[00:12] Just got 13.10. My xmodmap file isn't working very well now. How can I easily swap the ctrl and alt keys? === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine === jamesh__ is now known as jamesh === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ === jamesh__ is now known as jamesh [07:00] thomi, ping [08:00] Saviq: hey, when do you think that landing request 196 will be ready? [08:00] didrocks, as soon as ogra wakes up ;) [08:00] didrocks, u8 is ready [08:00] veebers: hey, when do you mean to "fix AP jobs", what is it? for the smoketesting? [08:01] didrocks, u-n are landing right now [08:01] didrocks, so we only need u-s-touch to land [08:01] Saviq: ok, do you know how this is helping AP? [08:01] (like will that help the various runs when we have all tests hanging?) [08:02] didrocks, yes, I've run the suite 20 times on both maguro and mako last night [08:02] didrocks: can you elaborate, I'm not sure I understand the question [08:02] didrocks, one or two crashes on startup that I can't trace at all, but nothing hanging and such [08:02] Saviq: but you never had hangs as well recently, right? [08:03] veebers: I see that the latest unity8 has some "fix AP jobs" description, should wanted to know more :) [08:03] didrocks, I did - u8 hangs on shutdown pretty often - tsdgeos is looking into that [08:03] Saviq: ah, so maybe that's what is hanging after the first test finishes… [08:04] Saviq: let's cross fingers ;) keep me posted, I'll ensure you land today [08:04] didrocks, will do [08:04] didrocks, it might just be that upstart is more persistent at killing stuff [08:04] didrocks: can you link me to where you're seeing this please? [08:04] veebers, in the landing pipeline [08:04] Saviq: I hope it is :) [08:05] didrocks, phablet-test-run was working fine [08:05] didrocks, only thing to make sure of [08:05] veebers: I guess that's link to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/trunk/revision/461 [08:05] didrocks, is "powerd-cli display on" before starting the suite [08:05] Saviq: on utah? I don't at all, I always ensure that when testing manually personnaly [08:06] didrocks, yeah, in automation [08:06] due to bug #1233870 [08:06] bug 1233870 in mir (Ubuntu) "unity8 cpu spike after blank/unblank (nexus4)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1233870 [08:06] no [08:06] didrocks, Saviq: ah right, that was to start launching unity with upstart while testing to sort out some issues with the keyboard etc. [08:06] bug #1235000 [08:06] bug 1236525 in unity-mir "duplicate for #1235000 unity8 killed/crash then restart can result in mir unable "could not unblank display"" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1236525 [08:07] Saviq: tbh this one hang on shutdown looks not so "easy" to fix, i.e. the thread for driver painting is still there alive [08:07] may me more a mir one than an unity-mir one [08:07] ajmitch: I can just tell you this fix is in, but it didn't reallyhelp [08:07] still having a more in depth look though [08:07] greyback: did you have time to look at the fixes i made for "ctrl+c while starting" ? [08:08] tsdgeos, got it [08:08] didrocks: I'm not sure if that answers your question; But I'm just popping out, will be back later if there is anything else [08:08] tsdgeos: ah no, I didn't realise it was ready [08:08] veebers: ok, let's see, time to get that in anyway, I think it will be your tomorrow :) [08:08] greyback: yep, it should fix the crashes if you ctrl+c while starting [08:08] tsdgeos: ok, will have a look [08:09] greyback: then there's the hang we are getting on exit if there's something on screen animating, looking at that now, but seems to be pretty much a different thing [08:10] as ok, I see now didrocks. Sounds good [08:11] veebers: do you know how do i tell autopilot to forward me the debug output of the app it's running? [08:13] veebers: have a good night! [08:13] tsdgeos, -v [08:13] tsdgeos, autopilot run -v [08:13] tsdgeos, but! [08:14] Saviq: did not do what i expected yesterday [08:14] tsdgeos, with what we have in trunk [08:14] tsdgeos, ~/.cache/upstart/unity8.log [08:14] didrocks: will do thanks === alan_g|EOD is now known as alan_g [08:14] Saviq: ok [08:15] tsdgeos: yes, what Saviq said. If you use -v (or -vv) the output log should contain the stderr/stdout of the app if the test fails [08:15] veebers, that's not the case through upstart, though [08:15] tsdgeos: you can also use -o to save the output to a file [08:15] Saviq: ah I see, very good point :-\ [08:15] veebers, we should think about this [08:15] yeah, the log that Saviq pointed out is probably the best bet. [08:15] veebers, generally upstart support needs building into autopilot more [08:15] veebers, but, go away now, have a good night! [08:16] greyback, updated https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/ubuntu-keyboard/osk_rotation_lp1236489/+merge/190946 [08:16] dandrader: thank you [08:16] Saviq: sure. Yep and thomi has been working on some things in the next version of autopilot. So we will have a bunch of new goodness coming up [08:16] Saviq: heh, will do o/ [08:16] Saviq, should qmlscene work? I'm getting a seg fault when I try to run it on the device... [08:17] dandrader, it should, but I've seen people saying it doesn't [08:17] dandrader, let me try [08:18] dandrader, you passing --desktop_file_hint? [08:18] Saviq, no [08:18] dandrader, you should :) [08:18] Saviq, what's that about? [08:18] dandrader, it's always been there :D [08:18] dandrader, you need to point at a .desktop file [08:19] dandrader, so that u8 can match the session to an app [08:19] Saviq, so "--desktop_file_hint" is a qmlscene parameter? [08:19] dandrader, no, it's a "whatever" parameter [08:20] oh rats, Saviq one more thing. Are there known issues with interaction between unity and maliit/osk? [08:20] dandrader, it's only interpreted by the app manager [08:20] veebers, I didn't get any during testing [08:20] for instance running the ubuntu_keyboard tests it seems that unity crashes/restarts/something. But only if I do something similar to this: [08:20] stop maliit-server && start maliit-server && autopilot run -v ubuntu_keyboard.tests.test_keyboard.UbuntuKeyboardTypingTests.test_can_type_string [08:21] veebers, there is bug #1233245 [08:21] bug 1233245 in unity-mir "[mir] key events not working through input devices (aka volume up/down)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1233245 [08:21] veebers, will try [08:21] this is after doing this (so we can introspect the keyboard): echo exec maliit-server -testability > ~/.config/upstart/maliit-server.override [08:21] I came across it while testing this branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~veebers/ubuntu-keyboard/restarting-maliit-for-tests/+merge/190005 [08:22] veebers, nothing that I know of, if you have a .crash file I could try and see [08:22] but even when using trunk tests and using a similar command as above (also added a sleep before starting the tests) [08:23] veebers, btw just pass QT_LOAD_TESTABILITY=1 to initctl start - no need for -testability [08:23] Saviq: ah, right, I was using an outdated method [08:23] Saviq, works now. thanks! [08:24] I have some stale crash files, not sure if they are interesting, will attempt to generate some new ones later on. [08:24] veebers, k, o/ [08:24] dandrader, we'll be getting rid of that soon, when all of the apps (and app tests) are launched via upstart, which we want to be the only supported way of launching apps [08:25] Saviq, so "qmlscene foo.qml" will just work then or will I have to do it? [08:25] I mean, how am I going to do it [08:25] dandrader, it won't, you will still need a .desktop file [08:26] dandrader, and launch through upstart, something like: [08:26] initctl start application APP_ID=qmlscene ARGS=/path/to/qmlfile [08:26] or similar [08:27] ah, ok [08:27] dandrader, where qmlscene.desktop would be a generic launcher for testing purposes [08:56] Saviq, https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/unity-mir/oom_adjust [08:57] Saviq: the datetime indicator seems to be stopping randomly. i think it's crashing, but not getting a crash report. Do we have to turn it on per process? [08:57] dednick, no, if it's crashing - there should be a .crash [08:57] hm [09:00] Saviq: hey, expanding categories in the dash seems to animate really slow nowadays, intentionally? [09:01] mzanetti, bug #1224552 [09:01] bug 1224552 in Unity 8 "[Dash] Category expansion transition has varaible speeds" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1224552 [09:05] dednick, +1 [09:05] dednick, exactly what i've been seeing past week(s) [09:05] Saviq: hmm... seems to me this issue was only introduced with the branch that should fix it [09:06] mhr3: you mean datetime? [09:06] mzanetti, not really, using duration you'll always get slow for small movement, fast for large movement [09:06] mzanetti, but now the easing is wrong [09:07] dednick, yep, i told you i don't see it half of the time [09:07] yeah [09:07] dednick, also, it's using am/pm... where are we? in us? :P [09:07] mhr3: it using locale. [09:08] dednick, what's our default locale? [09:08] mhr3, en_US [09:08] i see [09:08] or en_EN? [09:08] en_US [09:09] would be nice to have a first run wizard which sets up the network, gets location, sets locale etc... [09:09] * mhr3 dreams [09:10] might be good to have a working phone first ;) [09:10] or at least a datetime. [09:11] dednick, details [09:26] mhr3: if you see that datetime thing again, can you check for a crash report? [09:26] dednick, i don't think i saw one... ever [09:26] Saviq: i've bad news :/ [09:26] mhr3: i cant seem to get it to not show up. have my phone in a reboot loop now checking for the process... but it's done it about 10 times now with no luck [09:27] now that i've qtdeclarative with debug in the phone [09:27] that hang points to our friend the amazing QQuickRenderThreadSingleContextWindowManager :/ [09:28] :| [09:28] Saviq: is it worth compiling 5.1 and seeing if it doesn't happen there? [09:28] i guess it's not [09:28] tsdgeos, qt5-beta-proper not good? [09:28] i mean we're not going to update because of this [09:28] tsdgeos, oh yeah, we're not [09:29] tsdgeos, but finding out would be good regardless [09:29] i need more phones : [09:29] tsdgeos, I know what you mean :D [09:29] took my almost a day to get all the stuff compiled with debug in this one [09:29] don't want to destroy it just to use the ppa [09:29] tsdgeos, we should have a debug-enabled PPA [09:29] i guess i could rsync the stuff [09:29] Mirv, wdyt ↑? [09:29] Saviq: like as compiled with CONFIG+=debug ? [09:29] tsdgeos, try with qt-beta-proper - if that doesn't work - just comment on the bug and leave it [09:29] that'd rock :D [09:30] tsdgeos, yes [09:30] tsdgeos, and it's easy ;) [09:30] save me quite some time [09:30] qtdeclarative compiles reasonably fast [09:30] but qtbase can be a bit of a pain [09:33] Saviq: the debug packages are all there in qt5-betaproper [09:33] and for archive versions, ddebs.ubuntu.com [09:33] Mirv, not debug packages [09:33] Mirv, but built in debug mode [09:33] Mirv, as in, with assertions and stuff [09:33] and debug logging [09:33] Mirv, basically CONFIG+=debug [09:33] right, so it's not good enough then, but requires a separate debian/rules? [09:34] Mirv, yeah [09:34] yep, makes sense for PPA test builds if there are no downsides except for size [09:36] tsdgeos, hrmpf... ideas on why I can't link http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-lvwph-easing/revision/463 ? [09:37] I bet it's not exported... [09:37] most probably [09:37] well [09:37] of course it's not [09:37] if it's installe [09:37] should be [09:37] that's weird [09:38] tsdgeos, nope, Q_AUTOTEST_EXPORT [09:38] vs. Q_QUICK_PRIVATE_EXPORT [09:38] that in qquicksmoothedanimation_p.h ? [09:38] tsdgeos, yes [09:39] Saviq: yep [09:39] grrr [09:39] so i guess if it's us wrongly installing that in the -private package or them [09:40] i mean, what's the point of that header being installed? [09:40] tsdgeos, indeed [09:40] tsdgeos, think we could make the animation a prop and pass it from QML? [09:41] shouldn't be too hard [09:42] does the update manager app actually work? everytime i run it i just get a white screen of nothingness [09:45] mhr3, you know you're search active branch? Is it up to date with trunk atm? [09:46] I'm back on all of that now after some more SDK stuff. [09:46] Trying to sort out the filters branch again. [09:46] nic-doffay, it was merged into trunk quite some time ago [09:47] nic-doffay, but filters never needed that branch, did they? [09:48] mzanetti, hrm, right, with velocity we get long categories collapsing in seconds... [09:48] mhr3, which one did it rely on? I can't recall... [09:50] mzanetti, we need a two-step animation - first collapse to "visible size" in one frame, and then collapse to the end [09:53] Saviq: yeah, something like that [09:53] * Saviq hacks [09:54] nic-doffay, anything it did rely on should be in trunk [09:55] mhr3, ok great, sorted then :) === hikiko is now known as hikiko|lunch [10:09] mzanetti, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-lvwph-easing/+merge/191139 [10:10] Saviq: should I manually merge? [10:10] mzanetti, ye [10:10] s [10:11] mzanetti, well, or I can - gonna be easier [10:11] mzanetti, you approve? [10:11] mzanetti, I'm merging [10:11] mzanetti, done [10:12] Saviq: ok... just would have needed to push [10:12] mzanetti, hopefully after a unity8 release we'll get to green and get autolanding again [10:13] Saviq: oh boy, this switching previews turned out more complex then expected :) [10:13] mzanetti, I did expect it to be complex, did you not? ;) [10:13] not that much no... [10:14] actually it would be fairly easy if QML animations wouldn't such in some certain regard [10:14] s/such/suck/ [10:15] true, true === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [10:33] Saviq, so the ui-tk is having some CI issues which timp is looking at. My branch won't land until that's sorted, however would you mind giving a code review of: https://code.launchpad.net/~nicolas-doffay/unity8/filter-selector/+merge/191145? I superseded the mp as a result of it being reliant upon a new branch. [10:33] Then once the new selectors branch lands perhaps a full functional review? [10:33] Unless you're comfortable doing both now? [10:34] nic-doffay, we'll get there, not today though - we won't merge it before release anyway [10:35] Saviq, also are you aware of anything in QML that can mimic abstraction? [10:35] nic-doffay, what kind of abstraction? [10:35] Saviq, something like an abstract base class. [10:35] nic-doffay, btw, did you use the "resubmit proposal" link in https://code.launchpad.net/~nicolas-doffay/unity8/filter-selector/+merge/183503 ? [10:35] nic-doffay, QML is *all* about abstractions [10:35] Saviq, yeah I did. [10:36] nic-doffay, weird, it didn't leave a "superseded by" / "supersedes" links [10:36] nvm [10:36] nic-doffay, any qml component can be a base component to another [10:36] nic-doffay, Item { property string foo: "bar" } [10:37] Saviq, yeah but an abstract base class so that it can't potentially be used by someone else. [10:37] Like C++/C# [10:37] nic-doffay, you mean private/protected properties? no [10:37] Saviq, yeah essentially. [10:37] nic-doffay, nope, nothing like that [10:38] Saviq, ergh right. Thanks. [10:38] nic-doffay, well, just don't expose a type to the outside world [10:38] nic-doffay, and they won't be able to use it [10:38] nic-doffay, i.e. don't put it in the qmldir file [10:39] Saviq, then only the current dir would be access it, right? [10:39] nic-doffay, no, you can import "Foo/Bar" where the internal component is [10:39] nic-doffay, and well, people would still be able to import "/full/path/to/Foo/Bar" [10:39] nic-doffay, but no one will [10:41] Saviq, I guess if that's the closest it can get to completely restricting access I'll have to settle. Thanks. [10:41] tvoss, you'd like https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/unity8/add_post_inst_script_to_gain_cap_sys_resource/+merge/191144 to be merged for release, right? [10:42] tvoss, wth does it say "updating diff" all the time? [10:44] tvoss, and is that persistent across reboots? [10:44] Saviq, yup, should be persistent across reboots, ripped of the post inst script from the gnome-keyring package [10:45] Saviq, merged, yes. Requires https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/unity-mir/oom_adjust/+merge/191123, too [10:45] Saviq, well, not strictly requires [10:46] Saviq, just land the mp [10:46] asac, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_mir/mako/97:20131015:20131015/4730/notes-app-autopilot/ reports 4 crashes in the overview, although nothing crashed [10:46] asac, seems like crash "detection" is a wildcard *crash* [10:47] lol [10:47] didrocks, +1 on https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/unity8/add_post_inst_script_to_gain_cap_sys_resource/+merge/191144 ? [10:47] popey, who is looking into the failing ap test cases for ubuntu-filemanager? [10:48] popey, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_mir/mako/97:20131015:20131015/4730/ubuntu-filemanager-app-autopilot/486002/ is a bit weird ;) [10:48] tvoss, setcap is not installed on my device, has that been added? [10:48] none == none [10:48] tvoss: nice catch :) [10:48] Saviq, hah, good catch [10:48] Saviq: I approved it, but yeah, you're right need to add setcap as a dep [10:48] Saviq: oh it was you... well done! [10:49] tvoss: I will poke balloons when he wakes up [10:49] Saviq, the *crash* was me [10:49] asac, ↑ [10:49] ;) [10:49] lol [10:49] nevermind [10:49] thanks to both of you for many things! :) [10:49] argh, which package has setcap? [10:49] tvoss, didrocks, are postinst ran on the devices or only during image creation? will that get through on the image? [10:50] Saviq, not sure [10:50] Saviq: only during image creation (or when you install a package by hand) [10:50] Saviq: but it needs to be seeded anyway and it's a dep of unity8 now [10:50] tvoss, yeah, I'm worried this is not gonna cut it [10:50] tvoss, maybe an additional upstart job instead? [10:50] Saviq, why do you think so? [10:51] Saviq: no, it should work, generating the image is about package installation basically [10:51] so if you have the right dep, that's fine [10:51] add a dep on libcap2-bin [10:51] didrocks, I know, but do we know what "setcap" does when called? [10:51] didrocks, just on unity8? [10:51] tvoss, didrocks, does it store the settings in a file somewhere? [10:51] so that it's applied on boot? [10:51] Saviq, does not need to, look at the gnome-keyring package [10:52] Saviq: yeah, the dep from the binary package you add the postinst hoook [10:52] tvoss, do we know that it's working when applied on a different device (image builder) than the target? [10:52] Saviq: well, I guess that's stephane's job to ensure that [10:52] tvoss, like how does it know? [10:53] maybe it just stores it on the file itself? [10:54] "Failed to set capabilities on file `/usr/bin/unity8' (Operation not supported)" [10:54] tvoss, ↑ [10:55] Saviq, it stores them as extended attributes [10:55] Saviq: it's part of file system capabilities, I think it's the same set of attribute or rights that we do have [10:55] tvoss, didrocks, we're on ext2 and not mounted xattr [10:55] \o/ [10:55] ext2 on touch, really? [10:55] * didrocks looks [10:56] can we please test that stuff actually works? [10:56] /dev/loop0 on / type ext2 (rw,relatime,errors=continue) [10:57] Saviq, yup, my bad [11:00] /food === hikiko|lunch is now known as hikiko [11:04] mzanetti, any idea what this is? [11:04] file:///home/phablet/shell/Dash/DashPreviewPlaceholder.qml: Object destroyed during incubation [11:04] otp [11:21] Mirv: i can't use qt5-beta-proper [11:22] Mirv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6240105/ [11:23] tsdgeos: right. I haven't had time for the PPA for weeks, but the auto-builds are still running. that sounds like that the diverts from qtmultimedia-touch don't take it kindly that the diverted package gets upgraded. [11:24] or, right, that the diverted package actually gets to the same version [11:24] so qtmultimedia-touch would need upgrading to work with that, then [11:26] * tsdgeos uninstalls billions of multimedia pckages [11:28] Saviq: ubuntu-touch-session was providing the upstart session right? [11:28] Saviq: you need a replaces: in that case [11:28] is that dropped from ubuntu-touch-session as well? [11:28] (and ogra doing it?) [11:29] let's see if stuff still starts [11:33] Saviq: I'll buy a new pair of glass it seems :p the replaces is there === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [11:48] how do I see the video carousel? putting videos? [11:48] or is there a trick or sole to enable? [11:48] scope [11:50] Cimi, put videos in, yes [11:50] Cimi, if they don't show up - try searching to refresh, but it should be fine [11:50] first have to download 6 [11:50] Cimi, if they still don't - you might not have the right codecs [11:50] don't have any [11:51] Saviq, which codecs are supported? [11:51] or sample videos I can take? [11:52] trying also not to fill the memory [11:57] Saviq: also happens with 5.1.1 so may not be that then [11:58] lunch! [12:00] Saviq, tsdgeos we also have another issue in qt that I think we should distropatch [12:00] the default maximumFlickVelocity on the devices seems to be slow [12:01] indeed we tweak it when we need, since we have higher pixel density [12:01] I think we should distropatch qt to change the default value accordingly to pixel density === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [12:21] Saviq, ping [12:22] Saviq, unity8 in trunk seems to break my sim signals.. i.e. no signals [12:22] I have to open the messaging app or the dialer app first and then the signals come back [12:23] because opening those apps invokes telephony-service and which I assume calls ofono [12:23] sil2100: please track that ^ [12:23] om26er, that will be fixed in session-manager-touch [12:23] om26er, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/session-manager-touch/drop-unity8/+merge/190842 [12:25] Saviq, ok. I reported a bug for that a few hours ago. I'll assign it you then. [12:26] om26er, k === jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp [12:37] mhr3: when do you see this message? [12:38] mzanetti, when playing with switching-previews :) [12:39] mhr3: I guessed that far. I don't see it tho. so probably some certain corner case [12:40] mzanetti, sorry, no exact way to repro [12:53] mzanetti, saw bug #1239750 ? [12:53] bug 1239750 in Unity 8 "Launcher items get "stale" after app upgrades" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1239750 [12:53] Saviq: yes [12:53] mhr3, it sometimes happen when an item in a ListView is destroyed before it completed [12:54] Saviq: not sure yet how to tackle this [12:54] Cimi: i think they somehow fixed that in later qts === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:54] tsdgeos, so we should back port no? [12:54] Saviq: given that the appID is indeed a different one [12:54] so it's in fact a different app [12:54] Cimi: no, we should update :D [12:55] tsdgeos, indeed [12:55] mzanetti, appid://blah.blah.blah/blah/current-user-verion [12:55] version [12:55] Saviq: do appids now contain slashes? [12:55] good thing this stuff is communitcated :) [12:55] mzanetti, no [12:55] mzanetti, appid:// !== application:/// [12:56] mzanetti, appid:// is a way to target an app at no specific version [12:56] mzanetti, like ppid://com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-facebook/webapp-facebook/current-user-version [12:56] *appid === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:56] mzanetti, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/url-dispatcher/trunk.13.10/revision/34 [12:56] mhm... ok. will check it out [12:57] Saviq: I think the switching-previews are one step closer. pushed a bunch of fixes [12:57] mzanetti, why we need the "current-user-version" you'll need to ask tedg ;) [12:57] mzanetti, cool beanz [12:57] Saviq: i looked at the code and it seems you could request a specifc version too maybe [12:57] url-dispatcher [12:57] tsdgeos, yes yes [12:57] seems to have some kind of support for it [12:58] tsdgeos, appid://com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-facebook/webapp-facebook/0.1.5 [12:58] tsdgeos, but that's the same as [12:58] application:///com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-facebook_webapp-facebook_0.1.5.desktop [12:58] ah [12:58] ok [12:58] tsdgeos, and I just don't get why we need the "current-user-version" at all [12:58] couldn't it just be [12:59] appid://com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-facebook/webapp-facebook/ [12:59] ah [12:59] for the "current user version"? [12:59] sure [12:59] like what else would you request [12:59] TBH I think ↑ that should be the default [12:59] and version as a url param [12:59] i.e. appid://com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-facebook/webapp-facebook?version=0.1.5 [12:59] Saviq: so, what do you want me to do with the hang on animation, go back to qt5.0.x and keep trying to find out what's wrong? [13:00] or well, appid://com.ubuntu.developer.webapps/facebook?version=0.1.5 would be even better :P [13:00] ETOOMANYWEBAPPS [13:00] tsdgeos, no [13:00] hang on quit on animation i mean [13:00] tsdgeos, upstart seems to take care of it for us now [13:00]