[06:02] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Ping.
[06:21] <soee> good morning
[06:50] <Mamrok> guys, I can't build Amarok on 13.10 anymore:
[06:50] <Mamrok> -- Performing Test TAGLIB_ASF_FOUND - Failed
[06:50] <Mamrok> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:30 (message):
[06:50] <Mamrok>   TagLib does not have ASF support compiled in.
[06:51] <Mamrok> how about compiling taglib again? that package will not work
[06:54] <Mamrok> and why are there 3 different clang versions in 13.10?
[07:42] <yofel> Mamarok: it is built with ASF support, please use gcc or clang 3.3, clang 3.2 is just broken
[07:55] <Mamarok> ah, that's the üproblem, then
[07:55] <Mamarok> although clang meta package points to 3.2, that should be changed
[08:13] <debfx> it's a bit too late for that
[08:20] <Mamarok> well, at least make sure to obsolete 3.2 so they get updated to 3.3
[08:20] <Mamarok> since it is in the repos anyway...
[09:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, ScottK: are we good for release now?
[10:09] <ScottK> apachelogger: if someone could quickly update libkolab to use boost 1.53 and fix its symbols file it would be good.
[10:10] <apachelogger> whoop
[10:10] <apachelogger> yofel: how does one make symbols check fail a package?
[10:11] <apachelogger> ScottK: it was built against 1.53 was it not?
[10:13] <ScottK> no
[10:14] <ScottK> Its got 1.49.
[10:15] <ScottK> apachelogger: ^^^
[10:16] <apachelogger> ScottK: -- Boost version: 1.53.0
[10:16] <apachelogger> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/153814461/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.libkolab_0.4.1-0ubuntu2_UPLOADING.txt.gz
[10:16] <apachelogger> on all architectures it seems
[10:20] <ScottK> Yeah. wgrant fixed it an hour ago.
[10:20] <apachelogger> ah
[10:20] <apachelogger> let's leave the symbols stuff then :P
[10:21] <apachelogger> though it should be made fatal for .04
[10:21] <apachelogger> otherwise it's somewhat pointless IMO
[10:21] <ScottK> I think we're good. 
[10:22] <apachelogger> ok, putting down a card about the symbols
[10:22]  * apachelogger wanted to write down some SRU half an hour ago and forgot what it was
[10:23] <apachelogger> I hate interruption chains :@
[10:25] <wgrant> apachelogger, ScottK: If you're talking about libkolab's symbols file, it *was* fatal, I just quickly made the two private symbols that disappeared optional. Turns out they actually disappear when rebuilt with 1.49 as well, so something other than the boost version has changed.
[10:26] <wgrant> But the rdeps don't use the two missing ones, so seems fine.
[10:29] <yofel> apachelogger: by passing the correct -c level through dh_makeshlibs to dpkg-gensymbols
[10:31] <apachelogger> wgrant: ah, ok
[10:33] <apachelogger> ah
[10:33] <apachelogger> right
[10:33] <apachelogger> muon SRU
[10:36] <apachelogger> ScottK: unless you want that in the release? ... essentially MSC crashes after like 2 seconds, everytime
[10:43] <apachelogger> patched-l10n is working
[10:43] <apachelogger> how awesome is that
[10:43] <ScottK> msc?
[10:43] <apachelogger> ScottK: muon software center
[10:43] <apachelogger> the old muon thing
[10:43] <ScottK> k.
[10:43] <apachelogger> which happens to be on the ISO because it is in the base muon package for some reason
[10:44] <apachelogger> so if someone browses kickoff and starts the software center it will immediately explode
[10:44] <ScottK> Sounds like we should fix it. Talk to infinity in u-release. 
[10:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:46] <ScottK> Respin is planned. ask him to hold outs gor muon.
[10:56] <kubuntu83> Greetings, everyone... Am I understanding correctly that, in Saucy, the appmenu-gtk* packages were superceded by packages which now *only* work for Unity?
[11:07] <ScottK> Yes.
[11:10] <Blizzz> gonna upgrade my prod system to 13.10
[11:10] <soee> ;]
[11:13] <kubuntu83> Hmm... And of course installing the old packages manually has no effect. >_< ... Anyone know of a workaround?
[11:15] <Blizzz> oha: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.  
[11:44] <apachelogger> so much stress :@
[11:48] <soee> apachelogger, why so ?
[11:49] <apachelogger> saucy fixes and real life problems at the same time ...
[12:02] <soee> uhm, rl problems make saucy less fun, resolve rl problems first than saucy fixes are pleasure :)
[12:12] <apachelogger> soee: saucy fixes at this point are no pleasure at all :P
[12:12] <apachelogger> way too close to release
[12:20] <soee> well saucy is so stable for me :) so this issues arent any critical, are they ?
[12:23] <BluesKaj>  had only one desktop freeze and it was FF , altho it froze the whole desktop , but REISUB and alt+prtscn rescued me from a hard reboot
[12:24] <BluesKaj> nothing like it since tho
[12:26] <lordievader> Updated this laptop yesterday to Saucy, haven't seen anything strange yet.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> apachelogger. no major issues . I know there are still some minor annoyances, but nothing real serious I hope.
[12:32] <kubuntu83> I've been testing out Saucy a good bit too, no issues here either... Except the appmenu thing, which sadly is probably a deal-breaker for me. >_<
[12:33] <apachelogger> BluesKaj: there are? Oo
[12:33] <apachelogger> kubuntu83: blame ubuntu-desktop :S
[12:34] <BluesKaj> apachelogger. no, I'm asking :)
[12:34] <kubuntu83> apachelogger: Don't worry, I'm griping about it in #ubuntu-devel too. :P
[12:35] <BluesKaj> kubuntu83. you need to become more of a kubuntu purist to avoid those unity/gnome probs :)
[12:36] <apachelogger> kubuntu83: very good :D
[12:37] <kubuntu83> BluesKaj: I like the idea, but I like using the program that works best better. ;) 99.9% of the time, mixing toolkits is a complete non-issue for me.
[12:38] <BluesKaj> kubuntu83. I was suggesting a solution to your problem with humour :)
[12:39] <kubuntu83> Yeah, sorry. I got it. :)
[12:39] <kubuntu83> Just too pissed at Canonical to laugh. :P
[12:41] <kubuntu83> "there is no appmenu-ng port to qt4/plasma. It does work in qt5/declarative for example." That does a lot of good.
[14:04] <apachelogger> .10 board cleaned up, 2 cards I dunno what to do with
[14:07] <apachelogger> currently 37 cards to be done for .04 \o/
[14:29] <apachelogger> bug 1190174
[14:29] <apachelogger> zomg
[14:29] <apachelogger> doesn't compute though
[14:30] <smartboyhw> Ew
[14:30] <apachelogger> don't we have krita on the ISO?
[14:30] <apachelogger> how is the ISO building if there's a conflict? Oo
[14:30] <smartboyhw> Heh, that's 2.6.3.....
[14:30] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, it's now 2.7.2 I think...
[14:30] <apachelogger> ah
[14:30] <smartboyhw> !find krita saucy
[14:30] <apachelogger> it's from june
[14:31] <smartboyhw> krita = 2.7.2-0ubuntu2 on saucy
[14:31] <apachelogger> marking fixed
[14:32] <smartboyhw> LOL I marked the 14.04 board *LTS*
[14:34] <apachelogger> that's not decided yet :P
[14:35] <apachelogger> also it breaks sorting
[14:35] <apachelogger> unless every board picks that up which is ewww
[14:35] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, not decided? -.- 
[14:35]  * apachelogger throws keyboard and demands changeroo
[14:35] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, it doesn't break sorts
[14:35] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: TB declares what gets LTS and what not
[14:35] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: sure it does
[14:35] <apachelogger> 13.04 < 13.04 Docs
[14:36] <apachelogger> 13.04 LTS > 13.04 Docs
[14:36] <apachelogger> 13.04 LTS < 13.04 LTS Docs
[14:36] <apachelogger> I'd remove it
[14:36] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, is 14.04 *LTS* < 14.04 Docs?
[14:36] <smartboyhw> (With the asterisks)
[14:36] <smartboyhw> And I thought it's been LTS all year long-.-
[14:36] <smartboyhw> (I mean, 14.04)
[14:37] <apachelogger> as I said, only the tech board gets to pick what gets the LTS label
[14:37] <smartboyhw> Reverted
[14:38] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1070472] Esperanto did not appear in language menu @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1070472 (by siauderman)
[14:38] <apachelogger> wah
[14:38] <apachelogger> oh boy
[14:38] <apachelogger> every time a bug notification pops up somehwere, I almost fall off my chair
[14:38] <BluesKaj> how many ppl will miss that ? :)
[14:38] <smartboyhw> What's Esperanto?
[14:38] <apachelogger> this has to stop
[14:39] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: artifical language
[14:39] <BluesKaj> it's a invented language
[14:39] <BluesKaj> an
[14:41] <BluesKaj> 1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto
[14:41] <BluesKaj> oops http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto
[14:45] <davmor2> apachelogger: well that's easy to remedy create bugless software :D
[14:55] <apachelogger> my software doesn't have bugs, everyone else's does...
[14:57] <Blizzz> yeah, apache conf is kaputt after upgrade to 13.10
[15:00] <shadeslayer> anyone testing upgrade paths?
[15:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: I tested amd64 a few times, no major issues
[15:15] <shadeslayer> minor issues?
[15:18] <yofel> I think I saw some configuration issue but I don't really remember what it was. Would have to check my VM once I get home
[15:19] <apachelogger> if only we had a system to track issues
[15:19] <apachelogger> -> dinner
[15:21] <contrast> Are there any plans to restore compatibility between the new appmenu and the appmenu-facing components of KDE?
[15:23] <Blizzz> if someone is interested: how to get a broken Apache working again in 13.10 after upgrade from 13.04. https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3176171
[15:31] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1240122] After log in the geometry of the widgets and windows are shown rotated. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1240122 (by Konstantinos Koukos)
[17:44] <lordievader> ahoneybun: ping
[18:21] <genii> Yay!
[18:31] <soee> final already ?
[18:40] <Riddell> candidate images
[18:40] <Riddell> !testers | candidate images
[18:40] <lordievader> Riddell: Have you taken a look at the updated kubuntu-docs package?
[18:41] <lordievader> Riddell: Smartboy said I based it on the wrong package, not sure if I got it right this time round.
[18:43] <BluesKaj> Riddell:  what's up ?
[18:46] <Riddell> BluesKaj: I've had my eye stiched up
[18:46] <Riddell> lordievader: sorry not able to look at much this week, had my eye stiched up
[18:47] <lordievader> Riddell: Right, sorry. How are you doing under it?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> Riddell:  an injury , or facelifr :) ?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> err facelift
[18:48] <BluesKaj> brb , gotta switch back to 13.10
[18:54] <BluesKaj> tried quassel , at first it was fine then it crashed and now it refuses to do anything , can't connect 
[18:56] <BluesKaj> guess that's why genii decided to compile his version instead of a regular install 
[19:04] <genii> BluesKaj: Actually the main reason I do that is to make the quassel command aliases substitute something other than an asterisk when null input. Because otherwise what happens is when the person you want to kick or ban leaves just before you hit "Enter", it tries to apply it to everyone in the channel
[19:04] <genii> ( I actually booted everyone out of #ubuntu like this before )
[19:05] <lordievader> That is not very nice ;)
[19:05] <BluesKaj> hehe ..oops :)
[19:06] <genii> BluesKaj: If you want I can put the quassel binary I just made today up somewhere for you. Then just put it in /usr/local/bin and make a menu item for it
[19:13] <ahoneybun> hey lordievader
[19:14] <BluesKaj> genii. I'm compiling as we speak , thanks for the offer though :)
[19:14] <lordievader> ahoneybun: You asked yesterday what was in the package right?
[19:15] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Everything you see here (->) is in the package: http://griffioen.no-ip.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs.html
[19:17] <Riddell> BluesKaj: fixing a long term injury
[19:17] <Riddell> lordievader: tired!  surgery takes it out of you
[19:18] <lordievader> Riddell: Get wel soon!
[19:20] <BluesKaj> Riddell. take care and heal ! :)
[19:23] <ahoneybun> lordievader: yes thank you
[19:23] <ahoneybun> so we have the main stuff on docs.kubuntu.org and the package content on that site?
[19:25] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Supposedly the stuff on docs.kubuntu.org is in the package.
[19:25] <ahoneybun> so the installation page as well?
[19:26] <lordievader> ahoneybun: No: http://docs.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs.html
[19:29] <Riddell> package was last updated 2013-10-01
[19:29] <Riddell> so it'll need to be updated to remove the install page
[19:30] <ahoneybun> Riddell: but that page copies from the wiki so is the page missing/
[19:30] <ahoneybun> ?
[19:31] <lordievader> ahoneybun: What page?
[19:31] <lordievader> ahoneybun: The installation pages?
[19:31] <ahoneybun> installation
[19:32] <lordievader> ahoneybun: I commented the link on the main page so it would't show up.
[19:32] <ahoneybun> oh ok cool 
[19:32] <ahoneybun> lordievader: so it is not in the package then>
[19:33] <lordievader> ahoneybun: No. Not in the updated one (it isn't in launchpad yet).
[19:34] <ahoneybun> ok so is it in the release?
[19:34] <lordievader> ahoneybun: See https://trello.com/c/WsCP3lWj/51-installation-page-set-for-next-lts
[19:34] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Hope not.
[19:35] <ahoneybun> I think it was built yesterday
[19:35] <ahoneybun> didn't see that thanks 
[19:36] <lordievader> ahoneybun: What was build yesterday?
[19:37] <ahoneybun> the image
[19:38] <ahoneybun> [queuebot] Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Saucy Final] has been updated (20131014.1)
[19:38] <ahoneybun> [queuebot] Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Saucy Final] has been updated (20131014.1)
[19:38] <lordievader> 20:20 -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Saucy Final] has been updated (20131015)
[19:38] <ahoneybun> I see so can they make another one ?
[19:38] <lordievader> ahoneybun: About an hour ago it was updated ;)
[19:39] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Why? As I said the updated kubuntu-docs package ain't yet on lp.
[20:01] <ahoneybun> when it does get updated
[20:08] <lordievader> ahoneybun: When one of the dev's uploads it ;)
[20:09] <ahoneybun> awesome :)
[20:09] <ahoneybun> bbl
[20:51] <soee> i was disconnected
[20:51] <soee> soee> where can i grap 64 bit version to test ?
[20:57] <Quintasan> soee: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds
[21:16] <soee> Quintasan, thank you.
[22:11] <ScottK> ISO testing people.
[22:11]  * ScottK pokes at shadeslayer.
[22:30] <Quintasan> downloading
[22:32] <soee> ScottK, added first testcase
[22:37] <soee> is there some way to generate hardware profile ?
[23:02] <soee> ScottK, 4 test finished for 64 bit
[23:11] <soee> what is OEM setup ?
[23:29] <Riddell> soee: press F4 at the initial live image boot screen to run it
[23:34] <ahoneybun> hello Riddell