[00:00] <glycan> seriously, I can't find any TTY config insturctions anywhere
[00:00] <BarryBlack> well, nullmailer keeps screwing me over by saying "Sending failed:  Unspecified temporary error"
[00:01] <BarryBlack> i know i have the mail config set up right, i've made a user and a group previously to installing nullmailer
[00:01] <bennypr0fane_> hello, can someone help me with Wine? I have a Windows application called Electronics Workbench which does start in my rather fresh installation of Ubuntu Gnome 13.04, but not in regular Ubuntu. I need to used it in Ubuntu for now though. How can I check what's wrong
[00:01] <reisio> bennypr0fane_: it's unlikely Unity vs GNOME is the relevant difference
[00:01] <reisio> bennypr0fane_: these are two separate installations?
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> http://www.maketecheasier.com/change-console-fonts-in-ubuntu    perhaps glycan
[00:02] <zykotick9> glycan: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"
[00:02] <clifter> Hi - Running Ubuntu 13.10 - Missing the Log-off, Shutdown icon in top right corner of desktop. Have Terminal before. What is best way to get back to default panel ? ?
[00:03] <zykotick9> glycan: that's called "console" or "linux console", a TTY is ANY terminal...
[00:03] <bennypr0fane_> reisio, yes, separate. And that's what I was thinking, the desktop shouldn't make a difference
[00:03] <reisio> glycan: I call it 'outside of X'
[00:03] <reisio> bennypr0fane_: and likely isn't
[00:04] <reisio> bennypr0fane_: it's probably some other difference
[00:04] <reisio> bennypr0fane_: what does the output in a terminal say?
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> glycan:  /etc/default/console-setup   has settings also.
[00:04] <bennypr0fane_> reisio, for what command?
[00:04] <reisio> bennypr0fane_: whatever wine command you're using
[00:05] <linus>  /msg NickServ REGISTER asemlah  foo@bar.com
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> clifter, 13.10 is on #ubuntu+1 for a couple more days till released.
[00:06] <zykotick9> glycan: fyi, i doubt unicode is possible... i always get squares :(
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> glycan:  for the console. check out fbterm  it  allows extra features by using the framebuffer-console
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> !info fbterm
[00:06] <jubale> How do we add menu entries for binary applications installed via tarball??
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> i THINK i might have seen unicode characters with fbterm on the console while useing weechat in here.
[00:07] <bennypr0fane_> reisio, I'm not using it from the command line, I just go to the .exe file in the file manager, right-click and choose "open with Wine Windows- application Starter"
[00:07] <bennypr0fane_> I can start other windows apps though in regular Ubuntu
[00:08] <jubale> What do you mean by 'other windows apps'?
[00:08] <bennypr0fane_> reisio, btw I'm talking about 2 different installs of Ubuntu on the same computer
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> i tend to run wine/windows apps in terminal bennypr0fane_  - because if often tehres error messages you may not see if you just 'double click'
[00:09] <bennypr0fane_> jubale e.g. I can launch a  Win pdf viewer, but not this other program "Electronics Workbench"
[00:09] <Infandum> If I install Ubuntu 13.10 now, can I update it to the REAL Ubuntu 13.10 when it's released?
[00:09] <bennypr0fane_> Dr_Willis, I don't know how to do that in terminal
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> Infandum, yes and 13.10 till then is #ubuntu+1
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> Infandum:  of course you can.
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> bennypr0fane_:  wine /the/path/to/the/whtever.exe
[00:10] <bennypr0fane_> aha
[00:10] <Infandum> Dr_Willis: How can I do that? Will it pop up with a message?
[00:10] <acovrig> I installed and drivers from amd.org (not apt-get) because I was trying a friend's card, and now I can't get a GUI (w/my nvidia card)
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> Infandum:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade        will do it also.
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> Infandum:  its ust a typical update/upgrade..
[00:10] <Infandum> DR_Willis: Thank you!
[00:10] <jubale> bennypr0fane: How are you attempting to launch the application?
[00:11] <bennypr0fane_> jubale I said so above
[00:11] <bennypr0fane_> what's the keybd shortcut to launch terminal?
[00:12] <bennypr0fane_> I keep forgetting that
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> i just put a teminal icon in the panel. ;)
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> press-hold super key to see a list of keybord shortcuts
[00:13] <reisio> bennypr0fane_: from the commandline would give you useful output
[00:13] <reisio> bennypr0fane_: CTRL+ALT+t
[00:13] <bennypr0fane_> reisio, ha, that's it, thanks!
[00:15] <bennypr0fane_> whoa that's a lot of jumbled code
[00:15] <clifter> wilee-nilee: Thanks didn't know.
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[00:17] <bennypr0fane_> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6238435/
[00:17] <BarryBlack> great i fixed it
[00:17] <acovrig> Graphics seem just fine for lightdm, however when I login, I have a cursor, but nothing else, I see it is trying to display gnome-terminal (startup item) but isn't showing the entire window and I don't think I can interact with it
[00:17] <BarryBlack> that was just enourmously stupid
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> acovrig:  try making a new user - and see if the new user has the same issues
[00:19] <bennypr0fane_> hm not sure I understand this output. So maybe it can't find those libraries?
[00:21] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: I tried the guest session and I just get the default background and mouse, upon pressing <super> I get a red screen with a mouse yet there appears to be a window (the way the cursor changes to a resize window icon thing, yet I don't see a window)
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> acovrig:  so the guest user has teh same issue., may as well test with a totally new made user 'sudo adduser billgates'   if that user also has the same issue. that points to a  driver/Config issue with the driver or compiz
[00:23] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: do you know what the drivers would be called for me to uninstall from AMD (I tried dpkg -l | grep -i "fglrx\|AMD" and didn't see anything)
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> acovrig:  i dont use ati unless i have to. this whole 'compiz/unity dosent totally load' is sadly a rather common problem i see in here with ati, and nvidia. and even intel at times.
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> acovrig:   lot of the time its the users config files that are messed up. wheich is why i asked if a newly made user worked.
[00:25] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: yea, the new user has the same issue (I have to Ctrl+Alt+F2, skill to logout) and I have the nvidia drivers installed (current card), I just installed the AMD drivers when I was temporarily in a system with AMD instead of Nvidia.
[00:25] <commie> what's up? apt-get is giving me a funny error (/var/cache/apt/archives/squid-prefetch_1.1-3_all.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1). how do i fix this so i can apt-get remove the offending pkg?
[00:26] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: would 'apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-settings' help?
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> acovrig:  you had ati and amd both in that box?   you did remove teh  drivers for one card befor installing the other?
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> acovrig:  run the nvidia-settings tool to see if the nvidia drivers are even in use.
[00:28] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: I normally am using Nvidia (as I am trying to now) but was temporarily in an AMD system (so I have both drivers installed) how do I uninstall the AMD drivers (nothing fglrx* is installed) and set nvidia as the default?
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> Im not even sure :) i never mixx the 2
[00:28] <Marlenee> what is "RX" "TX" mean in bmon tool ??
[00:29] <commie> ... no basic apt-support here? can i get another channel suggested?
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get purge  fgl<tab>  perhaps :) if you can see whts installed  Its possible one of the drivers blacklisted some modles
[00:29] <Rena> Marlenee, probably receive and transmit
[00:30] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: I tried apt-get purge 'fgl*' and it said none was installed.
[00:30] <cbilljones> i need to run a vnc server that runs on boot and gives me a shared session(need to see what user sees on other end)
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  run a vncserver from /etc/rc.local as the user you need, then both of you can vnc-viewer into the session
[00:31] <bennypr0fane_> can anyone help me make sense of that output?
[00:31] <bennypr0fane_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6238435/
[00:31] <cbilljones> dr_willis will that allow me to connect at login screen? i need that as well
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  you will need to set the vncsession to run lightdm i imagine then
[00:32] <sgehrman> Just installed 13.10 and my xmodmap to swap the ctrl and alt keys doesn't work.  What's the best way to do this?
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  but then that may cause issues with users connecting to it.
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  ive seen it done befor like that in the past. but if all users logged out. the session would end.
[00:33] <cbilljones> dr_willis that is the issue i have now
[00:34] <cbilljones> dr_williams i need to be able to vnc in, logout, and log back in to differant session
[00:34] <commie> what's up? apt-get is giving me a funny error (/var/cache/apt/archives/squid-prefetch_1.1-3_all.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1). how do i fix this so i can apt-get remove the offending pkg?
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  ive seen setups where you vnc in = get a new session each time.  old ones close out when you exit.
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  freenx also can work that way
[00:34] <acovrig> run vncserver in a while:; loop?
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> ive seen guides ages ago about getting vncserver spawning from init, or as a service
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> not noticed any updated guides recently. I dont need the feature
[00:35] <cbilljones> dr_williams i think i need from init or something for what i need
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> if i want vnc session, i ssh in,  run vncserver, then  connect.
[00:36] <acovrig> I personally do a ssh -L5901:localhost:5900 and run x11vnc (so x11vnc vs vncserver)
[00:36] <jrib> commie: my suggestion is to use "set -x" in the pre-removal script and debug the error
[00:36] <cbilljones> dr_williams that works for most scenarios, but mine is kind of unique
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> i rarely want to see the current visible desktop. ;)
[00:37] <commie> jrib, i don't understand that
[00:38] <cbilljones> dr_williams these are point of sale devices, when i get support call i need to see what they see, and sometimes fix things, then i usually want to exist and login to a full dm, all they get is a very basic unity with no panel/launcher
[00:38] <acovrig> if I manually change xorg.conf does 'service lightdm restart' do the trick, or should I reboot?
[00:38] <cbilljones> dr_williams i can bring up term with ctrl+alt+t, i suppose thats sufficient
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  vnc over the internet is a big security  (BIG BIG) hole.   unless you use a ssh tunel
[00:38] <commie> jrib: i'm just trying to get apt to do it (or synaptic) but both fail. what is this setting flags? in my apt-line?
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  so id say its best to setup ssh and do it that way
[00:39] <cbilljones> dr_williams these arnt on net, i need to logmein to windows box and lan and vnc from there
[00:40] <acovrig> Has anyone gotten Ubuntu 13 to boot on a MacBook Pro 9,2 using the intel graphics (instead of the GPU) so the battery doesn't die so fast?
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> if you want to see their CURRENT desktop. that would be x11vnc. or vino.
[00:40] <cbilljones> dr_williams i may try x11vnc, with vino i cant seem to get to work at login screen
[00:41] <cbilljones> dr_williams and user doesnt have keyboard or even password to login
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> you use x11vnc OR vini
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> vino
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> dependng on what desktop/window manager you are using
[00:42] <cbilljones> dr_williams well its lightdm at login, unity after.. default ubuntu setup
[00:42] <acovrig> Where does ccsm (CompizConfig Settings Manager) keep the settings?
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> acovrig:  ~/.compiz i belive or in .config/
[00:42] <sgehrman> Just installed 13.10 and my xmodmap to swap the ctrl and alt keys doesn't work.  What's the best way to do this?
[00:42] <jrib> commie: pastebin full input and output
[00:43] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: ~/.compiz-1 (cuz I don't have .compiz)? I got graphics with 'apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-common' however all my ccsm settings are gone...
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> sgehrman, #ubuntu+1 is the 13.10 channel till release.
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> compiz may have changed its location in the laste few releases.
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> rename the dir and see perhaps.
[00:44] <wankman> I have a AMD catalyst problem
[00:44] <commie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6238517/
[00:44] <wankman> Everytime I unplug the power adaptor, the screen blanks out, then comes back on after changing my resolution to 1360x768
[00:44] <commie> i have purged squid-prefetch 2x and squid
[00:45] <commie> and tried it w/ apt-get reinstall
[00:45] <wankman> Then I have to manually change it back to 1366x768
[00:45] <acovrig> I copied .compiz-1 and it is still default, upon examining the folder, it isn't ccsm settings :/
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> acovrig:  personally id reset everything back to defaults and redo them .
[00:46] <mythri> does 1360 vs 1366 make a big difference?
[00:46] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: yea, that is what seems to have happened
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> I often find compiz and unity can get confused. and needs reset. ;)
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> but i do push things a little hard in my testing
[00:48] <commie> jrib: ^^ (not sure if you are waiting for it or saw it. i appreciate the help.)
[00:48] <jrib> commie: thanks, I did not see it until the highlight
[00:49] <jrib> commie: ls /etc/init*/squid-prefetch*
[00:51] <commie> /etc/init.d/squid-prefetch
[00:51] <jrib> commie: sudo /etc/init.d/squid-prefetch status
[00:52] <commie> Usage: /etc/init.d/squid-prefetch {start|stop|restart|force-reload}
[00:52] <commie> stop?
[00:52] <Nothing_Much> So I'm having problems with my OpenID
[00:52] <Nothing_Much> Why can't I login to it?
[00:52] <jrib> commie: pastebin that script
[00:53] <commie> like.. cat the one that's error 1-ing?
[00:53] <jrib> commie: /etc/init.d/squid-prefetch
[00:53] <umarzuki> commie: not event work with dpkg -r ?
[00:54] <commie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6238547/
[00:55] <Nothing_Much> So I'm having problems with my OpenID
[00:55] <Nothing_Much> Why can't I login to it?
[00:55] <jrib> commie: ps -ef | grep squid
[00:55] <jrib> Nothing_Much: please use one line
[00:55] <Nothing_Much> So I'm having problems with my OpenID, why can't I login to it?
[00:56] <commie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6238549/
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> Nothing_Much, Can you give the channel some details?
[00:56] <umarzuki> commie: seems that squid3 service is up
[00:57] <Nothing_Much> "Unable to log in with your OpenID provider:Canceled "
[00:57] <jrib> commie: sudo /etc/init.d/squid-prefetch start
[00:57] <Nothing_Much> That's all I get when I attempt to login]\
[00:57] <Nothing_Much> *login
[00:57] <Infandum> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a preloaded Windows 8 machine. I disabled fastboot and secureboot in the BIOS. When I put in the flash drive live usb, I get the boot screen "try ubuntu, install ubuntu, etc" but when I hit try Ubuntu it gives me a blank screen!
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Infandum
[00:58] <ideopathic> hi all.. we have an 11.10 system that we would like to upgrade to 12.04 LTS.  Is there a way to do this?
[00:58] <jrib> !eolupgrade | ideopathic
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> !eol  ideopathic
[00:58] <ideopathic> thank you
[00:59] <OerHeks> Nothing_Much, Unable to login what/where?
[00:59] <Nothing_Much> Is there a channel for OpenID?
[00:59] <Nothing_Much> Trying to login to askubuntu with my openID
[00:59] <Nothing_Much> From launchpad?
[00:59] <Nothing_Much> I don't know
[00:59] <Nothing_Much> OpenID is too convoluted, when I THOUGHT it would've been nice to use as an alternative to signing into Google
[01:00] <commie> Starting prefetch daemon for squid: squid-prefetch.
[01:00] <commie> Starting prefetch daemon for squid: squid-prefetch.
[01:00] <commie> Starting prefetch daemon for squid: squid-prefetch.
[01:00] <FloodBot1> commie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:01] <jrib> commie: ps -ef | grep squid
[01:03] <Nothing_Much> Wait
[01:03] <Nothing_Much> I have no idea what I'm doing
[01:04] <jrib> commie: if removal doesn't work still, then comment the line that tries to stop squid-prefetch in /var/lib/dpkg/info/squid-prefetch.prerm .  I have to go now.  Someone else can help you if you aren't sure
[01:05] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: I added the option nomodeset but I can't exit the editor. I tried Ctrl-x and F10 as it says to but that is not doing anything.
[01:05] <Nothing_Much> Can somebody at least tell me why I'm getting this "canceled" message after I attempt to login?
[01:06] <commie> THANK YOU jrib
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> Infandum, Not sure if the uefi environment makes this different, have you had a chance to confirm the downloads sum?
[01:08] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: How do I do that on windows?
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | Infandum
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> It has windows instructions
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> Infandum, There are two options to nomodeset the edit, or I believe it is f4 for a menu to do so.
[01:11] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: F4 does not work. When I edited, esc worked and the command line option worked
[01:11] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: But F10 does not for some reason
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> Infandum, cool, so you are booted?
[01:11] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: No, I mean the command line for grub
[01:12] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: I can't check if nomodeset works because F10 does nothing
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> Infandum, Ah, how did you load the usb, some loaders are problematic, and you have to look up their key press versions
[01:12] <hewhomust> are you booting the usb in uefi or legacy mode?
[01:13] <repudiate> what's uefi mode?
[01:13] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: I first tried linuxlive usb creater, then unetbootin
[01:14] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: Both do the same thing. I am trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 final beta
[01:14] <repudiate> Unified Extesible Firmware Interface?
[01:14] <repudiate> What the hel...
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> Infandum, The nomodeset option is just a guess here, so I would answer other questions here. I have not had the pleasure/pain of the uefi experience. msdos I know.
[01:15] <hewhomust> uefi is shit damn windows
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> !language | hewhomust
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> help if you can but please don't swear while doing it.
[01:16] <hewhomust> uefi theoretically is very good much larger file sizes
[01:16] <hewhomust> than dos
[01:16] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: WAIT! I just booted into "install ubuntu" and I got a black screen (like, no backlighting at all), but after a while I heard the ubuntu drums!
[01:16] <repudiate> wilee-nilee: Nice name.
[01:16] <repudiate> Where did you get it from? Please PM me.
[01:16] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: Does that confirm nomodeset as the issue!?
[01:17] <repudiate> I still have no idea what nomodeset is Infandum
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> Infandum, I would guess a driver issue, nomodeset is one option I know of, you might look up the computer and what you doing to see whats on the web, and askubuntu
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> repudiate, I don't pm.
[01:17] <repudiate> oh, ok.
[01:18] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: The computer is brand new and not technically released yet...
[01:18]  * repudiate is dejected.
[01:18] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: Best buy was just selling them even when the manufacterer was not yet
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> that is about the gist of what I know, uefi is not an area I know much about.
[01:19] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: I guess that means I wait for a new kernel?
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> Infandum, Not necessarily, someone here might know, the ubuntu forums has several users concentrated on this here is one. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> Infandum, It's not so much the computer but the hardware that matters basically, it would have what some others provide, and the manufacturers version of the uefi thang.
[01:24] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: I don't get that pretty splashscreen. I just get the ugly grub2 one. The pretty one has easy settings...how can I get that one?
[01:25] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: on the liveusb I mean
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> Infandum, I have never ran a install on a uefi computer, so I have no idea what the options are, I'm avoiding it as long as possible.
[01:26] <Infandum> wilee-nilee: ohhh kaaaay
[01:26] <InFlames> does anyone know a powerful tool for managing a complex hosts file? i have used gas mask on mac, and would love something similar
[01:26] <InFlames> http://www.clockwise.ee/gasmask/
[01:30] <cbilljones> whenever i reboot it remembers last session instead of picking my default, any ideas on how to fix?
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> cbilljones, release nd desktop?
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> and*
[01:31] <rypervenche> InFlames: You could make a simple bash script to do that, or simply manually move the files yourself.
[01:31] <cbilljones> wilee-nilee 13.04/unity
[01:31] <InFlames> rypervenche, if you view the screenshots it might give you a better idea of my intent and needs
[01:32] <InFlames> i'd prefer gui based
[01:32] <InFlames> something that can be manually handled by the menu
[01:32] <cbilljones> wilee-nilee but login is lightdm(default)
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> cbilljones, you logging from a cli?
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> cbilljones, Have you run the lightdm start to set it as default
[01:33] <rypervenche> InFlames: I saw that. You could make something GUI-based without too much hardship if you understand bash scripting. You could even make keyboard shortcuts to do the work for you, which would be even faster than a GUI.
[01:33] <cbilljones> wilee-nilee i am logging in from x11vnc-server atm, but was doing samething at office with local session only
[01:33] <InFlames> you can script and make something that's gui based?
[01:34] <InFlames> i will have to look into that
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> cbilljones, from the desktop sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[01:34] <cbilljones> wilee-nilee i have autologin enabled, after reboot it logs into whatever session was used last, i need it to always pick default
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> cbilljones, as long as you run it from the cli it will set it as default I believe, from the desktop or a cli probably.
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> desktop or tty
[01:36] <cbilljones> wilee-nilee it was doing same thing when i wasnt using vnc, standing right at it with keyboard
[01:37] <JonO> hello?
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> cbilljones, Maybe someone else would be better help.
[01:39] <cbilljones> wilee-nilee it seems to be some sort of save state option somewhere, pretty sure its a lightdm thing
[01:39] <PwrSurge> any way to fix ia32-libs on 12.04?
[01:39] <PwrSurge> amd64
[01:39] <PwrSurge> it has unresolved dependencies
[01:39] <PwrSurge> tried a few fixes posted on the web and they don't work
[01:40] <umarzuki> PwrSurge: sometimes a quick 'sudo apt-get update' would do the trick
[01:41] <umarzuki> in case you had not done that in a while
[01:41] <PwrSurge> no
[01:41] <PwrSurge> not so simple
[01:41] <PwrSurge> this is a known issue
[01:41] <umarzuki> else this is caused by ppa or other repos
[01:41] <PwrSurge> with amd64 platform
[01:41] <PwrSurge> fresh upgrade
[01:42] <PwrSurge> The following information may help resolve the situation:
[01:42] <PwrSurge> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:42] <PwrSurge>  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch
[01:43] <PwrSurge> and when i try to install multiarch
[01:43] <PwrSurge> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:43] <PwrSurge>  ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 : Depends: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[01:43] <PwrSurge>                             Depends: gtk2-engines:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[01:43] <PwrSurge>                             Depends: gtk2-engines-murrine:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[01:43] <PwrSurge>                             Depends: gtk2-engines-pixbuf:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[01:43] <FloodBot1> PwrSurge: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <PwrSurge> and others
[01:43] <PwrSurge> I won't paste them all
[01:44] <cbilljones> wilee-nilee look at second answer here, maybe this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/62833/how-do-i-change-the-default-session-for-when-using-auto-logins
[01:44] <PwrSurge> there's also  Recommends: libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[01:44] <PwrSurge> at the bottom
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> cbilljones, 13.04 is not using 2d
[01:46] <cbilljones> wilee-nilee i know replace that with my custom session
[01:47] <cbilljones> wilee-nilee i made the change and have rebooted, we will know soon ;)
[01:48] <cbilljones> wilee-nilee no go, rebooted to regular unity
[01:48] <tomswartz07> cbilljones: you're trying to change lightdm's session?
[01:49] <tomswartz07> i just did that the other day. let me peek at my notes.
[01:49] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 well the session lightdm logs into, i need it to always pick my default
[01:50] <tomswartz07> right- so you have xfce installed (for example) and want to autologin to that?
[01:51] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 basically, its actually a custom unity session i have created, i can pick it from login screen and login, and if i reboot it autologs into that, however if i switch sessions and reboot, it boots into whatever i used last
[01:52] <tomswartz07> cbilljones: righto. there's a way to hardcode the session into lightdm's config file
[01:53] <cbilljones> tomswartzo7 yes, thats what i need i think :)
[01:53] <tomswartz07> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[01:53] <cbilljones> yup
[01:53] <dn4> hey is 13.04 going to support a macbook pro 5,5 ?
[01:53] <dn4> I noticed nothing was written up on it
[01:54] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 i is there, what command do i need in lightdm.conf?
[01:54] <tomswartz07> change under the [seat defaults] section: user-session=<custom name>
[01:54] <tomswartz07> double check your 'greeter session' as well
[01:55] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 user session is correct , unity-greeter is unity-greeter
[01:55] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 do i change unity-greeter to my session?
[01:56] <tomswartz07> hm. I have unity-greeter removed completely.
[01:56] <tomswartz07> wait. hang on
[01:56] <tomswartz07> haha
[01:58] <tomswartz07> yeah - greeter-session is unity-greeter. user-session is the custom name of the session.
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> You can use another greeter of course...
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> i sort of like the look of the xubuntu greeter. ;)
[01:59] <SonikkuAmerica> lightdm-gtk-greeter
[02:00] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 i have tried running "/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults --session [session name]" and rebooted, will see if that helps, though i think i did that already
[02:01] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 nope, lol still remembers last session arg
[02:02] <PwrSurge> fixed it
[02:02] <PwrSurge> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2025560&p=12246372#post12246372
[02:03] <cbilljones> sonikkuamerica i think the greeter is just login page, correct?
[02:03] <SonikkuAmerica> cbilljones: You are right
[02:04] <tomswartz07> cbilljones: it's weird that it's ignoring the session info.
[02:04] <cbilljones> sonikkuamerica my issue is it is autologging into my last session, not default session
[02:05] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 i know, its odd :(
[02:05] <Guest67238> hi everyone, is anyone here using 13.10?
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> Guest67238, people on #ubuntu+1 are
[02:06] <Guest67238> i have 13.04 but for the wireless it takes a while to connect
[02:06] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 from wiki.ubuntu.com "The greeter will default to give you the last session you chose, so this option will only change the default session" this my my trouble
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> cbilljones: Is auto-login enabled at all is System Settings > Users?
[02:07] <cbilljones> sonikkuamerica yes
[02:07] <tomswartz07> cbilljones: did you try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146265/programmaticaly-change-lightdm-autologin-session-type
[02:08] <Guest67238> is it worth upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10?
[02:08] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 no, let me read it over
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  the users .dmrc sets what session they use by default overrideing the system default If the .dmrc file exists
[02:09] <cbilljones> dr_willis, .dmrc reverts any change i make after reboot
[02:09] <allengreen> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:09] <allengreen>  ntop5 : Depends: pfring (= 5.6.1-6725) but 5.6.2-6817 is to be installed
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  the user normally selects their session at the lightdm screen,   system reads .dmrc and it uses that as their default session.
[02:10] <allengreen>  pfring : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic but it is not going to be installed
[02:10] <allengreen> I don't want to install inux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  the users .dmrc shouldent change unless they seelct a differnt session
[02:10] <allengreen> I just need to remove ntop5
[02:10] <cbilljones> dr_willis it seems for some reason pick last session on its own and update .dmrc accordingly
[02:11] <allengreen> but I can't , can anybody hep me.
[02:11] <darkangel> Hey on https://one.ubuntu.com/referrals/referee/3129888/ how do u get 500 GB free of back up storeage? do u just send link through E-Mail or is there something else u do?
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  you mean the autologin is using whats in the users .dmrc and not the system wide default?
[02:12] <mamece2> Hello, i need some help with something easy, i have ubuntu and i need to browse a file in my sd external card. how can i do it?
[02:12] <tomswartz07> allengreen: try running apt-get dist-upgrade. it almost sounds like you have some packages floating with upgrades
[02:12] <mamece2> my phone is an android GS3 with jely bean 4.2
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> mamece2:  the file manager should show the sd card in its left side panel
[02:12] <cbilljones> dr_willis no, autologin is picking whatever i used last, and editing .dmrc on its own
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> mamece2:  on a phone.. thats a differnt story
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  log out. select what you want, log back in.. then check the .dmrc file
[02:13] <tomswartz07> mamece2: you might need MPD support for the new filesystem
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> auto login SHOULD be using the last the user selected.
[02:13] <allengreen> yes, But I don't wanna install the linux-image.
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> and the last they selected they should have saved in their .dmrc
[02:13] <mamece2> I though i just need to mount the sd card and voila
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> mamece2:  easiest thing to do with android devuces is to use 'airdroid' and wifi to get to files
[02:14] <mamece2> Dr_Willis:  ive read about that :(
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> mtp support has improved with each release of ubuntu. some of the old ones had issues
[02:14] <Anonynimity> Hey does anyone know why Oracle Java v. 1.40 would not work with firefox in ubuntu12.04
[02:14] <cbilljones> dr_willis the problem is the user doesnt pick, it auto logs in. If i remote in, switch sessions and reboot, it reboots into my session; i need to change this
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> Airdroid is a Must have issue
[02:14] <mamece2> Dr_Willis:  ive 12.04 guess it does support it. i cant get gmtp to work
[02:15] <advx> Hi All Good Morning
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  switch session how? See whats in the users .dmrc file now. keep track of what its changeing to.
[02:15] <Anonynimity> define notwork mamece2
[02:15] <tomswartz07> mamece2: sorry- i mean MTP. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  the user CAN log out and select a differnt session. that should then set their default for  the next autologin
[02:15] <cbilljones> dr_willis it changes to whatever was used last
[02:15] <cbilljones> dr_willis i know, that doesnt help me
[02:16] <cbilljones> dr_willis i need it to always login to default session on reboot
[02:16] <cbilljones> regardless of what was used last
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  delete the users .dmrc file
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> and perhaps link it to /dev/null ;)
[02:17] <cbilljones> dr_willis what if i make file read only, think that will work?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> No idea. I dont see why selecting the default session wouldent do what you want.
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> how many desktop sessions do you have anyway?
[02:18] <gueriLLaPunK> what program do you guys recommend for benchmarking a SSD?
[02:18] <cbilljones> dr_willis, selecting it does, but user doesnt get to select, or even know the password for that matter
[02:18] <cbilljones> dr_willis, there is 2 session, regular ubuntu, and POS(default)
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> cbilljones:  from what ive seen if the user logs out from his auto login session, he can then select a differnt one.  could be you dont have the POS session set up correctly.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> if the user selected POS then that should get entered into the .dmrc file and then be the users new default
[02:19] <cbilljones> dr_willis he can do that already, i dont want him logging out ever
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> should i point out that i have seen KOISK/POS focused disrtos that  may allready solve most of your issues. ;)
[02:20] <cbilljones> dr_williams he doesnt even have means to logout, no menus, no keyboard etc
[02:20] <mamece2> tomswartz07: i have jelly bean
[02:20] <mamece2> Anonynimity: doest work gmtp. I tried to connect and this message appears: cannot connect to raw objetct
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> seems theres been a person in here almost every week trying to build their own ubuntu KOISK setup.
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> wonder how many guides on it are at askubuntu.com
[02:21] <tomswartz07> mamece2: that's fine- its the same info with the mtp
[02:22] <tomswartz07> cbilljones: do you have more than one autologin user?
[02:22] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 no just the one, only one user account at all actually
[02:23] <juzpeng> Just got ubuntu install first time, with only a couple hickups.., but.
[02:23] <moxTreeDev> hi there
[02:23] <moxTreeDev> is there anyway to speed things up with ubuntu under VMware Unit?
[02:23] <tomswartz07> cbilljones: theres a nuclear option, add a pre-configured .dmrc file to /etc/skel and delete that user.
[02:24] <tomswartz07> or add a new one
[02:24] <AdBlocker_>  juzpeng: how are you liking it?
[02:24] <juzpeng> When I reboot after install, I am faced with grub.. grub works fine w/ loading "buntu" but won't load windows.  Only way to load win is go into bios and force boot it.  Any help?
[02:24] <tomswartz07> this way, the user will get the 'default' config and should always have the .dmrc file thats to be used.
[02:24] <tomswartz07> emphasis on *should&
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> juzpeng, Windows 8?
[02:25] <AdBlocker_> juzpeng: You should get the option to boot to windows and then from windows you get the boot  manager. Then you select to load into windows
[02:25] <AdBlocker_> juzpeng: Is that not what is happening?
[02:25] <AdBlocker_> boot to windows from grub*
[02:25] <SonikkuAmerica> juzpeng: Have you tried [ sudo update-grub ]?
[02:26] <juzpeng> Yes.  I like it- I have a mac too, but was getting frustrated by being locked down.. so I picked up a cheap notebook so I could load win.. so far it's cool.. kinda like how it was before in gnome better than this new unity
[02:26] <Anonynimity> Mike and Ike went to fetch a pail of water....
[02:26] <Anonynimity> oops
[02:26] <Anonynimity> lol wrong channel
[02:26] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 hmm that sounds scary, lol. Will that screw up any permissions ive setup?
[02:27] <tomswartz07> it'd be a lot safer to make a new user with the profile from /etc/skel, but not too much to screw up
[02:27] <tomswartz07> just check that the permissions are the same
[02:27] <juzpeng> Yes, win I first had trouble ..but then it install alongside win after turning off turned off fast & secure boot in bios.  It made it kinda large though is there any way to shrink the volume a bit?
[02:28] <AdBlocker_> juzpeng: You would have to format that partition, if you partitioned it. Then expand your windows partition from within Windows. Then reinstall Ubuntu with the remaining space.
[02:29] <tomswartz07> cbilljones: i fired up my other box here; try changing the lightdm.conf file to greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter
[02:29] <juzpeng> it get stuck after clicking win in grub
[02:29] <tomswartz07> that one autologins to i3
[02:30] <AdBlocker_> juzpeng: You messed up your master boot record
[02:30] <juzpeng> Can I go in windows, click computer, manage, and shrink the partion for linux
[02:30] <AdBlocker_> juzpeng: Please refer to here: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-fix-windows-8-mbr-master-boot-record/
[02:30] <juzpeng> ahh.. how do i fix it. lol
[02:30] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 ok rebooting now
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> juzpeng:  you dont resize linux partions from windows.
[02:31] <AdBlocker_> juzpeng: Also you cannot shrink your partition for linux from within windows. You can overwrite critical system files and mess up the partition itself. You can resize your partition of Ubuntu from within Ubuntu.
[02:32] <juzpeng> I shrinked my patrion in win that where it installed the ubuntu partion
[02:32] <juzpeng> Okay I won't do that then.
[02:32] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 no go, still last session :(
[02:32] <AdBlocker_> juzpeng: How did you install Ubuntu? From a disk or did you install it using Wubi?
[02:33] <tomswartz07> cbilljones: what shows in ls /var/lib/AccountsService/users
[02:33] <juzpeng> Hey, if I have to take this computer back is there a way to get rid of Ubuntu altogether and make it as though it looks as though its factory fresh without the win 8 dvd
[02:33] <Juslintek> Hi, I've installed ubuntu desktop on server, but cannot login to my account, only able to access guest account, and when I try to login to my account i'm being sent back to login screen. Anyone experienced this problem? :-)
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> juzpeng:  guys in #windows may know. Most of the time theres a windows -restore partion
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> juzpeng, W8 has a complete restore option.
[02:34] <AdBlocker_> juzpeng: Yes, you can extend your partition for windows over ubuntu. You should use your windows installation disk.
[02:34] <iKillCypher> is Ubuntu 13.10 out ?
[02:34] <juzpeng> I shrink my partion in win, the i stalled a program called pen drive linux, then booted it from my USB and installed it from there.
[02:34] <juzpeng> It didn't come with one.  It doesn't even have a optical disk!
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> juzpeng:  it may have  restore partition. or there may be ways to get a disk or ISO image file you can use from  a USB flash drive
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> !isitout iKillCypher
[02:35] <AdBlocker_> Dr_Willis: Does the ubuntu installation process give the option of formatting a partition/make a partition without installing ubuntu itself?
[02:35] <AdBlocker_> I can't remember
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> You can use gparted, or the disk tools from the live cd to do what you want
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> AdBlocker_, You have made a whole number of totally wrong claims helping this user, can you like mellow out.
[02:35] <juzpeng> will updating grub fix it so i can boot into windows without having to force boot it from bios?
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> juzpeng:  tried the boot-repair tool yet?
[02:36] <AdBlocker_> wilee-nilee: Unless you plan on trying to help him, no. I find it kind of funny that you are telling me to shut up when you yourself are not trying to help him.
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> grub should be able to boot the windows install.
[02:36] <tomswartz07> wow. such rage. so many angers
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> he has good help from Dr_Willis no need to help.
[02:37] <juzpeng> no was just checking if there was an easy fix somewhere. I don't think I did anything to break it.
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> except ive never used windows 8 ;)
[02:37] <Juslintek> to make things less League of Legends rage way, can you read my message? :-D
[02:37] <AdBlocker_> wilee-nilee: Thanks dad. I think I can try and help someone if I want.
[02:37] <juzpeng> I hate win 8, i would rather much use win xp
[02:38] <tomswartz07> so angsty teen. very AdBlocker_. wow.
[02:38] <AdBlocker_> tomswartz07: hm?
[02:38] <Anonynimity> My.Pen.Is.Erect
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> wubi will not run in W8, it has no mbr, the fix is not bootrec /fixmbr to start with
[02:38] <juzpeng> can you customize the new ubuntu like you could do with gnome?
[02:38] <juzpeng> i didn't use wubui
[02:38] <juzpeng> oh
[02:38] <AdBlocker_> wilee-nilee: Are you kidding me? I have installed Ubuntu using wubi on win8 a few times myself.
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> juzpeng:  depends on what you want to customze
[02:39] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 ls /var/lib/AccountsService/users reports: lightdm volante
[02:39] <tomswartz07> any dotfiles? ls -a /var/lib/AccountsService/users
[02:39] <randomedude> hi everyone I have a problem
[02:39] <juzpeng> Can you make it so the apps arent on the side and have it look like mint
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. last i heard. wubi dident work witn win8 - but wubi is a dead prject.
[02:39] <Juslintek> Hi, I've installed ubuntu desktop on server, but cannot login to my account, only able to access guest account, and when I try to login to my account i'm being sent back to login screen. Anyone experienced this problem? :-)
[02:40] <iKillCypher> is 13.10 out ?
[02:40] <Rena> !13.10
[02:40] <AdBlocker_> Dr_Willis: This is the first I am hearing of that being an issue. I have used it with win8 a few times myself.
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | iKillCypher couple of days
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> Juslintek:  check the .Xauthority file in the users home.
[02:40] <juzpeng> hey what was that grub update command again, or the fix to win MBR .. sorry got lost chatting.
[02:40] <iKillCypher> well if I use 13.04 will I be able to upgrade to 13.10 in the future ?
[02:40] <juzpeng> add
[02:40] <Anonynimity> yes iKillCypher
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> AdBlocker_:  i always advize against wubi in all forms. last  i heard. its dead.. and dident support win8. (i dont use it()
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> sudo update-grub juzpeng
[02:41] <Anonynimity> My.Pen.Is.Erect
[02:41] <tomswartz07> randomedude: whats the problem. just ask
, thanx :-)
[02:41] <AdBlocker_> Dr_Willis: Ah
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> a moment of slience for the demise of wubi... ;) or cheers of rejoiceing.
[02:42] <AdBlocker_> Haha
[02:42] <AdBlocker_> I thought it was a pretty interesting project.
[02:42] <juzpeng> so did ubuntu get rid of KDE ?!
[02:42] <Anonynimity> My.Pen.Is.Erect
[02:42] <Anonynimity> oops
[02:42] <Anonynimity> sorry
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> juzpeng:  kde is in the repos.. or use Kubuntu, or install Kubuntu-desktop package
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> juzpeng:  ubuntu  has not gotten rid of kde.
[02:43] <juzpeng> you can boot into either it wont wipe it out?
[02:43] <juzpeng> sudo update-grub >>> Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
[02:43] <juzpeng> Found Windows 8 (loader) on /dev/sda4
[02:43] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 i changed xsession in /var/lib/AccountsService/users/volante to my custom one and rebooted; lets see
[02:44] <randomedude> ok. I've been using 12.04 on my 60 GB SSD thinkpad x61 for more than a year. A couple weeks ago the system started hanging 10 minutes to an hour after restart or cold boot, without a miss. I took out the SSD and right now I'm using live ubuntu 10.04 from flash and the system hasn't hung for many hours. SSD system check shows everything green/okay.
[02:44] <juzpeng> I guess im going to restart and see it it's working now.
[02:44] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 bingo, i think thats what you were going to suggest, we have success
[02:45] <cbilljones> tomswartz07 so looks like ~home/.dmrc reads /var/lib/AccountsService/users and updates itself, thx for all the help
[02:45] <Lee-C> Hi all,  can anyone give me a tip for how i can keep track of my dynamic IP?  I have a netgear router and used to have a free DynamicDNS account which i let expire.  unfortunately my router only gives me the option to add a dynamicDNS account so not sure how to work around it...
[02:46] <kmyst> Lee-C: sure, just cobble together a script and shove it into a crontab
[02:46] <AdBlocker_> Dr_Willis: Did you hear about the universal kernel? It is some kind of hack for wine that let's .exe's run natively on linux.
[02:47] <AdBlocker_> I don't really know how to feel about it xD
[02:47] <juzpeng> Ok here what it said when trying to load win 8 loaded on dev4
[02:47] <juzpeng> error: cant find "drive map"... and error: something EFI
[02:48] <juzpeng> this sucks. lol
[02:48] <juzpeng> Anyone got any idea..
[02:49] <Anonynimity> efi... do you have efi enabled in your bios?
[02:49] <juzpeng> Do i have to fix win MBR or something
[02:49] <juzpeng> no I don't think so.
[02:49] <AdBlocker_> juzpeng: I gave you my advice. It was shut down though; try it at your own risk I guess.
[02:49] <AdBlocker_> I'm going back to studying.
[02:49] <Anonynimity> okay and is this a windows 8 factory disk or...?
[02:49] <Lee-C> kmyst: thank for that.  i had thought about that but not sure what the best way of doing it would be.  maybe send myself an email?  don't really like that though.  maybe somehow use crontab to automatically update an alternative dynamic dns account?...
[02:49] <juzpeng> nope
[02:50] <Anonynimity> alright juzpeng is this an actual installation?
[02:50] <juzpeng> I found this command
[02:50] <Gallomimia> Lee-C: that's what i was going to suggest. cron job send packet to machine outside your router, get your ip address, tells you what's where
[02:51] <juzpeng> sudo apt-get install boot-repair && sudo boot-repair
[02:51] <juzpeng> worth giving it a shot?
[02:52] <kmyst> Lee-C: here ya go: http://pastebin.com/6KrgQr5K
[02:52] <Lee-C> Gallomimia: Yeah,  i just don't know how exactly to go about it...  i've used crontab to send myself an email in the past but not sure if my abilities will stretch as far as to do what i want to do.
[02:53] <Gallomimia> i wouldn't email it. a simple ssh connection to a computer you control would be best i think
[02:53] <ItsMeLenny> does anybody have a how to (or a ppa) for SDL2 in 12.04 precise?
[02:53] <juzpeng> unable to loacate boot-repair
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> randomedude, Had you set up the ssd to run as such and how full is it?
[02:54] <kmyst> Lee-C: Gallomimia i'm lazy i just email it to myself :)
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> juzpeng, its in a ppa
[02:54] <juzpeng> ppa
[02:54] <juzpeng> damn i hate being a newb :(
[02:54] <kmyst> Lee-C: just edit the necessary bits for the logfile and email
[02:54] <SonikkuAmerica> !ppa
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> juzpeng, slow down, if you flail at this you may have some real problems. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:55] <juzpeng> synaptic package manager
[02:55] <randomedude> i don't remember how I setup SSD to run, it has a few GB's left, at one point in the past it was 0.1 GB free and it didn't crash, but now it's crashing. Although I have to be honest I didn't check the latest disk free space.
[02:55] <kmyst> Lee-C: i put it into my crontab thusly: 0 */3 * * * /home/username/bin/scriptname.sh
[02:56] <AdBlocker_> wilee-nilee: His problem isn't with Ubuntu though. This is a windows problem.
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> randomedude, I used this wiki to set mine up, you have it to full for sure. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> filling up any HD is not a good idea, even linux
[02:57] <Lee-C> kmyst: thanks for that, I will keep keep that one saved.  would prefer to try and get a dynamic account updated. but not sure how much luck i will have doing that.
[02:58] <randomedude> ok I don't remember this webpage. I have played with bios, ahci, acpi but not sure all of it in relation to SSD install. do you think reinstalling ubuntu acc to this webpage is the only option?
[02:59] <kmyst> Lee-C: i've seen some examples but i just elected to roll my own and seeing how my IP doesn't really change but once every few months regardless of the cable modem resyncing it "just works" for me
[03:00] <uPrism> Q: I'm having trouble getting my wifi working on my Sony Vaio laptop (ar242x ar542x atheros) - can anyone offer some help?
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> randomedude: for ssd set ide to ahci before installing ubuntu
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> randomedude, I never said you had to reinstall, just gave you a wiki I used, and suggested you have it to full.
[03:00] <juzpeng> boot repair said EFI detected is that good?
[03:00] <juzpeng> buggy-kernel detected. Do you want to activate [Backup and rename Windows EFI files]?
[03:01] <juzpeng> should I press Y, or N.  LOL this could really get ugly.
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> juzpeng, Make sure you keep the bootinfo summary url, the latest you have when you use this tool it is a key for getting help, the ubuntu forums is a good place for this there is a thread just for that app by the author of that tool.
[03:02] <randomedude> what should be the plan of action then? is there a way I can troubleshoot this? I have a sense the crashes started after my last update-manager update, although I might be completely off the mark here
[03:02] <juzpeng> i install boot repair in ubuntu.. not using a live cd, or USB is that fine?
[03:06] <kmyst> Lee-C: of course you could always extend the concept and instead of email any change to the IP have it SMS it or IM, etc.
[03:07] <Anonynimity> so, how much ram do I need to run Mac OS X 10.6 on an HP Probook?
[03:07] <Gallomimia> can someone tell me why i can no longer see my side-bar in ubuntu?
[03:07] <Gallomimia> Anonynimity: how much you got?
[03:07] <Gallomimia> i would say 2 gigs is going to be slow
[03:07] <Anonynimity> idk
[03:08] <Gallomimia> my mpb had 4 when i got it and it was a bit slow
[03:08] <Gallomimia> 2 gigs is a little light on ram for hungryOS like that
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, number of reasons, how about sharing the processes you did leading up to this.
[03:08] <Anonynimity> :(
[03:09] <BuzZBladE> like if you were messing with video drivers :I
[03:09] <Gallomimia> wilee-nilee: i've been wrestling with amd drivers, and the disappearing act began after first reboot upon removing generic installed drivers. i now have a working GPU with catalyst installed (i think
[03:09] <Gallomimia> but still no visible menu bar or "dock"
[03:09] <Gallomimia> (i come from the world of mac)
[03:09] <rannonga> have you tried resetting unity
[03:09] <Anonynimity> I ran a toshiba satellite L755-S5216 on OS X. It had about 3 GB of ram, and ran perfectly fine, until I was using the update feature in OS X
[03:09] <kmyst> Gallomimia: my old mbp is still chugging along with 10.6 and 1g of ram...no issues :)
[03:09] <Anonynimity> :((
[03:09] <Gallomimia> hah one gig. wow...
[03:10] <Gallomimia> alright, reset unity
[03:10] <rannonga> use crunchbang and it never gets over a gig lol
[03:10] <Gallomimia> what is this process and how do i do it?
[03:10] <kmyst> hey that's the max for it too...
[03:10]  * Gallomimia googles
[03:10] <Anonynimity> the thing was though, I had to use ubuntu to install mac os x onto a "Virtual Machine" although the "Virtual Machine" was actually an External Hard Drive.
[03:11] <Anonynimity> :)
[03:11] <randomedude> I have to mention about a month ago, I tinkered with proc/acpi/fan settings, and installed thinkfan ... but the fan never stops running when the system crashes, laptop get really hot but then sometimes system also crashes when laptop doesn't feel too hot. I'm just shooting in the dark here.
[03:11] <jmgk> hello
[03:11] <Anonynimity> what version are you using randomedude?
[03:11] <randomedude> 12.04 with latest updates
[03:11] <Anonynimity> heylo jmgk how are you this evening? and welcome to ubuntu
[03:11] <Gallomimia> am i to believe that the only way to reset my basic settings is with a software install?
[03:12] <Anonynimity> okay randomedude have you tried setting your fan speed?
[03:12] <jmgk> good
[03:12] <jmgk> thanks
[03:12] <kmyst> seems an extreme solution just to get a sidebar back...
[03:12] <Anonynimity> good to hear jmgk
[03:12] <randomedude> yes I tried to set it to "disengaged" which made the fan blasting at full speed, and the temp was down below 55 c in the reading, the system still crashed
[03:12] <jmgk> thanks
[03:13] <Anonynimity> randomedude, hang on a sec
[03:13] <randomedude> sure
[03:13] <Anonynimity> what kind of computer do you have randomedude?
[03:13] <Gallomimia> rannonga: care to suggest a method of "resetting unity"?
[03:13] <Gallomimia> the things i find on google seem nonsensical
[03:14] <Anonynimity> samsung, hp, toshiba, dell, sony, ...?
[03:14] <Anonynimity> asus?
[03:14] <rannonga> what did you find lol?
[03:14] <Anonynimity> @randomedude
[03:14] <Anonynimity> hang on a sec Gallomimia
[03:14] <randomedude> I have thinkpad x61, 2 GB ram ... like I mentioned earlier it has something to do with either the 60GB SSD or the latest ubuntu setup on it ... cz right now my SSD is out and I'm on a live ubuntu 10.04 and system hasn't crashed in 5-6 hours (I doubt it's gonna crash)
[03:15] <umarzuki> Gallomimia: restart lightdm service?
[03:15] <Anonynimity> what in unity are you trying to reset Gallomimia?
[03:15] <kmyst> Gallomimia: i had that happen on a box that had the proprietary nvidia drivers and booting into a xen kernel which make my bar disappear...somehow i don't think that is your problem though
[03:15] <rannonga> Anonynimity: his sidebar not working
[03:15] <Gallomimia> i don't know. it was suggested as a remedy to my disappearing sidebar and menu bar
[03:15] <bamphomet> my fav way of resetting unity is installing gnome or xfce
[03:15] <Gallomimia> uh.... nvidia drivers. i seem to remember seeing those and deselecting them
[03:15] <Anonynimity> did you hide it Gallomimia?
[03:15] <rannonga> lol
[03:16] <Gallomimia> that was awhile ago
[03:16] <Gallomimia> no
[03:16] <Anonynimity> ok... sec
[03:16] <kenMasters> hello
[03:16] <Anonynimity> what version of ubuntu are you using Gallomimia?
[03:16] <Anonynimity> hello kenMasters, welcome to ubuntu. How are you this evening?
[03:17] <rannonga> where's ryu
[03:17] <Anonynimity> randomedude: follow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133030/overheating-and-reboot-with-ubuntu-11-10-and-12-04-on-thinpad-t500 and/or
[03:17] <Anonynimity> http://askubuntu.com/questions/75579/very-hot-running-with-ubuntu
[03:18] <kmyst> is it both in unity 3d and the 2d one?
[03:18] <sweeesh> hello! I am testing 13.10 right now, and it seems that Youtube VEVO is not working?
[03:18] <Anonynimity> Gallomimia: try following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2017583
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | sweeesh
[03:20] <Gallomimia> Anonynimity: 13.04
[03:20] <Anonynimity> Gallomimia: Was that an upgrade or a fresh install?
[03:21] <Gallomimia> fresh. the system itself is fresh
[03:21] <Anonynimity> Gallomimia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285779/after-upgrading-to-13-04-unity-interface-is-not-showing
[03:21] <Gallomimia> the bios, drivers, all hardware, nothing has been in a stable state yet.
[03:23] <randomedude> Anonynimity: I guess I'll give it a try but I doubt the crash is temperature related
[03:23] <Anonynimity> it could be randomdude, I remember a while back my toshiba was overheating with ubuntu12.04
[03:24] <Anonynimity> it started freezing and crashing all to h3ll
[03:24] <randomedude> Anonynimity: ok I'll give it a try ... and if it doesn't work report back here?
[03:24] <Anonynimity> sure... I'll see if I can help you out a bit more.
[03:25] <randomedude> Anonynimity: ok thanks. And thanks to other users too for help. Have a good one!
[03:25] <Anonynimity> you too randomedude
[03:26] <Anonynimity> My.Pen.Is.Erect...
[03:26] <Anonynimity> you have left #My.Pen.Is.Erect
[03:28] <kmyst> !
[03:28] <Anonynimity> lol
[03:28] <Gallomimia> Anonynimity: thanks. the settings manager is very useful
[03:28] <Anonynimity> You're welcome Gallomimia.
[03:29] <sweeesh> anybody tried running GIMP with Ubuntu 13.10? The menu keeps acting up
[03:29] <Gallomimia> i think this means its time for games
[03:29] <sweeesh> it's a frustrating experience
[03:29] <jmgk> hmm
[03:30] <jmgk> sweeesh, why/
[03:30] <jmgk> I like GImp
[03:30] <jmgk> :p
[03:30] <Anonynimity> You're welcome Gallomimia. did that solution work for you?
[03:30] <Gallomimia> i did manage to get unity to show its face again yes
[03:30] <Gallomimia> menu and sidebar
[03:31] <Anonynimity> good to read
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> sweeesh, #ubuntu+1 is the 13.10 channel
[03:31] <sweeesh> jmgk: Gimp rocks. It's just that it does not seem to live with the Unity desktop of Ubuntu 13.10
[03:31] <Anonynimity> yum
[03:31] <Anonynimity> Ubuntu+1
[03:32] <sweeesh> ok
[03:32] <sweeesh> thanks
[03:32] <Anonynimity> mmmm yummmmmmhyyyyyyy data
[03:32] <Anonynimity> give me all of your data
[03:32] <Anonynimity> all of you!
[03:32] <Anonynimity> I want your data copied to my server, NOW
[03:32] <Gallomimia> alright, so i launched steam and for some reason a game launched immediately
[03:32] <Gallomimia> which is fine, i wanted to test it. i've now alt-tabbed out of that game and can't get back to it
[03:32] <Gallomimia> any suggestions?
[03:33] <Anonynimity> did you set a game up in steam to launch as soon as steam starts?
[03:33] <Gallomimia> no
[03:33] <Anonynimity> are you sure?
[03:33] <Gallomimia> it is the last game i was running that crashed when i last ran it
[03:33] <Gallomimia> and i think i asked it to launch again before steam was killed
[03:33] <Gallomimia> anyway
[03:33] <Anonynimity> that doesn't sound very comforting...
[03:33] <Gallomimia> game running, fullscreen working.... can't change back to that app.
[03:34] <Anonynimity> :|
[03:34] <Anonynimity> sec
[03:35] <Anonynimity> what version of ubuntu are you using Gallomimia?
[03:35] <Gallomimia> 13.04
[03:35] <BuzZBladE> glxinfo
[03:35] <Gallomimia> not installed.....
[03:36] <BuzZBladE> it just tells if your 3d opengl stuff is working
[03:36] <Gallomimia> it says a lot of stuff...
[03:37] <Gallomimia> direct rendering: yes
[03:37] <Gallomimia> that's the line i like to see right?
[03:37] <Gallomimia> alright i'm bored of waiting for this program to change back to foreground... killing
[03:38] <hewhomust> whats the opengl string
[03:38] <hewhomust> opengl
[03:38] <Anonynimity> Gallomimia: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/828937979234181573/
[03:38] <BuzZBladE>  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[03:39] <Anonynimity> give me your data
[03:39] <Anonynimity> now!
[03:39] <Gallomimia> hewhomust: uh where is that string located in the 3page wall of text i am seeing?
[03:39] <Gallomimia> openGL version string 4.2.12217
[03:39] <Gallomimia> compatibility profile context 12.104
[03:39] <hewhomust> glxinfo | grep render
[03:40] <kmyst> Anonynimity: my data's useless ;)
[03:40] <Gallomimia> it says AMD Radeon HD 7700 series
[03:40] <Gallomimia> with some other good stuff
[03:40] <hewhomust> thats good then
[03:40] <BuzZBladE> gallo, try     unity
[03:40] <Gallomimia> sounds like it's a good sine
[03:40] <Anonynimity> lol @kmyst
[03:40] <hewhomust> cosines better
[03:40] <Gallomimia> unity what?
[03:41] <BuzZBladE> see if terminal throws things around, just unity
[03:41] <Anonynimity> the next time you have secs, make sure you do an Arnold Schwarzenegger impression to your girlfriend... like he'd be grunting... girls like it, they think it's hottt
[03:41] <Anonynimity> Gallomimia: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/828937979234181573/
[03:41] <Gallomimia> about to read that one
[03:42] <Gallomimia> unity is fully supported by your hardware
[03:42] <donkey_> d
[03:42] <Gallomimia> starting to sound really optimistic about that
[03:43] <Gallomimia> now i reboot, then i read that thread
[03:43] <hewhomust> is this the same problem
[03:43] <hewhomust> your sidebars not working
[03:45] <Console> What's the best way to create a link between two directories? They both derive from /home
[03:45] <jrib> Console: what do you mean by "derive from"
[03:46] <Console> Both will be folders in /home
[03:46] <thamvmk> help
[03:46] <jrib> Console: use a symlink?
[03:46] <Console> sudo ln -s link link_root?
[03:46] <thamvmk> @ivan  blal
[03:47] <jrib> Console: ln -s TARGET NAME
[03:47] <thamvmk> how to perform find?
[03:47] <jrib> thamvmk: what do you want to find?
[03:48] <ivan_> find / -name
[03:48] <thamvmk> want to find all files with extension wmv
[03:49] <jrib> thamvmk: find where?
[03:49] <thamvmk> at my home directory /home/abc
[03:49] <ivan_> find / *.wmv
[03:49] <jrib> thamvmk: find /home/abc -name '*.wmv'
[03:49] <thamvmk> wrong ivan.
[03:49] <thamvmk> yes, thanks jrib.
[03:49] <thamvmk> :D
[03:49] <SecretFire> is there a way that i can permanently disable ipv6? I keep having to do sudo sysctl -p, is there a way around this so that i don't have to keep typing this command every time the system restarts?
[03:50] <Anonynimity> sec secretfire
[03:50] <SecretFire> Anonymity : what?
[03:50] <Anonynimity> SecretFire: What version of ubuntu are you on?
[03:50] <Anonynimity> or in?
[03:50] <SecretFire> Anonyimity : I am on kubuntu 13.04
[03:52] <Anonynimity> SecretFire: REF- http://www.noobslab.com/2012/05/disable-ipv6-if-your-internet-is.html
[03:52] <j4gu4r> alguien que me pueda ayudar aqui?
[03:53] <j4gu4r> antes que nada, buenas noches a todos desde mexico
[03:53] <SecretFire> Anonynimity : Ive done that, but i keep having to type sudo sysct -p
[03:53] <SecretFire> Anonynimity : sudo sysctl -p every time i restart
[03:53] <Anonynimity> okay, sec...
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> dirty way. put that command in rc.local ;)
[03:54] <Anonynimity> systemwide or firefox only SecretFire?
[03:55] <Anonynimity> have an idea SecretFire..
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> hmm. theres some ipv6 stuff in /etc/sysctrl.conf also
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> not sure if theres a setting for what you want. :)
[03:56] <Anonynimity> create a file called bad_list in /etc/modprobe.d and type alias net-pf-10 off
[03:57] <SecretFire> ok hold on
[03:57] <SecretFire> a txt file
[03:57] <SecretFire> ?
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> sort of hard to type in a binary file. ;)
[03:57] <Anonynimity> yes,
[03:57] <SecretFire> ok
[03:58] <Anonynimity> or you could make a file called blacklist-ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.d?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> echo 'alias net-pf-10 off' > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv6
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> might do it.  (double check that command)
[03:58] <SecretFire> it won't let me do it
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> need sudo rights. ;) of course.
[03:58] <Anonynimity> #echo
[03:58] <Anonynimity> ....
[03:59] <Anonynimity> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> sudo  echo 'alias net-pf-10 off' > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv6
[03:59] <SecretFire> Dr_Willis, do this in the new file?
[03:59] <SecretFire> Dr_Willis, i am using vi
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> oh wait - you cand do sudo and echo that way
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> one single line in the file with that  alias ......  line
[04:00] <Anonynimity> Give me all of your peanutbutter
[04:00] <ItsMeLenny> damn, my question got pushed out of the screen so i dont know if it got answered :P
[04:00] <SecretFire> do i need the quotes
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> quotes were for the echo command to know what to print
[04:01] <SecretFire> ok
[04:01] <Anonynimity> what was your question Lenny?
[04:01] <Paulus68_1> ItsMeLenny: then just ask the question again :)
[04:02] <ItsMeLenny> is there any simple way, or a ppa that is, getting SDL2 on 12.04 precise
[04:02] <SecretFire> ok i have the blacklist-ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.d
[04:02] <SecretFire> so when i restart i won't have to do that anymore?
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> in a FILE in /etc/modprobe.d/ you mean?
[04:02] <SecretFire> yea, thats what i mean
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> SecretFire:  try it and see.
[04:04] <L0S7M1ND> Hello 'ello
[04:04] <Anonynimity> I am the peanutbutter bandit
[04:04] <Anonynimity> give me all of your peanutbutter,
[04:04] <Anonynimity> NOW
[04:04] <SecretFire> peanut butter + chocolate is best
[04:05]  * Dr_Willis gives Anonynimity  a vegimite samwich.
[04:05] <Anonynimity> Peanutbutter is Healthier than chocolate.
[04:05] <L0S7M1ND> lol I got pb if you can fix networking issues.. lol
[04:05] <Paulus68_1> ItsMeLenny: perhaps this link is usefull to you http://forums.libsdl.org/viewtopic.php?t=8720&sid=aa806ec9d55e5cc03e635c387c1d9cf0
[04:05] <SecretFire> can't argue that, but the two combined are a godsend
[04:05]  * Anonynimity shoves the samwich down Dr_Willis' throat
[04:05] <Anonynimity> I said PeanutButter
[04:05] <Anonynimity> I hate vegemite.
[04:06] <MangaKaDenza> :O
[04:06] <Anonynimity> lol...
[04:06] <Anonynimity> I can fix networking issues,
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> You will eate your vegimite and like it young man!
[04:06] <ItsMeLenny> Paulus68_1, ah, i see, thanks
[04:06] <Paulus68_1> ItsMeLenny: your welcome
[04:06] <Anonynimity> depending upon the variant, distro, and what's wrong with your network
[04:06] <Anonynimity> I accidently removed the dns-masq-base once.
[04:06] <L0S7M1ND> lol I can google.  trying to find a fix. wound up here
[04:06] <Anonynimity> oops.
[04:07] <Anonynimity> I had to download every networking package there was for that distro, and install them by hand in terminal,
[04:08] <Anonynimity> but I fixed it.
[04:08] <Anonynimity> :)
[04:08]  * Paulus68_1 keeping google on my good side :)
[04:08] <Anonynimity> wanna play a game?
[04:08] <MangaKaDenza> no
[04:08]  * Anonynimity doesn't use google without a proxy.
[04:08] <L0S7M1ND> well I did a clean install ubuntu 13.10 beta2 64bit, all standard, and networking was fine in install but cant connect to anything ethernet or wifi after the install finished.
[04:08] <Paulus68_1> !13.10
[04:08] <Anonynimity> have you  made sure your network settings are good?
[04:09] <Anonynimity> and have you made sure your network is enabled?
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> this is a wired nic thats not working?
[04:09] <L0S7M1ND> if you got a link or some commands I can read about to try in terminal
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> !network
[04:09] <Anonynimity> have you tried using sudo ifconfig eth0 [or wlan0] up?
[04:09] <L0S7M1ND> its a fresh install, still new
[04:09] <root> Rubio
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> start with 'ifconfig'
[04:12] <Anonynimity> sudo network-manager
[04:12] <L0S7M1ND> thanks for the wifi link. but I was leaning more towards network-manager because it all works fine in the installer.  works on the installer, then reboot and nothing.  not even Ethernet.  ?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> network manager is used on the installer live desktop also - as far as i know
[04:13] <L0S7M1ND> I would really like to find the reason for this bug, so that it can be fixed before the aug 17th release.
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> boot live cd, check what modules are loaded also.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> then boot desktop where it dont work. and check what modules are loaded
[04:14] <Anonynimity-brb> find the networking packages, copy them to a new folder on your HDD, launch terminal, cd to the new folder you created, then use dpkg -i "packagename here.deb"
[04:14] <Anonynimity-brb> that's what I would do....
[04:14] <L0S7M1ND> ok, i'll see where that leads
[04:14] <Anonynimity-brb> sudo modprobe
[04:16] <L0S7M1ND> any idea who I should contact if this solves anything?  This an Asus ROG G74SX laptop (gaming) never had problems before, so I really would like to see it keep with flawless installs. :)
[04:17] <L0S7M1ND> autually, thanks for the help.  I'll slow down & try this for now & let you know how your help goes.  :)
[04:17] <jmgk> welcome L0S7M1ND
[04:23] <BetaSoul> Hey guys, long time no see. Just got a new box, and I'm having a few issues gettin 13.04 up and running. Most important, I can't seem to get the TP-LINK TL-WDN3800 wireless card to detect
[04:25] <HisaoNakai> Hi. I need to change some internet settings. In Windows 7 one would go Control Panel > Network and sharing center > Change adaptor settings > Local area connection > Properties > IPv4 > Properties. How does one do that in Ubuntu? CLI solution preferred.
[04:27] <BuzZBladE> its almost identical, system settings > network >
[04:28] <derrick> can i run a lightdm session instead of unity?
[04:28] <Guest94530> can i run a lightdm session instead of unity?
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> Guest94530, unity is a desktop lightdm is a window manager, what is the goal here?
[04:29] <Guest94530> wilee-nilee want to run a session without unity, no menus etc
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> Guest94530, How about another desktop?
[04:30] <Guest94530> wilee-nilee could do that, what would be the lightest way to go?
[04:30] <Anonynimity> there we go
[04:30] <Anonynimity> much better...
[04:31] <Anonynimity> lxde is a really lightweight desktop but it still has menus
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> jwm - is about the lightest 'window manager' but its not a full desktop
[04:31] <BuzZBladE> maybe install only xfce then you can remove its panels at least?
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> Guest94530, You can add sektops, however these are meta packages, and can be removed if you have the list of whats installed. You say"a" session, is this a singular run?
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> desktops*
[04:32] <HisaoNakai> BuzZBladE: I open 'network conenctions' > Wired connection 1 > edit > ipv4 tab. How do I change the DNS?
[04:32] <Guest94530> wilee-nilee this would be the default xsession want something very minamal
[04:33] <Anonynimity> I'm going to go because My.Pen.Is.Erect
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> Guest94530, I think the others might have a better idea what to do, my concern was you getting backed into a corner without knowing the fix.
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> a whole bunch of desktops to choose from though
[04:35] <BuzZBladE> HisaoNakai, to change the DNS you have to disable DHCP, as it will talk to your router and get that information
[04:35] <HisaoNakai> BuzZBladE: I open 'network conenctions' > Wired connection 1 > edit > ipv4 tab. How do I change the DNS?
[04:35] <HisaoNakai> Ah
[04:35] <HisaoNakai> BuzZBladE: So 'manual'?
[04:35] <BuzZBladE> automatic DHCP with address only may work, unless you want static local IP's
[04:35] <jmgk> hm
[04:37] <HisaoNakai> BuzZBladE: Okay. Do I write both the primary and secondary DNS in the DNS servers field?
[04:37] <Sheldoraaaa> do I have to use python to write a program for back up on ubuntu server?
[04:38] <BuzZBladE> i believe so, with a space seperating them,  if this is connecting to the internet Automatic DHCP should get this DNS from your cable modem
[04:38] <Sheldoraaaa> or is there anyway I can cheat ?
[04:38] <HisaoNakai> Sheldoraaaa: Depends on what you want it to do...bash is usually good enough.
[04:39] <Sheldoraaaa> so the idea is that if one of my computer down, the other one can automatically on
[04:40] <Gallomimia> that's really not funny anymore. alt+tab plus steam game = can't get back to the game ever... ?
[04:40] <Sheldoraaaa> within a very limited time without any information loses
[04:41] <HisaoNakai> BuzZBladE: I see...I want to override the default DNS. And is it necessary to fill in the Search Domains field?
[04:41] <BetaSoul> Gah, other machine crashed.
[04:41] <PryMaL> Gallomimia: do you run windowed mode?
[04:41] <Gallomimia> no
[04:42] <PryMaL> Gallomimia: try it, that's always done well by me!  -windowed in your advanced launch options.  :D
[04:42] <BuzZBladE> HisaoNakai, it is not necessary, unless you are wanting to cross local network domains
[04:43] <BetaSoul> Okay, two issues. First, ubtunu will only recongize one device per bus(had to move my keyboard to another bus), second, the TP-LINK TL-WDN3800 wireless card still isn't showing up.
[04:43] <Gallomimia> i'm also looking at figuring out how to get windows versions of some games attempting to run in wine... that's a kind of later on thing tho
[04:43] <BetaSoul> Also, frekaing laptop crashed, so sorry for the flashing in and out.
[04:43] <BuzZBladE> i will be happy the day all games can start in a borderless dragable windowed mode that can remain on top :I
[04:44] <Gallomimia> PryMaL: your theory has failed me miserably; the game is not showing at all now... no sound either
[04:45] <Gallomimia> tho, this does give some kind of clues as to what's going on here... wish i knew what they meant
[04:45] <BuzZBladE> sounds like a video driver issue
[04:45] <Gallomimia> those just got installed
[04:45] <BetaSoul> Hey, who was a talking to a minute ago, I didn't mean to bale, the machine I'm on crashed.
[04:48] <PryMaL> Gallomimia: that surprises me greatly, what video card are you running?
[04:48] <Gallomimia> asus radeon hd7790
[04:49] <PryMaL> Ahhh, my bad... Radeon cards are a bit funny with the Windowed mode.  My apologies, I should have asked that to start with.  :(
[04:49] <PryMaL> I'll go back to my corner and stop trying to help now.
[04:49] <Gallomimia> just got it up and running and the fact that it plays the game at all is cause for great celebration
[04:50] <Gallomimia> oh well
[04:50] <PryMaL> :\
[04:50]  * PryMaL fails
[04:51] <BetaSoul> Hey guys, how do I enable to atheros driver?
[04:53] <BuzZBladE> BetaSoul, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
[04:53] <BuzZBladE> may want to check if your chipset is supported?
[04:54] <BetaSoul> IT is.
[04:54] <BetaSoul> Right now the lshw has it listed as unclaimed.
[04:54] <BetaSoul> and it worked as fo 12.10
[04:57] <ian_> im having trouble sertting IRC auto connect to a channel. im using /channel add -auto #r/leagueoflegends
[04:59] <BetaSoul> try escaping the slash.
[05:00] <tigz4god> still says insufficuent paramters
[05:03] <tigz4god> anyone have ideas, trying to auto load a channel, /channel add -auto #r/league of legends       says not enough parameters
[05:03] <geirha> tigz4god: That would depend on which irc client you use
[05:04] <tigz4god> geirha: im using irssi
[05:05] <BuzZBladE> because its not enough paramenters
[05:05] <BuzZBladE> your not telling it what network, just the channel
[05:05] <geirha> Assuming the syntax is correct, there's no channel with that name on this network
[05:05] <lazors> (and spaces)
[05:05] <BuzZBladE>  /channel add -auto #leagueoflegends FREENODE
[05:06] <BuzZBladE> idk what network league is on though
[05:06] <tigz4god> irc.quakenet.org
[05:06] <tigz4god> (sorry, im SUPER new to IRC in general)
[05:07] <BuzZBladE>  /channel add -auto #leagueoflegends QuakeNet
[05:07] <BuzZBladE> quakenet is probably already in the network list
[05:07] <BuzZBladE> i dont remember quake using adobe air though :I
[05:10] <dennisxz> :D
[05:13] <winsoff> I am curious if anyone here lives by any woody bamboo.  PM me if you do.
[05:28] <bray90820> Would installing ubuntu on a flash drive to be able to plug it into any computer really work?
[05:28] <histo> bray90820: yes
[05:29] <bray90820> But every computer needs different drivers
[05:29] <histo> bray90820: linux != windows
[05:29] <linuxuz3r> depends on the driver
[05:29] <linuxuz3r> so no
[05:29] <linuxuz3r> if you have an old computer yes
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> bray90820:  not every computer needs differnt drivers.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> and most drivers are included by default on ubuntu
[05:30] <histo> bray90820: even if they need different drivers they are loaded as modules.
[05:30] <histo> linuxuz3r: nonsense
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> bray90820:  theres also  a 'live' install to flash drive. (like the cd works) then theres a 'full' install to flash drive.
[05:30] <bray90820> well i know on one of my computers i need to install wifi manually
[05:30] <bray90820> On my MacPro
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> it will totally depend on the esact chipset of the device. for legal and other reasons not all the firmwares canbe included.
[05:31] <bray90820> So some will work and some will not?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> if you made a live-usb with persistant save, or a full install. you could install the drivers onto the usb
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> then it should work.
[05:31] <histo> bray90820: You're not installing wifi drivers. You are just adding the firmware that is closed source that can't be freely distributed.
[05:32] <bray90820> So by default most computers will work but some will not?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> too bad there used to be a project that sort of  skirted the legal areas and had all the firmware and other junk on a unoffical extras-cd ;)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> havent seen that project mentioned in years
[05:32] <bray90820> the dvd install?
[05:33] <bray90820> Dr_Willis: were you talking about the dvd install
[05:34] <histo> bray90820: you will find more that will work than not.
[05:34] <histo> bray90820: also your definition of work is a little off. Even those that need firmware still work without a problem.
[05:34] <histo> bray90820: just wired only
[05:34] <bray90820> histo: alright
[05:34] <wachpwnski> how do you rsync a folder with the sub directories and everything?
[05:35] <bray90820> and maybe a few weird graphics drivers
[05:43] <penguinRaider> Hi I am trying to make a bridge connection on my machine . My network's dhcp server gives me an IP by default . I am trying to bridge it to an interface that I configured at /etc/network/interfaces http://paste.ubuntu.com/6239201/ .But whenever I try to connect it by ifup br100 the eth0 disconnects from the main network and both of the interface don't get an IP . I am new to network configuration Where am I doing it wrong ? Any help ?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> it pays to invest in a usb-wifi-dongle  that works out of the box. ;)
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> if for no other reason - then to install the drivers for the built in wifi in an easy way
[05:50] <lkthomas> OH NO, all of sudden all my youtube full screen feature not work
[05:51] <lkthomas> it become windowed screen with same size
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> dual monitors?
[05:51] <lkthomas> yep
[05:51] <lkthomas> it happen all of sudden
[05:51] <lkthomas> which used to work before
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> odd that it used to work befor.  ;)   the webupd8, or omgubuntu blog sites mention some fix's for getting it to always work and stay fullscreened if you click on the other monitor.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> i often have hulu, or crunchyroll on my 2nd moniotr (tv) and  have had to fight with the fullscreen flash being brain dead in the past
[05:53] <grendal-prime> is there a command i can use to shutdown all of the vms?
[05:53] <lkthomas> damn,
[05:53] <grendal-prime> virsh command that is.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> lkthomas:  i recall some firefox extensions that could tweak flash a bit.. or in teh guides they mention some hex editor hack to change a single byte in teh flash binaries to disable the annoyance
[05:57] <g0ran> hi guys, I am trying to setup openvpn server on my ubuntu box but I am not sure how to add bridge interface. I have only one network interface, that is eth0 which uses static ip addres. the said interface has public ip address (accessible directly via internet) and I am not sure if I need to set ip address of the bridge interface  to this public one?
[05:58] <BuzZBladE> "i have only one network interface"
[05:59] <histo> !details | BuzZBladE
[06:00] <lkthomas> Dr_Willis: I am going to html5 instead
[06:00] <lkthomas> flash just a shit
[06:00] <g0ran> yes BuzZBladE, what do you find unclear about that?
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> lkthomas:  i really rarely have issues with flash.  I just use it for Hulu and crunchyroll.com an crackle.com mainly
[06:01] <richat> !info keyrings
[06:01] <richat> !info keyring
[06:01] <RedRyder> Well, I went and followed the steps and I seem to have it all installed. I think I even created my databases. However, I can't seem to access them and my opensim program can't seem to access the databases either. Any new suggestions???
[06:01] <lkthomas> I know
[06:01] <lkthomas> unsure why it happen all of sudden
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> lkthomas:  flash package might have been updated
[06:01] <lkthomas> Dr_Willis: just checked, not really
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> im on a raspberry pi at the moment. ;) No Flash for Arm Systems. ;)
[06:03] <kongthap> is there any good alternative to terminal which offers multiple tab interface ???
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> theres dozens of terminal-eumlator apps in the repos
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Most offer tab's
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use Terminator - it has a large feature set
[06:04] <richat> hello there
[06:04] <BuzZBladE> guake is pretty popular too
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> I dont really use the pop-down type terminals.
[06:05] <Naeblis> Hello. gparted (from live USB) shows my entire HDD as "unallocated". Does this mean I'll have to re-partition everything (and thus lose all the data) ?
[06:05] <richat> possible if i can see my password that store on chrome?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Naeblis:  what does 'sudo fdisk -l' say about it?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Naeblis:  its not a LVM or part of a raid setup was it?
[06:06] <BuzZBladE> Naeblis, if your booted in and looking at gparted, then something is allocated, you cant use an os thats in unallocated space
[06:06] <Naeblis> welp, "/dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table"
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Its possible the HD has died.. it would be weird for it to suddendly become unallocated.
[06:07] <Naeblis> this hdd was working fine a couple months back, with Win7 and Ubuntu dual boot
[06:07] <kongthap> Dr_Willis: i've installed Terminator, i don't know how to open new tab ???
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> kongthap:  check the right click menu and its docs>
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> lxterminal also has tabs (thats what im using now on my raspberry pi)
[06:08] <kongthap> i got it, thanks :)
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> terminator's ability to split windows is handy in some cases
[06:08] <Naeblis> Dr_Willis: yeah that's what I fear. I can see it in BIOS, but it's not being booted.
[06:09] <Naeblis> any way to check it for sure?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Naeblis:  hard drives are the weakest link in hardware.
[06:09] <histo> Naeblis: did you remove the partition table?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Its possible it may be dead, and might come back to life after it runs a bit.. or gets shookup . or you say the magic words.
[06:09] <histo> !testdisk | Naeblis
[06:10] <Naeblis> histo: I didn't do anything myself
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Naeblis:  and its not using any weird encryption, or other fancy things
[06:10] <Naeblis> nope
[06:10] <histo> Naeblis: scan it with testdisk see if there are any partitions there. Also make sure that sda is your actual hdd and not usb or something goofy
[06:10] <Naeblis> histo: nah, 1TB, so fairly sure it's the hdd
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> yea. :) seen some bios's ages ago that would sort of switch around hard drives if you booted from USB
[06:11] <histo> Naeblis: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[06:11] <Naeblis> ty
[06:13] <RedRyder> Sorry I wasn't more specific. I went to the website suggested by ubottu the last time I was here. I am still having problems with getting mysql and opensim to communicate. I know I must be doing something wrong but I follow the steps. Any ideas?
[06:15] <histo> RedRyder: have you asked opensim people for help?
[06:16] <RedRyder> yes and also the metropolis grid people
[06:17] <BuzZBladE> red, did you create the mysql database for it?
[06:18] <RedRyder> As far as I know I did. But I'm not sure what I'm doing in linux. I had it all set up under win8.
[06:20] <techyan> Hi Guys
[06:20] <techyan> Its regarding Ubuntu installation failure
[06:21] <techyan> I tried to install Ubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 12.10 in a P4 PC
[06:21] <histo> !pae | techyan
[06:21] <histo> techyan: what was the failure?
[06:22] <techyan> Ubuntu 12.10 installation is not even starting in my PC
[06:22] <histo> techyan: can you describe not starting?  Does anything show up on the screen?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> booting from dvd? or usb flash or how..
[06:22] <techyan> However 12.04 installation was successfull , but I am getting internal errors while opening application
[06:23] <techyan> And it is not restarting.
[06:23] <techyan> Some times mouse and keyboard  is not detecting
[06:23] <histo> techyan: pick one problem and describe it in detail
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> sounds like there maybe deeper hardware issues. or a bad install image/burn
[06:25] <techyan> The error message was "could not write bytes: brocken pipes" ?
 Is there any updated hardware support machine desktop list. Just like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesDesktopsDell
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> techyan:  you tried running the memtest from the live cd/dvd for a while as a test to verify theres no ram issues?
[06:28] <techyan> The RAM is working fine
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> and how long did you let memtest run?
[06:29] <techyan> Pass 1
[06:29] <techyan> Pas 1 was success
[06:30] <techyan> Arround 30min
[06:30] <BuzZBladE> the broken pipes bit could be referring to his video drivers, its not starting 3d unity
[06:31] <BuzZBladE> techyan, you say its a p4, i'm assuming its an onboard intel video chipset?
[06:31] <techyan> Yes
[06:32] <BuzZBladE> that should be vga compatable...
[06:32] <techyan> For your information, because of this error I installed Ubuntu 12.04 server in the same PC
[06:33] <techyan> And it was working fine ( CLI mode). Later I installed Ubuntu-Desktop in 12.04 server .
[06:33] <techyan> So lot of internal issues occured.
[06:33] <techyan> Like application crashed, system is not successfully restarting etc
[06:33] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> who is familer with scanmem
[06:34] <BuzZBladE> techyan, hm, so you installed 12.04 server, then desktop over top of it?
[06:34] <techyan> I installed the server version because desktop version always crashing
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> desktop and server versions should be pratically identical. except for the desktop bits.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> if you boot to text mode, you dont have any crashing of the cli apps?
[06:35] <techyan> In CLI mode the server version was fine. I installed ubuntu-desktop over it . Because I have to work on some design softwares.
[06:35] <techyan> So again system crashed.
[06:36] <techyan> In text mode everything works
[06:36] <BuzZBladE> in the server version you could have just installed the desktop packages
[06:36] <techyan> but in gui its crashing. some times manual restart required.
[06:36] <techyan> Some times it wont restart.
[06:37] <BuzZBladE> how old is this hard drive?
[06:37] <foo357> Hello, I have a ubuntu 12.04 machine with some packages installed. I recently noticed that there was a PPA that offered these packages (but newer versions and so, of course). How should I go from using the official ubuntu packages to the ppa ones? What would happen if I added this ppa, would APT find out that some packages can be updated or something?
[06:37] <histo> techyan: do you have a swap partition?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> foo357:  thats how it works.. enable ppa. apt-get update, upgrade should pull them in.
[06:38] <lazors> !ppa | foo357
[06:38] <foo357> Dr_Willis: oh, great. thanks for the clarification.
[06:40] <techyan> I installed Ubuntu by guided partitioning
[06:44] <techyan> Is there anyway I can get a details of hardware supported by Ubuntu-Desktop
[06:44] <BuzZBladE> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[06:45] <BuzZBladE> it doesnt list a keyboard, but it helps to have one
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> techyan: more hardware works than is listed.
[06:48] <BuzZBladE> the only thing i might worry about when he says p4 is does he have at least 512mb of ram?
[06:48] <techyan> @Wilee-nilee -  OK. I should give some kind of explanation why it is not installing in my hardware >
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> !hcl
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> and of course hardware that is 'ubuntu certified' can still have issues
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> techyan:  best to keep the chat in the channel. Most of us in here ignore pm's
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> the only real hardware the desktop would be using would be the video chipset/driver that would be differnt then the server.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> everything else is pratically the same btween server and desktop editions these days.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> of course a Pent4 - is getting towards the low end of what could be expected to work. You may want to try Lubuntu or xubuntu on that old of hardware
[06:56] <techyan> Dr_Willis : OK.
[06:57] <lazors> ls
[06:57] <techyan> Dr_Willis    : In Lubuntu I am working on the desktop,right
[06:58] <dr0p> hello, is there an way to enable mouse  natural scroll ? (not touchpad)
[06:58] <techyan> So there may be a chance that the same issue occurs
[06:58] <techyan> Dr_Willis: Is there any system compatibility checker for ubuntu ?
[07:00] <apapaia> Hi all
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> techyan:  cant say ive ever noticed one.. then again. ive given away pc's with specs greater then a P4 :)
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> normally the only issues hardware wise would be the wireless cards. and the video chipset.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> unless the system is so old - its not using a PAE enabled cpu.
[07:02] <gordonjcp> early early P4 might not be PAE and might not be 32-bit
[07:02] <gordonjcp> s/32/64/
[07:03] <gordonjcp> techyan: simplest thing is to download an image and bung it on a USB stick
[07:04] <hitsujiTMO> techyan: what cpu are you trying to run on>
[07:04] <hitsujiTMO> ?
[07:05] <techyan> hitsujiTMO: P4
[07:06] <hitsujiTMO> techyan: how much ram?
[07:07] <techyan> Its Dell Optiplex Gx620
[07:07] <techyan> hitsujiTMO: 2GB RAM DD2
[07:07] <techyan> hitsujiTMO: sorry , 2GB DDR2
[07:08] <techyan> gordonjcp: I am installing Ubuntu using universal USB installer. I boot from USB and installed it on hardware
[07:10] <hitsujiTMO> techyan: what release are you installing? 12.04 ?
[07:11] <techyan> Dr_Willis:  so you suggest to install Lubuntu ?
[07:11] <Proctologist> Hello, anyone know how to fix the issue where after my xubuntu 13.04 computer goes to sleep it wakes up with a black screen only allowing me to use the cursor and see a blinking line at the top of the screen?
[07:11] <techyan> hitsujiTMO: 12.04 and 12.10
[07:11] <DuncanNZ> Proctologist: your laptop make and model might be a good start
[07:12] <DuncanNZ> computer*
[07:12] <hitsujiTMO> techyan: unity is going to have a hard time running on your graphics chipset: you should defo use lubuntu or xubuntu 12.04
[07:14] <techyan> hitsujiTMO: Issues happened while working on gui
[07:14] <techyan> in CLI it is working
[07:15] <techyan> Anyway let me try Lubuntu or Xubuntu ?
[07:16] <techyan> hitsujiTMO: Let me try Lubuntu
[07:16] <techyan> hitsujiTMO, Dr_Willis, histo thank you
[07:19] <neil> Hi .. I am trying to get the tftp configured for a libvirt but it isn't working and I can't find out why :-( ... the command I am using and the xml is on http://paste.ubuntu.com/6239442/ ... what am I doing wrong?
[07:19] <cjmac> Hi, I'm having a bit of trouble with open-iscsi on Precise (12.04). Anyone here got any experience with it?
[07:19] <Proctologist> DuncanNZ: macbook pro retina 13 inch
[07:20] <hitsujiTMO> !details | cjmac
[07:23] <cjmac> Hi, I'm having a bit of trouble with open-iscsi on Precise (12.04). Specifically, I'm trying to set up multi-pathing and for some reason, it's trying to route traffic to my target via all my iscsi ifaces, not just the ones that can actually route to it. I can manually correct this by removing the bindings, but I'd like to stop it binding the target to the other ifaces altogether.
[07:23] <cjmac> That better?
[07:23] <DuncanNZ> Proctologist: If you go to settings and click "Device Drivers", do you get anything there?
[07:23] <hitsujiTMO> yes, you're more likely to get help if you provide the details
[07:24] <DuncanNZ> it might be worded differently, "proprietary drivers" or "hardware drivers"
[07:26] <Proctologist> I'll have a look, it is still at the black screen so I'll have to restart it
[07:26] <DuncanNZ> wait one second then
[07:26] <DuncanNZ> first check if you can press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[07:26] <DuncanNZ> and if it does anything when you press Ctrl+Alt+F1 or not, that could be useful information
[07:26] <Proctologist> I tried that before and nothing popped up
[07:26] <DuncanNZ> ok
[07:27] <DuncanNZ> just reboot then
[07:27] <freelance> hello
[07:28] <freelance> 我是个新人
[07:28] <freelance> 第一次来这儿
[07:28] <nhaz> hi
[07:28] <Oddity> hi
[07:28] <nhaz> can ask a question?
[07:28] <Oddity> Yes
[07:29] <DuncanNZ> !cn | freelance
[07:29] <nhaz> its about network problem
[07:29] <bekks> nhaz: ask your question.
[07:29] <DuncanNZ> !ask | nhaz
[07:31] <nhaz> i set installed linux lite my desktop at home, but when i bring bing it to my friends house i cannot connectit on his network
[07:31] <gordonjcp> techyan: and did it work?
[07:31] <nhaz> i try manual config conected but nointernet.
[07:33] <cjmac> neil: I'm not entirely familiar with what the issue with dnsmasq is, but can I point out that part of the command line says "--conf-file=" with no file specified? exit code 2 often means things like missing / malformed arguments
[07:34] <Proctologist> I looked through the Additional Drivers section of my Ubuntu Software Updater and the only propriety driver in use is the Broadcom wireless driver
[07:35] <hitsujiTMO> nhas try in ##linux   this is for #ubuntu support
[07:35] <DuncanNZ> ok so nothing relating to graphics drivers, Proctologist, and that was my only suggestion sorry
[07:35] <hitsujiTMO> nhaz try in ##linux   this is for #ubuntu support
[07:35] <Proctologist> I wasn't sure if it was supposed to happen
[07:36] <Proctologist> and there was a shortcut to get out of it
[07:36] <nhaz> ok  thanks
[07:36] <DuncanNZ> maybe anyone else can help with Proctologist's problem, black screen after suspend on mac book pro
[07:36] <Proctologist> I'll just make sure it doesn't go to sleep. I was running some tests in the background but I'll just turn the screen off
[07:37] <cjmac> neil: on second thoughts, I just gave you a red herring.Apparently that's a quite legal empty argument. Have you had a look at this? http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Virtual_network_%27default%27_has_not_been_started
[07:39] <Proctologist> DuncanNZ my googling skills may have come to fruition, it seems that some SSD users have been having a similar problem, I'll inform you with results
[07:39] <DuncanNZ> ok good luck
[07:39] <azar> how to enable fingerd in ubuntu?
[07:40] <Revan> o/
[07:42] <dn4> what happened to all the mirrors ubuntu used to have
[07:42] <DJones> dn4: For iso's? I use http://mirror.umd.edu/ubuntu-iso/ if I need to
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> dn4, There a bunch in software sources.
[07:44] <hitsujiTMO> dn4: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[07:45] <dn4> thanks it was taht launchpad site I needed
[07:46] <dn4> didn't think it was the ubuntu's
[07:47] <NewToThis> My wireless works but ubuntu doesnt recognize it when i type in airmon-ng start wlan0
[07:55] <Proctologist> DuncanNZ you there?
[07:55] <DuncanNZ> yes
[07:55] <Proctologist> I followed this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/ubuntu-lightdm-black-screen-when-using.html
[07:55] <Proctologist> Added sleep 5 onto /etc/init/lightdm.conf
[07:56] <Proctologist> Above exec lightdm
[07:56] <Proctologist> The first try seems to have worked, I'll try again
[07:56] <edemmm> quit
[07:56] <edemmm> exit
[07:56] <edemmm> \quit
[07:56] <Proctologist> Just letting you know in case you or anyone else ever has the same problem
[07:57] <DuncanNZ> ok that's good that it seems fixed
[07:57] <DuncanNZ> :)
[07:57] <edemmm> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA let me quit :)))
[07:57] <hitsujiTMO> /quit edemm
[07:57] <edemmm> thx
[08:07] <kongthap> after running fsck command i got lost+found folder, is it safe to delete the folder???
[08:08] <sasmit87> how can I update my firefox in ubuntu 11.10
[08:08] <hewhomust> sasmit87: what version do you have?
[08:08] <reisio> sasmit87: update your ubuntu
[08:09] <sasmit87> I have firefox 10.0
[08:09] <sasmit87> i want 24.0
[08:09] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | sasmit87
[08:09] <Proctologist> Upon trying again I seemed to have fixed it DuncanNZ
[08:09] <hewhomust> yeah reisio's answer is probably the best
[08:09] <hitsujiTMO> 11.10 id eol sasmit87
[08:10] <ripthejacker> I need to install a package smlnj, It's present in packages.ubuntu.com for quantal , but apt-cache seach doesn't return any hit.
[08:10] <ripthejacker> Please help
[08:11] <rethus> when comes the next LTS?
[08:11] <auronandace> rethus: 14.04
[08:11] <reisio> rethus: 10th month
[08:11] <ripthejacker> When I did apt-get update , some repositories were ignored,
[08:11] <reisio> oh yeah, 14
[08:11] <ripthejacker> like backports main
[08:11] <auronandace> rethus: no, lts are released in april (4th month)
[08:12] <rethus> reisio: great, was thinking about to install an STS, but 4 Month are ok to wait.
[08:12] <reisio> rethus: well, six
[08:12] <reisio> but waiting is silly
[08:12] <reisio> you can update to it when it comes out
[08:12] <rethus> what do you mean?
[08:13] <reisio> good question
[08:13] <rethus> :)
[08:14] <rethus> But for April, 13.04 is released ?!
[08:14] <hitsujiTMO> ripthejacker: smlnj is in universe: not showing for me either , may be a bug
[08:14] <rethus> see it on a wiki in ubuntuusers.de
[08:14] <auronandace> rethus: lts releases are every 2 years
[08:15] <rethus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[08:15] <auronandace> rethus: 13.04 is not an lts
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> ripthejacker: if you need to install it you can download the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[08:15] <rethus> So, the LTS in an own branch?
[08:16] <ripthejacker> hitsujiTMO: How do I know if i have enabled universe?
[08:16] <rethus> but created out of 13.04 STS?
[08:16] <ripthejacker> In the repositories, I can see updates universe and backports universe , but no main universe
[08:17] <hitsujiTMO> ripthejacker: it will not be commented out in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:17] <auronandace> rethus: each release is a separate branch, they make lts releases so that you can upgrade directly between consecutive lts releases
[08:18] <hewhomust> what does dist-upgrade do?
[08:18] <auronandace> rethus: with normal releases you can only upgrade to the one next in line
[08:18] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | hewhomust
[08:18] <rethus> is visible, which features of the STS versions are included?
[08:19] <hewhomust> !upgrade
[08:19] <ripthejacker> hitsujiTMO: well it's enabled
[08:19] <ripthejacker> hitsujiTMO: maybe I'll install using the deb package
[08:19] <ripthejacker> thanks
[08:19] <ripthejacker> :)
[08:20] <hitsujiTMO> ripthejacker: np, as i said i cant find it either so more than likely its a bug
[08:21] <ripthejacker> I thought apt is a thoroughly tested program
[08:21] <gm10_> siema
[08:21] <gm10> Siemanko xd
[08:21] <mister> elo
[08:21] <ripthejacker> hitsujiTMO: maybe I'll try changing the server.
[08:21] <mister> twja stara sik N pociongi
[08:21] <gm10> CHYBA TY
[08:21] <gm10_> twoja
[08:22] <gm10> Czemu blondynka przebiera sie za akumulator
[08:22] <gm10_> co ma cztery nogi  i jedno oko?
[08:22] <mister> idzie kot i spoawa gunwa
[08:22] <gm10_> jo jest g łupia
[08:22] <hewhomust> !kernel
[08:22] <mister> a bo ja wiem
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, This website will build you a sources list to compare or use. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[08:22] <hitsujiTMO> !op gm10 gm10_ mister
[08:22] <somsip> !pl | mister gm10_
[08:22] <DJones> gm10_: Please note that this a support channel, not a chat channel
[08:23] <hewhomust> !Mainline
[08:23] <gm10> Idzie pies i zdech iksde
[08:23] <mister> idzie pies i sie ...
[08:23] <gm10_> kompa ł
[08:23] <gm10> Pan na geografi pyta sie jasia gdzie jest KUba ? Jasiu mowi ze w domu AHahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha / PAWEL
[08:23] <gm10_> poweł ogat żulu
[08:24] <mister> hehehhe
[08:24] <gm10> Siemanko
[08:24] <gm10> NIE KICKAJ MNIE
[08:24] <gm10> Bo ci zjem pizze
[08:25] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: thanks
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[08:25] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: the repositories are enabled, I can see other packages from that repo, but the particular one I want , is missing
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, you mentioned main missing, should be there.
[08:28] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: yeah dunno what was the problem, I changed the server to main and I got the package
[08:29] <ripthejacker> hitsujiTMO: hey changing the server worked for me :)
[08:30] <hitsujiTMO> ripthejacker: cool, your country repo must not be synced correctly (and my country repo for that matter)
[08:30] <ripthejacker> I was using Indian server
[08:43] <Neo2013> version
[08:43] <dn4> I am trying to boot up ubuntu on a macbook pro and it always has jacked up graphics with with the latest releases of 13.04 and 12.04.3
[08:44] <dn4> any ideas why graphics would be jacked up and then the wireless fails at a certain point I think and the install just stops
[08:47] <Neo2013> #dn4 try to donwload it again
[08:48] <dn4> Neo2013: hmmm any recommended ways to download it?
[08:49] <Neo2013> #dn4 to be clear you are trying to boot from your macbook with a live cd?
[08:50] <Neo2013> and than it jamms ?
[08:50] <nabn>  hi. how do i enable alt-tab shortcut to switch appilcations? I am using gnome classic on ubuntu 13.04(64bit). I tried using ccsm, but  the version i downloaded does not have an option where i can enable this. The best it allows me to do is activate 'alt-w' to enable window picker.
[08:52] <dn4> Neo2013: I am using a usb thumb stick
[08:52] <dn4> maybe I am messing up some where
[08:52] <dn4> should my file format on the usb stick be fat32?
[08:53] <Neo2013> no
[08:53] <Neo2013> I always use NTFS
[08:53] <Neo2013> because you can put biger files on it
[08:54] <dn4> hmmm
[08:54] <Neo2013> Try to format it as NTFS and make a new startup file
[08:54] <dn4> maybe I Should just buy a dvd and use that instead of a usb
[08:54] <dn4> that normally always works
[08:54] <Neo2013> also possible
[08:55] <Neo2013> I use vmware workstation if I want to try  a new OS
[08:55] <Neo2013> but I dont konw if that is working on your mac ;)
[08:56] <meyou> in a netstat -l, what does [::]:1234
[08:57] <meyou> indicate
[08:57] <cjmac> meyou: the :1234 is the port, and [::] is the ipv6 equivalent of 0.0.0.0, basically
[08:58] <meyou> so if that was the only entry with port 1234
[08:58] <meyou> you could conclude ipv4 addresses aren't listening on 1234?
[08:59] <cjmac> meyou: I .....believe so, yes.
[08:59] <meyou> i was pretty sure because i see other *:<port> entries for stuff that is listening on this thing's ip4 address
[08:59] <meyou> stupid service is binding wrong i guess
[09:06] <czardoz> how to manually set DNS in Ubuntu? I don't have GUI, and there seems to be three ways, none of which work
[09:06] <czardoz> 1.) edit /etc/resolv.conf 2.) edit /etc/networking/interfaces 3.) edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[09:07] <czardoz> has anyone tried any of these before?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> czardoz: you can add it in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> czardoz: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head > /dev/null
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> czardoz: for example
[09:11] <sasmit87> when I tried this command sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> czardoz: the head file adds the 'dont modify this file' text, if it just happens to include DNS server information, that's ok :)
[09:12] <sasmit87> ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded
[09:12] <sasmit87> i got this error
[09:12] <czardoz> ActionParsnip: ok, just trying that out =)
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> sasmit87: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> czardoz: its a hack, but I find it waaaay easier
[09:13] <sasmit87> output is Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[09:13] <czardoz> ActionParsnip: the DNS support in Ubuntu is surprisingly poor. I should probably raise a bug about this.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> sasmit87: Oneiric is no longer supported in any way
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> czardoz: you can set it in wicd-curses super easy too
[09:13] <sasmit87> what ??
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> sasmit87: its dead, its like asking Microsoft for support for Windows 98
[09:13] <sasmit87> I am new to ubuntu so didn't get u\
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> sasmit87: the community, and that PPA do not support Oneiric
[09:14] <sasmit87> so how to fix that
[09:15] <czardoz> ActionParsnip: installing WICD will no doubt again lead to some conflicts with network-manager
[09:15] <czardoz> I'd rather not try that
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> sasmit87: upgrade to Precise (Ubuntu 12.04) which is LTS and supported til April 2017
[09:16] <sasmit87> how do I upgrade
[09:16] <sasmit87> ?
[09:16] <sasmit87> sorry I am very new to that
[09:16] <sasmit87> any command
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> sasmit87: not new to finding stuff out online...right?
[09:16] <sasmit87> yeah
[09:17] <Hermaphrodite> sasmit87: looks like an python error
[09:17] <Hermaphrodite> Update your python libs
[09:17] <Rory> sasmit87: The Update Manager should show that a new distribution release (12.04 LTS) is available
[09:18] <sasmit87> let me try that too\
[09:18] <sasmit87> when I open My ubuntu update manager
[09:18] <sasmit87> its showing
[09:18] <sasmit87> Your Ubuntu release is not supported anymore
[09:19] <sasmit87> You will not get any further security fixes or critical updates. Please upgrade to a later version of Ubuntu Linux.
[09:19] <Rory> sam113101: Yes that is correct. There should be a button to upgrade to 12.04
[09:20] <wilee-nilee> !eol upgrade | sasmit87
[09:20] <Rory> sam113101: If you can't find the option, run the command: "sudo do-release-upgrade" in the terminal
[09:20] <wilee-nilee> !eol | sasmit87 you have to follow this guide
[09:20] <nomad_fr> hi
[09:21] <nomad_fr> I'm trying to install via preseed
[09:21] <wilee-nilee> sasmit87, There is a sources.list change for a eol upgrade.
[09:21] <sasmit87> what is that again
[09:21] <sasmit87> ?
[09:21] <Rory> sasmit87: Does that command give an error?
[09:21] <nomad_fr> It work perfectly over ethernet, I've made a 'special' usb boot stick that permit to load my preseed form network
[09:21] <sasmit87> rory: which command
[09:22] <Rory> sam113101: If you can't find the option, run the command: "sudo do-release-upgrade" in the terminal
[09:22] <Rory> sasmit87: ^
[09:22] <Rory> sorry sam113101 :(
[09:22] <nomad_fr> but I can't do the same with wifi
[09:22] <Rory> sasmit87: Failing that, you can download a supported version from http://ubuntu.com/downloads/desktop and install it the same way you installed 11.10
[09:23] <Rory> sasmit87: By burning to a DVD, or a USb flash drive, booting from it, and following the instructions
[09:23] <sasmit87> rory: its happening I guess
[09:23] <Rory> sasmit87: OK let me know if it stops with an error
[09:23] <nomad_fr> tis parameter in presed didn't seems to work : d-i netcfg/wireless_essid string
[09:24] <sasmit87> rory: till now happening
[09:24] <sasmit87> I will let you know
[09:24] <nomad_fr> so I trie with a preseed/run script for early configuratino but my script is never launch
[09:24] <Rory> sasmit87: OK I should be here for the next 3 hours
[09:25] <pat> Hello gentleman. I'm wondering if anyone knows how to disable sticky edges in xfce?
[09:25] <pat> There's no option for it in display settings.
[09:25] <sasmit87> rory: any idea how much time it takes
[09:25] <pat> And it's driving me insane.
[09:25] <Rory> sasmit87: Depends on the speed of your Internet connection
[09:25] <sasmit87> its 4mbps
[09:26] <Rory> pat: In XFCE it's called "tiling snap" not sticky edges
[09:26] <michael87> anyone else waiting for the release of 13.10? I keep hoping it will get faster with more functions.
[09:26] <pat> Rory: oh okay, where abouts is that option?
[09:26] <sasmit87> rory: its showing now
[09:26] <sasmit87> Continue [yN]  Details [d]
[09:26] <MrQuist> i keep hoping it fixes damn drivers issues and comes with a proper window manager
[09:26] <Rory> sasmit87: continue
[09:26] <sasmit87> y
[09:26] <sasmit87> right
[09:26] <Rory> pat: I don't know,  don't use XFCE but it'll be in the settings console somewhere
[09:26] <Rory> sasmit87: Yes
[09:27] <pat> Rory: okay, thanks, I'll try and invoke Google
[09:27] <Rory> pat: Just poke around the settings
[09:27] <pat> Rory: hmm I've tried that, couldn't see it anywhere :( I'll try again
[09:27] <pat> Rory: google has nothing, yay
[09:28] <michael87> so weird questions, is there a way to make chromium transparent where the tabs are without effecting the tabs themselves? like windows 7. not a biggy just want to know if its possible
[09:28] <Rory> !xubuntu | pat
[09:28] <Rory> michael87: No, because Chrom/ium uses its own internal way of drawing the window, and the rest of the desktop can't change it
[09:28] <pat> I'll try the xubuntu chan, thanks
[09:29] <reisio> pat: sticky edges?
[09:30] <michael87> Rory, damn :(. well maybe one day that will change. I personally love unity and its task menu reminds me of aeroglass. just becuase microsoft wants to flatten everything doesn't mean I have to deal with that crap lol
[09:30] <pat> reisio: yeah, when i move my mouse from 1 monitor to the other the mouse gets stuck on the middle section for a bit
[09:30] <pat> reisio: and i have to wiggle it
[09:31] <Rory> reisio: on XFCE not Unity
[09:31] <reisio> Settings > Window Manager > Advanced > snap windows?
[09:31] <pat> unity does it for me too
[09:31] <reisio> Settings > Workspaces >Margins?
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> edge resistance  perhaps.
[09:32] <pat> reisio: nice, i'll try those
[09:32] <reisio> Settings > Window Manager Tweaks > Use edge resistance
[09:32] <reisio> and then of course you could query the heck out of xfconf
[09:32] <reisio> also, #xfce
[09:32] <pat> awesome, thanks!
[09:35] <michael87> anyway thanks for the answers I'm out
[09:35] <MrQuist> while we're at it; i had another window manger (unity or something - the ubuntu default), then i added some option that the window blinks on an alert message. Then a collegue of mine replaced the default one with Cinnamon - now i can't revert the blinking alert sound anymore
[09:36] <Rory> MrQuist: They're entirely different desktop environments, Cinnamon probably doesn't even support what you want
[09:36] <pat> reisio: according to #xubuntu it was that snap windows setting, good work
[09:36] <MrQuist> Okay, but then, why does it still blink?
[09:37] <MrQuist> When i go to all settings -> universal access -> hearing
[09:37] <reisio> pat: even without carrying a window?
[09:37] <reisio> MISNOMER!
[09:37] <MrQuist> visual effects (flash the window title / flash the entire screen) is disabled
[09:37] <pat> reisio: yeah :/
[09:38] <Slinderman> dual boot, win8 and ubuntu?
[09:38] <hitsujiTMO> myquist: afaik both ubuntu and cinnamon are built on top of gnome ... might be a setting common to both environments
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> myquist: afaik both unity* and cinnamon are built on top of gnome ... might be a setting common to both environments
[09:39] <Slinderman> :)
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> MrQuist^ even
[09:49] <DaHopi> hello @all, is there a possibility to use two graphic cards at same time with X11? In win7 it works, but on X11 i could not found a solution.. twinview and xinerama doesnt work .
[09:50] <DaHopi> first card is intel onboard hd graphics, 2nd is a nvidia with 2 display ports
[09:50] <DaHopi> so i have three monitor ports to use..
[09:51] <Boheme> ciao
[09:51] <Boheme> !list
[09:51] <lkthomas> I am looking for ubuntuwarez
[09:51] <reisio> DaHopi: twinview and xinerama are more for multiple monitors than multiple cards
[09:51] <reisio> but you can use multiple cards
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> DaHopi: yes, you may need to set up a cj
[09:53] <DaHopi> @reisio.. i want to use all three monitor outputs in unity.. as one desktop,..
[09:53] <DaHopi> @hitsujiTMO  whats a cj?
[09:53] <hitsujiTMO> DaHopi: yes, you may need to set up a custom xorg.conf to get it working, and install proprietary altho it's not an easy task
[09:54] <hitsujiTMO> DaHopi: a cj is the output of my dog hitting the keyboard :P
[09:54] <DaHopi> ahhh ok ;)
[09:54] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: ha
[09:55] <DaHopi> @hitsujiTMO do u know any howto? i found a lot about twinview / xinerama but only for one driver at same time..
[09:57] <hitsujiTMO> dahopi: i don't i'm afraid. theres a few people around the last few days looking to solve the same problem so hang around and if they're on they can share their experiences with you.  also try #xorg
[09:59] <DaHopi> ok.. i will try. #xorg.. thanx!
[10:00] <driiper> Hello, i'm currently tasked to set up a server at my university (ubuntu) and i head about the 13.10 coming out the 17th
[10:01] <driiper> so i was wondering if there is any issues with upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10
[10:01] <driiper> when its released that is
[10:01] <driiper> or if its possible to download the release version now from somewhere
[10:04] <hitsujiTMO> driiper: there could be, an upgrade is not also a smooth process, normally it would be recommend to use an lts release for a server.     saucy beta is here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/   (will update to release)   keep in mind all saucy support is in #ubuntu+1 til release
[10:04] <hitsujiTMO> always^
[10:04] <simon__> hey
[10:04] <driiper> okay sorry for asking in the wrong channel
[10:05] <driiper> hitsujiTMO: but a quick one nontheless  :P  that daily build will basicly be the release then if i understand you correctly?
[10:05] <hitsujiTMO> yes
[10:05] <driiper> hitsujiTMO: ok thanks alot! :)
[10:06] <DeepBlue> the windows buttons r lost in gnome except for the x button,i think this is because of a gnome extension but i don't no which
[10:15] <energizer1> I accidentally saved a multi-sheet spreadsheet as a csv instead of xls, and lost all the formulas and all the other sheets. Is it possible to recover?
[10:15] <TTTTT> how do I install git-slave on ubuntu without installing from source? I've tried apt-cache search gits. I've tried looking in synaptic's gui etc.
[10:15] <TTTTT> This is what git slave is http://gitslave.sourceforge.net/
[10:16] <gordonjcp> TTTTT: look for a PPA for it?
[10:16] <cfhowlett> energizer1, possibly in autosaves ... not sure where to look but the location will be stated in the preferences /settings
[10:18] <TTTTT> gordonjcp, Let me check but havn't had any success with finding a ppa
[10:18] <energizer1> cfhowlett: nothing there
[10:18] <energizer1> thanks tho
[10:18] <sasmit87> Rory:you still there know
[10:19] <vmz> I’m trying to run this bash script on VPS with Ubuntu 13.04: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6239937/ . But the last line resulting in error: Syntax error: "(" unexpected . How to make this script run without errors?
[10:19] <TTTTT> gordonjcp, I have a computer with it installed, how can I check which ppa it came from? There are lots of them in sources.list
[10:19] <cfhowlett> energizer1, best of luck.
[10:21] <TTTTT> vmz, What do you expect the script to do?
[10:21] <TTTTT> vmz, Or what is it you want done on your vps
[10:22] <Rory> Hello sasmit87 Yes
[10:23] <sasmit87> no just wanted to check if you are there
[10:23] <sasmit87> its still going on
[10:23] <Rory> sasmit87: OK no problem
[10:23] <Rory> Does anyone know if it's possible to get desktop notifications for an IRC setup that goes weechat -> screen -> ssh -> Terminator -> Ubuntu
[10:24] <Rory> If I could have desktop notifications for hilights I would be so happy
[10:24] <vmz> TTTTT: I’m running gith nodejs server which is listening to github web hooks and when I commit to master branch of my websites repo - this nodejs server runs this bash script. And this script pulls code from github, installs dependencies with npm and generating static website with docpad. And then I need to make gzip versions of some files with that last line of the bash script - but this line gives me an error and not executing properly
[10:24] <jrib> Rory: should be, check weechat scripts page
[10:25] <gordonjcp> Rory: write a weechat plugin that sends a message when you're highlighted?
[10:25] <gordonjcp> Rory: or hell, *find* one
[10:26] <gordonjcp> Rory: weechat -> mqtt -> notifications ;-)
[10:26] <jrib> there are at least 3 options that I see on the scripts page
[10:26] <TTTTT> vmz, Let me try see what is wrong with it. You can try asking in #bash. Do you know of any cool channels for web dev stuff?
[10:29] <vmz> Yep, but it seems related somehow with Ubuntu. I’ve found some similar topics on google with that error and Ubuntu, but not found solution yet. This script was introduced in the blogpost as fully working, so maybe its author runs it on another Linux distro... As for channels - yes, I could always use /list (:
[10:30] <TTTTT> vmz, Try this http://pastebin.com/pHGhR5Xi
[10:30] <Rory> vmz: I'd perhaps recommend against running /list on Freenode, depending on your client. There are a lot of channels
[10:34] <TTTTT> vmz, Did that work?
[10:34] <TTTTT> I gotta
[10:34] <TTTTT> go
[10:34] <vmz> Error:  sh: 1: cannot open {}: No such file
[10:35] <vmz> Something with "sh -c "gzip -7 -f < {} > {}.gz" I think...
[10:36] <TTTTT> vmz, Did you try the script I gave you
[10:36] <vmz> Yep
[10:36] <vmz> It gives me that error
[10:37] <vmz> Error:  sh: 1: cannot open {}: No such file
[10:37] <TTTTT> vmz, Ask on stackoverflow
[10:37] <TTTTT> you are noob
[10:38] <vmz> Yep, totally
[10:38] <geirha> vmz: find ./out -type f \( -name "*.html" -o -name "*.css" -o -name "*.js" \) -exec sh -c 'gzip -7 -f < "$1" > "$1.gz"' _ {} \;
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|TTTTT
[10:38] <geirha> -f is pointless though
[10:39] <vmz> geirha: trying that
[10:40] <geirha> vmz: The main point is that (, ) and ; are special to bash, so to pass those characters on to find, you have to escape them, either by prepending \ or quoting them; \(, '(' or "("
[10:40] <geirha> vmz: It's also bad practice to embed data into scripts, as you did with {}
[10:44] <DeepBlue> the windows buttons r lost in gnome except for the x button,i think this is because of a gnome extension but i don't no which
[10:44] <njsg> hei, I'm having trouble with pmount, I'm in the plugdev group, but when I mount a device it gets mounted under a different user, not the user I run pmount as
[10:44] <njsg> what do I need to do to fix that?
[10:45] <vmz> geirha: It worked! Thanks a lot!
[10:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:54] <nomad_fr> Hi, I need help with preseed setup
[10:54] <nomad_fr> I just want to launch an earl_command for wifi setup
[10:57] <sasmit87> Rory : do I need to restart my system after installation finshed
[11:00] <Rory> sasmit87: Yes you do
[11:01] <Rory> sasmit87: I need to go out now but people in here will help you with any post-upgrade issues
[11:01] <sasmit87> ohh...
[11:01] <njsg> anyone around who is successfully using pmount?
[11:01] <Rory> sasmit87: It's fine it's a busy channel full of knowledgable people
[11:02] <sasmit87> but sometime people dont help often like you
[11:03] <sasmit87> its taking quite long time
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: you can set the displaying of buttons in Gnome
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: its not an extension at all
[11:13] <r2j> hey long time
[11:13] <miroz> i think i broke my g++ environment (under ubuntu 13.04), i cannot even compile a hello world with #include <iostream>, i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6240069/
[11:14] <DeepBlue> ActionParsnip: i don't have the tweak tool
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> miroz: i'd ask in #c++
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: you can set it in dconf-tool
[11:14] <miroz> ActionParsnip: i did they sent me here :(
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> miroz: oh, do you have build-essential installed?
[11:15] <sasmit87> Rory: its finished downloading now
[11:15] <miroz> ActionParsnip: yes
[11:15] <sasmit87> its showing some pop up and asking me
[11:15] <sasmit87> rsync cups cron atd apache2__
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> miroz: are there any bugs reported?
[11:16] <subby1> Cant get my internet connection dont know y??
[11:16] <cfhowlett> !details|subby1,
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> subby1: how do you connect to the web? wireless? wifi? 3G?
[11:16] <miroz> ActionParsnip: when i apt-get install build-essential ? build-essential is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 142 not upgraded.
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> miroz: ok, get fully upgraded
[11:18] <foo357_> Hello, the following find syntax is wrong, how can I fix it? "find . -type f -iname "*.rar" -exec unrar {} basename {}"
[11:18] <miroz> hm you're right it's upgrading
[11:18] <grimeton> foo357_: you're missing the \; in the end
[11:18] <grimeton> foo357_: you have to add a ; at the end of exec and escape it so that the shell isn't interpreting it
[11:18] <foo357_> grimeton: ok, but 'basename is the issue'
[11:18] <subby1> ActionParsnip: yaa actually I hv connected it through my laptop with a lan connection which is connected with wifi
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> miroz: funny that...
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> subby1: why was that not in the initial question?
[11:19] <jrib> foo357_: what do you want to accomplish, in words?
[11:19] <Timon_> I created a Live USB using of Ubuntu-13.04 (64-bit) LiLi but it does not boot from there. I selected Removable device from Boot Menu. While making the USB LiLi showed that this distro is not in the compatibility list.
[11:19] <DeepBlue> ActionParsnip: thr dcnof editor gives no options under gnome entry
[11:19] <foo357_> grimeton: find doesn't interpret 'basename' as a command to execute and only thinks of it as a string
[11:19] <grimeton> foo357_: it's better to use a while loop: find ./ -type f -iname \*.rar | while read line; do bname=$(basename "$line"); unrar x "$line" "$bname" "$line"; done
[11:20] <subby1> Ohh I was first wwiting if anyone culd reply me first den I culd tell my prob...
[11:20] <foo357_> jrib: extract rar archives and put the content in whatever directory the archive is located at
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> subby1: if you use the ethernet, do you get a web connection?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> subby1, dude.  STATE the problem with details.  if someone knows, they'll speak up.  That's how it's done.
[11:21] <subby1> Yaa
[11:21] <grimeton> foo357_: find ./ -type f -iname \*.rar | while read line;  do dirname="$(basename "$line" .rar)"; mkdir "$dirname"; cd "$dirname"; unrar x "../$line"; cd ..; done
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: foo357_ watch for duplicated filenames in the archives as they will overwrite each other
[11:21] <foo357_> grimeton: uhh are you smoking something ;)
[11:21] <grimeton> foo357_: no, i'm nature stoned
[11:22] <subby1> cfhowlett: roger dat....
[11:22] <jrib> foo357_: i would just use execdir, but I guess the while loop will work too
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> subby1: is the OS fully updated?
[11:23] <DeepBlue> ActionParsnip: maybe some gnome packages r lost?
[11:23] <subby1> No.....
[11:23] <Timon_> Does LiLi throw up any problems when trying to make a Live USB of Ubuntu 64-bit?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> subby1: then get updates whilst you are on the wire
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: different releases use different dconfs
[11:24] <subby1> Ok....
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> subby1: too obvious?
[11:24] <hitsujiTMO> timon_ what filesystem is the usb? lili should not have any problems for ubuntu?
[11:25] <Timon_> hitsujiTMO: FAT32
[11:25] <DeepBlue> ActionParsnip: eepblue@DeepBlue ~ $ cat /etc/issue
[11:25] <DeepBlue> ubuntu13.04 \n \l
[11:25] <DeepBlue> deepblue@DeepBlue ~ $
[11:26] <miroz> ActionParsnip: i updated && upgraded, and now i'm getting: kscreen libegl1-mesa libegl1-mesa-drivers libgl1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libgles2-mesa libosmesa6 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-headers-generic-pae   linux-image-generic mesa-common-dev
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> DeepBlue: http://atlocalhost.wordpress.com/2012/07/17/howto-enable-minimize-and-maximize-buttons-on-window-title-bars-in-fedora-17/    you can change the oder by moving the colon and the words around
[11:26] <hitsujiTMO> timon_: make sure lili is up to date and the iso you're using is from a legit source and verify its md5
[11:26] <Timon_> hitsujiTMO: I thought maybe there's a problem with the ISO file itself but when I did a MD5 check. It matched....
[11:26] <DeepBlue> ActionParsnip: ok,thanx a lot ,buddy
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> miroz: just get updated, it may help
[11:28] <miroz> ActionParsnip: i did update, but now if i try to update again, i get that these following packages (above) have been "kept back"
[11:28] <miroz> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 14 not upgraded.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> miroz: are there any bugs reported?
[11:28] <Reacto> If I got a m3u playlist I want to stream from an ubuntu server, what's the easiest way to do this?
[11:29] <miroz> ActionParsnip: when i do "upgrade"? no just that these packages have been kept back
[11:29] <Timon_> hitsujiTMO: Now I am trying with unetbootin. Do I choose NetInstall_x64 or Live_x64 or Hdmedia_x64 ?
[11:29] <Reacto> You can only open the playlist on a network with multicast enabled, and I don't have that at home, so I figured I could host it here, then stream it to VLC at my home computer or something similiar
[11:29] <Reacto> I have a server running ubuntu that I want to stream it from
[11:29] <subby1> When I try to install gparted it shows an message" this requires installung packages from unauthenticated sources"....wat to do???? Not even opening any websites from chromium
[11:29] <hitsujiTMO> timon_: live is prob what you want
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> subby1: if you run:  sudo apt-get update    what is output please? Use http://pastie.org to host the text
[11:32] <subby1> ActionParsnip:where shuld I run it???
[11:35] <miroz> ActionParsnip: any other suggestion?
[11:36] <Timon_> Oh no....Unetbootin hangs up...not the first time!
[11:37] <hitsujiTMO> timon_; in what way is it hanging? could there be an issue with the usb stick itself?
[11:38] <Timon_> hitsujiTMO: no... I have seen unetbootin do the same thing with a complete different USB stick and a different system(Win7).  I am running Win8.
[11:39] <gillzon> how can i change character map in ps2pdf? dont get swedish letters like åäö, they been replaced by som strange characters?
[11:39] <Timon_> hitsujiTMO: Now it seems to be back.
[11:43] <miroz> how can i fix "the following packages have been kept back"
[11:46] <hitsujiTMO> miroz: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:46] <miroz> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[11:50] <miroz> hitsujiTMO: i still have "1 package have been kept back"
[11:50] <hitsujiTMO> miroz what package is it?
[11:50] <miroz> hitsujiTMO: kscreen
[11:51] <hitsujiTMO> miroz: try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:51] <hojgaard> im using ubuntu 13.10 > In Dash the nautilus icon is fine, but in the launcher its just a folder icon... Why is it like that?
[11:52] <miroz> hitsujiTMO: same thing
[11:53] <hitsujiTMO> miroz: try forcing it: sudo apt-get install kscreen
[11:54] <Timon_> My Disk space is like this.... http://imgur.com/1UJtnwZ I want to install Ubuntu on Disk 1 and remove Windows entirely. But I want to use the entire disk including the 15.00GB unallocated. How do i do that?
[11:54] <miroz> hitsujiTMO: thanks it worked
[11:57] <grimeton> Timon_: boot from the ubuntu dvd and then partition the disk as needed in the partition manager
[11:57] <hitsujiTMO> timon_: the installer will ask if you want to install ubuntu along side windows or on its own: it will reformat the system for if you let it use the guided partitioning. Note: you will lose all data.
[11:58] <Timon_> hitsujiTMO: Will it allow me to combine the 15.00GB and the 59.43 GB (Current Win8 Volume)?
[11:59] <hitsujiTMO> timon_: sorry i didnt read your query correctly. as grimeton: said you can manually specify the partitions
[11:59] <Timon_> oops I didn't read his comment.
[12:00] <hitsujiTMO> timon_: you can delete all partitions in disk1 and create a root partition and swap partition for ubuntu
[12:00] <ruby_on_tails> hello, i downloaded a .ova file and trying to import it using virtualbox ose import appliance feature but it fails saying could not import appliance, can anyone help ?
[12:03] <hitsujiTMO> ruby_on_tails: i would suggest to also ask that question in #vbox
[12:03] <nomad_fr> is it possible to use early command in preseed ?
[12:03] <ruby_on_tails> hitsujiTMO: just did that
[12:03] <ActionPa1snip> ruby_on_tails: ask in #vbox too
[12:04] <tanja__> hi, apt worries about conflicts and it seems like it does not want to update versions which have been previously installed with a force to version by app-name=some-version
[12:05] <tanja__> where to check and reset these forced (old) versions?
[12:05] <Timon_> hitsujiTMO: A friend of mine gave me this screenshot.... He does not have internet connection when he uses Ubuntu. (He has net conn when using Win7. Dual Boot!) Any ideas??
[12:05] <Timon_> http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4787/du01.jpg
[12:05] <Timon_> hitsujiTMO: ^^
[12:05] <kippie> Has the RC for 13.10 been released yet
[12:07] <|Anthony|> I'm trying to make a modified sudoers file but it keeps failing. After i make the edits i check with visudo -cf and it passes syntax checks. I then move the file to /etc/sudoers.d/sudoers where sudo promptly breaks stating a parse error. The line it references keeps on moving down the list as i comment the previous offenses out.
[12:07] <|Anthony|> why would the file pass the visudo check, but fail when put into place?
[12:07] <kippie> and when is the release date for #saucy
[12:07] <hitsujiTMO> timon_ fist thing to do is to findout what network device he has (could be done with lspic or lsusb)
[12:07] <|Anthony|> ^lspci
[12:08] <hitsujiTMO> Timon_ yes lspci not lspic  :P
[12:08] <Timon_> OK hitsujiTMO I will try that on his PC....
[12:10] <fnoyanisi> hi folks. is there a counterpart of bsd's pkg_info command in ubuntu?
[12:11] <tanja__> is there a config or blocklist which tells apt which versions must not be overwritten?
[12:11] <gordonjcp> fnoyanisi: depends, what does pkg_info do?
[12:11] <fnoyanisi> gives information, about a file, or package
[12:11] <fnoyanisi> let me say, I'd like to learn the download size of kde suite?
[12:12] <repudiate> What's up #ubuntu?
[12:12] <dmaroulidis> repudiate: OK
[12:12] <Myrtti> fnoyanisi: well, I suppose the best way to find it would be to do a dryrun on apt-get
[12:13] <gordonjcp> fnoyanisi: dpkg -l or dpkg -L maybe?
[12:13] <hitsujiTMO> fnoyanisi apt-cache show packagename     gives info about a package in repository
[12:14] <Myrtti> gordonjcp, hitsujiTMO: that would show only the status of a single package, not the dependencies...
[12:14] <Mephos> Is this the right channel to ask for hardware recommendations?
[12:15] <gordonjcp> Myrtti: true
[12:15] <|Anthony|> anyone here familiar with /etc/sudoers.d
[12:15] <dmaroulidis> yes
[12:15] <hitsujiTMO> myrtti: apt-cache shows dependencies for me
[12:15] <Myrtti> hitsujiTMO: also the download size of them?
[12:15] <Myrtti> (that's what was effectively asked)
[12:15] <|Anthony|> dmaroulidis, i posted an issue above. would you like me to repost it?
[12:15] <hitsujiTMO> myrtti: yes the size too
[12:16] <dmaroulidis> |Anthony|: yes
[12:16] <|Anthony|> I'm trying to make a modified sudoers file but it keeps failing. After i make the edits i check with visudo -cf and it passes syntax checks. I then move the file to /etc/sudoers.d/sudoers where sudo promptly breaks stating a parse error. The line it references keeps on moving down the list as i comment the previous offenses out. why would the file pass the visudo check, but fail when put into place?
[12:17] <hitsujiTMO> myrtti: yes the size too, altho not size of dependancies
[12:17] <|Anthony|> dmaroulidis, would you like to see a pastebin?
[12:17] <Myrtti> to be honest apt-get -s doesn't show the download sizes either
[12:17] <dmaroulidis> anthony, yes
[12:17] <gens_> hi, i'm getting a bunch of errors when trying to compile a simple file http://pastie.org/8403644 can anyone help please?
[12:17] <fnoyanisi> |Anthony| : maybe you have an extra empty line at the end of the file!
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> Myrtti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6240289/   example output of: apt-cache show apache2
[12:18] <|Anthony|> http://pastebin.com/2pumMER8
[12:18] <Nothing_Much> My indicator applets aren't working
[12:18] <Nothing_Much> How do I get them back?
[12:18] <dmaroulidis> fnoyanisi: I didn't know that this was a problem.
[12:18] <|Anthony|> fnoyanisi, indeed i do
[12:19] <|Anthony|> would that actually cause this issue?
[12:19] <|Anthony|> so odd
[12:19] <Nothing_Much> Why aren't my indicator applets working? They won't appear at all!
[12:20] <Nothing_Much> Hello?
[12:20] <fnoyanisi> |Anthony| : just try to delete the last line
[12:20] <fnoyanisi> by dd
[12:20] <dmaroulidis> Anthony, In which line is the problem
[12:20] <fnoyanisi> and save the file
[12:20] <fnoyanisi> ESC + :w
[12:20] <n008> is there anyway I can setup an ip based proxy easily?
[12:20] <Nothing_Much> Why aren't my indicator applets working? They won't appear at all!
[12:21] <n008> my host's ip address is whitelisted for a destination ip address
[12:21] <n008> but everyother computer on the internet is blacklisted
[12:21] <adamk> Nothing_Much: We've heard you, each time. If no one who is currently around knows the answer, no one is going to answer.
[12:21] <dmaroulidis> fnoyanisi why would someone delete the last line from the file.
[12:21] <n008> I want to be able to access the destinatination address from my computer
[12:21] <adamk> Nothing_Much: Instead of asking the same question over and over, you could try rephrasing it and giving more details.
[12:21] <bruno_al> test
[12:22] <Nothing_Much> adamk, I'm sorry about that, but I don't know what else to say, they just won't appear at all at any time. I'm on 13.10 though.
[12:22] <hitsujiTMO> gens_: what is the output of: uname -a
[12:23] <brandonj> I'm looking for some clarification on anacron's default behavior.  On a standard install of 12.04, if I add an entry to the user's crontab with '@weekly' will it be run by anacron or the regular cron daemon only?
[12:24] <gens_> Linux Linux 3.8.0-31-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 19:56:49 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:24] <gens_> hitsujiTMO: ^
[12:26] <|Anthony|> dmaroulidis, line 12 is an issue
[12:26] <|Anthony|> if i comment that out the line 17
[12:26] <|Anthony|> then*
[12:27] <Jayflux> didn't ruby used to be in the default install of Ubuntu?
[12:27] <|Anthony|> i did remove the trailing newline, but the issue persists fnoyanisi
[12:30] <Timon_> OK this is the fourth time that I have tried to install Ubuntu from a Live USB. I don't know why this is not working..... I plug it in. Start the PC and select Removable disk from  the Boot Device Priority page and save changes and exit. The PC restarts but boots into Win 8 directly.... http://i.imgur.com/1UJtnwZ.png
[12:30] <ludiel> solo prova
[12:31] <|Anthony|> Timon_, was the usb created correctly?
[12:31] <bekks> Timon_: Sounds like UEFI secure boot, which does not allow you to boot something else. Disable it in the BIOS, try again.
[12:32] <hitsujiTMO> timon_: make sure secure boot and fast boot is disabled ... also legacy usb may need to be enabled
[12:32] <Timon_> |Anthony|: yes the device was created correctly. bekks I have done this before using the Live USB but I dunno why this work now. hitsujiTMO I will try to find UEFI and fast boot and disable it...
[12:33] <Timon_> OK bye...
[12:42] <dveim> hello
[12:42] <C0mm4nd3r> hy
[12:42] <C0mm4nd3r> h
[12:43] <C0mm4nd3r> hi
[12:43] <dveim> i have to generate xml with some random values in tags
[12:43] <dveim> using _only_ shell tools
[12:43] <dveim> no python perl
[12:43] <dveim> any tips? =)
[12:43] <bekks> dveim: bash.
[12:43] <C0mm4nd3r> can anyone help me ?
[12:44] <C0mm4nd3r> i have a problem
[12:44] <dveim> bekks: didn't work with it
[12:44] <Jayflux> didn't ruby used to be in the default install of Ubuntu?
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> dveim: i would suggest asking for help in #bash
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> !ask | C0mm4nd3r
[12:44] <dveim> -hitsujiTMO: indeed, thanks
[12:44] <C0mm4nd3r> ook
[12:46] <Guest5362> Hello everyone, I created a text file containing many web addresses. is there a way to turn them into links? I would like to double click on them and automatically new tab in firefox. use Geany
[12:49] <Timon__> HI
[12:49] <C0mm4nd3r> hello guys , how can i re-install firefox ?
[12:49] <ufoczek> apt-get remove --purge, apt-get install :)
[12:49] <Timon__> Does anyone have an alternate for InfraRecorder. It has nothing for Win8 http://infrarecorder.org/?page_id=5
[12:50] <hitsujiTMO> C0mm4nd3r: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[12:50] <C0mm4nd3r> thanks everyone
[12:52] <geirha> Guest5362: If geany has that ability, #geany probably knows.
[12:53] <Timon__> Does anyone have an alternate for InfraRecorder? It has nothing for Win8 http://infrarecorder.org/?page_id=5
[12:53] <Guest5362> geirha:  tanks you
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> Timon__  i'm sure the people in ##windows can help you better
[12:56] <C0mm4nd3r> firefox is not reinstalling ;)
[12:57] <C0mm4nd3r> sigh sigh
[12:58] <superkuh> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/packages.medibuntu.org/ ...
[12:58] <superkuh> Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'packages.medibuntu.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> superkuh  here's why: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[13:00] <superkuh> "The Medibuntu Project has come to an end" :(
[13:00] <geirha> C0mm4nd3r: Perhaps you really just want to reset your firefox config
[13:00] <bekks> superkuh: medibutu is officially shut down.
[13:00] <superkuh> So...
[13:00] <geirha> reinstalling firefox has no effect unless you've manually modified some of its files under /usr or similar
[13:00] <C0mm4nd3r> ok thanks
[13:00] <superkuh> Can anyone direct me to similar repositories? With lucid support?
[13:01] <bekks> superkuh: There is no lucid desktop support anymore, since April 2013.
[13:01] <superkuh> Right.
[13:02] <grit96> ?
[13:04] <C0mm4nd3r> and if i install tor from "terminale" ? (excuse me but i'm in italian guy)
[13:05] <C0mm4nd3r> *but i'm italian guy
[13:06] <gens_> hi, i'm getting a bunch of errors when trying to compile a simple file http://pastie.org/8403644 can anyone help please?
[13:11] <Timon__> At least can someone tell me how to burn a Ubuntu 13.04 64bit DVD?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> Timon__  in windows or in ubuntu?
[13:11] <Timon__> In windows
[13:11] <Timon__> MonkeyDust: ^
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Timon__  i'm sure the people in ##windows can help you better
[13:12] <MrQuist> lol
[13:12] <MrQuist> i guess #welcome-to-computers would fit better
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Timon__  you're not in the right channel
[13:12] <Timon__> I have asked.... And they are yet to answer it.
[13:12] <MrQuist> Timon__, download imgburn and burn the image
[13:12] <MrQuist> you can select the drive and the ISO file, then you should be able to boot from it
[13:13] <geirha> gens_: Odd, works here.
[13:13] <gens_> geirha: i think my ubuntu install is broken, but i don't know how to fix it
[13:13] <gens_> or at least the packages for g++ and such
[13:14] <MrQuist> gens_, have you tried another compiler?
[13:15] <MrQuist> or just reinstalling G++
[13:15] <geirha> gens_: I'd try reinstalling g++-4.7 and libstdc++6-4.7-dev
[13:17] <gens_> MrQuist: geirha: same problem after reinstalling these two packages (and i'm getting similar issues with clang++à)
[13:17] <MrQuist> hmm
[13:18] <MrQuist> i'm afraid this exceeds my knowledge gens_
[13:18] <geirha> gens_: Would help to know how it got broken :)
[13:18] <Achilles`> Has anyone programmed instrumentation with Pin? How do you make these errors go away for all of PIN function calls/data types? I've put all the header files in /usr/local/lib and it can find "pin.H" but I still get errors for the function calls/data types specific to Pin.
[13:19] <gens_> geirha: i don't remember exactly what i did, but i was trying to compile llvm and clang from source, and then uninstalled some old llvm packages, and i also tried to install to libstdc++6-4.7-dev manually but it was already installed
[13:19] <Pici> Achilles`: Are you sure you're asking in the right channel? This is #ubuntu
[13:20] <Achilles`> @Pici : Sure, but there's no channel specifically for Pin, so I thought I'd try my luck here.
[13:21] <frog_> hi
[13:25] <camel_> help
[13:26] <benzrf> helloworld:
[13:26] <benzrf> *hello
[13:26] <helloworld> hello
[13:27] <m2kk> helloworld, hello
[13:27] <benzrf> my friend is using an asus laptop, and his wifi does not work
[13:27] <benzrf> rfkill list lists his internal wifi as being hardblocked
[13:27] <benzrf> but his external dongle doesn't seem to work either
[13:27] <benzrf> even though it is not blocked
[13:27] <m2kk> benzrf, what kind of asus laptop
[13:28] <benzrf> m2kk: w75a
[13:28] <gens_> regarding my http://pastie.org/8403644 problem, i moved the file /usr/include/c++/4.7/bits/c++config.h to c++config.h.back, and it solved the problem, is this hack ok, or should i do something else?
[13:29] <m2kk> benzrf, sorry cant find any info on that laptop
[13:29] <m2kk> benzrf, could you find it and link it here?
[13:29] <benzrf> *x75a, sorry
[13:30] <benzrf> my bad
[13:31] <camel_> I random my windows 7 secret
[13:31] <camel_> how can i log on
[13:31] <bekks> camel_: Ask ##windows
[13:36] <benzrf> m2kk: anything?
[13:37] <m2kk> benzrf, did you check this? http://blog.qpg.us/2013/09/09/asus-x75a-wifi-hardware-disabled-solved-2/
[13:38] <benzrf> awesome
[13:38] <benzrf> thank you :D
[13:40] <m2kk> benzrf, you are welcome!
[13:45] <Jinxters> Hi there guys
[13:46] <Jinxters> sorry about that
[13:48] <Jinxters> I would like to start installing Ubuntu on my old PC and later on an IRC server
[13:51] <TiagoTT> hello, I am having trouble with Vagrant and LXC after recent upgrade on 13.04
[13:52] <TiagoTT> the guests network DHCP is not working well
[13:52] <TiagoTT> anyone else with the same problem?
[14:00] <shyaam_>  hi i tried compiling libmirage on my system but it returned error saying dh_install: libmirage9 missing files (usr/lib/*/lib*.so.*), aborting make: *** [binary] Error 255
[14:02] <m2kk> Jinxters, yes? whats your question?
[14:02] <helmut_> hi
[14:03] <lashi> hi, does anyone know where I can get some help on nautilus?
[14:03] <shyaam_> hi
[14:03] <lashi> is there a nautilus expert here? or is there a chan for it?
[14:04] <Dai_1987> lashi: just ask your question and see what happens
[14:05] <lashi> ok, here goes. So, I'm running nautilus version 3.4.2 and when I try and cut a file and then subsequently paste, if the destination drive is a mounted disk, it doesn't let me. I certainly have the right permissions because I can just drag and drop and it copies and I can manually delete. But this is suboptimal.
[14:05] <shyaam_> what do you want to know about nautilus
[14:06] <lashi> I just wonder whether there is some option to disable the cut and paste when it's a mounted disk? This certainly wasn't the case on older Ubuntu, I believe when I ran 10.10. I'm currently running 12.04
[14:07] <shyaam_> did you run nautilus as admin to do this type "sudo nautilus" in cmd prompt and you will be cool
[14:08] <lashi> that's not a good option
[14:08] <lashi> I shouldn't have to run anything root - that's how you damage the system
[14:11] <hid> hi, do the /usr/share/fonts/ directory slow down ubuntu?
[14:13] <shyaam_> hi has anyone installed libmirage on ubuntu 12.04 help me
[14:16] <fhtagn> onavo. Are there alternatives? Was thinking something you could run on a server and have Android tunnel through there.
[14:16] <dani90> bye bye
[14:19] <shyaam_>  hi i tried compiling libmirage on my system but it returned error saying dh_install: libmirage9 missing files (usr/lib/*/lib*.so.*), aborting make: *** [binary] Error 255
[14:21] <LivTyler> Hello, I'm buying ssl signed certificates for my webserver, also I'm using freeradius and I wonder if I need to give information about this to my ssl CA authority so I can use pem crt or key, I'm not sure, could anyone give some light on this? it's first time I acquire this type of certificates
[14:21] <plof_> hello , when switching to tty , any sound played in Xorg stops working , is there a ways to make it globally  work on all ttys ?
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> livtyler: how many certs and what class certs are you purchasing?
[14:22] <n008> this sounds stupid, can a child process stop and start a parent process?
[14:22] <Timon_> Why does my PC boot Win8 instead of the Ubuntu DVD or LiveUSB? I have chosen in "Boot Priority" CD>Removable USB>HDD. I have even disabled Quick Boot...
[14:22] <ido2> shyaam_: both directories exist? /usr/lib and /lib ?
[14:23] <shyaam_> yes
[14:23] <LivTyler> hitsujiTMO: I'm buying 3 at first instance, for my mail server for my web site and for my ldap server, they're asking me if I need another cert more, I'm wondering if I should configure something in my freeradius, give them information about this
[14:23] <hillary> programmes running on wine cannot start. it says file not found. If it starts i cannot stop them unless i restart my laptop ubuntu 12.04
[14:24] <ido2> maybe you can try the script at the bottom? http://askubuntu.com/questions/272729/accidently-deleted-usr-lib-how-do-i-restore-it
[14:25] <LivTyler> hitsujiTMO: sorry I don't know about class certs, please help me
[14:26] <nicky_> Hi. Please help me. While remastersys was setting user profiles I pushed the reset button on my computer because I couldn't close the apllication. Now I can't boot anymore. The boot-repair doesn't see the disk.
[14:26] <hillary> could it be the wine windows loader has a problem?
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> livtyler: from what i understand of radius you should not need anything special for your certs, i would get a test cert for a dummy domain/subdomain to test out ofcourse. I would recommend looking at startssl as they are free and widely supported for class 1 certs
[14:27] <Wiz_KeeD> Could someone please recommend a good temperature monitor? and other statistics for that matter if it can
[14:28] <Wiz_KeeD> I will get a new laptop and it supposingly gets a bit hot from time to time, it has the turbo boost capacity on the proccessor and that could be it
[14:28] <LivTyler> hitsujiTMO: If I would want something more official? mean CA signed certs, what info/files I should give them?
[14:29] <hitsujiTMO> startssl are a CA. you can generate a simple CSR bit basic info or you can let them generate the CSR for you
[14:30] <nicky_> okay. Can I save some folders from the USB drive which contains the OS that I won't have to spend another 2 days to install back my apps?
[14:30] <shyaam_>  hi i tried compiling libmirage on my system but it returned error saying dh_install: libmirage9 missing files (usr/lib/*/lib*.so.*), aborting make: *** [binary] Error 255
[14:33] <ido2> shyaam_: you have all the requirements, as stated here: http://cdemu.org/about/libmirage/    ?
[14:34] <Reacto> a friend of mine has an ubuntu server he wants me and a few other guys to be able to use and test stuff on, what's the easiest way for him to set up virtual machines on his server that we can use?
[14:34] <compdoc> Reacto, sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm virt-manager
[14:35] <compdoc> then reboot
[14:35] <Reacto> can you use virt-manager without gui=
[14:35] <Reacto> ?*
[14:36] <shyaam_> yes
[14:36] <Reacto> virt-install?
[14:36] <liquidmetal> anyone here heard of a job profile called "configuration management"?
[14:36] <compdoc> virt-manager is a gui, but you dont need it
[14:38] <kongthap> is it always safe to delete lost+found folder???
[14:39] <Reacto> compdoc, what do you need instead?
[14:40] <^_^_^_^_^_> http://pastebin.com/84jkWGnT <= this is my cat /proc/cpuinfo is the processor 32 or 64bit?
[14:41] <SonikkuAmerica> We really have a ^_^_^_^_^_ in the house :-)
[14:41] <geirha> ^_^_^_^_^_: what does ''uname -m'' say?
[14:41] <vicente_ragnar> main information about your OS
[14:41] <^_^_^_^_^_> i686
[14:41] <SonikkuAmerica> I've never heard of a 64-bit Pentium CPU.
[14:42] <SonikkuAmerica> ^_^_^_^_^_: 32-bit
[14:42] <^_^_^_^_^_> http://ark.intel.com/products/55627/Intel-Pentium-Processor-B950-2M-Cache-2_10-GHz Intel® 64 ‡
[14:42] <^_^_^_^_^_> 	Yes
[14:42] <^_^_^_^_^_> Is that because I'm running ubuntu 32 bit?
[14:42] <^_^_^_^_^_> That uname shows as i686
[14:43] <Pici> ^_^_^_^_^_: Your CPU has the lm flag in your cpuinfo, which means that it supports x86-64
[14:43] <Pici> ^_^_^_^_^_: so yes, it is a '64-bit processor'.
[14:43] <^_^_^_^_^_> thanks
[14:44] <^_^_^_^_^_> let me take a look at the pastebin
[14:44] <^_^_^_^_^_> so i know for the future
[14:44] <TiagoTT> hello, I am having trouble with Vagrant and LXC after recent upgrade on 13.04
[14:44] <TiagoTT> the guests network DHCP is not working well
[14:44] <TiagoTT> anyone else with the same problem?
[14:44] <^_^_^_^_^_> lm: Long Mode (x86-64: amd64, also known as Intel 64, i.e. 64-bit capable)
[14:44] <^_^_^_^_^_> gotcha thanks
[14:44] <bibi346> hi, I'm beginning with ubuntu / linux, I don't understand what does option 2 means here : http://pastie.org/8403960 , how is it possible? will it open multiple tcp sockets?
[14:45] <A1Recon> I am about to install Ubuntu 13.04. And I want to format the Win8 drive and install Ubuntu there. What do I choose?
[14:46] <A1Recon> OK Got it....
[14:46] <pac1> A1Recon, no going back...
[14:47] <SonikkuAmerica> ^_^_^_^_^_: If your uname -m had a 64 in it it would be a 64-bit processor
[14:48] <LivTyler> hitsujiTMO: when buying a cert class 1 what info I should give, I'm buying from verisign
[14:48] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: not necessarily, you can run 32bit OS on 64bit OS
[14:48] <^_^_^_^_^_> it has a lm flag
[14:48] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: so uname -m    does not tell you the CPU arch, only the kernel
[14:48] <^_^_^_^_^_> I think uname just specifies the os
[14:48] <^_^_^_^_^_> it says generic which is true im running 32 bit ubuntu
[14:49] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: you can run both 64bit and 32bit OS and 64bit OS on 64bit CPU, but obly 32bit OS on 32bit CPU
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> weird nick, i don't know how to make it: try this line sudo dmidecode -t processor|grep capable
[14:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Ubuntu Studio uses lowlatency
[14:49] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: thats not an architecture
[14:49] <SonikkuAmerica> No, it's a kernel
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> ^_^_^_^_^_  try this line: sudo dmidecode -t processor|grep capable
[14:49] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: yes but it doesnt tell you if its 32bit or 64bit
[14:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Back! Circular arguments! I'm done. :-)
[14:50] <SonikkuAmerica> *Ack!
[14:50] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: 'low latency' doesn't clarify 32bit or 64bitness
[14:51] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: its not circular at all
[14:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Right.
[14:51] <geirha> lshw -class cpu | grep width
[14:51] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: so why say "Back! Circular arguments! I'm done. :-)" when it's not circular?
[14:52] <SonikkuAmerica> More like square one.
[14:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot
[14:52] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: i'll just assume you dont know what you are talking about
[14:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Actually I think #Ubuntu-arguments is a better place :-)
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> livtyler: its dependant on the vendor, this should give you an idea: https://knowledge.verisign.co.uk/support/ssl-certificates-support/index?page=content&actp=CROSSLINK&id=AR198
[14:57] <ansu> wasn't there a command to test apticron?
[14:58] <willejs> hi all I'm having an issue where interrupts are not spread evenly across all processor cores for my main networking device (eth0)
[14:58] <isasha> Hai
[14:59] <willejs> i think its related to SMP affinity, but the file /proc/irq/217/smp_affinity is set to 0-7 (all cores)
[14:59] <willejs> any ideas?
[14:59] <isasha> just wondering, where can I find this http://i.imgur.com/4NmZcNY.gif ?
[14:59] <isasha> Particularly the top status bar with all the widgets part
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> isasha thats is xmonad i do believe
[15:04] <isasha> isn't that a window manager though?
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> yes
[15:07] <Soru> Dudes
[15:07] <Soru> I deleted a directory
[15:08] <Soru> and it is not at the bin
[15:08] <Soru> and one more thing!
[15:09] <Soru> The HDD is still full
[15:09] <geirha> Soru: How did you delete it?
[15:09] <Soru> with the file explorer
[15:10] <Touhou11> Sometimes there is more than one recycle bin, depending on the source directory of the file
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> isasha, to be speciific its xmonads a dzen bar, ( and dzen applets ) and tint2 panel
[15:10] <geirha> Soru: Then some process has one or more of the files in that directory still open
[15:10] <Touhou11> You can use "baobab" to see where large files reside
[15:10] <isasha> I shall check that out, tanks hitsujiTMO
[15:11] <Soru> Thanks Touhou11 (nice game) and geirha ;)
[15:14] <^_^_^_^_^_>    width: 64 bits
[15:16] <ayu__> hello
[15:16] <jmgk> hi ayu__
[15:21] <Marlenee> how can i change timezone in date tool from UTC to GMT with 24 format
[15:23] <jmgk> hi
[15:27] <shyaam_> i need help on how to install libmirage on 12.04. i tried compiling lreturned error saying dh_install: libmirage9 missing files (usr/lib/*/lib*.so.*), aborting make: *** [binary] Error 255
[15:29] <bjensen82> Hi guys. Im setting up my hardware raid to use with ubuntu 12.04 lts. There is an option about sectors/track. I can choose between 63 and 32. The help msg describes it as: "The number of sectors per track presented to the operating system as part of the legacy geometry (CHS) information". Help please?
[15:30] <SonikkuAmerica> bjensen82: 64 and 32 you mean?
[15:30] <bjensen82> SonikkuAmerica: nope, 31 and 63 i mean
[15:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Hmmm... I dunno much about raid... But...
[15:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !raid
[15:32] <bjensen82> those seam to be on the subject of software raid..
[15:33] <os2finn> hi all
[15:33] <ajd> I have preinstalled windows 8 laptop, can anyone recommend a working document that explains how to install ubuntu 13.10 as dual boot?`
[15:33] <os2finn> What is best way to get decent Wine on 12.04 64bit?
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> os2finn  sudo apt-get install wine
[15:34] <os2finn> I have tried 1.5 1.6 and 1.7 from repository but all give me err:seh
[15:34] <os2finn> On my other laptop with 32-bit 12.04 and wine 1.3.28 my apps work
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> !info wine
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> os2finn  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue
[15:35] <os2finn> MonkeyDust this is a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 wines
[15:35] <os2finn> 64bit
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> !info wine lucid
[15:36] <os2finn> I tried compiling wine from sources but 32-bit compiling stopped because schroot did not work(there was a permissions error)
[15:37] <os2finn> and that seems also a problem with 12.04 64bit
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> os2finn  what's wrong with the version in the repos?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> os2finn  tip: there's also #winehq
[15:38] <os2finn> MonkeyDust there is a bug report on WineHQ that states that 12.04 64bit wines are broken
[15:38] <os2finn> I get error err:seh running code outside stack with my apps
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> os2finn  yeah, guess you better ask in #winehq then
[15:41] <JohnSmith> Hi there
[15:42] <MangaKaDenza> JohnSmith, is that a haruhi reference ?
[15:44] <Tenem> Cannot access my HDD http://paste.ubuntu.com/6241042/
[15:44] <Tenem> Please help!
[15:46] <jgcampbell300> hey hey
[15:46] <Tenem> Anyone here??
[15:46] <MangaKaDenza> Tenem, have you tried mounting it?
[15:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Tenem: Are you familiar with burnt offerings? :-) Does Windows start when you boot it from GRUB?
[15:46] <Tenem> MangaKaDenza: It won't even mount...
[15:47] <MangaKaDenza> does it.. you know
[15:47] <MangaKaDenza> actually work?
[15:47] <Tenem> SonikkuAmerica: I had Windows a few minutes ago. I instaled Ubuntu and removed Windows
[15:47] <jgcampbell300> I need assistance finding information and terminology of what im looking for. I am looking for something like virtual box that dosnt run on host os .. example I want ot turn my computer on and it ask me what image i want to start . then start it. at the same time i would like to be able to pause or start another image at same time
[15:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Tenem: Boot from a Live image and run GParted.
[15:48] <Tenem> SonikkuAmerica: and then what??
[15:48] <jgcampbell300> can anyone point me to a source of information on this type of virtualization
[15:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Tenem: Check for a partition containing an NTFS file system.
[15:49] <Tenem> Can I install Windows again(remove Ubuntu in the process)?
[15:49] <Tenem> SonikkuAmerica: ^^
[15:50] <JohnSmith> I have hundred millions of file stored in a 2 level folder, in this form AA/BB/832497BBAA.ext. Nowadays it's more or less impossible to scan this arborescence with utils like du or rsync. The filesystem is ext4, mounted with noatime. Does anyone has good practices regarding storing millions of files, like using different filesystem or maybe distributed FS?
[15:50] <SonikkuAmerica> jgcampbell300: So you want to run multiple OS's from one machine at one, but not through a hypervisor's metadata... Like mounting a raw disk image in VBox?
[15:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Tenem: If you have a Windows installation disc of some sort
[15:50] <Tenem> OK will do that...
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> JohnSmith  is that on a file server? if yes: try asking in #ubuntu-server
[15:52] <SonikkuAmerica> jgcampbell300: Can you be more specific?
[15:53] <JohnSmith> Yeah thank you
[15:53] <jgcampbell300> SonikkuAmerica, i think so ... i saw a tech with a notebook that when his computer started he had only 5 icons and if he clicked one windows would start he could then click anohter and linux would start etc ... he had all 5 running at one time and it didnt appear to have a host os like loading virtual box on ubuntu ... it was like the computer started with no os then loaded diffrent images
[15:53] <jgcampbell300> i just dont konw what someting like this would be called so im haveing a hard time finding a place to start reading and researching
[15:53] <Rory> jgcampbell300: Sounds like the word you want is "hypervisor"
[15:54] <SonikkuAmerica> jgcampbell300: VBox can act as a hypervisor for raw partitions.
[15:54] <bubbly193> does anyone know the irc channel for the api website?
[15:54] <SonikkuAmerica> ... As well as full VMs.
[15:54] <jgcampbell300> hypervisor ... cool ... that sounds like where ill start reading ... anyone else have any more info for me befor i go to reading
[15:54] <Rory> bubbly193: What is "the api website" ?
[15:54] <jgcampbell300> and thanks Rory and SonikkuAmerica
[15:55] <bubbly193> ubuntu api website
[15:55] <SonikkuAmerica> You're welcome
[15:55] <jgcampbell300> ok off to do some reading ... thanks again
[15:55] <MangaKaDenza> guise
[15:55] <MangaKaDenza> does anyone know some good free actionscript tools for ubuntu?
[15:55] <bubbly193> on ubuntu developer
[15:55] <bubbly193> http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/platform/api/
[15:56] <YokoBR> Hi guys, my dns isnt working after upsgrading to 12.04
[15:56] <Rory> bubbly193: I would suggest #ubuntu-devel
[15:56] <Pici> bubbly193: I'd start with #ubuntu-app-devel
[15:56] <Rory> bubbly193: Pici is probably more correct
[15:59] <ActionPa1snip> YokoBR: dns server or client?
[15:59] <pip__> is ubiquity in 13.10 still freezing?
[16:00] <SonikkuAmerica> !crosspost | pip__
[16:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Also, that's a question for #ubuntu+1
[16:01] <pip__> duh -yes it is my bad, also sorry for crosspost - I only tried it in Lubuntu
[16:11] <Peldan> Okay, I installed ubuntu to my new laptop yesterday and I want to optirun (I have a GT 650M GPU) dota 2. I don't know how to do it though.
[16:11] <Peldan> "optirun steam" etc works fine
[16:11] <Peldan> but "optirun dota_linux" doesn't work
[16:11] <Peldan> help a noob
[16:13] <PeterCassetta> Hey, Peldan, have you installed bumblebee?
[16:13] <Peldan> Yeah, otherwise optirun wouldn't work with steam right?
[16:14] <PeterCassetta> Yeah.
[16:14] <PeterCassetta> I have bumblebee on my laptop.
[16:14] <Peldan> Okay, but you can't explain why "optirun dota_linux" doesn't work?
[16:14] <MangaKaDenza> hurk
[16:14] <Peldan> :/
[16:15] <MangaKaDenza> anyone got any ideas for ActionScript/Flash IDE's for ubuntu?
[16:15] <MangaKaDenza> that are free?
[16:15] <SonikkuAmerica> MangaKaDenza: Does NetBeans do that?
[16:15] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: What is dota_linux?
[16:15] <PeterCassetta> A Steam game?
[16:15] <Peldan> Yeah
[16:15] <Peldan> Dota 2
[16:15] <Peldan> in steam
[16:16] <PeterCassetta> So it runs fine if you just run "dota_linux", I assume?
[16:16] <Peldan> It says "file not found"
[16:16] <Peldan> or
[16:17] <Peldan> /usr/bin/vglrun: 303: exec: dota_linux: not found
[16:17] <SonikkuAmerica> DotA is Defense of the Ancirns
[16:17] <SonikkuAmerica> *Ancients
[16:17] <jgcampbell300> SonikkuAmerica, hi again ... do you have any suggestion on what flavor of hipervisor to start with ... i was looking at KVM after reading a few Wiki pages
[16:17] <Peldan> Since optirun firefox and optirun steam works
[16:17] <ActionPa1snip> jgcampbell300: virtualbox is nice and easy
[16:17] <Peldan> I suppose it just doesn't know where to look for the file?
[16:17] <compdoc> jgcampbell300, I like kvm. you having a problem with what youre reading?
[16:17] <SonikkuAmerica> jgcampbell300: Why not VMware or VirtualBox?
[16:18] <bjensen82> when following the guided setup of partitions, it wants to make a swap and a main partition. I thought it was preferred if you had a /var mount point as well..In case eg. logging goes berserk and doesnt bring down the whole system...have things changed since I checked this out a few years ago?
[16:18] <isasha> Quick question: if I create symlinks in a certain directory to various other ones (/media/ and /home/user/ in particular), will I be able to access the entirety of the folders I have linked to over NFS?
[16:18] <jgcampbell300> compdoc, not really ... theres just so many options and i get indeciceve lol ... gota start some where .... as for VMware and VirtualBox im pretty sure those are type 2  and i am looking for type 1 ... or if they could make up there mind type 0
[16:18] <PeterCassetta> Peldan, I would imagine it's something to do with how optirun works. (I seem to remember it running a command as a another user, but I'm not positive about that.)
[16:19] <Peldan> But it SHOULD work?
[16:19] <isasha> I must note that with the permissions I have right now accessing all the files over SMB isn't an issue, it's just too slow
[16:19] <Peldan> How does the command optirun work anyways, does it search my whole computer for the file I am referring to or what? PeterCassetta
[16:19] <compdoc> jgcampbell300, it really depends on your requirments. kvm is better as a server, where virtualbox is better at graphics
[16:19] <jgcampbell300> I am sure i dont have a full understanding of it yet so i guess i just need to pick one or two and start building to see some results ... or maybe find a you tube videos
[16:20] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: It looks for the file "dota_linux" in your $PATH.
[16:20] <PeterCassetta> Which can be different for different users.
[16:21] <jgcampbell300> compdoc, well i have 4 2950's in my dev lab i have access to ... one of them i want to replace my desktop with and have plenty of guest os's ... the other 3 will be loaded with server based stuff
[16:21] <YokoBR> Guys, please, my dns service is not working
[16:21] <Beast-> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[16:21] <Rory> How do I cd into a directory that starts with a "-" character? I even tried escaping with a \ but I still get invalid argument, how do I escape it?
[16:21] <compdoc> jgcampbell300, unless theyve changed it, virtualbox doesnt load VMs automatically at boot.
[16:21] <designbybeck_> I have a brand new HP 2000 laptop AMD 4GB RAM with Windows 8, I went and disabled Secure boot, andchangeed the boot order. 1304 64bit does start booting and then the whole system shuts down
[16:21] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: Run "echo $PATH"; it'll output the value of your $PATH variable to the terminal.
[16:21] <Peldan> Thing is, I installed both firefox and steam etc at the same time, and they both work. Then I installed dota_linux and it doesn't work with optirun so the most logical thing I can think of is that it just can't find the file
[16:22] <designbybeck_> This laptop is going to Africa at the end of the week! I was hoping to have a dual booting system
[16:22] <Peldan> Thanks, PeterCassetta! Will try putting it there
[16:22] <compdoc> jgcampbell300, I think VB is more for personal use
[16:22] <designbybeck_> I didn't want to setup the Windows8 side, because I want the other person to do that
[16:22] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: Just adding "dota_linux" to your path wouldn't do anything.
[16:22] <jgcampbell300> ya ... I really want to stay away from type 2 ... i would like to save as much resources as i can for the accual immages insted of the host os
[16:23] <YokoBR> Im having some sort of a problem with resolv.conf
[16:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Rory: use double quotes and no \'s
[16:23] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: If you can find the folders in your $PATH, you should be able to locate the "dota_linux" file.
[16:23] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: I mean placing for an example dota_linux into usr/games/
[16:23] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: all right, calm down...
[16:23] <designbybeck_> ;)
[16:24] <YokoBR> :(
[16:24] <designbybeck_> I had another guy with almost the same HP2000 laptop, but he didn't want to keep windows so we didn't worry about this. I don't know if this is a hardware issue or not SonikkuAmerica
[16:24] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: What do you mean, first off, by changing the boot order?
[16:24] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: so that it booted from the USB and not the main harddrive
[16:25] <YokoBR> Guys, ive upgraded from 10.04 server to 12.04, everything looks fine but dns
[16:25] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: The main thing that you need to do is find the absolute path of the "dota_linux" file, so you can then try running something like "optirun /full/path/to/dota_linux".
[16:25] <Beast-> designbybeck, that can be arainged in the bios, afaik
[16:25] <PeterCassetta> So Peldan, you basically need to find the dota_linux file on your hard drive.
[16:25] <jgcampbell300> I do have access to 15 slightly older servers .... I guess i could look more twards building some form of cloud system for the servers
[16:25] <designbybeck_> yes Beast- I did do that and I did boot, but the whole computer shuts down while trying to boot Uubntu
[16:25] <designbybeck_> i can see the Ubuntu boot screen
[16:26] <ses1984> hi, i just installed ubuntu 12.04 desktop and i was going to download and install oracle virtualbox. so i go to the site, and it says the site has an invalid security certificate
[16:26] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: I did, and it gave me this now "/usr/local/games/dota_linux: error while loading shared libraries: libtcmalloc_minimal.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:26] <Peldan> "
[16:26] <Beast-> designbybeck_, sorry, just joined the channel
[16:26] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: You don't do that with UEFI... Do this instead: Change the BIOS boot order back, let it boot into Windows, choose the power menu and hold SHIFT and click Resta4t...
[16:26] <SonikkuAmerica> *Restart
[16:26] <ses1984> i think this would be pretty unusual for a big company like oracle to have an invalid cert. the details of the cert say it's issued by verisign and expires in 2014...so it should be valid right?
[16:26] <shyaam_> i need help compiling libmirage
[16:27] <ses1984> firefox says that the error is "sec_error_unknown_issuer" so does my ubuntu install not trust any certs from verisign?
[16:27] <ses1984> http://i.imgur.com/kHw8QZn.png this is what i see
[16:27] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  I was tryingto avoid setting up the Win8 stuff, this is a brand new system and it has never booted Windows
[16:28] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: You should get a menu that has like 6 options in it; select Choose a device, and select you Live media.
[16:28] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  you lost me on that one
[16:28] <designbybeck_> I'm burning a DVD right now to try that route instead of the USB
[16:28] <YokoBR> Plse guys :(
[16:28] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: OK... Go change the boot order back to what it was originally.
[16:29] <designbybeck_> ok
[16:29] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: Just to be clear, running only "dota_linux" works fine, right?
[16:29] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Then, boot into Windows, but don't log on.
[16:29] <YokoBR> Omg
[16:29] <Silverrod> #india
[16:30] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: No, it seems to be something else wrong now. Only putting "dota_linux" gives me the same error
[16:30] <YokoBR> Guys pls
[16:30] <SonikkuAmerica> !patience | YokoBR:
[16:30] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: I never even went past the HP/Welcome to your new computer using Windows 8 EULA.... but I just go ahead and go into all that?
[16:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Go ahead and follow the initial setup.
[16:31] <ses1984> is there a reason why my fresh vanilla 12.04 install doesn't trust the ssl certificate for virtualbox.org from verisign?
[16:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Then when the Start screen appears, bring up the charms menu and click Settings.
[16:31] <vivid> ses1984, on the web? or their package repository
[16:31] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: ^
[16:31] <ses1984> web
[16:31] <YokoBR> Plseee, my dns isnt working
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> ses1984: either your time is off, or their cert may have experired
[16:31] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: It is however still possible to just run it from the Steam client
[16:32] <ses1984> i'm trying to visit www.virtualbox.org in firefox and it's complaining about sec_error_unknown_issuer
[16:32] <Beast-> YokoBR, patience. What exactly isnt working
[16:32] <ses1984> my time seems correct in the OS but i don't know if ssl verification is done with system time that might be wrong?
[16:32] <ses1984> i mean the time looks correct to me in the gui
[16:32] <ses1984> the cert expires in 371 days
[16:33] <YokoBR> Beast-, the dns service. Ive upgraded to 12.04, and done dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf
[16:33] <YokoBR> But still isnt working
[16:33] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: Is there a launcher for Dota 2 in your dash?
[16:33] <nightdrever> in update manager there is an update for webcam studio but i cant select it?
[16:33] <ses1984> the command "date" has this output, so it looks like my time is correct, right?: Tue Oct 15 12:33:28 EDT 2013
[16:34] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: No
[16:34] <PeterCassetta> Only for Steam?
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> sis1984: i'm getting the same error on firefox only; i think their server is misconfigured
[16:34] <designbybeck_> @(#*$*(@ I HATE WINDOWS! I don't want to connect to the internet! They don't have Internet where this laptop is going anway!
[16:34] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: Yeah
[16:34] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: So once you see the Start screen, open the Charms menu and click Settings.
[16:34] <designbybeck_> *deep breath*
[16:35] <designbybeck_> I don't know how to pass this setup SonikkuAmerica
[16:35] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: What does it say?
[16:35] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: What happens if you run "optirun steam", then start the game from within Steam?
[16:36] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  it is on the first startup setup, asking me to connect to Wireless and it shows wireless connections
[16:36] <designbybeck_> there is no skip or next on this page, only Connect
[16:36] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: There should be a link that says I don't want to connect now or I want to connect later
[16:37] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  I'm not seeing it
[16:37] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: Damn.. It doesn't launch
[16:37] <Peldan> or well first try it launched and showed the intro logo, but then just closed
[16:37] <Peldan> now it doesn't launch
[16:37] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: Well, I did some Googling, and found this: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6316-GJKC-7437
[16:37] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Hmmm... you don't know any of the networks around?
[16:37] <PeterCassetta> Looks to be what you need.
[16:38] <PeterCassetta> Peldan, also http://askubuntu.com/questions/256431/play-steam-games-with-nvidia-optimus-laptop
[16:38] <designbybeck_> I do but I don't want to connect! why do I have to let Micro$oft check in on this laptop while I'm trying to install Ubuntu
[16:38] <TauNeutrino> hey gays
[16:38] <Peldan> "Valve recommends using primusrun for running Steam games on the NVIDIA GPU."
[16:38] <YokoBR> Omg.... Please, my dns is not working
[16:39] <frew> hey guys, for some reason certain dkms modules don't reinstall when I update my kernel but others (such as nvidia) do, odes anyone know an easy way to fix this or what I may have done wrong for it not to work?
[16:39] <MangaKaDenza> yokel, have you tried rebooting?
[16:39] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=60805
[16:39] <frew> (the modules are spl-dkms and zfs-dkms)
[16:39] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: It seems to tie into Bumblebee; worth a try.
[16:39]  * TauNeutrino hands out some cookies
[16:39] <Peldan> Yeah, trying it now PeterCassetta
[16:39] <Peldan> thanks!
[16:39] <TauNeutrino> :)
[16:40] <aFeijo> folks, I downloaded a .mp4 file but it play without audio?
[16:40] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Click <Connect to a wireless network later>
[16:40] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: No problem; let me know how it goes!
[16:40] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Down near the bottom
[16:40] <TauNeutrino> hey, may I troll?? :)
[16:41] <SonikkuAmerica> TauNeutrino: lol
[16:41] <YokoBR> Please guys, my dns is not working
[16:41] <TauNeutrino> ^^
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> !details | yokobr
[16:41] <TauNeutrino> dns not working? don't fuck around
[16:41] <andryyy387> any further ideas for ssd except for discard and no atimes?
[16:41] <Pici> TauNeutrino: Knock it off.
[16:41] <TauNeutrino> oh that was dna sry
[16:42] <andryyy387> (ext4)
[16:42] <YokoBR> Ive already said, but again
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> !details | YokoBR
[16:42] <ansu> I just create a public/private keypair with ssh-keygen -t rsa -f <myusername> and appended the public key part on my root servers authorized_keys file. but for some reason the ssh client on my local machine (macbook air) does only look for a file named id_rsa
[16:42] <YokoBR> Ive upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04
[16:42] <fishcooker> im using this intel pro wireless 4965 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6241292/ ..  i want to make this as AP but this information that i get https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_wireless_drivers#Driver_capabilities.. my driver that i use 'iwlagn' doesn't support the AP mode. is my hardware can be used as AP?
[16:42] <YokoBR> There was a problem with resolv.conf symlink
[16:43] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: Dota2 launched successfully using "primusrun %command% in launch options.
[16:43] <Peldan> Thank you very much
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  keep it one line please, it's easier to read and repeat, in case you have to wait a long time
[16:43] <YokoBR> On askubuntu they said to run dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf
[16:43] <SonikkuAmerica> YokoBR: Was your resolv.conf backed up somewhere?
[16:43] <YokoBR> Yep
[16:44] <andryyy387> did 10.04 already use dnsmasqß
[16:44] <andryyy387> ?
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> SonikkuAmerica: resolv.conf is rebuilt on every boot
[16:44] <YokoBR> Im on a smartphone, its hard to type
[16:44] <compdoc> andryyy387, thats all I use in fstab:    UUID=blah-blah-blah /Vertex2  ext4  discard,noatime,errors=remount-ro  0  2
[16:44] <andryyy387> thanks, i put nodiratime, too ... but i think noatime fits diratimes as well
[16:44] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  it is going through the last statges of seting up win8
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> yokobr: what is the output of: ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[16:45] <venkatn> 3
[16:45] <designbybeck_> and making me ill in the process! ;)
[16:45] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: You're welcome! Glad I could help. :)
[16:45] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: OK, when the Start screen appears, bring up the Charms menu and click or touch Settings.
[16:46] <YokoBR>  /etc/resolv.conf
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> YokoBR: please pase the exact result
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> paste*
[16:46] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: uh oh... this just turned off! when it said getting your computer ready! Like maybe the issue is hardware issues!
[16:47] <YokoBR> -rwxrwxrwx root root 294 out 15 13:38 /etc/resolv.conf
[16:47] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: It turned off...? Was it plugged in?
[16:48] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  no still plugged in didn't touch it just heard it shut down harshly and went black
[16:48] <designbybeck_> I did just booted back up SonikkuAmerica and at the login i guess this page is
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  paste this line in a terminal       sudo apt-get install pastebinit;cat /etc/resolv.conf|pastebinit        then paste the url here
[16:48] <PeterCassetta> Does anyone know where I can ask about getting certain universe packages updated?
[16:49] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: You might want to ask in ##hardware about that abrupt shutdown...
[16:49] <compdoc> PeterCassetta, maybe the dev channel or mailing list
[16:49] <andryyy387> YokoBR dies does this file contain dns=dnsmasq? > /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> yokobr: what is the output of: ln -s /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[16:49] <andryyy387> 10.04 didnt use dnsmasq
[16:49] <PeterCassetta> compdoc: Do you know the dev channel offhand?
[16:49] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  what are the next steps
[16:49] <genii> YokoBR: /etc/resolv.conf is supposed to be a link to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf   ... if you issue only: mount | grep run    ..does it show a line like: tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)   ?
[16:50] <designbybeck_> How do I open the Charms menu?, DO I need to have my DVD or USB plugged in?
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> yokobr: what is the output of: ls -s /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf     sorry
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> yokobr: what is the output of: ls -l /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf     sorry grr
[16:50] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  I just tested the USB and it booted fine on an older Dell XPS Laptop
[16:50] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: You're at the logon screen, right? click or touch the power button in the lower right, then hold SHIFT and click Restart.
[16:50] <andryyy387> yay
[16:51] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Your older XPS probably doesn't have UEFI,
[16:51] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: correct
[16:51] <designbybeck_> Do I need my USB plguged in SonikkuAmerica?
[16:51] <YokoBR> No such file for ls -l /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[16:51] <compdoc> PeterCassetta, migth try #ubuntu-devel
[16:51] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Yes sir,
[16:52] <andryyy387> anyone running gnome 3.10 on >=13.04 btw?
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  paste this line in a terminal       sudo apt-get install pastebinit;cat /etc/resolv.conf|pastebinit        then paste the url here
[16:52] <designbybeck_> ok SonikkuAmerica I see the Usa Aa Device
[16:52] <SonikkuAmerica> andryyy387: I was at one time
[16:52] <designbybeck_> Use a Device
[16:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Click it
[16:52] <designbybeck_> ok it is rebooting
[16:52] <aFeijo> folks, I downloaded a .mp4 file but it play without audio?
[16:53] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  I'm back to the GRUB Try Ubuntu
[16:53] <Beast-> aFeijo, what are you using to play the file?
[16:53] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: OK, try Ubunti
[16:53] <SonikkuAmerica> *Ubuntu
[16:53] <YokoBR> MonkeyDust, aptget is not working
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  apt-get, not aptget
[16:54] <YokoBR> I dont have internet since i cant resolve names
[16:54] <designbybeck_> dang!!! Same crash SonikkuAmerica
[16:54] <andryyy387> aFeijo, you may try to install package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[16:54] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: As in it abruptly shut off?
[16:54] <designbybeck_> It makes a noise, like the speakers and and everything else glitches and goes black and turns off
[16:54] <designbybeck_> yes SonikkuAmerica
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> yoko what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[16:55] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: That's a hardware issue to be sure... sounds like your motherboard,
[16:55] <designbybeck_> GGRRRRrrr
[16:55] <aFeijo> Beast-, default ubuntu 13.04 player
[16:55] <aFeijo> andryyy387, apt-get told me that I've get it already
[16:56] <Beast-> aFeijo, ok, then try a different player, like VLC
[16:56] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  this lady, one of our nursing faculty just bought this to donate it to one of our hospitals we help out with in Malawi
[16:56] <aFeijo> Beast-, ok
[16:56] <designbybeck_> We're in Texas.... I'm not sure what to do with it!
[16:56] <YokoBR> nameserver 127.0.0.1, nameserver 208.67.222.22, nameserver 208.67.220.220
[16:56] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: What make is it?
[16:57] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: HP 2000 TPN-L108
[16:57] <designbybeck_> not sure if l orL or what
[16:57] <Rory> YokoBR: You don't want that 127.0.0.1 line there
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> YokoBR: can you change the contents to http://paste.ubuntu.com/6241383/  and then restart networking
[16:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh, right. You may want to either take it to a local computer repair place or get it RNA'ed.
[16:58] <SonikkuAmerica> *RMA'ed
[16:58] <aFeijo> Beast-, damn, I cant install vlc... some package conflict
[16:58] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: ^^
[16:58] <andryyy387> really aFeijo? what conflict?
[16:59] <Beast-> thats interesting :S
[16:59] <YokoBR> Mm ok
[16:59] <andryyy387> aFeijo, you may want to try to install:  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:59] <andryyy387> this should install amr decoder files too
[16:59] <designbybeck_> Thank you for your help though SonikkuAmerica
[16:59] <designbybeck_> i'm trying to see if Windows will at least boot up
[16:59] <aFeijo> andryyy387, I have it
[17:00] <andryyy387> and these? sudo apt-get install libavcodec-extra-53 libavdevice-extra-53 libavformat-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51 libpostproc-extra-52 libswscale-extra-2
[17:00] <Beast-> andryyy387, do you still have to do that via terminal, to be able to say yes to some options?
[17:00] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: You're welcome
[17:00] <aFeijo> andryyy387, it say "depend: vlc-nox (...) but wont be installed"
[17:00] <mahender43> hi
[17:02] <mahender43> any body now how to profilling in Android phone using oprofile
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> mahender43  how is that ubuntu related?
[17:03] <mahender43> do u know any chatroom for oprofile
[17:03] <matthias_> Hi there, I'm having a problem exporting the correct Path variables for the java installation I got via apt-get. ls /usr/lib/jvm returns java-1.6.0-openjdk-amd64  java-6-openjdk-common
[17:03] <matthias_> java-6-openjdk-amd64      java-7-openjdk-amd64
[17:04] <andryyy387> Beast-, sorry for the late answer. dont know. :)
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> mahender43 try #android maybe
[17:05] <YokoBR> Removed 127.0.0.1 but still not working
[17:06] <hitsujiTMO> YokoBR: what is the exact contents: please use paste.ubuntu.com
[17:06] <mahender43> thank u
[17:07] <YokoBR> Omg, im on a smartphone
[17:08] <Jimy56> Does anybody knows how to get win7 medias on ubuntu and ubuntu medias on win7?
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> yokobr: can you ping 208.67.222.22    do you get a response?
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  try 208.67.220.220
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  or 208.67.222.222
[17:09] <jdoles> The date command returns an answer which is off by two hours.
[17:09] <jdoles> I mean: "returned".
[17:09] <Modem80> I do not like unity, what version of ubuntu can i use that will look like the old ver of Gnome?
[17:09] <Modem80> Unity sux!
[17:09] <jdoles> It was fixed, but it took like 40 seconds.
[17:09] <cgt> Modem80: Try Xubuntu
[17:09] <andryyy387> cinnamon
[17:09] <cgt> !xubuntu | Modem80
[17:10] <Modem80> thanks
[17:10] <Modem80> but i want gnome
[17:10] <cgt> Modem80: Gnome 2?
[17:10] <andryyy387> then mate
[17:10] <jdoles> Also, my new kernel ... crashed.
[17:10] <YokoBR> Yep, i c ann ping them
[17:10] <andryyy387> mate is like old gnome
[17:10] <Modem80> I think they have made the latest version of ubuntu to complicated
[17:10] <Modem80> the design is horrible
[17:10] <Modem80> the older editions were so much easier to navigate
[17:11] <cgt> Modem80: No need to elaborate on why Unity is horrible.
[17:11] <andryyy387> there are a lot (!) of useful shortcuts, keep super pressed, you see them
[17:11] <Siyfion> Modem80: I dont think it's complex, just non-intuitive
[17:11] <YokoBR> No, i cant anymore
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  time to get used to the new interface!
[17:11] <m3kk> cgt, you got that right
[17:11] <andryyy387> < brbr
[17:11] <gordonjcp> Modem80: Unity is the default, because it's far better than all that horrible old Gnome 2 crap
[17:11] <Siyfion> MonkeyDust: Or switch to cinnamon / XFCE4 / ....
[17:11] <cgt> !offtopic
[17:12] <SonikkuAmerica> cgt: Food call.
[17:12] <Modem80> Why Did they go for the Unity desktop?
[17:12] <SonikkuAmerica> *Good
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Modem80: but if you don't like it, you can always use something else
[17:12] <cgt> compdoc: ?
[17:12] <YokoBR> I cant ping anymore
[17:12] <cgt> oh
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Modem80: because it's the best
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> !notunity | Modem80
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Modem80: it is by far the best desktop environment in any OS
[17:12] <m3kk> gordonjcp, also the slowest i have ever used
[17:12] <Modem80> gordonjcp - what is another alternative u would recomend/?
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Modem80: it's even better than OSX
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Modem80: I wouldn't.  I only recommend Unity
[17:13] <gordonjcp> m3kk: it's more responsive than Gnome 2 on equivalent hardware
[17:13] <m3kk> gordonjcp, you cant mean that on nothing but highend pc?
[17:13] <gordonjcp> m3kk: if it's *really* too slow, try XFCE
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> YokoBR: can you please change the contents of /etc/resolv.conf  to http://paste.ubuntu.com/6241383/    and then restart the networking service
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Modem80: I recommend XFCE or LXDE if you don't want your desktop running slower
[17:13] <gordonjcp> m3kk: it's blindly fast on my 2GHz Core 2 Duo with 1GB
[17:13] <m3kk> gordonjcp, yep that is what im running to be fair. I want o run unity but nooope
[17:13] <m3kk> gordonjcp, nvidia?
[17:13] <gordonjcp> m3kk: it's the best of a bad bunch on my 1.8GHz Celeron with 512MB
[17:13] <gordonjcp> intel...
[17:14] <cgt> Modem80: You could also try the fallback mode in Gnome 3. It is similar to the old Gnome experience.
[17:14] <gordonjcp> m3kk: if you've got NVidia, try the binary drivers
[17:14] <gordonjcp> brb, got to pick someone up off the train
[17:14] <m3kk> gordonjcp, ive got intel e450 with amd hd 6320.. it should be able to run it ?
[17:14] <gordonjcp> m3kk: I'd imagine so
[17:14] <gordonjcp> m3kk: if you're really struggling, toss some more memory in
[17:15] <Modem80> the new ver of 13.04 doesnt even recognize my Wireless card, I have been using ubuntu for the last 5 yrs, and I am so dissapointed by this new release, are any other the older version still supported??
[17:15] <gordonjcp> Modem80: 12.04
[17:15] <cgt> !lts
[17:15] <gordonjcp> Modem80: that's an LTS release
[17:15] <m3kk> gordonjcp, i just tried running liveUSB and it froze and struggle reeaally bad especialy dash. ran liveUSB with xubuntu and i could browse web, softw are center , irc , terminal and it did not flinch.. :S could not run anything in ubuntu. really sad
[17:15] <gordonjcp> Modem80: if you're having problems, instead of whining try filing bugs
[17:16] <gordonjcp> m3kk: strange
[17:16] <Modem80> gordonjcp - does 12.04 include unity?
[17:16] <cgt> Modem80: yes
[17:16] <gordonjcp> Modem80: yes
[17:16] <m3kk> gordonjcp, perhaps unity depend more on activating correct drivers.,. but xfce isnt
[17:16] <cgt> Modem80: But you can install whatever desktop environment you want in any version of ubuntu
[17:16] <gordonjcp> m3kk: no idea
[17:16] <m3kk> gordonjcp,  ok just a thought
[17:16] <Modem80> cgt - i want my desktop to look like the older versions of gnome , will 12.04 look like the older versions?
[17:16] <cgt> Modem80: Not by default
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  then you will never get used to the new desktop
[17:17] <cgt> Modem80: but as I said, you can install whatever desktop environment you want
[17:17] <Modem80> monkeydust- the new desktop looks like a tablet and it sux!
[17:17] <Modem80> :)
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  then use a different, xfce, kde, mxde, something else maybe
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> lxde*
[17:18] <cgt> Modem80: Saying that something "sux" is not productive. I already told you that you can install whatever you want and you've received many suggestions.
[17:19] <m3kk> Modem80, exactly what tablet does it look like?
[17:19] <cgt> !offtopic
[17:20] <quadHelix> I have 3 ubuntu boxes.  When I `ping google.com` 2 of the machines are pinging kidsource.com and the 3rd is pinging 1e100.net.  Any ideas why?
[17:20] <dtcrshr> what would be the most compatible  lightweight ubuntu version for my friends oldschool acer notebook? it gots intel vga onboard
[17:20] <m3kk> !guidelines
[17:20] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: I booted off a DVD, it idnd't crash this time, but only took me to the ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ promte
[17:20] <YokoBR> Got resolvconf error: /etc/resolv.conf isnt a symlink
[17:20] <dtcrshr> the lts version runned, but very slow
[17:20] <m3kk> dtcrshr, xubuntu or lubuntu
[17:20] <Modem80> Is SUse better than ubuntu?
[17:20] <cgt> Modem80: That is subjective
[17:20] <Beast-> are appples better than oranges?
[17:20] <dtcrshr> m3kk: between both, which is the lighter?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  depends on what you like more
[17:21] <Modem80> what do u like?
[17:21] <m3kk> dtcrshr, lubuntu
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: So it booted to a console? Try [ starts ]
[17:21] <dtcrshr> thanks
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> dtcrshr  linuxlite is light and ubuntu based (but not supported here)
[17:21] <m3kk> dtcrshr, but xfce looks nicer.. both are more lightweight than default unity thou
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Or rather, [ startx ]
[17:21] <designbybeck_> yeah
[17:21] <dtcrshr> yeah.. unity is VERY heavy
[17:22] <dtcrshr> comparing to windows 7 that I instlaled double boot
[17:22] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: Fatel server error: no screens found (EE)
[17:22] <m3kk> Strangely on my mother really old laptop it runs unity like a dream
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> YokoBR delete /etc/resolv.conf  and restart networking
[17:22] <Beast-> dtcrshr, its blasphemy, but i found linux mint to be working surprisingly nice on an old netbook of mine (1.2ghz singlecore atom processor)
[17:22] <m3kk> but with my new laptop it cant be run with satisfaction
[17:22] <dtcrshr> Beast-: agree. I pesronally use LMDE
[17:22] <designbybeck_> maybe boot with nomodeset?
[17:22] <Jimy56> Somebody knows how to change weechat layer?
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Try rebooting...
[17:22] <dtcrshr> Beast-: mate desktop is amazingly productive and lightweight
[17:22] <Jimy56> sry bad channel
[17:23] <Modem80> Windows 7 is better than Unity!
[17:23] <m3kk> dtcrshr, i have never tried MATE. its like old gnome2 ?
[17:23] <m3kk> Modem80, Microsoft is better then iPhone!
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  please stop now, we understand that you don't like unity
[17:23] <m3kk> wait...errr
[17:23] <Modem80> sorry
[17:24] <dtcrshr> well kinda. but for multiple desktop and no eye candy its quite nice. Now that some steam games are avaiable, the lest I need is desktop overlays
[17:24] <Modem80> is anyone in here from Texas?
[17:24] <designbybeck_> I am Modem80
[17:24] <dtcrshr> dota2 and tf2 runs like a charm, on the same pc with ubuntu / unity its impossible to play
[17:24] <Modem80> Dallas?
[17:24] <designbybeck_> San Angelo, out west about 5hrs
[17:24]  * Beast- wonders if there is an #ubuntu-dating channel
[17:24] <dtcrshr> m3kk: but theres also cinnamon, a midter between them
[17:25] <Modem80> xubuntu - works great!
[17:25] <m3kk> dtcrshr, cinnamon is a nono for me... runs slow like unity here
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  did you have a ubuntu support question?
[17:25] <dtcrshr> yeah.. too expensive for a little eye candy
[17:25] <dtcrshr> actually seeing both screenshots im on doublt between xubuntu and lubuntu
[17:25] <m3kk> dtcrshr, the menu is lagging behind and has al kind of delays
[17:25] <dtcrshr> xfce seems quite more finished
[17:26] <dtcrshr> ill give xubuntu a try
[17:26] <Beast-> quick question: what can i expect when installing a fresh 13.04 or 13.10 on a SSD? Do i still need to tweak all sorts of settings, or will it just work out of the box?
[17:26] <m3kk> dtcrshr, honeslty i have never tried LXDE, give xubuntu a try with the liveUSB/liveCD and see if it feels snappy enough
[17:27] <dtcrshr> sure m3kk !
[17:27] <m3kk> dtcrshr, if it doesnt.. then create liveUSB with lubuntu and compare =)
[17:27] <limace255> xubuntu roxx
[17:27]  * limace255 using this since some years, good stuff
[17:27] <m3kk> dtcrshr, i craeted liveUSB with xubuntu and it ran FASTER in LIve session then my current Mint  cinnamon did..amazing
[17:27] <m3kk> limace255, +1
[17:28] <limace255> :]
[17:28] <dtcrshr> actually on this acer and another student hp notebook, usb sticks with ubuntu wont boot never... I have some sticks with a bunch of distros settled up with sardu or yumi (gparted, ubcd, clonezilla, etc...) that works fine.. ubuntu keeps asking for something on the way
[17:28] <dtcrshr> I ressurected an old dvdRW to install them up
[17:28] <cac> m3kk, because cinnamon uses OpenGL compositing which will slow down your PC quite a bit
[17:28] <limace255> well, some unuseful spent time with older releases, but since 4.8, perfect
[17:29] <dtcrshr> m3kk: my personal notebook im using lmde + mate, a low latency kernel and bumblebee package, its AWESOME
[17:29] <m3kk> cac, quite a much bit to tell you the truth. that is the way with unity as well? since i use radeon that can be the cause .. drivers
[17:29] <dtcrshr> for instance, on ubuntu unity dota2 give me 18, 20 fps
[17:29] <dtcrshr> with or without bumblebee
[17:29] <dtcrshr> on mint i get 32, 36
[17:29] <cac> m3kk, yes.
[17:29] <m3kk> I have never heard of bumblebee
[17:29] <vooze> I have a little problem with my laptop-screen.. All the white + gray colors are like yellowish.. I have tried with both 13.10 and 12.04.... When the problem is only on the laptop-screen and not when I plug in the my monitor via HDMI, is the problem 100% the screen (like I need to return the laptop) or could it be somthing else? (its the new Intel HD 5200 Iris pro GPU)
[17:29] <cac> m3kk, use open source drivers or catalyst?
[17:30] <dtcrshr> m3kk: its a switcher between nvidia optimus vga and intel sandybridge
[17:30] <m3kk> cac, open source.. catalyst made the OS perform worse actually
[17:30] <cac> yeah
[17:30] <m3kk> dtcrshr, oh!
[17:30] <cac> it's bad with 2D acceleration
[17:30] <dtcrshr> without it its impossible to use the nvidia accelleration
[17:31] <cac> m3kk, I'm excited for Linux 3.12's radeon improvements, but it might take ubuntu forever to adopt that version
[17:31] <cac> m3kk, so if you want better performance you can try fedora
[17:31] <cac> or something else more bleeding edge than ubuntu
[17:31] <chaotic_good> performance?
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> wold it not be better to move the graphics discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[17:31] <chaotic_good> try writing some code that doesnt make machine do a lot of work
[17:32] <chaotic_good> for nothing
[17:32] <vooze> cac: why not just use this? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-rc5-saucy/
[17:32] <chaotic_good> I hate when I gota fart and im at work among 100 people
[17:32] <SonikkuAmerica> !it | Just a reminder
[17:32] <chaotic_good> if want performance
[17:32] <chaotic_good> then code it in ADA forth or C
[17:32] <chaotic_good> :)
[17:32] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Err...
[17:33] <chaotic_good> ok who here is doing iscsi SAN with ubuntu>?
[17:33] <chaotic_good> kbam
[17:33] <dtcrshr> cac, the experimental vga drivers for nvidia or ati are quite bleeding
[17:33] <dtcrshr> you can give a shot up on ubuntu also
[17:34] <m3kk> cac, really? fedora? why is that ?
[17:34] <m3kk> sorry for ot
[17:34] <m3kk> leaving now
[17:35] <m3kk> cac, will you follow me?
[17:35] <cac> m3kk, what?
[17:35] <cac> m3kk, Fedora has more updated packages
[17:36] <cac> Xorg versions, kernel versions, mesa versions, etc.
[17:36] <cac> dtcrshr, the proprietary ones?
[17:36] <cac> AMD proprietary drivers suck.
[17:36] <Ari-Yang> ^
[17:36] <Ari-Yang> indeed
[17:36] <cac> And my card is legacy now. Even if I bought it in 2011.
[17:37] <cac> Going to stick with the open source drivers until I buy a Mac or build a PC with Intel graphics.
[17:37] <Ari-Yang> cac: fglrx has horrible 2d acceleration.... mesa 9.2 or greater, xf86-video-ati 7.2 is on par with fglrx when it comes to gaming
[17:37] <Ari-Yang> this is with open source radeon driver
[17:37] <dtcrshr> cac: the pre-released updates if enabled on your repos will bring up the experimel fglrx
[17:38] <cac> Ari-Yang, not really. I still get terrible fps with openarena on 1080p with mesa.
[17:38] <parasaurolophus> where can i get help with libreoffice writer? it's a simple question about aligning text
[17:38] <IdleOne> cac: All very interesting but nothing to do with ubuntu support. If you feel like chatting please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:38] <cac> Ari-Yang, source games are even worse.
[17:38] <Ari-Yang> I myself run mesa 9.3 xf86-video-ati 7.2...
[17:38] <dtcrshr> cac well, if you like games, run from ingel graphics
[17:38] <Ari-Yang> cac: what mesa version?
[17:38] <Ari-Yang> are you using?
[17:38] <dtcrshr> besides the optimus / intel mashup is quite nice here
[17:39] <cac> dtcrshr, there is no experimental version of fglrx for me. My card is legacy.
[17:39] <IdleOne> Ari-Yang: dtcrshr Please continue the conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this channel free for support only
[17:39] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[17:39] <cac> Ari-Yang, on this box, whatever ubuntu 13.04 comes with
[17:39] <dtcrshr> hmm mine is quite older, I dunno if its legacy.. its hd6790
[17:39] <Ari-Yang> cac: what's the output of glxinfo | grep -i opengl ?
[17:39] <Ari-Yang> it should tell you the mesa version
[17:40] <dtcrshr> sorry IdleOne, ill bail
[17:41] <cac> Ari-Yang, 9.1.4
[17:41] <cac> my netbook which runs openbsd has 9.2, lol.
[17:42] <Ari-Yang> Ari-Yang: ummm yeah, there are a lot of improvements in 9.2 and on... Like I said before, gaming is on par with fglrx... I know some guys who have ditched fglrx and went with mesa 9.2 or 9.3 setup
[17:42] <cac> I ran openbsd on this desktop once, experienced similar if not the same fps with linux when running -current
[17:42] <cac> Ari-Yang, replying to yourself?
[17:42] <Ari-Yang> tab fail
[17:43] <Ari-Yang> *shrugs*
[17:43] <cac> Ari-Yang, gaming is not on par with my box
[17:43] <Ari-Yang> k
[17:43] <cac> source games run terribly
[17:43] <cac> openarena runs terribly
[17:43] <cac> everything is slower with mesa
[17:43] <Ari-Yang> cac: and you're running 7.2 of the radeon driver?
[17:43] <Ari-Yang> cac: and you're using kernel 3.10 or greater?
[17:43] <Ari-Yang> cac: if that's the case, then maybe that's why
[17:43] <cac> phoronix's benchmarks find mesa is very far from being "on par" with fglrx
[17:44] <cac> Ari-Yang, I did on fedora
[17:44] <cac> I'm on xubuntu right now
[17:44] <IdleOne> cac: Ari-Yang Seriously, please take this discussion to PM or #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:44] <Ari-Yang> :K
[17:44] <cac> IdleOne, ok
[17:49] <blz> Hello!  I have a laptop that's not always connected to my home network.  Is there a way to automatically mount my home network's NFS shares only when I'm on said home network?
[17:51] <Mikey^> Hello
[17:51] <blz> What's the best way to go about making a user's files unreadable by users not in his group?
[17:51] <Mikey^> I run Ubuntu 13.04 and when I use skype (with video), sometimes it automatically logs off.
[17:51] <blz> by default it appears that any user can read files from any other user and I'd like that not to be the case
[17:51] <Mikey^> When I dont have video, there is no problem.
[17:51] <limace255> blz : user/group strategy
[17:52] <andry> blz, chmod a-rwx && chown you:you file
[17:52] <minimec_> blz: Change the 'properties' of /home/yourname
[17:52] <andry> chmod a-rwx file && chown you:you file
[17:52] <andry> sorry
[17:52] <Mikey^> I have an AMD onboard graphics card. I have installed the drivers from the AMD website. If I use the drives with ubuntu, I see random lines acorss the screen.
[17:53] <blz> andry can I just apply that to /home/user ?
[17:53] <andry> better not
[17:53] <andry> there are some files that need cross-access
[17:53] <bekks> blz: If you do, you will break things.
[17:53] <blz> bekks, , andry so making one user's files unreadable by other users is a bad idea?
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> blz: that should be chmod o-rwx      not a-rwz
[17:54] <limace255> blz: depends the files you want to "protect"
[17:54] <blz> limace255, pretty much the contents of /home/myuser
[17:54] <andry> the whole $home is a bad idea, i would apply the rules to only some of the folders inside home
[17:55] <blz> andry okay, fair enough
[17:55] <limace255> with the entire /home/user, you'll have some errors, like .gvfs
[17:55] <andry> just chown the folder to you:you (not you:users), then chown a-rwx (=all no read/write/execute)
[17:55] <limace255> the best choice is, like andry said, choose a folder, put the necessary files inside, and apply your strategy
[17:55] <bekks> a-rwx is a bad idea. You dont want others to write things in your home.
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> andry: o-rwx don't you mean
[17:55] <blz> andry I'm not very clear on what that means, actually.  Chown me:me means that the group is changed from `users` to `me` ?
[17:56] <bekks> blz: What do you actually want to do?
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> andry: a-rwx will set a files permissions to ----------
[17:56] <blz> bekks, I just want to make it so that other users can't see the contents of my home folder
[17:56] <limace255> chown means the files will be user's ones
[17:56] <andry> oops ;D sorry, yes, o
[17:57] <limace255> blz: ow, ok
[17:57] <bekks> blz: Then run, as your user: chmod 700 /home/user
[17:57] <andry> 750
[17:57] <bekks> 700.
[17:57] <andry> or 700,
[17:57] <blz> bekks, right that was what I was originally thinkning, but apparently this breaks things?
[17:57] <andry> :P
[17:57] <bekks> Other users shall not see anything, so 700.
[17:57] <andry> yes, if it is you:users
[17:57] <blz> I'm open to suggestions, but I'm a bit overwhelmend!  Everybody is suggesting something different ^^
[17:57] <bekks> blz: a-rwx is the same as 777 which will break things.
[17:57] <blz> *overwhelmed, even
[17:57] <bwayne> blz: listen to bekks
[17:57] <bekks> blz: Run as user: chmod 700 /home/user
[17:58] <andry> no, a+ is 777
[17:58] <blz> bekks, okay, but won't that break things?
[17:58] <andry> haha yes, just chmod 700
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> bekks: a-rwx = 000
[17:58] <bekks> blz: No. It will remove access for others but your user.
[17:58] <limace255> but normally, if you put yourself in a single group, others users won't have access to your /home, I guess
[17:58] <blz> bekks,  and that shouldn't create any problems?  I just want to be double-sure
[17:59] <blz> Sorry if I'm being a pain
[17:59] <bekks> blz: If it does, just run: chmod 750 /home/user
[17:59] <blz> bekks, okay, will do
[18:01] <blz> bekks, limace255 hitsujiTMO, andry, thanks for the help!
[18:01] <blz> Next question:  I have a laptop that's not always connected to my home network.  Is there a way to automatically mount my home network's NFS shares only when I'm on said home network?
[18:01] <andry> i wonder if 700 is fine, you can tell us later, if you want
[18:02] <blz> andry, I'll definitely be back if there are problems =)
[18:02] <bekks> andry: Sure it is fine, unless you want to share contents from your home.
[18:03] <bekks> andry: as a regular user on a multiuser system, you want your home to be private.
[18:03] <andry> there are some configs in there .. but as long as you dont chmod recursive to no group access it should work
[18:03] <andry> yes, but not-readable is a bit more than private
[18:04] <andry> maybe some apps want to read private config files etc
[18:06] <Dudytz> hi all! in ubuntu saucy + gnome 3.10 the changes in the Gnome Tweak (activation of plugins) not persists after a reboot, can anyone tell me if is a know bug?
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> #ubuntu+1 for saucy support Dudytz
[18:08] <bazhang> Dudytz, gnome3.10 from a PPA?
[18:08] <Dudytz> yes
[18:08] <Dudytz> from ppa
[18:08] <Dudytz> ubuntu gnome + gnome 3.10 from ppa
[18:08] <bazhang> Dudytz, contact the PPA maintainer, we dont support PPA
[18:08] <bazhang> that one in particular has multiple warnings, iirc
[18:08] <Dudytz> ok, thanks
[18:14] <yokobr> Guys, please, still no dns
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> !dns
[18:16] <yokobr> Omg.. It was working until i upgraded to 12.04
[18:17] <tgm4883> yokobr, that sounds like a dnsmasq issue
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> yokobr  people come and go, better repeat your inital question, in one single line, for those who just entered
[18:18] <yokobr> Omg... Im on a smartphone, but okay, here we go again
[18:18] <yokobr> Ive upgraded ubhntu to 12.04
[18:19] <yokobr> Now i cant ping anything
[18:19] <tgm4883> yokobr, can't ping anything is completely different than DNS doesn't work
[18:19] <yokobr> Ok
[18:20] <yokobr> I cant ping or open any webpage
[18:20] <Pici> yokobr: can you ping IP addresses? like 4.2.2.1 or 8.8.8.8 ?
[18:22] <yokobr> No
[18:22] <tgm4883> yokobr, can you ping your router?
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> yokobr  what are the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf ? no typos, every character counts
[18:23] <Pici> yokobr: Are you getting an IP addresses on your network adapter?
[18:24] <yokobr> Yep, but i cant ping it
[18:24] <yokobr> Its on dhpc and i mettging 192.168.100.3
[18:25] <anonymous> Всем привет.
[18:26] <DJones> !ru | Guest56612
[18:26] <Guest56612> Who is speak in Russian?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[18:26] <Guest56612> !ru
[18:27] <Pici> yokobr: So you're getting an IP, but you can't ping your router's address either?
[18:29] <oneking> what up kids
[18:29] <oneking> what up kids
[18:29] <oneking> what up kids
[18:29] <oneking> what up kids
[18:29] <FloodBot1> oneking: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:30] <chaotic_good> hows iscsi san from ubnutu?
[18:30] <chaotic_good> reliable?
[18:32] <bekks> chaotic_good: As reliable as you configured it.
[18:34] <chaotic_good> woa thats pretty solid
[18:34] <chaotic_good> cuz ima genius
[18:34] <bekks> yeah, for sure.
[18:34] <genius_blueyes> :)
[18:34] <genius_blueyes> unregulated capitalism
[18:34] <genius_blueyes> conceal caryr guns for all
[18:34] <cgt> !offtopic
[18:35] <Pici> We don't want that crap in #ubuntu-offtopic either.
[18:35] <genius_blueyes> ok ok
[18:35] <genius_blueyes> lets talk iscsi
[18:35] <genius_blueyes> now
[18:35] <genius_blueyes> do you guys not liek reiserfs?
[18:35] <genius_blueyes> and wha tthink of the noop and deadline io scheduler?
[18:36] <bekks> genius_blueyes: Do you have a specific support question. :)
[18:36] <defaultro> hi folks, is there any built-in cpu monitoring task enabled in ubuntu? Would like to know so I don't have to write on
[18:38] <genius_blueyes> yes
[18:38] <genius_blueyes> where is iscsi documented in ubunut 12.04 lts manual?
[18:39] <tgm4883> genius_blueyes, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/iscsi-initiator.html
[18:40] <genii> genius_blueyes: If you were experiencing an issue with iscsi, reiserfs, or scheduler under Ubuntu, then this channel would be where to ask. For more general questions that you're not really having an immediate problem with, #ubuntu-offtopic is more appropriate
[18:42] <Matiesko> ik heb een vraagje
[18:42] <Matiesko> ik heb een vraagje
[18:42] <genius_blueyes> yeah reiser FS deadlinme and iscsi are mostly my forumula I have lvm2 down pat
[18:42] <bekks> !nl | Matiesko
[18:43] <bekks> genius_blueyes: Do you have a specific support question?
[18:44] <Matiesko> hallo?
[18:44] <bekks> Matiesko: This channel is in english. :)
[18:44] <YokoBR_> Ok, now at least i can access irc
[18:44] <YokoBR_> guys, i have a dns problem... some websites are still not loading
[18:45] <genius_blueyes> no no Im reviewing the iscsi doc im good for now
[18:45] <cgt> YokoBR_: Have you tried changing DNS server?
[18:45] <cgt> *resolver
[18:45] <YokoBR_> yep
[18:45] <cgt> YokoBR_: More details please
[18:45] <cgt> !details
[18:46] <cgt> Are you sure it is DNS related?
[18:48] <Matiesko> gaat er nog iemand reageren?
[18:48] <cgt> !nl | Matiesko
[18:49] <tasslehoff> Ubuntu runs great on my retina MBP, but I would like to use 3 and 4-finger gestures for something. Any utils for that?
[18:50] <eihander> anyone know any good softwares for maleware?? My MOBO is talking to me
[18:50] <cgt> !details | eihander
[18:50] <giiker> eihander:  what is it saying to you? ;-)
[18:51] <bekks> giiker: "Neo, I can see you."
[18:51] <eihander> I have a problem with my motherboard, there is someone actually using it to talk to me!
[18:51] <eihander> its the entire computer!!!
[18:51] <bekks> eihander: So what does it say?
[18:51] <giiker> eihander: well, that's not weird, that's actually normal ;-)
[18:51] <eihander> "You piss off everyone"
[18:51] <AlexKaluzhny> JohnGris, Hi, IS is going to contact you shortly
[18:52] <eihander> "You are figuring out that everybody hates you"
[18:52] <eihander> oh ok :-P
[18:52] <cgt> eihander: Are you sure it's coming from the motherboard?
[18:52] <bekks> eihander: Turn off the volume then, in first instance.
[18:52] <giiker> eihander: you r kidding ,right?!
[18:53] <eihander> I don't have sound installed, no internal speaker that I know of, it's a Rampage III
[18:53] <cgt> eihander: probably not the motherboard then
[18:53] <bekks> eihander: If you dont have sound installed, then you would not be able to hear anything.
[18:53] <cgt> maybe someone placed a speaker in your computer
[18:54] <eihander> I'm definitely hearing something, They just said my real name and they're repeating everything I'm typing to you
[18:54] <gdos> how do i restart alsa? or the my audio output hardware? the only device that shows up is the dummy audio device.
[18:54] <giiker> eihander: how often and at what times does it happen?
[18:54] <giiker> how many times a day?
[18:54] <raub> Does anyone know of a mailing list/irc for logrotate?_______________________
[18:55] <eihander> It's been going on all my life, I just recently got back into using Ubuntu.  I was always using Windows 7 to play video games.  I might have upset some people
[18:55] <bekks> raub: If you are using Ubuntu, this is the right channel.
[18:55] <limace255> raub : they're discussing about it on #ubuntu
[18:55] <limace255> oh, #linux
[18:55] <eihander> Trace IP and idk hackers
[18:55] <eihander> rookits
[18:55] <eihander> almost 15+ years
[18:55] <raub> Thanks!
[18:55] <limace255> brucelee has asked questions about logrotate
[18:56] <YokoBR_> the websites loading are still loading too slow
[18:56] <giiker> eihander: oh ok, I thought this was happening now & then, carry on pls,  your mobo has been detected with a extreme case of toraxic talkativis maliciuos!
[18:56] <bekks> YokoBR_: Then its not a DNS issue. DNS is reponsible for resolving their address only.
[18:56] <YokoBR_> some adresses are not resolving
[18:57] <bekks> YokoBR_: did you change the nameserver?
[18:57] <tjj> Can anyone recommend a high-powered laptop that 100% works with ubuntu?
[18:57] <YokoBR_> bekks, yep, i'm using google's now
[18:58] <bekks> !hcl | tjj
[18:58] <fishcooker> i have ubuntu 10.04.4.. i want to install new kernel 3.1 to the system.. how to seamlessly upgrade kernel from 2.6x to 3.1x?
[18:58] <eihander> I'll brb
[18:58] <eihander> talktivis maliciuos!! no bueno!!
[18:58] <eihander> :-)
[18:58] <tjj> bekks: That link is...not super helpful for laptops
[18:58] <bekks> fishcooker: 3.1? Why do you want that kernel? The current one is 3.11.x
[18:58] <gordonjcp> tjj: macbook
[18:59] <fishcooker> i want to get the graphic advantage on cedar platform bekks
[18:59] <sandGorgon> tjj, in general I have found dell to be very compatible. I have also heard great things about thinkpads.
[18:59] <bekks> fishcooker: Whats "cedar platform"?
[19:00] <fishcooker> cedar trail platform
[19:00] <bekks> fishcooker: What is it?
[19:00] <tjj> sandGorgon: Have you had good experience with Alienware boxes? They're made/sold by dell now I think
[19:00] <cgt> tjj: Alienware is for suckers
[19:00] <tjj> cgt why?
[19:00] <fishcooker> cpu thing
[19:01] <bekks> tjj: Too expensive for the hardware offered.
[19:01] <fishcooker> sorry
[19:01] <fishcooker> board thing
[19:01] <fishcooker> from intel i think
[19:01] <`Dooku> guys, I'm going crazy here
[19:01] <sandGorgon> tjj, typically top end graphics hardware seems to have support lag in linux ... other than that, they should be fine
[19:01] <cgt> `Dooku: why?
[19:01] <bekks> fishcooker: Why dont you say "It the Intel Atom processsor platform"?
[19:01] <`Dooku> just installed ubuntu and it sais that its a wrong password of my username when I KNOW its not
[19:01] <tjj> What do you guys recommend for a 17"+ screen + good CPU? I want to do coding on it so I want some power
[19:01] <tgm4883> `Dooku, yea, it probably is
[19:01] <fishcooker> that's it .. i tell you the detail from the manufacturer
[19:01] <limace255> Dooku : checked numlock ?
[19:02] <bekks> fishcooker: you could try a mainline kernel (from the according ppa) - but be aware that it might not work.
[19:02] <fishcooker> that's my consideration
[19:02] <`Dooku> yes I did guys, actually I trid in all this time with the regular numbers not with the nu lock
[19:02] <tjj> bekks: Can you recommend a high-powered laptop that's not for suckers?
[19:02] <raub> bekks, limace255: something like this: http://pastie.org/private/i35za17ohzt70biec3ggw
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> `Dooku, change it or reinstall both are fairly easy.
[19:02] <`Dooku> I mean I am logged on and all now but it did that while trying to apply the updates
[19:02] <fishcooker> this box is running well on 10.04 but not in graphic bekks
[19:02] <fishcooker> it sucks
[19:03] <`Dooku> well that's the thing wilee-nilee it sais its incorrect when I try to change it
[19:03] <bekks> tjj: No, since this is ubuntu support and not ##hardware :)
[19:03] <raub> I think I copied that from my centos test box but in the end of the show I want to do in both ubunut and centos.
[19:03] <bekks> fishcooker: Do you run 10.04 desktop?
[19:03] <fishcooker> nope server
[19:03] <bekks> fishcooker: Then why do you need graphics on a server at all?
[19:03] <limace255> Dooku : azerty/qwerty mode on keyboard ?
[19:03] <tjj> bekks: Yeah, I'm trying to do my research so I don't have to come back and ask for ubuntu support _after_ I spend $2000 :-)
[19:04] <`Dooku> what's that limace255?
[19:04] <gordonjcp> fishcooker: servers tend not to have graphics
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> `Dooku, You may not be doing it correctly or something is broken. How experienced are you with this?
[19:04] <limace255> your keyboard default language
[19:04] <gordonjcp> tjj: just get a macbook
[19:04] <`Dooku> how can I check that limace255?
[19:04] <limace255> english : qwerty
[19:04] <limace255> well, test it on your login prompt
[19:04] <`Dooku> wilee-nilee somehow I figured it out and I got the updates installed
[19:05] <limace255> type azerty, or the first 6 of your keyboard
[19:05] <gordonjcp> tjj: they're the same kind of spec and same kind of build quality as a good Thinkpad, and the same kind of price, but they don't look like they've been milled out of a solid chunk of 1975
[19:05] <tjj> gordonjcp: I was looking at macbooks but it seems like the biggest one is 15"
[19:05] <gordonjcp> tjj: ah, okay
[19:05] <jackarg> hi, when I try to execute "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh" to enable dvd playback, it says wget could not fetch the site packages.medibuntu.org. indeed when I try to access it from the internet it seems down. Do you know what's wrong?
[19:05] <tjj> gordonjcp: I'm really trying to get a 17" or 18"
[19:05] <bekks> jackarg: Look at www.medibuntu.org to see why.
[19:06] <dklps2> hi all
[19:06] <raub> limace255: so #linux was *not* the right place to ask about logrotate
[19:07] <limace255> ok
[19:07] <raub> Where else can I ask about it
[19:07] <bekks> raub: What exactly happens...?
[19:07] <tgm4883> raub, I missed the initial question
[19:07] <limace255> raub : look at tuto about it
[19:07] <raub> As soon as I mentioned rsyslog, the reply was "well, that surely is a rsyslog question. Now scoot after the rsylog room"
[19:07]  * limace255 remember to have found some awesome ones
[19:07] <bekks> raub: You pasted some config but didnt state the problem, correcrt?
[19:08] <tgm4883> raub, who said that, we should probably burn that person
[19:08] <jackarg> bekks, ok, so why can't they update that command? And what am I supposed to do to enable dvd playback? Since this is now obsolete: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[19:08] <tgm4883> jackarg, it's almost as if that is a.... wiki
[19:08] <bekks> jackarg: The site is down. No one cares about what they did in the past. There is no one left who updates packages. Thats called "it is down".
[19:09] <bekks> jackarg: Did you read the full text on their site?
[19:09] <raub> limace255: All the docs I see assume you provide a list of logs related to a given program, logrotate or fail2ban (if its logs are not sent to syslog) or whatever.
[19:09] <raub> So, you have a bunch of log files, say, related to rsyslog. Which are then treated the very same way
[19:10] <raub> What I need is to have some of those log files being treated differently.
[19:10] <gdos> how do i restart my audio output hardware? the only device that shows up is the dummy audio device.
[19:10] <fishcooker> because this box running java apps
[19:10] <fishcooker> gordonjcp: bekks
[19:11] <raub> So, can I have more than one postrotate in the same file? If so, what happens if I tell logrotate to restart rsyslog twice?
[19:11] <jackarg> bekks tgm4883 ok guys stop attacking me here. All I want to know is how do I enable dvd playback now
[19:11] <tgm4883> raub, not sure I understand. You specify the different log files related to a particular program and each can have it's own settings
[19:11] <jackarg> this community is good at putting people down isn't it
[19:12] <bekks> jackarg: I am not attacking you at all. I am telling you whats up with medibuntu, and where to get help regarding their libdvdcss stuff.
[19:12] <raub> tgm4883: take a look at my pastebin, http://pastie.org/private/i35za17ohzt70biec3ggw
[19:12] <bekks> jackarg: If you dont like it, I'll stop it instantly - I am resting your case.
[19:12] <raub> Ignore it is centos because that is the only one I had at hand. Only line that changes is what is under the postrotate
[19:12] <raub> Ok, and some of the log filenames ;0
[19:13] <jackarg> bekks, ok so what is the solution
[19:13] <raub> So, all those log files are created by rsyslog
[19:13] <bekks> jackarg: I am resting your case. I told you what to do.
[19:13] <raub> I want the first 5 to be treated using the default (create a cron.1 file, for instance)
[19:14] <raub> but, for my messages.log file, I want it to be rotated daily and be compressed and do some other stuff.
[19:14] <raub> tgm4883: does it make sense now? I can clean up the pastebin some
[19:18] <designbybeck_> I've tried both Ubuntu 13.04 and LinuxMint 15, they both just go to a command prompt. I've tried nomodeset but that doesn't seem to help .... HP2000 laptop brand new, with Windows 8
[19:20] <designbybeck_> Fatal server error: no screens found (EE)
[19:20] <adamk> designbybeck_: Pastebin the full Xorg log file.
[19:20] <ObrienDave> designbybeck_... did you try the UEFI instructions? http://askubuntu.com/questions/236787/install-ubuntu-next-to-windows-8-uefi-dual-boot
[19:21] <ObrienDave> designbybeck_... or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[19:21] <anonymous_> woow
[19:21] <anonymous_> 'ts awesime
[19:21] <Crockeo> quick question: with the 12.04 LTS Wubi install I can upgrade to the latest release, right?
[19:21] <designbybeck_> not sure how to do that adamk if i cna't get in to copy and paste
[19:22] <adamk> designbybeck_: Use a utility like pastebinit.
[19:22] <adamk> No need to copy and paste.
[19:24] <blz> Hello, I'm trying to share a directory via NFS, along with all of it's subdirectories (and one symlinked subdir).  Here is my /etc/exports file and /etc/fstab file, respectively:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6242014/,   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6242013/   I'm getting `mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.0.14:/export/` when running `sudo mount 192.168.0.14:/export/ test`
[19:24] <blz> what am I doing wrong?
[19:24] <bDUC_> I just started using linux for the first time yesterday. I think I might've broken it. Terminal does not work anymore.
[19:25] <raub> blz: how about sudo mount 192.168.0.14:/ test
[19:26] <blz> raub same issue =/
[19:26] <bDUC_> trying to run gnome-terminal through xterm gives me the error "gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll"
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> Crockeo, wubi is a try out design, per the designer themselves, do you have to use it?
[19:28] <raub> blz: you are doing nvfv4, right?
[19:28] <raub> blz, my exports file is http://pastie.org/private/pibz41sc13vhi5sqpaj6ww
[19:28] <blz> raub, nfs4, yes
[19:28] <raub> did you try using mount.nfs4?
[19:28] <Crockeo> wilee-nilee: I don't /have/ to per se, but I'm not (necessarily) looking for a long-term installation. I'm trying out a Haskell library that doesn't work well on windows and I want to see if it's worth full-on dual booting
[19:28] <bekks> blz: Did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto ?
[19:29] <blz> bekks, yes I did
[19:29] <tozen> bDUC_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libvte9 ??
[19:29] <blz> bekks, it *was* working until earlier today, so I'm not sure what went wrong
[19:29] <designbybeck_> adamk and ObrienDave when I go into BIOS to try to save anything it just crashes and turns off, it does restart. I'm thinking there might be physical problems with this brand new laptop
[19:29] <blz> bekks, I did install and configure fail2ban, but I doubt that's related
[19:30] <ObrienDave> designbybeck_... I seriously doubt a physical problem
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> Crockeo, I would not waste you time with it theoretically you can upgrade it, however it is not strongly supported nor does anyone here really use it. Any OS fully installed can be installed or removed at you whim, wubi is just a file in windows and a waste of time really.
[19:31] <bDUC_> Anybody feel like helping a complete noob to get his terminal started again?
[19:31] <MangaKaDenza> control alt t
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> bDUC_, Since you are new at this you want to learn not to do things you can't fix or reverse.
[19:31] <raub> blz: check if the shares are being seen in the client
[19:32] <Crockeo> wilee-nilee: Alright. I think I'm still gonna waste my time with it, but forego upgrading it. I'll just see if the library works well, if it doesn't then I'll probably just go ahead and uninstall wubi. If it does work well then to the Ubuntu-mobile i go. :)
[19:32] <blz> raub, how so?
[19:32] <bDUC_> wilee-nilee: Fresh install my only way out, eh?
[19:32] <bekks> bDUC_: What did you do that lead to your problem?
[19:32] <designbybeck_> ObrienDave:  it just crashes, you can hear a glitch from the speakers the same time you hear the haddrive park and it turns off
[19:32] <tozen> bDUC_: have you tried what I've said?
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> bDUC_, I reinstalled 3 times in my first 6 months 7 years ago, you choice really, how much time do you want to spend is my motto. ;)
[19:33] <bDUC_> install dependencies for anjuta
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> your*
[19:33] <raub> blz: showmount -e fileserver
[19:33] <JohnGris> logout
[19:33] <designbybeck_> I've had that happen ones when setting up win8 first startup, every time I have tried to boot off USB with Ubuntu and a few times coming out of BIOS
[19:33] <bDUC_> tozen: yeah, does not work
[19:33] <designbybeck_> and just now when I tried to turn it back on, the light comes on for a sec, and then shut off..... I wait a sec and then try again
[19:33] <designbybeck_> it booted back to Win8
[19:34] <arussel> in curl=7.22.0-3ubuntu4.1 what does the 4.1 stand for ?
[19:34] <raub> blz: I take the bind mount works, right?
[19:35] <blz> raub, yeah that part seems to be working
[19:35] <raub> blz: did you do the showmount?
[19:36] <blz> raub, yeah, and I seem to get it there.  Actually it's strange... one of the subdirectories is reachable, but the others aren't =/
[19:36] <bDUC_> "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be save or shared with other applications." is another part of the message. GLib screwed up?
[19:36] <defaultro> do you think guys mpstat 5 is heavy for a busy server?
[19:37] <trism> arussel: ubuntu4.1 is the ubuntu packaging version
[19:37] <defaultro> i want the data to be as granular as possible
[19:37] <Yowl> Does it matter for the sack of LVM whether a partition was made before or after its installation?
[19:37] <Yowl> *sake
[19:37] <trism> arussel: it starts ubuntu1, ubuntu2, etc, and the .1, .2 are usually SRU or security updates
[19:37] <raub> blz: you might have to explicitly export the directory or something. Remember only the root has the fsid=0
[19:37] <raub> See my pastebin example
[19:37] <raub> That's what I use
[19:38] <blz> raub, aaah yeah that might ahve something to do with it ^^
[19:38] <blz> raub,  alright let me play around with that.  Thanks for the tips!
[19:38] <raub> Sure thing
[19:38] <pbx> hello. fresh install of 13.04 on a dell xps 13. running fine... but screen is super-dim and not responding to brightness control panel. i know this is a known issue. how do i fix?
[19:38] <raub> Which reminds me: me /export/logs should only be seen by one machine :)
[19:39] <arussel> trism: does it always goes up, or restart from 0 each time a new version of the app itself is out ?
[19:40] <bDUC_> tozen: I think I might have "sudo make install"'d another version of vte before apt-get install libvte9
[19:40] <trism> arussel: it resets with each new upstream version, or new debian version depending
[19:40] <bDUC_> might this be an issue?
[19:40] <trism> arussel: usually the new upstream version goes into debian, and then we get the debian version which resets the ubuntu versioning scheme
[19:40] <trism> arussel: basically it just counts the patches we have on top of the debian package
[19:41] <Yowl> Does it matter for the sake of LVM  and enhanced data security from resizing partitions, whether a partition was made before or after its installation?
[19:41] <gdos> two part question because i think one is related to the other: 1. how do edit services (which ones start and which ones don't)?  2. my physical audio device has now become my dummy audio device. I followed the instructions here but to no avail (meaning these instructions didn't work for me):   http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/ (i'm thinking my issue is related to JACK)
[19:42] <arussel> trism: so the 4.1 -> 4.2 would be a security update due to a problem on the packaging, not the root app (I'm assuming here that if curl1.1 get a security update, then it will be moved to 1.2)
[19:42] <jdoles> Why do I not have any working audio device?
[19:42] <trism> arussel: no in the case of security updates they are applied as patches to the upstream version, usually backported
[19:42] <raub> Where does network manager store dhcp lease info? Specifically for a wireless connection if it matters
[19:42] <jdoles> In my previous boot, I had working sound.
[19:44] <trism> arussel: occasionally we will get completely new upstream versions to deal with those issues but most of the time not
[19:46] <bDUC_> So nobody with an idea of the problem when I get this while trying to run gnome-terminal from xterm? "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other Applications. gnome-terminal: symbol lookup error: gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll"?
[19:46] <arussel> trism: thanks
[19:47] <genii> raub: /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.<iface-name>.leases
[19:47] <repudiate> What up hood?
[19:47] <necloveksk> i have a problem with my screen after instaling ubuntu 13.04
[19:47] <necloveksk> when i log in
[19:48] <necloveksk> it only shows mouse cursor
[19:48] <necloveksk> on blank screen
[19:48] <EricKit> Hello, I have an issue only after a cold shutdown that does not happen I reboot.  I have put the issues here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/354305/mouse-and-keyboard-dont-work-from-shutdown-do-work-from-restart but noone has been able to help.  Any ideas?  Upvote if you can..it affects several Lenovo users.  I've tried Ubuntu+1 forums as well as searches
[19:49] <gradash> hello, can someone help me with mint 15 ?... i have damn tearing in movies, ATI card, tearing settings ON in catalyst control panel...but anyway glitches.... :(
[19:50] <genii> !mintsupport | gradash
[19:50] <marcelolima> hi
[19:50] <gradash> genii, ubottu, thx
[19:50] <compdoc> EricKit, there was an bios option that prevented usb and networking to start on UEFI systems I've installed ubuntu on. I think one was IOMMU, which I had to disable
[19:51] <EricKit> compdoc: I've searched and toggled almost every option in my BIOS.  Remember it's only on a cold start.  What is IOMMU?
[19:51] <compdoc> its used for VT
[19:51] <compdoc> when youre running VMs
[19:51] <compdoc> not needed otherwise
[19:52] <bDUC_> Can I reinstall gnome-terminal somehow?
[19:52] <ipfaffy> In 12.04, how do you control the number of virtual desktops? Like I want to add 2 more vertically
[19:52] <bDUC_> or get rid of vte all together somehow?
[19:52] <compdoc> EricKit, also, look to see if there are bios updates for your system
[19:52] <EricKit> compdoc: I've run em... thanks!
[19:53] <Yowl> Does it matter for the sake of LVM and enhanced data security from resizing partitions, whether a partition was made before or after its installation?
[19:53] <thumpba> i have 12.04lts fresh install but i have a gpg error when i run apt-get update
[19:53] <bekks> Yowl: No.
[19:53] <jdoles> Why doesn't my audio work?
[19:53] <EricKit> compdoc: Mind upvoting my qustion? I can't find an answer! I've tried everything I can find.
[19:53] <jdoles> lspci shows the card.
[19:53] <jdoles> It used to work before the reboot.
[19:54] <raub> Yowl: encrypting partition?
[19:54] <Yowl> raub: With or without encryption
[19:54] <raub> jdoles: either the space pope decreeded so or we need more info
[19:55] <compdoc> EricKit, how would I do that? dont think I have an account on askubuntu.com
[19:55] <jdoles> raub: I already gave more info.
[19:55] <jdoles> raub: as root I do have sound apparently.
[19:55] <jdoles> raub: but.. I did not change anything.
[19:55] <bDUC_> ls
[19:55] <jackarg> let me try again: how would one enable dvd playback in ubuntu
[19:55] <Yowl> raub: I seem to be unable to install LVM, and am wondering if I can just make the partitions, with say one being encrypted, and install LVM latter, whether the order will matter
[19:55] <raub> Yowl: AFAIK LVM does not care a dingo's kidneys about security. Either way is the same
[19:55] <jackarg> ?
[19:55] <bekks> Yowl: How do you try to "install LVM"?
[19:55] <thumpba> the error is 'E: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[19:56] <raub> Yowl: I have done both
[19:56] <Yowl> bekks: Ubuntu software center
[19:56] <bekks> Yowl: And whats the error you get?
[19:56] <windows> When trying to run a virtualbox, I get "Kernal driver not installed (rc=-1908)". I then install the dkms package and ran vbox as root, but got the same error.
[19:56] <linus> execuse me,  how about black screen after switching users and logging out
[19:56] <bekks> windows: Then install the vbox kernel drivers.
[19:57] <bekks> windows: The error even tells you how to do it.
[19:57] <bluechaos> guys I have a problem !
[19:57] <Yowl> bekks: Failed to download package files: check your internet connection
[19:57] <jdoles> raub: you got your information...
[19:57] <bekks> Yowl: Did you check your internet connection then?
[19:57] <bekks> Yowl: Which ubuntu are you on?
[19:57] <Yowl> bekks: I'm using said internet connection right now, it's fine
[19:57] <windows> bekks: I tried running the command it gave me '/etc/init.d/vbox setup' or whatever it was, but it didn't work
[19:58] <bekks> windows: It tells you why it didnt work, too.
[19:58] <linus> can somebody tell me about  "black screen after switching users and logging out"
[19:58] <Yowl> bekks: 11.10, and I know I need to update it, working on that now
[19:58] <bekks> windows: And you have to use sudo to run that command.
[19:59] <bluechaos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6242221/
[19:59] <jdoles> Do I need to be in the audio group?
[19:59] <tgm4883> Yowl, are you asking why you are having trouble installing LVM in 11.10?
[19:59] <raub> isn't the package lvm2?
[19:59] <blz> I'm still having trouble with my NFS system.  I'm following the NFSv4 tutorial (without kerberos) and I can successfully mount in the client with `sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 192.168.0.14:/ /mnt`, and I see the exported directory within.  However, when I cd into that directory I find that it's empty.   Any ideas?
[20:00] <Yowl> tgm4883: Not exactly, just mentioned I wasn't able to install it when asking about whether it matters if a partition is created before or after installing LVM, then I was asked about what kind of installation problems I was having
[20:00] <windows> bekks: i get a "not found" warning, so change to virtualbox instead of vboxdrv (which does exist in init.d), then it gives me a usage echo, but without the 'setup' method
[20:00] <flan_suse> I am getting the following error message whenever I use apt: "dpkg: error processing procps (--configure)"
[20:00] <bluechaos> guys can u help me ? ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/6242221/ ) ?
[20:00] <tgm4883> Yowl, well 11.10 isn't supported anymore, so I'd imagine you are unable to install it because the repo doesn't exist
[20:00] <zykotick9> blz: you export directories you want from the nfs-server, which typically isn't /...
[20:01] <flan_suse> I cannot get rid of the message about procps, even if I do apt-get upgrade. It wants to "upgrade" nothing, and spits out the same message: "dpkg: error processing procps (--configure)"
[20:01] <blz> zykotick9, sure, but doing `sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 192.168.0.14:/nfs/ /mnt` gives me a similar result
[20:01] <pbx> brightness controls not working on Dell XPS 13 with 13.04. anybody?
[20:01] <blz> namely an empty /mnt
[20:01] <raub> tgm4883: good call, but he can still use the sites that keep old distros
[20:01] <bDUC_> So I found out vte 3.0+ breaks gnome terminal. Installing an earlier version over it doesn't work. How do I get rid of the broken version?
[20:01] <bekks> windows: That will not work, whe randomly changing commands.
[20:01] <Yowl> tgm4883: I figured it might be something like that
[20:02] <blz> FWIF, my /etc/exports now has these two lines:  `/export       192.168.0.0/24(ro,fsid=0,no_subtree_check,async)`  and    `/export/nfs   192.168.0.0/24(ro,crossmnt,insecure,no_subtree_check,async)`
[20:02] <bekks> windows: Uninstall your vbox version, and install the official vbox version from the official vbox website.
[20:02] <windows> bekks: right, then I'm stuck at "no such file"
[20:02] <linus> somebody can help me "http://dpaste.com/hold/1418005/"
[20:02] <zykotick9> blz: what is ".. proto=tcp,port=2049 .." for?  are you sure you need it?
[20:02] <computa_mike> Just thought I'd ask this question (although I may have to dissapear from the keyboard for a bit)...  I'm preparing a presentation for oggcamp, and on one of the slides I'm working on I'd like to put the Bazaar logo, as the slide talks about the use of bazaar for animation scene management.  Do i need any special clearance to use the Bazaar logo on a slide that will talk about Bazaar - I think I'm ok doing that, but it would be
[20:02] <windows> bekks: ok. is the ubuntu store not reliable?
[20:02] <popey> computa_mike: no
[20:02] <blz> zykotick9, I'm just following the tutorial here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto
[20:02] <bekks> windows: I never used it.
[20:02] <blz> zykotick9, should I try mounting differently?
[20:02] <Yowl> tgm4883: Do you concur that it doesn't matter at all if a partition is made before or after installation of LVM?
[20:02] <zykotick9> blz: you wouldn't typically need to export /foo and then /foo/bar... the first will cover the second.
[20:03] <windows> bekks: fair enough
[20:03] <blz> zykotick9, how do you mean?  Sorry, this is all very new to me
[20:03] <zykotick9> blz: i just use "mount IP:/export/dir /foo"
[20:03] <blz> zykotick9, ok let me try that
[20:03] <computa_mike> popey: so I'm
[20:03] <computa_mike> popey: sorry - miss type.  Thanks for clearing that up.  :)
[20:03] <Pici> computa_mike: Its probably fine to you it, but if you want to be sure it would be better to ask in #bzr, not #ubuntu
[20:04] <thumpba> i have a fresh 12.04 install and am getting "'E: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2" when i run apt-get
[20:04] <blz> zykotick9, same problem -- empty mount point
[20:04] <zykotick9> blz: did you restart the nfs server after adding the exports?
[20:04] <Pici> computa_mike: or nevermind ;)
[20:04] <raub> Yowl: the partition for lvm you can create any time
[20:04] <blz> zykotick9, yes
[20:04] <raub> But then you need lvm to do pvcreate :)
[20:04] <zykotick9> blz: are you sure there is something in those directories?
[20:04] <blz> zykotick9,  oh shi- ... i think that might not be an error at all
[20:04] <computa_mike> Pici: thanks
[20:05] <blz> zykotick9, it seems as though my directory is empty, meaning I somehow rm'ed my files =(
[20:06] <Yowl> raub: Just to be clear on your meaning, you're saying it doesn't matter of the partition was made before or after LVM? I thought just perhaps LVM kept track of some data during creation or something
[20:06] <windows> How can I search all installed packages?
[20:06] <bekks> Yowl: Correct. It doesnt matter.
[20:07] <bDUC_> This is driving me nuts. Say I "sudo make install" on vte 0.34 and I want to remove everything it did. What do I do?
[20:07] <raub> Yowl: which partition are we talking about? When I setup lvm I need partition(s) that I will use with it
[20:07] <raub> Then I pvcreate them
[20:08] <raub> vgcreate and then lvcreate the partitions *inside* lvm that I will be providing to the system
[20:08] <bekks> raub: He is trying to install the lvm package and cant do it, because of the server being unreachable currently.
[20:08] <zykotick9> bDUC_: try "sudo make uninstall"
[20:08] <bDUC_> zykotick9: I love you so much <3
[20:09] <Yowl> raub:  I don't understand the question, "which partition" almost sounds like your asking me what I label them or something
[20:09] <flan_suse> Okay, I figured out the problem myself. If anyone is interested. Here was my problem: "I cannot get rid of the message about procps, even if I do apt-get upgrade. It wants to 'upgrade' nothing, and spits out the same message: 'dpkg: error processing procps (--configure)'" Turns out, SpiderOak created an invalid *.conf file under /etc/sysctl.d/. Commenting it out solved my problem.
[20:09] <raub> bekks: unreacheable as in no internet connection or?
[20:09] <bekks> raub: Yes.
[20:09] <zykotick9> bDUC_: in future, look into checkinstall - it creates DEBs from source, for easy removal.
[20:10] <bekks> Yowl: You should fix your internet connectiom first, to actually install the lvm package.
[20:10] <raub> bekks: shouldn't the install iso have lvm?
[20:10] <bekks> raub: Depends on how he installed ubuntu before.
[20:11] <Yowl> bekks: Nothing is wrong with my internet connection. "first, to Install the lvm package" first before?
[20:11] <Querulous> Hey all - I've got a problem installing Ubuntu on an Acer Aspire One laptop that seems to be somewhat common - I disabled the Windows function that prevents third-party OSes from being installed(that thing everyone hates), but now it's just showing me the SYSLINUX/Peter Anvin copyright page and won't go past that. The solutions I see online are telling me to change some things in the installation files, but what to change and how se
[20:11] <bekks> Yowl: You said you have problems installing the lvm package. Did you even check wether it is already installed?
[20:12] <Yowl> bekks It would say it was installed in ubuntu software center, if it were installed
[20:12] <bekks> Yowl: Did you check it?
[20:12] <raub> Yowl: type lvs
[20:13] <raub> if it works chances are you have lvm installed
[20:13] <Yowl> bekks: raub  Not installed
[20:13] <raub> Yowl: you are running ubuntu 11.X, right?
[20:13] <Yowl> raub: Currently, yes
[20:14] <bekks> Yowl: Then you have to fix that problem first. Did you try changing the installation mirror used?
[20:14] <k1l> !eol | Yowl
[20:14] <raub> Yowl: you cannot use the normal ubuntu installation sites
[20:14] <k1l> 11.xx is out of support. no installation of packages possible
[20:14] <Yowl> Well aware people, I wasn't even asking about installing it
[20:15] <raub> Yowl: you need to get the lvm packages, right?
[20:15] <bekks> Yowl: Then why did you try to install it...? :)
[20:15] <Yowl> raub: bekks I thought I would try it
[20:15] <Yowl> That was @ bekks
[20:15] <brian__> Hi there does anyone know much about rhythm box when I place a cd in it does not extract the tracks and find them it just says unknown although I can find the album through musicbrainz the server for rhythm box would anyone have any ideas?
[20:15] <davide> ciao
[20:16] <davide> !list
[20:16] <bekks> Yowl: You should follow the link given by ubottu, for updating your EOL installation.
[20:16] <raub> Yowl: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[20:16] <Guest95353> !list
[20:17] <pbx> thanks ubottu
[20:17] <Querulous> Hey all - I've got a problem installing Ubuntu on an Acer Aspire One laptop that seems to be somewhat common - I disabled the Windows function that prevents third-party OSes from being installed(that thing everyone hates), but now it's just showing me the SYSLINUX/Peter Anvin copyright page and won't go past that. The solutions I see online are telling me to change some things in the installation files, but what to change and how se
[20:17] <k1l> Yowl: 11.xx is not supported anymore. no one can say if its a problem that wasnt already fixed in an update but your system does not get any updates sonce some time. so see the message from the bot
[20:18] <awygle1> hello everyone. i am on precise and trying to install a version of libboost-all-dev which is >1.46. according to packages.ubuntu.com, the default version for that package in precise should be 1.48, but i am seeing it installing 1.46. 1.46 was installed on this machine previously. is that the reason i'm seeing this strange behavior, and if so, how can i fix it?
[20:19] <Yowl> k1l: Well aware, well aware
[20:19] <raub> Yowl: the site I gave you has packages for 11.10. They are the latest there will ever be, but that does not mean they will be updated. But, it should get you going until you can upgrade to 12.04+
[20:20] <bruno_al> info; con la 13.04 non e' piu' possibile vedere le dirette rai?
[20:20] <ObrienDave> !it | bruno_al
[20:20] <Cherian> Hey, novice ubuntu user here, need a bit of help. Is this where I ask for it or is there another page?
[20:20] <OerHeks> !info libboost-all-dev precise
[20:21] <k1l> !details | Cherian
[20:21] <OerHeks> awygle1, did you add any PPA ? that would explain it
[20:21] <awygle1> OerHeks: i believe i've added an sssd backport ppa, but it has nothing to do with boost
[20:21] <ObrienDave> !ask | Cherian
[20:22] <OerHeks> awygle1, maybe, maybe not, it can disturb the dependencies
[20:23] <Querulous> Hey all - I've got a problem installing Ubuntu on an Acer Aspire One laptop that seems to be somewhat common - I disabled the Windows function that prevents third-party OSes from being installed(that thing everyone hates), but now it's just showing me the SYSLINUX/Peter Anvin copyright page and won't go past that. The solutions I see online are telling me to change some things in the installation files, but what to change and how se
[20:23] <Cherian> Right, I just installed 13.04, and I can't seem to get any icons to show. The taskbar right on the top looks really sucky. It looked great on the usb drive, but after the first install it took over two hours to startup and so I forced a restart. Ever since, it's been like this. I've tried the unity --reset option, as well as installing ccsm, but nothing seems to work. I've even installed Cinnamon: it's a little better, but the icons still don't sho
[20:23] <Cherian> w, and the dialog boxes aren't very 'cool'.
[20:25] <k1l> Cherian: you have the proper driver for your video card set up?
[20:26] <Cherian> @k1l I'm not sure. How do I find out? (Quite a noob, sadly :( )
[20:26] <windows> How can I ftp to ftp://ftp.kernel.org/? Getting "Name or service not known"
[20:26] <Cherian> kl: I did look under the propriety drivers thing, and installed my Broadcom driver.
[20:26] <ObrienDave> windows... get rid of the ? at the end of the line
[20:26] <raub> windows: dns issues?
[20:26] <k1l> Cherian: which video card do you have? (chec with lspci)
[20:27] <Cherian> k1l: 00:02.1 "Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[20:27] <Cherian> " Is that it?
[20:28] <ObrienDave> windows... hmm, I got in through file manager
[20:28] <zykotick9> Cherian: if you use "lspci -v | grep -i vga" do you see 2 listed?
[20:28] <jdoles> Do I or do I not need to be in the audio group in order to play audio?
[20:28] <jdoles> I have read the wiki, which says "no".
[20:28] <jdoles> The wiki seems to be wrong.
[20:28] <k1l> Cherian: yes. if its the only video card (if that is not a hybrid combination with a nvidia or ati card). the intel card doesnt need a special driver since its supported with the kernel
[20:28] <jdoles> Or if not wrong, very incomplete.
[20:29] <jdoles> Is there anyone who actually knows what they are doing?
[20:29] <gordonjcp> jdoles: what exactly are you trying to do?
[20:29] <jdoles> Random upgrades of a stable distro like 12.04 LTS should not break all of this stuff.
[20:29] <jdoles> gordonjcp: mplayer foo.wav
[20:29] <gordonjcp> oaky
[20:29] <jdoles> gordonjcp: as a user which is not in the audio group.
[20:29] <k1l> jdoles: you will get support by the volunteers in here if you dont rant or do personal attacks
[20:29] <Cherian> zykotick9: Nope, just "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])"
[20:29] <gordonjcp> why would your user not be in the audio group?
[20:30] <jdoles> k1l: that logic makes no sense.
[20:30] <jdoles> k1l: and skilled people know that, so please just don't mention that spam.
[20:30] <ObrienDave> *no feeding trolls*
[20:30] <jdoles> gordonjcp: because the wiki recommends that.
[20:30] <jdoles> gordonjcp: it's not supposed to be needed.
[20:30] <gordonjcp> jdoles: depends what you're trying to do
[20:30] <gordonjcp> jdoles: are you using pulseaudio?
[20:30] <jdoles> gordonjcp: audio playback via pulse.
[20:31] <jdoles> gordonjcp: yes
[20:31] <zykotick9> Cherian: ok, i just wanted to see if it was hybrid (for the channel, i've got nothin').  best of luck.
[20:31] <raub> jdoles: 1) I barelly work on desktops, so sound and video cards are of no consequence to me. 2) People here are helping you for free; throw them a bit of courtesy
[20:31] <Cherian> k1l: Right, so um.. is there anything I should do? lspci -v | grep -i vga only lists one.
[20:31] <Cherian> zykotick9: No worries :) Thanks
[20:31] <gordonjcp> jdoles: and what happens when you try that?
[20:32] <jdoles> raub: why do you ask a question for more information if you don't know the subject?
[20:32] <k1l> jdoles: since its not the first time this is the last warning to stick to the guidelines. you know the rules
[20:32] <jdoles> gordonjcp: when I run alsamixer, it says no such file or directory.
[20:32] <gordonjcp> jdoles: I'm feeling disinclined to help you, since you can't be civil
[20:32] <gordonjcp> hm
[20:32] <ObrienDave> jdoles... why are you being a jerk to people who are trying to help you for FREE
[20:32] <gordonjcp> jdoles: I'm feeling disinclined to help you, since you can't be civil
[20:32] <jdoles> k1l: are you crazy?
[20:33] <jdoles> I am just asking.
[20:33] <gordonjcp> jdoles: you're being terribly rude
[20:33] <jdoles> k1l: you should go outside someday.
[20:33] <k1l> jdoles: if you cant stick to the guidelines stay out of the channel. if you want to talk about the kick or the rules do that in #ubuntu-ops. stick to support in here
[20:33] <jdoles> gordonjcp: I used to be able to run alsamixer just fine.
[20:33] <jdoles> gordonjcp: without being in the audio group.
[20:34] <gordonjcp> jdoles: that's nice.  I hope you find a solution to your problem.
[20:34] <OerHeks> jdoles your user has to be member of the audio group.
[20:34] <jdoles> gordonjcp: you should be happy that I even spend the time to report this issue and not just install Debian.
[20:34] <jdoles> OerHeks: and why would that be?
[20:34] <gordonjcp> jdoles: makes no difference to me what you run
[20:34] <the_file> are there any sound cards that have drivers provided from the vendor for linux?
[20:35] <gordonjcp> jdoles: why would I be happy or sad or otherwise
[20:35] <kristenbb> how can I run a qt5 app on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[20:35] <jdoles> gordonjcp: if I don't run it, lots of other people also won't.
[20:35] <jdoles> gordonjcp: network effects, etc.
[20:35] <gordonjcp> jdoles: <shrug>
[20:35] <ObrienDave> jdoles... oooo, a legend in your own mind
[20:35] <jdoles> gordonjcp: I represent a group of users with similar decision making processes.
[20:36] <gordonjcp> the_file: not that I know of, although some USB and Firewire devices need firmware uploaded which you generally extract from the Windows drivers
[20:36] <jdoles> If I decide that this kind of brokeness in an LTS is not worth the trouble, others will surely come to the same conclusion.
[20:36] <OerHeks> jdoles, show us the wiki that says otherwise.
[20:36] <jdoles> Nobody likes breakage.
[20:36] <gordonjcp> jdoles: take it to ##someonewhogivesatoss
[20:36] <gordonjcp> jdoles: oh look, the channel is empty
[20:36] <k1l> guys, lets stick to technical support and a warm clima in here. no offences please
[20:37] <ObrienDave> ok, ok *ignores the troll*
[20:37] <jdoles> OerHeks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup
[20:37] <Cherian> So could anyone help me out here? I'm a bit stuck. I've tried reinstalling unity and even installing other environments but the icons never seem to show, and the windows aren't showing very well either.
[20:38] <jdoles> I think you are just pathetic if you defend breakage after installing a new kernel (the latest kernel doesn't work _at_ all).
[20:38] <funkt> Hi there my cd is not showing in the mount folder would anyone know why?
[20:39] <ObrienDave> Cherian... have you tried re-installing from scratch?
[20:39] <pbx> so, i just installed 13.04 on a new dell xps 13 for work.  backlight is off.  ubuntu thinks it's on.  ran apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade successfully. what next?
[20:39] <OerHeks> confusing, my user is member of audio. ( fresh install) so that wiki is outdated.
[20:39] <Cherian> ObrienDave: Well, this is sort of my third install :) Same thing happens every time. The first boot seems to go on forever, I restart, and I'm stuck here.
[20:40] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: my user is *not* a member of the audio group, and sound works just fine for me
[20:40] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: with both pulse and jack
[20:40] <funkt> None of my cds are going into the mount folder
[20:40] <ObrienDave> Cherian... sorry, I'm at a loss...
[20:40] <Cherian> ObrienDave: Most people seem to be :( Sigh. Thanks anyway.
[20:41] <thumpba> do i need to have extras.ubuntu.com as a source for precise...what am i missing by commenting this out, my server keeps failing on apt-get update
[20:42] <OerHeks> funkt, does it show up in /media/ ?
[20:42] <ObrienDave> thumpba... don't see where it would hurt
[20:43] <thumpba> ObrienDave: thanks. i keep getting a gpg error nodata1 nodata2 and can't seem to fix it
[20:43] <dpb1> Hi -- I upgrdaed raring to saucy, and I have some weird behavior, the theme of the panel is wrong, it looks like QT, the dash is missing all lenses (like application even).  What could be going wrong?
[20:44] <ObrienDave> dpb1... saucy support in #ubuntu+1
[20:44] <dpb1> ObrienDave: thx
[20:44] <funkt> No it doesn't I have just found a link it seems that audio cds are different
[20:45] <thumpba> would anyone rec running 13.10 instead of 12.04LTS for production environment
[20:45] <funkt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/102406/how-to-find-mount-point-for-audio-cd-dvd
[20:46] <repudiate> What's good in the hood #Ubuntu?
[20:46] <ObrienDave> 13.10 not officially released yet
[20:46] <raub> thumpba: unless you need the versions of software that are only on 13.X, I would not use it in a server
[20:46] <repudiate> How do I get rid of my unity bar for GNOME?
[20:46] <repudiate> Does anyone know a good and effective way for me to familiarize myself with shell commands?
[20:47] <k1l> repudiate: install gnome-shell or gnome-panel?
[20:47] <repudiate> k1l: Do I have to remove the Unity bar first?
[20:47] <bwayne> repudiate: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[20:47] <repudiate> k1l: Do I have to remove it at all?
[20:47] <repudiate> bwayne: Thanks.
[20:47] <k1l> repudiate: you should consider installing another desktop that suits you more
[20:47] <k1l> !notunity | repudiate
[20:47] <repudiate> k1l: What do you mean?
[20:47] <funkt> It seems that there isn't a filesystem for audio cds?
[20:48] <repudiate> kimphill: Should I opt for KDE instead?
[20:48] <ObrienDave> funkt... audio CDs have their own FS
[20:48] <funkt> not according to that link?
[20:49] <funkt> I dont know
[20:49] <funkt> do you know where the FS is?
[20:50] <k1l> repudiate: no. please see the bots message. there are other gnome based desktops included in the repos, that maybe look more the way oyu like from the start
[20:50] <histo> funkt: what are you trying to do?
[20:51] <funkt> I am trying desperate to rip and tag tracks through puddletag if you have heard of the software and in order to do this I need to import a folder but I cannot find the folder for the audio cd
[20:51] <funkt> does this make sense?
[20:52] <histo> funkt: /dev/cdrom
[20:52] <funkt> Or do you know of any other way if you are familiar with this software?
[20:53] <funkt> there is no such directory on my install histo
[20:53] <histo> funkt: well substitute for whichever dev for your cd
[20:53] <funkt> in ask ubuntu it seems to state "Audio CDs are a bit different - there's no actual filesystem there and as such they can't be mounted. "
[20:54] <histo> funkt: somewhat true
[20:54] <icesword> test
[20:54] <funkt> histo what does that mean?
[20:54] <genii> funkt: Do you have a /dev/sr0 ?
[20:54] <histo> funkt: let me read up on whatever puddletag is hold up
[20:55] <histo> funkt: how are you going to use puddletag to edit tag info on an audio cd?  They aren't mp3s
[20:56] <funkt> I know.... slightly confused histo should I rip the cd first as unknown tracks?
[20:56] <funkt> thanks histo
[20:56] <histo> funkt: yes
[20:56] <funkt> once i have the files you are saying puddletag will then extract the info?
[20:56] <histo> funkt: you need to rip the cd to mp3 or ogg. Then you can use puddletag to edit those files tag information if you want. Although I don't see why you wouldn't just rip them properly in the first place
[20:57] <funkt> the reason is once ripped muzicbrainz is very limited
[20:57] <funkt> which seems to be the default database for a lot of the software
[20:57] <funkt> puddletag seems to have about four diff music databases
[20:58] <raub> A port which is blocked (DROP) in iptables should show up as filtered, right?
[20:58] <histo> funkt: yeah then rip and fix with puddletag if you want.
[20:58] <histo> funkt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[20:58] <funkt> ill try that histo thank you very much for all your help
[20:58] <funkt> thank you histo
[21:00] <cpt_peacock> avond
[21:00] <cpt_peacock> wich languace?
[21:01] <cpt_peacock> nowbody is speaking why ?
[21:02] <k1l> !english | cpt_peacock
[21:02] <ObrienDave> cpt_peacock... you have not asked a question
[21:04] <cpt_peacock> ok i visit by
[21:04] <eihander> Hey all is your Mobo speaking to you? I think mine is hacked...
[21:04] <funkt> histo thank you that works thanks for explaining I just need to work out how to get the track names many thanks!!!
[21:10] <eihander> %t
[21:11] <moontoise> hi guys
[21:11] <wachpwnski> after you add a user with useradd
[21:11] <wachpwnski> how do you set them to use bash?
[21:11] <moontoise> what the best free todo manager for ubuntu, with alarm
[21:11] <wachpwnski> right now I only have $ when I su
[21:11] <eihander> Hey everyone can anyone help me out? I have a computer that is talking to me
[21:11] <eihander> It's saying everything I do... I think the neighbors were hacking my computer.  I'm not sure what I need to do.
[21:12] <wachpwnski> eihander: in your terminal?
[21:12] <eihander> I'm not sure if it is voltage control/manipulation or backdoor trojan . reformatted, fresh install encrypted, it's still failing
[21:12] <moontoise> eihander , are you know jin ?!
[21:13] <eihander> yes
[21:13] <moontoise> the jin in your computer :D
[21:13] <eihander> IDK how this is happening
[21:13] <eihander> jin?
[21:13] <moontoise> yeah
[21:13] <eihander> What is that?
[21:14] <moontoise> eihander, see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn
[21:15] <moontoise> anybody know the best to-do manager with alarm?!! please help
[21:16] <eihander> idk about jinn but i don't think it has to do with my computer
[21:17] <eihander> i have a router, but it's not really helpful any terminal commands to shut out this problem? even with no internet they can still talk to me
[21:17] <wachpwnski> eihander: you are trolling sir...
[21:18] <eihander> I'm sorry I'm really not trolling
[21:18] <wylde> eihander: did you perhaps enable orca unintentionally? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility
[21:19] <wachpwnski> wylde: he is trolling. "I'm not sure if it is voltage control/manipulation or backdoor trojan . reformatted, fresh install encrypted, it's still failing"
[21:19] <wylde> *cough.dontforgetyourmedseither.cough* >.>
[21:19] <raub> eihander: don't know how you setup your router but it could be an attack vector. Don't know which services you are running in your ubuntu box so I do not know if that is being attacked either
[21:20] <raub> You need to get yourself some known quantities
[21:21] <genii> raub: I'm starting to think their assistive technology is turned on and the computer is narrating in case they are blind.
[21:21] <eihander> I haven't enabled Orca, I just installed Debian + Aptitude and a wireless adapter.  It's a fresh install.. I'll check out this "attack vector".  This has been going on for a long time
[21:21] <raub> genii: you are provably right
[21:21] <raub> it would be a great party trick tough
[21:22] <LuvLinuxOS> hi all
[21:22] <auronandace> eihander: this channel deals with ubuntu, not debian
[21:22] <wylde> eihander: If you installed Debian why are you here?
[21:22] <eihander> I am on Ubuntu OS
[21:23] <eihander> how do I change colors and address?
[21:24] <raub> eihander: have someone who knows and you can trust validate your router is not p0wn3d
[21:25] <raub> Do the same in your ubuntu box. And run some kind of firewall. And fail2ban while there
[21:25] <raub> All that assumes someone did break int your machine and is not what genii mentioned
[21:25] <eihander> thanks, I'll look into it.  I used to just use the computer to game alot... think some people took it really to heart lol
[21:26] <eihander> I think they did..
[21:27] <mrkent> I have this proprietary software that was made for redhat and calls libraries like /lib64/libexpat.so.0. Is it possible to be able to use this software on ubuntu?
[21:27] <raub> eihander: if they keep doing it it means they have access to your network
[21:28] <raub> mrkent: chanoces are most of the libraries are also in ubuntu; you just need to identify and download the proper packages
[21:29] <mrkent> raub, how would I match the RH library to a package on ubuntu?
[21:29] <karen_> Hi, my daughter has a site  for audio books that her kids like to listen to, LibreVox.org. They were listening to Jungle Book on two different computers, but when she went to get on her computer with Ubuntu, it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. I've tried it on my Ubuntu too with the same results. There is usually no sound unless you open the sound with Rythmbox. Being we're both kind of new with ubuntu, we want to know if that is n
[21:29] <karen_> ormal or should we download something else? The sound works good with Rythmbox but their pretty colorful screen during the reading sometimes doesn't come up. Are we missing something?
[21:30] <antar> Hi People :)
[21:30] <raub> mrkent: do you know "yum whatprovides" in centos?
[21:30] <veryhappy> hi guys, got some questions abuot voip, is here any voip chan?
[21:31] <antar> #voip
[21:31] <mrkent> raub, no, i haven't used any rpm based distro before
[21:31] <veryhappy> antar: ok, this is pretty useless, 1 user in there
[21:31] <raub> veryhappy: also asterisk has its own site
[21:31] <veryhappy> it's about a softphone
[21:31] <Star-Flower> karen_, at the moment I can't get the site to load
[21:31] <veryhappy> or rather about codecs
[21:32] <antar> veryhappy, sorry i have nt the luck actually :(
[21:32] <karen_> ya sometimes crazy to even load. Maybe it's just a funny site to deal with being it's free and people donate their time to make it work.
[21:32] <veryhappy> antar: it's ok
[21:33] <Star-Flower> probably because its spelled librivox.org not librevox.org
[21:34] <Star-Flower> karen_, which version of ubuntu do you have?
[21:34] <antar> guys i am looking for a good way to become a ubuntu Certified ?
[21:34] <gregor30051> hi, i installed updates and during the updates i had a power failure. now ubuntu can't boot because he didn't find the lvm vg because he didn't opened the encrypted partition. how can i fix it? i went into chroot and finished the updates + updated grub (update-grub) but the problem still persists
[21:34] <raub> mrkent: you need to find out which packages you need to install
[21:34] <karen_> oWELL, sorry    I have Ubuntu 12.04
[21:34] <veryhappy> ok, well i've found a very odd thing in my softphone, a speex codec with a sample rate of 32000 and a bitrate of 0
[21:34] <cappyt> Hi everyone, i have a problem doing a live/installable iso based on my current system. I run 13.04 and i tried using remastersys, but it seems not working anymore... anyone has suggestions?
[21:34] <raub> mrkent: How was that package installed?
[21:34] <Star-Flower> karen_, seems to work well in 13.04, opens and plays just fine
[21:34] <veryhappy> can someone please explain me which is the more important one? sample rate or bitrate? thank you
[21:35] <antar> gregor30051, maybe you can reinstall the grub
[21:35] <gregor30051> antar: ok, i try it
[21:35] <raub> cappyt: try to elaborate on the problem
[21:35] <karen_> really    O.K. ya it does for me too the first one, but try chapter two. please
[21:36] <Star-Flower> I tried several chapters, had to refresh once but it still seems to work just fine
[21:36] <raub> mrkent: ldd might help you identify the libraries you need
[21:37] <mrkent> raub, basically just by unpacking
[21:37] <karen_> hummm  do you see the pretty colors and hear the sound without having to open Rhythmbox?
[21:37] <cappyt> raub i'm very new to this type of things and i don't know how to trubleshoot them, cause the log doesn't show errors (in my opinion)
[21:37] <veryhappy> antar: do you know which codecs are bette?
[21:37] <veryhappy> *better?
[21:37] <mrkent> raub, http://dpaste.com/1418122/
[21:38] <wylde> !info apt-file | mrkent: perhaps look into apt-file.
[21:38] <antar> veryhappy, voice codec
[21:38] <antar> ?
[21:38] <veryhappy> antar: yes
[21:39] <sobocanecben> what's the best channel to discuss pinguy OS?
[21:39] <antar> veryhappy, maybe g 711
[21:39] <Star-Flower> well for me it just shows an mp3 file, not any colors or video
[21:40] <genii> sobocanecben: Probably #pinguyos
[21:40] <karen_> I don't understand mp3 file. I thought I checked that box at the beginning when I started my clean install.
[21:41] <karen_> just so you know, i'm still trying to learn Linux.
[21:41] <veryhappy> well i've got here "g722, speex 32khz, pcma, pcmu, speex 16khz, gsm and speex 8khz
[21:41] <rangergord> Hi. I don't have Ubuntu yet, but have a question. If I get Ubuntu, is there a way to have icons in the taskbar also show the labels. Eg instead of (or in addition to) a random picture of some app I'm unfamiliar with, show the text "ApplicationX".
[21:41] <antar> g722
[21:41] <veryhappy> is the highest in my priority
[21:41] <blarghl> Hi all. In 13.10, how do I swap the win/cmd and alt keys? Everywhere references a now-nonexistant option in Keyboard Settings...
[21:41] <Star-Flower> karen_, thats fine I remember being new too
[21:42] <rangergord> blarghl: how did you get 13.10? It comes out in 2 days.
[21:42] <veryhappy> antar: could you try to sort them for me? if possible?
[21:42] <Star-Flower> karen_, you can press ctrl+alt+t and then type in sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and press enter to see if mp3 support has been installed
[21:42] <veryhappy> blarghl: should be under keyboard settings?
[21:42] <pupdog> does anyone play path of exile on ubuntu????
[21:42] <ADP4U> no
[21:42] <blarghl> rangergord: final beta has been around for ages...
[21:42] <antar> veryhappy, i am not good of sorting :(
[21:42] <blarghl> veryhappy: it's not, that's the issue.
[21:43] <rangergord> ah, beta
[21:43] <Syme> Hey all - I've got a problem installing Ubuntu on an Acer Aspire One laptop that seems to be somewhat common - I disabled the Windows function that prevents third-party OSes from being installed(that thing everyone hates), but now it's just showing me the SYSLINUX/Peter Anvin copyright page and won't go past that. The solutions I see online are telling me to change some things in the installation files, but what to change and how seems t
[21:43] <veryhappy> antar: what's the thing to give importance on? sample rate or bitrate?
[21:43] <karen_> o.k. I'm going to try that right now.
[21:44] <veryhappy> Syme: what's your actual problem now? you don't get further in an installation?
[21:44] <blarghl> veryhappy: looks like they removed that option, no idea why.
[21:45] <metadave> is there a libiconv package for Ubuntu 13.04?
[21:45] <Syme> Yeah, I tell it to load from the USB stick, it goes to the SYSLINUX / Peter Anvin et al. copyright page, then it just stops.
[21:45] <veryhappy> blarghl: the only thing i recall about swapping was in keyboard settings in ubuntu
[21:45] <rangergord> I don't think I will mind Unity, but I'm not good with remembering icons, and prefer to rely on text. Will I have that option somehow, without using an alternative Ubuntu distro?
[21:45] <rangergord> I don't care if there's icon+text (like in the past), but icons alone are useless to me
[21:46] <Syme> According to my internet lurking I'm supposed to mess around with installation files in folders like isolinux but it seems to depend on a lot so I'm wondering what I do for a laptop like the one I have
[21:46] <mrkent> wylde, ubottu apt-file is similar to apt-cache search?
[21:46] <veryhappy> Syme: 2 ways to install from usb - usb loadlin or dd if=/path/to/source of=/path/to/destination
[21:47] <karen_> o.k. when I put that command in, a bunch of stuff was installed and a few things uninstalled. I didn't see anything about mp3 yet.
[21:47] <wylde> mrkent: Yes but it will tell you what packages include specific files. After it's installed you use it like 'sudo apt-file update; apt-file find foo.so.1'
[21:48] <Syme> I don't mean to give the impression I'm not an idiot just because I use big fancy words like "isolinux" and "installation files", haha :p - all of this is kind of Greek to me
[21:48] <Syme> So I need to change some text in some file, I assume, to specify a destination or something?
[21:48] <veryhappy> Syme: i don't suppose you're an ideot. all i need are just further informations.
[21:48] <Syme> I'm just kidding, haha - but really, I am pretty lost here, that's all
[21:49] <mrkent> wylde, i see, cool thanks
[21:49] <veryhappy> Syme: what do you want to install for a version?
[21:49] <hewhomust> Syme do you want dualboot?
[21:49] <Infandum> I am booting into the liveusb and the wifi is not working. I have the error that my hard switch is on so I can't get wifi to work. I tried ubuntu 13.10 and now I'm trying Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 and I have the same problem. There is no hardware switch. I tried turning wifi on and off in the bios but that did not work. I tried the rfkill stuff and that did not work. Any suggestions?
[21:49] <Syme> Wel I think I have 13.04 Ubuntu on this Kingston DataTraveler USB stick. The laptop I
[21:49] <veryhappy> Syme: ok
[21:49] <Syme> 'm trying to install to is totally blank, no OS. I'm typing all this from a different laptop
[21:49] <veryhappy> hewhomust: i don't think that's important on this step now.
[21:49] <Syme> So no, not dualboot, just want to put ubuntu right onto the other laptop by itself
[21:50] <veryhappy> Syme: do you have some kind of linux there?
[21:50] <hewhomust> veryhappy,  you can change the partitioning table if its in gpt to mbr much easier
[21:50] <veryhappy> hewhomust: didn't know that. thanks for the information.
[21:50] <Syme> The laptop I'm typing on and looking at the files in the USB from is running kubuntu, yeah
[21:50] <Syme> The one I'm trying to install ubuntu 13 onto is all blank, no OS of any kind
[21:51] <Syme> And again, the blank laptop is an Acer Aspire One
[21:51] <veryhappy> Syme: ok, that should be pretty easy if you try dd if of
[21:51] <karen_> So, Star-Flower, is there anything more I should do?
[21:51] <Syme> Try dd? How do you mean?
[21:51] <veryhappy> Syme: i'm using an acer aspire 6930g
[21:52] <veryhappy> dd stands for disk dump
[21:52] <veryhappy> it's a terminal program
[21:52] <Syme> Okay
[21:52] <Syme> So, step by step, what do I do here
[21:52] <mrkent> wylde, so I ran apt-file find libexpat.so.0 which returned nothing
[21:53] <veryhappy> Syme: you can use it like this: dd if=/path/to/image (must be iso afaik) of=/path/to/usb stick (like /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc)
[21:53] <veryhappy> and then you press enter
[21:53] <karen_> Where do i find mp3    -    in restricted extras? Where's that? or is it in there already?
[21:53] <mrkent> and I already have a libexpat as a default package, but it seems that it doesn't provide same files
[21:53] <veryhappy> karen_: if you want to install an mp3 codec, better install vlc it comes with most useful codecs.
[21:53] <Warp4> karen_, you mean something to play MP3s?
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> karen_: to play a mp3?
[21:54] <OerHeks> !find libexpat
[21:54] <Warp4> karakedi, what veryhappy said
[21:54] <mrkent> Does redhat and ubuntu have same file paths for libraries?
[21:54] <Yowl> I was told 	dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/<device> for using urandom on a partition, could "<device>" be the label I gave said partition?
[21:54] <Syme> I'm confused - do I type that into the terminal here or is that something I do within the Ubuntu installation files?
[21:54] <veryhappy> Syme: into the terminal, right
[21:54] <mrkent> OerHeks, ya I have libexpat1
[21:55] <wylde> mrkent: In that case you may have to resort to google, and since you're trying to satisy dependencies from a proprietary program from another distro you may end up having to get the source and compile some of the dependencies.
[21:55] <mustmodify> something's fuzzy in my head. If you want to split your logs weekly, so that you had some.20130929.log, some.20131006.log, some.20131013.log, etc., is that called truncation or something else?
[21:55] <wylde> "dependencies source"
[21:56] <mrkent> i see
[21:56] <karen_> well, I wanted to successfully listen to audio books on LibriVox.org, but for some of the chapters there was no sound until I opened it with Rhythmbox, so, Star-flower said to go to command line and get restricted extras which I did. it download a bunch of things and uninstalled a few things, but I don't know what to do now.
[21:56] <veryhappy> Syme: if you want to be done faster do better "nice -n -20 dd if=/path/to/image of=/path/to/stick obs=1G bs=1G
[21:56] <veryhappy> Syme: that should do faster
[21:56] <Syme> So I just copy paste what you just put there into the terminal?
[21:57] <veryhappy> Syme: you'll have to modify if= and of= options anyway
[21:57] <Syme> I'm not sure what to modify them to
[21:57] <veryhappy> Syme: the path to your image after if= and the path to your stick after of=
[21:58] <Crazyzurfer> my ubuntu is asking to update, I tell it to do it... after asking my password it says that installation of untrusted packages must be installed, I tell it "accept" but it seems to not work, because some time later it asks to update the same packages
[21:58] <Syme> Ah I see
[21:58] <veryhappy> brb guys please support Syme if he still has some questions thanks
[21:58] <Syme> Thank you, I'll work on it now
[21:58] <karen_> So, I need vlc?  is that in software?
[21:59] <rangergord> karen_: it was the last time I used Ubuntu (2008)
[21:59] <rangergord> should still be there
[22:00] <mustmodify> something's fuzzy in my head. If you want to split your logs weekly, so that you had some.20130929.log, some.20131006.log, some.20131013.log, etc., is that called truncation or something else?
[22:00] <karen_> O.K. I'll try that. Do you think that will help on that audio book site for the sound and video?
[22:01] <Syme> Alright, separate problem, my terminal doesn't seem to be working. I type, and no words appear - this is in Xfce. It's my friend's laptop, I'm not sure how things work here.
[22:01] <cappyt> If someone can help me, i have a problem using remastersys to get a installable ISO/live CD based on my current install. Here is my log: http://goo.gl/wJy9bA
[22:01] <karen_> So, what about this restricted extras? I don't understand that either, sorry, new here.
[22:03] <rangergord> karen_: I don't know how to fix your problem but look in the Ubuntu Software Center for VLC, it'll let you listen/watch anything until you can fix the system codecs or whatever
[22:03] <karen_> o.k. rangergord    thanks!
[22:04] <fahadash> Does ubuntu installer when installing , specifically at the formatting drive phase allow user to say "fix" or "mark" bad sectors ?
[22:04] <compdoc> fahadash, no
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> karen_: codecs are what let these media types play the restricted extras and the vlc player have additional ones to have this work, install them amd enjoy.
[22:05] <fahadash> compdoc: I currently have a windows computer with hdd having two partitions one with bad-sectors; I have to wipe out the hard drive and put a clean ubuntu install in it.. What would be the best way to do it?
[22:05] <paul_> wo finde ich einen deutschen kanal?
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> paul_: english?
[22:06] <paul_> deutsch?? :)
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> paul_: not here
[22:07] <paul_> ok ..
[22:07] <paul_> thx
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> !de
[22:07] <paul_> i see it
[22:08] <fahadash> no suggestions for me ?
[22:08] <Syme> Hey all - I've got a problem installing Ubuntu on an Acer Aspire One laptop that seems to be somewhat common - I disabled the Windows function that prevents third-party OSes from being installed(that thing everyone hates), but now it's just showing me the SYSLINUX/Peter Anvin copyright page and won't go past that. The solutions I see online are telling me to change some things in the installation files, but what to change and how seems t
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> fahadash: if you have bad sectors get a  new hd
[22:12] <jubale> How can I get binary apps to show up in Unity's search panel?
[22:13] <theradman> Hi all, I have a quick question, I just installed ubuntu-raring-13.04 which is command line based.  If I wanted to add a gui interface, e.g. gnome 13.04 (raring ringtail), is this possible to do on top of my os?  Would a reinstallation be necessary?  I dont want to change anything and risk having to reinstall everything
[22:13] <jubale> FoxIt Reader specifically.
[22:13] <veryhappy> Syme: i'm back, still any problems?
[22:14] <Ben64> theradman: not sure what you mean, 13.04 is not command line by default. if it really is ubuntu, you can add any desktop you want
[22:14] <karen_> O.K. I don't know how to use the vlc media player with LibriVox.org audio book site.   How do you use it?
[22:15] <theradman> hmmm thanks Ben64, when I log into my beagle bone with a microhdmi cable to an external display, it only comes up as a command line interface
[22:15] <veryhappy> karen_: vlc is a player for media files, streams and dvds/vcds etc. it automatically brings its own codecs while installation. that's why the codecs should be installed while installation of vlc.
[22:15] <Rory> karen_: Does librivox.org give you a downloaded file? what happens when you open it in VLC?
[22:15] <theradman> am I not enabline something that I should be?
[22:16] <Ben64> theradman: well thats a horse of a different color
[22:16] <Ben64> !arm | theradman
[22:16] <theradman> Ben64: ah thanks Ben64 I'll give this a read right now
[22:17] <karen_> When I open VLC, it just give the regular video box with choices on the top for what to play. They have an internet button on top to choose where they say to type in the URL, but that doesn't work for some reason with even copying and pasting.
[22:17] <Rory> karen_: Can you give an example URL?
[22:17] <veryhappy> karen_: what Rory said
[22:18] <karen_> well, it's a longggggg url    I can copy paste it for you, hang on.
[22:18] <veryhappy> karen_:
[22:18] <veryhappy> karen_: bit.ly
[22:18] <Rory> karen_: If it's very long use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:19] <veryhappy> karen_: you can also shorten the url with http://bit.ly
[22:19] <karen_> s://www.google.com/search?q=libriVox.org&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&channel=fe&client=browser-ubuntu&hl=en
[22:19] <karen_> maybe it didn't get all of it.
[22:19] <veryhappy> https://www.google.com/search?q=libriVox.org&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&channel=fe&client=browser-ubuntu&hl=en
[22:20] <veryhappy> karen_: corrected it for you
[22:20] <Yowl> Anyone on who can help me with  /dev/urandom or a alternative to it for randomizing HDD space?
[22:20] <karen_> what did you correct?
[22:20] <veryhappy> karen_: your url
[22:20] <karen_> so what was wrong/
[22:20] <Rory> karen_: That is a google search result
[22:20] <veryhappy> the first part was missing
[22:21] <Rory> karen_: VLC isn't magic enough to go through a web page and work out which part is a link to an actual media file
[22:21] <karen_> ohhh   o.k. so how do I find the correct one?  sorry so dumb here.
[22:21] <Rory> karen_: You need to find a URL which, if you were to click in in a browser, a file would download
[22:21] <Rory> karen_: Forget the "open by URL" thing in VLC for now. Just try to find a file you can download from LibreVox and open it in VLC
[22:21] <veryhappy> karen_: this might be an .mp3 file or .wma
[22:21] <Rory> karen_: It'll probably be .mp3 or .ogg
[22:22] <veryhappy> Rory: :D if you confuse him much more he'll not find it at the end :D
[22:22] <Rory> I imagine "karen" is not a he
[22:22] <karen_> o.k. aaaaa    I think I can figure that out.
[22:22] <veryhappy> Rory: oops, sorry :D
[22:22] <evilytwisted> Hi, Is there a "gamepad to keyboard" gui for linux?
[22:23] <veryhappy> evilytwisted: you could as well try to find a program for joystick to mouse and then use an on screen keyboard for that purpose.
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> evilytwisted: not really.
[22:23] <evilytwisted> veryhappy:  im trying to play WoW with my gamepad :P
[22:23] <veryhappy> evilytwisted: nerd, right?
[22:23] <karen_> So, it's o.k. to find a file I can download on an online site? I don't know what you can download on ubuntu Linux
[22:24] <evilytwisted> veryhappy:  No.. i just would like to try it
[22:24] <veryhappy> karen_: whatever you can download on windows as well.
[22:24] <evilytwisted> i found joy2key, But its not gui and highly confusing
[22:24] <Rory> karen_: Your issue here is with librevox it's not Ubuntu-specific. You're just trying to find an mp3 or something to download
[22:24] <mrkent> what is the redhat open source analogue?
[22:25] <evilytwisted> ill go bug debian..
[22:25] <mrkent> SUSE?
[22:25] <karen_> I really don't understan mp3, because I am dumb here, but they have a download you can download. hhahaha so dumb. Is that what I should do and then open it in vlc?
[22:25] <OerHeks> mrkent, fedora
[22:25] <veryhappy> evilytwisted: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=joy2key+manual
[22:25] <mrkent> OerHeks, okay thanks
[22:25] <evilytwisted> veryhappy:  Ha..ha..
[22:25] <veryhappy> karen_: mp3 is an audio file
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> karen_: right click the media-properties-play with and choose
[22:26] <karen_> o.k then      is that the download button i can push on their site?
[22:27] <Rory> !google | veryhappy
[22:27] <Yowl> 	Anyone on who can help me with /dev/urandom or a alternative to it for randomizing HDD space?
[22:27] <veryhappy> Rory: sorry. got it
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> !details | Yowl
[22:27] <evilytwisted> Rory:  I have googled my question, and ive checked joy 2 key manual..
[22:27] <veryhappy> Rory: some people even do to me
[22:28] <evilytwisted> its confusing..
[22:28] <evilytwisted> veryhappy:  just cause someone does it to you.. doesnt mean you do it to others...
[22:28] <veryhappy> evilytwisted: you should actually find some config files perhaps
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> Yowl: just state the iisues to ths channel for help.
[22:28] <veryhappy> evilytwisted: i got it i said
[22:28] <Yowl> wilee-nilee: Too many details to briefly explain, so waiting for someone who knows before going into it. Do you?
[22:28] <Rory> Yowl: What are you trying to do?
[22:28] <evilytwisted> -_- yeah ill go back to linuxmint... seems a lot nicer.. and its my distro
[22:29] <Yowl> Rory: Trying to randomize the contents of a blank partition for encrypting
[22:29] <Yowl> Well nicer or not, less people
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> Yowl: good luck that is not now it works here and weask you state and  of just ask for hel;
[22:29] <dr_willis> dd from /dev/random  perhaps   but it seems weird Yowl
[22:30] <Rory> Yowl: simply "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdXN" replacing XN with your actual partition name
[22:30] <widad_> can i ask in here about connecting a nokia to ubuntu please?
[22:30] <Rory> !ask
[22:30] <Yowl> wilee-nilee: What did you say?
[22:30] <dr_willis> seems a waste of time to me.
[22:31] <karen_> So, another question, guys... My grandkids like to download games on their windows computer. Can they do that on Ubuntu, or should they stick with the Software games?
[22:31] <Yowl> Rory: Will that command randomize only that partition, and nowhere else? Someone else mentioned the possibility of overrun if I don't specify like the exact size of the partitions and it's location on the HDD or something, not a risk?
[22:31] <jubale> Should there be a partition containing only 'lost+found'?
[22:31] <Rory> jubale: Yes
[22:31] <jubale> Why? It's not even mounted.
[22:32] <jubale> It's 5GB ext3, Ubuntu is installed on ext4
[22:32] <veryhappy> karen_: it's more difficult to find such games on ubuntu though many games can be found there as well, but in order to get windows games started on ubuntu it's a little bit harder.
[22:32] <dr_willis> karen_: theres games in software center. theres steam for ubuntu. some windows games work with wine or  'play on linux'
[22:32] <Rory> Yowl: No, if you specify the partition in the format /dev/sda2 (for example) only that partition will be touched
[22:32] <veryhappy> jubale: lost+found is always created.
[22:32] <widad_> HELPPPP  can i ask in here about connecting a nokia to ubuntu please?
[22:32] <OerHeks> Yowl, it makes no sence, filling an empty partition with random numbers, to use with encryption
[22:33] <veryhappy> widad_: !ask
[22:33] <karen_> o.k., so mostly, stick with the Ubuntu Software games.
[22:33] <illusion> hello, can any one here help me with openvpn on ubuntu ? i wahnt to connect to my openvpn server trouth icmp
[22:33] <veryhappy> !ask
[22:33] <widad_> veryhappy, please i need help about connecting my nokia to my computer. i run under ubuntu-studio and don't know how to connect my phone to it
[22:34] <Yowl> OerHeks: It is on advice, the principle being that it's more difficult to determine what is encrypted data, if surrounded by random. Like hiding a tree in a forest. You don't agree with this principle?
[22:34] <veryhappy> widad_: ok, first i need to know do you want to copy files from and to your computer with your nokia or do you want to use it as a modem in order to get into the internet?
[22:35] <Yowl> Rory: Will it give me a time frame for completion? Or is there a way to check? Can I use the label I gave the partition?
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> widad_: you would want to state the exact model and have you checked nokia's web pages or the net.
[22:35] <widad_> veryhappy, i want just to read my text message. my phone doesn't read some languages and i'm trying to read them
[22:36] <OerHeks> Yowl, i disagree, because when you set that partition in use, encryption software formats it and there is nothing to see about where is and where is not written data,
[22:36] <veryhappy> widad do you know which language it is?
[22:36] <karen_> Another question here:     Sooooo, I'm really having trouble putting any Linux distro with live cd or on a usb flash drive onto my windows 7 desktop that connects to the internet with belkin N600 DB v.2 wireless adapter. Just impossible - tried everything, except the windows wrap thing, which I don't know how to do and some people online say that doesn't even work.
[22:36] <widad_> veryhappy, yes arabic
[22:36] <Yowl> OerHeks: But Luks doesn't encrypt empty space, right?
[22:37] <veryhappy> widad_: does the phone have Android installed?
[22:37] <Rory> Yowl: dd has no progress indicator, I've always let it run overnight so I have no idea if it takes 5 minutes or 5 hours.
[22:37] <widad_> wilee-nilee, i searched but found nothing hope to find an answer here
[22:37] <karen_> Is that an absolute no, that kind of adapter?
[22:37] <widad_> veryhappy, no it's old it's a 5235
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> widad_: what ubuntu release 12,04 needs some  additional software for mtp
[22:38] <Rory> Yowl: That won't increase your security one bit, if you just encrypt a random other partition on the drive. The partition table shows which partition is which
[22:38] <widad_> wilee-nilee, mtp?
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> widad_: this an adroid?
[22:39] <Yowl> Rory: You seem to misunderstand, I would be encrypting one partition, I would randomize that specific partition before encrypting it. Not another unrelated partition
[22:39] <Rory> Yowl: Oh I see what you mean. Yes, by all means, that's good practice
[22:39] <widad_> wilee-nilee, i don't have an android
[22:39] <veryhappy> widad_: i don't think so.
[22:39] <widad_> veryhappy, it's not possible?
[22:40] <Rory> Yowl: Although any encryption tool worth its salt (heh) would randomise the free space anyway
[22:40] <OerHeks> Yowl even if it does not, you are not going to change that free space in random characters, luks will format your random filling
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> widad_:  nokia is  ot running a android platform?
[22:40] <veryhappy> widad_: you should try to use the Nokia PC Suite in order to synchronize the text messages to your computer.
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> not*
[22:40] <sienez> when I run a .sh script I get the following error messages ./data/myrmy: ./data/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6) AND ./data/myrmy: ./data/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdrm.so.2). do I need to install dev files for that?
[22:40] <Yowl> Rory: Well I am told LUKS and TrueCrypt are the best options, and that neither encrypt free space
[22:40] <widad_> veryhappy, does it run under ubuntu?
[22:40] <veryhappy> widad_: then you should be able to copy and paste the text into a translator in your computer.
[22:41] <Rory> Yowl: Tryecrypt does, it has an option to during the wizard
[22:41] <vimpulse> sienez:  hi :)  what script, and why run it?
[22:41] <Yowl> Rory: What would it encrypt anyway :p
[22:41] <Yowl> ah
[22:41] <jrib> sienez: say what you actually want to accomplish
[22:41] <widad_> veryhappy, does it run under ubuntu?
[22:41] <fahadash> wilee-nilee: There is a way to fill bad sectors with  fake data so system doesn't use that area right ?
[22:41] <Rory> Yowl: It is more to do with not being able to recover files that were on the partition before
[22:42] <Rory> Yowl: If there has never been sensitive data on the partition, it doesn't matter at all. You should use a Truecrypt hidden container if you need plausible deniability
[22:42] <veryhappy> widad_: perhaps you can try the program "blueman" in ubuntu
[22:42] <sienez> i want to run a script I downloaded from here: http://www.not-equal.eu/myrmedrome/main_en.html#Download. but when I run it I get the above error. so I checked synaptic for lib6 and so I was asking
[22:42] <sienez> the script is supposed to run an ant simulator
[22:43] <compdoc> fahadash, the problem with bad sectors is they dont stop growing. your data is at risk
[22:43] <widad_> veryhappy, blueman? i'll try it
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> fahadash: I don't know why even would you?
[22:43] <widad_> veryhappy, thanks a lot
[22:43] <widad_> wilee-nilee, thanks anyway
[22:43] <veryhappy> sienez: ant like in the animal or a program for programming?
[22:43] <sienez> ant like the animal
[22:44] <SecretFire> hey how can I blacklist ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.d?
[22:44] <karen_> does anyone know how to use the ndiswrapper? I don't know how to find the .inf file for my driver. I can find the info when I go into Windows without Linux.
[22:44] <Yowl> Rory: Well I was thinking of encrypting a partition, rather then a container. Isn't that better? And the crypto people I get this randomizing advice from do not advice it to prevent recovery of files that were on the partition before
[22:44] <sienez> i'm on ubuntu 13.04 on x86_64
[22:45] <veryhappy> karen_: what model do you have there? it's generally always a good idea first to try if there is a native driver for this purpose.
[22:45] <Rory> Yowl: Id recommend reading through all the truecrypt documentation (background info, not software manuals) because you need to understand encryption to get the most out of it, and I don't think I can explain well enough
[22:46] <karen_> I have a belkin N600 DB v.2001 wireless adapter.
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire: you can block it with grub at boot
[22:46] <Rory> Yowl: particularly the sections on plausible deniability - it seems you have a need to hide the existance of encryption from an adversary, and it's very important you do it right in that case
[22:46] <veryhappy> sienez: do you need to compile it?
[22:47] <Yowl> Rory: Well preventing access by noisy individuals borrowing my PC would suffice mostly.  You don't think LUKS is more secure then TrueCrypt? Or no idea/opinion?
[22:48] <Rory> Yowl: Truecrypt has Windows and Mac clients so it's good for cross-platform
[22:48] <Yowl> Rory: Yeah, but if I spend most of my time in linux..
[22:49] <thenetbook> Hewwo
[22:49] <Rory> Yowl: Then either is fine
[22:49] <sienez> veryhappy, no. it's a simple 2-liner with "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./data/:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH; ./data/myrmy" where data contains several .so.0 files, the binary 'myrmy' and some png files
[22:49] <veryhappy> karen_: probably there is really no driver for Linux for that.
[22:49] <vimpulse> sienez:  Did you try "sudo /usr/bin/aptitude install wine" then "wget http://www.not-equal.eu/myrmedrome/ myrmedrome-v2.1-win.exe" then "wine ./myrmedrome-v2.1-win.exe &"?  Hacky but maybe it will work.
[22:49] <karen_> ya... so no luck?
[22:49] <Yowl> Rory So no idea if one is more secure then the other? I was told since LUKS is open source and TrueCrpyt isn't, that it is probably better to use TrueCrypt
[22:50] <vimpulse> sienez:  oops that middle command should be "wget http://www.not-equal.eu/myrmedrome/myrmedrome-v2.1-win.exe" without any space inside it.
[22:50] <thenetbook> What should I do if an Error pops up when I am trying to play a Steam game saying: "Could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError'! Either your video card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated.
[22:50] <veryhappy> karen_: in this case we can only try to get it running with ndiswrapper i guess.
[22:50] <veryhappy> karen_: let me check something out
[22:50] <Richhh> i broke my bash emulation by writing export PATH=$HOME/dir
[22:50] <karen_> k
[22:50] <Richhh> commands dont work now
[22:50] <Richhh> a quick way to reset it?
[22:51] <Rory> Richhh: "reset"
[22:51] <sienez> vimpulse, as a very last resort I might do that but before that i will try on ubuntu 12. but first i want to troubleshoot this. there has to be a way
[22:51] <Richhh> Rory command not found
[22:51] <vimpulse> veryhappy:  is running the Windows version a bad troubleshooting step?
[22:51] <vimpulse> veryhappy:  on Wine
[22:51] <thenetbook> ?
[22:51] <ADP4U> I hate wine in linux
[22:51] <ADP4U> Love drinking it
[22:51] <Richhh> Rory im using cygwin
[22:51] <Rory> Richhh: /usr/bin/reset
[22:52] <Rory> Richhh: What
[22:52] <vimpulse> ADP4U:  I used it today to run an obscure tool.  It worked flawlessly and perfectly.
[22:52] <Rory> !ot | Richhh
[22:52] <wylde> Richhh: log out and back in..... cygwin != ubuntu
[22:52] <veryhappy> vimpulse: for which program?
[22:52] <thenetbook> ...
[22:52] <Richhh> ok
[22:52] <vimpulse> veryhappy:  this "Myrmedome" ant-colony simulator
[22:52] <Richhh> oh yep
[22:52] <Richhh> no problem
[22:52] <Rory> Yowl: It's more to do with the actual encryption technoloy, like AES or whatever, that the program that implements it
[22:52] <ADP4U> Ok cool.
[22:52] <veryhappy> vimpulse: at least you can try it, if it doesn't run, then we know it doesn't run.
[22:52] <Richhh> thanks wydle
[22:53] <thenetbook> hmkfdry kjgdxcyh
[22:53] <thenetbook> oops
[22:53] <Oddity> Where do I find this ant colony simulator?
[22:53] <vimpulse> sienez:  very_happy thinks it's a reasonable thing to try.
[22:53] <veryhappy> karen_: ok, let's try to install ndiswrapper and get this thing to run. which version of ubuntu do you use?
[22:53] <thenetbook> didnt mean to press enter
[22:53] <vimpulse> Oddity:  http://www.not-equal.eu/myrmedrome/main_en.html
[22:53] <Yowl> Rory: Have you ever used Truecrypt or LUKS before?
[22:54] <vimpulse> sienez:  why don't you want to try it?
[22:55] <sienez> is it possible that version 'GLIBC_2.17' is found in libc6-dev-amd64:i386 in the repositories?
[22:55] <karen_> veryhappy, I am very happy with my Ubuntu on my laptop right now which I am typing off of, BUT, if I stick my Slacko Puppy usb flash drive or even any linux live cd in my desktop with the belkin adapter, it won't work, sooooo, if you can just tell me how to do it, I can right it down and try it later. o.k.?
[22:55] <Rory> Yowl: Yes I use Truecrypt on my desktop machine which dual-boots Arch and Windows, and I use LUKS (I think) on my Ubuntu work laptop (or whatever technology is used by the LVM encryption provided by the installer)
[22:56] <Yowl> Rory: Does Truecrypt have a special boot screen one has to go through, even if only encrypting a nonboot partition?
[22:56] <sienez> vimpulse, i would prefer the native program.
[22:56] <karen_> "write" it down, sorry
[22:56] <Rory> Yowl: I don't know, and this is starting to get well outside the realm of Ubuntu support
[22:57] <karen_> I do have the cd that the belkin wireless adapter came with. Will that help?
[22:58] <veryhappy> karen_: you will have to find the latest windows driver of this belkin adapter and try to load the driver in ndiswrapper in order to get it working.
[22:58] <karen_> I'm saying, "I'll try it later," because I don't have another monitor for the desktop to try it.
[22:58] <veryhappy> karen_: if you have the driver it might be useful to
[22:58] <veryhappy> karen_: i mean if you have the driver on a cd it's useful.
[22:59] <vimpulse> sienez:  we know that you would prefer the native program.  So would I, and so would anyone.  But my question was a little different.  My question was *why* you would prefer the native program.  :)
[22:59] <veryhappy> Yowl: what do you want to encrypt?
[22:59] <karen_> Ummm I have the cd that came with the adapter that i had to put in when I got my windows desktop going, if that's what you mean?
[22:59] <veryhappy> karen_: yes. this driver will help you later.
[23:00] <yarudl> anyone care to help me with my computer not seeing the boot partition?
[23:00] <veryhappy> yarudl: what's the problem of this computer not seeing the boot partition?
[23:00] <Yowl> veryhappy: A partition with nonsystem files
[23:00] <mPrometheus> security-scanner11.infosec.utexas.edu]quit
[23:01] <karen_> o.k. veryhappy, tell me what to do step by step if you are so patient. ummm I wouldn't know how to download the new driver from online site to ndiswrapper.
[23:01] <veryhappy> Yowl: afaik there should be encryption brought with ubuntu already
[23:01] <yarudl> I installed Ubuntu with the 'wipe the drive' option, and when I boot the computer it says no bootable partition found.
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> yarudl:  id try out the boot-repair tool from a live cd. its mentioned on the following urls
[23:01] <karen_> can't do that if I'm not online. I probably can do that on windows.
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[23:02] <yarudl> ubottu: I'll give that a go. I've spent quite a while arguing with this thing... it's an old cr48 so it's a bit cranky.
[23:02] <Tigz4god> Anyone here familiar with using playonlinux and league of legends
[23:03] <veryhappy> karen_: first you have to download the driver from the internet or copy it from a cd. because this is much easier now, i'm going to try this way. you need to find the driver setup and there should be a driver that you can use for ndiswrapper. then you need to copy the driver to your linux system and move it into any directory that you specify with ndiswrapper -i /path/to/driver then you should just press enter and it should be loading
[23:03] <veryhappy> needs to be loaded should be possible with modprobe -i ndiswrapper.
[23:03] <plut0> how do you change mirrors for apt-get using cli?
[23:03] <thumpba> what is the best ssh for 12.04
[23:04] <veryhappy> Tigz4god: League of Legends is usable with wine. Install wine for your system and it should already work.
[23:04] <veryhappy> thumpba: what do you mean with best ssh for 12.04?
[23:05] <veryhappy> thumpba: do you want to use it for a server?
[23:05] <Tigz4god> veryhappy: i have it installed using wine. I was just curious if the extreme length of load screen is normal
[23:05] <veryhappy> Tigz4god: because wine needs a little more time to load it's normal i guess.
[23:06] <Tigz4god> veryhappy: thats what I thoguht, I just wnated to knwo if someone could confirm that they have same issue
[23:06] <vimpulse> I thought that Wine normally should be just as fast as Windows is.  Except if a game falls back to software rendering.
[23:07] <veryhappy> Tigz4god: you can change that with a registry that i've made for the windows registry. probably that could work.
[23:07] <karen_> o.k.   If there is already a driver for it, because it works for windows, I should download it anyway so I can copy it to Linux? You mean, I'll be able to find the download through ndiswrapper, press where ever I downloaded it and it should enter Linux?
[23:08] <Tigz4god> veryhappy: could you elobrate a little for me? What changed should I make?
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> vimpulse:  ive seen some games run faster in wine, than in windows. :)
[23:09] <karen_> When you open ndiswrapper, it goes straight to your windows files. I don't quite get what your saying there.
[23:09] <veryhappy> karen_:  you just copy the windows driver for this adapter into any directory and install it in ndiswrapper
[23:09] <veryhappy> Tigz4god: write me your email address /msg veryhappy type your email address.
[23:10] <karen_> o.k.    into any directory in windows, and then I can find it with the ndiswrapper?
[23:10] <karen_> that sounds easy enough
[23:14] <karen_> Does it matter, VeryHappy, if the downloaded driver is in any file on windows, because they said to find it in the .inf file, but maybe that doesn't matter just so long it see it and can "wrap" it.
[23:15] <veryhappy> kicked myself out.
[23:15] <veryhappy> i'm back
[23:15] <ObrienDave> hate when that happens ;)
[23:16] <veryhappy> who had this League of Legends problem now?
[23:16] <karen_> me     but I think I pretty much got it, right?
[23:16] <veryhappy> i was talking about wine now.
[23:16] <karen_> oh ya that guy
[23:17] <veryhappy> is that guy still here?
[23:17] <karen_> Am I right, veryhappy?
[23:17] <suyase> Hey, when I type xinput list it doesn't show my touchpad, but my touchpad works - the problem is that the mouse jumps left and double clicks every ~3 seconds
[23:17] <ObrienDave> oh oh, you're going to anger the OT gods LOL
[23:17] <reisio> suyase: clean it off
[23:18] <veryhappy> karen_: i just asked because i kicked myself out.
[23:18] <suyase> I can't get this behavior to stop, and none of the threads discussing Elantech touchpads have answers
[23:18] <Crazyzurfer> my ubuntu is asking to update, I tell it to do it... after asking my password it says that installation of untrusted packages must be installed, I tell it "accept" but it seems to not work, because some time later it asks to update the same packages
[23:18] <suyase> reisio: During boot it displays a message stating that query 0x02 failed to the touchpad
[23:18] <suyase> reisio: Also, it isn't dirty
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, you are missing keys of added repos.
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> !keys
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.i never can rember that repo key factoid
[23:19] <reisio> suyase: only way you could know that is if you cleaned it off
[23:19] <karen_> So, let me get this straight... I'm so sorry... Soooo, I go download an upgraded driver for my belkin wireless adapter, put it like in downloads or something in my windows desktop. Then I get on my linux and go into ndiswrapper, find it, and hopefully it will load. Right?
[23:20] <reisio> karen_: which adapter?
[23:20] <suyase> reisio: That's correct. I have cleaned it several times.
[23:20] <veryhappy> karen_: pretty much
[23:20] <veryhappy> reisio: belkin n600
[23:20] <suyase> reisio: Also, there is a specific error message at boot that indicates the problem probably isn't dirt.
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> CrazyEddy, run tghe update and upgrade in the terminal what ever key you are missing use this to insert it  sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "put key here"
[23:21] <karen_> k, veryhappy,     reisio, it is a belkin n600 db v2 wireless adapter for my desktop that for some reason, no linux distro I try will recognize its driver.
[23:21] <Crazyzurfer> wilee-nilee: are you telling me that? or you are telling that to crazyeddy, lol
[23:21] <guyguy> yo yo
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, you sorry
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, having a common nick is the problem with trying to use the tab complete, lol on you.
[23:22] <Crazyzurfer> wilee-nilee: and how do I know which one has the missing key
[23:22] <karen_> thanks, veryhappy, for you time and info   !!!
[23:22] <reisio> yeah looks like ndiswrapper is the way https://www.google.com/search?q=%22belkin%22%20%22n600%22%20%22linux%22
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, read the instuctions.
[23:23] <markovh> i've noticed randomly when i try to paste, it doesn't work in a terminal (ctrl shift v). when i click on edit and then click back into the console (other menus don't work like file,view), it starts working again
[23:23] <veryhappy> reisio: we already figured that out. thanks
[23:23] <Crazyzurfer> wilee-nilee: now i understand
[23:23] <markovh> strange right?
[23:23] <reisio> veryhappy: hence yeah
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, cool they will show in the terminal with a update upgrade.
[23:24] <suyase> So, I updated to raring and my external USB atheros(wifi) adapter no longer works - Ubuntu recognizes it, it appears in the list of adapters, then it promptly vanishes - this happens over and over again
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> suyase, You install any drivers to get it going originally
[23:25] <suyase> wilee-nilee: linux-image-generic includes ath9k for atheros chipset cards I believe
[23:25] <karen_> One more question guys, than I'm scadaddling along.   If I download a audio mp3 thing from that LibriVox thing, can I somehow get rid of that download later? Where is it? This isn't windows.
[23:26] <suyase> wilee-nilee: also, it recognizes the card - it just immediately drops it and re-recognizes it repeatedly
[23:26] <suyase> wilee-nilee: I don't believe I ever installed any special drivers for that card
[23:26] <Anom01y> hey everyone
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> suyase, Hmm, that does not answer the question, am I to assume that is a no?
[23:26] <Anom01y> I have this strange problem with my graphics, everything works, for a while,
[23:27] <Anom01y> then about 1 or 2 days, maybe a few more even, the graphics get very choppy
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> suyase, generally the exact model help, run lsusb and identify it
[23:27] <ccowan_> I'm having issues with an Nvidia GTX 660 graphics card and the Proprietary drivers.
[23:27] <Anom01y> the problem is noticeable in the screensaver, and in clementine visualizations (music playing program)
[23:27] <Anom01y> it seems all graphics get choppy
[23:27] <ccowan_> when I boot into the login screen instead it just flashes between colors
[23:27] <Anom01y> so my only solution is to reset the computer,
[23:27] <suyase> wilee-nilee: it only appears on lsusb very briefly
[23:28] <suyase> wilee-nilee: then it vanishes
[23:28] <ccowan_> rainbow bars... black... gray scales... etc
[23:28] <suyase> wilee-nilee: this repeats indefinitely
[23:28] <Anom01y> I was wondering if there is another way to fix this issue without resetting the computer
[23:28] <ccowan_> any suggestions?
[23:28] <moppy> ccowan_: I had that, do you have nomodeset set?
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> suyase, Can you test it on another computer to make sure it works or another OS?
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> still works that is
[23:28] <ccowan_> I tried that.. same results
[23:28] <suyase> wilee-nilee: It works on my other machines just fine
[23:28] <ccowan_> moppy ^^^
[23:28] <moppy> ccowan_: works with nouveau?
[23:28] <suyase> wilee-nilee: When I installed raring, I started having many problems
[23:29] <ccowan_> yup... works fine with nouveau
[23:29] <suyase> wilee-nilee: The problem with the network adapter, and the problem with the mouse (it jumps left and clicks twice every ~2-3 seconds)
[23:29] <Guest95165> hey, what should I use to burn my ISO file to a disk for installation
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> suyase, To really get any help the exact model is quite helpful to you and us, if it works on other setuos get that info.
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> setups*
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> Guest95165, a burner, what OS?
[23:30] <ObrienDave> Guest95165... I use K3B
[23:30] <suyase> it's an AWUS036
[23:30] <reisio> Guest95165: don't have a usb stick?
[23:30] <ccowan_> moppy... did you just add that to grub?
[23:30] <moppy> Guest95165: ubuntu has brasero as standard: what OS are you on?
[23:30] <Guest95165> @reisio I'm on windows 7 right now
[23:30] <reisio> Guest95165: ...but do you have a usb stick
[23:31] <moppy> Guest95165: win7 doesnt need a burner program, it is built into windows explorer
[23:31] <suyase> wilee-nilee: Also, the reason I'm telling you this is it's not a problem with the device or the driver - I've checked those several times - it appears to be a problem with ubuntu, not my devices
[23:32] <moppy> Guest95165: I assume you mean a DVD-R not a USB, right?
[23:32] <Guest95165> yes, but I intended to just use an unused DVD-R that I had lying around
[23:32] <suyase> wilee-nilee: As in, ubuntu seems to recognize the devices just fine, then immediately forgets them, then immediately recognizes them again
[23:33] <reisio> Guest95165: k, it doesn't really matter as long as you burn the image as an image and not a file, and I'd recommend a slower speed, such as 4x
[23:33] <moppy> Guest95165: Well you don't need to download anyhting . Win7 can do it
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> suyase, Problem here is almost all wifi and many drivers are reversed engineered to work the problem is with the manufacturers not giving support, using that identification and 13.04 on google I find this, look for yourself. https://www.google.com/search?q=AWUS036+13.04&btnG=Search&client=ubuntu&channel=fs&oe=utf-8
[23:34] <suyase> wilee-nilee: It's not _just_ the wifi card that is experiencing a problem, and the problems are the same
[23:34] <Guest95165> okay, moppy, then how do I do that? (sorry I'm such a N00B)
[23:34] <moppy> Guest95165: But when i used windows, i sometimes used Nero. However win7 explorer as a microsoft one built in somewhere, i think you right click the ISO file or someting
[23:35] <ObrienDave> Guest95165... right click ISO, send to "burn disc"
[23:35] <moppy> Guest95165: if you're stuck just download any of the numerous windows dvd burnign programs. your pc probably came with one anyway? (becuase apparenty ppl dont know windows does it)
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> suyase, Myself, the minute it did not work I would get one that plugged and worked always, they are cheap, it's not worth the hassle in my opinion.
[23:35] <moppy> Guest95165: you need to burn the ISO, not the files in the ISO, that's the only tricky thing to remember
[23:35] <suyase> wilee-nilee: It has always worked.
[23:35] <suyase> wilee-nilee: Always.
[23:36] <suyase> wilee-nilee: I upgraded to 13.04 and it stopped working
[23:36] <suyase> wilee-nilee: It is not the _only_ problem that 13.04 has caused - I see two of the problems as related
[23:36] <OerHeks> suyase, see this answer, disable wireless N and see if the problem keeps comming up >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1170463/comments/33
[23:37] <yellowfish2> hey guys. So I just installed ubuntu on my new chromebook
[23:37] <yellowfish2> I'm usign the laptop mainly for web dev
[23:37] <yellowfish2> any suggestions on things I should download?
[23:37] <yellowfish2> I'm used to Sublime text
[23:37] <suyase> OerHeks: I'm not sure how to explain this precisely.
[23:37] <yellowfish2> for text editing
[23:37] <suyase> OerHeks: The wireless card doesn't malnfunction
[23:37] <reisio> yellowfish2: you could download that if you wanted
[23:37] <suyase> OerHeks: As in, it actually works fine with Ubuntu
[23:37] <yellowfish2> oh nice
[23:37] <yellowfish2> any other good web dev IDEs for ubuntu?
[23:38] <suyase> OerHeks: but some of my devices (touchpad, USB wifi card, other stuff) Ubuntu identifies them correctly, and then drops them ~2 seconds later
[23:38] <veryhappy> yellowfish2: web dev you say? eclipse or intellij
[23:38] <suyase> OerHeks: So in the case of my touch pad, it's causing my mouse to jump 2 inches to the left every 2-3 seconds when it reinitializes
[23:38] <reisio> yellowfish2: yeah, but if you learned Vim you'd be so much happier :p
[23:38] <suyase> OerHeks: The wifi card cannot be used because it reinitializes every 2-3 seconds
[23:38] <suyase> OerHeks: So it's not an issue of using the wifi card
[23:39] <suyase> OerHeks: It's just an issue of getting ubuntu to stop dropping the initialized devices constantly
[23:39] <yellowfish2> why do I see a picture of a poor african child when I google search for Vim?
[23:39] <jakemp> because you have a weird google search history?
[23:39] <reisio> yellowfish2: you don't
[23:39] <veryhappy> yellowfish2: because google is based on filters and such
[23:39] <moppy> yellowfish2: first thing i would do on an ubuntu chromebook is download something to fix the function keys and delete key ...
[23:39] <yellowfish2> why?
[23:40] <Guest95165> if I mount the ISO from the website then copy those files do my DVD-R will that work? or no?
[23:40] <yellowfish2> I don't have a fgunction key
[23:40] <reisio> you've probably been searching for something related to poor african children lately, and haven't cleared your cookies, so google is giving you more of what they know you're already interested in
[23:40] <yellowfish2> nor do I really need it...
[23:40] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. in my ubuntu 12.04 I see /usr/bin/emacs and /usr/bin/emacs24 and I chose the latter but what is the differnce
[23:40] <moppy> yellowfish2: exactly the point... most editors will use F1-F12 etc. and where is your delete key?
[23:40] <Jeruvy> o/
[23:40] <Vivekananda> Also it is not giving me syntax highlight for php
[23:41] <yellowfish2> I don't use those f1-f12 keys anyways
[23:41] <yellowfish2> especially on sublime
[23:41] <yellowfish2> not necessary
[23:41] <reisio> http://dontbubble.us/
[23:41] <ObrienDave> yellowfish2... http://www.vim.org/
[23:42] <moppy> yellowfish2: I actually miss F11 a tlot (full scren for chrome). I can do it, but needs to click around. slighly annoying. kind of need that for testing sites etc.
[23:42] <ObrienDave> oops, ok, THAT african child. my bad LOL
[23:42] <yellowfish2> wtf
[23:42] <yellowfish2> my trackpack doesn't even work
[23:42] <yellowfish2> with ubuntu
[23:43] <moppy> yellowfish2: which chromebook? arm?
[23:43] <yellowfish2> yes
[23:43] <Guest95165> if I mount the ISO from the website then copy those files do my DVD-R will that work? or no?
[23:43] <veryhappy> reisio: cool site reisio like i told search engine are filters, is that also a search engine?
[23:43] <yellowfish2> wait nvm
[23:43] <yellowfish2> it's intel
[23:44] <daniel_> http://l.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/favicon-fresh-107777.ico
[23:44] <moppy> Guest95165: did you look @ the instructions on ubuntu's site? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows
[23:45] <suyase> My touchpad vanishes and reappears on "xinput list" every 2-3 seconds
[23:45] <daniel_> i need a list of hotel email addresses
[23:45] <suyase> How to fix this?
[23:46] <ObrienDave> Guest95165... NO, an ISO file MUST be burnt as is. It is not an archive like a ZIP file is
[23:46] <veryhappy> ObrienDave: is right
[23:46] <Guest95165> @obriendave okay, thanks
[23:46] <daniel_> how to access hotel email addresses
[23:47] <veryhappy> daniel_: that's not topic of this channel.
[23:47] <ObrienDave> I feel a full moon coming LOL
[23:48] <suyase> how to reinstall drivers for an Elantech touchpad on ubuntu 13.04?
[23:48] <yellowfish2> man I think I fucked up my chrombook installation
[23:48] <yellowfish2> I've no idea what's happening
[23:48] <reisio> veryhappy: hrmm?
[23:50] <moppy> yellowfish2: have you tried crouton? it's a bit better for hardware support since it's running on top of chromeOS
[23:50] <veryhappy> reisio: what's up?
[23:50] <yellowfish2> I'm using crouton right now
[23:50] <reisio> veryhappy: couldn't parse your last msg to me
[23:50] <yellowfish2> my mousepad is fucked up
[23:50] <suyase> This is unbelievably frustrating, and it seems that google has no answers
[23:50] <yellowfish2> you can't move the mouse unless you put like half of your finger on it
[23:50] <IdleOne> yellowfish2: Please no cursing in ubuntu channels
[23:50] <veryhappy> reisio: i think i didn't write something important
[23:51] <yellowfish2> sorry
[23:51] <IdleOne> thank you
[23:51] <thumpba> veryhappy: yes i want to use ssh on a server...its just for me.
[23:51] <veryhappy> thumpba: i'd suggest apt-get install openssh-server
[23:52] <reisio> yellowfish2: some useful packages for web stuff: http://dpaste.com/1418252/plain/
[23:52] <Guest95165> thanks for the support, everyone!
[23:53] <thumpba> veryhappy: okay so i installed that, however, its performing diff on 2 servers
[23:54] <Guest65825> have a good day, come on!
[23:54] <veryhappy> thumpba: diff?
[23:54] <thumpba> veryhappy: one server it works great, the other i get a broken pipe error and when i try to reconnect via ssh it times out and will only work after the server is rebooted
[23:54] <Yowl> How do you get a time estimate for the work of DD randomizer?
[23:55] <veryhappy> thumpba: that seems strange
[23:55] <thumpba> indeed
[23:55] <veryhappy> thumpba: network works fine anyway?
[23:56] <Ari-Yang> !12.10
[23:56] <thumpba> yes, same network
[23:58] <veryhappy> thumpba: never occured to me this problem