[00:57] o/ [00:57] any advice on wheather or not to upgrade to kernel 3.9.x to fix a card reader issue? [00:58] It's hard to say. The last time I had a card reader issue was in arch. I don't think it was the kernel. [00:59] I have confirmed that the issue with my reader is fixed in the 3.9 kernel. just wondering if it may cause othe unforseen issues. Is it stable? [01:02] Oh.... [01:02] I try not to update the kernel beyond the version included in a release. I'm not that savvy yet. [01:03] But, it can be done. I've seen people do it sucessfully. [01:07] tumblerd crashes all the time [01:07] is it needed? [01:09] Well, it shouldn't crash all the time. [01:09] But, it's not super critical. [01:09] it's annoying is what it is :) [01:09] It's just a thumbnailer for picture and video files. [01:09] besides, it crashes before it generates any thumbnails [01:09] so, why have it? [01:09] Are you by chance accessing videos from a share? [01:09] no [01:10] it's a torrent downloaded video clip [01:10] That's when it use to crash for me. [01:10] Oh! [01:10] Same difference. [01:10] hmm [01:10] I reboot many times since [01:10] the file is still just a file... [01:10] The thumbnailer cycles through the file for thumbnails as it's downloading. [01:10] on the harddrive [01:10] it's been correctly and fully downloaded for long now [01:10] eventually, it gets tired [01:11] sudo apt-get remove tumbler ? [01:11] worst case, sudo apt-get remove tumblerd [01:11] lol, jinx [01:11] :) [01:11] i [01:11] i'm scared now [01:11] "Removing xubuntu-desktop ... [01:11] " [01:11] it said that [01:12] oh, i guess that's an "umbrella" kind of package [01:13] because i no longer have ALL the standard packages in that "group", it removes it [01:13] and leaves me with each package individually? [01:13] Oh, the meta-package [01:13] I'm told those are safe to delete. But, I get kinda scared. [01:14] When I delete meta-packages, sudo apt-get autoremove wants to remove all kinds of things that I still use. [01:14] I'm on the fence about meta packages. [01:14] hmm [02:15] is it possible to use symbolic links (either hard or soft) to point from /var/www/doc (http://localhost/doc) to file://localhost/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html ...??? [02:18] <`Fibz`> nnot sure what your trying to accomplish but yes, a symbolic link is usable. maybe an entry into the hosts file might be needed based on whatever it is your trying to do [02:23] gdos, you want http://localhost/doc to load a file that is not in var/www ? [02:24] yes dhelp is not loading the files in /var/www/doc/HTML as per the description but rather /usr/share/doc/HTML instead. [02:31] i used 'sudo ln -s /usr/share/doc/HTML /var/www/help' and it nearly did it. sorta. but everything did not appear to link correctly. === makimac_ is now known as makimac [03:15] add "FollowSymLinks" as an option for your DocumentRoot [04:18] hah, chrome crashed and gave a report, then apport crashed trying to show me the report, and the lsb_release crashed [04:22] xabster: chrome? or chromium? [04:23] chromium [04:23] xabster: in 13.04? [04:23] yes [04:35] how do i install seamonkey? [04:36] !info seamonkey [04:36] Package seamonkey does not exist in raring [04:36] gdos: i think its been removed.. what are you trying to do? [04:37] holstein: install it. i actually prefer that browser over ff/chromium. [04:37] gdos: it bascially is firefox.. but, you'll need to manually install it, or find an un-offically supported ppa [04:38] gdos: you'll see links to ppa's and other references at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey [04:38] how'd manually install it? copy the installation directory over to /var? [04:39] gdos: i would visit the site where the creators make the application available, and follow whatever directions they offer.. or just add one of the ppa's.. or use a more supported browser [04:42] holstein: ok. i'm trying bratherlui's ppa [04:42] i prefer the email app in seamonkey over thunderbird. [04:43] gdos: as long as you are not expecting it to be an up to date, or well supported, or secure/safe product, do what you like [04:55] how hard is it to convert a tar.bz2 to a .deb file? [05:00] gdos: thats not the way it'll work [05:01] gdos: you might download something in a compressed format, and open it, and build it, and then you could make a package from that [05:01] gdos: i would just use a PPA [05:01] ok. === buu_ is now known as buu-_- === buu-_- is now known as buu [08:49] !java>me [08:49] cfhowlett_, please see my private message [10:13] so uh [10:13] How exactly do you use dc? [10:13] Oh, you have to print [10:13] That's not very friendly =[ [10:36] aas [10:39] Hello, guys [10:39] Is there someway to change which libraries a dynamically linked executable uses? [10:40] I tried to unzip seamonkey, but when I run it, I get a "file not found error" [10:40] what is wrong? [10:40] Megabyte: Paste the shell session in a pastebin [10:41] x@Amber:~/seamonkey$ ./seamonkey [10:41] bash: ./seamonkey: No such file or directory [10:42] buu, It's as simple as that... [10:42] the file *is* there, though [10:44] buu, what is going on? [10:51] Megabyte: what is the first line of ./seamonkey ? [10:51] It's a binary file [10:51] And why are you unzipping things? [10:51] buu, there's no package of seamonkey for xubuntu [10:51] so you must unzip a binary package [10:52] Megabyte: what does 'file ./seamonkey' say? [10:52] x@Amber:~/seamonkey$ file ./seamonkey [10:52] ./seamonkey: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped [10:58] Megabyte: Generally speaking that particular error means that linux can't figure out how to execute that file. Its either a binary it doesn't understand or an "interpreted file" with a shebang it can't find [10:58] can you run strace ./seamonkey [10:59] works here ok - or would if it didn't have a libasound2 error [11:02] http://pastebin.com/4jwQZirJ [11:02] There it is [11:02] (Sorry, I'm using Links 2 for now) [11:03] welp [11:03] Megabyte: what is uname -a [11:03] Linux Amber 3.8.0-31-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:03:44 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [11:04] Does the x64 version work any better? [11:05] I didn't see any. Perhaps it is a little obscure to find? [11:11] buu: No. But 64bit is state of the art nowadays. [11:15] Megabyte: there is a 64bit version http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ - at the bottom, contributed [11:15] ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.21/contrib/seamonkey-2.21.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 [11:16] runs here ok [11:16] Thanks [11:20] elfy, I got the source package here, so I'll try to build from it [11:20] let's see if it works... [11:46] elfy, I intend to build a deb package. Is there any way I can make it available in the repository? [11:51] Megabyte: I don't know anything about ppa's other than people can do it I'm afraid [13:23] hi, does anybody know a robust solution to disable the update notifier in xfce? i set that it should be displayed, also in gconf but it is show every time i did: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update [13:25] gregor3005, software center center > settings > software sources > updates > When there are updates ... [13:28] cfhowlett: i can't disable it there [13:30] cfhowlett: i can remove the ticks on "install updates from" but then i can't update in the background with "sudo apt-get upgradE" [13:30] is USC there is last option which you should choose: Never. It should help :) [13:30] olbi: but this is only for new releases not for software updates [13:31] sorry, 1 option and change to never [13:31] this should never check the updates [13:31] so there will no be any notifications [13:31] olbi: should but it doesn't do it in that way [13:31] unless you check this manually [13:31] olbi: ah, ok maybe now i understand it [13:32] olbi: but i think every time when "apt-get update" is running the notification is displayed, so also when new software will be installed it notifies you about new updates [13:33] yes :), you have ridht [13:33] but when you install it it will be gone [13:33] I have choose checking the updates one per week and it works [13:34] olbi: ok, its the pc for my mother who has a prepaid internet access and there she has not much download volume. and i wan't to avoid that she installed updates [13:34] olbi: so from time to time i come to here with my internet stick and install the updates [14:03] Hi everyone [14:03] I installed Xubuntu on BTRFS filesystem. And I have this error at startup: "sparse file not found, press any key to continue" [14:33] on an another account (using desktop profile) one is unable to access desktop (wallpaper) settings. locks up everytime. === makimac_ is now known as makimac [17:24] Could you pls instruct me how to enable system sounds? I've checked the box enable system sounds but to no avail. [17:26] I would really appreciate your expertease in solving this mystery :) [17:33] There are sound folders, and "enable event sounts" checkbox checked... so what's happening in between is outside of my current knowledge... === Alien_ is now known as Guest1736 [19:21] this is totally OT so i apologize but i thought you folks might have a better idea.... i need to put a free office suite onto a lady's PC. does anyone know whether OOo or libreoffice works better on windows? thanks [19:22] aicasn: try asking in ##windows [19:22] i shall try... [19:22] aicasn: Better is depending on how you ask. I have run both with no issues, though I prefer libreoffice [19:23] -how +who [19:24] most compatible vs. MS office. this lady is older and not techie. if the program she uses to open her .docx files garbles them then the program isn't useful [19:25] aicasn: that may happen - blame it on M$. [19:25] hmm then I'm not sure. I get some docx which opens in libreoffice, but layout and fonts might be different and not look so good sometimes [19:27] Isn't libreoffice the newer/more maintained one [19:27] MS is completely freekin retarded. They won't sell me a copy of Office 2010 for her. The want her to upgrade (pay $$) for Windows 8 (on her dual-core 1.2GHz, 512MB RAM dinosaur), then get her to buy a copy of Office Live [19:28] i was on the phone for like 3 hours this morning looking for a little help. Nada [19:32] aicasn: Office 2010 isnt sold anymore by MS, and you may get it officially from various stores. And it is offtopic in here :) [19:32] ...very, very OT... [19:52] hi [20:07] Hiya! I just installed Xubuntu. I know this is a dumb question and I should Google more, but how do I change the color of the titlebar? Does a theme do that, or is it an option under Appearance? [20:08] Pop-Tart: Have you tried settings -> appearance? [20:09] Yes, I've checked there. [20:10] Pop-Tart, the xfwm themes mainly control the window borders. see under settings manager -> window manager -> tab style [20:10] Isn't the top bar actually a panel? [20:11] Pop-Tart, some xfwm themes allow the gtk themes (in settings manager -> appearance -> tab style) to manage the colors though [20:11] oh [20:11] Titlebar of windows? [20:11] Yes [20:11] Heh, I thought you meant the top panel =] [20:12] I just want to change the color from white/grey to something darker/black, like the top panel. It hurts my eyes. [20:24] I still haven't managed to figure it out yet, but basically I just want this: http://i.imm.io/1iph8.png to look like this: http://i.imm.io/1iphp.png [20:26] <`Fibz`> window manager -> themes , + panel options -> appearance [20:26] <`Fibz`> all are in launcher -> settings -> settings manager [20:28] <`Fibz`> might need to right click task bar -> properties -> show flat buttons [20:35] hi [20:35] <`Fibz`> hi [20:37] hi, i have a problem with the networkconnection on an workstation, when i do "dhclient eth0" it works perfect. but when i configure the network with the network applet i didn't get any connection. also is it not possible to see my networkconfiguration in the applet to click on it [20:38] in grayed text i see that the device is not managed. what should that mean? [20:38] <`Fibz`> xubuntu version? [20:39] `Fibz`: 13.04. clean installed and updated [20:43] <`Fibz`> you can disable network manager from autostart and use /etc/network/interfaces instead [20:45] `Fibz`: thx i try it [20:47] `Fibz`: now i have dhcp automatically on that device but the applet configuration are not shown [20:48] <`Fibz`> if you have a chance, try confirming it on a virtual machine or something and submit a bug report [20:50] <`Fibz`> i've got a box running 13.04 32bit with internet access through eth0 with no issues over here [20:52] `Fibz`: i found a solution and the cause: in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf in the ifupdown section managed was set to false :-) [20:52] <`Fibz`> ah [20:53] `Fibz`: the next problem will be to fix the problem with the gsm usb stick [21:48] I've got something very broken about my 13.04 install and my nvidia twinview. Is 13.04 supposed to still be using xfce 4.10? [21:51] <`Fibz`> yes [21:51] <`Fibz`> i wouldnt expect a new xfce untill 12 [21:52] <`Fibz`> but i dont know [21:55] When I boot Xubuntu I get an error message that I'm trying to diagnose to speed up booting time. Does anyone know what 'usb 1-1.1: string descriptor 0 read error: -22' means? [21:58] how do i make xubuntu turn off monitor after not using for a while [21:59] `Fibz`: thanks much. the configuration is working in lightdm, but I log in, wait for a minute, and it kicks me back to the login screen. any hints you'd suggest? [22:03] linuxuz3r: Settings Manager -> Power Management or Screensaver whichever you prefer [22:05] <`Fibz`> theixle, http://www.cm19a.com/2013/02/how-to-disable-linux-kernel-drivers.html [22:05] theixle, i cant find the screensaver [22:06] <`Fibz`> linuxuz3r, launcher -> settings -> settings manager -> Power Manager -> On AC -> Monitor [22:08] `Fibz`, thanks [22:09] Thanks Fibz [22:13] <`Fibz`> dvanduzer, maybe something in here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/129610/login-screen-wont-accept-my-password [22:15] `Fibz`: thanks, I'll try nuking my .Xauthority. [22:55] anybody here good with dpkg that could possibly help me look at an issue http://pastebin.com/X7KW8v7w