[00:49] <marlonbrando78> Can anyone help with a sound issue i am having
[05:26] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:29] <superfly> morning Kilos 
[05:29] <superfly> yawn
[05:29] <superfly> need more sleep
[05:29] <Kilos> ai!
[05:29] <Kilos> you and family well superfly ?
[05:31] <superfly> yup. we're going to visit my boet in George this weekend
[05:31] <Kilos> great give him my regards please
[05:31] <superfly> it's just been a long weekend
[05:31] <superfly> will do
[05:32] <Kilos> you are supposed to rest weekends
[05:32] <superfly> heh. I rest at work
[05:32] <Kilos> haha
[05:33] <superfly> Kilos: how are your girls? I haven't heard you mention anything from them in a while
[05:34] <Kilos> they are ok ty superfly debs suffering with that ankylosing spondilitus and had to stop work
[05:34] <superfly> Eish
[05:35] <Kilos> luckily govt pays her and pays tara to look after her
[05:35] <superfly> can't she get a government grant? Australia is also quite socialist like the UK, isn't it?
[05:35] <superfly> ah
[05:35] <superfly> awesome
[05:35] <Kilos> she has times when it flares up that she can get up unaided and gone cripple in one leg
[05:36] <superfly> :-(
[05:36] <Kilos> otherwise life goes on
[05:36] <Kilos> yeah sad
[05:38] <superfly> I am blessed. I might have asthma and feel old from time to time but at least I'm fit for work and my life is not negatively affected by it.
[05:38] <Kilos> yeah one doesnt see how you are blessed till you look around hey
[05:39] <superfly> well, I'm here. time to trudge up to the office
[05:39] <superfly> later Kilos 
[05:39] <Kilos> have a good day
[05:50] <nuvolari> o/ mornings oom Kilos 
[05:50] <Kilos> lo nuvolari mazal 
[05:50] <nuvolari> lo mazal 
[05:50] <mazal> More oom
[05:50] <nuvolari> hoe gaan dit oom Kilos ?
[05:50] <Kilos> nog n week nê
[05:50] <mazal> Morning nuvolari 
[05:50] <nuvolari> hello JoTraGo 
[05:51] <Kilos> goed dankie nuvolari en jy?
[05:51] <nuvolari> ja oom, ek sien kans daarvoor
[05:51] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom
[05:51] <Kilos> yo JoTraGo 
[05:51] <Kilos> van jy darem op met die werk?
[05:51] <Kilos> het jy hulp gekry met daai ding?
[05:53] <nuvolari> Kilos: nee oom, ek't nie hulp gekry nie, maar ek het so bietjie gevorder 
[05:53] <nuvolari> spook vandag voort
[05:54] <Kilos> hou aan jy sal dit uitwerk
[05:54] <Kilos> skryf neer wat jy doen vir die record
[05:56] <Trixar_za> Le sigh
[05:57] <Trixar_za> Don't you just love it when people intentionally break something with the set goal of replacing it with something 'better', but then that something better gets stuck in developmental hell and your stuck with a half-working solution?
[05:57] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[05:57] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[05:58] <Kilos> who broke what now?
[06:00] <Trixar_za> The Qt devs with QtWebkit. They replaced phonon with QtMultiMedia, which is part of qt-mobility, but because of some support issues and coders disappearing, it only half works. This means that QtWebkit only works partially for HTML5
[06:01] <Trixar_za> Supposably, it's done better in PyQt than PySide, so I'm giving the prior a chance
[06:01] <Kilos> whew
[06:02] <Trixar_za> It's also just a windows issue, I think Linux and MacOs still use phonon
[06:05] <Kilos> so can you fix it Trixar_za ?
[06:05] <Kilos> for yourself anyway
[06:05] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[06:06] <Trixar_za> Maybe, but it may require two recompiles - first Qt without QtWebkit and then Qt with QtWebkit going off the one blog I read... and then it's down to having the right codecs on the target systems
[06:06] <Kilos> ai!
[06:09] <nuvolari> oh hi Trixar_za 
[06:09] <nuvolari> lol, oom Kilos, hierdie is soos 'n magic black box, 'n mens gee input, skommel dit rond, gooi uit en kyk wat die result is
[06:10] <Kilos> haha
[06:10] <nuvolari> wel, dit is hoe ek dit sien... nog nie 'n reproducable recipe gekry nie :P
[06:18] <kbmonkey> hello
[06:18] <Kilos> ohi kbmonkey 
[06:18] <Kilos> nice to see you here onna weekday
[06:20] <kbmonkey> yes it is a party
[06:20] <Kilos> haha
[06:21] <nuvolari> o/ hello's kbmonkey 
[06:22] <kbmonkey> hello nuvolari 
[06:22] <kbmonkey> \0/
[06:37] <Symmetria> sup
[06:37] <Kilos> hi Symmetria 
[06:38] <Symmetria> heh tdk recons they gonna have 20TB disks out by 2020
[06:38] <Kilos> wow
[06:38] <Symmetria> seagate already demonstrated that they can do a 6 or 8 terabyte drive right now but its not yet commercially viable
[06:38] <Symmetria> (thats 20TB 2.5" drive, they recon they can do a 60TB 3.5" drive)
[06:39] <Kilos> normal drive or ssd?
[06:40] <Symmetria> they are HAMR drives, which is kinda like, a normal drive in terms of how it reads but they changed how it writes
[06:40] <Symmetria> HAMR = heat assisted magnetic recording
[06:41] <Kilos> oh but still moving platters
[06:41] <Symmetria> basically allows them to record data using a combination of magnetics and lasers on 12.7nm segments 
[06:41] <Symmetria> yeah, though will be interesting to see how ssd tech develops
[06:41] <Kilos> where will it end
[06:41] <Kilos> tech advancing too fast
[06:42] <Symmetria> people been talking about 3D holographic devices for *years* but nothing has ever really come of that
[06:43]  * Symmetria is trying to read up about dnssec
[06:43] <Symmetria> never read a paper on it and know less than nothing about it
[06:46] <Kilos> life is a permanent learning curve
[06:48] <kbmonkey> how goes it Kilos 
[06:48] <kbmonkey> oh hai maiatoday 
[06:48] <kbmonkey> and hello Symmetria 
[06:48] <Kilos> good ty kbmonkey and you?
[06:48] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[06:48] <Kilos> put router timeouts on hold
[06:49] <kbmonkey> you know Kilos, ever had a Monday which felt better than the weekend? 
[06:49] <Kilos> lol thats good
[06:50] <kbmonkey> well I have not. lol.
[06:50] <Kilos> not even today?
[06:50] <Kilos> dont you like parties
[06:51] <maiatoday> hi kbmonkey Kilos 
[06:55] <kbmonkey> what parties Kilos ? tell me I am curious ... *)
[06:55] <Kilos> kbmonkey> yes it is a party
[06:56] <kbmonkey> oh yes, Monday parties. sorry I thought there was another party happening, hehe.
[06:56] <Kilos> hehe
[06:56] <kbmonkey> preparing for morning meetings, catch you later my friends
[06:57] <Kilos> enjoy
[06:57] <Squirm> morning
[06:57] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:57] <Kilos> hows you today?
[06:58] <Squirm> tired
[06:58] <Squirm> but had a fairly decent weekend
[06:58] <Kilos> oh so nothing new then
[06:58] <Squirm> yourself?
[06:58] <Symmetria> *HRM*
[06:58] <Symmetria> dnssec is odd
[06:58] <Kilos> im good ty
[06:59] <Kilos> trying to understand whay that bot wont auto identify with freenode
[06:59] <Kilos> so it can be masked
[07:02] <Kilos> Maaz, ibid channel
[07:02] <Maaz> irc://autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org
[07:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peeps
[07:25] <kbmonkey> morning ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:26] <kbmonkey> hello zeref 
[07:26] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:26] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[07:28] <Symmetria> *sigh*
[07:29] <Symmetria> MTN is so screwed up
[07:29] <Symmetria> I've been trying for a week to get someone at head office on the phone 
[07:36] <Kilos> thats why most of us went to 8ta
[07:37] <Symmetria> lol kilos, the funny thing is, Im not even trying to get support outta them, Im trying to get through to their *executive* for things that have serious impact on their own business
[07:37] <Symmetria> and I cant even get through to the head office reception
[07:37] <Symmetria> ;p
[07:38] <Kilos> find their ceo and tweet him
[07:38] <Kilos> most of them peeps tweet
[07:38] <Kilos> thats how i got voda and 8ta help here
[07:39] <Kilos> or email the ceo
[07:40] <Symmetria> lol Im gonna start tweeting at their CTO just now ;p
[07:40] <Kilos> hehe
[07:41] <Kilos> thats the only good thing i find about twitter
[07:41] <Kilos> they can hide and have to answer otherwise other peeps see they are slack
[07:42] <kbmonkey> you tweet kilos? 
[07:42] <Kilos> sometimes
[07:43] <kbmonkey> you are more tech savvy than I am!
[07:43] <Kilos> sharpeys and i do the ubuntuza tweet
[07:43] <Kilos> no man its horrible
[07:43] <kbmonkey> lol, I agree
[07:43] <kbmonkey> ;)
[07:43] <Kilos> the pro made me do it or said i wont be welcome here anymore
[07:43] <kbmonkey> very good of you though, very good
[07:44] <Kilos> help a whip over me
[07:44] <kbmonkey> pah, that was an empty threat man ;)
[07:44] <Kilos> haha
[07:44] <kbmonkey> it was a cheap chirp, if I may be so daring 
[07:45] <Kilos> but twitter messed up. most clients dont work there anymore
[07:45] <Kilos> now he hides, scared hell have to work
[07:45]  * Kilos waits for ai!
[07:45] <kbmonkey> ai!
[07:46] <kbmonkey> oh well that is a pity to hear about the clients being broken.
[07:46] <Kilos> thats his way of showing 
[07:46] <Kilos> um
[07:46] <Kilos> er
[07:46] <Kilos> disdain
[07:46] <Kilos> ya twitter blocks them the swines
[07:47] <Kilos> but birdie and choqok work
[07:47] <Kilos> the new choqok
[07:48] <kbmonkey> are the clients blocked by accident or on purpose?
[07:48] <Kilos> looks like on purpose
[07:49] <Kilos> blocked pidgin twitter even
[07:49] <kbmonkey> twats
[07:49] <Kilos> yeah
[07:49] <kbmonkey> lol
[07:49] <kbmonkey> we should create twatter
[07:49] <Kilos> hehe
[07:49] <Kilos> where you gonna host it
[07:50] <Kilos> dont tell me that vm stuff, i get lost
[07:51] <kbmonkey> nah, dont care much for micro blogging. my heart is not in it. sorry man.
[07:51] <Kilos> hehe np i hardly go there anyway
[07:53] <Kilos> wow 40 nicks on a monday morning
[07:53] <Kilos> normally need flamewars or meetings to get there
[07:59] <kbmonkey> 40 nicks? what do you mean Kilos ?
[07:59] <kbmonkey> 40 nicks in this channel?
[07:59] <Kilos> peeps connected here
[08:00] <Kilos> ya
[08:00] <Kilos> only 5 showing away
[08:01] <kbmonkey> do you think any of them even know they are on irc in this channel?
[08:03] <Kilos> ya most are lurkers
[08:04] <Kilos> and blaze is at school
[08:05] <Kilos> dunno what happened to Banlam and bakuman , they online but never say anything
[08:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> i haven't seen half of these people say anything, ever!
[08:15] <Kilos> they used to chat and help. dunno what happened
[08:15] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:16] <psyatw> HI Kilos
[08:16] <psyatw> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:16] <psyatw> had caps lock switched on there ...
[08:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo :-)
[08:27] <Kilos> np psyatw 
[08:38] <kbmonkey> they probably auto connect to a hundred channels and forget about them :p
[08:39] <Kilos> lol
[08:39] <Kilos> Banlam, ping
[08:39] <Kilos> lewe jy nog?
[08:49] <maiatoday> I just  had an impromptu chat with a colleague at work and we are going to try an impromput release party in stellenbosch next weekend 26 Sept 11:00 am at Ginos, I'll post in the necessary places, everybody welcome. I'll just bring a usb disk with isos if people want to get the release.
[08:51] <Kilos> good for you maiatoday everything has gone queit with the changes in releases
[08:51] <Kilos> quiet
[08:54] <maiatoday> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/2598-saucy-salamander-ubuntu-1310-release-party/
[08:55] <Kilos> whats the next one terrible turtle
[09:42] <Kilos> aha its the e220 modem timing out not my router
[09:44] <Kilos> back to the drawing board
[10:07] <mazal> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/2598-saucy-salamander-ubuntu-1310-release-party/
[10:07] <mazal> Ag sorry , see it's just been posted already :P
[10:11] <Symmetria> LOL
[10:11] <Symmetria> look at this
[10:11] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/open.access.png
[10:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> heh
[10:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> brought to you by Irony Inc.
[10:36] <Kilos> Trixar_za, shout when you come back
[10:36] <Kilos> i would like to know if one can use sakis3g to get into a e220 to disable timeouts
[10:37] <Kilos> the timeout settings must be somewhere in the thing right?
[10:45] <Kilos> Symmetria, whats with afrinic? just got a mail again. Please note that AFRINIC is looking for an IP Analyst.
[11:53] <nuvolari> O jissie. ek gaan omkap van die suurstof-tekort
[11:59] <kbmonkey> hoe so nuvolari ?
[12:08] <Kilos> ai!
[12:09] <Kilos> durbs has plenty sour dust
[12:13] <kbmonkey> especially with all this construction happening. constant hammering, drilling, craning, cabling, grinding... dust all over here for 18 months now
[12:13] <Kilos> ai!
[12:14] <Kilos> what are they building?
[12:19] <Kilos> arent you okes in airconditioned rooms?
[12:22] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: probeer met minder kos en koffie oor die weg kom :P
[12:22] <nuvolari> ek wil my vaatjie kleiner kry
[12:23] <Kilos> hahaha
[12:23] <Kilos> nou waar  kom die suurstof in?
[12:32] <nuvolari> Kilos: kaffeine
[12:32] <nuvolari> ek't die laaste 4/5 dae nie koffie gehad nie
[12:32] <Kilos> haha
[12:33] <Kilos> ai!
[12:34] <Kilos> kbmonkey, did you see, its my modem timing out not the router
[12:45] <mazal> Enjoy the evening everyone
[12:45] <mazal> cheers
[13:30] <kbmonkey> nuvolari, that is a tough one! since I been backon excercise I eat like a horse :P
[13:31] <kbmonkey> if you can train your body to crave fruits as a snack, you are sorted
[13:31] <kbmonkey> takes about 3-4 weeks
[13:49] <Kilos> bbl goona see what sakis can do to e220
[13:56] <Xethron> Hello hello
[13:56] <Xethron> Anyone here using 13.10 yet?
[14:40] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/open.access.png
[14:40] <Symmetria> lol that makes me laugh
[14:46] <aquarat> hey kilos
[14:47] <Kilos> hi aquarat 
[14:47] <Kilos> im sleeping looks like hey
[14:48] <Kilos> was corraling the sheep
[14:48] <aquarat> er
[14:48] <aquarat> oh
[14:48] <Kilos> hows things?
[14:48] <aquarat> Symmetria; lol
[14:48] <aquarat> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/open.access.png
[14:48] <aquarat> is good :)
[14:56] <superfly> Ohi aquarat
[14:56] <aquarat> hey superfly 
[14:56] <aquarat> howzit going ?
[15:02] <Symmetria> superfly btw
[15:02] <Symmetria> why the dislike of bind?
[15:02] <Symmetria> considering that the worlds root servers run it :)
[15:04] <superfly> aquarat: busy thanks. lots of stuff to do and not much time to do it. good problem to have.
[15:04] <superfly> Symmetria: old, clunky and insecure. 
[15:05] <aquarat> 1st world problem :)
[15:05] <aquarat> which is good
[15:05] <superfly> Symmetria: not so much a dislike of it, just found other software that was better
[15:25] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[15:26] <nlsthzn> hiya uncle Kilos 
[15:29] <Kilos> you got food?
[15:29] <nlsthzn> not yet :p but I did order >.<
[15:29] <Kilos> id walk around with pockets full
[15:30] <nlsthzn> that doesn't sound hygenic :p
[15:30] <Kilos> plastic packets man
[15:31] <Kilos> or wash clothes often
[15:31] <Kilos> hehe
[15:33] <nlsthzn> :)
[17:50] <Kilos> hmm... noisy bunch
[17:53] <nlsthzn> yup
[17:55] <Kilos> you working hard nlsthzn ?
[18:11] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[18:13] <nlsthzn> well I am at work
[18:13] <psychicist> hi l
[18:13] <psychicist> oops
[18:13] <psychicist> nlsthzn: 
[18:13] <psychicist> I was at work until one hour ago
[18:14] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[18:14] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[18:14] <Kilos> tummy full nlsthzn ?
[18:15] <nlsthzn> just about thanls
[18:16] <nlsthzn> *thanks
[18:16] <Kilos> good
[18:17] <Symmetria> btw
[18:17] <Symmetria> there will soon be a new mirror 
[18:17] <Kilos> ah
[18:17] <Symmetria> mirror.ac.za since I left tenet kinda went to hell, and I know that
[18:17] <Symmetria> and the current mirrors are slow as shit 
[18:17] <Symmetria> so we're putting up a new mirror at liquid, a huge and very fast one 
[18:17] <Symmetria> actually significantly bigger than the old mirror.ac.za
[18:17] <Kilos> good man
[18:17] <Symmetria> and with dedicated admins 
[18:18] <Symmetria> and the nice thing is, it will be low latency to everywhere 
[18:18] <Kilos> are you at least promoting ubuntu while you are there?
[18:18] <Symmetria> the mirror server will run ubuntu ;p
[18:18] <Kilos> yay
[18:18] <Symmetria> their dns servers run centos and ugh I hate it
[18:18] <Symmetria> ;p
[18:18] <Kilos> but i mean to everyone you talk to as well man
[18:19] <Symmetria> lol, for server based stuff yes
[18:19] <Symmetria> for notebooks and desktops? I am, and have always been an osx fan ;p
[18:19] <Kilos> no man for office and hotel and other use too
[18:19] <Kilos> grrr
[18:19] <Symmetria> no one will convince me that ubuntu makes a better desktop than osx ;p
[18:20] <Kilos> i havent seen it yet
[18:20] <Symmetria> never worked on an apple?
[18:20] <Kilos> is that the mac stuff
[18:20] <Kilos> never seen one even
[18:20] <Symmetria> yeah osx is apple
[18:20] <Symmetria> dude, go to an istore, and play with an osx based machine
[18:21] <Kilos> i dont travel anywhere
[18:21] <Symmetria> it is smooth, beautiful, pretty, stable, and can do everything a linux box can do ;p
[18:21] <Kilos> sigh
[18:22] <Symmetria> sorry to say it, but I still believe that opensource geeks have no clue how to design a decent user interface for some whack reason ;p
[18:22] <Symmetria> their backend shit is awesome 
[18:22] <Symmetria> but the GUI's? ugh :)
[18:23] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:23] <nlsthzn> itunes.... hmmm.... tasty
[18:23] <Kilos> i rather like the old unity and kde
[18:23] <Symmetria> heh the last decent GUI I saw on a *nix based system that wasnt osx 
[18:23] <Symmetria> was on IRIX 
[18:23] <Symmetria> ;p irix was awesomeness, 3D GUI ftw 
[18:24] <Kilos> oh well just keep pushing ubuntu servers then
[18:24] <Kilos> thats better than nothing
[18:24] <Symmetria> so long as they are best suited for the purpose I'm using em for, I will :)
[18:25] <Kilos> hehe
[18:25] <Symmetria> (there is one particular server application I won't push ubuntu for)
[18:25] <Symmetria> ;p and I'll get hated for saying this
[18:25] <Kilos> so when can we expect the new mirror Symmetria ?
[18:25] <Kilos> say it
[18:25] <Symmetria> kilos waiting for budget signature 
[18:26] <Symmetria> new mirror = 60 thousand dollars worth of hardware
[18:26] <Symmetria> need a second signature 
[18:26] <Kilos> whew
[18:26] <Symmetria> lol kilos, microsoft exchange 
[18:26] <Kilos> in timeless africa
[18:26] <Symmetria> for business purposes, in terms of task integration, calender integration, mail integration and as an overall package for all that stuff 
[18:26] <Kilos> eish
[18:27] <Symmetria> there is nothing out there that provides the same level of seemless integration and functionality
[18:27] <Symmetria> it just doesnt exist, if it did, I'd use it 
[18:27] <Symmetria> but I have a simple rule, I will not sacrifice functionality and efficiency for operating system religion :)
[18:27] <Kilos> im sure the dev guys will work on things like that so keep your eyes open
[18:27] <Symmetria> kilos *shrug* when they get it right, I'll be open to it 
[18:28] <Kilos> they will
[18:28] <Symmetria> but Ive waited a long time and there have been many attempts and nothing has worked so far :)
[18:28] <Kilos> just be patient
[18:28] <Symmetria> look at novell groupwise ;p
[18:28] <Symmetria> that runs under linux 
[18:28] <Symmetria> its fuckin aweful :)
[18:28] <Symmetria> anyway brb, I gotta go fetch a harddrive quick
[18:28] <Kilos> ok
[18:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. have a good shift nlsthzn 
[18:34] <nlsthzn> thanks uncle Kilos 
[18:34] <nlsthzn> sleep tight
[18:34] <Kilos> see ya morrow
[18:34] <Kilos> ty
[18:34] <inetpro> Kilos: pong
[18:34] <Kilos> ah
[18:34] <Kilos> the swine
[18:34] <inetpro> uh?
[18:35] <Kilos> naand boetie
[18:35] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[18:35] <Kilos> jy moenie so skaars wees nie
[18:35] <Kilos> haha
[18:35]  * inetpro is nie skaars nie
[18:35] <Kilos> wat maak jy of jy so kwaai besig is inetpro ?
[18:35] <inetpro> onkruid vergaan nie so maklik nie
[18:36] <inetpro> Kilos: besig, hoekom?
[18:36] <Kilos> ja man maar jy is besig om n ernstige lurker te word
[18:36] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:37] <Kilos> ek wou net se jy moenie so skaars wees nie
[18:37] <inetpro> ah
[18:37] <Kilos> anders gaan ons maar aan
[18:37] <inetpro> julle moet in elk geval aangaan
[18:37] <Kilos> ja met die hoop dat jy een of ander tyd sal opdaag
[18:38] <inetpro> sal maar moet sien hoe ek meer tyd hier kan spandeer, maar dink nie dit sal vinnig gebeur nie
[18:38] <Kilos> al work and no play makes jack a dull boy
[18:38] <inetpro> ai!
[18:39] <Kilos> ok nou kan ons gaan slaap
[18:39] <inetpro> jammer oom!
[18:39] <Kilos> never mind ek sal jou terug kry
[18:39] <inetpro> goeie nag oom :-)
[18:39] <Kilos> lekker slaap julle ook
[18:40] <nlsthzn> :)
[18:40] <inetpro> nlsthzn: howzit
[18:40] <nlsthzn> hey inetpro ... not to shabby and yourself?
[18:41] <inetpro> all good thanks
[18:41] <inetpro> no reason to complain
[18:41] <superfly> hi inetpro, nlsthzn
[18:41] <nlsthzn> sweet :) I never complain as nobody ever listens
[18:41] <inetpro> hello superfly
[18:41] <nlsthzn> hiya superfly ... long time :)
[18:42] <superfly> yeah, I don't get much time in front of the keyboard these days
[18:43] <nlsthzn> it happens
[18:43] <nlsthzn> gui's via ssh is so slow .... zzzzz
[18:43] <inetpro> superfly: you still ride the train?
[18:43]  * nlsthzn was running firefox from home @ work :p
[18:43] <superfly> yup
[18:44] <nlsthzn> I am going to log out a bit and give some other chaps a chance on the PC...
[18:44] <nlsthzn> hope you all have a good night :)
[18:45] <inetpro> superfly: I thought by now you must have gotten a promotion and with that a nice new sporty vehicle
[18:45] <superfly> inetpro: heh.
[18:45] <superfly> wishfuil thinking
[18:45] <inetpro> :-)
[18:46] <superfly> inetpro: it's not the car, it's the petrol
[18:46] <superfly> even riding the Gautrain would be about a third of the price of petrol spent getting to work in a month
[18:47] <superfly> and that doesn't include the cost of wear and tear on the car
[18:47] <inetpro> hmm... you think it's that much of a difference?
[18:49] <superfly> it costs me R290 per month for a first class monthly ticket to Cape Town from Muizenberg
[18:49] <inetpro> how many km?
[18:49] <superfly> it would cost me R3000+ per month in petrol and wear and tear on the car (not to mention parking at upwards of R70 per day)
[18:50] <inetpro> wow!
[18:51] <inetpro> in that case you made a very good choice to use the train
[18:51] <inetpro> superfly: but tell me is there no way that you can rather work from home?
[18:52] <superfly> no, and I don't want to either
[18:52] <superfly> I have two small children, I wouldn't get any work done.
[18:52] <superfly> Why do you think I'm hardly in front of the PC at night?
[18:52] <superfly> I have to run after the kids
[18:53] <inetpro> good point
[18:54] <inetpro> but with a bit of planning you could always build yourself a isolation chamber at home :-)
[18:56] <inetpro> anyway, I'm just twisting my mind around the issue a bit
[18:57] <inetpro> more and more people seem to be able to pull it off these days
[18:58] <superfly> inetpro: we also do pair programming at work
[18:58] <inetpro> ahh, nice!
[19:11] <Symmetria> so, who's gonna be learning delphi to teach to the school kids ;p
[19:11]  * Symmetria is amused
[19:19]  * superfly knows Delphi, but isn't a teacher
[19:19]  * Tonberry does not know Deplhi and is also not a teacher.
[19:20]  * inetpro wonders how many teachers actually know Delphi
[19:25] <Symmetria> lol
[19:25] <Symmetria> I could probably still write delphi code if I tried
[19:25] <Symmetria> I wrote a lot of very very evil shit in pascal back in the day
[19:25] <Symmetria> ;p the school was forever wondering why stuff on their computers kept breaking badly
[19:25] <Symmetria> my tsr's were evil