[03:15] <wa5qjh> q, how come your name here always goes grey beforew I can holler at you ?
[03:16]  * wa5qjh SCRATCH THAT!! 
[03:30] <wa5qjh> hey,  isnt that section between the usb connector on an original launchpad,  more than just a usb to serial adapter ?
[03:31] <cjwatson> I think you're in the wrong channel.  This is for Launchpad as in https://launchpad.net/
[03:42] <wa5qjh> Yeah,  that first bit was the wrong channel.  goofup. the second one is my real question and the reason I logged into here.
[03:42] <cjwatson> The second one is the reason I said you're in the wrong channel.
[03:43] <cjwatson> This Launchpad is a web site and has no hardware connectors.
[03:43] <wa5qjh> hmmm. why is that? this is not a forum for the TI Launchpad ?
[03:43] <cjwatson> No.
[03:43] <cjwatson> https://launchpad.net/
[03:43] <cjwatson> Nothing to do with TI.
[03:44] <wa5qjh> Ah So desu!! sorry bout that. !!
[12:05] <gb> what is required to login to launchpad using lynx
[12:06] <gb> does it expect me to switch off my brain damage and read some graphic?
[12:09] <gb> the webpage referred to this channel
[12:10] <mgz> gb: sso certainly used to work in lynx, though it was a bunch of painful redirects
[12:10] <tsimpson> gb: works fine for me
[12:10] <mgz> it's been poked quite a lot though, so perhaps no longer works
[12:14] <cjwatson> w3m works
[12:14] <cjwatson> I think lynx perhaps lacks support for the button element or similar
[12:15] <cjwatson> it certainly isn't necessary to have graphics
[12:15] <tsimpson> it does work, it just has "(BUTTON)"
[12:15] <wgrant> Well, registering a new account in w3m might be awkward due to the recaptcha
[12:15] <wgrant> But logging in is fine AFAICR
[12:16] <cjwatson> wgrant: Yeah, I imagine that would require w3m-img
[14:33] <gb> anything which uses the white capture thing or audio thing is beyond me, i guess same old same old and i just should nt bother
[14:35] <gb> thanks anyhow
[15:18] <kalikiana> can somebody have a look at https://launchpad.net/~13738772233-a this launchpad user? they're changing status and assignment and titles of bugs in different projects in what looks to me like malicious intent or bot gone haywire; examples https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1233071 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1239627
[15:18] <kalikiana> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1197060
[15:19] <czajkowski> wgrant: StevenK ^
[15:26] <wgrant> czajkowski, kalikiana: That user's suspended now.
[15:27] <czajkowski> wgrant: thank you
[15:28] <wgrant> It wasn't me, actually :)
[15:29] <kalikiana> wgrant: thanks
[15:38] <gaughen> I'm trying to setup SSO following the instructions here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSO/FAQs/2FA
[15:39] <gaughen> I have logged in to https://login.ubuntu.com/
[15:39] <gaughen> but when I try to go to https://login.ubuntu.com/device-list I get "There's no page with this address in the Ubuntu One service. Check that you entered the address correctly and try again."
[15:39] <gaughen> Any suggestions?
[15:40] <beuno> gaughen, have you joined the launchpad team?
[15:40] <gaughen> by that do you mean, do I have a launchpad account? the answer to that is yes.
[15:41] <gaughen> beuno --^
[15:41] <gaughen> the login.ubunut.com lists launchpad as a site I've last authenticated to
[15:41] <beuno> gaughen, no, I think that 2fa for the community is still in beta
[15:42] <beuno> so you need to join the beta team
[15:42] <beuno> "As of May 2012, 2-factor authentication is available only to early beta-testers. If you are interested in trying it, Contact ISD and ask us for access. The feature will be fully rolled out to the public as soon as it's ready. "
[15:43] <gaughen> oooh, okay so I should contact this ISD group.
[15:43] <beuno> gaughen, give me a sec, I'll get you the link to the team
[15:43] <beuno> short-circuit it
[15:43] <gaughen> I'll give it a go, beuno. cool!
[15:43] <gaughen> beuno - awesome!
[19:23] <Seveas> hello
[19:24] <Seveas> I uploaded an utterly broken orig.tar.gz to a PPA. So I deleted the package (before it even built). But now when I upload the correct tar.gz, launchpad complains that the file already exists but with different content, how can I convince launchpad that I'm uploading the correct version?
[19:25] <Seveas> The PPA is https://launchpad.net/~dennis/+archive/python/ - the file is github3.py_0.7.1.orig.tar.gz
[19:32] <Ampelbein> Seveas: You can't upload the same file with different contents.
[19:38] <Seveas> even after deleting the package?
[19:38] <Seveas> that's weird. So you're not allowed to make mistakes...
[19:41] <dobey> you're allowed to make mistakes. change history to fix it. you have to own the mistakes you make.
[19:43] <Seveas> I *deleted* the package, I expect launchpad to then delete the package and all it knows about it. The package was never built, there is nothing depending on it. Are there any actual good reasons for this unintuitive (and imho backwards) behaviour?
[19:43] <Seveas> because now I cannot actually upload the upstream orig.tar.gz
[19:45] <Ampelbein> The point is that it is possible that the file you uploaded was downloaded by someone else. Then you have 2 files with conflicting data from the *same* source.
[19:45] <dobey> it is the same policy as the ubuntu archive itself. you cannot upload the same version multiple times with different contents
[19:45] <dobey> deleting the files, doesn't delete history
[19:47] <Seveas> I don't buy the "this is the same as for ubuntu" argument. In that case it shouldn't allow to delete at all
[19:47] <Seveas> and if a package was never built, nobody will have downloaded it
[19:47] <dobey> why not? we delete entire archives of ubuntu packages when we EOL them
[19:47] <Ampelbein> But the source package was published.
[19:48] <Seveas> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/warty/ -- ubuntu releases don't get deleted...
[19:49] <dobey> show me those files on us.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:49] <dobey> anyway
[19:50] <dobey> it is how it is
[19:50] <dobey> complaining about it in here isn't going to change anything