[00:30] <Ponch0> Hey guys anyone here i've been beggin the regulars for help all day with the setup of my internet
[00:30] <Ponch0> none of my internet works on my laptop
[00:30] <Ponch0> and i'm desperate like a monkey for a banana
[04:15] <Ponch0> um how come when I try to install a drive I get "can't read private key" error?
[04:15] <Ponch0> driver
[04:16] <darkxst> Ponch0, what driver?
[04:16] <Ponch0> ethernet driver, wifi and wired, neither work after fresh install, and new hard drive
[04:16] <darkxst> is it from a PPA?
[04:16] <Ponch0> nope. from backports
[04:17] <Ponch0> network drivers rather.
[04:17] <darkxst> hmm the keys for backports are built in
[04:18] <Ponch0> I transfered the file from another computer with a usb
[04:18] <Ponch0> does it have something to do with the fact that I have Home as encrypted? I did do the install as root tho.
[04:19] <darkxst> oh possibly
[04:20] <Ponch0> damn, is there any way around this?
[04:20] <darkxst> no idea, I have never really played with encypted partitions
[04:22] <Ponch0> haha ok i'll reinstall without it
[04:22] <darkxst> but usb stick should not be encryted so its kind of odd
[04:24] <Ponch0> the weird thing is the only thing i find on this error are unanswered posts or some obscure forums
[04:27] <darkxst> Ponch0, you may get more help on one of the #ubuntu chanels
[04:28] <Ponch0> thanks
[04:32] <Ponch0> hey darkxst: if I wanted the newest release of ubuntu-gnome iso where would I get it?
[04:32] <Ponch0> with 13.10 3.8
[04:33] <darkxst> just grab the daily http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/
[04:34] <Ponch0> awesome thank you!
[04:45] <Ponch0> what's odd is that during installation, my wifi works fine i can connect and update everything.
[05:04] <darkxst> Ponch0, if wifi works during installation, it should also work after!
[05:04] <Ponch0> exactly!
[05:05] <Ponch0> I'm doing an install now, see if anything changes.
[05:05] <Ponch0> without encrypt home folder
[05:24] <Ponch0> nope no luck with the internet, still doesn't work
[05:43] <Ponch0> i just found something in logs apparmor="DENIED"
[08:10] <topyli> hm. where's the notification area? things keep changing! i'm going back to twm! :-)
[08:34] <darkxst> topyli, <super>+M
[08:35] <topyli> oh! thanks darkxst :)
[08:36] <darkxst> or just swipe down with mouse ;)
[08:36] <darkxst> i.e hit bottom edge of screen with a bit of screen
[08:36] <darkxst> speed even
[08:36] <topyli> so it seems. i've been too slow apparently :)
[15:51] <bjsnider> darkxst, any idea what the process would be to run a wayland session just for testing and whatnot? i have all 3 ppas
[17:10] <Ponch0> hey guys is there a way to remove gnome network manager without removing gnome desktop?
[17:13] <bjsnider> why no empathy 3.10 in any of the ppas?
[17:19] <topyli> Ponch0: no, but removing gnome-desktop is not a big deal. gnome-desktop is just a metapackage that contains no software in itself
[17:20] <topyli> when you upgrade the system from say 13.04 to 13.10, it's good to have those metapackages in place however. it increases your chances of having a sane upgrade :)
[17:22] <Ponch0> oh ok, but does that mean that i will have unity desktop if it gets removed?
[17:23] <topyli> no. if you're running gnome, you've probably broken unity for good :)
[17:23] <Ponch0> it's a fresh install of ubuntu-gnome 13.10, so I never had it i guess?
[17:23] <topyli> all those packages like ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-gnome-desktop, gnome-desktop etc. all contain zero software in themselves. they're just aides that help you easily install a bunch of other packages
[17:24] <Ponch0> ah ok thank you topyli
[17:24] <topyli> cheers
[17:25] <Ponch0> topyli, one last question, I'm using wicd, how can I get the icon in the top gnome panel?
[17:25] <Ponch0> i found somoething about it in bazaar.launchpad but I have no idea how to use that
[17:25] <Ponch0> https://launchpad.net/wicd
[17:26] <Ponch0> rather this one: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~wicd-devel/wicd/experimental/revision/853
[17:27] <topyli> the topicons extension comes to mind, from extensions.gnome.org
[17:28] <Ponch0> awesome thanks so much once more.
[17:28] <topyli> it moves "legacy tray icons" to the top panel. icons like wicd and skype and what have you
[17:28] <Ponch0> haha already works, your awesome thank you!
[17:29] <topyli> :)
[17:31] <topyli> i broke poncho's network :(
[17:31] <topyli> :)
[21:32] <darkxst> bjsnider, that is a ricotz question!
[21:33] <bjsnider> darkxst, i'm getting it working here and then i will submit it for acceptance in the ppa
[21:33] <bjsnider> 3.8 just doesn't work with gnome 3.10 obviously
[21:33] <bjsnider> unusable
[21:36] <darkxst> bjsnider, it might need an updated clutter, which we can upload to the ppa, due to many rdepends
[21:36] <bjsnider> i haven't got that far yet
[22:25] <phillw> darkxst: is there anything urgent needed for notifications, or bringing people up to speed on generic bugs that I can help you with?
[23:48] <darkxst> phillw, I havent had time to really track things over the last few days, so not sure where we are at with generic bugs
[23:52] <phillw> darkxst: afaik, we still all have https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220165
[23:53] <phillw> it is hopefully on the mend. It will require a complete re-spin and re-test.
[23:56] <phillw> darkxst: Ali is still unwell. lubuntu is heading for rrelease (as you are); do feel free to poke me in the ribs and I will help out where I can.
[23:59] <phillw> the major push will be when https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220165 gets released. As a previous release manager, provided you can show it will sort out the side by side bug for ubuntu-gnome the release team will accept previous results to allow a full release :)