[04:36] <matt_tha_masta> Join /ubuntu-au
[04:36] <matt_tha_masta> join /#ubuntu-au
[04:52] <Myrtti> matt_tha_masta: did you crack it yet?
[04:52] <matt_tha_masta> lol, yes
[05:09] <Myrtti> it looked somewhat morning-ish :-P
[05:09] <Myrtti> (I've got a meeting at half past (8.30 Finnish time) as I always do on Tuesdays, last week I even wrote the memo. Today I find action points I must've assigned to myself that I don't remember seeing ever in my life)
[05:10] <Myrtti> desperate times, these Tuesday mornings
[05:17] <diddledan> ouch
[06:32] <KK_> hi
[07:01] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:06] <diddledan> gute morgen
[07:06] <diddledan> have to go to the office today
[07:07] <diddledan> I mucho prefero working at home-o
[07:08] <MooDoo> diddledan: yeah don't we all :)
[07:08] <diddledan> :-)
[07:08] <Myrtti> I'd actually prefer to work in an office
[07:09] <Myrtti> too bad the office is in a really inconvenient place from all my life's angles
[07:09] <MooDoo> yeah it's difficult at home, especially when I don't have an office just a kitchen table lol
[07:22]  * neuro hugs his office
[07:36] <DJones> Ugh, shedload of twitter spam
[07:39] <DJones> If anybody see's Gord around, looks like his twitter account has been hijacked
[08:17] <knightwise> morning everyone
[08:17] <diplo> morning all
[08:20] <popey> yo
[08:21] <knightwise> Yoyoyo :)
[08:21] <knightwise> popey: i'll be interviewing the Belgian Whoovians this weekend at a cosplay event
[08:21] <knightwise> looking forward to petting their K9 :)
[08:24] <popey> heh
[08:26] <knightwise> I was taking a look at the Asus Nexus7(version 2) in the shop last week
[08:27] <knightwise> perhaps looking at getting one, but i was wondering , if I want to run Ubuntu on it .. is that gonna be ubuntu TOUCH or full ubuntu  ?
[08:27] <knightwise> Or is "full ubuntu" no longer supported ?
[08:28] <DJones> knightwise: Not tried ubuntu on mine, but I can fully recommend the N7(2)
[08:28] <DJones> You can't dual boot as I understand it (at the moment anyway)
[08:29] <popey> knightwise: yes, touch
[08:29] <popey> although the nexus 7 isn't top of the pile for support
[08:29] <popey> we mainly target the phones right now
[08:30]  * popey updates his n7
[08:30] <popey> 179MB update \o/
[08:31] <DJones> After having one since they 2013 model came out, just bought my wife a one at the weekend, she loves it already
[08:32] <DJones> Only trouble is, it gives her an excuse not to get out of bed when she's off work, she lies there watching tv/sky etc on it for hours, poor dog is left sitting there with his legs crossed
[08:42] <popey> heh
[08:44] <awilkins> Set a Google calendar item for "take dog for walk" and there's no excuse not to notice it...
[08:44] <DJones> Good thinking
[08:47] <knightwise> popey: is it worth trying the N7 out yet to run Ubuntu ?
[08:47] <popey> Ubuntu Desktop or Ubuntu Touch?
[08:50] <knightwise> Ubuntu touch.
[08:54] <popey> knightwise: sure, if you want to test and file bugs ☻
[08:56] <knightwise> and how about the 'full ubuntu' version  ? Does it support the basics ? like keyboard, wifi, sound ,
[08:58] <popey> by "full ubuntu" do you mean "ubuntu desktop"?
[08:58] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:00] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:01]  * awilkins gunts
[09:01]  * awilkins laments that he can't type
[09:07] <GentileBen> Gunts? Don't say that word, awilkins.
[09:07] <GentileBen> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gunt
[09:08] <GentileBen> NSFW
[09:09] <awilkins> It was meant to be "grunts"
[09:09] <awilkins> Thank you for the learning experience (ovO) (although the redheaded Snorg teeshirt girl is always welcome in my office...)
[09:10] <GentileBen> np bro
[09:13] <directhex> urban dictionary is a wasteland of 11 year olds trying to invent foul terms for things
[09:14]  * GentileBen gives directhex an Abe Lincoln
[09:30] <bigcalm> Good still ill morning peeps :)
[09:31] <TheOpenSourcerer> Me too.
[09:32] <TheOpenSourcerer> Had a cold for about 2 weeks now :-(
[09:32] <TheOpenSourcerer> Starting to get on my not insignificant moobs.
[09:33] <bigcalm> Poo
[09:42] <diddledan> *yawwn*
[09:43] <diddledan> wait, what happened to my nick at home?
[10:00] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:05] <brobostigon> morning davmor2
[10:05] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[10:07] <Laney> haha
[10:08] <Laney> got my royal mail share number - the automated sale line is being DoSed
[10:09] <MooDoo> Laney: did you just go for the 750?
[10:09] <MooDoo> or what ever the minimum was?
[10:09] <Laney> everyone got that much
[10:10] <MooDoo> yeah I heard that if you went with the min everyone got it, but the higher you went, the more likely it was you'd get declined
[10:10] <Laney> nope
[10:10] <Laney> you got nothing if you asked for more than 10k
[10:10] <Laney> otherwise 750
[10:10] <MooDoo> ok fair enough :)
[10:12] <awilkins> Is there a way to direct Google Maps to use different transport for different route nodes?
[10:30] <hoover> Hi folks
[10:33] <AlanBell> This Thursday is the end of the world economy, the start of the zombie apocalypse and the release of Ubuntu 13.10 http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2555-saucy-salamander-release-party/
[10:35] <AlanBell> so stock up on tinned food, bottled water and shotgun cartridges, then go to London and celebrate the release while all the city types drown their sorrows as the USA defaults on their debt
[10:35] <BigRedS> Release parties normally leave me in a state that's not ideal for dealing with the beginning of the zombie apocalypse
[10:35] <BigRedS> could the latter be rearranged?
[10:36] <AlanBell> well I think it might take a few days for it to spread from patient zero in Washington over to London
[10:36] <BigRedS> Oh good
[10:39] <MooDoo> ooo party
[10:42] <directhex> just to get this straight
[10:42] <directhex> your zombie survival plan involves heading to the heart of zombie banker land, with millions of people?
[11:05] <mungbean_> i wonder if lidl should sell the hudl
[11:05] <mungbean_> and what genius thought it was a good name
[11:06] <mungbean_> didn't twitter used to be called twttr?
[11:09] <popey> Time for noodles!
[11:09] <mgdm> oooo
[11:13] <JamesTait> Good day all; happy Ada Lovelace Day! :-D
[11:16] <BigRedS> zombie banker land is the other side of the river
[11:21]  * TheOpenSourcerer wonders what to have for lunch...
[11:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> Cor - That would be jubbly: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWjqmEyIYAA-5ge.jpg:large
[11:25] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: no this is a jubbly http://static.packagingnews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/01/shelf-review-jubbly-cola-ice-lollies/jubbly-cola.jpg
[11:30] <TheOpenSourcerer> Ewww.
[11:30] <popey> awesome noodles btw ☻
[11:31] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: what it's called a jubbly
[11:32] <Myrtti> I SHALL GO AND MAKE MARMALADE ON TOAST AND YOU HEATHENS WITH YOUR NOODLES CAN GO AND ... eat your noodles.
[11:32]  * awilkins wishes he was a heathen with noodles
[11:32] <funkyHat> I don't have marmite or toast or noodles ⢁(
[11:33]  * awilkins is going to Tesco for noodles
[11:33] <AlanBell> I had eggs
[11:33] <davmor2> Myrtti: not bitter much :D
[11:33] <Myrtti> iiiiinnnn other news...
[11:33] <Myrtti> https://twitter.com/rmilneNordic/status/390059849611870208
[11:33] <Myrtti> I could quote some latin here
[11:33] <Myrtti> let's start with O Tempora, O Mores
[11:34] <Myrtti> and follow up with Sic transit gloria mundi.
[11:34] <Myrtti> also reverse works
[11:34] <AlanBell> Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus
[11:35] <Myrtti> oh you ^____^
[11:35] <Myrtti> silly Alan.
[11:36] <popey> Dicta Latine profundissime personant
[11:37] <Myrtti> AlanBell: incidentally quoting that might wake my HP addiction dragon
[11:37] <Myrtti> so careful with that
[11:38] <davmor2> X print "clausus '
[11:38] <davmor2> X XX Goto
[11:38] <davmor2> that didn't translate so well
[11:38] <AlanBell> Salve, munde!
[11:40] <davmor2> AlanBell: Hello cleanly! I don't think that translated quite correctly either :D
[11:41] <AlanBell> Salve, Mundi! then
[12:00] <knightwise> back
[12:00] <knightwise> lost connection there for a bit
[12:04]  * TheOpenSourcerer had Cream of Chicken Soup with added home-made Naga Chilli power ;-)
[12:19] <mungbean_> is there a desk clamp/mount for a 40 inch telly? or do i need a trolley? i don't have strong walls at the office
[12:19] <popey> thats a big screen to have near your face
[12:20] <Myrtti> keeps you warm atleast
[12:20] <popey> and illuminated
[12:20] <mungbean_> its a display screen,
[12:20] <mungbean_> would a rasp pi control it OK? i guess so
[12:20] <popey> shouldn't care
[12:20] <mungbean_> acer aspire are too much
[12:27] <AlanBell> mungbean_: a raspberry pi would be fine on the HDMI interface, as long as you don't want things moving too fast
[12:29] <mungbean_> just web pages
[12:29] <mungbean_> think i'll struggle to buy a tv trolley with shelling out serious ££ though
[12:30] <mgdm> VESA desk mount and some tools?
[12:31] <mungbean_> desk mount for 40 inch monitor though?
[12:31] <mungbean_> i just need a mount that isn't a wall mount. ceiling mount is prob offlimits too
[12:36] <mungbean_> what did you guys choose re: the giffgaff outage?
[12:38] <mungbean_> WOW the casio dropped to £5.73 today. was about to buy at £7.61 yesterday
[12:39] <mgdm> mungbean_: F-91W?
[12:39] <mungbean_> yes
[12:39] <mgdm> \o/
[12:39] <mungbean_> my strap broke
[12:39] <mungbean_> oh bugger. no free delivery
[12:42] <mungbean_> Postage & Packing:£6.01
[12:44] <Myrtti> I've got http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007UNAV6I/
[12:44] <Myrtti> which is all good apart from not having 24h time
[12:44] <Myrtti> but obviously it's a woman's watch
[12:45] <mungbean_> so i can buy 2 watches for cheaper than 1 watch
[13:06] <BigRedS> My watch is held together with duct tape
[13:06] <BigRedS> and now you've got me trying to find a new one
[13:06] <AlanBell> it is Ada Lovelace day today
[13:07] <mungbean_> just bought a strap instead for 4£ inc P&P
[13:10] <directhex> AlanBell, shh. you are not the official channel "X day" announcer.
[13:10] <BigRedS> haha
[13:10] <BigRedS> It was officially announced earlier
[13:12] <AlanBell> this is true
[13:19] <MooDoo> JamesTait: what day is it today ;)
[13:49] <JamesTait> MooDoo, why, it's Ada Lovelace Day, of course!
[13:50] <davmor2> I still don't think she loved lace, But from what I hear is an awesome role model
[13:55] <directhex> her name wasn't actually ada lovelace
[13:56] <directhex> Augusta Ada King, Countess of Lovelace
[14:02] <bigcalm> Would it be crazy to try and run a vbox vm via an nfs share?
[14:02] <MooDoo> bigcalm: no don't think so, i've done it with vmware in the past, vm on the server vdk on a nas
[14:03] <bigcalm> MooDoo: ta. Saves me trying to find a spare power socket for an external hdd
[14:03] <bigcalm> Oh, hang on. I have an interface that works from 2 usb ports. That might do for now
[14:11]  * bigcalm ponders what fs to put on this external drive
[14:13] <bigcalm> Well poop
[14:13] <bigcalm> Erasing Device -- 6 hours and 2 minutes remaining
[14:14] <davmor2> bigcalm: just dd the file table ;)
[14:14] <bigcalm> I've opted to not overwrite the data. Table alterations are much quicker
[14:18] <bigcalm> davmor2: how much space would one give an vm for throwaway testing?
[14:20] <davmor2> bigcalm: depends on the testing!  I tend to use the vbox defaults if I'm not doing anything serious with the vm or 60GB if I'm doing work stuff with it
[14:21] <bigcalm> I shudder to think that 8gb isn't enough for small scale testing. Will go with the defaults then, ta
[14:21] <bigcalm> I have a 500gb drive that is currently empty, but no need to waste space
[14:23] <TheOpenSourcerer> Totally OT but rather a nice & smiley story: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/15/jon-bon-jovi-walks-fan-down-aisle-wedding
[14:23] <davmor2> bigcalm: again it just depended on what you were doing, being the dev that you are if you were planing on building Software for example that might need more space than if you were just testing if you could get your setup the way tou like it :)
[14:24] <bigcalm> davmor2: testing deployments of websites. So finding out which additional packages one will need when setting-up from a fresh 12.04.3 image
[14:25] <bigcalm> davmor2: the sites themselves aren't big, just hope the OS and packages aren't either :)
[14:26] <davmor2> no 8Gb should be find for that,  if you were building debs on it you might need more space depending on the size of the app folder you start with
[14:26] <bashrc> When is 13.10 officially out?
[14:26] <directhex> 8gb is fine for most things
[14:26] <directhex> not building LO though
[14:27] <mungbean_> anyone use x2go? its a bit like nxserver
[14:27] <davmor2> bashrc: Thursday
[14:27] <bashrc> cool
[14:27] <bashrc> I havn't tried the beta.  Is Mir usable?
[14:28] <bashrc> (expects breakage)
[14:28] <davmor2> bashrc: mir isn't default except on the phone/tablet
[14:28] <bashrc> ah
[14:29] <davmor2> directhex: or firefox, or chromium, or linux + modules, or ..............
[14:29] <ali1234> quite a lot of things really
[14:30] <davmor2> bashrc: xmir is installable but it was deemed not ready enough for multimontitor and bypass to use by default
[14:31] <ali1234> is it possible to apt-get install the touch UI + Mir on x86 yet?
[14:32] <bashrc> Is it mir which will handle features like multitouch?
[14:32] <davmor2> ali1234: you can have shell on by just install unity8 but it isn't a desktop it's just windowed effectively
[14:33] <ali1234> "shell"?
[14:33] <ali1234> does that mean i get the same as i would get on a phone, except in a window, without emulation?
[14:34] <davmor2> ali1234: yeap
[14:34] <ali1234> cool
[14:35] <ali1234> so would that be Mir on Xorg on XMir on Mir then?
[14:35] <davmor2> ali1234: but as I say not as a desktop just a window on your desktop.  you can then fullscreen it and use it as a tablet style desktop :)
[14:35] <ali1234> sure, that's close enough for me
[14:36] <davmor2> ali1234: only issue is because it is effectively touch you can have fun trying to use the edge gestures
[14:36] <ali1234> i have a tablet PC and i'm sure it would be much easier to test on that
[14:36] <ali1234> yeah the edge gestures are a pain
[14:36] <ali1234> they are hard to use on a phone with a bezel too
[15:10]  * popey returns
[15:10] <Laney> oh noes, the RM shares are higher than I sold them for
[15:10] <Laney> should probably just stop watching it now :P
[15:12] <mungbean_> RM?
[15:12] <mungbean_> royal mail
[15:13] <mungbean_> ah, thought you meant that company from the 80s
[15:13] <mungbean_> how are my ARM shares doing?
[15:16] <davmor2> mungbean_: sharing arms isn't that gunrunning and illegal?
[15:41] <mungbean_> Animal rights campaigners claim death of unborn panda cub is a 'relief' - how idiotic
[15:46] <popey> ™ /49
[15:46] <popey> bah
[16:24] <davmor2> popey: Humbug
[16:28] <ali1234> if you type "pease" into firefox, "please" isn't in the autocorrect
[16:28] <mgdm> it's a valid word, though
[16:30] <diddledan> it is?
[16:31] <diddledan> peace is a valid word. pease is debatable
[16:32] <shauno> it's in the OED, what's to debate?
[16:32] <BigRedS> Pease is valid, I don't think pease is
[16:32] <BigRedS> oh, is it? /me stands corrected
[16:32] <diddledan> really?
[16:32] <mgdm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pease_pudding
[16:32] <BigRedS> yeah, but that's the phrase, is "pease" on its own still a word?
[16:32] <shauno> mine has 'pease' as plural noun archiac, 'peas'
[16:33] <mgdm> BigRedS: yes, of course it is
[16:33] <diddledan> shauno, archaic means no longer valid :-p
[16:33] <BigRedS> of course it is?
[16:33] <mgdm> no, it means 'deprecated', I suppose
[16:33] <ali1234> well, firstly my firefox is stuck with the US dictionary and i don't know how to fix it
[16:33] <ali1234> i've fixed it several times but it always goes back
[16:33] <mgdm> BigRedS: it's a word, it's spelled correctly, the fact the rest of the phrase isn't there is irrelevant to a spell checker
[16:34] <diddledan> ali1234, you need to tell ubuntu you want british
[16:34] <ali1234> my pidgin also underlines it red
[16:35] <ali1234> in firefox "pease" suggests "please" but "Pease" does not
[16:35] <diddledan> anywho, I'm going home
[16:35] <ali1234> in pidgin they both suggest please
[16:36] <ali1234> mgdm: i don't believe it is really a word btw
[16:36] <ali1234> not in modern english
[16:36]  * mgdm shrugs
[16:37] <shauno> how can you make pease pudding without pease?
[16:50] <directhex> pease pudding hot
[16:52] <popey> pease pudding cold
[16:52] <kecskebak> Have they demolished this place? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pease_Pottage
[16:52] <kecskebak> It should be in the UK spelling checker for that alone.
[17:06] <bigcalm> Pease pudding in the pot
[17:08] <davmor2> nine days old;
[17:08] <bigcalm> Good, now I can stop thinking about that
[17:52] <diddledan__> and we're back in the room
[18:15] <shauno> I seem to have SD cards absolutely everywhere .. until I have a task for the pi.  then they appear to disappear :/
[18:16] <MartijnVdS> shauno: check your cameras :)
[18:16] <shauno> they're still on CF :/
[18:16] <MartijnVdS> hmm
[18:16] <MartijnVdS> I know I have one in my car
[18:16] <shauno> can I borrow it for the evening?  ;)
[18:17] <MartijnVdS> shauno: If you come get it 8-)
[18:17] <brobostigon> will be an interesting windy ferry trip.
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> and rainy
[18:18] <brobostigon> yep.
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> we've had the third consecutive Day of Rain here
[18:18] <brobostigon> same as here.
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> though we had a few minutes of sunshine
[18:18] <brobostigon> this afternoon, we did aswell.
[18:19] <brobostigon> and not to forget, it will be cold aswell.
[18:21] <shauno> it's been clear all weekend here.  it has me quite worried.  it's like seeing a headmaster smile - you know its plotting something
[18:50] <mungbean_> what a swindle. the council sells a version of the electoral roll, but you can opt out of it. but somebody made a "legal challenge" and now you have to re-opt out again regularly
[18:50] <mungbean_> likelihood of people remembering and realising is probably 40%
[19:00] <popey> dont you get sent a form to fill in regularly anyway?
[19:00] <popey> I did ours today and it had a tickbox for opt out
[19:01] <mungbean_> yes, and once you tick the box it should be persistent
[19:26] <diddledan__> damn you humble bundle
[19:33] <Myrtti> just cursed the same thing in two different places
[19:33] <Myrtti> I don't care about the other stuff, but TTR!
[19:33] <Myrtti> with DLC!
[19:35] <mungbean_> given up trying to watch england match on tvcatchup
[19:35] <popey> ☻
[19:36] <popey> i watched c4 news on tvcatchup earlier was really good
[19:36] <popey> "hd"
[19:38] <mungbean_> buffer stutter fail
[19:39] <mungbean_> even 160px is a fail
[19:41] <popey> hah
[19:41] <mungbean_> always buffers when england get to the penalty area
[19:41] <popey> why not watch it on a telly?
[19:42] <mungbean_> wife is watching a baking prog and its her favourite
[19:42] <mungbean_> and i'm nice like that
[19:42] <popey> yeah, i lost the remote years ago
[19:42] <mungbean_> its a fake programme though
[19:43] <mungbean_> they even put a disclaimer in the credits
[19:43] <mungbean_> along the lines of "even if this person is lame, we might choose them to win if we think they have the right look to subsequently sell ratings and books"
[19:44] <mungbean_> i picked the finalist in the first five seconds
[20:03] <ali1234> popey: you know when you do ubuntu hangouts on air... how does that work when you need to be on G+ to use it?
[20:04] <ali1234> do you all just use your personal google accounts to make the hangouts?
[20:04] <ali1234> or do you have a G+ account registered to Mr U. Buntu?
[20:04] <bittin> someone here knows dmraid ?
[20:07] <bittin> i have 2 old IDE disk i used in my Gentoo server, now i bought 2 USB to IDE adapters to try to read them, but i don't remember how i do, someone helped me figured out they where RAID0 so i bought some more IDE to USB adapters
[20:18] <popey> ali1234: i have more than one G+ account
[20:20] <popey> bittin: they're dmraid, not mdraid?
[20:21] <bittin> popey, 100% sure they are RAID 0 dmraid
[20:22] <popey> will that work? Don't they have to be attached to the chipset the RAID was created on?
[20:22] <bittin> dunno some guy said i only had to plug in them both :p
[20:22] <bittin> but might be wrong :(
[20:23] <popey> http://www.romaco.ca/blog/2012/05/28/recover-raid-array-with-dmraid/
[20:23] <bittin> cool will try
[20:24] <bittin> nah seems they are mdraid i did not remember it all :p
[20:24] <popey> :D
[20:24] <popey> that makes it easier tbh
[20:24] <popey> dunno whose stupid idea it was to call it dmraid
[20:24] <bittin> also saw some of the pins on one disk was broken so not sure if it gonna work any good :p
[20:24] <popey> ouch
[20:24] <popey> pulled out in a hurry?
[20:25] <popey> https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_Recovery
[20:25] <bittin> thx
[20:26]  * bigcalm runs off to humblebundle.com
[20:26] <bittin> will try later to tired atm =p
[20:27]  * bigcalm buys for worms only
[20:27] <popey> heh
[20:27] <bigcalm> Maybe The Bard's Tale as well
[20:27] <popey> i bought it too
[20:27] <popey> because I have OHBD
[20:27] <bigcalm> popey: is there a bundle you haven't bought?
[20:27] <popey> yeah.. I did miss one i think.
[20:28] <bigcalm> I think I skipped the last one
[20:28] <bigcalm> And I don't do the weekly or book ones
[20:28] <bittin> think i will buy it when i have money
[20:28] <bigcalm> bittin: you could buy it for almost no monies. But that's not very good sport
[20:29] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6242343/
[20:29] <popey> those are the ones I have
[20:29] <popey> missed the first android one
[20:29] <popey> and bundle 5
[20:30] <bittin> http://pastie.org/8404799
[20:30] <bittin> these are the ones i got :p
[20:31] <popey> ooh, i missed some steam keys
[20:31]  * popey adds them to his steam account
[20:34] <Myrtti> I'm not sure if it was that smart to see if bitlbee is doing ok with Google Talk.
[20:34] <Myrtti> now I've got heaps and heaps of people I don't really care to see that I could easily hide from view in Empathy
[20:37] <bigcalm> I joined the party far too late: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6242379/
[20:38] <popey> well that was a fun five minutes adding about 20 games to steam
[20:39] <bigcalm> 1st thing I always do
[20:39] <bigcalm> popey: fancy playing worms?
[20:40] <bigcalm> Ah, it doesn't run
[20:40] <bigcalm> Yay
[20:40] <popey> hah
[20:40] <popey> is it 2 player?
[20:40] <bigcalm> I'd hope so
[20:40] <bigcalm> Failed to start game (missing executable).
[20:40] <bigcalm> I hope it's just that I'm too eager
[20:41] <popey> i now have 90 Linux games on steam
[20:41] <popey> you can still download it without steam tho
[20:41] <bigcalm> 76 for me
[20:41] <bigcalm> Yeah, I'll have a look
[20:42] <bigcalm> No USC link that I can see
[20:42]  * bigcalm goes for the .sh
[20:44] <bigcalm> This will Install Worms Reloaded for Linux (single player)
[20:44] <bigcalm> Poo
[20:53] <Myrtti> bigcalm: late eh? I've got exactly two bundles now.
[20:54] <bigcalm> Myrtti: I'm guessing that's 2 more than Tony Whitmore ;)
[20:54] <Myrtti> mmm.
[20:54] <Myrtti> this is the first game one
[21:00] <popey> heh
[21:18]  * bigcalm gives up on the evening
[21:18] <bigcalm> Night peeps :)
[21:27] <diddledan__> is there any opensource app like mikrotik's "the dude" that anybody knows of which allows me to visualise my network, discover all hosts via scan, with realtime updates of availability via snmp/ping/tcp/udp?
[21:27] <BigRedS> nmap?
[21:27] <diddledan__> yeah, no
[21:27] <BigRedS> well, nmap, while and sleep :)
[21:28] <BigRedS> oh
[21:28] <BigRedS> I've never seen 'the dude'
[21:28] <diddledan__> nmap doens't cut it
[21:28] <diddledan__> nmap may help in the overall scheme as a backend however
[21:29] <diddledan__> http://www.mikrotik.com/thedude
[21:29] <BigRedS> oh, that sort of map
[21:30] <BigRedS> nifty. Nah, I've only seen that sort of thing done by a series of horrible bodges
[21:30] <diddledan__> their example is a bit contrived top-right
[21:30] <BigRedS> bt I've also never really wanted it...
[21:31] <diddledan__> I guess I'll use the dude then
[21:31] <diddledan__> I just don't want to mess about with wine