[05:19] <mihir> nik90: ping !!!
[05:33] <mihir> mhall119: ping
[06:36] <mihir> popey: ping !!
[06:50] <popey> mi pong
[06:50] <popey> bah
[07:03] <mihir> dpm: good morning :)
[07:03] <dpm> morning mihir :)
[07:03] <mihir> dpm: I just upgraded my system , and also installed qtOrgainzor-eds
[07:04] <dpm> mihir, ah, awesome, did the upgrade go well?
[07:04] <mihir> still i am unable to create any event any idea ? am I left with any more dependency?
[07:04] <mihir> dpm: yeah it went well , but still not able to run calendar app smoothly :|
[07:05] <dpm> mihir, try 'sudo apt-get install qtdeclarative5-qtorganizer-plugin'
[07:06] <mihir> dpm: it is already installed on my machine
[07:06] <mihir> dpm: when I try to save event , the app get closed automatically
[07:10] <dpm> mihir, any error messages on the console?
[07:11] <dpm> mihir, you can try to do 'sudo apt-get install calendar-app' to make sure all dependencies are indeed installed
[07:12] <dholbach> good morning
[07:14] <mihir> dpm: i also did that too
[07:14] <dpm> morning dholbach
[07:15] <dpm> mihir, so what messages are shown in the command line before the app crashes? Without that, I'm running out of ideas
[07:15] <mihir> dpm: this is what I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/6244273/
[07:16] <mihir> If i run app, create event & save (the app get closed)
[07:16] <dpm> mihir, what do you get when running 'apt-cache policy qtorganizer5-eds' ?
[07:17] <dholbach> hey dpm
[07:17] <mihir> dpm: this is what I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/6244275/
[07:20] <dpm> mihir, and what happens when you try to run '/usr/lib/evolution/evolution-source-registry' ?
[07:20] <mihir> dpm: bash: /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-source-registry: No such file or directory
[07:20] <dpm> aha
[07:20] <dpm> mihir, try to run 'sudo apt-get install evolution-data-server'
[07:23] <mihir> dpm: bingo it did work :-D
[07:23] <mihir> dpm: why this wasn't installed as dependecy ? :(
[07:23] <dpm> mihir, awesome. I don't know, I would have expected it to be :/
[07:24] <dpm> mihir, would you mind reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-calendar-app/event-detail-fix-fields-1240241/+merge/191301 ?
[07:26] <dpm> mihir, note that in that branch I disabled the "Edit event" action until the edit event branch has landed
[07:27] <mihir> dpm: okay :) yes I am just reviewing the code
[07:31] <mihir> dpm: approved :)
[07:32] <mihir> dpm: I guess those changes I had already covered into my MR , anyway I approved it
[07:33] <dpm> great, thanks mihir. I wanted to have them in there in case the edit event branch doesn't make it to the image
[07:36] <dholbach> daker, great blog post!
[07:54] <dpm> mihir, how are you getting on with your edit event branch?
[07:54] <mihir> dpm: I am stuck , but trying to resolve it , i am not much aware of EDS , so need some time
[08:12] <mihir> dpm: ping !!
[08:13] <dpm> hi mihir
[08:13] <mihir> dpm:  the guest entries should be comma seprated?
[08:14] <dpm> mihir, I don't know, sorry. I was also struggling to find any documentation on Qt Organizer or EDS. You might have to do some trial and error in the meantime.
[08:14] <mihir> dpm: okay i am almost done, how much time do we have ??
[08:15] <dpm> mihir, actually, we don't have any time left, but it'd be good to get this in and make it available post-release
[08:25] <daker> dholbach: thanks!
[08:32] <janimo`> what are comments like //![0] and //![1] used for in QML? I cannot seem to find anything on google
[08:34] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Global Dignity Day! :-D
[08:57] <t1mp> janimo`: I haven't seen that before.
[08:57] <mihir> hi dpm
[08:58] <janimo`> t1mp, it is in many qml example files, for ex: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/examples/quick/tutorials/samegame/samegame1/samegame.qml
[09:11] <dpm> mihir, pong
[09:32] <gusch> oSoMoN: hi - sorry forgot to log into IRC this morning
[09:32] <gusch> oSoMoN: that bug - yes it's know, it's a duplicate in fact
[09:32] <oSoMoN> gusch: hey, no worries, that happens to me sometimes too :)
[09:32] <gusch> oSoMoN: I have a workaround, but not a perfect one
[09:32] <oSoMoN> gusch: ok, can you mark it as such?
[09:32] <gusch> oSoMoN: did already
[09:33] <oSoMoN> gusch: thanks!
[09:36] <mihir> dpm: here is my MR , I am done with editing  https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calendar-app/editEvent/+merge/190106 :)
[10:30] <daker> hey mihir line 123 why did you do this event.description = "messageEdit.text"; ?
[10:30] <daker> it should be event.description = messageEdit.text; no ?
[10:36] <mihir> daker: yes ,
[10:36] <mihir> daker: my mistake
[10:36] <daker> :)
[10:37] <mihir> daker: updated :)
[10:37] <mihir> and pushed , thank you for your time
[10:42] <daker> mihir: i do get NewEvent.qml:69: ReferenceError: errorDlgComponent is not defined
[10:44] <daker> mihir: it's has been changed to errorPopupDialog
[10:46] <mihir> daker: Hmmm, when there is an error regarding time right ?
[10:46] <daker> mihir: yes
[10:47] <daker> startDate >= endDate
[10:51] <mihir> daker: i didn't change anything..i just merged code and also couldn't find any conflicts in this
[11:06] <daker> hey oSoMoN
[11:06] <oSoMoN> hey daker
[11:07] <daker> i am trying to install the webbrowser deps (libqt5v8-5-private-dev) but i am getting : Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites : libqt5v8-5-private-dev : Dépend: libqt5v8-5-dev (= 5.0.2-3) mais 5.0.2-3ubuntu1~quantal1~test1 devra être installé
[11:08] <oSoMoN> daker: you’re on quantal?
[11:08] <daker> oSoMoN: no Saucy
[11:09] <daker> i upgraded from 13.04 months ago
[11:10] <mihir> daker: found issue , resolved
[11:11] <daker> mihir: ok :)
[11:25] <daker> oSoMoN: any idea ?
[11:26] <oSoMoN> daker: no, let me test something, I’ll ping you back
[11:27] <daker> ok
[11:32] <daker> oSoMoN: :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/6245151/
[11:34] <oSoMoN> daker: looks like you have a quantal PPA enabled somewhere
[11:34] <oSoMoN> daker: 5.0.2-3ubuntu1~quantal1~test1 is suspicious, on saucy…
[11:41] <oSoMoN> daker: I just successfully installed the build deps and compiled webbrowser-app in a clean saucy chroot
[11:41] <daker> oSoMoN: ok trying to figure out how to clean the source.list
[11:42] <oSoMoN> daker: grep -rn quantal /etc/apt/sources.list*
[11:43] <daker> nothing...
[11:43] <oSoMoN> weird
[11:43] <daker> l moved all files from sources.list.d
[11:44] <daker> oSoMoN: because i did this Quantal -> Raring -> Saucy
[11:45] <daker> oSoMoN: anyidea how to cleanup the APT db ?
[11:48] <oSoMoN> daker: no, but you can do the following to see which packages have a quantal version installed: dpkg -l *qt5* | grep quantal (be sure to do this in a wide-enough terminal window)
[11:48] <oSoMoN> daker: then for each of those packages, apt-cache policy $packageName will tell you what versions are available
[11:50] <daker> oSoMoN: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6245216/
[11:54] <oSoMoN> daker: ok, so what’s the output of "apt-cache policy $packageName" for each of those packages?
[11:57] <daker> oSoMoN: not all http://paste.ubuntu.com/6245248/
[11:59] <oSoMoN> daker: ok, so for those packages that already have a "*quantal*" version installed, you’ll have to manually downgrade to the other version that’s available from the archive, e.g. "apt-get install libqt5v8-5=5.0.2-3"
[12:00] <daker> oSoMoN: ah ok i see
[12:09] <daker> oSoMoN: it works!
[12:19] <daker> oSoMoN: i am trying to implement bug 1170138
[12:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1170138 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "[browser] Add support for HTML5 time input" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1170138
[12:19] <mihir> dpm: i did revert, but it shows no change .
[12:28] <dpm> mihir, as you've committed the change already you'll need to revert to a previous revision of the manifest, then commit, and then push
[12:39] <mihir> dpm: done :)
[12:54] <oSoMoN> daker: sounds good, you should get in touch with Zsombor from the SDK team, I think he’s been working on a generic date/time picker widget
[12:54] <oSoMoN> daker: he’s on holidays atm though
[12:55] <daker> oSoMoN: i'll use the one used by the calendar app
[12:57] <daker> oSoMoN: so far http://paste.ubuntu.com/6245499/ i am still unable to figure out how to trigger a signal on the app not the plugin
[13:03] <mhall119> mihir: pong
[13:06] <dpm> mihir, approved the edit event branch, thanks!
[13:06] <mihir> dpm:  thank you :)
[13:06] <dpm> mihir, since it's related to editing events, would you be interested in looking at this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1240505
[13:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1240505 in Ubuntu Calendar App "There is no way to delete an event" [High,Triaged]
[13:07] <mihir> dpm: sure I'll now look into it :)
[13:08] <dpm> mihir, cool, thanks. Once you start, could you assign yourself to it and mark it as In progress, so others know it's beind worked on?
[13:08] <mihir> dpm: sure , once I start I'll do it :)
[13:08] <dpm> perfect, thanks again mihir!
[13:44] <dholbach> beuno, and a new myapps deployed - nice
[13:44] <dholbach> looks like we can close a couple of bugs of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=appstore - right? :)
[13:45] <beuno> dholbach, indeed we can. And the complete re-design is in the queue for deployment today
[13:45] <dholbach> beuno, it looks different already
[13:48] <beuno> dholbach, oh!  it just got deployed  :)
[13:48] <dholbach> there you go :)
[14:00] <GuidoPallemans> mhall119: got a link?
[14:02] <GuidoPallemans> smartboyhw: are you in a hangout?
[14:03] <smartboyhw> GuidoPallemans, no and can't attend, I have to revise for the biology test....
[14:03] <smartboyhw> dpm, ^
[14:03] <GuidoPallemans> k
[14:07] <mhall119> GuidoPallemans: link to what?
[14:07] <smartboyhw> dpm, can you sent some sort of summary or anything to me abut the meeting results after you guys finished?
[14:07] <GuidoPallemans> sorry, it was to the hangout, but i got the wrong name
[14:09] <dpm> smartboyhw, sure
[14:10] <dpm> smartboyhw, what's the status of [smartboyhw] Get a list of notes from the Evernote API and display them: INPROGRESS ?
[14:11] <smartboyhw> dpm, actually, I'm investigating about the Apache Cordova library, the API best works with it, but dunno what to do with the library....
[14:16] <dholbach> mhall119, do you know if the source of "random images" is available somewhere?
[14:18] <daker> oSoMoN: remember one thing for the ua-override if it's a Google product use the Android UA
[14:21] <oSoMoN> daker: yeah, I think it’s a rather good rule of thumb :)
[14:21] <mhall119> dholbach: I don't, no
[14:26] <daker> oSoMoN: try using the same rule as G+
[14:26] <oSoMoN> daker: for maps you mean?
[14:26] <daker> oSoMoN: yes
[14:27] <dholbach> mhall119, ok, thanks
[14:27] <oSoMoN> daker: I tried that, and I also tried a plain Chrome on Android string, but it’s not any better
[14:31] <daker> oSoMoN: thoses cases where you only get the desktop version only the UA of the second request get overrided (https://maps.google.com/mapfiles/home3.html)
[14:32] <oSoMoN> daker: nope, the UA of both requests is overridden
[14:32] <daker> oSoMoN: that's not the case for me
[14:33] <oSoMoN> daker: how do you evidence that?
[14:34] <daker> oSoMoN: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6245921/
[14:35] <daker> oSoMoN: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6245923/
[14:36] <oSoMoN> daker: heh, you’re right, I’m seeing that too now
[14:37] <oSoMoN> daker: so it seems there’s something broken in the UA override mechanism itself…
[14:37] <daker> oSoMoN: ya
[14:37] <oSoMoN> :/
[14:37] <daker> the first request is not overrided
[14:37] <daker> oSoMoN: try this : http://maps.google.com
[14:37] <daker> it will redirect to https
[14:38] <daker> always the first request is not overrided
[14:41] <oSoMoN> daker: interesting, there’s something really wrong there, I’ll dig in QtWebKit’s code to understand why that’s happening (in theory the onNavigationRequested handler should be called before issuing the HTTP request)
[15:09] <daker> oSoMoN: i am also trying to see what's wrong here it's correct http://paste.ubuntu.com/6246074/ but the inspector shows that the UA of the first request is Mozilla/5.0 (Ubuntu; Mobile) WebKit/537.21
[15:26] <wellsb> dpm: Thanks for getting the judges' showdown feedback out
[15:28] <wellsb> It seems some of the judges had difficulties figuring out the basic navigation structure of Ubuntu Touch.  I wonder if general users may have the same issues.  https://plus.google.com/110587021591787005452/posts/ZYA1k6bSERg
[15:30] <balloons> ping nik90
[15:41] <dpm> wellsb, you're welcome
[16:19] <dpm> nik90, you use the qt organizer plugin in clock, don't you?
[16:19] <dpm> The reason I'm asking is because it seems the QML plugin for it is not installed by default in the images
[16:20] <dpm> so the latest calendar does not run properly when trying to save an event. I'm wondering why we didn't notice this before with the clock
[16:32] <WebbyIT> hey popey, can you set this branch for calendar as "approved"? Mihir did it, but then an autopilot fails, and now branch waiting only a change of status :)
[16:32] <WebbyIT> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calendar-app/1231136/+merge/188002
[16:33]  * popey looks
[16:35] <popey> ok
[16:35] <WebbyIT> was an odyssey that branch
[16:36] <WebbyIT> thanks popey :)
[17:05] <nik90> dpm: sry, was cooking dinner
[17:05] <nik90> dpm: I dont use qt organizer
[17:05] <dpm> nik90, no worries, I've figured it out
[17:06] <dpm> yeah, I forgot about the alarms api
[17:06] <nik90> dpm: I only use the Alarms API whihc in terms uses EDS
[17:06] <nik90> dpm: exactly
[17:09] <balloons> ping nik90
[17:13] <nik90> balloons: pong
[17:15] <balloons> nik90, so I'm playing with alarms trying to write tests and finding some interesting interactions. got a min?
[17:15] <nik90> balloons: yeah go ahead
[17:16] <balloons> nik90, so first of all, sometimes the option I selected disappears from the dropdown. Secondly, I'm unsure of why the save button stays locked for so long. it seems like i have to change every field before I can save
[17:18] <nik90> balloons: I noticed the option disappearing rarely..however the save button locking is due to the EDS processing...only after EDS has saved the alarm, the add alarm page will disappear taking you back to the main page.
[17:18] <nik90> balloons: but what did you mean by changing every field?
[17:19] <nik90> balloons: changing the time alone should be sufficient
[17:19] <balloons> nik90, I mean go create a new alarm and immeadiately hit save
[17:19] <balloons> it won;'t let you.
[17:19] <nik90> balloons: on phone?
[17:19] <balloons> change the time, still can't
[17:19] <balloons> change label, nope
[17:19] <balloons> change occurs and repeats too? ok
[17:19] <nik90> balloons: if you are setting the time for today, that time has to be after the current time
[17:20] <balloons> hehe, that did it
[17:20] <nik90> balloons: yeah you cant set an alarm in the past :)
[17:20] <balloons> the lack of response isn't helpful, but yes makes sense :-)
[17:21] <nik90> balloons: I will report a bug about the lack of response
[17:21] <nik90> balloons: the thing is we dont have a design for showing user about failures etc
[17:21] <balloons> ok.. so that just leaves the option for disappearing things
[17:21] <balloons> nik90, yes it's lacking across the board I think
[17:21] <nik90> balloons: true
[17:22] <nik90> balloons: so If I am right, today is wednesday, and if you choose wednesday that option disappears
[17:22] <nik90> is that right
[17:23] <balloons> nik90, yes
[17:23] <balloons> it gets the alarm correct still
[17:23] <nik90> balloons: yes..it is an interaction bug with the option selector alone,. shouldnt affect the alarm saving..
[17:23] <nik90> but I agree it is a bug
[17:28] <balloons> nik90, alright I'll keep moving
[17:31] <popey> beuno: "Changes can not be accepted and published at this time. Please try again later.
[17:31] <popey> wossat?
[17:35] <beuno> popey, checking
[17:35] <popey> thanks
[17:41] <nik90> balloons: bugs reported
[17:49] <beuno> popey, trying to figure out what it is
[17:49] <beuno> retrying may work
[17:50] <popey> beuno: retrying did work
[17:50] <beuno> popey, I have the original error, so I'll chase that into oblivion
[17:51] <popey> thank you!
[17:59] <popey> beuno: There was an error connecting to the download server. Please try again later.
[18:00] <beuno> popey, yeah, something like half the threads are in an error state
[18:00] <popey> retrying worked
[18:01] <beuno> getting it restarted
[18:10] <balloons> nik90, the alarmlist objects persist after you delete them
[18:10] <balloons> it's weird
[18:34] <balloons> nik90, ping
[18:40] <om26er> renato_, what talks to eds in the address-book-app chain ?
[18:41] <om26er> does the address-book directly talks to EDS or QtOrganizer does that ?
[18:41] <renato_> om26er, the contact-service
[18:41] <renato_> app -> contact service -> eds
[18:41] <om26er> renato_, what's the project name ?
[18:41] <renato_> address-book-service
[18:42] <om26er> renato_, I have not digged much deeper, so I was thinking of mocking eds dbus api for writing autopilot tests for the address-book
[18:42] <renato_> om26er, I am trying to figure out how to create unit test for the server without change the the user space
[18:43] <renato_> om26er, let me show something
[18:43] <renato_> om26er, i am trying to help the folks guys on that
[18:43] <renato_> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648811
[18:43] <ubot2> Gnome bug 648811 in general "Add a dummy backend" [Normal,New]
[18:43] <renato_> this should solve our test problems
[18:44] <renato_> but this will take a while to get ready
[18:45] <om26er> renato_, right. So I guess you will get a bit time in the 14.04 cycle to solve that ?
[18:45] <renato_> om26er, yes this is what I want, I need to check with bfiller the priorities but I hope I can spend some time on that,
[18:45] <renato_> om26er, I am working on that right now
[18:46] <renato_> om26er, but this will take more than days to get ready
[18:47] <om26er> renato_, do you think we can go with a short term "hack" for this problem? once you complete that branch we can switch tests to your solution
[18:48] <om26er> but for now I am willing to create a contact on the fly. it will atleast give us some coverage
[18:48] <renato_> om26er, I do not have a short solution for that
[18:48] <renato_> om26er, you can try to change the manager to use "memory" this should give you something to work
[18:49] <om26er> renato_, if I change the manager to memory I was still seeing my old contacts
[18:49] <renato_> I can add a argument on the app to make this easy
[18:49] <bfiller> renato_: that's what I was going to suggest, no need to mock eds
[18:49] <renato_> bfiller, but this does not solve the server  test problem
[18:49] <bfiller> renato_, om26er : either flat file or memory backend should be fine for testing the api
[18:49] <bfiller> renato_: what is the problem exactly?
[18:50] <om26er> renato_, ok add an argument to change the backend to memory instead of galera and I'll write tests with that
[18:51] <renato_> bfiller, for the server we need to get this bug fixed: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648811
[18:51] <ubot2> Gnome bug 648811 in general "Add a dummy backend" [Normal,New]
[18:51] <renato_> the app I think we are fine with memory
[18:51] <renato_> since this does not try to interact with dialier-app or message-app
[18:51] <renato_> om26er, ^^^
[18:52] <om26er> renato_, I actually want to write integration tests as well. to make sure the phone and message button takes us to the related app.
[18:52] <renato_> om26er, "memory" backend does not share contacts btw apps
[18:53] <om26er> renato_, alright, lets first get started on writing a few UI tests then
[18:54] <renato_> om26er, ok give me some time to implement that
[18:54] <bfiller> renato_, om26er : why can't we use address-book-service with it's eds backend for testing?
[18:55] <renato_> bfiller, eds backend will create users on "user space/address book"
[18:55] <bfiller> renato_: is that a problem?
[18:56] <renato_> besides that the user "address book" is unpredictable you do not know which is the address book exists, how many users they have
[18:56] <bfiller> renato_: can make a temporary address book that gets deleted after the tests?
[18:56] <renato_> bfiller, if the tests crash in the midle
[18:56] <renato_> you can corrupt the user address book
[18:56] <renato_> this is not the correct way to go
[18:57] <mrqtros> Hi folks!
[18:57] <balloons> dpm_, popey nik90 https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-clock-app/alarm-tests/+merge/191482
[18:57] <om26er> my idea was backup the contacts, delete the db, paste our test database, run the test, delete the db and then restore the original database back..
[18:57] <om26er> but as renato_ says if the test crashes, we won't restore it
[18:58] <bfiller> renato_: if you have a know address book for tests and use that I don't see what the problem is. Can be different for each test or the same and can be deleted when tests start or finish
[18:58] <bfiller> you can have multiple db's with eds I think
[18:58] <mrqtros> Is there any work in progress about localized input? :) Currently there are only one english keyboard
[19:00] <bfiller> mrqtros: yes there is
[19:00] <renato_> bfiller, we can no relay on user enviroment to create unit tests, this will cause more problems than solve  :D
[19:00] <renato_> bfiller, lets go with the dummy folks backend this is the correct solution
[19:01] <bfiller> renato_: I think I'm confused about what we're trying to accomplsih. dummy folks backend seems like the wrong place to me
[19:01] <renato_> meanwhile I will help om26er to to use memory backend on contacts app
[19:01] <bfiller> should have nothing to do with folks
[19:02] <renato_> bfiller, we use folks on the contacts-service we do not talk direct with EDS
[19:02] <bfiller> renato_: if we're trying to write unit tests for the address book service, then address-book-service needs to bypass EDS for unit tests
[19:02] <renato_> bfiller, the dummy backend will allow us to programatically create/remove/edit users
[19:03] <mrqtros> bfiller cool! Can you approximately say when we will see this feature
[19:03] <renato_> then we can simulate any change and tests the results on the server
[19:03] <bfiller> renato_: lets discuss this more next week before you guys do anymore work on it
[19:04] <om26er> renato_, btw do you if eds provides a dbus api to lets say add/delete contacts ?
[19:04] <bfiller> mrqtros: within the next month or so. there is already language switching support in the keyboard it just hasn't landed and we only have about 5 or 6 langs impelmented
[19:05] <bfiller> om26er, renato_ : just to be clear: we should not be doing anything eds specific. All tests should be exercising the address-book-service api or the QtContacts api. those are our public api's
[19:05] <renato_> om26er, EDS uses dbus API, but we should use the C library for that
[19:05] <mrqtros> bfiller I (from Russia) and my mate (China) can help :)
[19:06] <renato_> bfiller, I am talking about the address-book-service unit tests :D
[19:06] <renato_> om26er, is talking about the contact-app tests
[19:06] <om26er> and I am talking about address-book-app autopilot tests.
[19:06] <om26er> right.
[19:06] <renato_> to solve the omer problem we can go with memory backend this will be enough I think
[19:07] <mrqtros> bfiller we can take care of our native languages support :)
[19:07] <renato_> since omer wants to test the app itself not the service
[19:07] <renato_> the service need to have his own tests
[19:07] <bfiller> mrqtros: cool, take a look at this MR: https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-moenicke/ubuntu-keyboard/ubuntu-keyboard-language-menu-2/+merge/190657. It adds initial support to the keyboard to switch langs
[19:08] <bfiller> renato_: yes agreed
[19:09] <popey> nik90: are you able to review that from balloons ?
[19:10] <balloons> dpm_, popey nik90 it's not quite ready, sorry I meant to say that as well. I've got more stuff to add, it's just the first pass
[19:10] <popey> kk
[19:10] <bfiller> mrqtros: basically you just need to make qml layouts for your keyboard language and that is basically it
[19:10] <bfiller> mrqtros: once this MR lands then you can switch langs via a key on the osk
[19:18] <mrqtros> bfiller I can try make it :)
[19:20] <Guest52583> Hello guys
[19:20] <Guest52583> howz going
[19:26] <nik90> popey: will review when it is ready
[19:26] <popey> thanks
[19:26] <nik90> balloons: just let me know when it is ready ofr review
[19:52] <iBelieve> popey, ping
[19:53] <popey> iBelieve: yo
[19:53] <iBelieve> popey, I've got a few questions about LP #1239460
[19:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1239460 in Ubuntu File Manager App "Selecting file and tapping 'Open' does not open the file" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1239460
[19:54] <iBelieve> popey, first of all, do you experience that bug at all?
[19:56] <popey> lets see
[19:57] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-10-16-205634.png
[19:57] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-10-16-205643.png
[19:57] <popey> thats what I get, clicking open does nothing ☹
[19:58] <iBelieve> popey, okay, thanks. Do you know if URL opening is working on the phones at all? I know it wasn't working awhile back, but I thought it got fixed.
[19:59] <popey> iBelieve: works on app by app basis, docviewer should work..
[20:00] <iBelieve> popey, so is there a specific type of file I should ask the bug's reporter to try opening to see if it is a problem in our code or an SDK bug?
[20:01] <popey> pdf should open in the doc viewer, if it doesnt and you can't launch from file manager to doc viewer then its a bug
[20:01] <popey> which may require changes in both apps
[20:02] <iBelieve> popey, okay, thanks. I'll ask the bug's reporter to try that.
[20:02] <mrqtros> popey ping
[20:05] <mrqtros> popey it's already midnight in Russia (in part of Russia where I am living), and do you wanna know what I can see on the screen of my phone now? :) Top right corner clock says "12:04 AM", while "Clock" app says "0:04"
[20:06] <mrqtros> popey desktop Ubuntu says "00:04" too
[20:07] <mrqtros> popey I think UP should use unified format of displaying time
[20:10] <popey> mrqtros: I agree! :D
[20:11] <mrqtros> popey you know who is responsible, I think, so notify them please ;)
[20:11] <randomcpp> hi everybody :)
[20:15] <popey> hi
[20:15] <popey> mrqtros: pretty sure it's well known :)_
[20:15] <mrqtros> hello randomcpp
[20:17] <randomcpp> sorry if I'm not working on touch app as promised, but I've been very busy with university lessons..tomorrow is the big day, isn't it? :)
[20:17] <mrqtros> randomcpp which app do you mean? :)
[20:18] <mrqtros> randomcpp for me it's already today :)
[20:19] <randomcpp> saucybacon and calendar (I wanted to help on that app)
[20:19] <randomcpp> mrqtros, almost 2 hours to go for me :p
[20:21] <mrqtros> randomcpp cool :)
[20:22] <mrqtros> I don't event know who won Showdown, forgot to see results
[20:24] <mrqtros> randomcpp congratulate you ;) I've seen result only now :)
[20:24] <randomcpp> mrqtros, eheh thank you
[20:25] <mrqtros> randomcpp Sad that I was disqualified (already got phone from Canonical as core app developer), but I like competitions.
[20:25] <mrqtros> randomcpp my app - YaD
[20:25] <mrqtros> randomcpp ported from MeeGo - but my app, not stolen snake :)
[20:26] <mrqtros> randomcpp strange results for ported app :)
[20:26] <randomcpp> yeah, but I don't know which were the other ported apps participating
[20:27] <mrqtros> randomcpp it's sad that I was not able to participate just for interest, not for prize :)
[20:28] <randomcpp> yad is pretty cool, unfortunately I didn't know Yandex before you started working on yad for ubuntu touch
[20:28] <mrqtros> randomcpp yad is very limited in function by OS sandbox :(
[20:29] <randomcpp> I know, apparmor is limiting sometimes :/
[20:31] <mrqtros> randomcpp I hope this situation will change in future ;) In my discussion people says that ability to create 3rd party file managers will appear in future
[20:31] <mrqtros> randomcpp I need less than file manager :)
[20:32] <mrqtros> randomcpp just system wide file selection "dialog" and folder to download :)
[20:34] <randomcpp> is still there the policy you can only write in your .local/share/<..> directory?
[20:36] <nik90> randomcpp, mrqtros: app confinement is important from the security perspective..at one point the whole app inclusion into the app store will be automatic..this cannot be done without assuring data protection.
[20:37] <randomcpp> oh hi nik90 :D
[20:37] <nik90> randomcpp, mrqtros: The situation has improved quite a bit with extensive documentation on which ipolicy groups to use
[20:37] <nik90> randomcpp: hi :)
[20:38] <mrqtros> nik90 hello! Is there any permission to use "Downloads" folder? :)
[20:38] <nik90> I dont know if you guys took a look at http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/security-policy-for-click-packages/
[20:39] <nik90> mrqtros: I think at the moment you are limited to just your own application folder for write access
[20:39] <nik90> which should be .local/share/app-name
[20:41] <mrqtros> nik90 it's not cool for user to see that directory
[20:48] <nik90> +1
[20:53] <nik90> balloons: hmm..alarm is buggier than I hoped :(
[20:54] <nik90> balloons: sry, the eds fix now exposes issues that I couldn't test for before the fix landed
[20:54] <vthompson> balloons: Do you know if we expect the music app to be able to play mp3s in the build environment with Jenkins?
[20:55] <balloons> nik90, no worries.. I'm trying to work through it
[20:55] <balloons> it's complex but I want to land something
[20:55] <balloons> vthompson, I haven't heard from fginther about that at all actually
[20:56] <randomcpp> good night, good luck for the launching :)
[20:56] <fginther> balloons, what's up?
[20:56] <balloons> fginther, vthompson is wondering about our friendly neighborhood music app and mp3 play :-)
[20:56] <vthompson> fginther: I'm trying to do mp3 playback testing for the music app and it fails when mp3s are played
[20:57] <balloons> in theory we should be able to add the decoder to the system easy enough
[20:57] <vthompson> fginther, do you think it may be a dependency issue?
[20:57] <fginther> balloons, vthompson, I did get jack working for the one MP that I had.
[20:57] <fginther> vthompson, what's the current failure?
[20:57] <fginther> link would be good
[20:58] <balloons> remember our conversation about proprietary codecs?
[20:58] <balloons> I assume that's what vthompson is referring to
[20:58] <vthompson> fginther, in my lp:~vthompson/music-app/add-ap-test-shuffle-and-mp3 branch when it attempts to play back an mp3 it doesn't load the media and isPlaying never turns true
[20:58] <vthompson> fginther, here's a recent failure http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests/1124/?
[20:59] <vthompson> balloons, you are correct
[20:59] <vthompson> fginther, also the branch is currently working because I swapped out the mp3 with a flac file
[21:00] <fginther> vthompson, ok, so it's likely that the mp3 dependencies are not present
[21:00] <vthompson> fginther, is that something the build system will need to be fixed for? Or something in the app?
[21:04] <fginther> vthompson, if mp3 playback is needed by a test, then it should be a dependency for music-app-autopilot
[21:04] <vthompson> fginther, Ok, I'll try to add such a dependency
[21:05] <fginther> vthompson, balloons, any idea what package provides this?
[21:05] <balloons> fginther, yes a moment
[21:06] <balloons> ubuntu-restricted-extras is the metapkg
[21:06] <balloons> fginther, vthompson gstreamer1.0-fluendo-mp3 is what you want
[21:07] <vthompson> balloons, excellent! Thank you!
[21:07] <fginther> balloons, thanks
[21:07] <balloons> it's from here: http://www.fluendo.com/shop/product/fluendo-mp3-decoder/
[22:12] <vthompson> balloons, fginther, I actually had to specify gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly as a dependency to get the mp3 test to pass. I also included gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly because it seems like we have both in the build environment
[22:13] <balloons> ugh, you had to grab the whole thing eh?
[22:13] <vthompson> balloons, maybe I could do gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 if there is such a thing?
[22:13] <balloons> vthompson, yes there is
[22:13] <vthompson> I'll try that
[22:13] <balloons> there is 1.0 and .1
[22:14] <balloons> but it worked n'est pas?
[22:16] <vthompson> We'll see if just  gstreamer1.0-fluendo-mp3 and gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 will make it work
[22:19] <vthompson> balloons, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/add-ap-test-shuffle-and-mp3/+merge/191111 assuming just the fluendo package dependency is what's needed?
[22:20] <vthompson> In particular, I'd like to know your thoughts on my shuffle test
[22:24] <balloons> vthompson, hmm
[22:44] <balloons> nik90, where are you hiding the clock db? it keeps coming back even if I delete it
[22:45] <balloons> I take it it's an eds thing
[23:21] <rotomas> new to qml and the ubuntu sdk. i was sad to see quickly/python fade away, but moving on. is it possible to use a sqlite database with only qml or do i need to learn c++?
[23:23] <WebbyIT> rotomas, you can use storage in qml, see for an example https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calculator-dev/ubuntu-calculator-app/trunk/view/head:/Storage.qml
[23:23] <WebbyIT> hi popey, just read your mail
[23:23] <popey> hey WebbyIT
[23:24] <WebbyIT> popey, Kuanl and mihir  are definitely sleeping, they are both from asia
[23:24] <popey> yeah, they'll wake before me ☻
[23:24] <popey> but Kunal is living in Europe I think
[23:24] <rotomas> thanks WebbyIT, that's perfect for what I need to do!
[23:25] <WebbyIT> do you think that they can fix it tomorrow morning? :)
[23:25] <WebbyIT> rotomas, you're welcome ;)
[23:26] <WebbyIT> popey, so, last night before Ubuntu Touch 1.0 :) They were awesome month!
[23:26] <WebbyIT> I'm going to bed that is late also here in Italy :)
[23:27] <popey> ☻
[23:27] <popey> nn