[00:55] <Roey> hi.  Why does my Python script (it uses virtualenv) complain it cannot find concurrent.futures even though I've installed it with apt-get and can import it fine at the Python command line?
[01:46] <t2mkn> my DVD writer died, I have kubuntu 12.04 .iso downloaded. is it possible to use the .iso from other partition to install it without writing it to a DVD ?
[01:46] <YOYO> flash drive it yo
[01:47] <t2mkn> yes i have
[01:48] <Skyfall> Pythonic
[01:50] <TheLambda> is irc normally this 'boring'?
[03:47] <wolftune> help, I am not updating correctly because of an error with procps
[03:47] <wolftune> I tried apt-get -f install
[03:47] <wolftune> no luck
[03:47] <wolftune> I found something somewhere indicating to try: cat /etc/sysctl.d/*.conf /etc/sysctl.conf | sudo sysctl -p -
[03:48] <wolftune> I did that and got a response that included:
[03:48] <wolftune> error: "Invalid argument" setting key "fs.inotify.max_user_watches"
[06:14] <xtriz> hi guys :D
[06:14] <hateball> hello to you
[06:14] <xtriz> i created custom Kubuntu, now should i remove the kubuntu related files or i can keep it ?
[06:14] <xtriz> hi hateball :)
[06:15] <xtriz> for eg, i customized plymouth theme, just changing logo and images, hence leaving the same kubuntu script. So is that ok ? or i should change where ever kubuntu is mentioned in that script ?
[06:29] <ooriggsoo> hey all quick question or two, the ia32-libs have been dropped for 13.10...... whats the alternative , and why was it dropped
[06:37] <xtriz> xtriz, anyone ?
[06:41] <tsimpson> xtriz: it's probably a good idea to change the branding if you create a custom spin-off
[06:42] <xtriz> tsimpson, ok
[06:43] <xtriz> tsimpson, thanks :)
[06:49] <xtriz> can i set the default theme i need to set from the kubuntu-settings-desktop ?
[06:54] <tsimpson> if you want, sure
[06:54] <tsimpson> Kubuntu generally uses whatever the KDE default is anyway
[06:58] <xtriz> tsimpson, great
[06:58] <xtriz> tsimpson, if in the config files i am replacing the dir with /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/ with /usr/share/my_custom_default-settings/
[06:59] <xtriz> then will the directory of /my_custom-default-settings/ will be automatically created ?
[07:03] <tsimpson> xtriz: I don't think so
[07:03] <xtriz> tsimpson, that means i need to create all those directories. ok
[07:18] <eagles0513875> hey guys im using kvm based vm's how can i take a snapshot of my vm?
[07:25] <raulduke> Hey, what is the packet manager GUI for Kubuntu 12.04?
[07:26] <raulduke> somehow I disinsstalled it acidently
[07:27] <alvin_> What's the current Twitter client of choice for Kubuntu?
[07:28] <alvin_> raulduke: personally, I have been using aptitude since 2004, and there have never been any problems. The graphical package manager changes almost every release. I think the current one is called "muon".
[07:29] <alvin_> i   kubuntu-desktop Recommends muon
[07:29] <raulduke> tank u
[07:29] <raulduke> but it's really ugly this muon
[07:31] <alvin_> I have no idea. Never started it.
[07:33] <alvin_> Well, let's do that for a change. muon-discover is the new one in Sauxy
[07:33] <noaXess> morning
[07:33] <alvin_> /Sauxy/Saucy
[07:33] <alvin_> Looks good actually
[07:33] <noaXess> anybody also have problem, that device notifier don't reconnect usb hd's which are configured to automount?
[07:42] <alvin_> Haven't tried that one either. Are the devices shown, but not mounted?
[07:43] <alvin_> Will there be a new version of Kubuntu Active? I've tried the daily two days ago. It was a disaster.
[08:14] <noaXess> alvin_: yes.. shown, settings corect. but need to manually mount it over dev. notifier
[08:53] <gaga_rin> hi, how  i can update Ubuntu 13.04 to Kubunut 13.04 ? with out reinstall system
[08:54] <skreech__> gaga_rin: sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:56] <gaga_rin> i don't want upgrade system, i want change unity to kde
[08:56] <skreech__> !kde
[08:56] <skreech__> !purekde
[08:57] <gaga_rin> ty
[09:10] <skreech__> gaga_rin: Welcome
[09:26] <yossarianuk> hey - is the new kubuntu out tomorrow ?
[09:46] <tsimpson> yossarianuk: yes
[09:51] <yossarianuk> tsimpson: groovey !
[09:51] <yossarianuk> every version of kde is better than the last ......
[09:52] <karlbehave> Hello!
[09:52] <karlbehave> !list
[09:57] <parta> hi everyone
[09:57] <parta> I was looking to install kubuntu and got this page
[09:57] <parta> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[09:58] <parta> but i am already on ubuntu, this page assumes that the user is coming from other operating systems. It will be awesome if this also has link to get kubuntu repos
[09:58] <lordievader> parta: You already have the kubuntu repos ;)
[09:58] <lordievader> parta: Simply run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" to install the kubuntu desktop :)
[09:59] <parta> but generally backports and others are not enabled
[09:59] <tsimpson> you don't need them to install stock kubuntu
[09:59] <parta> my bad though I assumed that even kubuntu will not be there
[09:59] <parta> I saw that after I had posted the question
[10:03] <eagles0513875> hey guys does the calendar feature in kontact if setup to use google calendar does it auto sync betwee what I have there and what I am putting on the calendar here
[10:14] <monkeyjuice> ive used thunderbird to do that eagles0513875
[10:17] <alvin> eagles0513875: It used to work, yes. I'm no longer using it though. Too risky putting your data on USA servers.
[10:18] <alvin> (So, yes, it'll probably still work)
[10:18] <eagles0513875> what other alternatives do i have to sync calendars between an android device and linux?
[10:18] <eagles0513875> unless i host my own calendar on my own server.
[10:20] <alvin> There are no alternatives to hosting your own server. No free ones at least. There's https://mykolab.com/
[10:21] <eagles0513875> i do have a server so that wouldnt be a problem
[10:22] <alvin> Then I think it's more important to know what actually works on Android. Kubuntu (Akonadi) has good standards support.
[10:23] <alvin> There's simply no comparison between Kmail and the Android mail app. (Please, please, let Kubuntu Active be active again.)
[10:27] <alvin> There was talk about the Kubuntu developers working together with Kolab, but nothing was heard after the initial annoucnement some years ago.
[10:49] <alvin> eagles0513875: I haven't thought about http://runners-id.com/ yet. Maybe you'd like to try that? 2GB free, and based on Owncloud, which has clients for Kubuntu.
[10:53] <jussi> alvin: everything on mykolab is able to be run on your own server...
[10:53] <alvin> Indeed. If you manage to install Kolab. My own installation is still Kolab2 on OpenPKG.
[10:54] <alvin> There was talk about cooperation between Kubuntu and Kolab, but at the moment their platform of choice is RedHat/CentOS. There are no Kolab packages in Debian/Ubuntu repo's.
[10:54] <alvin> (no working or up-to-date packages that is)
[11:19] <skreech__> !purekde
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:52] <skreech__> Hi BluesKaj
[11:54] <BluesKaj> hey skreech__
[11:54] <hackndoes_> Hi guys a small question, when should an automatic upgrade to 13.10 be available?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> hackndoes_. sometime tomorrow . if your package manager/updater is set to do so
[11:57] <hackndoes_> BluesKaj: what do you mean by meant to do so?
[11:58] <BluesKaj> set not meant
[11:58] <hackndoes_> yes sorry, what do you mean by set to do so?
[11:59] <BluesKaj> to upgrade to the next release
[11:59] <hackndoes_> BluesKaj: my realease upgrade category in software sources is set to Normal
[11:59] <hackndoes_> is that OK?
[12:00] <hackndoes_> will this release come with the 3.11 kernel?
[12:01] <BluesKaj> no , you have to find the setting in the package manager , or use the terminal and do , sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:01] <hackndoes_> BluesKaj: which setting do I need to find in muon?
[12:02] <BluesKaj> I Imagine it's full upgrade , dunno for sure
[12:04] <BluesKaj> when the new release is available , I do know that this works in the terminal , sudo do-release-upgrade , hackndoes_
[12:04] <hackndoes_> I find under software sources -> updates -> release upgrade -> "Normal Releases or Never or LTS" and I have Normal Releases selected
[12:05] <hackndoes_> BluesKaj: OK thanks. nothing else to do than that command? it's a single command that does the magic?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> hackndoes_. yes if the release is available in the repos
[12:05] <hackndoes_> great thanks
[12:06] <BluesKaj> hackndoes_. you might need some patience , sometimes it takes some time in my experience
[12:07] <hackndoes_> BluesKaj: that's OK I will do it when I am not on the computer giving it as much time as it needs. so you say I should try it tomorrow.... I will
[12:13] <BluesKaj> hackndoes_. make sure you do a regular update and dist-upgrade before running the do-release-upgrade command , to make sure you present packages are in an upgraded state.
[12:14] <hackndoes_> BluesKaj: thanks a lot man I will
[12:14] <hackndoes_> BluesKaj: appreciate it
[12:14] <BluesKaj> np
[12:30] <Macer> why doesn't my system settings have the ability to upgrade to 11.10?
[12:31] <skreech__> Macer: It will be rolled out for the auto system soon
[12:31] <Macer> yeah but i don't see the icon described in the kubuntu page in system settings
[12:32] <Macer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades/Kubuntu
[12:32] <Macer> in that example they are showing in system settings there should be a software management icon. i'm not seeing that
[12:32] <skreech__> Oh 11.10
[12:33] <skreech__> Macer: what version are you on?
[12:34] <Macer> 13.04 heh
[12:34] <Macer> sorry
[12:34] <Macer> didn't notice that was for 11.x
[12:34] <skreech__> Macer: Then it will be out soon. You can do an early upgrade if you want to. if not comfortable with that then just wait a bit :)
[12:37] <Macer> ah ok
[12:37] <Macer> i just thought for whatever reason my install wasn't working properly. thanks
[12:43] <skreech__> Macer: it hopefully isn't ":)
[13:28] <leftist> when i install konversation, doesnt matter what distro i am in, it always defaults to kubuntu as my starting channel. why is that?
[13:33] <tsimpson> leftist: if you share a $HOME between them, the settings will be shared
[13:37] <leftist> no these are independent drives tsimpson
[13:38] <tsimpson> leftist: but is there a separate partition?
[13:39] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:14] <leftist> tsmpson no. they are different drives with different os's on them.
[14:15] <leftist> i was just curious actually tsmpson
[14:15] <leftist> let me format this drive bbl
[15:00] <rethus> after upgrade kernel to 12.04.3 i can't login to x
[15:01] <rethus> even the dropdown where i can choose different plasma-sessions (below textfield for username and password) appear still default an safe-mode.
[15:02] <rethus> if i enter user and pass, the loginscreen disappaer, but the background-image still there. Nothing else happends.
[15:03] <rethus> any idea, what i can try to got this back to work?
[15:07] <Macer> wow
[15:07] <Macer> kubuntu still doesn't allow streaming video to a video player using dolphin?
[15:08] <Macer> or should i say kde?
[15:08] <Macer> that seems a bit fail
[15:09] <rethus> try vlc
[15:10] <Macer> i did
[15:10] <Macer> it seems like it is a known issue
[15:10] <Macer> dolphin can't seem to properly pass a method for video players to stream the video
[15:11] <Macer> it can't do it. it's borked
[15:11] <Macer> and even if it did manage to work. it does some idiocy like copying an entire file to a tmp dir then opening it
[15:11] <Macer> the smb support in dolphin is horrid
[15:12] <Macer> there also seems to be a problem wtih the built in wifi in this dell inspiron. i don't know what this proprietary module is doing but it totally destroys my 2.4GHz side of my router
[15:13] <Macer> then only gets 350K/s
[15:13] <Macer> it will spike at 700K/s
[15:14] <Macer> but this video streaming.. i mean it was a problem in 4.0.. now it's 4.10 or so and still can't simply double click a video on a smb share to play it?
[15:14] <PimpSmurf-School> I'm trying to boot kubuntu 13.10 beta 2 on a brand new Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro. When it gets past grub, the screen goes black and doesn't recover.
[15:14] <PimpSmurf-School> Is there something I can do to help get it to work?
[15:15] <PimpSmurf-School> I'm downloading 13.04 to see if it works. Then when I get home I have a gentoo system recovery disk that I can use to get hardware info off of the machine (hopefully)
[15:17] <Macer> hardware info off your machine?
[15:39] <ronnoc_> jussi: Ping
[15:39] <rethus> can i do a scan to got the needed driver for my graCard?
[15:40] <rethus> at the moment, xorg.log say "(o drivers available
[15:52] <xtriz> i am deriving a distro based on kubuntu, now i am modifying a packaged called kubuntu-system-settings, should i have to remove all the occurrences of the kubuntu from that file ? or just changing basic stuff like logo and text which is displayed as kubuntu is enough ?
[16:37] <rethus> when kubuntu 13.10 release?
[16:38] <rethus> but i cant upgrade fram 12.04 to 13.10, right?!
[16:43] <BluesKaj> rethus. no , a clean install after backing up your data is best
[16:44] <xtriz> i am deriving a distro based on kubuntu, now i am modifying a packaged called kubuntu-system-settings, should i have to remove all the occurrences of the kubuntu from that file ? or just changing basic stuff like logo and text which is displayed as kubuntu is enough ?
[16:45] <xtriz> if i want to ask some one from the kubuntu community where can i ask ?
[16:52] <xtriz> any senior to guide me ?
[16:58] <ikonia> xtriz: just ask the questions
[16:59] <ikonia> xtriz: if someone knows, they will respond
[17:00] <xtriz> ikonia, ok :)
[17:02] <xtriz> i have derived a distro based on kubuntu. Modified the packaged kubuntu-system-settings to change the icons and logos of kubuntu.
[17:03] <xtriz> other than that i have kept the package as it is with no changes.
[17:03] <ikonia> how is this anything to do with kubuntu - as you have built your own distro, not kubuntu
[17:04] <dolomite> I wouldn't even call it "building your own distro" lol
[17:04] <xtriz> ikonia, because kubuntu is a trademark and i need to consult them before i do anything.
[17:04] <xtriz> dolomite, just cuztomizing :P yeah you are correct
[17:04] <ikonia> are you using kubuntu logos ?
[17:04] <xtriz> ikonia, no i am not using kubuntu logos
[17:04] <ikonia> xtriz: then whats the problems ?
[17:04] <xtriz> also removed the kubuntu text that is displayed.
[17:05] <dolomite> xtriz are you planning on selling this distro to others?
[17:05] <xtriz> dolomite, not at all, it's completely free
[17:06] <dolomite> I'm no lawyer but this doesn't sound like an issue at all
[17:06] <rethus> i have an i7, should i use 64bit download, or x86?
[17:06] <dolomite> rethus 64bit
[17:07] <dolomite> (amd64)
[17:07] <rethus> k, thanks
[17:07] <xtriz> ikonia, i am confused that customizing kubuntu-system-settings, with only changed logos and keeping everything intact and renaming the package to  custom_distro-system-settings will that be fine ?
[17:07] <xtriz> dolomite, hopefully that's the case :)
[17:07] <rethus> how can i reset choosed selections in aptitude
[17:08] <dolomite> did aptitude replace muon in latest releases?
[17:11] <xtriz> ikonia, so i can use it in my custom distro ?
[17:11] <lordievader> dolomite: Why would aptitude replace muon? One is cli the other a gui.
[17:11] <ikonia> xtriz: I don't see why not
[17:11] <ikonia> xtriz: you are not using the kubuntu name or logos in anything
[17:11] <xtriz> ikonia, no i am not using kubuntu name or logos in anything.
[17:11] <ikonia> xtriz: I don't see an issue then
[17:13] <rethus> help
[17:13] <xtriz> ikonia, only some custom directories  are made for plymouth under the heading /kubuntu. i don't think that's a prob.
[17:14] <xtriz>  lib/plymouth/themes/kubuntu-text/kubuntu-text.plymouth.in
[17:14] <xtriz> but the text displayed is not kubuntu.
[17:14] <xtriz> in the theme when the system boots.
[17:16] <xtriz> ikonia, is that fine ?
[17:23] <ikonia> xtriz: I don't see why it wouldn't be
[17:24] <xtriz> ikonia, great :) thank you so much for creating all the confusions for me :)
[18:06] <Roey> Hello.  I'm trying to get OpenGL working for an OpenSUSE Virtualbox guest / Kubuntu 12.10 host.  I have OpenGL working on the host; when I try to switch KDE desktop effects' rendering mode from XRender to OpenGL, it complains that OpenGL is not available.  I have the latest Expansion Pack and Guest Additions installed.  How do I fix this?
[18:08] <PimpSmurf> I was trying to install kubuntu 13.10b2 to my Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro (haswell + intel hd4400 graphics). It black screens when it tries to load Xorg
[18:08] <PimpSmurf> Should I try something before changing to 13.04 or another distro?
[18:10] <backjlack> Hello. I'm running into this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-baseapps/+bug/995138 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unattended-upgrades/+bug/975909 Is there some way to CLEAR these software upgrade notifications?
[18:11] <backjlack> It's annoying me up to the point where I'd just switch to anything at all to not get the same warning about flash not being able to install...
[18:16] <sbivol> Roey: you are more likely to get help on #vbox on this issues
[18:16] <Roey> I cross-asked there.
[18:16] <Roey> I don't know if this is an issue iwth VirtualBox or with the OpenSUSE host
[18:16] <Roey> so I might as well ask in #suse as well.
[18:22] <sbivol> Roey: you should first find out whether opengl is supported by the driver you are using in OpenSuse. kinfocenter is a good tool for that
[18:22] <Roey> thanks
[18:22] <Roey> yes perfect, thank you
[18:44] <Guest68639> HI
[18:44] <Guest68639> got an issue with my sound on kubuntu
[18:44] <Guest68639> my HDMI output is not listed in phonon
[18:45] <Guest68639> my USB headset works fine, and the regular sound card is listed, but not the HDMI
[18:45] <Guest68639> any ideas how to fix this ? where to start ?
[19:00] <rodnice> Question: Need help with Linux Audio :_(
[19:03] <apb> Hello.  Using ubuntu 12.04... Getting an error: The server protocol version is 28, but at least version 33 is required. Install a newer version of the Akonadi server....   sudo apt-get install akonadi-server:  akonadi-server is already the newest version.  #akonadi says:then that really means your akonadi-server package isn't the right one
[19:03] <apb> so I'm not sure where to go from here
[19:24] <yossarianuk> rodnice: whats the issue?
[19:25] <rodnice> yossarianuk: after a few weeks, I've found that I need to route Pulse to Jack in order to here audio from VLC with pro audio applications open
[19:25] <rodnice> yossarianuk: http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/WalkThrough/User/PulseOnJack
[19:37] <rodnice> What would I need to do to edit alsa.conf?  "Access Denied"
[19:39] <lordievader> rodnice: You need root rights, put "sudo" in front of your editor command (nano, vi, vim, etc)
[19:39] <BluesKaj> rodnice. kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[19:40] <rodnice> come on... it can't be that simple.
[19:40] <rodnice> lol OK hold on...
[19:40] <lordievader> rodnice: Oh as BluesKaj said, if you use a gui editor, use "kdesudo".
[19:40] <BluesKaj> rodnice. what are you editing there?
[19:40] <rodnice> http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/WalkThrough/User/PulseOnJack
[19:41] <rodnice> BluesKaj: I'm trying to feed Pulse to Jack
[19:41] <lordievader> rodnice: May I ask why?
[19:42] <rodnice> lordievader: So I can have audio play with diverse latencies programs
[19:42] <BluesKaj> rodnice. my understanding about jack , which is very limited , is that youdon't need pulse
[19:42] <rodnice> play VLC tutorial while using Ardour
[19:43] <rodnice> BluesKaj: I'm not going to disagree with you since I need a good 2 years before I get used to Linux, but pro audio programs steal the sound and never relinquish it
[19:43] <rodnice> bullies
[19:43] <lordievader> rodnice: Not another pc/tablet around by any chance?
[19:44] <rodnice> lordievader: Actually I didn't notice it on mines until my friend noticed it on his.  We both jumped into Linux several weeks ago on our laptops.
[19:44] <BluesKaj> yes rodnice , linux audio , especially the pro stuff is very arcane and difficult for laymen like me to understand
[19:46] <lordievader> rodnice: Imo it is more toruble that it is worth.
[19:48] <rodnice> noooo!!! You guys are my role models! don't tell me that now! lol
[19:48] <rodnice> there has to be a solution!
[19:49] <ikonia> pro-audio + linux = fail
[19:50] <rodnice> BluesKaj: what is the "kdesudo kate" command? I would never have thought to do that.
[19:50] <BluesKaj> rodnice. what are you trying to do, setup a recording method with various inputs on your computer
[19:51] <lordievader> ^ that, for me it's one of the reasons to keep Windows around on my laptop. The other being photo-editing.
[19:51] <lordievader> The ^ was referring to ikonia's comment.
[19:51] <BluesKaj> alt+F2 , the enter the command I posted in the textbox aks krunner / run command
[19:51] <BluesKaj> then enter
[19:52] <BluesKaj> rodnice.^
[19:52] <rodnice> BluesKaj: I just want to hear audio from Hydrogen and something like VLC simultaneously
[19:52] <BluesKaj> why simultaneosly ?
[19:52] <rodnice> BluesKaj: watch a tutorial while using the software
[19:53] <BluesKaj> use the tutorial on computer and run the coomands etc on the other , your friend's
[19:55] <rodnice> BluesKaj: yeah my setup logic probably makes no sense to begin with
[19:55] <BluesKaj> correction ;read the turtorial on one computer , run the commands on the other, rodnice
[19:56] <rodnice> BluesKaj: Pro audio setups I guess don't really share with any other unnecessary programs
[19:58] <BluesKaj> if you guys are serious look into something like ubuntu-studio , rodnice
[19:58] <rodnice> BluesKaj: I kinda sort of am.  Looking at this line: Redirecting PulseAudio to JACK
[19:58] <rodnice> On Debian-like systems, be sure to install pulseaudio-module-jack. (TODO: Add information about Fedora, OpenSuSE and the lot)
[19:58] <rodnice> Then, use the following configuration if you intend to run jackd all the time:
[19:58] <rodnice> ~/.pulse/default.pa:
[19:59] <rodnice> BluesKaj: How do I access  ~/.pulse/default.pa?
[19:59] <rodnice> it seems empty
[20:00] <BluesKaj> rodnice. in your /home/user  enable hidden files
[20:01] <rodnice> BluesKaj: sweet! OK
[20:02] <rodnice> BluesKaj: Grrr... I'm attempting to use the windows method :-(
[20:02] <rodnice> Windows*
[20:02] <BluesKaj> rodnice. ~/  is short for /home/user
[20:03] <rodnice> BluesKaj: thanx, that was in the book I read but I need to keep practicing
[20:03] <BluesKaj> look in dolphin view > enable hidden files , if you installed default.pa
[20:04] <BluesKaj> i don't have that file
[20:04] <rodnice> BluesKaj: OK got it
[20:05] <rodnice> BluesKaj: And.... I'm no good :-(  Directory isn't on my system either
[20:05] <rodnice> BluesKaj: I guess tomorrow is another day
[20:06] <BluesKaj> rodnice. ok
[20:07] <rodnice> BluesKaj: brings me to what lordievader said about Windows
[20:07] <rodnice> Can I have a Linux system host a Windows 7 one?
[20:08] <BluesKaj> yes , in VirtualBox ...I ran windows7 on it for a while
[20:09] <BluesKaj> VB is just one of many virtual machines one can use on linux
[20:16] <rodnice> BluesKaj: OK, so I would get Virtual Box from the download center and go from there, correct?
[20:22] <apb> I don't seem to have printer manager installed...
[20:22] <apb> so I did an apt-get install print-manager ... but it doesn't show up on the K menu
[20:26] <PimpSmurf> Kubuntu 13.04 and 13.10 beta 2 confirmed not to boot on the Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro (Intel Graphics HD4400)
[20:30] <lordievader> rodnice: You don't want to run pro-audio within a VM...
[20:33] <lordievader> rodnice: For pro-audio you want your program to be as close to the hardware as possible. When you run your program inside a vm you add another virtualization layer in between program <-> hardware.
[20:36] <lordievader> rodnice: Also the ~/.pulse folder is empty by default. That folder is for user-configs of PulseAudio. I.e. if you want certain settings different from the system-wide config and only on your account you would place them in ~/.pulse/
[20:40] <rodnice> lordievader: Thanks much!  The VM thing was another challenge I was planning on tackling before I start bragging of Linux to my Windows-only friends.
[20:41] <rodnice> lordievader: I wasn't going to try to have such a complex setup on this old laptop :-D
[20:41] <rodnice> lordievader: ~/.pulse/ does not exist on my system at the moment though. I guess I need to do my research into that
[20:46] <rodnice> lordievader: I'll return again on some other day.  Thanx for all the help
[21:29] <Macer> hm
[21:29] <Macer> bluedevil is malfunctioning
[21:29] <Macer> the wizard for DUN and PAN won't start
[21:29] <Macer> linux: 20 years later and basic functionality still doesn't work heh
[21:48] <PimpSmurf> I finally got kubuntu 13.10beta2 installed by using acpi_backlight=vendor. Install went without error, however when it reboots, it hangs at the grub prompt.
[21:48] <PimpSmurf> Is there something I can do to help?
[21:49] <Addle> PimpSmurf: Do you mean it drops you at a grub> prompt?
[21:49] <PimpSmurf> yes
[21:49] <Addle> PimpSmurf: I fixed that by using boot-repair. Whoever wrote that deserves a medal. :)
[21:50] <PimpSmurf> the grub command?
[21:50] <Addle> PimpSmurf: Just make sure to disable stupid Secure Boot.
[21:50] <Addle> PimpSmurf: No, let me find a web page for it... sec...
[21:50] <Addle> PimpSmurf: Basically, boot into the bootable DVD, install boot-repair and follow instructions exactly.
[21:50] <PimpSmurf> ok
[21:51] <PimpSmurf> I already disabled secure boot. I'm guessing linux isn't secureboot friendly.
[21:51] <Addle> PimpSmurf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:51] <PimpSmurf> first computer with secure boot
[21:51] <PimpSmurf> TY Addle
[21:51] <Addle> PimpSmurf: Sure didn't work out for me with SecureBoot. But my buddy's Win8 boots and seems to run fine without it. Better without that abomination, anyways.
[21:51] <Addle> PimpSmurf: You're welcome :)
[21:54] <Addle> PimpSmurf: You can probably technically boot your system from that grub> prompt, BTW. For me, with the drive being the EFI partition and using GPT, "configfile (hd0,gpt2)/EFI/kubuntu/grub.cfg" worked. You can ls the contents with, for example ls to see the partitions and ls (hd0,gpt2)/ for seeing GPT partition 2. But anyways, boot-repair from DVD should fix it.
[21:56] <soee> also dont use beta2 but the final :)
[21:58] <Addle> soee: Oh, it's out! Thought that was tomorrow. Time zones, I guess. Sweet...
[21:58] <soee> Addle, not yet
[21:58] <Addle> soee: Did they fix those boot issues? Was a bit annoying.
[21:58] <soee> but the current iso is final
[21:58] <Addle> soee: Ah, ok. Thanks for the info.
[21:59] <soee> Addle, i just tested few installation options, they all worked just fine
[21:59] <Addle> soee: Good stuff :)
[21:59] <soee> and boot laso
[21:59] <soee> *also
[23:38] <Daskreech> apb: Still here? did you get the Akonadi figured out?