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ahoneybun_hey valorie01:35
valoriehi aaron01:35
valoriehow are you?01:35
ahoneybunhello all01:41
valorieheh01:42
valorieI think you were already pinging out earlier01:43
ahoneybunoh 01:45
ahoneybunnope I don't think so01:47
valorieok01:50
valorieI said hi, how are you, and you didn't respond01:50
ahoneybunI moved the trello around a bit01:50
ahoneybunI might have been gone but forgot to mark myself as away01:51
ahoneybunsorry01:53
valorienp01:57
ahoneybunI cleaned up trello a bit01:59
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1239173] qt4-x11 - binaries linked against libQtCore don't start @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1239173 (by Matthias Klose)02:00
valorieyou rock, aaron02:01
ahoneybunthanks ;)02:03
ahoneybunvalorie: I made a email to the list, and told lordievader that we need to focus on the current pages not the installation page02:07
valoriewithin the next 6 months I'm sure we can get it all done02:07
valoriebut sure02:07
ahoneybunI want to try to get a meeting for membership02:09
valorievery good idea02:09
valorieyou'll have my vote02:09
valoriesec02:10
ahoneybunok02:10
ahoneybunso we can set the goal of having it ready the next LTS 02:15
ahoneybun14.0402:15
valoriephew, final item checked off my list of things to prep for tomorrow02:18
valoriewe're having the house repiped, so no water for much of the day02:18
valorieagreed; that is a really important deadline02:19
valoriethe docs need to be great on both the website and on launchpad by then02:19
valorieI think the mini-docs first, so we can get lots of translations02:19
ahoneybunyea that is important to me02:22
valoriein particular, chinese dialects are important02:23
valoriesome of the Indian languages02:23
valoriethose are the next big thing for linux02:23
ahoneybunI want to see if my gf and her sister can make it Korean02:24
valoriethat would be awesome02:24
ahoneybunthey are learning it 02:24
valorieoh02:24
ahoneybunstill something02:24
ahoneybungood at speaking it02:24
valoriewe need native speakers who also speak excellent english02:24
ahoneybunoh02:24
valorieAND know how to translate software02:24
valorieit isn't always obvious02:24
ahoneybunI need to keep contact with the people who would like to translate02:26
ahoneybunmaybe get the home page and getting involved to them to translate while we work on the basic02:26
valorieyes, it would be good to make sure that it is mentioned in the get involved section02:28
valoriesoftware needs localizing, but that is mostly done by KDE02:29
valorieour docs need translating, and that isn't really being done, afaik02:29
valoriemini-dox are the most important for translation02:29
valoriewhat's on the website.... to me, that's second02:30
ahoneybunyes I know but I think home and getting involved is going to be included in the mini-docs02:30
valoriesure02:30
ahoneybunso we focus on the basic page and push the home and getting involved pages for translation02:32
valoriecool02:33
ahoneybunthat's the best way I think02:34
ahoneybunany way I have to get off 02:39
valorienice chatting with you aaron02:40
valorieniters02:40
ahoneybunsame here see you valorie02:40
soeegood morning07:14
apacheloggeryou know, what I like best about lunchpad .... if you click on a version in the table at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam you get a blank page in chrome10:52
apacheloggerbug 92358710:53
ubottubug 923587 in networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "No openconnect support in plasma-widget-networkmanagement" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92358710:53
* apachelogger does the regression dance10:53
apacheloggershadeslayer: oh might Riddell replacement what shall we do10:53
* apachelogger pokes shadeslayer witha long pointy stick10:54
=== rdieter_work is now known as rdieter
* apachelogger wonders how we get a 1 gib iso even though we do not offer anything other than one card game compared to when we did use CD size12:32
apacheloggerkde-l10n-engb4:4.11.2-0ubuntu112:32
apacheloggerthat's very important really12:32
apacheloggerkdevelop-l10n4:4.5.1-0ubuntu512:32
apacheloggerda fudge12:32
apacheloggerkdevelop-php-docs-l10n1.5.1-0ubuntu112:32
apacheloggerkdevelop-php-l10n1.5.1-0ubuntu112:32
apacheloggerkdevplatform-l10n1.5.1-0ubuntu112:32
apacheloggerda fudge^412:32
BluesKajHiyas all12:38
debfxalso why is libc6-dbg on the (k)ubuntu image12:44
apacheloggerapport/gdb/drkonqi I'd presume12:44
apacheloggerlibc6-dbg                          | eglibc                         | gdb (Recommends)  12:45
apacheloggergdb                                | gdb                            | apport-kde (Recommends) 12:45
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/OTUxySp.png12:48
apacheloggermaybe we should also add the ubuntu software center12:48
apacheloggerand yes, muon software center crashed12:48
apacheloggerand it reproducibly does so at startup12:48
apacheloggerwait what why12:50
apacheloggerlol12:50
apacheloggerwhat12:50
apacheloggerOo12:50
apacheloggerno12:50
apachelogger:O12:50
apacheloggermuon package has muon software manager and muon software center12:50
apachelogger[|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||]||||||||| <- anger bar12:51
yofelo.O?12:51
yofel#6  KNS3::Entry::providerId (this=0x0) at ../../../knewstuff/knewstuff3/entry.cpp:5212:51
yofeloh, fun12:51
apacheloggerlibphononexperimental4             | phonon                         | calligra-libs                         | Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>                     |           29968 |             15512:51
apacheloggerwut12:52
apachelogger:O12:52
apacheloggercalligra just got spooky12:52
apacheloggerplasma-scriptengine-python         | kde-workspace                  | plasma-widget-facebook                | Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>                     |           27684 |             24912:52
apacheloggerso while everyone plays with their facebook app... plasma-nm currently isn't built with openconnect and I am not actually sure that openconnect would still fit on the ISO12:53
apacheloggeryofel: can you paste a dbg backtrace?12:53
apacheloggerwould take rather longish to download :(12:53
apacheloggeroh oh oh12:54
apacheloggerand then there is this mount of pyware12:54
yofelhttp://pastebin.kde.org/p35ba0e5612:54
highvoltagejeepers. /win 1612:55
highvoltage(oops)12:55
apacheloggermysql-server-core-5.5              | mysql-5.5                      | akonadi-backend-mysql                 | Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>               |         5844454 |           1808512:55
apacheloggerand that12:55
apacheloggerconsidering that amarok has an embedded server-core12:56
apacheloggerso I guess in theory there are two12:56
apacheloggerand where's shadeslayer12:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing12:57
soeeuh, oh :)12:57
soeePi & Sigma12:58
BluesKajwhoa, ! 12:58
BluesKajwhoa, ! 12:59
BluesKajtwice for emphasis12:59
highvoltagewho still uses mysql anyway!?13:00
highvoltage(silly uncle rodney)13:00
davmor2apachelogger: wow dude you have anger like pulse has volume :D13:16
shadeslayer_xnox: could you have a look at bug 118278413:27
ubottubug 1182784 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Install with German / Swiss Keyboard fails: "ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 141" or "Installer Crashed"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118278413:27
shadeslayer_I can't reproduce it13:27
smartboyhwshadeslayer_, apachelogger was looking for you everywhere-.-13:28
shadeslayer_??13:30
shadeslayer_apachelogger: why were you looking for me?13:31
shadeslayer_I didn't break whatever is broken 13:32
yofel<apachelogger> bug 92358713:32
yofel<ubottu> bug 923587 in networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "No openconnect support in plasma-widget-networkmanagement" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92358713:32
yofel-*- apachelogger does the regression dance13:32
yofel<apachelogger> shadeslayer: oh might Riddell replacement what shall we do13:32
yofel-*- apachelogger pokes shadeslayer witha  long pointy stick13:32
ubottubug 923587 in networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "No openconnect support in plasma-widget-networkmanagement" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92358713:32
apacheloggeralso13:32
apacheloggershadeslayer_: what script is used to update language-pack-kde-*13:33
apacheloggershadeslayer_: also any objections to me dropping kdevelop/kdev l10n from those package's depends13:33
apacheloggershadeslayer_: also what do we do with about-distro's broken processor label13:34
apacheloggershadeslayer_: do we have a fix for kdesudo yet?13:34
* apachelogger thinks shadeslayer_ will not ever want to replace Riddell again :P13:35
debfxhow does one install a new locale these days?13:36
smartboyhwshadeslayer_ can't replace Riddell :P13:36
shadeslayer_apachelogger: dunno regarding lang-pack-kde-* 13:36
apacheloggerdunno doesn't quite cut it I am afraid13:37
shadeslayer_apachelogger: no @ regarding depends13:37
apacheloggerwe have pointless crap on the ISO13:37
apacheloggeronly other solution is stop putting l10n on the ISO13:37
apacheloggerdebfx: locale kcm13:37
smartboyhwStop putting l10n is not an option...13:38
debfxapachelogger: and what does it do? I assume it doesn't look at the language-selector date anymore13:39
apacheloggerit does13:41
debfxregarding crap on the cd: moving ubuntu-sso-client from recommends to suggests in muon-discover will probably remove a bunch of packages from the image13:41
apacheloggerdebfx: maps kde langaugecode to ubuntu langaugecode then checks langauge-selector file with pkg mappings (e.g. libreoffice-foo wants libreoffice-l10n), then queries qapt and installs rubbish13:42
apachelogger-> afk13:42
apacheloggerdebfx: we do need it though I think13:42
apacheloggerfor comments and ratings13:42
shadeslayer_apachelogger: we want to fix the processor label, if it's a bug in solid I can talk to afiestas_ and try and get it fixed13:49
shadeslayer_apachelogger: kdesudo fix, yofel tested it and said it didn't work for him13:49
shadeslayer_but it worked for me13:49
shadeslayer_so not sure what's going on13:49
yofelshadeslayer_: how did you test, maybe I did it wrong?13:56
shadeslayer_yofel: I installed the kdesudo package , then set my language to german, and ran the command kdesudo in console13:56
shadeslayer_gave me a error message in german13:56
apacheloggershadeslayer_: just upload the tar somewhere :P14:09
yofelshadeslayer_: nvm, works now, I did something wrong14:10
yofelon that topic: what did you even change?14:10
apacheloggerpo/ contained empty po files14:10
ScottKAnyone have anything they are considering uploading that we need to get in before a respin?14:11
yofelapachelogger: really o.O?14:11
apacheloggeryes14:11
ScottKapachelogger: What and how long do you need?14:11
apacheloggerScottK: yes to yofel ^^14:12
apacheloggernothing pressing on my plate right now14:12
ScottKAh. OK.14:12
ScottKGreat.14:12
apacheloggeroh14:12
apacheloggeractually14:12
apacheloggerabout-distro coudl do with a fix14:12
apacheloggereven have one, just need to package it14:12
ScottKOK.  Talk to infinity about it in #u-release when it's ready.  I'm about to vanish offline for awhile.14:14
apacheloggerScottK: that's not urgent to have in a respin though the changes have no chance for regression anyway14:14
ScottKapachelogger: We're doing a respin already.14:14
apacheloggercan wait then ;)14:14
ScottKOK.14:14
shadeslayer_apachelogger: yofel http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kdesudo/kdesudo_3.4.2.4+repack-2ubuntu2~ppa1.dsc14:22
ScottKshadeslayer_: Is you kdesudo work intended for saucy?14:22
shadeslayer_ScottK: yes14:22
ScottKCan it be an SRU?14:22
shadeslayer_uhm .... would prefer that it be fixed for the final release14:23
AndChat|545664Hello14:24
apacheloggershadeslayer_: if it still fits on the ISO....14:24
shadeslayer_heh14:25
apacheloggernot joking14:25
shadeslayer_apachelogger: so lets fix the ISO?14:25
apacheloggerwe are at 1GiB, so that is a matter of bytes14:25
apacheloggershadeslayer_: that's what I asked you for, then you said I dunno14:25
shadeslayer_regarding the l10n?14:26
apacheloggeryes14:26
apacheloggereasiest fix anyway14:26
apacheloggersecond easiest is probably preventing engb from getting on the ISO14:26
apacheloggerthough that may be becasue language-base-en deps it14:26
* shadeslayer_ looks14:26
apacheloggerso that may not actually be trivial at all14:26
apacheloggerworst case scenario we have to drop the game14:27
shadeslayer_not the game :(14:27
apacheloggerwhich is not a bad thing because it looks fing terrible in the menu14:27
apacheloggergot submenus14:27
apachelogger...14:27
apacheloggerkickoff is just rubbish WRT single-item menus14:27
apacheloggerit shoudl just flatten them out14:27
apacheloggerbut it doesnt14:27
apacheloggerso you get Games->CardGames->Kittens->KittensCardGameBestOfTheWorldHashTagKittenHashTagOccupygovernment14:28
shadeslayer_:D14:28
apacheloggernew review type for 14.0414:29
apacheloggerISO content review14:29
* debfx is sad because he has no kittens card game :(14:29
=== rdieter_work is now known as rdieter
shadeslayer_why is there kdevelop-l10n on the CD :S14:31
shadeslayer_and libktorrent-l10n14:31
apacheloggersee backlog....14:31
shadeslayer_whaiiii14:31
apacheloggerlibktorrent makes sense14:31
apacheloggerbecause we have ktorrent on the ISO14:31
apacheloggerkdev* not so much14:31
ScottKshadeslayer: hurry then. talk to infinity in #u-release if l'm not around. 14:32
shadeslayer_apachelogger: backlog doesn't explain how it landed there14:33
=== shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer
apachelogger>>> apt-cache show language-pack-kde-de |grep Depends14:35
apacheloggerDepends: language-pack-de, kde-l10n-de, k3b-i18n, kdevelop-l10n, kdevelop-php-docs-l10n, kdevelop-php-l10n, calligra-l10n-de14:35
apacheloggershadeslayer: ^14:35
shadeslayero_o14:35
apacheloggerintroduced by Riddell in quantal14:35
apacheloggerI have no idea why14:35
apacheloggerbut it is wrong and should be fixed14:35
shadeslayerI don't see language-pack-kde-de in the manifest?14:35
apacheloggeroh14:35
shadeslayeruhm14:35
shadeslayerlibgettextpo-dev:amd640.18.1.1-10ubuntu314:35
apacheloggerlanguage-pack-kde-de1:13.10+20130813.0ubuntu114:35
shadeslayeron the CD14:35
shadeslayerwhy do we have a -dev package on the ISO14:36
shadeslayerhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/pending/saucy-desktop-amd64.manifest14:36
* apachelogger notes that letting his phone idle on upnp device search is bad for battery14:36
apacheloggerlibgettextpo-dev                 | gettext                          | gettext                                  | Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>      |          149402 |             51514:37
apacheloggershadeslayer: ^14:37
debfxshadeslayer: they are pulled in by language-pack-kde-en14:37
apacheloggeroh14:38
apacheloggeroho14:38
apacheloggerohhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooo14:38
apacheloggerwe have aptdaemon14:38
apacheloggershadeslayer: I'd definitely hold respin right now14:38
apacheloggeraptdaemon definitely should not be on the seed14:38
shadeslayerwtf happened to the seeds :/14:39
apacheloggerpython3-aptdaemon.pkcompat       | aptdaemon                        | ubuntu-drivers-common (Recommends)       | Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>      |           36860 |             26914:39
apacheloggerwtf14:39
shadeslayeryeah14:39
apacheloggerWHAT DA FUCK14:39
debfxpulled in by ubuntu-drivers-common14:39
* apachelogger throws keyboard at channel wall14:39
shadeslayerbut we don't depend on u-d-c 14:39
shadeslayerwe still use jockey14:39
apacheloggers-p probably deps on u-d-c14:40
apacheloggerthis pulls in all sorts of shit14:40
apacheloggerubuntu-drivers-common            | ubuntu-drivers-common            | Kubuntu.Saucy desktop-common seed        | Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>      |           34202 |             22214:40
apacheloggeractually it's an explicit seed14:40
shadeslayerI don't see it in the seed14:40
shadeslayerapachelogger: afiestas_ tells me he has a fix for the processor bug14:41
* apachelogger sighs in despair14:41
apacheloggershadeslayer: weeeh14:41
smartboyhwGuys, keep calm......14:41
apacheloggershadeslayer: desktop-common is platform seed I think14:41
shadeslayerahhh14:41
debfxit's also pulled in by ubiquity14:42
apacheloggerdebfx: not according to germinate14:42
debfxit probably doesn't show dependencies when it's explicitly seeded anyway14:43
apacheloggerpossible14:43
apacheloggerwell14:44
apacheloggerto get this handled globally14:44
apacheloggershadeslayer: I'd make a fake package muon-pkcompat-stub ... change u-d-c to Recommends: aptdaemonblahblah | muon-pkcompat-stub ... seed muon-pkgcompat-stub for kubuntu-desktop14:45
shadeslayerugh14:45
apacheloggerthen whenever we pick up u-d-c we provide the stub package and transition14:45
apacheloggerit would totally help if jon the taco was here.....14:46
apacheloggershadeslayer: that's my suggestion anyway, u-release may have more sensible ideas :P14:46
shadeslayerand what do you want to do about l10n14:47
shadeslayerbecause we also have to solve that14:47
apacheloggermay be that aptdaemon alone would give enough buffer for 13.1014:47
apacheloggerit's a whole pile of dirt that is pulled in by it14:47
apacheloggerfor l10n I'd remove the dep from the metapackage14:48
apacheloggeror demote to suggests14:48
apacheloggeralas, I have no idea whether there is a script to manage these metapackages14:48
* apachelogger ponders introducing a separate board to manage reveiw deadlines for 14.0414:49
apacheloggerhalf the cards on my screen are reviews14:49
shadeslayerreview the reviews14:49
debfxI'm sure u-release will be pleased if we start mass uploading all kde lang packages ^^14:49
shadeslayer^^14:49
apacheloggerwell, it's just the metapackages :P14:50
apacheloggereasy review14:50
apacheloggerin fact14:50
apacheloggerwe could also just fiddle with the important ones14:50
apacheloggeractually only -de -engb14:51
apacheloggerthere's no space for any other language anyway14:51
apacheloggershadeslayer: ^ least impactful proposal14:52
apacheloggerwhatever pleases u-relase :P14:52
* shadeslayer thinks fiddling with language-pack-kde-{en,de} is a better solution for now14:54
apacheloggershadeslayer: and since we are holding respin perhaps ask them nicely to push about-distro through so it gets in as well14:54
apacheloggershadeslayer: also does u-release agree with that course of action? :P14:54
shadeslayerhaven't asked14:55
shadeslayerasking now14:55
apacheloggerohm14:57
apacheloggerthem packages are a mess already14:57
apachelogger-de depends calligra-l10n, -en does not14:57
apacheloggerinstead -en depends on kde-l10n-engb twice14:58
apacheloggeroh there is no calligra-engb surprise14:58
afiestas_apachelogger: shadeslayer https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/113242/14:59
afiestas_please, test it on older kubuntu to make sure that it works with the old udev14:59
apacheloggergood thing I am on raring then xD15:01
apacheloggershadeslayer: I have changes for -de/en ready15:02
shadeslayer<infinity> shadeslayer: Also, the point of langpacks is to actually give language support for all your stuff.  That might not be the best solution.15:02
shadeslayer<infinity> shadeslayer: Anyhow, I'd rather just raise the limit than try to hack things too hard here.15:02
shadeslayerraise limit ^^ ? :P15:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: limit?15:03
afiestas_apachelogger:  does this file exists in your system? /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/15:03
apacheloggerafiestas_: that's a directory, and it exists15:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: limit of the ISO15:03
shadeslayer*size limit of the ISO15:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: that does not have kubuntu council backing right now15:04
afiestas_apachelogger: so if you do solid-hardware query "Is Processor"15:04
shadeslayerjoin #ubuntu-release plz15:04
afiestas_it returns nothing?15:04
apacheloggerafiestas_: I am an old udev15:09
apacheloggerI get all my cores if I query15:09
apacheloggerudi = '/org/kde/solid/udev/sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXCPU:00' to 0715:09
afiestas_apachelogger: so this file exists as well? /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/sysdev/cpufreq15:10
apachelogger>>> file /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/sysdev/cpufreq15:10
apachelogger/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/sysdev/cpufreq: ERROR: cannot open `/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/sysdev/cpufreq' (No such file or directory)15:10
apacheloggerbuilding patch15:14
apacheloggerohm15:16
apacheloggerafiestas_: stack exhaustion with the patch15:16
apacheloggerinside strcpy15:16
shadeslayero_o15:16
* shadeslayer is building package for saucy15:16
apacheloggeror maybe I am doing it wrong :O15:17
apacheloggerwhere could the patch cause bogus strcpy15:17
apacheloggerinside qlocale15:21
apacheloggerWTF15:21
apacheloggertoday is really not my day15:21
BluesKajwe have weird problem , a user is able get to a desktop , but he can't get to a TTY , just a blank screen with blinking cursor , any dieas ?15:27
afiestas_apachelogger: I'd say... that's not my bug xD15:30
apacheloggerafiestas_: yeah, rebuilding all of kdelibs now15:34
apacheloggerBluesKaj: bad init maybe15:35
apacheloggeror bad kernel mode setting15:36
apacheloggercan be many things15:36
apacheloggerif `ps -A |grep tty` lists a bunch of getty tasks the TTYs are running, suggesting a problem with KMS15:36
BluesKajthanks apachelogger , we'll check that out 15:37
=== rdieter_work is now known as rdieter
shadeslayerScottK: uploaded15:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: afiestas_'s patch works for me15:55
apacheloggeryou are not on raring, are you? :P15:56
shadeslayerno15:56
shadeslayerofcourse not :P15:56
ScottKLooking15:58
ScottKOr not.15:58
apacheloggerlol15:59
apacheloggerl10n is WAAAAAY better than raring16:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: in saucy?16:00
apacheloggeryus16:00
shadeslayerare you being sarcastic?16:01
apacheloggernot sure if Riddell got patched l10n/kubuntu l10n sorted though16:01
shadeslayerI cannot tell16:01
apacheloggerI dared not open the kubuntu apps16:01
apacheloggerkubotu: 8ball does kubuntu l10n work?16:01
* kubotu shakes the magic 8-ball for apachelogger ... outlook not so good16:01
apacheloggeroh my16:01
shadeslayer:(16:01
apacheloggerthat's totally pitti's fault though :P16:01
apacheloggershadeslayer: and your ISO bug is a bit bad16:02
shadeslayerISO bug?16:03
shadeslayeroh16:03
shadeslayerlangpacks on my machine?16:03
apacheloggerin LANG16:03
shadeslayerright16:03
shadeslayercan you explain what the heck is happening there?16:03
shadeslayerbecause I logged out/in and it works16:03
shadeslayer+ now16:03
apacheloggerwell not why your system insist on being german :P16:03
apacheloggerbut the bogus encoding in env comes from klocale/qlocale/kcm getting confused16:04
shadeslayeroic16:04
apacheloggerbasically if it canot detect the encoding it goes we be using ISO16:04
apacheloggercan have terrible fallout16:04
apacheloggerso that needs fixing16:04
apacheloggerthough I am not sure how that could happen because that was supposed to be fixed in .04 even -.-16:05
apacheloggerunless you had a bad env since .04 pre-release16:06
apacheloggershadeslayer: is that $HOME older than .04 final?16:06
shadeslayernope16:06
apacheloggerbad16:06
shadeslayerIIRC I repartitioned when installing saucy]16:07
apacheloggerbug 1234106 is also pretty eww16:08
ubottubug 1234106 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "qt ui files are not extracted into pot" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123410616:08
shadeslayerhow would one go about fixing that16:08
apacheloggerfind someone who knows setup.py and inttool16:08
apacheloggerbecause I think in theory it can extrac qt ui files, it just doesn't for some reason16:08
apacheloggerotherwise one would have to twiddle in kubuntu-l10n stuff16:09
apacheloggershadeslayer: I cannot corrupt my encoding btw16:10
shadeslayerit works perfectly for you?16:10
apacheloggeryeah16:11
shadeslayer*shrug*16:11
shadeslayerlike d_ed would say16:12
shadeslayermaybe I was being a muppet16:12
apacheloggershadeslayer: did you by any chance start the kcm/systemsettings with LANG=C?16:12
ovidiu-florinhello world16:13
ovidiu-florinapachelogger: saw your mails about the trello boards16:13
ovidiu-florinregarding the UFW-KDE project, the code is up on the repo.16:13
apacheloggeryeah16:14
ovidiu-florinwhat's next?16:14
apacheloggerwait for 14.04 development to open16:14
apacheloggercan't do much until then16:14
ovidiu-florinI'll test the code in a VM16:14
apacheloggeryeah16:14
ovidiu-florinon 13.1016:14
ovidiu-florinis that ok/?16:14
apacheloggernext step would be a code and UI review16:14
apacheloggersee if things need fixing etc.16:14
apacheloggerthen package for 14.0416:14
ovidiu-florinok ;)16:14
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/KZzeZJQ.png16:18
apacheloggerkubuntu l10n still kaput16:18
apacheloggeryou know16:18
apacheloggerfor 14.04 I'll just write an own script to handle that stuff16:18
shadeslayercool16:20
apacheloggerquick look at lunchpad api makes me doubt that one can actually do that :O17:00
apacheloggerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/langpack-o-matic/main/revision/44617:03
apacheloggerone gets to wonder17:03
ScottKapachelogger: They accept patches to extend the API if needed.17:04
apacheloggerbecause I am a very useful python web programmer :P17:05
BluesKajwell, NM seems to be working fine , but the vpn connection icon isn't appearing. When connected via vpn the NM icon has a red dsiconnected icon showing on top of it17:06
BluesKajopenvpn connection that is 17:07
apacheloggerBluesKaj: bugs.kde.org17:08
apacheloggerScottK: I suppose that is somewhat complicated actually... you can get all templates and all translation files of all templates but there is simply no facility to download the file (well, and for the oddest of all reasons a translation file is not linked to a language apiwise)17:11
apacheloggerthough the per-language download is also not supported via the web ui17:11
apacheloggerso I suppose that this simply does not exist at all17:11
apacheloggerohohoho17:18
apacheloggerScottK: kubuntu-patched-l10n is in the language-pack17:18
apacheloggerthe other rubbish is not17:18
apacheloggerI pinged the pitti17:23
apacheloggerif we could get that resolved for final that would be uberawesome17:23
apacheloggerand with that I am off17:23
apacheloggershadeslayer: ^ in case you want to follow up on that as well17:24
shadeslayerack tracking that17:28
shadeslayerI'm around for another half an hour 17:28
ScottKshadeslayer, apachelogger: Win - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20131014.1/ - no complaints about oversize with the new kdesudo.18:43
ahoneybunhey lordievader19:46
ahoneybunso what is included in the 13.10 kubuntu-docs package?19:48
apolapachelogger: http://commits.kde.org/muon/507369783f3dc6d485866071c66cce88683f69cb23:47
apolthis should fix the problem you told me about23:47
apolapachelogger: btw, it wasn't reported on bko23:47

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