sed because I'm a terrible person.
[09:18] <Ben64> yep, your system is broken now
[09:18] <Schalla> Wug: Well lsblk says 298,1GB HDD Size and Windows 7 says 298GB Filezize, so it should be fine :)
[09:19] <Wug> it worked on my other system
[09:19] <popey> Wug: ahh, your experience of 100% success seems to have coloured your expectations
[09:19] <Wug> which I also pulled from precise to saucy, using the same process
[09:19] <popey> Wug: at least your upgrade experience is now 50%.
[09:19] <Wug> packages did break, so I expected them to here
[09:19] <Wug> but I was able to fix them there
[09:20] <Ben64> why not just upgrade the way that won't break everything
[09:20] <popey> yeah, its a fun exercise to do if you have half a day to muck about putting it right
[09:20] <Ben64> or wait 6 more months for 14.04
[09:20] <popey> "restore from backup" etc
[09:20] <njsg> popey: well, if you try, you learn
[09:20] <popey> njsg: you dont need to, we already know this way is fraught with danger, but feel free ☻
[09:21] <Ben64> if it worked, it would be the recommended way to upgrade
[09:21] <popey> njsg: byproduct is people then spout on their blogs that "ubuntu upgrades don't work" (well duh, yeah, they absolutely don't if you go off-piste) ☻
[09:21] <Wug> hey, I can remove packages with dpkg
[09:21] <Ben64> i've never had an upgrade not work, from edgy eft to precise pangolin
[09:21]  * popey stops chatting in the support channel.
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> njsg: i agree everybody trys something that goes wrong one day, to learn out of it
[09:22] <SupaSol> hello here
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> SupaSol: welcome what can we do for you?
[09:22] <njsg> lotuspsychje: I'd support doing that every day of our lives :-)
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> njsg: great attitude :p
[09:23] <SupaSol> thank you, nothing for the moment im juste here for reading what people say and learn few things :)
[09:25] <Administrateur> Hello! Is there anyone on right now to help with a technical question?
[09:25] <buu> No, we're all on break.
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> CosmicCalamity: shoot your issue mate
[09:26] <CosmicCalamity> It's quite possible you all are ;)
[09:26] <njsg> well, I don't have a job on weekends, so I *am*, technically, on a break
[09:27] <CosmicCalamity> I installed Ubuntu and get all the way through install. Make it to the log in screen and then I get no desktop....Just a pink snowstorm. I'm thinking graphics issue but no clue how to resolve it.
[09:27] <buu> CosmicCalamity: Can you switch to a console with alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-f1?
[09:28] <CosmicCalamity> Yes, but then I can type in Admin name but not able to type in password in prompt.
[09:28] <Myrtti> CosmicCalamity: what makes you think you're not able to type the password?
[09:28] <Myrtti> CosmicCalamity: on the console you don't get asterisks to cover the password, it just is blank
[09:28] <CosmicCalamity> Nothing shows on the screen and Enter just gives me an incorrect password error.
[09:28] <hitsujiTMO> CosmicCalamity: what version of unbuntu and what graphics card?
[09:28] <buu> CosmicCalamity: Are you using the right account name?
[09:29] <buu> And, you know, typing the right password
[09:29] <Myrtti> if enter gives you incorrect password, then you typed it wrong ;-)
[09:29] <CosmicCalamity> I know that I typed the password correctly (many times over LOL)
[09:29] <popey> wrong keyboard layout?
[09:29] <minimec> CosmicCalamity: the password is not shown. Als the cursor would not move during the password. Aslo check if you activated the CapsLock key.
[09:30] <CosmicCalamity> I tried it with my current EU layout and asa US layout.
[09:30] <hitsujiTMO> CosmicCalamity: type your password as the username and see if it matches what you wrote
[09:31] <njsg> CosmicCalamity: what is "Admin"?
[09:31] <CosmicCalamity> Should I be using a version anterieur to 12 or 13? I did that the first time and it did match. So, not sure why it wasn't recognized. I'll try it again.
[09:31] <CosmicCalamity> Administrateur was my default user name
[09:31] <hitsujiTMO> also, username should be all lowercase
[09:31] <njsg> CosmicCalamity: you set it that way, then enter it that way
[09:31] <njsg> hitsujiTMO: is it converted to lower-case?
[09:32] <njsg> I always assumed it'd be case-sensitive
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> njsg: well ubuntu server gives out if you try and enter upper case chars, so i'd presume its the same for ubuntu desktop
[09:34] <CosmicCalamity> Ok...I'm going to reinstall and try the 12.04.3.  If I can get to the ctrl+alt+F1 screen and logged in. What should I do then?
[09:34] <popey> reinstall is a bit of a sledgehammer
[09:34] <CosmicCalamity> And sorry if I sound like an idiot. This is my first foray into a non-windows environment.
[09:34] <popey> CosmicCalamity: its cool, we were all there once
[09:34] <hitsujiTMO> mjsg: OK, i'm wrong: just did useradd Moo && cat /etc/passwd    ... Moo is there
[09:35] <CosmicCalamity> Perhaps it is popey but I wanted a clean slate since I was trying things this way and that and not sure what did what.
[09:35] <popey> ok ☻
[09:36] <CosmicCalamity> Ok...need to change a diaper (not mine *giggle giggle snort*). Then I'll proceed with reinstall and see what I see. I'll be back. :)
[09:48] <xtriz> if i want to install kubuntu on top of ubuntu, then installing kubuntu-desktop will install all the defaults of kubuntu desktop ?
[09:48] <bekks> xtriz: No, it will just install all the packages installed in kubuntu.
[09:50] <schnitzl> hi. how to (suggest) to add software to the original software repositories of ubuntu.
[09:51] <bekks> schnitzl: So which software are you missing?
[09:51] <schnitzl> an rts game.
[09:51] <bekks> I bet it has a name.
[09:52] <schnitzl> openra it is called. i am a big fan, and since there are very few rts games, this might be a nice additional feature.
[09:52] <xtriz> bekks, then how can i get the default config like we have in kubuntu ?
[09:52] <xtriz> installing kubuntu ?
[09:53] <bekks> xtriz: There is nothing like "the default config file" - after starting your very first kde-based application, technically you start configuring it, because your personal configs are written, etc.
[09:53] <minimec> schnitzl: Well at least there are ubuntu/debian packages available on the game homepage.
[09:54] <bekks> xtriz: Just install kubuntu-desktop on your ubuntu, and you will bbe fine.
[09:54] <xtriz> bekks, so installing kubuntu-full  ?
[09:54] <schnitzl> minimec:  thats not the task ;)
[09:54] <bekks> xtriz: No, just read what I just said :)
[09:54] <xtriz> bekks, ok
[09:54] <schnitzl> bekks: any suggestions then?
[09:55] <bekks> schnitzl: you may submit a bug report as feature request, e.g.
[09:55] <bekks> schnitzl: If that isnt a valid way for feature requests, you will be told then.
[09:55] <bazhang> schnitzl, just make a PPA
[09:55] <schnitzl> no. thats not the task bazhang
[09:56] <bekks> schnitzl: thats the first step after creating a feature request :)
[09:56] <bazhang> schnitzl, far better of chance of spreading it than what you propose
[09:56] <schnitzl> the idea is to drag more players. i think this project has not the attention it deserves. + ubuntu has very few rts games listed. would be a win win
[09:56] <schnitzl> it alwready has a PPA
[09:56] <bazhang> so let it gather momentum
[09:57] <NewToThis> I cant change my wireless card from mode : managed to monitor
[09:57] <bazhang> NewToThis, what chipset
[09:57] <schnitzl> okay. thank you guys.
[09:57] <NewToThis> Broadcom 802.11
[09:57] <Wug> I am become death, destroyer of ubuntu
[09:58] <bazhang> Wug, take it elsewhere
[09:58] <njsg> NewToThis: which drivers?
[09:58] <Wug> bazhang: this is a continuation of my package issues
[09:58] <bazhang> Wug, its adding noise, so dont
[09:58] <njsg> NewToThis: only one of broadcom open drivers and broadcom proprietary drivers can do monitor, I don't remember which one
[09:59] <NewToThis> should i tell u the error im getting?
[09:59] <bazhang> NewToThis, whats the exact command you are using
[09:59] <njsg> NewToThis: definitely
[10:00] <NewToThis> the commands im using are ----> ifconfig wlan0 down
[10:00] <NewToThis> then
[10:00] <NewToThis> ifconfig wlan0 mode monitor
[10:00] <NewToThis> then turn it bak on
[10:01] <minimec> NewToThis: You have to configure the 'wireless' device with 'iwconfig'
[10:02] <minimec> NewToThis: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor'
[10:04] <NewToThis> I tried it rite now..
[10:04] <NewToThis> now i get --->
[10:04] <NewToThis> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[10:04] <NewToThis>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
[10:04] <minimec> NewToThis: So either the card or the driver so not support 'monitor mode'
[10:04] <dveim> when ubuntu 13.10 will be released?
[10:04] <cgtdk> 17th iirc
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> dveim  next week
[10:05] <dveim> mm, good
[10:05] <NewToThis> do u noe where i can go to get Broadcom drivers? (that can monitor?)
[10:05] <cgtdk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[10:05] <minimec> NewToThis: Can you give me the output of 'lspci | grep Network' ?
[10:05] <bekks> !wifi | NewToThis
[10:06] <NewToThis> Here let me give u the output _---->
[10:06] <foofoobar> Hi. My screen on my notebook is dimmed after a few seconds. How can I increase the time interval until it is dimmed
[10:06] <NewToThis>  
[10:06] <NewToThis> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller (rev 09)
[10:06] <NewToThis> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)
[10:06] <NewToThis> 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller (rev 04)
[10:06] <NewToThis> 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
[10:06] <FloodBot1> NewToThis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> foofoobar  system setings > power
[10:08] <foofoobar> MonkeyDust, I can just deactive it
[10:08] <foofoobar> and not set the time
[10:09] <foofoobar> (ubuntu 12.04)
[10:11] <worst> Hey, I'm trying to setup a multi-monitor setup with monitors plugged into different video cards
[10:11] <helpmewithmywifi> i have a netgear something usb wifi and its not working, any ideas?
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> !details | helpmewithmywifi
[10:12] <helpmewithmywifi> hold on im about to lsusb
[10:12] <minimec> helpmewithmywifi: Ok. Let's figure out what 'something' you have. Check lsusb and look for the device.
[10:12] <helpmewithmywifi> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0846:9012 NetGear, Inc. WNDA4100 802.11abgn 3x3:3 [Ralink RT3573]
[10:13] <helpmewithmywifi> now i have looked into compile from source on ralink rt3573
[10:14] <helpmewithmywifi> i have been at this for 4 days now btw
[10:15] <NewToThis> so does anyone know a driver from 43b1 that supports mode : monitor??
[10:18] <helpmewithmywifi> hello?
[10:18] <sophie_> Hi
[10:18] <helpmewithmywifi> can you help me with my wifi?
[10:18] <minimec> helpmewithmywifi: Compiling the driver yourself seems to be the right idea.
[10:19] <helpmewithmywifi> minimec: thats what i thought, its just above my skill Lv  also dose not help that i have an armhf cpu
[10:21] <sophie_> helpmewithmywifi, A what cpu?
[10:21] <drmagoo> helpmewithmywifi, http://askubuntu.com/questions/295533/ralink-rt3573-chipset-not-working-with-ralink-linux-driver-for-that-chipset-wha
[10:21] <helpmewithmywifi> arm hardfloat
[10:22] <minimec> helpmewithmywifi: arnhf should not change the procedure. install the kernel headers and build essential: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential' Not sure about headers-generic. That might be different depending your kernel.
[10:23] <helpmewithmywifi> ok hold on im going to read that webpage i may have not seen that one before.
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> helpmewithmywifi  tip: there's also #ubuntu-arm
[10:23] <jost> One of my machines should receive its IP via DHCP, but use a default gateway that is not the DHCP server. How do I do that?
[10:24] <helpmewithmywifi> ok yes i have seen that webpage before
[10:25] <helpmewithmywifi> how to check the kernel-headers that i shall need
[10:25] <virtuaposta> jost, mac-binding!? or please details the requirement
[10:25] <virtuaposta> jost, mac-binding!? or please detail the requirement
[10:26] <minimec> helpmewithmywifi: uname -a gives you 'your kernel'. Now check the repository for 'your kernel'. If the kernel is from an external deb repo, check that repo for the headers deb
[10:27] <helpmewithmywifi> ok
[10:28] <minimec> helpmewithmywifi: If 'your kernel' has 'generic' in it, install the generic headers...
[10:28] <helpmewithmywifi> it dose not
[10:28] <minimec> helpmewithmywifi: So you need the headers matching your kernel number exactly.
[10:29] <helpmewithmywifi> apt-get
[10:29] <hitsujiTMO> helpmewithmywifi: whats the output of uname -r
[10:29] <jost> virtuaposta: there are two routers in my network, both having internet access. The first one also runs a DHCP server. My machine should get its IP (and DNS servers etc) from that router, but use the second one as gateway. The second router has a fixed IP.
[10:30] <Wug> helpmewithmywifi: protip: /exec -o uname -r
[10:30] <Wug> executes the command and pipes the output to the current channel
[10:30] <Wug> uname -r is just one line
[10:31] <sophie_> This should be a quickly answerable question: I have a shell script on my desktop that cancels out mouse acceleration when I run it, how can I get it to run automatically at each boot up?
[10:31] <helpmewithmywifi> 3.6.11+
[10:31] <ikonia> I doubt that
[10:32] <hitsujiTMO> jost: what type of router is the DHCP ? brand + model plz
[10:32] <ikonia> helpmewithmywifi: hang on is this a raspbery pi
[10:32] <Wug> ikonia: a raspberry pi with wifi?
[10:32] <ikonia> Wug: ...just wait
[10:32] <ikonia> Wug: he said it's a usb dongle
[10:32] <helpmewithmywifi> yes it is
[10:32] <ikonia> helpmewithmywifi: there we go - then you are not running ubuntu
[10:32] <Wug> good call
[10:33] <BluesKaj_> Hi folks
[10:33] <minimec> sophie_: open 'gnome-session-properties' and add it as startup program for the current user.
[10:33] <cfhowlett> ikonia is strong with the force tonight!
[10:33] <Wug> I think I've fixed my packages
[10:33] <hitsujiTMO> helpmewithmywifi: whats the output of uname -a
[10:33] <ikonia> cfhowlett: I certainly have my obiwan beard
[10:33] <gulag2013> sophie_,  "Startup Application" I'm not much help, I just didn't want you feeling unheard.
[10:33] <sophie_> minimec, I'm using unity
[10:34] <jost> hitsujiTMO: AVM Fritzbox 7312 is the one with DHCP, the other one is an easybox 904 LTE
[10:34] <rannonga> hi BluesKaj_
[10:34] <helpmewithmywifi> Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #538 PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 20:42:08 BST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
[10:34] <ikonia> you are not running ubuntu
[10:34] <BluesKaj_> hi rannonga
[10:34] <sophie_> gulag2013, Ah I found it, thanks both :)
[10:34] <minimec> sophie_: open a terminal and type gnome-session-properties in it. It should work with unity too
[10:35] <sophie_> minimec, Ah yes it takes me to the same place as "startup applications"
[10:35] <minimec> helpmewithmywifi: 'apt-cache search 3.6.11' Do you see a header deb?
[10:36] <ikonia> he's not running ubuntu
[10:36] <helpmewithmywifi> hold on
[10:36] <ikonia> this is not for this channel, helpmewithmywifi you are not running ubuntu
[10:37] <hitsujiTMO> jost: it seems your router will only assign the gateway as itself, so what you're asking is not possible
[10:37] <helpmewithmywifi> apt-cache search 3.6.11  shows nothing
[10:37] <ikonia> helpmewithmywifi: you are not actually running ubuntu
[10:37] <helpmewithmywifi> ikonia you cant help me?
[10:37] <ikonia> helpmewithmywifi: so advice from this channel will be wrong
[10:38] <ikonia> helpmewithmywifi: join the channel for the OS you are running
[10:38] <helpmewithmywifi> what do i do?
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> helpmewithmywifi  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[10:38] <ikonia> helpmewithmywifi: join the IRC channel that supports your distro
[10:38] <virtuaposta> Hi jost, sorry for delayed reply as my internet connection is wacky at the moment, you can use "option router xx.xx.xx.xx"  with mac binded host under host host_name { .. rest conf ..} hope this will help... thought hitsujiTMO? asking as i also never tried this.. can you give it a try jost
[10:38] <jost> hitsujiTMO: and on ubuntu side? Is it possible  to override the gateway sent by the router? Simply adding "gateway x.y.z.w" to the interface config does not work
[10:38] <sophie_> Doesn't Ras Pi run form of Debian?
[10:38] <DJones> !alis | helpmewithmywifi
[10:38] <ikonia> sophie_: yes, there are quite a few variations for it
[10:38] <virtuaposta> from ubuntu side/ client ubuntu side it is possible jost
[10:39] <minimec> helpmewithmywifi: ikonia is right. I mean this is the ubuntu channel not the raspvberry-pi channel. But... You only need to install the correct headers and follow that 'ask ubuntu' link. That should do to compile the driver.
[10:39] <helpmewithmywifi> $ cat /etc/issue
[10:39] <helpmewithmywifi> Raspbian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l
[10:40] <ikonia> use the Raspbian support channel helpmewithmywifi
[10:40] <hitsujiTMO> jost: can you not just use static networking on ubuntu client?
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> helpmewithmywifi  then you're not in the right channel, that's why you're not getting an answer here
[10:40] <helpmewithmywifi> i didnt know they had that
[10:40] <helpmewithmywifi> ./join rasberrypi ?
[10:41] <minimec> helpmewithmywifi: /join #raspberrypi
[10:41] <hitsujiTMO> jost: is the ubuntu machine running ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop?
[10:41] <virtuaposta> jost, from client side you can use "route add default gateway_ip_here"
[10:42] <helpmewithmywifi> #raspberrypi :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[10:42] <jost> hitsujiTMO: yes, static networking works. But that would leave DNS unconfigured, which would be another manual config. The machine runs ubuntu server
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> helpmewithmywifi  type    /join #raspbian    <-- 200+ people there
[10:42] <Wug> helpmewithmywifi: see also register a nickserv account and join
[10:43] <DJones> !register | helpmewithmywifi Sounds like you need to register your nickname,
[10:43] <helpmewithmywifi> it works
[10:43] <helpmewithmywifi> thanks guys
[10:43] <minimec> helpmewithmywifi: Are you using raspbian? there is an official #raspbian channel on freenode. so /jin #raspbian. #raspberrypi is innofficial an needs freenode membershiop
[10:43] <hitsujiTMO> jost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230633/ in /etc/network/interfaces  should work, otherwise try what virtuaposta has suggested
[10:44] <jost> hitsujiTMO: thats what I've tried, does not work :(
[10:44] <hitsujiTMO> then try what virtuaposta has suggested: route add default gw xx.xx.xx.xx
[10:45] <virtuaposta> jost, you restarted networking after applying the changes right? no just confirming :)
[10:46] <jost> virtuaposta: of course :-)
[10:47] <jost> Ok, got it
[10:47] <hitsujiTMO> jost if you want full control of your dchp and the server is always on i'd suggest setting the server as static ip, and running a dhcp server on that
[10:47] <virtuaposta> congrats jost !!
[10:48] <jost> virtuaposta: hitsujiTMO: Thanks to both of you
[10:48] <hitsujiTMO> np
[10:48] <jost> what did it was "route add default gw x.y.z.w eth0", and "route del default gw fritz.box eth0" afterwards
[10:52] <IamTrying> My system crash with file system issue cant write to disk. How can i rollback to static installation ? Like windows users use DeepFreeze or Restore point like applications.
[10:53] <IamTrying> Ubuntu is there any package free/commercial which allow static restore on every reboot? like windows has DeepFreeze or Restore point
[10:53] <virtuaposta> IamTrying, fresh installation or existing system under issues?
[10:54] <virtuaposta> recent logs please..
[10:54] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, fresh installation like stable setup.
[10:55] <virtuaposta> IamTrying, how about fresh install with new disk, sometimes installation disks are under issues during burning process... or quickest way is to put live CD/USB and process with rescue mode
[10:55] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, http://i.stack.imgur.com/GIRKY.jpg
[10:56] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, i have system setup locally, and send to remote locations, remotely i do not have myself physically to do CD/USB stuffs. I need to setup something like on every reboot it goes to my stable setup
[10:56] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, in Windows XP, 7 - they have applicaiton like DeepFreeze it always on reboot goes back to stable setup
[10:56] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, Is there no application in Ubuntu which can do such? No matter what it goes on reboot to my static restore point?
[10:58] <virtuaposta> did this happened during openfire installation?
[10:59] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, NO it just happening when i boot my system.
[10:59] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, right now i can write to my disk but moment i start programming its happening
[10:59] <IamTrying> so i cant write anything to my disk after starting to programming using NetBeans or Eclipse or Gedit or even Terminal
[11:00] <virtuaposta> let me check those logs again IamTrying! please wait and meanwhile I am sure somebody surely will come-up with quick answer to this... give me few minutes please
[11:01] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, OK - waiting. Its very stress-full error, happening suddenly every time
[11:04] <rannonga> that makes no sense
[11:04] <virtuaposta> hmm I doubt this is hardware issue IamTrying! you need to run checks over disk and memory..
[11:05] <virtuaposta> "fsck"
[11:05] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, memchk is OK , fsck is OK , after fixing with fsck it again happening
[11:07] <ed__> Does anyone have Ubunto 10.04 on an Acer Revo RL70 with AMD E350 processor with Skype working?
[11:07] <cfhowlett> ed__, as 10.04 is end of life, I'd guess no.
[11:07] <hitsujiTMO> 10.04 is not supported
[11:08] <hitsujiTMO> ed__, any particular reason why you want to run such an old OS?
[11:08] <virtuaposta> IamTrying then I am afraid that you need someone who can run live cd on remote location and perform "check disk for defects" and "test memory" operations.. may other guys can guide you more in this.. will let you know if I am with any help in this
[11:08] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230728/ - virtuaposta
[11:09] <ed__> What about Mint 13 64 bit on the RL70 with working Skype?
[11:09] <cfhowlett> ed__, and mint has it's own support channel.  this is ubuntu.
[11:09] <cfhowlett> !mint
[11:10] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, after boot what i use is 1) chromium-browser 2) terminal / vim 3) gedit 4) for git hub commit sometimes netBeans ide or eclipse for python gtk
[11:10] <virtuaposta> it is clearly hard-disk issue IamTrying, as it is turning read-only.. also please make sure if disk is not 100% full, wait for others responses as well
[11:10] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, now in step 2 that occures already
[11:10] <Atluxity> How can I have my apt-get download the source for a package in 13.10 when I am running 13.04? I just want this for 1 download
[11:10] <Atluxity> I am trying to fix a bug in a 13.10 package
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> IamTrying: whats the output of: mount
[11:10] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, df -h is showing i only used 24% of disk
[11:11] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230742/  - hitsujiTMO
[11:11] <virtuaposta> IamTrying, output from your log : EXT4-fs warning (device sda1): ext4_end_bio:250: I/O error writing to inode 16646166
[11:11] <virtuaposta> disk is under issues and fsck might have failed.. please re-run it
[11:12] <lolu> Atluxity: you can add the deb-src line of 13.10 to your sources.list
[11:12] <Atluxity> thanks lolu
[11:12] <lolu> Atluxity: just the deb-src remember.
[11:13] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, fsck after reboot i ran and manually i fixed the errors, since then i am now in ubuntu, but after some time it automagically again occures
[11:13] <IamTrying> virtuaposta, could it be a GROUPS issue like fuse ?
[11:13] <hitsujiTMO> IamTrying: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[11:14] <Atluxity> lolu: yes, I just needed a reminder that I could only specify deb-src :) thanks
[11:14] <hitsujiTMO> iamtrying: plz run: sudo smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sda
[11:15] <virtuaposta> no IamTrying, if its groups issue then the error will be like "permission denied" but its write failure.. you need to change the hard-disk.. but please consult with others here in channel.. someone might be having better solution or workaround atleast
[11:15] <IamTrying> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230753/
[11:16] <IamTrying> hitsujiTMO, virtuaposta: FYI - wild guess. i have noticed its happening since i installed VritualBox with Windows XP, inside the virtual box i was bypassing USB Devices like ID card reader and read in Windows XP because i did not had drivers in Linux. (Since then i have this disk write error often)
[11:22] <Wug> well I think it's fixed.  somehow.
[11:22] <maxb> IamTrying: The disk reports that it has 80 sectors that have been discovered to be unreadable and are pending reallocation (Current_Pending_Sector) - I would assume it is beginning to fail
[11:24] <maxb> IamTrying: I would 1) backup important data, 2) run a long SMART selftest, 3) plan on replacing the drive
[11:26] <IamTrying> OK - maxb thank you.
[11:28] <melkor> Is anybody else having trouble with nautilus consuming a large amount of cpu even when not in use?
[11:32] <virtuaposta> me not melkor! :) but what version of ubuntu you in?
[11:32] <melkor> 10.04
[11:33] <melkor> Sorry 12.04
[11:34] <virtuaposta> melkor, have you tried to change value of swappiness? not sure if it help but try this "sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=10" otherwise restart the system in case anything goes more wrong ;)
[11:40] <melkor> I have tried restarting previously. I've actually uninstalled nautilus because it is pretty much not usable for me. It does this high cpu usage when it is not in use, or just displaying the desktop.
[11:41] <Laurie10> Hi!
[11:41] <melkor> I was checking if this was a known issue in the ubuntu community.
[11:41] <ikonia> melkor: no
[11:42] <Laurie10> Anyone that has installed 13.04 on a ASUS notebook? I kind of am in a sticky situation. No urgent.
[11:42] <ikonia> melkor: keep in mind nautilus is just a file manager, it doesn't display the desktop at all
[11:42] <ikonia> Laurie10: why don't you just explain the problem, as people who have not installed on a random ASUS notebook can probably still help you
[11:43] <eer> Does x11 tunneling through SSH work with every program?
[11:43] <eer> Anybody knows?
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> eer  "every program"?
[11:43] <melkor> eer: every program?
[11:44] <Laurie10> Yes, basicly as I install Ubuntu LiveCD I get steady black screen. No nomodeset Works. I have Nvidia Geforce 740m
[11:44] <eer> Can I run evolution which is on my server through SSH on my client netbook?
[11:44] <virtuaposta> eer, yes it does except lots of including eclipse, etc.
[11:44] <melkor> eer: you should be able to.
[11:44] <minimec> eer: That should work.
[11:45] <ikonia> Laurie10: "as you install" - please clarify, do you get to a certain point and then it dissapears, or do you never get any screen just a black screen
[11:45] <eer> Do I have to configure evolution somehow?
[11:45] <minimec> eer: no.
[11:45] <ikonia> eer: why don't you just explain the problem, rather than these loaded questions
[11:45] <eer> I guess it will only work if both sides use KDE or both sides use Gnome, right?
[11:46] <cfhowlett> !details|eer,
[11:46] <ikonia> eer: why don't you just explain the problem, rather than these loaded questions
[11:46] <Laurie10> Sorry, English is not my native language. As I hit "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu". Please note I do not have a purple background, just black and wite. The windows 8 I am using came pre installed.
[11:46] <ikonia> Laurie10: what does Windows have to do with this ? (your English is fine by the way)
[11:47] <virtuaposta> melkor, i have observed few users with this issue and the issue was actually with missing additional Nvidia drivers, try activating drivers
[11:47] <Laurie10> ikon: The UEFI that I hate...
[11:47] <melkor> virtuaposta: ?
[11:47] <ikonia> Laurie10: ok, so that's nothing to do with Windows
[11:48] <Laurie10> Yes, I meant UEFI, but as Windows (8) comes pre-bundled with UEFI i meant that (sorry for the hang-up, by the way)
[11:48] <virtuaposta> melkor, that was in response to your nautilus issue.. or i might missed the actual user who raise the issue.. my apologies :)
[11:49] <melkor> virtuaposta: yes, I have an issue with nautilus. I do not have nvidia. I have intel, and all of my 3d drivers are up to date and working... last I checked.
[11:49] <eer> Does X11 forwarding only work if both sides use KDE or both sides use Gnome?
[11:49] <melkor> eer: no.
[11:49] <ikonia> eer: just explain the REAL problem
[11:49] <eer> I can not try it out at the moment.
[11:50] <eer> ikonia, what problem?
[11:50] <ikonia> eer: the one you keep asking about
[11:50] <ikonia> or the query in which you are aiming these loaded questions if it's not a problem
[11:50] <eer> ikonia, I am trying to clear things before I install GUIs for nothing.
[11:50] <chrisward> I've x11 forwarded off a ubuntu server without installing gui
[11:51] <minimec> eer: The answer is 'no problem'. You can use ssh -X on a KDE environment and login to Gnome environment and run Evolution or whatever you want.
[11:51] <eer> minimec, thx
[11:53] <utopico> • IRcap 8.72 • http://www.ircap.com •
[11:54] <chrisward> that didn't look like spam or anything
[11:54] <eer> minimec, and in general, just to understand this, the clients GUI will be used. The stuff coming out of the X11 tunnel is only data that the client will use to create the program's GUI?
[11:55] <chrisward> yep, you don't even need gnome/kde on the server
[11:55] <chrisward> just x and stuff... :D
[11:55] <minimec> eer: The software is exectuted 100% on the machine you login to. The Xserver only redirects the output to the machine you are sitting on.
[11:56] <Laurie10> The story goes: Once apon a time there was a man with a computer that dual booted Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04. Then his computer broke. Sad, he sent it in and got a new one, with Windows 8. It sucked so he wanted to install Ubuntu on it. The Ubuntu installation didn't work, cause' when he hit "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu" he got a steady black screen. He thinks that it is his Nvidia Geforce
[11:56] <Laurie10> 740m's fault. He doesn't have any "Secure Boot" options in his Setup so he asks in the IRC.
[11:56] <eer> chrisward, but of course I need KDE/Gnome on the server. How am I supposed to install/run Evolution there?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> eer  a server is not supposed to be used with a GUI
[11:57] <chrisward> eer, the output is directed straight to the client, kde/gnome aren't required unless you're at a terminal on the server to use it
[11:57] <eer> minimec, and the output in that case includes the GUI or only raw data which a GUI needs?
[11:58] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: a server can be used just fine with a gui
[11:58] <minimec> eer: You need a Xserver on both machines!
[11:58] <helpmewithmywifi> Laurie10 is that your on board video card?
[11:58] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: there is no "rules" that says a server must not have a gui, some application functions require / work better with a gui
[11:58] <Laurie10> I don't really know as this ia a notebook. I haven't opened it yet.
[11:59] <kali_eskrima> minimec hi. i downloaded the version of  and burned an image dvd from iso. so it would be bootable. as well as i did bootable usb. non of them works. my bios is not recognizing the cd, for me to set it as boot option,. for usb, i can see it in the bios, but when i set it as bootable option it wont boot from usb...!!!! what am i doing wrong? am i supposed to press any butons when the cd or usb is booting?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> kali_eskrima, did you tell your computer to boot from the USB?
[12:00] <kali_eskrima> cfhowlett yes i did. but it wont boot. my bios is uefi. the secure boot is disabled, as well as fast boot. and i think legacy mode is disable too. i dont jknow what is legacy mode, but i know is disabled.
[12:01] <kali_eskrima> the live cd wont read it cfhowlett
[12:01] <cfhowlett> kali_eskrima, ok slow down here.  first: did you md5sum check the iso you downloaded to verify integrity?
[12:01] <kali_eskrima> i meant before that i downloaded the version ubuntu 13.10
[12:02] <cfhowlett> kali_eskrima, can't help with 13.10 as it's pre-release.   try #ubuntu+1 or use a supported version.
[12:02] <kali_eskrima> cfhowlett how do u see if is good or not? i think i have all the files
[12:02] <cfhowlett> "all the files"?  ISO is ONE file!
[12:02] <minimec> kali_eskrima: We talked yesterday right? I mean you got 12.04 working. Just boot up 13.10 the same way...
[12:02] <eer> OK; final question. I am a bit slow and for me it is hard to grasp. I install a brand new no GUI Ubuntu, no KDE, no Gnome, nothing. Then I go apt-get install evolution. Then on the client which is running Kubuntu I can SSH -X to that server and run the Evolution GUI on my local machine?
[12:03] <kali_eskrima> ok cfhowlett i have currently 12.04 and is giving me problems. always with wifi, turned on and off. one day on and the next off. and than some other problems. so i wanted to add 12.10 or 13.10
[12:03] <minimec> eer: 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg evolution'. I would try that.
[12:03] <cfhowlett> kali_eskrima, 12.10 is supported.  13.10 hasn't been released.
[12:03] <melkor> eer: you'll need to make sure sshd is running on the server.
[12:04] <eer> melkor, that is a given. But apt-get won't complain and ask me to install Gnome or KDE? Strange.
[12:05] <kali_eskrima> minimec yes we spoke the other day. my wi fi is not working now, but yesterday it did, as usually laptop does, recognizes the nearest wi fi, which is at my home. i have a router. so anyway i downloaded the 13.10 version and burned the iso (burned the image so it will become bootable) i did it with the  brasero disk burner. and i also made a usb bootable. maybe i didnt i dont know. but it ain t working as it should. the 12.04 i
[12:06] <kali_eskrima> i   also have 12.10 downloaded it wont boot
[12:06] <kali_eskrima> cfhowlett minimec i have uefi bios. f**kin useless
[12:07] <kali_eskrima> uefi bios has secure boot disabled, legacy too, and fast boot. dont know why i need legacy option tho
[12:07] <hitsujiTMO> eer: you may want to add a desktop-environment such as ubuntu-desktop  ...
[12:08] <minimec> kali_eskrima: Well that 'Startup Disk Creator' normally does a good job for usb Stick live images. Although I once had a USB Stick, were the usb hardware refused to wotk as a live image.
[12:09] <CosmicCalamity> Hello :) Anyone still here from when I was on a couple of hours ago? I finally got Ubuntu to log in to the desktop! Woot :) But is there a configuration to change to make it more fluid in function?
[12:09] <hitsujiTMO> CosmicCalamity ? what desktop enviroment? unity?
[12:09] <kali_eskrima> yeah minimec i might have the same problem. its kind of making me wonder if i should even use ubuntu. i was so looking forward and its not working smoothly. and being a beginner of beginners its not really nice to not work, becuase i can berely help myself around. i just need it to work smothly. not like for example wifi, one day is working the next isnt... ?!?
[12:10] <babilen> CosmicCalamity: What do you mean by "fluid in function" ?
[12:10] <melkor> eer: I have no clue what that means. sshd will not require any gui's.
[12:10] <gebbione> hi all, nautilus file operations are kind of stuck sometimes when i copy files and folders dont auto refresh
[12:10] <CosmicCalamity> I don't know LOL I used v13.0.4 I think that's the one. Not the 10Beta.
[12:10] <gebbione> is there an elegant way to manage and fix this rather than let's say unplugging a usb device u r copying stuff to?
[12:10] <CosmicCalamity> It's very slow to click and react to what I ask it to do.
[12:11] <kali_eskrima> minimec do you know if ubuntu has customer service in usa to call their 1800 number or something?
[12:11] <hitsujiTMO> CosmicCalamity: install unity-tweak-tool   and under 'search' disable background blur
[12:11] <minimec> kali_eskrima: Well that wifi problem is rather strange. Do you have both ranges 2.4 and 5GHZ? In that case I would only use 2.4 network.
[12:11] <eer> Anybody can recommend a real good tutorial about how xserver and Gnome/KDE are related?
[12:12] <cgtdk> eer: The Wikipedia article on X
[12:12] <ikonia> eer: xserver runs, desktop runs on top of it
[12:12] <ikonia> eer: simple
[12:12] <kali_eskrima> minimec ok, sorry can you help me locate where is the option 2.4 and 5ghz?
[12:12] <kali_eskrima> should i go to my router settings?
[12:12] <minimec> kali_eskrima: Check that on the router.
[12:13] <eer> thx will check it out.
[12:13] <hitsujiTMO> CosmicCalamity: what specs are the machine you are running?
[12:14] <minimec> eer: if you installed xserver-xorg, it did a basic default configuration. That should do for a ssh -X login.
[12:14] <kali_eskrima> minimec and also ubunut "system settings" ...network.....its not letting me switch to "on" my wireless network. my other laptop, same ubuntu 12.10 no problem, every time localizes and finds my home wifi network. i set both laptops with the pass code and to my routerm, so they would always be able to use the wifi at home.
[12:14] <Schalla> Good day. When I made a image of a PGP Encrypted HDD, can I access somehow the data in it, when I mount it with a vm or sth?
[12:14] <kali_eskrima> minimec where on the router.. .the hardware itself or the settings online webpage
[12:14] <CosmicCalamity> Just a sec, I'm getting the unity tweak tool
[12:15] <minimec> kali_eskrima: Well the routers settings. You should know if you have a dual band or single band router.
[12:15] <gebbione> anyone has any idea why the whole filesystem doesnt really work in ubuntu? empty bin doesnt empty and copying files gets stuck
[12:16] <eer> minimec, thx
[12:16] <ikonia> gebbione: come on !!! "doesn't really work"
[12:16] <ikonia> gebbione: if you can't even explain yourself, how do you expect anyone to even consider helping you
[12:16] <cgtdk> ikonia: be nice
[12:16] <kali_eskrima> minimec well... i dont know and i will check now.
[12:16] <cgtdk> !details ! gebbione
[12:16] <ikonia> cgtdk: I'm stating a fact
[12:16] <gebbione> ikonia can u only focus on 4 words? havent u read the rest?
[12:16] <ikonia> gebbione: yes,
[12:16] <cgtdk> !details | gebbione
[12:17] <ikonia> gebbione: hence why you need to explain the real problem
[12:17] <gebbione> cgtdk, clicking empty bin doesnt empty
[12:17] <cfhowlett> !details|gebbione,
[12:18] <flakyfilibuster> hi everyone
[12:18] <cgtdk> hello
[12:18] <cfhowlett> flakyfilibuster, greetings
[12:18] <gebbione> cgtdk, clicking empty bin doesnt empty <- ubuntu 12.04
[12:18] <drmagoo> gebbione, please do a 'sudo dmesg' and pastebin the last 40 lines the paste the link here
[12:19] <ikonia> gebbione: I suspect thats because you've run something as "root" which means you dont have permission to empty the recycle bin
[12:20] <kali_eskrima> minimec where can i find about bands,? i use dlink router
[12:21] <gebbione> cgtdk, clicking empty bin doesnt empty <- ubuntu 12.04  ---- http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230994/
[12:22] <minimec> kali_eskrima: Mine is an Asus Router.... ;) Check you settings... Probably you only got a single band.
[12:23] <kali_eskrima> settings....im lookin hold on.
[12:23] <kali_eskrima> minimec i have channel width? is that the same?
[12:24] <gebbione> ikonia, before the bin problem i was transfering files to the Kingston usb pen but the operation got too slow. I tried to stop the file copying fromGUI but it stuck itself when i tried not moving at all ... so i manually unplugged the usb
[12:24] <ikonia> gebbione: that's probably caused corruption on the file system
[12:27] <Obi1> good morning
[12:27] <cfhowlett> Obi1, greetings
[12:28] <Guest56691> /help
[12:28] <gebbione> ikonia, it is really frustrating how it copies something really fast and then it gets stuck at 99.9% for a long time
[12:28] <ikonia> gebbione: how big are the files you are copying ?
[12:28] <gebbione> 738.1 of 741.5 copied <- it is showing this for the last 30 secs
[12:29] <Guest56691> anyone know how to get flash to work in ubuntu 12.04?
[12:29] <gebbione> MB
[12:29] <ikonia> gebbione: how long are we talking to move 750mb
[12:29] <bekks> Guest56691: works fine here.
[12:29] <tramadol37mg> Hi
[12:30] <gebbione> ikonia, it took about 20sec to get where it is now and it is stuck at the moment still at 738.1MB while we chat
[12:30] <bekks> Guest56691: It needs to write done the I/O cache. It may take a while.
[12:30] <ikonia> gebbione: so either a.) your usb device is very slow and it's just finalising the copy b.) your files are corrupted and it can't read them to finish the copy
[12:30] <gebbione> bekks, can you play pogo games with your flash?
[12:31] <minimec> kali_eskrima: I am just figguring out, where the problem could be on the router side. I would use the 2.4 band with something like 'g Only' network. The N network might give you some instability with wifi connection. Also use AES WPA encryption.
[12:31] <Obi1> exept Iptraf any other IP monitor tool for linux ?
[12:32] <eer> If one installs xserver-xorg and evolution on a brand new system without Desktop environment and then starts Evolution, will Evolution run and look crappy because only xserver is installed or not run at all (only run over a tunnel to a system with a Desktop environment)?
[12:32] <ikonia> eer: it will run as you see it on the client
[12:32] <gebbione> ikonia, finalising for 2 min is not cool, it just finished ... how can finalisation take so long
[12:32] <ikonia> eer: I'd suggest just actually trying this and most of your questions will be answered,
[12:32] <ikonia> gebbione: your usb device is slow/poor
[12:33] <gebbione> ikonia, i dont get that on mac ... writes in seconds
[12:33] <gebbione> same usb
[12:33] <ikonia> gebbione: what file system is on the usb
[12:33] <gebbione> msdos
[12:34] <eer> ikonia, will do, just can not because I am not at home at the moment. Just can't wait and need to know ahead of time. :)
[12:34] <ikonia> gebbione: it's possible your device is not been detected properly and run at full speed.
[12:34] <ikonia> eer: you're asking questions though that are quite subjective, better to just wait, try it then raise any problems you've got
[12:35] <gebbione> ikonia, isnt this a proof that the kingston datatraveller is detected in full? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230994/ ... how can i check if it is being detected correctly
[12:35] <hello> I'm thinking of installing 13.10, should I wait till the official release on the 17th or is there no difference if I install the beta now?
[12:35] <Laurie10> Any suggestions for my issue? Quoted:
[12:35] <ikonia> gebbione: lots of bad stuff in there http://paste.ubuntu.com/6230994/
[12:36] <hitsujiTMO> hello: wait for release ... or even a few weeks after ...
[12:36] <gebbione> whats the latest stable ubuntu
[12:36] <ikonia> gebbione: line 9, 14,18,21,22,,23,25,
[12:36] <cfhowlett> !stable
[12:36] <ikonia> gebbione: 13.04
[12:37] <kali_eskrima> minimec i dont see any of the settings you are talkin about, only i chose wep or wpa encryption
[12:37] <hitsujiTMO> hello: that is if you want to be be guaranteed a stable system
[12:37] <gebbione> ikonia,  how do i upgrade from 12.04
[12:37] <Laurie10> "
[12:37] <ikonia> gebbione: why do you want to upgrade ?
[12:37] <minimec> kali_eskrima: Definitly WPA!
[12:37] <gebbione> ikonia, isnt 13.x an improvement?
[12:38] <ikonia> gebbione: depends on many things
[12:38] <hello> hitsujiTMO: Okay I see. What if I install the beta now and update it after the release, would it be the same thing or would I have to do clean install
[12:38] <kali_eskrima> oh ok i chose personal wpa2
[12:38] <minimec> kali_eskrima: Your router is capable to send different wireless modes. Newer ones have b/g/n. I would set it to 'g' only.
[12:38] <CosmicCalamity> Sorry...kids. So, I downloaded the unity tweak app...where do I find it and how do I use it?
[12:38] <kali_eskrima> hold on wii change minimec
[12:39] <TimPlaz> suggestions for flash in 12.04????
[12:39] <kali_eskrima> i didnt see g options.... you mean 801 g?
[12:39] <minimec> kali_eskrima: yes
[12:40] <hitsujiTMO> hello: i'd presume it will update but i'm not 100% sure on that, i've never run beta: betst to ask that in #ubuntu+1
[12:40] <kali_eskrima> minimec oooooo o_O
[12:40] <gebbione> TimPlaz, flash in general plays with the default flash available in synaptic ... still pogo games dont work for me
[12:40] <hitsujiTMO> CosmicCalamity: open the search menu and type unity  ... it should pop up as the first result
[12:40] <TimPlaz> youtube not working for me
[12:41] <TimPlaz> installed latest version
[12:41] <cfhowlett> TimPlaz, you installed youtube????
[12:41] <bekks> cfhowlett: you didnt?! :)
[12:41] <gebbione> ikonia, that depends on many things should not exist in a bigger version ... it should be improvements only
[12:41] <cfhowlett> bekks, on my list of things to do ...
[12:41] <BluesKaj> TimPlaz. install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:41] <hitsujiTMO> TimPlaz: the easiest way to get working flash is to install chrome, it has it's own flash player
[12:41] <TimPlaz> latest version of flash plugin....
[12:41] <gebbione> TimPlaz, what browser
[12:41] <hello> hitsujiTMO: Okay thanks for the info
[12:42] <TimPlaz> firefox
[12:42] <ikonia> gebbione: no, it doesn't work like that
[12:42] <cfhowlett> TimPlaz, ubuntu-restricted-extras should address that as BluesKaj suggested
[12:42] <TimPlaz> I have that install as well....will try chrome
[12:43] <cgtdk> What is the difference between the verious *ubuntu-restricted-extras packages?
[12:43] <kali_eskrima> minimec what if i leave enable auto chanel scann?.......btw i only have 2.412, 2.417, 2.422, etyc...
[12:43] <CosmicCalamity> Ok, I went in and disabled blur. But my reaction time is still terribly slow...info boxes, changing windows and such. Is that normal?
[12:43] <TimPlaz> google chrome or chrommium?
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> chrome
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> chromium does not come with a flash player
[12:43] <TimPlaz> ok
[12:44] <gebbione> ikonia, what does .... [sdd] No Caching mode page present ... is bad for?
[12:44] <ikonia> gebbione: it's not running caching
[12:44] <minimec> kali_eskrima: I would start with 'auto'. If you are not satisfied, I would start to play around with channels. It depends on how many neighbours with wifi router you have in your area.
[12:44] <ikonia> (at a device level)
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> TimPlaz: you will need to get the deb from google.com/chrome and install it with: sudo dpkg -t pachage.deb
[12:44] <BluesKaj> cgtdk. restricted package/extras includes , flash, java and various media codecs
[12:44] <bekks> gebbione: And you are having one bad sector at least.
[12:44] <Obi1> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ chose linux version
[12:45] <ikonia> or don't as it's pointless to get flash from adobe now
[12:45] <cgtdk> BluesKaj: Yes, but what is the difference between, say, xubuntu-restricted-extras and ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[12:46] <kali_eskrima> oh ok minimec, so u are saying that my ubuntu 12.04 is not recognizing my wifi because of the channels i have set on roter...hmmm
[12:47] <BluesKaj> cgtdk. nothing really
[12:47] <cgtdk> BluesKaj: So why are there different packages?
[12:48] <minimec> kali_eskrima: I just try tune the routers settings a bit, to get a more stable connection. Do some tests with these changes. That's all I can do, as you say that sometimes the wifi card is wirking, and sometimes not.
[12:49] <BluesKaj> cgtdk. dependes for the desktop , but th apps are the same
[12:49] <cgtdk> I see
[12:49] <hitsujiTMO> cgtdk: xubuntu-restricted-extras is intended for Xubuntu
[12:49] <kali_eskrima> minimec yeah i will try. thank you i appreciate any help
[12:49] <BluesKaj> err dependencies/libs
[12:50] <Obi1> welcome plusEV
[12:50] <tramadol37mg> My display service crashes everytime I attempt to load a high resolution image, or a graphicaly dense webpage. Then, it bounces to the login interface. Sometimes, the display is blurred by red lines and the mouse cursor is transparent (I have to press CTRL to retrive it). Sometimes, everything gets well.
[12:50] <tramadol37mg> I assume it's because a generic driver is installed instead of the one designed for my graphic card.
[12:50] <tramadol37mg> And maybe also because I kind of messed up the video configuration and the GNOME support long time ago, as I updated the system.
[12:50] <tramadol37mg> Do you have any idea how to recover that ?
[12:50] <FloodBot1> tramadol37mg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> odd I don't see java in the restricted list anymore
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> tramadol37mg: what exactly do you mean by "load a high resolution image" ?
[12:51] <juniour> hey when every my pc start one process start called .ruby.bin adn eats all my cpu power, how to stop
[12:52] <juniour> how to stop it from startup???
[12:52] <gebbione> some innit.d shit
[12:53] <foofoobar> So I want to use vim with  command-t. Vim is compiled with ruby1.8, but I'm using ruby1.9. How do I get a vim version with ruby1.9 compiled?
[12:53] <tramadol37mg> Er, when I open a image in a high resolution format.
[12:54] <juniour> its a deamon process
[12:54] <juniour> ?
[12:54] <wjtaylor> is there a package that installs make, gcc, config, etc all in one package?
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> tramadol37mg: with what application or is it any application?
[12:55] <bekks> wjtaylor: You asked that in #vbox just a few seconds ago and got an answer there.
[12:55] <TimPlaz> managed to install go0ogle chrome....get error stating can not load flash pluggin
[12:55] <tramadol37mg> Yes, with firefox.
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> wjtaylor: build-essential
[12:56] <wjtaylor> nice. thanks!
[12:56] <TimPlaz> shockwave flash to be exact
[12:56] <wjtaylor> bekks: I didn't see it in the manual
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> tramadol37mg: what graphics you got?
[12:57] <bekks> wjtaylor: that doesnt mean it isnt there.
[12:58] <CosmicCalamity> I'm going to have to come back to this later...my son's awake from his nap. Thanks for you help! Cheers!
[12:59] <hitsujiTMO> TimPlaz: goto chrome://plugins and see which one exactly has crashed
[12:59] <wjtaylor> bekks: True.
[12:59] <tramadol37mg> Athlon XP 2500
[12:59] <tramadol37mg> (kind of old)
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> tramadol37mg: what gpu you got?
[13:01] <minimec> tramadol37mg: With that CPU, I would rarher ask... how much RAM do you have on that machine?
[13:03] <tramadol37mg> Ah ok, I think I have 1024mb.
[13:03] <bomberman45555> why does no one ever speak on here
[13:04] <auronandace> tramadol37mg: 1gb isn't much in ram these days
[13:04] <BluesKaj> ever? , you've only been here for 1 min
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> tramadol37mg: can you tell me what gpu you have and the result of: free -m
[13:04] <minimec> tramadol37mg: If you are using ubuntu with unity and some additional stuff, this could get limit. You could try to install the xfce environment. Probably, you wil have a better desktop experience.
[13:05] <cgtdk> !xubuntu
[13:06] <tramadol37mg> indeed, auronandace ! Thanks minimec, I was thinking about it. I tried to replace it with KDE and it works quite well.
[13:06] <tramadol37mg> hitsujiTMO :        total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[13:07] <tramadol37mg> Mem:          1001        910         90          0         50        290
[13:07] <tramadol37mg> -/+ buffers/cache:        569        431
[13:07] <tramadol37mg> Swap:         1022         27        995
[13:07] <auronandace> tramadol37mg: kde would be more resource intensive than xfce
[13:07] <auronandace> tramadol37mg: lubuntu might be better for you
[13:08] <auronandace> !lubuntu | tramadol37mg
[13:09] <tramadol37mg> Okay, great ! Thank you really much guys, that's kind.
[13:10] <tramadol37mg> Thanks for your help, see you.
[13:10] <cgtdk> How much lighter is Lubuntu compared to Xubuntu (by default)?
[13:11] <auronandace> cgtdk: i don't think there's much in it
[13:11] <sophie_> cgtdk,  I recently installed Lubuntu after trying XFCE on an old laptop from '07 that had 2gb ram and an intel core centrino 1.5ghz, lubuntu was significantly more responsive for me
[13:12] <cgtdk> I see
[13:12] <sophie_> I wasn't lightning fast by any count but it was very acceptable for what it was running on.
[13:12] <sophie_> *It
[13:12] <minimec> cgtdk: This is a guess (I don't use lxde/xfce): lxde<100mb /xfce 150-200mb footprint.
[13:13] <Marlenee> can i login my ssh server without need enter password every time using private and public key
[13:13] <Quickie> So.... I don't have a "full" related Ubuntu question, but it is some-what related, anyone able to help?
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> Quickie  let's hear it, if it's not for this channel, we may tell you where to go instead
[13:14] <MrElg> state your question Quickie, and then see if somebody can help, we can ask about asking questions about questions all day long
[13:15] <hitsujiTMO> Marlenee: yes
[13:15] <Marlenee> hitsujiTMO : how
[13:16] <Quickie> Sorry had to go afk for a sec, I meant to type it right after haha
[13:17] <Quickie> Have a Toshiba Satellite L855D-S5220, and every time it tries to boot it gives off a "Bootfailed <disk>" error <disk> being any "HDD, USB drive, Bootable CD etc."
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> Quickie  in ubuntu?
[13:18] <Quickie> Everything, Ubuntu CDs, USB drives, and also Windows CDs and USB drives
[13:18] <Quickie> So it's semi Ubuntu related, but laptop related also.
[13:18] <auronandace> Quickie: sounds hardware related
[13:19] <everest> but toshiba is the company that supports ubuntu
[13:19] <Quickie> Any way to trouble shoot other than just assuming it's the mobo? haha. I've checked all ribbons, connectors, etc.
[13:19] <Quickie> Removed CD drive, ram sticks.
[13:19] <minimec> Quickie: Reset the BIOS to its default settings once.
[13:19] <everest> does windwos boot or not??
[13:20] <everest> if no os boots then its hardware problem
[13:20] <everest> else it might just be issue with UEFI boot
[13:20] <Quickie> minimec: I forgot to try that haha/ And everest it doesn't even boot at all
[13:21] <minimec> Quickie: Also shutdown the pc once. pull out the battery, wait 20 sec...
[13:22] <Quickie> minimec: Think removing the cmos battery would help too?
[13:23] <minimec> Quickie: That is often rather tricky on laptops. Would be my last guess.
[13:23] <xll11> Is it possible to install ubuntu without burning it on a CD? say I already have a windows machine and I want to dujal boot
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !usb|xll11,
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|xll11,
[13:25] <charlie> im trying to boot ubuntu 13.04 on a usb drive from OS X. After the "fasten your seatbelts" screen, I get nothing :(
[13:25] <cfhowlett> xll11, make a usb of ubuntu, boot and install.  follow the links for dualboot procedures
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !mac|charlie,
[13:26] <xll11> isn't it a no brainer? I just install ubuntu on an empty partition
[13:27] <charlie> on the usb drive? i did that
[13:27] <minimec> xll11: It depends on the system. I love to have a seperate /home partition
[13:28] <cfhowlett> xll11, thought you said "dualboot"?  install windows THEN ubunut
[13:28] <charlie> I see, rEFIt troubleshooting says "Booting Windows or Linux from an external disk is not well-supported by Apple’s firmware. It may work for you, but if it does not work, there is nothing rEFIt can do about it."
[13:28] <cfhowlett> ubuntu
[13:29] <xll11> I already have windows installed, and I'm new to using linux, so I don't have any prefrences yet =)
[13:29] <cfhowlett> charlie, if the FIRMWARE doesn't support, little ubuntu can do either ...
[13:30] <charlie> yeah, i guess
[13:31] <sophie_> I once had linux working via reFit on my macbook pro, then I tried it again one day (from a usb) and my computer stopped booting at all unless I tried like 5 times in a row, I took it to the apple store and they insisted on repacing the RAM and Mobo, hehe.
[13:32] <minimec> xll11: If the computer has USB3, I would consider to buy a sandisk extreme 64gb for 60EUR and do the first test with that. It's faster then my internal hdd. Otherwise you are right. In your case i would install ubuntu on one single partition.
[13:35] <mrwn> Hi, has anyone succeded in installing google web designer in ubuntu?
[13:37] <wjtaylor> Is there any way to install the lamp stack all at once, like in the setup of ubuntu server 12.04?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !lamp
[13:37] <wjtaylor> cfhowlett: gracias
[13:38] <Rhinull> How do I move the "minimize, maximize, close" button to the right hand side?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> wjtaylor, best of luck to you.
[13:38] <DJones> mrwn: Its not something I've heard of of, but this thread on askubuntu might be of help http://askubuntu.com/questions/291340/gwt-google-web-toolkit-designer-not-working-on-ubuntu-13-04
[13:39] <mrwn> DJones: ok, thanks man
[13:40] <mrwn> DJones: i meant this https://www.google.com/webdesigner/
[13:41] <HelloWorld42> Hi
[13:42] <cfhowlett> helloworld, greetings
[13:42] <DJones> mrwn: Thats not something I've seen I'm afraid
[13:42] <HelloWorld42> My laptop is having some overheating issues. I did some tests, and the mobo temp is always a few degrees higher than CPU. Is that normal, for the mobo to have higher temps than CPU?
[13:45] <mrwn> DJones: ok, thanks pro
[13:46] <liahimcociuba> exit
[13:48] <Marlenee> can someone help me to make cron job for public & private key for ssh login ?
[13:48] <Andrea4> hello, any way to set mouse DPI in Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[13:51] <Rhinull> How do I move the "minimize, maximize, close" button to the right hand side?
[13:52] <DJones> !controls | Rhinull (Hopefully the bots link is still up to date),
[13:52] <Laurenceb_> hi
[13:53] <Laurenceb_> can someone please help me restore the network manager applet?
[13:53] <Laurenceb_> it is missing from my notification area
[13:56] <jeffrey_f> I am in need of a quick and dirty script to keep an external drive up to date:  I have a music folder on my computer which I have copied to a portable drive.  I want to copy new, but not delete any files from A to B then from B to A.
[13:57] <fidel> jeffrey_f: might be a job for rsync
[13:57] <yenal> hi can somebody help me Im trying to compile festige on 64bit host but pkg-config keeps looking in the wrong PKG_CONFIG_PATH although it has been set to PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkgconfig && export PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[13:58] <yenal> it still looks into /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[13:58] <xtriz_> where can i find default isolinux.cfg file ?
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> !find festige
[13:59] <yenal> yes it doesnt exist thats why I have to compile the source code
[14:00] <daixtr> is mini.iso a minimal ubuntu without x11?
[14:01] <DJones> !minimal | daixtr
[14:02] <jeffrey_f> Fidel, would you have a quick example
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> daixtr: you can run ubuntu server if you want a TUI install
[14:05] <xtriz_> where can i find default isolinux.cfg file ?
[14:06] <cafree> Would anyone be able to explain to me why some mp3's I have are recognized in Ubuntu with the attached cover art (and is used as a thumbnail) and some aren't?
[14:06] <everest> exit
[14:10] <xtriz> cafree, because some of them have meta data attach with them.
[14:13] <cafree> xtriz, using EasyTag, I attach the cover art in the ID3 tag.  However only some display that as a thumbnail, and I can't figure out why
[14:13] <jeffrey_f> I am in need of a rsync script to keep an external drive up to date:  I have a music folder on my computer (A) which I have copied to a portable drive (B).  I want to copy/replace new/changed, but not delete any files from A to B then from B to A.  I had one a while ago which worked very well, but lost it.  Paste bin if you can
[14:15] <daixtr> hitsujiTMO: i want an ubuntu for headless server
[14:15] <buu> jeffrey_f: http://git-annex.branchable.com/assistant/
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> daixtr: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server   unlike ubuntu desktop, ubuntu server does not come with an xserver
[14:17] <hitsujiTMO> its exactly what you want
[14:18] <sophie_> Is the lack of GUI the only difference between Ubuntu and server?
[14:18] <sophie_> Or does Ubuntu come with pre-installed server software like MySQL and Apache etc?
[14:18] <stego> lack of DE
[14:19] <stego> so no Unity or similar enviroments
[14:19] <stego> just the base install
[14:20] <enacks> how di i install nvidia Geforce GTX 765m on to V13.04?
[14:21] <geirha> sophie_: but by uninstalling and intalling the right set of packages, you can turn a server install into a desktop install, and vice versa.
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> sophie_ there are a few other minor differences ... but the differences tend to get smaller with each ubuntu release. ubuntu server also has a 'minimal option' which reduces includes a more reduced set of apps
[14:22] <liquidmetal> I'm trying to su into a user, but it's not working...
[14:22] <liquidmetal> the prompt just returns without anything happening
[14:22] <liquidmetal> What might be happening
[14:22] <liquidmetal> % su nginx
[14:23] <hitsujiTMO> liquidmetal try: sudo su nginx
[14:23] <enacks> There was a problem opening the file /home/enackers/Downloads…inux-x86_64-319.60(1).run.
[14:24] <liquidmetal> hitsujiTMO, nope
[14:24] <buu> liquidmetal: A) run whoami
[14:24] <buu> B) strace
[14:24] <buu> C) What is nginx's shell set to?
[14:24] <liquidmetal> % su nginx
[14:25] <liquidmetal> % whoami
[14:25] <liquidmetal> root
[14:25] <liquidmetal> (running this as root)
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> liquidmetal is su working for other users or you having this issue with just nginx user?
[14:28] <liquidmetal> http://superuser.com/questions/566041/cannot-switch-to-jenkins-user-redhat-linux
[14:29] <liquidmetal> that answers it
[14:29] <buu> I mentioned that =[
[14:32] <liquidmetal> buu, thanks!
[14:33] <buu> =]
[14:38] <cartusia> Alright so this is the problem, have a Toshiba laptop got an error from what I have been reading from Google the problem seems to be hard drive related (PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE ROM, problem). The computer has Windows 7 Home as its OS. I just stuck an Ubuntu CD to see if I can back up the info and wipe the hard drive, but I connected an external hard drive and that is the only thing I am seeing
[14:38] <cartusia> so does that mean that it is not detecting the hard drive?
[14:38] <cartusia> I checked under the media folder
[14:38] <cartusia> and saw nothing :(
[14:38] <cartusia> Thanks appreciated
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> cartusia: PXE is network boot
[14:39] <cartusia> yes I am aware
[14:39] <cartusia> I tried changing the BIOS to its original state
[14:40] <cartusia> but it made no difference
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> cartusia  with the live usb inserted, what's the output of    sudo blkid ?   use pastebin to show us
[14:40] <cartusia> kk
[14:41] <oal> I found "dovecot-postfix - mail server delivery agent stack provided by Ubuntu server team" in apt. Is there any information about it?
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> apt-cache show dovecot-postfix
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> oal also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[14:43] <nrdb> I am using libvirt and have setup an isolated network for some VMs :-) ... now how can I get only the host to be able to have an interface on this isolated network?
[14:43] <cartusia> http://pastebin.com/7NJrYTFB
[14:43] <oal> hitsujiTMO, thanks :)
[14:44] <rosemary> ubottu !nonfree
[14:45] <rosemary> hitsujiTMO, I need to install the non free codecs and I have forgotten the apt-get command
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:46] <rosemary> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[14:46] <loa> how i can installed all packages?
[14:46] <loa> get *
[14:46] <cartusia> brb
[14:47] <loa> how i can get list of installed applications?
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> dpkg --get-selected
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> loa  dpkg -L | grep ii
[14:47] <loa> Sorry for that, i little sleepy and can't clearly discribe what i need :)
[14:47] <loa> It will show only that applications which i installed?
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> sorry loa: dpkg --get-selections
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> loa  hitsujiTMO's reply is better
[14:48] <loa> looks like there is not only mine applications.
[14:48] <loa> there is system wide applications.
[14:49] <flashUbun> Does anyone know of any keyboards without a Windows Key?
[14:50] <somsip> flashUbun: there ar eplenty of decent keyboards that offer changable key sets, eg Filco
[14:52] <zbrkxbr> hi guys
[14:53] <zbrkxbr> I need some help oever there
[14:53] <flashUbun> Cheers somsip. I'll take a look. Mechanical right? Any idea where I could get a linux/Ubuntu keycap?#
[14:53] <zbrkxbr> I have a free nas private server on my old IBM r40 I can reach it via nautilus but  when I try to copy something from my nas server nautilus is just frozen
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> zbrkxbr  ubuntu?
[14:54] <somsip> flashUbun: I ordered from www.keyboardco.com but that's in the UK. ISTR they did Ubuntu keys. Yes, mechanical
[14:54] <zbrkxbr> yeap
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> zbrkxbr: try copying via command line
[14:54] <flashUbun> somsip - UK here too.
[14:54] <zbrkxbr> :S command line ?
[14:54] <zbrkxbr> I'm not good via command line
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> zbrkxbr  now's the time to learn :)
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> cp oldpath newpath
[14:55] <zbrkxbr> how can I coppy muttiple fiels
[14:55] <zbrkxbr> (my keyboard sucks at that time)
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> like: cp /media/zbrkxbr/nas/* ~/Desktop
[14:56] <tozen> flashUbun: UK allways here, pal :)
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> zbrkxbr  start with a single file, to see what it does and get familiar with it
[14:56] <zbrkxbr> hmmm
[14:56] <flashUbun> I found these: http://www.keyboardco.com/product/ubuntu-logo-windows-keys-2-keycaps-for-cherry-mx-switches.asp Nice!
[14:56] <zbrkxbr> let me give aq shot
[14:56] <zbrkxbr> a*
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> start with a small file too, so you can see if that's freezing too or not
[15:03] <zbrkxbr> guys
[15:03] <zbrkxbr> nautilus problem sloved
[15:03] <zbrkxbr> I don't know why but
[15:03] <zbrkxbr> it did
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> !yay | zbrkxbr
[15:03] <zbrkxbr> :)
[15:04] <zbrkxbr> thanks all of you :)
[15:04] <gdos> i was using dwww to browse through man pages and it worked for a while but not anymore. now my webserver settings seemed to have been hosed. even when i type http://localhost i get a page not found error. how can i fix this?
[15:06] <theunholy> hello
[15:06] <theunholy> I installed Ubuntu on a old P4 and have no eth0 or internet.  i think its a marvell chip from a msi mobo...
[15:07] <ph8> hi all, i've got about 10 VMs in Windows Azure, they're in multiple regions and existing Azure limitations mean i can't group them and firewall them - they must all be firewalled individually. Without paying through the nose for landscape are there any solutions out there that will let me manage the firewalls on all of them from one location/gui?
[15:09] <faugusztin> theunholy: execute this command and give us the link: lspci | pastebinit
[15:10] <theunholy> Thank you, hold on :)
[15:10] <faugusztin> oh wait :P
[15:10] <faugusztin> you don't have internet there LOL
[15:10] <faugusztin> well, give me a second
[15:10] <theunholy> LoL.  I think I might not have drivers for this old lan on board.
[15:10] <faugusztin> theunholy: lspci | grep Ethernet
[15:11] <theunholy> I type that as two seperate? or lspci | grep Ethernet
[15:11] <faugusztin> you type it as one line
[15:11] <theunholy> I'm new to this.  Just installed newest Ubuntu.
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> theunholy  newest: 13.04 or 13.10 ?
[15:12] <theunholy> Monkey i'm not sure then i think its 13.04 i picked newest not most stable...
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> theunholy  what's the output of   lsb_relase -sr
[15:13] <flashUbun> Just want to double check with you guys, If I install 13.10 (Final Beta), I'm guessing I can just update the thing to final on the 17th like any old update and it'd be like installing from the final ISO right?
[15:13] <theunholy> hold on
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> theunholy  lsb_release -sr    <-- i typo'd earlier
[15:13] <yenal> hi how do I permanently change global environment variables ..edit /etc/environment?
[15:13] <Danny67892> Hellokdfjljkasdfdfjklasdajklsadjsdajksdjkalsdjkasjklasda
[15:13] <Danny67892> spammming
[15:14] <Danny67892> !!!!!!!!
[15:14] <zbrkxbr> how can I run a script
[15:14] <violazione> ciao
[15:14] <ph8> what kind of script zbrkxbr ?
[15:14] <violazione> !list
[15:14] <zbrkxbr> an installation script for an icon theme
[15:15] <andry> test
[15:15] <andry> :P
[15:16] <ph8> zbrkxbr, does it have a file extension?
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> zbrkxbr assuming it has +x permissions: ./scripname    should be sufficient for most scripts
[15:16] <theunholy> 13.04 and lspci | grep Ethernet returns no errors but doesn't output, just opens a new line in term
[15:16] <gdos> i was using dwww to browse through man pages and it worked for a while but not anymore. now my webserver settings seemed to have been hosed. even when i type http://localhost i get a page not found error. how can i fix this?
[15:16] <zbrkxbr> kurulum yönergeleri (text/x-install)
[15:16] <andry> try grep -i ethernet
[15:16] <fixingmywifi> minimec
[15:16] <pinqvin_>  Is it possible to get my sd drive work in my toshiba? Device is Toshiba America Info Systems SD TypA Controller (rev 03)
[15:17] <theunholy> I need to mention that I uninstalled network-manager-gnome i think it was because i heard it was a problem with just that and the network would pick up when the other one was uninstalled?
[15:17] <j0llyr0tten> i'm having trouble with Xorg and DPI
[15:17] <x684867> @theunholy...you broke your network stack, my friend.
[15:18] <j0llyr0tten> intel HD4000 seems to ignore its own findings and default to 96 dpi
[15:18] <faugusztin> theunholy: can you find out what board you have ?
[15:19] <andry> j0llyr0tten, did you try 'Option "DPI" "X x X"' as xorg option?
[15:19] <faugusztin> theunholy: sudo dmidecode | less
[15:20] <theunholy> It's a MSI-6728 I think it's a Marvell chip
[15:20] <x684867> @faugsztin...read the earlier comments by @theunholy.  He uninstalled network-manager, which would have had many dependencies that would have hosed the network stack entirely.
[15:20] <drake01> Hi guys, I need to monitor and kill some processes on two linux boxes from a third one. All three are in a lan. On the current machine, I can easily monitor the desired processes. How to go for 2 remote ones?
[15:20] <faugusztin> theunholy: then search for "Base board information"
[15:20] <theunholy> Yeah and now all im left with is a DVD and can't reinstall any software with jsut the cd?
[15:20] <fixmywifiplz> drake01  top
[15:20] <faugusztin> x684867: that is all fine and nice, but that doesn't change the fact that his device is not detected at all, so the software side is absolutely irrelevant
[15:20] <fixmywifiplz> drake01  pidof
[15:21] <theunholy> Search where?  Base board information in terminal?
[15:21] <zbrkxbr> guy I found it
[15:21] <zbrkxbr> but I have another issue
[15:21] <Marlenee> can i add path in /etc/ssh/sshd_config for anothe ssh keys as abackup
[15:21] <fixmywifiplz> drake01  then kill (pid)
[15:21] <j0llyr0tten> andry: no
[15:21] <zbrkxbr> instruction says I should run ./INSTALL
[15:21] <theunholy> yeah I figured i would just reinstall the software when i get the drivers in
[15:21] <faugusztin> theunholy: nevermind, you already gave the MSI-6728 info
[15:21] <zbrkxbr> but terminal says I can't reach the file :S
[15:21] <drake01> fixmywifiplz:  how to monitor the processes on remote machines using top?
[15:21] <theunholy> it's the red board, almost pink looking.
[15:21] <fixmywifiplz> ssh
[15:21] <theunholy> p4 3 ghz
[15:21] <j0llyr0tten> andry: i set the DisplaySize in the Monitor section and it ignored that
[15:21] <fixmywifiplz> drake01  use ssh
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> zbrkxbr are you in the same directory as the file when you type ./INSTALL?
[15:22] <j0llyr0tten> andry: weird thing is that it knows what the correct display size is
[15:22] <theunholy> 865pe neo 2
[15:22] <zbrkxbr> hitsujitme: yes
[15:22] <zbrkxbr> o*
[15:22] <theunholy> just looked on the mobo, 865pe neo 2, she oldddd lol
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> what is the exact error?
[15:23] <faugusztin> theunholy: there is lots of those boards, and all have different network adapters :(
[15:23] <Vivekananda> hello everyone is there a google drive client for 12.04Lts ?
[15:23] <drake01> fixmywifiplz:  I have to ssh using a password to remote machines because the remote machines don't use keys. How to go for it if I want to conceal my password?
[15:23] <Tylertwo> yenal, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[15:23] <gdos> how do i get file:///var/www/index.html to display on http://localhost or http://192.168.*.* or http://hostname(systemname) - when i open these pages i get an ERROR 404
[15:24] <theunholy> i'm sure its a marvell
[15:24] <faugusztin> theunholy: you should have  Realtek® 8100C or 8110S
[15:24] <theunholy> hmm
[15:24] <Marlenee> any idea about my question ??
[15:24] <pfifo> gdos: install a httpd
[15:24] <drake01> fixmywifiplz: I want to write a portable bash script to do so
[15:24] <theunholy> how can i check that?
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-google-drive-client-grive-and-grive-tools
[15:24] <faugusztin> theunholy: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/#/?sk=Archive&kw=865 find your board there, but most of them have Realtek
[15:25] <zbrkxbr> problem sloved guys thanks for the help
[15:25] <fixmywifiplz> drake01  im not entirely sure about a script, but some thing that gets the command  (pidof) will get you the id of a program
[15:26] <streulma> hello, I have Ubuntu now, but I want to run Windows in a virtual machine, our Dell dvd is lost. I live not in the UK and cannot ask Dell to send a dvd. What can I do to run Windows?
[15:26] <yenal> yep and there is said: System-wide environment variables are set in /etc/environment ..but changing there dont take effect even after rebooting
[15:26] <Tylertwo> yenal, what exactly do you want to change?
[15:26] <theunholy> K hold on bud, ill check.  then what you thinkin?  we gotta install the nic drivers from a thumb drive?
[15:26] <yenal> PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[15:26] <faugusztin> theunholy: one maybe a bit stupid question - is the Ethernet adapter enabled in BIOS ? I remember MSI boards from similar era had a nasty bug when after warm reboot made the ethernet adapter "dissapear" until next cold reboot.
[15:27] <theunholy> Yeah onboard lan is enabled in bios from first run...
[15:28] <drake01> fixmywifiplz: to get the id of a process running on remote machine, I need to ssh to the machine. But I don't want to do it manually. So I need to ssh without revealing my password?
[15:28] <fixmywifiplz> drake01 so i would do it like  pidof chromium-browser >> ./kill && pidof whatever >> ./kill
[15:28] <fixmywifiplz> then that would make a list of the pids you want to kill
[15:28] <pfifo> drake01: you can setup encryption keys to use ssh without using a password
[15:28] <faugusztin> theunholy: i mean check again if you can still see the option ;). anyway, i would like you to execute this and then copy /tmp/lspci.txt to thumbdrive, then upload to a pastebin : lspci -vv > /tmp/lspci.txt
[15:29] <yenal> Tylertwo: after each reboot when i echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH  ...no path is set although PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkgconfig" is written in /etc/environment ..so I have to export it manually each time :/
[15:30] <jmurrib21> Question: I'm receiving updates for ubuntu but there's always an error after the install that tells me to free space in the /boot directory.
[15:30] <jmurrib21> how can i do that?
[15:30] <drake01> pfifo: How to go for setting up encryption keys? Do I need some program to do it. Can same key be useful if no. of remote boxes increases to 5-6 boxes
[15:30] <user82> hi. i wanted to test the internal (intel) graphics on my pc. i usually have a nvidia pcie card. now it boots well, 3d works, but some apps complain "libGL.so.1 missing"
[15:30] <pfifo> yenal: you could set it from bashrc
[15:30] <user82> does anyone know how i can fix this, so i can switch between intel and nvidia?
[15:31] <gonza> Hello! I just installed ubuntu through Wubi. And my headphone jack won't work in windows for some reason.
[15:31] <Tylertwo> yenal, yeah, try bashrc
[15:31] <yenal> okay ill try although ubuntu manual says: "Not recommended anymore"
[15:31] <theunholy> that just spit out how to use lspci....
[15:32] <theunholy> it didnt run correctly.  are you sure its lspci -vv /tmp/lspci.txt ???
[15:32] <gonza> Anyone who has encountered this issue before?
[15:32] <pfifo> drake01: its really easy, ssh client comes with the tools to do it, but I forget the exact details of the commands to run, however google will know. Im pretty sure you can generate 1 key on your desktop and then upload that one key to mutiple servers.
[15:32] <yenal> okay this works ty guys :)
[15:32] <faugusztin> theunholy: no, lspci -vv should give you verbose list of items on your computer...
[15:33] <jmurrib21> gonza, i think you need to click on the speaker icon, then try to test your sound card with your headphones on
[15:33] <pfifo> yenal: everything is no longer recommended on ubuntu :(
[15:33] <Tylertwo> yenal, :)
[15:33] <gonza> I've done that, i get a pop up that says that i connected something in the headphone jack but no sound.
[15:33] <gonza> Uninstalled ubuntu and it started working again.
[15:34] <babinlonston> Any Software to Draw a image in ubuntu 13.04, im making one video tutorial and i need to Draw a Picture for that , in which software u can Draw
[15:34] <gonza> The headphone jack works perfectly in ubuntu
[15:34] <PwrSurge> any tricks to try and update from an old ubuntu release to the current verison?
[15:34] <pfifo> babinlonston: I use the gimp
[15:34] <faugusztin> babinlonston: GIMP, Libreoffice Draw ?
[15:35] <PwrSurge> have an old laptop that has 10.10 and want to upgrade it
[15:35] <babinlonston> oh is it possible in liber office draw ?
[15:35] <PwrSurge> keep getting an error that it was not able to calculate dependencies
[15:35] <babinlonston> pfifo: oh i dont have idea to draw in gimp its have lot of options
[15:35] <faugusztin> babinlonston: not sure, never tried to be honest
[15:36] <pfifo> babinlonston: theres tuxpaint which is more like mspaint than photoshop
[15:36] <babinlonston> faugusztin: ok let mt try
[15:36] <babinlonston> pfifo: ok let me try it ...
[15:36] <wiehan> How can one see what is causing a high system load if on the top command there is really no CPU hogging application?
[15:37] <pfifo> heh 'tuxpaint - A paint program for young children' that sounds a little offensive
[15:37] <flashUbun> ha
[15:38] <Tylertwo> wiehan, check out "ps aux"
[15:38] <faugusztin> babinlonston: well i wouldn't recommend it for drawing :D
[15:38] <babinlonston> faugusztin: liber draw Dont have the options for Drawing
[15:39] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: trying to install via that page gives me dependency errors. What should I do ? https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/6963646
[15:39] <faugusztin> babinlonston: yeah, seem so
[15:39] <babinlonston> pfifo: ya its arounf 50 MB and its Downloading i think it will Work Around
[15:39] <theunholy> ok ill pastebin it now
[15:40] <theunholy> http://pastebin.com/E5mF24rb
[15:40] <pfifo> babinlonston: im pretty sure google has online image editor too.
[15:40] <Anarcociclista> hi to all
[15:40] <babinlonston> pfifo: let me check it
[15:41] <faugusztin> theunholy: the only thing there is the wifi adapter with BCM4306, you have no other network device
[15:41] <babinlonston> pfifo: no it wont help me , I need to Draw manually
[15:41] <theunholy> Yeah lame.  Wanna get the wireless adapter to work?
[15:41] <theunholy> Would that allow me to update the nic drivers easily?
[15:41] <Vivekananda> if anyone else can comment on dependency issues and what I should do now when trying to install grive https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/6963646
[15:41] <theunholy> its a linksys pci card
[15:41] <babinlonston> Vivekananda: ???
[15:42] <wiehan> Tylertwo, what should I be looking for?
[15:42] <theunholy> wmp54GS
[15:42] <PwrSurge> Could not calculate the upgrade
[15:42] <PwrSurge> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[15:42] <PwrSurge> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[15:42] <PwrSurge> no held packages though
[15:42] <babinlonston> Vivekananda: which version of Ubuntu u using ?
[15:43] <pfifo> PwrSurge: first ting I always do is 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f'
[15:43] <faugusztin> theunholy: should work out of box, but you killed networkmanager :D https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[15:43] <dinosaurvskitten> is there a way to find out why a specific package was installed? (I know some package was installed as a dependency for *something*, but don't know what that something is)
[15:43] <tozen> exit
[15:43] <Vivekananda> 12.04 and I followd grive-tools install guide from here -- http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-google-drive-client-grive-and-grive-tools
[15:43] <Tylertwo> wiehan, well you'll prolly want to pipe it through less (ps aux | less) and look for processes using a lot of CPU and/or MEM
[15:43] <faugusztin> theunholy: with the b43 driver
[15:44] <theunholy> OK so can you help me put network manager back in from the DVD?
[15:44] <flashUbun> Speaking of upgrade, can I upgrade 13.10 beta to final with just sudo apt-get upgrade?
[15:44] <faugusztin> theunholy: well, unless it needs that firmware, then do what that page says, but only after you got networkmanager back
[15:44] <theunholy> or am i boned?
[15:44] <Tylertwo> wiehan, You can sort it for CPU/MEM via "ps aux |sort -nrk 3 | less" and "ps aux |sort -nrk 4 | less"
[15:44] <Vivekananda> babinlonston: ^
[15:45] <babinlonston> Vivekananda: nanba
[15:45] <faugusztin> theunholy: i would reinstall and try to find out why your wired ethernet is not showing up - my best guess is what i said before - warm reboot = no network interface, cold reboot = network interface is there
[15:45] <dinosaurvskitten> the answer is apt-cache rdepends
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: follow this to sort dependancies: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/node/151
[15:46] <babinlonston> Vivekananda: follow the steps  sudo apt-get install grive
[15:46] <irenicus09> hi I need help getting my radeon hd8750m graphics card to work
[15:46] <gonza> any1? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/237286
[15:47] <irenicus09> I've switched over to ubuntu in the hope that my graphics card might finally work
[15:47] <theunholy> So theres no easy way to reinstall network from the DVD?
[15:47] <theunholy> maybe a repair install will work?
[15:47] <irenicus09> pls help me :(
[15:48] <njsg> irenicus09: don't switch distros just to make sure something works without first understanding what is the cause of your problem
[15:48] <jmurrib21> How to resize /boot in an encrypted drive?
[15:48] <Vivekananda> babinlonston: I did not get you . I already tried sudo apt-get and got errors which I posted --- https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/6963646
[15:48] <Schalla> Excuse me, what's the default Ubuntu 12.04 login manager, and can you still theme it?
[15:48] <faugusztin> theunholy: btw this is exactly what i mean : https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=46910.0
[15:49] <njsg> irenicus09: I don't even see hd8xxx in the list http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index5h2
[15:49] <irenicus09> njsg: true that but compared to the distro I was in their community was pretty small and support was lacking
[15:49] <irenicus09> ubuntu has a larger user base so I have a higher chance of getting help in fixing my problem
[15:49] <fun> hey folks
[15:49] <fun> who here used vdbench?
[15:50] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO; your link says :  NOTE : Ubuntu 12.04 32bit is not supported.
[15:50] <faugusztin> theunholy: seems like some stuff on that motherboard works depending on random generator - will device X work on it today ? let's roll a dice :)
[15:50] <fun> lol Vivekananda  what a name
[15:50] <fun> :P
[15:50] <fun> hi
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> ahh sorry, just 64bit
[15:50] <theunholy> so repair the install and just reboot?
[15:50] <fun> I want to modify Storage Definitions in vdbech any idea which file to modify?
[15:50] <irenicus09> njsg: I heard amd devs are shy about listing their new features in the veta driver
[15:51] <irenicus09> beta*
[15:51] <theunholy> Then do what that guide says to get the wireless card working?
[15:51] <fun> so far I get Raw device '/dev/sdl' does not exist
[15:51] <fun> :P
[15:51] <njsg> irenicus09: this is not from AMD
[15:51] <njsg> irenicus09: that is the radeon driver, the open driver for AMD cards
[15:51] <njsg> irenicus09: but from AMD, I can't find the card in the list, either
[15:52] <njsg> irenicus09: I'd guess that it's so new that, if there is any driver, you are likely to have to be stuck with the proprietary one for a while until radeon supports the card
[15:52] <Vivekananda> fun: ? sth interesting in it ? :)
[15:52] <pfifo> im impressed, the saucy 64 bit livecd seems to run alot faster than the precise 64 bit livecd, way to turn things around ubuntu!
[15:52] <fun> lol well it just claims u to be be ananada
[15:52] <fun> :D
[15:52] <faugusztin> theunholy: you can try, yes. and try what i said before - when everything is done, try to turn off your computer, then start it up again, and then check if the ethernet didn't came back
[15:53] <faugusztin> theunholy: i mean the ethernet adapter :)
[15:54] <irenicus09> njsg: what can I do to get the proprietary drivers to work?
[15:54] <tozen> exit
[15:54] <irenicus09> tozen: fail lol
[15:54] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: proprietary drivers for which card?
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> guys, I want to get rid of this "crypt", don't know or remember how it got there, how do I do it? http://pastebin.com/tEceXdK6  <-- lsblk
[15:57] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: radeon hd8750m
[15:57] <pfifo> MonkeyDust: comment the correct entry in /etc/fstab or /etc/crypttab
[15:57] <robert__> t
[15:57] <cafree> Would anyone be able to explain to me why some mp3's I have are recognized in Ubuntu with the attached cover art (and is used as a thumbnail) and some aren't?  I've attached the covert art on the ID3 tag (via EasyTag), but can't figure out what the difference is.
[15:57] <Vivekananda> hey eveyrone I guess I broke dependencies in my ubuntu. now I dont know whta to do
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> pfifo  yes, but then I have no swap anymore?
[15:58] <fun> Vivekananda:  but u are guru
[15:58] <fun> how u dont know what to do? :D
[15:58] <pfifo> MonkeyDust: run 'sudo mkswap' on that partition to turn it into a normal swap and then add an entry to fstab for it
[15:58] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: personally I do not recommend using fglrx.... it has terrible 2d acceleration
[15:59] <fun> hey DivineEntity  :D
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: not to mention your desktop may mess up after installing, I've witnessed others who have installed fglrx and got ruined desktops... you'd only use fglrx for gaming BUT even the radeon open source driver is on par with it
[15:59] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: my card doesn't have any opensource driver I think so I just need to make it work at whatever the cost
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: by default you're using radeon :/
[15:59] <Vivekananda> I was first trying to install grive but couldnot so I resorted to installing dropbox using this -- http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-dropbox-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/  .  and I got errors then I tried to do it via the software centre and I get this -he following packages have unmet dependencies:nautilus-dropbox:
[16:00] <scarleo> irenicus09, did you try download it from AMD site?
[16:00] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: when I do lspci -k it doesnt show any driver as being loaded
[16:00] <irenicus09> I guess the intell driver is in use
[16:00] <Vivekananda> fun: I guess you are not aware the ubuntu has a separate channel for off topic. Very soon you might be reprimanded for using this channel for non ubuntu chatting
[16:00] <irenicus09> scarleo: ya I'm downloading that now as we speak
[16:00] <Ari-Yang> scarleo: bad idea... you should install it from ubuntu's repos
[16:00] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: okay... good luck
[16:01] <scarleo> Ari-Yang, if that didn't work, try something else :)
[16:01] <Ari-Yang> scarleo: if what didn't work?....
[16:01] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: I tried the ones from ubuntu but it gives error as card not being detected or something
[16:01] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: what does lspci | grep VGA give you?
[16:01] <scarleo> Ari-Yang, install it from ubuntu's repos
[16:02] <Ari-Yang> k
[16:02] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: hold on
[16:02] <fun> http://198.199.77.140/output/summary.html
[16:02] <fun> how come its so slow
[16:02] <fun> they are using ssd disks
[16:02] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang:  lspci | grep VGA
[16:02] <irenicus09> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[16:02] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: uhhhh is that it?
[16:03] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: yes
[16:03] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: that's an intel card... why are you downloading AMD driver then?
[16:03] <Ari-Yang> .___.
[16:03] <scarleo> hehe
[16:03]  * Ari-Yang headesk
[16:03] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: 01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Mars [Radeon HD 8670A/8750M]
[16:03] <melkor> win 2
[16:03] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: ah, dual graphics
[16:03] <irenicus09> yup
[16:03] <irenicus09> lol
[16:04] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: so if it's using intel right now.... you should make the AMD one the default one before installing catalyst
[16:04] <theunholy> So what your telling me is if I just didn't freak out at first boot and shutdown instead of restart it woulda worked the next boot?
[16:04] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: how do I do that actually
[16:04] <scarleo> irenicus09, might be a BIOS setting
[16:04] <irenicus09> scarleo: there's no bios settin / option to enable/disable a card
[16:05] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: I forget... I think there's a command or vgaswitcheroo or something.. google?
[16:05] <irenicus09> from what I've heard it's a hybrid switchable graphics
[16:05] <faugusztin> theunholy: possible, that board simply has issues, a lots of it :)
[16:05] <theunholy> thanks
[16:06] <theunholy> it is only going to serve folders and files on a lan :-p
[16:06] <theunholy> it is a abortion of a machine
[16:06] <irenicus09> I've had this laptop for like 6 months and still no solution to get my card working :(
[16:07] <scarleo> irenicus09, Did you try this? Point 3.2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[16:08] <irenicus09> scarleo: ok taking a look
[16:08] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: that's for installing the driver... you want to make the amd card default and for installing the driver you'd start from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_upstream_drivers_directly_from_AMD.27s_website
[16:08] <Vivekananda> anyone care to comment on my problem of dependency issues with nautilus-dropbox
[16:10] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics I found that by googling :b
[16:10] <pfifo> Vivekananda: use ubuntu one... that my humble opinion
[16:11] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: why do you want to install fglrx again, and what ubuntu version are you running on?
[16:12] <PwrSurge> don't know why it's so hard to upgrade Ubuntu
[16:13] <Vivekananda> pfifo: thanks but I need dropbox for work. can someone help me resolve nautilus-dropbox dependency issues
[16:14] <Tylertwo> Vivekananda, Can you give more details?
[16:20] <jony_easyrider> how can move mouse cursor on the second monitor in Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:22] <scarleo> jony_easyrider, plug in another mouse
[16:22] <streulma> scarleo: lol
[16:22] <scarleo> :D
[16:22] <jony_easyrider> scarleo, it won't work
[16:24] <scarleo> jony_easyrider, just drag the cursor to the other screen
[16:25] <jony_easyrider> scarleo, ty, it worked
[16:25] <jony_easyrider> scarleo, it is possible to set up a clone display?
[16:26] <johndoe556> hello
[16:26] <charlie> booting into linux from OSX on a flash drive, get GNU GRUB
[16:26] <avi_> hi
[16:26] <charlie> how do i get the GUI?
[16:27] <Fergi> G
[16:27] <charlie> new to linux.
[16:27] <Fergi> L
[16:27] <Fergi> A
[16:27] <Fergi> M
[16:27] <avi_> r u thr
[16:27] <FloodBot1> Fergi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:27] <Fergi> O
[16:27] <Fergi> R
[16:28] <charlie> how do i get past GNU GRUB? sorry, new to linux
[16:28] <jony_easyrider> how can I open a movie on the second monitor in Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:29] <cgtdk> jony_easyrider: Are you having difficulty doing so?
[16:29] <jony_easyrider> yes
[16:29] <cgtdk> How so?
[16:29] <cgtdk> Can you not drag windows between your monitors?
[16:30] <jony_easyrider> how can be done that?
[16:30] <Wafamde> WINDOWS IS BEST!!!
[16:30] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: yo I think I successfully installed the driver :D
[16:30] <PwrSurge> troll
[16:30] <charlie> I'm booting linux from a USB, can I how can i get to the GUI? thx
[16:30] <faugusztin> jony_easyrider: grab a window by the title, and move it
[16:30] <cgtdk> Well, I don't use Unity, but I assume one would just open a window and then drag it to the other monitor.
[16:30] <cgtdk> jony_easyrider: How are your monitors set up?
[16:31] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: you think so?
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> charlie: it should boot straight to unity if its a live distro
[16:31] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: that's good, go on ahead and reboot
[16:31] <ajay_> hi
[16:31] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[16:31] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: already did reboot
[16:31] <irenicus09> haha
[16:31] <jony_easyrider> made it, ty
[16:31] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: ah, what's the output of flgrxinfo ?
[16:32] <ajay_> would any one would like to help me out.. i m using this for the first time..
[16:32] <jony_easyrider> cgtdk, it is possible to clone the second?
[16:32] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: fglrxinfo
[16:32] <irenicus09> display: :0  screen: 0
[16:32] <irenicus09> OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[16:32] <irenicus09> OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 8600/8700M
[16:32] <irenicus09> OpenGL version string: 4.3.12458 Compatibility Profile Context 13.20.16
[16:32] <FloodBot1> irenicus09: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:32] <irenicus09> sry abt the flood :(
[16:32] <cgtdk> jony_easyrider: where do you want to clone it to?
[16:33] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: yeah, that looks right
[16:33] <charlie> All i'm getting is GNU GRUB version 1.99~rcl
[16:33] <cgtdk> (I have no idea)
[16:33] <RiD> lol unban wafamde
[16:33] <RiD> poor guy
[16:33] <charlie> Minmal bash-like line editing is supported
[16:33] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: ty
[16:33] <cgtdk> jony_easyrider: It can probably be done using xrandr, but I don't know the specific command for doing so
[16:33] <waramde> my name now
[16:33]  * irenicus09 is feeling super happy today :)
[16:34] <DJones> !nickspam | waramde
[16:34] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: alright, now test it out, play videos and games and what not and see how your desktop's performance is
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> charlie, looks like the usb wasnt made correctly, its unable to boot ubuntu
[16:34] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: okay...what games on linux do u recommend
[16:34] <charlie> ugh
[16:34] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: ummmm I dunno..
[16:34] <irenicus09> k
[16:35] <scarleo> jony_easyrider, if you have nvidia GPU I believe you can  set cloning in nvidia settings
[16:35] <irenicus09> I wanna try dota 2 on steam ;)
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> charlie: what did you use to make it?
[16:35] <pfifo> irenicus09: minecrack
[16:35] <charlie> Hold on
[16:36] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: for some reason I feel like my laptop has gotten a lot cooler
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> irenicus09: portal 2 + half-life 2 are also good
[16:36] <irenicus09> Ari-Yang: before the driver installation it used to get so hot sometimes
[16:36] <Ari-Yang> irenicus09: that's because of dynamic power management
[16:36] <irenicus09> ya ;)
[16:36] <HateYoFace> i just sit around and play WoW
[16:37] <RiD> hmm i should give ubuntu another try
[16:37] <cgtdk> RiD: why?
[16:37] <HateYoFace> yessir :)
[16:37] <RiD> cgtdk why not?
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> RiD, when was the last time you tried it?
[16:37] <irenicus09> hitsujiTMO: ok will try that bro :)
[16:37] <pfifo> RiD: well gladly take you back!
[16:37] <cgtdk> RiD: I assume you had a reason for using something else
[16:37] <RiD> a year or two ago... don't even remember what version it was
[16:38] <abstract> what are some good C programs for a beginner to try
[16:38] <cgtdk> abstract: Hello world
[16:38] <abstract> lol
[16:38] <charlie> hitsuijTMO: on OSX I formatted it with MS-DOS (FAT) and then installed ubuntu 13.04 64-bit on the drive with Mac Linux USB Loader.
[16:38] <ajay_> @abstract find the largest of 3
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> ahh, i'm unfamiliar with any osx tools, just windows + ubuntu tools for generating live usbs
[16:39] <RiD> cgtdk unity was so slow on my laptop, jeesh :(
[16:39] <pfifo> abstract: open a file and display its contents
[16:39] <cgtdk> RiD: Try Xubuntu
[16:39] <cgtdk> RiD: Unity is awful
[16:39] <ajay_> how to get into gsoc..? I have prior knowledge of C, Java, ruby.?
[16:39] <charlie> I see, I'l go look somewhere else, thx for the help anyways
[16:40] <cgtdk> !xubuntu | RiD
[16:41] <njsg> RiD: 3d-accelerated window managers will be slow without proper 3d acceleration. if you don't need anything fancy, you can even try something like fluxbox for floating windows, or dwm or i3 for tiling window management
[16:41] <cgtdk> i3 is excellent
[16:41] <pfifo> RiD: njsg: or just wait for MiR
[16:41] <qwebirc66421> hey there anybody knows a solution to moonlight on linux?
[16:41] <cgtdk> i3 and a minimal install of Ubuntu is a nice combination
[16:41] <lolu> ajay_: #gsoc can help
[16:41] <qwebirc66421> it seems that the codecs installer is no longer supported
[16:42] <ajay_> lolu: i am using this for the first time. How to join #gsoc..?
[16:42] <Marlenee> can i make hidden folder and files in ubuntu using CLI
[16:42] <lolu> ajay_: type "/join #gsoc" withot quotes ofcourse
[16:43] <cgtdk> Marlenee: Yes: mkdir .hiddendirectory
[16:43] <njsg> pfifo: isn't "mir" something only with people who for some reason didn't want to collaborate with unity?
[16:43] <auronandace> !mir | njsg
[16:43] <njsg> Marlenee: well, in UNIX and linux hidden files and directories are those starting with a .
[16:43] <ajay_> thanks for telling. I have joined though.
[16:43] <njsg> Marlenee: so just name them .something
[16:43] <njsg> Marlenee: many visual file managers will hide such files by default
[16:44] <Marlenee> njsg : i can see all files begin with "."
[16:44] <Guest60993> my pc is dual booting windows xp and ubuntu server and in the cli i randomly get things that come up
[16:44] <Marlenee> njsg : iam using only CLi to manage my files
[16:44] <njsg> Marlenee: if you do "ls" it will not show dot-files
[16:44] <cgtdk> Marlenee: what program are you using?
[16:44] <Guest60993> http://pastebin.com/KJtQB7FR
[16:45] <Marlenee> njsg : ls -la show all files
[16:45] <njsg> Marlenee: yeah, -a stands for all files
[16:45] <Marlenee> then that mean it not hidden
[16:45] <cgtdk> Marlenee: The -a switch shows hidden files
[16:45] <njsg> Marlenee: if you do ls -l you won't get these files
[16:45] <qwebirc66421> any ideAS ON the use of microsoft silverlight on linux????????
[16:45] <pfifo> Guest69055: I get that error often
[16:46] <cgtdk> Marlenee: the dot prefix convention is just a convention, the files aren't really hidden
[16:46] <njsg> qwebirc66421: seriously, don't. maybe wine or mono can help, but don't
[16:46] <Marlenee> this is not full hidden
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> !silverlight | qwebirc66421
[16:46] <njsg> Marlenee: yeah, there is nothing such as fully hidden, I believe
[16:46] <Ari-Yang> qwebirc66421: but moonlight is dead
[16:47] <lolu> plenty outside my window
[16:47] <njsg> Marlenee: perhaps with ACLs there is, but I have no idea about that
[16:47] <DJones> !moonlight | qwebirc66421 However last I saw, the project had been dropped and there were nolonger any download sources
[16:47] <Marlenee> !info acl
[16:47] <Marlenee> can i use acl  from CLI
[16:48] <njsg> yes, how else would you use them? stuff usually started with cli utils
[16:48] <PwrSurge> I removed some conflicting packages but i still can't upgrade
[16:48] <pfifo> Marlenee: hidden files are to help readability, if you want to make it so others cant read your file look into encryption
[16:48] <njsg> Marlenee: with the basic UNIX permissions, you can't really do hidden files other than dotfiles
[16:48] <njsg> Marlenee: but if this is for, say, apache, have a look into .htaccess
[16:48] <njsg> there's almost likely a directive for that
[16:49] <qwebirc66421> indeed moonlight is no longer supported i thought maybe there is an alternative but it doesnt seem like it :S but thank you all
[16:49] <PwrSurge> isn't there a way to force the upgrade and hope for the best?
[16:49] <PwrSurge> don't want to reformat if possible
[16:49] <fixmywifiplz> wow
[16:50] <pfifo> !details | PwrSurge, your not getting help cause you havent explained your situation
[16:50] <PwrSurge> ok
[16:50] <esing> H
[16:50] <esing> Hi
[16:50] <PwrSurge> I have Ubuntu Maverick 10.10 and want to upgrade
[16:51] <pfifo> !eol | PwrSurge
[16:51] <PwrSurge> but keep getting an error that it was not able to calculate dependencies
[16:52] <PwrSurge> Could not calculate the upgrade
[16:52] <PwrSurge> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[16:52] <PwrSurge> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[16:52] <PwrSurge> that's what I get
[16:52] <esing> Can I install infinality also on Ubuntu 13.10?
[16:52] <esing> On its launchpad page it says "This ppa now only keeps packages for LTS/last release (12.04/13.04)."
[16:52] <PwrSurge> already read the EOL webpage
[16:53] <PwrSurge> it just tells me that I have to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 first
[16:53] <PwrSurge> which i'm trying to do
[16:53] <PwrSurge> from Maverick to Natty
[16:53] <ikonia> PwrSurge: have you pointed to the archived 10.10 repos ?
[16:53] <PwrSurge> yes
[16:53] <ikonia> PwrSurge: and is the system "up to date"
[16:53] <PwrSurge> old-releases.ubuntu.com natty
[16:53] <PwrSurge> yes, system up to date
[16:53] <ikonia> no, your repo is maverick
[16:53] <ikonia> you don't set it to natt
[16:53] <ikonia> natty
[16:54] <ikonia> probably screwed up now
[16:54] <PwrSurge> it is maverick but the updater changes them to natty automatically during the upgrade
[16:54] <Iridium616> Ubuntu sucks.
[16:54] <Iridium616> get over it
[16:54] <kickrox> lol
[16:54] <ikonia> PwrSurge: it should only do that post upgrade
[16:54] <Iridium616> What?
[16:54] <Iridium616> It does?
[16:54] <RiD> what
[16:55] <ikonia> Iridium616: your doing this in ##linux #ubuntu ##windows ##c - give it a rest,
[16:55] <ikonia> Iridium616: it's clear your just trolling, I'm happy to give you a break if you grow up and participate in the channel normally
[16:55] <SuperDefenderX> How stable is 13.10? I want to give it a shot.
[16:55] <Ari-Yang> !13.10
[16:55] <ikonia> SuperDefenderX: why don't you just wait for the stable/final release
[16:56] <SuperDefenderX> How stable is it in the RC build.
[16:56] <ikonia> SuperDefenderX: if you can't work out "how stable it is" perhaps waiting for the stable build is wise
[16:56] <Ari-Yang> in just 4 days SuperDefenderX lol
[16:56] <wiehan> I have a high system load, though my CPU usage is low. I need help finding the cause of this. Can anyone please assist?
[16:56] <SuperDefenderX> wait!? lol Surely you jest?
[16:56] <Myrtti> SuperDefenderX: third Thursday of October, like it has been for years and years.
[16:56] <Ari-Yang> wiehan: what card? is this laptop or desktop?
[16:57] <wiehan> Ari-Yang, desktop. Ubuntu 12.04.3
[16:57] <Ari-Yang> wiehan: what card?...
[16:57] <SuperDefenderX> That great and all, however.... It's not the question I asked.
[16:57] <wiehan> Ari-Yang, network card?
[16:57] <Ari-Yang> wiehan: graphics...
[16:57] <wiehan> Ari-Yang, onboard.. wait let me see
[16:57] <SuperDefenderX> but, thanks for your input nonetheless. :)
[16:58] <Ari-Yang> wiehan: type this in terminal lspci | grep VGA
[16:58] <ph1rmw4r3_-_> test
[16:58] <SuperDefenderX> Working.
[16:58] <ph1rmw4r3_-_> COOL!
[16:58] <SuperDefenderX> Hello World! :)
[16:58] <wiehan> Ari-Yang, Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[16:58] <ph1rmw4r3_-_> it really works
[16:59] <Ari-Yang> wiehan: perhaps if you're using open source drivers, switch to the proprietary driver?
[16:59] <Skexin> Now that I have sufficiently bounced my head off a wall and googled into the ground...I've come here in search of wisdom regarding a boot failure after 12.04 install....and now the system hangs if I try to boot to USB to try again with a different distro
[17:00] <savagejen> It seems that after the latest update, I no longer have a mouse cursor, which is sort of understandable since I have a touch screen laptop... except that I also have a mouse.
[17:00] <savagejen> I am not sure if this was intentional or a malfunction on my device.
[17:00] <ph1rmw4r3_-_> ikonia
[17:01] <wiehan> Ari-Yang, it is actually a headless server box.
[17:01] <ikonia> ph1rmw4r3_-_: what ?
[17:01] <chrisf_> !suggest Ubuntu 13.10 Review
[17:02] <pfifo> SuperDefenderX: oct 10th was final freeze, Im installing as soon as I get home... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FinalFreeze
[17:03] <Iridium616> AMSGs are awesome!
[17:03] <Skexin> I managed to boot 12.04 after the initial install, but after a system update, the reboot hangs after "Checking battery state.....[ok]"
[17:03] <AlexandreMBM> Hello! How to use DIY artworks (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing)?
[17:03] <Iridium616> Their only fault is the inability to filter some channels away -.-
[17:04] <AlexandreMBM> There are two pieces... "front" and "back".
[17:04] <AlexandreMBM> how to paste them?
[17:05] <PwrSurge> should I try to remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage and try to see if this works?
[17:05] <Skexin> "/topic"
[17:06] <belgianguy> hi, atm I'm on 13.04 and kernel 3.8.0, is there a way to get newer kernels any faster?
[17:06] <pfifo> !mainline | belgianguy
[17:06] <belgianguy> I heard that 3.11 brings a lot of improvements to ATI power management (mine overheats)
[17:06] <ikonia> belgianguy: why do you think your kernel is "slow"
[17:06] <belgianguy> thanks pfifo
[17:07] <ikonia> belgianguy: changing the kernel can have serious impact on your ubuntu hosts stability and our ability to support it
[17:07] <belgianguy> ikonia: I meant "get them faster", as in sooner, not velocity
[17:07] <ikonia> ahhh
[17:07] <belgianguy> ikonia: I know, it's a risk
[17:07] <ikonia> belgianguy: thats fine then, you know where you are going
[17:07] <belgianguy> installing ATI drivers has ruined my X/Unity I don't know how many times
[17:08] <freeminds> When I try to set a new "nofile" limit in limits.conf by user, then my config is ignored. Only when I do it via * it is applied. Why is that?
[17:08] <belgianguy> so I'm used to cursing at myself and open up root shell
[17:08] <esing> I want to add this ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/no1wantdthisname/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages to ubuntu 13.10, but when I perform sudo apt-get update, I get this error: 404 Not Found
[17:08] <dasmith91> clear
[17:13] <paulus68_1> I want to share a network drive with other linux box however I get the error message "unable to mount location failed to mount windows share" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6232279/
[17:14] <fixmywifiplz> the banhammer strikes again?
[17:16] <fixmywifiplz> ikonia, do you ever think that you have gone a bit to power crazy with the whole op thing?
[17:16] <daixtr> i'm trying to work on ubuntuone via command line,..where can i find this 'ulsdtool' ?
[17:17] <Myrtti> fixmywifiplz: -b, not +b
[17:17] <ikonia> fixmywifiplz: I suggest you actually "look" at what's going on before making these comments, I "removed" two bans
[17:17] <fixmywifiplz> oh my bad
[17:17] <fixmywifiplz> man your grouchy today
[17:18] <ikonia> fixmywifiplz: enough
[17:18] <fixmywifiplz> <3 dont ban me plz
[17:18] <Myrtti> fixmywifiplz: just stick to the support?
[17:19] <fixmywifiplz> yes
[17:20] <fixmywifiplz> Would anyone like me to support them?
[17:21] <paulus68_1> I want to share a network drive with other linux box however I get the error message "unable to mount location failed to mount windows share" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6232279/
[17:21] <paulus68_1> working with 2 linux boxes and 1 windows
[17:21] <fixmywifiplz> what protocall are you useing
[17:21] <fixmywifiplz> have you tryed samba
[17:21] <fixmywifiplz> or smb
[17:21] <paulus68_1> samba
[17:21] <ikonia> paulus68_1: what ubuntu versions are the lnux machines ?
[17:21] <ikonia> linux
[17:22] <paulus68_1> ikonia both on 13.04
[17:22] <ikonia> paulus68_1: are you manually trying to setup a samba share or using the ubuntu "share" tool /
[17:22] <paulus68_1> ikonia: never heard of the ubuntu share tool
[17:22] <paulus68_1> ikonia: was using samba
[17:22] <ikonia> paulus68_1: so you're manually setting up a samba server, correct ?
[17:23] <paulus68_1> ikonia: yes on a desktop envirement ubuntu
[17:23] <Schalla> uhm... how to execeute a command (conky) at login?
[17:23] <ikonia> paulus68_1: perfect, what command are you using to mount the share
[17:23] <daixtr> why is u1sdtool needing x11 ?
[17:24] <zykotick9> daixtr: you might want to ask in #ubuntuone
[17:24] <Schalla> nvm,
[17:24] <paulus68_1> ikonia: I just mentioned the shared location in my smb.conf and was refering to the folder /media/paul/MYBOOK1/personal to map the drive
[17:24] <fixmywifiplz> add it to the bottom of your bash.rc file i think
[17:24] <ikonia> paulus68_1: how are you trying to actually "mount" the shares though
[17:26] <arunpyasi> hello guys I have a problem , please help me
[17:26] <paulus68_1> ikonia: these are 3 external drives so I should mention it in the fstab? and point them to the shared location? or am I getting cold here?
[17:26] <ikonia> paulus68_1: I'm not sure why you are not answering the question I'm asking
[17:26] <fixmywifiplz> i may be able to help you
[17:26] <ikonia> paulus68_1: "how are you trying to actually mount them",
[17:26] <ikonia> paulus68_1: samba "shares" them - but you then have to mount them
[17:27] <paulus68_1> ikonia: that I didn't do
[17:27] <ikonia> paulus68_1: so what gave you the error you mentioned at the start ?
[17:27] <paulus68_1> ikonia: at least not specified them in the fstab
[17:27] <ikonia> paulus68_1: so what gave you the error you mentioned at the start ?
[17:27] <arunpyasi> I had install burg few minutes ago, but was very slow, I didn't like burg,now how to  restore my old and best grub?
[17:27] <tgm4883> paulus68_1: so what gave you the error you mentioned at the start ?
[17:28] <fixmywifiplz> apt-get install grub2   i think
[17:28] <paulus68_1> ikonia: I mentioned the shared drives in my smb.conf  restarted samba went to my linux went to network locations saw the shared drives and workgroup and found my 2 folders that I want to share selected personal and got the error provided abocve
[17:29] <fixmywifiplz> after that i think you have to do  grub-update
[17:29] <ikonia> paulus68_1: so that came from your windows machine ?
[17:29] <_raven_> script output waterfall: how to write lines to a txt file what never contains more than 10 lines and inserts on top (most recent on top)?
[17:29] <paulus68_1> ikonia: no linux
[17:29] <Froggle> Is it possible to use a Galaxy S3 as bootable USB in order to install Ubuntu on a desktop?
[17:30] <ikonia> paulus68_1: I assume you have created the samba "guest" account,
[17:30] <fixmywifiplz> can you format your phones storage as abootable device?
[17:30] <ikonia> paulus68_1: I'd then try to manually mount the share to get a bit of a better set of debug/output
[17:31] <Froggle> I don't know
[17:31] <fixmywifiplz> i know that you could use your microsd card if said computer has a slot for it and can boot from it
[17:31] <paulus68_1> ikonia: no I didn't
[17:31] <ikonia> paulus68_1: is there a guide / document you are following to do this ?
[17:32] <paulus68_1> ikonia: I was using this guide http://www.devtrends.com/index.php/configuring-samba-shares-in-ubuntu/
[17:33] <fixmywifiplz> Froggle: you would have to remove the sdcard from your phone and put it into your computer in other words
[17:33] <ikonia> paulus68_1: straight away I can see that guide is very poor "sudo su" - terrible
[17:34] <fixmywifiplz> how am i doing ikonia?
[17:34] <ikonia> paulus68_1: and your example shares look nothing like the examples in the web page
[17:34] <ikonia> fixmywifiplz: I'm not sure why you are trying to provoke me, but please stop
[17:34] <paulus68_1> ikonia: ok do you have a better solution?
[17:34] <paulus68_1> ikonia: or better guide
[17:35] <fixmywifiplz> i am in no way shape or form trying to provoke you nor do i want to
[17:35] <ikonia> paulus68_1: I'd look at the wiki (ubuntu wiki)
[17:35] <slacko253281> question: does anyone else running the latest virtualbox w/ ubuntu or debian guest know how to get the mini toolbar to display when the guest in full screen mode and 3d acceleration is enabled (gnome)
[17:37] <paulus68_1> ikonia: ok back to the drawing board
[17:38] <fixmywifiplz> ikonia can you help me
[17:38] <ikonia> fixmywifiplz: what do you want?
[17:39] <fixmywifiplz> well its not exactly ubuntu related but im trying to patch my kernel with a usb driver and i think im close but make gets an error
[17:39] <DJones> fixmywifiplz: This channel only deals with Ubuntu support issues
[17:39] <ikonia> fixmywifiplz: you where told earlier you are not using ubuntu - so don't ask in this channel
[17:39] <chemist^> Hey there...does anyone know if there is a way to get pass those annoying surveys on certain websites with "free" downloads?? I'm trying to download a book (pdf)
[17:40] <fixmywifiplz> what if i put ubuntu on it
[17:40] <ikonia> chemist^: that is also nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:40] <chemist^> ikonia yes i know...but there is a lot of people here, maybe someone cares to help me out :)
[17:40] <ikonia> chemist^: they don't - we only deal with ubuntu issues in this channel
[17:41] <chemist^> ikonia ok sorry mom :)
[17:41] <belgianguy> chemist^: asking for help with an illegal download in an OSS support channel, classy
[17:42] <chemist^> it's not illegal... wtf
[17:42] <chemist^> it's freeware...and the idiot wants to make money with surveys
[17:42] <chemist^> "freeware"
[17:42] <k1l_> chemist^: no need for being provokative. please stick to the guidelines in the #ubuntu channels. thanks
[17:42] <cgtdk> chemist^: Regardless, it is off topic
[17:42] <chemist^> well...anyway ... forget it :D
[17:42] <cgtdk> !offtopic | chemist^
[17:43] <AlexandreMBM> how to use art works?
[17:46] <_raven_> i need a voice-autotune plugin (autotalent is not enough) what pulls the voice very clean to a note. sound is not important but the note needs to be exactly. ideas?
[17:47] <dcope> i set up pptp vpn on ubuntu but nothing resolves. why?
[17:47] <chemist> It was just a simple question people...no need to get all warmed up and ban me from the chan...
[17:47] <chemist> Get all offensive :) sry bout asking
[17:48] <chemist> Bye now...get a girl or smth ;) to help u guys calm down
[17:48] <chemist> Byebye
[17:49] <Schalla> k1l_: Thanks.
[17:51] <solvaq> hi
[17:56] <AlexandreMBM> Hi! How to use wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing wallets models?
[17:59] <kmyst> hey does anybody know why chainloading a preseed file for mirror settings doesn't work? if the same settings are in the base preseed it works, but chainloading doesn't.
[17:59] <chsados> where can i seek tutorials on building a live ubuntu thumb drive with 1 partition that stores files/programs
[18:00] <yeats> !liveusb | chsados
[18:00] <__raven> any tool to trigger midi notes by voice?
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO_> __raven for such a question you might get a response in #ubuntu-studio
[18:07] <kmyst> ah...nm, i figured it out.  seems one can only have one preseed/include statement and having multiples SETS them but only the last one is loaded
[18:12] <compdoc> when you move a window on the ubuntu desktop, it shows the window's content while dragging. can it be changed to show a frame being dragged instead?
[18:13] <stego> why exactly do you want this?
[18:13] <jmgk> .ver Nothing_Much
[18:13] <jmgk> hm
[18:15] <gartral> hey all, I have an odd issue, I had to reboot after a game crashed and now I can't log into my usual username, it just goes black then a second later takes me back to the lightdm login.. any ideas/advice?
[18:16] <gartral> i'm logged in via guest session and I'm able to ssh into my account via loopback
[18:16] <Romance> how do i get only the data in non italic tag?
[18:16] <Romance> 'adj</i> <b>1.</b> <i>eager, interested</i> (<i>to learn, know</i>) ingin tahu; (<i>foll by infin</i>) ingin (sekali): <i>children are by nature, ~,</i> memang sifat semula jadi kanak-kanak ingin tahu; <i>she was ~ to see what he looked like,</i> dia ingin sekali melihat rupa lelaki itu; <b>2.</b> <i>inquisitive, prying,</i> suka ambil tahu: <i>she is always ~ about her neighbours,</i> dia suka
[18:16] <Romance> ambil tahu ttg jirannya; <b>3.</b> <i>odd,</i> aneh: <i>a ~ thing happened,</i> suatu perkara yg aneh terjadi; <i>it is ~ how two very different people can live together,'
[18:16] <FloodBot1> Romance: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:16] <Romance> ah sorry
[18:17] <Romance> and that is a wrong channel , lol
[18:17] <Myrtti> I thought so too :-P
[18:17] <Romance> bwahaha it supposed to be in python, my bad
[18:18] <Marlenee> why crontab save cron file in /tmp/crontab.LhTWT4//crontab
[18:18] <Marlenee> */tmp/crontab.LhTWT4/crontab
[18:18] <kundalini> hello broters! i would like to know a command to delete folders and sub folders in a directory but not the files
[18:20] <drmagoo> kundalini, move the files first and then delete the folders ?
[18:20] <compdoc> stego, was that question for me?
[18:21] <kundalini> yes but there is to many folders that is why i m serching a command
[18:22] <bwayne> kundalini: you'll want to move the files within the folders to another location. 'find . -type f -exec mv {} . \;' then delete the folders with 'rm -r <dir>'
[18:22] <geirha> Marlenee: So that after you've edited and saved, it can do a syntax check before overwriting the real crontab file
[18:23] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> is the nouveau driver considered stable?
[18:23] <kundalini> bwayne: thanks a lots
[18:23] <bwayne> kundalini: you're welcome. hope that worked for you use case.
[18:23] <bwayne> *your
[18:23] <drmagoo> kundalini, what does the folders contain ? Are there diffrent file-types or the same ?
[18:24] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ive had my computer crash 3 times now with in the last 2 days, the issue is with Xorg
[18:25] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> but it had been doing fine for months with no issues
[18:25] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> where would i begin to see what the problem is
[18:26] <Rory> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: /var/log/Xorg.*
[18:27] <chsados> is it possible to create a live usb with full disk encryption with truecrypt - i.e. in order to load the live usb you have to put in the truecrypt password?
[18:27] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> and what would i look for exactly
[18:27] <lukodiablo> hey guys.. someone can help me with setup wirelles card?
[18:27] <bwayne> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: you can grep that file for 'EE', which indicates errors.
[18:28] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> he used* so which file
[18:28] <bwayne> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: you can grep both using the *
[18:29] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> holy f*
[18:30] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> can i paste bin this and someone look at it
[18:30] <bwayne> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: of course. we can *try* to help.
[18:31] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> first thing that would make my have an idea is the 3rd line, but ill pastbin it all
[18:31] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:[    39.045] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[18:32] <bwayne> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: I'm not familiar with this sort of issue. but others may be.
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO_> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: if you're using Nouveau then you're not using nvidia module IIRC
[18:33] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> in the error report that the crach thing will send, an the bottom it mention nouveau
[18:33] <elliott__> Hello. can anyone help me with a problem?
[18:34] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> the desktop does have a nividia card
[18:34] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> nvidia
[18:35] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> !paste
[18:35] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6232596/
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO_> nouveau is the open driver for nvidia cards
[18:35] <drmagoo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, is this a new install or did you upgrade from a previous version ?
[18:36] <anon12> How do I change the lock screen background image to something different than my desktop's background image on Ubuntu 12.04 (preferably a video/.gif file if it is possible)?
[18:36] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> it was a new install
[18:36] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> its been fine for months till here lately
[18:37] <worst> Is anyone here very familiar with setting up xorg.conf?
[18:37] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> not recently , but i have done a , sudo aptitude dist-upgrade , was that resopnsible
[18:37] <worst> I'm trying to get my multiple monitors to work using 2 different video drivers
[18:37] <drmagoo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, have you tried 'dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current' ?
[18:38] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> will do that now ??
[18:38] <anon12> worst, switchable graphics is not very well supported in the linux kernel so you might be fighting an uphill battle to use the two cards
[18:38] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> should i sudo that?
[18:39] <worst> anon12: damn. That sucks.
[18:39] <LinuxGuy2020> How do I search the repos for a package that contains a specific file name?
[18:39] <drmagoo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, yes, sudo it
[18:39] <trism> LinuxGuy2020: apt-file
[18:39] <clik> Installing Ubuntu as a duel boot with win7. My HP laptop has 4 partitions. I need to delete a partition. Should I delete the "HP tools" partition or the "recovery" partition?
[18:39] <worst> anon12: On windows I can render using my graphics card with monitors plugged into the onboard
[18:39] <toadshadow> anyone have a fix for driver issues with the atheros 9k wireless series?
[18:39] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> dpkg-query: package 'nvidia-current' is not installed and no information is available
[18:39] <anon12> worst, some of the documentation on optimus and bumblebee should help you there was something about doing what you want that I read 8 months ago and forget where the webpage is now
[18:39] <worst> the card does the heavy lifting but is provided a slot from the motherboard
[18:40] <tigz4god> Anyone here able to ansewr some questions about setting up some symlinks to asecondary harddrive
[18:40] <worst> anon12: this is a desktop
[18:40] <toadshadow> error:  expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘rfkill_regulator_probe’
[18:40] <worst> anon12: I can get either video card working at one time but not both in extended desktop mode
[18:40] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> so install nvidia-current drmagoo?
[18:40] <worst> http://pastebin.com/V1snGGuX is my xorg.conf
[18:41] <drmagoo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, yes.. but its is a bit tricky to do so... let me run you thru the steps...
[18:41] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> im me
[18:41] <anon12> worst, optimus works with a form of switchable graphics so the solution should to getting it to work for them should also apply to you
[18:42] <worst> is it switchable only?
[18:42] <drmagoo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, you need to have the kernel-headers and build-essential package installed first
[18:42] <worst> I don't want /switchable/
[18:42] <anon12> ok
[18:42] <worst> I want to be able to drag a window across my monitors
[18:42] <drmagoo> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, the you install the nvidia-drivers
[18:42] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> just list hte commands for me
[18:42] <worst> Someone said they were positive it was possible yesterday
[18:43] <LinuxGuy2020> trism: Does apt-file work even if the package the file is contained in is not yet installed?
[18:44] <trism> LinuxGuy2020: yes
[18:45] <_Messiah_> my /dev/md2 is full, i understand this is a raid issue right
[18:45] <Marlenee> what is the default path for crontab -e
[18:46] <_Messiah_> don't know what to do?
[18:46] <lukodiablo> hey guys.. someone can help me with setup wirelles card? I'll be very happy
[18:47] <drmagoo> lukodiablo, what is the problem ? please give us some more information...
[18:47] <tigz4god> whats terminal command to access another hard drive (aka sda)
[18:48] <worst> well
[18:48] <Rory> tigz4god: mount
[18:48] <worst> tigz4god
[18:48] <worst> does it need to be mounted?
[18:48] <Rory> !mount | tigz4god
[18:48] <worst> tigz4got lsblk to see what's there and on what mount points
[18:48] <_Messiah_> My raid is pretty much messed up i think, i need to get my stuff working soon i don't know what to do can anyone help please?  http://pastie.org/private/b96qfedicta7lgxejaddta for more info
[18:49] <anon12> How do I change the lock screen background image to something different than my desktop's background image on Ubuntu 12.04 (preferably a video/.gif file if it is possible)?
[18:49] <tigz4god> Thanks
[18:49] <tigz4god> trying to make a sym link via terminal >.>
[18:50] <lukodiablo> drmagoo... i need help with setup 37573STA driver I've follow the procedure backtrack forum step by spet bud stil doesnt work
[18:50] <rypervenche> _Messiah_: cat /proc/mdstat
[18:50] <worst> tigz4god: ln -s /whatever/file   /somewhereelse/link
[18:51] <_Messiah_> rypervenche, http://pastie.org/private/bfvgy9v3pvtyhmrhsm9fya, i have 2 500gb harddrives and 1 ssd
[18:52] <rypervenche> _Messiah_: Run a fsck on the said /dev/md#
[18:52] <lukodiablo> drmagoo teh chipset is 3573sta
[18:52] <_Messiah_> rypervenche, not sure which one i'm supposed to run it on, 1 i presume?
[18:52] <frojnd> Hi there. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop and I'm wondering how to disable super (Window) key in ubuntu? Everything is default. The reason I'm asking is when I press super key I see numbers on left menu. I DON'T want this. How do I disable this?
[18:52] <rypervenche> _Messiah_: Your RAID devices are fine. It's probably a file system problem.
[18:53] <rypervenche> _Messiah_: Which one are you having problems with?
[18:53] <_Messiah_> rypervenche, i'm not entirely sure i think it could be the ssd
[18:53] <rypervenche> _Messiah_: And what mount point is /dev/md1?
[18:53] <_Messiah_> 3rd should be ssd, first 2 should be raid 0 or 1 not sure
[18:54] <rypervenche> Messenger_bird: What does "grep md1 /etc/fstab" give you?
[18:54] <drmagoo> lukodiablo, this channel is for ubuntu, go and ask for help in #backtrack-linux
[18:54] <_Messiah_> sorry rypervenche, http://pastie.org/private/itixv1nzbtdq67cjnkrcia /drive should be the ssd
[18:54] <_Messiah_> so ssd is fine.
[18:55] <rypervenche> _Messiah_: Oh, your root partition is full btw.
[18:55] <_Messiah_> Yeah i deleted files and nothings working
[18:55] <rypervenche> _Messiah_: Well first run that grep command I gave you.
[18:55] <lukodiablo> drdragoo the software is runing onder ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
[18:55] <rypervenche> _Messiah_: or simlpy cat out your /etc/fstab, that would be better.
[18:56] <_Messiah_> whichever one is simple or effective rypervenche i just need it functional as soon as possible
[18:57] <rypervenche> _Messiah_: cat /etc/fstab
[18:57] <_Messiah_> so i asume the harddrives are mirrored and the second one is full
[18:57] <garrettsallison> o
[18:57] <garrettsallison> hello
[18:57] <_Messiah_> http://pastie.org/private/jfnkmzhv3pl7plgexwta
[18:58] <_Messiah_> rypervenche ^
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO_> !eol | lukodiablo
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO_> 10.04 is eol lukodiablo
[18:59] <rypervenche> _Messiah_: Ok, let's go into PM. md1 is your swap, so that's fine. Your problem is the 100% used space.
[18:59] <frojnd> baaah
[18:59] <frojnd> C'mon how to disable window/super key shortcut in Ubuntu 12.04 (everything default)
[19:02] <lukodiablo> UBUNTU 10.04 is eol ?? but when fun lsb_release -d i get Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
[19:02] <Ca11um> Does anybody know of a Ubuntu equivalent of ASG-Remoe Desktop 2012 (visionapp)? Basically it allows you to create a tree structure of RDP connections and connect to them in tabs
[19:03] <Ponch0> Hey guys I just installed ubuntu and my network does not work at ALL, although during installation I'm able to connect to wifi and update no problem, but afterwards neither wifi nor the ethernet work.
[19:04] <__raven> do you know of any integrated audio metering tool similar to the "rtw tm9" for example?
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO_> lukodiablo LTS does not mean forever, 10.04 support has ended
[19:05] <loa> hello, if here somebody who playes dota 2 under linux?
[19:06] <loa> under ubuntu *
[19:06] <loa> I have strange problem, i think when i run dota sometimes my pc hangs so badly...
[19:06] <lukodiablo> hitsujiTMO_: okay :D
[19:06] <loa> i can't even do anything, all just hangs, can only poweroff my pc using long hold of power button
[19:07] <lukodiablo> when i run apt-get install network-manager i get.... E: Couldn't find package network-namager
[19:07] <k1l_> lukodiablo: see the typo in packages name
[19:08] <bekks> lukodiablo: Then look at your typo :)
[19:09] <lukodiablo> solve :) thanx !!
[19:10] <worst> So anyone have any idea how to setup a multi-monitor setup across 2 video cards?
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO_> worst have you tried #xorg ?
[19:12] <worst> hitsujiTMO_: No I've not
[19:12] <worst> I'll do that, thanks for the tip
[19:12] <worst> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=V1snGGuX is my xorg.conf
[19:13] <Ponch0> when I type sudo ifup eth0 or sudo ifup wlan0 I get "ignoring unknwon interface wlan0=wlan0" same thing for eth0, what's wrong with the network interface?
[19:13] <gregor3005> hi, when i make a screenshot i have the option to host it on zimagez. i created a account and all work perfect until i make new screenshots. it asked me every time for the password. can i safe it in any way?
[19:14] <gregor3005> Ponch0: now i deleted all object and i get this: www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2013-10-13-211209.php
[19:14] <peepsalot> my laptop just started requiring me to enter my password twice to unlock the screen.  one of the times it shows a different desktop background image that i don't remember ever setting.
[19:14] <peepsalot> any ideas what could cause this
[19:14] <gregor3005> Ponch0: is it possible to get a list of all objects?
[19:15] <gregor3005> sry wrong channel, LOL
[19:15] <gregor3005> Ponch0: sorry
[19:15] <Ponch0> its ok
[19:23] <FesterJester> Which glade package should I use in Ubuntu 10.04?
[19:23] <darkeyes> someone help me
[19:23] <cgtdk> !details | darkeyes
[19:23] <tigz4god> with?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> !eol | FesterJester
[19:24] <auronandace> FesterJester: 10.04 is only supported on server now
[19:24] <darkeyes> ok cgtdk
[19:25] <malkface> my gcc doesn't seem to accept -l arguments before -o arguments
[19:25] <FesterJester> Yes, I understand that, but I wish to continue using it anyway
[19:25] <likemike> Hi
[19:25] <malkface> which seems to break a lot of Makefiles
[19:25] <malkface> how to fix
[19:25] <likemike> I am new to this. Why should i start using linux ?
[19:25] <auronandace> FesterJester: then you can't get support here
[19:26] <FesterJester> @auronandace: where may I then?
[19:26] <[Gentoo]> likemike: because its good
[19:26] <auronandace> FesterJester: not here
[19:26] <malkface> or doesn't anyone know how to get voice in #gcc
[19:26] <malkface> *does
[19:27] <likemike> why is it good ? i mean what does it offer to me ?
[19:27] <Myrtti> malkface: you need to register to nickserv
[19:27] <malkface> right duh thanks
[19:27] <Myrtti> malkface: they mute unidentified users.
[19:27] <auronandace> likemike: what are you looking for?
[19:27] <FesterJester> Does anyone know where to get assistance with Ubuntu 10.04 desktop?
[19:27] <Calinou> FesterJester: it is not supported -- please upgrade, you won't regret it :)
[19:27] <[Gentoo]> likemike: this is more of a thing you'd google
[19:27] <Calinou> at least 12.04
[19:28] <Calinou> only server edition is supported
[19:28] <[Gentoo]> likemike: as there's so much
[19:28] <Calinou> until april 2015
[19:28] <Myrtti> FesterJester: it's a quite telling sign when Ubuntu and Canonical don't support it beyond helping you to upgrade it.
[19:28] <bekks> FesterJester: Nowhere, since it isnt supported since April 2013 anymore. The server version still is supported.
[19:28] <tigz4god> lol
[19:28] <FesterJester> I can not stand the unity desktop and will not use it
[19:28] <tigz4god> but...he wnats to use it
[19:28] <darkeyes> I am trying to access a different computer with remote desktopp but I recieve a message saying that my desktop is only reachable over the local network, I want to access the computer via internet but since that I have a private IP and an external one, the connection is refused
[19:28] <Myrtti> FesterJester: then use Xubuntu or Lubuntu, or Ubuntu Gnome, or Kubuntu even.
[19:28] <likemike> [Gentoo]:I did google but i can't find a reason why it's better lets say comparing to Solaris or BSD
[19:29] <bekks> darkeyes: Then you have to configure portforwardings in your router.
[19:29] <BluesKaj> FesterJester. no need to use unity , gnome shell , cinnamon
[19:29] <[Gentoo]> likemike: just try it and see
[19:29] <FesterJester> @BluesKaj: why?
[19:29] <RandomUsr> likemike, try this - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+should+I+use+Linux
[19:29] <[Gentoo]> if youl ike  it or not
[19:30] <darkeyes> bekks: The thing is that I don't have a router, I don't have control of the external IP
[19:30] <BluesKaj> FesterJester. whynot :)
[19:30] <bekks> darkeyes: Using a router, you dont have control about the external IP, either.
[19:30] <likemike> [Gentoo]: i am installing it in vbox
[19:30] <RandomUsr> Is it just me, or is it kind of difficult to determine why someone else would like Linux
[19:30] <likemike> it's quite slow and unresponsive
[19:30] <bekks> darkeyes: However, you have to create portforwardings.
[19:30] <likemike> the gui is so terrible that it makes me to vomit
[19:30] <[Gentoo]> likemike: good idea, it's better to try it yourself
[19:31] <[Gentoo]> likemike: theres loads of guis
[19:31] <FesterJester> Ok, let me try this then. Which glade package should I use for Ubuntu-Gnome 13.04?
[19:31] <darkeyes> beks: I search on google and did something with ssh
[19:31] <RandomUsr> likemike, if you have a functional issue with the GUI you're using, people here are willing to help
[19:32] <likemike> RandomUsr: i don't have a functional issue it's just does not look good for me
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO_> likemike: then use one that does
[19:32] <RandomUsr> likemike, if you'd like to be stylish, then perhaps you should visit the mall?
[19:32] <likemike> Well i see there is Unity and KDE
[19:32] <[Gentoo]> when unity and windows 8 first came out like 99% of people hated the gui now people deal with it
[19:33] <tigz4god> is there a simple way to put a diffrent background on each monitor for duel monitors?
[19:33] <darkeyes> bekks: What is exactly port forwarding
[19:33] <RandomUsr> !unity | likemike
[19:33] <RandomUsr> !KDE | likemike
[19:33] <likemike> but both does not look very good
[19:33] <_Trullo> my problem with windows 8 is that I never see my desktops
[19:33] <likemike> dont't*
[19:33] <[Gentoo]> likemike: what type are you after? a classic xp style windows look?
[19:33] <bekks> darkeyes: a mechanism that will allow someone to access a port on your external IP to be forwarded to a port on an internal IP.
[19:34] <likemike> [Gentoo]: unified design, skeumorphism
[19:34]  * [Gentoo] googles that word
[19:34] <Rory> Why does it take a few minutes, or a restart, for newly installed applications to become searchable in the Dash?
[19:34] <RandomUsr> likemike, have you search wikipedia for a listing of desktop environments? There are quite a few
[19:35] <FesterJester> @likemike: take a look at this http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[19:35] <darkeyes> bekks: yes but doesn't that external IP used for many other users?
[19:35] <RandomUsr> likemike, you could also view demonstrations on youtube to determine which DE looks pretty and cool
[19:35] <[Gentoo]> darkeyes: thats why you use different ports
[19:35] <FesterJester> @likemike: these are the officially supported desktop environments Ubuntu supports
[19:35] <likemike> RandomUsr: yes i that was the first thing i did
[19:36] <cvtsx> hi
[19:36] <likemike> And one more thing...do i need to update all my applications at once ?
[19:36] <cvtsx> no
[19:36] <cvtsx> you do not
[19:36] <darkeyes> Gentoo: But how do I know that the port I'll choose is not in use
[19:36] <[Gentoo]> darkeyes: check with nmap / netstat etc
[19:36] <[Gentoo]> if you dont know
[19:37] <likemike> darkeyes: telnet 0 <port>
[19:37] <subz3r0> netstat -tulpen
[19:37] <RandomUsr> likemike, perhaps you should view Nixie Pixel's linux videos, she is very hot girl and makes good linux video
[19:38] <likemike> i am also bothered about security
[19:38] <likemike> should i be ?
[19:38] <[Gentoo]> not really
[19:38] <darkeyes> Gentoo: so how do I forward a port
[19:38] <[Gentoo]> are you coming from windows?
[19:38] <likemike> yes
[19:39] <amir_> hi all
[19:39] <subz3r0> !iptables | darkeyes
[19:39] <RandomUsr> oh boy
[19:39] <Guest83589> any body here know python ?
[19:39] <subz3r0> yes, its a snake
[19:39] <[Gentoo]> its different, in terms of viruses on windows you download programs from wherever on the web on linux you normally use a package manager
[19:39] <RandomUsr> lmao beat me to it
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO_> Guest83589: yes, but have you tried #python ?
[19:39] <likemike> what if the repositories ar compromised ?
[19:40] <likemike> are*
[19:40] <subz3r0> some kind of...
[19:40] <RandomUsr> likemike, I'm going to try to humor you for a moment, what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:40] <Pop-Tart> Hiya! I've got Ubuntu 13.04 x86 on a CD. I want to downgrade to 12.04 LTS. Would you recommend installing 13.04 and trying to downgrade or using Wubi for it? I want it to pure Ubuntu and get rid of Windows.
[19:40] <subz3r0> likemike: please continue this conversation in the offtopic channel. thanks
[19:41] <FesterJester> @likemike: What if windows updates is compromised?
[19:41] <likemike> RandomUsr: i am trying to get answers if it's any benefical for me to switch to linux
[19:41] <subz3r0> FesterJester: ...
[19:41] <likemike> FesterJester: then i can sue MS !
[19:41] <bazhang> !ot | likemike
[19:41] <[Gentoo]> likemike: youll find all this stuff on google, things like security etc are way too broad for irc
[19:41] <FesterJester> @likemike: actually no you cant
[19:41] <bazhang> Pop-Tart, you mean dvd?
[19:42] <lukodiablo> someone cvan help me with setup the usb WLAN 3573STA ?
[19:42] <RandomUsr> likemike, each OS has it's ups and downs and this isn't something anyone can answer for you
[19:42] <likemike> ok lets move to offtopic
[19:42] <Pop-Tart> Yeah, I've got it on a DVD. I don't have any spare DVDs to burn 12.04 LTS though.
[19:42] <darkeyes> So in order to forward a port I will need to know the IP of the computer that will try to connect to mine
[19:42] <bazhang> lukodiablo, what version of ubuntu
[19:43] <RandomUsr> has anyone here seen Stallman's comments on Ubuntu?  (specifically Youtube?)
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO_> Pop-Tart: if you have a usb you can also install from that
[19:43] <bazhang> Pop-Tart, best to just install over with 12.04, preserving home, and skip Wubi
[19:43] <[Gentoo]> RandomUsr: yes
[19:44] <cgtdk> RandomUsr: yes
[19:44] <bazhang> RandomUsr, no, thats offtopic here
[19:44] <RandomUsr> Gentoo, what was your take on it?
[19:44] <Pop-Tart> Technically, I could, but I don't exactly have modern hardware. I can't boot from USB.
[19:44] <RandomUsr> oops lol
[19:44] <cgtdk> !offtopic | RandomUsr
[19:44] <bazhang> Pop-Tart, okay well preserve home, use a dvd, and avoid wubi
[19:44] <darkeyes> Gentoo: Can you please explain me the process how to access remote computer that has an external IP, I am just so confused
[19:45] <_Messiah_> thank you for your help rypervenche! been really helpfull
[19:45] <rypervenche> _Messiah_: No problem :)
[19:45] <Pop-Tart> That's just it, I can't boot from USB and I don't have a spare DVD.
[19:45] <bazhang> Pop-Tart, whats preventing you from getting some
[19:46] <Pop-Tart> The drive to town is a three hours away.
[19:47] <Pop-Tart> Couldn't I just use Wubi to install the LTS, use Gparted to delete the Windows partition and use update-grub?
[19:47] <Myrtti> Pop-Tart: no.
[19:47] <Pop-Tart> or is that a bad idea?
[19:47] <subz3r0> re
[19:47] <Myrtti> baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea.
[19:47] <subz3r0> got any answer to my question while i was gone?
[19:47] <subz3r0> "on grub... what would grub (3,2) mean? grub starts with 0. so it would be /dev/sdd3, right? :>"
[19:47] <rypervenche> Pop-Tart: Wubi is not a real installation.
[19:47] <Pop-Tart> Oh, I see.
[19:47] <Myrtti> you couldn't even do it
[19:48] <Myrtti> as wubi installs Ubuntu into a filesystem inside a file inside the Windows partition
[19:48] <subz3r0> !grub | subz3r0
[19:48] <Myrtti> or something very close to that effect
[19:48] <Pop-Tart> oh
[19:48] <subz3r0> no idea? any1? :>
[19:48] <Myrtti> and so in the end, if the Windows partition goes pearshaped, you wouldn't have any tools to sort that filesystem
[19:49] <worst> subz3r0: what's the question?
[19:49] <Pop-Tart> dang
[19:49] <subz3r0> "on grub... what would grub (3,2) mean? grub starts with 0. so it would be /dev/sdd3, right? :>"
[19:49] <Pop-Tart> So just use 13.04 and keep it updated
[19:49] <worst> I (believe) but am not certain
[19:49] <Myrtti> Pop-Tart: and for this particular reason even the creators of Wubi don't recommend it beyond demoing it to people for few weeks at max
[19:49] <worst> that it would be sdc2
[19:50] <Ponch0> hey guys I'm having issues with internet on my new ubuntu installation, I get "FATAL: module RTL8723AE not found."
[19:50] <worst> well
[19:50] <Myrtti> if it's meant to be a permanent solution, then some other method of installation should be used.
[19:50] <worst> 3 since it would have 0 as well
[19:50] <subz3r0> worst: will do my lpi tomorrow.  only thing i wasnt sure about. so thats why im asking
[19:50] <darkeyes> How do I forward a port
[19:50]  * zykotick9 thinks VirtualBox is a better solution then Wubi...
[19:51] <worst> darkeyes: you would ahve to do it from your router's configuration apge
[19:51] <MArat> hello guys,can you help me, I'm looking for a good program for ubuntu to mount algorithms, you know some?
[19:51] <subz3r0> worst: 0 = a, 1 = b, 2 = c, 3 = d. but not sure if its the same for the partitions
[19:51] <Pop-Tart> It's been a few years since I've used Ubuntu, so could you do me a favor and remind me? If I installed 13.04 would the update manager give a notification telling me to upgrade to 13.10? The install isn't specifically for me, it's for a few-tech illiterates in my family, that's why I wanted the LTS version.
[19:52] <subz3r0> Pop-Tart: yes
[19:52] <darkeyes> worst: I don't have a router, the thing is that I want to connect another computer with remote desktop, but I have two IP external and private
[19:52] <Myrtti> Pop-Tart: yes it would, because 13.04 isn't LTS
[19:52] <Pop-Tart> Or would I have to do sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:52] <Pop-Tart> Alright, thanks
[19:52] <subz3r0> Anyways... I would recommend using the LTS all the time
[19:52] <MArat> hello guys,can you help me, I'm looking for a good program for ubuntu to mount algorithms, you know some?
[19:52] <worst> darkeyes: You connect directly your modem?
[19:53] <Pop-Tart> Sorry about that, I realize I could've worded my sentences better, so sorry for any confusion.
[19:53] <darkeyes> worst: That's correct
[19:53] <worst> darkeyes: then you shouldn't have to do more than allowing the program you need access through your firewall
[19:54] <worst> darkeyes: you can use this to confirm if your port is properly opened
[19:54] <worst> http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
[19:54] <darkeyes> worst: which port do I check
[19:54] <worst> darkeyes: that's entirely dependent on what you're planning on hosting
[19:55] <worst> darkeyes: vnc defautls to 5900 so you could try that if you're doing remote desktop
[19:55] <darkeyes> worst: I am tring to use vnc, port 5900 and it says that the port is closed, the external IP is 190.56.254.197
[19:56] <worst> darkeyes: Do you happen to have a firewall of some sort runnign?
[19:56] <darkeyes> worst: well I think that no because I am new in linux
[19:57] <darkeyes> worst: when I run ifconfig I have a different IP
[19:57] <worst> darkeyes: what is that IP?
[19:58] <darkeyes> worst: 10.135.244.1
[19:59] <worst> darkeyes: that is a private IP. Most modems don't give you those. It sounds like it may be what's filtering your net
[19:59] <worst> darkeyes: enter the IP of your modem in a browser
[20:00] <darkeyes> worst: unable to connect
[20:00] <blackdog> g'day all - having a bit of trouble with a raring->saucy upgrade. do-release-upgrade tells me it couldn't calculate the upgrade, and /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log has this: 2013-10-14 06:57:06,757 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'The package 'unity' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist.'
[20:00] <worst> darkeyes: hm, not too sure unfortionately
[20:01] <blackdog> unity is installed already, not sure why it's being marked for removal (though i don't use it) - any ideas on where i could investigate further?
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> blackdog, You have any ppa's?
[20:01] <blackdog> wilee-nilee: yes
[20:01] <blackdog> wilee-nilee: move them out of the way and try again?
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO_> !saucy | blackdog
[20:02] <darkeyes> worst: I heard something about port forwarding with ssh
[20:02] <blackdog> hitsujiTMO_: ah, cheers.
[20:02] <worst> darkeyes: yes, that's called a ssh tunnel
[20:02] <Marlenee> how i Setting up two SSH server ssh daemon instances
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> blackdog, I woould use the ubgrade manager go to software sources and set it for any upgrade it will turn off the ppa's you may have modified a bit to much and may need to back some of those ppa's with ppa-purge, just a bgvuess though.
[20:02] <RandomUsr> can someone tell me if the Terminals at Ctrl + F1 through F6 have different run levels?
[20:02] <worst> darkeyes: but you would still need an open port somewhere.
[20:03] <blackdog> wilee-nilee: cheers, i'll try that.
[20:03] <worst> darkeyes: either on your or the computer that you're trying to connect to
[20:03] <RandomUsr> I mean Ctrl + Alt + F key
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> blackdog, sorry for the spelling there, does that make sense.
[20:03] <darkeyes> worst: so there is no way I can connect to a computer with that external IP
[20:04] <darkeyes> worst: Is the ISP the responsable for that?
[20:04] <worst> darkeyes: I would think \there must be a way for you to open the ports, unfortionately though I'm not really sure how
[20:05] <darkeyes> worst: An static IP would give me control of that right?
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO_> RandomUsr: what exactly do you mean by runlevel? i'm not sure if you're talking about ubuntu run levels given your context
[20:05] <worst> darkeyes: Not certainly. A static IP is just a set IP that doesn't change
[20:06] <worst> darkeyes: the ports could still be closed the same as any dynamic IP
[20:06] <Tylertwo> RandomUsr, Afaik they're the same
[20:06] <Stiwy> Cyaoo a tutti!!
[20:06] <darkeyes> worst: So even though I use an Static IP, I might be using and external IP to connect to the Internet
[20:06] <subz3r0> wilee-nilee: maybe you could confirm that grub legacy starts with zero? Like Grub (3,2) is /dev/sdd3?
[20:07] <worst> darkeyes: Perhaps you can call your ISP just to ask if they block you or not?
[20:07] <darkeyes> worst: well I am using a modem from I phone company
[20:09] <worst> darkeyes: what's the company?
[20:09] <RandomUsr> hitsujiTMO: I was wondering if using say, Ctrl + Alt + Any F key would change your runlevel or can that only be accomplished at boot?
[20:09] <darkeyes> worst: Claro
[20:09] <liquidmetal> I have an ubuntu server. I consistently see <5% cpu usage. I'm thinking of running more servers on this machine to improve performance of my website
[20:09] <liquidmetal> would that be a good idea?
[20:10] <worst> darkeyes: they don't block your port, I just looked it up
[20:10] <worst> darkeyes: so the issue is local
[20:10] <Tylertwo> RandomUsr, check out http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/83336/relationship-among-runlevels-and-virtual-terminals-tty
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO_> RandomUsr: ubuntu only has 1 runlevel for userspace: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel#Ubuntu
[20:10] <darkeyes> worst: how did you figure that out
[20:10] <worst> darkeyes: I googled their name and "port blocking"
[20:11] <worst> they only block a few ports
[20:12] <darkeyes> worst: so port 5900 is blocked because in http://www.yougetsignal.com is saying that
[20:12] <worst> darkeyes: yes, but it sounds liek it's being blocked by your modem or computer rather than your ISP
[20:13] <darkeyes> worst: do you know how to unblock it
[20:13] <RandomUsr> Tylertwo: then could I change runlevels while the OS is running?
[20:13] <worst> darkeyes: I don't really know :/
[20:13] <worst> darkeyes: sorry
[20:13] <bazhang> !runlevels | RandomUsr
[20:14] <bazhang> !portforward | darkeyes
[20:14] <darkeyes> worst: It's ok, so a port forwarding is just a way to access my private IP using an external one correct
[20:14] <Tylertwo> RandomUsr, I'm not sure.
[20:14] <RandomUsr> bazhang: I'm confused, how is that a good thing?
[20:15] <darkeyes> ubottu: thaks!
[20:15] <darkeyes> bazhang: Have you do that before
[20:16] <Stiwy> ce qualke italiana
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO_> RandomUsr, to change the runlevel is to change the state of the OS. 0 is halt(shutdown), 1 is single user mode (root tasks only run), 2 is user mode, 3 -5 are not used, 6 is reboot
[20:16] <bazhang> Stiwy, #ubuntu-it
[20:17] <bazhang> darkeyes, check that website
[20:17] <worst> Does anyone know what I should put into xorg to use the intel vaapi drivers?
[20:17] <worst> I just need the driver name
[20:17] <darkeyes> bazhang: ok
[20:17] <RandomUsr> hitsujiTMO: are there not times when it would be helpful to change runlevels? and why are 3 - 5 not used?
[20:18] <darkeyes> Ok I am leaving, thanks for the help, good afternoon>
[20:20] <RandomUsr> Also, when I switch to any tty specifically, my Ten key doesn't seem to work correctly. Is there a way to validate this config or setup my keyboard for the console?
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO_> RandomUsr: not sure why, thats a decision that you'd have to ask the upstart team
[20:21] <RandomUsr> Ah
[20:23] <mydog2> morn...
[20:23] <RandomUsr> Well that's interesting, why does the Unity desktop disappear when disabling Expo?
[20:23] <mydog2> question regarding the mv command... as well as the tar command
[20:24] <RandomUsr> And if I use unity --reset, Unity returns...
[20:24] <mydog2> if you have a process writing to a file.. and you do a sys mv/tar will the mv tar give a warning, or exclude the file if it's being written to by another process.. or is there a way to exclude files in use when tarring/mving.. can't find anything in the docs regarding this
[20:24] <mydog2> thanks
[20:24] <vixxo> hi guys, does anyone know if the "Online Account" integration with owncloud available on gnome shell 3.8 is also available on Unity ?
[20:24] <RandomUsr> is it possible to keep unity and use the desktop cube with Expo disabled?
[20:25] <jon8> This is an error that I get http://gyazo.com/4894a16f7a1a1f8f88a457a3b2c4ff28 when trying to edit a file via WinSCP after following this tutorial http://tinyurl.com/kuqmuny -- Any thoughts?
[20:26] <RandomUsr> checking good old google for this one
[20:28] <benishor> Hi all. I upgraded today from 13.04 to 13.10 and ran into the following issue: I have a simple opengl + freeglut3 program that compiles just fine, but at runtime yields:  Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-version.c: 224: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!
[20:28] <benishor> can anybody help me out with this please?
[20:29] <benishor> it seems to be triggered by having glut linked
[20:29] <cgtdk> benishor: #ubuntu+1
[20:29] <vixxo> hi guys, does anyone know if the "Online Account" integration with owncloud available on gnome shell 3.8 is also available on Unity ?
[20:29] <benishor> 10x cgtdk
[20:29] <cgtdk> benishor: what does that mean?
[20:29] <benishor> cgtdk: 10x = thank you
[20:29] <cgtdk> I see. You're welcome.
[20:30] <ramone> kaj sad
[20:31] <krabador> hi , i need to delete the lxpanel on lubuntu 13.04
[20:31] <KeyboardNotFound> I have one orange circle in right top angle, when I click it I see message "There are 2 updates available", but when I click Show updates I see message "software on this computer is up to date..."
[20:31] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I fix it ?
[20:32] <RandomUsr> hitsujiTMO_ : wow, this whole time there's never been any issues with my Proprietary Nvidia driver... It's been a problems with CCSM and unity not liking my settings
[20:33] <steef> hy?
[20:33] <RandomUsr> sincerley considering a return to fedora...
[20:34] <cgtdk> RandomUsr: or you could continue to use Ubuntu but with something other than Unity
[20:34] <Calinou> yes
[20:34] <Calinou> also CCSM can cause a lot of issues if badly used
[20:34] <RandomUsr> cgtdk: i suppose so
[20:34] <Calinou> really, a lot.
[20:35] <RandomUsr> is Unity built and use with Gnome, or it's own DE?
[20:35] <cgtdk> RandomUsr: Unity is a compiz plugin
[20:35] <cgtdk> iirc
[20:35] <cgtdk> it does use GTK
[20:35] <cgtdk> also iirc
[20:35] <RandomUsr> iirc?
[20:35] <Calinou> if I recall correctly
[20:35] <cgtdk> "if I remember correctly"
[20:35] <cgtdk> yeah
[20:36] <cgtdk> recall
[20:36] <Calinou> in the same sort: AFAIK: as far as I know
[20:36] <ese> its ok if in sudoers file i set username ALL NOPASSWD /path/to/sudo ?
[20:36] <RandomUsr> I think I just want to get rid of unity
[20:36] <cgtdk> Calinou: afaik is slightly sifferent
[20:36] <Calinou> why? :P
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> ese, bad idea
[20:36] <cgtdk> RandomUsr: There are many options. Gnome, Xfce, etc.
[20:36] <Calinou> yeah, xfce is great
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> !sudo | ese
[20:36] <ese> but only username will have the NOPASSWD DEAL
[20:37] <RandomUsr> cftdk: I thought Gnome was already installed?
[20:37] <cgtdk> RandomUsr: Not Gnome shell
[20:37] <ese> wilee-nilee,  i dont want sudo to askme a passwd no more
[20:37] <cgtdk> the libraries are, but they hardly constitute a DE
[20:37] <cgtdk> some of them anyway, I don't know the details
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> ese, then use a OS that runs that way, we don't support that here.
[20:38] <RandomUsr> cftdk: I don't understand? Not gnome shell?
[20:38] <ese> wilee-nilee, but i love ubuntu, its the passwd deal to sudo me whats is annoying
[20:38] <cgtdk> RandomUsr: Gnome shell is the standard Gnome interface since GNOME 3
[20:39] <cgtdk> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Shell
[20:39] <RandomUsr> guess i haven't been paying decent attention
[20:39] <RandomUsr> If I uninstall unity, what am I left with?
[20:40] <cgtdk> RandomUsr: there is also some kind of fallback mode that is more like the old Gnome
[20:40] <RandomUsr> Gnome Shell?
[20:40] <cgtdk> RandomUsr: no, you have to install that
[20:40] <RandomUsr> oh
[20:40] <krabador> please help
[20:40] <krabador> i need to leave lxpanel on my lubuntu session
[20:41] <RandomUsr> ok what's the difference between Unity 2d panel? Unity 2d? and Unity 2d shell?
[20:42] <cgtdk> Unity 2D is a fallback mode I think
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO_> RandomUsr: unity2d does not actually exist anymore, its a dummy package
[20:43] <sudo_> hey guys
[20:45] <Reacto> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 13.04 _Raring Ringtail_ - Release amd64 (20130424)/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[20:46] <Reacto> While running apt-get update, what does this mean?
[20:46] <krabador> i deleted the @lxpanel on /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart but nothing
[20:47] <Reacto> nvm, fixed it
[20:48] <sudo_> can I install Ubuntu Touch on any device which has CyanogenMOD installed?
[20:48] <bazhang> sudo_, #ubuntu-touch
[20:49] <sudo_> tank you bazhang
[20:49] <sudo_> *thank
[20:50] <Reacto> If I have Win8 and Ubuntu dualbooted and want to upgrade to the 13.10 beta, do I have to do anything so grub doesnt bug when I install 13.10+
[20:50] <Reacto> ?*
[20:50] <Reacto> or does the installer fix it by itself
[20:51] <worst> reacto: you're all good
[20:51] <jon8> No one can help? this is an error that I get http://gyazo.com/4894a16f7a1a1f8f88a457a3b2c4ff28 when trying to edit a file via WinSCP after following this tutorial http://tinyurl.com/kuqmuny -- Any thoughts? Please help
[20:51] <Reacto> k
[20:51] <worst> just install the update, your loader will be fine
[20:53] <worst> jon8: what kind of access do you have?
[20:53] <Wug> worst: the insufficient kind probably.
[20:53] <tasslehoff> I tried setting "UseDNS no" in my sshd_config, and can't login to my server anymore. Anything to do besides connecting keyboard and monitor?
[20:54] <worst> tasslehoff: is the box pingable?
[20:54] <jon8> worst, i have root on the server.. but i'm using a user account and i followed the tutorial to set the account up using that tutorial to access /var/www correctly..
[20:54] <scrub> can someone explain to me what "init.d" actually does? <--- noob over here
[20:54] <tasslehoff> worst: yes
[20:55] <Wug> jon8: can you post the ls -l of /var/www
[20:55] <Wug> scrub: it's the old way of starting programs at specific runlevels
[20:55] <worst> tasslehoff and what happens when you try to ssh in?
[20:55] <jon8> Wug, yes
[20:55] <Wug> in laymans terms, it's for starting programs when you boot or shutdown the computer
[20:55] <worst> tasslehoff: Does it give you a login prompt or does it just not connect at all?
[20:56] <Wug> for new things, you should use upstart instead, though the old init.d system does still function.
[20:56] <jon8> Wug, http://pastebin.com/j9PZGJKX
[20:56] <tasslehoff> worst: connection refused on port 22, so I suspect maybe I had a typo in the ssh config
[20:57] <Wug> jon8: I don't see header.php in there. where is that file/
[20:57] <scrub> what are the commands to interface with "upstart", i dont know the new syntax involved, ive been in the army for so long its effectively rotted my brain
[20:57] <worst> tasslehoff: if it's refusing connection there's not much I could see you being able to do
[20:57] <Wug> also, can you grab the permissions of the directory itself too?
[20:57] <worst> tasslehoff you'll have to hook in I'd think
[20:57] <jon8> Wug, its under a subdirectory.. one second ill give a pastebin of that as well.
[20:57] <tasslehoff> worst: suspected so, but just wanted to check. thanks
[20:58] <Wug> scrub: runlevels are not something I have a memorized explanation of
[20:58] <worst> tasslehoff: no problem, best of luck
[20:58] <jon8> Wug, http://pastebin.com/w1iJT0yu
[20:58] <Wug> but there are officially 6 of them
 I'm trying to setup multiple monitors across my onboard intel chip and my 7970
 I configured it the best I could, but the monitor on the intel doesn't function properly if the others are there
 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=V1snGGuX
[20:58] <Wug> corresponding to different parts of the life cycle of the operating system session on the computer
[20:59] <Wug> runlevel 5 I think is "everything is started and running", and most of the things you do when you use the computer are in runlevel 5
[20:59] <Wug> earlier runlevels happen as part of the boot process, and runlevel 6 happens as part of the shutdown process.  I think.
[20:59] <scrub> hmm interesting
[20:59] <krabador> help
[21:00] <krabador> i need to delete the lxpanel on lubunut
[21:00] <bekks> Using upstart, there arent runlevels anymore, as they had been before.
[21:00] <krabador> i deleted the @lxpanel on /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart but nothing
[21:00] <jon8> Wug, http://pastebin.com/w1iJT0yu is where header.php is located
[21:00] <Wug> jon8: I think you can probably safely ignore that error
[21:01] <Wug> you can't change the permissions of the file unless you're the owner
[21:01] <RemsSs> hi everybody
[21:01] <jon8> Wug, the error is safely ignored, and the file does write to disk.. but i'm trying to get rid of the error so the client doesn't report it. i can't find the option the client i'm using talks about to ignore it..
[21:01] <Wug> (or superuser)
[21:01] <jon8> Wug, it's a vm install of Lubuntu on my home machine.. i can change anything if it will help..
[21:01] <jon8> Wug, i'm about to change all of /var/www/* to be owned by my user account?
[21:02] <Wug> have you looked into the "ignore permissions error" setting on winscp?
[21:02] <scrub> so how does the file structure work? if programs are running somewhere between 1 and 4, where does the "home" folder kick in? it isnt a constantly running process so i assume it has nothing to do with init.d. i know in windows it starts with c:\. in linux does it start with /etc/?
[21:02] <RandomUsr> is anyone here using 4 monitors along with the Nvidia drivers?
[21:02] <jon8> Wug, I've looked over the entire WinSCP client and cannot find that option like it mentions in the dialog error box..
[21:03] <Wug> jon8: http://winscp.net/eng/docs/ui_transfer_custom#upload_options
[21:03] <Wug> scrub: I don't remember that much about it, but it's a thoroughly documented topic
[21:03] <Wug> you should be able to google "how do I use init.d" or something like that and get a bunch of useful results
[21:04] <Wug> maybe also try man init.d
[21:04] <Wug> the man page is called something else, hold on while I find it
[21:04] <bekks> !upstart | scrub
[21:04] <bekks> scrub: upstart is the way to go nowadays.
[21:05] <Wug> looks like it
[21:06] <Wug> it's man init. but bekks is right, use upstart if you're making something new.
[21:06] <jon8> Wug, I got it. Finally found a "Perserve Timestamp" option buried very deep in WinSCPs preferences dialog tree. Thanks sir.
[21:08] <Cadd> hi
[21:08] <Guest21388> i am new here
[21:09] <scrub> yeah sorry, i realize how potentially inconsiderate it may seem to people that im asking such obvious questions in a chatroom instead of googling them (or duckduckgo'ing) myself. But the answer i seem to stumble upon are incoherent, old or... just incoherent. i apologize.
[21:10] <Guest21388> someone help me
[21:10] <Guest21388> not usefull i think
[21:10] <jmgk> ~help
[21:11] <bekks> Guest21388: you have to ask a specific question before someone being able to help you :)
[21:11] <jmgk> hm
[21:12] <devil__> and it best be a debian related question :)
[21:12] <bazhang> !fhs | scrub
[21:12] <bazhang> devil__, you mean ubuntu
[21:12] <Guest21388> ok so basically we don't know here anyone
[21:12] <galamar> Hello everyone. Is there a room for ZevenOS?
[21:13] <bazhang> Guest21388, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:13] <bazhang> !alis | galamar
[21:13] <devil__> bazhang: ups, wrong channel :)
[21:15] <Guest21388> not exactly but this is a new thing for me IRC chat , & its little bit less user friendly
[21:16] <bazhang> Guest21388, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat, here for ubuntu support
[21:17] <Guest123> thank you for the support
[21:18] <James_Epp> I kinda need a crash course on file association fixing. I installed a program, keepassx. It uses the extension .kdbx. I had to manually set the files this program uses to .kdbx by default. Now, all files without extensions want to open with the keepassx program. This is very frustrating as I cannot open other files without manually doing so with gedit. How can I set these associations differently than with nautilus?
[21:21] <hylian> hello all
[21:21] <James_Epp> ......curious, this bug only occurs in the SFTP connection I have to another machine. I guess I'll just edit the files on my local directories and copy them to the other machine when complete.
[21:22] <misternumberone> hello
[21:23] <misternumberone> is anyone here
[21:23] <James_Epp> misternumberone: Many people are here :)
[21:23] <misternumberone> right now
[21:23] <misternumberone> ok
[21:24] <misternumberone> does anybody want to solve a problem?
[21:24] <James_Epp> misternumberone: !ask
[21:24] <James_Epp> !ask
[21:24] <sporkeee> misternumberone: this is support not chat if you have an issue state it.
[21:24] <misternumberone> ok
[21:24] <misternumberone> !ask
[21:25] <misternumberone> ok
[21:26] <monkwitdafunk> Hi #ubuntu, where can i find the firefox plugins included with ubuntu12.04.2 for another distro?
[21:27] <Raging> Any VM Dudes in here please i need help
[21:27] <sporkeee> monkwitdafunk: what plugins?
[21:27] <monkwitdafunk> I can only find flash, quicktime, windows media and divx
[21:27] <bekks> Raging: Then ask a specific question
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Raging, ask the question
[21:28] <sporkeee> monkwitdafunk: be specific.
[21:29] <crimsonmane> is this channel the best to use for ubuntu-server assistance?
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> #ubuntu-server could be better
[21:29] <k1l_> crimsonmane: you could ask here or in #ubuntu-server
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> but you can ask here too
[21:29] <monkwitdafunk> Flash, quicktime, windows media and divx are included in ubuntu but cannot be found as a package or tarball for other distros
[21:29] <crimsonmane> ty k1l_
[21:30] <k1l_> MonkeyDust: this is ubuntu support. to get those mentioned plugins for other distros please ask the specific distro support
[21:30] <k1l_> monkwitdafunk: ^
[21:31] <bazhang> !vm | Raging
[21:32] <worst> monkwitdafunk: I'll message you
[21:35] <Nelluk> so ive got a VPS that runs Ubuntu, and i want to set up a good development environment for it on my OSX laptop. trying to figure out the best way to go
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> Nelluk: that would be dependant on what exactly you're developing
[21:35] <Nelluk> i dont know if i should install Ubuntu on a VM, or just get the OSX tools set up similarly as the VPS, or SSH in
[21:36] <Nelluk> a project in PHP+MySQL+Symfony2 framework
[21:36] <Nelluk> so far ive been SSHing it but it has plenty of disadvantages
[21:37] <blackdog> is there a way to sync an iphone with a music app on ubuntu 12.10? I know it's not ideal, just checking in to see if wine is still the answer.
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> Nelluk what ide/editor do you use?
[21:37] <ikonia> wine is never the answer
[21:38] <misternumberone> Using clean install of vanilla ubuntu 13.04 (kernel 3.8) on an Acer AO751H (Atom Z520, GMA 500, 1GB DDR2), graphical performance is abysmal; the desktop itself seems to run under 5FPS. The forums are no help, as the solutions are for 12.04 and don't seem to work. I understand the GMA500 is intrinsically flawed, but I wanted to use 13.04 on it.
[21:38] <blackdog> ikonia: :) it's rarely a _good_ answer, but i burned a day on this a few months ago.
[21:38] <Nelluk> hitsujiTMO: right now it is Coda on the Mac but I am looking at moving to PhpStorm because of its Symfony support
[21:38] <ikonia> blackdog: wine is never the answer
[21:39] <blackdog> ikonia: got a better one, then?
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> Nelluk: unfortunately I'm not familiar with either, but most have an option to specify a build script, which you could write to auto upload everything over sftp in a single keystroke ...
[21:40] <ikonia> blackdog: use windows or a mac with itunes
[21:40] <blackdog> Nelluk: one option is using sshfs.
[21:40] <Nelluk> hitsujiTMO: yeah PhpStorm has the ability to upload files to the server automatically, but to really take advantage of the debugging and code completion capabilities i need it to be editing a local Symfony project with php and apache configured the same was as they are on the VPS
[21:40] <blackdog> ikonia: yeah, that's not an option. I can't afford the weight of carrying two computers just to sync a phone.
[21:41] <blackdog> looks like it's either wine+itunes or virtualbox+windows+itunes
[21:41] <Nelluk> blackdog: I think PhpStorm does not recommend that because it doesnt like when its access to 'local' files is laggy
[21:42] <blackdog> Nelluk: is there a reason you can't run your tests locally?
[21:42] <blackdog> then deploy to the VPS in a more controlled way?
[21:43] <Nelluk> blackdog: well, that is one of the options i am considering, but it would mean that i'd have to update mysql and php and apache on my Mac and get all the dependencies set up so they are identical to the VPS, not sure if that is the best way to go. sandboxing it kind of makes sense to me
[21:43] <Nelluk> would connecting via VNC make sense?
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> Nelluk, if i were you i would wither setup a VM with running your dev environment or else run a local amp stack, and match the configs with that of your server
[21:43] <bekks> Nelluk: No. VNC isnt secure at all.
[21:44] <Nelluk> ok bekks good to know
[21:44] <Nelluk> hitsujiTMO: yeah OK. those are the two options I had in my head and just didnt want to start going down that path and then find out i was missing an obvious better solution
[21:45] <Nelluk> thanks
[21:45] <blackdog> Nelluk: if you need it to be exactly the same (which is definitely a good idea), i'd recommend looking into something like ansible, chef or puppet as a way to get it set up.
[21:46] <Nelluk> wow ive never heard of any of those. checking them out
[21:46] <Nelluk> what about Vagrant?
[21:46] <blackdog> that way you can regard the VM as disposable, because your code is in github (or wherever), and you have a recipe for building a dev env.
[21:47] <blackdog> vagrant is a way of managing VMs - you can use ansible with vagrant. Your needs are probably not massive, and just vagrant by itself could do the trick - you'd have to be able to run some sort of script to set everything up, though.
[21:47] <blackdog> so if you know what you have on the VPS, perhaps choose a vagrant image to match that, and just keep your setup in a shell script? depends what you're comfortable with really.
[21:48] <blackdog> developing on a remote VPS is always going to be a bit painful, basically.
[21:49] <Nelluk> as opposed to what? just using your own system stack and pushing commits?
[21:51] <galamar> Okay so over in the zevenos channel there doesn't seem to be anybody active (only 2 ppl) any chance I can get help here? I am almost positive it will be an ubuntu solution.
[21:52] <loa> how i can place icon for nauntilus? I have "Dropbox" folder and want place it near folders like "Downloads" or "My Documents"
[21:56] <galamar> What I have is a graphics issue. I would like to use two monitors, I have two graphics cards both work fine on there own but I can't seem to get them both going at once. My onboard card is Nvidia, the second card is PCI but I am not sure of the vendor. I have installed the official Nvidia drivers from their website. It is working fine. Pretty sure that I need to add something to my xorg.conf file so it will define screen 1 j
[21:56] <galamar> ust as it does for screen 0 though I am not sure what to add?
[21:57] <usr13> I'm about to give up on this, but will give it one last shot.  I've gotten this laptop with 11.10 and have tried to do distribution upgrade to 12.04.3 but it ran into filesystem errors, I ran fsck and fixed 'em, but now it's stuck with Errors were encountered while processing: ... See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233455/
[21:57] <OerHeks> loa add a bookmark, edit one in bookmarks and point to /home/<you>/Dropbox > http://askubuntu.com/questions/198675/dropbox-add-to-computer-menu-in-nautilus
[22:00] <Rory> usr13: Do you use any PPAs? They can break upgrades.
[22:00] <raub> What would make network manager not get the domain name from the dhcp server
[22:02] <usr13> I don't know, let's see:
[22:02] <bluechaos> hello guys I want to upgrade my ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.10 or higher
[22:02] <Rory> bluechaos: You can only upgrade from one version to the next. And 10.10 is EOL
[22:03] <Rory> bluechaos: The best thing to do would probably be to make a backup of your /home/<username> directory, do a fresh install, and then copy it back
[22:04] <sophie_> Is there any difference between the x.04 and x.10 versions apart from position in the release cycle? By this I mean, does each version focus on different things like feature introduction and then polishing of features?
[22:04] <bluechaos> can u help me to do that , i'm newbie !
[22:05] <jrib> !lts | sophie_
[22:05] <jrib> sophie_: LTS releases have a different focus; other releases are the same
[22:06] <bluechaos> Rory,
[22:06] <bluechaos> can u help me to do that , i'm newbie !
[22:06] <sophie_> Ah okay, so for example if somebody wants a system with maximum stability, it's best for them to use an LTS version
[22:06] <jrib> sophie_: I don't know what you mean by "stability"
[22:07] <sophie_> I guess I mean support, not stability
[22:07] <Rory> bluechaos: No problem. Open a file manager and browse to the folder "/home" - copy the folder that is your username to an external drive or some other partition
[22:07] <jrib> sophie_: all of ubuntu's releases are stable in the sense that they only get security updates and major bug fixes once the release is made.  LTS has longer support.  If you don't want to upgrade every 6 months, then go with LTS
[22:08] <sophie_> jrib,  oh I see, so people do generally upgrade at least annually if they aren't using LTS?
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> bluechaos, If you are feeling up for it and want you can separate home to a partition, do a fresh install and use that home. In the future your upgrades will use that home if run to do so. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving.
[22:08] <jrib> sophie_: the non-lts releases are supported only for 9 months now
[22:08] <bluechaos> Rory,  done
[22:09] <Rory> bluechaos: That was very quick, you must have not very many personal files or large videos etc
[22:09] <bluechaos> Rory,  I just install this old version from cd !
[22:09] <bluechaos> I don`t have any personal files inside pc
[22:09] <Rory> bluechaos: Why did you install such an old version? Where did you even find a download for 10.10?
[22:10] <bluechaos> becouse this I have only !
[22:10] <usr13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233506/
[22:10] <usr13> (sources.list)
[22:10] <Rory> bluechaos: Go download the latest LTS version (12.04) from ubuntu.com, or the latest version 13.04
[22:10] <sophie_> My number 1 desire is that Canonical have a change of heart and allow the launcher bar to be orientated to the bottom.
[22:10] <Rory> !eol | 10.10 is end of life bluechaos
[22:11] <usr13> I looked sources.list over at the beginning and decided to comment out the two "backports" lines.
[22:11] <bluechaos> I already donwloaded that one 13.04 I have it on donwloads
[22:11] <dinosaurvskitten> what could cause a very high amount of "Invalid misc" in iwconfig? I've been getting horrible speed over wifi, even though the link quality is in the 60-70 / 70 range. Same problem with other routers. Works fine if I boot back into macos instead of ubuntu.
[22:11] <bluechaos> saucy-dvd-amd64.iso
[22:12] <Rory> bluechaos: That version is pre-release
[22:12] <dinosaurvskitten> by high I mean like 230000
[22:12] <Rory> bluechaos: Download a supported version from www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[22:12] <Rory> bluechaos: Where are you finding these weird versions from?
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> sophie_, There are a number of apps that can make a nice panel there.
[22:13] <bluechaos> http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/
[22:13] <Rory> bluechaos: Download a supported version from www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[22:14] <Rory> bluechaos: Burn it to a DVD, or make a LiveUSB using a flash drive, and install it the same way you installed 10.10
[22:14] <bluechaos> wait five minutes please
[22:14] <sophie_> I couldn't find any that were responsive to my liking
[22:14] <The_Acid_Toy> how do i find out why my gui is crashing on login
[22:14] <Rory> bluechaos: I need to leave now.
[22:14] <bluechaos> I just started to donwload this http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[22:14] <Rory> bluechaos: Download a supported version from www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[22:15] <krabador> i need to delete the lxpanel on lubuntu
[22:15] <krabador> i deleted the @lxpanel on /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart but nothing
[22:15] <Rory> bluechaos: Is that URL not working for you? Are you getting an error?
[22:15] <krabador> what can i do?
[22:15] <bluechaos> is a desktop version !
[22:15] <Rory> !lubuntu | krabador
[22:15] <bluechaos> done I donwloaded it
[22:15] <krabador> Rory, nobody are response me in hours
[22:15] <krabador> that's the reason i'm here
[22:16] <bluechaos> ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[22:16] <bluechaos> I have it on donwloads
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> The_Acid_Toy: /var/log/Xorg.0.log might be a good start
[22:16] <bluechaos> Rory,  u still there ?
[22:18] <bluechaos> Rory, ......
[22:19] <bluechaos> ................................................................................................
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> bluechaos: be patient
[22:19] <bluechaos> ok hitsujiTMO
[22:22] <bluechaos> hitsujiTMO can u say to me official channel of unbuntu  (romanian language)
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> !ro | bluechaos
[22:24] <marlonbrando78> I no longer have sound on my Ubuntu 13.04 system, no sound indicator and no sound devices listed in sound. Pls help
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> marlonbrando78: laptop or pc?
[22:25] <marlonbrando78> PC
[22:25] <jonathanBis> hello
[22:25] <bluechaos> hey
[22:25] <jonathanBis> https://plus.google.com/photos/111233169625659823900/albums/5780354173655076209?banner=pwa possible with ubuntu ?
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> marlonbrando78: what is the output of: lspci
[22:26] <marlonbrando78> what cmd do I run in the terminal to give you that info?
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> lspci    is the command
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> jonathanBis, way beyond support.
[22:28] <Schalla> jonathanBis: Always possible.
[22:28] <marlonbrando78> marlon@marlon ~ $ lspci
[22:28] <marlonbrando78> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS480/RS482/RS485 Host Bridge (rev 10)
[22:28] <marlonbrando78> 00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS480 PCI-X Root Port
[22:28] <marlonbrando78> 00:11.0 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)
[22:28] <marlonbrando78> 00:12.0 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)
[22:28] <FloodBot1> marlonbrando78: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <marlonbrando78> 00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> marlonbrando78: please use paste.ubuntu.com
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | marlonbrando78
[22:28] <lrcaballero> Hello everyone, if I install Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 2, is this like installing the upcoming 13.10 realease of Ubuntu?
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | lrcaballero
[22:29] <jonathanBis> Schalla, ?
[22:29] <Schalla> You asked if it's possible
[22:29] <marlonbrando78> Ok sorry, been ages since I used IRC
[22:29] <Schalla> sure it is.
[22:29] <jonathanBis> Schalla, the leds compatible with ubuntu?
[22:30] <krabador> how can i kill lxpanel at startup?
[22:30] <krabador> i tried to delete on autostart but nothing
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233585/
[22:30] <bluechaos> Rory,
[22:30] <krabador> can i try to kill it at startup?
[22:30] <bluechaos> are u there?
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> marlonbrando78 well your hardware is still there
 Yes, I checked it in alsamixer
[22:32] <Schalla> jonathanBis: ....?
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> krabador, http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXPanel
 I tried removing alsa pulse audio, reinstalling it, upgrading kernel. To no avail
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> im not 100% sure tbh, hold on and someone else might chime in
 I get various DPKG errors when using apt
 not sure if that has anything to do with it.
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> what errors exactly?
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> krabador, IN general lubuntu and lxde due to their light nature are config file manipulations, rather than a gui.
 was setting up QJackctl, wineasio and Kxstudio when this all happened. Not sure what broke it.
[22:35] <marlonbrando78> Will send errors now
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> may have been a confict
[22:35] <loa> OerHeks, i have not got such menu in nautilus
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> also can you give the output of: dpkg --get-gelections
[22:36] <Grishnach> Hey guys Ive had a bit of an issue Installing a Server version of Ubuntu onto my laptop via a usb, Can someone please help me out. Sorry if this is not the correct way to go about things. Im new here
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> !details | Grishnach
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233616/
[22:39] <daniel_> can anyone help me with a JSON file?
[22:39] <daniel_> I know this has nothing to do with Ubuntu but I need a brainiac to help me.
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> marlonbrando78: those errors defo could be related, please get output of: dpkg --get-selections
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> daniel_: json file for what exactly?
[22:40] <hdon> hi all :) what version of grub is in ubuntu? i have version 0.97. the grub manual at gnu.org seems to be for version 2.00~rc1. why is grub so old in ubuntu?
[22:41] <daniel_> hitsujiTMO I'm trying to make a chrome web app for Google Voice
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> daniel_, Try ##linux
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> daniel_: that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:41] <daniel_> wilee-nilee thank you
 will send it to you shortly
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> !tab | marlonbrando78
[22:43] <Grishnach> Okay I have usedthe Universial usb installer program from pendrivelinux.com to make a bootable usb2.0 flash dish running the Ubuntu 13.04 server version. I booted my laptop from the flash disk and the installer asks me for a language so i select English and push enter. It then gives me an Ubuntu screen with a list of options- Install ubuntu server, check disc for defects, test memory ect- so i select install ubuntu se
[22:43] <Grishnach> rver and press enter I get asked for my location so i select united kingdom and then get to a keyboard selection screen so i select my keyboard. Then a message box pops up saying that it is scanning for hardwar.   I then get a pop up saying 'Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that the CD-ROM was not in the drive. If so can you insert it and try again. Retry mounting the CD-ROM?   <Yes> o
[22:43] <Grishnach> r <no>       I think i have to mount my usb stick as the cd rom but i have no idea how to do it. Can you help me please ?
[22:43] <FloodBot1> Grishnach: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> marlonbrando78: you can also use pastebinit to make it easier:     dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> Grishnach, Check the sum of the iso.
[22:44] <PwrSurge> finally upgrade  from 10.10 to 11.04 is working
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233637/
[22:45] <PwrSurge> had to uninstall openoffice and some other packages due to conflicts
[22:45] <Grishnach> How do i check the sum of an iso ?
[22:45] <LexAC> hi guys!! any portuguese here?
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> marlonbrando78, YOu can tab complete nicks, I'm not sure the user gets notified in that way.
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | Grishnach
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> it up to the users client to notify them or not.
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> marlonbrando78: that was only a partial list can you install pastebinit and type: dpkg --getselction | pastebinit
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> marlonbrando78: dpkg --get-selection | pastebinit     sorry
[22:46] <Vivekananda> I cannot find fonts like Arial and Times new roman in libre office writer in ubuntu12.04
[22:46] <usr13> Anyone willing to help with package management problem? See:  http://pastebin.ca/2466434
[22:46] <Vivekananda> do I have to install these or wre they supposed to be present
[22:47] <Grishnach> The only place where i can use commands is by backing out and selecting the 'Execute a shell' option. I used the !md5sum command there and had this returned '/bin/sh:!md5sum: not found
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> PwrSurge, you are still two upgrades from support.
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[22:47] <James_Epp> Hey guys. I'm in the process of trying to boot the ubuntu live discs over a network using nfs-kernel-server. Under my /etc/exports I have the following, however when clients boot they continue to give the error message "mount: Protocol not supported". What should I troubleshoot? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233647/
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> Grishnach, The md5sum would be used in a OS
[22:48] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: after that how do I make sure the fonts are installed ?
[22:48] <Vivekananda> is there a place I can check besides
[22:48] <Grishnach> I cant get into the Os, this is my first ubuntu install.
[22:48] <deepy> I have a 14GB USB stick with a few partitions using in total 2GB of space, can I somehow get this over to my 4GB partition?
[22:48] <Vivekananda> libre office
[22:48] <marlonbrando78> hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/vaJK4xX3
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> deepy, Any of them OS, or just data?
[22:49] <deepy> It's an OS install yeah
[22:49] <deepy> ext4 iirc
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> Vivekananda: font viewer   in the search
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> deepy, THis a live install, and if so what?
[22:50] <jared_> Hello
[22:50] <deepy> I'm trying to move my USB stick install onto my harddrive
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> deepy, ext4 would be full install what is it?
[22:50] <PwrSurge> wilee-nilee: i know :/
[22:50] <deepy> one stick is ubuntu, one is chromium OS
[22:50] <deepy> which admittedly is a bit silly to transfer in this way
[22:51] <Vivekananda> hitsujiTMO: no font viewer in unity search
[22:51] <Guest99538> Hello
[22:51] <Vivekananda> all I get is
[22:51] <PwrSurge> tried for over a year to do this upgrade
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> PwrSurge, You can separate the home to a partition and just do a install of a support and use that home.
[22:51] <Vivekananda> universal access
[22:51] <PwrSurge> finally got it to work
[22:51] <usr13> Well, I guess it's curtains forthis install.  I don't see any way to fix it, (there's no CD drive and won't boot to USB).
[22:51] <Guest99538> Can someone help me klewafbjkasevfckJSCDJEVFHSKCBlEFBGSK.VB/LVbl/sibfkasvb/lBK/lv
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> looks like he got attacked by his cat-on-the-keyboard  ;)
[22:53] <Vivekananda> so then font anyone
[22:53] <Vivekananda> dont have font viewer
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> i recall a gnome-font viewer app in the repos.
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> deepy, shrink the partitions to fit then copy paste from gaparted or clone them, I assume you have a oot loader set up figured out.
[22:55] <deepy> wilee-nilee: so I need to copy each partition manually? I can't just copy all that's no unused?
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> deepy, There are any number of ways to do this, I gave you two options, bigger to smaller is the issue as far as a straight clone is all in some apps.
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> deepy, Sounds like you have two OS as well you need two partitions to use them as OS's
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> you can't put ubuntu and chromium on the same partition
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> this is a live install on a usb you want to clone to a hard drive?
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> full installs they say
[23:00] <mydog2> hey - afternoon
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> if theres nothing on the hard drive he 'could' try using dd to image the usb to the hd. then boot the hd and use gparted to resize partions
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> ive done that with a simple full install to a 8gb usb flash once. but it just had one partion.
[23:01] <mydog2> trying to do a grep on a string that has >>foo\?abc << how the heck can i do the grep?
[23:01] <mydog2> doing grep -i "foo\?abc" dog.dat doesn't work..
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> mydog2:  single quotes can 'escape' patterns, or use the escape \ character
[23:01] <wylde> mydog2: quotes "string"
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, The explanation is devoid of pertinent info really, it would help to have some details
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  bah! then its too easy
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> lol, I know. ;)
[23:02] <Jordan_U> hdon: Ubuntu hasn't shipped with 0.97 by default in many years, that's grub legacy. My guess is that you accidentally installed grub legacy (which is in the "grub" package). You want the grub-pc, or grub-efi* packages for grub2 (which is again what is installed by default).
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> !info grub
[23:03] <hdon> jordan, ahh, thanks!
[23:03] <amuva__> Since  upgrade to Android 4.3 my Ubuntu can not detect my phone. MTP file system was detected with Android 4.2. Anyone has same problem?
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> !info grub-pc
[23:03] <mydog2> doing grep -i 'foo\?abc' dog.dat doesn't work..
[23:03] <kingnick42> hey. I tried the unstable libre office ppa, didn't like it. Used sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*, then removed the ppa
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> !ppa-purge
[23:03] <mydog2> neither does doing grep -i 'foo\\?abc' dog.dat
[23:03] <kingnick42> trying to install libreoffice now says I have unmet dependencies, any ideas?
[23:03] <Jordan_U> mydog2: What is the line in dog.dat that you expect it to match?
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> amuva__:  personally i dont even use a cable connection like that any more. I use 'airdroid' on android to transfer files  across with wireless connection
[23:04] <hdon> Jordan_U, i'm using ubuntu 12.04. the grub-pc package does not contain anything for /bin or /usr/bin. which package will give me grub(1) and grub-install(1) ?
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> amuva__:  there are some updated mta/gvfs stuff ive seen mentioned at the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites that Might fix the issue.
[23:04] <mydog2> jordan, -->> /slug/gserver/sdata/Weber_Weber-Booklist.html\?curDept\=42126\&curCourse\=15816  <<
[23:04] <someking> hi guys, does anyone knows why phpmyadmin is not working on 13.10. I can install it but it doesn't appear on the menu and i can open it via terminal.
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> !find grub-install
[23:05] <Jordan_U> hdon: There is no "grub" command, grub-install is provided by grub-common, but to actually install grub for a BIOS based system you need to install grub-pc (which will bring in grub-common as a dependancy).
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> kingnick42: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[23:06] <Jordan_U> mydog2: There is no 'foo' or 'abc' in that line, so of course it won't match.
[23:06] <hdon> Jordan_U, ah you're right. thanks for the help. sorry for my stupidity!
[23:06] <Marlenee> anyone use dropbear sshd before ???
[23:06] <amuva__> Dr_Willis: I need to use cable because I want to flash Android and install Ubuntu Touch
[23:06] <chosenone729> hello
[23:06] <Jordan_U> hdon: Np, it's a common mistake :)
[23:06] <mydog2> jordan,  - it wasn't intended to be litteral...
[23:07] <mydog2> what i'm trying to do is get a grep to match the string i posted
[23:07] <kingnick42> hitsujiTMO, Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[23:07] <Jordan_U> mydog2: Please give the literal command that you're running, and the literal string you expect it to match.
[23:07] <amuva__> Dr_Willis: I guest I have to use Windows to do that.
[23:07] <iTitou> Hi ! I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 (3.12rc4), and I have trouble with the display backlight on my Sony Vaio Pro. It' shut down, and I can't figure how to activate it.
[23:07] <mydog2> grep -i "/slug/gserver/sdata/Weber_Weber-Booklist.html\?curDept\=42126\&curCourse\=15816" cat.dat
[23:07] <chosenone729> ?
[23:07] <mydog2> grep is blowing on the "\?"
[23:08] <iTitou> x
[23:08] <Jordan_U> mydog2: grep -i '/slug/gserver/sdata/Weber_Weber-Booklist.html\?curDept\=42126\&curCourse\=15816' cat.dat
[23:08] <mydog2> jordan,  - single quotes make no diff
[23:09] <Jordan_U> mydog2: Please pastebin the full contents of the file cat.dat, and the output of the command I gave.
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> kingnick42 please try: sudo apt-get -f install
[23:10] <kingnick42> hitsujiTMO, done that before ;P doesn't change anything
[23:10] <Jordan_U> mydog2: Though I think I see what the problem might be, what is your end goal?
[23:10] <mydog2> http://pastebin.com/h3EdebS7
[23:10] <James_Epp> Hey guys. I'm in the process of trying to boot the ubuntu live discs over a network using nfs-kernel-server. Under my /etc/exports I have the following, however when clients boot they continue to give the error message "mount: Protocol not supported". What should I troubleshoot? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233647/
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> kingnick42: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install
[23:11] <mydog2> and there's no output.. grep isn't working/finding the string given the "/?" combination
[23:11] <Marlenee> anyone use dropbear sshd before ???
[23:11] <kingnick42> hitsujiTMO, again, doesn't do anything
[23:11] <mintpc> I tried installing Ubuntu 13.04 on my windows 8 pc yesterday and it installed fine, but grub wouldnt show up and I'm sure secure boot is disabled
[23:11] <mydog2> and doing a double slash \\ prior to the ? in order to escape it didn't work either
[23:12] <bwayne> mydog2: I got `grep "foo\\\?abc" txt` to work.
[23:13] <mydog2> hey bwayne  - so you used tripple.. yeah.. that could do it
[23:13] <bwayne> mydog2: both the \ and the ? need escapes.
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> kingnick42: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[23:14] <mydog2> bwayne,  - nope.. didn't work!
[23:14] <bwayne> mydog2: did you use single or double quotes?
[23:14] <kingnick42> hitsujiTMO, ok, done that. What next?
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> kingnick42: what was the ppa you used?
[23:14] <Jordan_U> mydog2: grep '/slug/gserver/sdata/Weber_Weber-Booklist.html\\?curDept\\=42126\\&curCourse\\=1581613' cat.dat
[23:14] <kingnick42> hitsujiTMO, ppa:libreoffice/ppa
[23:15] <mydog2> bwayne, - ok.. two appear to work.. which is what i had before..
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> sudo ppa-purge ppa:libreoffice/ppa
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:libreoffice/ppa
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> sudo apt-get autoclean
[23:16] <mydog2> jordan,  - yeah.. just got it.. thanks.. thought i had escaped everything earlier..
[23:16] <mydog2> must have been a typo..
[23:16] <mydog2> thanks..
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> kingnick42: then try to install libreoffice again
[23:16] <Jordan_U> mydog2: You're welcome.
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> kingnick42: sorry: sudo apt-get update    - then try and install libreoffice
[23:17] <bwayne> !xy
[23:18] <kingnick42> hitsujiTMO, same problem
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> i'm not sure then i'm afraid
[23:19] <kingnick42> oh well. Thanks for trying :)
[23:20] <marlonbrando78> Hi guys, weird issue, no sound and sound indicator, done a lspci as suggested, and both my soundcards are there, as well in alsamixer.
[23:21] <marlonbrando78> In sound control panel I have no sound outputs or inputs.
[23:21] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys when i try and update i get
[23:22] <Psil0Cybin> W: Failed to fetch https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/steam/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages
[23:22] <Marlenee> can someone help me to fix problem in running multiple sshd instances one server
[23:22] <marlonbrando78> A bit of background, I installed wineasio, kxstudio and qjackctl and that's when the sound problem occured.
[23:23] <marlonbrando78> I've reloaded Alsa and Pulse Audio. I have upgraded to a new Kernel as well, just to be sure.
[23:25] <Psil0Cybin> hey guysi  have a problem when i try and update
[23:25] <Psil0Cybin> by using sudo apt-get update i keep getting these errors http://pastebin.com/0mvUE7gv
[23:27] <marlonbrando78> Can anyone help, I must of tried everything?
[23:27] <Ponch0> hey guys I have ubuntu and no internet connection, where can I get the drivers for my rtl8723ae card?
[23:35] <byerley> Hi, I'm having trouble making a bootable windows 7 usb from ubuntu (have the iso), any suggestions?
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> !rtl
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> byerley, http://askubuntu.com/questions/116885/can-i-use-ubuntu-to-write-a-windows-7-iso-to-usb-in-ubuntu
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> winusb
[23:46] <Ponch0> i don't get how my internet works during installation but not after, how do I get linux headers generic for 3.11.0-12
[23:46] <Ponch0> can i boot from the install cd and download these things?
[23:47] <Ponch0> I have no internet and these directions want me to sudo apt-get install, how do I sudo apt-get install a network driver when I have no internet!
[23:47] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[23:48] <Johnny_Linux> look in synaptics and see if tht kernel exists
[23:48] <Ponch0> I don't have synaptics on that ccomputer, it's a fresh install
[23:49] <bogdan_> hi everyone
[23:49] <Johnny_Linux> so, you dont have internet ? is that right ?
[23:49] <FAGGO> I'm a troll.
[23:49] <Ponch0> yup
[23:49] <conall> you will have to download them on another computer, then transfer files over
[23:49] <Ponch0> no cable or wireless internet
[23:49] <Johnny_Linux> did you try a hard line and not wireless ?
[23:49] <bogdan_> what's up?
[23:49] <Ponch0> yup neither work..
[23:50] <Johnny_Linux> wow, huh
[23:50] <bogdan_> jest tu ktos?
[23:54] <nuf0xx> o/
[23:55] <nuf0xx> how can i discover the max capacity the card reader in my laptop can read. I'm getting errors when I load SD cards