[04:21] <ScottK> soee: Great job.  Keep it up.
[04:38] <ScottK> agateau: Are the installer UI improvements for 13.10 your work?  If so, nice job.
[05:38] <ScottK> claydoh, shadeslayer, etc: Who's doing release notes?
[06:43] <ScottK> Need a bit more amd64 testing ...
[06:43] <agateau> ScottK: thanks! assuming this is really my work :) (iirc, I added wifi support, did some minor adjustments on page width and reworked the big "try" and "install" buttons
[06:43] <ScottK> agateau: Yes.  The wifi support and the big buttons are the main changes I noticed.
[06:43] <ScottK> The wifi bit is very smooth.
[06:44] <agateau> :)
[06:44] <ScottK> shadeslayer should definitely brag about it for us when he writes release notes.
[06:44] <agateau> I see what you did here :)
[07:03] <ScottK> i386 done.
[07:03]  * ScottK sleeps.
[07:49] <alvin_> Is the Kubuntu Active project still active? I've recently acquired a computer (Intel i5, no tablet) with touch screen and tried the daily. I saw mainly the KDE bug reported window (full screen). Also, swiping that top bar all the way down on a 23" monitor is a painful experience. Giving a tap somewhere would be nicer.
[08:18] <valorie> alvin_: I don't think we have anyone to work on that right now
[08:18] <valorie> lack of time, and equipment 
[08:22] <alvin> It was worth a try. Kubuntu Active would be nice to put in a living room. I really liked the screenshots, but not the reality. Pity, because I would have liked it on the Nexus 7 too.
[08:23] <valorie> time changes things, and we haven't given up on Active
[08:23] <valorie> I want to see it happen too
[08:23] <alvin> It's ok. I'll wait for my Vivaldi pre-order to arrive (http://makeplaylive.com/) to have KDE and a touch screen. ;-)
[08:25] <valorie> I've been thinking about that too
[08:26] <valorie> sooo many obstacles to overcome on the HW side
[08:27] <valorie> I think Canonical is pretty committed to the ubuntu touch device interface
[08:27] <valorie> and that should be possible to get working with kub too
[08:27] <valorie> we'll see
[08:39] <shadeslayer> valorie: I wouldn't count on it
[08:40]  * jussi notes the blogpost and sales site are both live. please feel free to purchase yourselves a shirt!
[08:42] <shadeslayer> :)
[08:42] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I'm doing release notes today
[08:42] <valorie> shadeslayer: I live in hope
[08:42] <valorie> no tablet until i can run kde on it
[08:45] <shadeslayer> as soon as my computer comes back to life ...
[09:26] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1194501] [ 4.8 Linaro regression] ICE on gcc-4.8 building kde4libs @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1194501 (by Scott Kitterman)
[09:28] <soee> someone might explain me pls what Install (OEM setup) is ?
[09:29] <soee> the OEM setup
[09:33] <shadeslayer> soee: it's for OEM's to ship Kubuntu on computers
[09:33] <shadeslayer> then when you boot it the first time users can configure their users
[09:33] <jussi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview - equivalent to that
[09:34] <soee> we have such option to run OEM installation ?
[09:34] <soee> have to check that
[09:35] <shadeslayer> you have to check the extra flags at boot
[09:35] <soee> where exactly ?
[09:36] <shadeslayer> at the very start
[09:36] <shadeslayer> when you see the syslinux splash screen
[09:36] <shadeslayer> soee: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1305/info
[09:37] <shadeslayer> instead of aubergine we have blue/black
[09:40] <soee> ok got it
[09:42] <Mamarok> kajongg still held back, any ideas?
[09:43] <soee> Full name: OEM Configuration (temporary user) and Username: oem - both fields are inactive and impossible to modify when installing ?
[09:44] <yofel> yep, you set those later after booting
[09:44] <soee> ok
[09:45] <Mamarok> nvm, seems there is a git package it tries to install isntead of the already installed 4.11.2, how weird
[09:46] <Mamarok> why do I even see that package?
[09:46] <yofel> apt-cache policy kajongg should tell you
[09:49] <Mamarok> yofel: still weird: http://pastebin.kde.org/pt3nem1uy
[09:49] <Mamarok> why is that git package in the backports ppa?
[09:49] <yofel> no, you have a PPA enabled: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/
[09:50] <Mamarok> that shouldn't cause problems, as normally it should be empty for saucy, no?
[09:51] <yofel> well, I've been trying to spin daily builds off the stable branches for testing, but I might purge those tomorrow as I didn't get everything finished that's needed for that
[09:51] <yofel> (mostly the packaging changes)
[09:59] <shadeslayer> soee: testing OEM?
[10:11] <Riddell> Rshirzad: you got a customer http://pastebin.kde.org/p1nxgddqm
[10:13] <Rshirzad> thanks, not spotted this, will look into it.
[10:15] <soee> shadeslayer, yes
[10:16] <shadeslayer> Riddell: how are you?
[10:18] <soee> shadeslayer, lsb_release -rd
[10:18] <soee> should return Ubuntu 13.10 ?
[10:18] <shadeslayer> huh?
[10:19] <shadeslayer> yes
[10:19] <soee> ok
[10:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: tired, hope to be able to do some useful bits this evening
[10:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how's the release going?
[10:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: good so far
[10:20] <shadeslayer> all ISO's should be tested within the hour
[10:20] <shadeslayer> need to write  up release notes then
[10:21] <shadeslayer> we fixed some l10n bugs and other stuff over the last 2 days
[10:23] <soee> shadeslayer, OEM setup done
[10:24] <shadeslayer> cool
[10:45] <soee> what is Ubuntu OpenStack
[10:55] <shadeslayer> hmm
[11:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: The welcome to Kubuntu icon is supposed to copied to the target system right?
[11:10] <apachelogger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/1240409 you really got love localized logs
[11:12] <soee> is it possible to clear icons cache (if such exist) ?
[11:13] <apachelogger> rm ~/.kde/cache-*/icon-cache.kcache
[11:15] <apachelogger> Oo
[11:15] <apachelogger> wait
[11:15] <apachelogger> what
[11:15] <apachelogger> kdelibs 4.4.2
[11:15] <apachelogger> dafuq
[11:17] <apachelogger> 正在卸载 klinkstatus-kde3 ...
[11:17] <apachelogger> whaaaa
[11:18] <apachelogger> 4.4.2 was lucid
[11:18] <apachelogger> and klingstatus-kde3 was also last seen in lucid
[11:19] <apachelogger> yet apport and the apt log agree that this is a new install done 11 days ago
[11:43] <jussi> First Shirt sold! COme on people, lets see those orders!
[11:55] <jdrab> jussi: what shirts? :O
[11:55] <jdrab> oh topic.. 
[11:55] <jussi> jdrab: see the topic :) and planet
[11:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer: nope, only on the live image
[12:00] <shadeslayer> aha cool
[12:05] <BluesKaj> what's the setting in muon that upgrades the OS to the next release
[12:05] <Riddell> Tariq_: your customer is wondering how to contact you (and doesn't seem to be able to read a web page) http://pastebin.kde.org/
[12:05] <ScottK> FYI, there will be a respin of all images in the next hour, so we get to redo the ISO tests.
[12:06] <ScottK> Riddell: That's just an empty pastebin.
[12:06] <Riddell> bah kde pastebin is losing its usefulness "Your paste triggered our spam filter and has been dropped "
[12:07] <shadeslayer> aw man
[12:07] <shadeslayer> :(
[12:08] <soee> am i wrong or there was some integration krunner + google translator ?
[12:09] <ScottK> soee: Great job yesterday on ISO testing.  Get ready to do it again.
[12:09] <soee> ScottK, you are lucky im at home today so i can do it again
[12:09] <ScottK> Excellent.
[12:11] <jdrab> jussi: done! :D
[12:12] <jdrab> i hope that polo shirt it will fit or i will migrate to opensuse :P
[12:21] <soee> ScottK, what was wrong with all those images ?
[12:24] <jussi> jdrab: :D
[12:24] <jdrab> ok even if it won't fit i can not migrate, opensuse always breaks in my hands
[12:25] <jdrab> i don't know why but it does 
[12:25] <jdrab> :D
[12:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: halp
[12:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: l10n is screwed up
[12:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dolphin is totally confused http://i.imgur.com/fBmyKjC.png
[12:44] <smartboyhw> soee, Ubuntu Release Team wants to land some fixes for ubiquity (and I believe we have some bugfixes to landtoo?)
[12:47] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: want to do the release notes?
[12:47] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, eh, I haven't done the Studio release notes myself-.-
[12:48] <smartboyhw> (And I have a biology test tmr)
[12:48] <shadeslayer> lazy
[12:48] <smartboyhw> (And I have a Liberal Studies and English test the day after tmr)
[12:49] <shadeslayer> excuses are all I hear
[12:50] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, well, these make good excuses (I'm not going to make release notes ruin my studies)
[12:51] <BluesKaj> maybe a new nick is in order in that case :)
[12:52] <smartboyhw> BluesKaj, I consider putting studies ahead of computer stuff smart.
[12:52] <BluesKaj> we won't expect so muxh 
[12:52] <smartboyhw> (You guys never understand HK's education system)
[12:52] <BluesKaj> we don't care :)
[12:52] <smartboyhw> Once you study in here through the whole cycle, you will understand my feeling.
[12:52] <smartboyhw> BluesKaj, sure, I care about myself.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> yeah, of course , but like shadeslayer says , excuses , excuses
[12:54] <smartboyhw> (HK people are VERY good at excuses, BTW)
[12:55] <BluesKaj> just teasing , smartboyhw ..carry on with your studies :)
[13:06] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You, of all people, should not complain about exams excuses.
[13:07] <ScottK> soee: The issue the respun didn't affect our front end, but since the package was updated, we need to respin/retest.  We took advantage of that to fix a lightdm issue on our images that would have had to be a 0 day SRU otherwise.
[13:07] <ScottK> That's the long answer.  The short answer is nothing.
[13:08] <ScottK> But we do final release with the images matching what's in the release pocket.
[13:15] <shadeslayer> ScottK: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SaucySalamander/Final1/Kubuntu#preview
[13:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^ plz review
[13:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: lol?
[13:16] <shadeslayer> ?
[13:16] <apachelogger> env | grep LANG :P
[13:16] <shadeslayer> ah
[13:16] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/pe2dea9b3
[13:17] <apachelogger> seems legit
[13:17] <apachelogger> I reckon in the KCM you have engb > german > enus
[13:17] <apachelogger> oh noe
[13:17] <apachelogger> engb> enus > german
[13:17] <apachelogger> curious
[13:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: just move german out of the list
[13:18] <apachelogger> last I tried engb > enus in KDE 3 it fell right through enus and also picked up whatever was third
[13:18] <shadeslayer> lol?
[13:18] <apachelogger> <- still doesn't know why we need that feature to begin with
[13:19]  * apachelogger totally has no hair on his head anymore
[13:19]  * apachelogger hugs the Riddell
[13:20] <apachelogger> Riddell: also indeed kde paste is rubbish since update
[13:20] <apachelogger> it also has scroll-focus-on click, so if you click a line it scrolls so it is the top most line in the window
[13:20] <apachelogger> most annoying thing in all the world
[13:21] <apachelogger> bug 1240506
[13:21] <apachelogger> is k3b even still maintained?
[13:21] <apachelogger> and on that note I have no clue how to triage k3b bugs
[13:21] <apachelogger> most of them can be in just about any software involved
[13:22] <shadeslayer> "Cannot reproduce, do not have a cdrom"
[13:22] <shadeslayer> Mark as invalid -> done
[13:31] <ScottK> Has anyone experienced KDE Bug 321217 lately?  Seems to me it's ~fixed, so I'm not sure it needs a release note mention.
[13:31] <ScottK> apachelogger: ^^^ would you please decode that chatter in the bug.
[13:34] <apachelogger> ScottK: should be fixed as per 2dba9dc11341d5746dbcb04c1c689f2fae5f411f  from july 28
[13:35] <ScottK> I'l take it out then.
[13:38] <ScottK> Tough to find reported issues for the known problems section.
[13:39] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:44] <ScottK> soee: ^^^
[13:44] <smartboyhw> !testers | please test the latest image
[13:45] <lordievader> On it (the 64bit one).
[13:46] <soee> ..
[13:46]  * ScottK will start i386 shortly.
[13:46] <ScottK> Help welcome.
[13:47] <soee> downloading 64bit ... again :D
[13:47] <smartboyhw> soee, can't you use zsync
[13:47] <smartboyhw> !zsync | soee 
[13:49] <lordievader> Quite usefull, that zsync ^^
[13:49] <soee> oh nice one :D
[13:50] <ScottK> Yes.  zsyncing now.
[13:52]  * ScottK watches the download at ~3,300 kBPS and recalls he started at 110 BPS.
[13:52] <soee> ok done
[13:53]  * shadeslayer will test in a bit
[13:53] <shadeslayer> once I figure out this clusterfuck piece of software
[13:56] <soee> hmm
[13:57] <soee> the installer shouldnt suggest polish keyboard layout when Polish language was used  ?
[13:58] <dmatt> pls, fix the topic with link to new ISO
[13:59] <dmatt> thnx
[14:00] <shadeslayer> okay so this piece of software installs files in usr/local ... any ideas what I should do with them?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> because I get dh_usrlocal: debian/mintsources/usr/local/bin/software-properties-kde is not a directory
[14:01] <shadeslayer> and I get what the issue is, just not sure how to fix it
 (Also, don't panic, but we'll need another set of respins on top of the ones currently happening, that ubiquity upload has a regression we're hunting right now)
[14:19] <smartboyhw> Another set of respins:)
[14:19] <smartboyhw> (After the current)
[14:20] <shadeslayer> ...
[14:20] <ScottK> Maybe not for us.  It may be something we can avoid respinning Kubuntu for, so keep testing.
[14:21] <soee> ok 2 tests done, the entire disk and non-english live session (check comment here), now i have to go clean my car :) 
[14:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer: This does give us a small window for additional fixes if needed.  We are going to respin again.
[14:23] <shadeslayer> ScottK: true
[14:23]  * shadeslayer is still unsure what to do about his /usr/local files'
[14:54] <Riddell> rshort, caggers: not the brightest of customers http://pastebin.kde.org/ppxlbaiav
[14:57] <ScottK> I'm getting new screenshots for the upgrade instructions.
[14:58] <ScottK> So the instructions say to use kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade, but that's not going to work after release is it?
[14:58] <Riddell> ScottK: no that needs replaced with "launch muon" or "use systray thing" see the raring instructions for an example
[14:58] <ScottK> OK.
[14:59] <Riddell> also that needs tested which needs a web server set up
[15:00] <Riddell> put    changelogs.ubuntu.com  212.13.202.11   into /etc/hosts
[15:00] <Riddell> but the other way round
[15:01] <ScottK> Someone got a system they can upgrade (I already started)?
[15:01] <ScottK> If so, please ^^^ and take screenshots like those in steps 1 - 3 of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaringUpgrades/Kubuntu.
[15:06] <palasso> It seems this patch won't be applied to Muon on time for Kubuntu final release :( https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325636
[15:08] <smartboyhw> palasso, well, we can do it as a SRU
[15:08] <palasso> SRU?
[15:08] <palasso> stable release updates?
[15:09] <ScottK> Yes.
[15:09] <smartboyhw> palasso, yeah
[15:09] <ScottK> smartboyhw: Do you have a 13.04 system to upgrade to 13.10?
[15:09] <palasso> Yeah.... I tried to be in time for the ISO image because it could pop up to someone before doing the software updats
[15:09] <palasso> *updates
[15:09] <smartboyhw> ScottK, unfortunately, no.
[15:10] <palasso> This feature is commonly used before doing software updates
[15:11] <ScottK> apachelogger or shadeslayer: Can you look at ^^^?  It might be possible if it can be landed now.
[15:12] <palasso> It needs testing first! Don't put it blindly!
[15:12] <smartboyhw> Eh, I don't want to touch anything that hasn't been committed into upstream branch yet (I'm afraid:P)
[15:12] <palasso> I have attached files for testing it
[15:12] <ScottK> palasso: OK, then it should definitely wait.
[15:13] <palasso> I also emailed Jonathan Thomas to inform him of the bug and that prolly it can easily be fixed by applying the patch I submitted and that in less than 2 days Kubuntu'll get released
[15:13] <shadeslayer> qqq:q
[15:13] <shadeslayer> ....
[15:29] <apachelogger> ScottK: quality: unknown; veto landing :P
[15:29] <ScottK> apachelogger: Agreed.
[16:07] <apachelogger> random queston of the day: does discover actually have distribution upgrade capabilities?
[16:15] <ScottK> Anyone know where you turn of the new mail notification in kmail now?
[16:20] <ScottK> afiestas_: Is http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/no_battery.png a solid bug or battery monitor?  Is it one you know about already?
[16:20] <ScottK> That worked fine in 4.10.
[16:22] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I have to leave now, and I have no internet at home, can you take over >
[16:22] <shadeslayer> *?
[16:22] <ScottK> Yes.
[16:22] <shadeslayer> I'll be back tomorrow afternoon
[16:22] <shadeslayer> awesome
[16:22] <shadeslayer> thanks
[16:22] <ScottK> shadeslayer: What TZ are you in?
[16:22] <shadeslayer> CEST
[16:23] <ScottK> +2?
[16:23] <shadeslayer> Central European Time Zone (UTC+01:00)
[16:23] <ScottK> OK.
[16:23] <shadeslayer> it's 6:25 PM here, incase that helps :P
[16:24] <shadeslayer> alright, cya tomorrow afternoon
[17:27] <ScottK> If I even hover over p-w-menubar on my desktop install, kwin crashes repeatedly.
[17:46] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1240376] Plymouthd constantly using 5% of CPU time @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1240376 (by LeonMaxx)
[18:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, ScottK: CEST +2; CET +1
[18:04] <ScottK> Thanks.
[18:05] <apachelogger> ScottK: also that battery thing could be upower/kernel
[18:05] <apachelogger> if it were solid/batter plasmoid we'd see more reports
[18:26] <ScottK> apachelogger: See the background of the screen shot.  It shows upower reporting the batteries correctly.
[18:50] <ahoneybun> I want to order one as well, just have to see what money I have left after getting paid friday
[18:54] <apachelogger> I am nervous
[18:57] <apachelogger> ScottK: oh
[18:57] <apachelogger> ScottK: eh, actually it's not I think... conflicting information I see... it is at 0% but fully-charged
[18:58] <ScottK> Hmmm.
[18:58]  * ScottK looks again.
[18:58] <ScottK> apachelogger: So it is.  Thanks for pointing that out.
[18:58] <ScottK> afiestas_: Nevermind.
[19:00] <apachelogger> ScottK: solid-hardware details /org/freedesktop/........//battery_BAT0
[19:00] <apachelogger> what does that say?
[19:01] <apachelogger> ah, I see.. state is in the plasmoid only used to map to a string of what is going on
[19:01] <apachelogger> so yeah, upower says it is at 0% which is why the plasmoid is at 0%
[19:02] <ScottK> Fair enough.
[19:02] <ScottK> I'll file a kernel bug.
[19:02] <ScottK> err, upower
[19:05]  * apachelogger wonders if we'll have major relese breakage again :S
[19:11] <BluesKaj> are we there yet ? ...  :>)
[19:19] <apachelogger> sooooooooooo close
[19:19] <apachelogger> won't be able to sleep tonight :(
[19:22] <ScottK> Maybe final images building.
[19:53] <ahoneybun> ScottK: have you seen any dev make a new build of kubuntu-docs?
[20:02] <ScottK> ahoneybun: No.
[20:19] <ScottK> !testers | please test the latest image
[20:22] <soee> ...
[20:23] <soee> soee@TachikomDell:~/Pobrane$ zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20131016.1/saucy-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[20:23] <soee> failed on url http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20131016.1/saucy-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[20:23] <soee> could not read control file from URL http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20131016.1/saucy-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[20:23] <ScottK> Just give it a few minutes.
[20:23] <ScottK> We actually get the notification slightly before the images are there.
[20:25] <ScottK> soee: i386 is there now.  It wasn't before.
[20:27] <soee> zsyncing 64bit
[20:38]  * apachelogger gigles at bug 1240376
[20:39] <soee> dont tell me you will again replace images ..
[20:49]  * ScottK is out for awhile.
[20:49] <ScottK> soee: Nothing planned like that.
[21:26] <soee> https://plus.google.com/u/0/111596229357459833377/posts/6YGBAVF4qV7
[21:27] <soee> someone expirienced this ? Muon works fine for me
[21:27] <soee> *expe
[21:28] <valorie> soee: I just asked him on G+ to file a bug on launchpad
[21:29] <valorie> why does he think mentioning it on g+ is good enough for testing feedback?
[21:29] <valorie> sheesh
[21:30] <soee> im not sure if this is bug, i can't reproduce this
[21:30] <soee> though i did not upgrade to 13.10
[21:30] <soee> just installed if when it was in beta stage
[21:31] <soee> also valorie not all users know what launchpad is
[21:32] <soee> its easier for them to ask ok g+ for example
[21:33] <soee> but we should comment their post and there mention launchpad so user will know about it
[21:43] <ahoneybun> hey valorie
[21:43] <valorie> well, please expand on my answer if you think that is needful, soee
[21:44] <valorie> hi ahoneybun
[21:44]  * valorie is commencing backup on this box
[21:44] <valorie> and starting the upgrades on my test laptops
[21:44] <valorie> gosh, my netbook still had the euro-adapter on the plugin
[21:45] <valorie> it's probably so out-of-date it will take an hour or more just to get ready to start testing
[21:47] <ahoneybun> valorie: I'm going to add you as a manager on the Kubuntu Docs Google+ page
[21:47] <ahoneybun> as well as you lordievader
[21:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I would remove libreoffice and linux from the releae announcement, nothing very visually interesting in there
[21:50] <Riddell> I'd add about system cos it's elite
[21:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: user manager needs a new screenshot
[21:51] <Riddell> oh about system is in there
[21:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: are all those bugs still there?
[21:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: about system needs a new screenshot
[21:52] <Riddell> shadeslayer: link to distrowatch? item for commercial support?
[21:52] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1221750] sal does not reload menu entries @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1221750 (by Jonathan Riddell)
[21:53] <ahoneybun> Riddell: screenshot?
[21:57] <soee> ok i did 6/7 tests pls someone do the last one 
[22:00] <Riddell> ahoneybun: needed for https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SaucySalamander/Final1/Kubuntu
[22:00]  * Riddell high fives soee 
[22:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: convert to html and put on kubuntu.org, make nice banner picture, release! :)
[22:04] <ahoneybun> Riddell: need a new banner for the release?
[22:05] <ahoneybun> Riddell: also no news of the docs on the highlights
[22:05] <ahoneybun> ?
[22:07] <valorie> ahoneybun: if you write something up in the next couple of hours, I can help/edit/etc.
[22:08] <valorie> I'm pretty sure Riddell isn't going to be banging anything out one day out of hospital
[22:08] <valorie> and shadeslayer is home for the night with no internet
[22:09] <valorie> so if we want something, we're it
[22:09] <ahoneybun> valorie: I have no problem doing that I'll do it in a min
[22:12] <ahoneybun> just was worried about permissions lol
[22:13] <Riddell> ahoneybun: tsk, copy it from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SaucySalamander/Beta2/Kubuntu
[22:13] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yeah we'll need a new banner for release
[22:14] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I guess I have a reason to install gimp now lol
[22:16] <ahoneybun> valorie and Riddell I copied it but I think I'll added a bit more
[22:20] <ahoneybun> valorie: ready for editing :)
[22:37] <valorie> where, ahoneybun?
[22:37] <valorie> above link?
[22:41] <ahoneybun> yea
[22:42] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SaucySalamander/Beta2/Kubuntu
[22:44] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a594/AaronHoneycutt/kubuntu-1310_zpsd4482bcc.png
[22:45] <soee> i'v added 2 more iso test for i386
[22:46] <soee> now im going to bed, see you later
[22:47] <valorie> hmmm, my backup is failing
[22:47] <valorie> grrrr
[22:47] <ahoneybun> oh
[22:48] <valorie> http://pastebin.kde.org/pjxnshmiv
[22:48] <Riddell> ahoneybun: looks lovely but middle blue stripe should be a different shade I think, it's too close to the gear circle in the logo
[22:48] <valorie> I won't upgrade this box until it's backed up
[22:49] <ahoneybun> Riddell: yea 
[22:50] <ahoneybun> it is the default wallpaper for 4.10
[22:50] <Riddell> that's a trick I usually do, cut a bit off the default wallpaper :)
[22:52] <valorie> I agree though -- the gear disappears
[22:53] <dmatt> ISO 64 bit, during installation and also in newly installed system, removing cable does not change "connected" icon in tray to"not connected", even though correct disconnected status is shown in tooltip
[22:53] <dmatt> somebody sees tha same behaviour?
[22:53] <valorie> on the release notes -- why is the glow for Muon Discover pink?
[22:53] <valorie> looks bad
[22:54] <Riddell> valorie: yeah that should be redone too
[22:54] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ↑
[22:55] <valorie> is wireless setup in installer still crashing?
[22:57] <Riddell> nope
[22:58] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/AaronHoneycutt/media/kubuntu-1310-3_zps178f0dc3.png.html, http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/AaronHoneycutt/media/kubuntu-1310-2_zps27e7d8ef.png.html
[22:58] <valorie> Riddell: shall I comment out that bit then?
[22:58] <Riddell> ahoneybun: second one is the awesomeness for me
[22:58] <Riddell> valorie: from where?
[22:59] <ahoneybun> should I get the images for about system and muon discover from beta 2?
[22:59] <valorie> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SaucySalamander/Beta2/Kubuntu
[22:59] <ahoneybun> oh
[22:59] <ahoneybun> what 1310-3 Riddell?
[22:59] <Riddell> valorie: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SaucySalamander/Final1/Kubuntu is the one for now
[22:59] <Riddell> ahoneybun: nah http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a594/AaronHoneycutt/kubuntu-1310-2_zps27e7d8ef.png
[23:00] <Riddell> gets my vote
[23:00] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[23:00] <Riddell> but shadeslayer is incharge, he's the lead for now so persuade him :)
[23:00] <valorie> thanks, Riddell
[23:00] <ahoneybun> he's not here
[23:00] <valorie> shadeslayer is home for the night with no internet
[23:00] <Riddell> I hope he'll be back before tomorrow :)
[23:00] <valorie> ScottK: is nominally in charge, right?
[23:00] <valorie> yes
[23:01] <ahoneybun> Riddell: If I remember right this happened for the 13.04 release lol
[23:01] <Riddell> valorie: ScottK has the final ok for the release team
[23:02] <valorie> fortune smiles upon us
[23:02] <valorie> we'll get it all done, and done right
[23:03] <ahoneybun> yep
[23:08] <ahoneybun> valorie: did you look at the page
[23:08] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SaucySalamander/Final1/Kubuntu/
[23:08] <valorie> yes, I just finished with it
[23:08] <valorie> pink glow is horrible
[23:12] <ahoneybun> yea I know
[23:12] <ahoneybun> valorie: I'm downloading beta2 to get a new image mayeb
[23:15] <Riddell> ahoneybun: beta is old, download final candidate
[23:16] <Riddell> and the pink glow is just a silly setting on my laptop not something that's changed
[23:16] <apachelogger> eh
[23:16] <valorie> if it was all pink, fine
[23:16] <apachelogger> what's with the red glow on discover
[23:17] <apachelogger> oh, that's what ye talking about
[23:17] <valorie> I'm all for pink unicorns and general fluffiness
[23:17] <apachelogger> someone plese retake that nsapshot
[23:17] <apachelogger> the glow is just aggressive
[23:17] <apachelogger> makes me wanna throw keyboards at shadeslayer
[23:17] <apachelogger> and we can't have that
[23:17] <Riddell> only if they're soft rubber keyboards
[23:19] <ahoneybun> Riddell: but the release is tomorrow how will I get shadeslayer to ok the banner
[23:20] <apachelogger> you ring him out of bed
[23:20] <apachelogger> no business sleeping the night before release anyway
[23:20] <apachelogger> it's better than christmas, that's what it is
[23:21] <Riddell> ahoneybun: he'll get it tomorrow, it's lovely
[23:28]  * Riddell snoozes
[23:36] <ahoneybun> apachelogger: I don't have his number lol
[23:37] <ahoneybun> valorie: well the moment for our work to shine is almost here
[23:37] <ahoneybun> well the teams work
[23:44] <valorie> indeed
[23:44] <ahoneybun> :)
[23:44] <valorie> every release is so awesome
[23:44] <valorie> even more when you can look at something and say to yourself, I helped make that!
[23:44] <valorie> finally backup is humming, and so are the upgrading test boxes
[23:45] <ahoneybun> yep that is what makes this release in more so to mett
[23:45] <ahoneybun> me 
[23:46] <ahoneybun> that I kickstarted this
[23:46]  * valorie gives ahoneybun a Gold Star
[23:46] <valorie> wear it proudly, my man!
[23:47] <valorie> seriously, thanks so much for starting, and Never Giving Up
[23:48] <ahoneybun> :)
[23:50] <ahoneybun> it will get better
[23:50] <ahoneybun> for 14.04
[23:51] <valorie> for sure
[23:51] <valorie> our docs have never had a bunch of the stuff that we added
[23:51] <valorie> and esp. the install part I could have used so many times.....
[23:53] <ahoneybun> that you added
[23:53] <ahoneybun> ?
[23:53] <valorie> well, we all worked on it
[23:53] <valorie> i wish it was done
[23:53] <valorie> but oh, well
[23:53] <valorie> ok, dinner time
[23:54] <ahoneybun> ok