[00:01] <Ponch0> can i build a .deb package without having build-essnetial?
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> nuf0xx, max in size or speed, be clearer.
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> the card reader should not be limited in size, post the errors
[00:04] <OerHeks> Ponch0, not likely, as it is the metapackage for building tools
[00:04] <Ponch0> heh, thanks
[00:06] <nuf0xx> the card does not mount and dmesg gives :  http://pastebin.com/s78duajX
[00:07] <zykotick9> nuf0xx: can chance you could repost that to paste.ubuntu.com?  i'd be interested to see as well...
[00:07] <zykotick9> s/can/any/
[00:07] <nuf0xx> np
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> nuf0xx, I would ask in #hardware I think it is the reader, the card reader on my acer aspire d250 has rarely worked I bout a usb converter.
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> bought*
[00:09] <nuf0xx> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233865/
[00:09] <nuf0xx> wilee-nilee: I'll try there too
[00:10] <zykotick9> nuf0xx: thanks.  sorry, i have NO idea what that means...  best of luck.
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> with a voltage fail my assumption is a hardware problem, just a guess though
[00:13] <HateYoFace> sup guys
[00:14] <danny4way> How do I download javac on ubuntu through terminal?
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> !info javac
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> !find javac
[00:15] <jfmario> !pwd
[00:15] <jfmario> cool
[00:16] <usr13> is language-selector-gnome an essential package
[00:16] <danny4way> It says !find: event not found wilee-nilee
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, what release are you running?
[00:17] <Ponch0> anyone help out a bro a fellow citizen with a network driver setup?
[00:17] <danny4way> 13
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> 13 what danny4way
[00:17] <danny4way> 13.04
[00:17] <usr13> is language-selector-gnome an essential package?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> the bot syas not available in raring
[00:18] <Guest27844> guys, trying to install ubuntu 13.04 on my win8 laptop is making me pull my hair out
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, you might start here, or a ppa. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=javac+13.04&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=RThbUrreOKbRiwK3wICwAg
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Guest27844
[00:19] <zykotick9> usr13: i wouldn't recommend trying to remove it, if that's what you are asking.
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> Guest27844, more http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[00:19] <Guest27844> thanks wilee-nilee
[00:19] <danny4way> Thank you.
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> Guest27844, no problem it is a bit of problem for some.
[00:20] <usr13> I'm getting "Errors were encountered while processing: language-selector-gnome"
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, hopefully it gets you closer.
[00:20] <Guest27844> wilee-nilee, like, ubuntu installs but there is no grub or way to boot the installed ubuntu, windows just starts up
[00:20] <danny4way> Yeah .I will try to figure it out
[00:21] <Irrelium> I created an Ubuntu Live USB using the universal USB creator from pendrivelinux.com, and I set it to use persistence, but for some reason, the persistence isn't working. When I restart the computer, everything is deleted. I was wondering if anybody had any suggestions. Google isn't much help
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> Guest27844, If it is installed some find the bootrepair app working to fix this, it generates a bootinfo summary keep the url it generates. there is a thread on this app at the Ubuntu forums to post it to in these situations if the app does not fix it, or use here.
[00:21] <Irrelium> I also tried reformatting the drive and installing again with persistence using LiLi USB creator, with the same results
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> Irrelium, try unetbootin
[00:22] <Irrelium> wilee-nilee: I was experiencing a weird glitch with UNetBootin and wasn't able to use it
[00:23] <Irrelium> For some reason it wasn't detecting my USB drive
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> Irrelium, Yu can have a persistent partition instead as well
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> with a partition you can make it bas big as needed.
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> as*
[00:24] <Irrelium> Isn't that pretty much what the USB installers do?
[00:24] <Ponch0> my internet worked during install, is there anyway i can boot from install cd to set up my internet card ?
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> Irrelium, No the casper-rw is in the install, this is another partiton.
[00:25] <Irrelium> Oh
[00:25] <Irrelium> Maybe I will try that then
[00:25] <Irrelium> Thanks
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> Irrelium, For example I have a 32 gig thumb I can make a 1 gig partition for the iso, and 15 gig for the persistent
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> er 32 gig
[00:26] <usr13> "language-selector-gnome is broken or not fully installed"
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> !details | isr13
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> usr13, YOu are not new here you know the detail drill
[00:28] <Ponch0> gaaah!!!
[00:28] <bonhoeffer> it looks like all my audio is muted -- but volume is up all the way -- any tips?
[00:29] <Ponch0> how is build-ESSENTIAL not included with ubuntu install?!!?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> !alsa
[00:33] <usr13> Unable to locate package language-sector-common
[00:33] <usr13> (Any suggestions?)
[00:34] <Ponch0> anyone help a brutha out with some internets setup?
[00:34] <Guest27844> Ponch0, I can (possibly)
[00:34] <Ponch0> awesome!
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> usr13, try spelling it correctly, language-selector-common
[00:35] <Ponch0> i'm on a different computer so any output i have to type up .. heh
[00:35] <Guest27844> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233934/
[00:35] <usr13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233506/
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> Guest27844, wubi does not work in W8.
[00:35] <marlonbrando78> I get the following error Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
[00:36] <Ponch0> Guest27844, i have the drivers but I need build-essnetial which won't install, and linux headers generic which the computer claims to have.
[00:36] <Guest27844> I just installed the standard way (installer)
[00:37] <butcher> chats
[00:37] <usr13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233937/
[00:37] <Guest27844> When I rebooted it showed Windows Boot Manager not finding a file "/ubuntu/<something>/<something.mbr>
[00:37] <lukodiablo> hi guys....i've try run apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essentil and i get..... Package linux-headers-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> Guest27844, sda4 shows a whole lotta wubi you tried at some point. I'm not real up on uefi anyway, i would use the bootrepair thread at the UF, if no one knows here.
[00:37] <daftykins> lukodiablo: run "uname -r" then install "linux-headers-(write here what uname -r reported)"
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> Guest27844, You have windows backed up?
[00:38] <Guest27844> wilee-nilee, nah
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> Guest27844, Really well best of luck I would not mess with this without a backup myself, takes just a little effort.
[00:39] <Guest27844> Ah
[00:39] <marlonbrando78> Hi I get the following error Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
[00:39] <daftykins> marlonbrando78: i wouldn't worry about that.
[00:40] <marlonbrando78> ok tks
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> windows I always backup the installs and updates take to long compared to linux in general.
[00:41] <marlonbrando78> daftykins I have another issue, I have no sound indicator, no sound. My hardware is there when I LSPCI
[00:41] <daftykins> no idea sorry.
[00:41] <usr13> I'm about to give up on this, but want to give it one last shot.  I've gotten this laptop with 11.10 and have tried to do distribution upgrade to 12.04.3 but it ran into filesystem errors, I ran fsck and fixed 'em, but now it's stuck with Errors were encountered while processing: ... See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233455/
[00:41] <lukodiablo> daftykins:  wheni  run unamme -r i get 3.2.6
[00:42] <daftykins> lukodiablo: right but what's the full output...
[00:42] <daftykins> usr13: do you need anything from the 11.10 install?
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> usr13, This your 11.10 install originally?
[00:43] <lukodiablo> daftykins: Reading state information... Done
[00:43] <lukodiablo> linux-headers-3.2.6 is already the newest version.
[00:44] <daftykins> lukodiablo: sooo... what's not working? :)
[00:44] <daftykins> what are you *actually* trying to do?
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> lukodiablo: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[00:46] <usr13> Yes, it was 11.10 and attempted to upgrade to 12.04.3
[00:46] <usr13> Here is sources.list:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6233956/
[00:47] <Ponch0> ok, how do I know which file to install with "dpkg -i"?
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> Ponch0 dpkg --get-selections
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> Ponch0 sorry, i misread your question, ignore me
[00:48] <lukodiablo> i've try install my wirelles http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Sitecom_WLA-6100 by follow the http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53474
[00:48] <Ponch0> hutsuji thank you haha
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> lukodiablo, what does uname -a show
[00:49] <atril> hi
[00:49] <lukodiablo> wilee-nilee: 3.2.6
[00:49] <atril> I'm trying to install liebmu but I get this message: libemu : Depende: libc6 (>= 2.15) pero está instalado 2.13-38
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> lukodiablo, no the whole output
[00:50] <atril> how can I update libc6 ?
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> lukodiablo, backtrack is eol and not supported here.
[00:51] <Ponch0> how do I know which file to install with dpkg -i?
[00:51] <lukodiablo> wilee-nilee: okay :(
[00:51] <crimsonmane> I am having issue getting something to run on boot, prior to logging in. This is the /etc/init/ file contents: http://dpaste.com/1415814/
[00:52] <jcbjoe> hi all .. im really trying to stick with linux but debian / gentoo / ubuntu 13 / windows 8 / archlinux they all consume my battery in almost 1 hour .. i heard ubuntu 10.04 and 10.0 are good .. 1 thing i noticed the iso images are server images .. could i install them and just put on a window manager and i should be good ?
[00:52] <crimsonmane> jcbjoe: most likely cause is that you have a bad battery which needs replaced.
[00:52] <daftykins> jcbjoe: are you sure your battery isn't just faulty? :)
[00:52] <ponbiki> ^
[00:53] <daftykins> if even Windows (installed properly) gives poor battery life, then you're out of luck
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> jcbjoe, support starts at 12.04 unless it's a sever.
[00:54] <moes> Had a grub rescue problem so I ran boot-repair from Community Ubuntu...sudo add-apt-reposotory ppa! yannubuntu/boot-repair...repairs worked..now where do I find the ppa to remove or do I need to remove ??
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> moes, You don't have to remove it but you can purge it.
[00:55] <techlord> Hello all, looking for some help with file sharing from ubuntu to windows 7, I can see the folders but when i click on the folders I get a prompt for username and password but after I put int he right info it just prompts again, no matter waht I enter.
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> techlord, this with samba?
[00:56] <atril>  /quit
[00:56] <techlord> Yes samba is setup and the address in the nautalis shows smb
[00:56] <moes> wilee-nilee, Thanks for the info
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> !samba
[00:58] <Ponch0> what does sudo apt-get install linux-headers 'uname -r' do?
[00:58] <Ponch0> I'd try it
[00:58] <Ponch0> but I have no internet connection
[00:58] <Ponch0> and I need that package
[00:58] <Ponch0> whatever it is
[00:58] <FloodBot1> Ponch0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:59] <Ponch0> suck my balls
[01:00] <chegney> My wireless adapter is not being detected automatically, I suspect it is because I need to load firmware or something like that, how do I tell what adapter I have so I can get the firmware and then where do I load it at?
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> chegney, this a usb, if so run lsusb and identify it, if internal run lspci.
[01:01] <chegney> wilee-nilee: okay thanks, I've found that it is a BCM4312
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | chegney
[01:02] <Guest54947> I finally got win8/ubuntu dual boot working
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> cool
[01:03] <Guest54947> but the grub menu is a disaster area, lol
[01:03] <Marlenee> is this conf right in " CRON " to run file every 3 hour ?    * 3 * * * path/to/file
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> Guest54947, YOu can run update-grub to start with and it can be modified.
[01:03] <Guest54947> From within the installed ubuntu?
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> Guest54947, yeah.
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> Guest54947, You might check with #grub
[01:05] <Flannel> Marlenee: that'll run at 3am, you want */3 instead of 3 (anything divisible by 3)
[01:05] <jrib> Marlenee: no
[01:07] <Marimar> buna dimineata
[01:07] <Marimar> sunt si romani pe-aici ?
[01:08] <Marlenee> Flannel : can i run jib only one time on fixed time
[01:08] <Marimar> nu, niciunul ?
[01:08] <Marimar> adica am intrat degeaba ?
[01:08] <Nelluk> whats the deal is #php.. joining it just fails silently on my client?
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> Nelluk, Thats not a channel
[01:09] <jrib> Nelluk: #freenode can help you
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> on freenode anyway
[01:10] <jcbjoe> it is a hannel
[01:10] <jcbjoe> im in there
[01:10] <hellknight> so.. this will be the first time that I'll upgrade to another version of Ubuntu without installing it. How do I do it via the command line?
[01:10] <jcbjoe> s/hannel/channel/
[01:10] <jrib> jcbjoe: you're likely in ##php
[01:10] <jcbjoe> ok cool
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> !ro | Marimar
[01:10] <chegney> i can't find this... System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers
[01:11] <Marimar> mc wilee-nilee
[01:11] <chegney> supposed to be in the desktop menu?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> chegney, run software-properties-gtk
[01:11] <Marimar> tks
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> no problem marienz
[01:11] <techlord> I dont remmeber who sent me the links but those are the links I have been looking over before and still can not seem to get it setup right, or I am just not smart enough to figure it out :)
[01:11] <jrib> is there some way to show the current fontconfig settings?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> Marimar, *
[01:11] <Marimar> :)
[01:11] <brobriobri> test
[01:12] <alumno_> Hola
[01:12] <alumno_> Hola
[01:13] <alumno_> fossterer
[01:14] <chegney> wilee-nilee: that doesn't show anythig for Hardware/Additional Drivers
[01:14] <fishcooker> how to know display resolution of our monitor?
[01:14] <buu> fishcooker: Get the serial number?
[01:15] <usr13> fishcooker: You mean what you have on  it now?
[01:15] <usr13> fishcooker: xrandr
[01:16] <usr13> fishcooker: xrandr with no arguments shows what you have now as well as available options.
[01:16] <fishcooker> yes usr13 .. this box costum.. we don't have the serial for this box buu
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> chegney, should be on far right tab, what release is this?
[01:17] <chegney> wilee-nilee: 12.04 LTS?
[01:17] <chegney> something like that
[01:18] <usr13> fishcooker: The one with the * is what you have now.
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> chegney, lsb_release -a will tell you
[01:19] <chegney> wilee-nilee: 12.04.3 LTS
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> chegney, should be installed as an app in 12.04 but here is a link. https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/jockey-gtk/
[01:28] <thenetbook> Hello
[01:29] <reisio> 'lo
[01:29] <compdoc> hello?
[01:30] <thenetbook> I have recently downloaded a game called "Super Hot" on my main computer, which has Ubuntu 12.04. Is it possible to play that game on 12.04?
[01:30] <reisio> thenetbook: where'd you download it from?
[01:30] <chegney> wilee-nilee: I show that jockey-gtk is already installed
[01:30] <thenetbook> superhotgame.com
[01:31] <reisio> thenetbook: SUPERHOT-LINUX.zip?
[01:31] <thenetbook> yes
[01:31] <thenetbook> I extracted it
[01:31] <reisio> mmhmmm
[01:31] <reisio> and then?
[01:31] <thenetbook> And then i made the .86x file as Executable
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> chegney, not sure what you need, tell the channel the issues.
[01:32] <thenetbook> I try to open it, but nothing happens
[01:32] <yesyayen> error during ./configure ...   "checking for python libraries... not found      configure: error: could not find Python headers or library"
[01:32] <James_Epp> thenetbook: let me think
[01:32] <James_Epp> I had that issue once
[01:32] <yesyayen> python installed properly
[01:32] <James_Epp> thenetbook: Give me a minute or five to download it and see what I can find out for ya.
[01:32] <thenetbook> ok
[01:32] <reisio> thenetbook: you tried double-clicking it, you mean?
[01:32] <thenetbook> thank you
[01:32] <thenetbook> yes
[01:33] <reisio> thenetbook: try renaming it to .bin
[01:33] <thenetbook> ok
[01:33] <reisio> oh it's in C#?
[01:34] <chegney> wilee-nilee: ah, never mind, after I rebooted after installing b43-fwcutter, an Additional Drivers thing showed up at the top next to mail icon
[01:34] <yeik> i am having a problem with updates - http://pastebin.com/X7KW8v7w any thoughts?
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> chegney, cool.
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> yeik, yeah broken packages, you add any additional repos, say ppa's?
[01:37] <James_Epp> thenetbook: Still downloading. Eventually, mate.
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys im having problems updating i keep getting errors with some of the repos
[01:37] <yeik> wilee-nilee, not recently. let me check whats in the list
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> what can i do
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> it keeps saying check ur internet connection
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> but my internet connection is fine
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> yeik, check sources.list.d and sources.list
[01:39] <James_Epp> thenetbook: interesting. I downloaded it and it opened up right away.
[01:39] <James_Epp> no problems here......idk what to tell you.
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> yeik, The 32 packages n ot upgraded looks like a partial upgrade was run, or additional repos, or something is wrong anyway
[01:40] <reisio> James_Epp: by double-clicking the .x86?
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> or are blocked due to the broken packages
[01:41] <James_Epp> reisio: Yup.
[01:41] <Irrelium> I am having a weird problem where I create a persistent live USB with Ubuntu 13.04, but when I use it, the persistency doesn't work (everything is reset when the computer restarts). Does anybody know what could be causing that?
[01:41] <yeik> The issue seemed to happen when I was low on memory and tried to update. it had an issue and I figured I would reboot and try later.
[01:41] <yeik> wilee-nilee, I disabled all extra PPA sources using the update manager.
[01:42] <yeik> I still get the same error
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> yeik, disabling does not remove what has been installed from them, if that is athe issue.
[01:43] <yeik> wilee-nilee, the package having issues is libldap-2.4-2
[01:43] <yeik> I did do a dpkg --remove -force-remove-reinstreq for that, and it led me to a loop, wine1.4 and wine1.4-common depend on each other and can't be removed
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> yeik, I'm not familiar with what that is or what its for, so more details to the channel might help, or looking at the ppa's, at this point this is just a assumption as to them being part of the problem.
[01:45] <yeik> wilee-nilee, wine or libldap?
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> yeik, I don't use wine, so not familiar.
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> !info libldap-2.4-2
[01:46] <yeik> wilee-nilee, wine is a windows emulator, should be in the normal repo and has not caused any problems for any of machines before. this is the only one having problems.
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> yeik, I know what it is I use windows for windows apps, I would suspect it is part of the wine ppa, you have it?
[01:48] <yeik> wilee-nilee, there is no wine ppa in my sources list
[01:48] <Guest89301> o/
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> yeik, What ubuntu release are you running, honestly this is not an area I can nothing but google, which you can do
[01:50] <yeik> wilee-nilee, uname -a shows 3.2.0-54-generic #82-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:08:42 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:50]  * yeik nods wilee-nilee 
[01:50] <yeik> I just know sometimes more people have had issues troubleshooting package issues and able to work around it.
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> yeik, how about lsb_release -a
[01:51] <yeik> escription:	Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[01:51] <yeik> Release:	12.04
[01:51] <yeik> Codename:	precise
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> yeik, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/libldap-2.4-2  I think packages have been removed and exchanged for others maybe.
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> yeik, Have you used the update manager at all, I wonder if you have run a partial upgrade?
[01:54] <yeik> it is possible. I have had strange issues with i386 and amd64 packages conflicting before.
[01:55] <yeik> wilee-nilee, yes, i normally use the update manager, sometimes i will use cli with apt-get
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> yeik, This is a early 12.04 install with that kernel being there, there have been stack updates with .2 and .3 I have the raring kernels in my 12.04.3, might be part of the problem, just a guess though.
[01:59] <yeik> wilee-nilee, i guess its possible. I could probably reinstall over it. just have to find a good copy of lts.
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> yeik, Most likely fixable, it is whether you want to due the time is all at least that's my view, or just install 12.04.3, and assume all will work.
[02:01] <yeik> wilee-nilee, I prefer fixing things when I can, finding the information sometimes can be pretty complex with the problems that I can't immediately fix.
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> yeik, For me this is a hobby, I'm not  an IT person, so I just know what I need to know and what I have learned spending way to much time here, and other places. ;)
[02:03] <nixnine> how do i get to an ubuntu room?
[02:03] <Guest89301> you are in one lol
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> nixnine, you are here
[02:03] <yeik> wilee-nilee, I understand. I am an IT person. Just not normally linux, its my personal OS of choice.
[02:03] <nixnine> yes, but this is for something specific?
[02:03] <Guest89301> hmm maybe im doing this wrong
[02:04] <Guest89301>  /nick is to change nick right
[02:04] <reisio> nixnine: /msg alis list *ubunt*foo*
[02:04] <nixnine> is there a way to convert an m4v?
[02:04] <bisi> type slash-msg NickServ help
[02:04] <reisio> nixnine: ffmpeg
[02:05] <nixnine> tried that but I get an error about gnome keyring
[02:05] <reisio> nixnine: when what, trying to install ffmpeg?
[02:05] <nixnine> when trying to convert at terminal
[02:06] <reisio> nixnine: what command did you run?
[02:06] <sudomilk> there we go
[02:06] <sudomilk> had to do /raw nick *nickname*
[02:07] <reisio> gj
[02:08] <nixnine> ffmpeg -i NFP1.m4v NFP1.mov
[02:08] <LiENUS> anyone here ever used mightytext (mightytext.net) with unity? i want to get notifications working...
[02:09] <nixnine> I get this: WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/nixnine/keyring-SLhJNd/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[02:09] <sudomilk> oh awesome, ubuntu installed grub automatically, that's nie
[02:09] <sudomilk> *nice
[02:10] <reisio> nixnine: I doubt that has anything to do with ffmpeg
[02:10] <reisio> nixnine: you sure the command failed?
[02:10] <nixnine> http://pastebin.com/ew8SLi8M
[02:10] <nixnine> try that
[02:10] <reisio> could be leftover from something else you ran in that term
[02:11] <reisio> nixnine: yeah looks unrelated
[02:11] <reisio> nixnine: what's the output of ffmpeg -i NFP1.m4v 2>&1
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> LiENUS, first link. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=mightytext+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1
[02:11] <nixnine> any idea?
[02:12] <nixnine> same thing
[02:15] <gdos> is it possible to use symbolic links (either hard or soft) to point from /var/www/doc (http://localhost/doc) to file://localhost/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html ...???
[02:17] <darkeyes> how to redirect traffic from my ISP router to my private IP, I have to do a port forward from the ISP router to my computer in order to connect remote desktop
[02:17] <reisio> gdos: ln -s /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html /var/www/whatever/doc
[02:17] <reisio> gdos: though dir to dir might be more sensible
[02:18] <gdos> reisio: is there a way to do it recursively?
[02:18] <reisio> gdos: hrmm? :p
[02:18] <reisio> gdos: how about ln -s /usr/share/doc /var/www/whatever/doc
[02:18] <zohan> morning
[02:18] <zohan> all
[02:19] <zohan> some body can help me?
[02:19] <sudomilk> whats your issue
[02:19] <darkeyes> how to redirect traffic from my ISP router to my private IP, I have to do a port forward from the ISP router to my computer in order to connect remote desktop
[02:19] <gdos> reisio: i installed dhelp and it point to file://localhost/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html instead of /var/www/doc and i was just wondering how to fix this?
[02:21] <zohan> how to upgrade kernel to 3.11.5 on ubuntu 12.04 LTS ? sudomilk
[02:21] <zohan> ?
[02:21] <darkeyes> ok someone help me
[02:21] <LiENUS> wilee-nilee, first link doesnt answer anything and is from 8 months ago...
[02:21] <SchrodingersScat> darkeyes: right, port forwarding, you could also try a reverse tunnel in ssh, you could set up a vpn and get all your systems on it
[02:21] <reisio> gdos: I think I just said
[02:22] <rickb> hello, ever since i upgraded my server to 13.04 alt arrow doesn't work to switch windows in irssi.. any idea how to restore this functionality?
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> LiENUS, I don't think there have been any poting to use it, 3rd party stuff anyway, technically not supported here.
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> porting*
[02:22] <rickb> using byobu as well
[02:22] <reisio> rickb: what does it do instead?
[02:22] <darkeyes> SchrodingersScat: So I cannot port forward
[02:22] <LiENUS> wilee-nilee, well theres a web browser notification api that afaik mightytext does use... the trick is getitng it to work with unity...
[02:23] <LiENUS> so there wouldnt be any porting it might be a browser addon or using a specific browser however
[02:23] <LiENUS> hence why i asked
[02:23] <rickb> reisio: instead it tries to do what F3 and F4 did, switching byobu session
[02:23] <rickb> s
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> zohan, Out of the repo kernels, are not supported here
[02:23] <rickb> F2 and F3*
[02:23] <reisio> rickb: right, so byobu has changed its configuration and taken over that key combination
[02:24] <reisio> rickb: you'd need to reconfigure byobu/your term
[02:24] <rickb> reisio: ah so if i unbind it it'll probably work
[02:24] <reisio> rickb: maybe
[02:24] <rickb> let me take a look at that conf
[02:24] <reisio> rickb: you can also use ESC+#, or /win # as a command
[02:24] <reisio> or if you run irssi in a term with only a single tab, that might work
[02:24] <archyme> darkeyes, do you have a static or dynamic ip?
[02:24] <darkeyes> archyme: a dynamic
[02:25] <vee_> hey guys quick question, every time i launch cinnamon, it says hardware acceleration is not available. this isa  minimal install and so the intel driver is new....what should i do?
[02:25] <reisio> vee_: what should you do to accomplish what?
[02:25] <gdos> reisio: it worked. sorta. it didn't appear to link everything.
[02:25] <rickb> reisio: i tried that, let me kill byobu and see if what i did works
[02:26] <archyme> darkeyes, if you didnt want to go with what schrodingersScat recommended you could use a dynamic dns service to accomplish what you want to do
[02:26] <vee_> reisio to get hardware acceleartion working.
[02:26] <brobriobri> hello, test
[02:27] <SchrodingersScat> brobriobri: received
[02:27] <SonikkuAmerica> brobriobri: pass
[02:27] <darkeyes> archyme: Allready try that but I couldn't, I was trying to use VNC server
[02:27] <brobriobri> Thanks
[02:27] <reisio> vee_: you'd probably have to launch muffin/mutter from a terminal to get useful output
[02:28] <fishcooker> how to restart xserver from remote command line?
[02:28] <reisio> fishcooker: something like sudo service lightdm restart, I think?
[02:28] <archyme> darkeyes, did you port forward on your router to the machine you want to remote to?
[02:28] <SonikkuAmerica> or sudo restart lightdm
[02:28] <nether> Hi there, I'm having an issue with getting i-bus to work in 13.10. Am I able to ask about that here?
[02:28] <fishcooker> no i don't have lightdm.. i've openbox here
[02:28] <sudomilk> restart after the service is the correct syntax - like apache service httpd restart
[02:28] <fishcooker> reisio:
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | nether
[02:29] <darkeyes> archyme: the thing is that I don't hace a router
[02:29] <nether> thanks wilee-nilee.
[02:29] <vee_> tried to launch mutter, and it says it failed to load the i965 driver...hm...
[02:29] <darkeyes> archyme: I have an external IP and  a private IP
[02:30] <reisio> fishcooker: do you use a DM?
[02:30] <fishcooker> no reisio
[02:30] <fishcooker> its costum box
[02:30] <reisio> fishcooker: how do you start X?
[02:31] <archyme> darkeyes, i have never not used a router so im not sure I can help you any furthur. im guessing your private ip is set by your modem and your modem cannot port forward correctly
[02:31] <rickb> btw removing the m-left from the fkeys.tmux config fixed it!
[02:32] <reisio> rickb: ah, tmux
[02:32] <reisio> rickb: gj
[02:32] <reisio> alt+# is pretty nice for irssi
[02:32] <reisio> but I use /win #
[02:32] <rickb> reisio: ya idk why they did that but commenting it fixed it all good
[02:32] <rickb> reisio: ya i have just used alt arrow for so many years i must have it lol
[02:32] <reisio> so I don't have to deal with that issue you just dealt with ever
[02:32] <fishcooker> startx
[02:32] <reisio> well, Ubuntu doesn't exactly focus on irssi users
[02:32] <reisio> particularly the desktop versions
[02:33] <rickb> yeah
[02:33] <reisio> fishcooker: okay, you'd just run that again
[02:33] <rickb> use terminal people are a dying breed
[02:33] <reisio> fishcooker: log out of openbox first, or killall X, then startx
[02:33] <reisio> rickb: I don't know :)
[02:33] <rickb> reisio: at least as far as how we're accomodated.
[02:33] <archyme> darkeyes, have you tried team viewer?
[02:33] <sudomilk> if you learn to write bash scripts, you can get paid a lot just for that
[02:33] <yeik> terminal users not really dying, people go back and forth it seems.
[02:33] <SchrodingersScat> You can get more done in terminal though, I'm starting to run out of tasks a human needs to do :(
[02:34] <darkeyes> archyme: just a questions, when you use a router, meaning that you have a physical router in your house or whatever place, does that means that the router's IP is directly connected to the internet
[02:34] <sudomilk> i have one  that fixes all file permissions on a web server with one line
[02:34] <sudomilk> its beautiful
[02:34]  * yeik nods at sudomilk 
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu is the king of gui and mint the queen, linux in general is cli orientated
[02:34] <yeik> sudomilk, you shouldn't have to fix any file permissions on a web server... someone had too much access.
[02:35] <SchrodingersScat> darkeyes: normally the router has the external IP and negotiates connections from the internal ip/lan
[02:35] <fishcooker> reisio: please look this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6234238/
[02:35] <sudomilk> but really though, if youre using terminal, i'd suggest checking out guake - it's my favorite so far
[02:35] <reisio> fishcooker: what about it?
[02:35] <sudomilk> yeik: you have to when you are an admin for other peoples things who don't know how suPHP works. They set things to 777 and then the page 403's out until you set dirs back to 755 and files back to 644
[02:36] <darkeyes> SchrodingersScat: does the router's IP changes
[02:36] <yeik> sudomilk, yes, but if you admin it properly, they wouldn't be able to do that right?
[02:37] <fishcooker> it seems there is no openbox process
[02:37] <fishcooker> but there is startx process
[02:37] <reisio> fishcooker: 'X' is the process you would want to kill
[02:37] <reisio> fishcooker: if you can't just log out of openbox
[02:37] <reisio> pgrep -l X
[02:37] <SchrodingersScat> darkeyes: it can, that depends on the ISP mostly.
[02:37] <sudomilk> yeik, thus is the price of allowing people to use jailed shell access
[02:38] <sudomilk> but its an easy enough fix
[02:38] <yeik> sudomilk, I don't admin linux boxes much, windows mostly. I see many problems with all sorts of programs and os versions from people making changes they shouldn't
[02:38] <sudomilk> oh man, windows/iis is a nightmare for me. you are a hardy person indeed
[02:38] <yeik> so, is anybody here really good with package manager, and troubleshooting issues?
[02:38] <darkeyes> SchrodingersScat: and what do I need to get a router, because the only thing ISP provide me is the modem
[02:38] <archyme> darkeyes, with a router you can use port forwarding to get to a specific port on a specific machine, something you cannot do with a modem.
[02:39] <SchrodingersScat> darkeyes: if you only have a modem, wouldn't all your ports be open right now?
[02:41] <darkeyes> SchrodingersScat: well what I donnot understand is how to redirect from the external IP to my private IP
[02:41] <jeffrey_f> SchrodingersScat: Most ISP's provide a router/modem.  Do you mean a WIRELESS router?
[02:41] <joshAnderson99> hi, any pointers as to how one might resolve a video driver problem (for ATI HD 5450)?  no mint driver for card apparently, and propietary driver says "card not supported" oddly.
[02:42] <SonikkuAmerica> !fglrx
[02:42] <daftykins> joshAnderson99: mint?
[02:42] <jeffrey_f> SchrodingersScat: If there are 4  LAN ports, it is an all in one router/modem
[02:42] <SonikkuAmerica> !mint
[02:42] <SchrodingersScat> darkeyes: normally with port-forwarding, but it seemed like you said that wasn't an option.
[02:42] <joshAnderson99> yeah, just came from the mint channel on spotchat, but no comment there. and believe ubuntu is quite similar. but very new to linux.
[02:42] <fishcooker> i can see your point thankyou reisio
[02:43] <fishcooker> it works
[02:43] <joshAnderson99> thanks ubottu, will have a look.  amazing, trying all the ATI catalyst packages, and they just dont recognise the card.
[02:43] <daftykins> darkeyes: if you have a modem only, the computer you have connected to it would be getting the internet-facing IP address.
[02:44] <darkeyes> SchrodingersScat: yes because there is no way to forward to my computer, since that that external IP is used by many other user
[02:44] <darkeyes> daftykins: but when  check my ip on whatismyip.com it seems to be an external one
[02:45] <econdudeawesome> howdy! Is there a command or way I can autokill a bash command after, say, 30 minutes? I'm running 30 ipython instances in parallel, and about 10% get hung (and I just want to autokill those)
[02:45] <SchrodingersScat> darkeyes: then you're still limited to the options of a reverse ssh tunnel, vpn, etc.
[02:45] <daftykins> darkeyes: what IP do you have internally?
[02:45] <darkeyes> daftykins: 10.135.134.118
[02:46] <joshAnderson99> do the ubuntu video drivers work on mint?
[02:46] <darkeyes> SchrodingersScat: so the only thing that I can do is get a router from the ISP
[02:47] <econdudeawesome> ah, the timeout gnu coreutil is precisely what I'm looking for
[02:47] <SchrodingersScat> darkeyes: that's not what I'm saying, simply adding a router to your connection wouldn't help you much, you'd be splitting your already limited connection.  Unless direct access is something the ISP also offers.
[02:48] <darkeyes> SchrodingersScat: Ok so that's the word, direct access,
[02:48] <somsip> !mint | joshAnderson99
[02:48] <LiENUS> trying to set empathy up with my facebook account, i add the account everything seems to go well then all of a sudden i see that  it can no longer access my online account
[02:49] <sudomilk> econdudeaweosome,: you could probably set up a cron job to kill the process after it runs for so long, but i wouldn't be much help in the scripting of it
[02:49] <sudomilk> econdudeawesome, rather
[02:49] <joshAnderson99> ok, ta
[02:50] <LiENUS> empathy says "facebook account requires authorization"
[02:50] <joshAnderson99> before i go, is ubuntu better than mint?
[02:50] <joshAnderson99> totally new to linux, from windows
[02:50] <LiENUS> joshAnderson99, is chocolate better than vanilla?
[02:50] <jeffrey_f> 2 line script needed in rsync: Need to sync (new and changed) one folder between my computer and a portable drive.  I want new and changed, but no deletes.
[02:51] <daftykins> mmm chocolate
[02:51] <joshAnderson99> is mint better than lemongrass?  point taken.
[02:51] <darkeyes> SchrodingersScat: One last thing, so I could try asking to my ISP  for a direct access?
[02:51] <somsip> joshAnderson99: you will probably get easier support for ubuntu. I understand mint offers some different desktops that ubuntu doesn't. Other than that, try both and make your own mind up
[02:51] <LiENUS> joshAnderson99, chocolate makes me physically ill, though i like to eat a little from time to time, yet i've known many girls who would scarf down a whole pint of chocolate ice cream before they'd even look at vanilla
[02:52] <LiENUS> the best thing for you to do is try both
[02:52] <SchrodingersScat> darkeyes: it's worth a shot to ask if you can get a public IP with a router you can control.  I don't know your isp though.  otherwise, set up a vpn and it'll be like you're on your local network.
[02:52] <reisio> joshAnderson99: hard to get lemon grass 'round here
[02:52] <joshAnderson99> so far the activity here, just the numbers, are ahead of those at mint chat.. but maybe can whip up some interest there.  free beers maybe.
[02:52] <SchrodingersScat> joshAnderson99: http://freebeer.org/blog/
[02:53] <joshAnderson99> yeah, and with virtual box it's surprisingly painless to create new installs.  might do that. notice that google uses ubuntu.
[02:53] <reisio> joshAnderson99: you talking about mint chat on freenode?
[02:53] <darkeyes> SchrodingersScat: Ok thanks for the help
[02:53] <reisio> google uses lots of things
[02:55] <LiENUS> rofl i said that, decided i wanted a vanilla latte and went to make it, put my milk pitcher in the fridge to chill it and realized i have several jars of home made dulce de leche sitting there waiting for me, i guess i'm in a slackware mood tonight
[02:55] <joshAnderson99> SchrodingersScat: ideal, and i'm sure that would do the trick.
[02:56] <reisio> LiENUS: if only we could put all the nutrients a body needs into a coffee
[02:56] <joshAnderson99> reisio: not windows though apprently, or much, so seem to be in the right direction attempting to run linux, if only not this hardware issue. anyway, i should see if there's any comment in the appropriate mint section. thanks.
[02:57] <yeik> i am having a problem with updates - http://pastebin.com/X7KW8v7w anybody very good with dpkg and apt-get
[02:59] <amir_> Hello
[03:00] <Guest46541> hello
[03:01] <reisio> 'lo
[03:01] <reisio> joshskidmore: yeah I shouldn't think they use Windows for much in the realm of servers
[03:02] <reisio> joshskidmore: the official mint chat isn't on this network, is why I mentioned it
[03:03] <Learn2swim13> Anyone familiar with RTMPDUMP and scripts on linux< i have a windows  script i cant seem to modify and run on linux.
[03:04] <reisio> Learn2swim13: might talk to #mplayer
[03:05] <Learn2swim13> Is that a person or another channel?
[03:05] <reisio> the latter
[03:05] <Learn2swim13> then how will that help me? if idk who or what your talking about
[03:05] <reisio> Learn2swim13: because I know what you are talking about :)
[03:06] <reisio> so it was smart of you to ask in my presence
[03:06] <Learn2swim13> Um ok.
[03:06] <Learn2swim13> i still dont see how telling me ot talk to #mplayer is helpful
[03:07] <EchoDev> Learn2swim13 talk to #mplayer
[03:07] <sudomilk> he is saying try a channel that might be of more help than typical ubuntu support
[03:08] <Learn2swim13> well people use mplayer to watch rtmpdump streams, my script has nothing to do with mplayer or watching atreams through a player
[03:10] <reisio> Learn2swim13: if it uses rtmpdump, it has something to do with mplayer
[03:10] <cfhowlett> !mplayer
[03:10] <reisio> it might be your problem is only to do with the script itself, in which case #bash might be more approriate, but I'm sure #mplayer can work that out, too
[03:10] <Learn2swim13> not really
[03:10] <reisio> yes really :p
[03:11] <Learn2swim13> my script is for downloading multiple streams to my hardrive. has nothing to do with mplayer
[03:11] <reisio> Learn2swim13: if it uses rtmpdump, it has something to do with mplayer
[03:13] <Learn2swim13> mmk.
[03:15] <gdos> add "FollowSymLinks" as an option for your DocumentRoot
[03:15] <gdos> ered, how do i add "FollowSymLinks" as an option for my DocumentRoot under apache2?
[03:16] <reisio> gdos: ask #httpd
[03:17] <gdos> ok, thanks, reisio
[03:19] <SchrodingersScat> Learn2swim13: there's an #rtmpdump, last i checked
[03:19] <Learn2swim13> ill try that i guess
[03:21] <Learn2swim13> #rtmpdump = Dead Room
[03:24] <gdos> reisio - it worked but not all links linked and the images on the webpages are only showing empty boxes, suggestions?
[03:26] <reisio> gdos: let's start over
[03:26] <reisio> gdos: you installed something?
[03:26] <gdos> yes. dhelp.
[03:27] <gdos> when run from the command line it opens up the following link which does not work: http://localhost/doc/HTML/index.html (instead the files are located in /usr/share/doc/HTML)
[03:27] <gdos> i'm thinking its more an issue with the dhelp installation.
[03:28] <gdos> i just un-installed (purged) and re-installed dhelp. same issues.
[03:29] <reisio> gdos: what do you run, exactly
[03:29] <reisio> 'dhelp'?
[03:30] <gdos> debian help browser
[03:30] <reisio> what command
[03:31] <gdos> to run it? dhelp. to install it? sudo apt-get install dhelp
[03:31] <reisio> what about file:///usr/share/doc/HTML/ ?
[03:32] <gdos> that's fine. i can open that manually. but when i type dhelp from the command line, opens up my default browser and attempts to load http://localhost/doc/HTML/index.html
[03:32] <reisio> mmm, that does sound like a bug
[03:34] <gdos> the description in synaptic tells me if its not found under http://localhost/doc/HTML/index.html it will be found under /usr/share/doc/HTML which is annoying.
[03:35] <reisio> sounds like it's a low priority, then
[03:36] <gdos> bummer. i thought maybe by creating symbolic links from /usr/share/doc to /var/www/dhelp might've worked. it did. sorta.
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> hmm. sounds like he needs to enable the followsymlinks then have a link in his /var/www  pointing doc to /usr/share/doc  ?
[03:37] <reisio> if he's even got apache installed and running
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> yep. that would be needed.
[03:37] <gdos> reisio: i do.
[03:38] <gdos> i used the following command you gave me: ln -s /usr/share/doc /var/www/something/doc
[03:38] <donavan01> how can I find out if sound card with  CMI8738 chipset is supportedIm thinking about buy one on ebay for 16$ but I want to make sure its supported
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> donavan01:  google for the chipset and 'linux support' and see perhaps?  personally id check on amazon or some other store that has user reviews  for the same card and see if anyone mentions linux support for the card in question also.
[03:40] <donavan01> thanks dr_willis ... that was going to be what I tried but I wondered if there was a database that had that sort of thing on it
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  im not sure you would want /var/www/somthing   just /var/www/doc pointing to  /usr/share/doc
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> !hcl
[03:44] <pradosi> #backtrack
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[03:46] <`Fibz`> there is a broken link in an ubuntu wiki page i am trying to correct. when i click login, i am directed to the ubuntu-wiki homepage. when i navigate back to the page i want to edit, i have to click login again and start over in an endless loop.
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> `Fibz`:  i think theres a ubuntu-docs channel or ubuntu-wiki channel.   could be part of the changes they had to make a  month or so ago when the forums had a security breach.
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> !alis
[03:47] <jrib> `Fibz`: make sure you aren't blocking cookies?
[03:48] <jrib> `Fibz`: are you actually logging in at some point?
[03:48] <`Fibz`> yes
[04:14] <gdos> Dr_Willis & reisio: got it working. completely. at least for my system. i 'ln -s /usr/share/doc /var/www' and it works as it should. since this server won't see the light of day on the web i'm not too concerned about the particulars. but it works.
[04:15] <reisio> gj
[04:16] <BlueProtoman> When I plug in a flash drive, a Nautilus window with its contents appears.  How can I disable this?
[04:17] <reisio> BlueProtoman: kwazang! http://www.google.com/search?q=disable%20nautilus%20auto%20mount%20pop%20up
[04:18] <BlueProtoman> reisio: Ah, thank you.
[04:18] <reisio> np homie, dude man, home fry, home slice, amigo
[04:21] <`Fibz`> i installed kde-plasma-standard and now when the main user logs into a KDE Plasma session, nautilus opens @ the home folder (nothing in the application auto-start) any ideas?
[04:22] <tigz4god> is there a way to make irssi auto log into this chat when i open it
[04:23] <reisio> yup
[04:23] <reisio> tigz4god: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup#c3
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> wow - it got quiet...
[04:50] <AdBlocker_> Thanks Dr_Willis: You broke the silence -_-
[04:50] <AdBlocker_> 1, 2, 3 QUIET MOUSE!
[04:50] <reisio> mousse
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> thought i was lagged. :)  thats been hapening on my cellphone lately on freenode. end up just lagging for 10+ min. ;)
[04:50]  * AdBlocker_ sighs
[04:50] <fishcooker> im on the max display resolution, but still the display is not sharp.. here is my hardware http://paste.ubuntu.com/6234522/
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> fishcooker:  using hdmi video?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> sharpest desktop images would be if you where using the native monitor res. not the max res.
[05:01] <fishcooker> this box' monitor integrated with the cpu in one box.. how to know, Dr_Willis?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> fishcooker:  i recall the xandr tool can givve out wht the res is of the device
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> or i may be thinking of xvidtune
[05:07] <fishcooker> my xrandr between 800x600 - 1024x768
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> so what res are you using?
[05:08] <fishcooker> if i look this file http://paste.ubuntu.com/6234557/ this intel vga card  there is no information
[05:09] <fishcooker> i mean to install its vga driver from intel Dr_Willis
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> intel has that 01.org site for tools for installing their latest drivers. (ive never used it) theres also some ppa's out with newer versions i recall.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> but the res of the lcd screen wouldbe a feature of the screen, not normally a limit of the video card.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> except for  the old days :) when we had puny little cards.
[05:10] <fishcooker> this is touch screen monitor Dr_Willis
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> wouldent happen to have a 'HD' or "1080" or "720" sticker on it somewhere?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> You could alwys hit up google for system specs.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Id think it would be a weird monitor these days thats not at least 720p  (unless its a netbook or somthing weird)
[05:13] <fishcooker> yes this weird box come from shenzhen :-) .. from what information i can get more info abt this hardware... dmesg info or lshw.. which section?
[05:13] <tigz4god> is there a command to auto change nickname on servers
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> tigz4god:  most irc clients are scriptable. and can do all sorts of things.  many can have difernt settings for diffefnt irc networks.
[05:14] <balajics> I am using ubuntu 12.10. My system gets hanged/freezed once or twice in a day. Sysrq also not working during freeze. How to find cause for this? Can I check any logs?
[05:14] <tigz4god> thanks Dr.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> balajics:  ssh in, monitor log files in real time. see what they say when it hangs - perhaps.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> of course if you discover its just X freeinz - that would point to a video driver issue, or other video/X issue
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> !info hwinfo | fishcooker
[05:18] <balajics> @Dr_Willis Thank you, I will do ssh and check about it. I have a doubt, If it is related to video driver, I hope sysrq will work, right? or Am I missing something?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> if its only doing it rarely. its hard to say whats goin on with it. Unless you notice any other patterns
[05:20] <balajics> @Dr_Willis hmm ok Thank you :)
[05:23] <randomusr_> What's the path I should use to install user specific applications?
[05:23] <buu> Hey, I'm trying to compile something using the standard ./Configure; make; fun times but its producing dynamic executables, anyone have an idea how to get it to produce static ones?
[05:23] <randomusr_> and subsequently, apps for all users?
[05:24] <jmgk> hi
[05:27] <tigz4god> guys
[05:27] <tigz4god> i think i love you all
[05:28]  * cfhowlett_ ... blushes furiously ...
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> buu:  i belive you need to give ./configure extra options. but ive never really wanted to make static binaries befor.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> they just get to huge. ;)
[05:32] <buu> Dr_Willis: Found it =]
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> i need to learn to cross compile for my raspberry pi someday
[05:33] <jmgk> Dr_Willis: Do you sing the ubuntu song
[05:33] <jmgk> :)
[05:36]  * Dr_Willis jams to Kenny G.
[05:36]  * cfhowlett_ didn't know we HAD an ubuntu song!
[05:37] <hp_>  as a newbie linux user .. what are the best online educational resources to learn from?  books,articles or videos   ty
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> I tend to look at what gets the most votes/hits on delicious.com - but i havent looked there for ages.
[05:38] <xtriz> i just got the source packaged of vlc , how can i compile it ?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> why do you want to? ;)
[05:39] <jmgk> who's Kenny G Dr_Willis
[05:39] <jmgk> ?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  Blasphmy! ;)
[05:39] <cfhowlett_> !compile|xtriz,
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  sudo apt-get build-dep vlc          should pull in all needed dependencies to compile somthing. then its a matter of compileig the source acording to the directions the developers provide
[05:40] <cfhowlett_> jmgk, he's a guy I went to school with who, inexplicably, became world-famous for polite-company inoffensive "jazz" music.
[05:41] <jmgk> oh
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Jamms to with the Saxaphone. ;)
[05:41] <jmgk> wow
[05:41] <jmgk> You went to school with Kenny G
[05:41] <jmgk> Do you talk to him?
[05:41] <cfhowlett_> jmgk, true
[05:41] <cfhowlett_> jmgk, played in the school band with him
[05:41] <jmgk> wow
[05:42] <cfhowlett_> me remembers annnnnnnnnnd we're off-topic
[05:42] <jmgk> He was on Foster the people song I was listening too
[05:42] <jmgk> lol
[05:42] <cfhowlett_> ot is offtopic
[05:42] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic
[05:42] <xtriz> cfhowlett_, and Dr_Willis ok :)
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  there are normally PPA's with newer reelases of vlc i belive.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  it can be quiet a bear to compile i recall.
[05:44] <Ari-Yang> xtriz: I recommend mplayer or any of its forks over VLC...
[05:44] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, cool, let me try to compile if something goes bad, than will get the ppa, this is my first compile .
[05:45] <xtriz> Ari-Yang, mpalyer let me check it out.
[05:45] <Ari-Yang> xtriz: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build this player... there are instructions on how to install it on ubuntu at the bottom of the page
[05:45] <hp_>  as a newbie linux user .. what are the best online educational resources to learn from?  books,articles or videos   ty
[05:46] <xtriz> Ari-Yang, nice
[05:46] <cfhowlett_> !manual|hp_,  and "learn from" is too imprecise.  We learn by doing.  Choose a project.  Research and do it.
[05:53] <Ari-Yang> [01:46:10] <xtriz> Ari-Yang, nice ---> what? you like it?
[05:53] <Ari-Yang> mpv?
[05:54] <xtriz> Ari-Yang, this whole thing looks nice
[05:54] <Ari-Yang> xtriz: so you're going to install it?
[05:54] <xtriz> yeah giving a try
[05:55] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i could find an interrestning thing
[05:55] <XATRIX> I opened my terminal + htop
[05:55] <ionutica-99> yes what interessting thing
[05:55] <XATRIX> And mark the CPU load
[05:55] <Ari-Yang> xtriz: okay, you launch it with terminal. or you can make a .desktop file and have it do it for you
[05:55] <XATRIX> Then i quickly move my mouse around my desktop...
[05:56] <XATRIX> CPU load rised up to 30%
[05:56] <XATRIX> Idle CPU load was over ~5-7 %
[05:56] <XATRIX> Do we have software cursor or what the hell is it ?
[05:56] <XATRIX> Mouse pointer causes CPU load ?
[05:56] <xtriz> Ari-Yang, ok , reading out the instructions right now.
[05:56] <Ari-Yang> nice~
[05:56] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[05:56] <Ari-Yang> going afk
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> everything causes cpu load. ;) unless the gpu is handleing it.
[05:57] <Ari-Yang> xtriz: if you want user support join #mpv-player
[05:57] <xtriz> Ari-Yang, thanks :)
[05:57] <Ari-Yang> though it might be dead at this time...
[05:57] <Ari-Yang> you're welcome~
[05:57] <xtriz> :)
[05:57] <XATRIX> I have Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller
[05:57] <XATRIX> Yes, it's crap. But!!!
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> XATRIX:  you got a netbook?
[05:58] <XATRIX> Sure
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> been using xubuntu on my EEEpc lately. seems to work very well
[05:59] <XATRIX> There's X /usr/lib/X :0 -core ... process running
[05:59] <Abator>  hi, some predefined rules are shown under gufw but those are are not shown with ufw status numbered. can someone tell me difference?
[05:59] <XATRIX> actually it doesn't provide me any complexities. but it unusual
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> conky dosent show my cpu load changeing at all when i mouse about
[06:02] <Abator> my question is about firewall if someone can answer
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> if anyone knows they will answer normally.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> I dont use the firewall stuff.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> XATRIX:  i cant repeate your test case. Htop dosent seem to care about my mouse moveing about
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> XATRIX: but i am useign xubuntu, not unity/compiz
[06:05] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, when i am removing a package how can i remove it such that all it's dependecies also get removed ?
[06:05] <md70> audio is working in headphone mode only .. how to force external speakers to work?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive really notced a command to do that. because its very likely other packages may also depend on parts of it. if you remove stuff and some things are no longer needed 'sudo apt-get autoremove' will clean them out
[06:06] <kingnick42> Abator, what was your question?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> apt will tell you if theres packages tht can be auto-removed
[06:06] <xtriz> md70, check alsamixer  whether the sound  is mute or not
[06:06] <Abator> Dr_Willis: i am sure a lot of apps silently make connecion to their servers and some download updated regularly , that is i think a not good for my limited internet bandwidth
[06:06] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, simply i have to do apt-get remove name_of_software ?
[06:07] <xtriz> Abator, they never download automatically they just notify you, and sometime you can manage the behaviour through settings.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Abator:  Hmm..  what apps?   i rarely see linux aps that   connect back to their home base to notify the user of updates.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> I can only think of a few.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  thats all i normally do.
[06:07] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, ok
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> i noticed the owncloud client told me theres a newer version at the owncloud homepage. and thats about ll ive seen notify me of newer versions in ages.
[06:08] <tcatsunent> How viable is it to have a hybrid network running linux servers while keeping windows for the end users
[06:08] <tcatsunent>  i would really like the stability and reliability that linux can provide. But our company does use exchange, AD, financial
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> tcatsunent:  id think thats rather common.
[06:08] <tcatsunent>                     software, among others that need to be run on windows
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> I know chrysler has linux servers, and windows machines on the floor of the factories
[06:09] <Abator> there are many kings on Tab... thanks for asking. i see few rules when i use gufw but when i use the ufw status numbered command then i see no rule defined. look like there are 2 firewlls on my mint. i was in the impression that same list of rules will be shown both ways
[06:10] <tcatsunent> I'm not sure I could convince my company to switch anyways but I have read that it ultimately saves companies a lot of money as well
[06:10] <tcatsunent> Makes sense of course, linux vs windows
[06:11] <tcatsunent> The main problem I would see is the AD Exchange server
[06:11] <tcatsunent> Has anyone here done this?
[06:11] <Abator> you are may be right. i installed mint yesterday and i was using win7 before.
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> mint isent ubuntu, has its own support channels. and we really dont know what all mint does. ;)
[06:12] <xmetal> true but like i said many of the issues one of the two OS's has, i think the other does too
[06:12] <Abator> i thought mint was based on ubuntu
[06:12] <xmetal> * Think being the keyword
[06:12] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Abator
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> its based on ubuntu.. dosent mean its supported here.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu is based on debian. :) but dont ask for ubuntu support in #debian
[06:13] <Sauvin> I've heard there's also a directly Debian-based Mint, but I've never seen it.
[06:13] <xmetal> i ask for Linux (general) support in #Windows
[06:13] <xmetal> :P
[06:13] <Abator> oh, but gufw and ufw are from ubuntu
[06:13] <xmetal> j/k
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> and they use iptables as the backend.
[06:14] <Abator> hmmm, okay
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> sudo iptables --list   should show all rules
[06:14] <Abator> ah there is the good thing you told now\
[06:14] <tcatsunent> Would I have to have a windows server for the exchange and AD or is there another option?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> !firewall
[06:16] <Abator> ubottu: thanks for the links
[06:16] <Abator> wow
[06:17] <reisio> tcatsunent: that depends on if you want an actual alternative, or a 3rd party implementation of something Microsoft controls
[06:17] <reisio> the former is a reasonable pursuit, the latter is not, whether it exists or not
[06:17] <penguinman> Abator, yeah, didn't you know canonical was doing AI research?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> ubottu is actually skynet .0001
[06:18] <Abator> AI research?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> sure youre not..... sure....
[06:19] <Abator> penguinman: what is AI research?
[06:19] <reisio> Abator: artificial intelligence?
[06:19] <penguinman> Abator, never mind. was a joke.
[06:19] <Abator> :)
[06:19]  * xmetal runs out of room through door (not opening it first) screaming at the roombot being Skynet
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  too late..  its allready in your head.
[06:20] <Abator> wow
[06:24] <sujx> During ubuntu startup, can I  hide the menu, and only show the background image?
[06:24] <reisio> sujx: which menu?
[06:25] <sujx> grub2 boot menu
[06:25] <penguinman> it should hide automatically unless you're dual booting
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> its best to keep the grub menu where you can see it. :) not like you see it for a long time
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> and you can set it to only show for a second or 2
[06:27] <xmetal> or you add kernels
[06:27] <penguinman> or if you REALLY want to hide it you can set the timeout to 0
[06:27] <reisio> why're you rebooting anyways :p
[06:27] <penguinman> maybe he has a laptop?
[06:27] <reisio> it's the 21st century
[06:28] <reisio> penguinman: even more of a reason to not reboot
[06:28] <reisio> they come with batteries, even
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> even my netbook boots to the desktop in like.  30 sec. ;)
[06:28] <reisio> even?
[06:28] <reisio> netbooks should boot faster
[06:28] <sujx> if i set the timeout=0 , it will not show my background image
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> ssd desktop boots in like 15 ;)
[06:28] <penguinman> reisio, meh, mine still won't suspend properly. also I use full disk encryption so it's a security thing with me.
[06:28] <reisio> 15, sheesh
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> sujx:  why does it really matter if you see anything at boot time?
[06:29] <reisio> penguinman: how is it a security thing?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> its handy to have easy access to the grub menu  when things go wrongly
[06:29] <penguinman> so someone just coming along has to enter the password to decrypt the drive as well as the login password.
[06:30] <reisio> penguinman: oh you mean being powered off is
[06:30] <Abator> Sauvin: there is debian mint that i did not download t make boootable usb
[06:30] <penguinman> reisio, yup
[06:30] <reisio> penguinman: that's not much more defense, but eh
[06:30] <penguinman> it is if someone nicks my laptop :)
[06:31]  * Dr_Willis ties his laptop around the neck of his attack pomerianian.
[06:31] <reisio> penguinman: it isn't though
[06:31] <sujx> my boss does not like the purple scree when ubuntu startup
[06:31] <reisio> besides, serious data thieves aren't silly enough to steal hardware when they can just get the data
[06:31] <penguinman> sujx, you can turn it off and just get the text output
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> !text | sujx
[06:32] <Abator> why ubuntu is all orange color?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Abator:  it used to be all 'brownish' for a 'natural/earthy' look
[06:32] <penguinman> Abator, it used to be a lot more orange than it is now. Tradition I guess
[06:33] <sujx> thank you~~~
[06:33] <Abator> yeh, old ubuntu was brown. i di dnot like orange thats why got mint but really im new to linux
[06:33] <cfhowlett_> Abator, things change ...
[06:34] <penguinman> Abator, you can also change the theme pretty easily these days.
[06:34] <reisio> orange + purple = still brown
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> its trival to change the colors. :)
[06:35] <Abator> penguinman: i thought color had special meanings but forgot that old was brown
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> The panel sort of auto-changes color based on your wallpaper also
[06:35] <penguinman> reisio, yeah, a good blueish or gray theme would be nice. plus the default terminal colors are horid.
[06:35] <Abator> oh, thats nice thing
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> I alwyas use terminator ;)
[06:36] <Abator> wow
[06:36] <jmgk> Dr_Willis: what are your views on Ubuntu phone
[06:36] <jmgk> ?
[06:36] <jmgk> :P
[06:36] <jmgk> I like the concept
[06:36] <reisio> penguinman: so change'm
[06:36] <penguinman> Abator, you might want to check out gnome-look.org. a lot of good gtk themes on there. Elementary, Flat Studio, and Boje are some of my favorites.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  i will belive it when i see it comeing from fedex and in my little hands...
[06:37] <jmgk> ah
[06:37] <penguinman> reisio, first thing I usually do on a fresh install
[06:37] <jmgk> hehe
[06:37] <reisio> penguinman: like
[06:37] <reisio> penguinman: a baws
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Abator:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites have some ppa's with the 'top themes' also
[06:37] <penguinman> reisio, then again, I am running gnome 3.10 these days, so not a huge deal anymore.
[06:41] <helmut_> hi
[06:41] <jmgk> Greetings helgikrs
[06:41] <jmgk> erm
[06:41] <jmgk> helmut_:
[06:44] <penguinman> also, does anyone in here have experience getting suspend to work on laptops with radeon cards?
[06:44] <Abator> im not sure but i think ubuntu is on tablets also. those tablets are available in market?
[06:45] <penguinman> Abator, not preinstalled, but you can put ubuntu touch on some commercially available ones
[06:45] <Abator> like ipad?
[06:45] <reisio> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[06:45] <reisio> you can probably find preinstalled, too
[06:46] <Abator> penguinman: i can install ubuntu on ipad or it will go on android based tablets only?
[06:46] <penguinman> Abator, i doubt you can put it on ipads since their bootloaders are locked down like fort knox, but I know you can on nexus tablets.
[06:46] <penguinman> Abator, probably kindles as well but don't quote me on that.
[06:47] <Abator> mutitasking is really nice thing to experience
[06:47] <reisio> Abator: most tablets, regardless of what OS comes on them, have secure boot issues
[06:47] <reisio> not all of them, however
[06:47] <reisio> ironically one of the tablets easiest to install GNU/Linux on would be Microsoft's Surface Pro
[06:47] <penguinman> reisio, probably could even put desktop ubuntu on an x86 tablet. I know there's a couple out there.
[06:48] <Abator> yes, there are certainly issues with compatibility
[06:48] <reisio> well, yes, desktop doesn't mean "on a desk" any more
[06:48] <reisio> it means "not a server or 'workstation'"
[06:48] <reisio> which is most situations
[06:49] <penguinman> meh, I still prefer netbooks to tablets anyway. I like having an actual keyboard.
[06:49] <Abator> ohh
[06:49] <reisio> you can connect a keyboard to most tablets
[06:49] <reisio> a lot even come with keyboards that detach
[06:49] <Abator> i go completely opposite way
[06:49] <reisio> or offer an optional keyboard
[06:50]  * gordonjcp has a tablet case with a rubber key Spectrum-like keyboard
[06:50] <Abator> i like no specific place to sit and a flex keyboard in my pocket
[06:50] <penguinman> reisio, almost read that as optical keyboard.
[06:50] <gordonjcp> I'd like a laptop in the same sort of form factor as the 25-year-old Toshiba T1100 I use at work
[06:50] <gordonjcp> with a big clicky keyboard with full-size keys
[06:50] <Abator> :)
[06:51] <penguinman> i've been considering getting one of the samsung chromebooks recently. I know for a fact you can put actual linux on those.
[06:52] <penguinman> either that or a pi rigged to a phone docking station.
[06:52] <adeligen> penguinman: Those are really nice for the price
[06:53] <Abator> in fact im trying to setup linux and ipad work togather like i was using win7 the same way
[06:53] <penguinman> adeligen, especially with the ssd they have installed.
[06:53] <Abator> i was using teamviewer on ad hoc wifi\
[06:54] <Abator> skype, teamviewer like apps are risky thats why i want firewall fixed first
[06:55] <penguinman> would also be nice to not have to lug around a $1k portable desktop anytime I go somewhere.
[06:55] <Abator> i want to use ipad to control my linux
[06:56] <Abator> ubuntu or mint is no big difference because im going to develop app for android
[06:57] <reisio> make a webUI
[06:57] <reisio> done
[06:57] <penguinman> Abator, true. same backend for all intents and purposes.
[06:57] <XATRIX> Dr_Willis: i'm using XFCE without any compiz/whatever else. But my processor goes up when i move my mouse
[06:57] <reisio> should it go down
[06:59] <Abator> thanks for the theme links. i will check those in free time.
[07:00] <Moseco> Im running Ubuntu 13.04 on 1 drive adn windows 8.1 on another drive. (installed ubuntu then windows). When i run boot repair then boot into grub and try to select windows it says file not found. Anyone know how to fix this?
[07:01] <penguinman> Moseco, try booting into ubuntu and running update-grub
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, you save the bootinfo summary from the boot repair?
[07:02] <Rory> Why does it often take a few minutes, or a reboot, for newly installed applications to become searchable in Unity's dash? [13.04]
[07:02] <reisio> Rory: probably only takes a logout & in :)
[07:02] <penguinman> Rory, it has to rebuild the cache.
[07:03] <reisio> you could probably just end the process of the dash and restart it
[07:03] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6225189/
[07:03] <pranav> i used to use foxit reader in windows, it was very efficient in terms of searching texts from even scanned documents. now, document viewer is very poor. please suggest an alternative which can assist me in this in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[07:04] <reisio> pranav: how's it poor?
[07:04] <pranav> reisio: didn't i tell already. it wont even search words from a well scanned documents.
[07:04] <reisio> pranav: you could use foxit via Wine if you wanted
[07:04] <Moseco> penguinman: what will this do exactly?
[07:04] <reisio> pranav: sure it will
[07:04] <reisio> I find words via evince all the time
[07:05] <pranav> yup.. it is lightweight thats it.
[07:05] <reisio> hrmm?
[07:07] <penguinman> Moseco, will search for bootable partitions and update grub accordingly
[07:07] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: i undid the boot-reapir after it didnt work to boot into windows (restore mbr in boot repair). Thought id add that if its needed info
[07:07] <Moseco> penguinman: dpes boot-reapir not do this on its own, or does it only insert itself into windows boot manager?
[07:08] <xtriz> i am about to buy a static ip from my service provider, should i buy serivces from no-ip, dyndns or i should get the static ip ? the cost is almost the same.
[07:08] <penguinman> Moseco, actually, grub doesn't do anything with the windows bootloader except chainload into it.
[07:08] <Moseco> penguinman: okay, thanks, ill try it
[07:09] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, I'm not real up on uefi, however you have gpt on sda and sdb but sdc where ubuntu is msdos and the bootloader is in the mbr of sdc, not sure really, whem all are gpt the ubuntu bootloader goes in a boot partition, the bios is different with these gpt released computers
[07:09] <reisio> xtriz: the only reason you'd need a static ip is for ssl
[07:09] <wilee-nilee> when+
[07:09] <penguinman> Moseco, worst case you can edit grub.conf manually and point it at the windows partition.
[07:09] <Rory> penguinman: Is there a way to get apt to do this automatically after install? Or a reason it was decided not to do this?
[07:09] <xtriz> reisio, i want to run file server such that i can access it from my college.
[07:10] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, as suggested a update-grub is worth a try, but I see kernel updates in the script so it should be in the boot menu already.
[07:11] <reisio> xtriz: dyndns or no-ip should cover that
[07:11] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: Okay, ill try the update-grub and see if it works, if not ill do some googling for the problem. Thanks!
[07:11] <reisio> xtriz: or any free service
[07:11] <penguinman> Rory, the way the dash works from what I can tell is it searches for .desktop files and updates it's cache every so often. One way you can force it to recoignize it is to install from the software center or the dash itself.
[07:12] <Rory> penguinman: Ahh, OK I'll use Software Centre in future if that's an option. Thanks. Do you know if using software centre to install a .deb (as opposed to dpkg -i) will also update the cache?
[07:13] <geektech713> ya
[07:13] <DzAirmaX> hey all
[07:13] <reisio> like I said, you can probably just log out & back in, or kill & restart the process of the dash
[07:13] <penguinman> i imagine it would. when I was still using unity I'd always install from the applications lens directly.
[07:13] <geektech713> can install any .deb program on ubuntu is debian too
[07:13] <reisio> hey DzAirmaX
[07:13] <ikonia> geektech713: no
[07:13] <xtriz> reisio, ok
[07:14] <geektech713> works for me
[07:14] <geektech713> from skype and others
[07:14] <reisio> ikonia: well if it has no deps to speak of :p
[07:14] <penguinman> geektech713, most of those are also designed with ubuntu in mind.
[07:14] <ikonia> geektech713: there will be very sprcific ones, such as skype that are targeted across platforms, but as a general rule of thumb, "no"
[07:14] <DzAirmaX> can someone tells me the right / ownership on the /var/run/motd & /var/run/motd.dynamic files plz ?
[07:15] <Rory> DzAirmaX: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139 Oct 14 07:39 /var/run/motd
[07:15] <Rory> DzAirmaX: The other file does not exist on my machine
[07:15] <ashu11> ls -lart /var/run/motd
[07:15] <ashu11> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 373 2013-10-06 16:24 /var/run/motd
[07:16] <geektech713> can always download wine /playonlinux too
[07:16] <Rory> Yep DzAirmaX two of us both ahve root:root 644
[07:16] <DzAirmaX> thank you guyz
[07:16] <DaemonicApathy> ashu11: You should really check your time settings...
[07:17] <Rory> DaemonicApathy: Why? That's the file creation time
[07:17] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, of course. Its late for me. -_-
[07:17] <chefsfi> rang
[07:18] <ashu11> np
[07:20] <DzAirmaX> Rory & ashu11 : do you have a /etc/motd on your system ?
[07:20] <Rory> DzAirmaX: no, Ubuntu uses /etc/update-motd.d
[07:20] <Rory> DzAirmaX: Files in that directory are concatenated in order
[07:20] <ashu11> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2013-10-02 22:45 /etc/motd -> /var/run/motd
[07:20] <DzAirmaX> Rory : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man5/update-motd.5.html
[07:21] <DzAirmaX> On   Ubuntu   systems,  /etc/motd  is  typically  a  symbolic  link  to  /var/run/motd.
[07:21] <Rory> cat: /etc/motd: No such file or directory
[07:21] <DzAirmaX> frome the man, but on y msystem I dont have it
[07:21] <ashu11> yes DzAirmaX
[07:21] <Rory> Must be version dependant
[07:21] <strk> man find -- gives me npm-search -- Search for packages
[07:21] <strk> ?!
[07:22] <Rory> !details | strk
[07:22] <Rory> DzAirmaX: If you want to change the motd, edit files in the /etc/update-motd.d/ directory
[07:22] <strk> Rory: I run "man find" and I get the man page for npm-serach(1)
[07:22] <Rory> strk: what about "man 1 find"
[07:23] <DzAirmaX> Rory : I dont understand, the motd doesnt update itself on each session, I got always like 2 sessions decalage for the refresh of the update-motd.d
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> i  get the find man page for man find here,
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> !find npm-search
[07:23] <strk> Rory: same thing NPM-SEARCH(1)                                                                                                 NPM-SEARCH(1)
[07:24] <ashu11> i have to run apache server at system logon, without any user login, where can i add the command ?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> !info npm
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> ashu11:  if you add the apache2 service - it does auto start at system boot
[07:24] <strk> Package `npm' is not installed. ( I installed manually )
[07:24] <strk> so maybe the upstream npm installer messes up with find(1) ?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> ashu11:  installing apache2 here does it automatically
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> !lamp
[07:25] <ashu11> Dr_Willis, how to add the service, i have apache 2 installed already, but i need to run it manually after root login
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> ashu11:  err... by default its setup to run at system boot. theres no need for any user to login
[07:26] <ashu11> i mean , right not i do it manually but i want to run it automatically at system on.
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> ashu11:  what  ubuntu release are you using?
[07:26] <ashu11> now**
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> ashu11:  again. by default it should be auto starting if you installed it properly
[07:26] <ashu11> i am using backtrack 5 r3, ubuntu based
[07:27] <aeon-ltd> ashu11: well go to that chan
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> ashu11:  thats not ubuntu. and you should be seeing the backtrack support channels
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> ashu11:  and really backtrack is not a 'server' focused Disrto.
[07:27] <ashu11> okay, thanks
[07:27] <penguinman> ashu11, ahhh, most likely you need to add it to init.d
[07:27] <ashu11> thanks penguinman , i ll check it.
[07:28] <DzAirmaX> rory : you have an idea why it dosnt update properly ?
[07:28] <DzAirmaX> Rory : I also notice the file was empty at first login ...
[07:28] <DzAirmaX> Rory : I need to log twice for have the motd :O
[07:28] <Rory> DzAirmaX: Read this info http://askubuntu.com/questions/105689/how-is-etc-motd-updated
[07:28] <penguinman> ashu11, also, you may want to check out kali linux. basically an updated backtrack
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> i just do a 'touch .hushlogin' and i never see the MOTD. ;)
[07:29] <Rory> Dr_Willis: That's a neat trick, remembered
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Rory:  old skool linux/unix ;)
[07:29] <rymate1234> I like my mots
[07:29] <ashu11> ok, thanks penguinman
[07:29] <rymate1234> *motd
[07:29] <rymate1234> :<
[07:29] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, wow, can't remember the last time I actually used touch for anything.
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> cowsay $(fortune) --> best motd. ;)
[07:30] <reisio> rfksay!
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:   its used to make empty files or set the date. :)
[07:31] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, oh, i know what it's used for, just been forever since I used it.
[07:31]  * penguinman harkens back to his slackware days
[07:31] <reisio> harken?!
[07:31] <DzAirmaX> Rory : I read that already, it supposed to work @ every loggin and it dosnt, that's why I come ask you guyz :)
[07:32] <Rory> DzAirmaX: Ah, I don't know then, not really used it much. Can you clarify your Ubuntu version?
[07:32] <DzAirmaX> Rory : 13.10
[07:32] <Rory> DzAirmaX: Support in #ubuntu+1
[07:32] <DzAirmaX> ok thank you sir
[07:32] <DzAirmaX> have a nice day
[07:33] <Moseco> penguinman: I tried update-grub and i have the same error. on boot and try to select windows: file not found. I can boot into ubuntu fine. Do you know of anything i can do to fix this?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> Moseco:  what file is it saying is not found?
[07:33] <penguinman> Moseco, short of manually editing grub.conf, not sure
[07:34] <xmetal> ?? SuperGrubCD or Ra.. oh heck i forgot how to spell it again
[07:34] <xmetal> ??
[07:34] <penguinman> Dr_Willis, he's having issues with dual booting with win8
[07:34] <penguinman> for some reason grub isn't picking up the efi/boot partition.
[07:35]  * Dr_Willis runs away from windows 8.
[07:35] <penguinman> afaik the boot process is identical to win 7
[07:35] <kalakj> hi all
[07:35] <kalakj> i am having a strange problem
[07:35] <penguinman> except in this case there's efi happiness thrown in
[07:36] <kalakj> i am not able to add new user to my laptop
[07:36] <Moseco> Dr_Willis: I have 2 files in grub:  Windows uefi bkpbootmgfw.efi and windows boot uefi loader When i try to select either it says file not found. I have used boot-repair (here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/6234854/
[07:36] <kalakj> when i tried command line, i got following error
[07:36] <kalakj> Adding user `user1' ...
[07:36] <kalakj> Adding new group `user1' (1001) ...
[07:36] <kalakj> Adding new user `user1' (1001) with group `user1' ...
[07:36] <kalakj> Creating home directory `/home/user1' ...
[07:36] <kalakj> Copying files from `/etc/skel' ...
[07:36] <FloodBot1> kalakj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:36] <kalakj> Stopped: Cannot deal with /etc/skel/./.local/share/BitDefender-scanner/.commsock.
[07:36] <xmetal> ack
[07:36] <xmetal> what was that
[07:37] <ashu11> is there any forum for ubuntu for arm based devices, i wanna know if there is any distro that i can install on my galaxy tab 2 7"
[07:37] <compdoc> on one computer, nautilus sorts folders and files differently than it does on another pc. very frustrating. can it be fixed?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> kalakj:  youve modified your /etc/skel? Look in there to see if thers  some weird paths
[07:37] <penguinman> xmetal, someone not knowing how to use a pastebin
[07:37] <xmetal> !pastebin
[07:37] <xmetal> Skynet hates me :(
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> gotta love a 6 line paste.. when the actual error is on one line. ;)
[07:37] <xmetal> oh n/m there it goes :)
[07:38] <Moseco> penguinman: i sent a message that was to dr_wills if you look for it you can see more information about my problem. exact file name/pastebin from boot-repair
[07:38] <kalakj> Dr_Willis: I used remastersys, i haven't modified anything
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> kalakj:  Look in /etc/skel and prove that statement
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> kalakj:  it seems to be seeing some sort of odd link in /etc/skel
[07:39] <kalakj> Dr_Willis: i looked the directory but there is no file or folder with .
[07:39] <kalakj> i mean a file named .
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> kalakj:  ls -al dosent show anything?
[07:39] <penguinman> Moseco, yeah, was looking. think I found the issue. look on line 469. grub isn't able to read the drive.
[07:40] <kalakj> okay, problem solved
[07:40] <kalakj> uninstalled Bit-defender and deleted the whole bit-defender scanner folder
[07:41] <kalakj> thanks
[07:41] <SecretFire> is there a way to get out of software rendering mode?
[07:41] <Moseco> penguinman: the dev/sda is the disk with windows 8.1. is there a way to get around this?
[07:41] <xmetal> eh?
[07:41] <penguinman> Moseco, not sure off the top of my head. windows isn't exactly my area of expertise.
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, you mean to a command line?
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, I noticed that sda1 does not have a boot flag as I looked at the script again, you can put one there with gparted and see if the update-grub picks up windows.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> seems odd the boot flag would vanish
[07:45] <sujx> Unable to boot from grub, "error: unknown command gfxmode.. how can i solve it
[07:45] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: im looking at gparted right now and in dev/sda1 it says under the section flag there is "boot" Is this not the same?
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> sujx:  sounds like your grub config is goofed up?
[07:45] <Moseco> penguinman: Okay, thanks for the help. If you can think of something, let me know!
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, far right column or the label?
[07:46] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: yes. I used boot-repair again, if you didnt see the new pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6234854/
[07:46] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: was unclear, far right column for sda1 says boot
[07:47] <itsbalamurali> hi
[07:47] <reisio> hi
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, If your sure, its just a guess on this, windows generally need a boot flag that means an active partition in windows, you can right click sda1 and make sure.
[07:48] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, I don't see the script showing it with a flag, but the script has limitations with reading gpt I believe
[07:49] <penguinman> Moseco, ok, here's a link to some things you can try to get it working (manual editing of grub.conf required.) it's from the archwiki so it's not super user friendly but it should at least get you pointed in the right direction: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#With_Windows_Installed_in_UEFI-GPT_Mode
[07:50] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: I right clicked on sda1 and selected information, and it says in one of the rows flags: boot
[07:50] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, cool
[07:50] <Moseco> penguinman: Thanks. Worst comes to worst. ill use boot-reapri to restore the mbr and then just select linux to boot manually whne i want to use it.
[07:50] <itsbalamurali> ha god whats this IRC thing this doesn't look good
[07:51] <reisio> ikr
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> itsbalamurali:  irc has been around for decades
[07:51] <reisio> unlike many other things most people are new to
[07:51] <itsbalamurali> but interface is not so friendly
[07:51] <reisio> the webUI is alright
[07:52] <reisio> if you want something better try xchat
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> itsbalamurali:  err.. theres dozens and dozens of diffefnt irc clients
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> !irc | itsbalamurali
[07:52] <itsbalamurali> ok
[07:52] <itsbalamurali> thanks
[07:52] <penguinman> if you don't mind qt apps, quassel is god like as far as irc clients go.
[07:52] <itsbalamurali> where can i get this xchat
[07:53] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: i got a link from penguinman about manually editing the grub.conf Im going t take  a look at that. If you think of something let m know
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> itsbalamurali:  its in the software center
[07:53] <k1l> !xchat | itsbalamurali
[07:53] <itsbalamurali> ok i will try
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> !info xchat
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> itsbalamurali:  'sudo apt-get install xchat' will also install xcaht
[07:54] <Moseco> penguinman: where is the grub.conf file? i am in /boot/grub but cant find a file called grub.conf
[07:54] <reisio> it's not that fundamentally different, from a UI perspective, but it'll blend into the GUI better
[07:54] <penguinman> itsbalamurali, yes, you've stumbled upon the secret hacker world of irc. it's how all the super leet hax0rs communicate. :)
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> Moseco, never know a custom grub entry may work, I would also consider the ubuntu forums as well the author of the bootrepair app is on their regularly, and a mod who is quite good in this area, and other uefi users.
[07:55] <Moseco> wilee-nilee: Thank you.
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> I would want update-grub to work if it were me
[07:55] <penguinman> Moseco, ah, ubuntu has it as grub.cfg
[07:56] <Moseco> penguinman: found it, thanks.
[07:56] <penguinman> ok, well I'm out for the evening. you folks take care.
[07:57] <krz> isnt 13.10 supposed to be out?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> krz:  no
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> !release
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> !schedule
[07:58] <k1l> !saucy | krz
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> assuming theres no delays. ;)
[08:05] <ashu11> :)
[08:05] <it-guy> moin
[08:05] <Uragan> hi all!
[08:06] <it-guy> hi Uragan
[08:06] <Uragan> ned your help guys!
[08:07] <hitsujiTMO> !ask | uragan
[08:07] <k1l> !details | Uragan
[08:07] <zwamkat> Crew, I'm running an interactive cli php script. When I use the backspace to correct a typo it shows the ^H. Regular shell (bash) handles all characters just fine. Any suggestions?
[08:07] <Uragan> i`m using ubuntu 12.04, and need to connect monitor with S-video output (video card Radeon 2400 HD)
[08:07] <auronandace> !dash | zwamkat
[08:08] <Uragan> but on command xrandr i don`t have S-video line, only DIN, DVI-0 and DVI-1
[08:08] <zwamkat> auronandace: But it's a php script.
[08:09] <auronandace> zwamkat: any reason you're not using a bash script?
[08:09] <Uragan> why i don`t have s-video? when i try to xrandr --addmode S-video 1024x768 xrandr can`t find S-voideo output.  But i have it on my video card
[08:10] <zwamkat> auronandace: Yes, it's part of a open source package. ISPConfig. Script is fine. I just need the php prompt to handle te characters correctly.
[08:11] <auronandace> zwamkat: perhaps a php channel can help you with that
[08:12] <Uragan> !ask
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> Uragan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/SVideo
[08:12] <zwamkat> auronandace: right, 'cause I already reconfigured dash: dpkg-reconfigure dash
[08:13]  * Uragan slaps wilee-nilee around a bit with a large trout
[08:13] <Uragan> sorry
[08:13] <Uragan> wilee-nilee, ubuntu 12/04 don`t have xorg.conf
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> this from a user who misspells all over the post, lol
[08:16] <minimec> Uragan: Try the DIN port.
[08:20] <Uragan> minimec, try to pui it in /etc/default/grub  like this "video=DIN:1024x768e" no profit ((
[08:21] <osi> Attention, j'ai "foiré" une tentative d'utilisation en ligne de commande de la nouvelle liste citi-robots .. !
[08:21] <fidel> !fr | osi
[08:23] <Uragan> have any more help with S-video output ?
[08:24] <minimec> Uragan: 'Check' your mode on console with 'gtf 1024 768 60' (<-- 60 = Freq), then 'xrandr --newmode "result of the gtf command", then 'xrandr --addmode DIN 1024x768_60'
[08:26] <tcatsunent> When ijust booted my laptop i saw grub rescue. can i just use a live cd to boot up and fix the issue?
[08:27] <deego> yes
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> tcatsunent, This was a working install previously?
[08:27] <tcatsunent> okay I thought so once i calmed down lol
[08:28] <tcatsunent> yes i was deleting an unused partition but somehow that messed up the grub multiboot or something
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> tcatsunent, That partition happen to have a os with grub?
[08:28] <minimec> Uragan: see post #24 for the procedure (other device but same procedure...) https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164385
[08:28] <tcatsunent> i was able to boot to windows,ubuntu,and backtrack
[08:30] <tcatsunent> it must have so i dont know live cd reinstall grub then reboot?
[08:30] <Romance> where can i find python3.pc
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> !find python3.pc
[08:31] <reisio> Romance: ask apt-file
[08:31] <Romance> ActionParsnip in installed python3.3 in virtualenv, because i dont have root privileges, but i need python3 for my znc
[08:31] <Romance> i
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> tcatsunent, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[08:32] <Uragan> minimec  no help with adding ne mode for DIN ((
[08:33] <wilee-nilee> tcatsunent, From the info you have given, I would guess you need to reload grub to the mbr that link tells you how, or you can use the boot repair app
[08:34] <tcatsunent> wilee-nilee: thank you very much
[08:34] <minimec> Uragan: When you open the 'display-settings' GUI, would the s-video device be an option (just with the wrong resolution)?
[08:34] <Uragan> i have 12/04 server
[08:35] <Uragan> can`t open GUI
[08:35] <minimec> Uragan: I see...
[08:36] <Uragan> hov can i go to display-settings GUI?
[08:36] <minimec> Uragan: Well... I would do the same procedure on these DVI-X ports. I mean, the link I posted is about a USB-display, recognized as DVI-0... Give it a try.
[08:37] <Uragan> minimec you mean to try post #24
[08:38] <minimec> Uragan: Yeah... give it a try for all your available 'ports'...
[08:38] <minimec> Uragan: Also... What driver are you using for that GPU? The open source driver or the AMD(ATI)restricted one?
[08:41] <Uragan> minimec how can i get to display manager ?
[08:44] <minimec> Uragan: Well you cannot right now, as you don't have a GUI environment, but you can activate the display with 'xrandr -d :0 --output $DIN --mode 1024x768_60.00' or similar
[08:45] <EchoDev> In Windows you automaticly get a GUI environment
[08:45] <EchoDev> just saying
[08:48] <minimec> Uragan: remove that '$' sign from the command above. I was copy/paste out of a script of mine...
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> EchoDev: how is that relevant?
[08:51]  * cfhowlett_ ... thinking?
[08:59] <Uragan> minimec no good (
[09:00] <Dai_1987> Uragan, it looks like you need to replace $DIN with DVI_0 or something
[09:04] <andreiiar> Youtube does not work on fresh install. It just loads forever. I switched to html5 and it is the same.
[09:04] <Dai_1987> sounds about right for youtube these days...
[09:05] <k1l> andreiiar: you got the codecs installed?
[09:05] <k1l> !codecs | andreiiar
[09:05] <andreiiar> !codecs | andreiiar
[09:06] <k1l> andreiiar: see the bots message
[09:07] <flashUbun> If I install 13.10 beta now, can I just upgrade to final is if I'd installed from the final ISO?
[09:08] <minimec> Uragan: Ok. I would search the web to see if the available drivers for your GPU do support s-video out. It really depends on the ubuntu distribution you use. For 12.04 Precise, there is a restricted 'Catalyst' driver and the open source driver available for your card. For newer Ubuntu versions, the restricted driver for your card has been removed.
[09:08] <zykotick9> !final | flashUbun
[09:08] <andreiiar> k1l: It works with restricted extras.
[09:08] <flashUbun> Cheers zykotick9
[09:08] <ernesto_> hi! how do i set my ubuntu 12.04 (unity desktop manager) not to startx when booting?
[09:09] <k1l> !text | ernesto_
[09:09] <flashUbun> !nvidia
[09:10] <ernesto_> ubottu:do i have to do that each time i reboot?
[09:11] <k1l> ernesto_: yes. or you change the grub to put that into that kernel line per default.
[09:12] <ernesto_> k1l: ok, by the way, there is not gdm anymore with unity, how is the service called now?
[09:13] <k1l> ernesto_: lightdm
[09:14] <ernesto_> k1l: and should i find that lightdm in my current runlevel to be started when booting?
[09:15] <k1l> ernesto_: ubuntu uses upstart. but i would not recommend to change something in there. there is the "text" kernel command for this intention
[09:16] <Uragan> minimec  my system can`t find S-voideo   output ((
[09:16] <Ashok> Hello
[09:17] <mregg> Hi all :) With Ubuntu, is it possible to grant a user access to a sub-folder without granting him access to the parent folder?
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO> mregg, the simplest method ( not necessarily the best ) is to chmod 777 the sub folder ... but that gives everyone access to it
[09:18] <mregg> hitsujiTMO: no no, not good. I'm creating groups to grant access to subfolders.
[09:19] <hitsujiTMO> or do you mean that the user does not have access at all to the parent folder?
[09:19] <ashoksahoo> Is it okay to use WUBI for development env
[09:19] <mregg> well, the user is part of the subfolder group, but not part of the parent group
[09:19] <mregg> hitsujiTMO: let me explain a bit better :
[09:20] <k1l> ashoksahoo: wubi is just for testing purposes. it is installed into a container inside the windows filesystem. most recommend to make a native isntall on real partitions. or make a virtual install in a virtualbox
[09:20] <mregg> /home/mainshare is 770 root:mainshare
[09:20] <minimec> Uragan: Do you really need a display on that 'server install', or would an graphical access via 'ssh -X' be enough? Like that you would have an administration GUI without the need of a seperate screen.
[09:20] <mregg> /home/mainshare/sub1 is 770 root:sub1
[09:21] <mregg> and so my user1 is member of sub1 but not mainshare
[09:21] <hitsujiTMO> have you tried softlinking to the sub folder?
[09:21] <mregg> yup
[09:21] <ashoksahoo> I dont want to lose my stuff on windows if the ubuntu goes wrong and grub fails
[09:22] <hitsujiTMO> ashoksahoo: is a virtual machine a possibility?
[09:22] <Rory> ashoksahoo: Just because you can't boot into windows doesn't mean your files aren't still there
[09:23] <hitsujiTMO> mregg: this might be the wrong way to go about it, but you could do it with an nfs share
[09:23] <mregg> no
[09:23] <k1l> ashoksahoo: even with a wubi install there is the same risk of doing some harm. so use a VM if you dont want to touch your harddrive
[09:23] <mregg> hitsujiTMO: I'm just trying to share a subfolder only
[09:23] <ashoksahoo> in wubi there is risk to ubuntu, but not to windows.
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> ashoksahoo:  with wubi.. windows can fail and kill ubuntu
[09:24] <hitsujiTMO> yes you could nfs share the subfolder
[09:24] <hitsujiTMO> and mount it on the same machine
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> ashoksahoo:  wubi is also being phased out. if you want a safe test place.. use virtualbox
[09:24] <ashoksahoo> haha.. then I will go with native thing I guess
[09:24] <k1l> ashoksahoo: wrong. its also a risk that windows gets corrupted. so that is no guarantee
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> ashoksahoo:  best is to have a 2nd hard drive just for ubuntu ;) and keep grub on that hd. so the 2 os's are as seperte as you can get.
[09:25] <k1l> !dualboot | ashoksahoo
[09:25] <mregg> hitsujiTMO: no, because everybody using the same computer though freenx
[09:25] <mregg> hitsujiTMO: in other words, there's no nfs involved
[09:27] <hitsujiTMO> mreg tho only other thing i can think of is store the subfolder elsewhere and softlink it in the parent
[09:28] <flashUbun> Hasn't flash stop being updated for Linux? Is it safer to use Chrome then?
[09:29] <hitsujiTMO> flashUbun: flash is difficult to get working on ubuntu, for most users installing Chrome is the easiest option
[09:30] <flashUbun> I always just install flash-installer and it works?
[09:30] <Rory> flashUbun: please run the command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[09:31] <flashUbun> It's fine - it works thanks. I'm justing asking now that Linux is no longer getting updates and Google have taken over, is Chrome safer to use?
[09:31] <wilee-nilee> flashUbun, safer from what?
[09:31] <Rory> flashUbun: Probably; Chrome's "pepper flash" is updated more often
[09:31] <bekks> Rory: That approach is outdated. It will install the last native version of flash, which is abandoned by adobe.
[09:31] <flashUbun> Just in general :-)
[09:32] <Rory> The best thing is not to use flash at all, really
[09:32] <Rory> I mean, it's 2013
[09:32] <flashUbun> I agree but it is still required :-(
[09:32] <Rory> For what?
[09:32] <Rory> Adverts is all I can think of
[09:32] <bekks> flashUbun: Use Chrome and PepperFlash.
[09:32] <flashUbun> Certain websites.
[09:32] <[Gentoo]> i tried living without flash for ~2 years
[09:32] <[Gentoo]> its a pita
[09:32] <Rory> The gnash plugin doesn't suck any more
[09:33] <Rory> Well, not as much
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> flashUbun: most site have a html5 implementation these days
[09:33] <flashUbun> Even sites like speedtest.net?
[09:33] <[Gentoo]> most stuff dont work without flash
[09:33] <[Gentoo]> htlm5 is good but hardly anything in the real world uses it
[09:33] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: Thats not true, unless yoiu are talking about YT.
[09:33] <flashUbun> YouTube doesn't support all videos in HTML5... yet.
[09:34] <hitsujiTMO> maybe thats just my experience then,
[09:34] <[Gentoo]> hardly any YT videos work without flash in my experience
[09:34] <[Gentoo]> even with the opt in htlm5
[09:34] <reisio> you're confusing video formats that browsers now support with HTML5 anyways
[09:34] <reisio> different things
[09:34] <Rory> flashUbun: But in answer to your question, yeah the best way is to use Chrome. Even if you don't use it as your main browser. I wonder if there's a way to use Chrome's flash in Firefox, presumably there's a libflashplayer.so somewhere
[09:34] <reisio> HTML5 has new things, things that make it easier on developers
[09:34] <reisio> but nothing we didn't already have before
[09:35] <bekks> Rory: There is no libflashplayer.so anymore using PepperFlash.
[09:35] <flashUbun> Maybe! Isn't Chromium becoming default in 14.04 next year?
[09:35] <reisio> not a damned thing
[09:35] <bekks> flashUbun: chromium does not ship with PepperFlash. Chrome does.
[09:35] <reisio> Rory: why not just use ordinary Flash in Firefox
[09:35] <flashUbun> You're kidding? Alright.
[09:36] <reisio> Flash is not being developed, it doesn't matter if it gradually becomes more outdated than it was
[09:36] <Rory> reisio: It's pretty insecure now
[09:36] <Gunteere> hi! does someone have experience with apcupsd? i'm having trouble detecting a communication failure event, the daemon logs the correct status to /var/log/apcupsd.status, but does not write it to the regular logile /var/log/apcupsd.events, does not annoy the users, and does not execute the /etc/apcupsd/commfailure script...
[09:36] <reisio> Rory: it always was
[09:36] <Rory> Yes reisio but newly discovered vulnerabilities remain unpatched
[09:36] <flashUbun> I've been jumping from Ubuntu to Windows for the past 6/7 years but I'm finally going to give up Windows in favour of Ubuntu :-)
[09:36] <reisio> oh thought this was #css for a moment, lot of web discussion
[09:36] <Rory> reisio: It's pretty quiet
[09:36] <bekks> reisio: Flash is actively developed. The native implementation was abandoned by Adobe, PepperFlash is under active development.
[09:36] <reisio> Rory: was ever the case
[09:37] <reisio> flashUbun: gj
[09:37] <reisio> bekks: nah
[09:37] <flashUbun> Sorry, might be my fault we went on to Web. I *was* a web developer until recently and I tend to start these things :/
[09:37] <bekks> reisio: Do you have any links of Adobe stating they cancelled development for PepperFlash?
[09:38] <reisio> flashUbun: just an observation, I don't mind talking about web stuff, obviously :p
[09:38] <flashUbun> Google is doing the development for that aren't they?
[09:38] <Rory> I have an actual support question: I accidentally disabled my mouse using a third-party xinput gui, but I don't understand how to re-enable it with the xinput CLI tool. It says to use "xinput enable <device>" but I'm not sure what to put for device
[09:38] <reisio> bekks: stating they've stopped focusing on flash, sure
[09:38] <bekks> flashUbun: No. Google just integrates PepperFlash into Chrome.
[09:38] <reisio> don't confuse flash and an api
[09:38] <reisio> Rory: yeah, let's see...
[09:39] <bekks> reisio: Stating that they cancelled native flash development, sure. Thats what I said earlier. They did to focus on PepperFlash. Thats What I said earlier.
[09:39] <yesyayen> hi all, while installing a package i get this error,
[09:39] <yesyayen> s
[09:39] <reisio> Rory: xinput set-prop numberHere 'Device Enabled' 1 ?
[09:39] <reisio> s/ \?$//
[09:39] <reisio> don't confuse flash and an api
[09:39] <yesyayen> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gconf-service_3.2.6-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:39] <yesyayen>  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconf/2/libgconfbackend-oldxml.so', which is also in package gconf-service-backend 3.2.6-0ubuntu1
[09:39] <yesyayen> No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[09:39] <yesyayen>                                                               dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[09:39] <yesyayen> Errors were encountered while processing:/var/cache/apt/archives/gconf-service_3.2.6-1_i386.deb
[09:39] <varfoo> hey guys, can anyone help me install ag on my terminal?
[09:39] <FloodBot1> yesyayen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:39] <yesyayen> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:40] <Rory> !details | varfoo
[09:40] <flashUbun> It's a joint partnership with Adobe and Google. As far as I know they are still actively developing the "Pepper" and it's just 11.2 (I think) was the last Adobe Flash for linux (with 5 years of security updates)
[09:41] <andry> just found a little hack for chromium and chrome to scroll faster without extension ... if someone is interested .. http://goo.gl/IzXbN3
[09:41] <krz> Rory: whats so unclear about that question?
[09:41] <reisio> pepper flash, or PPAPI, is an API
[09:41] <Rory> krz: Well presumably he's having some kind of problem installing it, but has provided no details as to what the problem is
[09:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Hey guys
[09:41] <krz> !stopabusingthebot | Rory
[09:41] <yesyayen> getting this error while installing package--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6235185/
[09:41] <varfoo> Rory: trying to run command 'ap' on my terminal to search for keywords in the specific directory
[09:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Do locale modules need to be installed or uncommented somewhere?
[09:41] <reisio> Rory: that work?
[09:42] <k1l> krz: stop that. be helpfull when you are  in here
[09:42] <varfoo> Rory: 'ag'*
[09:42] <Rory> reisio: No - take a look at this output of xinput: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6235191
[09:43] <Rory> reisio: That shows my device names and IDs - I don't know which one of the two identically named mouse entries is the actual one
[09:44] <krz> varfoo: https://github.com/ggreer/the_silver_searcher
[09:44] <flashUbun> Can I just ask for someone to clearify on the Beta -> Final situation. If you're on, say, 13.10 beta and you upgrade to 13.10 final, I'm guessing you'll stick on that branch and won't all of a sudden end up with14.04 Beta in the future? If I'm not mistaken Ubuntu doesn't have beta "releases" per se just updates to the branch/version.
[09:44] <reisio> Rory: one or the other? :p
[09:44] <Rory> reisio: Yeah I tried both :)
[09:44] <reisio> Rory: what command?
[09:45] <Rory> reisio: xinput set-prop 8 'Device Enabled' 1
[09:45] <Rory> reisio: Also "xinput enable 8" which doesn't error
[09:45] <hitsujiTMO> !final | flashUbun
[09:45] <cedq_007> Is it possible/how to set group rwx permissions from umask in octal notation?
[09:46] <Rory> flashUbun: To clarify: yes you are correct
[09:46] <flashUbun> I know that :-) I'm just wondering if you're using a beta and upgrade to a final if you'll automatically get future betas.
[09:46] <Rory> flashUbun: No you won't
[09:46] <zykotick9> cedq_007: whatever you are doing - it's wrong.  why would you want all files to be executable?
[09:46] <Rory> flashUbun: It's not like Arch or something with rolling branches
[09:46] <flashUbun> Cheers :) Reason: I can't wait to go pure-Ubuntu so I'm going to pop on 13.10 Beta today (can't wait for the 17th)
[09:46] <cedq_007> zykotick9, test question
[09:46] <Rory> flashUbun: Grab a daily, the beta is pretty old now and you'll have a lot more updates to do
[09:47] <wilee-nilee> flashUbun, You choose any distro upgrade.
[09:47] <hitsujiTMO> cedq_007: umask 002 assigns rwxrwxr-x
[09:47] <flashUbun> I've always waited for the finals you see - but I'm now impatient :-P
[09:47] <bekks> reisio: The API is the PepperAPI, PepperFlash is a plugin using the PepperAPI.
[09:47] <hitsujiTMO> cedq_007: damn, wish i saw your "test question" response before i did your homework
[09:48] <bekks> reisio: So please dont confuse them ;)
[09:49] <flashUbun> Gah! My dang K90 keyboard is driving me bananas on Ubuntu. I have to have it in "standard mode" meaning the scroll lock led keeps flashing. Thanks Corsair :-/
[09:49] <Rory> reisio: I unplugged and plugged my mouse and it worked (facedesk)
[09:49] <sepero> reisio: did we have this before html5?  http://blog.artooro.com/2013/06/08/cross-platform-browser-html5-desktop-notifications/
[09:49] <flashUbun> Rory, one should respect their "work" environment ;-)
[09:50] <cedq_007> hitusjiTMO: I can see this with directory.   Oddly, the test question asks for this on a file, which befuddles me
[09:51] <XATRIX> Guys, I have problems during update... I have a try reminder for updates. And it always shows the exclamation sign within a red circle. Sounds if it say i have troubles during the update check procedure. Should be done manually
[09:51] <XATRIX> But all of my repositories are installed correctly
[09:51] <XATRIX> How can i fix it ?
[09:51] <reisio> Rory: heh, gj
[09:52] <zykotick9> XATRIX: what release?  "lsb_release -sc"
[09:52] <k1l> XATRIX: please put into a pastebin: "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade"
[09:52] <faugusztin> XATRIX: run apt-get upgrade, it will probably say "run apt-get -f install"
[09:52] <wilee-nilee> XATRIX, What ubuntu release is this?
[09:52] <reisio> sepero: there is nothing added in HTML5 that makes anything possible that wasn't already possible
[09:52] <yasoob> hi there everyone
[09:52] <yasoob> :)
[09:52] <reisio> yasoob: hi
[09:52] <XATRIX> raring
[09:52] <flashUbun> Hey
[09:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone tell me the neccesairy steps to install german locale for the sole purpose of printing a german date?
[09:52] <Wiz_KeeD> ubuntu 12.04
[09:53] <XATRIX> k1l: yes, it updates correctly. But why does the checker fails ?
[09:53] <yasoob> I am a python programmer. Is there any way i can contribute ?
[09:53] <k1l> XATRIX: please show the output
[09:53] <sepero> reisio: cool. can you link me to info on how to do desktop notifications without html5?
[09:53] <yasoob> I mean which project should i look intp
[09:53] <Uragan> Dai_1987 how to replace them?
[09:53] <XATRIX> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[09:53] <yasoob> into *
[09:54] <reisio> sepero: this thing you linked to refers to a JS API
[09:54] <Dai_1987> Uragan: ? i haven't said anything for a while, refresh my memory
[09:54] <XATRIX> k1l: if i run apt-get update & upgrade - it will hide the icon off.. I wouldn't be able to reproduce it until the next ubuntu updates will be released
[09:54] <reisio> sepero: what part of that do you think requires HTML5?
[09:54] <yasoob> reisio: any suggestion ?
[09:55] <XATRIX> Everything updates, and upgrades correctly. I'm sure of. Simply have a fail icon of system-tray-auto-update-checker
[09:55] <XATRIX> in XFCE
[09:55] <sepero> Notification.requestPermission(function (perm) {
[09:55] <sepero>     if (perm == 'granted') {
[09:55] <sepero>         // Tell your app it's OK to send notifications
[09:55] <sepero>     }
[09:55] <sepero> });
[09:55] <FloodBot1> sepero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:55] <sepero> reisio: ^^
[09:55] <faugusztin> reisio: it is a semantics question - desktop notifications are defined by whatwg group, which is the HTML5 guys :)... but you are righ, sure
[09:55] <reisio> sepero: that just uses JS to tell something else something, nothing new
[09:56] <reisio> faugusztin: yeah, heavy on the mantics :)
 Uragan, it looks like you need to replace $DIN with DVI_0 or something
[09:57] <Uragan> it`s about s-video uotput
[09:57] <Dai_1987> Uragan: i meant literally type the name of your output when running that command
[09:58] <Dai_1987> Uragan: DVI_0 was just an example
[09:58] <eeos> serious problem here .... I am connected to internet, no application open but there is a lot of traffic on the network card .... how do I list the processes that are transmitting on the network?
[09:58] <andreiiar> $netstat
[09:59] <faugusztin> eeos: netstat -c ?
[09:59] <eeos> faugusztin: thanks
[09:59] <andreiiar> What, I get no thanks?
[10:00] <andreiiar> Come on man, I am going to lead climb for the first time today I need my karma.
[10:00] <faugusztin> andreiiar: :)
[10:02] <eeos> thanks andreiiar
[10:03] <eeos> :D
[10:03] <eeos> apologies, but that is not what i really needed .... I need to list the processes that are actually talking on an itnerface (eth0) listed by traffic ....
[10:04] <XATRIX> k1l: http://ur1.ca/fvyrj
[10:04] <reisio> andreiiar: no thanks :)
[10:04] <eeos> something like iotop -a but for the network interface!
[10:04] <XATRIX> k1l: I think nothing unusual
[10:05] <faugusztin> eeos: iftop ?
[10:05] <flashUbun> Little bit of a PC support question here. In my BIOS under boot priority I have old OSes listed that are no longer installed. Any idea how to remove these?
[10:05] <andreiiar> eeos: htop
[10:05] <ihre> atop
[10:05] <ihre> includes all *top packages
[10:05] <faugusztin> flashUbun: UEFI ?
[10:05] <eeos> andreiiar: can you track network interfaces with htop?
[10:05] <k1l> XATRIX: you have 32bit and 64bit repos enabled?
[10:05] <flashUbun> Yea
[10:06] <faugusztin> flashUbun: efibootmgr i think
[10:06] <Uragan> Dai_1987 i see...try this, but no profit (
[10:06] <k1l> XATRIX: ah wait. that is a comon output
[10:06] <faugusztin> flashUbun: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63610/how-do-i-remove-ubuntu-in-the-bios-boot-menu
[10:06] <XATRIX> k1l: nope. Only 64
[10:06] <eeos> thanks faugusztin andreiiar ihre, I will look into those.
[10:06] <faugusztin> eeos: iftop will tell you where do you communicate, but not which process unfortunately
[10:07] <k1l> XATRIX: does it show any errors after you did the apt-get upgrade?
[10:07] <faugusztin> eeos: like it will say you are sending X kb towards server Y
[10:07] <XATRIX> k1l: nothing extra
[10:07] <XATRIX> No errors, i can proceed with upgrades
[10:07] <eeos> faugusztin: yes, I am tetsing it now .... mmmm .... I really need to know which process is responsible.
[10:08] <zykotick9> !info nethogs | eeos
[10:09] <eeos> thanks zykotick9, I will look into it.
[10:09] <eeos> brb!
[10:09] <flashUbun> Back soon
[10:16] <irctc292> hello guys. i have a problem with installing of ubuntu on hp envy 1110et laptop
[10:17] <reisio> irctc292: bummer
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> irctc292  what kind problem, what ubuntu version?
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> kind of*
[10:18] <irctc292> now i have just windows 8 pro on laptop but i want to install ubuntu 13.04
[10:18] <reisio> how is that a problem? :)
[10:18] <irctc292> i downloeaded iso and burn it to on my flash and now i am on ubuntu try version
[10:18] <tilerendering> hi - I do this every year, once, if at all: how do I enable read access (and nothing else) for a specific group on a file ?
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> irctc292  uefi may be the issue
[10:18] <irctc292> when i want to click install ubuntu its ok but i cannot see any disk on t
[10:19] <irctc292> yeap i am sure it all about uefi but dont know how to fix it :(
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> !uefi
[10:20] <irctc292> there is just /dev/sda n screen but there is no partition list when i click change or something installation screen is just giving up with error
[10:23] <reisio> tilerendering: http://www.washington.edu/computing/unix/permissions.html
[10:24] <faugusztin> tilerendering, reisio: or in case of filesystem with ACL support: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[10:25] <reisio> yeah acl is nice, especially if you want to deal with more than one group
[10:33] <Guillem_> Is there any (simple) way of controlling an standard phone-line from the computer?
[10:33] <bekks> Guillem_: You need a modem to do so.
[10:34] <nibbler> well, there is modems. but maybe you are looking for tapi stuff, dont know
[10:34] <grimeton> Guillem_: what exactly are you trying todo?
[10:35] <reisio> make it dance
[10:35]  * grimeton dances 8/-<
[10:35]  * grimeton dances 8\-<
[10:35] <Guillem_> I'm not trying to do anything :P. I am at the office and I have a phone at my side. I think it would be nice to control it from the computer (with headset conencted to the computer)
[10:36] <grimeton> Guillem_: depends on the phone and if it is made for that
[10:36] <grimeton> Guillem_: on some setups you control the phone via a link to the pbx
[10:36] <nibbler> Guillem_: easiest would be, if your phone was sip - you could just install a softphone and use it on your pc (networking issues to be sorted out probably)
[10:36] <Guillem_> I'm just curious, because this seems to be quite straight forward  but never seen about it...
[10:37] <reisio> it's not, really
[10:37] <reisio> analog<->digital interfaces rarely are
[10:37] <grimeton> Guillem_: if the setup is right
[10:37] <grimeton> Guillem_: voip phones are the best ones for things like that
[10:37] <grimeton> Guillem_: other phones have a serial connection to the pc
[10:38] <reisio> most phoneline modems are single use, too, and don't support all the "fancy" things you can do with a phone line
[10:39] <andry> there is still no way to get the unity bar to the bottom in >=12.04, right?
[10:40] <k1l> andry: right
[10:40] <andry> merci .. whatever, i will get used to it :P
[10:40] <reisio> andry: pretty sure there is
[10:40] <Guillem_> OK, guys. Thank for pointing all those facts. I was puzzled, now I'm still but have some rough ideas about it. The main one is that is its easier to make the phone dance than what I pretend :)
[10:41] <reisio> andry: look in the comments here https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/668415
[10:41] <andry> yea, had a little look into it a while back, thanks
[10:47] <flashUbun> I've just made a USB Installer of 13.10 and upon boot I get the error cannot mount /dev/loop0 (device not found). I've hashed the ISO I used and it's fine. Any ideas? Google isn't turning up anything useful.
[10:50] <cfhowlett> !saucy|flashUbun,   not supported here - use the other channel
[10:51] <faugusztin> flashUbun: in other words, ask it here on Thursday :P
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> flashUbun: or use a released ubuntu, like Precise :)
[10:52] <faugusztin> flashUbun: but it seems from the google that mostly it is from damaged installer medium, maybe your ISO is fine but your USB installer isn't
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> flashUbun: if google turns up blank, try duckduckgo
[10:55] <ypwong> can't upgrade to 13.10 on a 13.04 box with update-manager -d
[10:55] <Ben64> ypwong: 13.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[10:55] <k1l> ypwong: what does lsb_release -r give you?
[10:56] <ypwong> Ben64, ah, thanks
[10:56] <ypwong> k1l, 13.04
[10:57] <Linuxx> hello
[10:58] <Linuxx> could someone help me about the language support installation on linux lite ?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Linuxx: linux lite isnt supported here
[10:59] <Linuxx> oh i see
[10:59] <Linuxx> which channel than ?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> #linuxlite
[10:59] <Linuxx> ok thanx
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Linuxx: they have a channel here on freenode
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> haha 10 people
[11:00] <bekks> ActionParsnip: premium support staff.
[11:00] <Ben64> too many ubuntu derivatives :(
[11:02] <faugusztin> Ben64: the worst part is that most ubuntu derivates are "change logos, add one extra package to default install" :)
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> just people expect ubuntu to support all the stupid spinoffs, then they get angry when there is none
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> its stupid
[11:03] <Ben64> why not instead of making a distro type thing... make it a ppa
[11:05] <reisio> faugusztin: isn't that how Ubuntu started, re: Debian? :p
[11:06] <Ben64> reisio: funded by a billionaire :)
[11:06] <minimec> Linuxx: https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/install.html#language
[11:07] <reisio> Ben64: I wonder how many billionaires don't know how to fork a distro
[11:09] <rokka> Hello, can someone verify that 12.04 LTS alternative install .iso actually works? I have tried with 2 usb sticks and 2 different .iso images (+mac & normal): Always end up with corrupted files and installer stops
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> rokka: why would it not?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> rokka: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[11:12] <Snake2k> rokka: Exactly tell us how teh installer stops?
[11:13] <Snake2k> rokka: like, what happens when you boot from your usb?
[11:13] <rokka> ActionParsnip: Yes the md5sum matches
[11:13] <rokka> Snake2k: wait a bit.. i boot again
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: shuttleworth's net worth is 500 million usd, not a billionaire :)
[11:13] <Snake2k> Sure
[11:14] <cgtdk> "How to become a millionaire by working on open source: start out as a billionaire"
[11:15] <rokka> Snake2k: i can get past the keyboard detection.. then it fails at   [!!] Load installer components fomr CD. There was problem reading data from the CD-ROM.....
[11:16] <cgtdk> rokka: keyboard detection only or the whole keyboard configuration thing?
[11:16] <rokka> file is:   Retrieving crypto-modules-3.8.0-29-generic-di..
[11:17] <cgtdk> You can bypass detection by specifying your keyboard layout
[11:17] <rokka> detection works so why bypass
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> rokka: is this in Saucy?
[11:17] <cgtdk> Oh, I misread your message
[11:17] <cgtdk> sorry
[11:18] <rokka> ActionParsnip: i don't get your question
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> rokka: the package name looks new, or are you using a daily ISO?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> rokka: seems to be from a PPA possibly too
[11:18] <rokka> its 12.04 LTS _alternative_ installer
[11:19] <rokka> because i need to configure raid
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> rokka: cant the desktop ISO do that>
[11:19] <rokka> 12.0403
[11:20] <rokka> ubuntu-12.04.3-alternate-amd64.iso
[11:20] <rokka> at least the one on my cd doesn't
[11:20] <rokka> desktop
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> rokka: yeah just seen online :(
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> rokka: bah
[11:21] <rokka> can you verify the alternative installer problem?
[11:21] <rokka> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.3-alternate-amd64.iso
[11:23] <afshin> Hello
[11:25] <afshin> When the system want to suspend and some programs are still running, the linux alert that some programs are still runing. My quistion is how to suspend system without this alert?
[11:25] <Snake2k> rokka: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r
[11:25] <Snake2k> rokka: do those solutions work for you?
[11:26] <rokka> Snake2k: i'll try
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> afshin: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:27] <bluechaos> I need some help ( i need sourcelist update from 11.10 to 12.04 (Precise)
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | bluechaos
[11:27] <afshin> ActionParsnip: Linux Mint 15 Olivia \n \l
[11:27] <bluechaos> Thank you
[11:28] <bluechaos> let me see if I find some code to upgrade ubuntu
[11:29] <bluechaos> listen this is not helping me ( thouse page's show me how to do upgrate from manager I didn`t need manager for upgrade I have source.list (urls is out of support)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> afshin: not supported here
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !mint | afshin
[11:30] <bluechaos> I just need only Urls from source.list (available urls& lib /repostory ) to upgrade it
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> bluechaos: that is not how you upgrade ubuntu
[11:31] <bluechaos> I know how to upgrade it from manager but that don`t work told me is unsupported
[11:32] <bluechaos> becouse of this I need some urls something like this deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty main universe
[11:32] <bluechaos> available to upgrate my ubuntu !
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> bluechaos: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:32] <bluechaos> Ubuntu 11.04
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> bluechaos: then you need to upgrade to Oneiric first
[11:33] <tilerendering> hi what is the chmod syntax for granting read rights for a specific group ? not "one" gorup, but a specific one. is there a paremeter for which I can specify the group in ?
[11:33] <bluechaos> ok tell me source code
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> !eol | bluechaos
[11:33] <andreiiar> I have 2 network cards and configure the second one with the ip command but it gets reseted after some random time. I can see the network icon works on something. Why
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: chgrp the item to the group, then grant the group the desired access
[11:34] <memand> Hey guys, I'm trying to back something up from my server with rsync but I'm getting TERRIBLE speed I did an iperf on the server and got 746KB/s throughtput to this machine but I only get around 90KB/s with rsync (it's the same with scp and sftp btw)... ?_?
[11:35] <reisio> memand: turn your torrent client off
[11:35] <tilerendering> chgrp is like chown for groups ?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> tilerendering: yes, or you can use:  chown .groupname thing   to set the group using chown
[11:38] <memand> reisio: didn't help :/
[11:39] <osubuntu> hello
[11:40] <tilerendering> merci beaucoup
[11:40] <BlueGuitar> how do I disable cups and bluetooth and avahi-daemon from starting ?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> bluechaos: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:43] <tilerendering> can I set permissions for the service xxx start commands at user/service level ? i.e.: I want sudoers to be able to start all services, whereas I want the developer group to be able to start and stop specific services only ?
[11:44] <reisio> tilerendering: you can do anything, read /etc/sudoers
[11:44] <tilerendering> thanks
[11:44] <lamiska> hello can anybody help me? i have ubuntu 13.04 installed and it mostly boots into blank screen (although i can hear boot sound in background) to get into X i have to restart it several times
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> bluechaos: its a simple command in terminal
[11:46] <BlueGuitar> ActionParsnip: i want it automatic because I dont have bt and never use printer
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: fine, what is the output of the command please....
[11:47] <bluechaos> ActionParsnip,
[11:47] <bluechaos> can u be more specific please
[11:47] <bluechaos> ActionParsnip> bluechaos: its a simple command in terminal
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> bluechaos: open a terminal, run the command, copy the output, paste it here
[11:48] <bluechaos> maybe u didn't understand me
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> bluechaos: once I have the output I can give a solution
[11:48] <BlueGuitar> ActionParsnip: are you talking to bluechaos or blueguitar
[11:48] <bluechaos> this source is out of
[11:48] <bluechaos> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME main restricted universe multiverse
[11:48] <bluechaos> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[11:48] <bluechaos> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME-security main restricted universe multiverse
[11:48] <bluechaos> #deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[11:48] <FloodBot1> bluechaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: was for you, to stop services
[11:49] <bluechaos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6235568/
[11:50] <BlueGuitar> ActionParsnip: from what I understand I can put a copy of .conf as .override in init  but doesnt seem to work
[11:50] <BlueGuitar> bluechaos: you need to clear the cache
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: change the word 'CODENAME' in your file.
[11:51] <bluechaos> how to do that
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> bluechaos: its a text file, you can edit a text file....
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> bluechaos: what is the output of the command please?
[11:51] <BlueGuitar> bluechaos: try sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: its one line, so can be pasted here without issue
[11:52] <BlueGuitar> what command ? ActionParsnip
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: his file needs editting as s/he has put CODENAME instead of the actual codename of the release
[11:52] <bluechaos> ActionParsnip,  the same error
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: cat /etc/issue
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: you need to change CODENAME to the actual codename of your release, like 'oneiric' or 'natty' etc
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> bluechaos: ^
[11:53] <BlueGuitar> ActionParsnip:  you are talking to 2 people
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: yes, tab fail. what is the output of the command please...
[11:53] <bluechaos> I gave that command line is the same error I need available source code to upgrade that urls is not available from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[11:53] <BlueGuitar> bluechaos: nm that - what ActionParsnip  said - your PPA are listing wrong distro
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: i found this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMWy66XkDmU
[11:54] <bluechaos> maybe i paste some new keys intro terminal
[11:54] <BlueGuitar> bluechaos: are you upgrading the distro the "wrong way"?
[11:54] <bluechaos> No I cannot upgrade it ...
[11:54] <bluechaos> I have empty source.list
[11:55] <BlueGuitar> bluechaos: what distro are you using ?
[11:55] <bluechaos> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:55] <bluechaos> this one
[11:55] <BlueGuitar> ?
[11:55] <BlueGuitar> bluechaos:  you are using ubuntu what raring, precise, ?
[11:55] <bluechaos> bluechaos@bluechaos-EP41-UD3L:~$ sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list^Cbluechaos@bluechaos-EP41-UD3L:~$ cat /etc/issue
[11:55] <bluechaos> Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l
[11:55] <bluechaos> bluechaos@bluechaos-EP41-UD3L:~$
[11:56] <karlo> guys, when I span one window across 2+ monitors, the app menu on the top bar does not show up. Is it a known issue? Is there a shortcut to bring up the app menu? Alt+F2 opens up unity for me.
[11:56] <BlueGuitar> ActionParsnip: interesting. does that work in mint?
[11:56] <cfhowlett> 11.04 ... ?
[11:56] <bluechaos> yes
[11:57] <bluechaos> I must to upgrade it to 12.04 or higher
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> bluechaos: are you using mint?
[11:57] <bluechaos> This version is out of support
[11:57] <bluechaos> ubuntu
[11:57] <BlueGuitar> bluechaos: you cant just upgrade like that - it will F'up all kinds
[11:58] <BlueGuitar> bluechaos: backup your home to external drive and clean install new distro
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: again, what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue   some old versions work slightly differently. I have asked .,...
[11:58] <BlueGuitar> Linux Mint 15 Olivia \n \l
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: not supported here
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> !mint | BlueGuitar
[11:58] <bluechaos> yea I have a problem with that belive me when i've installed , I just install in entire hdd I don`t have any partition !
[11:59] <bluechaos> to save home folder (making a backup)
[11:59] <BlueGuitar> ActionParsnip: it is based on ubuntu and upstart came from ubuntu
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: none of the 'ubuntu based' distros are supported here
[11:59] <BlueGuitar> ActionParsnip: ok understood
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: you arent using ubuntu, so its not supported here
[12:00] <BlueGuitar> bluechaos: your version is no longer supported so wont work.  You have to backup to external and clean install new version
[12:02] <bluechaos> talk latter ..
[12:02] <bluechaos> i must to go
[12:02] <BlueGuitar> bluechaos: good luck
[12:06] <chegney> what is the default wm for ubuntu desktop?
[12:07] <BlueGuitar> unity ?
[12:07] <chegney> its really slow on my netbook whatever it is
[12:07] <Myrtti> don't use it then.
[12:07] <gordonjcp> chegney: compiz
[12:07] <cgtdk> BlueGuitar: That's not a WM
[12:07] <gordonjcp> chegney: have you got accelerated graphics?
[12:07] <BlueGuitar> ok - lol
[12:07] <foofoobar> Hi. In a bash script I call a command which outputs: 'HorizTwoFingerScroll    = 1'. I want to test if the value is 1 or 2
[12:07] <foofoobar> How do I do this?
[12:07] <Touhou11> chegney: You might like to try XFCE, or use the Xubuntu distribution. It also has the advantage of not coming with adverts
[12:07] <fidel> chegney: xfce might be worth a try on older boxes
[12:08] <BlueGuitar> cgtdk:  then what is - gnome3?
[12:08] <cgtdk> BlueGuitar: Gnome is a desktop environment
[12:08] <cgtdk> using the Gnome shell interface
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> foofoobar  better ask in #bash
[12:08] <chegney> yeah, I def need to switch, does it make sense to do a reinstall with a diff ubuntu build?
[12:08] <cgtdk> Untiy is just an interface for Gnome
[12:09] <foofoobar> ok
[12:09] <chegney> I just installed this thing so there's not much on it or configured yet
[12:09] <Touhou11> chegney: You don't need to reinstall, you can just install the XFCE desktop and then choose that at login
[12:09] <fidel> chegney: in case of xfce - just solve it via apt
[12:10] <chegney> another question, I put the thing into suspend last night and when I opened the lid this morning, the screen was all garbled and I could only reboot
[12:10] <chegney> driver issue?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> chegney  maybe you need more swap space
[12:12] <streulma> I have an old PC (Dual Core, 2.5ghz with 4gb ram), how can I make Ubuntu faster? Is 12.04 faster then 13.04 ?
[12:12]  * Touhou11 shakes his head at what is now considered old
[12:12] <fidel> streulma: try to locate what eats your resources
[12:12] <chegney> MonkeyDust, I just ran the graphical install from the disk, not sure what that sets up for swap space
[12:12] <streulma> fidel: tomcat :)
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> Touhou11  6 months = old for the youngest generation :)
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> streulma: if you use a lighter desktop like LXDE it will be faster
[12:13] <faugusztin> streulma: define "faster". SSD usually helps any computer :)
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> or max your motherboards ram
[12:14] <faugusztin> streulma: but need for more CPU performance is usually solved by better CPU or overclocking :)
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> then you will cache lots of disk stuff rather than slow hdds
[12:14] <BlueGuitar> faugusztin: how much better is SSD ?
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> chegney  what's the output of the command     free   <-- use pastebin to show us
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> BlueGuitar: seek times are a lot faster
[12:14] <faugusztin> BlueGuitar: access time of typical hard drive - 10-15ms. access time of SSD <0.1ms
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> faugusztin: its still sata, so 300Mb/s to the board ;)
[12:15] <BlueGuitar> ActionParsnip:  faugusztin  wow -  I notice when doing reads/writes at full that my cpu is not at 100 so..
[12:15] <faugusztin> ActionParsnip: sequential read yes, but the typical random read is not that simple :)
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> faugusztin: try a PCI-X SSD, several gb/s now that is speed
[12:16] <cgtdk> can't SATA 3 do 6 Gbps?
[12:16] <faugusztin> cgtdk: yes
[12:16] <faugusztin> cgtdk: still not 1GB/s+ like most PCI-E SSD
[12:17] <cgtdk> PCI-E is definitely faster
[12:17] <faugusztin> but price is in different region too :P
[12:17] <cgtdk> OCZ has one they claim can read at 1500 MB/s
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> cgtdk: yes, 6gigabits, 600Mb/s
[12:17] <afshin> I have a bash script file and I want put a command that run vlc and vlc open a file but I don't know homw to
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> cgtdk: http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8142/~/difference-between-sata-i,-sata-ii-and-sata-iii
[12:18] <cgtdk> ActionParsnip: That's 600 MB/s, not Mb/s
[12:18] <cgtdk> b = bit, B = byte
[12:18] <streulma> afshin: vlc /home...
[12:18] <BlueGuitar> afshin: open a file when?
[12:18] <BlueGuitar> afshin:  check out alarm-clock-applet
[12:18] <bonhoeffer> is there a way to view a font (ttf eot etc) in ubuntu
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> cgtdk: yes, but the interface will give 600Mb/s
[12:19] <DaVinciIT> hi all. UbuntuGnome. How to update to 13.04->13.10 ? thank you.
[12:19] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: use font viewer
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> bonhoeffer: isnt there a font viewer in the default install
[12:19] <cgtdk> "The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 600MB/s"
[12:19] <cgtdk> that's 600 megabytes per second
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> DaVinciIT: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[12:19] <BlueGuitar> what is avahi-daemon?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> BlueGuitar  avahi is for wifi
[12:19] <bonhoeffer> ActionParsnip, not that i can find
[12:19] <DaVinciIT> ActionParsnip:  thank you!
[12:19] <afshin> I inseet this command in my script: vlc /home/afsin/channels.conf but this dose not work
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/06/kingspec_multicore_mc1s81m2t_2tb_pcie_ssd/   3Gigabytes per second, or 600Megabytes for SATA-3
[12:20] <BlueGuitar> MonkeyDust: that it was for printer and file sharing - i need it for wifi?
[12:20] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: install font viewer
[12:21] <cgtdk> ActionParsnip: What?
[12:21] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: very straightforward if you want to check a font.  also check site dafonts
[12:21] <bonhoeffer> hmm .. . looks like it is installed, but i can't find it  -- working it, thanks . . .
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> !info  gnome-specimen
[12:21] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: its not in menu?
[12:21] <bonhoeffer> BlueGuitar, no -- not coming up
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> BlueGuitar  i correct myself: avahi is for cabled networking too
[12:22] <bonhoeffer> ActionParsnip, i'll look at it
[12:22] <faugusztin> BlueGuitar: http://imgur.com/5YfpH6L <-- notice the access times, good luck with that on mechanical hard drive :)
[12:22] <Reacto> How do I install 13.10 over 13.04 when I dual boot with Win8?
[12:22] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: gnome-font-viewer     in terminal
[12:22] <Reacto> There's no option for upgrading
[12:22] <Reacto> do I have to delete the ubuntu partitions + the grub partition?
[12:22] <fidel> Reacto: no - you upgrade ;)
[12:22] <Reacto> ye but how
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Reacto: 13.10 support in #ubuntu+1 please
[12:23] <faugusztin> Reacto: can't you wait for official upgrade on Thursday ?
[12:23] <BlueGuitar> faugusztin: lol - thats fast
[12:23] <Reacto> I need to reinstall ubuntu anyway
[12:23] <Reacto> it's bugged
[12:23] <fidel> Reacto: as long as it isnt official out - you might need a special switch to trigger it. but see the +1 hint
[12:23] <wadie> problem: I can't see the video of any file. not working on vlc or movie player. I'm using unity 2d. only when I restart the computer I can watch a video or to but then only audio
[12:23] <chegney> so wgetpaste is not available on ubuntu? alternative?
[12:24] <BlueGuitar> wadie: what video type?
[12:24] <wadie> anything
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> chegney: what does it do?
[12:24] <wadie> mkv,avi
[12:25] <bonhoeffer> BlueGuitar, closer -- but i get Could not load face 'file:///home/bonhoeffer/Sites/ptp_nova/fonts/glyphicons-halflings-regular.ttf'
[12:25] <chegney> commandline paste to a pastebin site
[12:25] <bonhoeffer> does this mean my fonts are corrupted?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> !info pastebinit | chegney
[12:25] <Bretos`> hello guys! I am looking for a way to boot linux livecd over PXE. Archlinux installer works OOTB, but I need something with X. Any suggestions? As I've seen, ubuntu  can't be booted over pxe out of the box
[12:26] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: on all of them or just that one?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Bretos`: Ive seen pxe installs of Ubuntu
[12:26] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer:  does dashes might be a problem
[12:26] <bonhoeffer> just that one -- i'm redownloading
[12:26] <BlueGuitar> *those bonhoeffer
[12:27] <bonhoeffer> works now -- thanks!
[12:28] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: was it the dashes?
[12:28] <rokka> Snake2k: managed to install somehow with the link you provided: its seems to install a desktop set of packages..i would like i server installation.. any ideas howto uninstall desktop related packages?
[12:28] <chegney> ubottu: weird, dpkg -l *paste* doesn't find that package
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> rokka: uninstall xorg and the rest of deps with be marked for removal
[12:28] <rokka> oh cool
[12:28] <bonhoeffer> BlueGuitar, no -- bad file
[12:28] <bonhoeffer> or new file worked
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> chegney: try:  apt-cache show pastebinit
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> chegney: dpkg will only show installed packages
[12:29] <chegney> ah, okay
[12:29] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: where did you get your font?  dafonts?
[12:29] <chegney> new to apt, came from archlinux
[12:29] <bonhoeffer> BlueGuitar, bootstrap -- from github
[12:31] <chegney> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6235678/
[12:31] <chegney> output of free
[12:31] <Reacto> Does OS-uninstaller remove grub too?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> chegney: free -m | pastebinit
[12:31] <Reacto> or do I still have to get a win8 disk and repair the mbr
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> chegney: easier to read :)
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Reacto: what are you trying to do?
[12:32] <Reacto> clean install ubuntu
[12:32] <Reacto> but I've got win8 installed too
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Reacto: then why would you need anything but the install CD?
[12:33] <Reacto> to remove grub?
[12:33] <chegney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6235691/
[12:33] <chegney> ActionParsnip: my screen is all garbled after waking from suspend
[12:33] <chegney> only option is to reboot
[12:33] <BlueGuitar> got to go - ty all
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> chegney: try switching to TTY1 then back to TTY7 (desktop)
[12:38] <chegney> tty2 was garbled too, didnt try 7
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:41] <wadie> anyone ?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> wadie, what?
[12:42] <ionelmc> how can i download a source of a package but from another repository - do i need to add said repository ?
[12:42] <bekks> ionelmc: Yes.
[12:42] <ionelmc> how can i add it without it affecting my packages ?
[12:42] <ionelmc> *my os
[12:42] <ionelmc> i only want it for 1 source package
[12:42] <bekks> ionelmc: Add it, run apt-get update, download the source, remove the ppa.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> ionelmc: add the repo, pull down the package, remove the repo
[12:43] <karlo> when I span one window across 2+ monitors, the app menu on the top bar does not show up. Is it a known issue?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> karlo: check for bugs on launchpad
[12:47] <ionelmc> what if the said repo is the main (i'm running precise and i want the sources from saucy) ?
[12:47] <ionelmc> actually, i don't know if the package is in `main` - how do i find out?
[12:47] <Roman__> ehm.. Hi. I recently used Ubuntu Software Center (always used aptitude before) and signed in with my google account. Now I got permanent "Ubuntu — Full Account Access" in account preferences. If I revoke it, it just appears again some time later.
[12:48] <Roman__> I can change, the password
[12:48] <flan_suse> Anyone here using an Intel HD with SNA acceleration?
[12:48] <Roman__> But it's just wrong.
[12:49] <PLMg> hello, I have issues connecting to my ubuntu server. Iptables are "disabled" and it has a static ip. Any sugestions?
[12:49] <cfhowlett> !anyone|flan_suse,
[12:50] <cfhowlett> ionelmc, you could wait a couple of weeks for the official release of the currently unsupported saucy ...
[12:50] <PLMg> My main goal is to gain ssh access to it
[12:50] <cfhowlett> ionelmc, for package info run apt-cache policy packagename
[12:51] <flan_suse> I have Intel HD graphics (System76). I am using the latest drivers from the xorg-edgers PPA, which uses SNA acceleration by default. However, if I use SNA, I get tearing. If I use UXA, I get no tearing at all. Here's the strange part. SNA *is* faster than UXA, but it suffers from tearing. So, I enable the TearFree option, and now the tearing is gone under SNA, but I get sluggish performance...
[12:51] <flan_suse> Is there any way to use Intel HD graphics, with SNA acceleration and no tearing, but without the performance hit? Everywhere I look, people seem to be doing just fine with SNA, and they boast how it's so much faster than UXA.
[12:52] <flan_suse> Any problems with tearing is "solved" by using TearFree. But in my case, this only slows things down, which is not worth it.
[12:53] <ragusource> Hey guys, does anyone know how to add a catchall email address on iredmail?
[12:53] <bluechaos> ActionParsnip,
[12:53] <bluechaos> ok i'm back
[12:54] <bluechaos> can u give me a full tutorial how to install ubuntu from iso
[12:54] <theromi> Quick question: Is there no release candidate of saucy yet, or am I just to blind to find it?
[12:54] <flan_suse> theromi: Beta 2 is the "release candidate".
[12:54] <bisam> part
[12:54] <theromi> flan_suse: Okay, Thanks.
[12:55] <flan_suse> theromi: After Beta 2, official release comes out.
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !install|bluechaos,
[12:55] <flan_suse> theromi: That's how Ubuntu does it. Not all distros follow the same release policies.
[12:55] <theromi> flan_suse: Mh, the shedule mentions a release candidate, though.
[12:55] <theromi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[12:56] <bluechaos> cfhowtell nothing help full
[12:56] <philinux> theromi: that will just be the milestone daily build iso on the day
[12:57] <bluechaos> this version of ubuntu cannot see my DVD-wirter also I don`t have a external hdd ( usb eather ) ..
[12:57] <chegney> exit
[12:58] <philinux> theromi: just get the current live from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[12:58] <theromi> philinux: Thanks.
[12:59] <flan_suse> theromi: I think Beta 2 is the final image before the official.
[12:59] <flan_suse> Unless it was changed again.
[13:00] <scruz> hi. i'm connected to a precise server which allows public-key authentication, so i'm not prompted for a password. i've installed postgresql, and it's running, but i cannot run any command as postgres with sudo - i'm prompted for a password. is there anything i can do? i'm trying to set up a web app.
[13:01] <Touhou11> There's usually a release candidate before the official
[13:01] <philinux> Touhou11: not for a couple of cycles there hasn't
[13:01] <Touhou11> philinux: That's worrying, implies less testing
[13:02] <philinux> it's just a milestone daily live now
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> scruz as far as i know with postgres, you must be on the postrgres user to go anything in cli by default: try: sudo su postrgres
[13:02] <jrib> scruz: say exactly what you are running
[13:02] <philinux> not worrying as there's more testing now
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> try: sudo su postgres    even
[13:03] <scruz> ubuntu 12.04 lts, and i can restart the postgresql service with sudo without a prompt, but once i try to do anything as the postgres user, i get the password prompt.
[13:03] <philinux> Touhou11: they call it an RC but it's really the daily live on the day http://qa.ubuntu.com/2013/10/09/testers-assemble-final-rc-testing-is-here/
[13:03] <edinny> I configured a VPN in lucid. How can I start it from the command line?
[13:04] <jrib> scruz: say exactly the command that you are running...
[13:04] <scruz> sudo -u postgres createdb …
[13:04] <jrib> scruz: why do you not expect a password prompt?
[13:05] <scruz> postgres user account defaults to not having a password, iirc. ran same command today elsewhere, and it worked.
[13:05] <BluesKaj> edinny. whynot use NM?
[13:05] <edinny> NM?
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> scruz the password is for the account you are logged in as
[13:05] <jrib> scruz: you're running a command with sudo.  By default sudo will require you to input your user's password.
[13:05] <BluesKaj> network manager
[13:05] <streulma> does someone have the Dell Windows 7 Professional 32bit DVD without SP1 ? I lost mine
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> sudo is requesting the password, not postgres
[13:06] <edinny> BluesKaj: can nm run from the command line?
[13:06] <cfhowlett> streulma, download it from digital river ... yuou
[13:06] <scruz> jrib: i'm using public key authentication. i don't know the password.
[13:06] <jrib> scruz: then you cannot sudo.
[13:06] <cfhowlett> streulma, you'll need that legal authorizatioon code however
[13:06] <jrib> scruz: ask your sysadmin to reset your password
[13:06] <hsnmck> Hi, I'm using lubuntu, I just installed vim-gnome and it installed other dependencies like libgnome, how can I undo what I just did. I mean, I want to remove vim-gnome with all the dependencies that were installed, apt-get remove does that?
[13:06] <Reacto> Is there a command I can do from the live iso to find where the grub partition is installed?
[13:06] <scruz> jrib: i have installed packages today without entering a password.
[13:07] <Reacto> Thought I removed it, but it still boots the grub rescue terminal
[13:07] <jrib> scruz: not possible by default.  But you could setup sudo to not prompt for a password for certain commands.
[13:07] <bekks> Reacto: Grub is installed in the MBR of a disk or at the boot sector of a partition. Removing the package doesnt affect that.
[13:07] <hitsujiTMO> scruz: the server may be configured to allow you to run apt-get without a password,
[13:08] <Touhou11> hsnmck: There's a command which removes "orphaned" packages, left over from removals. I forget.
[13:08] <BluesKaj> edinny.not sure what the path is
[13:08] <MrElg> q
[13:08] <cgtdk> autoremove
[13:09] <edinny> BluesKaj: the path to what?
[13:09] <hsnmck> Touhou11, cgtdk, apt-get remove --auto-remove ?
[13:09] <scruz> hitsujiTMO: okay, thanks. i've already told the sysadmin, but i googled and came here to see if i could get anything else done.
[13:10] <scruz> jrib: thanks
[13:10] <esseks> Hi! I'd like to install Ubuntu on a PC where is installed Debian Wheezy. The computer is quite old and cannot boot from a pendrive, but Grub is already at its place so: is it possible to chain load the installer on a USB key from Grub?
[13:10] <hitsujiTMO> hsnmck: apt-get autoremove
[13:10] <esseks> I have no spare CDs around...
[13:10] <hsnmck> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[13:11] <BluesKaj> edinny.path tp the NM executable , besides using a gui is much easier if you're going connect to vpn server
[13:11] <edinny> /usr/bin/nm
[13:11] <edinny>  nm - list symbols from object files?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> well, /usr/bin is the first to come to mind of course , but that doesn't work
[13:15] <innershows> #ubuntu-cn ubuntu
[13:17] <innershows> ping timeout
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !ping|innershows,
[13:19] <ashoksahoo> hello every one, Greetings
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> esseks: does it have a floppy drive?
[13:21] <ashoksahoo> so I was installing ubuntu netinstall
[13:21] <ashoksahoo> and I slept without keeping the laptop in charge
[13:22] <esseks> ActionParsnip, yes.
[13:22] <ashoksahoo> and when I woke up, battry was empty, I am assuming, just the grub part was pending , anyway I can restore grub without installing
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> esseks: there is a floppy image on pendrivelinux to boot to first, it will then boot usb :)
[13:24] <edinny> is nmcli available on Lucid?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> edinny: i believe so, yes
[13:25] <edinny> ActionParsnip: do you know what package contains nmcli?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> !find nmcli
[13:28] <edinny> network-manager is already the newest version
[13:28] <vega> Hello
[13:29] <edinny>  sudo locate nmcli finds nothing
[13:29] <BluesKaj> edinny. nm isn'r exactly cli friendly
[13:29] <Guest80043> How do I uninstall gnome from Unity?
[13:30] <edinny> BluesKaj: got to find it before I use it!
[13:30] <Touhou11> Guest80043: Unity contains difference pieces from the GNOME environment, so not sure it's possible
[13:30] <cfhowlett> Guest80043, slow down.  gnome was replaced by unity so ... your query makes no sense
[13:30] <BluesKaj> edinny. but why?
[13:31] <edinny> BluesKaj: so, how do I use it if it is not on my machine?
[13:31] <edinny> $ sudo nmcli
[13:31] <edinny> sudo: nmcli: command not found
[13:31] <Guest80043> I installed gnome from the software manager. Is there any way to remove the environment itself?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Guest80043, go back to software center and delete
[13:32] <hitsujiTMO> Guest80043: sudo apt-get remove gnome && sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:32] <Pici> edinny: If the network-manager package is installed, then nmcli should be in /usr/bin/nmcli
[13:33] <Guest80043> Thank you for your help
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Guest80043, best o fluck
[13:37] <edinny> nmcli seems to be broken on Lucid
[13:37] <ikonia> I don't think so
[13:37] <ikonia> why do you think it's broken
[13:37] <edinny> It is not there
[13:37] <ikonia> errr that's "missing" not broken
[13:37] <vega_> How do I uninstall kde environment?
[13:37] <ikonia> and I suspect if it was missing, lots of people would have complained about it
[13:38] <edinny> How do I reinstall the network manager?
[13:38] <rhumbot> hi all. i have a harddrive with 2 partition, each has a version of ubuntu installed. can i remove one of the partitions and ?add? it to my main partition?
[13:38] <ikonia> edinny: remove the package and re-install it
[13:38] <Xethron> I successfully installed Ubuntu 13.10. While booting the live CD, I had to activate Proprietary drivers for my Wireless. This worked fine and I was able to run the installation with Internet access...
[13:38] <Pici> edinny: What release of Ubuntu are you running and is the network-manager package installed?
[13:39] <edinny> Lucid. It is installed
[13:39] <Xethron> After installation, I was once again unable to connect. I opened up "Software & Updates", went over to Additional Drivers, selected "Broadcom Corporation BCM43227 802.11b/g/n", and clicked Apply Changes
[13:40] <Xethron> Exactly like I did in the Live CD
[13:40] <Xethron> However, after that, it selects the "Do not use this device" again...
[13:40] <Xethron> And I can't seem to access the wireless
[13:40] <Xethron> Any ideas?
[13:40] <moppy> Hello. I wonder if anyone can tell me where to look? I lost sound on my raring desktop. It works fine on login (lightDM?) but once the desktop is up, all the meters and volume controls seem to work but there is no audio
[13:41] <irenicus09> hi guys
[13:41] <Pici> edinny: It looks like nmcli didn't exist in lucid.
[13:41] <irenicus09> anyone know what the service dns_masq is?
[13:41] <Xethron> So, in short: I can't seem to select WiFi Proprietary drivers for Broadcom Corporation BCM43227 802.11b/g/n
[13:41] <irenicus09> it seems to be listening on certain ports etc. how do I get rid of it ty
[13:41] <edinny> Pici: Any other way to start a VPN from my already made configuration without it?
[13:42] <moppy> irenicus09: perhaps this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnsmasq
[13:42] <moppy> oh better: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq
[13:43] <jrib> irenicus09: why do you want to get rid of it?
[13:44] <Pici> edinny: I'm not sure, sorry.
[13:44] <moppy> it appears to eb  i the package "dnsmasq"
[13:44] <irenicus09> jrib: I'm not sure how I'm going to benefit form it etc. besides I don't like the idea of a running service that I don't really need
[13:44] <edinny> how do I remove the medibuntu repository? I can edit the file, but prefer not to
[13:44] <BluesKaj> !dnsmasq | irenicus09
[13:44] <moppy> i wouldnt remove it, it's installed on my system so it's probably essential
[13:44] <cfhowlett> edinny, you can do that in software center settings > software sources
[13:45] <edinny> cfhowlett: from the command line?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> !info dnsmasq
[13:45] <BluesKaj> irenicus09.^
[13:45] <cfhowlett> edinny, sudo gedit apt/sources.list  if I recall correctly
[13:46] <edinny> I knew that. thought there was a command
[13:46] <DJones> edinny: cfhowlett gksudo rather than sudo though
[13:46] <moppy> So anyone have any idea why I might not have sound ? Everything seems to work but no audio. It works during the login screen. I assume its threfore a desktop component not working?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> edinny, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    IS  a command.  open the file, delete the references or comment them to inactive with a * prefix
[13:47] <cfhowlett> DJones, for gedit?  OK
[13:47] <edinny> I renamed the file in sources.list.d
[13:47] <irenicus09> BluesKaj: thanks...I guess since it's a caching proxy it's gonna speed things up right
[13:47] <DJones> cfhowlett: Yeah, for any graphical based apps, sudo doesn't always set the right environment varioables
[13:47] <DJones> !gksudo | cfhowlett
[13:47] <irenicus09> guess I'll keep it
[13:48] <cfhowlett> DJones, good to know.
[13:49] <irenicus09> Also I noticed this other service running: gvfsd-http is that because of the package manager
[13:49] <irenicus09> I mean  software center
[13:50] <BluesKaj> irenicus09. supposedly , I've used dnsmasq in the past but never noticed much difference  speedwise
[13:50] <irenicus09> BluesKaj: I think on slower connections it would make a difference cos they'd be able to skip already downloaded contented from being fetched etc.
[13:50] <jrib> irenicus09: it doesn't cache by default
[13:51] <irenicus09> jrib: how do I enable the cache-ing featur
[13:51] <irenicus09> feature*
[13:51] <jrib> irenicus09: i don't know.  Did the wiki have intsructions?
[13:53] <edinny> nmcli problem solved. needed to add repostitory network-manager-trunk-lucid.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> irenicus09. since I started using NM again I haven't bothered with dnsmasq , and my connection is a plain jane adsl which is pretty slow by the latest stds
[13:54] <edinny> ...also needed to remove outdated medibuntu repository
[13:55] <cfhowlett> edinny, maybe you said why, but WHY are you on lucid?  eol on the desktop you know ...
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !lucid
[13:56] <irenicus09> BluesKaj: hmm...I guess then it doesnt make much of a difference
[13:56] <edinny> cfhowlett: I have been asking how to use COMMAND LINE commands. Waiting for next LTS before I upgrade
[13:56] <BluesKaj> irenicus09. well ,not here anyway
[13:56] <cfhowlett> edinny, you mean ... 12.04 IS the next LTS ...
[13:56] <tilerendering> this is totally strange
[13:57] <tilerendering> I have 2 users
[13:57] <vega_> Hi when I installed kde it changed my defualt login screen to kubuntu style how do I change it back to ubuntu defualt?
[13:57] <osubuntu> hello but how can i change system locale?
[13:57] <tilerendering> one is in 3 groups, the other one is in the same 3 groups PLUS the group sudo
[13:57] <tilerendering> the first one can access the tomcat directory
[13:57] <tilerendering> the second cant
[13:57] <osubuntu> do i have to export LANG and LANGUAGE?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> vega_, logout.  click the ubuntu gear to choose a different environment. login
[13:57] <tilerendering> although he is in the same group as the first one, plus in the sudo group
[13:57] <tilerendering> any ideas ?
[13:58] <osubuntu> ubuntu gear turns out to be galaxy gear xD
[13:58] <edinny> Waiting for 14.04.
[13:58] <cfhowlett> edinny, cool
[13:58] <streulma> is there a rescue cd to recover files from ntfs ?
[13:58] <osubuntu> edinny, you have to wait more than 2147483647 seconds
[13:58] <Wiz_KeeD> guys
[13:59] <cfhowlett> osubuntu, no idea what that means but then I'm in Ubuntustudio/xfce
[13:59] <vega_> Thanks cfh but that's not my problem. Whenever I boot up my computer the login screen is kde styled, I want it to be ubuntu styled like the original one
[13:59] <Wiz_KeeD> How do I do /etc/init.d/apach2 restart over ssh on a remote server?
[13:59] <osubuntu> cfhowlett, how can I change the system locale?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> streulma: you can use foremost
[13:59] <cfhowlett> streulma, just boot your ubuntu cd and rescue away
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> streulma: why do you not have a backup?
[13:59] <osubuntu> default is Korean but i want to change it into English
[13:59] <cfhowlett> osubuntu, don't know how to do that from the command line ... sorry
[13:59] <robotti> hello!
[13:59] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[14:00] <osubuntu> Command line is super convinient to geeks xD
[14:00] <robotti> how to set up multi-seat system with nvidia and intel gpu?
[14:00] <edinny> osubuntu: Give me a break. Got rid of all my RHEL 3 and 4 machines!
[14:00] <Snake2k> Wiz_KeeD: sudo service apache2 restart
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: anyone what?
[14:00] <robotti> I am using closed source nvidia driver with nvidia gpu
[14:00] <Snake2k> I think that works
[14:00] <Wiz_KeeD> Snake2k, over ssh
[14:00] <Wiz_KeeD> on a remote server
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> robotti: did you install bumblebee
[14:00] <Wiz_KeeD> one command
[14:01] <robotti> ActionParsnip: not yet
[14:01] <vega_> how do I change my login screen to ubuntu defualt?
[14:01] <osubuntu> edinny, then you must wait another 4294967296 seconds xD
[14:01] <hitsujiTMO> osubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale   look at /etc/default/locale or update-locale
[14:01] <robotti> ActionParsnip: bumblebee is needed to use multiseat system?
[14:01] <osubuntu> sudo vim /etc/default/locale ?
[14:01] <robotti> ActionParsnip: I want set system with two users same time
[14:02] <osubuntu> hitsujiTMO, tHanKs
[14:02] <robotti> that is able to handle two users
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> robotti: its needed to handle optimus
[14:02] <Xethron> I can't seem to select WiFi Proprietary drivers for Broadcom Corporation BCM43227 802.11b/g/n on Ubuntu 13.10. It worked in the Live CD, but doesn't work after installation
[14:02] <osubuntu> btw is this channel for only ubuntu servers? excluding ubuntu desktop or ubuntu touch?
[14:02] <Snake2k> Wiz_KeeD: connect as root@whatever, then /etc/init.d/apache2 stop, then /etc/init.d/apache2 start, I don't know how to get it done with one command
[14:02] <Snake2k> Wiz_KeeD: maybe use &&
[14:02] <robotti> ActionParsnip: my computer is not laptop
[14:03] <Wiz_KeeD> ssh ip /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[14:03] <robotti> ActionParsnip: does it matter?
[14:03] <Snake2k> vega_: lightdm
[14:03] <osubuntu> robotti, is it desktop?
[14:03] <Wiz_KeeD> seems to work but I do not have permission by default so I would have to exclude this command from sudo, can anyone help with that?
[14:03] <osubuntu> Wiz KeeD, you must be in the sudoers list.
[14:03] <robotti> osubuntu: yes. I have intel igpu HD 3000 and nvidia gtx 460
[14:04] <osubuntu> robotti, but i have laptop :P
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> robotti
[14:04] <osubuntu> Wiz KeeD, if you're not in the sudoers list (sudo group), the incident will be reported D:
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> robotti: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[14:04] <vega_> How do I switch from lightdm to something else?
[14:04] <Wiz_KeeD> I am in sudoers
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> but it asks for password and for this to work in one command over ssh i would have to remove that
[14:05] <robotti> hitsujiTMO: should I set two X servers?
[14:05] <robotti> hitsujiTMO: one for intel and one for nvidia?
[14:05] <osubuntu> Wiz KeeD, than type sudo -s, passwd and set root's password xD
[14:05] <robotti> one for using nvidia closed source driver and one for intel open source driver?
[14:06] <osubuntu> Wiz KeeD, then you would be able to login into root and become root of a plant
[14:06] <k1l> osubuntu: stop that. that is no recommended in here
[14:06] <hitsujiTMO> robotti: that should not be required
[14:06] <zykotick9> !noroot | Wiz_KeeD osubuntu
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: you can add the command into sudoers so that a password is not needed for that command for a particular user group
[14:07] <osubuntu> oh i see thx zykotick9
[14:07] <osubuntu> !root
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: you can do it a lot sleeker than enabling root, please dont advise users how to break their OS
[14:07] <osubuntu> was that advice?!
[14:07] <osubuntu> i thought he was asking that..must be my mistake sorry D:
[14:08] <osubuntu> !wfm
[14:08] <Snake2k> vega_: install gdm, kdm, slim or mdm, whichever one you want, then do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <new display manager>" like for configuring gdm you do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: giving users commands......yes, that's advise
[14:08] <jasabella> is vi's commands supposed to emulate other shell utilities and vice versa or is the system set up this way? is this just a happy coincidence?
[14:08] <r7_> I installed Xubuntu on BTRFS filesystem. And I have this error at startup: "sparse file not found, press any key to continue"
[14:08] <osubuntu> command = advice = recommand
[14:08] <osubuntu> so i see that commands are just advice. thanks for that
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: vi's commands are pretty much standard across all distros. That's the beauty of vi
[14:08] <vega_> Thank you Snake2k
[14:09] <Snake2k> vega_: just a heads up, Slim causes a few problems, so its best not to play around with Slim, stick with lightdm, gdm or kdm
[14:09] <Snake2k> vega_: No problem :)
[14:09] <irenicus09> why is its that vi and vim are so different :(
[14:09] <Pici> irenicus09: because vim is vi improved.
[14:09] <jasabella> is it vi or vim taht comes with ubuntu server as standard?
[14:09] <jasabella> (sorry, im a newbie)
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: just choose one and use it :)
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: vi is on every linux distro
[14:10] <zykotick9> irenicus09: actually then are both really vim.  vim-tiny vs vim, is your "vi vs vim" question...
[14:10] <vega_> Thanks for your help again Snake2k, I have one more question. What is the difference between these managers?
[14:10] <irenicus09> ActionParsnip: I really like vim...but when I try to use vi like vim it kinda doesnt work that way :[
[14:10] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: ;) vi is on every POSIX distro
[14:10] <jasabella> i can use some vim commands in info and man and less, that s great :)
[14:11] <osubuntu> !quit
[14:11] <osubuntu> sorry
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: blah blah :)
[14:11] <jasabella> like / for search and n or N to step thru them
[14:11] <osubuntu> it was /quit..
[14:11] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, that is exactly what I wanted to do
[14:11] <Snake2k> vega_: Well, honestly, just the way it looks, its all preference, I prefer lightdm (the default), some people like gdm or kdm or slim, just compare their pictures on google images and get the one you like most lol
[14:11] <Snake2k> vega_: And, no problem :)
[14:12] <vega_> Awesome. Thank you
[14:13] <exalt> hello, why does ubuntu use two runlevels instead of 6 by other distros?
[14:13] <zykotick9> exalt: because ubuntu is based on debian, and that's what debian does...
[14:14] <r7_> Anyone installed Xubuntu/Ubuntu on BTRFS can support me?
[14:15] <zykotick9> exalt: and that isn't exactly correct statement.
[14:15] <streulma> what is the best Linux to use for work guys ?
[14:16] <streulma> Ubuntu LTS or 13.04 or .10 ?
[14:16] <Touhou11> r7_: BTRFS isn't stable yet, not recommended for general use
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> exalt: because what the extra runlevels were intended for is obsolete in modern systems
[14:16] <edinny> streulma, the best linux to use, in general, is one you can get support for...preferably LOCALLY
[14:16] <geirha> streulma: Depends what you need. If you don't mind software being slightly old, I'd go with LTS
[14:17] <r7_> Touhou11,  I am testing it because my laptop doesn't have any critical files. So far it was stable in quite some distros. They main website says the current version is unlikely to change.
[14:17] <k1l> streulma: if you need to ask about stability use the LTS versions
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> streulma: lts is recommended for a professional environment
[14:18] <vedic> Hey guys, I have downloaded an old svn repository. It had worked previously but now when I do ./configure , It says "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory" . I don't remember how I did it last time. Any ideas? I see there is a autogen.sh file.
[14:18] <r7_> Can I resize /dev/hda1 so I can add a partition just for booting?
[14:18] <r7_> sda*
[14:19] <vedic> There is configure.in file as well
[14:19] <replicant> from what i'm reading.. there is no way to enable r/w access for an hfs+ formatted drive unless you are able to get that drive onto an osx machine to disable the journaling.. correct?
[14:19] <Wiz_KeeD> it's wierd that if I do apache restart logged in it works without asking password but if i do from local ssh ip /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it says permission denied
[14:19] <geirha> vedic: autogen.sh will generate the configure script
[14:19] <qum_> qum,
[14:19] <Touhou11> streulma: I use Debian Stable for work purposes
[14:20] <vedic> geirha: It says: autogen.sh: 6: autogen.sh: aclocal: not found; autogen.sh: 7: autogen.sh: autoheader: not found; autogen.sh: 8: autogen.sh: automake: not found; autogen.sh: 9: autogen.sh: autoconf: not found
[14:20] <jasabella> my ubuntu install is living in a vm and the internet connection appears to have died, any pointers?
[14:20] <sayres> i installed xubuntu 13.4 on my laptop.i dont know why firefox cant open my sait?i got "Unable to connect" error.my sait is www.tazik.ir   what's your idea?
[14:21] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone knows why that happens?
[14:21] <zykotick9> sayres: fyi, i think you mean site
[14:21] <r7_> ok I had some hopes to find help here, but since I didn't I will have to reinstall Xubuntu and make a separate /boot partition for it. Thanks for those who tried.
[14:21] <geirha> vedic: sudo apt-get install build-essential   you might need more packages. aclocal is installed by the automake package
[14:21] <sayres> zykotick9 : ops ,yes site
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> actually I was wrong
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, it still does not allow me to restart the server without password prompt
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: it will, you need to add an entry in sudoers to allow the command to run without password, you can make a group and add your user to it, then log off and on.
[14:27] <jasabella> is there a reason for arp to drop off?
[14:29] <bekks> jasabella: What do you mean by "arp drop off"?
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, do you have a tutorial that shows how to do that?
[14:29] <jasabella> well right now my ubuntu install in a vm has lost internet connectivity
[14:29] <jasabella> when i do service networking restart
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, wiz ALL=NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/openerp-server restart <== I have this at the end of the file
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers   shows how
[14:29] <jasabella> it will list my devices, after a while, it wont list anything
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39281/how-to-run-an-application-using-sudo-without-a-password
[14:30] <jasabella> ifconfig is still showing my manual settings for ip address/mask and broadcast
[14:30] <jasabella> i cant even ping my gateway
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: can you ping your gatreway?
[14:30] <jasabella> nope
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: is routing set ok?
[14:31] <jasabella> oh hang on, i can now hmmm
[14:31] <jasabella> i get (DUP!)
[14:31] <jasabella> ok i gotta check routing
[14:31] <jasabella> (i dont know what to look for? )
[14:32] <bekks> jasabella: netstat -rn
[14:32] <jasabella> oh same as route :D
[14:32] <Wiz_KeeD> start-stop-daemon: unable to open pidfile '/var/run/openerp-server.pid' for writing (Permission denied) that's the issue
[14:32] <ashu> hello
[14:32] <jasabella> destination 0.0.0.0, gateway 192.168.1.1, genmask 0.0.0.0, flags UG iface eth0
[14:32] <jasabella> seems right
[14:32] <ciencisto> Hello! I'd need help with my open source drivers...
[14:32] <jasabella> (from the little that i know)
[14:33] <jasabella> what's genmask? :)
[14:33] <jasabella> ooohh it's in man :)
[14:33] <vedic> geirha: Thanks. It worked
[14:33] <Wiz_KeeD> nvm, i'm an idiot
[14:34] <Anomie_work> was the mail command removed in the mailutils package? What was this replaced with does anyone know?
[14:34] <ciencisto> I've installed fglrx-updates on my desktop computer, but after trying my Live CD, I've found out that the Live CD had faster graphics
[14:34] <ciencisto> And the Live CD uses open source drivers
[14:34] <jasabella> nslookup isnt working :(
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: then check your nameservers.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: try:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: then try nslookup
[14:35] <ciencisto> I've tried switching from fglrx-updates to the open source drivers, but I can't get my native resolution somehow
[14:36] <ciencisto> Could anybody help me?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> ciencisto: you may need an xorg.conf file
[14:37] <jasabella> no reply from google dns server :(
[14:37] <ciencisto> ActionParsnip: Alright. How can I get one?
[14:37] <jasabella> connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[14:37] <bekks> jasabella: That happens. There is no guarantee that a DNS server will answer.
[14:38] <jasabella> hehe if it's udp one
[14:38] <bekks> Even if it is TCP.
[14:38] <jasabella> oh
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ciencisto: you can make one, there is also a command to spit a skeleton file out, see the !ati link ubottu has
[14:38] <jasabella> i did do sudo apt-get purge open-vm-tools earlier
[14:38] <jasabella> and sudo apt-get autoremove
[14:39] <jasabella> did it remove a package and kill my internet? :/
[14:39] <jasabella> (not supposed to happen from what i understand but i? a newbie)
[14:39] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: Recommending Google DNS is a rather bad idea, given their relationship with the NSA
[14:39] <PDvic> yes mom
[14:40] <bekks> Touhou11: Ouh yes. They will spy on you by sending dns answers.
[14:40] <PDvic> NSA is here to protect you
[14:40] <jasabella> Touhou11, they have a clear polcy regarding it
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: i don't care. Its for testing
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: try a smaller tinfoil hat collection, ok
[14:41] <Touhou11> jasabella: When the NSA makes every organization sign a NDA, any policies are presumed to be dishonest unfortunately
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: its a dead easy IP to remember and if it made the user's system work, we have isolated the issue
[14:41] <jasabella> https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: the file is generated at reboot, so is easy to undo
[14:41] <ciencisto> ActionParsnip: Make one myself? Oh God I'm not very good with Linux commands et al.
[14:41] <PDvic> NSA Nations Sexier Arses
[14:41] <jasabella> Touhou11, i suppose :)
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> !ati | ciencisto
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ciencisto: nobody is born knowing either, the link ubottu gives show you the command
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: so its no bad thing to use google dns, in this case. Is it?
[14:41] <jasabella> i tried reverse look up of 8.8.8.8  :)
[14:42] <ciencisto> ActionParsnip: Oh great, thanks, checking that out
[14:42] <jasabella> didnt work :/
[14:42] <PDvic> google is your friend
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> PDvic: I prefer the duck :)
[14:42] <jasabella> duckduckgoose hehe
[14:42] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: While DNS requests don't reveal very much, I'd still rather than not supply the NSA with more data for correlation. Up to you though.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> duckduckgo :)
[14:42] <ciencisto> Hmm, so I have 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670]
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: again, its for a quick test.
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: I'm sure 2 or 3 requests isn't going to help them scan your brain patterns via satellite
[14:44] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: I'd rather not joke about such things, who knows what technology is in Google Glass ;)
[14:44] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Thats what they want you to believe ;)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> bekks: oh noes
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: in short you are too paranoid, i'm not even remotely bothered and I'm still alive with a full quota of limbs..... weird huh
[14:45] <lolu> i hear they can remotely turn Galss users blind!! ;)
[14:45] <PDvic> why you got something to hide?
[14:45] <PDvic> i hear they can make peoples clothing tranparent
[14:46] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: Do you not follow the news? Any paranoia is justifiable given the revelations about Google's close involvement with the NSA. Winston Smith was alive too
[14:46] <jasabella> i? at a loss of whats happening :(
[14:46] <jasabella> i rebooted the vm several times lareayd
[14:46] <jasabella> and restarted networking service
[14:46] <PDvic> i found my hardwaer dumpster diving
[14:46] <gordonjcp> PDvic: best kind
[14:47] <gordonjcp> PDvic: what's the difference between a computer out of the bins, and a computer off eBay?
[14:47] <gordonjcp> PDvic: one out of a bin might work...
[14:48] <jasabella> i goto a place where they sell preloved hardware :)
[14:48] <jasabella> got a cheap modem, wifi router and portable printer
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: I know of it, i just dont care
[14:48] <kama> hi all
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: again, still alive, no ill affects
[14:48] <kama> hi all
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: so where is the problem?
[14:48] <Bretos`> I am looking for a LiveCD, which can boot over PXE out of the box, just like ArchLinux livecd, but I need something with X environment. Any suggestions?
[14:49] <ciencisto> ActionParsnip: That'll be okay, thank you very much! :)
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: I'd ask in a vmware channel
[14:49] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: People in North Korea are alive, but their situation and lack of freedom is not desirable. Google is helping propogate such a situation
[14:49] <zohan> night all
[14:49] <auronandace> !ot | Touhou11
[14:49] <jasabella> so i've done all there is in ubuntu?
[14:50] <kama> how to know whether grub is install to mbr?
[14:50] <bekks> Touhou11: Ouh, I'm off of your paranoia - first, google is driven by the NSA, now they are supporting North Korea. What next. Ignore set.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: no, its just an extra avenue of help.
[14:50] <jasabella> (i? still learning btw, i will repeat these steps if i ever have the same problem again!)
[14:50] <jasabella> oh
[14:50] <irenicus09> hi guys is it possible to get openbox or some other desktop nevironments to run on ubuntu?
[14:50] <jasabella> ok
[14:50] <gordonjcp> irenicus09: yes
[14:50] <irenicus09> gordonjcp: how exactly do I switch to the other one
[14:50] <Touhou11> bekks: Eric Schmidt of Google visited North Korea fairly recently
[14:51] <irenicus09> I mean when I login I don't see any option
[14:51] <irenicus09> to select the wm or de
[14:51] <jasabella> thank you for your help, i appreciate it :0
[14:51] <gordonjcp> irenicus09: when you install another DE you'll see a little logo beside your name at the login screen
[14:51] <jasabella> :)
[14:51] <bekks> kama: By looking at the content - or by re-installing grub to the MBR in case of doubt.
[14:51] <PDvic> google uses ubuntu
[14:51] <cgtdk> irenicus09: Yes it is very possible
[14:51] <irenicus09> gordonjcp: hmm I just uninstalled unity and added gnome3 ppa and now I dont see gnome3
[14:52] <irenicus09> and when  login to noral desktop everything is so fukd haha
[14:52] <jasabella> i'm finding it dizzying to keep track of all the various conf files around the place
[14:52] <cgtdk> irenicus09: did you just add the PPA or did you install it?
[14:52] <bekks> PDvic: So Ubuntu supports North Korea. </ot>
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Touhou11. and the chinese have a secret base on the dark side ofd the moon ,from which they'll eventually rule the earth
[14:52] <irenicus09> ppa
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: openbox isnt a desktop environment
[14:52] <irenicus09> ActionParsnip: I'm aware of that bro haha
[14:52] <cgtdk> irenicus09: You have to install the software from the PPA to get it. It's not enough just to add the PPA.
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: if you install openbox, you can select the session in Lightdm
[14:52] <irenicus09> cgtdk: already did
[14:52] <cgtdk> You're using lightdm, right?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: or install lxde and use that lxde desktop with openbox wm
[14:53] <irenicus09> cgtdk: ya
[14:53] <PDvic> north korea are NSA lovers
[14:53] <PDvic> or its the other way around
[14:53] <PDvic> imagine if hitler had the internet
[14:53] <auronandace> don't people get kicked for persisting in off-topic chat in here anymore?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: apparently not
[14:54] <irenicus09> ActionParsnip: is it possible to just install openbox and get on it without installing lxde?
[14:54] <auronandace> Pici: thanks
[14:54] <cgtdk> irenicus09: Yes
[14:54] <PDvic> you dont like the truth
[14:54] <Pici> !guidelines > PDvic
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: sure, just install openbox and you should get it as an option in the login screen
[14:54] <Pici> PDvic: knock it off, this is a support channel.
[14:54] <irenicus09> cgtdk: ok giving it a try
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: you can always make your own session file which will be selectable at login to just run openbox
[14:55] <PDvic> some one mentioned north korea?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> PDvic: its offtopic as it is not support related
[14:56] <chegney> what package is urxvt part of? ubuntu won't let me install outright
[14:56] <auronandace> PDvic: you don't have to continue the discussion, this channel is for support issues with ubuntu
[14:56] <kostkon> !find urxvt
[14:56] <penguinRaider> Hi I am trying to use cobbler to connect to a machine via PXE and install ubuntu . I am trying to preseed so that I dont have to enter anything the seed being http://paste.ubuntu.com/6236210/ particularly the network interface and partition . I used debconf-get-selections to those lines  I thought these lines might help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6236213/ . But I still have to make interface selection and I dont get to partition screen now . Any help ? Than
[14:56] <penguinRaider> ks
[14:57] <chegney> ah, nevermind
[14:57] <chegney> rxvt-unicode is the package name
[15:00] <PDvic> ubuntu is coming of age it dosent need support channel anymore
[15:04] <daninoz> hi guys, is 12.04 with a kernel update better than 13.10 ?
[15:04] <PDvic> thats a matter of taste
[15:05] <auronandace> daninoz: qualify better
[15:05] <PDvic> hahaha
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> daninoz: 12.04 is LTS, so supported til April 2017. Saucy is considerably shorter
[15:05] <daninoz> auronandace: more stable
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> daninoz: 12.04 is the LTS release, so will be more stable
[15:06] <daninoz> ActionParsnip: even with a kernel update?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> daninoz: yes
[15:06] <PDvic> 12.04 is rock 13.10 is paper
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> daninoz: the LTS aims to be as solid as possible
[15:06] <zohan> the kernel 3.11.5 released today
[15:06] <PDvic> im excited
[15:06] <zohan> stable kernel
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> zohan: saucy has 3.11.0
[15:07] <daninoz> ActionParsnip: ok, great.
[15:08] <chegney> is it a complete reinstall when 13 becomes lts?
[15:08] <auronandace> chegney: there is no 13, the next lts is 14.04
[15:08] <PDvic> isnt the ubuntu orange the same exact tone as the prison uniforms?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> chegney: 13.04 and 13.10 will never be LTS
[15:09] <chegney> okay the next lts release what is the upgrade process from 12.04 lts
[15:09] <auronandace> daninoz: if you are using a kernel from outside the official repos then we can't support you (it will be less stable)
[15:10] <auronandace> chegney: you can upgrade directly from lts to lts
[15:10] <rasper> bonjour, quelqu'un peux m'aider sur un problème hostAP, => l'AP est bien visible mais impossible de s'y connecter (ni en WPA ni sans securité)
[15:11] <chegney> so an apt-get upgrade or something like that?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> chegney: you can upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 directly, it is the next release
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | chegney
[15:11] <auronandace> !fr | rasper
[15:11] <rasper> sorry, thanks ;)
[15:13] <SuperLag> if you're downloading a package that requires you to accept a license agreement to install it, is there any way to automate that, so you can put it in a script and not have it either break the script or hold everything up? The package in question is ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[15:14] <jrib> SuperLag: search about "debconf preseed"
[15:18] <datoner> en toen was er koffie
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> douwe egberts koffie
[15:20] <erle-> why is ubuntu so slow in virtual box (on ubuntu)?
[15:20] <erle-> it was fine years ago
[15:20] <erle-> but since a year or two it is just slow
[15:20] <erle-> on the same machines
[15:20] <cgtdk> perhaps because of Unity
[15:20] <fanandy_> he
[15:21] <erle-> cgtdk, i dont use unity
[15:21] <cgtdk> What then?
[15:21] <erle-> cgtdk, same with old ubuntu versions with gnome 2 classic
[15:21] <cgtdk> I see
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> erle-: compiz probably chewing the system down. Try LXDE or XFCE instead
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> erle-: if you use Precise, use Unity2D and it will also be ok
[15:24] <OerHeks> erle-, maybe your videocard is aging, ati 2xxx/3xxx/4xxx ?
[15:24] <Touhou11> A desktop shell shouldn't take an accelerated video card, even an older one
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Topslack: sadly, compiz does
[15:26] <erle-> ActionParsnip, even the setup is unusable
[15:26] <erle-> ActionParsnip, mouse not really movable to buttons
[15:26] <erle-> erle-, i did not come to any choice of DEs
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> erle-: which release are you on?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> erle-: cat /etc/issue    in a terminal will tell you
[15:28] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i am on 13.04 and want to try 13.10-rc
[15:28] <erle-> ActionParsnip, but thats not my problem, i wanted to ask a general report why it is slow since years now, while it was working fine like 2 years ago
[15:28] <erle-> ActionParsnip, in a nutshell: who broke what?
[15:29] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i think it is the hosts fault btw, other distros also seem slow to unusable, without any desktop fancy effects
[15:30] <sebkirller> Hey does anyone know a fix for hexxit on Ubuntu 13.10. It's the white screen never loading bug
[15:30] <erle-> ActionParsnip, including 3 year old distros with gnome 2
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> !find hexxit
[15:30] <sebkirller> So how do I fix it? sorry a bit new to linux
[15:30] <DJones> !13.10 | sebkirller
[15:31] <blz> Hello, I'm trying to export 4 distinct folders via nfs (each with it's own mountpoint, i.e.:  server:/export/folder_name), but all four of these mountpoints appear to point to the same directory.  Here is my fstab file with the NFS filesystem at the bottom, followed by my /etc/exports:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217970/  && http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217973/   What am I doing wrong?
[15:32] <nardev> hello, is there any application in repos that i can use to extract/edit FLA (flash source) files. No meter how primitive. I just need to grab some text from there?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> err-or: as far as I can see, metacity is not used and compiz is used
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> oh
[15:34] <ecthiender> hello when I resume from suspended machine, it fails, and restarts. any clues what should I be doing to fix it?
[15:34] <Wiz_KeeD> is there any way to check the last few ip's who have connected to the ubuntu server via http?
[15:34] <Wiz_KeeD> on a certain port if that helps
[15:34] <ecthiender> I am running ubuntu 13.04
[15:35] <ecthiender> on a thinkpad e430
[15:35] <ecthiender> it used to work fine. its behaving this way since a month now.
[15:35] <danny4way> I am trying to install NetBean but can't.
[15:35] <tgm4883> Wiz_KeeD, if you are running apache, there is an access log
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm afraid not tgm
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> tgm4883,
[15:35] <danny4way> I already downloaded .sh file but don't know how to install it through terminal
[15:36] <bekks> danny4way: sh filename.sh
[15:37] <danny4way> it says can't open netbeans-7.3.1-javaee-linux.sh
[15:37] <danny4way> bekks
[15:38] <danny4way> http://techgurdian.blogspot.com/2013/06/installing-netbeans-731-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[15:38] <danny4way> this is a software that I am trying to install.
[15:38] <danny4way> I already download the file and it's called "netbeans-7.3.1-javaee-linux.sh
[15:41] <SuperLag> jrib: thank you
[15:41] <SuperLag> is there a way to remove icons from the launcher in a script?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  first look in dconf-editor
[15:42] <SuperLag> as opposed to right-click and "Unlock from launcher'
[15:43] <MangaKaDenza> yo dawgs
[15:43] <mPrometheus> sup MangaKaDenza
[15:43] <MangaKaDenza> how do I put the powder toy in ubuntu so I can powdertoy ?
[15:43] <danny4way> Anyone knows?
[15:44] <chegney> isn't the executable for chromium browser "chromium"?
[15:44] <danny4way> How to install a file through terminal?
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> chegney  chromium-browser
[15:44] <Zal> danny4way, what do you mean "install"?
[15:44] <GZA-Genius> danny4way: what you mean?
[15:44] <chegney> well, that deserves a symbolic link
[15:45] <danny4way> http://techgurdian.blogspot.com/2013/06/installing-netbeans-731-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[15:45] <danny4way> This is what I am trying to install
[15:45] <danny4way> But after I downloaded I can't install it through terminal
[15:45] <danny4way> GZA-Genius
[15:45] <danny4way> Zal
[15:46] <Zal> danny4way, that link provides exact instructions. Which instruction are you having trouble understanding?
[15:47] <qum> Hi. i got an issue with my networking. I'm on 12.04 ubuntu. I got 2 ethernet built in adapters on my motherboard. Each time i restart the system, i need to switch my network cable to other adapter for the internet to work. ANy solution?
[15:47] <danny4way> Instruction 4
[15:47] <danny4way> Where it says to install Netbeans
[15:47] <Zal> danny4way, ok, what do you not understand about it?
[15:47] <bekks> danny4way: Run the installer: sh filename.sh
[15:48] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: dconf-editor requires manual intervention and cannot be run from a script
[15:48] <danny4way> It says sh: 0: Can't open netbeans-7.3.1-javaee-linux.sh bekks
[15:48] <belak> When/where will the release party be (which channel)?
[15:49] <qum> Hi. i got an issue with my networking. I'm on 12.04 ubuntu. I got 2 ethernet built in adapters on my motherboard. Each time i restart the system, i need to switch my network cable to other adapter for the internet to work. ANy solution?
[15:49] <tgm4883> belak, probably  #ubuntu-release-party
[15:50] <pentester> is it possible to do a net install from live usb
[15:51] <bobapplepie> is there a way to put the percentage next to the battery in unity
[15:51] <MangaKaDenza> hmm
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> another question
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> Does anyone know why I cant get files off my zune into ubuntu?
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> I mean
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> I plugged in my zune the other day
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> I could see most of the files
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> but when I tried to copy
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> I kept getting errors
[15:52] <wylde> !enter | MangaKaDenza
[15:53] <blz> Hello, I'm trying to export 4 distinct folders via nfs (each with it's own mountpoint, i.e.:  server:/export/folder_name), but all four of these mountpoints appear to point to the same directory.  Here is my fstab file with the NFS filesystem at the bottom, followed by my /etc/exports:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217970/  && http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217973/   What am I doing wrong?
[15:53] <MangaKaDenza> I also tried playing directly from the device through vlc, but that also didn't work
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> bobapplepie: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:53] <MangaKaDenza> wylde, yes I'll consider that, but help would be more useful
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> MangaKaDenza  isnt Zune a Microsoft thingy?
[15:55] <chegney> yes
[15:56] <MangaKaDenza> MonkeyDust, yes
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> bobapplepie: its a simple terminal command, copy the output and paste in the channel (its one line so is ok)
[15:56] <MangaKaDenza> I could install the client via wine
[15:56] <chegney> it was their attempt at an iPod
[15:56] <MangaKaDenza> but I hear it doesn't work
[15:56] <sober> why my ubuntu is so slow even if max cpu utilization is around 18% by compiz and a bit by chrome
[15:56] <MangaKaDenza> meh
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> MangaKaDenza: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/natty/qlix/
[15:56] <MangaKaDenza> I'll try installing
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> !info qlix
[15:57] <OerHeks> MangaKaDenza, untill someone cracks the ZMTP protocol, zune is no use on linux.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> clementine may also like it
[15:57] <MangaKaDenza> ActionParsnip, thanks
[15:58] <Zal> blz, hm, you're mounting with "bind" option, while exports are typically per-filesystem, not per directory. I'm not sure, but the "crossmnt" option might be what you need in exports.
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> what's MTP?
[15:58] <qum> Guys, no one can help me? :(((
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> qum  start with a question
[15:59] <qum> MonkeyDust,  i stated my question 3 times :/
[15:59] <qum> Hi. i got an issue with my networking. I'm on 12.04 ubuntu. I got 2 ethernet built in adapters on my motherboard. Each time i restart the system, i need to switch my network cable to other adapter for the internet to work. ANy solution?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> qum: if you tell the interface to request DHCP, do you get a connection?
[16:00] <kermyt> I have an AMD APU (CPU/GPU on the same chip) the installer chokes on the hardware using the radeon drivers by default. Is there a way to force the installer to use a more generic vesa mode?
[16:00] <qum> nope
[16:00] <qum> ActionParsnip,nope.
[16:00] <chegney> isn't there a flash enabled browser for linux similar to Puffin?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> kermyt: add the boot option:  radeon.blacklist=1
[16:01] <kermyt> THank you ActionParsnip !
[16:01] <waykool99> need help editing  Grub in  command line please?
[16:01] <compdoc> kermyt, is there an option in the bios to use legacy video?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> chegney: what does pufin do that you like?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> waykool99: editting to do what?
[16:02] <sober> how can i disable my nvidia graphics card to see if its making my system slow
[16:02] <blz> Zal, so I should try replacing `bind` in /etc/fstab with `crossmnt` ?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> bobapplepie: still waiting for the command output......
[16:02] <chegney> ActionParsnip it has flash built in
[16:02] <kermyt> compdoc, yes but I have no other handy hardware to stick into it
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> chegney: Chrome has that
[16:02] <waykool99> want to change default boot OS and 9 seconds to 100 seconds
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> waykool99: edit /etc/default/grub   and you can change the timeout
[16:03] <chegney> ActionParsnip do i need to enable the plugin or something?
[16:03] <Zal> blz, no, crossmnt is an option that goes in /etc/exports, which may or may not help to differentiate between different "bind" mounts that originate from the same filesystem.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> waykool99: do you want Windows to be top in a dual boot system per chance?
[16:03] <Zal> blz, check out "man exports" for details
[16:03] <waykool99> always did it  in v10.04 GUI
[16:03] <waykool99> no
[16:03] <blz> Zal, ok will do.  Thanks!
[16:03] <compdoc> kermyt, set the option to legacy and try
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> chegney: no idea, just found that stuff online
[16:03] <sober> how can i disable my nvidia graphics card to see if its making  my system slow
[16:03] <kermyt> compdoc, ok will do!
[16:04] <chegney> ActionParsnip when I look at chrome://plugins there's no flash player
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> waykool99: edit the timeout and run:  sudo update-grub    to apply
[16:04] <waykool99> have U Studio v12.04 LTS and U Studio v10.04 LTS. want 10.04 Default
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> chegney: it comes with papper flash by default
[16:04] <jjosh> test
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> !test | jjosh
[16:05] <waykool99> yes ubottu TEST back atcha
[16:05] <jjosh> thanks
[16:05] <waykool99> Windows? whats that
[16:06] <blz> Zal, ok will do.  Thanks!
[16:07] <chegney> ah... flashplugin-installer
[16:07] <waykool99> thank you Action
[16:07] <Zal> blz np
[16:07] <Zal> oh, first-name basis with Mr. Parsnip
[16:08] <blz> Zal, okay so I added crossmnt to each line in /etc/exports and did `sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart`, but when I mount the nfs file system, I'm getting the same behavior as before
[16:08] <blz> Zal, any other suggestions?
[16:09] <Zal> blz, nothing I can think of offhand. What you're trying to do may not be possible. Have you considered mounting once on the NFS client, and symlinking the appropriate subdirectories to the desired locations?
[16:10] <blz> Zal, hmm that might be a good solution, actually
[16:10] <chegney> OMG the sound is horrible on my dell netbook
[16:11] <chegney> skipping and the sound isn't feeding through the headphone jack
[16:11] <Zal> chegney, strange, netbooks are known for having such awesome audio
[16:12] <Zal> chegney, ha, well that sounds like a real problem. Wrong driver maybe?
[16:14] <karthik> hi every one i have a problem how to play .ts media files can anyone help me please....
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> karthik: what is a ts file?
[16:14] <chegney> Zal yeah, I think a driver issue, not sure how to correct yet
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> chegney: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:15] <slamm> how can i disable my nvidia graphics card ?
 ts means Transport Stream MPEG-2 Video Stream
[16:16] <chegney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6236580/
[16:16] <Zal> slamm, BIOS option?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> chegney: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 secons and reboot
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> karthik: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3645/how-do-i-convert-ts-files-into-something-useful
[16:17] <Irrelium> I am having trouble installing the proprietary AMD display drivers (fglrx) for my 7950, and I was wondering if anyone could help
[16:17] <Irrelium> Whenever I install them, on boot I get a "The system is running in low-graphics mode"
[16:18] <Irrelium> Reinstalling the open source drivers fixes it and I can boot fine
[16:18] <karthik> thank you ActionParsnip
[16:18] <Irrelium> I have tried both fglrx and fglrx-updates
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> karthik  it says here, smplayer can play .ts files
[16:19] <erle-> how do I switch DE in a regular ubuntu install?
[16:19] <erle-> which means: lightdm
[16:19] <karthik> thank you MonkeyDust
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> erle-  logout, click on ubuntu logo and switch, login
[16:19] <erle-> MonkeyDust, thanks
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> erle-: log off, set the DE at login
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> erle-: then login
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> erle-: lightdm is not a DE
[16:21] <erle-> ActionParsnip, MonkeyDust: cant find any button in login screen
[16:21] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i know, but lightdm is the login screen
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> erle-: its the ubuntu icon near your username
[16:21] <erle-> ActionParsnip, seems to miss with 13.10
[16:22] <trism> erle-: it will not show up if you only have one desktop environment installed
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> erle-: Saucy is not supported here
[16:22] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i know, didnt guess that that would change
[16:23] <kop> AP!
[16:23] <erle-> how do i select non-3d unity then, trism?
[16:23] <trism> erle-: there isn't one anymore
[16:23] <erle-> ok
[16:24] <trism> erle-: if you install gnome-panel you can get the gnome flashback session which might work
[16:24] <trism> erle-: or lubuntu/xubuntu
[16:24] <erle-> trism, thanks, that is what i need
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> erle-: saucy support is in #ubuntu+1 til release day
[16:25] <Irrelium> Are the Catalyst drivers downloaded from AMD's website the same as the ones you get with the fglrx package?
[16:25] <yeik> i am having a problem with updates - http://pastebin.com/X7KW8v7w anybody very good with dpkg and apt-get?
[16:25] <tgm4883> Irrelium, I believe so (provided you build the package with the installer from the AMD site), although you'll probably get newer versions from AMD
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Irrelium: sparty has a guide on his yourtube page
[16:25] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i know, i just did not think that this was a saucy-specialised question
[16:26] <wbat>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER wbat fznriyilptas
[16:26] <slamm> how can i disable my nvidia graphics card ? newbie here
[16:26] <erle-> Irrelium, yes, but versions may matter
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> erle-: its still support for Saucy you are after, as that is the release you are using
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> wbat  change your password!
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> wbat: new pass needed now :)
[16:26] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i am using both right now, saucy in a vm on raring host
[16:26] <erle-> :)
[16:26] <chegney> ActionParsnip, that didn't fix the skipping
[16:26] <Irrelium> I am having trouble getting fglrx or fglrx-updates to work, is it worth trying the drivers from AMDs website, or should I try something else?
[16:26] <chegney> my netbook has that poulsbo audio crap
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> erle-: if the issue is in saucy, it is in #ubuntu+1
[16:26] <erle-> ActionParsnip, the virtualboxquestion was actually a raring-question
[16:27] <Irrelium> I am on 13.04 with a 7950
[16:27] <Pici> wbat, ActionParsnip, MonkeyDust: the verify command doesn't actually contain a password.
[16:27] <chegney> i think there is a better driver for poulsbo
[16:29] <slamm> zal, is there any other way to disable it ..because i am having dual boot and i only want to disable it for ubuntu
[16:31] <slamm> is there any other way to disable it ..because i am having  dual boot and i only want to disable it for ubuntu
[16:31] <slamm> other than bios
[16:32] <blz> I just mounted an nfs share with `mount 192.168.1.12:/export /media/nfs/`.  How can I translate this into a fstab line?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> blz: you can put the command in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, fstab is processed before the network comes up
[16:34] <blz> ActionParsnip, cool, thanks!
[16:34] <blz> ActionParsnip, does rc.local run with root priviledges?
[16:35] <GZA-Genius> blz: "/source/path/here /destination/path/here none bind 0 0"
[16:35] <bekks> blz: Yes, it does.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> blz: yes
[16:35] <dixoncx> Hi, what is the recommended size for ubuntu installation, considering /home in separate partition ?
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> dixoncx: i use 10Gb, depends on what the system is for
[16:36] <mluser-laptop> Hello, I was wondering if anyone here can recomend a good tv tuner that works with US digital airways and US cable.  I'll be using this on a laptop so it will most likely have to be a USB device.
[16:36] <eflynn> how do i switch to something other than unity
[16:36] <yeik> ActionParsnip, Are you sure? I have mounted several nfs drives using fstab.
[16:36] <GZA-Genius> mluser-laptop: have you checked if you can get a CABLECARD from your provider?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> eflynn: install something else, then log off and log in to the new session
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> yeik: as far as I know
[16:37] <eflynn> i mean
[16:37] <eflynn> how do i get gnome
[16:37] <eflynn> unity sucks
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> eflynn: you have it now
[16:37] <mluser-laptop> GZA-Genius: No, I have not.  It also has to be compatible with linux/ubuntu, which is why I wanted to ask here first
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> eflynn: Unity is a shell for Gnome, you are running gnome now. Unity does not replace gnome
[16:37] <eflynn> how do i get rid of unity
[16:37] <GZA-Genius> mluser-laptop: well cablecard is first issue
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> eflynn  install other DE, logout, switch, login
[16:37] <mjayk> eflynn: install another D.E.
[16:38] <blz> GZA-Genius, How would I go about designating a network address as my source path?  Something like 192.168.1.12:/remote/path ?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> eflynn: install gnome-shell, or gnome-panel  and you will get a different session. Or switch from gnome to XFCE or LXDE
[16:39] <mluser-laptop> GZA-Genius: I'm currently using an old hauppauge from over 10 years ago without any prolblems, but its ATSC.  And since I'm replacing my desktop with a laptop I need to find something that will work over usb
[16:39] <GZA-Genius> mluser-laptop: then worry about sw comparability
[16:39] <GZA-Genius> blz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[16:39] <dixoncx> ActionParsnip, thanks for reply. previously i was using 30gb without separate home partition. But now i installed with 15gb for / and 25 gb for /home. I was thinking whether i need to increase / partition size.. .
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> eflynn: you can even switch from compiz to metacity and unity will go but you will need to add a startup item to run gnome-panel
[16:39] <mluser-laptop> GZA-Genius: Do you know of a compatibility list for ubuntu with tv tuner adapters?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> dixoncx: sounds fine, again, depends on use
[16:40] <yeik> blz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[16:40] <hexacode> lisp
[16:40] <hexacode> oops
[16:40] <blz> yeik, i've been reading through that, but It's not really behaving as expected, hence my previous questions
[16:41] <dixoncx> ActionParsnip, ok, i will proceed with current system.
[16:41] <yeik> blz, how about this then, for fstab mounts: <server>:</remote/export></local/directory><nfs-type><options> 0 0
[16:42] <blz> yeik, thanks i'll give that a shot =)
[16:42] <hexacode> hey you guys. i have this old netbook running ubuntu. thing is, the screen broke...i dont have any extra monitors lying around, so i was wondering if anyone knew the old fashion console way of using linux? like, can i take a serial wire and minicom on another linux to that netbook?
[16:42] <hexacode> im just trying to get in so i can use it. i want it to be a micro server
[16:44] <bekks> hexacode: ssh is more easy.
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> if you have installed ssh
[16:48] <crash1hd> is there any reason why locate wouldnt work I am doing the following locate -i %name% | grep ~/Videos/  where name is the file I am searching for and I know there is lost by the name but it comes back no results even afer doing a sudo updatedb thoughts?
[16:48] <Chudy> ktoś z Polski?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> !pl
[16:49] <Chudy> pl
[16:49] <jrib> crash1hd: if your home is encrypted I think it won't be indexed by locate by default
[16:50] <crash1hd> right its not encrypted
[16:50] <crash1hd> at least I dont think its encrypted
[16:50] <CHA0> Whats your fav. App in ubuntu, everybody?
[16:50] <jrib> crash1hd: check your settings for locate
[16:50] <OerHeks> !poll | CHA0
[16:50] <crash1hd> jrib, how do I do that?
[16:51] <jrib> crash1hd: /etc/updatedb.conf
[16:51] <CHA0> Thanks, ubotto
[16:51] <Chudy> Hello everyone!
[16:52] <jrib> crash1hd: are you sure a file with percent signs like that exists by the way?
[16:52] <crash1hd> jrib, PRUNEPATHS="/tmp /var/spool /media /home/.ecryptfs"
[16:53] <crash1hd> it should I was searching for specific shows and I know I have them
[16:53] <crash1hd> by name
[16:53] <crash1hd> locate works without the grep
[16:53] <jrib> crash1hd: give an example of a file you expect to get returned
[16:53] <jrib> crash1hd: ok
[16:54] <crash1hd> jrib, like if I do locate -i %brown% it brings up a tonne of files
[16:54] <crash1hd> but once I add | grep ~/Videos/
[16:54] <crash1hd> it brings up nothing
[16:54] <karthik> how to play .ts files in pc
[16:54] <jrib> crash1hd: doesn't that just mean none of the files are in ~/Videos?  Can you verify that's not the case?
[16:55] <crash1hd> going to check (I should though)
[16:56] <jrib> crash1hd: you also still haven't verified your home isn't encrypted
[16:56] <crash1hd> jrib, oh the ~/Videos is a symlink
[16:56] <crash1hd> that might be why
[16:56] <jrib> crash1hd: probably
[16:58] <Kartagis> network-manager says no active connections found when I click 'connection information', and network connections from system tools > preferences lists my connections. what's going on?  (not to mention that I'm also online)
[16:58] <crash1hd> jrib, yep and I had to remove the %
[16:58] <crash1hd> thanks :)
[16:59] <linuxearth> How the famous android phone application 'whatsapp' can be used in the linux in the easiest way??
[16:59] <paulens12> hello
[16:59] <linuxearth> How the famous android phone application 'whatsapp' can be used in the linux in the easiest way??
[16:59] <jjosh> eclipse kepler menu is not showing up in 3.10
[16:59] <jjosh> are they working on it?
[16:59] <paulens12> i'm trying to automate git commit/push
[17:00] <jrib> paulens12: why...?
[17:00] <paulens12> the problem is that it asks for password everytime
[17:00] <OerHeks> linuxearth, not. if you find a way, let us know.
[17:00] <linuxearth> lol
[17:00] <paulens12> jrib: i want to commit and push with a single click
[17:00] <paulens12> jrib: i'm making a lot of changes
[17:00] <paulens12> jrib: and writing a long command is just too much...
[17:00] <jrib> paulens12: so commit your lots of changes and then push them?
[17:01] <jjosh> you can do that with smartgit
[17:01] <paulens12> you don't get my point
[17:01] <paulens12> i don't want to use commands
[17:01] <jrib> paulens12: there are a few gui frontends for git
[17:01] <paulens12> jrib: and they all don't work as they're supposed to work...
[17:01] <jrib> paulens12: how so?
[17:01] <paulens12> for example, one asks for password all the time
[17:02] <paulens12> another keeps disconnecting
[17:02] <paulens12> i want it to remember my password
[17:02] <jrib> paulens12: that's likely because you need a password to push?  Are you pushing to a remote server?  How do you login?
[17:02] <paulens12> and why those silly questions?
[17:02] <paulens12> JRIB
[17:02] <paulens12> LISTEN TO ME
[17:02] <paulens12> I'M ANNOYED TO ENTER THE PASSWORD
[17:02] <paulens12> GET IT NOW?
[17:02] <FloodBot1> paulens12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <paulens12> gosh..
[17:02] <jrib> paulens12: i'm trying to understand what it is you actually want to do.  Please stop with the caps.
[17:03] <Myrtti> paulens12: ssh keys to the rescue, then.
[17:03] <CHA0> Fuck
[17:03] <Myrtti> CHA0: the language
[17:03] <paulens12> jrib: what's so unclear? i want to commit and push with a single click, without entering password
[17:03] <jrib> paulens12: that's likely because you need a password to push?  Are you pushing to a remote server?  How do you login?
[17:03] <chegney> fixed my audio skipping with this --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1132562
[17:03] <paulens12> jrib: dude, i know.
[17:04] <CHA0> Fuknor
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: i want the password to be stored in the sh file
[17:04] <jrib> paulens12: can you answer my questions?
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: and yes, it's remote.
[17:04] <CHA0> No
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: what questions?
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: what more questions you have?
[17:04] <CHA0> Malla malli
[17:04] <jrib> paulens12: "how do you login?"  Using ssh?
[17:04] <Myrtti> CHA0: did you actually have anything worthwhile to give to the discussion?
[17:04] <hexacode> hey you guys. i have this old netbook running ubuntu. thing is, the screen broke...i dont have any extra monitors lying around, so i was wondering if anyone knew the old fashion console way of using linux? like, can i take a serial wire and minicom on another linux to that netbooks' serial port?
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: no, http
[17:04] <jrib> paulens12: eh?
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: can't get ssh working
[17:04] <chegney> I have a dell inspiron netbook though, so it is clearly an wider issue than that bug
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: i log in using http
[17:05] <paulens12> like git pull (url)
[17:05] <CHA0> Use putty client
[17:05] <paulens12> then it asks for my username and password
[17:06] <jrib> paulens12: probably the easiest thing for you to do is to push over ssh and setup ssh keys as was suggested by someone else
[17:06] <paulens12> ok, i made a ssh key, now where do i put it? please? xD
[17:06] <CHA0> Dont listen to dickens
[17:06] <jrib> paulens12: how did you make it?
[17:06] <CHA0> He doesnt know anything
[17:06] <paulens12> jrib: ok thx.. that's so bad... sourcetree (win/mac) remembers the password and that ends all the efforts..
[17:06] <tasslehoff> Fixed a broken ssh on my server. I added "UseDNS no" to my sshd_config and could no longer log in. Now I
[17:07] <paulens12> jrib: used the instructions on the git site
[17:07] <CHA0> Fucknor
[17:07] <tasslehoff> 'm trying to find out from the logs what I broke, but I see nothing
[17:07] <bazhang> CHA0, stop that
[17:07] <jrib> paulens12: I don't know what that means
[17:07] <CHA0> M a gay
[17:07] <paulens12> jrib: wait a sec
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> chegney, Your conclusions are at best assumptions, and this is not a flag waving channel it is legit support.
[17:07] <chegney> hexacode: go to your local goodwill store and find a monitor for like 5-10 bucks
[17:08] <paulens12> ssh-keygen -t rsa -C "email"
[17:08] <paulens12> then cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[17:08] <chegney> wilee-nilee: I ran that command in the bug and rebooted and it worked, so it is some kernel issue with intel audio
[17:09] <paulens12> jrib: see it?
[17:09] <jrib> paulens12: please use pastebin or use a single line.  Did you do anything else?
[17:09] <chegney> not just that particular machine
[17:09] <paulens12> jrib: uploaded the key to the site
[17:09] <paulens12> jrib: used "Add an SSH Key"
[17:09] <andry> i am kind of bored, any suggestions for a great icon theme? :P
[17:09] <jrib> paulens12: so can you login now over ssh and not get prompted for a password?
[17:09] <paulens12> jrib: i have no idea where to put that key on the client side...
[17:10] <droddie> Are you guys talking about hacking?
[17:10] <paulens12> jrib: i don't know how to log in with that
[17:10] <jrib> paulens12: it's already in the right spot
[17:10] <droddie> Or servering?
[17:10] <paulens12> jrib: i said in the client side? xD
[17:10] <jrib> paulens12: just login how you normally would.
[17:10] <jrib> paulens12: I know
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> droddie, No.
[17:10] <paulens12> jrib: using the ssh url?
[17:10] <jrib> paulens12: is this github or somethnig?
[17:10] <droddie> :P
[17:10] <droddie> mkay
[17:10] <paulens12> like username@serveraddr
[17:10] <paulens12> jrib: no, it's gitlab
[17:10] <jrib> paulens12: sure, ssh user@host
[17:11] <paulens12> jrib: so i run ssh command? sorry, i never used ssh before :/
[17:11] <jrib> paulens12: yes
[17:11] <jrib> paulens12: how did you login before with a password?
[17:11] <paulens12> jrib: just did git pull url
[17:11] <jrib> paulens12: ok
[17:12] <paulens12> jrib: then it asked me for the username and password
[17:12] <crash1hd> if you run a mv command say mv /foo /bar and its running without stopping it and I forgot to do -v is there a way to see its status?
[17:12] <jrib> crash1hd: you could just ls /foo and see how much is left
[17:12] <paulens12> jrib: should i include the git address in the host?
[17:13] <paulens12> jrib: like git.somesite.com or like git.somesite.com:someproject.git?
[17:13] <jrib> paulens12: no; also you may not be allowed to actually get a shell on the host.  I don't know about your server.  You should just specify "git.somesite.com"
[17:13] <crash1hd> jrib, smart right thanks :)
[17:14] <f3rsportas> Best music in the world, http://plug.dj/try-the-best/ welcome to our DJ website. :)
[17:14] <paulens12> jrib: so it asks for password, now i use the regular password"
[17:14] <paulens12> ?
[17:14] <f3rsportas> Best music in the world, http://plug.dj/try-the-best/ welcome to our DJ website. :)
[17:14] <jrib> paulens12: it shouldn't ask for a password if you didn't put a password on your ssh key
[17:14] <paulens12> jrib: i didn't xD
[17:14] <paulens12> jrib: i put my email
[17:15] <jrib> paulens12: as a comment, right?
[17:15] <paulens12> jrib: no, i think i generated it from my email
[17:15] <jrib> paulens12: um, ok
[17:15] <paulens12> jrib: it's like ssh-rsa (a lot of letters)== (my email)
[17:16] <jrib> paulens12: yeah that's just a comment so you can keep track of lots of keys
[17:16] <paulens12> jrib: oh
[17:16] <jrib> paulens12: anyway, if you used the web interface to add your key, try a git pull
[17:16] <paulens12> jrib: but i generated the key with ssh-keygen -t rsa -C (email)
[17:16] <jrib> paulens12: (over ssh)
[17:16] <jrib> paulens12: yes, -C just specificies a comment
[17:17] <paulens12> jrib: ok, i see... but now to try pull, i just do git pull user@host dir?
[17:18] <jrib> paulens12: uh, try a fresh clone instead; it will be easier
[17:18] <jrib> paulens12: git clone ssh://...
[17:18] <paulens12> jrib: no user@host?
[17:18] <nbastin> so, 13.04 changed such that if downloading Packages fails, it doesn't try Packages.gz?
[17:19] <jrib> paulens12: git clone ssh://user@host
[17:20] <paulens12> jrib: nope, permission denied :/
[17:20] <nbastin> if only someone would document these changes
[17:20] <jrib> paulens12: verify you have your private key at ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[17:21] <paulens12> jrib: ok, maybe i'll just contact my project manager later, because i have to go now :/
[17:21] <paulens12> bye
[17:21] <jrib> paulens12: ok
[17:23] <Achilles`> Hi all, anyone got ideas about PIN - Instrumentation? I've placed all the header files in /usr/local/include/ … but I still get errors with the PIN Data types UINT64, VOID, and all the pin calls….. Any ideas?
[17:27] <eer> Why does my /etc/resolv.conf has the entry nameserver 127.0.0.1 and not the IP of the gateway? But still I get to webpages.
[17:28] <eer> Is this correct?
[17:28] <OEP> is there a guide for installing the official nvidia driver without borking it? I can't really find an updated guide for 13.04.
[17:28] <danlee> eer: i think your ubuntu is using dnsmasq, right?
[17:29] <DeepBlue> hi,the system sounds is not working
[17:29] <eer> eer, I have no idea
[17:29] <DeepBlue> i'm not getting any sound alerts
[17:30] <kelly> hello guys
[17:30] <danlee> eer: you can run "ps -ef | grep dnsmasq"
[17:30] <kelly> i need help
[17:31] <rootpt> My wireless doesn't work in my laptop toshiba c855, can some one help me please
[17:31] <kelly> i have a Notebook which I sometimes connect it to a Monitor "hp w2207h". There is nothing in the external monitor what i mean there is no panel,unity launcher .. etc as you can see in the picture, this is the first time i connect my notebook to an external monitor, The question is : How to move panel,unity launcher to the external monitor , i hope you guys understand me.
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, identify the wireless hardware, lspci if internal lsusb if external
[17:32] <eer> danlee, Yes, looks like it.
[17:33] <kelly> any idea guys
[17:33] <DeepBlue>  hi,the system sounds is not working ,i'm not getting any sound alerts
[17:33] <eer> My Ubuntu is kind of slow loading finding web pages. Why could that be? I have a 150Mbit connection. Loading the page is fast but I have to wait like 1-2 seconds ofter until the loading starts.
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> kelly, what picture
[17:33] <danlee> eer: so your ubuntu is using dnsmasq to resolve the dns. That's why /etc/resolv.conf has entry 127.0.0.1
[17:34] <rootpt> 08:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
[17:34] <rootpt> 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[17:34] <eer> danlee, yes
[17:34] <kelly> wilee-nilee, i don't have it now
[17:35] <kelly> wilee-nilee, do you understand my problem
[17:35] <danlee> eer: you may try to add more dns server into /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[17:35] <danlee> like 8.8.8.8
[17:35] <danlee> which is a dns server from Google
[17:35] <danlee> or add the closest dns server from your ISP
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, RTL's are notoriously a problem when they are, here is a link, that's about the best I can do. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604101
[17:37] <eer> danlee, how could that possibly speed it up?
[17:37] <eer> danlee, that would only help is a DNS server is down
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> kelly, open display and see your options there.
[17:38] <rootpt> i will see that, thanks wilee-nilee
[17:38] <OerHeks> eer 1-2 second wait before loading is not unusual
[17:39] <rootpt> wish command to see my kernel version?
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, I think its worth sharing the google search I used. https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&q=RTL8188CE+ubuntu
[17:39] <danlee> eer: your dns resolving slowness might be due to using dns server which is far away from you
[17:39] <rootpt> wilee-nilee thanks again nam :-\
[17:40] <rootpt> how can I see my current kernel version
[17:40] <eer> danlee, I don't have an dnsmasq.conf
[17:41] <OEP> rootpt: uname -vr
[17:41] <rootpt> thanks OEP
[17:41] <eer> danlee, only an /etc/dnsmasq.d/ dir
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> rootpt,  uname -a the google search does not resolve correctly in FF here it is again, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=RTL8188CE+ubuntu&gbv=1&sei=ryxcUtfnGMXiiAKE-IHIBA
[17:42] <rohit> hii
[17:43] <qum> I am trying to install skype in ubuntu 12.04 from ubuntu-tweak. I got some error:"The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." Any help?
[17:43] <danlee> eer: you can change your dns server in Network Manager
[17:44] <eer> danlee, what is the file?
[17:44] <bekks> qum: Thats a notice, not an error. You have to decide yourself wether you want to install packages from not authenticated sources.
[17:44] <danlee> There is a icon on the top right corner
[17:44] <qum> bekks, nope mate. can only close the window. I don't have any options.
[17:45] <OerHeks> qum maybe you need to enable ubuntu partner repository
[17:45] <qum> OerHeks, maybe) How?
[17:46] <OerHeks> qum softwarecenter > edit > sources
[17:46] <bazhang> !partner | qum
[17:46] <au_> hi, sound doesn't work, 12.04, what can I do? :) :O
[17:47] <bazhang> !audio | au_
[17:47] <SkinArt1973_> joining channel
[17:48] <au_> bazhang: thanks
[17:49] <SkinArt1973> joining channel
[17:50] <oal> Any ideas why Dovecot won't start after installing dovecot-postfix? Any error files I can check?
[17:50] <oal> Postfix starts as expected
[17:52] <au_> hi, playing aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav works but I can't hear any sound from youtube or other other applications :(
[17:53] <au_> sound -> applications there's only alsa-plugin and it's on
[17:53] <OEP> as best I can tell, I should install nvidia-304 or nvidia-319 to get my graphics card working optimally, yet both these packages hang the system upon boot
[17:53] <SkinArt1973> joining channel
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> SkinArt1973  stop that "joining channel" script, please
[17:55] <edge731> hello, friends, can somebody help me debugging something with mi graphics card?
[17:56] <edge731> im not very experienced on this
[17:56] <au_> anyone to help me with sound?
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> OEP, I'm not real up on graphic drivers, however those that get help give more details, for example if you have dual graphic cards, hardware essentially.
[17:57] <SonikkuAmerica> edge731: What's your card.
[17:57] <DeepBlue>  hi,the system sounds is not working ,i'm not getting any sound alerts
[17:57] <OEP> wilee-nilee: nothing too special thought it's a single GTX 660 I believe
[17:57] <gordonjcp> DeepBlue: can you get media playback sound?
[17:57] <gordonjcp> DeepBlue: like if you play videos?
[17:59] <OEP> well at the very least nouveau is working, hooray for it
[17:59] <edge731> i´ just noticed that there are updates pendign, maybe there is a fix, lets se (it started yesterday)
[18:00] <DeepBlue> gordonjcp:  yep
[18:00] <rootpt> wilee-nilee can u see this error when i try to "make install" that download
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, I'm not your help on this wireless issue directly.
[18:03] <gordonjcp> DeepBlue: there is a setting to mute those annoying boings and beeps
[18:03] <gordonjcp> DeepBlue: maybe yours is muted, check the sound settings
[18:04] <rootpt> wilee-nilee sorry ?
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, Read my posts to you I already stated my limitations
[18:05] <rootpt> ok..
[18:05] <rootpt> can someone give me a little help on this http://pastebin.com/b9mKGEGT
[18:05] <rootpt> please.
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, If I new this stuff I would help, I doubt you want me guessing. ;)
[18:06] <DeepBlue> gordonjcp: i checkd,allcontrollers r ser 2 over 59,none is muted
[18:07] <DeepBlue> gordonjcp: i checkd,all controllers r set 2 over 59,none is muted
[18:07] <rootpt> wilee-nilee u'right mate, sorry and thanks for all
[18:07] <ienic> hello
[18:11] <drmagoo> rootpt, 2 questions, do you have the package "build-essential" installed and did you do a "make" before the "make install" ?
[18:12] <Pici> 70
[18:13] <Butch128> I've got a server email spam issue - disabled sendmail, however, something keep filling up /var/spool/mqueue-client - any way to find out what it submitting the mail jobs?
[18:13] <DJ_Unibob> quick question.  Does 13.04 support P/S2 keyboards if the motherboard has a P/S2 kb and M port?
[18:13] <cgtdk> DJ_Unibob: works fine for me
[18:13] <Pici> DJ_Unibob: I don't see any reason why it shouldn't.
[18:13] <buu> Butch128: Is it something running locally?
[18:13] <DJ_Unibob> hmmm, alright.  It's only temporary while I do some heavy cleaning of my USB keyboard.
[18:14] <Butch128> buu: there is a production site running apache.  I cannot disable it, unfortunately (production site)
[18:14] <buu> Butch128: Sorry I don't actually know much about mqueue-client, I was just wondering if you could use lsof or something to see what is actually opening that file
[18:14] <Butch128> this is my running process list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:15] <Butch128> buu: mqueue-client is just where emails are queued up for mailing
[18:15] <MariusIT> test
[18:15]  * MariusIT test
[18:15] <Johnny_Linux> ing
[18:16]  * MariusIT salute thumbs with respect.
[18:18] <qum> sdfsd
[18:18] <rosshsr> running 13.04 dual boot with windows 8, everytime i boot ubuntu from GRUB it turns the brightness down to zero on my lenovo ideapad, anyone know a quick fix?
[18:19] <rootpt> drmagoo i have the build-essential installed and yes, i did sudo su then make and give erros and then make install to test and give me those errors too
[18:20] <edge731> well, i updated and it didnt fix the problem
[18:20] <drmagoo> rootpt, can you pastebin the errors from the 'make'
[18:20] <rootpt> just 1 min drmagoo
[18:20] <thumpba> how do i fix this perl: warning for local settings
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> !details | edge731
[18:20] <edge731> i explain my situation: i have a AMD hd 3200 M , and yesterday i shutted down my computer the bad way
[18:20] <thumpba> http://hastebin.com/wimoqeqere.sm
[18:21] <edge731> after that im not able to enter unity, im from xfce now
[18:21] <thumpba> I'm on 13.04
[18:21] <edge731> and when i make a glxinfo, it says that there are no devices
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> edge731, All in one line.
[18:21] <edge731> but in lshw my cards appears
[18:21] <edge731> sorry
[18:22] <edge731> ubuntu 13.10
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | edge731
[18:23] <rootpt> drmagoo -> http://pastebin.com/ZVR3UCWf
[18:23] <ananth> connect chat.facebook.com
[18:23] <edge731> ubuntu 13.10, unity does not work, xfce does, lshw shows card, glxinfo not, i already tried using old kernels from grub, there is a package i should reconfigure, thats related to my card? (i know, i maded a distro ugrade like from 3 months ago)
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> edge731, #ubuntu+1 is the 13.10 channel.
[18:24] <rootpt> drmagoo wait i've made a mistake 1 min
[18:25] <edge731> wilee-nilee: okey, going
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> edge731, cool a little slower there, and good help.
[18:26] <rootpt> drmagoo http://pastebin.com/GP21qmah
[18:27] <Pessimist> ks
[18:27] <Pessimist> My CPU usage is around 20-30% and ubuntu is sluggish, slow. Any tips to increase performance? Nvidia blob, ubuntu 12.04.3, all packages updated
[18:28] <yeik> Pessimist, what cpu do you have?
[18:29] <drmagoo> rootpt, you know that there is a newer release of compat-wireless ? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/#compat-wireless_stable_releases
[18:29] <Pessimist> The window manager feels kinda slow. yeik, http://pastebin.com/e8WGwBGU
[18:30] <rootpt> is that ok for "toshiba C855 RTL8188CE ubuntu 13.04"
[18:30] <rootpt> ?
[18:31] <jjosh> eclipse kepler menu ?? doesnt work with unity ? any fixes ?
[18:34] <drmagoo> rootpt, hang on, let me download the file and see if I can compile it.
[18:35] <rootpt> drmagoo is that ok for "toshiba C855 RTL8188CE ubuntu 13.04" 08:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01)
[18:35] <rootpt> ok thanks
[18:35] <drmagoo> rootpt, hang on a sec ...
[18:37] <rootpt> drmagoo ok, thanks.
[18:39] <Pessimist> Can it just be that my pc has old cpu socket / old ram (as in the technology aspect) that makes unity run slow?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> Pessimist, how much ram?
[18:40] <Pessimist> wilee-nilee, 2gb
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> Pessimist, kinda low for 64 bit, you might try a lighter desktop.
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> Pessimist, Install htop and see whats eating the cpu.
[18:43] <LuciusFox> Hello. Can somebody help me with an "apt-get" issue?
[18:43] <Pessimist> wilee-nilee, kernel on my system is 32bit. Cpu usage almost never exceeds 50%. The windows manager just feels slow, animations, moving windows, unity menu are not as smooth as it should be
[18:44] <jrib> LuciusFox: say the actual issue
[18:44] <Pessimist> brb
[18:46] <LuciusFox> i was installing many packages at once with "apt-get install", but lost internet connectivity when some packages were still to be downloaded. now i cannot install those remaining packages
[18:46] <Kalel> Greetings.
[18:46] <Kalel> LuciusFox: Yes, you can.
[18:46] <LuciusFox> Internal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap
[18:47] <Kalel> LuciusFox: Just run the same 'apt-get install...' be sure you're online.
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> LuciusFox, You might have to run sudo apt-get -f install
[18:48] <LuciusFox> yes, i am online. i installed some other programs. but while installing those packages it says "Internal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap
[18:48] <LuciusFox> "
[18:48] <Kalel> LuciusFox: If doesn't works, try apt-get install -f
[18:49] <Kalel> I want to change the theme icon just inhte systray..
[18:49] <Kalel> ..in the systrey.
[18:51] <drmagoo> rootpt, i think i have a solution for you =)
[18:52] <rootpt> drmagoo tell me please
[18:52] <drmagoo> rootpt, how well do you know 'vi' ?
[18:52] <rootpt> i prefer nano
[18:52] <rootpt> :X
[18:52] <xtriz> what does iirc means ?
[18:52] <rootpt> not very well but i can try
[18:52] <Pici> xtriz: if I recall correctly.
[18:53] <pheex> guys!? can someone help me with a hacking challenge??
[18:53] <Rena> anyone knows when Lubuntu 13.10 is to come out?
[18:53] <SonikkuAmerica> !13.10
[18:53] <Rena> cool thanks
[18:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Rena: ^
[18:54] <Mathisen> pheex ?
[18:55] <drmagoo> rootpt, ok, that will work =) make sure you edit the following files with 'nano -w [file]'. in the main directory there is a file called pci.h on line 247 it says (among other things) __devinit. remove just the __devinit part, leave the rest and then in the rtl8188ee directory you need to edit the file sw.c and search for __devinitdata. remove just that part *__devinitdata' leave the rest of the code there...
[18:55] <rootpt> ok
[18:55] <rootpt> i will try
[18:55] <drmagoo> rootpt, these is because of some change in the 3.x kernel that doesnt "handle/like" __devinit... dont ask me why ;)
[18:56] <rootpt> and tell u something
[18:56] <Pici> pheex: Its likely not on-topic for this channel.
[18:56] <rootpt> =)
[18:56] <rootpt> brb
[18:56] <rootpt> i will do that
[18:56] <drmagoo> rootpt, good luck
[18:56] <pheex> Pici: sorry
[18:56] <rootpt> thanks
[18:58] <Guest77832> ll
[18:58] <DeepBlue> hi,the system sounds is not working ,i'm not getting any sound alerts
[18:59] <reisio> DeepBlue: you getting any audio?
[18:59] <DeepBlue> reisio: yep nut no beebs
[19:00] <reisio> from what do you want a beep?
[19:00] <DeepBlue> <  reisio: yep but no beeps
[19:00] <qum> I played with the ubuntu-tweak and now i don't have any mouse action on desktop, for an example clicking right mouse button would popup a menu. I think restart will solve(maybe) but is there another way?
[19:00] <DeepBlue> reisio:  4 xchat
[19:01] <jrib> qum: you probably disabled nautilus from drawing your desktop
[19:01] <qum> jrib, how do i enable it back?
[19:01] <reisio> DeepBlue: on the 'Sound' item you can specify what application to play a sound with
[19:01] <reisio> DeepBlue: might I recommend mplayer
[19:01] <kam> sup ubuntu, i set a command that's something like "exec=/opt/to-executable" path, how do I reverse that?
[19:01] <reisio> kam: how'd you set it?
[19:02] <jrib> qum: use ubuntu-tweak?
[19:02] <kam> command line reisio
[19:02] <reisio> kam: with what command
[19:02] <rootpt> drmagoo after that, in the rtl8188ee directory i do "make" and seems to do all fine.. but when i try to do make install it says: make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop.
[19:02] <kam> "Exec=/opt/eclipse/eclipse"
[19:02] <reisio> kam: open a new tab, close old one?
[19:02] <kostkon> DeepBlue, "paplay" for external app or "canberra-gtk-play -f"
[19:03] <kam> then I used "sudo ln -s /opt/eclipse/eclipse"
[19:03] <drmagoo> rootpt, hang on
[19:03] <rootpt> ok
[19:03] <kam> reisio: yes, I followed the directions on the wrong blog
[19:03] <reisio> kam: sudo ln -s /opt/eclipse/elipse shouldn't do anything
[19:03] <kam> rather, I need to set the path to a different file all together.
[19:03] <Kalel> How can I set an icon just for systray?
[19:04] <kam> I created eclipse.desktop file that went into my applications folder, which is the icon I need to drop in my desktop
[19:04] <kriskropd> how might I use mailx to check an imap inbox for new messages as a binary output?
[19:05] <drmagoo> rootpt, you do make in the rtl8188ee directory, then go down one step to the main directory and do make install there
[19:05] <bekks> drmagoo: You never ever do make install. You use checkinstall instead.
[19:05] <rootpt> drmagoo ok i will try
[19:05] <drmagoo> bekks, ok =)
[19:06] <drmagoo> rootpt, do as bekks said. checkinstall
[19:06] <rootpt> an error drmagoo
[19:06] <bekks> rootpt: Which error?
[19:06] <rootpt> w8
[19:07] <kam> reisio: is it not possible to do it?
[19:07] <rootpt> i need to install checkinstall first to do like bekks says
[19:08] <reisio> kam: what?
[19:08] <bekks> rootpt: Then do so.
[19:08] <DeepBlue> reisio: good  idea except that i'm enterrupted every time i get alerts
[19:09] <kam> to reverse "Exec=/opt/..." because now I have the executable sitting in my Home dir
[19:09] <rootpt> but the error is this one, wait.. puting on bash
[19:09] <rootpt> drmagoo http://pastebin.com/f4TdjZAr
[19:10] <DeepBlue> kostken, this was helpful  ,thnx
[19:10] <reisio> DeepBlue: hrmm?
[19:10] <bekks> rootpt: Dont do make install. You may mess up your system when doing it without checkinstall.
[19:10] <reisio> kam: what part of reversing it is confusing you?
[19:11] <DeepBlue> reisio:  u 2
[19:11] <kam> reisio: how do I unmake the command "Exec=/opt..." How do I reverse it? do I do "NotExec=/opt.."
[19:11] <rootpt> bekks ok, im always learning thanks
[19:11] <bjensen82> Im trying to make a bootable usb to install ubuntu 12.04 with. Can someone point me to a resource on how to make the bootable usb using a mac?
[19:12] <reisio> bjensen82: http://unetbootin.sf.net/
[19:12] <drmagoo> rootpt, there is a __devinit line in pci.c also that you need to edit. same thing there just remove the __devinit part leave the rest of the line
[19:12] <Pici> kam: if you're talking about setting the environment variable 'Exec', then just do unset Exec
[19:12] <rootpt> in wich directory ?
[19:12] <kam> Pici: Ah! thank you!
[19:13] <rootpt> the 1º one ?
[19:13] <reisio> using exec the way he ran it wouldn't persist
[19:13] <reisio> I'm not sure it'd even work
[19:14] <drmagoo> rootpt, yes in the main directory
[19:20] <rootpt> drmagoo can u tell me the line number?
[19:20] <yan__> hi, could somebody help me finding out why my processor is very busy all the time? it's new since a couple of days. top tells me no large processes, but %sy is constantly between 30 and 60. any way I can find out which process is causing this?
[19:20] <rootpt> drmagoo its ok, i find it
[19:20] <drmagoo> rootpt,  ok =)
[19:20] <bekks> yan__: "top"
[19:21] <yan__> bekks: I tried top, but as I said: "top tells me no large processes, but %sy is constantly between 30 and 60."
[19:22] <bekks> yan__: Then pastebin the output of "ps aux" please.
[19:22] <rootpt> drmagoo after that, reboot?
[19:22] <rootpt> the checkinstall was sucessfull
[19:22] <bekks> rootpt: Then install the resulting .deb
[19:23] <rootpt> bekks ? :X wheres that?
[19:23] <bekks> rootpt: In the directory where you ran checkinstall...
[19:23] <yan__> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6237384/
[19:23] <rootpt> i've got no debian packs there
[19:24] <Aniar> i have a laptop running Kubuntu 13.04 (upgrade from 12.?? . I had a disk problem, so I booted to a kubuntu 13.04 live CD to do the backup/restore to new disk... in the livecd boot, I noticed I had gotten an IPv6 address from AT&T (finally) which I need for some testing...
[19:24] <Aniar> when I got back into my normal install... no ipv6 addresses have been recieved.
[19:25] <Aniar> sysctl.conf has only uncommented entries.  I'm using network manager, and IPv6 is enabled on both connctions (wireless and wired)
[19:25] <bekks> yan__: kioslaves from KDE are running wild as it seems.
[19:25] <Aniar> (wired is where I noticed it picked up on the livecd)
[19:25] <Aniar> nothing in /etc/network/ mentioning ipv6... so what am I missing that needs to be changed to get ipv6 working on this system?
[19:25] <yan__> bekks: hm, what are kioslaves?
[19:25] <Aniar> i have link local addresses, just not the router-assigned ones
[19:26] <yan__> bekks: funny, it just stopped, but I don't know why
[19:26] <bekks> yan__: Some internal kde stuff :) I used KDE too long ago, I cant remember more specifically.
[19:26] <bekks> yan__: then you closed some program?
[19:27] <yan__> bekks: hehe, ok. no, right now i didn't close anything. before, i closed everything, but %sy stayed up
[19:27] <yan__> bekks: strange
[19:27] <Jordan_U> Aniar: What makes you think that your router/modem/ISP supports ipv6? Can you pastebin the output of "route -n"? and "ifconfig"?
[19:27] <yan__> bekks: how did you notice that kioslaves might be the problem?
[19:28] <Aniar> because every CentOS and Windows box got an IPV6 address.  Because in the LiveCD, I got an IPv6 address.  Because I asked AT&T to assign me one, which they did, which is where I got the address subnet
[19:28] <drmagoo> rootpt, no errors from checkinstall ? can you do a ls in the main directory and also include the output from from checkinstall into a pastebin
[19:28] <Aniar> from the system I'm running irssi on: inet6 addr: 2602:306:31db:
[19:28] <rootpt> drmagoo ok
[19:28] <Aniar> Jordan_U: that's not link-local - that's a real assigned address.
[19:30] <bekks> yan__: lines 165-167 in your pastebin
[19:30] <rootpt> im seeying a error in the final of the checkinstall
[19:31] <yan__> bekks: ah ok. it might have to do with akregator.. i'll check. thanks a lot!
[19:31] <rootpt> i will paste in pastebin
[19:31] <Jordan_U> Aniar: And the output?
[19:32] <eer> What exactly does it mean when the gateway in the routing table is 0.0.0.0 ? That doesn't make sense to me.
[19:32] <eer> How can a gateway be anyting?
[19:32] <Aniar> Jordan_U: They're useless because they have only link-local addresses
[19:32] <magdur> guys when will be released ubuntu 13.10?
[19:32] <rootpt> drmagoo http://pastebin.com/gfaxuQG6
[19:32] <cgtdk> magdur: oct. 17th
[19:33] <eer> Is it safe to say that when gateway is 0.0.0.0 that entry is a LAN address then?
[19:33] <bekks> eer: Whats the entire output? Pastebin it please.
[19:33] <Jordan_U> Aniar: If there's no ipv6 default gateway then that's your problem.
[19:33] <bekks> eer: And no, thats neither safe, nor true.
[19:33] <magdur> should am i upgrade 13.04 from 13.10 ?
[19:34] <Aniar> Jordan_U: to recap another way: I've always had link-local (FE80::) addresses in my environment.  AT&T gave me an assigned IPv6 subnet last week, configured their end of my router. Today my whole Unix/Windows lab is picking up those auto-configured IPv6 addresses from that network.  Except my laptop, and only when my laptop is in my upgraded 13.04 build.  When I booted it from the liveCD, it got an address.
[19:34] <Aniar> Jordan_U: so, to recap: only 1 system of 18 is broken
[19:34] <Aniar> Jordan_U: the one that's broken is the only system in the lab that was an upgrade rather than a clean build.
[19:35] <eer> bekks, http://pastebin.com/T3C32xU7
[19:35] <Aniar> Jordan_U: so, *my* analysis (which I admin could be wrong) is that I have something misconfigured on this local machine.  But I don't know what
[19:35] <TheAvatar> Hello. I am trying to extend a partition that resides on vmware and using lvm. I extended the physical disk (vmware), but now I try to remove and extend the extended partition. Right now it resides from block 501760, but when I delete it, and try to recreate it, it refuses to start until 503806. What am I missing here?
[19:35] <bekks> eer: And which line is unclear?
[19:36] <cgtdk> magdur: you should probably wait until it is released, and I'd wait a couple of weeks after it is released
[19:36] <eer> bekks, all
[19:36] <drmagoo> rootpt, you do get an error.
[19:36] <eer> 0.0.0.0 means any address, right?
[19:36] <bekks> eer: then please read "man route".
[19:36] <Aniar> Jordan_U: I took a guess...      8   768 ACCEPT     ipv6-icmp    any    any     anywhere             anywhere             ipv6-icmp router-advertisement
[19:37] <Aniar> Jordan_U: and it worked
[19:37] <eer> bekks, where in man route does it explain about the 0.0.0.0 value ?
[19:37] <drmagoo> rootpt, you need to edit all the sw.c-files in every subdirectory... I think that is the easiest way, instead of messing about with the makefile
[19:37] <eer> bekks, can't find the spot
[19:37] <bekks> eer: Then read the entire man page please.
[19:38] <eer> is Author the end of the man page?
[19:38] <Guest65580> hey friends ,  i  cant record sound from spotify with audacity ... dont know what i am doing wrong ...  i can see spotify in pulse controler  but no visuals for playing sound
[19:38] <rootpt> drmagoo u're right :-\
[19:38] <rootpt> im sick of this
[19:38] <rootpt> :X
[19:39] <reisio> eer: usually
[19:39] <drmagoo> rootpt, I can fully understand that... this is the boring part with drivers
[19:39] <unkmar> How long is a release supported?
[19:39] <bekks> unkmar: Depends on the exact release.
[19:40] <tgm4883> unkmar, 9 months starting with 13.04 for non-LTS releases. 5 years for LTS releases
[19:40] <eer> Anybody knows the man page where the value 0.0.0.0 in regards to routing is explained?
[19:40] <unkmar> tgm4883: and LTS's are the x.04 ???
[19:40] <bekks> eer: How about reading the entire man page to basically understand routing?
[19:40] <tgm4883> unkmar, no, LTS are the x.04 every other year. (eg. 10.04, 12.04, 14.04)
[19:41] <lmat> Is there an easy way to search http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[19:41] <tgm4883> bekks, I've not read the backlog, so feel free to tell me to buzz off, but this is starting to sound a lot like RTFM, which I think is frowned upon
[19:42] <rootpt> drmagoo i think i will need to start to think to use another distro :-\
[19:42] <tgm4883> lmat, go to google and do "site:irclogs.ubuntu.com WORDS TO SEARCH FOR"
[19:42] <drmagoo> rootpt, Im afraid that you will have the same issue with any distro. When it comes to the Realtek drivers
[19:43] <eer> If I enter netstat -tuna I get for example 0.0.0.0:80 for local address. Meaning a web server is running. But why 0.0.0.0 and not 127.0.0.1 ?
[19:43] <rootpt> geez
[19:43] <TheAvatar> eer, because 0.0.0.0 means all available interfaces. 127.0.0.1 is only local host
[19:43] <tgm4883> eer, in some instances, 0.0.0.0 means listen on any interface. This is not always the case
[19:43] <rootpt> this will always be like this?
[19:43] <TheAvatar> eer, if it said 127.0.0.1, which is very much possible, there is no way anybody externally (lan+internet) can access it
[19:44] <eer> TheAvatar, so for testing purposes on a test machine. Now I understand.
[19:44] <TheAvatar> eer, say, you have 2 network cards, and/or multiple ip addresses on the machine. 0.0.0.0 means it will bind (and hence reply) on both nics and all IP-addresses (more or less)
[19:44] <eer> TheAvatar, thx
[19:45] <rootpt> drmagoo i used kali-linux before install ubuntu 13.04 and it was nice.. wireless running very well...
[19:45] <TheAvatar> eer, depending on what you test, you would hardly want e.g. a webserver to bind on 127.0.0.1, but of course, it is possible, and in some scenarios, you might want that
[19:45] <eer> So 0.0.0.0 can be translated into English like: all installed network cards and their IP addresses?
[19:45] <bekks> eer: No.
[19:45] <bekks> eer: It strongly depends on the context.
[19:46] <TheAvatar> eer, well, as a newbie question, I guess you could say yes, but the answer is no
[19:46] <drmagoo> rootpt, Havent tried that distro. =)
[19:46] <TheAvatar> eer, it is not as straight forward, but I guess in most cases, that translation would be somewhat correct
[19:46] <eer> ok
[19:47] <tgm4883> TheAvatar, I believe the context he is asking about is the routing table
[19:47] <reisio> eer: ok
[19:47] <rootpt> i read somewhere a dude have this error like me, and then he install mint and never get that error again, it is possible?
[19:47] <rootpt> drmagoo i read somewhere a dude have this error like me, and then he install mint and never get that error again, it is possible?
[19:47] <lmat> tgm4883: Thanks.
[19:47] <reisio> rootpt: unfortunately never ever ends, so one can't say
[19:47] <tgm4883> lmat, yw
[19:48] <TheAvatar> tgm4883, okay - I did actually join in the middle of the discussion. People just sounded reluctant to help
[19:48] <TheAvatar> eer, if we are talking routing wise, it means something else, yes
[19:48] <drmagoo> rootpt, not sure.. As I understand it it, the problem should be related to the Kernel-version and no the distro... But I'm only running Ubuntu on my boxes so I can test and verify on another distro
[19:48] <tgm4883> TheAvatar, i've not been here since the beginning either, but bekks knows what going on
[19:48] <unkmar> tgm4883: bekks:  that is what I expected to hear and not exactly what I want to hear.  Not my fault previous sys/admin installed 10.10  a non LTS.
[19:48] <eer> ok, thx
[19:48] <unkmar> Thank you.
[19:48] <rootpt> drmagoo i see :-\
[19:49] <tgm4883> unkmar, yea, I've inherited a situation much like that as well
[19:49] <rootpt> i don't know what to do drmagoo
[19:49] <TheAvatar> basically, it means all other networks that you do not have any routes (or locally) access to. So guess it could translate into anything-not-known. Others correct me if I'm wrong if this is not the basic way of explaining it
[19:49] <rootpt> i really need my laptop
[19:49] <drmagoo> rootpt, if you want it to work you need to edit the last sw.c files and then hope for the best..=)
[19:49] <TheAvatar> tgm4883, aha okay, I just read his replies as "what a noob question, go RTFM" ;)
[19:50] <rootpt> edit the files and erase that evident word ?
[19:50] <drmagoo> rootpt, yes... make sure that you get the entire word but leave the rest of that line intact
[19:51] <rootpt> drmagoo ok
[19:51] <rootpt> and
[19:51] <rootpt> can i downgrade the version of the kernel? to try to solve this problem ? drmagoo
[19:52] <drmagoo> rootpt, I think you'll run into other issues then.. easiest is just to do these last few edits
[19:52] <nightmare365> higuys i have a problem with ubuntuand my keeeyboard i have to lonnng press keeeeeeys so as to type please help
[19:53] <rootpt> drmagoo where is that file?
[19:53] <nightmare365> tt1 and thhhhhhhhhe others are working fine
[19:53] <drmagoo> rootpt, in each rt* subdirectory there is a sw.c file... you need to edit each of them
[19:54] <nightmare365> higuys i have a problem with ubuntuand my keeeyboard i have to lonnng press keeeeeeys so as to type please help
[19:54] <nightmare365> tt1 and thhhhhhhhhe others are working fine
[19:55] <rootpt> ok drmagoo
[19:55] <drmagoo> rootpt,  I need to logoff now.. hope that you solve this issue now.. good luck
[19:56] <eegore> ok why did medibuntu get shut down
[19:57] <Yowl> Is there a way to make GParted give a label or change a label of a existing partition?
[19:58] <tgm4883> eegore, because nobody is maintaining it and it's not usually necessary anymore
[19:58] <reisio> Yowl: probably, right click?
[19:58] <eegore> I got a netbood I can't get configured to run streams
[19:58] <Yowl> reisio: Seems no
[19:59] <rootpt> drmagoo i've done that, and the checkinstall runs beauty, sucessfull
[19:59] <nightmare365> higuys i have a problem with ubuntuand my keeeyboard i have to lonnng press keeeeeeys so as to type please help
[19:59] <cgtdk> !patience | nightmare365
[19:59] <reisio> Yowl: e2label, ntfslabel, swaplabel, dosfslabel
[19:59] <rootpt> but then , installing debian package.... FAILED!
[20:00] <nightmare365> sorry its just ffffffffffrustrating typing like ths
[20:00] <Yowl> reisio: Other programs to try?
[20:01] <MangaKaDenza> uh oh
[20:01] <MangaKaDenza> can someone help me?
[20:01] <MangaKaDenza> See
[20:01] <Yowl> Is there a easy way to transfer my /home onto a partition when it didn't have it's own  partition before?
[20:01] <MangaKaDenza> I want to use airmon-ng , but every time I initiate it, it crashes my desktop
[20:04] <rootpt> bekks can u see this error http://pastebin.com/ePUamEfV
[20:04] <rootpt> in the end of file
[20:04] <rootpt> when i try to run dpkg -i file
[20:06] <C0mm4nd3r> hi guys
[20:07] <redking> hi guys so i have managed to create a new user account and the keyboard is working
[20:08] <redking> what could make the other user account not work ?
[20:08] <C0mm4nd3r> i have a problem with my creative sound blaster (audio)
[20:08] <C0mm4nd3r> can you help me ?
[20:08] <C0mm4nd3r> thanks
[20:08] <MangaKaDenza> k
[20:09] <Yowl> How do I use gparted to make one partition out of two sets of unallocated space on the same drive?
[20:10] <vlt> Yowl: Don’t think that’s possible with classic partitions.
[20:10] <Yowl> vlt What do you mean by classic partitions?
[20:11] <vlt> Yowl: But you can get one usable voume (as always) with LVM.
[20:11] <Psil0Cybin> AN
[20:11] <BluesKaj> C0mm4nd3r. creative usually uses intel hda audio  , alsmixer should show that
[20:11] <BluesKaj> alsamixer
[20:11] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys im having a problem updating ubuntu 12.04 it keeps saying im missing repos...but some of them look important
[20:11] <vlt> Yowl: A partition is a defined range on a disk.
[20:11] <Psil0Cybin> can someone help me take a look @ whats going on
[20:11] <vlt> Yowl: Two separate ranges are at least two partitions.
[20:12] <vlt> Yowl: *volume
[20:12] <Psil0Cybin> can someone please help me and tell me what is going on http://pastebin.com/n3PgMqVm why am i having problems updating my repos
[20:12] <Yowl> vlt: If its two partitions, how can it also be one useable volume?
[20:12] <vlt> Yowl: With LVM for example.
[20:12] <Yowl> vlt: Please expand on your example
[20:13] <vlt> Yowl: LVM takes any number of "input" devices and you can create any number of "output" devices. Including resizing on the fly ...
[20:14] <Riptide> hewwo
[20:14] <Yowl> vlt You mean merging two partitions so they seem like one, even though they really are two?
[20:15] <vlt> Yowl: LVM is a complete separate layer on top of block devices. You can put anything you like on the blcok devices LVM creates. For example file systems.
[20:15] <Riptide> Does anyone know how to play/run a game called "Super Hot" on Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:16] <Yowl> vlt: So is that a yes or a no?
[20:17] <vlt> Yowl: Technically a "no".
[20:17] <vlt> Yowl: Because (to me) it doesn’t seem like one *partition* but like one new block device.
[20:17] <gordonjcp> Yowl: go and read up on LVM
[20:18] <gordonjcp> Yowl: if it makes sense, great.  If it doesn't, reformat your disk and recreate it without gaps
[20:18] <rootpt> can someone see this error http://pastebin.com/ePUamEfV
[20:19] <Riptide> Does anyone know how to play/run a game called "Super Hot" on Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:19] <Yowl> vlt: If LVM is used to bridge a gap, does that mean you need LVM to maintain that bridge? Like what happens if you install a new OS?
[20:20] <Riptide> anyone?
[20:20] <Riptide> ...
[20:22] <Riptide> anyone?
[20:22] <Riptide> ...
[20:22] <Yowl> vlt are you still there?
[20:22] <bekks> rootpt: The firmware is missing as it looks like.
[20:22] <Riptide> Is anyone there that can help?
[20:23] <tgm4883> !patience | Riptide
[20:23] <Riptide> Ok
[20:23] <Riptide> I shall wait
[20:23] <rootpt> bekks what i need to do? sorry :-\
[20:23]  * Riptide Waiting... :)
[20:23] <craigbass1976> Where are errors going to show up with a mount command?  I don't see anything in /var/log/ that looks likely.  I'm hung up after running mount -a, and it's got to do with some samba shares.
[20:23] <bekks> rootpt: You have to provide that file, I guess.
[20:24] <craigbass1976> Riptide, I missed your question.  Maybe I can answer it while I'm waiting for mine
[20:24] <rootpt> provide to where?
[20:24] <bekks> rootpt: Where it is missing. The full path is shown.
[20:24] <Riptide> ok
[20:25] <Riptide> Does anyone know how to play/run a game called "Super Hot" on Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:25] <vlt> Yowl: Please read on LVM. It creates a layer in the kernel, reads input or source devices (like partitions) and provides output devices.
[20:26] <vlt> Yowl: If you change the OS the new one has to read the physical/source volumes’s header data to provide the created devices.
[20:26] <BluesKaj> Riptide. google is your friend , http://linuxgamecast.com/lgcbbs/index.php?p=/discussion/513/super-hot-has-a-linux-version/p1
[20:26] <Riptide> I went there
[20:27] <Riptide> I dont think it say how to run the file
[20:27] <Yowl> vlt: Would that work with LUKS?
[20:27] <vlt> Yowl: Yes.
[20:28] <rootpt> bekks i have a folder named firmware and another called rtlwifi within
[20:28] <vlt> Yowl: I usually use file systems on lvm on luks on mdraid.
[20:28] <rootpt> and in the rtlwifi there was an file called rtl8192cfwU_B.bin
[20:28] <rootpt> what can i do with bins ?
[20:29] <rootpt> when i do dmesg | grep -e wlan -e rtl
[20:29] <rootpt> it says that that bin is not avaliable
[20:29] <vlt> Yowl: Sometimes I insert a DRBD layer.
[20:30] <rootpt> bekks did u understand what i'm saying? :-\
[20:31] <Nothing_Much> I'm having problems trying to get the unity panel to work :(
[20:32] <Nothing_Much> (The panel that's at the top right corner)
[20:32] <Nothing_Much> nothing shows up, need some help here!\
[20:33] <Nothing_Much> .. anybody?
[20:35] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys can someone help me figure out why alot of my repos are failing it keeps saying to check my internet connection but my internet connection is fine im talking to you guys right now and downloading something
[20:35] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/n3PgMqVm
[20:35] <Psil0Cybin> maybe they are down in general?
[20:35] <Psil0Cybin> although some of them look important
[20:36] <k1l> Psil0Cybin: that are PPAs. please make sure that PPAs still exist and are still maintained.
[20:36] <tgm4883> Psil0Cybin, it looks like the only ones that are down are the private-ppa ones
[20:36] <Psil0Cybin> oh okay nothing that is necessary for ubuntu security updates? I was a little confused
[20:36] <Psil0Cybin> if they are indeed not maintained, how can I remove them?
[20:37] <Psil0Cybin> how do I remove the steam ppa?
[20:37] <Psil0Cybin> for example
[20:37] <bekks> !ppa-purge | Psil0Cybin
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> so how would I find the ppa for steam for example
[20:38] <craigbass1976> Psil0Cybin, Are you on Fairpoint?  They're notorious in my neighborhood (Southern Maine) for dropping out just enough to bork an update.
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> nope Teksavvy from Toronto Canada
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> im on DSL so i never drop out
[20:38] <Corey> Hahaha Fairpoint. I remember those days :-)
[20:38] <Corey> Psil0Cybin: Fairpoint is a DSL company. :-)
[20:39] <Psil0Cybin> oh aha
[20:39] <Psil0Cybin> how would i remove the PPA's or figure out the repos for them?
[20:39] <Psil0Cybin> sorry i am semi new to linux
[20:39] <craigbass1976> Psil0Cybin, Fairpoint was also DSL.  There's a lady at the end of my street, and I pick her laptop up every now and again to run updates at my house.  I moved to another ISP
[20:39] <Psil0Cybin> so i would do sudo ppa-purge ppa:steam ?
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> it says sudo ppa-purge not found
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> command not found
[20:40] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, you want to reomve the steam ppa?
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> yes please
[20:40] <kostkon> repo* to be precise
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> install ppa-purge
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[20:40] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, it's not a ppa, it won't work
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> so how do i remove it?
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> becasue it keeps saying that i cannot update
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> that that i need to check my network connection
[20:41] <Psil0Cybin> when its fine
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> Guys, while installing many packages at once, my internet was disconnected. Some packages were not downloaded. But, now when I try to install THOSE packages, apt gets stuck at "Waiting for headers", ALTHOUGH I can install any other package.
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> sudo apt-get install nmap
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> [sudo] password for abhay:
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> Reading package lists... Done
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> Building dependency tree
[20:41] <FloodBot1> Lucius_Fox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> Reading state information... Done
[20:41] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, try in software sources, in usc select edit -> software sources
[20:41] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, usc -> ubuntu software centre
[20:42] <qum> Who can recommend me some radio clients for ubuntu pls?
[20:42] <Rena> floodbot flood :V
[20:43] <kostkon> Lucius_Fox, i guess it could have an easy solution:  give:  sudo apt-get clean    and then try again
[20:43] <kpuljek> I get a kernel panic, not syncing: no init found after a clean 12.04.3 install, what to do?
[20:44] <Lucius_Fox> Thank you so much!
[20:44] <kostkon> Lucius_Fox, ;)
[20:44] <qum> :DD
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> kostkon: so i would do sudo ppa-purge ppa:
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> oh woops
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> kostkon: http://pastebin.com/n3PgMqVm
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> how can i fix those index files that failed to download
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> :S
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> where do i see software sources
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[20:45] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:47] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, in software sources, remove the steam repo entry and then just uninstall steam if that's what you want to do. i'm saying this because ppa-purge removes the ppa from the software sources and also removes any installed pacakges coming from that repo.
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> like why do i get this Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en_CA  why does it ignore that?
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> when i run sudo apt-get update
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> like i want to remove W: Failed to fetch https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/motorbike/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[20:47]  * Johnny_Linux slaps FloodBot1  for flooding
[20:47] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, but in this case you can't use ppa-purge to remove the steam repo from your software sources
[20:48] <Psil0Cybin> so where is the software sources?
[20:48] <rootpt> bekks its all ok know, i've wireless connection
[20:48] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, don't worry but about the ign lines, and keep your private ppas, don't remove them
[20:48] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, open the software centre, then select edit -> software sources from the menu. that's the easy way
[20:48] <rootpt> Thanks for all
[20:48] <Psil0Cybin> package manger?
[20:49] <Psil0Cybin> so dont doything
[20:49] <Psil0Cybin> im so confused
[20:49] <Psil0Cybin> leave the errors? it keeps saying i have a problem every 35 minutes tho
[20:49] <Psil0Cybin> thank you kostkon :D
[20:49] <Psil0Cybin> now i understand kk
[20:49] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, it fails to contact the server for some reason. it should be temporary
[20:49] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, ok
[20:50] <awktion> lol
[20:51] <Psil0Cybin> okay so if its temp i should leave it as is, atm?
[20:51] <Psil0Cybin> how can i check, sorry im still fairly new to linux even tho iv been using it for a ittle less than a year
[20:51] <Psil0Cybin> i have alot to learn :P
[21:01] <kpuljek> any ideas on how to fix "no init found" error on boot?
[21:04] <mramm2> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At5cjYKYHu9odGpCR0h5YzBrV2JtY3p4b2FVQU5PRmc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
[21:04] <mramm2> oops
[21:04] <mramm2> wrong window
[21:04] <Prideth> I have a problem. I have reinstalled kubuntu and now my desktopmanager does not work ( i have the x symbol and so on not :( )
[21:05] <jhutchins> kpuljek: Your grub configuration is pointing at the wrong device for root.
[21:05] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[21:06] <kpuljek> jhutchins:  but how can it, it's a brand new installation :/
[21:09] <cbilljones> whats the best way to start a program without desktop interface?
[21:13] <buu> cbilljones: ... from a terminal?
[21:14] <gordonjcp> cbilljones: what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:14] <ycsapo> Hi, can anybody please point me at the right channel to talk about ubuntu cloud?
[21:15] <cbilljones> gordonjcp start a x-application on boot without a desktop env. will this work? http://askubuntu.com/questions/310671/start-ubuntu-without-a-desktop-environment-but-start-an-x-application
[21:18] <faugusztin> cbilljones: that still runs X, just without window decorations etc
[21:18] <cbilljones> faugusztin thats what i need
[21:19] <faugusztin> cbilljones: i would still suggest you installing ratpoison or similar window manager, to be able to switch between windows, but yeah, you can do that
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> or somthing tiny like jwm,
[21:20] <faugusztin> cbilljones: ratpoison = http://ratpoison.nongnu.org/
[21:20] <cbilljones> faugustzin i dont want user to be able to switch windows, this is a point of sale software
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> running with no window manger at all can be a real pain in some cases.  and given how tiny some of these wm's are - you dont save a lot on resources
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> ive seen Koisk focused disrtos out there allready premadeup.
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> you have to watch out for dialog box's that may popup. or file requestors. or print dialog box's or other things that might happen
[21:21] <faugusztin> cbilljones: well try out what is in that article you linked, if it won't satisfy your needs you can still try ratpoison etc
[21:21] <cbilljones> faugusztin do you know how i make it autologin to that entry?
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> lightdm has a autologin option, and it will rember the last seleceted session if the user logs out and selects a differnt one. (its stored in the .dmrc file)
[21:24] <faugusztin> cbilljones: depends on your login manager (lightdm/kdm/gdm etc)
[21:24] <faugusztin> cbilljones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-in-lightdm
[21:24] <cbilljones> faugusztin i think i found it, would i adjust /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults --session [session name]? like on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[21:24] <faugusztin> cbilljones: indeed
[21:25] <faugusztin> and session name is the name of the session you manually created
[21:25] <cbilljones> ok i will try, any idea if vino will still run? im not at the office lol
[21:25] <cbilljones> faugusztin ok i will try, any idea if vino will still run? im not at the office lol
[21:26] <faugusztin> cbilljones: no idea, i don't use vino
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> I would be suprised if vino still works if you are using some minimial desktop thats just running one app and no windwo manager
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> You could setup x11vnc perhaps
[21:27] <kalekip1> hey
[21:27] <jmgk> hello
[21:28] <kalekip1> Ever since I dual booted Windows 7 with Ubuntu 13.04 I can't successfully resume my Windows 7 hibernation
[21:28] <kalekip1> Any ideas?
[21:28] <kalekip1> I gives some hex error (something like 0x000001)
[21:28] <bekks> kalekip1: The exact error could be helpfull.
[21:29] <clifter> Is it better to install with using the "Ubuntu Software Center" or from "Terminal" using sudo apt-get install <program> ? ? Advantages or disadvantages to either way ? ?
[21:29] <kalekip1> bekks: Then I would have to hibernate again :/
[21:29] <daysahead5> i prefer apt-get
[21:29] <daysahead5> you should also check out aptitude
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> try not mounting your windows drives in linux at all. that way they are untouched. have windows check the windows partions also.. and id have to suggest check the #windows channel
[21:29] <cbilljones> faugusztin ok i will find out soon, just rebooted; might have to drive to office haha
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> clifter:  depends on if you know what you need. vs wanting to browse an 'app store' interface
[21:29] <bekks> clifter: Same result. Just two different front-ends, one graphical, one text-based.
[21:30] <daysahead5> you can search with apt-get e.g. apt-cache search x11
[21:30] <kalekip1> Dr_Willis: My Windows is on C:\ and Ubuntu on L:
[21:30] <neti_netwalker> kalekip1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1341694
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> clifter:  most of the time - by the time the app store loads.. i got stuff alrleady installing
[21:30] <photon> Hi. Does anyone here know a good way to mirror an NNTP server (all its message contents etc) on Linux? i.e. something like wget for news groups.
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> kalekip1:   2 seperate hard drives? or 2 partitions?
[21:31] <daysahead5> If I updated upstart on ubuntu do I have to restart the system for the new init version to take effect
[21:31] <kalekip1> 2 partitions
[21:31] <Frank81> Hello some one knows a good way to scan a network based on host list or even ip range for a open port and if open do telnet and run some command and log the result to a log file?
[21:31] <bekks> photon: Setup a NNTP server and start receiving regular groups.
[21:31] <kalekip1> Dr_Willis: same drive
[21:31] <kalekip1> neti_netwalker: Will check it out, ty for Googeling
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> kalekip1:  id make fstab entries in linux, and insure that it does not mount any windws drives. that would elimanate  linux being the issue.  of course if you boot/reboot/suspend windows sefveral times in a row with the same problem. and never go to linux inbetween - that would eliminate linux as being the casue also.
[21:33] <kalekip1> Somebody says that changing the boot flag to the first partition would help. How would I do that? Do I have to be on Ubuntu?
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> Frank81:  sounds like somthing you could script with nmap, and bash, or perl/python/awk
[21:33] <kalekip1> I'm not on Windows
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> kalekip1:  gparted can set flags
[21:33] <kalekip1> I am*
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> as for setting it inside windows.. ask on #windows
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> it may allreadybe set
[21:34] <Frank81> ok so i need to write a bash script i tought there is maybe a solution for such tasks
[21:34] <kalekip1> Windows doesn't have root access, so I assume not
[21:34] <Frank81> a advanced scaner or else with guy
[21:34] <Frank81> gui :D
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> kalekip1: Like Dr_Willis said, GParted works
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> Frank81:  theres most likely dozens of examples online of scripts that do similer things.
[21:34] <clifter> Dr_Willis: Yup with you on that. I favor Terminal. Wasn't sure, Thanks much.
[21:35] <kalekip1> but I will ask
[21:35] <kalekip1> ty
[21:35] <Frank81> and a other question i have is does any one in here how i could recive or view news groups
[21:35] <Frank81> like alt.bin and so on?
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> Frank81:  use a news reader app like PAN. but i dont know of any 'free' news group servers lately.  they are getting sort of rare
[21:35] <clifter> bekks: Yup, Thanks.
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> !info pan
[21:36] <Frank81> ya i know i mean i wanna make my own server
[21:36] <Frank81> how does that work they any how need to work
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> there should be some news group serves in the repos.
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> why would you want to run your own. ;)
[21:36] <Frank81> and then simply run em? can i connect em to the others or how do they get data?
[21:36] <Gallomimia> seem to be having serious trouble with my xorg.conf file. following these directions: http://www.unixmen.com/howto-install-ati-display-driver-in-ubuntu/
[21:36] <bekks> Frank81: you need to setup a NNTP server, and register for pulling groups at another NNTP server.
[21:36] <Frank81> i whant free access and don't understand it
[21:36] <Frank81> :D
[21:37] <Frank81> ah and so i probally need to pay the other nntp server so i have content like firstload?
[21:37] <bekks> Frank81: Correct.
[21:38] <Frank81> so newsgroups are nntp networks interisting only know nntp from sending config files to hardware
[21:38] <Frank81> :D
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> running your own server wont give you free access to pay servers
[21:38] <Frank81> i understand
[21:38] <daysahead5> after updating upstart do I have to reboot the system for the new version to take effect?
[21:38] <Frank81> it was only coz as i was young news groups was free
[21:38] <bekks> daysahead5: Yes.
[21:38] <Frank81> and we shared software over that after mailboxes got to slow
[21:38] <Frank81> :D
[21:38] <daysahead5> that's what i thought, thanks bekks
[21:39] <bekks> Frank81: No offense meant, you must be an old man nowadays.
[21:39] <Frank81> :D
[21:39] <Frank81> 32
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> Frank81:  that was ages ago. ;)   Lifehacker had some articals on newsgroups eveyr so often. but i dont mess with them any more
[21:39] <Frank81> i was much into cracking software dongls
[21:39] <Frank81> :D
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> They got so cluttered 10 or so years back - with kids posting rar'd archives that needed passwords and so forth..  got rather annoying
[21:40] <photon> bekks: no, I don't want to actually run an own NNTP server, I just want to mirror the *contents* of the NNTP messages (ie as text files on the hdd). sorry, wasn't clear.
[21:40] <Frank81> but that rar's wasn't from the real releasing scene :D
[21:40] <Frank81> we did never used passwords and now days they don't do too
[21:40] <Frank81> i was leader of Paradox 4 years long
[21:41] <Frank81> and helped in GenesisISO
[21:41]  * Dr_Willis wonders how many blank stares that gets from the channel.
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[21:41] <Frank81> it got packed in multi archives yes but never with passwords
[21:41] <Frank81> then you got repacked stuff from web kids
[21:42] <reisio> Frank81: wow, you are so famous dude
[21:42] <linus> excuse me, I have quetions siiiir
[21:42] <reisio> linus: go
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> linus:  ask away
[21:43] <reisio> there's no free newsgroup access, you have to pay someone, either with money or friendship/etc.
[21:43] <reisio> or yeah you can be nefarious :p
[21:43] <jhutchins> reisio: Some providers still include access.
[21:44] <reisio> providers?
[21:44] <reisio> you're talking about people you pay
[21:44] <reisio> if you pay for something, it isn't free
[21:44] <reisio> that's what free means, not paying
[21:44] <Gallomimia> holy wha... i'm in over my head when it comes to configs for display manager. can anyone point me at an article about the like?
[21:44]  * reisio puts on serious face
[21:44] <reisio> Gallomimia: to do what?
[21:44] <linus> I login with another user, and when I log out I got a blank screen, what's wrong??
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> lifehacker had some reviews of the differnt newsgroup provider services i recall  last year.  companies that did just news group services with the costs/limits. I think some had free limited accounts.
[21:44] <reisio> linus: is there a cursor?
[21:44] <cipherboy> Question. Recently upgrade my system, using Cinnamon on Ubuntu as the default WM, however, it seems to be using KDE window decorations (lighter window border/etc versus default ambiance theme and the black cursor icons when interacting with the window decorations versus default white) Is this a known issue, and suggestions for fixing? Upgraded packages: http://pastebin.com/G9cNeDvv
[21:45] <reisio> Dr_Willis: not for binaries
[21:45] <reisio> maybe to an utterly useless extent
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  never noticed what they provided. im just sayign  theres articals otu that sumarize them all.
[21:45] <reisio> I'm sure
[21:45] <Gallomimia> i've just built a new system and the video drivers are giving me some grief. i've eventually landed on writing an xorg.conf file and finding very little help on it, in manuals and the article i was following
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> Gallomimia:  for the most part the xorg.conf is rarely needed X  auto-configures. Whats the specific video chipset, and problem.
[21:46] <strk> unity 7.0.0 -- just installed with Ubuntu 13.04 -- is not showing me an open terminal window again after switching to another window and back, very frustrating
[21:47] <linus> reisio: I just found 1 blink bling cursor "_"
[21:47] <strk> steps to reproduce: 1. open terminal 2. open firefox 3. click on terminal again (won't go there) -- same with alt-tab, you can select the terminal but there will be no window switch, temrinal will remain hidden forever
[21:47] <Gallomimia> Dr_Willis: i was following the instructions i found in an article, everything went well until i rebooted. now the system has lost the primary menus, the dock, and all windowing operations run like win95 on a 286
[21:47] <reisio> linus: what if you hit CTRL+ALT+F7
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> strk:  you can middle click on the terminal icon in the left side panel to launch a new instance.  but  sounds like some odd bug. try making a brand new user, and see if the issue also affects them
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> strk:  if the new user does not have the same issue. that would point to some quirk in the problem users configs
[21:48] <lmat> reisio: you broke his computer :(
[21:48] <strk> Dr_Willis: I'm indeed runnign a new instance, re-attaching screen from the new, and at that point I can get the list of 2 open terminal, and close the old one
[21:48]  * reisio wins
[21:49] <linus> reisio: nothing happen siirr,
[21:49] <chaotic_good> The following packages have been kept back:
[21:49] <chaotic_good>   linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server
[21:49] <chaotic_good> how do I adjust dis?
[21:49] <gregor30051> hi, i switches a testpc from fedora to ubuntu and it seems that iptables is not so easy. is it real that there are not init scripts and no default store for the iptables config exists?
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade chaotic_good
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> strk:  so the newly made user does not have the sanme problem?
[21:49] <reisio> linus: I'm not sure what happened, but to fix it you probably want to hit CTRL+ALT+F2, log in, sudo service lightdm erstart
[21:49] <reisio> restart*
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> !firewakk | gregor30051
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> !firewall | gregor30051
[21:50] <chaotic_good> well
[21:50] <chaotic_good> I wana stay 12.04lts
[21:50] <linus> reisio: thank you siirr
[21:50] <chaotic_good> but on my other box I got 3.8linux
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> chaotic_good:  and that will stay with 12.04lts
[21:50] <chaotic_good> ok
[21:50] <gregor30051> Dr_Willis: thx
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> it will do a mor eintensive upgrade and upgrade held packages
[21:51] <chaotic_good> hm
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: that will update the kernel, it will not actually trigger a distribution upgrade
[21:51] <strk> Dr_Willis: logout, relogin (same user) fixed it for now
[21:51] <chaotic_good> ok
[21:51] <chaotic_good> why are my other ubuntus 3.8 kernel ?
[21:52] <chaotic_good> this one doesnt seem to wana upgrade
[21:52] <chaotic_good> tot hat
[21:52] <cipherboy> Correction, it appears that it is using a different theme...tried replacing the cinnamon-settings-daemon with gnome-settings-daemon and the cursor is back, and the bulk of window decorations are back except for the very top bar (with the close/etc...however menu bar themeing is gnome again)
[21:52] <Gallomimia> Dr_Willis: you asked for specific chipset? it's a radeon HD 7790
[21:52] <chaotic_good> I mean why does this box not goto 3.8 from 3.2?
[21:52] <chaotic_good> hmm
[21:53] <chaotic_good> is is a old box I inherited but it seems to be 12.04
[21:53] <chaotic_good> hmmm
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: lts will stick with the same versions for stability
[21:53] <chaotic_good> Setting up linux-server (3.2.0.54.64)   yeah see thsi si setting up 3.2
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> moving from 3.2 to 3.8 could trigger stability issues which goes against the reasoning for the distro
[21:53] <chaotic_good> but why do OTHER 12.04 boxen I have goto 3.8 kernel
[21:53] <chaotic_good> ????
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> 12.04.3 is 3.8   .... 12.04  original is 3.2
[21:54] <chaotic_good> oow
[21:54] <chaotic_good> ok how get to 12.04.3???
[21:54] <chaotic_good> :)
[21:55] <rypervenche> chaotic_good: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> rypervenche: that doesn't do what he's asking now
[21:55] <Riptide> Hello
[21:55] <reisio> hi rip
[21:56] <Riptide> I cannot play games on Steam... :/
[21:56] <chaotic_good> ok ran that and no go
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: tbh, it's not somethign i've tried or looked into
[21:56] <chaotic_good> I need to like move to 12.04.3
[21:56] <chaotic_good> somehow
[21:56] <chaotic_good> DAMNIT JIM ima doctor
[21:56] <nightmare365> hi how can i have icons next to the right click menu on nautilus?
[21:56] <Gallomimia> Riptide: me neither. i need to get video drivers working
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> I recall askubntu.com having a few posts on upgrading from 12.04.1 to 12.04.x
[21:56] <Riptide> Whenever i try to play a game, an Error comes up
[21:56] <nightmare365> im on 13.04
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> riptide: what is your    uname -r    graphics chipset and    what drivers are you running right now ( free or proprietary )
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> nightmare365:  i think the gnome devs removed them. Not sure if theres any of the tweak tools that can put them back.
[21:58] <nightmare365> aaw :(
[21:58] <Riptide> Something like: "This application requires either GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, or the GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 + GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3 OpenGL extensions. Please install S3TC texture support"
[21:59] <Riptide> I am on Acer C7... for now
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO>  riptide: what is the output of: uname -r
[22:00] <loa> how i can get better latency using systemd?
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> ritpite: also what graphiv]
[22:00] <Gallomimia> Dr_Willis: I'm of the opinion that the issue with my install is due to the integrated gpu on my motherboard. haven't put in software for that one yet...
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> ritpite: also what graphics chipset do you have?
[22:00] <HateYoFace> anyone know the release date of 13.10?
[22:00] <Riptide> Honestly I dont know
[22:01] <reisio> HateYoFace: 10th month
[22:01] <k1l> !saucy | HateYoFace
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> !saucy | HateYoFace
[22:01] <Riptide> It doesnt say in System Details
[22:01] <HateYoFace> sweet thanks
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> riptide: what is the output of: lspci
[22:01] <chaotic_good> this is why i love archlinux
[22:01] <HateYoFace> and this may be the dumbest question ever but ubuntu is a rolling release correct? i wont have to format and reinstall will i?
[22:01] <cipherboy> By the way, cinnamon version 2.0.2
[22:01] <chaotic_good> non of this boo haa
[22:02] <Riptide> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6238062/
[22:02] <Gallomimia> nah hate that'll work alright without a format
[22:02] <Riptide> The output
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> HateYoFace: you can upgrade your current system
[22:02] <HateYoFace> nice
[22:02] <Riptide> It sucks... doesnt it?
[22:03] <Gallomimia> i think it's the program called do-release-upgrade
[22:03] <k1l> !language
[22:03] <Riptide> ?
[22:03] <ricardobarbosams> anyone using proxy_arp in ubuntu server?
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> riptide: what is the output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> riptide: unfortunately you have a simple intel gpu, which is only suitable for very basic games, what games are you trying to play?
[22:05] <Riptide> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6238071/
[22:05] <Riptide> Gmod
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> riptide: you're gpu can barely handle unity, let alone a game ( I have pentium 947 on this machine )
[22:06] <Riptide> oh
[22:07] <Riptide> I can play SOME games...
[22:07] <backbox> hi all
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> very basic games, that's it. it is not a gpu thats intended for gaming in any form
[22:08] <Riptide> ok
[22:08] <backbox> i want play
[22:08] <Riptide> Any good games out that I my GPU can handle?
[22:08] <HateYoFace> i just started upgrading to 13.10
[22:09] <HateYoFace> play World of warcraft it runs great with wine
[22:09] <Riptide> mkay
[22:09] <Riptide> Oh and one more thing
[22:10] <backbox> il ya des fr ici
[22:10] <Riptide> I got this game called Super Hot and I cannot  run it
[22:10] <Riptide> Any ideas?
[22:10] <chaotic_good> anyone here who already DID upgrade from 12.04 to 12.04.3?
[22:10] <backbox> pas de fr dans ce tchat :(
[22:11] <thwest> i'm using upstart to control a custom daemon. `start foo` works fine, but I can't get the `start on started networking-services` clause working
[22:11] <jhutchins> !fr
[22:11] <Riptide> French?
[22:12] <hitsujiTMO> riptide: if its http://superhotgame.com/ then it runs on the unity engine ond is prob quite cpu and gpu intensice
[22:12] <hitsujiTMO> riptide: if its http://superhotgame.com/ then it runs on the unity engine ond is prob quite cpu and gpu intensice
[22:12] <hitsujiTMO> intensive*
[22:13] <chaotic_good> myth2 wouldnt start in wine for me
[22:13] <chaotic_good> not enuf resources..
[22:13] <chaotic_good> wtf
[22:13] <chaotic_good> 1g ram
[22:13] <Riptide> awww man
[22:14] <linus> so many peoples here
[22:14] <Riptide> But still, i wanna see how it does with my computer. I made it executable and double-clicked it, but nothing happens
[22:15] <linus> Riptide: see permission of executable file, check allow to execute
[22:15] <Riptide> I did
[22:16] <Riptide> ??
[22:18] <Riptide> lol
[22:18] <Riptide> Awkward Silence
[22:20] <chaotic_good> anyone know a email without this shty 25m limit?
[22:20] <chaotic_good> I dont wan dropbox
[22:20] <chaotic_good> damn yahoo
[22:21] <Riptide> ?
[22:21] <k1l> last warning now. enough swearing
[22:21] <nightrid3r> I want to use ipv6 for my lan and connect to an ipv4 only isp. any pointers or appliance like software i can use
[22:21] <jmgk> hi
[22:22] <Riptide> Do I need to have Wine to run Super Hot?
[22:22] <reisio> Riptide: nope
[22:22] <reisio> it uses mono
[22:22] <Riptide> ok
[22:22] <Riptide> Just checking...
[22:22] <reisio> it comes with bundled mono, even
[22:22] <reisio> so you don't even have to have mono installed properly
[22:23] <reisio> although you really should, in a perfect world
[22:23] <Riptide> Its not running
[22:24] <Riptide> I even made it Executable under Permissions...
[22:24] <reisio> run it from a terminal
[22:24] <reisio> see its error msgs
[22:24] <Riptide> How/
[22:24] <reisio> ./foo.x86
[22:25] <Riptide> I am confuzeled
[22:26] <fishscene> Riptide: You'll need to open terminal and "cd" into the directory the game is sitting in. You then run it by typing in "./(name of file)"
[22:26] <lmat> Riptide: Did you try using console ?
[22:26] <OerHeks> Riptide, where is that game located? on a NTFS partition?
[22:27] <linus> you CAN not change permission on NTFS partition
[22:27] <Riptide> This is what happened:
[22:27] <Riptide> ./SUPERHOT-LINUX.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:27] <lmat> Riptide: (I'm not sure how to do much of anything using the mouse) cd to the dir and  stat -c %a fileyouwanttorun
[22:28] <lmat> Riptide: And make sure it's executable. I guess it is if you got that error.
[22:28] <OerHeks> !find  libGLU
[22:29] <Riptide> ?
[22:29] <lmat> OerHeks: coolo!
[22:29] <fishscene> Riptide: OerHeks was running a search for the item that was reporting an error for you.
[22:29] <Riptide> oh
[22:29] <OerHeks> my wild guess would be libglu1-mesa
[22:30] <Riptide> Do I need to install that or something?
[22:30] <fishscene> Sounds about right. Although is it installed and reporting it can't find a resource or is it saying it doesn't exist?
[22:31] <OerHeks> Riptide, for 32 or 64 bit?
[22:32] <Riptide> I have a 64-bit OS
[22:32] <Danny67892> Thats sucks
[22:32] <Riptide> ?
[22:32] <OerHeks> Riptide, try " sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa " if that fails > " sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa:i386  "
[22:33] <Danny67892> medz we should have like a secret lanugauge
[22:33] <Riptide> I tried the first one
[22:34] <Riptide> and it said it was already the  newest version. I did the Second one and it installed some stuff
[22:35] <fishscene> There's a virtual package for libglu1 as well.
[22:35] <akurilin> Is there a way to backup a routing table in case I completely screw it up?
[22:36] <rypervenche> akurilin: rebooting will fix it if you're doing it all from the command line. If you're doing it from files, revert the files back.
[22:36] <akurilin> maybe just save netstat -rn results somewhere and then try to recreate them by hand with route if things go south?
[22:36] <akurilin> rypervenche, where is the routing table in files? I see the docs reference /proc/net/route
[22:36] <akurilin> but I think that's not actually a config file
[22:38] <Riptide> After Installing... what do I do?
[22:38] <Pop-Tart> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS. I wanted to install the drivers for my graphics card, but I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I downloaded the .tgz from https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intel-linux-graphics-installer, extracted it, gave it +x permissions, and then ran sudo ./downgrade.sh Was that the correct thing to do or should I have done sudo apt-get installxserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-raring?
[22:38] <rypervenche> akurilin: You'll need to ask someone else here. I don't use Ubuntu anymore. Might be your interfaces file or something that interacts with it.
[22:39] <akurilin> rypervenche, kk, thanks
[22:39] <yeik> my package manager is broken with libldap not upgrading. anybody able to help look at it?
[22:39] <daftykins> Pop-Tart: why are you trying to use them? are you on a newer intel processor like ivy bridge / haswell
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> Pop-Tart: you tried the ubuhtu repos yet?
[22:40] <rypervenche> akurilin: Editing the file would be for a permanent change. Using things like ip or route would be for changes on-the-fly, but they wouldn't persist a reboot.
[22:40] <Pop-Tart> No, I've got old-ish hardware, and I figured it'd run better if it had the proper drivers
[22:40] <jmgk> hm
[22:40] <Pop-Tart> owner@owner-W3650:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[22:40] <Pop-Tart> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[22:41] <akurilin> rypervenche, sounds good. I'm just trying to figure out why I'm not talking correctly to my VPN subnet, and syslog seems to suggest my messages are being kidnapped by the first entry in the routing table, which sends them nowhere useful
[22:41] <akurilin> rypervenche, so I'll try nuking that for a sec see if that fixes it
[22:42] <Gallomimia> wow. can someone suggest why installing video board drivers has resulted in the gui not displaying my menus or sidebar, or being able to move close or minimize any windows?
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> Pop-Tart: how is it running as of now, are you sure anything needs robe done?
[22:42] <James_Epp> I'm using the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro to boot the ubuntu 12.04.3 desktop live cd over the network. However, the nfs exports table doesn't seem to work no matter what options I use. Could someone assist me?
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> to be*
[22:42] <Pop-Tart> I'll test, could you give me a second, please?
[22:45] <Pop-Tart> It's kinda laggy
[22:46] <Pop-Tart> Video isn't in sync with audio
[22:46] <Pop-Tart> but that could just be bad hardware
[22:47] <Pop-Tart> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=shU4gsAK
[22:47] <Pop-Tart> So is there anything I could do (change drivers, etc) or is it just crap hardware and can't be fixed without upgrading?
[22:50] <Pop-Tart> nevermind
[22:50] <Pop-Tart> It seems to have magically improved on it's own somehow
[22:50] <never2far> i'm trying to clear dnsmasq cache (using kill -HUP or restart) but still serves me from cache ...what do you recommand ? ...thank you
[22:51] <never2far> *recommend
[22:51] <jhutchins> Pop-Tart: The drivers included with ubuntu should be best for that card.
[22:52] <jhutchins> Pop-Tart: Using drivers from some random third-party source is probably a bad idea.
[22:53] <Pop-Tart> gpg: requesting key 75E52366 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[22:53] <Pop-Tart> gpg: key 75E52366: "Rodrigo Vivi (Intel Linux Graphics) <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>"
[22:53] <Pop-Tart> Oh, so what should I do then?
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> Pop-Tart: I would watch what is running, if any thing is eating the cpu or ram, with like htop, should run fine with xfce
[22:53] <Pop-Tart> Is what's on there right now okay, or should I try to re-install the default drivers?
[22:53] <Pop-Tart> I'm actually using xubuntu-desktop
[22:54] <jhutchins> Pop-Tart: I would.
[22:54] <Pop-Tart> Oh boy.
[22:54] <jhutchins> Pop-Tart: For intel processors the stock xorg drivers are usually the best integrated with the OS.
[22:54] <yeik> Pop-Tart, xfce is a good de
[22:54] <Pop-Tart> So what should I do then? What's the easiest way to re-install the default drivers?
[22:55]  * SonikkuAmerica <3's XFCE
[22:55] <Pop-Tart> It's been a ferw years since I last used Ubuntu.
[22:55] <Pop-Tart> 10.10 or 11.04 I think
[22:56] <yeik> same
[22:56] <Pop-Tart> What would you do then? Just look over the .sh file and sudo apt-get remove anything it installed?
[22:57] <Pop-Tart> And what's the name of the default driver, in case it removed it?
[22:58] <jhutchins> yeik: While the tools that manage the packages have the same names, packages are one of the biggest differences between debian and debian-derived distros like ubuntu.
[23:01] <yeik> jhutchins, the packages that are installed yes.
[23:03] <yeik> jhutchins, do you have any thoughts on my problem then?
[23:03] <Gallomimia> can anyone please help me figure out why my entire windowing system appears borked after installing some gpu drivers?
[23:03] <Pop-Tart> Here's downgrade.sh if anyone wants it: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mXx82WmZ
[23:03] <Pop-Tart> So just apt-get remove everything listed and apt-get install the last one?
[23:05] <fishscene> Gallomimia: I assume you have already restarted?
[23:05] <Gallomimia> fishscene: yeah, that's when the problems started
[23:06] <Pop-Tart> Really, any tips on getting the default back?
[23:07] <fishscene> Gallomimia: Unfortunately, that's the best I can do. I found I had those same issues concerning certain AMD/ATI binary blobs (non-free). I was unable to find a fix in my short time playing around with it.
[23:07] <Gallomimia> ah. well i've just realized that i uninstalled whatever default drivers there were
[23:08] <Gallomimia> so, that's why things are dreadfully slow now
[23:08] <Gallomimia> something failed when building this driver
[23:08] <cmosguy> hi all
[23:08] <Pop-Tart> Is the easiest thing to get the default drivers back pop in the install CD & start fresh?
[23:08] <Gallomimia> what drivers?
[23:08] <cmosguy> is there a way to speed up the ubuntu windows and resource under VMware unity?
[23:09] <Pop-Tart> I was trying to avoid that
[23:09] <Pop-Tart> because I've got 1 Mbps internet
[23:09] <Pop-Tart> so updating would be slow
[23:09] <Gallomimia> probably best to reinstall them using apt-get
[23:09] <Pop-Tart> and take another two-three hours
[23:09] <Pop-Tart> That's just it
[23:09] <Gallomimia> well, you have the files handy to do it?
[23:09] <Pop-Tart> I don't know the name of the default one or what got changed
[23:09] <Gallomimia> ah
[23:09] <Gallomimia> problems abound
[23:10] <fishscene> cmosguy: You could try playing around with the VM's settings and enabling/disabling 3D accelleration
[23:10] <Pop-Tart> This is the downgrade.sh file that installed the "proper" drivers http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mXx82WmZ
[23:10] <Gallomimia> i think i've missed something. i downloaded the drivers that amd's site gave me, that built and installed okay
[23:10] <Gallomimia> bu
[23:11] <Gallomimia> but i'm missing the catalyst software
[23:12] <Pop-Tart> Really, any suggestions? Start fresh?
[23:12] <Johnny_Linux> reconfigure xorg ?
[23:14] <Gallomimia> no results :(
[23:14] <Gallomimia> reconfigure gives no output
[23:17] <Pop-Tart> oh
[23:17] <Pop-Tart> what about adding xorg-edgers and apt-get upgrading, would that work?
[23:18] <Papa_Doc> hi how to uninstall kde completely from ubuntu 13.10?
[23:19] <Pop-Tart> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:19] <reisio> Papa_Doc: and use what instead?
[23:20] <cgtdk> Pop-Tart: Pretty sure removing "kubuntu-desktop" won't remove all the KDE junk
[23:20] <tgm4883> Pop-Tart, probably need an autoremove in there too
[23:21] <andrewaclt> If I install 13.10 beta will I get all the updates on the 17th?
[23:21] <Papa_Doc> Unity. I want to keep kde but I want to remove it anyways because it changed my login screen and I want the original login back
[23:21] <glycan> I somehow managed to have a mouse in my TTY.
[23:21] <tgm4883> andrewaclt, yes you will
[23:21] <andrewaclt> tgm4883, so it just turns into the full version without anything extra?
[23:22] <cgtdk> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu there's a list of packages here to remove Kubuntu completely, but it hasn't been updated for 13.04
[23:22] <tgm4883> andrewaclt, and support for 13.10 is currently in #ubuntu+1
[23:22] <andrewaclt> s/full version/non-beta
[23:22] <tgm4883> andrewaclt, yes
[23:22] <andrewaclt> tgm4883, ok thanks
[23:22] <sgehrman> Just installed 13.10 and my .Xmodmap is no longer loading.  (I'm a noob, but googled a bunch already)
[23:22] <glycan> I'm not complaining or anything. It's pretty cool, I just have no frigging clue how any amount of messing around with service lightdm could of caused that.
[23:22] <Papa_Doc> cgtdk I'm on 13.10
[23:22] <sgehrman> is there a better way to swap the left cntrl and alt?
[23:23] <tgm4883> Papa_Doc, #ubuntu+1  but you should just remove the login screen kde package I think
[23:23] <ghost_> hey guys fast question im getting trouble with blackbuntu wifi adapters im currently using my hp pavilion g7
[23:24] <tgm4883> !blackbuntu | ghost_
[23:24] <Pop-Tart> I don't see intel or anything in software sources, so if it upgrades the packages from xorg-edgers, wouldn't it replace the intel ones and change them to the X/Xorg/default ones?
[23:24] <Papa_Doc> How do I remove it? I'm still getting the hang of linux thanks for thee patience
[23:24] <ghost_> yes blackbuntu
[23:24] <tgm4883> ghost_, that isn't supported here
[23:25] <ghost_> oh am sorry i did not know anyways whenever im booting any ubuntu o.s its not bootin up properly on the hp
[23:25] <ghost_> any solution
[23:25] <lazors> ghost_: Wrong channel.
[23:25] <Xecuter> Hi! I have some questions about installing Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro. I`ve already installed Elementray OS (an Ubuntu flavour) but I didn`t install rEFIt first, so my boot steps are a little f-ed up. As of now grub boots first, but if I want to boot OS X I need to hold the option key, and then select boot from disk. Can I fix this so that rEFIt is used?
[23:25] <linus> execuse me, how to change swap memory
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> linus, Change in what way?
[23:26] <Johnny_Linux> swapiness
[23:26] <linus> from 5 gig to 1 gig
[23:26] <Pop-Tart> I don't see intel or anything in software sources, so if it upgrades the packages from xorg-edgers, wouldn't it replace the intel ones and change them to the X/Xorg/default ones? <- Wouldn't that work?
[23:26] <Pop-Tart> sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> linus, do it in gparted if you have the space, make a new one.
[23:27] <Pop-Tart> Then open gparted from the dash
[23:27] <linus> what the type of partition system ext or swap
[23:27] <Pop-Tart> swap
[23:27] <linus> ouh thank
[23:27] <reisio> Xecuter: grub should be able to manage whatever refit can
[23:28] <reisio> Xecuter: but yes, you can change whatever
[23:28] <Xecuter> reisio: ah i see, but as of now i`m not able to boot os x from grub, even though it`s listed in the grub menu
[23:28] <reisio> Xecuter: can fix that, too
[23:28] <Xecuter> reisio: I just get a black screen
[23:28] <reisio> Xecuter: something you use Mac OS for, though? :p
[23:29] <Xecuter> reisio: yeah audio stuff :p
[23:29] <reisio> audio stuff you like paying for :p
[23:30] <sbimike> is it possible for me to install 12.04 LTS Server 64-bit and then upgrade to a specific kernel like 3.2.0-31 ?
[23:30] <Xecuter> reisio: can`t live without pro tools or ableton :p
[23:30] <sbimike> i dont want go go beyond that; i have to match a specific driver .ko
[23:31] <krabador> sbimike, you can , if you want, and if you know how, mod your ubuntu installation
[23:31] <sbimike> well whats the most stable way to install a fresh ubuntu on a specific kernel version?
[23:31] <reisio> Xecuter: there are alternatives, you'd have to learn how to use them in an equivalent fashion, but then, since they're open source, you would basically NEVER have to relearn or pay for software for this task again
[23:31] <reisio> ever
[23:31] <reisio> find a bug? You can fix it yourself if you want
[23:32] <reisio> sbimike: kernel is one of the easiest bits to swap
[23:32] <reisio> sbimike: if there's a prebuilt kernel image of the version you want for any Debian-based distro (or even almost any distro at all), you can pretty much just put it where it belongs and say where it is
[23:33] <sbimike> reisio: you're talking about modding the .iso?
[23:33] <reisio> sbimike: just needs to be told to load your important driver modules
[23:33] <Gallomimia> alright. i have this output from fglrxinfo (finally) http://pastebin.com/f1B2F48T what does it mean?
[23:33] <reisio> sbimike: no, I'm talking about copying a file to /boot/, modifying grub.cfg, and calling it a day
[23:33] <reisio> sbimike: building it yourself is more involved, but also fairly simple
[23:33] <sbimike> reisio there are linux-headers-4.3.0-31-virtual
[23:34] <reisio> sbimike: headers are something else
[23:34] <sbimike> i'm on 12.04 lts 64-bit now with 3.2.0-39-virtual
[23:34] <Xecuter> reisio: there is no substitute for pro tools or ableton on a professional level, if pro tools came to linux i would be soooo happy!
[23:34] <krabador> sbimike, g
[23:34] <reisio> Xecuter: sure there is
[23:34] <reisio> unless you define professional as costing you money :p
[23:34] <krabador> sbimike, for a server edition , the best choice is a kernel lts
[23:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Xecuter: How's Pro Tools under Wine?
[23:35] <krabador> sbimike, kernel.org can tell you more
[23:35] <linus> Damn I Love Linux , I don't know what to do , it's make me crazy
[23:35] <sbimike> so i'm hoping to install fresh 12.04 lts and then switch to kernel 3.2.0-31 instead of 3.2.0-39
[23:35] <Xecuter> SonikkuAmerica: haven`t tried, and not going to try. can`t afford to lose performans to a wine layer
[23:36] <reisio> linus: ikr
[23:36] <linus> reisio:  ikr ?
[23:36] <SonikkuAmerica> I know, right?
[23:36] <reisio> SonikkuAmerica: ikr
[23:36] <linus> opss
[23:36] <Xecuter> reisio: i define as professional as earning money on it ;)
[23:37] <linus> A.R
[23:37] <reisio> Xecuter: I can earn money making music with arecord and a mic
[23:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Lol IMHO idc
[23:37] <reisio> or an online Flash/HTML5 sequencer :p
[23:37] <SonikkuAmerica> lol arecord
[23:37] <reisio> could make money selling copies of music created with http://www.incredibox.fr/
[23:38] <reisio> or going outside and sitting on a bucket
[23:38] <Xecuter> reisio: haha, well aparently you don`t so...
[23:38] <reisio> no I use a saxamaphone :p
[23:38] <reisio> what do protools and ableton have that lmms hasn't?
[23:38] <linus> how to make money on internet
[23:38] <reisio> linus: step 1) lie
[23:38] <utusan> is this ubuntu?
[23:39] <reisio> utusan: hi
[23:39] <linus> step 2 ???
[23:39] <reisio> linus: profit
[23:39] <utusan> where are the mods
[23:39] <reisio> utusan: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[23:39] <sbimike> apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-31-virtual && reboot
[23:45] <glycan> Is it possible to have unicode in a terminal?
[23:46]  * wilee-nilee calls giant steps 1, 2, 1234
[23:46] <glycan> Having french accents be displayed as "'a Londres" or "Fran,cais" is all very well and great but I'd rather be able to see them properly.
[23:46] <Xecuter> ok so back to the issue: how do I solve the black screen after selecting os x in grub?
[23:46] <glycan> And write?
[23:46] <somsip> glycan: yes - in a terminal that supports unicode, eg rxvt-unicode
[23:47] <reisio> glycan: and an appropriate font chosen
[23:47] <reisio> dejavu should suffice for european additions alone
[23:47] <glycan> somsip, reisio: I mean in a TTY, like C-A-F1
[23:47] <reisio> Xecuter: you going to solve that and then replace the OS, or?
[23:47] <reisio> glycan: you'd need a special font, like terminus
[23:48] <glycan> How dan I even change the font of a TTY?
[23:48] <reisio> glycan: there's a config file somewhere
[23:48] <reisio> I don't know where on ubuntu, someone else will
[23:48] <Xecuter> reisio: yes I was thinking about installing ubuntu gnome, but i suspect the problem will remain, so if I know how to solve it it won`t be a problem later
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> for the console. theres a config file in /etc/ i tweaked it ages ago glycan
[23:49] <reisio> Xecuter: well if you're going to change OS, I'd wait to see if the problem even persists to address it
[23:49] <Dr_Willis>  /etc/console-setup/ has fonts i recall that cab be used
[23:49] <jmgk> hello Dr_Willis
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> howdies
[23:50] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_Extensible_Authentication_Protocol
[23:50] <reisio> oops, wrong chan
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> reisio, speaking of the saxamaphone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOEF7f2HGoE
[23:51] <reisio> wilee-nilee: delta city blues
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> I play the reeds and fretless bass
[23:52] <Guest44788> hi?
[23:53] <reisio> bye
[23:53] <reisio> wilee-nilee: so you play actual bass :p
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Oh yes I used to play jazz locally I studied theory...etc
[23:54] <reisio> yup, evolution, etc.
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> -reisio- Portland ORE.
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> I went to MT Hood CC
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> excellent jazz an music school at one time
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> -reisio- I haven't for awhile, been pursuing other stuff, I will again though
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> Do that, ;)
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> cool
[23:57] <reisio> so cool
[23:58] <reisio> like if stan getz and charlie parker had twins
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> we hunt down linus he lives in beaverton, lol
[23:58] <BarryBlack> hey hey
[23:58] <reisio> beaverton, I know why you'd live there
[23:58] <reisio> BarryBlack: heyo
[23:58] <BarryBlack> akward question, but does anyone have any experience with nullmailer?
[23:58] <reisio> what if they had
[23:59] <BarryBlack> then i would ask very kindly if they could help me a little
[23:59] <reisio> help you a little with what?