[00:04] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdbusmenu/+bug/1239473 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libappindicator/+bug/1239474
[00:04] <xnox> have been uploaded into the archive to enable arm64 builds.
[00:04] <xnox> I will convert it into branches and propose for the respective upstream projects.
[00:04] <xnox> no-change / no-affects on any other architectures.
[00:05] <xnox> (or maybe not uploaded, can't see at the moment)
[00:14] <xnox> #1 https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/libappindicator/fix-arm64/+merge/190846
[00:19] <xnox> #2 https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/libdbusmenu/fix-arm64/+merge/190847
[00:29] <xnox> right those two uploads are in unapproved.
[00:29] <xnox> but if we can push them via CI that's fine as well.
[04:58] <rsalveti> triggering a new build, with the fixes for the multimedia stack, plus new ofono and telepathy-ofono
[05:44] <jibel> ogra_, cjwatson where are changelogs for click packages?
[06:01] <didrocks> psivaa: good morning!
[06:10] <jibel> salut didrocks
[06:10] <didrocks> bonjour jibel
[06:16] <didrocks> hey Mirv
[06:17] <Mirv> hey didrocks
[06:17] <didrocks> Mirv: how was your week-end?
[06:18] <Mirv> didrocks: after I got to spend it, relaxing :)
[06:19] <didrocks> heh ;)
[06:19] <didrocks> Mirv: do you feel ready to handle landing request 208?
[06:24] <Mirv> didrocks: yeah I actually flashed the latest image + upgraded *url-dispatcher* already, I just don't know what all to test
[06:25] <didrocks> Mirv: launching apps through AP (so just ensuring one app starts) or dogfooding launching some apps from unity8
[06:25] <Mirv> yeah, so launching of (click) applications is the key. trying various ways then.
[06:26] <didrocks> Mirv: oh also, if you have a media, clicking on that media to get the app launched
[06:28] <Mirv> right
[06:58] <popey> didrocks: we releasing #95?
[06:58] <popey> (also, good morning)
[06:58] <rsalveti> 96 is out, should have a few fixes for media playback
[06:58] <didrocks> popey: good morning! It's hard to track what we want, there is #96 which was kicked as well (I upgraded to that one)
[06:59] <rsalveti> thumbnailing should work fine as well
[06:59] <rsalveti> just tested, worked fine with my sample videos
[06:59] <popey> ah
[06:59] <popey> ok
[06:59]  * popey flashes
[06:59] <rsalveti> and I'm gone :-)
[06:59] <rsalveti> later
[06:59] <didrocks> rsalveti: nice news! (but in an email in the future for images we didn't expect would be great)
[06:59] <didrocks> rsalveti: enjoy your night! and thanks again for the thumbnail, we're going to test it :)
[06:59] <rsalveti> didrocks: lool knew that
[06:59] <didrocks> rsalveti: I'll tell him to email then
[07:00] <rsalveti> we synced before he went off, image is just out :-)
[07:00] <rsalveti> that's why I'm saying here instead
[07:00] <rsalveti> anyway, later :-)
[07:01] <didrocks> rsalveti: yeah, I looked over and figured it out this morning. But thanks for confirming (try to sleep more, you should be fine now for 13.10) ;)
[07:01] <didrocks> (one or two cycles of sleep :p)
[07:09] <Mirv> btw dx-autopilot-intel was gone, power cycling helped
[07:10] <didrocks> Mirv: :(
[07:11] <didrocks> psivaa: tell me once you are around
[07:22] <Mirv> didrocks: with the new url-dispatcher I seem to lose ability to launch music or video from Dash. reverting to the old one fixes that, and upgrading again (+reboot) loses it.
[07:22] <Mirv> apps themselves seem to launch fine
[07:22] <didrocks> Mirv: ok, please note it and ping upstream
[07:22] <didrocks> (nice catch ;))
[07:22] <Mirv> yep
[07:30] <jibel> psivaa, almost nothing ran on latest smoketest (build 96) 82 test against 312 for builkd 95
[07:32] <Mirv> jibel: isn't it in progress, numbers increasing?
[07:33] <didrocks> yeah, it started running like 45 minutes ago
[07:33] <jibel> Mirv, okay :)
[07:33] <jibel> psivaa, nm
[07:33] <didrocks> I still wonder why we had 0% of unity8 AP tests running on 95
[07:35] <jibel> Mirv, didrocks is there a way to know when test is complete?
[07:37] <didrocks> jibel: looking at the private jenkins instance is the only way AFAIK
[07:37] <didrocks> one sec
[07:39] <didrocks> jibel: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/saucy-touch_mir-mako-smoke-master/
[07:39] <didrocks> this is the master job
[07:40] <sil2100> Morning!
[07:40] <didrocks> hey sil2100, how are you?
[07:40]  * sil2100 inserted a SIM-card into his Ubuntu Touch during the weekend
[07:40] <didrocks> oh nice! how was it?
[07:41] <sil2100> And! It more or less works, although it seems the shell hangs up rather frequently for no reasons, hm
[07:41] <didrocks> thostr_: hey, FYI, we rejected the hud upload, see in landing plan req 202
[07:41] <didrocks> sil2100: which image #? normally, image 94 contains a fix for this
[07:41] <psivaa> didrocks: hey
[07:42] <didrocks> morning psivaa :)
[07:42] <psivaa> didrocks: morning
[07:42] <thostr_> didrocks: arghhhh, will have a look
[07:42] <sil2100> didrocks: aaah!
[07:42] <sil2100> didrocks: I think I was running 93
[07:42] <sil2100> Let me upgrade
[07:43] <didrocks> psivaa: I wanted to ask if you can give a look at why unity8 AP didn't run at all on run 95? (even if they seem to have passed on run 96, will be interesting to know why they got stuck)
[07:43] <psivaa> didrocks: sure will have a look
[07:43] <didrocks> thanks!
[07:43] <didrocks> sil2100: I never remember if you have a maguro or mako
[07:44] <sil2100> It's mako
[07:44] <didrocks> ok ;)
[07:45] <sil2100> I didn't like that data transfer was enabled by default ;p In Poland using phone internet is not so super cheap and frequent, especially with pay-card phones
[07:46] <didrocks> sil2100: I even don't know how we can turn that off
[07:46] <sil2100> I hoped that switching that off in settings actually switches it off
[07:46] <didrocks> ;)
[07:47] <psivaa> didrocks: unity8 tests in mako(mir) did in fact run but got stuck in the middle. The test timed out and failed to collect the test results.
[07:47] <didrocks> sil2100: or can yell at seb if it doesn't :p
[07:47] <didrocks> psivaa: ok, so we still have those stucking issues (I have the same here)
[07:47] <didrocks> I think as we don't have a lot to land for now, we should focus on improving the quality
[07:47] <didrocks> and work with upstream for this
[07:47] <didrocks> makes sense?
[07:49] <psivaa> didrocks: this time it happened with mako.. we used to have this issue with maguro when it ran notes tests but that issue has gone away lately
[07:50] <didrocks> psivaa: yeah, we should investigate those
[07:50] <didrocks> let's try to get something in order for the meeting
[07:50] <psivaa> didrocks: ack
[08:11] <didrocks> ogra_: once you are back from a well deserved (working apparently?) week-end :) mind testing 96 on maguro?
[08:11] <lool> Hi folks
[08:11] <didrocks> popey: 96 looks good to you?
[08:11] <didrocks> hey lool
[08:11] <popey> didrocks: no worse than 94 ☻
[08:11] <popey> which I think is our measure ☻
[08:11] <didrocks> popey: I'll take the positive path? :)
[08:11] <popey> glass half full
[08:12] <didrocks> popey: mind testing the thumbnailer thing?
[08:12] <didrocks> like adding a video, seeing the thumbnail…
[08:12] <popey> sure
[08:13] <jibel> didrocks, thumbnails now is working for videos, but mediascanner is a bit crashy
[08:13] <didrocks> jibel: do you have a bug # handy?
[08:13] <jibel> bug 1239561
[08:14] <didrocks> jibel: do you mind joining our meeting this morning? As we don't have a lot to land, I think we should focus on AP tests and crashers
[08:14] <didrocks> jibel: it's in 15 minutes
[08:14] <jibel> didrocks, okay
[08:14] <didrocks> thanks!
[08:14] <lool> didrocks: images >> you might be worrying a lot because the .changes files are huge (even the update is huge); I wanted to have a build as late as we could on Sunday to get everything in archive in an image with test results on Monday morning
[08:14] <popey> didrocks: thumbnailing works, but looks awful
[08:15] <lool> the actual landings are in the spreadsheet; I've just updated the last line which went into image #96
[08:15] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-10-14-091459.png
[08:15] <popey> aspect ratio is all futzed
[08:15] <ev> morning folks
[08:15] <didrocks> lool: well, tests results are still not there for 96 ;)
[08:15] <didrocks> lool: I'm just asking that we sync by email for things not planned so that we have some infos when starting the day
[08:15] <lool> popey: the head is flipped to to bottom too!
[08:15] <didrocks> I'll reiterate during the meeting
[08:15] <lool> didrocks: Yeah, I think that's too late
[08:16] <popey> she's laying upside down lool ☻
[08:16] <didrocks> lool: for that one, yeah, let's try to get better at it in the future :)
[08:16] <lool> popey: I know  :-)
[08:16] <popey> oh ☻
[08:16] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAn0wqfzNxE nice video IMO
[08:16] <didrocks> popey: well, at least, better than nothing :p
[08:16] <popey> yes
[08:16] <lool> popey: can't open
[08:16] <lool> video unavailable
[08:17] <popey> ☹
[08:17] <lool> might be reserved to UK
[08:17] <didrocks> lool: use a real webbrowser :p
[08:18] <lool> indeed
[08:23] <ogra_> didrocks, after the meeting (cant download and hangout at the same time)
[08:26] <jibel> didrocks, can you send me the link to the meeting pelase?
[08:26] <jibel> please
[08:27] <didrocks> ogra_: sure sure :)
[08:27] <didrocks> jibel: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1585c45e6625d227fc27864efb6eeb247667a3e2
[08:29] <cjwatson> jibel: il n'y a rien
[08:30] <lool> lol
[08:30] <lool> Je palerai à Colin en Français à partir de maintenant
[08:30] <didrocks> \o/
[08:30] <didrocks> sil2100: joining?
[08:31] <popey> didrocks: we publishing 96?
[08:31] <sil2100> Yes yes
[08:31] <lool> popey: might be too early to tell
[08:31] <didrocks> popey: want to join to the meeting?
[08:31] <didrocks> see the url above ^
[08:31] <cjwatson> ça n'est pas une bonne idée :-P
[08:31] <lool> :-)
[08:31] <vila> ev: joining ^ ?
[08:31] <didrocks> lool: waiting for you as well :)
[08:32] <sil2100> Damn
[08:35] <ogra_> lool, i dont see a single maliit .crash file in the tests
[08:35] <ogra_> lool, they are all unity8
[08:48] <asac> psivaa: can you share the spreadsheet where we try to keep a log of retries?
[08:48] <asac> psivaa: share it with lool and didrocks
[08:48] <psivaa> asac: ack
[08:48] <asac> (as they seem to start retrying jobs now)
[08:50] <asac> lool: didrocks: the idea is that we dont just retry jobs, but if we retry also notes what we retried and a very high level reason in a spreadsheet
[08:50] <asac> so we can later look whats there
[08:50] <psivaa> lool: didrocks: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjwxZmhDIclsdHMzTmF6RjM0ek5pODJ4aFdINmRoUWc#gid=0
[08:53] <lool> didrocks: I was actually some important mir changes in the pipe; some might be in devel branch but not in trunk, but no ask in plan and I guess not a lot of mir folks here today
[08:53] <lool> cjwatson: when do we try to have the last desktop build?  tomorrow?
[08:54] <lool> thostr_: hey!
[08:54] <popey> sil2100: i need a reliable way of re-running tests on device.. do you have one?
[08:54] <cjwatson> lool: infinity was going to try to have one today, but I think it'll need fixing and tomorrow's probably more realistic
[08:55] <lool> thostr_: heads up on hud: so as I think you saw already, there was some issue in testing it; it's unfortunate because we also really want the fixes; there's a threat that we soon cant update it anymore as desktop images get finalized
[08:55] <lool> cjwatson: Ok; so we should track super closely the last seeded-in-desktop uploads we still want to try to get in
[08:55] <cjwatson> Yes, definitely
[08:55] <sil2100> popey: what do you mean by 'reliable' ;) ?
[08:56] <lool> cjwatson: hud is one, ubuntu-sounds is another one; mir might be one too I guess, albeit not sure it gets into the desktop image
[08:56] <popey> sil2100: well, it didnt work at all the other day.
[08:56] <cjwatson> lool: mir doesn't
[08:56] <popey> sil2100: do you use utah, phablet-test-run... etc what do people actually use that works
[08:56] <sil2100> popey: you mean for the unity8 tests?
[08:56] <lool> seb128: ^ ubuntu-sounds upload is getting a shrinking upload window; we might have to push back on getting the sounds in
[08:56] <popey> no, application tests
[08:56] <cjwatson> lool: you can use "seeded-in-ubuntu" for quick checks
[08:56] <seb128> lool, what upload?
[08:56] <sil2100> popey: for normal application tests I always used phablet-test-run and that was working
[08:56] <didrocks> thanks psivaa
[08:56] <popey> sil2100: ok
[08:57] <sil2100> Not sure how it is with the latest image
[08:57] <lool> cjwatson: yes, that's what I meant on mir: it's in supported seed but not in desktop image
[08:57] <Mirv> usually it ~works for non-unity8
[08:57] <cjwatson> lool: Right, so not a problem
[08:57] <lool> cjwatson: so will be stuck in review but doesn't need a respin IIUC
[08:57] <Mirv> and non-uitoolkit
[08:57] <lool> ok
[08:57] <cjwatson> lool: (since xmir never happened)
[08:57] <lool> yeah
[08:58] <seb128> lool, the design guys didn't open the bug I asked them to open/didn't share their files yet, so I guess that's not going to be for release
[08:58] <sil2100> hm, hangout crash
[08:59] <lool> seb128: ok
[08:59] <lool> seb128: would you or should I tell them in a email?
[08:59] <seb128> lool, if you want to do it, feel free
[08:59] <lool> seb128: should I offer an upload deadline for 2pm UTC?
[08:59] <seb128> lool, also I think they said on friday that they got the OK to replace the desktop login sound, but not the ringtone/message ones yet
[09:00] <seb128> lool, I'm not even sure we want/can replace the desktop login sound without a FFe
[09:00] <lool> seb128: I think we want a FFE
[09:00] <lool> seb128: I didnt know it affected the desktop sound thouhg
[09:00] <lool> I thought it was a phone login sound  :-)
[09:00] <lool> which I found weird
[09:00] <seb128> lool, @re upload limit, 2pm wfm, but I'm not the one to ask, that's a release team topic
[09:00] <seb128> lool, no, I think Mark liked their login sound and want it used for the desktop
[09:01] <seb128> lool, but maybe I misunderstood ... ;-)
[09:04] <didrocks> sil2100: Mirv: ok, so please, each time you see a crash on your phone as well, try to retrace it (jibel can help if you have difficulties with this)
[09:04] <didrocks> sil2100: Mirv: I personnally always have a lot of crashes still on the phone
[09:05] <didrocks> seb128: that's my understanding as well (hey btw ;))
[09:06] <seb128> didrocks, hey ;-)
[09:06] <ogra_> jibel, did you notice that my changelog has click packages included now ? i guess you will need to adjust for this on your side
[09:06] <lool> seb128: sent
[09:06] <seb128> lool, thanks
[09:08] <thostr_> lool: having Pete on HUD
[09:08] <lool> just 2 fails on unity8 tests?  wow
[09:08] <didrocks> thanks thostr_!
[09:09] <thostr_> lool: it's that one, right: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hud/+bug/1239016
[09:09] <lool> thostr_: right that's who I thought
[09:09] <didrocks> lool: yeah, I guess we got "lucky" on crash
[09:09] <lool> didrocks: get lucky!
[09:09] <Mirv> didrocks: yep, I'll continue with my retracing attemps (have had some problems so far)
[09:09] <lool> thostr_: yes
[09:10] <lool> thostr_: we have another similar regression, but specific to touch images: url-dispatcher
[09:10] <lool> thostr_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/url-dispatcher/+bug/1239565
[09:11] <Mirv> jibel: on desktop retracing I seem to always get a complaint (E: ) about missing source package, this time unity8 - is that normal? an updated .crash file does get outputted
[09:11] <Mirv> with about the same size as the original .crash file
[09:13] <Mirv> eh, and what, trying to apport-cli that updated .crash file, I get complaint that it's invalid error report, plus then it also deleted it
[09:15] <lool> didrocks: I just checked on what was missing for PPA
[09:15] <lool> didrocks: we pull 2 coreapps from it + 2 plugins for these; filemanager and music-app
[09:16] <lool> filemanager was ready and music-app had a candidate; I think we should try to get them in if sergiusens can
[09:16] <didrocks> lool: do they fix AP bugs?
[09:16] <lool> didrocks: No sorry, this was about dropping the PPA from builds
[09:16] <didrocks> lool: would be nice to only take them if they fix AP issues as both are failing
[09:16] <didrocks> ah ok
[09:17] <didrocks> Mirv: added the sdk FYI (as some AP tests don't pass)
[09:17] <lool> didrocks: I'm concerned we might have uploads to do before release as part of the final image end game
[09:17] <didrocks> Mirv: sil2100: popey: as soon as you have infos from upstream, please add them to the google doc (on why the tests are failing)
[09:17] <lool> worst case would be if we have to change anything in the desktop image
[09:17] <sil2100> didrocks: aye!
[09:17] <didrocks> lool: yeah, I know/agree
[09:17] <didrocks> lool: hence I guess working on hud first
[09:17] <lool> didrocks: yes exactly
[09:18] <lool> didrocks: you guys had a meeting on how stuff works post-release already; should we reconvene later today?
[09:18] <thostr_> lool: which version (from when) of url-dispatcher regresses?
[09:19] <didrocks> lool: there is one for the details which is coming (but asac knows more on when he want to setup the meting)
[09:19] <lool> thostr_: the one in PPA; should be noted in the bug report
[09:19] <lool> thostr_: this is the one adding the desired appid feature
[09:19] <lool> didrocks: ok
[09:19] <thostr_> lool: ok.
[09:20] <popey> didrocks: ya
[09:23] <Mirv> thostr_: updated the bug report a bit to have steps
[09:24] <seb128> lool, so yeah, that's what I though, they login sound is for desktop, and they didn't get ack to use the ringtone one yet
[09:26] <thostr_> Mirv: just to double check: have you updated music app to very latest version as well?
[09:30] <Mirv> thostr_: I didn't, as it's not in landing plan
[09:30] <thostr_> Mirv: can you still give it a try?
[09:31] <ev> vila: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/867919d6e2c69ad7bbee757788adcca760fd22a6
[09:32] <popey> ogra_ / didrocks do we have a bug somewhere for the "2 characters inserted" problem?
[09:32] <ogra_> popey, not sure
[09:32] <ogra_> bfiller would know
[09:33] <jibel> popey, yes, there is one let me find it
[09:33] <popey> thanks jibel
[09:33] <ogra_> (if he was up already)
[09:35] <didrocks> ev: hey, once you have some time, can you try to check with doanac on the truncated crash files so that utah wait for apport to finish its collect?
[09:40] <thostr_> Mirv: just updated the dispatcher... still works for me
[09:41] <ogra_> seb128, Laney, my language selection seems to alwas set LANGUAGE=de:en ... if there is no de_DE in that list it automatically picks the first which makes the UI show me austritan german (de_AT)
[09:42] <Mirv> thostr_: later yes. and video? the landing plan would need updating to mention which components to test and land at the same time.
[09:42] <jibel> popey, I found one with character inserted when pressing the power button but I cannot find the other, can you report a new one?
[09:42] <seb128> ogra_, yeah, I noticed that as well ... can you open a bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+filebug ?
[09:42] <ogra_> doing
[09:43] <seb128> ogra_, thanks
[09:43] <thostr_> Mirv: I'm running #96 and updated the dispatcher to 20131014
[09:43] <thostr_> Mirv: nothing else, and I can still launch music and videos
[09:44] <popey> jibel: ok, where should I file it?
[09:44] <jibel> popey, against ubuntu-keyboard, it affects all the apps
[09:44] <popey> ok
[09:44] <popey> ta
[09:45] <thostr_> Mirv: or, wait...
[09:45] <seb128> jibel, popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/1237341 ?
[09:46] <ogra_> seb128, bug 1239593 for you
[09:46] <seb128> ogra_, danke
[09:46] <popey> thanks seb128
[09:46] <jibel> seb128, thank you, that's the report I was looking for
[09:46] <seb128> popey, jibel: yw (took me a while to find it back as well)
[09:46] <popey> heh
[09:47] <jibel> popey, maybe change the description to something that better describe the problem
[09:48] <lool> fginther: thanks for your fantastic support to CI/autolanding issues, over the week-end too  :-)
[09:50] <thostr_> Mirv: got it reproduced. We'll look into it
[09:51] <lool> seb128: can you help Jouni for the FFE part?
[09:51] <seb128> lool, yes, he just /queried me
[09:51] <popey> jibel: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_mir/mako/96:20131014:20131014/4715/music-app-autopilot/483486/ is opaque to me.. can't see what's causing it..
[09:52] <lool> very classy to use dropbox for a proposed update to the official ubuntu sound  :-)
[09:53] <lool> seb128: hmm I'm getting garbage at the end of the sound
[09:53] <lool> tchit
[09:53] <ogra_> hah, cool
[09:54] <ogra_> between two reboots the ubuntu authenticator showed up on my phone
[09:54]  * ogra_ installs
[09:55] <Mirv> thostr_: ok, thanks!
[09:55] <jibel> popey, not sure but it seems to be a test that can only run on X11
[09:56] <ev> didrocks: is there more context to this somewhere?
[09:56] <didrocks> ev: just what we discussed with Saviq, one sec
[09:56] <seb128> lool, no garbage here, how do you play it?
[09:56] <didrocks> 09:34:34   didrocks | http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-touch_mir-mako-smoke-unity8-autopilot/21/artifact/clientlogs/_usr_bin_un
[09:56] <didrocks>                     | ity8.32011.crash/*view*/
[09:56] <didrocks> 09:34:49      Saviq | didrocks, smokes truncate .crash files
[09:56] <didrocks> 09:35:04      Saviq | didrocks, I won't get anything out of it
[09:56] <didrocks> 09:35:12      Saviq | didrocks, they do
[09:56] <didrocks> 09:35:20      Saviq | didrocks, a unity8 crash needs to be some 12MB at least
[09:57] <didrocks> 09:36:14      Saviq | didrocks, utah doesn't wait for them to be completed, AFAICT
[09:57] <didrocks> ev: ^
[09:57] <didrocks> (just pasting the interesting bits)
[09:57] <ev> ahhh
[09:57] <ev> will do
[09:57] <ev> thanks
[09:57] <didrocks> yw
[10:00] <ev> didrocks: going to send an email for this, since it's a public holiday in 'merica
[10:00] <didrocks> yep, sounds better to not loose it
[10:01] <lool> seb128: vlc; that might be the reason
[10:01] <lool> seb128: thanks for infirming
[10:01] <seb128> lool, works fine in totem and aplay here
[10:01] <lool> cool
[10:01] <lool> ev, didrocks: I also pinged plars and doanac about this last week and they said they had an idea on how to fix this IIRC
[10:01] <lool> but not sure it's underway
[10:02] <t1mp> is it known that CI is still failing on ui-toolkit MRs such as this one? https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/crossFadeImage_SourceSize_fix/+merge/187454
[10:03] <popey> didrocks: doc updated
[10:04] <didrocks> popey: great! you are going to work with baloon (probably tomorrow) and the community to get them looked at and fixed by release?
[10:04] <popey> didrocks: yup!
[10:05] <didrocks> thx!
[10:06] <didrocks> ogra_: has your download finished?
[10:07] <didrocks> 96 seems good from an AP front
[10:09] <ogra_> didrocks, yes, its fine, i had one hard lockup during webvideo playback
[10:09] <ogra_> (though i madly started and stopped the video)
[10:09] <didrocks> ogra_: oh? but after a reboot, it was fine?
[10:09] <didrocks> ahah ;)
[10:09] <ogra_> yep
[10:10] <didrocks> ogra_: be patient, don't ask for trouble, we are not there yet :p
[10:10] <didrocks> ogra_: popey: promoting #96 then?
[10:10] <ogra_> i guess its still not 100% ...
[10:10] <ogra_> but close ... at least on maguro :)
[10:10] <ogra_> will do, gimme a sec to finish breakfast :)
[10:12] <didrocks> breakfast… but but, it's 12!
[10:12] <ogra_> didrocks, popey, 96/20131014 promoted
[10:12] <sil2100> Strangeness, on 96 my keyboard stops appearing after a while
[10:12] <didrocks> thanks ogra_ :)
[10:12] <ogra_> didrocks, i dont eat in the morning :)
[10:12] <sil2100> I have to restart maliit to get it working again then ;/
[10:13] <didrocks> sil2100: do you have a crash file?
[10:13] <ogra_> hmm it should respawn
[10:13] <sil2100> It's not crashing
[10:13] <sil2100> It's still running
[10:13] <ogra_> oh
[10:13] <sil2100> Just not appearing - I need to *restart* it to get it working
[10:13] <didrocks> thostr_: any idea? something around that known? ^
[10:14] <sil2100> It already happened twice here
[10:17] <mardy> hi, could please someone check what is wrong with this job: http://10.97.0.26:8080/job/signon-ui-daily/label=pbuilder/52/
[10:17] <mardy> I suspect that it's using some old PPA for Qt5
[10:18] <sil2100> But anyway, I like the speed improvements in Mir on Touch we got now
[10:22] <popey> didrocks: ogra_ ok
[10:23] <lool> sil2100: I'm getting weird behavior like that too
[10:23] <lool> sil2100: hmm we haven't got the speed improvement yet, did we?
[10:23] <lool> or are you testing an updated mir?
[10:23]  * lool pulls mir
[10:26] <popey> mail sent
[10:29] <didrocks> lool: not there yet
[10:30]  * lool pulls tvoss
[10:48] <ogra_> did anyone notice that were at 30sec boot time now ?
[10:48] <ogra_> :)
[10:48] <ogra_> (30+ on maguro, 30- on mako)
[10:50] <Mirv> if someone has time, please try to debug the "Killed" that comes quite soon with phablet-test-run ubuntuuitoolkit - I don't see a surge of memory usage at least
[10:50] <lool> online audio / video playback is pretty poor
[10:50] <Mirv> also, can someone explain why I get this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6235380/ simply with gdb /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/bin/qmlscene ?
[10:50] <lool> video >> stops after a frame or so, then audio only for first video, other videos dont open anymore
[10:51] <lool> audio >> grooveshark ends up failing due to missing flash
[10:51] <lool> 7digital worked
[10:51] <lool> (ah volume indicator fixed!)
[10:56] <ogra_> video playback is smooth on maguro if you dont mistreat it to badly
[10:56] <ogra_> (start/stop a youtube video fast gets the browser to hang)
[10:57] <ogra_> sintel is flickering though :/
[10:57] <lool> == Publishing upstart-app-launch (misc stack) ==
[10:57] <didrocks> great!
[10:57] <ogra_> we should get our multimedia devloper a mako ;)
[11:03] <thostr_> Mirv: lool: didrocks: following up the dispatcher issue: this is because it expects video and music app to be click packages. So, testing that has to go hand in hand with applying music click package
[11:07] <didrocks> thostr_: Mirv: lool: can we revert that and land it? then, sergiusens can put that back once he's doing the real transition
[11:11] <lool> thostr_: not sure mediaplayer will be right now
[11:11] <lool> thostr_: let's backout the update to the routing tables
[11:12] <thostr_> lool: you mean mediascanner was already updated to become click?
[11:12] <lool> thostr_: mediaplayer
[11:12] <lool> thostr_: no
[11:12] <lool> thostr_: but it's less critical to clickify it
[11:12] <lool> cause it's in archive
[11:12] <thostr_> right, mediaplayer I meant...
[11:13] <lool> bah it kind of sucks to go back and forth
[11:13] <lool> but we dont have the choice
[11:13] <thostr_> ok, then let's go back
[11:13] <lool> thostr_: we want to land the new code except the routing table updates; just update for the ones currently clicks
[11:13] <thostr_> and foward again on this later/tomorrow then
[11:13] <lool> thostr_: list in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/pending/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.manifest
[11:14] <lool> thostr_: very bottom
[11:14] <lool> thostr_: click:com.ubuntu.calendar is probably only one
[11:14] <thostr_> lool: can we wait for patch once Ted is online?
[11:15] <lool> thostr_: it's US holiday though?
[11:15] <thostr_> ok, then I get mhr3 doing it... it's just reverting some stuff
[11:15] <lool> thostr_: it should be easy to do
[11:15] <lool> even I could do it  ;-)
[11:15] <ogra_> bah
[11:15] <sergiusens> lool, thostr_ on Friday I talked to Bill; he says it's too risky now o switch the apps he owns
[11:15] <lool> but it's about lunch time, so about to run out
[11:15] <ogra_> all my clocks are gone !
[11:15] <ogra_> not even one on the lock screen
[11:15] <lool> sergiusens: uh
[11:16] <thostr_> lool: then please do, and I"ll double check you didn't leave one out
[11:16] <lool> sergiusens: ah non-coreapps
[11:16] <lool> sergiusens: but coreapps still underway?
[11:16] <sergiusens> lool, yeah, media, camera, gallery
[11:16] <lool> thostr_: please find someone cause I'm gone for 3 hours at least
[11:16] <sergiusens> lool, yes
[11:16] <thostr_> lool: ok
[11:16]  * ev lunch
[11:16] <sergiusens> lool, core apps are mostly done; they just lack proper testing
[11:16] <lool> I could do late in the day, but I'm sure there will be other things
[11:16] <lool> sergiusens: ok; you're landing this today?
[11:16] <sergiusens> lool, proper testing being that they work, but the autopilot stuff is screwed up
[11:17] <lool> sergiusens: filemanager and music-app I guess
[11:17] <sergiusens> lool, yes, that's the target
[11:17] <lool> sergiusens: can you update us here once you have them later today?
[11:17] <lool> sergiusens: excited that we can drop the PPA then!
[11:17] <lool> sergiusens: we need to sync your upload with an url-dispatcher update (see above)
[11:17] <lool> sergiusens: for music-app
[11:18] <mhr3> sergiusens, let's take it here :)
[11:18] <thostr_> sergiusens: so, just to be clear: we aim now at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/pending/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.manifest (listed click packages at bottom) + filemanager and music app as click
[11:18] <lool> mhr3: mediaplayer is staying as a .deb in any case
[11:18] <sergiusens> lool, yeah, not sure how that MR got in, it was supposed to be in sync with the switches
[11:18] <mhr3> ok, so we need partial-revert
[11:18] <thostr_> mhr3: yes
[11:18] <sergiusens> thostr_, yes
[11:18] <lool> sergiusens: maybe prioritize music-app as to land with url-dispatcher?
[11:19] <thostr_> sergiusens: ok, then mhr3 adjust to that list
[11:19] <sergiusens> lool, ack
[11:19]  * lool hugs everyone; all the right people to tackle this
[11:19] <lool> now I can go and have lunch and pickup my sick kid  :-)
[11:19] <sergiusens> lool, the original autopilot test for these do some crazy moknkey patching on home that I'm trying to get out of
[11:20] <lool> sergiusens: aha
[11:20] <sergiusens> lool, I'm not sure why these tests weren't thought out from the start :/
[11:20] <lool> sergiusens: often the problem with our AP tests unfortunately
[11:20] <lool> they are often writtne with less quality than the code
[11:21]  * cjwatson removes the proposed-migration exceptions for calendar-app and ubuntu-terminal-app
[11:21] <lool> and then we suffer a lot from them
[11:21] <lool> instead of benefiting
[11:21] <lool> cjwatson: thanks, sorry for lack of heads up
[11:21] <cjwatson> It's OK, don't need one
[11:21] <cjwatson> Unused exceptions aren't especially harmful, I just like to ratchet up the constraints
[11:24] <mhr3> sergiusens, calendar and clock are properly clicks now, right?
[11:24] <didrocks> sil2100: any progress on the rss reader + discussing about the keyboard with upstream? (I didn't follow)
[11:25] <mhr3> sergiusens, so the only change is that mediaplayer will remain deb, and i'll keep the change to consider music click, ok?
[11:26] <mhr3> sergiusens, or should the music change be done later?
[11:26] <didrocks> ogra_: clock -> crash?
[11:26] <sergiusens> mhr3, music should be done later today
[11:26] <ogra_> didrocks, probably, didnt check for charsh files yet
[11:27] <sergiusens> cjwatson, hey, did you see my MR/email?
[11:28] <cjwatson> sergiusens: I was going to ask you what you meant by credentials and how I'd generate ubuntu-archive some of its own
[11:30] <sergiusens> cjwatson, I just used lp:click-toolbelt and generated an u1 login; it saves the token/consumer key/secret and put those into a json
[11:30] <Mirv> jibel: reping on my tracing problems
[11:30] <cjwatson> sergiusens: Can this be attached to an existing SSO account?
[11:31] <sergiusens> cjwatson, the tokens are to never expire unless you manually revoke them from u1 (that's what the u1 folk told me)
[11:31] <sergiusens> cjwatson, yes
[11:31] <jibel> Mirv, pong
[11:31] <jibel> Mirv, which tracing problem?
[11:31] <jibel> s
[11:32] <Mirv> jibel: 2h ago at :11, I get a complaint that the retraced (on desktop) .crash file is invalid and apport-cli deletes it
[11:32] <mhr3> sergiusens, thostr_ https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/url-dispatcher/mediaplayer-still-deb/+merge/190923
[11:32] <sergiusens> cjwatson, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-hackers/click-toolbelt/trunk/view/head:/README
[11:33] <sergiusens> cjwatson, I'm guessing you won't like the python package names in there
[11:34] <cjwatson> I expect I can run that on my desktop
[11:34] <sergiusens> cjwatson, yes
[11:35] <Mirv> jibel: so apport has run on device, I've apport-cli viewed + kept it there, transfered to desktop, and ran sudo apport-retrace -S ~/daisy/retracer/config/ _usr_bin_unity8.32011.crash -o updated_unity8.crash , then try to apport_cli that updated_unity8.crash
[11:35] <sergiusens> cjwatson, it fails on python3, hadn't had time to look at pindonga's code thoroughly yet; but works fine on 2
[11:36] <jibel> Mirv, do you have an entry in apt.conf you use for retracing for a deb-src with universe enabled?
[11:36] <cjwatson> sergiusens: I'm mostly raising an eyebrow at its abuse of the click namespace
[11:36] <cjwatson> and mailing pindonga about it
[11:37] <Mirv> jibel: yes, I added that but otherwise getting same results (just no complaint anymore about missing sources)
[11:37] <jibel> Mirv, config file of daisy just have a source entry for main
[11:37] <sergiusens> cjwatson, he wanted to merge it with click; I already have an mr that changes it and we agreed he would talk to you about it
[11:37] <Mirv> jibel: yes, I noticed
[11:38] <cjwatson> sergiusens: Only if there are enough C libraries that this won't be gratuitously painful for the rewrite
[11:38] <Mirv> jibel: both the original + after apport-retrace .crash files at http://people.canonical.com/~tjyrinki/unity8_apport/
[11:38] <jibel> Mirv, thanks looking
[11:38] <sergiusens> cjwatson, right, told him that and that you wanted to keep the scope of responsibilities for click limited
[11:38] <Mirv> the updated one gives error from apport-cli and gets deleted
[11:40] <thostr_> mhr3: jenkins fails...
[11:46] <sergiusens> lool, didrocks bw, calendar is release blocked waiting for some qt5 or eds lands; do you know if that happened?
[11:46] <didrocks> sergiusens: qt5organizer-eds landed if that's the question
[11:47] <sergiusens> didrocks, ack, I'll get in touch with dpm; was that today or late friday?
[11:47] <cjwatson> wow, click-toolbelt even entirely overrides the click command and breaks whatever you have installed already (fortunately I used a virtualenv)
[11:48] <dpm> sergiusens, yeah, I saw that, but we cannot get the calendar EDS branch merged, as the jenkins upstream merger is not enabled for calendar app
[11:48] <cjwatson> use yer own namespaces, people :)
[11:48] <didrocks> argh, I guess lool cleaned the spreadsheet
[11:48] <sergiusens> cjwatson, oh, I thought that was implied (virtualenv)
[11:48] <didrocks> sergiusens: Friday morning
[11:48] <sergiusens> didrocks, to be honest if you aren't looking at that spreadsheet every day, it's really hard to follow :-)
[11:49] <cjwatson> sergiusens: Yeah, but designing software so that it's unpackageable in conjunction with the obvious thing you might use it with is a fairly obvious fail
[11:49] <didrocks> sergiusens: that's why I tried to keep 5 days of backlog
[11:49] <didrocks> sergiusens: so that you can see what was crossed and in an image
[11:50] <sergiusens> cjwatson, I had that complaint as well
[11:51] <ogra_> didrocks, gdocs are totally not the medium for this kind of stuff (but we'll hopefully swithc to bugs soon for this)
[11:52] <didrocks> ogra_: let's see, but I do agree
[11:52] <t1mp> is this bug known with CI people? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1239646
[11:52] <t1mp> ^ who can we assign there?
[11:57] <cjwatson> sergiusens: click-toolbelt seems to give me a configparser-style output file.  Am I meant to transform this to json somehow?
[11:57] <cjwatson> Oh, I guess I see, maybe
[11:58] <sergiusens> cjwatson, just grab the 4 entries that matter and stick those into a json file
[11:58] <sergiusens> cjwatson, it's the last you will see of click-toolbelt if you wanted
[11:58] <cjwatson> Yeah, worked it out
[12:01] <cjwatson> sergiusens: Seems to work, thanks
[12:02] <sergiusens> cjwatson, as soon as we release I'll add a create_credentials or something script into that branch
[12:02] <sergiusens> and a readme
[12:03] <cjwatson> And if I crank up logging I can see it apparently doing the right thing for the webapps
[12:06] <sergiusens> great
[12:13] <sergiusens> fginther, I think you should really enable click testing on merges, it's not as flaky it feels (and uses upstart application). I can help with the setup
[12:26] <vila> t1mp: if you chase the report failures you end up with uitk test failing (https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro/2413/testReport/ for example) looks like a uitk issue to me ? Or do you see something else directly related to ci ?
[12:46] <asac> t1mp: updated bug
[12:46] <asac> t1mp: i wont read the reply in time, so if there is something let me know
[12:46] <asac> ev: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1239646
[12:46] <jibel> Mirv, I retraced you're U8 crash but it fails because several armhf packages are outdated on ddebs
[12:46] <asac> t1mp: in short. best way to go is to submit a merge proposal that fixes your tests
[12:46] <jibel> *our
[12:46] <jibel> *your
[12:48] <Mirv> jibel: hmm, okay. anything that should be done, or are those just lagging days behind normally?
[12:49] <jibel> Mirv, not sure what must be done, I'll ask pitti
[12:51]  * ev nods
[12:52] <asac> fginther: 1239646 ... thought we kept upstream merger disabled for components that have failures on dash
[12:52] <asac> maybe they can force tests somehow?
[12:52] <fginther> morning
[12:53] <asac> fginther: morning
[12:53] <asac> fginther: mayube that bug is invalid ... assuming that its just failing because of test failures rejected
[12:54] <fginther> asac, uitk tests are not passing on teach, even for trunk
[12:55] <fginther> s/teach/touch/
[12:55] <asac> fginther: sure. thought we dont enable the upstream merger though
[12:55] <asac> until thats fixed on dashboard
[12:55] <fginther> asac, the CI testing still runs, but not the auto-merger part
[12:55] <asac> fginther: ok, i thought we turned everythig off
[12:55] <asac> to avoid our infrastructure getting busted by folks retrying
[12:56] <asac> anyway, please update bug that the reason is indeed that the tests are failing./\
[12:58] <fginther> asac, the infrastucture has been sufficient, as long as people don't keep retrying, which I don't see evidence that this is a problem. but if it does get out of hand, I'll disable
[12:58] <asac> fginther: the idea was we turn that part off so people dont retry
[12:58] <asac> yeah but do it
[12:58] <asac> as you please
[12:59] <asac> or... not sure
[12:59] <asac> i really think we shouldn't even risk that people believe its a retry issue
[13:00] <asac> we dont have good data sources to find that out, can we?
[13:00] <asac> didrocks: lool: do you know if the videos lense is broken on maguro? i cant start a MP4 that i see there in a thumbnail
[13:01] <asac> fginther: i think we should turn it off... we dont know how often people retry and we dont want people to believe that our infrastructure is buggy. also this is what was communicated, no?
[13:01] <fginther> asac, we don't have the statistical data, but we have the fact that the tests are failing in smoke testing. If people are paying attention, they'll understand that the tests are simply not passing no matter how often they retry
[13:01] <didrocks> asac: I don't have maguro, I'm unsure ogra_ tested that
[13:02] <asac> fginther: they dont. they only start noticing issues when their tests fail or better, dont even get processed
[13:02] <asac> fginther: as you can see in the example above.
[13:02] <asac> rsalveti: ogra_: maguro doesnt work for me with thumnails and video
[13:04] <fginther> asac, what projects then are we relying on for fixes? we surely need to keep testing these, right?
[13:04] <fginther> otherwise we'll have no feedback that things are getting better
[13:04] <fginther> is this just unity8?
[13:05] <asac> fginther: everything that has failing tests.
[13:06] <asac> fginther: well, i can see how they need to use this to see if things get better... however
[13:06] <asac> they still need to somehow side-track it into the image anyway
[13:06] <t1mp> asac: about your reply on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1239646 I don't understand what you mean with " I think its likely that you are not in able to use upstream merger effectively again."
[13:06] <asac> if they need it for release, so i am not sure if the upstream merger helps
[13:06] <asac> t1mp: you have to fix your tests :)
[13:06] <asac> t1mp: then you can use it
[13:06] <asac> t1mp: it currently tells you that you have test failures
[13:06] <asac> nothing else
[13:07] <asac> fginther: anyway, guess lets not touch it anymore. is too confusing now that we kept that part running
[13:07] <asac> if we turn it off
[13:07] <t1mp> asac: all tests used to pass. None of the tests were changed and now almost all fail on weird things that I don't understand
[13:08] <asac> t1mp: right. MIR was forced into the archive
[13:08] <t1mp> asac: perhaps something is broken and our tests apps are not even in the foreground... or something like that
[13:08] <asac> people understood that this would happen and now its a bit chaos
[13:08] <asac> until everyeone has done the best to get stuff back
[13:08] <asac> t1mp: debug it :)
[13:09] <asac> t1mp: its bad that this happened, but if we all just take a look and see if we can reproduce then things will be good soon
[13:09] <asac> if we hope that MIR team can fix everything for us, then we wont be done
[13:11] <asac> t1mp: i would check with MIR team to see if they have an idea maybe?
[13:11] <asac> Mirv: do we know anything about the ui-toolkit test regressions?
[13:14] <t1mp> asac: does this particular test result tell you anything? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro/2413/testReport/junit/ubuntuuitoolkit.tests.gallery.test_gallery/ButtonsTestCase/test_buttons_standard_button_/
[13:14] <t1mp> it seems to fail on         self.app = self.launch_test_application(
[13:14] <t1mp>             base.get_qmlscene_launch_command(),
[13:14] <t1mp>             '-I' + _get_module_include_path(),
[13:14] <t1mp>             qml_file_path,
[13:14] <t1mp>             '--desktop_file_hint={0}'.format(desktop_file_path),
[13:14] <t1mp>             emulator_base=emulators.UbuntuUIToolkitEmulatorBase,
[13:14] <t1mp>             app_type='qt')
[13:15] <t1mp> so in the initialization before the actual test is even executed
[13:15] <t1mp> Mirv: ^ ?
[13:15] <t1mp> elopio: ^
[13:17] <ogra_> asac, works fine for me, whats wrong ?
[13:19] <ogra_> asac, sintel works fine for me, web-videos works so/so
[13:20] <asac> ogra_: forwarded you a mail with the example videos
[13:20] <asac> that have the most common encodings/container
[13:20] <asac> check those out
[13:20] <asac> all those have problems with colors in thumbnails and the thumbnail experience in general is very odd...
[13:20] <asac> e.g. you clickj it and it bounces sideways, but doesnt open the video really
[13:20] <ogra_> yeah, the aspect ration is a bit off
[13:20] <ogra_> *ratio
[13:21] <sergiusens> lool, Ran 5 tests in 89.309s for music app;not sure if balloons is in today,but I'll see who can merge our mr
[13:21] <ogra_> oh geez, cant people stop using BBB for video testing
[13:21] <ogra_> there are so many more free videos nowadays
[13:21] <asac> ogra_: you need to standardize on something
[13:21] <ogra_> asac, note that rick uses a mako
[13:21] <asac> ogra_: this is just content... the formats/encordings etc. is what matters
[13:22] <ogra_> asac, thats why we have sintel since day one
[13:22] <asac> ogra_: i know that rick uses a mako. hence i say that maguro is broken
[13:22] <asac> sintel?
[13:22] <ogra_> so nobody needs to watch BBB :)
[13:22] <asac> we dont have all the formats
[13:22] <sergiusens> t1mp, desktop file needs to be in the standard desktop file paths
[13:22] <asac> at least noone uses a common set of files
[13:22] <sergiusens> t1mp, check the unity8 log and look for rejects
[13:22] <ogra_> the mopvie we use for all video 1080p/h264 testing
[13:22] <ogra_> since we started
[13:23] <asac> well, its one movie
[13:23] <ogra_> asac, http://people.canonical.com/~jhodapp/sintel_trailer-1080p.mp4 has a copy
[13:23] <asac> we have a few combos to test
[13:23] <ogra_> we had more in the video demos
[13:23] <asac> i can add that too. but as i said, those videods dont work
[13:23] <ogra_> asac, rick has a mako
[13:23] <t1mp> sergiusens: this is on jenkins. how do I get the unity8 log there?
[13:23] <ogra_> mako is behind maguro wrt MM as far as i know
[13:23] <asac> ogra_: not for me :)
[13:23] <t1mp> kalikiana: ^ do you have those failures on your device also?
[13:24] <ogra_> (since jim only has a maguro to develop on)
[13:24] <asac> ogra_: maguro has troubles
[13:24] <ogra_> not here
[13:24] <sergiusens> t1mp, oh, which job?
[13:24] <asac> try the videos and formats above
[13:24] <ogra_> well, it does, but not something i would call a blocker
[13:24] <sergiusens> t1mp, nvm saw it
[13:24] <ogra_> (there is a slight flicker in sintel for me)
[13:24]  * asac tries sintel stuff
[13:25] <asac> ogra_: the thumbnails are green
[13:25] <ogra_> and the thumbnailer is awesome, it actually seems to use inotify now
[13:25] <asac> ogra_: if you click them they dont really open the videoplayer
[13:25] <ogra_> if i copy stuff it is picked up directly now
[13:25] <asac> ogra_: just a homescreen animation, but the video doesnt start
[13:25] <ogra_> asac, thats not how it works :)
[13:25] <asac> you dont click?
[13:25] <asac> err finger push
[13:25] <Mirv> asac: nothing from my side except getting the Killed (and eventual reboot) which I pinged ogra with a pastebin about
[13:25] <ogra_> asac, hold your finger on the thumbnail until the shell changes
[13:25] <ogra_> then click the play button that appeared
[13:26] <sergiusens> t1mp, from what I read earlier, fginther switched everything to using mir; the desktop file being loaded in you test job is /usr/lib/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/examples/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery.desktop which is not a secure path
[13:26] <sergiusens> t1mp, does this work on your device with mir?
[13:26] <sergiusens> t1mp, I'm speculating here; the @ci guys can help you out more
[13:26] <asac> ogra_: there is no play button :)
[13:26] <ogra_> asac, i have it in front of me
[13:27] <ogra_> get a new phone :P
[13:27] <asac> ogra_: not nice
[13:27] <asac> ogra_: sintel has the same issue on maguro
[13:27] <asac> bustage
[13:27] <Mirv> t1mp: well I do get crash with qmlscene alone myself, but I don't understand it since it happens every time. I filed bug #1239617 about it
[13:27] <asac> ogra_: ok after trying 20 times it finally showed
[13:27] <ogra_> asac, the thumbnail moves  to the center of the screen if you tap it ... if you then hold it you get a similar UI to the click install one
[13:28] <asac> the play scren
[13:28] <asac> but its not working well
[13:28] <ogra_> great
[13:28] <ogra_> works fine here after i know what to do
[13:28] <ogra_> took me as well a bit to figure it out
[13:28] <ev> asac: can you give the "Standup" Monday calendar item over to me
[13:29] <ogra_> playback works okayish too
[13:29] <ogra_> as i said a slight flicker
[13:29] <ev> asac: actually, let me put this on the team calendar
[13:29] <asac> rfowler: seems we are running out of maguros in the lab
[13:29] <ogra_> volume control, pause/play all works
[13:29] <asac> rfowler: can you go over there?
[13:29] <asac> ev: ^^
[13:29] <asac> ev: changed the owner to ubuntu ci engineering
[13:29] <asac> thanks
[13:29] <ev> thanks
[13:30] <ogra_> asac, how are web videos for you ? youtube plays for me (if i find a video that doesnt say "this cant be played on your device" at least)
[13:30] <lool> sergiusens: I can look at the mp
[13:30] <ogra_> the ones from the search seem to play too
[13:31] <ogra_> (a fullscreen mode for the web ones would be nice though)
[13:31] <asac> ogra_: how do i find youtube videos?
[13:31] <ogra_> asac, using the browser and going to youtube.com
[13:32] <didrocks> sil2100: are you struggling on ubuntu-rssreader-app-autopilot  ?
[13:32] <lool> https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/music-app/test_fixes_click got it
[13:32]  * didrocks still has issues trying to retrace unity8, no good stacktrace :/
[13:32] <ogra_> took me a while to find one that didnt complain about being not playable on my mobile device ... i guess the user agent string still bites us here
[13:32] <asac> ogra_: which videos can i play there?
[13:32] <sil2100> didrocks: yes, trying to reproduce and get tests running - asking psivaa to help out as well
[13:32] <asac> ogra_: this should just work, shoudlnt it?
[13:32] <asac> e.g. we tell it that we are mobile with html5 video
[13:33] <sil2100> didrocks: and helping debugging the keyboard issue as well
[13:33] <asac> and it should be fine... but we dont
[13:33] <sergiusens> lool, https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/music-app/test_fixes_click/+merge/190950
[13:33] <sergiusens> lool, that's the mr
[13:33] <didrocks> sil2100: good hunt :)
[13:34] <ev> standup: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/546fdf7256dff2066f5e78691849819a62e80a67
[13:35] <ogra_> asac, well, ask rsalveti and jhodapp what they used to test ... for me the videos that youtube allows on my device also play
[13:35] <sergiusens> lool, seems that the whole mediascanner database mangling made the mediascanner crash, so for click and for now, I just disabled the mangling
[13:35] <ogra_> i know for h264/1080p they use sintel ... not sure what they take for the pther formats
[13:36] <lool> didrocks: it's easy to readd the hidden things if you need to chekc something
[13:36] <lool> didrocks: just tick INIMAGE #95 etc. in the filter
[13:36] <lool> didrocks: but if it becomes too long, it's unmanageable
[13:36] <didrocks> lool: ah, they are only hidden? ok, will know for next time
[13:36] <lool> didrocks: we still have landing for the last many weeks yes
[13:37] <lool> didrocks: however I stopped waiting for promoted images before hiding as the list of landings was getting too long
[13:37] <didrocks> lool: yeah, but for upstream, it's nice to konw
[13:37] <didrocks> at least on the landing ask
[13:37] <didrocks> keep the lines crossed and greyed
[13:37] <didrocks> for some days
[13:38] <lool> sergiusens: kicked CI for it
[13:38] <lool> didrocks: I did
[13:38] <lool> didrocks: I kept them since Friday
[13:38] <lool> didrocks: I kept all the landings past this morning's meeting
[13:39] <lool> then once we had discussed everything for the next round, I've hidden up to the latest image
[13:39] <didrocks> lool: this morning, the landing ask was cleaned, wasn't it?
[13:39] <didrocks> lool: yeah, I'm talking about landing ask
[13:39] <didrocks> not landing plan
[13:39] <didrocks> what we cross in grey
[13:39] <lool> didrocks: I cleaned the landing asks up to image #96 yesterday, yes
[13:39] <didrocks> (I think most of upstream people just look at that one)
[13:40] <asac> thanks/win33
[13:40] <didrocks> yeah, I think we should wait for few days
[13:40] <lool> didrocks: I am not going to debate for the last 2 remaining days worth of landings
[13:40] <lool> I can say that I cant work with it anymore when the list is 20 entries
[13:40] <lool> either list
[13:40] <didrocks> lool: well, we need to communicate to upstream, but anyway
[13:40] <lool> we did, it went into landing plan
[13:41] <lool> and then it actually landed
[13:41] <lool> would it be failed, they would see it
[13:41] <lool> not seeing it == in inimage
[13:41] <didrocks> well, seems sergiusens didn't know that qtorganizer5-eds landed or not
[13:41] <lool> he has many ways to check
[13:41] <didrocks> or we need to be clear that no seeing == in image
[13:41] <lool> it had landed friday already when I was chatting with clock-app upstreams and dpm
[13:43] <lool> dpm: is there another eds branch you're waiting on?
[13:44] <lool> dpm: I dont see any waiting for review
[13:44] <lool> or merging
[13:44] <mhr3> sergiusens, could you ack the url-dispatcher branch?
[13:44] <sergiusens> lool, didrocks I wasn't guiding this; it was dpm; I'm just waiting for his ping and didn't get it so thought I'd ask
[13:44] <sergiusens> mhr3, me? oh, I thought it was an fyi for me
[13:45] <dpm> lool, I was only waiting on the package that landed on #94 for clock and calendar. For calendar it seems to fix the issues (the calendar developer had already tested against qtorganizer-eds trunk), but for clock I remember you said it still didn't fix alarms not being saved?
[13:45] <mhr3> sergiusens, well north america has holiday today, so i'm not getting an ack from ted
[13:45] <lool> sergiusens: So what I can say is that friday after we fixed startup of clock-app, we checked whether alarms would work; I pointed out URL handling was incomplete and first thought eds changes were not in but then dpm and I confirmed these were in; however alarm saving didn't work at all in the clock-app
[13:45] <lool> dpm: Yeah; it just didn't work for me, perhaps I'm doing it wrong
[13:45] <lool> dpm: Also URL handling is incomplete
[13:45] <dpm> lool, I think we'd need to pull in renato in this discussion for the EDS part
[13:46] <sergiusens> mhr3, all of america is on holidays, I seem to be the only dumbnuts on :-P
[13:46] <sergiusens> mhr3, I acked
[13:46] <mhr3> sergiusens, oh right, you should be holidaying too... workaholic! :P but thx
[13:47] <dpm> sergiusens, yeah, I hadn't pinged you since even eds landed, we could not merge the calendar branches depending on it, as the calendar upstream merger is still disabled (so nothing to do in terms of reenabling the click package builder), but fginther is looking into it right now. In any case, I think it's safe to reenable the job that creates the calendar click package now
[13:47] <sergiusens> dpm, which calendar branch has the new stuff?
[13:48] <dpm> sergiusens, https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/EDS/+merge/188188
[13:48] <mhr3> lool, didrocks, so url-dispatcher should land in the image only when music-app is migrated to click, otherwise launching music via dash/file-manager won't work, will you take care for that to land in sync?
[13:48] <sergiusens> dpm, I can test as click and provide feedback in the mr
[13:48] <dpm> sergiusens, that'd be great, thanks!
[13:48] <sergiusens> mhr3, music app is in progress....
[13:49] <lool> sergiusens: is south america on national holiday too?
[13:49] <lool> didn't know that
[13:49] <lool> I hope they are not celebrating columbus day though
[13:49] <didrocks> mhr3: if music app is in progress and not going to land today, we should revert, land url-dispatcher and revert
[13:49] <lool> mhr3: I've happroved the url-dispatcher mp and kicked autolanding for it
[13:49] <sergiusens> lool, it is
[13:49] <sergiusens> lool, but the name has changed in argentina
[13:50] <mhr3> didrocks, it is supposed to land later today
[13:50] <didrocks> mhr3: so, it means you won't have your fix until this is in
[13:50] <sergiusens> lool, it's called "Day of american cultural diversity acceptance"
[13:50] <sergiusens> or something like that
[13:51] <lool> dpm: Could you update your needs fixing? https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/EDS/+merge/188188
[13:51] <ogra_> oh, does that mean i'm alone in the team standup today ?
[13:51] <sergiusens> use to be called 'race day' but I think they changed it for it being to racy
[13:51] <lool> dpm: the branch is already top approved, but just to confirm
[13:51] <sergiusens> ogra_, I'm here :-P
[13:51] <lool> sergiusens: acceptance of north americans then?  :-)
[13:51] <ogra_> sergiusens, you are supposed to be off though
[13:51] <sergiusens> lool, no, americans everywhere in the americans means the full continent
[13:52] <sergiusens> 'americas'
[13:52] <dpm> lool, done, my Needs Fixing was related to the tests failing, but they passed now
[13:52] <lool> dpm: yeah I know
[13:52] <lool> dpm: I've kicked ubuntu-calendar-app autolanding now
[13:52] <lool> should be in soon
[13:53] <lool> sergiusens: well I was under the assumption south americans already loved and tolerated each other
[13:53] <lool> sergiusens: so I thought it was just tolerance for the other americans  :-)
[13:53] <dpm> lool, cool, thanks. Have you talked to fginther? I know that he was looking into this as well, just to make sure we're all in sync
[13:53] <sergiusens> lool, lol
[13:54] <fginther> dpm, lool, in sync at the moment
[13:54] <dpm> perfect :)
[13:54]  * lool is speeding up the ci or autolandings we care for before the 15mn mark  :-)
[13:54] <fginther> lool, I would like to better understand the criteria you are using, but we can discuss later if you're busy
[13:55] <lool> fginther: IIUC, this runs every 15 mns and I just want to get them ASAP
[13:55] <fginther> lool, calendar-app is on the disabled list
[13:55] <lool> fginther: it's manual work that I am willing to do in these special days before release but no issue I have with the setup
[13:55] <lool> fginther: the CI tests passed there though?
[13:56] <fginther> lool, right, but there is still a failing test on the mir image testing
[13:56] <lool> fginther: Right, so changes need to get manually in?
[13:57] <fginther> lool, right, so how do we decide what get's merged it?
[13:57] <dpm> sergiusens, looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/music-app/test_fixes_click/+merge/190950 - it seems the tests pass locally but they fail for Jenkins?
[13:57] <lool> fginther: well I guess there are two schools
[13:57] <lool> fginther: there is the school of "you only get to merge things that are striclty improving the tests"
[13:57] <lool> fginther: and there is the school of "you get to merge was is needed for release"
[13:57] <fginther> lool, ok, that helps.
[13:58] <fginther> lool, thx
[13:58] <sergiusens> dpm, fail for jenkins :/
[13:58] <sergiusens> dpm, well jenkins is testing the debs
[13:58] <sergiusens> dpm, I've seen it fail a lot
[13:59] <lool> with music-app?
[13:59] <lool> there were various issues last week and over the WE
[13:59] <sergiusens> dpm, I can't create new events with that calendar, whatever I do I get that the start time can't be after the end time or something like that
[14:01] <sergiusens> dpm, lool wrt to autopilot tests failing on merger, I think it's failing due to the same reasons it was failing on/as click
[14:01] <sergiusens> dpm, lool but changing that can be tricky for those cases; these full tests need to be rethought
[14:02] <sergiusens> let me see what I can do
[14:02] <lool> sergiusens: qmlscene: failed to check version of file '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/music_app/', could not open...
[14:02] <lool> sounds like click related breakage to me
[14:03] <sergiusens> lool, hmmm, balloons !
[14:03] <lool> balloons: ^
[14:03] <ogra_> asac, so i tested all your videos here from the mail, all of them run fine when started from the filemanager (with teh same slight flicker i have for sintel), not a single of them shows up in the thumbnailer
[14:03] <dpm> sergiusens, lool, balloons on holiday today
[14:03] <sergiusens> lool, dpm just saying it was his side of the changes ;-0
[14:04] <ogra_> asac, ah, wait, i take that back, the WebM one doesnt run (though i think that needs to be embedded with video tag in a html fuile anyway)
[14:04] <lool> seb128, didrocks: Dropping ubuntu-sounds from asks / plan
[14:04] <lool> sergiusens: can you fix these or should we patch url-dispatcher to also defer the music-app thing?
[14:05] <sergiusens> lool, I'll fix
[14:05] <seb128> lool, cf #ubuntu-release ... can you replace by ubuntu-touch-sounds? ;-)
[14:05] <lool> seb128: right
[14:06] <rsalveti> lool: thumbnailing and video playback in the browser should be working with 96
[14:07] <rsalveti> asac: tested 96? which video?
[14:07] <lool> rsalveti: playback in browser didn't work for me sadly
[14:07] <lool> haven't tried thumbnailing yet
[14:07] <rsalveti> lool: which video did you try?
[14:07] <lool> rsalveti: a couple from the online ones
[14:07] <lool> the first promoted ones
[14:07] <rsalveti> lool: right, might be a format issue as well
[14:07] <rsalveti> lool: http://html5demos.com/ -> Video
[14:08] <lool> rsalveti: yeah
[14:08] <lool> rsalveti: there was a difference that it played like one frame and audio only
[14:08] <lool> instead of green rectangle
[14:08] <lool> rsalveti: in a HO, will try after that
[14:08] <lool> seb128: thanks
[14:08] <seb128> lool, yw
[14:09] <dpm> sergiusens, hm, re: the calendar changes, this might need the other branches which were blocking on the EDS branch to land for it to work. Let me ping the developers to get them in shape
[14:09] <dpm> sergiusens, I think until then it should probably be best not to release a new click package for calendar
[14:09] <rsalveti> lool: sure
[14:10] <ogra_> asac, i answered your video mail with my test results on maguro
[14:10] <ogra_> 50% success isnt that bad i'd say :)
[14:10] <ogra_> even though the thumbnailer seems to be broken :(
[14:10] <rsalveti> lool: for the others that don't play, please let me know the link of the videos
[14:10] <rsalveti> ogra_: which videos?
[14:10] <rsalveti> worked fine here with the samples I got
[14:10] <ogra_> http://samplemedia.linaro.org/
[14:11] <sergiusens> dpm, sounds good
[14:12] <ogra_> rsalveti, none of them shows in the thumbnails after copying them (sintel does immediately though) ... MPEG2 plays with black screen, WebM doesnt play at all (i'm starting them from the filemanager, i guess that doesnt knwo what to do about WebM)
[14:12] <ogra_> rsalveti, MPEG4 and H264 work fine
[14:13] <ogra_> oh WebM is actually called VP8 in the direectory above ...
[14:14] <rsalveti> ogra_: webm is known it be broken atm
[14:14] <ogra_> right
[14:14] <rsalveti> mp4, h264, avi should just work
[14:15] <rsalveti> and the green issue is just with maguro (thumbnailing)
[14:15] <ogra_> MPEG2 is a bit sad though
[14:15] <ogra_> i'm not talking about the gree issue
[14:15] <ogra_> i dont have any thumbnails at all for these files
[14:15] <ogra_> only for sintel
[14:15] <rsalveti> ogra_: sure, just replying about the issue asac had
[14:16] <rsalveti> ogra_: right, I'll check this today now that we got something to work at least
[14:16] <lool> didrocks: Mir >> I was speaking of the next round of platform-api / qtubuntu changes; not the first platform-api change from friday
[14:16] <ogra_> and yeah, sintel has the green and a broken aspect ratio
[14:16] <rsalveti> that's only with maguro
[14:16] <rsalveti> we have a color conversion issue in there
[14:16] <ogra_> well, thats what im testing on :)
[14:16] <didrocks> lool: oh ok, didn't get you, sorry. But yeah, it won't really fix it. Do you think we should get it now to get better infos then?
[14:16] <ogra_> and i dotn think thats a biggie
[14:16] <lool> didrocks: if you check out the 2 MPs against that bug, they are the same type (if error: return error)
[14:16] <ogra_> rsalveti, the flickering is a bit more worrying
[14:16] <rsalveti> ogra_: yup
[14:17] <ogra_> during playback
[14:17] <rsalveti> ogra_: that's with mir, and not mediaplayer related
[14:17] <rsalveti> ogra_: happens with camera as well
[14:17] <rsalveti> try to open camera and zoom it
[14:17] <ogra_> ah i get a white frame there though
[14:17] <ogra_> that doesnt happen on video playback
[14:18] <rsalveti> right, but you get a flickering as well
[14:18] <ogra_> yeah
[14:18] <rsalveti> hm, my keyboard stopped working after a while on mir as well
[14:18] <rsalveti> probably known issue by now
[14:19] <ogra_> on 96 ?
[14:20]  * ogra_ grumbles 
[14:20] <ogra_> so i get 25sec boot time on mako and 30sec boot time on maguro ...
[14:20] <rsalveti> yeah, same as described by sil2100
[14:20] <kgunn> didrocks: wrt our discussion about branching last week....instead of series #'s could we use codenames ? its a preference i would prefer...e.g. lp:~mir-team/mir/saucy
[14:20] <ogra_> *until* i make the image writable
[14:20]  * ogra_ sighs
[14:21] <ogra_> rsalveti, oh, the thumbnailer picked them up after a reboot
[14:22] <ogra_> and it rightly only picked up the ones it can play
[14:22] <ogra_> thats something at least
[14:25] <sergiusens> lool, fginther can you make ci run again for music app?
[14:25] <sil2100> rsalveti: good to know it happens to others: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/1239639
[14:26] <sil2100> The keyboard guys know about it
[14:26] <rsalveti> sil2100: thanks
[14:27] <lool> sergiusens, fginther: Running
[14:28] <sergiusens> lool, I hope that small fix does it; I just broke my install with debs + clicks
[14:28] <fginther> lool, thanks I was still looking for the MP to run
[14:30] <didrocks> kgunn: codename is fine for me
[14:31] <sergiusens> lool, fginther that was fast
[14:31] <sergiusens> lool, tests passed
[14:32] <sergiusens> sorry, I don't tests debs anymore and oversaw that
[14:32] <lool> sergiusens: passed!
[14:33] <sergiusens> lool, I understand why balloons made that change; it just doesn't mix and match with how it works on jenkins and such
[14:34] <sergiusens> lool, and uri handler as it is works fine with my music click build ;-)
[14:39] <sergiusens> lool, btw, can you prepare the powerd change for music to work correctly?
[14:44] <asac> rsalveti: sentil + the bbb we have selected for testing
[14:45] <rsalveti> asac: right, but which formats
[14:45] <rsalveti> asac: have the link?
[14:45] <rsalveti> otherwise is just guessing
[14:45] <ogra_> asac, seen my mail answer ?
[14:46] <ogra_> rsalveti, still http://samplemedia.linaro.org/ :)
[14:46] <lool> sergiusens: So
[14:46] <lool> sergiusens: we have a recent qtpowerd news
[14:47] <lool> sergiusens: we'll need it for mediaplayer-app too
[14:47] <rsalveti> ogra_: that doesn't help
[14:47] <ogra_> rsalveti, ?
[14:47] <rsalveti> ogra_: I need link to the specific videos that doesnt work :-)
[14:47] <rsalveti> ogra_: we got a bunch of formats in there
[14:47] <ogra_> rsalveti, thats the videos asac and rick use for testing
[14:47] <rsalveti> and all asac is saying is the name of the video
[14:47] <ogra_> oh right
[14:47] <lool> sergiusens: and since ricmm is the only person that can help from Michael's team today, I've just asked him to look at this (this came out of the review of important bugs that jfunk prepared)
[14:47] <ogra_> thats there like 50 times
[14:48] <lool> sergiusens: so we'll take qtpowerd from coreapps PPA, expand it, then move from PPA to archive
[14:48] <lool> ricmm: ^
[14:48] <lool> ricmm: sergiusens is in the final stages of clickifying music-app; the initial plan was to copy the qtpowerd module in music-app
[14:49] <lool> ricmm: but since we will need it in image for mediaplayer-app...
[14:49] <ogra_> rsalveti, http://samplemedia.linaro.org/MPEG2/big_buck_bunny_480p_MPEG2_MP2_25fps_1800K.MPG http://samplemedia.linaro.org/MPEG4/big_buck_bunny_480p_MPEG4_MP3_25fps_1600K.AVI http://samplemedia.linaro.org/H264/big_buck_bunny_480p_H264_AAC_25fps_1800K.MP4 and http://samplemedia.linaro.org/VP8/big_buck_bunny_480p_VP8_VORBIS_25fps_1900K.WebM
[14:49] <ogra_> rsalveti, thats the four listed in asacs mail
[14:49] <rsalveti> ogra_: great, thanks
[14:49] <ogra_> for me MPEG2 and VP8 dont work, the others are fine
[14:50] <ogra_> not sure why asac doesnt manage to get them to work
[14:50] <sergiusens> lool, hmmm
[14:51] <sergiusens> lool, I'll sync with him
[14:51] <sergiusens> lool, who's making that land in the archive?
[14:51] <sergiusens> lool, can you happrove the music app MR so I have an initial working version built?
[14:52] <sergiusens> lool, to be honest, I'm not even sure what qtpowerd does
[14:53] <lool> sergiusens: it takes the suspend lock with powerd
[14:53] <asac> ogra_: they videos pla
[14:53] <asac> y
[14:53] <lool> sergiusens: so that music app keeps playing when screen turns off with idle timer
[14:53] <sergiusens> lool, can we do pros and cons here? would it be easier to ship mediaplayer as click?
[14:53] <lool> sergiusens: see dpm's comment in the mp
[14:53] <asac> thumbnails are a) broken (visual glitches with colourproblems) and b) hard to start from userexperience
[14:53] <lool> sergiusens: dont think it's easier
[14:53] <asac> also the whole animation on the lense seems buggy
[14:53] <sergiusens> lool, so why do we need ricmm then?
[14:54] <ogra_> asac, for b) -> design is this way :)
[14:54] <asac> oha
[14:54] <asac> unlock sim setting discovered
[14:54] <lool> sergiusens: for the mediaplayer-app + qtpowerd work that is needed
[14:54] <asac> i was not asked ... had to go to cellular settings
[14:54] <asac> interesting
[14:55] <sergiusens> lool, well neither him or I can land qpowerd in the archive
[14:56] <lool> sergiusens: he can develop and test it; I can sponsor
[14:56] <lool> sergiusens: I dont feel I have the speed/time to do it myself
[14:57] <rsalveti> asac: the color conversion issue just happens with maguro
[14:57] <rsalveti> works fine with mako
[14:57] <sergiusens> dpm, merged your request
[14:58] <asac> rsalveti: ok so thats a known
[14:58] <asac> and the rest is guess slowness... gotcha
[14:58] <asac> lets hope for goodness from the mir front on that one
[14:58] <ogra_> ++
[14:58] <rsalveti> right, that will help a lot
[14:59] <sergiusens> lool, ok, if someone takes over fixing the tests for filemanager as click I can look
[14:59] <asac> rsalveti: ogra_: so what is getting done on the uevent bombing front? is that bandaided somewhat for now?
[14:59] <lool> sergiusens: look at what?
[14:59] <rsalveti> afaik xnox was cooking a patch for udev
[14:59] <ogra_> asac, xnox is looking into it but has higher prio duties
[14:59] <sergiusens> lool, filemanager tests need to be fixed for click too
[15:00] <ogra_> asac, he is also one of the main ubiquity devs and hogged for desktop fixes
[15:00] <asac> ogra_: noone else can help?
[15:00] <ogra_> asac, he gave me a something to test today which sadly didnt help
[15:00] <ogra_> -a
[15:01] <ogra_> asac, not sure i guess slangasek might, or we could try to convince pitti ... but pitti will not like to add such gross hacks
[15:03] <lool> sergiusens: ack
[15:03] <lool> sergiusens: outside of ballons, who could help with this?
[15:03] <lool> sergiusens: would upstream be able to?
[15:03] <lool> popey: ^ what do you think
[15:07] <lool> sergiusens: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtpowerd/+bug/1239206
[15:07] <popey> sergiusens: lool is that bug 1229571 ?
[15:07] <popey> which is supposed to be fixed already according to t1mp
[15:07] <sergiusens> popey, no,click package testing for filemanager is broken completely
[15:08] <popey> oh, how? where is this reported?
[15:08] <lool> didrocks: so
[15:08] <lool> dpm, didrocks: I need some help for what needs to happen to move qtpowerd from coreapps PPA to archive (landing #213)
[15:08] <lool> dpm, didrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtpowerd/+bug/1239206 explains the plan
[15:09] <lool> dpm, didrocks: This project was originally started by music-app devs
[15:09] <lool> But now is needed for mediaplayer-app
[15:10] <lool> I think we can start moving it to archive and to the other jenkins
[15:10] <lool> Would need a heads up to music-app upstreams, a change in ownership
[15:10] <lool> and various setup changes
[15:12] <sergiusens> lool, it's also hardcoded for music app, so would require music app changes
[15:12] <lool> sergiusens: what do you mean?
[15:12] <lool> sergiusens: oh you mean the music-app string in it?
[15:13] <lool> sergiusens: Yeah I mentioned this to ricmm
[15:13] <lool> it's a minor thing
[15:13] <sergiusens> lool, yeah, that
[15:13] <lool> we could change it to qtpowerd
[15:13] <lool> or make something nice
[15:14] <sergiusens> lool, I have little idea of how this works, I thought we'd create a lock per device
[15:14] <lool> == Building url-dispatcher ==
[15:14] <sergiusens> per app i mean
[15:14] <lool> sergiusens: Yes, but I think the names are just declarative
[15:14] <lool> Hmm I hope at least  :-)
[15:14] <lool> and it's not the same type of lock anyway
[15:15] <lool> I dont know how to cleanly get the app name from a QML module, there's certainly a clean way; or we could pass it through
[15:15] <dpm> lool, sure. What do you need?
[15:15] <lool> anyway, it's polish in any case
[15:15] <lool> dpm: giving a heads up to music-app folks, changing ownership of the component
[15:16] <dpm> lool, ok, cool. The owner is coreapps-drivers. Who should be the new owner?
[15:16] <didrocks> lool: sorry, was backlogging
[15:18] <lool> didrocks: Is ~phablet-team a good owner?
[15:18] <dpm> lool, and the next question: should I set the team you choose as Maintainer or Driver in the project?
[15:19] <didrocks> lool: yeah, it's a nice one
[15:19] <lool> dpm: ^
[15:19] <lool> dpm: ~phablet-team/qtpowerd/trunk?
[15:19] <lool> dpm: I'll update the packaging if you like
[15:20] <thostr_> lool: regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hud/+bug/1239016: we cannot reproduce this at all, seems to work everywhere...
[15:20] <lool> thostr_: Ok; I guess this needs retesting
[15:22] <dpm> lool, ack. Can you create the ~phablet-team/qtpowerd/trunk branch? I don't have permissions in the phablet-team, and I can't change the branch in the LP project until one exists.
[15:22] <lool> dpm: can do
[15:22] <dpm> thanks lool
[15:23] <lool> dpm: done
[15:23] <lool> dpm: I hope this works alright with branch stacking and stuff
[15:23] <lool> Created new stacked branch referring to /+branch-id/836516.
[15:24] <dpm> lool, project branch updated, maintainer set to phablet-team
[15:24] <didrocks> we can reconfigure if needed
[15:25] <dpm> lool, please feel free to change the driver too. By changing the maintainer to phablet-team, I locked myself out of administering the project :) but I think that should be all you need
[15:25] <dpm> https://launchpad.net/qtpowerd
[15:29] <lool> ok
[15:30] <lool> dpm: thanks!
[15:30] <didrocks> lool: so, we need to add that to dailies, right?
[15:34] <lool> didrocks: Yes I was just coming here to ping you about it
[15:34] <lool> didrocks: just reviewed the LP project settings; seems ok now
[15:34] <lool> didrocks: will send a packaging update mp now
[15:35] <sergiusens> lool, wrt to powerd, ricmm is going to take care of that and I'll take care of filemanager
[15:36] <lool> sergiusens: awesome
[15:36] <sergiusens> lool, where does this leave us with swapping music app to it's click counterpart?
[15:36] <sergiusens> lool, do we wait for all this?
[15:36] <lool> sergiusens: I think it doesn't change anything except you want to wait for qtpowerd to be seeded and drop the qtpowerd inclusion hack?
[15:36] <lool> sergiusens: or you could keep it and switch to click, then we update to drop the module?
[15:36] <sergiusens> lool, ack,I'll make the necessary changes
[15:37] <sergiusens> lool, I still need to update the seeds anyways
[15:37] <lool> sergiusens: actually it might be good to proceed with music-app click
[15:37] <lool> in the very worst case we break music-app and can revert
[15:37] <sergiusens> lool, althought the package name would need to be fixed, its' qtpowerd and convention is qtdeclarative5-powerd or something like that
[15:39] <didrocks> lool: ok, keep me posted
[15:40] <lool> sergiusens: qtpowerd is just the source name
[15:40] <lool> sergiusens: binary is qtdeclarative5-qtpowerd0.1
[15:42] <lool> didrocks: Hmm is GPLv3 ok there?
[15:45] <sergiusens> lool, right
[15:45] <sergiusens> we use gplv3 for everything
[15:46] <lool> didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/qtpowerd/qtpowerd-packaging-updates/+merge/190988
[15:46] <lool> sergiusens: but we're copyright holders too
[15:47] <didrocks> lool: I think it would be better to have it LGPL
[15:47] <lool> dpm: ^
[15:48] <lool> dpm: do you think we could convince Victor to relicense and/or give copyright to Canonical?
[15:48] <didrocks> lool: didn't he sign the CLA?
[15:48] <lool> he did
[15:48] <lool> didrocks: So I should change to copyright canonical?
[15:49] <slangasek> asac: I believe the upstart memory leak is still a higher priority than fixing the udev load from uevent spam, especially since the uevent spam is maguro-specific.  If you think otherwise, I can have the team switch gears to work on udev, but currently that's "next" in the queue
[15:49] <didrocks> lool: yes please
[15:49] <didrocks> and the license
[15:51] <didrocks> sil2100: how busy are you? can you try having a look at latest hud and running AP tests again?
[15:51] <ogra_> slangasek, the memory leak is worked yround, the udev side isnt
[15:52] <ogra_> slangasek, the udev side is what breaks maguro atm, not upstart (which just filters these events)
[15:52] <dpm> lool, didrocks, the code headers are already copyrighted to Canonical, the only thing that would need change is debian/copyright. I assume he'll be ok with it, as he already assigned copyright to the code to Canonical
[15:52] <slangasek> ogra_: the memory leak is only worked around *for maguro*.  We still have a memory leak everywhere.
[15:53] <sil2100> didrocks: will do that once my device is free out of autopilot tests!
[15:53] <ogra_> slangasek, right, but not one that kills the device in a short time
[15:53] <lool> didrocks: updated
[15:53] <lool> dpm: done
[15:53] <didrocks> lool: no COPYING?
[15:54] <lool> didrocks: Can add one
[15:54] <didrocks> yep, not mandatory for a so simple source, but better
[15:54] <lool> didrocks: one
[15:54] <lool> *done
[15:54] <lool> in r9
[15:55] <didrocks> lool: I find debian/rules weird, wdyt?
[15:55] <lool> didrocks: can we setup CI/autolanding etc.
[15:55] <lool> didrocks: Yeah I think it does a bit too much
[15:55] <lool> didrocks: probably dont need that much
[15:55] <slangasek> ogra_: but it will kill *all* devices over the kind of uptime one expects from a phone, which is a lot more serious than a maguro-specific bug (IMHO)
[15:55] <lool> didrocks: but nothing there hurts and didnt want to play ball with it
[15:56] <slangasek> but I want to hear from asac which he wants me to prioritize :)
[15:56] <didrocks> lool: well, we won't clean it in the future, maybe it's time, want me to push?
[15:56] <didrocks> lool: basically removing everything but %:
[15:56] <didrocks>     dh $@ --fail-missing
[15:56] <didrocks> (maybe override_dh_auto_configure:
[15:56] <lool> didrocks: Well
[15:56] <didrocks>     qmake
[15:56] <didrocks> )
[15:56] <didrocks> is needed
[15:56] <lool> even this one should work
[15:56] <lool> without
[15:57] <lool> didrocks: let me check
[15:57] <didrocks> lool: oh, you didn't set it in split mode
[15:57] <lool> didrocks: ah the bzr bd thing
[15:57] <sergiusens> lool, didrocks ogra_ ? https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-seeds/music-app--/+merge/190990
[15:57] <didrocks> yep ;)
[15:57] <ogra_> slangasek, well, we have two devices one doesnt work at all for release due to the uevent spam, the other dies after a few days (using my mako since a week without running out of ram here) ... both can be upgraded right after release with fixes ... i prefer to have both working for release
[15:57] <didrocks> sergiusens: +1
[15:57] <slangasek> ogra_: I can't give you both for release.
[15:57] <lool> sergiusens: Can I upload now?
[15:58] <ogra_> slangasek, mako works good enough
[15:58] <lool> didrocks: you staying after the meeting to help me land this?
[15:58] <didrocks> lool: yeah, it works even without the override
[15:58] <ogra_> slangasek, maguro isnt in a releasable state at all atm
[15:58] <lool> didrocks: I'm comparing build flags over two builds right now
[15:58] <didrocks> lool: I planned to leave, but I can stay for 10 minutes
[15:58] <slangasek> ogra_: oh, if you mean "I prefer to have both devices working for release" - yes, we can do that, but only at the expense of not fixing the memory leak for release
[15:58] <sergiusens> lool, yeah, germinate and all
[15:58] <lool> didrocks: would like to test the cu2d/autolanding stuff works there
[15:58] <lool> didrocks: also need archive admin help for new source
[15:59] <didrocks> lool: building works here
[15:59] <ogra_> slangasek, right, the memory leak will still leave me enough room to upgrade the device ... amnd since our release isnt actually a release i thinkit is fine
[16:00] <sergiusens> ogra_, lool didrocks music app as click would likely sync in at :11' ... I'll brb
[16:00] <lool> I'm along in standup?
[16:01] <ogra_> oh
[16:01]  * ogra_ doesnt want lool to be lonely and looks for his headset
[16:01] <didrocks> sil2100: coming?
[16:01] <didrocks> robru: ?
[16:02] <sil2100> Ah, be there in a moment
[16:04] <ogra_> slangasek, oh, btw, tvoss did some changes to the location examples MP, i was waiting for your ack on it (looks good to me)
[16:04] <ogra_> would be nice to get a NACK/ACK so we can land it
[16:09] <lool> fginther: qtpowerd
[16:09] <lool> is new project
[16:09] <slangasek> ogra_: I will look at it when I can, but I'm off today so it'll be a few hours
[16:09] <ogra_> slangasek, k
[16:10] <ogra_> slangasek, enjoy celebrating that guy that got lost and famous for it
[16:10] <ogra_> :)
[16:15] <lool> sergiusens: branch merged, preparing meta
[16:18] <Laney> lool: Could we take https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-seeds/touch-sounds if you're in there anyway?
[16:22] <popey> didrocks: when is the next build going to start?
[16:22] <didrocks> popey: in some hours
[16:22] <fginther> lool, qtpowerd is enabled for upstream merger
[16:22] <popey> didrocks: after your EOD?
[16:22] <didrocks> popey: yeah
[16:22] <popey> ok, thanks
[16:22] <didrocks> popey: email on the way
[16:22] <popey> coolio
[16:23] <didrocks> popey: did you get any luck in pinging any core apps contributors?
[16:23] <popey> yeah, will chase them down
[16:23] <didrocks> thx!
[16:24] <lool> sergiusens: we seem to have r190 of music-app with your changes in r189 and trunk being at r191
[16:24] <lool> sergiusens: so seems good to me
[16:24] <lool> fginther: \o/
[16:24] <lool> fginther: thanks
[16:24] <lool> Laney: sure
[16:25] <Laney> ty
[16:29] <didrocks> lool: seb128 will be around, I told him to just push the button once it's there
[16:29] <seb128> o/ ;-)
[16:29] <lool> didrocks: ok thanks
[16:30] <lool> Laney: merged
[16:30] <Laney> lool: great, cheers
[16:33] <lool> Laney: mind taking a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/ubuntu-seeds/qtpowerd-seeding/+merge/190999 ?
[16:35] <Laney> lool: can't have those apps depend on it?
[16:36] <lool> Laney: music-app will be click, mediaplayer-app not ready
[16:37] <sil2100> Damn, this test run resulted in many failures instead - and I have like 20 webbrowser-app's open at once now, hm
[16:37] <sil2100> I'll downgrade
[16:38] <lool> Laney: so it's more to make sure we dont end up without it on the image
[16:38] <lool> Laney: eventually, it will go away
[16:39] <lool> Laney: well maybe we dont need this right now
[16:39] <lool> sergiusens: are you taking a qtpowerd copy in music-app?
[16:39] <lool> sergiusens: Right I see you do
[16:39] <Laney> eek
[16:39] <lool> Laney: that's actually safer
[16:39] <lool> otherwise we have to keep supporting this secret API forever for old music-app clicks
[16:40] <lool> Laney: so forget it
[16:40] <lool> Laney: we can pull it in when mediaplayer-app needs it
[16:40] <lool> and when it's in the archve music-app can consume the .so from there, but not rely on it being in the image
[16:40] <lool> that way we can just update music-app from unconfined to confined without it
[16:42] <Laney> righto
[16:42] <lool> Laney: rejected my own mp  :-)
[16:46] <lool> Laney, sergiusens: Meta uploaded
[16:46] <Laney> rocking
[16:46] <lool> sergiusens: does one need a livecd-rootfs change to pull new clicks in?
[16:47] <lool> sil2100: can you confirm to me what happens to hud when you've sorted out the webbrowser-app things?
[16:49] <sil2100> lool: I reverted hud and re-running tests to see if it's related
[16:53] <sergiusens> lool, so I downloaded the click app and tested before doing the MR, reason it took a bit
[16:53] <sergiusens> lool, no, not livecd-roofs, it's in click-sync for now
[16:53] <sergiusens> lp:cick-sync
[16:53] <sergiusens> lp:click-sync
[16:54] <lool> ok
[17:06] <lool> sergiusens: uhoh
[17:07] <lool> sergiusens: had forgotten the special whitelisting we need
[17:08] <sergiusens> lool, powerd? well it won't break the tests. That's what I pinged you about; not sure how that hack works
[17:08] <lool> sergiusens: no the issue is wtih running in background
[17:12] <sergiusens> lool, yeah, that's the powerd hack
[17:14] <lool> sergiusens: the app manager hack rather
[17:15] <ogra_> the hack
[17:16] <sergiusens> yeah, the hack
[17:24] <sergiusens> plars, doanac music in next build is click
[17:25] <doanac> sergiusens: thanks. i'll update the test for it
[17:27] <sil2100> lool: ok, so it doesn't seem there's a direct relation between hud and the test failures
[17:28] <lool> sil2100: Ok, so you're pushing hud?
[17:28] <sil2100> lool: of course, testing takes time so I didn't test everything, but I would preliminarily say let's push hud
[17:28] <lool> sil2100: Ok
[17:28] <lool> sil2100: if device remains usable after a boot with an empty /var/crash, I saw do it
[17:30] <lool> doanac: Can you rename developer mode to writable image?
[17:30] <doanac> lool: where at?
[17:30] <lool> doanac: phablet-tools
[17:30] <lool> doanac:   [ Andy Doan ]
[17:30] <lool>   * add developer-mode subcommand to phablet-config This creates a new
[17:30] <lool> sergiusens: is phablet-tools otherwise good to go?
[17:31] <lool> doanac: Sorry for the churn, but we're trying to kill that confusing name
[17:31] <doanac> lool: okay. will do. could have sworn we'd done that already :/
[17:31] <lool> doanac: (app developer vs. platform developer)
[17:31] <lool> doanac: writable-image is probably most neutral
[17:31] <lool> and maps to the flag nicely
[17:32] <sergiusens> @ci lool I'm noticing that my filemanager MR never merged.... https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-filemanager-app/click_improvements/+merge/190425 it's a noop for deb packages
[17:32] <sil2100> lool: published!
[17:33] <doanac> lool: actually - we named it "writeable-image": http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-tools/trunk/revision/201
[17:33] <doanac> its just the commit message that didn't get updated
[17:33] <sergiusens> lool, in the code, it's already renamed, missed the commit message I guess
[17:34] <lool> doanac: oh no
[17:34] <lool> doanac: please
[17:34] <lool> writeable-image versus writable_image
[17:34] <lool> no end of fun
[17:35] <lool> rightful-imagery
[17:35]  * doanac just got an english spelling lesson from a Frenchman !
[17:35] <doanac> lool: i'll fix that.
[17:35] <ogra_> well, we still have the option to use writable^image somewhere at least
[17:36] <popey> awww.. not writable☑ image
[17:36] <popey> needs more unicode
[17:37] <sergiusens> doanac, and here I thought you did that on purpose :-/
[17:38] <sergiusens> fginther, btw, can we get this merged? https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-filemanager-app/click_improvements/+merge/190425 it's a noop for deb packages
[17:39] <lool> sergiusens: launched https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-filemanager-app/click_improvements/+merge/190425
[17:40] <doanac> sergiusens, lool: https://code.launchpad.net/~doanac/phablet-tools/spelling-fix/+merge/191015
[17:40] <doanac> i'm going to go eat my lunch in shame now
[17:41] <lool> doanac: tested + happroved
[17:47] <lool> sergiusens: are you +1 on the latest phablet-tools landing?
[17:47] <sergiusens> lool, I was yes
[17:51] <lool> == Publishing ubuntu-themes ==
[17:51] <lool> (misc stack)
[18:49] <lool> == Publishing phablet-tools ==
[19:10] <jibel> i've 2 more bugs that could be candidates for a fix for 13.10 if it is not too late bug 1239815 is a broken language and bug 1239811 which is very easy to reproduce
[19:18] <kgunn> lool: do you have a minute for me to bother you about debian changelog on mir ? (i'd bother didrocks but he's gone)
[19:19] <lool> kgunn: sure
[19:20] <kgunn> lool: thanks...so kdub landed the performance improvement, and we need to bump server api again...so i was going thru motions and
[19:20] <lool> oh no
[19:20] <kgunn> lool: i noticed changelog was kinda different
[19:21] <kgunn> lool: it was marked saucy instead of "unreleased"
[19:21] <lool> kgunn: So I think it doesn't matter too much
[19:21] <lool> kgunn: cu2d will prepare an updated changelog entry on its own
[19:21] <lool> kgunn: I'll tell you if it causes problems, but I /think/ it' sok
[19:22] <kgunn> lool: so just to confirm...i can leave it as "unreleased"
[19:22] <lool> Yes, but CAPS
[19:22] <lool> UNRELEASED
[19:22] <lool> some tools make a difference there, so wouldn't want to try unreleased in small letters
[19:22] <kgunn> lool: oh yes...it is...i used dch -i...which does that formatting for me
[19:22] <kgunn> yeah..its in all CAPS
[19:23] <kgunn> ok...i'm going to keep going....if it breaks something or makes didrocks mad, i'm sure i'll know :)
[19:41] <kgunn> fginther: ping
[19:41] <fginther> kgunn, pong
[19:41] <kgunn> fginther: hey here's one that seems unfamiliar to me... https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/mir-team-mir-development-branch-saucy-amd64-ci/160/console
[19:42] <kgunn> fginther: maybe it just needs a re-run....but kinda weird pbuilder failing
[19:43] <fginther> kgunn, yes it needs to be re-ran... This happens whenever an apt-get update occurs in the middle of an archive update.
[19:43] <fginther> kgunn, we actually have a workaround for this, but it just wasn't deployed to this slave, will get that fixed
[19:45] <kgunn> fginther: np...it was just unfamiliar to me
[19:46] <lool> == Publishing url-dispatcher (misc stack) ==
[20:03] <lool> kgunn: Are the ABI changes libmirserver only or libmirclient too?
[20:07] <kgunn> just libmirserver lool
[20:59] <sergiusens> lool, can you trigger a ci for https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix_ap/+merge/191051 ?
[20:59] <sergiusens> want to see if it works on jenkins
[20:59] <rsalveti> lool: got some changes for the media stack again, improving texture_id handling but more important is the extra caps in mirsink
[21:00] <rsalveti> so we can render videos that support I420
[21:00] <rsalveti> hybris, android, gst-plugins-bad1.0
[21:00] <rsalveti> adding to the landing...
[21:01] <lool> sergiusens: building
[21:01] <sergiusens> lool, thanks
[21:02] <lool> rsalveti: Ok, seems this doens't hit desktop images
[21:02] <rsalveti> lool: nops
[21:13] <sergiusens> lool, seems to be a problem there.... fginther still around?
[21:13] <fginther> sergiusens, hey
[21:14] <fginther> sergiusens, https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix_ap/+merge/191051 ?
[21:14] <sergiusens> fginther, hey, can you familiarize yourself with this error? http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests/1010/console ?
[21:14] <sergiusens> yeah
[21:14] <sergiusens> seems the deb wasn't installed?
[21:14] <fginther> sergiusens, "Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[21:14] <fginther> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[21:14] <fginther> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[21:14] <fginther> or been moved out of Incoming."
[21:15] <fginther> ubuntu-filemanager-app : Depends: qtdeclarative5-nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel but it is not installable
[21:15] <sergiusens> fginther, oh, that still needs the coreapps ppa
[21:16] <fginther> sergiusens, that can be fixed ....
[21:16] <sergiusens> fginther, this one https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily/+packages?field.name_filter=file&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=saucy
[21:17] <sergiusens> fginther, so filemanager and terminal will always need the PPA for deb building, which is fine; for click it's embedded (that's the plugins.json magic in the code)
[21:20] <fginther> sergiusens, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-filemanager-app-ci/48/ with the ppa
[21:20] <lool> == Publishing unity-mir (unity8 stack) ==
[21:24] <sergiusens> sweet
[21:54] <sergiusens> lool, look at this: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix_ap/+merge/191051
[21:54] <sergiusens> lool, might be able to get rid of the PPA today!
[21:54] <lool> sergiusens: :-)
[21:54] <sergiusens> lool, do I need to strip out the powerd plugin now?
[21:54] <sergiusens> from music app?
[21:56] <lool> sergiusens: I can only approve it though, not happrove it
[21:56] <lool> sergiusens: No keep it there, but you can point at archive if you like
[21:57] <sergiusens> lool, any reason to do so?
[21:57] <lool> sergiusens: the reason to keep it is so that we can remove it from image and keep running old unconfined music-app with new images
[21:57] <sergiusens> popey or fginther  can you happrove https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix_ap/+merge/191051
[21:57] <sergiusens> ?
[21:57] <lool> removing it is breaking an internal ABI that one click uses
[21:58] <fginther> sergiusens, done
[21:58] <sergiusens> lool, so that means it's not going to be seeded?
[21:58] <sergiusens> fginther, ty!
[22:00] <sergiusens> lool, in any case, I'll point to the new one and see how it works
[22:00] <lool> sergiusens: Yes, I was about to test that
[22:00] <lool> sergiusens: No, I almost seeded qtpowerd, but after discussion with Laney I opted not to
[22:00] <lool> sergiusens: for that very rason
[22:01] <lool> sergiusens: but qtpowerd will be pulled by mediaplayer-app
[22:01] <lool> and copied into music-app
[22:01] <sergiusens> lool, ok,so when mediaplayer goes click it would recourse to the same path
[22:01] <sergiusens> which is basically next week ;-0
[22:02] <lool> eh
[22:02] <lool> sergiusens: so removing the qtpowerd plugin from music-app works with binaries from ricmm
[22:03] <sergiusens> lool, what's the binary name for the package?
[22:03] <lool> sergiusens: qtdeclarative5-qtpowerd0.1
[22:04] <sergiusens> hmmm...
[22:04] <lool> The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: qtdeclarative5-qtgrilo0.1
[22:04] <lool> so that should go away in next image
[22:04] <lool> with click
[22:04] <sergiusens> yup
[22:04] <sergiusens> lool, I'm doing autoremove to make it easier to track breakage
[22:07] <sergiusens> lool, https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/music-app/powersource/+merge/191068
[22:08] <lool> sergiusens: I've tried copying the binary in music-app click dir and it worked fine
[22:09] <lool> sergiusens: I'm not pushing this one as qtpowerd still needs transitioning to saucy
[22:09] <lool> in fact removing the happrove
[22:09] <sergiusens> lool, this worked fine with the way I pull it in
[22:10] <sergiusens> lool, I use launchpad
[22:11] <lool>   Unable to connect to 10.97.0.6:http:
[22:11] <lool> bah
[22:11] <lool> sergiusens: ah it's in now
[22:12] <sergiusens> nice
[22:24] <sergiusens> fginther, lool can you for the ci to run for filemanager if it isn't already?
[22:25] <fginther> sergiusens, same MP as before?
[22:25] <lool> sergiusens: done
[22:25] <lool> fginther: yep, running
[22:26] <sergiusens> fginther, yeah
[22:26] <sergiusens> ack, thanks
[22:27] <lool> fginther: any idea on: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro/2437/console
[22:28] <lool>   Unable to connect to 10.97.0.6:http:
[22:28] <lool> 22:11:20.780 INFO __init__:407 - dbus.DBusException while attempting to get PID for com.canonical.Friends.Dispatcher: DBusException("Could not get PID of name 'com.canonical.Friends.Dispatcher': no such name",)
[22:31] <fginther> lool, the "Unable to connect to 10.97.0.6" messages are annoying, but a problem. It just means the local jenkins archive isn't being used when reverting packages back to the archive versions
[22:31] <lool> oh mediaplayer-app-ci never passed in last weeks
[22:31] <lool> fginther: yeah, found some actual test failures
[22:31] <lool> not quite sure why the tests pass on image testing, but neveron ci
[22:31] <lool> fginther: the history of mediaplayer-app-ci is full of failures for weeks
[22:32] <lool> same for autolanding
[22:33] <fginther> lool, I remember a note on IRC about that having known test failures in trunk I belive.
[22:33] <lool> fginther: Ok
[22:33] <lool> I'm fried
[22:33] <fginther> lool, can't say why they pass on image testing either. Will look into once I get the test runner updates ready
[22:34] <lool> fginther: thanks
[22:34] <lool> I think I'll call it a day and kick an image
[22:34] <fginther> lool, good iea
[22:34] <fginther> idea
[22:34] <lool> sergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix_ap/+merge/191051 failed
[22:35] <sergiusens> fginther, lool yeah, seems there's still flaky tests in there
[22:36] <sergiusens> lool, from the video seems like an incorrect coordinate is passed http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests/1015/artifact/ubuntu_filemanager_app.tests.test_filemanager.TestFolderListPage.test_create_directory%20%28with%20mouse%29.ogv
[22:37] <sergiusens> lool, fginther can we retrigger, I can look into that in the meantime; but it seems random as all the tests start out the same
[22:39] <lool> sergiusens: I've retriggered it, but not sure it works without top approve
[22:39] <sergiusens> lool, it won't... needs fginther
[22:40] <fginther> lool, sergiusens done
[22:40] <sergiusens> fginther, thanks, so for my info, the filemanager tests are flaky, right?
[22:42] <fginther> sergiusens, not to my knowledge, but not much history to go one
[22:42] <fginther> I'll build trunk for a compare
[22:42] <sergiusens> fginther, from what I'm looking at, the tests weren't running before
[22:42] <sergiusens> fginther, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-filemanager-app-autolanding/8/console
[22:42] <fginther> http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-filemanager-app-ci/49/
[22:43] <fginther> sergiusens, right, they're kinda new
[22:43] <sergiusens> fginther, ok,new == flaky :-)
[22:43] <sergiusens> fginther, they are sort of in a very needs fixing state tbh
[22:45] <fginther> passed?
[22:46] <fginther> sergiusens, merged
[22:46] <sergiusens> fginther, thanks!
[22:46]  * fginther -> food/family
[22:47] <sergiusens> lool, so 3 changes and no PPA
[22:47] <sergiusens> lool, sound reasonable?
[22:49] <lool> sergiusens: sorry was doing ESTA
[22:49] <lool> sergiusens: which changes?
[22:49] <sergiusens> lool, https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/livecd-rootfs/ppa--/+merge/191070 https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-seeds/filemanager--/+merge/191072
[22:49] <lool> sergiusens: removal in meta?
[22:50] <lool> sergiusens: which one is the third one?  the mp above?
[22:50] <sergiusens> lool, this one https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/click-sync/filemanager/+merge/191074
[22:51] <lool> sergiusens: did you land the click in the click_list already?
[22:51] <sergiusens> lool, it's that 3rd MR
[22:51] <lool> sergiusens: what's the staged thing?
[22:51] <sergiusens> lool, things that aren't in yet... sorry, just thought I'd clean up
[22:53] <lool> sergiusens: approved this last one
[22:53] <lool> sergiusens: but hmm maybe I shoulnd't have?
[22:53] <lool> I guess you might have been waiting for a build
[22:54] <sergiusens> lool, you mean this http://10.97.0.26:8080/view/click/job/filemanager-app-click/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/com.ubuntu.filemanager_0.1.1.79_armhf.click ?
[22:55] <lool> sergiusens: are the debian-cd changes auto deployed?
[22:55] <lool> I doubt they are ci-ed
[22:55] <sergiusens> lool, no they aren't manual merge
[22:55] <sergiusens> lool, I can merge the lp:click-sync one
[22:56] <lool> I can too I think
[22:56] <sergiusens> lool, if you are on cdimage team yes
[22:56] <sergiusens> as soon as it's merge it will be synced into click_list at xx:11
[22:56] <lool> sergiusens: pushed
[22:56] <sergiusens> lool, that's the cron on snakefruit
[22:56] <sergiusens> lool, livecd-rootfs requires a package push though
[22:57] <lool> let's start with the meta though
[22:57] <lool> pushed
[22:57] <lool> updating
[22:58] <sergiusens> lool, great
[22:59] <lool> sergiusens: if you're twiddling thumb and you want to test that mediaplayer-app change, that would be cool
[22:59] <lool> have been sitting on this one before going to bed
[23:02] <sergiusens> lool, which one is it?
[23:02] <sergiusens> the MR
[23:03] <sergiusens> I can say that just 4 minutes ago I am twiddling thumbs :-P
[23:03] <lool> sergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/mediaplayer-app/qtpowerd-keep-screen-on/+merge/191061
[23:07] <lool> sergiusens: you need qtpowerd from PPA for it to work though
[23:07] <sergiusens> oh,ack
[23:07] <lool> which I'll push manually if things work for you
[23:11] <sergiusens> lool, might need a longer video than sintel,one sec
[23:12] <lool> eh
[23:12] <lool> sergiusens: you can see the lock with powerd-cli list
[23:12] <sergiusens> lool, right
[23:12] <lool> but it's good if you actually test for longer cause I haven't
[23:14] <sergiusens> lool, so Name: display-request, Owner: internal, State: 1 is what I see
[23:14] <sergiusens> lool, but I also the that after closing the mediaplayer
[23:15] <lool> sergiusens: that's not the one
[23:16] <lool> sergiusens: you should see a -backgrund one
[23:16] <lool> sergiusens: but only while actually playing
[23:16] <lool> sergiusens: make sure you've killed mediaplayer-app too
[23:16] <lool> this meta build is long
[23:16] <sergiusens> lool, yeah,it's not working for me then
[23:16] <sergiusens> lool, let me monitor the bus
[23:17] <lool> sergiusens: you have qtpowerd from PPA?
[23:17] <lool> weird
[23:17] <lool> sergiusens: maybe look at .cache/upstart/application-legacy-mediaplayer-app-.log for hints?
[23:18] <sergiusens> lool, yeah, from the ppa
[23:18] <lool> sergiusens: maybe make sure with ps that you kill mediaplayer for real
[23:20] <sergiusens> lool, so I do get this over the bus http://paste.ubuntu.com/6238278/
[23:20] <lool> uploaded ubuntu-touch-meta_1.091_source.changes
[23:21] <lool> sergiusens: it's not exactly it
[23:21] <lool> sergiusens: you should see a requestDisplayState
[23:21] <lool> sergiusens: but the bus is too polluted with kernel events
[23:21] <lool> sergiusens: I can't understand why it wouldn't work for you
[23:22] <lool> sergiusens: could you upload /var/log/upstart/powerd.log and .cache/upstart/application-legacy-mediaplayer-app-.log?
[23:22] <sergiusens> lool, yeah,media player logs show nothing
[23:22] <lool> weirder and weirder
[23:23] <sergiusens> lool, hmmmm.dbus name lost or unable to acquire dbus name, is another copy of powerd running?
[23:23] <sergiusens> g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting.
[23:23] <lool> sergiusens: maybe reboot
[23:23] <sergiusens> lool, let me flash fresh, my maguro can be busted
[23:23] <sergiusens> lool, ok, but I did that before starting
[23:23] <lool> not sure we tested on maguro either
[23:23] <lool> I tested on mako
[23:23] <lool> maybe powerd is busted on maguro
[23:24] <sergiusens> lool, also, unpolutted bus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6238287/
[23:24]  * sergiusens flashes
[23:24] <lool> sergiusens: Yeah; that looks clean, but it's missing the expected calls
[23:24] <lool> livecd-rootfs uploaded
[23:25] <sergiusens> lool, can you test with that monitor line?
[23:25] <sergiusens> flashing maguro takes 15'
[23:26] <lool> sergiusens: here powerd-cli list works, but the dbus traffic is quiet
[23:26] <lool> sergiusens: I only see similar startup as yours
[23:26] <lool> traffic when unlocking
[23:27] <lool> but no requests when pausing / playing
[23:27] <lool> albeit I see:
[23:27] <lool>   Name: 6910-background, Owner: :1.138, State: 1, Flags: 00000000
[23:27] <lool> come and go
[23:29] <lool> sergiusens: I wonder whether dbus snooping is prevented by AA
[23:31] <sergiusens> lool, not if unconfined
[23:31] <sergiusens> lool, media player isn't confined
[23:36] <lool> sergiusens: ok, only signals are visiuble by default
[23:37] <sergiusens> lool, right, I think I saw pitti make a comment wrt
[23:41] <lool> I see powerd-cli list now
[23:41] <lool> need to reboot
[23:41] <lool> sergiusens: I added the snippet from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingDBus
[23:41] <lool> then did dbus-monitor --system 'interface=com.canonical.powerd' type=method_call
[23:42] <lool> and saw powerd-cli list
[23:42] <lool> over there
[23:42] <lool> now rebooting to see mediaplayer-app I hope
[23:44] <sergiusens> lool, ack, just finished flashing + installing
[23:44] <sergiusens> lool, I installed this one too though https://code.launchpad.net/~robertcarr/platform-api/fix-event-translation/+merge/191059
[23:44] <sergiusens> to see if I get rid of the double events
[23:46] <lool> sergiusens: ah
[23:46] <lool> it needs to be last
[23:47] <sergiusens> lool, signal sender=:1.3 -> dest=(null destination) serial=38 path=/com/canonical/powerd; interface=com.canonical.powerd; member=DisplayPowerStateChange
[23:47] <sergiusens> lool, what needs to be last?
[23:47] <lool> the config file
[23:48] <sergiusens> lool, I lost you..
[23:48] <lool> sergiusens: it needs to be named zz_something
[23:48] <sergiusens> but my head is feverish
[23:49] <lool> sergiusens: ah get some rest
[23:49] <lool> sergiusens: anyway we shouldnt need this
[23:49] <lool> it just worked for ricmm and for me, albeit with different binaries
[23:52] <sergiusens> fair enough
[23:52] <lool> I give up on the monitor stuff
[23:52] <lool> sergiusens: if it doesn't work, I guess we should add some deubg around qtpowerd and/or mediaplayer
[23:53] <sergiusens> lool, change has to go in here: /etc/dbus-1/system.conf
[23:53] <sergiusens> lool, one sec, I'm getting the latest and greatest to test
[23:55] <lool> sergiusens: I had put it into system.d/zz_foo.conf
[23:59] <rsalveti> lool: just pushed gst-plugins-bad as well, in case you didn't yet trigger a new image