[00:05] <melodie> howdy Unit193
[00:06] <melodie> good night
[02:04] <franktmorgan> Hi!  Can someone help me get Java working on my "Raring Ringtail" system?
[02:06] <franktmorgan> I've posted my concern at the bottom of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2161996 , but I still haven't gotten a response yet.
[02:07] <franktmorgan> Anybody?  =)
[02:07] <LuvLinuxOS> can anyone point me in the right direction to finding a solution for large icons on the program menu?
[02:07] <LuvLinuxOS> thanks
[02:08] <LuvLinuxOS> franktmorgan: what jdk are you trying to install ? open or oracle?
[02:09] <franktmorgan> I started out with OpenJDK, but I'm not sure anymore that it's reliable.  Just tonight I thought I'd go with Oracle, but if I can get OpenJDK working, I'd settle for that.
[02:09] <Captain_Phil> My Menu://applications/ window never loads, just says it is loading and never finishes
[02:09] <Captain_Phil> Anyone have any idea what that is about?
[02:10] <franktmorgan> I dunno.
[02:11] <LuvLinuxOS> look here franktmorgan: http://thismagpie.blogspot.com/2012/07/installing-eclipse-juno-42-on-lubuntu.html
[02:11] <franktmorgan> Thanks.
[02:11] <LuvLinuxOS> you welcome
[02:12] <LuvLinuxOS> you will have to purge the open jdk though
[02:13] <franktmorgan> Already did that.  Went to Synaptic and completely removed all eight of my OpenJDK packages.
[02:14] <franktmorgan> So, Eclipse Juno 4.2 will enable me to use Java online?  I was having problems with that.
[02:22] <franktmorgan> LuvLinusOS I've gotta go.  Thanks for the recommendation!  I've got it bookmarked to go through the instructions tonight or tomorrow.
[02:27] <Captain_Phil> LuvLinuxOS are you free to give me a hand?
[02:57] <LuvLinuxOS> yes Captain_Phil
[02:57] <LuvLinuxOS> what do you need?
[03:22] <Captain_Phil> I am working from a fresh install
[03:22] <Captain_Phil> When I open  the file manager and click applications
[03:22] <Captain_Phil> It says it is loading but never loads
[03:31] <LuvLinuxOS> what version?
[03:32] <LuvLinuxOS> os?
[03:38] <Captain_Phil> sorry. lubunto
[03:38] <Captain_Phil> the newest one distro
[03:40] <LuvLinuxOS> 13.04 have you install display drivers?
[03:43] <Captain_Phil> yes
[03:43] <Captain_Phil> Menu://applications/ is the location not loading
[03:48] <LuvLinuxOS> have you tried reinstall pcmanfm manually?
[03:49] <LuvLinuxOS> what display driver did you install?
[03:55] <Captain_Phil> I guess the default one, I am going to see if I can find a non generic one
[04:07] <LuvLinuxOS> open the terminal and type lspci | grep VGA
[04:08] <LuvLinuxOS> this will tell you what type of display card you have then you
[04:08] <LuvLinuxOS> can search the net for the steps to insall
[04:08] <LuvLinuxOS> normally will be found in ubuntu wiki pages
[04:14] <Captain_Phil> Intel Corporation 2nd genrationn core proces or family intergrated graphics contreols (rev 09)
[04:19] <Captain_Phil> i have the driver it looks like
[04:19] <Captain_Phil> did apt get on xserver-xorg-video-intel and it said I already am good to go
[04:26] <puterjunkie> hello
[04:26] <puterjunkie> new here
[04:30] <puterjunkie> anybody
[04:30] <ianorlin> yes
[04:31] <puterjunkie> hey
[04:31] <ianorlin> what do you need help with?
[04:31] <puterjunkie> i aqm a big fan of linux /lubuntu os
[04:32] <puterjunkie> having problems with video converting software to dvd format
[04:32] <puterjunkie> any recommendations
[04:34]  * ianorlin isn't sure how to save to dvd format
[04:37] <Captain_Phil> are you burning dvds?
[04:38] <ianorlin> he is only in offtopic now
[04:39] <Captain_Phil> I really should keep my join and leave messeges on
[11:26] <amcsi_work> hi
[11:30] <amcsi_work> why is it that Lubuntu is one of the lowest PC requirement Ubuntu-bases distros, but Windows 98 still has a lower requirement by far? (16MB of RAM)
[11:32] <amcsi_work> now really
[12:31] <tsimpson> and MS DOS is has even lower requirements, doesn't even require a 32bit processor
[12:31] <tsimpson> but, is it actually useful today?
[12:32] <amcsi_work> tsimpson, no, but Windows 98 is
[12:32] <waykool99> i just heard in Ubuntu IRC,  Lubuntu might be a good replacement for U Studio v10.04.3 LTS 64 bit?
[12:33] <tsimpson> amcsi_work: really? you can install modern web browsers and office suites on it?
[12:33] <amcsi_work> I mean, it has a full gui and everything
[12:33] <waykool99> i'm an internet DJ -and- do tons of intense audio production w/Recording studio stuff
[12:34] <amcsi_work> tsimpson, that may not have been the case since about 3 years ago.
[12:34] <tsimpson> amcsi_work: the base OS doesn't need many resources, what people actually use their systems for does
[12:35] <waykool99> like idjc.sourceforge.net,  spend about 30 hours a week in Audacity, Sound Converter, Ardour gtk etc etc w/Gnome 2.
[12:36] <waykool99> might Lubuntu be a good alternative? (since my ubuntu studio v10.04.3 LTS 64 bit started a hairline crack, unrepairable)
[12:36] <waykool99> *DVD r
[12:37] <amcsi_work> tsimpson, I've compared win98 and Damn Small Linux on the same P3 800MHz computer before and browsing the internet was still a lot faster on Windows 98. I just don't get it how Windows 98 is faster even though it can seemingly do more than Damn Small Linux does.
[12:37] <amcsi_work> I do know for a fact though that Win98 is very buggy. Would thta be the sole trade-off?
[12:37] <tsimpson> it's probably faster because the browser is so dumb
[12:37] <waykool99> have DSL CD R's. i love it, but studio programs wont work in it :(
[12:38] <amcsi_work> tsimpson, no. I was using the latest Opera at that time while DSL was using an old Firefox 2
[12:39] <tsimpson> I've no idea then, I haven't used '98 in over a decade
[12:39] <waykool99> i've tried Desktop, Kubuntu. DSL, xyzUbuntu bla bla.  none compares to Studio
[12:39] <waykool99> wish Knoppix v7.0 worked. but Klaus Knopper doesn't recommend installing it
[12:40] <amcsi_work> :/
[12:41] <waykool99> i'd kill for a download ISO of studio v10.04.3 LTS 64 bit  :(
[12:41] <waykool99> its about 1.7 GB ISO
[12:43] <waykool99> my DVD-R started with a small crack. in a couple weeks, crack spread to the outer edge
[12:44] <waykool99> tried "dvdisaster" for 2 hours. couldn't recover the DVD
[15:14] <user8930> What's wrong with the desktop in 13.04?  It won't allow me to drag icons to the desktop from /usr/share/applications.
[15:14] <user8930> I should be able to drag n drop .desktop files but it's refusing.
[15:15] <user8930> why do they keep botching the desktop...why?
[15:21] <user8930> I can only drag a maximum of 12 icons then it refuses any more.
[15:22] <user8930> i'll logout and see if it refreshes the desktop.  brb
[15:29] <user8930> Re-arranging the desktop icons seems to have fixed the problem
[15:32] <user8930> Still a bug though, when you drag a bunch of icons onto the desktop it suddenly refuses to accept more until you re-arrange the desktop.  Now i'm getting "flying" desktop icons, a ghost icon moves across the screen
[15:33] <user8930> Drag 20 or 30 icons onto the desktop and see what i mean
[15:35] <user8930> happy bug fixing
[18:08] <clifter> Is this the right place for questions about LXDE?
[18:09] <Hinatschka> clifter: as long as you run it under Lubuntu yes, I guess ;)
[18:19] <clifter> Hinatshka: Ok thanks
[18:19] <clifter> Hinatschka: Thanks
[23:13] <utusan> new install for lubuntu-core but lubuntu-qt session is not coming out.  any ideas why?  I have razorqt as required.