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lordievaderahoneybun: Ping.06:02
soeegood morning06:21
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Mamrokguys, I can't build Amarok on 13.10 anymore:06:50
Mamrok-- Performing Test TAGLIB_ASF_FOUND - Failed06:50
MamrokCMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:30 (message):06:50
Mamrok  TagLib does not have ASF support compiled in.06:50
Mamrokhow about compiling taglib again? that package will not work06:51
Mamrokand why are there 3 different clang versions in 13.10?06:54
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yofelMamarok: it is built with ASF support, please use gcc or clang 3.3, clang 3.2 is just broken07:42
Mamarokah, that's the ├╝problem, then07:55
Mamarokalthough clang meta package points to 3.2, that should be changed07:55
debfxit's a bit too late for that08:13
Mamarokwell, at least make sure to obsolete 3.2 so they get updated to 3.308:20
Mamaroksince it is in the repos anyway...08:20
apacheloggershadeslayer, ScottK: are we good for release now?09:56
ScottKapachelogger: if someone could quickly update libkolab to use boost 1.53 and fix its symbols file it would be good.10:09
apacheloggerwhoop10:10
apacheloggeryofel: how does one make symbols check fail a package?10:10
apacheloggerScottK: it was built against 1.53 was it not?10:11
ScottKno10:13
ScottKIts got 1.49.10:14
ScottKapachelogger: ^^^10:15
apacheloggerScottK: -- Boost version: 1.53.010:16
apacheloggerhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/153814461/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.libkolab_0.4.1-0ubuntu2_UPLOADING.txt.gz10:16
apacheloggeron all architectures it seems10:16
ScottKYeah. wgrant fixed it an hour ago.10:20
apacheloggerah10:20
apacheloggerlet's leave the symbols stuff then :P10:20
apacheloggerthough it should be made fatal for .0410:21
apacheloggerotherwise it's somewhat pointless IMO10:21
ScottKI think we're good. 10:21
apacheloggerok, putting down a card about the symbols10:22
* apachelogger wanted to write down some SRU half an hour ago and forgot what it was10:22
apacheloggerI hate interruption chains :@10:23
wgrantapachelogger, ScottK: If you're talking about libkolab's symbols file, it *was* fatal, I just quickly made the two private symbols that disappeared optional. Turns out they actually disappear when rebuilt with 1.49 as well, so something other than the boost version has changed.10:25
wgrantBut the rdeps don't use the two missing ones, so seems fine.10:26
yofelapachelogger: by passing the correct -c level through dh_makeshlibs to dpkg-gensymbols10:29
apacheloggerwgrant: ah, ok10:31
apacheloggerah10:33
apacheloggerright10:33
apacheloggermuon SRU10:33
apacheloggerScottK: unless you want that in the release? ... essentially MSC crashes after like 2 seconds, everytime10:36
apacheloggerpatched-l10n is working10:43
apacheloggerhow awesome is that10:43
ScottKmsc?10:43
apacheloggerScottK: muon software center10:43
apacheloggerthe old muon thing10:43
ScottKk.10:43
apacheloggerwhich happens to be on the ISO because it is in the base muon package for some reason10:43
apacheloggerso if someone browses kickoff and starts the software center it will immediately explode10:44
ScottKSounds like we should fix it. Talk to infinity in u-release. 10:44
BluesKaj'Morning folks10:45
ScottKRespin is planned. ask him to hold outs gor muon.10:46
kubuntu83Greetings, everyone... Am I understanding correctly that, in Saucy, the appmenu-gtk* packages were superceded by packages which now *only* work for Unity?10:56
ScottKYes.11:07
Blizzzgonna upgrade my prod system to 13.1011:10
soee;]11:10
kubuntu83Hmm... And of course installing the old packages manually has no effect. >_< ... Anyone know of a workaround?11:13
Blizzzoha: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.  11:15
apacheloggerso much stress :@11:44
soeeapachelogger, why so ?11:48
apacheloggersaucy fixes and real life problems at the same time ...11:49
soeeuhm, rl problems make saucy less fun, resolve rl problems first than saucy fixes are pleasure :)12:02
apacheloggersoee: saucy fixes at this point are no pleasure at all :P12:12
apacheloggerway too close to release12:12
soeewell saucy is so stable for me :) so this issues arent any critical, are they ?12:20
BluesKaj had only one desktop freeze and it was FF , altho it froze the whole desktop , but REISUB and alt+prtscn rescued me from a hard reboot12:23
BluesKajnothing like it since tho12:24
lordievaderUpdated this laptop yesterday to Saucy, haven't seen anything strange yet.12:26
BluesKajapachelogger. no major issues . I know there are still some minor annoyances, but nothing real serious I hope.12:32
kubuntu83I've been testing out Saucy a good bit too, no issues here either... Except the appmenu thing, which sadly is probably a deal-breaker for me. >_<12:32
apacheloggerBluesKaj: there are? Oo12:33
apacheloggerkubuntu83: blame ubuntu-desktop :S12:33
BluesKajapachelogger. no, I'm asking :)12:34
kubuntu83apachelogger: Don't worry, I'm griping about it in #ubuntu-devel too. :P12:34
BluesKajkubuntu83. you need to become more of a kubuntu purist to avoid those unity/gnome probs :)12:35
apacheloggerkubuntu83: very good :D12:36
kubuntu83BluesKaj: I like the idea, but I like using the program that works best better. ;) 99.9% of the time, mixing toolkits is a complete non-issue for me.12:37
BluesKajkubuntu83. I was suggesting a solution to your problem with humour :)12:38
kubuntu83Yeah, sorry. I got it. :)12:39
kubuntu83Just too pissed at Canonical to laugh. :P12:39
kubuntu83"there is no appmenu-ng port to qt4/plasma. It does work in qt5/declarative for example." That does a lot of good.12:41
apachelogger.10 board cleaned up, 2 cards I dunno what to do with14:04
apacheloggercurrently 37 cards to be done for .04 \o/14:07
apacheloggerbug 119017414:29
ubottubug 1190174 in calligra (Ubuntu) "package krita-data 1:2.6.3-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/hicolor/512x512/apps/calligrakrita.png', which is also in package krita 1:2.6.3-0ubuntu2" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119017414:29
apacheloggerzomg14:29
apacheloggerdoesn't compute though14:29
smartboyhwEw14:30
apacheloggerdon't we have krita on the ISO?14:30
apacheloggerhow is the ISO building if there's a conflict? Oo14:30
smartboyhwHeh, that's 2.6.3.....14:30
smartboyhwapachelogger, it's now 2.7.2 I think...14:30
apacheloggerah14:30
smartboyhw!find krita saucy14:30
apacheloggerit's from june14:30
ubottuFound: krita, krita-data14:30
smartboyhwkrita = 2.7.2-0ubuntu2 on saucy14:31
apacheloggermarking fixed14:31
smartboyhwLOL I marked the 14.04 board *LTS*14:32
apacheloggerthat's not decided yet :P14:34
apacheloggeralso it breaks sorting14:35
apacheloggerunless every board picks that up which is ewww14:35
smartboyhwapachelogger, not decided? -.- 14:35
* apachelogger throws keyboard and demands changeroo14:35
smartboyhwapachelogger, it doesn't break sorts14:35
apacheloggersmartboyhw: TB declares what gets LTS and what not14:35
apacheloggersmartboyhw: sure it does14:35
apachelogger13.04 < 13.04 Docs14:35
apachelogger13.04 LTS > 13.04 Docs14:36
apachelogger13.04 LTS < 13.04 LTS Docs14:36
apacheloggerI'd remove it14:36
smartboyhwapachelogger, is 14.04 *LTS* < 14.04 Docs?14:36
smartboyhw(With the asterisks)14:36
smartboyhwAnd I thought it's been LTS all year long-.-14:36
smartboyhw(I mean, 14.04)14:36
apacheloggeras I said, only the tech board gets to pick what gets the LTS label14:37
smartboyhwReverted14:37
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1070472] Esperanto did not appear in language menu @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1070472 (by siauderman)14:38
apacheloggerwah14:38
apacheloggeroh boy14:38
apacheloggerevery time a bug notification pops up somehwere, I almost fall off my chair14:38
BluesKajhow many ppl will miss that ? :)14:38
smartboyhwWhat's Esperanto?14:38
apacheloggerthis has to stop14:38
apacheloggersmartboyhw: artifical language14:39
BluesKajit's a invented language14:39
BluesKajan14:39
BluesKaj1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto14:41
BluesKajoops http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto14:41
davmor2apachelogger: well that's easy to remedy create bugless software :D14:45
apacheloggermy software doesn't have bugs, everyone else's does...14:55
Blizzzyeah, apache conf is kaputt after upgrade to 13.1014:57
shadeslayeranyone testing upgrade paths?15:00
yofelshadeslayer: I tested amd64 a few times, no major issues15:15
shadeslayerminor issues?15:15
yofelI think I saw some configuration issue but I don't really remember what it was. Would have to check my VM once I get home15:18
apacheloggerif only we had a system to track issues15:19
apachelogger-> dinner15:19
contrastAre there any plans to restore compatibility between the new appmenu and the appmenu-facing components of KDE?15:21
Blizzzif someone is interested: how to get a broken Apache working again in 13.10 after upgrade from 13.04. https://joindiaspora.com/posts/317617115:23
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1240122] After log in the geometry of the widgets and windows are shown rotated. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1240122 (by Konstantinos Koukos)15:31
lordievaderahoneybun: ping17:44
geniiYay!18:21
soeefinal already ?18:31
Riddellcandidate images18:40
Riddell!testers | candidate images18:40
ubottucandidate images: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56 for information.18:40
lordievaderRiddell: Have you taken a look at the updated kubuntu-docs package?18:40
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lordievaderRiddell: Smartboy said I based it on the wrong package, not sure if I got it right this time round.18:41
BluesKajRiddell:  what's up ?18:43
RiddellBluesKaj: I've had my eye stiched up18:46
Riddelllordievader: sorry not able to look at much this week, had my eye stiched up18:46
lordievaderRiddell: Right, sorry. How are you doing under it?18:47
BluesKajRiddell:  an injury , or facelifr :) ?18:47
BluesKajerr facelift18:48
BluesKajbrb , gotta switch back to 13.1018:48
BluesKajtried quassel , at first it was fine then it crashed and now it refuses to do anything , can't connect 18:54
BluesKajguess that's why genii decided to compile his version instead of a regular install 18:56
geniiBluesKaj: Actually the main reason I do that is to make the quassel command aliases substitute something other than an asterisk when null input. Because otherwise what happens is when the person you want to kick or ban leaves just before you hit "Enter", it tries to apply it to everyone in the channel19:04
genii( I actually booted everyone out of #ubuntu like this before )19:04
lordievaderThat is not very nice ;)19:05
BluesKajhehe ..oops :)19:05
geniiBluesKaj: If you want I can put the quassel binary I just made today up somewhere for you. Then just put it in /usr/local/bin and make a menu item for it19:06
ahoneybunhey lordievader19:13
BluesKajgenii. I'm compiling as we speak , thanks for the offer though :)19:14
lordievaderahoneybun: You asked yesterday what was in the package right?19:14
lordievaderahoneybun: Everything you see here (->) is in the package: http://griffioen.no-ip.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs.html19:15
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RiddellBluesKaj: fixing a long term injury19:17
Riddelllordievader: tired!  surgery takes it out of you19:17
lordievaderRiddell: Get wel soon!19:18
BluesKajRiddell. take care and heal ! :)19:20
ahoneybunlordievader: yes thank you19:23
ahoneybunso we have the main stuff on docs.kubuntu.org and the package content on that site?19:23
lordievaderahoneybun: Supposedly the stuff on docs.kubuntu.org is in the package.19:25
ahoneybunso the installation page as well?19:25
lordievaderahoneybun: No: http://docs.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs.html19:26
Riddellpackage was last updated 2013-10-0119:29
Riddellso it'll need to be updated to remove the install page19:29
ahoneybunRiddell: but that page copies from the wiki so is the page missing/19:30
ahoneybun?19:30
lordievaderahoneybun: What page?19:31
lordievaderahoneybun: The installation pages?19:31
ahoneybuninstallation19:31
lordievaderahoneybun: I commented the link on the main page so it would't show up.19:32
ahoneybunoh ok cool 19:32
ahoneybunlordievader: so it is not in the package then>19:32
lordievaderahoneybun: No. Not in the updated one (it isn't in launchpad yet).19:33
ahoneybunok so is it in the release?19:34
lordievaderahoneybun: See https://trello.com/c/WsCP3lWj/51-installation-page-set-for-next-lts19:34
lordievaderahoneybun: Hope not.19:34
ahoneybunI think it was built yesterday19:35
ahoneybundidn't see that thanks 19:35
lordievaderahoneybun: What was build yesterday?19:36
ahoneybunthe image19:37
ahoneybun[queuebot] Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Saucy Final] has been updated (20131014.1)19:38
ahoneybun[queuebot] Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Saucy Final] has been updated (20131014.1)19:38
lordievader20:20 -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Saucy Final] has been updated (20131015)19:38
ahoneybunI see so can they make another one ?19:38
lordievaderahoneybun: About an hour ago it was updated ;)19:38
lordievaderahoneybun: Why? As I said the updated kubuntu-docs package ain't yet on lp.19:39
ahoneybunwhen it does get updated20:01
lordievaderahoneybun: When one of the dev's uploads it ;)20:08
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ahoneybunawesome :)20:09
ahoneybunbbl20:09
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soeei was disconnected20:51
soeesoee> where can i grap 64 bit version to test ?20:51
Quintasansoee: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds20:57
soeeQuintasan, thank you.21:16
ScottKISO testing people.22:11
* ScottK pokes at shadeslayer.22:11
Quintasandownloading22:30
soeeScottK, added first testcase22:32
soeeis there some way to generate hardware profile ?22:37
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soeeScottK, 4 test finished for 64 bit23:02
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soeewhat is OEM setup ?23:11
Riddellsoee: press F4 at the initial live image boot screen to run it23:29
ahoneybunhello Riddell23:34

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