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Ponch0can i build a .deb package without having build-essnetial?00:01
wilee-nileenuf0xx, max in size or speed, be clearer.00:03
wilee-nileethe card reader should not be limited in size, post the errors00:04
OerHeksPonch0, not likely, as it is the metapackage for building tools00:04
Ponch0heh, thanks00:04
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nuf0xxthe card does not mount and dmesg gives :  http://pastebin.com/s78duajX00:06
zykotick9nuf0xx: can chance you could repost that to paste.ubuntu.com?  i'd be interested to see as well...00:07
zykotick9s/can/any/00:07
nuf0xxnp00:07
wilee-nileenuf0xx, I would ask in #hardware I think it is the reader, the card reader on my acer aspire d250 has rarely worked I bout a usb converter.00:08
wilee-nileebought*00:08
nuf0xxzykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233865/00:09
nuf0xxwilee-nilee: I'll try there too00:09
zykotick9nuf0xx: thanks.  sorry, i have NO idea what that means...  best of luck.00:10
wilee-nileewith a voltage fail my assumption is a hardware problem, just a guess though00:10
HateYoFacesup guys00:13
danny4wayHow do I download javac on ubuntu through terminal?00:14
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wilee-nilee!info javac00:15
ubottuPackage javac does not exist in raring00:15
wilee-nilee!find javac00:15
ubottuFound: javacc, javacc-doc, libjavacc-maven-plugin-java, libplexus-compiler-javac-java00:15
jfmario!pwd00:15
jfmariocool00:15
usr13is language-selector-gnome an essential package00:16
danny4wayIt says !find: event not found wilee-nilee00:16
wilee-nileedanny4way, what release are you running?00:17
Ponch0anyone help out a bro a fellow citizen with a network driver setup?00:17
danny4way1300:17
wilee-nilee13 what danny4way00:17
danny4way13.0400:17
usr13is language-selector-gnome an essential package?00:17
wilee-nileethe bot syas not available in raring00:18
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Guest27844guys, trying to install ubuntu 13.04 on my win8 laptop is making me pull my hair out00:18
wilee-nileedanny4way, you might start here, or a ppa. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=javac+13.04&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=RThbUrreOKbRiwK3wICwAg00:18
wilee-nilee!uefi | Guest2784400:19
ubottuGuest27844: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI00:19
zykotick9usr13: i wouldn't recommend trying to remove it, if that's what you are asking.00:19
wilee-nileeGuest27844, more http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729500:19
Guest27844thanks wilee-nilee00:19
danny4wayThank you.00:19
wilee-nileeGuest27844, no problem it is a bit of problem for some.00:20
usr13I'm getting "Errors were encountered while processing: language-selector-gnome"00:20
wilee-nileedanny4way, hopefully it gets you closer.00:20
Guest27844wilee-nilee, like, ubuntu installs but there is no grub or way to boot the installed ubuntu, windows just starts up00:20
danny4wayYeah .I will try to figure it out00:20
IrreliumI created an Ubuntu Live USB using the universal USB creator from pendrivelinux.com, and I set it to use persistence, but for some reason, the persistence isn't working. When I restart the computer, everything is deleted. I was wondering if anybody had any suggestions. Google isn't much help00:21
wilee-nileeGuest27844, If it is installed some find the bootrepair app working to fix this, it generates a bootinfo summary keep the url it generates. there is a thread on this app at the Ubuntu forums to post it to in these situations if the app does not fix it, or use here.00:21
IrreliumI also tried reformatting the drive and installing again with persistence using LiLi USB creator, with the same results00:21
wilee-nileeIrrelium, try unetbootin00:22
Irreliumwilee-nilee: I was experiencing a weird glitch with UNetBootin and wasn't able to use it00:22
IrreliumFor some reason it wasn't detecting my USB drive00:23
wilee-nileeIrrelium, Yu can have a persistent partition instead as well00:23
wilee-nileewith a partition you can make it bas big as needed.00:23
wilee-nileeas*00:24
IrreliumIsn't that pretty much what the USB installers do?00:24
Ponch0my internet worked during install, is there anyway i can boot from install cd to set up my internet card ?00:24
wilee-nileeIrrelium, No the casper-rw is in the install, this is another partiton.00:24
IrreliumOh00:25
IrreliumMaybe I will try that then00:25
IrreliumThanks00:25
wilee-nileeIrrelium, For example I have a 32 gig thumb I can make a 1 gig partition for the iso, and 15 gig for the persistent00:25
wilee-nileeer 32 gig00:26
usr13"language-selector-gnome is broken or not fully installed"00:26
wilee-nilee!details | isr1300:26
ubottuisr13: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."00:26
wilee-nileeusr13, YOu are not new here you know the detail drill00:27
Ponch0gaaah!!!00:28
bonhoefferit looks like all my audio is muted -- but volume is up all the way -- any tips?00:28
Ponch0how is build-ESSENTIAL not included with ubuntu install?!!?00:29
wilee-nilee!alsa00:29
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.00:29
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usr13Unable to locate package language-sector-common00:33
usr13(Any suggestions?)00:33
Ponch0anyone help a brutha out with some internets setup?00:34
Guest27844Ponch0, I can (possibly)00:34
Ponch0awesome!00:34
hitsujiTMOusr13, try spelling it correctly, language-selector-common00:34
Ponch0i'm on a different computer so any output i have to type up .. heh00:35
Guest27844wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233934/00:35
usr13http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233506/00:35
wilee-nileeGuest27844, wubi does not work in W8.00:35
marlonbrando78I get the following error Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.00:35
Ponch0Guest27844, i have the drivers but I need build-essnetial which won't install, and linux headers generic which the computer claims to have.00:36
Guest27844I just installed the standard way (installer)00:36
butcherchats00:37
usr13http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233937/00:37
Guest27844When I rebooted it showed Windows Boot Manager not finding a file "/ubuntu/<something>/<something.mbr>00:37
lukodiablohi guys....i've try run apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essentil and i get..... Package linux-headers-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package.00:37
wilee-nileeGuest27844, sda4 shows a whole lotta wubi you tried at some point. I'm not real up on uefi anyway, i would use the bootrepair thread at the UF, if no one knows here.00:37
daftykinslukodiablo: run "uname -r" then install "linux-headers-(write here what uname -r reported)"00:37
wilee-nileeGuest27844, You have windows backed up?00:38
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Guest27844wilee-nilee, nah00:38
wilee-nileeGuest27844, Really well best of luck I would not mess with this without a backup myself, takes just a little effort.00:39
Guest27844Ah00:39
marlonbrando78Hi I get the following error Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.00:39
daftykinsmarlonbrando78: i wouldn't worry about that.00:39
marlonbrando78ok tks00:40
wilee-nileewindows I always backup the installs and updates take to long compared to linux in general.00:40
marlonbrando78daftykins I have another issue, I have no sound indicator, no sound. My hardware is there when I LSPCI00:41
daftykinsno idea sorry.00:41
usr13I'm about to give up on this, but want to give it one last shot.  I've gotten this laptop with 11.10 and have tried to do distribution upgrade to 12.04.3 but it ran into filesystem errors, I ran fsck and fixed 'em, but now it's stuck with Errors were encountered while processing: ... See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233455/00:41
lukodiablodaftykins:  wheni  run unamme -r i get 3.2.600:41
daftykinslukodiablo: right but what's the full output...00:42
daftykinsusr13: do you need anything from the 11.10 install?00:42
wilee-nileeusr13, This your 11.10 install originally?00:42
lukodiablodaftykins: Reading state information... Done00:43
lukodiablolinux-headers-3.2.6 is already the newest version.00:43
daftykinslukodiablo: sooo... what's not working? :)00:44
daftykinswhat are you *actually* trying to do?00:44
hitsujiTMOlukodiablo: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue00:45
usr13Yes, it was 11.10 and attempted to upgrade to 12.04.300:46
usr13Here is sources.list:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233956/00:46
Ponch0ok, how do I know which file to install with "dpkg -i"?00:47
hitsujiTMOPonch0 dpkg --get-selections00:48
hitsujiTMOPonch0 sorry, i misread your question, ignore me00:48
lukodiabloi've try install my wirelles http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Sitecom_WLA-6100 by follow the http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5347400:48
Ponch0hutsuji thank you haha00:48
wilee-nileelukodiablo, what does uname -a show00:49
atrilhi00:49
lukodiablowilee-nilee: 3.2.600:49
atrilI'm trying to install liebmu but I get this message: libemu : Depende: libc6 (>= 2.15) pero está instalado 2.13-3800:49
wilee-nileelukodiablo, no the whole output00:49
atrilhow can I update libc6 ?00:50
wilee-nileelukodiablo, backtrack is eol and not supported here.00:50
Ponch0how do I know which file to install with dpkg -i?00:51
lukodiablowilee-nilee: okay :(00:51
crimsonmaneI am having issue getting something to run on boot, prior to logging in. This is the /etc/init/ file contents: http://dpaste.com/1415814/00:51
jcbjoehi all .. im really trying to stick with linux but debian / gentoo / ubuntu 13 / windows 8 / archlinux they all consume my battery in almost 1 hour .. i heard ubuntu 10.04 and 10.0 are good .. 1 thing i noticed the iso images are server images .. could i install them and just put on a window manager and i should be good ?00:52
crimsonmanejcbjoe: most likely cause is that you have a bad battery which needs replaced.00:52
daftykinsjcbjoe: are you sure your battery isn't just faulty? :)00:52
ponbiki^00:52
daftykinsif even Windows (installed properly) gives poor battery life, then you're out of luck00:53
wilee-nileejcbjoe, support starts at 12.04 unless it's a sever.00:54
moesHad a grub rescue problem so I ran boot-repair from Community Ubuntu...sudo add-apt-reposotory ppa! yannubuntu/boot-repair...repairs worked..now where do I find the ppa to remove or do I need to remove ??00:54
wilee-nilee!ppa-purge00:55
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html00:55
wilee-nileemoes, You don't have to remove it but you can purge it.00:55
techlordHello all, looking for some help with file sharing from ubuntu to windows 7, I can see the folders but when i click on the folders I get a prompt for username and password but after I put int he right info it just prompts again, no matter waht I enter.00:55
wilee-nileetechlord, this with samba?00:56
atril /quit00:56
techlordYes samba is setup and the address in the nautalis shows smb00:56
moeswilee-nilee, Thanks for the info00:56
wilee-nilee!samba00:56
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.00:56
Ponch0what does sudo apt-get install linux-headers 'uname -r' do?00:58
Ponch0I'd try it00:58
Ponch0but I have no internet connection00:58
Ponch0and I need that package00:58
Ponch0whatever it is00:58
FloodBot1Ponch0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:58
Ponch0suck my balls00:59
chegneyMy wireless adapter is not being detected automatically, I suspect it is because I need to load firmware or something like that, how do I tell what adapter I have so I can get the firmware and then where do I load it at?01:00
wilee-nileechegney, this a usb, if so run lsusb and identify it, if internal run lspci.01:01
chegneywilee-nilee: okay thanks, I've found that it is a BCM431201:01
wilee-nilee!broadcom | chegney01:02
ubottuchegney: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx01:02
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Guest54947I finally got win8/ubuntu dual boot working01:02
wilee-nileecool01:02
Guest54947but the grub menu is a disaster area, lol01:03
Marleneeis this conf right in " CRON " to run file every 3 hour ?    * 3 * * * path/to/file01:03
wilee-nileeGuest54947, YOu can run update-grub to start with and it can be modified.01:03
Guest54947From within the installed ubuntu?01:03
wilee-nileeGuest54947, yeah.01:04
wilee-nileeGuest54947, You might check with #grub01:04
FlannelMarlenee: that'll run at 3am, you want */3 instead of 3 (anything divisible by 3)01:05
jribMarlenee: no01:05
Marimarbuna dimineata01:07
Marimarsunt si romani pe-aici ?01:07
MarleneeFlannel : can i run jib only one time on fixed time01:08
Marimarnu, niciunul ?01:08
Marimaradica am intrat degeaba ?01:08
Nellukwhats the deal is #php.. joining it just fails silently on my client?01:08
wilee-nileeNelluk, Thats not a channel01:09
jribNelluk: #freenode can help you01:09
wilee-nileeon freenode anyway01:09
jcbjoeit is a hannel01:10
jcbjoeim in there01:10
hellknightso.. this will be the first time that I'll upgrade to another version of Ubuntu without installing it. How do I do it via the command line?01:10
jcbjoes/hannel/channel/01:10
jribjcbjoe: you're likely in ##php01:10
jcbjoeok cool01:10
wilee-nilee!ro | Marimar01:10
ubottuMarimar: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro01:10
chegneyi can't find this... System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers01:10
Marimarmc wilee-nilee01:11
chegneysupposed to be in the desktop menu?01:11
wilee-nileechegney, run software-properties-gtk01:11
Marimartks01:11
wilee-nileeno problem marienz01:11
techlordI dont remmeber who sent me the links but those are the links I have been looking over before and still can not seem to get it setup right, or I am just not smart enough to figure it out :)01:11
jribis there some way to show the current fontconfig settings?01:11
wilee-nileeMarimar, *01:11
Marimar:)01:11
brobriobritest01:11
alumno_Hola01:12
alumno_Hola01:12
alumno_fossterer01:13
chegneywilee-nilee: that doesn't show anythig for Hardware/Additional Drivers01:14
fishcookerhow to know display resolution of our monitor?01:14
buufishcooker: Get the serial number?01:14
usr13fishcooker: You mean what you have on  it now?01:15
usr13fishcooker: xrandr01:15
usr13fishcooker: xrandr with no arguments shows what you have now as well as available options.01:16
fishcookeryes usr13 .. this box costum.. we don't have the serial for this box buu01:16
wilee-nileechegney, should be on far right tab, what release is this?01:17
chegneywilee-nilee: 12.04 LTS?01:17
chegneysomething like that01:17
usr13fishcooker: The one with the * is what you have now.01:18
wilee-nileechegney, lsb_release -a will tell you01:18
chegneywilee-nilee: 12.04.3 LTS01:19
wilee-nileechegney, should be installed as an app in 12.04 but here is a link. https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/jockey-gtk/01:19
thenetbookHello01:28
reisio'lo01:29
compdochello?01:29
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thenetbookI have recently downloaded a game called "Super Hot" on my main computer, which has Ubuntu 12.04. Is it possible to play that game on 12.04?01:30
reisiothenetbook: where'd you download it from?01:30
chegneywilee-nilee: I show that jockey-gtk is already installed01:30
thenetbooksuperhotgame.com01:30
reisiothenetbook: SUPERHOT-LINUX.zip?01:31
thenetbookyes01:31
thenetbookI extracted it01:31
reisiommhmmm01:31
reisioand then?01:31
thenetbookAnd then i made the .86x file as Executable01:31
wilee-nileechegney, not sure what you need, tell the channel the issues.01:31
thenetbookI try to open it, but nothing happens01:32
yesyayenerror during ./configure ...   "checking for python libraries... not found      configure: error: could not find Python headers or library"01:32
James_Eppthenetbook: let me think01:32
James_EppI had that issue once01:32
yesyayenpython installed properly01:32
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James_Eppthenetbook: Give me a minute or five to download it and see what I can find out for ya.01:32
thenetbookok01:32
reisiothenetbook: you tried double-clicking it, you mean?01:32
thenetbookthank you01:32
thenetbookyes01:32
reisiothenetbook: try renaming it to .bin01:33
thenetbookok01:33
reisiooh it's in C#?01:33
chegneywilee-nilee: ah, never mind, after I rebooted after installing b43-fwcutter, an Additional Drivers thing showed up at the top next to mail icon01:34
yeiki am having a problem with updates - http://pastebin.com/X7KW8v7w any thoughts?01:34
wilee-nileechegney, cool.01:34
wilee-nileeyeik, yeah broken packages, you add any additional repos, say ppa's?01:36
James_Eppthenetbook: Still downloading. Eventually, mate.01:37
Psil0Cybinhey guys im having problems updating i keep getting errors with some of the repos01:37
yeikwilee-nilee, not recently. let me check whats in the list01:37
Psil0Cybinwhat can i do01:37
Psil0Cybinit keeps saying check ur internet connection01:37
Psil0Cybinbut my internet connection is fine01:37
wilee-nileeyeik, check sources.list.d and sources.list01:37
James_Eppthenetbook: interesting. I downloaded it and it opened up right away.01:39
James_Eppno problems here......idk what to tell you.01:39
wilee-nileeyeik, The 32 packages n ot upgraded looks like a partial upgrade was run, or additional repos, or something is wrong anyway01:40
reisioJames_Epp: by double-clicking the .x86?01:40
wilee-nileeor are blocked due to the broken packages01:41
James_Eppreisio: Yup.01:41
IrreliumI am having a weird problem where I create a persistent live USB with Ubuntu 13.04, but when I use it, the persistency doesn't work (everything is reset when the computer restarts). Does anybody know what could be causing that?01:41
yeikThe issue seemed to happen when I was low on memory and tried to update. it had an issue and I figured I would reboot and try later.01:41
yeikwilee-nilee, I disabled all extra PPA sources using the update manager.01:41
yeikI still get the same error01:42
wilee-nileeyeik, disabling does not remove what has been installed from them, if that is athe issue.01:42
yeikwilee-nilee, the package having issues is libldap-2.4-201:43
yeikI did do a dpkg --remove -force-remove-reinstreq for that, and it led me to a loop, wine1.4 and wine1.4-common depend on each other and can't be removed01:43
wilee-nileeyeik, I'm not familiar with what that is or what its for, so more details to the channel might help, or looking at the ppa's, at this point this is just a assumption as to them being part of the problem.01:44
yeikwilee-nilee, wine or libldap?01:45
wilee-nileeyeik, I don't use wine, so not familiar.01:45
wilee-nilee!info libldap-2.4-201:46
ubottulibldap-2.4-2 (source: openldap): OpenLDAP libraries. In component main, is standard. Version 2.4.31-1ubuntu2.1 (raring), package size 181 kB, installed size 504 kB01:46
yeikwilee-nilee, wine is a windows emulator, should be in the normal repo and has not caused any problems for any of machines before. this is the only one having problems.01:46
wilee-nileeyeik, I know what it is I use windows for windows apps, I would suspect it is part of the wine ppa, you have it?01:47
yeikwilee-nilee, there is no wine ppa in my sources list01:48
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wilee-nileeyeik, What ubuntu release are you running, honestly this is not an area I can nothing but google, which you can do01:49
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yeikwilee-nilee, uname -a shows 3.2.0-54-generic #82-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:08:42 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux01:50
* yeik nods wilee-nilee 01:50
yeikI just know sometimes more people have had issues troubleshooting package issues and able to work around it.01:50
wilee-nileeyeik, how about lsb_release -a01:50
yeikescription:Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS01:51
yeikRelease:12.0401:51
yeikCodename:precise01:51
wilee-nileeyeik, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/libldap-2.4-2  I think packages have been removed and exchanged for others maybe.01:52
wilee-nileeyeik, Have you used the update manager at all, I wonder if you have run a partial upgrade?01:54
yeikit is possible. I have had strange issues with i386 and amd64 packages conflicting before.01:54
yeikwilee-nilee, yes, i normally use the update manager, sometimes i will use cli with apt-get01:55
wilee-nileeyeik, This is a early 12.04 install with that kernel being there, there have been stack updates with .2 and .3 I have the raring kernels in my 12.04.3, might be part of the problem, just a guess though.01:57
yeikwilee-nilee, i guess its possible. I could probably reinstall over it. just have to find a good copy of lts.01:59
wilee-nileeyeik, Most likely fixable, it is whether you want to due the time is all at least that's my view, or just install 12.04.3, and assume all will work.02:00
yeikwilee-nilee, I prefer fixing things when I can, finding the information sometimes can be pretty complex with the problems that I can't immediately fix.02:01
wilee-nileeyeik, For me this is a hobby, I'm not  an IT person, so I just know what I need to know and what I have learned spending way to much time here, and other places. ;)02:02
nixninehow do i get to an ubuntu room?02:03
Guest89301you are in one lol02:03
wilee-nileenixnine, you are here02:03
yeikwilee-nilee, I understand. I am an IT person. Just not normally linux, its my personal OS of choice.02:03
nixnineyes, but this is for something specific?02:03
Guest89301hmm maybe im doing this wrong02:03
Guest89301 /nick is to change nick right02:04
reisionixnine: /msg alis list *ubunt*foo*02:04
nixnineis there a way to convert an m4v?02:04
bisitype slash-msg NickServ help02:04
reisionixnine: ffmpeg02:04
nixninetried that but I get an error about gnome keyring02:05
reisionixnine: when what, trying to install ffmpeg?02:05
nixninewhen trying to convert at terminal02:05
reisionixnine: what command did you run?02:06
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sudomilkthere we go02:06
sudomilkhad to do /raw nick *nickname*02:06
reisiogj02:07
nixnineffmpeg -i NFP1.m4v NFP1.mov02:08
LiENUSanyone here ever used mightytext (mightytext.net) with unity? i want to get notifications working...02:08
nixnineI get this: WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/nixnine/keyring-SLhJNd/pkcs11: No such file or directory02:09
sudomilkoh awesome, ubuntu installed grub automatically, that's nie02:09
sudomilk*nice02:09
reisionixnine: I doubt that has anything to do with ffmpeg02:10
reisionixnine: you sure the command failed?02:10
nixninehttp://pastebin.com/ew8SLi8M02:10
nixninetry that02:10
reisiocould be leftover from something else you ran in that term02:10
reisionixnine: yeah looks unrelated02:11
reisionixnine: what's the output of ffmpeg -i NFP1.m4v 2>&102:11
wilee-nileeLiENUS, first link. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=mightytext+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=102:11
nixnineany idea?02:11
nixninesame thing02:12
gdosis it possible to use symbolic links (either hard or soft) to point from /var/www/doc (http://localhost/doc) to file://localhost/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html ...???02:15
darkeyeshow to redirect traffic from my ISP router to my private IP, I have to do a port forward from the ISP router to my computer in order to connect remote desktop02:17
reisiogdos: ln -s /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html /var/www/whatever/doc02:17
reisiogdos: though dir to dir might be more sensible02:17
gdosreisio: is there a way to do it recursively?02:18
reisiogdos: hrmm? :p02:18
reisiogdos: how about ln -s /usr/share/doc /var/www/whatever/doc02:18
zohanmorning02:18
zohanall02:18
zohansome body can help me?02:19
sudomilkwhats your issue02:19
darkeyeshow to redirect traffic from my ISP router to my private IP, I have to do a port forward from the ISP router to my computer in order to connect remote desktop02:19
gdosreisio: i installed dhelp and it point to file://localhost/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html instead of /var/www/doc and i was just wondering how to fix this?02:19
zohanhow to upgrade kernel to 3.11.5 on ubuntu 12.04 LTS ? sudomilk02:21
zohan?02:21
darkeyesok someone help me02:21
LiENUSwilee-nilee, first link doesnt answer anything and is from 8 months ago...02:21
SchrodingersScatdarkeyes: right, port forwarding, you could also try a reverse tunnel in ssh, you could set up a vpn and get all your systems on it02:21
reisiogdos: I think I just said02:21
rickbhello, ever since i upgraded my server to 13.04 alt arrow doesn't work to switch windows in irssi.. any idea how to restore this functionality?02:22
wilee-nileeLiENUS, I don't think there have been any poting to use it, 3rd party stuff anyway, technically not supported here.02:22
wilee-nileeporting*02:22
rickbusing byobu as well02:22
reisiorickb: what does it do instead?02:22
darkeyesSchrodingersScat: So I cannot port forward02:22
LiENUSwilee-nilee, well theres a web browser notification api that afaik mightytext does use... the trick is getitng it to work with unity...02:22
LiENUSso there wouldnt be any porting it might be a browser addon or using a specific browser however02:23
LiENUShence why i asked02:23
rickbreisio: instead it tries to do what F3 and F4 did, switching byobu session02:23
rickbs02:23
wilee-nileezohan, Out of the repo kernels, are not supported here02:23
rickbF2 and F3*02:23
reisiorickb: right, so byobu has changed its configuration and taken over that key combination02:23
reisiorickb: you'd need to reconfigure byobu/your term02:24
rickbreisio: ah so if i unbind it it'll probably work02:24
reisiorickb: maybe02:24
rickblet me take a look at that conf02:24
reisiorickb: you can also use ESC+#, or /win # as a command02:24
reisioor if you run irssi in a term with only a single tab, that might work02:24
archymedarkeyes, do you have a static or dynamic ip?02:24
darkeyesarchyme: a dynamic02:24
vee_hey guys quick question, every time i launch cinnamon, it says hardware acceleration is not available. this isa  minimal install and so the intel driver is new....what should i do?02:25
reisiovee_: what should you do to accomplish what?02:25
gdosreisio: it worked. sorta. it didn't appear to link everything.02:25
rickbreisio: i tried that, let me kill byobu and see if what i did works02:25
archymedarkeyes, if you didnt want to go with what schrodingersScat recommended you could use a dynamic dns service to accomplish what you want to do02:26
vee_reisio to get hardware acceleartion working.02:26
brobriobrihello, test02:26
SchrodingersScatbrobriobri: received02:27
SonikkuAmericabrobriobri: pass02:27
darkeyesarchyme: Allready try that but I couldn't, I was trying to use VNC server02:27
brobriobriThanks02:27
reisiovee_: you'd probably have to launch muffin/mutter from a terminal to get useful output02:27
fishcookerhow to restart xserver from remote command line?02:28
reisiofishcooker: something like sudo service lightdm restart, I think?02:28
archymedarkeyes, did you port forward on your router to the machine you want to remote to?02:28
SonikkuAmericaor sudo restart lightdm02:28
netherHi there, I'm having an issue with getting i-bus to work in 13.10. Am I able to ask about that here?02:28
fishcookerno i don't have lightdm.. i've openbox here02:28
sudomilkrestart after the service is the correct syntax - like apache service httpd restart02:28
fishcookerreisio:02:28
wilee-nilee!13.10 | nether02:28
ubottunether: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.02:28
darkeyesarchyme: the thing is that I don't hace a router02:29
netherthanks wilee-nilee.02:29
vee_tried to launch mutter, and it says it failed to load the i965 driver...hm...02:29
darkeyesarchyme: I have an external IP and  a private IP02:29
reisiofishcooker: do you use a DM?02:30
fishcookerno reisio02:30
fishcookerits costum box02:30
reisiofishcooker: how do you start X?02:30
archymedarkeyes, i have never not used a router so im not sure I can help you any furthur. im guessing your private ip is set by your modem and your modem cannot port forward correctly02:31
rickbbtw removing the m-left from the fkeys.tmux config fixed it!02:31
reisiorickb: ah, tmux02:32
reisiorickb: gj02:32
reisioalt+# is pretty nice for irssi02:32
reisiobut I use /win #02:32
rickbreisio: ya idk why they did that but commenting it fixed it all good02:32
rickbreisio: ya i have just used alt arrow for so many years i must have it lol02:32
reisioso I don't have to deal with that issue you just dealt with ever02:32
fishcookerstartx02:32
reisiowell, Ubuntu doesn't exactly focus on irssi users02:32
reisioparticularly the desktop versions02:32
rickbyeah02:33
reisiofishcooker: okay, you'd just run that again02:33
rickbuse terminal people are a dying breed02:33
reisiofishcooker: log out of openbox first, or killall X, then startx02:33
reisiorickb: I don't know :)02:33
rickbreisio: at least as far as how we're accomodated.02:33
archymedarkeyes, have you tried team viewer?02:33
sudomilkif you learn to write bash scripts, you can get paid a lot just for that02:33
yeikterminal users not really dying, people go back and forth it seems.02:33
SchrodingersScatYou can get more done in terminal though, I'm starting to run out of tasks a human needs to do :(02:33
darkeyesarchyme: just a questions, when you use a router, meaning that you have a physical router in your house or whatever place, does that means that the router's IP is directly connected to the internet02:34
sudomilki have one  that fixes all file permissions on a web server with one line02:34
sudomilkits beautiful02:34
* yeik nods at sudomilk 02:34
wilee-nileeubuntu is the king of gui and mint the queen, linux in general is cli orientated02:34
yeiksudomilk, you shouldn't have to fix any file permissions on a web server... someone had too much access.02:34
SchrodingersScatdarkeyes: normally the router has the external IP and negotiates connections from the internal ip/lan02:35
fishcookerreisio: please look this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6234238/02:35
sudomilkbut really though, if youre using terminal, i'd suggest checking out guake - it's my favorite so far02:35
reisiofishcooker: what about it?02:35
sudomilkyeik: you have to when you are an admin for other peoples things who don't know how suPHP works. They set things to 777 and then the page 403's out until you set dirs back to 755 and files back to 64402:35
darkeyesSchrodingersScat: does the router's IP changes02:36
yeiksudomilk, yes, but if you admin it properly, they wouldn't be able to do that right?02:36
fishcookerit seems there is no openbox process02:37
fishcookerbut there is startx process02:37
reisiofishcooker: 'X' is the process you would want to kill02:37
reisiofishcooker: if you can't just log out of openbox02:37
reisiopgrep -l X02:37
SchrodingersScatdarkeyes: it can, that depends on the ISP mostly.02:37
sudomilkyeik, thus is the price of allowing people to use jailed shell access02:37
sudomilkbut its an easy enough fix02:38
yeiksudomilk, I don't admin linux boxes much, windows mostly. I see many problems with all sorts of programs and os versions from people making changes they shouldn't02:38
sudomilkoh man, windows/iis is a nightmare for me. you are a hardy person indeed02:38
yeikso, is anybody here really good with package manager, and troubleshooting issues?02:38
darkeyesSchrodingersScat: and what do I need to get a router, because the only thing ISP provide me is the modem02:38
archymedarkeyes, with a router you can use port forwarding to get to a specific port on a specific machine, something you cannot do with a modem.02:38
SchrodingersScatdarkeyes: if you only have a modem, wouldn't all your ports be open right now?02:39
darkeyesSchrodingersScat: well what I donnot understand is how to redirect from the external IP to my private IP02:41
jeffrey_fSchrodingersScat: Most ISP's provide a router/modem.  Do you mean a WIRELESS router?02:41
joshAnderson99hi, any pointers as to how one might resolve a video driver problem (for ATI HD 5450)?  no mint driver for card apparently, and propietary driver says "card not supported" oddly.02:41
SonikkuAmerica!fglrx02:42
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto02:42
daftykinsjoshAnderson99: mint?02:42
jeffrey_fSchrodingersScat: If there are 4  LAN ports, it is an all in one router/modem02:42
SonikkuAmerica!mint02:42
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org02:42
SchrodingersScatdarkeyes: normally with port-forwarding, but it seemed like you said that wasn't an option.02:42
joshAnderson99yeah, just came from the mint channel on spotchat, but no comment there. and believe ubuntu is quite similar. but very new to linux.02:42
fishcookeri can see your point thankyou reisio02:42
fishcookerit works02:43
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joshAnderson99thanks ubottu, will have a look.  amazing, trying all the ATI catalyst packages, and they just dont recognise the card.02:43
daftykinsdarkeyes: if you have a modem only, the computer you have connected to it would be getting the internet-facing IP address.02:43
darkeyesSchrodingersScat: yes because there is no way to forward to my computer, since that that external IP is used by many other user02:44
darkeyesdaftykins: but when  check my ip on whatismyip.com it seems to be an external one02:44
econdudeawesomehowdy! Is there a command or way I can autokill a bash command after, say, 30 minutes? I'm running 30 ipython instances in parallel, and about 10% get hung (and I just want to autokill those)02:45
SchrodingersScatdarkeyes: then you're still limited to the options of a reverse ssh tunnel, vpn, etc.02:45
daftykinsdarkeyes: what IP do you have internally?02:45
darkeyesdaftykins: 10.135.134.11802:45
joshAnderson99do the ubuntu video drivers work on mint?02:46
darkeyesSchrodingersScat: so the only thing that I can do is get a router from the ISP02:46
econdudeawesomeah, the timeout gnu coreutil is precisely what I'm looking for02:47
SchrodingersScatdarkeyes: that's not what I'm saying, simply adding a router to your connection wouldn't help you much, you'd be splitting your already limited connection.  Unless direct access is something the ISP also offers.02:47
darkeyesSchrodingersScat: Ok so that's the word, direct access,02:48
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somsip!mint | joshAnderson9902:48
LiENUStrying to set empathy up with my facebook account, i add the account everything seems to go well then all of a sudden i see that  it can no longer access my online account02:48
ubottujoshAnderson99: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org02:48
sudomilkecondudeaweosome,: you could probably set up a cron job to kill the process after it runs for so long, but i wouldn't be much help in the scripting of it02:49
sudomilkecondudeawesome, rather02:49
joshAnderson99ok, ta02:49
LiENUSempathy says "facebook account requires authorization"02:50
joshAnderson99before i go, is ubuntu better than mint?02:50
joshAnderson99totally new to linux, from windows02:50
LiENUSjoshAnderson99, is chocolate better than vanilla?02:50
jeffrey_f2 line script needed in rsync: Need to sync (new and changed) one folder between my computer and a portable drive.  I want new and changed, but no deletes.02:50
daftykinsmmm chocolate02:51
joshAnderson99is mint better than lemongrass?  point taken.02:51
darkeyesSchrodingersScat: One last thing, so I could try asking to my ISP  for a direct access?02:51
somsipjoshAnderson99: you will probably get easier support for ubuntu. I understand mint offers some different desktops that ubuntu doesn't. Other than that, try both and make your own mind up02:51
LiENUSjoshAnderson99, chocolate makes me physically ill, though i like to eat a little from time to time, yet i've known many girls who would scarf down a whole pint of chocolate ice cream before they'd even look at vanilla02:51
LiENUSthe best thing for you to do is try both02:52
SchrodingersScatdarkeyes: it's worth a shot to ask if you can get a public IP with a router you can control.  I don't know your isp though.  otherwise, set up a vpn and it'll be like you're on your local network.02:52
reisiojoshAnderson99: hard to get lemon grass 'round here02:52
joshAnderson99so far the activity here, just the numbers, are ahead of those at mint chat.. but maybe can whip up some interest there.  free beers maybe.02:52
SchrodingersScatjoshAnderson99: http://freebeer.org/blog/02:52
joshAnderson99yeah, and with virtual box it's surprisingly painless to create new installs.  might do that. notice that google uses ubuntu.02:53
reisiojoshAnderson99: you talking about mint chat on freenode?02:53
darkeyesSchrodingersScat: Ok thanks for the help02:53
reisiogoogle uses lots of things02:53
LiENUSrofl i said that, decided i wanted a vanilla latte and went to make it, put my milk pitcher in the fridge to chill it and realized i have several jars of home made dulce de leche sitting there waiting for me, i guess i'm in a slackware mood tonight02:55
joshAnderson99SchrodingersScat: ideal, and i'm sure that would do the trick.02:55
reisioLiENUS: if only we could put all the nutrients a body needs into a coffee02:56
joshAnderson99reisio: not windows though apprently, or much, so seem to be in the right direction attempting to run linux, if only not this hardware issue. anyway, i should see if there's any comment in the appropriate mint section. thanks.02:56
yeiki am having a problem with updates - http://pastebin.com/X7KW8v7w anybody very good with dpkg and apt-get02:57
amir_Hello02:59
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Guest46541hello03:00
reisio'lo03:01
reisiojoshskidmore: yeah I shouldn't think they use Windows for much in the realm of servers03:01
reisiojoshskidmore: the official mint chat isn't on this network, is why I mentioned it03:02
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Learn2swim13Anyone familiar with RTMPDUMP and scripts on linux< i have a windows  script i cant seem to modify and run on linux.03:03
reisioLearn2swim13: might talk to #mplayer03:04
Learn2swim13Is that a person or another channel?03:05
reisiothe latter03:05
Learn2swim13then how will that help me? if idk who or what your talking about03:05
reisioLearn2swim13: because I know what you are talking about :)03:05
reisioso it was smart of you to ask in my presence03:06
Learn2swim13Um ok.03:06
Learn2swim13i still dont see how telling me ot talk to #mplayer is helpful03:06
EchoDevLearn2swim13 talk to #mplayer03:07
sudomilkhe is saying try a channel that might be of more help than typical ubuntu support03:07
Learn2swim13well people use mplayer to watch rtmpdump streams, my script has nothing to do with mplayer or watching atreams through a player03:08
reisioLearn2swim13: if it uses rtmpdump, it has something to do with mplayer03:10
cfhowlett!mplayer03:10
reisioit might be your problem is only to do with the script itself, in which case #bash might be more approriate, but I'm sure #mplayer can work that out, too03:10
Learn2swim13not really03:10
reisioyes really :p03:10
Learn2swim13my script is for downloading multiple streams to my hardrive. has nothing to do with mplayer03:11
reisioLearn2swim13: if it uses rtmpdump, it has something to do with mplayer03:11
Learn2swim13mmk.03:13
gdosadd "FollowSymLinks" as an option for your DocumentRoot03:15
gdosered, how do i add "FollowSymLinks" as an option for my DocumentRoot under apache2?03:15
reisiogdos: ask #httpd03:16
gdosok, thanks, reisio03:17
SchrodingersScatLearn2swim13: there's an #rtmpdump, last i checked03:19
Learn2swim13ill try that i guess03:19
Learn2swim13#rtmpdump = Dead Room03:21
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gdosreisio - it worked but not all links linked and the images on the webpages are only showing empty boxes, suggestions?03:24
reisiogdos: let's start over03:26
reisiogdos: you installed something?03:26
gdosyes. dhelp.03:26
gdoswhen run from the command line it opens up the following link which does not work: http://localhost/doc/HTML/index.html (instead the files are located in /usr/share/doc/HTML)03:27
gdosi'm thinking its more an issue with the dhelp installation.03:27
gdosi just un-installed (purged) and re-installed dhelp. same issues.03:28
reisiogdos: what do you run, exactly03:29
reisio'dhelp'?03:29
gdosdebian help browser03:30
reisiowhat command03:30
gdosto run it? dhelp. to install it? sudo apt-get install dhelp03:31
reisiowhat about file:///usr/share/doc/HTML/ ?03:31
gdosthat's fine. i can open that manually. but when i type dhelp from the command line, opens up my default browser and attempts to load http://localhost/doc/HTML/index.html03:32
reisiommm, that does sound like a bug03:32
gdosthe description in synaptic tells me if its not found under http://localhost/doc/HTML/index.html it will be found under /usr/share/doc/HTML which is annoying.03:34
reisiosounds like it's a low priority, then03:35
gdosbummer. i thought maybe by creating symbolic links from /usr/share/doc to /var/www/dhelp might've worked. it did. sorta.03:36
Dr_Willishmm. sounds like he needs to enable the followsymlinks then have a link in his /var/www  pointing doc to /usr/share/doc  ?03:36
reisioif he's even got apache installed and running03:37
Dr_Willisyep. that would be needed.03:37
gdosreisio: i do.03:37
gdosi used the following command you gave me: ln -s /usr/share/doc /var/www/something/doc03:38
donavan01how can I find out if sound card with  CMI8738 chipset is supportedIm thinking about buy one on ebay for 16$ but I want to make sure its supported03:38
Dr_Willisdonavan01:  google for the chipset and 'linux support' and see perhaps?  personally id check on amazon or some other store that has user reviews  for the same card and see if anyone mentions linux support for the card in question also.03:39
donavan01thanks dr_willis ... that was going to be what I tried but I wondered if there was a database that had that sort of thing on it03:40
Dr_Willisgdos:  im not sure you would want /var/www/somthing   just /var/www/doc pointing to  /usr/share/doc03:40
Dr_Willis!hcl03:40
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection03:40
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pradosi#backtrack03:44
Dr_Willis;)03:44
`Fibz`there is a broken link in an ubuntu wiki page i am trying to correct. when i click login, i am directed to the ubuntu-wiki homepage. when i navigate back to the page i want to edit, i have to click login again and start over in an endless loop.03:46
Dr_Willis`Fibz`:  i think theres a ubuntu-docs channel or ubuntu-wiki channel.   could be part of the changes they had to make a  month or so ago when the forums had a security breach.03:47
Dr_Willis!alis03:47
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*03:47
jrib`Fibz`: make sure you aren't blocking cookies?03:47
jrib`Fibz`: are you actually logging in at some point?03:48
`Fibz`yes03:48
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gdosDr_Willis & reisio: got it working. completely. at least for my system. i 'ln -s /usr/share/doc /var/www' and it works as it should. since this server won't see the light of day on the web i'm not too concerned about the particulars. but it works.04:14
reisiogj04:15
BlueProtomanWhen I plug in a flash drive, a Nautilus window with its contents appears.  How can I disable this?04:16
reisioBlueProtoman: kwazang! http://www.google.com/search?q=disable%20nautilus%20auto%20mount%20pop%20up04:17
BlueProtomanreisio: Ah, thank you.04:18
reisionp homie, dude man, home fry, home slice, amigo04:18
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`Fibz`i installed kde-plasma-standard and now when the main user logs into a KDE Plasma session, nautilus opens @ the home folder (nothing in the application auto-start) any ideas?04:21
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tigz4godis there a way to make irssi auto log into this chat when i open it04:22
reisioyup04:23
reisiotigz4god: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup#c304:23
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Dr_Williswow - it got quiet...04:49
AdBlocker_Thanks Dr_Willis: You broke the silence -_-04:50
AdBlocker_1, 2, 3 QUIET MOUSE!04:50
reisiomousse04:50
Dr_Willisthought i was lagged. :)  thats been hapening on my cellphone lately on freenode. end up just lagging for 10+ min. ;)04:50
* AdBlocker_ sighs04:50
fishcookerim on the max display resolution, but still the display is not sharp.. here is my hardware http://paste.ubuntu.com/6234522/04:50
Dr_Willisfishcooker:  using hdmi video?04:51
Dr_Willissharpest desktop images would be if you where using the native monitor res. not the max res.04:51
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fishcookerthis box' monitor integrated with the cpu in one box.. how to know, Dr_Willis?05:01
Dr_Willisfishcooker:  i recall the xandr tool can givve out wht the res is of the device05:01
Dr_Willisor i may be thinking of xvidtune05:01
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fishcookermy xrandr between 800x600 - 1024x76805:07
Dr_Willisso what res are you using?05:07
fishcookerif i look this file http://paste.ubuntu.com/6234557/ this intel vga card  there is no information05:08
fishcookeri mean to install its vga driver from intel Dr_Willis05:09
Dr_Willisintel has that 01.org site for tools for installing their latest drivers. (ive never used it) theres also some ppa's out with newer versions i recall.05:09
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Dr_Willisbut the res of the lcd screen wouldbe a feature of the screen, not normally a limit of the video card.05:10
Dr_Willisexcept for  the old days :) when we had puny little cards.05:10
fishcookerthis is touch screen monitor Dr_Willis05:10
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Dr_Williswouldent happen to have a 'HD' or "1080" or "720" sticker on it somewhere?05:11
Dr_WillisYou could alwys hit up google for system specs.05:11
Dr_WillisId think it would be a weird monitor these days thats not at least 720p  (unless its a netbook or somthing weird)05:12
fishcookeryes this weird box come from shenzhen :-) .. from what information i can get more info abt this hardware... dmesg info or lshw.. which section?05:13
tigz4godis there a command to auto change nickname on servers05:13
Dr_Willistigz4god:  most irc clients are scriptable. and can do all sorts of things.  many can have difernt settings for diffefnt irc networks.05:14
balajicsI am using ubuntu 12.10. My system gets hanged/freezed once or twice in a day. Sysrq also not working during freeze. How to find cause for this? Can I check any logs?05:14
tigz4godthanks Dr.05:14
Dr_Willisbalajics:  ssh in, monitor log files in real time. see what they say when it hangs - perhaps.05:14
Dr_Willisof course if you discover its just X freeinz - that would point to a video driver issue, or other video/X issue05:14
Dr_Willis!info hwinfo | fishcooker05:15
ubottufishcooker: hwinfo (source: hwinfo): Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 16.0-2.2 (raring), package size 17 kB, installed size 99 kB05:15
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balajics@Dr_Willis Thank you, I will do ssh and check about it. I have a doubt, If it is related to video driver, I hope sysrq will work, right? or Am I missing something?05:18
Dr_Willisif its only doing it rarely. its hard to say whats goin on with it. Unless you notice any other patterns05:18
balajics@Dr_Willis hmm ok Thank you :)05:20
randomusr_What's the path I should use to install user specific applications?05:23
buuHey, I'm trying to compile something using the standard ./Configure; make; fun times but its producing dynamic executables, anyone have an idea how to get it to produce static ones?05:23
randomusr_and subsequently, apps for all users?05:23
jmgkhi05:24
tigz4godguys05:27
tigz4godi think i love you all05:27
* cfhowlett_ ... blushes furiously ...05:28
Dr_Willisbuu:  i belive you need to give ./configure extra options. but ive never really wanted to make static binaries befor.05:32
Dr_Willisthey just get to huge. ;)05:32
buuDr_Willis: Found it =]05:32
Dr_Willisi need to learn to cross compile for my raspberry pi someday05:32
jmgkDr_Willis: Do you sing the ubuntu song05:33
jmgk:)05:33
* Dr_Willis jams to Kenny G.05:36
* cfhowlett_ didn't know we HAD an ubuntu song!05:36
hp_ as a newbie linux user .. what are the best online educational resources to learn from?  books,articles or videos   ty05:37
Dr_WillisI tend to look at what gets the most votes/hits on delicious.com - but i havent looked there for ages.05:38
xtrizi just got the source packaged of vlc , how can i compile it ?05:38
Dr_Williswhy do you want to? ;)05:39
jmgkwho's Kenny G Dr_Willis05:39
jmgk?05:39
Dr_Willisjmgk:  Blasphmy! ;)05:39
cfhowlett_!compile|xtriz,05:39
ubottuxtriz,: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall05:39
Dr_Willisxtriz:  sudo apt-get build-dep vlc          should pull in all needed dependencies to compile somthing. then its a matter of compileig the source acording to the directions the developers provide05:40
cfhowlett_jmgk, he's a guy I went to school with who, inexplicably, became world-famous for polite-company inoffensive "jazz" music.05:40
jmgkoh05:41
Dr_WillisJamms to with the Saxaphone. ;)05:41
jmgkwow05:41
jmgkYou went to school with Kenny G05:41
jmgkDo you talk to him?05:41
cfhowlett_jmgk, true05:41
cfhowlett_jmgk, played in the school band with him05:41
jmgkwow05:41
cfhowlett_me remembers annnnnnnnnnd we're off-topic05:42
jmgkHe was on Foster the people song I was listening too05:42
jmgklol05:42
cfhowlett_ot is offtopic05:42
Ari-Yang!offtopic05:42
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:42
xtrizcfhowlett_, and Dr_Willis ok :)05:42
Dr_Willisxtriz:  there are normally PPA's with newer reelases of vlc i belive.05:42
Dr_Willisxtriz:  it can be quiet a bear to compile i recall.05:43
Ari-Yangxtriz: I recommend mplayer or any of its forks over VLC...05:44
xtrizDr_Willis, cool, let me try to compile if something goes bad, than will get the ppa, this is my first compile .05:44
xtrizAri-Yang, mpalyer let me check it out.05:45
Ari-Yangxtriz: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build this player... there are instructions on how to install it on ubuntu at the bottom of the page05:45
hp_ as a newbie linux user .. what are the best online educational resources to learn from?  books,articles or videos   ty05:45
xtrizAri-Yang, nice05:46
cfhowlett_!manual|hp_,  and "learn from" is too imprecise.  We learn by doing.  Choose a project.  Research and do it.05:46
ubottuhp_,  and "learn from" is too imprecise.  We learn by doing.  Choose a project.  Research and do it.: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/05:46
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Ari-Yang[01:46:10] <xtriz> Ari-Yang, nice ---> what? you like it?05:53
Ari-Yangmpv?05:53
xtrizAri-Yang, this whole thing looks nice05:54
Ari-Yangxtriz: so you're going to install it?05:54
xtrizyeah giving a try05:54
XATRIXHi guys, i could find an interrestning thing05:55
XATRIXI opened my terminal + htop05:55
ionutica-99yes what interessting thing05:55
XATRIXAnd mark the CPU load05:55
Ari-Yangxtriz: okay, you launch it with terminal. or you can make a .desktop file and have it do it for you05:55
XATRIXThen i quickly move my mouse around my desktop...05:55
XATRIXCPU load rised up to 30%05:56
XATRIXIdle CPU load was over ~5-7 %05:56
XATRIXDo we have software cursor or what the hell is it ?05:56
XATRIXMouse pointer causes CPU load ?05:56
xtrizAri-Yang, ok , reading out the instructions right now.05:56
Ari-Yangnice~05:56
Ari-Yanggood luck05:56
Ari-Yanggoing afk05:56
Dr_Williseverything causes cpu load. ;) unless the gpu is handleing it.05:56
Ari-Yangxtriz: if you want user support join #mpv-player05:57
xtrizAri-Yang, thanks :)05:57
Ari-Yangthough it might be dead at this time...05:57
Ari-Yangyou're welcome~05:57
xtriz:)05:57
XATRIXI have Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller05:57
XATRIXYes, it's crap. But!!!05:57
Dr_WillisXATRIX:  you got a netbook?05:58
XATRIXSure05:58
Dr_Willisbeen using xubuntu on my EEEpc lately. seems to work very well05:58
XATRIXThere's X /usr/lib/X :0 -core ... process running05:59
Abator hi, some predefined rules are shown under gufw but those are are not shown with ufw status numbered. can someone tell me difference?05:59
XATRIXactually it doesn't provide me any complexities. but it unusual05:59
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Dr_Willisconky dosent show my cpu load changeing at all when i mouse about06:01
Abatormy question is about firewall if someone can answer06:02
Dr_Willisif anyone knows they will answer normally.06:03
Dr_WillisI dont use the firewall stuff.06:03
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Dr_WillisXATRIX:  i cant repeate your test case. Htop dosent seem to care about my mouse moveing about06:03
Dr_WillisXATRIX: but i am useign xubuntu, not unity/compiz06:03
xtrizDr_Willis, when i am removing a package how can i remove it such that all it's dependecies also get removed ?06:05
md70audio is working in headphone mode only .. how to force external speakers to work?06:05
Dr_Williscant say ive really notced a command to do that. because its very likely other packages may also depend on parts of it. if you remove stuff and some things are no longer needed 'sudo apt-get autoremove' will clean them out06:06
kingnick42Abator, what was your question?06:06
Dr_Willisapt will tell you if theres packages tht can be auto-removed06:06
xtrizmd70, check alsamixer  whether the sound  is mute or not06:06
AbatorDr_Willis: i am sure a lot of apps silently make connecion to their servers and some download updated regularly , that is i think a not good for my limited internet bandwidth06:06
xtrizDr_Willis, simply i have to do apt-get remove name_of_software ?06:06
xtrizAbator, they never download automatically they just notify you, and sometime you can manage the behaviour through settings.06:07
Dr_WillisAbator:  Hmm..  what apps?   i rarely see linux aps that   connect back to their home base to notify the user of updates.06:07
Dr_WillisI can only think of a few.06:07
Dr_Willisxtriz:  thats all i normally do.06:07
xtrizDr_Willis, ok06:07
Dr_Willisi noticed the owncloud client told me theres a newer version at the owncloud homepage. and thats about ll ive seen notify me of newer versions in ages.06:08
tcatsunentHow viable is it to have a hybrid network running linux servers while keeping windows for the end users06:08
tcatsunent i would really like the stability and reliability that linux can provide. But our company does use exchange, AD, financial06:08
Dr_Willistcatsunent:  id think thats rather common.06:08
tcatsunent                    software, among others that need to be run on windows06:08
Dr_WillisI know chrysler has linux servers, and windows machines on the floor of the factories06:09
Abatorthere are many kings on Tab... thanks for asking. i see few rules when i use gufw but when i use the ufw status numbered command then i see no rule defined. look like there are 2 firewlls on my mint. i was in the impression that same list of rules will be shown both ways06:09
tcatsunentI'm not sure I could convince my company to switch anyways but I have read that it ultimately saves companies a lot of money as well06:10
tcatsunentMakes sense of course, linux vs windows06:10
tcatsunentThe main problem I would see is the AD Exchange server06:11
tcatsunentHas anyone here done this?06:11
Abatoryou are may be right. i installed mint yesterday and i was using win7 before.06:11
Dr_Willismint isent ubuntu, has its own support channels. and we really dont know what all mint does. ;)06:11
xmetaltrue but like i said many of the issues one of the two OS's has, i think the other does too06:12
Abatori thought mint was based on ubuntu06:12
xmetal* Think being the keyword06:12
bazhang!mintsupport | Abator06:12
ubottuAbator: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org06:12
Dr_Willisits based on ubuntu.. dosent mean its supported here.06:13
Dr_Willisubuntu is based on debian. :) but dont ask for ubuntu support in #debian06:13
SauvinI've heard there's also a directly Debian-based Mint, but I've never seen it.06:13
xmetali ask for Linux (general) support in #Windows06:13
xmetal:P06:13
Abatoroh, but gufw and ufw are from ubuntu06:13
xmetalj/k06:13
Dr_Willisand they use iptables as the backend.06:14
Abatorhmmm, okay06:14
Dr_Willissudo iptables --list   should show all rules06:14
Abatorah there is the good thing you told now\06:14
tcatsunentWould I have to have a windows server for the exchange and AD or is there another option?06:14
Dr_Willis!firewall06:15
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo06:15
Abatorubottu: thanks for the links06:16
ubottuAbator: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:16
Abatorwow06:16
reisiotcatsunent: that depends on if you want an actual alternative, or a 3rd party implementation of something Microsoft controls06:17
reisiothe former is a reasonable pursuit, the latter is not, whether it exists or not06:17
penguinmanAbator, yeah, didn't you know canonical was doing AI research?06:17
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Dr_Willisubottu is actually skynet .000106:18
ubottuDr_Willis: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:18
AbatorAI research?06:18
Dr_Willissure youre not..... sure....06:18
Abatorpenguinman: what is AI research?06:19
reisioAbator: artificial intelligence?06:19
penguinmanAbator, never mind. was a joke.06:19
Abator:)06:19
* xmetal runs out of room through door (not opening it first) screaming at the roombot being Skynet06:19
Dr_Willisxmetal:  too late..  its allready in your head.06:20
Abatorwow06:20
sujxDuring ubuntu startup, can I  hide the menu, and only show the background image?06:24
reisiosujx: which menu?06:24
sujxgrub2 boot menu06:25
penguinmanit should hide automatically unless you're dual booting06:25
Dr_Willisits best to keep the grub menu where you can see it. :) not like you see it for a long time06:26
Dr_Willisand you can set it to only show for a second or 206:26
xmetalor you add kernels06:27
penguinmanor if you REALLY want to hide it you can set the timeout to 006:27
reisiowhy're you rebooting anyways :p06:27
penguinmanmaybe he has a laptop?06:27
reisioit's the 21st century06:27
reisiopenguinman: even more of a reason to not reboot06:28
reisiothey come with batteries, even06:28
Dr_Williseven my netbook boots to the desktop in like.  30 sec. ;)06:28
reisioeven?06:28
reisionetbooks should boot faster06:28
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sujxif i set the timeout=0 , it will not show my background image06:28
Dr_Willisssd desktop boots in like 15 ;)06:28
penguinmanreisio, meh, mine still won't suspend properly. also I use full disk encryption so it's a security thing with me.06:28
reisio15, sheesh06:28
Dr_Willissujx:  why does it really matter if you see anything at boot time?06:29
reisiopenguinman: how is it a security thing?06:29
Dr_Willisits handy to have easy access to the grub menu  when things go wrongly06:29
penguinmanso someone just coming along has to enter the password to decrypt the drive as well as the login password.06:29
reisiopenguinman: oh you mean being powered off is06:30
AbatorSauvin: there is debian mint that i did not download t make boootable usb06:30
penguinmanreisio, yup06:30
reisiopenguinman: that's not much more defense, but eh06:30
penguinmanit is if someone nicks my laptop :)06:30
* Dr_Willis ties his laptop around the neck of his attack pomerianian.06:31
reisiopenguinman: it isn't though06:31
sujxmy boss does not like the purple scree when ubuntu startup06:31
reisiobesides, serious data thieves aren't silly enough to steal hardware when they can just get the data06:31
penguinmansujx, you can turn it off and just get the text output06:31
Dr_Willis!text | sujx06:32
ubottusujx: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode06:32
Abatorwhy ubuntu is all orange color?06:32
Dr_WillisAbator:  it used to be all 'brownish' for a 'natural/earthy' look06:32
penguinmanAbator, it used to be a lot more orange than it is now. Tradition I guess06:32
sujxthank you~~~06:33
Abatoryeh, old ubuntu was brown. i di dnot like orange thats why got mint but really im new to linux06:33
cfhowlett_Abator, things change ...06:33
penguinmanAbator, you can also change the theme pretty easily these days.06:34
reisioorange + purple = still brown06:34
Dr_Willisits trival to change the colors. :)06:34
Abatorpenguinman: i thought color had special meanings but forgot that old was brown06:35
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Dr_WillisThe panel sort of auto-changes color based on your wallpaper also06:35
penguinmanreisio, yeah, a good blueish or gray theme would be nice. plus the default terminal colors are horid.06:35
Abatoroh, thats nice thing06:35
Dr_WillisI alwyas use terminator ;)06:36
Abatorwow06:36
jmgkDr_Willis: what are your views on Ubuntu phone06:36
jmgk?06:36
jmgk:P06:36
jmgkI like the concept06:36
reisiopenguinman: so change'm06:36
penguinmanAbator, you might want to check out gnome-look.org. a lot of good gtk themes on there. Elementary, Flat Studio, and Boje are some of my favorites.06:36
Dr_Willisjmgk:  i will belive it when i see it comeing from fedex and in my little hands...06:36
jmgkah06:37
penguinmanreisio, first thing I usually do on a fresh install06:37
jmgkhehe06:37
reisiopenguinman: like06:37
reisiopenguinman: a baws06:37
Dr_WillisAbator:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites have some ppa's with the 'top themes' also06:37
penguinmanreisio, then again, I am running gnome 3.10 these days, so not a huge deal anymore.06:37
helmut_hi06:41
jmgkGreetings helgikrs06:41
jmgkerm06:41
jmgkhelmut_:06:41
penguinmanalso, does anyone in here have experience getting suspend to work on laptops with radeon cards?06:44
Abatorim not sure but i think ubuntu is on tablets also. those tablets are available in market?06:44
penguinmanAbator, not preinstalled, but you can put ubuntu touch on some commercially available ones06:45
Abatorlike ipad?06:45
reisiohttp://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/06:45
reisioyou can probably find preinstalled, too06:45
Abatorpenguinman: i can install ubuntu on ipad or it will go on android based tablets only?06:46
penguinmanAbator, i doubt you can put it on ipads since their bootloaders are locked down like fort knox, but I know you can on nexus tablets.06:46
penguinmanAbator, probably kindles as well but don't quote me on that.06:46
Abatormutitasking is really nice thing to experience06:47
reisioAbator: most tablets, regardless of what OS comes on them, have secure boot issues06:47
reisionot all of them, however06:47
reisioironically one of the tablets easiest to install GNU/Linux on would be Microsoft's Surface Pro06:47
penguinmanreisio, probably could even put desktop ubuntu on an x86 tablet. I know there's a couple out there.06:47
Abatoryes, there are certainly issues with compatibility06:48
reisiowell, yes, desktop doesn't mean "on a desk" any more06:48
reisioit means "not a server or 'workstation'"06:48
reisiowhich is most situations06:48
penguinmanmeh, I still prefer netbooks to tablets anyway. I like having an actual keyboard.06:49
Abatorohh06:49
reisioyou can connect a keyboard to most tablets06:49
reisioa lot even come with keyboards that detach06:49
Abatori go completely opposite way06:49
reisioor offer an optional keyboard06:49
* gordonjcp has a tablet case with a rubber key Spectrum-like keyboard06:50
Abatori like no specific place to sit and a flex keyboard in my pocket06:50
penguinmanreisio, almost read that as optical keyboard.06:50
gordonjcpI'd like a laptop in the same sort of form factor as the 25-year-old Toshiba T1100 I use at work06:50
gordonjcpwith a big clicky keyboard with full-size keys06:50
Abator:)06:50
penguinmani've been considering getting one of the samsung chromebooks recently. I know for a fact you can put actual linux on those.06:51
penguinmaneither that or a pi rigged to a phone docking station.06:52
adeligenpenguinman: Those are really nice for the price06:52
Abatorin fact im trying to setup linux and ipad work togather like i was using win7 the same way06:53
penguinmanadeligen, especially with the ssd they have installed.06:53
Abatori was using teamviewer on ad hoc wifi\06:53
Abatorskype, teamviewer like apps are risky thats why i want firewall fixed first06:54
penguinmanwould also be nice to not have to lug around a $1k portable desktop anytime I go somewhere.06:55
Abatori want to use ipad to control my linux06:55
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Abatorubuntu or mint is no big difference because im going to develop app for android06:56
reisiomake a webUI06:57
reisiodone06:57
penguinmanAbator, true. same backend for all intents and purposes.06:57
XATRIXDr_Willis: i'm using XFCE without any compiz/whatever else. But my processor goes up when i move my mouse06:57
reisioshould it go down06:57
Abatorthanks for the theme links. i will check those in free time.06:59
MosecoIm running Ubuntu 13.04 on 1 drive adn windows 8.1 on another drive. (installed ubuntu then windows). When i run boot repair then boot into grub and try to select windows it says file not found. Anyone know how to fix this?07:00
penguinmanMoseco, try booting into ubuntu and running update-grub07:01
wilee-nileeMoseco, you save the bootinfo summary from the boot repair?07:02
RoryWhy does it often take a few minutes, or a reboot, for newly installed applications to become searchable in Unity's dash? [13.04]07:02
reisioRory: probably only takes a logout & in :)07:02
penguinmanRory, it has to rebuild the cache.07:02
reisioyou could probably just end the process of the dash and restart it07:03
Mosecowilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6225189/07:03
pranavi used to use foxit reader in windows, it was very efficient in terms of searching texts from even scanned documents. now, document viewer is very poor. please suggest an alternative which can assist me in this in ubuntu 12.04 ?07:03
reisiopranav: how's it poor?07:04
pranavreisio: didn't i tell already. it wont even search words from a well scanned documents.07:04
reisiopranav: you could use foxit via Wine if you wanted07:04
Mosecopenguinman: what will this do exactly?07:04
reisiopranav: sure it will07:04
reisioI find words via evince all the time07:04
pranavyup.. it is lightweight thats it.07:05
reisiohrmm?07:05
penguinmanMoseco, will search for bootable partitions and update grub accordingly07:07
Mosecowilee-nilee: i undid the boot-reapir after it didnt work to boot into windows (restore mbr in boot repair). Thought id add that if its needed info07:07
Mosecopenguinman: dpes boot-reapir not do this on its own, or does it only insert itself into windows boot manager?07:07
xtrizi am about to buy a static ip from my service provider, should i buy serivces from no-ip, dyndns or i should get the static ip ? the cost is almost the same.07:08
penguinmanMoseco, actually, grub doesn't do anything with the windows bootloader except chainload into it.07:08
Mosecopenguinman: okay, thanks, ill try it07:08
wilee-nileeMoseco, I'm not real up on uefi, however you have gpt on sda and sdb but sdc where ubuntu is msdos and the bootloader is in the mbr of sdc, not sure really, whem all are gpt the ubuntu bootloader goes in a boot partition, the bios is different with these gpt released computers07:09
reisioxtriz: the only reason you'd need a static ip is for ssl07:09
wilee-nileewhen+07:09
penguinmanMoseco, worst case you can edit grub.conf manually and point it at the windows partition.07:09
Rorypenguinman: Is there a way to get apt to do this automatically after install? Or a reason it was decided not to do this?07:09
xtrizreisio, i want to run file server such that i can access it from my college.07:09
wilee-nileeMoseco, as suggested a update-grub is worth a try, but I see kernel updates in the script so it should be in the boot menu already.07:10
reisioxtriz: dyndns or no-ip should cover that07:11
Mosecowilee-nilee: Okay, ill try the update-grub and see if it works, if not ill do some googling for the problem. Thanks!07:11
reisioxtriz: or any free service07:11
penguinmanRory, the way the dash works from what I can tell is it searches for .desktop files and updates it's cache every so often. One way you can force it to recoignize it is to install from the software center or the dash itself.07:11
Rorypenguinman: Ahh, OK I'll use Software Centre in future if that's an option. Thanks. Do you know if using software centre to install a .deb (as opposed to dpkg -i) will also update the cache?07:12
geektech713ya07:13
DzAirmaXhey all07:13
reisiolike I said, you can probably just log out & back in, or kill & restart the process of the dash07:13
penguinmani imagine it would. when I was still using unity I'd always install from the applications lens directly.07:13
geektech713can install any .deb program on ubuntu is debian too07:13
reisiohey DzAirmaX07:13
ikoniageektech713: no07:13
xtrizreisio, ok07:13
geektech713works for me07:14
geektech713from skype and others07:14
reisioikonia: well if it has no deps to speak of :p07:14
penguinmangeektech713, most of those are also designed with ubuntu in mind.07:14
ikoniageektech713: there will be very sprcific ones, such as skype that are targeted across platforms, but as a general rule of thumb, "no"07:14
DzAirmaXcan someone tells me the right / ownership on the /var/run/motd & /var/run/motd.dynamic files plz ?07:14
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RoryDzAirmaX: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139 Oct 14 07:39 /var/run/motd07:15
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RoryDzAirmaX: The other file does not exist on my machine07:15
ashu11ls -lart /var/run/motd07:15
ashu11-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 373 2013-10-06 16:24 /var/run/motd07:15
geektech713can always download wine /playonlinux too07:16
RoryYep DzAirmaX two of us both ahve root:root 64407:16
DzAirmaXthank you guyz07:16
DaemonicApathyashu11: You should really check your time settings...07:16
RoryDaemonicApathy: Why? That's the file creation time07:17
DaemonicApathyAh, of course. Its late for me. -_-07:17
chefsfirang07:17
ashu11np07:18
DzAirmaXRory & ashu11 : do you have a /etc/motd on your system ?07:20
RoryDzAirmaX: no, Ubuntu uses /etc/update-motd.d07:20
RoryDzAirmaX: Files in that directory are concatenated in order07:20
ashu11lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2013-10-02 22:45 /etc/motd -> /var/run/motd07:20
DzAirmaXRory : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man5/update-motd.5.html07:20
DzAirmaXOn   Ubuntu   systems,  /etc/motd  is  typically  a  symbolic  link  to  /var/run/motd.07:21
Rorycat: /etc/motd: No such file or directory07:21
DzAirmaXfrome the man, but on y msystem I dont have it07:21
ashu11yes DzAirmaX07:21
RoryMust be version dependant07:21
strkman find -- gives me npm-search -- Search for packages07:21
strk?!07:21
Rory!details | strk07:22
ubottustrk: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."07:22
RoryDzAirmaX: If you want to change the motd, edit files in the /etc/update-motd.d/ directory07:22
strkRory: I run "man find" and I get the man page for npm-serach(1)07:22
Rorystrk: what about "man 1 find"07:22
DzAirmaXRory : I dont understand, the motd doesnt update itself on each session, I got always like 2 sessions decalage for the refresh of the update-motd.d07:23
Dr_Willisi  get the find man page for man find here,07:23
Dr_Willis!find npm-search07:23
ubottuFile npm-search found in npm07:23
strkRory: same thing NPM-SEARCH(1)                                                                                                 NPM-SEARCH(1)07:23
ashu11i have to run apache server at system logon, without any user login, where can i add the command ?07:24
Dr_Willis!info npm07:24
ubottunpm (source: npm): package manager for Node.js. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.4~dfsg-2 (raring), package size 334 kB, installed size 1092 kB07:24
Dr_Willisashu11:  if you add the apache2 service - it does auto start at system boot07:24
strkPackage `npm' is not installed. ( I installed manually )07:24
strkso maybe the upstream npm installer messes up with find(1) ?07:24
Dr_Willisashu11:  installing apache2 here does it automatically07:24
Dr_Willis!lamp07:25
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.07:25
ashu11Dr_Willis, how to add the service, i have apache 2 installed already, but i need to run it manually after root login07:25
Dr_Willisashu11:  err... by default its setup to run at system boot. theres no need for any user to login07:25
ashu11i mean , right not i do it manually but i want to run it automatically at system on.07:26
Dr_Willisashu11:  what  ubuntu release are you using?07:26
ashu11now**07:26
Dr_Willisashu11:  again. by default it should be auto starting if you installed it properly07:26
ashu11i am using backtrack 5 r3, ubuntu based07:26
aeon-ltdashu11: well go to that chan07:27
Dr_Willisashu11:  thats not ubuntu. and you should be seeing the backtrack support channels07:27
Dr_Willisashu11:  and really backtrack is not a 'server' focused Disrto.07:27
ashu11okay, thanks07:27
penguinmanashu11, ahhh, most likely you need to add it to init.d07:27
ashu11thanks penguinman , i ll check it.07:27
DzAirmaXrory : you have an idea why it dosnt update properly ?07:28
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DzAirmaXRory : I also notice the file was empty at first login ...07:28
DzAirmaXRory : I need to log twice for have the motd :O07:28
RoryDzAirmaX: Read this info http://askubuntu.com/questions/105689/how-is-etc-motd-updated07:28
penguinmanashu11, also, you may want to check out kali linux. basically an updated backtrack07:28
Dr_Willisi just do a 'touch .hushlogin' and i never see the MOTD. ;)07:29
RoryDr_Willis: That's a neat trick, remembered07:29
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Dr_WillisRory:  old skool linux/unix ;)07:29
rymate1234I like my mots07:29
ashu11ok, thanks penguinman07:29
rymate1234*motd07:29
rymate1234:<07:29
penguinmanDr_Willis, wow, can't remember the last time I actually used touch for anything.07:29
Dr_Williscowsay $(fortune) --> best motd. ;)07:30
reisiorfksay!07:30
Dr_Willispenguinman:   its used to make empty files or set the date. :)07:30
penguinmanDr_Willis, oh, i know what it's used for, just been forever since I used it.07:31
* penguinman harkens back to his slackware days07:31
reisioharken?!07:31
DzAirmaXRory : I read that already, it supposed to work @ every loggin and it dosnt, that's why I come ask you guyz :)07:31
RoryDzAirmaX: Ah, I don't know then, not really used it much. Can you clarify your Ubuntu version?07:32
DzAirmaXRory : 13.1007:32
RoryDzAirmaX: Support in #ubuntu+107:32
DzAirmaXok thank you sir07:32
DzAirmaXhave a nice day07:32
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Mosecopenguinman: I tried update-grub and i have the same error. on boot and try to select windows: file not found. I can boot into ubuntu fine. Do you know of anything i can do to fix this?07:33
Dr_WillisMoseco:  what file is it saying is not found?07:33
penguinmanMoseco, short of manually editing grub.conf, not sure07:33
xmetal?? SuperGrubCD or Ra.. oh heck i forgot how to spell it again07:34
xmetal??07:34
penguinmanDr_Willis, he's having issues with dual booting with win807:34
penguinmanfor some reason grub isn't picking up the efi/boot partition.07:34
* Dr_Willis runs away from windows 8.07:35
penguinmanafaik the boot process is identical to win 707:35
kalakjhi all07:35
kalakji am having a strange problem07:35
penguinmanexcept in this case there's efi happiness thrown in07:35
kalakji am not able to add new user to my laptop07:36
MosecoDr_Willis: I have 2 files in grub:  Windows uefi bkpbootmgfw.efi and windows boot uefi loader When i try to select either it says file not found. I have used boot-repair (here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/6234854/07:36
kalakjwhen i tried command line, i got following error07:36
kalakjAdding user `user1' ...07:36
kalakjAdding new group `user1' (1001) ...07:36
kalakjAdding new user `user1' (1001) with group `user1' ...07:36
kalakjCreating home directory `/home/user1' ...07:36
kalakjCopying files from `/etc/skel' ...07:36
FloodBot1kalakj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:36
kalakjStopped: Cannot deal with /etc/skel/./.local/share/BitDefender-scanner/.commsock.07:36
xmetalack07:36
xmetalwhat was that07:36
ashu11is there any forum for ubuntu for arm based devices, i wanna know if there is any distro that i can install on my galaxy tab 2 7"07:37
compdocon one computer, nautilus sorts folders and files differently than it does on another pc. very frustrating. can it be fixed?07:37
Dr_Williskalakj:  youve modified your /etc/skel? Look in there to see if thers  some weird paths07:37
penguinmanxmetal, someone not knowing how to use a pastebin07:37
xmetal!pastebin07:37
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:37
xmetalSkynet hates me :(07:37
Dr_Willisgotta love a 6 line paste.. when the actual error is on one line. ;)07:37
xmetaloh n/m there it goes :)07:37
Mosecopenguinman: i sent a message that was to dr_wills if you look for it you can see more information about my problem. exact file name/pastebin from boot-repair07:38
kalakjDr_Willis: I used remastersys, i haven't modified anything07:38
Dr_Williskalakj:  Look in /etc/skel and prove that statement07:38
Dr_Williskalakj:  it seems to be seeing some sort of odd link in /etc/skel07:38
kalakjDr_Willis: i looked the directory but there is no file or folder with .07:39
kalakji mean a file named .07:39
Dr_Williskalakj:  ls -al dosent show anything?07:39
penguinmanMoseco, yeah, was looking. think I found the issue. look on line 469. grub isn't able to read the drive.07:39
kalakjokay, problem solved07:40
kalakjuninstalled Bit-defender and deleted the whole bit-defender scanner folder07:40
kalakjthanks07:41
SecretFireis there a way to get out of software rendering mode?07:41
Mosecopenguinman: the dev/sda is the disk with windows 8.1. is there a way to get around this?07:41
xmetaleh?07:41
penguinmanMoseco, not sure off the top of my head. windows isn't exactly my area of expertise.07:41
wilee-nileeSecretFire, you mean to a command line?07:42
wilee-nileeMoseco, I noticed that sda1 does not have a boot flag as I looked at the script again, you can put one there with gparted and see if the update-grub picks up windows.07:43
Dr_Willisseems odd the boot flag would vanish07:44
sujxUnable to boot from grub, "error: unknown command gfxmode.. how can i solve it07:45
Mosecowilee-nilee: im looking at gparted right now and in dev/sda1 it says under the section flag there is "boot" Is this not the same?07:45
Dr_Willissujx:  sounds like your grub config is goofed up?07:45
Mosecopenguinman: Okay, thanks for the help. If you can think of something, let me know!07:45
wilee-nileeMoseco, far right column or the label?07:45
Mosecowilee-nilee: yes. I used boot-repair again, if you didnt see the new pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6234854/07:46
Mosecowilee-nilee: was unclear, far right column for sda1 says boot07:46
itsbalamuralihi07:47
reisiohi07:47
wilee-nileeMoseco, If your sure, its just a guess on this, windows generally need a boot flag that means an active partition in windows, you can right click sda1 and make sure.07:47
wilee-nileeMoseco, I don't see the script showing it with a flag, but the script has limitations with reading gpt I believe07:48
penguinmanMoseco, ok, here's a link to some things you can try to get it working (manual editing of grub.conf required.) it's from the archwiki so it's not super user friendly but it should at least get you pointed in the right direction: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#With_Windows_Installed_in_UEFI-GPT_Mode07:49
Mosecowilee-nilee: I right clicked on sda1 and selected information, and it says in one of the rows flags: boot07:50
wilee-nileeMoseco, cool07:50
Mosecopenguinman: Thanks. Worst comes to worst. ill use boot-reapri to restore the mbr and then just select linux to boot manually whne i want to use it.07:50
itsbalamuraliha god whats this IRC thing this doesn't look good07:50
reisioikr07:51
Dr_Willisitsbalamurali:  irc has been around for decades07:51
reisiounlike many other things most people are new to07:51
itsbalamuralibut interface is not so friendly07:51
reisiothe webUI is alright07:51
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reisioif you want something better try xchat07:52
Dr_Willisitsbalamurali:  err.. theres dozens and dozens of diffefnt irc clients07:52
Dr_Willis!irc | itsbalamurali07:52
ubottuitsbalamurali: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines07:52
itsbalamuraliok07:52
itsbalamuralithanks07:52
penguinmanif you don't mind qt apps, quassel is god like as far as irc clients go.07:52
itsbalamuraliwhere can i get this xchat07:52
Mosecowilee-nilee: i got a link from penguinman about manually editing the grub.conf Im going t take  a look at that. If you think of something let m know07:53
Dr_Willisitsbalamurali:  its in the software center07:53
k1l!xchat | itsbalamurali07:53
ubottuitsbalamurali: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines07:53
itsbalamuraliok i will try07:53
Dr_Willis!info xchat07:53
ubottuxchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.8-7ubuntu2 (raring), package size 348 kB, installed size 891 kB07:53
Dr_Willisitsbalamurali:  'sudo apt-get install xchat' will also install xcaht07:54
Mosecopenguinman: where is the grub.conf file? i am in /boot/grub but cant find a file called grub.conf07:54
reisioit's not that fundamentally different, from a UI perspective, but it'll blend into the GUI better07:54
penguinmanitsbalamurali, yes, you've stumbled upon the secret hacker world of irc. it's how all the super leet hax0rs communicate. :)07:54
wilee-nileeMoseco, never know a custom grub entry may work, I would also consider the ubuntu forums as well the author of the bootrepair app is on their regularly, and a mod who is quite good in this area, and other uefi users.07:54
Mosecowilee-nilee: Thank you.07:55
wilee-nileeI would want update-grub to work if it were me07:55
penguinmanMoseco, ah, ubuntu has it as grub.cfg07:55
Mosecopenguinman: found it, thanks.07:56
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penguinmanok, well I'm out for the evening. you folks take care.07:56
krzisnt 13.10 supposed to be out?07:57
Dr_Williskrz:  no07:58
Dr_Willis!release07:58
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases07:58
Dr_Willis!schedule07:58
ubottuA schedule of Saucy Salamander (13.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule07:58
k1l!saucy | krz07:58
ubottukrz: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.07:58
Dr_Willisassuming theres no delays. ;)08:02
ashu11:)08:05
it-guymoin08:05
Uraganhi all!08:05
it-guyhi Uragan08:06
Uraganned your help guys!08:06
hitsujiTMO!ask | uragan08:07
ubottuuragan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:07
k1l!details | Uragan08:07
ubottuUragan: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."08:07
zwamkatCrew, I'm running an interactive cli php script. When I use the backspace to correct a typo it shows the ^H. Regular shell (bash) handles all characters just fine. Any suggestions?08:07
Uragani`m using ubuntu 12.04, and need to connect monitor with S-video output (video card Radeon 2400 HD)08:07
auronandace!dash | zwamkat08:07
ubottuzwamkat: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash08:07
Uraganbut on command xrandr i don`t have S-video line, only DIN, DVI-0 and DVI-108:08
zwamkatauronandace: But it's a php script.08:08
auronandacezwamkat: any reason you're not using a bash script?08:09
Uraganwhy i don`t have s-video? when i try to xrandr --addmode S-video 1024x768 xrandr can`t find S-voideo output.  But i have it on my video card08:09
zwamkatauronandace: Yes, it's part of a open source package. ISPConfig. Script is fine. I just need the php prompt to handle te characters correctly.08:10
auronandacezwamkat: perhaps a php channel can help you with that08:11
Uragan!ask08:12
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:12
wilee-nileeUragan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/SVideo08:12
zwamkatauronandace: right, 'cause I already reconfigured dash: dpkg-reconfigure dash08:12
* Uragan slaps wilee-nilee around a bit with a large trout08:13
Uragansorry08:13
Uraganwilee-nilee, ubuntu 12/04 don`t have xorg.conf08:13
wilee-nileethis from a user who misspells all over the post, lol08:14
minimecUragan: Try the DIN port.08:16
Uraganminimec, try to pui it in /etc/default/grub  like this "video=DIN:1024x768e" no profit ((08:20
osiAttention, j'ai "foiré" une tentative d'utilisation en ligne de commande de la nouvelle liste citi-robots .. !08:21
fidel!fr | osi08:21
ubottuosi: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.08:21
Uraganhave any more help with S-video output ?08:23
minimecUragan: 'Check' your mode on console with 'gtf 1024 768 60' (<-- 60 = Freq), then 'xrandr --newmode "result of the gtf command", then 'xrandr --addmode DIN 1024x768_60'08:24
tcatsunentWhen ijust booted my laptop i saw grub rescue. can i just use a live cd to boot up and fix the issue?08:26
deegoyes08:27
wilee-nileetcatsunent, This was a working install previously?08:27
tcatsunentokay I thought so once i calmed down lol08:27
tcatsunentyes i was deleting an unused partition but somehow that messed up the grub multiboot or something08:28
wilee-nileetcatsunent, That partition happen to have a os with grub?08:28
minimecUragan: see post #24 for the procedure (other device but same procedure...) https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=16438508:28
tcatsunenti was able to boot to windows,ubuntu,and backtrack08:28
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tcatsunentit must have so i dont know live cd reinstall grub then reboot?08:30
Romancewhere can i find python3.pc08:30
ActionParsnip!find python3.pc08:30
ubottuFile python3.pc found in python3-dev08:30
reisioRomance: ask apt-file08:31
RomanceActionParsnip in installed python3.3 in virtualenv, because i dont have root privileges, but i need python3 for my znc08:31
Romancei08:31
wilee-nileetcatsunent, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_208:32
Uraganminimec  no help with adding ne mode for DIN ((08:32
wilee-nileetcatsunent, From the info you have given, I would guess you need to reload grub to the mbr that link tells you how, or you can use the boot repair app08:33
tcatsunentwilee-nilee: thank you very much08:34
minimecUragan: When you open the 'display-settings' GUI, would the s-video device be an option (just with the wrong resolution)?08:34
Uragani have 12/04 server08:34
Uragancan`t open GUI08:35
minimecUragan: I see...08:35
Uraganhov can i go to display-settings GUI?08:36
minimecUragan: Well... I would do the same procedure on these DVI-X ports. I mean, the link I posted is about a USB-display, recognized as DVI-0... Give it a try.08:36
Uraganminimec you mean to try post #2408:37
minimecUragan: Yeah... give it a try for all your available 'ports'...08:38
minimecUragan: Also... What driver are you using for that GPU? The open source driver or the AMD(ATI)restricted one?08:38
Uraganminimec how can i get to display manager ?08:41
minimecUragan: Well you cannot right now, as you don't have a GUI environment, but you can activate the display with 'xrandr -d :0 --output $DIN --mode 1024x768_60.00' or similar08:44
EchoDevIn Windows you automaticly get a GUI environment08:45
EchoDevjust saying08:45
minimecUragan: remove that '$' sign from the command above. I was copy/paste out of a script of mine...08:48
ActionParsnipEchoDev: how is that relevant?08:50
* cfhowlett_ ... thinking?08:51
Uraganminimec no good (08:59
Dai_1987Uragan, it looks like you need to replace $DIN with DVI_0 or something09:00
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andreiiarYoutube does not work on fresh install. It just loads forever. I switched to html5 and it is the same.09:04
Dai_1987sounds about right for youtube these days...09:04
k1landreiiar: you got the codecs installed?09:05
k1l!codecs | andreiiar09:05
ubottuandreiiar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:05
andreiiar!codecs | andreiiar09:05
ubottuandreiiar, please see my private message09:05
k1landreiiar: see the bots message09:06
flashUbunIf I install 13.10 beta now, can I just upgrade to final is if I'd installed from the final ISO?09:07
minimecUragan: Ok. I would search the web to see if the available drivers for your GPU do support s-video out. It really depends on the ubuntu distribution you use. For 12.04 Precise, there is a restricted 'Catalyst' driver and the open source driver available for your card. For newer Ubuntu versions, the restricted driver for your card has been removed.09:08
zykotick9!final | flashUbun09:08
ubottuflashUbun: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Saucy and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 13.10 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal.09:08
andreiiark1l: It works with restricted extras.09:08
flashUbunCheers zykotick909:08
ernesto_hi! how do i set my ubuntu 12.04 (unity desktop manager) not to startx when booting?09:08
k1l!text | ernesto_09:09
ubottuernesto_: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode09:09
flashUbun!nvidia09:09
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto09:09
ernesto_ubottu:do i have to do that each time i reboot?09:10
ubottuernesto_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:10
k1lernesto_: yes. or you change the grub to put that into that kernel line per default.09:11
ernesto_k1l: ok, by the way, there is not gdm anymore with unity, how is the service called now?09:12
k1lernesto_: lightdm09:13
ernesto_k1l: and should i find that lightdm in my current runlevel to be started when booting?09:14
k1lernesto_: ubuntu uses upstart. but i would not recommend to change something in there. there is the "text" kernel command for this intention09:15
Uraganminimec  my system can`t find S-voideo   output ((09:16
AshokHello09:16
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mreggHi all :) With Ubuntu, is it possible to grant a user access to a sub-folder without granting him access to the parent folder?09:17
hitsujiTMOmregg, the simplest method ( not necessarily the best ) is to chmod 777 the sub folder ... but that gives everyone access to it09:18
mregghitsujiTMO: no no, not good. I'm creating groups to grant access to subfolders.09:18
hitsujiTMOor do you mean that the user does not have access at all to the parent folder?09:19
ashoksahooIs it okay to use WUBI for development env09:19
mreggwell, the user is part of the subfolder group, but not part of the parent group09:19
mregghitsujiTMO: let me explain a bit better :09:19
k1lashoksahoo: wubi is just for testing purposes. it is installed into a container inside the windows filesystem. most recommend to make a native isntall on real partitions. or make a virtual install in a virtualbox09:20
mregg/home/mainshare is 770 root:mainshare09:20
minimecUragan: Do you really need a display on that 'server install', or would an graphical access via 'ssh -X' be enough? Like that you would have an administration GUI without the need of a seperate screen.09:20
mregg/home/mainshare/sub1 is 770 root:sub109:20
mreggand so my user1 is member of sub1 but not mainshare09:21
hitsujiTMOhave you tried softlinking to the sub folder?09:21
mreggyup09:21
ashoksahooI dont want to lose my stuff on windows if the ubuntu goes wrong and grub fails09:21
hitsujiTMOashoksahoo: is a virtual machine a possibility?09:22
Roryashoksahoo: Just because you can't boot into windows doesn't mean your files aren't still there09:22
hitsujiTMOmregg: this might be the wrong way to go about it, but you could do it with an nfs share09:23
mreggno09:23
k1lashoksahoo: even with a wubi install there is the same risk of doing some harm. so use a VM if you dont want to touch your harddrive09:23
mregghitsujiTMO: I'm just trying to share a subfolder only09:23
ashoksahooin wubi there is risk to ubuntu, but not to windows.09:23
Dr_Willisashoksahoo:  with wubi.. windows can fail and kill ubuntu09:24
hitsujiTMOyes you could nfs share the subfolder09:24
hitsujiTMOand mount it on the same machine09:24
Dr_Willisashoksahoo:  wubi is also being phased out. if you want a safe test place.. use virtualbox09:24
ashoksahoohaha.. then I will go with native thing I guess09:24
k1lashoksahoo: wrong. its also a risk that windows gets corrupted. so that is no guarantee09:24
Dr_Willisashoksahoo:  best is to have a 2nd hard drive just for ubuntu ;) and keep grub on that hd. so the 2 os's are as seperte as you can get.09:25
k1l!dualboot | ashoksahoo09:25
ubottuashoksahoo: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot09:25
mregghitsujiTMO: no, because everybody using the same computer though freenx09:25
mregghitsujiTMO: in other words, there's no nfs involved09:25
hitsujiTMOmreg tho only other thing i can think of is store the subfolder elsewhere and softlink it in the parent09:27
flashUbunHasn't flash stop being updated for Linux? Is it safer to use Chrome then?09:28
hitsujiTMOflashUbun: flash is difficult to get working on ubuntu, for most users installing Chrome is the easiest option09:29
flashUbunI always just install flash-installer and it works?09:30
RoryflashUbun: please run the command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"09:30
flashUbunIt's fine - it works thanks. I'm justing asking now that Linux is no longer getting updates and Google have taken over, is Chrome safer to use?09:31
wilee-nileeflashUbun, safer from what?09:31
RoryflashUbun: Probably; Chrome's "pepper flash" is updated more often09:31
bekksRory: That approach is outdated. It will install the last native version of flash, which is abandoned by adobe.09:31
flashUbunJust in general :-)09:31
RoryThe best thing is not to use flash at all, really09:32
RoryI mean, it's 201309:32
flashUbunI agree but it is still required :-(09:32
RoryFor what?09:32
RoryAdverts is all I can think of09:32
bekksflashUbun: Use Chrome and PepperFlash.09:32
flashUbunCertain websites.09:32
[Gentoo]i tried living without flash for ~2 years09:32
[Gentoo]its a pita09:32
RoryThe gnash plugin doesn't suck any more09:32
RoryWell, not as much09:33
hitsujiTMOflashUbun: most site have a html5 implementation these days09:33
flashUbunEven sites like speedtest.net?09:33
[Gentoo]most stuff dont work without flash09:33
[Gentoo]htlm5 is good but hardly anything in the real world uses it09:33
bekkshitsujiTMO: Thats not true, unless yoiu are talking about YT.09:33
flashUbunYouTube doesn't support all videos in HTML5... yet.09:33
hitsujiTMOmaybe thats just my experience then,09:34
[Gentoo]hardly any YT videos work without flash in my experience09:34
[Gentoo]even with the opt in htlm509:34
reisioyou're confusing video formats that browsers now support with HTML5 anyways09:34
reisiodifferent things09:34
RoryflashUbun: But in answer to your question, yeah the best way is to use Chrome. Even if you don't use it as your main browser. I wonder if there's a way to use Chrome's flash in Firefox, presumably there's a libflashplayer.so somewhere09:34
reisioHTML5 has new things, things that make it easier on developers09:34
reisiobut nothing we didn't already have before09:34
bekksRory: There is no libflashplayer.so anymore using PepperFlash.09:35
flashUbunMaybe! Isn't Chromium becoming default in 14.04 next year?09:35
reisionot a damned thing09:35
bekksflashUbun: chromium does not ship with PepperFlash. Chrome does.09:35
reisioRory: why not just use ordinary Flash in Firefox09:35
flashUbunYou're kidding? Alright.09:35
reisioFlash is not being developed, it doesn't matter if it gradually becomes more outdated than it was09:36
Roryreisio: It's pretty insecure now09:36
Gunteerehi! does someone have experience with apcupsd? i'm having trouble detecting a communication failure event, the daemon logs the correct status to /var/log/apcupsd.status, but does not write it to the regular logile /var/log/apcupsd.events, does not annoy the users, and does not execute the /etc/apcupsd/commfailure script...09:36
reisioRory: it always was09:36
RoryYes reisio but newly discovered vulnerabilities remain unpatched09:36
flashUbunI've been jumping from Ubuntu to Windows for the past 6/7 years but I'm finally going to give up Windows in favour of Ubuntu :-)09:36
reisiooh thought this was #css for a moment, lot of web discussion09:36
Roryreisio: It's pretty quiet09:36
bekksreisio: Flash is actively developed. The native implementation was abandoned by Adobe, PepperFlash is under active development.09:36
reisioRory: was ever the case09:36
reisioflashUbun: gj09:37
reisiobekks: nah09:37
flashUbunSorry, might be my fault we went on to Web. I *was* a web developer until recently and I tend to start these things :/09:37
bekksreisio: Do you have any links of Adobe stating they cancelled development for PepperFlash?09:37
reisioflashUbun: just an observation, I don't mind talking about web stuff, obviously :p09:38
flashUbunGoogle is doing the development for that aren't they?09:38
RoryI have an actual support question: I accidentally disabled my mouse using a third-party xinput gui, but I don't understand how to re-enable it with the xinput CLI tool. It says to use "xinput enable <device>" but I'm not sure what to put for device09:38
reisiobekks: stating they've stopped focusing on flash, sure09:38
bekksflashUbun: No. Google just integrates PepperFlash into Chrome.09:38
reisiodon't confuse flash and an api09:38
reisioRory: yeah, let's see...09:38
bekksreisio: Stating that they cancelled native flash development, sure. Thats what I said earlier. They did to focus on PepperFlash. Thats What I said earlier.09:39
yesyayenhi all, while installing a package i get this error,09:39
yesyayens09:39
reisioRory: xinput set-prop numberHere 'Device Enabled' 1 ?09:39
reisios/ \?$//09:39
reisiodon't confuse flash and an api09:39
yesyayendpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gconf-service_3.2.6-1_i386.deb (--unpack):09:39
yesyayen trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconf/2/libgconfbackend-oldxml.so', which is also in package gconf-service-backend 3.2.6-0ubuntu109:39
yesyayenNo apport report written because MaxReports is reached already09:39
yesyayen                                                              dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)09:39
yesyayenErrors were encountered while processing:/var/cache/apt/archives/gconf-service_3.2.6-1_i386.deb09:39
varfoohey guys, can anyone help me install ag on my terminal?09:39
FloodBot1yesyayen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:39
yesyayenE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:39
Rory!details | varfoo09:40
ubottuvarfoo: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:40
flashUbunIt's a joint partnership with Adobe and Google. As far as I know they are still actively developing the "Pepper" and it's just 11.2 (I think) was the last Adobe Flash for linux (with 5 years of security updates)09:40
andryjust found a little hack for chromium and chrome to scroll faster without extension ... if someone is interested .. http://goo.gl/IzXbN309:41
krzRory: whats so unclear about that question?09:41
reisiopepper flash, or PPAPI, is an API09:41
Rorykrz: Well presumably he's having some kind of problem installing it, but has provided no details as to what the problem is09:41
Wiz_KeeDHey guys09:41
krz!stopabusingthebot | Rory09:41
yesyayengetting this error while installing package--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6235185/09:41
varfooRory: trying to run command 'ap' on my terminal to search for keywords in the specific directory09:41
Wiz_KeeDDo locale modules need to be installed or uncommented somewhere?09:41
reisioRory: that work?09:41
k1lkrz: stop that. be helpfull when you are  in here09:42
varfooRory: 'ag'*09:42
Roryreisio: No - take a look at this output of xinput: http://paste.ubuntu.com/623519109:42
Roryreisio: That shows my device names and IDs - I don't know which one of the two identically named mouse entries is the actual one09:43
krzvarfoo: https://github.com/ggreer/the_silver_searcher09:44
flashUbunCan I just ask for someone to clearify on the Beta -> Final situation. If you're on, say, 13.10 beta and you upgrade to 13.10 final, I'm guessing you'll stick on that branch and won't all of a sudden end up with14.04 Beta in the future? If I'm not mistaken Ubuntu doesn't have beta "releases" per se just updates to the branch/version.09:44
reisioRory: one or the other? :p09:44
Roryreisio: Yeah I tried both :)09:44
reisioRory: what command?09:44
Roryreisio: xinput set-prop 8 'Device Enabled' 109:45
Roryreisio: Also "xinput enable 8" which doesn't error09:45
hitsujiTMO!final | flashUbun09:45
ubottuflashUbun: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Saucy and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 13.10 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal.09:45
cedq_007Is it possible/how to set group rwx permissions from umask in octal notation?09:45
RoryflashUbun: To clarify: yes you are correct09:46
flashUbunI know that :-) I'm just wondering if you're using a beta and upgrade to a final if you'll automatically get future betas.09:46
RoryflashUbun: No you won't09:46
zykotick9cedq_007: whatever you are doing - it's wrong.  why would you want all files to be executable?09:46
RoryflashUbun: It's not like Arch or something with rolling branches09:46
flashUbunCheers :) Reason: I can't wait to go pure-Ubuntu so I'm going to pop on 13.10 Beta today (can't wait for the 17th)09:46
cedq_007zykotick9, test question09:46
RoryflashUbun: Grab a daily, the beta is pretty old now and you'll have a lot more updates to do09:46
wilee-nileeflashUbun, You choose any distro upgrade.09:47
hitsujiTMOcedq_007: umask 002 assigns rwxrwxr-x09:47
flashUbunI've always waited for the finals you see - but I'm now impatient :-P09:47
bekksreisio: The API is the PepperAPI, PepperFlash is a plugin using the PepperAPI.09:47
hitsujiTMOcedq_007: damn, wish i saw your "test question" response before i did your homework09:47
bekksreisio: So please dont confuse them ;)09:48
flashUbunGah! My dang K90 keyboard is driving me bananas on Ubuntu. I have to have it in "standard mode" meaning the scroll lock led keeps flashing. Thanks Corsair :-/09:49
Roryreisio: I unplugged and plugged my mouse and it worked (facedesk)09:49
seperoreisio: did we have this before html5?  http://blog.artooro.com/2013/06/08/cross-platform-browser-html5-desktop-notifications/09:49
flashUbunRory, one should respect their "work" environment ;-)09:49
cedq_007hitusjiTMO: I can see this with directory.   Oddly, the test question asks for this on a file, which befuddles me09:50
XATRIXGuys, I have problems during update... I have a try reminder for updates. And it always shows the exclamation sign within a red circle. Sounds if it say i have troubles during the update check procedure. Should be done manually09:51
XATRIXBut all of my repositories are installed correctly09:51
XATRIXHow can i fix it ?09:51
reisioRory: heh, gj09:51
zykotick9XATRIX: what release?  "lsb_release -sc"09:52
k1lXATRIX: please put into a pastebin: "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade"09:52
faugusztinXATRIX: run apt-get upgrade, it will probably say "run apt-get -f install"09:52
wilee-nileeXATRIX, What ubuntu release is this?09:52
reisiosepero: there is nothing added in HTML5 that makes anything possible that wasn't already possible09:52
yasoobhi there everyone09:52
yasoob:)09:52
reisioyasoob: hi09:52
XATRIXraring09:52
flashUbunHey09:52
Wiz_KeeDCan anyone tell me the neccesairy steps to install german locale for the sole purpose of printing a german date?09:52
Wiz_KeeDubuntu 12.0409:52
XATRIXk1l: yes, it updates correctly. But why does the checker fails ?09:53
yasoobI am a python programmer. Is there any way i can contribute ?09:53
k1lXATRIX: please show the output09:53
seperoreisio: cool. can you link me to info on how to do desktop notifications without html5?09:53
yasoobI mean which project should i look intp09:53
UraganDai_1987 how to replace them?09:53
XATRIXUbuntu 13.04 \n \l09:53
yasoobinto *09:53
reisiosepero: this thing you linked to refers to a JS API09:54
Dai_1987Uragan: ? i haven't said anything for a while, refresh my memory09:54
XATRIXk1l: if i run apt-get update & upgrade - it will hide the icon off.. I wouldn't be able to reproduce it until the next ubuntu updates will be released09:54
reisiosepero: what part of that do you think requires HTML5?09:54
yasoobreisio: any suggestion ?09:54
XATRIXEverything updates, and upgrades correctly. I'm sure of. Simply have a fail icon of system-tray-auto-update-checker09:55
XATRIXin XFCE09:55
seperoNotification.requestPermission(function (perm) {09:55
sepero    if (perm == 'granted') {09:55
sepero        // Tell your app it's OK to send notifications09:55
sepero    }09:55
sepero});09:55
FloodBot1sepero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:55
seperoreisio: ^^09:55
faugusztinreisio: it is a semantics question - desktop notifications are defined by whatwg group, which is the HTML5 guys :)... but you are righ, sure09:55
reisiosepero: that just uses JS to tell something else something, nothing new09:55
reisiofaugusztin: yeah, heavy on the mantics :)09:56
Uragan<Dai_1987> Uragan, it looks like you need to replace $DIN with DVI_0 or something09:56
Uraganit`s about s-video uotput09:57
Dai_1987Uragan: i meant literally type the name of your output when running that command09:57
Dai_1987Uragan: DVI_0 was just an example09:58
eeosserious problem here .... I am connected to internet, no application open but there is a lot of traffic on the network card .... how do I list the processes that are transmitting on the network?09:58
andreiiar$netstat09:58
faugusztineeos: netstat -c ?09:59
eeosfaugusztin: thanks09:59
andreiiarWhat, I get no thanks?09:59
andreiiarCome on man, I am going to lead climb for the first time today I need my karma.10:00
faugusztinandreiiar: :)10:00
eeosthanks andreiiar10:02
eeos:D10:03
eeosapologies, but that is not what i really needed .... I need to list the processes that are actually talking on an itnerface (eth0) listed by traffic ....10:03
XATRIXk1l: http://ur1.ca/fvyrj10:04
reisioandreiiar: no thanks :)10:04
eeossomething like iotop -a but for the network interface!10:04
XATRIXk1l: I think nothing unusual10:04
faugusztineeos: iftop ?10:05
flashUbunLittle bit of a PC support question here. In my BIOS under boot priority I have old OSes listed that are no longer installed. Any idea how to remove these?10:05
andreiiareeos: htop10:05
ihreatop10:05
ihreincludes all *top packages10:05
faugusztinflashUbun: UEFI ?10:05
eeosandreiiar: can you track network interfaces with htop?10:05
k1lXATRIX: you have 32bit and 64bit repos enabled?10:05
flashUbunYea10:05
faugusztinflashUbun: efibootmgr i think10:06
UraganDai_1987 i see...try this, but no profit (10:06
k1lXATRIX: ah wait. that is a comon output10:06
faugusztinflashUbun: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63610/how-do-i-remove-ubuntu-in-the-bios-boot-menu10:06
XATRIXk1l: nope. Only 6410:06
eeosthanks faugusztin andreiiar ihre, I will look into those.10:06
faugusztineeos: iftop will tell you where do you communicate, but not which process unfortunately10:06
k1lXATRIX: does it show any errors after you did the apt-get upgrade?10:07
faugusztineeos: like it will say you are sending X kb towards server Y10:07
XATRIXk1l: nothing extra10:07
XATRIXNo errors, i can proceed with upgrades10:07
eeosfaugusztin: yes, I am tetsing it now .... mmmm .... I really need to know which process is responsible.10:07
zykotick9!info nethogs | eeos10:08
ubottueeos: nethogs (source: nethogs): Net top tool grouping bandwidth per process. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-1 (raring), package size 26 kB, installed size 98 kB10:08
eeosthanks zykotick9, I will look into it.10:09
eeosbrb!10:09
flashUbunBack soon10:09
irctc292hello guys. i have a problem with installing of ubuntu on hp envy 1110et laptop10:16
reisioirctc292: bummer10:17
MonkeyDustirctc292  what kind problem, what ubuntu version?10:17
MonkeyDustkind of*10:18
irctc292now i have just windows 8 pro on laptop but i want to install ubuntu 13.0410:18
reisiohow is that a problem? :)10:18
irctc292i downloeaded iso and burn it to on my flash and now i am on ubuntu try version10:18
tilerenderinghi - I do this every year, once, if at all: how do I enable read access (and nothing else) for a specific group on a file ?10:18
MonkeyDustirctc292  uefi may be the issue10:18
irctc292when i want to click install ubuntu its ok but i cannot see any disk on t10:18
irctc292yeap i am sure it all about uefi but dont know how to fix it :(10:19
MonkeyDust!uefi10:20
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI10:20
irctc292there is just /dev/sda n screen but there is no partition list when i click change or something installation screen is just giving up with error10:20
reisiotilerendering: http://www.washington.edu/computing/unix/permissions.html10:23
faugusztintilerendering, reisio: or in case of filesystem with ACL support: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs10:24
reisioyeah acl is nice, especially if you want to deal with more than one group10:25
Guillem_Is there any (simple) way of controlling an standard phone-line from the computer?10:33
bekksGuillem_: You need a modem to do so.10:33
nibblerwell, there is modems. but maybe you are looking for tapi stuff, dont know10:34
grimetonGuillem_: what exactly are you trying todo?10:34
reisiomake it dance10:35
* grimeton dances 8/-<10:35
* grimeton dances 8\-<10:35
Guillem_I'm not trying to do anything :P. I am at the office and I have a phone at my side. I think it would be nice to control it from the computer (with headset conencted to the computer)10:35
grimetonGuillem_: depends on the phone and if it is made for that10:36
grimetonGuillem_: on some setups you control the phone via a link to the pbx10:36
nibblerGuillem_: easiest would be, if your phone was sip - you could just install a softphone and use it on your pc (networking issues to be sorted out probably)10:36
Guillem_I'm just curious, because this seems to be quite straight forward  but never seen about it...10:36
reisioit's not, really10:37
reisioanalog<->digital interfaces rarely are10:37
grimetonGuillem_: if the setup is right10:37
grimetonGuillem_: voip phones are the best ones for things like that10:37
grimetonGuillem_: other phones have a serial connection to the pc10:37
reisiomost phoneline modems are single use, too, and don't support all the "fancy" things you can do with a phone line10:38
andrythere is still no way to get the unity bar to the bottom in >=12.04, right?10:39
k1landry: right10:40
andrymerci .. whatever, i will get used to it :P10:40
reisioandry: pretty sure there is10:40
Guillem_OK, guys. Thank for pointing all those facts. I was puzzled, now I'm still but have some rough ideas about it. The main one is that is its easier to make the phone dance than what I pretend :)10:40
reisioandry: look in the comments here https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/66841510:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 668415 in Ubuntu "Movement of Unity launcher" [Undecided,Won't fix]10:41
andryyea, had a little look into it a while back, thanks10:41
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flashUbunI've just made a USB Installer of 13.10 and upon boot I get the error cannot mount /dev/loop0 (device not found). I've hashed the ISO I used and it's fine. Any ideas? Google isn't turning up anything useful.10:47
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cfhowlett!saucy|flashUbun,   not supported here - use the other channel10:50
ubottuflashUbun,   not supported here - use the other channel: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.10:50
faugusztinflashUbun: in other words, ask it here on Thursday :P10:51
ActionParsnipflashUbun: or use a released ubuntu, like Precise :)10:51
faugusztinflashUbun: but it seems from the google that mostly it is from damaged installer medium, maybe your ISO is fine but your USB installer isn't10:52
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ActionParsnipflashUbun: if google turns up blank, try duckduckgo10:54
ypwongcan't upgrade to 13.10 on a 13.04 box with update-manager -d10:55
Ben64ypwong: 13.10 support in #ubuntu+110:55
k1lypwong: what does lsb_release -r give you?10:55
ypwongBen64, ah, thanks10:56
ypwongk1l, 13.0410:56
Linuxxhello10:57
Linuxxcould someone help me about the language support installation on linux lite ?10:58
ActionParsnipLinuxx: linux lite isnt supported here10:59
Linuxxoh i see10:59
Linuxxwhich channel than ?10:59
ActionParsnip#linuxlite10:59
Linuxxok thanx10:59
ActionParsnipLinuxx: they have a channel here on freenode10:59
ActionParsniphaha 10 people11:00
bekksActionParsnip: premium support staff.11:00
Ben64too many ubuntu derivatives :(11:00
faugusztinBen64: the worst part is that most ubuntu derivates are "change logos, add one extra package to default install" :)11:02
ActionParsnipjust people expect ubuntu to support all the stupid spinoffs, then they get angry when there is none11:02
ActionParsnipits stupid11:02
Ben64why not instead of making a distro type thing... make it a ppa11:03
reisiofaugusztin: isn't that how Ubuntu started, re: Debian? :p11:05
Ben64reisio: funded by a billionaire :)11:06
minimecLinuxx: https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/install.html#language11:06
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reisioBen64: I wonder how many billionaires don't know how to fork a distro11:07
rokkaHello, can someone verify that 12.04 LTS alternative install .iso actually works? I have tried with 2 usb sticks and 2 different .iso images (+mac & normal): Always end up with corrupted files and installer stops11:09
ActionParsniprokka: why would it not?11:09
ActionParsniprokka: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?11:09
Snake2krokka: Exactly tell us how teh installer stops?11:12
Snake2krokka: like, what happens when you boot from your usb?11:13
rokkaActionParsnip: Yes the md5sum matches11:13
rokkaSnake2k: wait a bit.. i boot again11:13
ActionParsnipBen64: shuttleworth's net worth is 500 million usd, not a billionaire :)11:13
Snake2kSure11:13
cgtdk"How to become a millionaire by working on open source: start out as a billionaire"11:14
rokkaSnake2k: i can get past the keyboard detection.. then it fails at   [!!] Load installer components fomr CD. There was problem reading data from the CD-ROM.....11:15
cgtdkrokka: keyboard detection only or the whole keyboard configuration thing?11:16
rokkafile is:   Retrieving crypto-modules-3.8.0-29-generic-di..11:16
cgtdkYou can bypass detection by specifying your keyboard layout11:17
rokkadetection works so why bypass11:17
ActionParsniprokka: is this in Saucy?11:17
cgtdkOh, I misread your message11:17
cgtdksorry11:17
rokkaActionParsnip: i don't get your question11:18
ActionParsniprokka: the package name looks new, or are you using a daily ISO?11:18
ActionParsniprokka: seems to be from a PPA possibly too11:18
rokkaits 12.04 LTS _alternative_ installer11:18
rokkabecause i need to configure raid11:19
ActionParsniprokka: cant the desktop ISO do that>11:19
rokka12.040311:19
rokkaubuntu-12.04.3-alternate-amd64.iso11:20
rokkaat least the one on my cd doesn't11:20
rokkadesktop11:20
ActionParsniprokka: yeah just seen online :(11:21
ActionParsniprokka: bah11:21
rokkacan you verify the alternative installer problem?11:21
rokkahttp://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.3-alternate-amd64.iso11:21
afshinHello11:23
afshinWhen the system want to suspend and some programs are still running, the linux alert that some programs are still runing. My quistion is how to suspend system without this alert?11:25
Snake2krokka: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r11:25
Snake2krokka: do those solutions work for you?11:25
rokkaSnake2k: i'll try11:26
ActionParsnipafshin: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:26
bluechaosI need some help ( i need sourcelist update from 11.10 to 12.04 (Precise)11:27
ActionParsnip!upgrade | bluechaos11:27
ubottubluechaos: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade11:27
afshinActionParsnip: Linux Mint 15 Olivia \n \l11:27
bluechaosThank you11:27
bluechaoslet me see if I find some code to upgrade ubuntu11:28
bluechaoslisten this is not helping me ( thouse page's show me how to do upgrate from manager I didn`t need manager for upgrade I have source.list (urls is out of support)11:29
ActionParsnipafshin: not supported here11:30
ActionParsnip!mint | afshin11:30
ubottuafshin: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org11:30
bluechaosI just need only Urls from source.list (available urls& lib /repostory ) to upgrade it11:30
ActionParsnipbluechaos: that is not how you upgrade ubuntu11:31
bluechaosI know how to upgrade it from manager but that don`t work told me is unsupported11:31
bluechaosbecouse of this I need some urls something like this deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty main universe11:32
bluechaosavailable to upgrate my ubuntu !11:32
ActionParsnipbluechaos: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:32
bluechaosUbuntu 11.0411:32
ActionParsnipbluechaos: then you need to upgrade to Oneiric first11:33
tilerenderinghi what is the chmod syntax for granting read rights for a specific group ? not "one" gorup, but a specific one. is there a paremeter for which I can specify the group in ?11:33
bluechaosok tell me source code11:33
ActionParsnip!eol | bluechaos11:33
ubottubluechaos: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades11:33
andreiiarI have 2 network cards and configure the second one with the ip command but it gets reseted after some random time. I can see the network icon works on something. Why11:33
ActionParsniptilerendering: chgrp the item to the group, then grant the group the desired access11:34
memandHey guys, I'm trying to back something up from my server with rsync but I'm getting TERRIBLE speed I did an iperf on the server and got 746KB/s throughtput to this machine but I only get around 90KB/s with rsync (it's the same with scp and sftp btw)... ?_?11:34
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reisiomemand: turn your torrent client off11:35
tilerenderingchgrp is like chown for groups ?11:35
ActionParsniptilerendering: yes, or you can use:  chown .groupname thing   to set the group using chown11:37
memandreisio: didn't help :/11:38
osubuntuhello11:39
tilerenderingmerci beaucoup11:40
BlueGuitarhow do I disable cups and bluetooth and avahi-daemon from starting ?11:40
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ActionParsnipbluechaos: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:42
tilerenderingcan I set permissions for the service xxx start commands at user/service level ? i.e.: I want sudoers to be able to start all services, whereas I want the developer group to be able to start and stop specific services only ?11:43
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reisiotilerendering: you can do anything, read /etc/sudoers11:44
tilerenderingthanks11:44
lamiskahello can anybody help me? i have ubuntu 13.04 installed and it mostly boots into blank screen (although i can hear boot sound in background) to get into X i have to restart it several times11:44
ActionParsnipbluechaos: its a simple command in terminal11:45
BlueGuitarActionParsnip: i want it automatic because I dont have bt and never use printer11:46
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: fine, what is the output of the command please....11:46
bluechaosActionParsnip,11:47
bluechaoscan u be more specific please11:47
bluechaosActionParsnip> bluechaos: its a simple command in terminal11:47
ActionParsnipbluechaos: open a terminal, run the command, copy the output, paste it here11:47
bluechaosmaybe u didn't understand me11:48
ActionParsnipbluechaos: once I have the output I can give a solution11:48
BlueGuitarActionParsnip: are you talking to bluechaos or blueguitar11:48
bluechaosthis source is out of11:48
bluechaosdeb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME main restricted universe multiverse11:48
bluechaosdeb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME-updates main restricted universe multiverse11:48
bluechaosdeb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME-security main restricted universe multiverse11:48
bluechaos#deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME-backports main restricted universe multiverse11:48
FloodBot1bluechaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:48
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: was for you, to stop services11:48
bluechaoshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6235568/11:49
BlueGuitarActionParsnip: from what I understand I can put a copy of .conf as .override in init  but doesnt seem to work11:50
BlueGuitarbluechaos: you need to clear the cache11:50
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: change the word 'CODENAME' in your file.11:50
bluechaoshow to do that11:51
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ActionParsnipbluechaos: its a text file, you can edit a text file....11:51
ActionParsnipbluechaos: what is the output of the command please?11:51
BlueGuitarbluechaos: try sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update11:51
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: its one line, so can be pasted here without issue11:51
BlueGuitarwhat command ? ActionParsnip11:52
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: his file needs editting as s/he has put CODENAME instead of the actual codename of the release11:52
bluechaosActionParsnip,  the same error11:52
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: cat /etc/issue11:52
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: you need to change CODENAME to the actual codename of your release, like 'oneiric' or 'natty' etc11:52
ActionParsnipbluechaos: ^11:52
BlueGuitarActionParsnip:  you are talking to 2 people11:53
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: yes, tab fail. what is the output of the command please...11:53
bluechaosI gave that command line is the same error I need available source code to upgrade that urls is not available from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades11:53
BlueGuitarbluechaos: nm that - what ActionParsnip  said - your PPA are listing wrong distro11:53
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ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: i found this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMWy66XkDmU11:54
bluechaosmaybe i paste some new keys intro terminal11:54
BlueGuitarbluechaos: are you upgrading the distro the "wrong way"?11:54
bluechaosNo I cannot upgrade it ...11:54
bluechaosI have empty source.list11:54
BlueGuitarbluechaos: what distro are you using ?11:55
bluechaossudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list11:55
bluechaosthis one11:55
BlueGuitar?11:55
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BlueGuitarbluechaos:  you are using ubuntu what raring, precise, ?11:55
bluechaosbluechaos@bluechaos-EP41-UD3L:~$ sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list^Cbluechaos@bluechaos-EP41-UD3L:~$ cat /etc/issue11:55
bluechaosUbuntu 11.04 \n \l11:55
bluechaosbluechaos@bluechaos-EP41-UD3L:~$11:55
karloguys, when I span one window across 2+ monitors, the app menu on the top bar does not show up. Is it a known issue? Is there a shortcut to bring up the app menu? Alt+F2 opens up unity for me.11:56
BlueGuitarActionParsnip: interesting. does that work in mint?11:56
cfhowlett11.04 ... ?11:56
bluechaosyes11:56
bluechaosI must to upgrade it to 12.04 or higher11:57
ActionParsnipbluechaos: are you using mint?11:57
bluechaosThis version is out of support11:57
bluechaosubuntu11:57
BlueGuitarbluechaos: you cant just upgrade like that - it will F'up all kinds11:57
BlueGuitarbluechaos: backup your home to external drive and clean install new distro11:58
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: again, what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue   some old versions work slightly differently. I have asked .,...11:58
BlueGuitarLinux Mint 15 Olivia \n \l11:58
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: not supported here11:58
ActionParsnip!mint | BlueGuitar11:58
ubottuBlueGuitar: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org11:58
bluechaosyea I have a problem with that belive me when i've installed , I just install in entire hdd I don`t have any partition !11:58
bluechaosto save home folder (making a backup)11:59
BlueGuitarActionParsnip: it is based on ubuntu and upstart came from ubuntu11:59
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: none of the 'ubuntu based' distros are supported here11:59
BlueGuitarActionParsnip: ok understood11:59
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: you arent using ubuntu, so its not supported here11:59
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BlueGuitarbluechaos: your version is no longer supported so wont work.  You have to backup to external and clean install new version12:00
bluechaostalk latter ..12:02
bluechaosi must to go12:02
BlueGuitarbluechaos: good luck12:02
chegneywhat is the default wm for ubuntu desktop?12:06
BlueGuitarunity ?12:07
chegneyits really slow on my netbook whatever it is12:07
Myrttidon't use it then.12:07
gordonjcpchegney: compiz12:07
cgtdkBlueGuitar: That's not a WM12:07
gordonjcpchegney: have you got accelerated graphics?12:07
BlueGuitarok - lol12:07
foofoobarHi. In a bash script I call a command which outputs: 'HorizTwoFingerScroll    = 1'. I want to test if the value is 1 or 212:07
foofoobarHow do I do this?12:07
Touhou11chegney: You might like to try XFCE, or use the Xubuntu distribution. It also has the advantage of not coming with adverts12:07
fidelchegney: xfce might be worth a try on older boxes12:07
BlueGuitarcgtdk:  then what is - gnome3?12:08
cgtdkBlueGuitar: Gnome is a desktop environment12:08
cgtdkusing the Gnome shell interface12:08
MonkeyDustfoofoobar  better ask in #bash12:08
chegneyyeah, I def need to switch, does it make sense to do a reinstall with a diff ubuntu build?12:08
cgtdkUntiy is just an interface for Gnome12:08
foofoobarok12:09
chegneyI just installed this thing so there's not much on it or configured yet12:09
Touhou11chegney: You don't need to reinstall, you can just install the XFCE desktop and then choose that at login12:09
fidelchegney: in case of xfce - just solve it via apt12:09
chegneyanother question, I put the thing into suspend last night and when I opened the lid this morning, the screen was all garbled and I could only reboot12:10
chegneydriver issue?12:10
MonkeyDustchegney  maybe you need more swap space12:12
streulmaI have an old PC (Dual Core, 2.5ghz with 4gb ram), how can I make Ubuntu faster? Is 12.04 faster then 13.04 ?12:12
* Touhou11 shakes his head at what is now considered old12:12
fidelstreulma: try to locate what eats your resources12:12
chegneyMonkeyDust, I just ran the graphical install from the disk, not sure what that sets up for swap space12:12
streulmafidel: tomcat :)12:12
MonkeyDustTouhou11  6 months = old for the youngest generation :)12:13
ActionParsnipstreulma: if you use a lighter desktop like LXDE it will be faster12:13
faugusztinstreulma: define "faster". SSD usually helps any computer :)12:13
ActionParsnipor max your motherboards ram12:13
faugusztinstreulma: but need for more CPU performance is usually solved by better CPU or overclocking :)12:14
ActionParsnipthen you will cache lots of disk stuff rather than slow hdds12:14
BlueGuitarfaugusztin: how much better is SSD ?12:14
MonkeyDustchegney  what's the output of the command     free   <-- use pastebin to show us12:14
ActionParsnipBlueGuitar: seek times are a lot faster12:14
faugusztinBlueGuitar: access time of typical hard drive - 10-15ms. access time of SSD <0.1ms12:14
ActionParsnipfaugusztin: its still sata, so 300Mb/s to the board ;)12:14
BlueGuitarActionParsnip:  faugusztin  wow -  I notice when doing reads/writes at full that my cpu is not at 100 so..12:15
faugusztinActionParsnip: sequential read yes, but the typical random read is not that simple :)12:15
ActionParsnipfaugusztin: try a PCI-X SSD, several gb/s now that is speed12:16
cgtdkcan't SATA 3 do 6 Gbps?12:16
faugusztincgtdk: yes12:16
faugusztincgtdk: still not 1GB/s+ like most PCI-E SSD12:16
cgtdkPCI-E is definitely faster12:17
faugusztinbut price is in different region too :P12:17
cgtdkOCZ has one they claim can read at 1500 MB/s12:17
ActionParsnipcgtdk: yes, 6gigabits, 600Mb/s12:17
afshinI have a bash script file and I want put a command that run vlc and vlc open a file but I don't know homw to12:17
ActionParsnipcgtdk: http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8142/~/difference-between-sata-i,-sata-ii-and-sata-iii12:17
cgtdkActionParsnip: That's 600 MB/s, not Mb/s12:18
cgtdkb = bit, B = byte12:18
streulmaafshin: vlc /home...12:18
BlueGuitarafshin: open a file when?12:18
BlueGuitarafshin:  check out alarm-clock-applet12:18
bonhoefferis there a way to view a font (ttf eot etc) in ubuntu12:18
ActionParsnipcgtdk: yes, but the interface will give 600Mb/s12:18
DaVinciIThi all. UbuntuGnome. How to update to 13.04->13.10 ? thank you.12:19
BlueGuitarbonhoeffer: use font viewer12:19
ActionParsnipbonhoeffer: isnt there a font viewer in the default install12:19
cgtdk"The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 600MB/s"12:19
cgtdkthat's 600 megabytes per second12:19
ActionParsnipDaVinciIT: sudo do-release-upgrade -d12:19
BlueGuitarwhat is avahi-daemon?12:19
MonkeyDustBlueGuitar  avahi is for wifi12:19
bonhoefferActionParsnip, not that i can find12:19
DaVinciITActionParsnip:  thank you!12:19
afshinI inseet this command in my script: vlc /home/afsin/channels.conf but this dose not work12:19
ActionParsniphttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/06/kingspec_multicore_mc1s81m2t_2tb_pcie_ssd/   3Gigabytes per second, or 600Megabytes for SATA-312:20
BlueGuitarMonkeyDust: that it was for printer and file sharing - i need it for wifi?12:20
BlueGuitarbonhoeffer: install font viewer12:20
cgtdkActionParsnip: What?12:21
BlueGuitarbonhoeffer: very straightforward if you want to check a font.  also check site dafonts12:21
bonhoefferhmm .. . looks like it is installed, but i can't find it  -- working it, thanks . . .12:21
ActionParsnip!info  gnome-specimen12:21
ubottugnome-specimen (source: gnome-specimen): Simple font preview and compare application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-8 (raring), package size 54 kB, installed size 464 kB12:21
BlueGuitarbonhoeffer: its not in menu?12:21
bonhoefferBlueGuitar, no -- not coming up12:21
MonkeyDustBlueGuitar  i correct myself: avahi is for cabled networking too12:21
bonhoefferActionParsnip, i'll look at it12:22
faugusztinBlueGuitar: http://imgur.com/5YfpH6L <-- notice the access times, good luck with that on mechanical hard drive :)12:22
ReactoHow do I install 13.10 over 13.04 when I dual boot with Win8?12:22
BlueGuitarbonhoeffer: gnome-font-viewer     in terminal12:22
ReactoThere's no option for upgrading12:22
Reactodo I have to delete the ubuntu partitions + the grub partition?12:22
fidelReacto: no - you upgrade ;)12:22
Reactoye but how12:22
ActionParsnipReacto: 13.10 support in #ubuntu+1 please12:22
faugusztinReacto: can't you wait for official upgrade on Thursday ?12:23
BlueGuitarfaugusztin: lol - thats fast12:23
ReactoI need to reinstall ubuntu anyway12:23
Reactoit's bugged12:23
fidelReacto: as long as it isnt official out - you might need a special switch to trigger it. but see the +1 hint12:23
wadieproblem: I can't see the video of any file. not working on vlc or movie player. I'm using unity 2d. only when I restart the computer I can watch a video or to but then only audio12:23
chegneyso wgetpaste is not available on ubuntu? alternative?12:23
BlueGuitarwadie: what video type?12:24
wadieanything12:24
ActionParsnipchegney: what does it do?12:24
wadiemkv,avi12:24
bonhoefferBlueGuitar, closer -- but i get Could not load face 'file:///home/bonhoeffer/Sites/ptp_nova/fonts/glyphicons-halflings-regular.ttf'12:25
chegneycommandline paste to a pastebin site12:25
bonhoefferdoes this mean my fonts are corrupted?12:25
ActionParsnip!info pastebinit | chegney12:25
ubottuchegney: pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3-4ubuntu1 (raring), package size 15 kB, installed size 172 kB12:25
Bretos`hello guys! I am looking for a way to boot linux livecd over PXE. Archlinux installer works OOTB, but I need something with X. Any suggestions? As I've seen, ubuntu  can't be booted over pxe out of the box12:25
BlueGuitarbonhoeffer: on all of them or just that one?12:26
ActionParsnipBretos`: Ive seen pxe installs of Ubuntu12:26
BlueGuitarbonhoeffer:  does dashes might be a problem12:26
bonhoefferjust that one -- i'm redownloading12:26
BlueGuitar*those bonhoeffer12:26
bonhoefferworks now -- thanks!12:27
BlueGuitarbonhoeffer: was it the dashes?12:28
rokkaSnake2k: managed to install somehow with the link you provided: its seems to install a desktop set of packages..i would like i server installation.. any ideas howto uninstall desktop related packages?12:28
chegneyubottu: weird, dpkg -l *paste* doesn't find that package12:28
ubottuchegney: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:28
ActionParsniprokka: uninstall xorg and the rest of deps with be marked for removal12:28
rokkaoh cool12:28
bonhoefferBlueGuitar, no -- bad file12:28
bonhoefferor new file worked12:28
ActionParsnipchegney: try:  apt-cache show pastebinit12:28
ActionParsnipchegney: dpkg will only show installed packages12:29
chegneyah, okay12:29
BlueGuitarbonhoeffer: where did you get your font?  dafonts?12:29
chegneynew to apt, came from archlinux12:29
bonhoefferBlueGuitar, bootstrap -- from github12:29
chegneyMonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6235678/12:31
chegneyoutput of free12:31
ReactoDoes OS-uninstaller remove grub too?12:31
ActionParsnipchegney: free -m | pastebinit12:31
Reactoor do I still have to get a win8 disk and repair the mbr12:31
ActionParsnipchegney: easier to read :)12:32
ActionParsnipReacto: what are you trying to do?12:32
Reactoclean install ubuntu12:32
Reactobut I've got win8 installed too12:32
ActionParsnipReacto: then why would you need anything but the install CD?12:32
Reactoto remove grub?12:33
chegneyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6235691/12:33
chegneyActionParsnip: my screen is all garbled after waking from suspend12:33
chegneyonly option is to reboot12:33
BlueGuitargot to go - ty all12:33
ActionParsnipchegney: try switching to TTY1 then back to TTY7 (desktop)12:35
chegneytty2 was garbled too, didnt try 712:38
BluesKajHiyas all12:38
wadieanyone ?12:41
cfhowlettwadie, what?12:42
ionelmchow can i download a source of a package but from another repository - do i need to add said repository ?12:42
bekksionelmc: Yes.12:42
ionelmchow can i add it without it affecting my packages ?12:42
ionelmc*my os12:42
ionelmci only want it for 1 source package12:42
bekksionelmc: Add it, run apt-get update, download the source, remove the ppa.12:42
ActionParsnipionelmc: add the repo, pull down the package, remove the repo12:42
karlowhen I span one window across 2+ monitors, the app menu on the top bar does not show up. Is it a known issue?12:43
ActionParsnipkarlo: check for bugs on launchpad12:46
ionelmcwhat if the said repo is the main (i'm running precise and i want the sources from saucy) ?12:47
ionelmcactually, i don't know if the package is in `main` - how do i find out?12:47
Roman__ehm.. Hi. I recently used Ubuntu Software Center (always used aptitude before) and signed in with my google account. Now I got permanent "Ubuntu — Full Account Access" in account preferences. If I revoke it, it just appears again some time later.12:47
Roman__I can change, the password12:48
flan_suseAnyone here using an Intel HD with SNA acceleration?12:48
Roman__But it's just wrong.12:48
PLMghello, I have issues connecting to my ubuntu server. Iptables are "disabled" and it has a static ip. Any sugestions?12:49
cfhowlett!anyone|flan_suse,12:49
ubottuflan_suse,: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.12:49
cfhowlettionelmc, you could wait a couple of weeks for the official release of the currently unsupported saucy ...12:50
PLMgMy main goal is to gain ssh access to it12:50
cfhowlettionelmc, for package info run apt-cache policy packagename12:50
flan_suseI have Intel HD graphics (System76). I am using the latest drivers from the xorg-edgers PPA, which uses SNA acceleration by default. However, if I use SNA, I get tearing. If I use UXA, I get no tearing at all. Here's the strange part. SNA *is* faster than UXA, but it suffers from tearing. So, I enable the TearFree option, and now the tearing is gone under SNA, but I get sluggish performance...12:51
flan_suseIs there any way to use Intel HD graphics, with SNA acceleration and no tearing, but without the performance hit? Everywhere I look, people seem to be doing just fine with SNA, and they boast how it's so much faster than UXA.12:51
flan_suseAny problems with tearing is "solved" by using TearFree. But in my case, this only slows things down, which is not worth it.12:52
ragusourceHey guys, does anyone know how to add a catchall email address on iredmail?12:53
bluechaosActionParsnip,12:53
bluechaosok i'm back12:53
bluechaoscan u give me a full tutorial how to install ubuntu from iso12:54
theromiQuick question: Is there no release candidate of saucy yet, or am I just to blind to find it?12:54
flan_susetheromi: Beta 2 is the "release candidate".12:54
bisampart12:54
theromiflan_suse: Okay, Thanks.12:54
flan_susetheromi: After Beta 2, official release comes out.12:55
cfhowlett!install|bluechaos,12:55
ubottubluechaos,: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate12:55
flan_susetheromi: That's how Ubuntu does it. Not all distros follow the same release policies.12:55
theromiflan_suse: Mh, the shedule mentions a release candidate, though.12:55
theromihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule12:55
bluechaoscfhowtell nothing help full12:56
philinuxtheromi: that will just be the milestone daily build iso on the day12:56
bluechaosthis version of ubuntu cannot see my DVD-wirter also I don`t have a external hdd ( usb eather ) ..12:57
chegneyexit12:57
philinuxtheromi: just get the current live from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/12:58
theromiphilinux: Thanks.12:58
flan_susetheromi: I think Beta 2 is the final image before the official.12:59
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flan_suseUnless it was changed again.12:59
scruzhi. i'm connected to a precise server which allows public-key authentication, so i'm not prompted for a password. i've installed postgresql, and it's running, but i cannot run any command as postgres with sudo - i'm prompted for a password. is there anything i can do? i'm trying to set up a web app.13:00
Touhou11There's usually a release candidate before the official13:01
philinuxTouhou11: not for a couple of cycles there hasn't13:01
Touhou11philinux: That's worrying, implies less testing13:01
philinuxit's just a milestone daily live now13:02
hitsujiTMOscruz as far as i know with postgres, you must be on the postrgres user to go anything in cli by default: try: sudo su postrgres13:02
jribscruz: say exactly what you are running13:02
philinuxnot worrying as there's more testing now13:02
hitsujiTMOtry: sudo su postgres    even13:02
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scruzubuntu 12.04 lts, and i can restart the postgresql service with sudo without a prompt, but once i try to do anything as the postgres user, i get the password prompt.13:03
philinuxTouhou11: they call it an RC but it's really the daily live on the day http://qa.ubuntu.com/2013/10/09/testers-assemble-final-rc-testing-is-here/13:03
edinnyI configured a VPN in lucid. How can I start it from the command line?13:03
jribscruz: say exactly the command that you are running...13:04
scruzsudo -u postgres createdb …13:04
jribscruz: why do you not expect a password prompt?13:04
scruzpostgres user account defaults to not having a password, iirc. ran same command today elsewhere, and it worked.13:05
BluesKajedinny. whynot use NM?13:05
edinnyNM?13:05
hitsujiTMOscruz the password is for the account you are logged in as13:05
jribscruz: you're running a command with sudo.  By default sudo will require you to input your user's password.13:05
BluesKajnetwork manager13:05
streulmadoes someone have the Dell Windows 7 Professional 32bit DVD without SP1 ? I lost mine13:05
hitsujiTMOsudo is requesting the password, not postgres13:06
edinnyBluesKaj: can nm run from the command line?13:06
cfhowlettstreulma, download it from digital river ... yuou13:06
scruzjrib: i'm using public key authentication. i don't know the password.13:06
jribscruz: then you cannot sudo.13:06
cfhowlettstreulma, you'll need that legal authorizatioon code however13:06
jribscruz: ask your sysadmin to reset your password13:06
hsnmckHi, I'm using lubuntu, I just installed vim-gnome and it installed other dependencies like libgnome, how can I undo what I just did. I mean, I want to remove vim-gnome with all the dependencies that were installed, apt-get remove does that?13:06
ReactoIs there a command I can do from the live iso to find where the grub partition is installed?13:06
scruzjrib: i have installed packages today without entering a password.13:06
ReactoThought I removed it, but it still boots the grub rescue terminal13:07
jribscruz: not possible by default.  But you could setup sudo to not prompt for a password for certain commands.13:07
bekksReacto: Grub is installed in the MBR of a disk or at the boot sector of a partition. Removing the package doesnt affect that.13:07
hitsujiTMOscruz: the server may be configured to allow you to run apt-get without a password,13:07
Touhou11hsnmck: There's a command which removes "orphaned" packages, left over from removals. I forget.13:08
BluesKajedinny.not sure what the path is13:08
MrElgq13:08
cgtdkautoremove13:08
edinnyBluesKaj: the path to what?13:09
hsnmckTouhou11, cgtdk, apt-get remove --auto-remove ?13:09
scruzhitsujiTMO: okay, thanks. i've already told the sysadmin, but i googled and came here to see if i could get anything else done.13:09
scruzjrib: thanks13:10
esseksHi! I'd like to install Ubuntu on a PC where is installed Debian Wheezy. The computer is quite old and cannot boot from a pendrive, but Grub is already at its place so: is it possible to chain load the installer on a USB key from Grub?13:10
hitsujiTMOhsnmck: apt-get autoremove13:10
esseksI have no spare CDs around...13:10
hsnmckhitsujiTMO, thanks13:10
BluesKajedinny.path tp the NM executable , besides using a gui is much easier if you're going connect to vpn server13:11
edinny/usr/bin/nm13:11
edinny nm - list symbols from object files?13:11
BluesKajwell, /usr/bin is the first to come to mind of course , but that doesn't work13:12
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innershows#ubuntu-cn ubuntu13:15
innershowsping timeout13:17
cfhowlett!ping|innershows,13:18
ubottuinnershows,: pong!13:18
ashoksahoohello every one, Greetings13:19
ActionParsnipesseks: does it have a floppy drive?13:20
ashoksahooso I was installing ubuntu netinstall13:21
ashoksahooand I slept without keeping the laptop in charge13:21
esseksActionParsnip, yes.13:22
ashoksahooand when I woke up, battry was empty, I am assuming, just the grub part was pending , anyway I can restore grub without installing13:22
ActionParsnipesseks: there is a floppy image on pendrivelinux to boot to first, it will then boot usb :)13:23
edinnyis nmcli available on Lucid?13:24
ActionParsnipedinny: i believe so, yes13:25
edinnyActionParsnip: do you know what package contains nmcli?13:25
ActionParsnip!find nmcli13:25
ubottuFile nmcli found in network-manager, plasma-widget-networkmanagement, plasma-widget-networkmanagement-dbg, zsh, zsh-beta13:25
edinnynetwork-manager is already the newest version13:28
vegaHello13:28
edinny sudo locate nmcli finds nothing13:29
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BluesKajedinny. nm isn'r exactly cli friendly13:29
Guest80043How do I uninstall gnome from Unity?13:29
edinnyBluesKaj: got to find it before I use it!13:30
Touhou11Guest80043: Unity contains difference pieces from the GNOME environment, so not sure it's possible13:30
cfhowlettGuest80043, slow down.  gnome was replaced by unity so ... your query makes no sense13:30
BluesKajedinny. but why?13:30
edinnyBluesKaj: so, how do I use it if it is not on my machine?13:31
edinny$ sudo nmcli13:31
edinnysudo: nmcli: command not found13:31
Guest80043I installed gnome from the software manager. Is there any way to remove the environment itself?13:31
cfhowlettGuest80043, go back to software center and delete13:32
hitsujiTMOGuest80043: sudo apt-get remove gnome && sudo apt-get autoremove13:32
Piciedinny: If the network-manager package is installed, then nmcli should be in /usr/bin/nmcli13:32
Guest80043Thank you for your help13:33
cfhowlettGuest80043, best o fluck13:34
edinnynmcli seems to be broken on Lucid13:37
ikoniaI don't think so13:37
ikoniawhy do you think it's broken13:37
edinnyIt is not there13:37
ikoniaerrr that's "missing" not broken13:37
vega_How do I uninstall kde environment?13:37
ikoniaand I suspect if it was missing, lots of people would have complained about it13:37
edinnyHow do I reinstall the network manager?13:38
rhumbothi all. i have a harddrive with 2 partition, each has a version of ubuntu installed. can i remove one of the partitions and ?add? it to my main partition?13:38
ikoniaedinny: remove the package and re-install it13:38
XethronI successfully installed Ubuntu 13.10. While booting the live CD, I had to activate Proprietary drivers for my Wireless. This worked fine and I was able to run the installation with Internet access...13:38
Piciedinny: What release of Ubuntu are you running and is the network-manager package installed?13:38
edinnyLucid. It is installed13:39
XethronAfter installation, I was once again unable to connect. I opened up "Software & Updates", went over to Additional Drivers, selected "Broadcom Corporation BCM43227 802.11b/g/n", and clicked Apply Changes13:39
XethronExactly like I did in the Live CD13:40
XethronHowever, after that, it selects the "Do not use this device" again...13:40
XethronAnd I can't seem to access the wireless13:40
XethronAny ideas?13:40
moppyHello. I wonder if anyone can tell me where to look? I lost sound on my raring desktop. It works fine on login (lightDM?) but once the desktop is up, all the meters and volume controls seem to work but there is no audio13:40
irenicus09hi guys13:41
Piciedinny: It looks like nmcli didn't exist in lucid.13:41
irenicus09anyone know what the service dns_masq is?13:41
XethronSo, in short: I can't seem to select WiFi Proprietary drivers for Broadcom Corporation BCM43227 802.11b/g/n13:41
irenicus09it seems to be listening on certain ports etc. how do I get rid of it ty13:41
edinnyPici: Any other way to start a VPN from my already made configuration without it?13:41
moppyirenicus09: perhaps this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnsmasq13:42
moppyoh better: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq13:42
jribirenicus09: why do you want to get rid of it?13:43
Piciedinny: I'm not sure, sorry.13:44
moppyit appears to eb  i the package "dnsmasq"13:44
irenicus09jrib: I'm not sure how I'm going to benefit form it etc. besides I don't like the idea of a running service that I don't really need13:44
edinnyhow do I remove the medibuntu repository? I can edit the file, but prefer not to13:44
BluesKaj!dnsmasq | irenicus0913:44
moppyi wouldnt remove it, it's installed on my system so it's probably essential13:44
cfhowlettedinny, you can do that in software center settings > software sources13:44
edinnycfhowlett: from the command line?13:45
BluesKaj!info dnsmasq13:45
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ubottudnsmasq (source: dnsmasq): Small caching DNS proxy and DHCP/TFTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.65-1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 15 kB, installed size 110 kB13:45
BluesKajirenicus09.^13:45
cfhowlettedinny, sudo gedit apt/sources.list  if I recall correctly13:45
edinnyI knew that. thought there was a command13:46
DJonesedinny: cfhowlett gksudo rather than sudo though13:46
moppySo anyone have any idea why I might not have sound ? Everything seems to work but no audio. It works during the login screen. I assume its threfore a desktop component not working?13:46
cfhowlettedinny, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    IS  a command.  open the file, delete the references or comment them to inactive with a * prefix13:46
cfhowlettDJones, for gedit?  OK13:47
edinnyI renamed the file in sources.list.d13:47
irenicus09BluesKaj: thanks...I guess since it's a caching proxy it's gonna speed things up right13:47
DJonescfhowlett: Yeah, for any graphical based apps, sudo doesn't always set the right environment varioables13:47
DJones!gksudo | cfhowlett13:47
ubottucfhowlett: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)13:47
irenicus09guess I'll keep it13:47
cfhowlettDJones, good to know.13:48
irenicus09Also I noticed this other service running: gvfsd-http is that because of the package manager13:49
irenicus09I mean  software center13:49
BluesKajirenicus09. supposedly , I've used dnsmasq in the past but never noticed much difference  speedwise13:50
irenicus09BluesKaj: I think on slower connections it would make a difference cos they'd be able to skip already downloaded contented from being fetched etc.13:50
jribirenicus09: it doesn't cache by default13:50
irenicus09jrib: how do I enable the cache-ing featur13:51
irenicus09feature*13:51
jribirenicus09: i don't know.  Did the wiki have intsructions?13:51
edinnynmcli problem solved. needed to add repostitory network-manager-trunk-lucid.13:53
BluesKajirenicus09. since I started using NM again I haven't bothered with dnsmasq , and my connection is a plain jane adsl which is pretty slow by the latest stds13:53
edinny...also needed to remove outdated medibuntu repository13:54
cfhowlettedinny, maybe you said why, but WHY are you on lucid?  eol on the desktop you know ...13:55
cfhowlett!lucid13:55
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu.  Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support continues. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.13:55
irenicus09BluesKaj: hmm...I guess then it doesnt make much of a difference13:56
edinnycfhowlett: I have been asking how to use COMMAND LINE commands. Waiting for next LTS before I upgrade13:56
BluesKajirenicus09. well ,not here anyway13:56
cfhowlettedinny, you mean ... 12.04 IS the next LTS ...13:56
tilerenderingthis is totally strange13:56
tilerenderingI have 2 users13:57
vega_Hi when I installed kde it changed my defualt login screen to kubuntu style how do I change it back to ubuntu defualt?13:57
osubuntuhello but how can i change system locale?13:57
tilerenderingone is in 3 groups, the other one is in the same 3 groups PLUS the group sudo13:57
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tilerenderingthe first one can access the tomcat directory13:57
tilerenderingthe second cant13:57
osubuntudo i have to export LANG and LANGUAGE?13:57
cfhowlettvega_, logout.  click the ubuntu gear to choose a different environment. login13:57
tilerenderingalthough he is in the same group as the first one, plus in the sudo group13:57
tilerenderingany ideas ?13:57
osubuntuubuntu gear turns out to be galaxy gear xD13:58
edinnyWaiting for 14.04.13:58
cfhowlettedinny, cool13:58
streulmais there a rescue cd to recover files from ntfs ?13:58
osubuntuedinny, you have to wait more than 2147483647 seconds13:58
Wiz_KeeDguys13:58
cfhowlettosubuntu, no idea what that means but then I'm in Ubuntustudio/xfce13:59
vega_Thanks cfh but that's not my problem. Whenever I boot up my computer the login screen is kde styled, I want it to be ubuntu styled like the original one13:59
Wiz_KeeDHow do I do /etc/init.d/apach2 restart over ssh on a remote server?13:59
osubuntucfhowlett, how can I change the system locale?13:59
ActionParsnipstreulma: you can use foremost13:59
cfhowlettstreulma, just boot your ubuntu cd and rescue away13:59
ActionParsnipstreulma: why do you not have a backup?13:59
osubuntudefault is Korean but i want to change it into English13:59
cfhowlettosubuntu, don't know how to do that from the command line ... sorry13:59
robottihello!13:59
Wiz_KeeDanyone?13:59
osubuntuCommand line is super convinient to geeks xD14:00
robottihow to set up multi-seat system with nvidia and intel gpu?14:00
edinnyosubuntu: Give me a break. Got rid of all my RHEL 3 and 4 machines!14:00
Snake2kWiz_KeeD: sudo service apache2 restart14:00
ActionParsnipWiz_KeeD: anyone what?14:00
robottiI am using closed source nvidia driver with nvidia gpu14:00
Snake2kI think that works14:00
Wiz_KeeDSnake2k, over ssh14:00
Wiz_KeeDon a remote server14:00
ActionParsniprobotti: did you install bumblebee14:00
Wiz_KeeDone command14:00
robottiActionParsnip: not yet14:01
vega_how do I change my login screen to ubuntu defualt?14:01
osubuntuedinny, then you must wait another 4294967296 seconds xD14:01
hitsujiTMOosubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale   look at /etc/default/locale or update-locale14:01
robottiActionParsnip: bumblebee is needed to use multiseat system?14:01
osubuntusudo vim /etc/default/locale ?14:01
robottiActionParsnip: I want set system with two users same time14:01
osubuntuhitsujiTMO, tHanKs14:02
robottithat is able to handle two users14:02
ActionParsniprobotti: its needed to handle optimus14:02
XethronI can't seem to select WiFi Proprietary drivers for Broadcom Corporation BCM43227 802.11b/g/n on Ubuntu 13.10. It worked in the Live CD, but doesn't work after installation14:02
osubuntubtw is this channel for only ubuntu servers? excluding ubuntu desktop or ubuntu touch?14:02
Snake2kWiz_KeeD: connect as root@whatever, then /etc/init.d/apache2 stop, then /etc/init.d/apache2 start, I don't know how to get it done with one command14:02
Snake2kWiz_KeeD: maybe use &&14:02
robottiActionParsnip: my computer is not laptop14:02
Wiz_KeeDssh ip /etc/init.d/apache2 restart14:03
robottiActionParsnip: does it matter?14:03
Snake2kvega_: lightdm14:03
osubunturobotti, is it desktop?14:03
Wiz_KeeDseems to work but I do not have permission by default so I would have to exclude this command from sudo, can anyone help with that?14:03
osubuntuWiz KeeD, you must be in the sudoers list.14:03
robottiosubuntu: yes. I have intel igpu HD 3000 and nvidia gtx 46014:03
osubunturobotti, but i have laptop :P14:04
hitsujiTMOrobotti14:04
osubuntuWiz KeeD, if you're not in the sudoers list (sudo group), the incident will be reported D:14:04
hitsujiTMOrobotti: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX14:04
vega_How do I switch from lightdm to something else?14:04
Wiz_KeeDI am in sudoers14:04
Wiz_KeeDbut it asks for password and for this to work in one command over ssh i would have to remove that14:05
robottihitsujiTMO: should I set two X servers?14:05
robottihitsujiTMO: one for intel and one for nvidia?14:05
osubuntuWiz KeeD, than type sudo -s, passwd and set root's password xD14:05
robottione for using nvidia closed source driver and one for intel open source driver?14:05
osubuntuWiz KeeD, then you would be able to login into root and become root of a plant14:06
k1losubuntu: stop that. that is no recommended in here14:06
hitsujiTMOrobotti: that should not be required14:06
zykotick9!noroot | Wiz_KeeD osubuntu14:06
ubottuWiz_KeeD osubuntu: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.14:06
ActionParsnipWiz_KeeD: you can add the command into sudoers so that a password is not needed for that command for a particular user group14:06
osubuntuoh i see thx zykotick914:07
osubuntu!root14:07
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo14:07
ActionParsniposubuntu: you can do it a lot sleeker than enabling root, please dont advise users how to break their OS14:07
osubuntuwas that advice?!14:07
osubuntui thought he was asking that..must be my mistake sorry D:14:07
osubuntu!wfm14:08
ubottuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/14:08
Snake2kvega_: install gdm, kdm, slim or mdm, whichever one you want, then do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <new display manager>" like for configuring gdm you do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"14:08
ActionParsniposubuntu: giving users commands......yes, that's advise14:08
jasabellais vi's commands supposed to emulate other shell utilities and vice versa or is the system set up this way? is this just a happy coincidence?14:08
r7_I installed Xubuntu on BTRFS filesystem. And I have this error at startup: "sparse file not found, press any key to continue"14:08
osubuntucommand = advice = recommand14:08
osubuntuso i see that commands are just advice. thanks for that14:08
ActionParsnipjasabella: vi's commands are pretty much standard across all distros. That's the beauty of vi14:08
vega_Thank you Snake2k14:08
Snake2kvega_: just a heads up, Slim causes a few problems, so its best not to play around with Slim, stick with lightdm, gdm or kdm14:09
Snake2kvega_: No problem :)14:09
irenicus09why is its that vi and vim are so different :(14:09
Piciirenicus09: because vim is vi improved.14:09
jasabellais it vi or vim taht comes with ubuntu server as standard?14:09
jasabella(sorry, im a newbie)14:09
ActionParsnipirenicus09: just choose one and use it :)14:09
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ActionParsnipjasabella: vi is on every linux distro14:10
zykotick9irenicus09: actually then are both really vim.  vim-tiny vs vim, is your "vi vs vim" question...14:10
vega_Thanks for your help again Snake2k, I have one more question. What is the difference between these managers?14:10
irenicus09ActionParsnip: I really like vim...but when I try to use vi like vim it kinda doesnt work that way :[14:10
zykotick9ActionParsnip: ;) vi is on every POSIX distro14:10
jasabellai can use some vim commands in info and man and less, that s great :)14:10
osubuntu!quit14:11
osubuntusorry14:11
ActionParsnipzykotick9: blah blah :)14:11
jasabellalike / for search and n or N to step thru them14:11
osubuntuit was /quit..14:11
Wiz_KeeDActionParsnip, that is exactly what I wanted to do14:11
Snake2kvega_: Well, honestly, just the way it looks, its all preference, I prefer lightdm (the default), some people like gdm or kdm or slim, just compare their pictures on google images and get the one you like most lol14:11
Snake2kvega_: And, no problem :)14:11
vega_Awesome. Thank you14:12
exalthello, why does ubuntu use two runlevels instead of 6 by other distros?14:13
zykotick9exalt: because ubuntu is based on debian, and that's what debian does...14:13
r7_Anyone installed Xubuntu/Ubuntu on BTRFS can support me?14:14
zykotick9exalt: and that isn't exactly correct statement.14:15
streulmawhat is the best Linux to use for work guys ?14:15
streulmaUbuntu LTS or 13.04 or .10 ?14:16
Touhou11r7_: BTRFS isn't stable yet, not recommended for general use14:16
hitsujiTMOexalt: because what the extra runlevels were intended for is obsolete in modern systems14:16
edinnystreulma, the best linux to use, in general, is one you can get support for...preferably LOCALLY14:16
geirhastreulma: Depends what you need. If you don't mind software being slightly old, I'd go with LTS14:16
r7_Touhou11,  I am testing it because my laptop doesn't have any critical files. So far it was stable in quite some distros. They main website says the current version is unlikely to change.14:17
k1lstreulma: if you need to ask about stability use the LTS versions14:17
hitsujiTMOstreulma: lts is recommended for a professional environment14:18
vedicHey guys, I have downloaded an old svn repository. It had worked previously but now when I do ./configure , It says "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory" . I don't remember how I did it last time. Any ideas? I see there is a autogen.sh file.14:18
r7_Can I resize /dev/hda1 so I can add a partition just for booting?14:18
r7_sda*14:18
vedicThere is configure.in file as well14:19
replicantfrom what i'm reading.. there is no way to enable r/w access for an hfs+ formatted drive unless you are able to get that drive onto an osx machine to disable the journaling.. correct?14:19
Wiz_KeeDit's wierd that if I do apache restart logged in it works without asking password but if i do from local ssh ip /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it says permission denied14:19
geirhavedic: autogen.sh will generate the configure script14:19
qum_qum,14:19
Touhou11streulma: I use Debian Stable for work purposes14:19
vedicgeirha: It says: autogen.sh: 6: autogen.sh: aclocal: not found; autogen.sh: 7: autogen.sh: autoheader: not found; autogen.sh: 8: autogen.sh: automake: not found; autogen.sh: 9: autogen.sh: autoconf: not found14:20
jasabellamy ubuntu install is living in a vm and the internet connection appears to have died, any pointers?14:20
sayresi installed xubuntu 13.4 on my laptop.i dont know why firefox cant open my sait?i got "Unable to connect" error.my sait is www.tazik.ir   what's your idea?14:20
Wiz_KeeDanyone knows why that happens?14:21
zykotick9sayres: fyi, i think you mean site14:21
r7_ok I had some hopes to find help here, but since I didn't I will have to reinstall Xubuntu and make a separate /boot partition for it. Thanks for those who tried.14:21
geirhavedic: sudo apt-get install build-essential   you might need more packages. aclocal is installed by the automake package14:21
sayreszykotick9 : ops ,yes site14:21
Wiz_KeeDactually I was wrong14:22
Wiz_KeeDActionParsnip, it still does not allow me to restart the server without password prompt14:22
ActionParsnipWiz_KeeD: it will, you need to add an entry in sudoers to allow the command to run without password, you can make a group and add your user to it, then log off and on.14:26
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jasabellais there a reason for arp to drop off?14:27
bekksjasabella: What do you mean by "arp drop off"?14:29
Wiz_KeeDActionParsnip, do you have a tutorial that shows how to do that?14:29
jasabellawell right now my ubuntu install in a vm has lost internet connectivity14:29
jasabellawhen i do service networking restart14:29
Wiz_KeeDActionParsnip, wiz ALL=NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/openerp-server restart <== I have this at the end of the file14:29
ActionParsnipWiz_KeeD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers   shows how14:29
jasabellait will list my devices, after a while, it wont list anything14:29
ActionParsnipWiz_KeeD: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39281/how-to-run-an-application-using-sudo-without-a-password14:30
jasabellaifconfig is still showing my manual settings for ip address/mask and broadcast14:30
jasabellai cant even ping my gateway14:30
ActionParsnipjasabella: can you ping your gatreway?14:30
jasabellanope14:30
ActionParsnipjasabella: is routing set ok?14:30
jasabellaoh hang on, i can now hmmm14:31
jasabellai get (DUP!)14:31
jasabellaok i gotta check routing14:31
jasabella(i dont know what to look for? )14:31
bekksjasabella: netstat -rn14:32
jasabellaoh same as route :D14:32
Wiz_KeeDstart-stop-daemon: unable to open pidfile '/var/run/openerp-server.pid' for writing (Permission denied) that's the issue14:32
ashuhello14:32
jasabelladestination 0.0.0.0, gateway 192.168.1.1, genmask 0.0.0.0, flags UG iface eth014:32
jasabellaseems right14:32
ciencistoHello! I'd need help with my open source drivers...14:32
jasabella(from the little that i know)14:32
jasabellawhat's genmask? :)14:33
jasabellaooohh it's in man :)14:33
vedicgeirha: Thanks. It worked14:33
Wiz_KeeDnvm, i'm an idiot14:33
Anomie_workwas the mail command removed in the mailutils package? What was this replaced with does anyone know?14:34
ciencistoI've installed fglrx-updates on my desktop computer, but after trying my Live CD, I've found out that the Live CD had faster graphics14:34
ciencistoAnd the Live CD uses open source drivers14:34
jasabellanslookup isnt working :(14:34
ActionParsnipjasabella: then check your nameservers.14:35
ActionParsnipjasabella: try:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null14:35
ActionParsnipjasabella: then try nslookup14:35
ciencistoI've tried switching from fglrx-updates to the open source drivers, but I can't get my native resolution somehow14:35
ciencistoCould anybody help me?14:36
ActionParsnipciencisto: you may need an xorg.conf file14:37
jasabellano reply from google dns server :(14:37
ciencistoActionParsnip: Alright. How can I get one?14:37
jasabellaconnection timed out; no servers could be reached14:37
bekksjasabella: That happens. There is no guarantee that a DNS server will answer.14:37
jasabellahehe if it's udp one14:38
bekksEven if it is TCP.14:38
jasabellaoh14:38
ActionParsnipciencisto: you can make one, there is also a command to spit a skeleton file out, see the !ati link ubottu has14:38
jasabellai did do sudo apt-get purge open-vm-tools earlier14:38
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jasabellaand sudo apt-get autoremove14:38
jasabelladid it remove a package and kill my internet? :/14:39
jasabella(not supposed to happen from what i understand but i? a newbie)14:39
Touhou11ActionParsnip: Recommending Google DNS is a rather bad idea, given their relationship with the NSA14:39
PDvicyes mom14:39
bekksTouhou11: Ouh yes. They will spy on you by sending dns answers.14:40
PDvicNSA is here to protect you14:40
jasabellaTouhou11, they have a clear polcy regarding it14:40
ActionParsnipTouhou11: i don't care. Its for testing14:40
ActionParsnipTouhou11: try a smaller tinfoil hat collection, ok14:40
Touhou11jasabella: When the NSA makes every organization sign a NDA, any policies are presumed to be dishonest unfortunately14:41
ActionParsnipTouhou11: its a dead easy IP to remember and if it made the user's system work, we have isolated the issue14:41
jasabellahttps://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy14:41
ActionParsnipTouhou11: the file is generated at reboot, so is easy to undo14:41
ciencistoActionParsnip: Make one myself? Oh God I'm not very good with Linux commands et al.14:41
PDvicNSA Nations Sexier Arses14:41
jasabellaTouhou11, i suppose :)14:41
ActionParsnip!ati | ciencisto14:41
ubottuciencisto: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto14:41
ActionParsnipciencisto: nobody is born knowing either, the link ubottu gives show you the command14:41
ActionParsnipTouhou11: so its no bad thing to use google dns, in this case. Is it?14:41
jasabellai tried reverse look up of 8.8.8.8  :)14:41
ciencistoActionParsnip: Oh great, thanks, checking that out14:42
jasabelladidnt work :/14:42
PDvicgoogle is your friend14:42
ActionParsnipPDvic: I prefer the duck :)14:42
jasabelladuckduckgoose hehe14:42
Touhou11ActionParsnip: While DNS requests don't reveal very much, I'd still rather than not supply the NSA with more data for correlation. Up to you though.14:42
ActionParsnipduckduckgo :)14:42
ciencistoHmm, so I have 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670]14:42
ActionParsnipTouhou11: again, its for a quick test.14:42
ActionParsnipTouhou11: I'm sure 2 or 3 requests isn't going to help them scan your brain patterns via satellite14:43
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Touhou11ActionParsnip: I'd rather not joke about such things, who knows what technology is in Google Glass ;)14:44
bekksActionParsnip: Thats what they want you to believe ;)14:44
ActionParsnipbekks: oh noes14:44
ActionParsnipTouhou11: in short you are too paranoid, i'm not even remotely bothered and I'm still alive with a full quota of limbs..... weird huh14:44
lolui hear they can remotely turn Galss users blind!! ;)14:45
PDvicwhy you got something to hide?14:45
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PDvici hear they can make peoples clothing tranparent14:45
Touhou11ActionParsnip: Do you not follow the news? Any paranoia is justifiable given the revelations about Google's close involvement with the NSA. Winston Smith was alive too14:46
jasabellai? at a loss of whats happening :(14:46
jasabellai rebooted the vm several times lareayd14:46
jasabellaand restarted networking service14:46
PDvici found my hardwaer dumpster diving14:46
gordonjcpPDvic: best kind14:46
gordonjcpPDvic: what's the difference between a computer out of the bins, and a computer off eBay?14:47
gordonjcpPDvic: one out of a bin might work...14:47
jasabellai goto a place where they sell preloved hardware :)14:48
jasabellagot a cheap modem, wifi router and portable printer14:48
ActionParsnipTouhou11: I know of it, i just dont care14:48
kamahi all14:48
ActionParsnipTouhou11: again, still alive, no ill affects14:48
kamahi all14:48
ActionParsnipTouhou11: so where is the problem?14:48
Bretos`I am looking for a LiveCD, which can boot over PXE out of the box, just like ArchLinux livecd, but I need something with X environment. Any suggestions?14:48
ciencistoActionParsnip: That'll be okay, thank you very much! :)14:49
ActionParsnipjasabella: I'd ask in a vmware channel14:49
Touhou11ActionParsnip: People in North Korea are alive, but their situation and lack of freedom is not desirable. Google is helping propogate such a situation14:49
zohannight all14:49
auronandace!ot | Touhou1114:49
ubottuTouhou11: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:49
jasabellaso i've done all there is in ubuntu?14:49
kamahow to know whether grub is install to mbr?14:50
bekksTouhou11: Ouh, I'm off of your paranoia - first, google is driven by the NSA, now they are supporting North Korea. What next. Ignore set.14:50
ActionParsnipjasabella: no, its just an extra avenue of help.14:50
jasabella(i? still learning btw, i will repeat these steps if i ever have the same problem again!)14:50
jasabellaoh14:50
irenicus09hi guys is it possible to get openbox or some other desktop nevironments to run on ubuntu?14:50
jasabellaok14:50
gordonjcpirenicus09: yes14:50
irenicus09gordonjcp: how exactly do I switch to the other one14:50
Touhou11bekks: Eric Schmidt of Google visited North Korea fairly recently14:50
irenicus09I mean when I login I don't see any option14:51
irenicus09to select the wm or de14:51
jasabellathank you for your help, i appreciate it :014:51
gordonjcpirenicus09: when you install another DE you'll see a little logo beside your name at the login screen14:51
jasabella:)14:51
bekkskama: By looking at the content - or by re-installing grub to the MBR in case of doubt.14:51
PDvicgoogle uses ubuntu14:51
cgtdkirenicus09: Yes it is very possible14:51
irenicus09gordonjcp: hmm I just uninstalled unity and added gnome3 ppa and now I dont see gnome314:51
irenicus09and when  login to noral desktop everything is so fukd haha14:52
jasabellai'm finding it dizzying to keep track of all the various conf files around the place14:52
cgtdkirenicus09: did you just add the PPA or did you install it?14:52
bekksPDvic: So Ubuntu supports North Korea. </ot>14:52
BluesKajTouhou11. and the chinese have a secret base on the dark side ofd the moon ,from which they'll eventually rule the earth14:52
irenicus09ppa14:52
ActionParsnipirenicus09: openbox isnt a desktop environment14:52
irenicus09ActionParsnip: I'm aware of that bro haha14:52
cgtdkirenicus09: You have to install the software from the PPA to get it. It's not enough just to add the PPA.14:52
ActionParsnipirenicus09: if you install openbox, you can select the session in Lightdm14:52
irenicus09cgtdk: already did14:52
cgtdkYou're using lightdm, right?14:52
ActionParsnipirenicus09: or install lxde and use that lxde desktop with openbox wm14:53
irenicus09cgtdk: ya14:53
PDvicnorth korea are NSA lovers14:53
PDvicor its the other way around14:53
PDvicimagine if hitler had the internet14:53
auronandacedon't people get kicked for persisting in off-topic chat in here anymore?14:53
ActionParsnipauronandace: apparently not14:54
irenicus09ActionParsnip: is it possible to just install openbox and get on it without installing lxde?14:54
auronandacePici: thanks14:54
cgtdkirenicus09: Yes14:54
PDvicyou dont like the truth14:54
Pici!guidelines > PDvic14:54
ubottuPDvic, please see my private message14:54
ActionParsnipirenicus09: sure, just install openbox and you should get it as an option in the login screen14:54
PiciPDvic: knock it off, this is a support channel.14:54
irenicus09cgtdk: ok giving it a try14:54
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ActionParsnipirenicus09: you can always make your own session file which will be selectable at login to just run openbox14:54
PDvicsome one mentioned north korea?14:55
ActionParsnipPDvic: its offtopic as it is not support related14:56
chegneywhat package is urxvt part of? ubuntu won't let me install outright14:56
auronandacePDvic: you don't have to continue the discussion, this channel is for support issues with ubuntu14:56
kostkon!find urxvt14:56
penguinRaiderHi I am trying to use cobbler to connect to a machine via PXE and install ubuntu . I am trying to preseed so that I dont have to enter anything the seed being http://paste.ubuntu.com/6236210/ particularly the network interface and partition . I used debconf-get-selections to those lines  I thought these lines might help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6236213/ . But I still have to make interface selection and I dont get to partition screen now . Any help ? Than14:56
penguinRaiderks14:56
ubottuFile urxvt found in fvwm-crystal, libexo-helpers, rxvt-unicode, rxvt-unicode-256color, rxvt-unicode-lite, zsh, zsh-beta14:56
chegneyah, nevermind14:57
chegneyrxvt-unicode is the package name14:57
PDvicubuntu is coming of age it dosent need support channel anymore15:00
daninozhi guys, is 12.04 with a kernel update better than 13.10 ?15:04
PDvicthats a matter of taste15:04
auronandacedaninoz: qualify better15:05
PDvichahaha15:05
ActionParsnipdaninoz: 12.04 is LTS, so supported til April 2017. Saucy is considerably shorter15:05
daninozauronandace: more stable15:05
ActionParsnipdaninoz: 12.04 is the LTS release, so will be more stable15:05
daninozActionParsnip: even with a kernel update?15:06
ActionParsnipdaninoz: yes15:06
PDvic12.04 is rock 13.10 is paper15:06
ActionParsnipdaninoz: the LTS aims to be as solid as possible15:06
zohanthe kernel 3.11.5 released today15:06
PDvicim excited15:06
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zohanstable kernel15:06
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ActionParsnipzohan: saucy has 3.11.015:07
daninozActionParsnip: ok, great.15:07
chegneyis it a complete reinstall when 13 becomes lts?15:08
auronandacechegney: there is no 13, the next lts is 14.0415:08
PDvicisnt the ubuntu orange the same exact tone as the prison uniforms?15:08
ActionParsnipchegney: 13.04 and 13.10 will never be LTS15:09
chegneyokay the next lts release what is the upgrade process from 12.04 lts15:09
auronandacedaninoz: if you are using a kernel from outside the official repos then we can't support you (it will be less stable)15:09
auronandacechegney: you can upgrade directly from lts to lts15:10
rasperbonjour, quelqu'un peux m'aider sur un problème hostAP, => l'AP est bien visible mais impossible de s'y connecter (ni en WPA ni sans securité)15:10
chegneyso an apt-get upgrade or something like that?15:11
ActionParsnipchegney: you can upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 directly, it is the next release15:11
ActionParsnip!upgrade | chegney15:11
ubottuchegney: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade15:11
auronandace!fr | rasper15:11
ubotturasper: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.15:11
raspersorry, thanks ;)15:11
SuperLagif you're downloading a package that requires you to accept a license agreement to install it, is there any way to automate that, so you can put it in a script and not have it either break the script or hold everything up? The package in question is ttf-mscorefonts-installer15:13
jribSuperLag: search about "debconf preseed"15:14
datoneren toen was er koffie15:18
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MonkeyDustdouwe egberts koffie15:19
erle-why is ubuntu so slow in virtual box (on ubuntu)?15:20
erle-it was fine years ago15:20
erle-but since a year or two it is just slow15:20
erle-on the same machines15:20
cgtdkperhaps because of Unity15:20
fanandy_he15:20
erle-cgtdk, i dont use unity15:21
cgtdkWhat then?15:21
erle-cgtdk, same with old ubuntu versions with gnome 2 classic15:21
cgtdkI see15:21
ActionParsniperle-: compiz probably chewing the system down. Try LXDE or XFCE instead15:22
ActionParsniperle-: if you use Precise, use Unity2D and it will also be ok15:23
OerHekserle-, maybe your videocard is aging, ati 2xxx/3xxx/4xxx ?15:24
Touhou11A desktop shell shouldn't take an accelerated video card, even an older one15:24
ActionParsnipTopslack: sadly, compiz does15:25
erle-ActionParsnip, even the setup is unusable15:26
erle-ActionParsnip, mouse not really movable to buttons15:26
erle-erle-, i did not come to any choice of DEs15:26
ActionParsniperle-: which release are you on?15:26
ActionParsniperle-: cat /etc/issue    in a terminal will tell you15:27
erle-ActionParsnip, i am on 13.04 and want to try 13.10-rc15:28
erle-ActionParsnip, but thats not my problem, i wanted to ask a general report why it is slow since years now, while it was working fine like 2 years ago15:28
erle-ActionParsnip, in a nutshell: who broke what?15:28
erle-ActionParsnip, i think it is the hosts fault btw, other distros also seem slow to unusable, without any desktop fancy effects15:29
sebkirllerHey does anyone know a fix for hexxit on Ubuntu 13.10. It's the white screen never loading bug15:30
erle-ActionParsnip, including 3 year old distros with gnome 215:30
MonkeyDust!find hexxit15:30
ubottuPackage/file hexxit does not exist in raring15:30
sebkirllerSo how do I fix it? sorry a bit new to linux15:30
DJones!13.10 | sebkirller15:30
ubottusebkirller: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.15:30
blzHello, I'm trying to export 4 distinct folders via nfs (each with it's own mountpoint, i.e.:  server:/export/folder_name), but all four of these mountpoints appear to point to the same directory.  Here is my fstab file with the NFS filesystem at the bottom, followed by my /etc/exports:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217970/  && http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217973/   What am I doing wrong?15:31
nardevhello, is there any application in repos that i can use to extract/edit FLA (flash source) files. No meter how primitive. I just need to grab some text from there?15:32
ActionParsniperr-or: as far as I can see, metacity is not used and compiz is used15:33
ActionParsnipoh15:33
ecthienderhello when I resume from suspended machine, it fails, and restarts. any clues what should I be doing to fix it?15:34
Wiz_KeeDis there any way to check the last few ip's who have connected to the ubuntu server via http?15:34
Wiz_KeeDon a certain port if that helps15:34
ecthienderI am running ubuntu 13.0415:34
ecthienderon a thinkpad e43015:35
ecthienderit used to work fine. its behaving this way since a month now.15:35
danny4wayI am trying to install NetBean but can't.15:35
tgm4883Wiz_KeeD, if you are running apache, there is an access log15:35
Wiz_KeeDi'm afraid not tgm15:35
Wiz_KeeDtgm4883,15:35
danny4wayI already downloaded .sh file but don't know how to install it through terminal15:35
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bekksdanny4way: sh filename.sh15:36
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danny4wayit says can't open netbeans-7.3.1-javaee-linux.sh15:37
danny4waybekks15:37
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danny4wayhttp://techgurdian.blogspot.com/2013/06/installing-netbeans-731-in-ubuntu-1304.html15:38
danny4waythis is a software that I am trying to install.15:38
danny4wayI already download the file and it's called "netbeans-7.3.1-javaee-linux.sh15:38
SuperLagjrib: thank you15:41
SuperLagis there a way to remove icons from the launcher in a script?15:41
MonkeyDustSuperLag  first look in dconf-editor15:42
SuperLagas opposed to right-click and "Unlock from launcher'15:42
MangaKaDenzayo dawgs15:43
mPrometheussup MangaKaDenza15:43
MangaKaDenzahow do I put the powder toy in ubuntu so I can powdertoy ?15:43
danny4wayAnyone knows?15:43
chegneyisn't the executable for chromium browser "chromium"?15:44
danny4wayHow to install a file through terminal?15:44
MonkeyDustchegney  chromium-browser15:44
Zaldanny4way, what do you mean "install"?15:44
GZA-Geniusdanny4way: what you mean?15:44
chegneywell, that deserves a symbolic link15:44
danny4wayhttp://techgurdian.blogspot.com/2013/06/installing-netbeans-731-in-ubuntu-1304.html15:45
danny4wayThis is what I am trying to install15:45
danny4wayBut after I downloaded I can't install it through terminal15:45
danny4wayGZA-Genius15:45
danny4wayZal15:45
Zaldanny4way, that link provides exact instructions. Which instruction are you having trouble understanding?15:46
qumHi. i got an issue with my networking. I'm on 12.04 ubuntu. I got 2 ethernet built in adapters on my motherboard. Each time i restart the system, i need to switch my network cable to other adapter for the internet to work. ANy solution?15:47
danny4wayInstruction 415:47
danny4wayWhere it says to install Netbeans15:47
Zaldanny4way, ok, what do you not understand about it?15:47
bekksdanny4way: Run the installer: sh filename.sh15:47
SuperLagMonkeyDust: dconf-editor requires manual intervention and cannot be run from a script15:48
danny4wayIt says sh: 0: Can't open netbeans-7.3.1-javaee-linux.sh bekks15:48
belakWhen/where will the release party be (which channel)?15:48
qumHi. i got an issue with my networking. I'm on 12.04 ubuntu. I got 2 ethernet built in adapters on my motherboard. Each time i restart the system, i need to switch my network cable to other adapter for the internet to work. ANy solution?15:49
tgm4883belak, probably  #ubuntu-release-party15:49
pentesteris it possible to do a net install from live usb15:50
bobapplepieis there a way to put the percentage next to the battery in unity15:51
MangaKaDenzahmm15:51
MangaKaDenzaanother question15:52
MangaKaDenzaDoes anyone know why I cant get files off my zune into ubuntu?15:52
MangaKaDenzaI mean15:52
MangaKaDenzaI plugged in my zune the other day15:52
MangaKaDenzaI could see most of the files15:52
MangaKaDenzabut when I tried to copy15:52
MangaKaDenzaI kept getting errors15:52
wylde!enter | MangaKaDenza15:52
ubottuMangaKaDenza: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!15:52
blzHello, I'm trying to export 4 distinct folders via nfs (each with it's own mountpoint, i.e.:  server:/export/folder_name), but all four of these mountpoints appear to point to the same directory.  Here is my fstab file with the NFS filesystem at the bottom, followed by my /etc/exports:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217970/  && http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217973/   What am I doing wrong?15:53
MangaKaDenzaI also tried playing directly from the device through vlc, but that also didn't work15:53
ActionParsnipbobapplepie: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue15:53
MangaKaDenzawylde, yes I'll consider that, but help would be more useful15:53
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MonkeyDustMangaKaDenza  isnt Zune a Microsoft thingy?15:55
chegneyyes15:55
MangaKaDenzaMonkeyDust, yes15:56
ActionParsnipbobapplepie: its a simple terminal command, copy the output and paste in the channel (its one line so is ok)15:56
MangaKaDenzaI could install the client via wine15:56
chegneyit was their attempt at an iPod15:56
MangaKaDenzabut I hear it doesn't work15:56
soberwhy my ubuntu is so slow even if max cpu utilization is around 18% by compiz and a bit by chrome15:56
MangaKaDenzameh15:56
ActionParsnipMangaKaDenza: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/natty/qlix/15:56
MangaKaDenzaI'll try installing15:56
ActionParsnip!info qlix15:57
ubottuqlix (source: qlix): Manage MTP devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.6-0ubuntu4 (raring), package size 308 kB, installed size 754 kB15:57
OerHeksMangaKaDenza, untill someone cracks the ZMTP protocol, zune is no use on linux.15:57
ActionParsnipclementine may also like it15:57
MangaKaDenzaActionParsnip, thanks15:57
Zalblz, hm, you're mounting with "bind" option, while exports are typically per-filesystem, not per directory. I'm not sure, but the "crossmnt" option might be what you need in exports.15:58
MonkeyDustwhat's MTP?15:58
qumGuys, no one can help me? :(((15:58
ActionParsnipMonkeyDust: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol15:58
MonkeyDustqum  start with a question15:58
qumMonkeyDust,  i stated my question 3 times :/15:59
qumHi. i got an issue with my networking. I'm on 12.04 ubuntu. I got 2 ethernet built in adapters on my motherboard. Each time i restart the system, i need to switch my network cable to other adapter for the internet to work. ANy solution?15:59
ActionParsnipqum: if you tell the interface to request DHCP, do you get a connection?16:00
kermytI have an AMD APU (CPU/GPU on the same chip) the installer chokes on the hardware using the radeon drivers by default. Is there a way to force the installer to use a more generic vesa mode?16:00
qumnope16:00
qumActionParsnip,nope.16:00
chegneyisn't there a flash enabled browser for linux similar to Puffin?16:00
ActionParsnipkermyt: add the boot option:  radeon.blacklist=116:00
kermytTHank you ActionParsnip !16:01
waykool99need help editing  Grub in  command line please?16:01
compdockermyt, is there an option in the bios to use legacy video?16:01
ActionParsnipchegney: what does pufin do that you like?16:02
ActionParsnipwaykool99: editting to do what?16:02
soberhow can i disable my nvidia graphics card to see if its making my system slow16:02
blzZal, so I should try replacing `bind` in /etc/fstab with `crossmnt` ?16:02
ActionParsnipbobapplepie: still waiting for the command output......16:02
chegneyActionParsnip it has flash built in16:02
kermytcompdoc, yes but I have no other handy hardware to stick into it16:02
ActionParsnipchegney: Chrome has that16:02
waykool99want to change default boot OS and 9 seconds to 100 seconds16:02
ActionParsnipwaykool99: edit /etc/default/grub   and you can change the timeout16:03
chegneyActionParsnip do i need to enable the plugin or something?16:03
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Zalblz, no, crossmnt is an option that goes in /etc/exports, which may or may not help to differentiate between different "bind" mounts that originate from the same filesystem.16:03
ActionParsnipwaykool99: do you want Windows to be top in a dual boot system per chance?16:03
Zalblz, check out "man exports" for details16:03
waykool99always did it  in v10.04 GUI16:03
waykool99no16:03
blzZal, ok will do.  Thanks!16:03
compdockermyt, set the option to legacy and try16:03
ActionParsnipchegney: no idea, just found that stuff online16:03
soberhow can i disable my nvidia graphics card to see if its making  my system slow16:03
kermytcompdoc, ok will do!16:03
chegneyActionParsnip when I look at chrome://plugins there's no flash player16:04
ActionParsnipwaykool99: edit the timeout and run:  sudo update-grub    to apply16:04
waykool99have U Studio v12.04 LTS and U Studio v10.04 LTS. want 10.04 Default16:04
ActionParsnipchegney: it comes with papper flash by default16:04
jjoshtest16:04
ActionParsnip!test | jjosh16:04
ubottujjosh: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )16:04
waykool99yes ubottu TEST back atcha16:05
jjoshthanks16:05
waykool99Windows? whats that16:05
blzZal, ok will do.  Thanks!16:06
chegneyah... flashplugin-installer16:07
waykool99thank you Action16:07
Zalblz np16:07
Zaloh, first-name basis with Mr. Parsnip16:07
blzZal, okay so I added crossmnt to each line in /etc/exports and did `sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart`, but when I mount the nfs file system, I'm getting the same behavior as before16:08
blzZal, any other suggestions?16:08
Zalblz, nothing I can think of offhand. What you're trying to do may not be possible. Have you considered mounting once on the NFS client, and symlinking the appropriate subdirectories to the desired locations?16:09
blzZal, hmm that might be a good solution, actually16:10
chegneyOMG the sound is horrible on my dell netbook16:10
chegneyskipping and the sound isn't feeding through the headphone jack16:11
Zalchegney, strange, netbooks are known for having such awesome audio16:11
Zalchegney, ha, well that sounds like a real problem. Wrong driver maybe?16:12
karthikhi every one i have a problem how to play .ts media files can anyone help me please....16:14
ActionParsnipkarthik: what is a ts file?16:14
chegneyZal yeah, I think a driver issue, not sure how to correct yet16:14
ActionParsnipchegney: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue16:14
slammhow can i disable my nvidia graphics card ?16:15
karthik<ActionParsnip> ts means Transport Stream MPEG-2 Video Stream16:15
chegneyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6236580/16:16
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Zalslamm, BIOS option?16:16
ActionParsnipchegney: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 secons and reboot16:17
ActionParsnipkarthik: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3645/how-do-i-convert-ts-files-into-something-useful16:17
IrreliumI am having trouble installing the proprietary AMD display drivers (fglrx) for my 7950, and I was wondering if anyone could help16:17
IrreliumWhenever I install them, on boot I get a "The system is running in low-graphics mode"16:17
IrreliumReinstalling the open source drivers fixes it and I can boot fine16:18
karthikthank you ActionParsnip16:18
IrreliumI have tried both fglrx and fglrx-updates16:18
MonkeyDustkarthik  it says here, smplayer can play .ts files16:18
erle-how do I switch DE in a regular ubuntu install?16:19
erle-which means: lightdm16:19
karthikthank you MonkeyDust16:19
MonkeyDusterle-  logout, click on ubuntu logo and switch, login16:19
erle-MonkeyDust, thanks16:19
ActionParsniperle-: log off, set the DE at login16:20
ActionParsniperle-: then login16:20
ActionParsniperle-: lightdm is not a DE16:21
erle-ActionParsnip, MonkeyDust: cant find any button in login screen16:21
erle-ActionParsnip, i know, but lightdm is the login screen16:21
ActionParsniperle-: its the ubuntu icon near your username16:21
erle-ActionParsnip, seems to miss with 13.1016:21
trismerle-: it will not show up if you only have one desktop environment installed16:22
ActionParsniperle-: Saucy is not supported here16:22
erle-ActionParsnip, i know, didnt guess that that would change16:22
kopAP!16:23
erle-how do i select non-3d unity then, trism?16:23
trismerle-: there isn't one anymore16:23
erle-ok16:23
trismerle-: if you install gnome-panel you can get the gnome flashback session which might work16:24
trismerle-: or lubuntu/xubuntu16:24
erle-trism, thanks, that is what i need16:24
ActionParsniperle-: saucy support is in #ubuntu+1 til release day16:24
IrreliumAre the Catalyst drivers downloaded from AMD's website the same as the ones you get with the fglrx package?16:25
yeiki am having a problem with updates - http://pastebin.com/X7KW8v7w anybody very good with dpkg and apt-get?16:25
tgm4883Irrelium, I believe so (provided you build the package with the installer from the AMD site), although you'll probably get newer versions from AMD16:25
ActionParsnipIrrelium: sparty has a guide on his yourtube page16:25
erle-ActionParsnip, i know, i just did not think that this was a saucy-specialised question16:25
wbat /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER wbat fznriyilptas16:26
slammhow can i disable my nvidia graphics card ? newbie here16:26
erle-Irrelium, yes, but versions may matter16:26
ActionParsniperle-: its still support for Saucy you are after, as that is the release you are using16:26
MonkeyDustwbat  change your password!16:26
ActionParsnipwbat: new pass needed now :)16:26
erle-ActionParsnip, i am using both right now, saucy in a vm on raring host16:26
erle-:)16:26
chegneyActionParsnip, that didn't fix the skipping16:26
IrreliumI am having trouble getting fglrx or fglrx-updates to work, is it worth trying the drivers from AMDs website, or should I try something else?16:26
chegneymy netbook has that poulsbo audio crap16:26
ActionParsniperle-: if the issue is in saucy, it is in #ubuntu+116:26
erle-ActionParsnip, the virtualboxquestion was actually a raring-question16:26
IrreliumI am on 13.04 with a 795016:27
Piciwbat, ActionParsnip, MonkeyDust: the verify command doesn't actually contain a password.16:27
chegneyi think there is a better driver for poulsbo16:27
slammzal, is there any other way to disable it ..because i am having dual boot and i only want to disable it for ubuntu16:29
slammis there any other way to disable it ..because i am having  dual boot and i only want to disable it for ubuntu16:31
slammother than bios16:31
blzI just mounted an nfs share with `mount 192.168.1.12:/export /media/nfs/`.  How can I translate this into a fstab line?16:32
ActionParsnipblz: you can put the command in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, fstab is processed before the network comes up16:33
blzActionParsnip, cool, thanks!16:34
blzActionParsnip, does rc.local run with root priviledges?16:34
GZA-Geniusblz: "/source/path/here /destination/path/here none bind 0 0"16:35
bekksblz: Yes, it does.16:35
ActionParsnipblz: yes16:35
dixoncxHi, what is the recommended size for ubuntu installation, considering /home in separate partition ?16:35
ActionParsnipdixoncx: i use 10Gb, depends on what the system is for16:35
mluser-laptopHello, I was wondering if anyone here can recomend a good tv tuner that works with US digital airways and US cable.  I'll be using this on a laptop so it will most likely have to be a USB device.16:36
eflynnhow do i switch to something other than unity16:36
yeikActionParsnip, Are you sure? I have mounted several nfs drives using fstab.16:36
GZA-Geniusmluser-laptop: have you checked if you can get a CABLECARD from your provider?16:36
ActionParsnipeflynn: install something else, then log off and log in to the new session16:36
ActionParsnipyeik: as far as I know16:36
eflynni mean16:37
eflynnhow do i get gnome16:37
eflynnunity sucks16:37
ActionParsnipeflynn: you have it now16:37
mluser-laptopGZA-Genius: No, I have not.  It also has to be compatible with linux/ubuntu, which is why I wanted to ask here first16:37
ActionParsnipeflynn: Unity is a shell for Gnome, you are running gnome now. Unity does not replace gnome16:37
eflynnhow do i get rid of unity16:37
GZA-Geniusmluser-laptop: well cablecard is first issue16:37
MonkeyDusteflynn  install other DE, logout, switch, login16:37
mjaykeflynn: install another D.E.16:37
blzGZA-Genius, How would I go about designating a network address as my source path?  Something like 192.168.1.12:/remote/path ?16:38
ActionParsnipeflynn: install gnome-shell, or gnome-panel  and you will get a different session. Or switch from gnome to XFCE or LXDE16:38
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mluser-laptopGZA-Genius: I'm currently using an old hauppauge from over 10 years ago without any prolblems, but its ATSC.  And since I'm replacing my desktop with a laptop I need to find something that will work over usb16:39
GZA-Geniusmluser-laptop: then worry about sw comparability16:39
GZA-Geniusblz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo16:39
dixoncxActionParsnip, thanks for reply. previously i was using 30gb without separate home partition. But now i installed with 15gb for / and 25 gb for /home. I was thinking whether i need to increase / partition size.. .16:39
ActionParsnipeflynn: you can even switch from compiz to metacity and unity will go but you will need to add a startup item to run gnome-panel16:39
mluser-laptopGZA-Genius: Do you know of a compatibility list for ubuntu with tv tuner adapters?16:39
ActionParsnipdixoncx: sounds fine, again, depends on use16:40
yeikblz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo16:40
hexacodelisp16:40
hexacodeoops16:40
blzyeik, i've been reading through that, but It's not really behaving as expected, hence my previous questions16:40
dixoncxActionParsnip, ok, i will proceed with current system.16:41
yeikblz, how about this then, for fstab mounts: <server>:</remote/export></local/directory><nfs-type><options> 0 016:41
blzyeik, thanks i'll give that a shot =)16:42
hexacodehey you guys. i have this old netbook running ubuntu. thing is, the screen broke...i dont have any extra monitors lying around, so i was wondering if anyone knew the old fashion console way of using linux? like, can i take a serial wire and minicom on another linux to that netbook?16:42
hexacodeim just trying to get in so i can use it. i want it to be a micro server16:42
bekkshexacode: ssh is more easy.16:44
MonkeyDustif you have installed ssh16:45
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crash1hdis there any reason why locate wouldnt work I am doing the following locate -i %name% | grep ~/Videos/  where name is the file I am searching for and I know there is lost by the name but it comes back no results even afer doing a sudo updatedb thoughts?16:48
Chudyktoś z Polski?16:48
MonkeyDust!pl16:48
ubottuNa tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.16:48
Chudypl16:49
jribcrash1hd: if your home is encrypted I think it won't be indexed by locate by default16:49
crash1hdright its not encrypted16:50
crash1hdat least I dont think its encrypted16:50
CHA0Whats your fav. App in ubuntu, everybody?16:50
jribcrash1hd: check your settings for locate16:50
OerHeks!poll | CHA016:50
ubottuCHA0: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.16:50
crash1hdjrib, how do I do that?16:50
jribcrash1hd: /etc/updatedb.conf16:51
CHA0Thanks, ubotto16:51
ChudyHello everyone!16:51
jribcrash1hd: are you sure a file with percent signs like that exists by the way?16:52
crash1hdjrib, PRUNEPATHS="/tmp /var/spool /media /home/.ecryptfs"16:52
crash1hdit should I was searching for specific shows and I know I have them16:53
crash1hdby name16:53
crash1hdlocate works without the grep16:53
jribcrash1hd: give an example of a file you expect to get returned16:53
jribcrash1hd: ok16:53
crash1hdjrib, like if I do locate -i %brown% it brings up a tonne of files16:54
crash1hdbut once I add | grep ~/Videos/16:54
crash1hdit brings up nothing16:54
karthikhow to play .ts files in pc16:54
jribcrash1hd: doesn't that just mean none of the files are in ~/Videos?  Can you verify that's not the case?16:54
crash1hdgoing to check (I should though)16:55
jribcrash1hd: you also still haven't verified your home isn't encrypted16:56
crash1hdjrib, oh the ~/Videos is a symlink16:56
crash1hdthat might be why16:56
jribcrash1hd: probably16:56
Kartagisnetwork-manager says no active connections found when I click 'connection information', and network connections from system tools > preferences lists my connections. what's going on?  (not to mention that I'm also online)16:58
crash1hdjrib, yep and I had to remove the %16:58
crash1hdthanks :)16:58
linuxearthHow the famous android phone application 'whatsapp' can be used in the linux in the easiest way??16:59
paulens12hello16:59
linuxearthHow the famous android phone application 'whatsapp' can be used in the linux in the easiest way??16:59
jjosheclipse kepler menu is not showing up in 3.1016:59
jjoshare they working on it?16:59
paulens12i'm trying to automate git commit/push16:59
jribpaulens12: why...?17:00
paulens12the problem is that it asks for password everytime17:00
OerHekslinuxearth, not. if you find a way, let us know.17:00
linuxearthlol17:00
paulens12jrib: i want to commit and push with a single click17:00
paulens12jrib: i'm making a lot of changes17:00
paulens12jrib: and writing a long command is just too much...17:00
jribpaulens12: so commit your lots of changes and then push them?17:00
jjoshyou can do that with smartgit17:01
paulens12you don't get my point17:01
paulens12i don't want to use commands17:01
jribpaulens12: there are a few gui frontends for git17:01
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paulens12jrib: and they all don't work as they're supposed to work...17:01
jribpaulens12: how so?17:01
paulens12for example, one asks for password all the time17:01
paulens12another keeps disconnecting17:02
paulens12i want it to remember my password17:02
jribpaulens12: that's likely because you need a password to push?  Are you pushing to a remote server?  How do you login?17:02
paulens12and why those silly questions?17:02
paulens12JRIB17:02
paulens12LISTEN TO ME17:02
paulens12I'M ANNOYED TO ENTER THE PASSWORD17:02
paulens12GET IT NOW?17:02
FloodBot1paulens12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:02
paulens12gosh..17:02
jribpaulens12: i'm trying to understand what it is you actually want to do.  Please stop with the caps.17:02
Myrttipaulens12: ssh keys to the rescue, then.17:03
CHA0Fuck17:03
MyrttiCHA0: the language17:03
paulens12jrib: what's so unclear? i want to commit and push with a single click, without entering password17:03
jribpaulens12: that's likely because you need a password to push?  Are you pushing to a remote server?  How do you login?17:03
chegneyfixed my audio skipping with this --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/113256217:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 1132562 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Acer AO751h] choppy sounds, lots of rewinds" [Undecided,Triaged]17:03
paulens12jrib: dude, i know.17:03
CHA0Fuknor17:04
paulens12jrib: i want the password to be stored in the sh file17:04
jribpaulens12: can you answer my questions?17:04
paulens12jrib: and yes, it's remote.17:04
CHA0No17:04
paulens12jrib: what questions?17:04
paulens12jrib: what more questions you have?17:04
CHA0Malla malli17:04
jribpaulens12: "how do you login?"  Using ssh?17:04
MyrttiCHA0: did you actually have anything worthwhile to give to the discussion?17:04
hexacodehey you guys. i have this old netbook running ubuntu. thing is, the screen broke...i dont have any extra monitors lying around, so i was wondering if anyone knew the old fashion console way of using linux? like, can i take a serial wire and minicom on another linux to that netbooks' serial port?17:04
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paulens12jrib: no, http17:04
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jribpaulens12: eh?17:04
paulens12jrib: can't get ssh working17:04
chegneyI have a dell inspiron netbook though, so it is clearly an wider issue than that bug17:04
paulens12jrib: i log in using http17:04
paulens12like git pull (url)17:05
CHA0Use putty client17:05
paulens12then it asks for my username and password17:05
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jribpaulens12: probably the easiest thing for you to do is to push over ssh and setup ssh keys as was suggested by someone else17:06
paulens12ok, i made a ssh key, now where do i put it? please? xD17:06
CHA0Dont listen to dickens17:06
jribpaulens12: how did you make it?17:06
CHA0He doesnt know anything17:06
paulens12jrib: ok thx.. that's so bad... sourcetree (win/mac) remembers the password and that ends all the efforts..17:06
tasslehoffFixed a broken ssh on my server. I added "UseDNS no" to my sshd_config and could no longer log in. Now I17:06
paulens12jrib: used the instructions on the git site17:07
CHA0Fucknor17:07
tasslehoff'm trying to find out from the logs what I broke, but I see nothing17:07
bazhangCHA0, stop that17:07
jribpaulens12: I don't know what that means17:07
CHA0M a gay17:07
paulens12jrib: wait a sec17:07
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wilee-nileechegney, Your conclusions are at best assumptions, and this is not a flag waving channel it is legit support.17:07
chegneyhexacode: go to your local goodwill store and find a monitor for like 5-10 bucks17:07
paulens12ssh-keygen -t rsa -C "email"17:08
paulens12then cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub17:08
chegneywilee-nilee: I ran that command in the bug and rebooted and it worked, so it is some kernel issue with intel audio17:08
paulens12jrib: see it?17:09
jribpaulens12: please use pastebin or use a single line.  Did you do anything else?17:09
chegneynot just that particular machine17:09
paulens12jrib: uploaded the key to the site17:09
paulens12jrib: used "Add an SSH Key"17:09
andryi am kind of bored, any suggestions for a great icon theme? :P17:09
jribpaulens12: so can you login now over ssh and not get prompted for a password?17:09
paulens12jrib: i have no idea where to put that key on the client side...17:09
droddieAre you guys talking about hacking?17:10
paulens12jrib: i don't know how to log in with that17:10
jribpaulens12: it's already in the right spot17:10
droddieOr servering?17:10
paulens12jrib: i said in the client side? xD17:10
jribpaulens12: just login how you normally would.17:10
jribpaulens12: I know17:10
wilee-nileedroddie, No.17:10
paulens12jrib: using the ssh url?17:10
jribpaulens12: is this github or somethnig?17:10
droddie:P17:10
droddiemkay17:10
paulens12like username@serveraddr17:10
paulens12jrib: no, it's gitlab17:10
jribpaulens12: sure, ssh user@host17:10
paulens12jrib: so i run ssh command? sorry, i never used ssh before :/17:11
jribpaulens12: yes17:11
jribpaulens12: how did you login before with a password?17:11
paulens12jrib: just did git pull url17:11
jribpaulens12: ok17:11
paulens12jrib: then it asked me for the username and password17:12
crash1hdif you run a mv command say mv /foo /bar and its running without stopping it and I forgot to do -v is there a way to see its status?17:12
jribcrash1hd: you could just ls /foo and see how much is left17:12
paulens12jrib: should i include the git address in the host?17:12
paulens12jrib: like git.somesite.com or like git.somesite.com:someproject.git?17:13
jribpaulens12: no; also you may not be allowed to actually get a shell on the host.  I don't know about your server.  You should just specify "git.somesite.com"17:13
crash1hdjrib, smart right thanks :)17:13
f3rsportasBest music in the world, http://plug.dj/try-the-best/ welcome to our DJ website. :)17:14
paulens12jrib: so it asks for password, now i use the regular password"17:14
paulens12?17:14
f3rsportasBest music in the world, http://plug.dj/try-the-best/ welcome to our DJ website. :)17:14
jribpaulens12: it shouldn't ask for a password if you didn't put a password on your ssh key17:14
paulens12jrib: i didn't xD17:14
paulens12jrib: i put my email17:14
jribpaulens12: as a comment, right?17:15
paulens12jrib: no, i think i generated it from my email17:15
jribpaulens12: um, ok17:15
paulens12jrib: it's like ssh-rsa (a lot of letters)== (my email)17:15
jribpaulens12: yeah that's just a comment so you can keep track of lots of keys17:16
paulens12jrib: oh17:16
jribpaulens12: anyway, if you used the web interface to add your key, try a git pull17:16
paulens12jrib: but i generated the key with ssh-keygen -t rsa -C (email)17:16
jribpaulens12: (over ssh)17:16
jribpaulens12: yes, -C just specificies a comment17:16
paulens12jrib: ok, i see... but now to try pull, i just do git pull user@host dir?17:17
jribpaulens12: uh, try a fresh clone instead; it will be easier17:18
jribpaulens12: git clone ssh://...17:18
paulens12jrib: no user@host?17:18
nbastinso, 13.04 changed such that if downloading Packages fails, it doesn't try Packages.gz?17:18
jribpaulens12: git clone ssh://user@host17:19
paulens12jrib: nope, permission denied :/17:20
nbastinif only someone would document these changes17:20
jribpaulens12: verify you have your private key at ~/.ssh/id_rsa17:20
paulens12jrib: ok, maybe i'll just contact my project manager later, because i have to go now :/17:21
paulens12bye17:21
jribpaulens12: ok17:21
Achilles`Hi all, anyone got ideas about PIN - Instrumentation? I've placed all the header files in /usr/local/include/ … but I still get errors with the PIN Data types UINT64, VOID, and all the pin calls….. Any ideas?17:23
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eerWhy does my /etc/resolv.conf has the entry nameserver 127.0.0.1 and not the IP of the gateway? But still I get to webpages.17:27
eerIs this correct?17:28
OEPis there a guide for installing the official nvidia driver without borking it? I can't really find an updated guide for 13.04.17:28
danleeeer: i think your ubuntu is using dnsmasq, right?17:28
DeepBluehi,the system sounds is not working17:29
eereer, I have no idea17:29
DeepBluei'm not getting any sound alerts17:29
kellyhello guys17:30
danleeeer: you can run "ps -ef | grep dnsmasq"17:30
kellyi need help17:30
rootptMy wireless doesn't work in my laptop toshiba c855, can some one help me please17:31
kellyi have a Notebook which I sometimes connect it to a Monitor "hp w2207h". There is nothing in the external monitor what i mean there is no panel,unity launcher .. etc as you can see in the picture, this is the first time i connect my notebook to an external monitor, The question is : How to move panel,unity launcher to the external monitor , i hope you guys understand me.17:31
wilee-nileerootpt, identify the wireless hardware, lspci if internal lsusb if external17:32
eerdanlee, Yes, looks like it.17:32
kellyany idea guys17:33
DeepBlue hi,the system sounds is not working ,i'm not getting any sound alerts17:33
eerMy Ubuntu is kind of slow loading finding web pages. Why could that be? I have a 150Mbit connection. Loading the page is fast but I have to wait like 1-2 seconds ofter until the loading starts.17:33
wilee-nileekelly, what picture17:33
danleeeer: so your ubuntu is using dnsmasq to resolve the dns. That's why /etc/resolv.conf has entry 127.0.0.117:33
rootpt08:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)17:34
rootpt09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)17:34
eerdanlee, yes17:34
kellywilee-nilee, i don't have it now17:34
kellywilee-nilee, do you understand my problem17:35
danleeeer: you may try to add more dns server into /etc/dnsmasq.conf17:35
danleelike 8.8.8.817:35
danleewhich is a dns server from Google17:35
danleeor add the closest dns server from your ISP17:35
wilee-nileerootpt, RTL's are notoriously a problem when they are, here is a link, that's about the best I can do. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160410117:37
eerdanlee, how could that possibly speed it up?17:37
eerdanlee, that would only help is a DNS server is down17:37
wilee-nileekelly, open display and see your options there.17:38
rootpti will see that, thanks wilee-nilee17:38
OerHekseer 1-2 second wait before loading is not unusual17:38
rootptwish command to see my kernel version?17:39
wilee-nileerootpt, I think its worth sharing the google search I used. https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&q=RTL8188CE+ubuntu17:39
danleeeer: your dns resolving slowness might be due to using dns server which is far away from you17:39
rootptwilee-nilee thanks again nam :-\17:39
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rootpthow can I see my current kernel version17:40
eerdanlee, I don't have an dnsmasq.conf17:40
OEProotpt: uname -vr17:41
rootptthanks OEP17:41
eerdanlee, only an /etc/dnsmasq.d/ dir17:41
wilee-nileerootpt,  uname -a the google search does not resolve correctly in FF here it is again, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=RTL8188CE+ubuntu&gbv=1&sei=ryxcUtfnGMXiiAKE-IHIBA17:41
rohithii17:42
qumI am trying to install skype in ubuntu 12.04 from ubuntu-tweak. I got some error:"The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." Any help?17:43
danleeeer: you can change your dns server in Network Manager17:43
eerdanlee, what is the file?17:44
bekksqum: Thats a notice, not an error. You have to decide yourself wether you want to install packages from not authenticated sources.17:44
danleeThere is a icon on the top right corner17:44
qumbekks, nope mate. can only close the window. I don't have any options.17:44
OerHeksqum maybe you need to enable ubuntu partner repository17:45
qumOerHeks, maybe) How?17:45
OerHeksqum softwarecenter > edit > sources17:46
bazhang!partner | qum17:46
ubottuqum: Canonical's partner repositories provide a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »17:46
au_hi, sound doesn't work, 12.04, what can I do? :) :O17:46
bazhang!audio | au_17:47
ubottuau_: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.17:47
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au_bazhang: thanks17:48
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oalAny ideas why Dovecot won't start after installing dovecot-postfix? Any error files I can check?17:50
oalPostfix starts as expected17:50
au_hi, playing aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav works but I can't hear any sound from youtube or other other applications :(17:52
au_sound -> applications there's only alsa-plugin and it's on17:53
OEPas best I can tell, I should install nvidia-304 or nvidia-319 to get my graphics card working optimally, yet both these packages hang the system upon boot17:53
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MonkeyDustSkinArt1973  stop that "joining channel" script, please17:54
edge731hello, friends, can somebody help me debugging something with mi graphics card?17:55
edge731im not very experienced on this17:56
au_anyone to help me with sound?17:56
wilee-nileeOEP, I'm not real up on graphic drivers, however those that get help give more details, for example if you have dual graphic cards, hardware essentially.17:56
SonikkuAmericaedge731: What's your card.17:57
DeepBlue hi,the system sounds is not working ,i'm not getting any sound alerts17:57
OEPwilee-nilee: nothing too special thought it's a single GTX 660 I believe17:57
gordonjcpDeepBlue: can you get media playback sound?17:57
gordonjcpDeepBlue: like if you play videos?17:57
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OEPwell at the very least nouveau is working, hooray for it17:59
edge731i´ just noticed that there are updates pendign, maybe there is a fix, lets se (it started yesterday)17:59
DeepBluegordonjcp:  yep18:00
rootptwilee-nilee can u see this error when i try to "make install" that download18:00
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wilee-nileerootpt, I'm not your help on this wireless issue directly.18:03
gordonjcpDeepBlue: there is a setting to mute those annoying boings and beeps18:03
gordonjcpDeepBlue: maybe yours is muted, check the sound settings18:03
rootptwilee-nilee sorry ?18:04
wilee-nileerootpt, Read my posts to you I already stated my limitations18:04
rootptok..18:05
rootptcan someone give me a little help on this http://pastebin.com/b9mKGEGT18:05
rootptplease.18:05
wilee-nileerootpt, If I new this stuff I would help, I doubt you want me guessing. ;)18:05
DeepBluegordonjcp: i checkd,allcontrollers r ser 2 over 59,none is muted18:06
DeepBluegordonjcp: i checkd,all controllers r set 2 over 59,none is muted18:07
rootptwilee-nilee u'right mate, sorry and thanks for all18:07
ienichello18:07
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drmagoorootpt, 2 questions, do you have the package "build-essential" installed and did you do a "make" before the "make install" ?18:11
Pici7018:12
Butch128I've got a server email spam issue - disabled sendmail, however, something keep filling up /var/spool/mqueue-client - any way to find out what it submitting the mail jobs?18:13
DJ_Unibobquick question.  Does 13.04 support P/S2 keyboards if the motherboard has a P/S2 kb and M port?18:13
cgtdkDJ_Unibob: works fine for me18:13
PiciDJ_Unibob: I don't see any reason why it shouldn't.18:13
buuButch128: Is it something running locally?18:13
DJ_Unibobhmmm, alright.  It's only temporary while I do some heavy cleaning of my USB keyboard.18:13
Butch128buu: there is a production site running apache.  I cannot disable it, unfortunately (production site)18:14
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buuButch128: Sorry I don't actually know much about mqueue-client, I was just wondering if you could use lsof or something to see what is actually opening that file18:14
Butch128this is my running process list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18:14
Butch128buu: mqueue-client is just where emails are queued up for mailing18:15
MariusITtest18:15
* MariusIT test18:15
Johnny_Linuxing18:15
* MariusIT salute thumbs with respect.18:16
qumsdfsd18:18
rosshsrrunning 13.04 dual boot with windows 8, everytime i boot ubuntu from GRUB it turns the brightness down to zero on my lenovo ideapad, anyone know a quick fix?18:18
rootptdrmagoo i have the build-essential installed and yes, i did sudo su then make and give erros and then make install to test and give me those errors too18:19
edge731well, i updated and it didnt fix the problem18:20
drmagoorootpt, can you pastebin the errors from the 'make'18:20
rootptjust 1 min drmagoo18:20
thumpbahow do i fix this perl: warning for local settings18:20
wilee-nilee!details | edge73118:20
ubottuedge731: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."18:20
edge731i explain my situation: i have a AMD hd 3200 M , and yesterday i shutted down my computer the bad way18:20
thumpbahttp://hastebin.com/wimoqeqere.sm18:20
edge731after that im not able to enter unity, im from xfce now18:21
thumpbaI'm on 13.0418:21
edge731and when i make a glxinfo, it says that there are no devices18:21
wilee-nileeedge731, All in one line.18:21
edge731but in lshw my cards appears18:21
edge731sorry18:21
edge731ubuntu 13.1018:22
wilee-nilee!13.10 | edge73118:22
ubottuedge731: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.18:22
rootptdrmagoo -> http://pastebin.com/ZVR3UCWf18:23
ananthconnect chat.facebook.com18:23
edge731ubuntu 13.10, unity does not work, xfce does, lshw shows card, glxinfo not, i already tried using old kernels from grub, there is a package i should reconfigure, thats related to my card? (i know, i maded a distro ugrade like from 3 months ago)18:23
wilee-nileeedge731, #ubuntu+1 is the 13.10 channel.18:24
rootptdrmagoo wait i've made a mistake 1 min18:24
edge731wilee-nilee: okey, going18:25
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wilee-nileeedge731, cool a little slower there, and good help.18:25
rootptdrmagoo http://pastebin.com/GP21qmah18:26
Pessimistks18:27
PessimistMy CPU usage is around 20-30% and ubuntu is sluggish, slow. Any tips to increase performance? Nvidia blob, ubuntu 12.04.3, all packages updated18:27
yeikPessimist, what cpu do you have?18:28
drmagoorootpt, you know that there is a newer release of compat-wireless ? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/#compat-wireless_stable_releases18:29
PessimistThe window manager feels kinda slow. yeik, http://pastebin.com/e8WGwBGU18:29
rootptis that ok for "toshiba C855 RTL8188CE ubuntu 13.04"18:30
rootpt?18:30
jjosheclipse kepler menu ?? doesnt work with unity ? any fixes ?18:31
drmagoorootpt, hang on, let me download the file and see if I can compile it.18:34
rootptdrmagoo is that ok for "toshiba C855 RTL8188CE ubuntu 13.04" 08:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01)18:35
rootptok thanks18:35
drmagoorootpt, hang on a sec ...18:35
rootptdrmagoo ok, thanks.18:37
PessimistCan it just be that my pc has old cpu socket / old ram (as in the technology aspect) that makes unity run slow?18:39
wilee-nileePessimist, how much ram?18:39
Pessimistwilee-nilee, 2gb18:40
wilee-nileePessimist, kinda low for 64 bit, you might try a lighter desktop.18:40
wilee-nileePessimist, Install htop and see whats eating the cpu.18:40
LuciusFoxHello. Can somebody help me with an "apt-get" issue?18:43
Pessimistwilee-nilee, kernel on my system is 32bit. Cpu usage almost never exceeds 50%. The windows manager just feels slow, animations, moving windows, unity menu are not as smooth as it should be18:43
jribLuciusFox: say the actual issue18:44
Pessimistbrb18:44
LuciusFoxi was installing many packages at once with "apt-get install", but lost internet connectivity when some packages were still to be downloaded. now i cannot install those remaining packages18:46
KalelGreetings.18:46
KalelLuciusFox: Yes, you can.18:46
LuciusFoxInternal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap18:46
KalelLuciusFox: Just run the same 'apt-get install...' be sure you're online.18:47
wilee-nileeLuciusFox, You might have to run sudo apt-get -f install18:47
LuciusFoxyes, i am online. i installed some other programs. but while installing those packages it says "Internal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap18:48
LuciusFox"18:48
KalelLuciusFox: If doesn't works, try apt-get install -f18:48
KalelI want to change the theme icon just inhte systray..18:49
Kalel..in the systrey.18:49
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drmagoorootpt, i think i have a solution for you =)18:51
rootptdrmagoo tell me please18:52
drmagoorootpt, how well do you know 'vi' ?18:52
rootpti prefer nano18:52
rootpt:X18:52
xtrizwhat does iirc means ?18:52
rootptnot very well but i can try18:52
Picixtriz: if I recall correctly.18:52
pheexguys!? can someone help me with a hacking challenge??18:53
Renaanyone knows when Lubuntu 13.10 is to come out?18:53
SonikkuAmerica!13.1018:53
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.18:53
Renacool thanks18:53
SonikkuAmericaRena: ^18:53
Mathisenpheex ?18:54
drmagoorootpt, ok, that will work =) make sure you edit the following files with 'nano -w [file]'. in the main directory there is a file called pci.h on line 247 it says (among other things) __devinit. remove just the __devinit part, leave the rest and then in the rtl8188ee directory you need to edit the file sw.c and search for __devinitdata. remove just that part *__devinitdata' leave the rest of the code there...18:55
rootptok18:55
rootpti will try18:55
drmagoorootpt, these is because of some change in the 3.x kernel that doesnt "handle/like" __devinit... dont ask me why ;)18:55
rootptand tell u something18:56
Picipheex: Its likely not on-topic for this channel.18:56
rootpt=)18:56
rootptbrb18:56
rootpti will do that18:56
drmagoorootpt, good luck18:56
pheexPici: sorry18:56
rootptthanks18:56
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Guest77832ll18:58
DeepBluehi,the system sounds is not working ,i'm not getting any sound alerts18:58
reisioDeepBlue: you getting any audio?18:59
DeepBluereisio: yep nut no beebs18:59
reisiofrom what do you want a beep?19:00
DeepBlue<  reisio: yep but no beeps19:00
qumI played with the ubuntu-tweak and now i don't have any mouse action on desktop, for an example clicking right mouse button would popup a menu. I think restart will solve(maybe) but is there another way?19:00
DeepBluereisio:  4 xchat19:00
jribqum: you probably disabled nautilus from drawing your desktop19:01
qumjrib, how do i enable it back?19:01
reisioDeepBlue: on the 'Sound' item you can specify what application to play a sound with19:01
reisioDeepBlue: might I recommend mplayer19:01
kamsup ubuntu, i set a command that's something like "exec=/opt/to-executable" path, how do I reverse that?19:01
reisiokam: how'd you set it?19:01
jribqum: use ubuntu-tweak?19:02
kamcommand line reisio19:02
reisiokam: with what command19:02
rootptdrmagoo after that, in the rtl8188ee directory i do "make" and seems to do all fine.. but when i try to do make install it says: make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop.19:02
kam"Exec=/opt/eclipse/eclipse"19:02
reisiokam: open a new tab, close old one?19:02
kostkonDeepBlue, "paplay" for external app or "canberra-gtk-play -f"19:02
kamthen I used "sudo ln -s /opt/eclipse/eclipse"19:03
drmagoorootpt, hang on19:03
rootptok19:03
kamreisio: yes, I followed the directions on the wrong blog19:03
reisiokam: sudo ln -s /opt/eclipse/elipse shouldn't do anything19:03
kamrather, I need to set the path to a different file all together.19:03
KalelHow can I set an icon just for systray?19:03
kamI created eclipse.desktop file that went into my applications folder, which is the icon I need to drop in my desktop19:04
kriskropdhow might I use mailx to check an imap inbox for new messages as a binary output?19:04
drmagoorootpt, you do make in the rtl8188ee directory, then go down one step to the main directory and do make install there19:05
bekksdrmagoo: You never ever do make install. You use checkinstall instead.19:05
rootptdrmagoo ok i will try19:05
drmagoobekks, ok =)19:05
drmagoorootpt, do as bekks said. checkinstall19:06
rootptan error drmagoo19:06
bekksrootpt: Which error?19:06
rootptw819:06
kamreisio: is it not possible to do it?19:07
rootpti need to install checkinstall first to do like bekks says19:07
reisiokam: what?19:08
bekksrootpt: Then do so.19:08
DeepBluereisio: good  idea except that i'm enterrupted every time i get alerts19:08
kamto reverse "Exec=/opt/..." because now I have the executable sitting in my Home dir19:09
rootptbut the error is this one, wait.. puting on bash19:09
rootptdrmagoo http://pastebin.com/f4TdjZAr19:09
DeepBluekostken, this was helpful  ,thnx19:10
reisioDeepBlue: hrmm?19:10
bekksrootpt: Dont do make install. You may mess up your system when doing it without checkinstall.19:10
reisiokam: what part of reversing it is confusing you?19:10
DeepBluereisio:  u 219:11
kamreisio: how do I unmake the command "Exec=/opt..." How do I reverse it? do I do "NotExec=/opt.."19:11
rootptbekks ok, im always learning thanks19:11
bjensen82Im trying to make a bootable usb to install ubuntu 12.04 with. Can someone point me to a resource on how to make the bootable usb using a mac?19:11
reisiobjensen82: http://unetbootin.sf.net/19:12
drmagoorootpt, there is a __devinit line in pci.c also that you need to edit. same thing there just remove the __devinit part leave the rest of the line19:12
Picikam: if you're talking about setting the environment variable 'Exec', then just do unset Exec19:12
rootptin wich directory ?19:12
kamPici: Ah! thank you!19:12
rootptthe 1º one ?19:13
reisiousing exec the way he ran it wouldn't persist19:13
reisioI'm not sure it'd even work19:13
drmagoorootpt, yes in the main directory19:14
rootptdrmagoo can u tell me the line number?19:20
yan__hi, could somebody help me finding out why my processor is very busy all the time? it's new since a couple of days. top tells me no large processes, but %sy is constantly between 30 and 60. any way I can find out which process is causing this?19:20
rootptdrmagoo its ok, i find it19:20
drmagoorootpt,  ok =)19:20
bekksyan__: "top"19:20
yan__bekks: I tried top, but as I said: "top tells me no large processes, but %sy is constantly between 30 and 60."19:21
bekksyan__: Then pastebin the output of "ps aux" please.19:22
rootptdrmagoo after that, reboot?19:22
rootptthe checkinstall was sucessfull19:22
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bekksrootpt: Then install the resulting .deb19:22
rootptbekks ? :X wheres that?19:23
bekksrootpt: In the directory where you ran checkinstall...19:23
yan__bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6237384/19:23
rootpti've got no debian packs there19:23
Aniari have a laptop running Kubuntu 13.04 (upgrade from 12.?? . I had a disk problem, so I booted to a kubuntu 13.04 live CD to do the backup/restore to new disk... in the livecd boot, I noticed I had gotten an IPv6 address from AT&T (finally) which I need for some testing...19:24
Aniarwhen I got back into my normal install... no ipv6 addresses have been recieved.19:24
Aniarsysctl.conf has only uncommented entries.  I'm using network manager, and IPv6 is enabled on both connctions (wireless and wired)19:25
bekksyan__: kioslaves from KDE are running wild as it seems.19:25
Aniar(wired is where I noticed it picked up on the livecd)19:25
Aniarnothing in /etc/network/ mentioning ipv6... so what am I missing that needs to be changed to get ipv6 working on this system?19:25
yan__bekks: hm, what are kioslaves?19:25
Aniari have link local addresses, just not the router-assigned ones19:25
yan__bekks: funny, it just stopped, but I don't know why19:26
bekksyan__: Some internal kde stuff :) I used KDE too long ago, I cant remember more specifically.19:26
bekksyan__: then you closed some program?19:26
yan__bekks: hehe, ok. no, right now i didn't close anything. before, i closed everything, but %sy stayed up19:27
yan__bekks: strange19:27
Jordan_UAniar: What makes you think that your router/modem/ISP supports ipv6? Can you pastebin the output of "route -n"? and "ifconfig"?19:27
yan__bekks: how did you notice that kioslaves might be the problem?19:27
Aniarbecause every CentOS and Windows box got an IPV6 address.  Because in the LiveCD, I got an IPv6 address.  Because I asked AT&T to assign me one, which they did, which is where I got the address subnet19:28
drmagoorootpt, no errors from checkinstall ? can you do a ls in the main directory and also include the output from from checkinstall into a pastebin19:28
Aniarfrom the system I'm running irssi on: inet6 addr: 2602:306:31db:19:28
rootptdrmagoo ok19:28
AniarJordan_U: that's not link-local - that's a real assigned address.19:28
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bekksyan__: lines 165-167 in your pastebin19:30
rootptim seeying a error in the final of the checkinstall19:30
yan__bekks: ah ok. it might have to do with akregator.. i'll check. thanks a lot!19:31
rootpti will paste in pastebin19:31
Jordan_UAniar: And the output?19:31
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eerWhat exactly does it mean when the gateway in the routing table is 0.0.0.0 ? That doesn't make sense to me.19:32
eerHow can a gateway be anyting?19:32
AniarJordan_U: They're useless because they have only link-local addresses19:32
magdurguys when will be released ubuntu 13.10?19:32
rootptdrmagoo http://pastebin.com/gfaxuQG619:32
cgtdkmagdur: oct. 17th19:32
eerIs it safe to say that when gateway is 0.0.0.0 that entry is a LAN address then?19:33
bekkseer: Whats the entire output? Pastebin it please.19:33
Jordan_UAniar: If there's no ipv6 default gateway then that's your problem.19:33
bekkseer: And no, thats neither safe, nor true.19:33
magdurshould am i upgrade 13.04 from 13.10 ?19:33
AniarJordan_U: to recap another way: I've always had link-local (FE80::) addresses in my environment.  AT&T gave me an assigned IPv6 subnet last week, configured their end of my router. Today my whole Unix/Windows lab is picking up those auto-configured IPv6 addresses from that network.  Except my laptop, and only when my laptop is in my upgraded 13.04 build.  When I booted it from the liveCD, it got an address.19:34
AniarJordan_U: so, to recap: only 1 system of 18 is broken19:34
AniarJordan_U: the one that's broken is the only system in the lab that was an upgrade rather than a clean build.19:34
eerbekks, http://pastebin.com/T3C32xU719:35
AniarJordan_U: so, *my* analysis (which I admin could be wrong) is that I have something misconfigured on this local machine.  But I don't know what19:35
TheAvatarHello. I am trying to extend a partition that resides on vmware and using lvm. I extended the physical disk (vmware), but now I try to remove and extend the extended partition. Right now it resides from block 501760, but when I delete it, and try to recreate it, it refuses to start until 503806. What am I missing here?19:35
bekkseer: And which line is unclear?19:35
cgtdkmagdur: you should probably wait until it is released, and I'd wait a couple of weeks after it is released19:36
eerbekks, all19:36
drmagoorootpt, you do get an error.19:36
eer0.0.0.0 means any address, right?19:36
bekkseer: then please read "man route".19:36
AniarJordan_U: I took a guess...      8   768 ACCEPT     ipv6-icmp    any    any     anywhere             anywhere             ipv6-icmp router-advertisement19:36
AniarJordan_U: and it worked19:37
eerbekks, where in man route does it explain about the 0.0.0.0 value ?19:37
drmagoorootpt, you need to edit all the sw.c-files in every subdirectory... I think that is the easiest way, instead of messing about with the makefile19:37
eerbekks, can't find the spot19:37
bekkseer: Then read the entire man page please.19:37
eeris Author the end of the man page?19:38
Guest65580hey friends ,  i  cant record sound from spotify with audacity ... dont know what i am doing wrong ...  i can see spotify in pulse controler  but no visuals for playing sound19:38
rootptdrmagoo u're right :-\19:38
rootptim sick of this19:38
rootpt:X19:38
reisioeer: usually19:39
drmagoorootpt, I can fully understand that... this is the boring part with drivers19:39
unkmarHow long is a release supported?19:39
bekksunkmar: Depends on the exact release.19:39
tgm4883unkmar, 9 months starting with 13.04 for non-LTS releases. 5 years for LTS releases19:40
eerAnybody knows the man page where the value 0.0.0.0 in regards to routing is explained?19:40
unkmartgm4883: and LTS's are the x.04 ???19:40
bekkseer: How about reading the entire man page to basically understand routing?19:40
tgm4883unkmar, no, LTS are the x.04 every other year. (eg. 10.04, 12.04, 14.04)19:40
lmatIs there an easy way to search http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/19:41
tgm4883bekks, I've not read the backlog, so feel free to tell me to buzz off, but this is starting to sound a lot like RTFM, which I think is frowned upon19:41
rootptdrmagoo i think i will need to start to think to use another distro :-\19:42
tgm4883lmat, go to google and do "site:irclogs.ubuntu.com WORDS TO SEARCH FOR"19:42
drmagoorootpt, Im afraid that you will have the same issue with any distro. When it comes to the Realtek drivers19:42
eerIf I enter netstat -tuna I get for example 0.0.0.0:80 for local address. Meaning a web server is running. But why 0.0.0.0 and not 127.0.0.1 ?19:43
rootptgeez19:43
TheAvatareer, because 0.0.0.0 means all available interfaces. 127.0.0.1 is only local host19:43
tgm4883eer, in some instances, 0.0.0.0 means listen on any interface. This is not always the case19:43
rootptthis will always be like this?19:43
TheAvatareer, if it said 127.0.0.1, which is very much possible, there is no way anybody externally (lan+internet) can access it19:43
eerTheAvatar, so for testing purposes on a test machine. Now I understand.19:44
TheAvatareer, say, you have 2 network cards, and/or multiple ip addresses on the machine. 0.0.0.0 means it will bind (and hence reply) on both nics and all IP-addresses (more or less)19:44
eerTheAvatar, thx19:44
rootptdrmagoo i used kali-linux before install ubuntu 13.04 and it was nice.. wireless running very well...19:45
TheAvatareer, depending on what you test, you would hardly want e.g. a webserver to bind on 127.0.0.1, but of course, it is possible, and in some scenarios, you might want that19:45
eerSo 0.0.0.0 can be translated into English like: all installed network cards and their IP addresses?19:45
bekkseer: No.19:45
bekkseer: It strongly depends on the context.19:45
TheAvatareer, well, as a newbie question, I guess you could say yes, but the answer is no19:46
drmagoorootpt, Havent tried that distro. =)19:46
TheAvatareer, it is not as straight forward, but I guess in most cases, that translation would be somewhat correct19:46
eerok19:46
tgm4883TheAvatar, I believe the context he is asking about is the routing table19:47
reisioeer: ok19:47
rootpti read somewhere a dude have this error like me, and then he install mint and never get that error again, it is possible?19:47
rootptdrmagoo i read somewhere a dude have this error like me, and then he install mint and never get that error again, it is possible?19:47
lmattgm4883: Thanks.19:47
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reisiorootpt: unfortunately never ever ends, so one can't say19:47
tgm4883lmat, yw19:47
TheAvatartgm4883, okay - I did actually join in the middle of the discussion. People just sounded reluctant to help19:48
TheAvatareer, if we are talking routing wise, it means something else, yes19:48
drmagoorootpt, not sure.. As I understand it it, the problem should be related to the Kernel-version and no the distro... But I'm only running Ubuntu on my boxes so I can test and verify on another distro19:48
tgm4883TheAvatar, i've not been here since the beginning either, but bekks knows what going on19:48
unkmartgm4883: bekks:  that is what I expected to hear and not exactly what I want to hear.  Not my fault previous sys/admin installed 10.10  a non LTS.19:48
eerok, thx19:48
unkmarThank you.19:48
rootptdrmagoo i see :-\19:48
tgm4883unkmar, yea, I've inherited a situation much like that as well19:49
rootpti don't know what to do drmagoo19:49
TheAvatarbasically, it means all other networks that you do not have any routes (or locally) access to. So guess it could translate into anything-not-known. Others correct me if I'm wrong if this is not the basic way of explaining it19:49
rootpti really need my laptop19:49
drmagoorootpt, if you want it to work you need to edit the last sw.c files and then hope for the best..=)19:49
TheAvatartgm4883, aha okay, I just read his replies as "what a noob question, go RTFM" ;)19:49
rootptedit the files and erase that evident word ?19:50
drmagoorootpt, yes... make sure that you get the entire word but leave the rest of that line intact19:50
rootptdrmagoo ok19:51
rootptand19:51
rootptcan i downgrade the version of the kernel? to try to solve this problem ? drmagoo19:51
drmagoorootpt, I think you'll run into other issues then.. easiest is just to do these last few edits19:52
nightmare365higuys i have a problem with ubuntuand my keeeyboard i have to lonnng press keeeeeeys so as to type please help19:52
rootptdrmagoo where is that file?19:53
nightmare365tt1 and thhhhhhhhhe others are working fine19:53
drmagoorootpt, in each rt* subdirectory there is a sw.c file... you need to edit each of them19:53
nightmare365higuys i have a problem with ubuntuand my keeeyboard i have to lonnng press keeeeeeys so as to type please help19:54
nightmare365tt1 and thhhhhhhhhe others are working fine19:54
rootptok drmagoo19:55
drmagoorootpt,  I need to logoff now.. hope that you solve this issue now.. good luck19:55
eegoreok why did medibuntu get shut down19:56
YowlIs there a way to make GParted give a label or change a label of a existing partition?19:57
tgm4883eegore, because nobody is maintaining it and it's not usually necessary anymore19:58
reisioYowl: probably, right click?19:58
eegoreI got a netbood I can't get configured to run streams19:58
Yowlreisio: Seems no19:58
rootptdrmagoo i've done that, and the checkinstall runs beauty, sucessfull19:59
nightmare365higuys i have a problem with ubuntuand my keeeyboard i have to lonnng press keeeeeeys so as to type please help19:59
cgtdk!patience | nightmare36519:59
ubottunightmare365: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/19:59
reisioYowl: e2label, ntfslabel, swaplabel, dosfslabel19:59
rootptbut then , installing debian package.... FAILED!19:59
nightmare365sorry its just ffffffffffrustrating typing like ths20:00
Yowlreisio: Other programs to try?20:00
MangaKaDenzauh oh20:01
MangaKaDenzacan someone help me?20:01
MangaKaDenzaSee20:01
YowlIs there a easy way to transfer my /home onto a partition when it didn't have it's own  partition before?20:01
MangaKaDenzaI want to use airmon-ng , but every time I initiate it, it crashes my desktop20:01
rootptbekks can u see this error http://pastebin.com/ePUamEfV20:04
rootptin the end of file20:04
rootptwhen i try to run dpkg -i file20:04
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C0mm4nd3rhi guys20:06
redkinghi guys so i have managed to create a new user account and the keyboard is working20:07
redkingwhat could make the other user account not work ?20:08
C0mm4nd3ri have a problem with my creative sound blaster (audio)20:08
C0mm4nd3rcan you help me ?20:08
C0mm4nd3rthanks20:08
MangaKaDenzak20:08
YowlHow do I use gparted to make one partition out of two sets of unallocated space on the same drive?20:09
vltYowl: Don’t think that’s possible with classic partitions.20:10
Yowlvlt What do you mean by classic partitions?20:10
vltYowl: But you can get one usable voume (as always) with LVM.20:11
Psil0CybinAN20:11
BluesKajC0mm4nd3r. creative usually uses intel hda audio  , alsmixer should show that20:11
BluesKajalsamixer20:11
Psil0Cybinhey guys im having a problem updating ubuntu 12.04 it keeps saying im missing repos...but some of them look important20:11
vltYowl: A partition is a defined range on a disk.20:11
Psil0Cybincan someone help me take a look @ whats going on20:11
vltYowl: Two separate ranges are at least two partitions.20:11
vltYowl: *volume20:12
Psil0Cybincan someone please help me and tell me what is going on http://pastebin.com/n3PgMqVm why am i having problems updating my repos20:12
Yowlvlt: If its two partitions, how can it also be one useable volume?20:12
vltYowl: With LVM for example.20:12
Yowlvlt: Please expand on your example20:12
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vltYowl: LVM takes any number of "input" devices and you can create any number of "output" devices. Including resizing on the fly ...20:13
Riptidehewwo20:14
Yowlvlt You mean merging two partitions so they seem like one, even though they really are two?20:14
vltYowl: LVM is a complete separate layer on top of block devices. You can put anything you like on the blcok devices LVM creates. For example file systems.20:15
RiptideDoes anyone know how to play/run a game called "Super Hot" on Ubuntu 12.04?20:15
Yowlvlt: So is that a yes or a no?20:16
vltYowl: Technically a "no".20:17
vltYowl: Because (to me) it doesn’t seem like one *partition* but like one new block device.20:17
gordonjcpYowl: go and read up on LVM20:17
gordonjcpYowl: if it makes sense, great.  If it doesn't, reformat your disk and recreate it without gaps20:18
rootptcan someone see this error http://pastebin.com/ePUamEfV20:18
RiptideDoes anyone know how to play/run a game called "Super Hot" on Ubuntu 12.04?20:19
Yowlvlt: If LVM is used to bridge a gap, does that mean you need LVM to maintain that bridge? Like what happens if you install a new OS?20:19
Riptideanyone?20:20
Riptide...20:20
Riptideanyone?20:22
Riptide...20:22
Yowlvlt are you still there?20:22
bekksrootpt: The firmware is missing as it looks like.20:22
RiptideIs anyone there that can help?20:22
tgm4883!patience | Riptide20:23
ubottuRiptide: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/20:23
RiptideOk20:23
RiptideI shall wait20:23
rootptbekks what i need to do? sorry :-\20:23
* Riptide Waiting... :)20:23
craigbass1976Where are errors going to show up with a mount command?  I don't see anything in /var/log/ that looks likely.  I'm hung up after running mount -a, and it's got to do with some samba shares.20:23
bekksrootpt: You have to provide that file, I guess.20:23
craigbass1976Riptide, I missed your question.  Maybe I can answer it while I'm waiting for mine20:24
rootptprovide to where?20:24
bekksrootpt: Where it is missing. The full path is shown.20:24
Riptideok20:24
RiptideDoes anyone know how to play/run a game called "Super Hot" on Ubuntu 12.04?20:25
vltYowl: Please read on LVM. It creates a layer in the kernel, reads input or source devices (like partitions) and provides output devices.20:25
vltYowl: If you change the OS the new one has to read the physical/source volumes’s header data to provide the created devices.20:26
BluesKajRiptide. google is your friend , http://linuxgamecast.com/lgcbbs/index.php?p=/discussion/513/super-hot-has-a-linux-version/p120:26
RiptideI went there20:26
RiptideI dont think it say how to run the file20:27
Yowlvlt: Would that work with LUKS?20:27
vltYowl: Yes.20:27
rootptbekks i have a folder named firmware and another called rtlwifi within20:28
vltYowl: I usually use file systems on lvm on luks on mdraid.20:28
rootptand in the rtlwifi there was an file called rtl8192cfwU_B.bin20:28
rootptwhat can i do with bins ?20:28
rootptwhen i do dmesg | grep -e wlan -e rtl20:29
rootptit says that that bin is not avaliable20:29
vltYowl: Sometimes I insert a DRBD layer.20:29
rootptbekks did u understand what i'm saying? :-\20:30
Nothing_MuchI'm having problems trying to get the unity panel to work :(20:31
Nothing_Much(The panel that's at the top right corner)20:32
Nothing_Muchnothing shows up, need some help here!\20:32
Nothing_Much.. anybody?20:33
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Psil0Cybinhey guys can someone help me figure out why alot of my repos are failing it keeps saying to check my internet connection but my internet connection is fine im talking to you guys right now and downloading something20:35
Psil0Cybinhttp://pastebin.com/n3PgMqVm20:35
Psil0Cybinmaybe they are down in general?20:35
Psil0Cybinalthough some of them look important20:35
k1lPsil0Cybin: that are PPAs. please make sure that PPAs still exist and are still maintained.20:36
tgm4883Psil0Cybin, it looks like the only ones that are down are the private-ppa ones20:36
Psil0Cybinoh okay nothing that is necessary for ubuntu security updates? I was a little confused20:36
Psil0Cybinif they are indeed not maintained, how can I remove them?20:36
Psil0Cybinhow do I remove the steam ppa?20:37
Psil0Cybinfor example20:37
bekks!ppa-purge | Psil0Cybin20:37
ubottuPsil0Cybin: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html20:37
Psil0Cybinso how would I find the ppa for steam for example20:38
craigbass1976Psil0Cybin, Are you on Fairpoint?  They're notorious in my neighborhood (Southern Maine) for dropping out just enough to bork an update.20:38
Psil0Cybinnope Teksavvy from Toronto Canada20:38
Psil0Cybinim on DSL so i never drop out20:38
CoreyHahaha Fairpoint. I remember those days :-)20:38
CoreyPsil0Cybin: Fairpoint is a DSL company. :-)20:38
Psil0Cybinoh aha20:39
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Psil0Cybinhow would i remove the PPA's or figure out the repos for them?20:39
Psil0Cybinsorry i am semi new to linux20:39
craigbass1976Psil0Cybin, Fairpoint was also DSL.  There's a lady at the end of my street, and I pick her laptop up every now and again to run updates at my house.  I moved to another ISP20:39
Psil0Cybinso i would do sudo ppa-purge ppa:steam ?20:39
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Psil0Cybinit says sudo ppa-purge not found20:40
Psil0Cybincommand not found20:40
kostkonPsil0Cybin, you want to reomve the steam ppa?20:40
Psil0Cybinyes please20:40
kostkonrepo* to be precise20:40
Psil0Cybinoh20:40
Psil0Cybininstall ppa-purge20:40
Psil0Cybinone second20:40
kostkonPsil0Cybin, it's not a ppa, it won't work20:40
Psil0Cybinso how do i remove it?20:40
Psil0Cybinbecasue it keeps saying that i cannot update20:40
Psil0Cybinthat that i need to check my network connection20:40
Psil0Cybinwhen its fine20:41
Lucius_FoxGuys, while installing many packages at once, my internet was disconnected. Some packages were not downloaded. But, now when I try to install THOSE packages, apt gets stuck at "Waiting for headers", ALTHOUGH I can install any other package.20:41
Lucius_Foxsudo apt-get install nmap20:41
Lucius_Fox[sudo] password for abhay:20:41
Lucius_FoxReading package lists... Done20:41
Lucius_FoxBuilding dependency tree20:41
FloodBot1Lucius_Fox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:41
Lucius_FoxReading state information... Done20:41
kostkonPsil0Cybin, try in software sources, in usc select edit -> software sources20:41
kostkonPsil0Cybin, usc -> ubuntu software centre20:41
qumWho can recommend me some radio clients for ubuntu pls?20:42
Renafloodbot flood :V20:42
kostkonLucius_Fox, i guess it could have an easy solution:  give:  sudo apt-get clean    and then try again20:43
kpuljekI get a kernel panic, not syncing: no init found after a clean 12.04.3 install, what to do?20:43
Lucius_FoxThank you so much!20:44
kostkonLucius_Fox, ;)20:44
qum:DD20:44
Psil0Cybinkostkon: so i would do sudo ppa-purge ppa:20:45
Psil0Cybinoh woops20:45
Psil0Cybinkostkon: http://pastebin.com/n3PgMqVm20:45
Psil0Cybinhow can i fix those index files that failed to download20:45
Psil0Cybin:S20:45
Psil0Cybinwhere do i see software sources20:45
Psil0Cybin?20:45
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:45
kostkonPsil0Cybin, in software sources, remove the steam repo entry and then just uninstall steam if that's what you want to do. i'm saying this because ppa-purge removes the ppa from the software sources and also removes any installed pacakges coming from that repo.20:47
Psil0Cybinlike why do i get this Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en_CA  why does it ignore that?20:47
Psil0Cybinwhen i run sudo apt-get update20:47
Psil0Cybinlike i want to remove W: Failed to fetch https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/motorbike/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages20:47
Psil0Cybin?20:47
* Johnny_Linux slaps FloodBot1 for flooding20:47
kostkonPsil0Cybin, but in this case you can't use ppa-purge to remove the steam repo from your software sources20:47
Psil0Cybinso where is the software sources?20:48
rootptbekks its all ok know, i've wireless connection20:48
kostkonPsil0Cybin, don't worry but about the ign lines, and keep your private ppas, don't remove them20:48
kostkonPsil0Cybin, open the software centre, then select edit -> software sources from the menu. that's the easy way20:48
rootptThanks for all20:48
Psil0Cybinpackage manger?20:48
Psil0Cybinso dont doything20:49
Psil0Cybinim so confused20:49
Psil0Cybinleave the errors? it keeps saying i have a problem every 35 minutes tho20:49
Psil0Cybinthank you kostkon :D20:49
Psil0Cybinnow i understand kk20:49
kostkonPsil0Cybin, it fails to contact the server for some reason. it should be temporary20:49
kostkonPsil0Cybin, ok20:49
awktionlol20:50
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Psil0Cybinokay so if its temp i should leave it as is, atm?20:51
Psil0Cybinhow can i check, sorry im still fairly new to linux even tho iv been using it for a ittle less than a year20:51
Psil0Cybini have alot to learn :P20:51
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kpuljekany ideas on how to fix "no init found" error on boot?21:01
mramm2https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At5cjYKYHu9odGpCR0h5YzBrV2JtY3p4b2FVQU5PRmc&usp=drive_web#gid=021:04
mramm2oops21:04
mramm2wrong window21:04
PridethI have a problem. I have reinstalled kubuntu and now my desktopmanager does not work ( i have the x symbol and so on not :( )21:04
jhutchinskpuljek: Your grub configuration is pointing at the wrong device for root.21:05
jhutchins!fixgrub21:05
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub221:05
kpuljekjhutchins:  but how can it, it's a brand new installation :/21:06
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cbilljoneswhats the best way to start a program without desktop interface?21:09
buucbilljones: ... from a terminal?21:13
gordonjcpcbilljones: what exactly are you trying to do?21:14
ycsapoHi, can anybody please point me at the right channel to talk about ubuntu cloud?21:14
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cbilljonesgordonjcp start a x-application on boot without a desktop env. will this work? http://askubuntu.com/questions/310671/start-ubuntu-without-a-desktop-environment-but-start-an-x-application21:15
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faugusztincbilljones: that still runs X, just without window decorations etc21:18
cbilljonesfaugusztin thats what i need21:18
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faugusztincbilljones: i would still suggest you installing ratpoison or similar window manager, to be able to switch between windows, but yeah, you can do that21:19
Dr_Willisor somthing tiny like jwm,21:19
faugusztincbilljones: ratpoison = http://ratpoison.nongnu.org/21:20
cbilljonesfaugustzin i dont want user to be able to switch windows, this is a point of sale software21:20
Dr_Willisrunning with no window manger at all can be a real pain in some cases.  and given how tiny some of these wm's are - you dont save a lot on resources21:20
Dr_Willisive seen Koisk focused disrtos out there allready premadeup.21:20
Dr_Willisyou have to watch out for dialog box's that may popup. or file requestors. or print dialog box's or other things that might happen21:21
faugusztincbilljones: well try out what is in that article you linked, if it won't satisfy your needs you can still try ratpoison etc21:21
cbilljonesfaugusztin do you know how i make it autologin to that entry?21:21
Dr_Willislightdm has a autologin option, and it will rember the last seleceted session if the user logs out and selects a differnt one. (its stored in the .dmrc file)21:23
faugusztincbilljones: depends on your login manager (lightdm/kdm/gdm etc)21:24
faugusztincbilljones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-in-lightdm21:24
cbilljonesfaugusztin i think i found it, would i adjust /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults --session [session name]? like on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM21:24
faugusztincbilljones: indeed21:24
faugusztinand session name is the name of the session you manually created21:25
cbilljonesok i will try, any idea if vino will still run? im not at the office lol21:25
cbilljonesfaugusztin ok i will try, any idea if vino will still run? im not at the office lol21:25
faugusztincbilljones: no idea, i don't use vino21:26
Dr_WillisI would be suprised if vino still works if you are using some minimial desktop thats just running one app and no windwo manager21:26
Dr_WillisYou could setup x11vnc perhaps21:26
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kalekip1hey21:27
jmgkhello21:27
kalekip1Ever since I dual booted Windows 7 with Ubuntu 13.04 I can't successfully resume my Windows 7 hibernation21:28
kalekip1Any ideas?21:28
kalekip1I gives some hex error (something like 0x000001)21:28
bekkskalekip1: The exact error could be helpfull.21:28
clifterIs it better to install with using the "Ubuntu Software Center" or from "Terminal" using sudo apt-get install <program> ? ? Advantages or disadvantages to either way ? ?21:29
kalekip1bekks: Then I would have to hibernate again :/21:29
daysahead5i prefer apt-get21:29
daysahead5you should also check out aptitude21:29
Dr_Willistry not mounting your windows drives in linux at all. that way they are untouched. have windows check the windows partions also.. and id have to suggest check the #windows channel21:29
cbilljonesfaugusztin ok i will find out soon, just rebooted; might have to drive to office haha21:29
Dr_Willisclifter:  depends on if you know what you need. vs wanting to browse an 'app store' interface21:29
bekksclifter: Same result. Just two different front-ends, one graphical, one text-based.21:29
daysahead5you can search with apt-get e.g. apt-cache search x1121:30
kalekip1Dr_Willis: My Windows is on C:\ and Ubuntu on L:21:30
neti_netwalkerkalekip1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134169421:30
Dr_Willisclifter:  most of the time - by the time the app store loads.. i got stuff alrleady installing21:30
photonHi. Does anyone here know a good way to mirror an NNTP server (all its message contents etc) on Linux? i.e. something like wget for news groups.21:30
Dr_Williskalekip1:   2 seperate hard drives? or 2 partitions?21:31
daysahead5If I updated upstart on ubuntu do I have to restart the system for the new init version to take effect21:31
kalekip12 partitions21:31
Frank81Hello some one knows a good way to scan a network based on host list or even ip range for a open port and if open do telnet and run some command and log the result to a log file?21:31
bekksphoton: Setup a NNTP server and start receiving regular groups.21:31
kalekip1Dr_Willis: same drive21:31
kalekip1neti_netwalker: Will check it out, ty for Googeling21:31
Dr_Williskalekip1:  id make fstab entries in linux, and insure that it does not mount any windws drives. that would elimanate  linux being the issue.  of course if you boot/reboot/suspend windows sefveral times in a row with the same problem. and never go to linux inbetween - that would eliminate linux as being the casue also.21:32
kalekip1Somebody says that changing the boot flag to the first partition would help. How would I do that? Do I have to be on Ubuntu?21:33
Dr_WillisFrank81:  sounds like somthing you could script with nmap, and bash, or perl/python/awk21:33
kalekip1I'm not on Windows21:33
Dr_Williskalekip1:  gparted can set flags21:33
kalekip1I am*21:33
Dr_Willisas for setting it inside windows.. ask on #windows21:34
Dr_Willisit may allreadybe set21:34
Frank81ok so i need to write a bash script i tought there is maybe a solution for such tasks21:34
kalekip1Windows doesn't have root access, so I assume not21:34
Frank81a advanced scaner or else with guy21:34
Frank81gui :D21:34
SonikkuAmericakalekip1: Like Dr_Willis said, GParted works21:34
Dr_WillisFrank81:  theres most likely dozens of examples online of scripts that do similer things.21:34
clifterDr_Willis: Yup with you on that. I favor Terminal. Wasn't sure, Thanks much.21:34
kalekip1but I will ask21:35
kalekip1ty21:35
Frank81and a other question i have is does any one in here how i could recive or view news groups21:35
Frank81like alt.bin and so on?21:35
Dr_WillisFrank81:  use a news reader app like PAN. but i dont know of any 'free' news group servers lately.  they are getting sort of rare21:35
clifterbekks: Yup, Thanks.21:35
Dr_Willis!info pan21:35
ubottupan (source: pan): newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.139-2 (raring), package size 1197 kB, installed size 3626 kB21:35
Frank81ya i know i mean i wanna make my own server21:36
Frank81how does that work they any how need to work21:36
Dr_Willisthere should be some news group serves in the repos.21:36
Dr_Williswhy would you want to run your own. ;)21:36
Frank81and then simply run em? can i connect em to the others or how do they get data?21:36
Gallomimiaseem to be having serious trouble with my xorg.conf file. following these directions: http://www.unixmen.com/howto-install-ati-display-driver-in-ubuntu/21:36
bekksFrank81: you need to setup a NNTP server, and register for pulling groups at another NNTP server.21:36
Frank81i whant free access and don't understand it21:36
Frank81:D21:36
Frank81ah and so i probally need to pay the other nntp server so i have content like firstload?21:37
bekksFrank81: Correct.21:37
Frank81so newsgroups are nntp networks interisting only know nntp from sending config files to hardware21:38
Frank81:D21:38
Dr_Willisrunning your own server wont give you free access to pay servers21:38
Frank81i understand21:38
daysahead5after updating upstart do I have to reboot the system for the new version to take effect?21:38
Frank81it was only coz as i was young news groups was free21:38
bekksdaysahead5: Yes.21:38
Frank81and we shared software over that after mailboxes got to slow21:38
Frank81:D21:38
daysahead5that's what i thought, thanks bekks21:38
bekksFrank81: No offense meant, you must be an old man nowadays.21:39
Frank81:D21:39
Frank813221:39
Dr_WillisFrank81:  that was ages ago. ;)   Lifehacker had some articals on newsgroups eveyr so often. but i dont mess with them any more21:39
Frank81i was much into cracking software dongls21:39
Frank81:D21:39
Dr_WillisThey got so cluttered 10 or so years back - with kids posting rar'd archives that needed passwords and so forth..  got rather annoying21:40
photonbekks: no, I don't want to actually run an own NNTP server, I just want to mirror the *contents* of the NNTP messages (ie as text files on the hdd). sorry, wasn't clear.21:40
Frank81but that rar's wasn't from the real releasing scene :D21:40
Frank81we did never used passwords and now days they don't do too21:40
Frank81i was leader of Paradox 4 years long21:40
Frank81and helped in GenesisISO21:41
* Dr_Willis wonders how many blank stares that gets from the channel.21:41
Dr_Willis;)21:41
Frank81it got packed in multi archives yes but never with passwords21:41
Frank81then you got repacked stuff from web kids21:41
reisioFrank81: wow, you are so famous dude21:42
linusexcuse me, I have quetions siiiir21:42
reisiolinus: go21:42
Dr_Willislinus:  ask away21:42
reisiothere's no free newsgroup access, you have to pay someone, either with money or friendship/etc.21:43
reisioor yeah you can be nefarious :p21:43
jhutchinsreisio: Some providers still include access.21:43
reisioproviders?21:44
reisioyou're talking about people you pay21:44
reisioif you pay for something, it isn't free21:44
reisiothat's what free means, not paying21:44
Gallomimiaholy wha... i'm in over my head when it comes to configs for display manager. can anyone point me at an article about the like?21:44
* reisio puts on serious face21:44
reisioGallomimia: to do what?21:44
linusI login with another user, and when I log out I got a blank screen, what's wrong??21:44
Dr_Willislifehacker had some reviews of the differnt newsgroup provider services i recall  last year.  companies that did just news group services with the costs/limits. I think some had free limited accounts.21:44
reisiolinus: is there a cursor?21:44
cipherboyQuestion. Recently upgrade my system, using Cinnamon on Ubuntu as the default WM, however, it seems to be using KDE window decorations (lighter window border/etc versus default ambiance theme and the black cursor icons when interacting with the window decorations versus default white) Is this a known issue, and suggestions for fixing? Upgraded packages: http://pastebin.com/G9cNeDvv21:44
reisioDr_Willis: not for binaries21:45
reisiomaybe to an utterly useless extent21:45
Dr_Willisreisio:  never noticed what they provided. im just sayign  theres articals otu that sumarize them all.21:45
reisioI'm sure21:45
Gallomimiai've just built a new system and the video drivers are giving me some grief. i've eventually landed on writing an xorg.conf file and finding very little help on it, in manuals and the article i was following21:45
Dr_WillisGallomimia:  for the most part the xorg.conf is rarely needed X  auto-configures. Whats the specific video chipset, and problem.21:46
strkunity 7.0.0 -- just installed with Ubuntu 13.04 -- is not showing me an open terminal window again after switching to another window and back, very frustrating21:46
linusreisio: I just found 1 blink bling cursor "_"21:47
strksteps to reproduce: 1. open terminal 2. open firefox 3. click on terminal again (won't go there) -- same with alt-tab, you can select the terminal but there will be no window switch, temrinal will remain hidden forever21:47
GallomimiaDr_Willis: i was following the instructions i found in an article, everything went well until i rebooted. now the system has lost the primary menus, the dock, and all windowing operations run like win95 on a 28621:47
reisiolinus: what if you hit CTRL+ALT+F721:47
Dr_Willisstrk:  you can middle click on the terminal icon in the left side panel to launch a new instance.  but  sounds like some odd bug. try making a brand new user, and see if the issue also affects them21:47
Dr_Willisstrk:  if the new user does not have the same issue. that would point to some quirk in the problem users configs21:48
lmatreisio: you broke his computer :(21:48
strkDr_Willis: I'm indeed runnign a new instance, re-attaching screen from the new, and at that point I can get the list of 2 open terminal, and close the old one21:48
* reisio wins21:48
linusreisio: nothing happen siirr,21:49
chaotic_goodThe following packages have been kept back:21:49
chaotic_good  linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server21:49
chaotic_goodhow do I adjust dis?21:49
gregor30051hi, i switches a testpc from fedora to ubuntu and it seems that iptables is not so easy. is it real that there are not init scripts and no default store for the iptables config exists?21:49
hitsujiTMOsudo apt-get dist-upgrade chaotic_good21:49
Dr_Willisstrk:  so the newly made user does not have the sanme problem?21:49
reisiolinus: I'm not sure what happened, but to fix it you probably want to hit CTRL+ALT+F2, log in, sudo service lightdm erstart21:49
reisiorestart*21:49
Dr_Willis!firewakk | gregor3005121:49
Dr_Willis!firewall | gregor3005121:49
ubottugregor30051: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo21:49
chaotic_goodwell21:50
chaotic_goodI wana stay 12.04lts21:50
linusreisio: thank you siirr21:50
chaotic_goodbut on my other box I got 3.8linux21:50
Dr_Willischaotic_good:  and that will stay with 12.04lts21:50
chaotic_goodok21:50
gregor30051Dr_Willis: thx21:50
Dr_Willisit will do a mor eintensive upgrade and upgrade held packages21:50
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chaotic_goodhm21:51
hitsujiTMOchaotic_good: that will update the kernel, it will not actually trigger a distribution upgrade21:51
strkDr_Willis: logout, relogin (same user) fixed it for now21:51
chaotic_goodok21:51
chaotic_goodwhy are my other ubuntus 3.8 kernel ?21:51
chaotic_goodthis one doesnt seem to wana upgrade21:52
chaotic_goodtot hat21:52
cipherboyCorrection, it appears that it is using a different theme...tried replacing the cinnamon-settings-daemon with gnome-settings-daemon and the cursor is back, and the bulk of window decorations are back except for the very top bar (with the close/etc...however menu bar themeing is gnome again)21:52
GallomimiaDr_Willis: you asked for specific chipset? it's a radeon HD 779021:52
chaotic_goodI mean why does this box not goto 3.8 from 3.2?21:52
chaotic_goodhmm21:52
chaotic_goodis is a old box I inherited but it seems to be 12.0421:53
chaotic_goodhmmm21:53
hitsujiTMOchaotic_good: lts will stick with the same versions for stability21:53
chaotic_goodSetting up linux-server (3.2.0.54.64)   yeah see thsi si setting up 3.221:53
hitsujiTMOmoving from 3.2 to 3.8 could trigger stability issues which goes against the reasoning for the distro21:53
chaotic_goodbut why do OTHER 12.04 boxen I have goto 3.8 kernel21:53
chaotic_good????21:53
hitsujiTMO12.04.3 is 3.8   .... 12.04  original is 3.221:54
chaotic_goodoow21:54
chaotic_goodok how get to 12.04.3???21:54
chaotic_good:)21:54
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rypervenchechaotic_good: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:55
hitsujiTMOrypervenche: that doesn't do what he's asking now21:55
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RiptideHello21:55
reisiohi rip21:55
RiptideI cannot play games on Steam... :/21:56
chaotic_goodok ran that and no go21:56
hitsujiTMOchaotic_good: tbh, it's not somethign i've tried or looked into21:56
chaotic_goodI need to like move to 12.04.321:56
chaotic_goodsomehow21:56
chaotic_goodDAMNIT JIM ima doctor21:56
nightmare365hi how can i have icons next to the right click menu on nautilus?21:56
GallomimiaRiptide: me neither. i need to get video drivers working21:56
Dr_WillisI recall askubntu.com having a few posts on upgrading from 12.04.1 to 12.04.x21:56
RiptideWhenever i try to play a game, an Error comes up21:56
nightmare365im on 13.0421:56
Dr_Willisaskubuntu.com21:56
hitsujiTMOriptide: what is your    uname -r    graphics chipset and    what drivers are you running right now ( free or proprietary )21:57
Dr_Willisnightmare365:  i think the gnome devs removed them. Not sure if theres any of the tweak tools that can put them back.21:57
nightmare365aaw :(21:58
RiptideSomething like: "This application requires either GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, or the GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 + GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3 OpenGL extensions. Please install S3TC texture support"21:58
RiptideI am on Acer C7... for now21:59
hitsujiTMO riptide: what is the output of: uname -r22:00
loahow i can get better latency using systemd?22:00
hitsujiTMOritpite: also what graphiv]22:00
GallomimiaDr_Willis: I'm of the opinion that the issue with my install is due to the integrated gpu on my motherboard. haven't put in software for that one yet...22:00
hitsujiTMOritpite: also what graphics chipset do you have?22:00
HateYoFaceanyone know the release date of 13.10?22:00
RiptideHonestly I dont know22:00
reisioHateYoFace: 10th month22:01
k1l!saucy | HateYoFace22:01
ubottuHateYoFace: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.22:01
hitsujiTMO!saucy | HateYoFace22:01
RiptideIt doesnt say in System Details22:01
HateYoFacesweet thanks22:01
hitsujiTMOriptide: what is the output of: lspci22:01
chaotic_goodthis is why i love archlinux22:01
HateYoFaceand this may be the dumbest question ever but ubuntu is a rolling release correct? i wont have to format and reinstall will i?22:01
cipherboyBy the way, cinnamon version 2.0.222:01
chaotic_goodnon of this boo haa22:01
Riptidehttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6238062/22:02
Gallomimianah hate that'll work alright without a format22:02
RiptideThe output22:02
hitsujiTMOHateYoFace: you can upgrade your current system22:02
HateYoFacenice22:02
RiptideIt sucks... doesnt it?22:02
Gallomimiai think it's the program called do-release-upgrade22:03
k1l!language22:03
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.22:03
Riptide?22:03
ricardobarbosamsanyone using proxy_arp in ubuntu server?22:03
hitsujiTMOriptide: what is the output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo22:04
hitsujiTMOriptide: unfortunately you have a simple intel gpu, which is only suitable for very basic games, what games are you trying to play?22:05
Riptidehttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6238071/22:05
RiptideGmod22:05
hitsujiTMOriptide: you're gpu can barely handle unity, let alone a game ( I have pentium 947 on this machine )22:06
Riptideoh22:06
RiptideI can play SOME games...22:07
backboxhi all22:07
hitsujiTMOvery basic games, that's it. it is not a gpu thats intended for gaming in any form22:08
Riptideok22:08
backboxi want play22:08
RiptideAny good games out that I my GPU can handle?22:08
HateYoFacei just started upgrading to 13.1022:08
HateYoFaceplay World of warcraft it runs great with wine22:09
Riptidemkay22:09
RiptideOh and one more thing22:09
backboxil ya des fr ici22:10
RiptideI got this game called Super Hot and I cannot  run it22:10
RiptideAny ideas?22:10
chaotic_goodanyone here who already DID upgrade from 12.04 to 12.04.3?22:10
backboxpas de fr dans ce tchat :(22:10
thwesti'm using upstart to control a custom daemon. `start foo` works fine, but I can't get the `start on started networking-services` clause working22:11
jhutchins!fr22:11
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:11
RiptideFrench?22:11
hitsujiTMOriptide: if its http://superhotgame.com/ then it runs on the unity engine ond is prob quite cpu and gpu intensice22:12
hitsujiTMOriptide: if its http://superhotgame.com/ then it runs on the unity engine ond is prob quite cpu and gpu intensice22:12
hitsujiTMOintensive*22:12
chaotic_goodmyth2 wouldnt start in wine for me22:13
chaotic_goodnot enuf resources..22:13
chaotic_goodwtf22:13
chaotic_good1g ram22:13
Riptideawww man22:13
linusso many peoples here22:14
RiptideBut still, i wanna see how it does with my computer. I made it executable and double-clicked it, but nothing happens22:14
linusRiptide: see permission of executable file, check allow to execute22:15
RiptideI did22:15
Riptide??22:16
Riptidelol22:18
RiptideAwkward Silence22:18
chaotic_goodanyone know a email without this shty 25m limit?22:20
chaotic_goodI dont wan dropbox22:20
chaotic_gooddamn yahoo22:20
Riptide?22:21
k1llast warning now. enough swearing22:21
nightrid3rI want to use ipv6 for my lan and connect to an ipv4 only isp. any pointers or appliance like software i can use22:21
jmgkhi22:21
RiptideDo I need to have Wine to run Super Hot?22:22
reisioRiptide: nope22:22
reisioit uses mono22:22
Riptideok22:22
RiptideJust checking...22:22
reisioit comes with bundled mono, even22:22
reisioso you don't even have to have mono installed properly22:22
reisioalthough you really should, in a perfect world22:23
RiptideIts not running22:23
RiptideI even made it Executable under Permissions...22:24
reisiorun it from a terminal22:24
reisiosee its error msgs22:24
RiptideHow/22:24
reisio./foo.x8622:24
RiptideI am confuzeled22:25
fishsceneRiptide: You'll need to open terminal and "cd" into the directory the game is sitting in. You then run it by typing in "./(name of file)"22:26
lmatRiptide: Did you try using console ?22:26
OerHeksRiptide, where is that game located? on a NTFS partition?22:26
linusyou CAN not change permission on NTFS partition22:27
RiptideThis is what happened:22:27
Riptide./SUPERHOT-LINUX.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory22:27
lmatRiptide: (I'm not sure how to do much of anything using the mouse) cd to the dir and  stat -c %a fileyouwanttorun22:27
lmatRiptide: And make sure it's executable. I guess it is if you got that error.22:28
OerHeks!find  libGLU22:28
ubottuFound: libglu1-mesa, libglu1-mesa-dev, libgluegen2-build-java, libgluegen2-doc, libgluegen2-jni22:28
Riptide?22:29
lmatOerHeks: coolo!22:29
fishsceneRiptide: OerHeks was running a search for the item that was reporting an error for you.22:29
Riptideoh22:29
OerHeksmy wild guess would be libglu1-mesa22:29
RiptideDo I need to install that or something?22:30
fishsceneSounds about right. Although is it installed and reporting it can't find a resource or is it saying it doesn't exist?22:30
OerHeksRiptide, for 32 or 64 bit?22:31
RiptideI have a 64-bit OS22:32
Danny67892Thats sucks22:32
Riptide?22:32
OerHeksRiptide, try " sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa " if that fails > " sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa:i386  "22:32
Danny67892medz we should have like a secret lanugauge22:33
RiptideI tried the first one22:33
Riptideand it said it was already the  newest version. I did the Second one and it installed some stuff22:34
fishsceneThere's a virtual package for libglu1 as well.22:35
akurilinIs there a way to backup a routing table in case I completely screw it up?22:35
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rypervencheakurilin: rebooting will fix it if you're doing it all from the command line. If you're doing it from files, revert the files back.22:36
akurilinmaybe just save netstat -rn results somewhere and then try to recreate them by hand with route if things go south?22:36
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akurilinrypervenche, where is the routing table in files? I see the docs reference /proc/net/route22:36
akurilinbut I think that's not actually a config file22:36
RiptideAfter Installing... what do I do?22:38
Pop-TartHi! I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS. I wanted to install the drivers for my graphics card, but I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I downloaded the .tgz from https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intel-linux-graphics-installer, extracted it, gave it +x permissions, and then ran sudo ./downgrade.sh Was that the correct thing to do or should I have done sudo apt-get installxserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-raring?22:38
rypervencheakurilin: You'll need to ask someone else here. I don't use Ubuntu anymore. Might be your interfaces file or something that interacts with it.22:38
akurilinrypervenche, kk, thanks22:39
yeikmy package manager is broken with libldap not upgrading. anybody able to help look at it?22:39
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daftykinsPop-Tart: why are you trying to use them? are you on a newer intel processor like ivy bridge / haswell22:39
wilee-nileePop-Tart: you tried the ubuhtu repos yet?22:39
rypervencheakurilin: Editing the file would be for a permanent change. Using things like ip or route would be for changes on-the-fly, but they wouldn't persist a reboot.22:40
Pop-TartNo, I've got old-ish hardware, and I figured it'd run better if it had the proper drivers22:40
jmgkhm22:40
Pop-Tartowner@owner-W3650:~$ lspci | grep VGA22:40
Pop-Tart00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)22:40
akurilinrypervenche, sounds good. I'm just trying to figure out why I'm not talking correctly to my VPN subnet, and syslog seems to suggest my messages are being kidnapped by the first entry in the routing table, which sends them nowhere useful22:41
akurilinrypervenche, so I'll try nuking that for a sec see if that fixes it22:41
Gallomimiawow. can someone suggest why installing video board drivers has resulted in the gui not displaying my menus or sidebar, or being able to move close or minimize any windows?22:42
wilee-nileePop-Tart: how is it running as of now, are you sure anything needs robe done?22:42
James_EppI'm using the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro to boot the ubuntu 12.04.3 desktop live cd over the network. However, the nfs exports table doesn't seem to work no matter what options I use. Could someone assist me?22:42
wilee-nileeto be*22:42
Pop-TartI'll test, could you give me a second, please?22:42
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Pop-TartIt's kinda laggy22:45
Pop-TartVideo isn't in sync with audio22:46
Pop-Tartbut that could just be bad hardware22:46
Pop-Tarthttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=shU4gsAK22:47
Pop-TartSo is there anything I could do (change drivers, etc) or is it just crap hardware and can't be fixed without upgrading?22:47
Pop-Tartnevermind22:50
Pop-TartIt seems to have magically improved on it's own somehow22:50
never2fari'm trying to clear dnsmasq cache (using kill -HUP or restart) but still serves me from cache ...what do you recommand ? ...thank you22:50
never2far*recommend22:51
jhutchinsPop-Tart: The drivers included with ubuntu should be best for that card.22:51
jhutchinsPop-Tart: Using drivers from some random third-party source is probably a bad idea.22:52
Pop-Tartgpg: requesting key 75E52366 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com22:53
Pop-Tartgpg: key 75E52366: "Rodrigo Vivi (Intel Linux Graphics) <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>"22:53
Pop-TartOh, so what should I do then?22:53
wilee-nileePop-Tart: I would watch what is running, if any thing is eating the cpu or ram, with like htop, should run fine with xfce22:53
Pop-TartIs what's on there right now okay, or should I try to re-install the default drivers?22:53
Pop-TartI'm actually using xubuntu-desktop22:53
jhutchinsPop-Tart: I would.22:54
Pop-TartOh boy.22:54
jhutchinsPop-Tart: For intel processors the stock xorg drivers are usually the best integrated with the OS.22:54
yeikPop-Tart, xfce is a good de22:54
Pop-TartSo what should I do then? What's the easiest way to re-install the default drivers?22:54
* SonikkuAmerica <3's XFCE22:55
Pop-TartIt's been a ferw years since I last used Ubuntu.22:55
Pop-Tart10.10 or 11.04 I think22:55
yeiksame22:56
Pop-TartWhat would you do then? Just look over the .sh file and sudo apt-get remove anything it installed?22:56
Pop-TartAnd what's the name of the default driver, in case it removed it?22:57
jhutchinsyeik: While the tools that manage the packages have the same names, packages are one of the biggest differences between debian and debian-derived distros like ubuntu.22:58
yeikjhutchins, the packages that are installed yes.23:01
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yeikjhutchins, do you have any thoughts on my problem then?23:03
Gallomimiacan anyone please help me figure out why my entire windowing system appears borked after installing some gpu drivers?23:03
Pop-TartHere's downgrade.sh if anyone wants it: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mXx82WmZ23:03
Pop-TartSo just apt-get remove everything listed and apt-get install the last one?23:03
fishsceneGallomimia: I assume you have already restarted?23:05
Gallomimiafishscene: yeah, that's when the problems started23:05
Pop-TartReally, any tips on getting the default back?23:06
fishsceneGallomimia: Unfortunately, that's the best I can do. I found I had those same issues concerning certain AMD/ATI binary blobs (non-free). I was unable to find a fix in my short time playing around with it.23:07
Gallomimiaah. well i've just realized that i uninstalled whatever default drivers there were23:07
Gallomimiaso, that's why things are dreadfully slow now23:08
Gallomimiasomething failed when building this driver23:08
cmosguyhi all23:08
Pop-TartIs the easiest thing to get the default drivers back pop in the install CD & start fresh?23:08
Gallomimiawhat drivers?23:08
cmosguyis there a way to speed up the ubuntu windows and resource under VMware unity?23:08
Pop-TartI was trying to avoid that23:09
Pop-Tartbecause I've got 1 Mbps internet23:09
Pop-Tartso updating would be slow23:09
Gallomimiaprobably best to reinstall them using apt-get23:09
Pop-Tartand take another two-three hours23:09
Pop-TartThat's just it23:09
Gallomimiawell, you have the files handy to do it?23:09
Pop-TartI don't know the name of the default one or what got changed23:09
Gallomimiaah23:09
Gallomimiaproblems abound23:09
fishscenecmosguy: You could try playing around with the VM's settings and enabling/disabling 3D accelleration23:10
Pop-TartThis is the downgrade.sh file that installed the "proper" drivers http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mXx82WmZ23:10
Gallomimiai think i've missed something. i downloaded the drivers that amd's site gave me, that built and installed okay23:10
Gallomimiabu23:10
Gallomimiabut i'm missing the catalyst software23:11
Pop-TartReally, any suggestions? Start fresh?23:12
Johnny_Linuxreconfigure xorg ?23:12
Gallomimiano results :(23:14
Gallomimiareconfigure gives no output23:14
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Pop-Tartoh23:17
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Pop-Tartwhat about adding xorg-edgers and apt-get upgrading, would that work?23:17
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Papa_Dochi how to uninstall kde completely from ubuntu 13.10?23:18
Pop-Tartsudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop23:19
reisioPapa_Doc: and use what instead?23:19
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cgtdkPop-Tart: Pretty sure removing "kubuntu-desktop" won't remove all the KDE junk23:20
tgm4883Pop-Tart, probably need an autoremove in there too23:20
andrewacltIf I install 13.10 beta will I get all the updates on the 17th?23:21
Papa_DocUnity. I want to keep kde but I want to remove it anyways because it changed my login screen and I want the original login back23:21
glycanI somehow managed to have a mouse in my TTY.23:21
tgm4883andrewaclt, yes you will23:21
andrewaclttgm4883, so it just turns into the full version without anything extra?23:21
cgtdkhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu there's a list of packages here to remove Kubuntu completely, but it hasn't been updated for 13.0423:22
tgm4883andrewaclt, and support for 13.10 is currently in #ubuntu+123:22
andrewaclts/full version/non-beta23:22
tgm4883andrewaclt, yes23:22
andrewaclttgm4883, ok thanks23:22
sgehrmanJust installed 13.10 and my .Xmodmap is no longer loading.  (I'm a noob, but googled a bunch already)23:22
glycanI'm not complaining or anything. It's pretty cool, I just have no frigging clue how any amount of messing around with service lightdm could of caused that.23:22
Papa_Doccgtdk I'm on 13.1023:22
sgehrmanis there a better way to swap the left cntrl and alt?23:22
tgm4883Papa_Doc, #ubuntu+1  but you should just remove the login screen kde package I think23:23
ghost_hey guys fast question im getting trouble with blackbuntu wifi adapters im currently using my hp pavilion g723:23
tgm4883!blackbuntu | ghost_23:24
Pop-TartI don't see intel or anything in software sources, so if it upgrades the packages from xorg-edgers, wouldn't it replace the intel ones and change them to the X/Xorg/default ones?23:24
Papa_DocHow do I remove it? I'm still getting the hang of linux thanks for thee patience23:24
ghost_yes blackbuntu23:24
tgm4883ghost_, that isn't supported here23:24
ghost_oh am sorry i did not know anyways whenever im booting any ubuntu o.s its not bootin up properly on the hp23:25
ghost_any solution23:25
lazorsghost_: Wrong channel.23:25
XecuterHi! I have some questions about installing Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro. I`ve already installed Elementray OS (an Ubuntu flavour) but I didn`t install rEFIt first, so my boot steps are a little f-ed up. As of now grub boots first, but if I want to boot OS X I need to hold the option key, and then select boot from disk. Can I fix this so that rEFIt is used?23:25
linusexecuse me, how to change swap memory23:25
wilee-nileelinus, Change in what way?23:26
Johnny_Linuxswapiness23:26
linusfrom 5 gig to 1 gig23:26
Pop-TartI don't see intel or anything in software sources, so if it upgrades the packages from xorg-edgers, wouldn't it replace the intel ones and change them to the X/Xorg/default ones? <- Wouldn't that work?23:26
Pop-Tartsudo apt-get install gparted23:26
wilee-nileelinus, do it in gparted if you have the space, make a new one.23:27
Pop-TartThen open gparted from the dash23:27
linuswhat the type of partition system ext or swap23:27
Pop-Tartswap23:27
linusouh thank23:27
reisioXecuter: grub should be able to manage whatever refit can23:27
reisioXecuter: but yes, you can change whatever23:28
Xecuterreisio: ah i see, but as of now i`m not able to boot os x from grub, even though it`s listed in the grub menu23:28
reisioXecuter: can fix that, too23:28
Xecuterreisio: I just get a black screen23:28
reisioXecuter: something you use Mac OS for, though? :p23:28
Xecuterreisio: yeah audio stuff :p23:29
reisioaudio stuff you like paying for :p23:29
sbimikeis it possible for me to install 12.04 LTS Server 64-bit and then upgrade to a specific kernel like 3.2.0-31 ?23:30
Xecuterreisio: can`t live without pro tools or ableton :p23:30
sbimikei dont want go go beyond that; i have to match a specific driver .ko23:30
krabadorsbimike, you can , if you want, and if you know how, mod your ubuntu installation23:31
sbimikewell whats the most stable way to install a fresh ubuntu on a specific kernel version?23:31
reisioXecuter: there are alternatives, you'd have to learn how to use them in an equivalent fashion, but then, since they're open source, you would basically NEVER have to relearn or pay for software for this task again23:31
reisioever23:31
reisiofind a bug? You can fix it yourself if you want23:31
reisiosbimike: kernel is one of the easiest bits to swap23:32
reisiosbimike: if there's a prebuilt kernel image of the version you want for any Debian-based distro (or even almost any distro at all), you can pretty much just put it where it belongs and say where it is23:32
sbimikereisio: you're talking about modding the .iso?23:33
reisiosbimike: just needs to be told to load your important driver modules23:33
Gallomimiaalright. i have this output from fglrxinfo (finally) http://pastebin.com/f1B2F48T what does it mean?23:33
reisiosbimike: no, I'm talking about copying a file to /boot/, modifying grub.cfg, and calling it a day23:33
reisiosbimike: building it yourself is more involved, but also fairly simple23:33
sbimikereisio there are linux-headers-4.3.0-31-virtual23:33
reisiosbimike: headers are something else23:34
sbimikei'm on 12.04 lts 64-bit now with 3.2.0-39-virtual23:34
Xecuterreisio: there is no substitute for pro tools or ableton on a professional level, if pro tools came to linux i would be soooo happy!23:34
krabadorsbimike, g23:34
reisioXecuter: sure there is23:34
reisiounless you define professional as costing you money :p23:34
krabadorsbimike, for a server edition , the best choice is a kernel lts23:34
SonikkuAmericaXecuter: How's Pro Tools under Wine?23:35
krabadorsbimike, kernel.org can tell you more23:35
linusDamn I Love Linux , I don't know what to do , it's make me crazy23:35
sbimikeso i'm hoping to install fresh 12.04 lts and then switch to kernel 3.2.0-31 instead of 3.2.0-3923:35
XecuterSonikkuAmerica: haven`t tried, and not going to try. can`t afford to lose performans to a wine layer23:35
reisiolinus: ikr23:36
linusreisio:  ikr ?23:36
SonikkuAmericaI know, right?23:36
reisioSonikkuAmerica: ikr23:36
linusopss23:36
Xecuterreisio: i define as professional as earning money on it ;)23:36
linusA.R23:37
reisioXecuter: I can earn money making music with arecord and a mic23:37
SonikkuAmericaLol IMHO idc23:37
reisioor an online Flash/HTML5 sequencer :p23:37
SonikkuAmericalol arecord23:37
reisiocould make money selling copies of music created with http://www.incredibox.fr/23:37
reisioor going outside and sitting on a bucket23:38
Xecuterreisio: haha, well aparently you don`t so...23:38
reisiono I use a saxamaphone :p23:38
reisiowhat do protools and ableton have that lmms hasn't?23:38
linushow to make money on internet23:38
reisiolinus: step 1) lie23:38
utusanis this ubuntu?23:38
reisioutusan: hi23:39
linusstep 2 ???23:39
reisiolinus: profit23:39
utusanwhere are the mods23:39
reisioutusan: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list23:39
sbimikeapt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-31-virtual && reboot23:39
glycanIs it possible to have unicode in a terminal?23:45
* wilee-nilee calls giant steps 1, 2, 123423:46
glycanHaving french accents be displayed as "'a Londres" or "Fran,cais" is all very well and great but I'd rather be able to see them properly.23:46
Xecuterok so back to the issue: how do I solve the black screen after selecting os x in grub?23:46
glycanAnd write?23:46
somsipglycan: yes - in a terminal that supports unicode, eg rxvt-unicode23:46
reisioglycan: and an appropriate font chosen23:47
reisiodejavu should suffice for european additions alone23:47
glycansomsip, reisio: I mean in a TTY, like C-A-F123:47
reisioXecuter: you going to solve that and then replace the OS, or?23:47
reisioglycan: you'd need a special font, like terminus23:47
glycanHow dan I even change the font of a TTY?23:48
reisioglycan: there's a config file somewhere23:48
reisioI don't know where on ubuntu, someone else will23:48
Xecuterreisio: yes I was thinking about installing ubuntu gnome, but i suspect the problem will remain, so if I know how to solve it it won`t be a problem later23:48
Dr_Willisfor the console. theres a config file in /etc/ i tweaked it ages ago glycan23:48
reisioXecuter: well if you're going to change OS, I'd wait to see if the problem even persists to address it23:49
Dr_Willis /etc/console-setup/ has fonts i recall that cab be used23:49
jmgkhello Dr_Willis23:49
Dr_Willishowdies23:50
reisiohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_Extensible_Authentication_Protocol23:50
reisiooops, wrong chan23:50
wilee-nileereisio, speaking of the saxamaphone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOEF7f2HGoE23:51
reisiowilee-nilee: delta city blues23:51
wilee-nileeI play the reeds and fretless bass23:52
Guest44788hi?23:52
reisiobye23:53
reisiowilee-nilee: so you play actual bass :p23:53
wilee-nileereisio, Oh yes I used to play jazz locally I studied theory...etc23:53
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reisioyup, evolution, etc.23:54
wilee-nilee-reisio- Portland ORE.23:54
wilee-nileeI went to MT Hood CC23:54
wilee-nileeexcellent jazz an music school at one time23:55
wilee-nilee-reisio- I haven't for awhile, been pursuing other stuff, I will again though23:55
wilee-nileeDo that, ;)23:57
wilee-nileecool23:57
reisioso cool23:57
reisiolike if stan getz and charlie parker had twins23:58
wilee-nileewe hunt down linus he lives in beaverton, lol23:58
BarryBlackhey hey23:58
reisiobeaverton, I know why you'd live there23:58
reisioBarryBlack: heyo23:58
BarryBlackakward question, but does anyone have any experience with nullmailer?23:58
reisiowhat if they had23:58
BarryBlackthen i would ask very kindly if they could help me a little23:59
reisiohelp you a little with what?23:59

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