=== m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === thumper is now known as thumper-afk === thumper-afk is now known as thumper [05:32] Good morning [07:55] Hello, world!\n [07:56] hey mlankhorst! [07:56] how are you? [07:57] Excellent, you? [07:57] I'm fine thanks! [07:59] didrocks: Congrats! [07:59] thanks czajkowski ;) [08:01] hello! [08:07] Laney: ello ello [08:08] hello czajkowski [08:08] where in the world are you today? [08:10] Laney: :) just back in Guildford, no more travel for 10 days then off to Italy, Ireland, NYC, Toronto [08:10] glamorous [08:11] did just get back from Paris and Munich. so need a little downtime :) [08:19] hey Laney! [08:21] ola didrocks! [08:21] ¿cómo estás? [08:21] thanks for the fix! (didn't tested it) [08:21] going well. Seems a busy day ahead, but fine! [08:21] and you? [08:22] got a doctors appointment later, otherwise fine! [08:22] not sure which fix you're referring to, but thanks [08:22] ;-) [08:23] Laney: I guess the language selector seems you/cyphermox landed it :) [08:23] ah well I just approved it [08:23] attente did the work [08:27] yeah, nice to get that fixed! (again not tested, just trusting you ;)) [08:27] attente: thanks! [09:33] wow [09:33] just got scared that we broke it [09:33] turns out that the latest image doesn't have new uss ;-) === alf_ is now known as alf|lunch === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [10:47] Laney: yeah, it was blocked in proposed, no-one hinted it [10:47] (I did it this morning) === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [11:09] ah === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === alf|lunch is now known as alf_ [11:31] $ cat /etc/default/lxc | pastebinit - [11:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6245149/ [11:31] sorry [11:32] -ECHANNEL [11:32] $ status lxc-net [11:32] status: Unknown job: lxc-net === david is now known as Guest82446 === davidcal_ is now known as davidcalle === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|brb [13:46] good morning desktopers === pstolowski|brb is now known as pstolowski [13:50] hey seb128 [13:50] kenvandine, hey, how are you? [13:50] great, and you? [13:51] I'm good thanks [13:51] hacking in the Montréal office with larsu desrt and attente [13:52] we had bagels this morning [13:52] they were extremely delicious [13:52] rub it in... [13:52] desrt: ... [13:54] larsu is a hater [13:54] he doesn't like montreal-style bagels [13:54] crazy, right? [13:56] desrt: stop trolling, it's not Friday! [13:58] Welcome to #ubuntu-bagel-lovers [14:35] didrocks: indeed I had not hinted it because it was not in the landing plan, and I wasn't sure anymore [14:35] cyphermox: ok, no worry ;) [14:35] seb128: what, dude, you in the office too? [14:35] cyphermox: we didn't spin an image anyway [14:35] cyphermox, hey, yes I am! do you plan to come work here one day this week? [14:35] didrocks: ok [14:36] seb128: yeah, tomorrow and friday I can [14:36] great [14:36] * cyphermox should get in the office more [14:36] all the fun in montreal [14:36] so, you guys want to come back for a sprint in January :D [14:36] stgraber should come in too! [14:36] Laney: poke him, he might [14:37] just did [14:37] :P [14:37] I went to lunch with him yesterday [14:37] Laney: are you there too? [14:37] omg. [14:37] nah [14:37] it's like I'm missing a big party :) [14:37] Just living vicariously through the hourly bagel updates [14:37] ah! [14:39] seb128: desrt: larsu: attente: anyone else? [14:39] ah sounds like I'll have to walk a whole 5 minute and get to the office then ;) [14:41] maybe this afternoon, depends on how testing is going as I doubt we've got gigabit access to the ISO images at the office, so probably best to do that here than to annoy everyone there by saturating the link ;) [14:42] cyphermox, not desktopers no, but there is one table of certification people next to us [14:42] ah [14:42] yeah I guess I'm usually at that table [14:43] sil2100: poke, you still around? [14:45] cyphermox: always [14:45] cyphermox: what's up? [14:46] sil2100: curious if you could tell me what's up with mediaplayer-app for landing? [14:48] shrug [14:50] Laney, sorry, I think we did conflicting changes to g-s-d :/ [14:50] where? [14:50] Laney, I just pushed/uploaded a 0ubuntu7, then saw your email about keybindings/screensaver [14:50] ubuntu*7*? [14:50] ups [14:50] 8 [14:51] you'll get a reject then :-) [14:51] Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-settings-daemon/ubuntu [14:51] Laney, well, I've those pushed in the vcs [14:51] I didn't push as it didn't get accepted yet [14:51] Laney, did you forget to commit? [14:51] but it is now [14:51] :-( [14:51] let me merge [14:52] Laney, is your 0ubuntu8 a SRU or for release? [14:52] release [14:52] already in [14:53] ok [14:53] cyphermox: ok, so I was still getting a crash file when testing the bug in mention [14:53] Laney, maybe just push --overwrite your vcs and I can redo my changes [14:53] seb128: It's ok, I'm just merging it [14:53] applies apart from changelog [14:53] Laney, should I reupload as 0ubuntu9 or do you it as well? [14:53] you can do that [14:53] Laney, ok, thanks for fixing the vcs [14:54] sure [14:54] i should have pushed without the tag [14:56] seb128: okay, pushed [14:56] I had to overwrite the tag [14:56] Laney, thanks [14:56] Laney, how do you do that? [14:57] just push --overwrite [14:57] ok [14:57] but after merging trunk normally [15:00] wee [15:00] background writing to AS works [15:00] turned out that reading from it was broken too [15:03] Laney, is that what leads to the preview to always show the fallback image? [15:03] yes [15:03] k [15:03] is there a bug open about it? [15:03] I guess QDbusInterface::property() didn't do what I thought [15:03] didrocks, do you know if there a landing planned for qmenumodel? [15:04] hm, don't know because that UI is hidden [15:04] cyphermox: actually, I'm publishing mediaplayer-app now if you have nothing against it - I received some info from upstream so all is ok [15:04] I'm going to build it for armhf now and see if that weird same/different logic actually works [15:04] seb128: I didn't see one [15:04] Laney, I guess it's part of what I reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1237860 [15:04] Launchpad bug 1237860 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[background] the greeter selector isn't working" [High,In progress] [15:04] didrocks, ok, I'm adding one [15:05] oh yeah I fixed that too [15:05] let me steal the assignment [15:05] lp:~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/as-background-fixes [15:12] didrocks, ok, added to the landing asks list [15:13] l228 [15:13] thanks seb128 [15:13] didrocks, it's a segfault fix (unity8 segfaulting when using indicator) [15:13] seb128: yeah, I'll schedule it then [15:14] didrocks, qmenumodel is not used in the desktop, what do you mean "desktop component migrates to..."? [15:14] didrocks, thanks [15:14] seb128: did I say there here? [15:14] didrocks, f228 [15:14] didrocks, well you added that blob on text in the comment column [15:14] not me writing this [15:15] ok, the line has your color around it [15:15] or it's a wrong past [15:15] so I though it was you [15:15] sil2100: great, thanks [15:15] * didrocks had bug with pasting previously [15:16] didrocks, google doc history says it's you [15:16] didrocks, ok, all good, I put the bug link back instead [15:18] seb128: oh, I clicked on the link [15:18] seb128: there is a bug [15:18] when makes when you click on the link, it's copying from your paste [15:18] already had this this morning [15:18] do you middle click? [15:19] yeah [15:19] to open in a new tab [15:19] (which works) [15:19] didrocks, left click open in a new tab by default in gdocs [15:20] ok, I should try to map my mind with that [15:25] Listening to Sam's Song, one is to notice calm and elegance, the sound takes the ear to higher peaks and gradually diminishes the rhythm to close the quiet-yet-vivid pattern, setting a natural gap of silence contrasting with its bold start. [15:26] * Laney wonders how ogra_ feels about that :P [15:27] Laney, you need to stop grouping unrelated changes! [15:27] what did I do? [15:27] * seb128 looks at https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi-scrolling/+merge/191223 doing code cleanups in background [15:27] Laney, ^ :p [15:27] what [15:27] Laney, ChangeImage got dropped in that merge [15:27] it wasn't meant to [15:27] I bet I did that on the wrong branch [15:27] k [15:27] kenvandine, ^ no cookie for not spotting that [15:28] ah whoops sorry [15:28] no worry ;-) [15:28] I probably forgot to close the project in qt creator [15:28] some wrapping in the middle as well :p [15:29] wait... wasn't meant to? [15:29] the commit said removing dead code... and i tested the package [15:29] so i didn't complain :) [15:29] it wasn't part of the same change [15:30] Laney, yeah... but i wasn't going to nitpick about that ;) [15:30] :P [15:30] like seb128 does :-D [15:30] * kenvandine ducks [15:30] kenvandine, well, as a rule it's good to do separate commits for separate logicial changesets [15:30] roooh [15:30] seb128, agreed... but not a good time to do a few round trips [15:30] kenvandine, wait for next time you need a review, I'm going to show you what nitpicking means :p [15:30] :-D [15:31] make him fix things that he didn't even do [15:31] and it was a separate commit, so easy to bisect if we ever needed to [15:31] kenvandine, the commit msg/description are "[wifi] Properly set the list of networks up for scrolling" [15:31] kenvandine, nothing there about cleaning or removing code ;_) [15:31] seb128, grr... well the commit message for the merge [15:31] but there are more levels :) [15:31] kenvandine, nah, no excuse there :p [15:31] I was going to put it in the as-background MP [15:32] * kenvandine passes seb128 another bagel [15:32] where it would have been unrelated but a bit less so ... [15:32] at least in the same plugin [15:32] yum ;-) [15:32] Laney, kenvandine: well anyway, no real issue [15:32] i knew the bagel would make seb128 happy :) [15:33] ;-) [15:41] cyphermox or stgraber - on Monday seb128 referred me to you about a problem I have on my PC. Short version: I got my system in a state where I had to switch IP6 to "Local" to get dhcp working. Can you help? [15:41] alan_g: I'm slightly busy with releasing Ubuntu 13.10, not sure about cyphermox [15:43] stgraber: I can relate to that. (I may well bug you next week though.) [15:47] didrocks, do you plan to do a indicator-datetime landing soon? can you get r274 with it? [15:49] seb128: it's building now [15:54] didrocks, including r274? [15:54] pitti, any ideas why choosing [S]end report in apport-cli on the phone doesn't do anything/ [15:54] ? [15:54] * seb128 really wants that fix in [15:55] mhr3_: it does, it marks the .crash for whoopsie upload (that happens in the background) [15:55] mhr3_: we disabled upload to Launchpad for the final release [15:55] pitti, oh, so there is no way to get to the report? [15:56] mhr3_: it should end up on errors.ubuntu.com [15:56] pitti, i haven't seen anything armhf-y there :/ [15:57] mhr3_: if you want a LP report, you can manually comment out the 'problem_types': ['Bug', 'Package'] line in /etc/apport/crashdb.conf [15:58] pitti, will try that, thx [15:58] seb128: yes (or I would have say so :)) [16:00] didrocks, great, thanks (getting apport to trigger everytime I use the unity-greeter here due to this buggy g_error) [16:00] ok ;) [16:02] sil2100: joining? [16:02] bregma, do you know if anyone is looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1221673 ? (it's ranked high on e.u.c for saucy) [16:02] Launchpad bug 1221673 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in CompAction::initiate()" [Medium,Triaged] [16:03] * bregma looks [16:04] cyphermox: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/Y2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbV91cTRvNmQyMWJvNmJ0bm1mcW9xZWtsNTdnOEBncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t.cg7k3h1nmqml7psc1nn68223i0 [16:28] didrocks: you know one day we're all just going to join it :) [16:28] czajkowski: that would be fun :) [16:31] Laney, should I play with https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/as-background-fixes or do you still want to do work on it before that? [16:32] you can see if it works [16:32] the basic functionality [16:32] but I'm trying to fix the 'same/different' thing back up [16:33] seems some bugs crept in [16:33] like people calling setUpImages() unnecessarily [16:35] Laney, yeah, I had a look at the code but it's more complex that I though it would be for what it has to do ;-) [16:35] well, part of the complexity is to handle the "keep track of what image changed the most recently" [16:36] yes [16:38] hi [16:40] Laney, so yeah, with your branch the preview displays the right image now ;-) [16:41] alan_g: I tried to answer you before, there has been issues with that previously, but if you could paste the config file for your connection, without the password if there are any [16:41] alan_g: that would be a fine in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections [16:41] seb128: \o/ [16:43] cyphermox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6246521/ [16:43] Laney, setting the image still doesn't work, but I'm testing on the desktop and getting desktop-exec and desktop-single apport prompt, so maybe issues with upstart-app-launch [16:43] blaming tedg for that [16:44] ooer [16:44] I never tried content hub stuff on desktop [16:44] alan_g: ah, that should just work, what happens if you set ipv6 back to auto? [16:44] cyphermox: trying... [16:44] Laney, I get the gallery-app properly spawned but when I click pick I get the bugs [16:44] mmm [16:45] I don't think it's really been worked on there [16:45] * Laney does some small refactoring to make this toggle work [16:45] it aborts on ""Unable to find keyfile for application ''" [16:45] Laney, right [16:49] cyphermox: that breaks it [16:49] cyphermox: that breaks it [16:51] cyphermox: It's a bad time for me now - hitting EOD with family commitments. I'll try again tomorrow. [16:59] okay notifying of the as change is broken [17:00] let me check that, might have to fix it in the morning though [17:04] Laney, no hurry, those controls are currently disabled on the touch image [17:04] yeah [17:04] they work though, would be nice to get it back [17:10] Laney, indeed, I'm not sure what to do about the "reset" button if we re-enable the second control [19:34] just as a warning, if some people have the unity8 saucy package installed, it might make your boot hang after today's update, remove /etc/init/boot-hooks [20:11] oh, a robert_ancell [20:12] well hello seb128 [20:12] hey robert_ancell, how are you? [20:12] seb128, good. I was looking at gnome-control-center bugs yesterday. Man, we need to declare bug bankruptcy there :) [20:12] haha, not only there [20:12] But errors.ubuntu.com is great for finding the bugs that matter! [20:13] yes, I stopped trying to clean bugs lists [20:13] I just glance over titles to spot interesting ones, and use e.u.c [20:14] We need to stop apport dumping bugs in there until they float to the top of e.u.c, it's just making it too hard to follow the list [20:16] robert_ancell, is g-c-c list that spammed? [20:16] robert_ancell, btw you picked a segfault in a panel we don't even use :p [20:16] we still use system-config-printer [20:16] seb128, oh, really? So all those bugs are from the gnome ubuntu people then :) [20:16] robert_ancell, guess so [20:16] It was #44 on e.u.c I think [20:17] one the daily view? [20:17] monthly 13.10 [20:17] k [20:17] I don't like the default daily [20:17] not enough data points there [20:17] That seems the most useful list to look at [20:17] yeah [20:18] I tend to do "time range" and enter 10 days worth of backlog [20:18] because on a month you get just too many "already fixed" [20:19] seb128, aren't the fixed ones hidden from the list? [20:20] robert_ancell, they are supposed to be striked in the list, but that works only when there is a bug report linked which got closed, which is often not the case [20:20] ah [20:20] The month view I had seemed to have all active bugs, but that might have been a coincidence [20:21] Laney, did you see you introduced a crasher in the logind changes in lightdm :P [20:21] robert_ancell, the website is slow, it takes a while before the view refresh and get striked and colored lines [20:21] I thought that was fixed because I didn't see the update. Maybe it's even slower now! [20:22] bah, and urls are buggy in firefox [20:22] e.g https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2013.10&from=2013-10-06&to=2013-10-16 [20:22] seb128, oh, did slangasek let the g-c-c fix through anyway? I was expected it would be SRU'd [20:22] that redirect to the day view [20:22] robert_ancell, they still need to do respins for ubiquity fixes so they get proposed pending updates in [20:23] seb128, also clicking through the options sometimes leaves a filter active in the URL but not in the UI, e.g. &version=1.2.3 [20:23] so it ignores all the packages not version 1.2.3 [20:23] yes, that's buggy [20:23] I think evan would say help welcome :) [20:23] robert_ancell, do you use firefox? [20:23] yes [20:23] robert_ancell, https://bugs.launchpad.net/errors/+bug/1179859 [20:23] just because it's the default [20:23] Launchpad bug 1179859 in Errors "Release combo broken in Firefox" [Undecided,Fix committed] [20:24] awesome [20:25] seb128, I'm struggling to find appropriate bugs to fix in the u-s-s... Not sure if that's a good or bad sign [20:27] robert_ancell, they might be easier to find in a couple days... :) [20:28] assuming we get a spike of people using touch [20:28] kenvandine, i.e. users filing bugs in the bug tracker? [20:29] i wonder how the demographic will change... less people filing bugs... and just rely on crash reports [20:29] seb128, is apport going to be disabled in touch for tomorrow? [20:29] kenvandine, is it enabled [20:29] ? [20:29] yes... [20:30] i see apport hogging cpu a few times a day.. [20:30] kenvandine, we don't turn off whoopsie in released, and that's not user visible on the phone (should happen in background) [20:30] ah, right [20:31] /etc/default/apport has enabled=1 [20:32] robert_ancell, well, u-s-s are mostly owned/done for v1, but we have quite some panels/UIs hidden than we are going to enable back next cycle [20:33] though a bit part of the missing is blocked on backends and apis missing [20:33] e.g not on us [20:33] seb128, yeah, that's what it looked like to me. Might be best to wait until the sprint to plan that work [20:33] right [20:37] robert_ancell, are you looking for bugs to stuff to work on? or are you happy to just pick from e.u.c? [20:38] seb128, looking for useful work to do, which is mostly cleaning house in lightdm at the moment and browsing e.u.c for opportunities [20:38] Was looking at cleaning bugs but after g-c-c have decided that's not a worthwhile use of time :) [20:38] robert_ancell, ok, I might bounce a few things your way as I cross them [20:38] robert_ancell, no, it's not [20:38] please do [20:39] robert_ancell: hey. welcome back! [20:39] desrt, hey! [20:39] cheers! [20:39] robert_ancell, if you feel like hacking on a "feature", https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1164016 might be worth addressing for the lts [20:39] Launchpad bug 1164016 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "restore type-ahead find" [Medium,Triaged] [20:40] robert_ancell, we might want to think about polish for the lts [20:40] sure, looks fun [20:41] mterry is the phone build 99 supposed to be using Mir? My one still have lightdm configured to use surfaceflinger [20:41] robert_ancell, it should since e.g 96 [20:41] robert_ancell, it's in "surfaceflinger mode" but it's using Mir. It just isn't using u-s-c [20:42] mterry, but surfaceflinger isn't running? [20:42] robert_ancell, ps aux | grep surface [20:42] robert_ancell, right [20:42] robert_ancell, it shouldn't [20:43] ok, cool [21:06] robert_ancell: haha, oh dear [21:06] is it fixed? [21:07] Laney, yeah, seemed really unlikely in practise for some reason, but noticed it looking through the untriaged lightdm bugs - fixed in 1.8.2 [21:07] I probably reviewed the MP, so you can blame me :) [21:07] sorry about that [21:34] Laney, do you plan to SRU the new glib point release? (just asking to not dup work) [21:35] seb128: yeah, at some point this week [21:36] Laney, can you include https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?h=glib-2-38&id=44edc3829d6db3fabe22d837eaaf2638003516c9 (it fixes lp #1217230) [21:36] Launchpad bug 1217230 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "[Regression] Can't copy files from digital camera (Operation not supported by backend)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1217230 [21:36] Laney, I tested the commit today/confirmed it works [21:37] yeah, saw that one go past [21:37] Laney, great, thanks [21:37] for the record I'm looking at SRUing the new GTK [21:37] just dealing with a regression in the gtkicontheme code in that update (should be fix in git soon, I'm going to backport the fix) [21:43] RAOF, is there really no equivalent to bzr init-repo in git? It's really frustrating how git is optimizing me for disk space (which I have loads of) over ease of working on different branches... [21:44] robert_ancell: There really is no equivalent to bzr init-repo. [21:44] :( [21:44] robert_ancell: When I want to do that, I just git clone a bunch of times. [21:44] RAOF, yeah I'm doing that, and it's not optimising for network usage due to the multiple downloads - or should I clone from a "trunk" checkout? [21:45] i.e. mkdir nautilus; cd nautilus; git clone ssh://rancell@git.gnome.org/git/nautilus master; git clone master 3.8 etc [21:45] Right, that'll work. [21:45] time to relayout my git trees [21:46] You just get to manually update your remote clone whenever you want to pull into any of its derived clones. [21:47] Because in that example, ‘git pull’ in the 3.8 branch will pull only from nautilus/master, not from git.gnome.org. [21:57] RAOF, ah, so I have to create the remote branches in master, then clone those instead? [21:58] robert_ancell: “git clone” will clone all the remote branches anyway; you always get all the branch data in a git clone. [21:58] RAOF, right, but I had to go an do a git checkout -t -b ... in master/ so I could see these branches in 3.8/ [21:59] Oh, yeah. [21:59] All the data's there, but master/ would lack the actual branch pointer until you did that. [21:59] I guess from 3.8/'s point of view a remote branch is a local branch in master/ [22:00] Right. [22:00] what an amazing user experience :) [22:01] Git only supports the git way ☺ [22:30] robert_ancell, can you rebase the fix for bug #861171 on trunk and get charles to review it? [22:30] Launchpad bug 861171 in OEM Priority Project precise "Shutdown from greeter does nothing when multiple accounts open" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861171 [22:30] sure [22:31] thanks [22:44] Sweetshark, just assigned you https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1231799 [22:44] Launchpad bug 1231799 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Saucy) "Libreoffice quicklist doesn't work says "label empty"" [High,Triaged] [22:44] would be nice if you could have a look [22:49] seb128, oh, that code has changed quite a bit :) [22:50] robert_ancell, yeah, nautilus got mccanned [22:50] seb128, no, the indicator-session changes [22:50] oh, I though you were speaking about nautilus :-) [22:50] robert_ancell, yes, and we stopped using the indicator dialog in the session (using unity) [22:50] but that's still useful for the greeter [22:51] I'm getting a dialog in the session when trying to shutdown with other users logged in, iirc [22:51]