[05:32] <pitti> Good morning
[07:55] <mlankhorst> Hello, world!\n
[07:56] <didrocks> hey mlankhorst!
[07:56] <didrocks> how are you?
[07:57] <mlankhorst> Excellent, you?
[07:57] <didrocks> I'm fine thanks!
[07:59] <czajkowski> didrocks: Congrats!
[07:59] <didrocks> thanks czajkowski ;)
[08:01] <Laney> hello!
[08:07] <czajkowski> Laney: ello ello
[08:08] <Laney> hello czajkowski
[08:08] <Laney> where in the world are you today?
[08:10] <czajkowski> Laney: :) just back in Guildford, no more travel for 10 days then off to Italy, Ireland, NYC, Toronto
[08:10] <Laney> glamorous
[08:11] <czajkowski> did just get back from Paris and Munich. so need a little downtime :)
[08:19] <didrocks> hey Laney!
[08:21] <Laney> ola didrocks!
[08:21] <Laney> ¿cómo estás?
[08:21] <didrocks> thanks for the fix! (didn't tested it)
[08:21] <didrocks> going well. Seems a busy day ahead, but fine!
[08:21] <didrocks> and you?
[08:22] <Laney> got a doctors appointment later, otherwise fine!
[08:22] <Laney> not sure which fix you're referring to, but thanks
[08:22] <Laney> ;-)
[08:23] <didrocks> Laney: I guess the language selector seems you/cyphermox landed it :)
[08:23] <Laney> ah well I just approved it
[08:23] <Laney> attente did the work
[08:27] <didrocks> yeah, nice to get that fixed! (again not tested, just trusting you ;))
[08:27] <didrocks> attente: thanks!
[09:33] <Laney> wow
[09:33] <Laney> just got scared that we broke it
[09:33] <Laney> turns out that the latest image doesn't have new uss ;-)
[10:47] <didrocks> Laney: yeah, it was blocked in proposed, no-one hinted it
[10:47] <didrocks> (I did it this morning)
[11:09] <Laney> ah
[11:31] <pitti> $ cat /etc/default/lxc | pastebinit  -
[11:31] <pitti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6245149/
[11:31] <pitti> sorry
[11:32] <pitti> -ECHANNEL
[11:32] <pitti> $ status lxc-net
[11:32] <pitti> status: Unknown job: lxc-net
[13:46] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[13:50] <kenvandine> hey seb128
[13:50] <seb128> kenvandine, hey, how are you?
[13:50] <kenvandine> great, and you?
[13:51] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[13:51] <seb128> hacking in the Montréal office with larsu desrt and attente
[13:52] <desrt> we had bagels this morning
[13:52] <desrt> they were extremely delicious
[13:52] <kenvandine> rub it in...
[13:52] <larsu> desrt: ...
[13:54] <desrt> larsu is a hater
[13:54] <desrt> he doesn't like montreal-style bagels
[13:54] <desrt> crazy, right?
[13:56] <larsu> desrt: stop trolling, it's not Friday!
[13:58] <Laney> Welcome to #ubuntu-bagel-lovers
[14:35] <cyphermox> didrocks: indeed I had not hinted it because it was not in the landing plan, and I wasn't sure anymore
[14:35] <didrocks> cyphermox: ok, no worry ;)
[14:35] <cyphermox> seb128: what, dude, you in the office too?
[14:35] <didrocks> cyphermox: we didn't spin an image anyway
[14:35] <seb128> cyphermox, hey, yes I am! do you plan to come work here one day this week?
[14:35] <cyphermox> didrocks: ok
[14:36] <cyphermox> seb128: yeah, tomorrow and friday I can
[14:36] <seb128> great
[14:36]  * cyphermox should get in the office more
[14:36] <Laney> all the fun in montreal
[14:36] <cyphermox> so, you guys want to come back for a sprint in January :D
[14:36] <Laney> stgraber should come in too!
[14:36] <cyphermox> Laney: poke him, he might
[14:37] <Laney> just did
[14:37] <Laney> :P
[14:37] <cyphermox> I went to lunch with him yesterday
[14:37] <cyphermox> Laney: are you there too?
[14:37] <cyphermox> omg.
[14:37] <Laney> nah
[14:37] <cyphermox> it's like I'm missing a big party :)
[14:37] <Laney> Just living vicariously through the hourly bagel updates
[14:37] <cyphermox> ah!
[14:39] <cyphermox> seb128: desrt: larsu: attente: anyone else?
[14:39] <stgraber> ah sounds like I'll have to walk a whole 5 minute and get to the office then ;)
[14:41] <stgraber> maybe this afternoon, depends on how testing is going as I doubt we've got gigabit access to the ISO images at the office, so probably best to do that here than to annoy everyone there by saturating the link ;)
[14:42] <seb128> cyphermox, not desktopers no, but there is one table of certification people next to us
[14:42] <cyphermox> ah
[14:42] <cyphermox> yeah I guess I'm usually at that table
[14:43] <cyphermox> sil2100: poke, you still around?
[14:45] <sil2100> cyphermox: always
[14:45] <sil2100> cyphermox: what's up?
[14:46] <cyphermox> sil2100: curious if you could tell me what's up with mediaplayer-app for landing?
[14:48] <seb128> shrug
[14:50] <seb128> Laney, sorry, I think we did conflicting changes to g-s-d :/
[14:50] <Laney> where?
[14:50] <seb128> Laney, I just pushed/uploaded a 0ubuntu7, then saw your email about keybindings/screensaver
[14:50] <Laney> ubuntu*7*?
[14:50] <seb128> ups
[14:50] <seb128> 8
[14:51] <Laney> you'll get a reject then :-)
[14:51] <seb128> Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-settings-daemon/ubuntu
[14:51] <seb128> Laney, well, I've those pushed in the vcs
[14:51] <Laney> I didn't push as it didn't get accepted yet
[14:51] <seb128> Laney, did you forget to commit?
[14:51] <Laney> but it is now
[14:51] <seb128> :-(
[14:51] <Laney> let me merge
[14:52] <seb128> Laney, is your 0ubuntu8 a SRU or for release?
[14:52] <Laney> release
[14:52] <Laney> already in
[14:53] <seb128> ok
[14:53] <sil2100> cyphermox: ok, so I was still getting a crash file when testing the bug in mention
[14:53] <seb128> Laney, maybe just push --overwrite your vcs and I can redo my changes
[14:53] <Laney> seb128: It's ok, I'm just merging it
[14:53] <Laney> applies apart from changelog
[14:53] <seb128> Laney, should I reupload as 0ubuntu9 or do you it as well?
[14:53] <Laney> you can do that
[14:53] <seb128> Laney, ok, thanks for fixing the vcs
[14:54] <Laney> sure
[14:54] <Laney> i should have pushed without the tag
[14:56] <Laney> seb128: okay, pushed
[14:56] <Laney> I had to overwrite the tag
[14:56] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[14:56] <seb128> Laney, how do you do that?
[14:57] <Laney> just push --overwrite
[14:57] <seb128> ok
[14:57] <Laney> but after merging trunk normally
[15:00] <Laney> wee
[15:00] <Laney> background writing to AS works
[15:00] <Laney> turned out that reading from it was broken too
[15:03] <seb128> Laney, is that what leads to the preview to always show the fallback image?
[15:03] <Laney> yes
[15:03] <seb128> k
[15:03] <seb128> is there a bug open about it?
[15:03] <Laney> I guess QDbusInterface::property() didn't do what I thought
[15:03] <seb128> didrocks, do you know if there a landing planned for qmenumodel?
[15:04] <Laney> hm, don't know because that UI is hidden
[15:04] <sil2100> cyphermox: actually, I'm publishing mediaplayer-app now if you have nothing against it - I received some info from upstream so all is ok
[15:04] <Laney> I'm going to build it for armhf now and see if that weird same/different logic actually works
[15:04] <didrocks> seb128: I didn't see one
[15:04] <seb128> Laney, I guess it's part of what I reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1237860
[15:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1237860 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[background] the greeter selector isn't working" [High,In progress]
[15:04] <seb128> didrocks, ok, I'm adding one
[15:05] <Laney> oh yeah I fixed that too
[15:05] <Laney> let me steal the assignment
[15:05] <Laney> lp:~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/as-background-fixes
[15:12] <seb128> didrocks, ok, added to the landing asks list
[15:13] <seb128> l228
[15:13] <didrocks> thanks seb128
[15:13] <seb128> didrocks, it's a segfault fix (unity8 segfaulting when using indicator)
[15:13] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, I'll schedule it then
[15:14] <seb128> didrocks, qmenumodel is not used in the desktop, what do you mean "desktop component migrates to..."?
[15:14] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[15:14] <didrocks> seb128: did I say there here?
[15:14] <seb128> didrocks, f228
[15:14] <seb128> didrocks, well you added that blob on text in the comment column
[15:14] <didrocks> not me writing this
[15:15] <seb128> ok, the line has your color around it
[15:15] <didrocks> or it's a wrong past
[15:15] <seb128> so I though it was you
[15:15] <cyphermox> sil2100: great, thanks
[15:15]  * didrocks had bug with pasting previously
[15:16] <seb128> didrocks, google doc history says it's you
[15:16] <seb128> didrocks, ok, all good, I put the bug link back instead
[15:18] <didrocks> seb128: oh, I clicked on the link
[15:18] <didrocks> seb128: there is a bug
[15:18] <didrocks> when makes when you click on the link, it's copying from your paste
[15:18] <didrocks> already had this this morning
[15:18] <seb128> do you middle click?
[15:19] <didrocks> yeah
[15:19] <didrocks> to open in a new tab
[15:19] <didrocks> (which works)
[15:19] <seb128> didrocks, left click open in a new tab by default in gdocs
[15:20] <didrocks> ok, I should try to map my mind with that
[15:25] <Laney> Listening to Sam's Song, one is to notice calm and elegance, the sound takes the ear to higher peaks and gradually diminishes the rhythm to close the quiet-yet-vivid pattern, setting a natural gap of silence contrasting with its bold start.
[15:26]  * Laney wonders how ogra_ feels about that :P
[15:27] <seb128> Laney, you need to stop grouping unrelated changes!
[15:27] <Laney> what did I do?
[15:27]  * seb128 looks at https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi-scrolling/+merge/191223 doing code cleanups in background
[15:27] <seb128> Laney, ^ :p
[15:27] <Laney> what
[15:27] <seb128> Laney, ChangeImage got dropped in that merge
[15:27] <Laney> it wasn't meant to
[15:27] <Laney> I bet I did that on the wrong branch
[15:27] <seb128> k
[15:27] <seb128> kenvandine, ^ no cookie for not spotting that
[15:28] <Laney> ah whoops sorry
[15:28] <seb128> no worry ;-)
[15:28] <Laney> I probably forgot to close the project in qt creator
[15:28] <seb128> some wrapping in the middle as well :p
[15:29] <kenvandine> wait... wasn't meant to?
[15:29] <kenvandine> the commit said removing dead code... and i tested the package
[15:29] <kenvandine> so i didn't complain :)
[15:29] <Laney> it wasn't part of the same change
[15:30] <kenvandine> Laney, yeah... but i wasn't going to nitpick about that ;)
[15:30] <Laney> :P
[15:30] <kenvandine> like seb128 does :-D
[15:30]  * kenvandine ducks
[15:30] <seb128> kenvandine, well, as a rule it's good to do separate commits for separate logicial changesets
[15:30] <seb128> roooh
[15:30] <kenvandine> seb128, agreed... but not a good time to do a few round trips
[15:30] <seb128> kenvandine, wait for next time you need a review, I'm going to show you what nitpicking means :p
[15:30] <kenvandine> :-D
[15:31] <Laney> make him fix things that he didn't even do
[15:31] <kenvandine> and it was a separate commit, so easy to bisect if we ever needed to
[15:31] <seb128> kenvandine, the commit msg/description are "[wifi] Properly set the list of networks up for scrolling"
[15:31] <seb128> kenvandine, nothing there about cleaning or removing code ;_)
[15:31] <kenvandine> seb128, grr... well the commit message for the merge
[15:31] <kenvandine> but there are more levels :)
[15:31] <seb128> kenvandine, nah, no excuse there :p
[15:31] <Laney> I was going to put it in the as-background MP
[15:32]  * kenvandine passes seb128 another bagel
[15:32] <Laney> where it would have been unrelated but a bit less so ...
[15:32] <Laney> at least in the same plugin
[15:32] <seb128> yum ;-)
[15:32] <seb128> Laney, kenvandine: well anyway, no real issue
[15:32] <kenvandine> i knew the bagel would make seb128 happy :)
[15:33] <seb128> ;-)
[15:41] <alan_g> cyphermox or stgraber - on Monday seb128 referred me to you about a problem I have on my PC. Short version: I got my system in a state where I had to switch IP6 to "Local" to get dhcp working. Can you help?
[15:41] <stgraber> alan_g: I'm slightly busy with releasing Ubuntu 13.10, not sure about cyphermox
[15:43] <alan_g> stgraber: I can relate to that. (I may well bug you next week though.)
[15:47] <seb128> didrocks, do you plan to do a indicator-datetime landing soon? can you get r274 with it?
[15:49] <didrocks> seb128: it's building now
[15:54] <seb128> didrocks, including r274?
[15:54] <mhr3_> pitti, any ideas why choosing [S]end report in apport-cli on the phone doesn't do anything/
[15:54] <mhr3_> ?
[15:54]  * seb128 really wants that fix in
[15:55] <pitti> mhr3_: it does, it marks the .crash for whoopsie upload (that happens in the background)
[15:55] <pitti> mhr3_: we disabled upload to Launchpad for the final release
[15:55] <mhr3_> pitti, oh, so there is no way to get to the report?
[15:56] <pitti> mhr3_: it should end up on errors.ubuntu.com
[15:56] <mhr3_> pitti, i haven't seen anything armhf-y there :/
[15:57] <pitti> mhr3_: if you want a LP report, you can manually comment out the 'problem_types': ['Bug', 'Package'] line in /etc/apport/crashdb.conf
[15:58] <mhr3_> pitti, will try that, thx
[15:58] <didrocks> seb128: yes (or I would have say so :))
[16:00] <seb128> didrocks, great, thanks (getting apport to trigger everytime I use the unity-greeter here due to this buggy g_error)
[16:00] <didrocks> ok ;)
[16:02] <didrocks> sil2100: joining?
[16:02] <seb128> bregma, do you know if anyone is looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1221673 ? (it's ranked high on e.u.c for saucy)
[16:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1221673 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in CompAction::initiate()" [Medium,Triaged]
[16:03]  * bregma looks
[16:04] <didrocks> cyphermox: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/Y2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbV91cTRvNmQyMWJvNmJ0bm1mcW9xZWtsNTdnOEBncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t.cg7k3h1nmqml7psc1nn68223i0
[16:28] <czajkowski> didrocks: you know one day we're all just going to join it :)
[16:28] <didrocks> czajkowski: that would be fun :)
[16:31] <seb128> Laney, should I play with https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/as-background-fixes or do you still want to do work on it before that?
[16:32] <Laney> you can see if it works
[16:32] <Laney> the basic functionality
[16:32] <Laney> but I'm trying to fix the 'same/different' thing back up
[16:33] <Laney> seems some bugs crept in
[16:33] <Laney> like people calling setUpImages() unnecessarily
[16:35] <seb128> Laney, yeah, I had a look at the code but it's more complex that I though it would be for what it has to do ;-)
[16:35] <seb128> well, part of the complexity is to handle the "keep track of what image changed the most recently"
[16:36] <Laney> yes
[16:38] <syeekick> hi
[16:40] <seb128> Laney, so yeah, with your branch the preview displays the right image now ;-)
[16:41] <cyphermox> alan_g: I tried to answer you before, there has been issues with that previously, but if you could paste the config file for your connection, without the password if there are any
[16:41] <cyphermox> alan_g: that would be a fine in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[16:41] <Laney> seb128: \o/
[16:43] <alan_g> cyphermox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6246521/
[16:43] <seb128> Laney, setting the image still doesn't work, but I'm testing on the desktop and getting desktop-exec and desktop-single apport prompt, so maybe issues with upstart-app-launch
[16:43] <seb128> blaming tedg for that
[16:44] <Laney> ooer
[16:44] <Laney> I never tried content hub stuff on desktop
[16:44] <cyphermox> alan_g: ah, that should just work, what happens if you set ipv6 back to auto?
[16:44] <alan_g> cyphermox: trying...
[16:44] <seb128> Laney, I get the gallery-app properly spawned but when I click pick I get the bugs
[16:44] <Laney> mmm
[16:45] <Laney> I don't think it's really been worked on there
[16:45]  * Laney does some small refactoring to make this toggle work
[16:45] <seb128> it aborts on ""Unable to find keyfile for application ''"
[16:45] <seb128> Laney, right
[16:49] <alan_g> cyphermox: that breaks it
[16:49] <alan_g> cyphermox: that breaks it
[16:51] <alan_g> cyphermox: It's a bad time for me now - hitting EOD with family commitments. I'll try again tomorrow.
[16:59] <Laney> okay notifying of the as change is broken
[17:00] <Laney> let me check that, might have to fix it in the morning though
[17:04] <seb128> Laney, no hurry, those controls are currently disabled on the touch image
[17:04] <Laney> yeah
[17:04] <Laney> they work though, would be nice to get it back
[17:10] <seb128> Laney, indeed, I'm not sure what to do about the "reset" button if we re-enable the second control
[19:34] <seb128> just as a warning, if some people have the unity8 saucy package installed, it might make your boot hang after today's update, remove /etc/init/boot-hooks
[20:11] <seb128> oh, a robert_ancell
[20:12] <robert_ancell> well hello seb128
[20:12] <seb128> hey robert_ancell, how are you?
[20:12] <robert_ancell> seb128, good. I was looking at gnome-control-center bugs yesterday. Man, we need to declare bug bankruptcy there :)
[20:12] <seb128> haha, not only there
[20:12] <robert_ancell> But errors.ubuntu.com is great for finding the bugs that matter!
[20:13] <seb128> yes, I stopped trying to clean bugs lists
[20:13] <seb128> I just glance over titles to spot interesting ones, and use e.u.c
[20:14] <robert_ancell> We need to stop apport dumping bugs in there until they float to the top of e.u.c, it's just making it too hard to follow the list
[20:16] <seb128> robert_ancell, is g-c-c list that spammed?
[20:16] <seb128> robert_ancell, btw you picked a segfault in a panel we don't even use :p
[20:16] <seb128> we still use system-config-printer
[20:16] <robert_ancell> seb128, oh, really? So all those bugs are from the gnome ubuntu people then :)
[20:16] <seb128> robert_ancell, guess so
[20:16] <robert_ancell> It was #44 on e.u.c I think
[20:17] <seb128> one the daily view?
[20:17] <robert_ancell> monthly 13.10
[20:17] <seb128> k
[20:17] <seb128> I don't like the default daily
[20:17] <seb128> not enough data points there
[20:17] <robert_ancell> That seems the most useful list to look at
[20:17] <robert_ancell> yeah
[20:18] <seb128> I tend to do "time range" and enter 10 days worth of backlog
[20:18] <seb128> because on a month you get just too many "already fixed"
[20:19] <robert_ancell> seb128, aren't the fixed ones hidden from the list?
[20:20] <seb128> robert_ancell, they are supposed to be striked in the list, but that works only when there is a bug report linked which got closed, which is often not the case
[20:20] <robert_ancell> ah
[20:20] <robert_ancell> The month view I had seemed to have all active bugs, but that might have been a coincidence
[20:21] <robert_ancell> Laney, did you see you introduced a crasher in the logind changes in lightdm :P
[20:21] <seb128> robert_ancell, the website is slow, it takes a while before the view refresh and get striked and colored lines
[20:21] <robert_ancell> I thought that was fixed because I didn't see the update. Maybe it's even slower now!
[20:22] <seb128> bah, and urls are buggy in firefox
[20:22] <seb128> e.g https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2013.10&from=2013-10-06&to=2013-10-16
[20:22] <robert_ancell> seb128, oh, did slangasek let the g-c-c fix through anyway? I was expected it would be SRU'd
[20:22] <seb128> that redirect to the day view
[20:22] <seb128> robert_ancell, they still need to do respins for ubiquity fixes so they get proposed pending updates in
[20:23] <robert_ancell> seb128, also clicking through the options sometimes leaves a filter active in the URL but not in the UI, e.g. &version=1.2.3
[20:23] <robert_ancell> so it ignores all the packages not version 1.2.3
[20:23] <seb128> yes, that's buggy
[20:23] <robert_ancell> I think evan would say help welcome :)
[20:23] <seb128> robert_ancell, do you use firefox?
[20:23] <robert_ancell> yes
[20:23] <seb128> robert_ancell, https://bugs.launchpad.net/errors/+bug/1179859
[20:23] <robert_ancell> just because it's the default
[20:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1179859 in Errors "Release combo broken in Firefox" [Undecided,Fix committed]
[20:24] <robert_ancell> awesome
[20:25] <robert_ancell> seb128, I'm struggling to find appropriate bugs to fix in the u-s-s... Not sure if that's a good or bad sign
[20:27] <kenvandine> robert_ancell, they might be easier to find in a couple days... :)
[20:28] <kenvandine> assuming we get a spike of people using touch
[20:28] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, i.e. users filing bugs in the bug tracker?
[20:29] <kenvandine> i wonder how the demographic will change... less people filing bugs... and just rely on crash reports
[20:29] <kenvandine> seb128, is apport going to be disabled in touch for tomorrow?
[20:29] <seb128> kenvandine, is it enabled
[20:29] <seb128> ?
[20:29] <kenvandine> yes...
[20:30] <kenvandine> i see apport hogging cpu a few times a day..
[20:30] <seb128> kenvandine, we don't turn off whoopsie in released, and that's not user visible on the phone (should happen in background)
[20:30] <kenvandine> ah, right
[20:31] <kenvandine>  /etc/default/apport has enabled=1
[20:32] <seb128> robert_ancell, well, u-s-s are mostly owned/done for v1, but we have quite some panels/UIs hidden than we are going to enable back next cycle
[20:33] <seb128> though a bit part of the missing is blocked on backends and apis missing
[20:33] <seb128> e.g not on us
[20:33] <robert_ancell> seb128, yeah, that's what it looked like to me. Might be best to wait until the sprint to plan that work
[20:33] <seb128> right
[20:37] <seb128> robert_ancell, are you looking for bugs to stuff to work on? or are you happy to just pick from e.u.c?
[20:38] <robert_ancell> seb128, looking for useful work to do, which is mostly cleaning house in lightdm at the moment and browsing e.u.c for opportunities
[20:38] <robert_ancell> Was looking at cleaning bugs but after g-c-c have decided that's not a worthwhile use of time :)
[20:38] <seb128> robert_ancell, ok, I might bounce a few things your way as I cross them
[20:38] <seb128> robert_ancell, no, it's not
[20:38] <robert_ancell> please do
[20:39] <desrt> robert_ancell: hey.  welcome back!
[20:39] <robert_ancell> desrt, hey!
[20:39] <robert_ancell> cheers!
[20:39] <seb128> robert_ancell, if you feel like hacking on a "feature", https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1164016 might be worth addressing for the lts
[20:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1164016 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "restore type-ahead find" [Medium,Triaged]
[20:40] <seb128> robert_ancell, we might want to think about polish for the lts
[20:40] <robert_ancell> sure, looks fun
[20:41] <robert_ancell> mterry is the phone build 99 supposed to be using Mir? My one still have lightdm configured to use surfaceflinger
[20:41] <seb128> robert_ancell, it should since e.g 96
[20:41] <mterry> robert_ancell, it's in "surfaceflinger mode" but it's using Mir.  It just isn't using u-s-c
[20:42] <robert_ancell> mterry, but surfaceflinger isn't running?
[20:42] <seb128> robert_ancell, ps aux | grep surface
[20:42] <mterry> robert_ancell, right
[20:42] <seb128> robert_ancell, it shouldn't
[20:43] <robert_ancell> ok, cool
[21:06] <Laney> robert_ancell: haha, oh dear
[21:06] <Laney> is it fixed?
[21:07] <robert_ancell> Laney, yeah, seemed really unlikely in practise for some reason, but noticed it looking through the untriaged lightdm bugs - fixed in 1.8.2
[21:07] <robert_ancell> I probably reviewed the MP, so you can blame me :)
[21:07] <Laney> sorry about that
[21:34] <seb128> Laney, do you plan to SRU the new glib point release? (just asking to not dup work)
[21:35] <Laney> seb128: yeah, at some point this week
[21:36] <seb128> Laney, can you include https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?h=glib-2-38&id=44edc3829d6db3fabe22d837eaaf2638003516c9 (it fixes lp #1217230)
[21:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1217230 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "[Regression] Can't copy files from digital camera (Operation not supported by backend)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1217230
[21:36] <seb128> Laney, I tested the commit today/confirmed it works
[21:37] <Laney> yeah, saw that one go past
[21:37] <seb128> Laney, great, thanks
[21:37] <seb128> for the record I'm looking at SRUing the new GTK
[21:37] <seb128> just dealing with a regression in the gtkicontheme code in that update (should be fix in git soon, I'm going to backport the fix)
[21:43] <robert_ancell> RAOF, is there really no equivalent to bzr init-repo in git? It's really frustrating how git is optimizing me for disk space (which I have loads of) over ease of working on different branches...
[21:44] <RAOF> robert_ancell: There really is no equivalent to bzr init-repo.
[21:44] <robert_ancell> :(
[21:44] <RAOF> robert_ancell: When I want to do that, I just git clone a bunch of times.
[21:44] <robert_ancell> RAOF, yeah I'm doing that, and it's not optimising for network usage due to the multiple downloads - or should I clone from a "trunk" checkout?
[21:45] <robert_ancell> i.e. mkdir nautilus; cd nautilus; git clone ssh://rancell@git.gnome.org/git/nautilus master; git clone master 3.8 etc
[21:45] <RAOF> Right, that'll work.
[21:45] <robert_ancell> time to relayout my git trees
[21:46] <RAOF> You just get to manually update your remote clone whenever you want to pull into any of its derived clones.
[21:47] <RAOF> Because in that example, ‘git pull’ in the 3.8 branch will pull only from nautilus/master, not from git.gnome.org.
[21:57] <robert_ancell> RAOF, ah, so I have to create the remote branches in master, then clone those instead?
[21:58] <RAOF> robert_ancell: “git clone” will clone all the remote branches anyway; you always get all the branch data in a git clone.
[21:58] <robert_ancell> RAOF, right, but I had to go an do a git checkout -t -b ... in master/ so I could see these branches in 3.8/
[21:59] <RAOF> Oh, yeah.
[21:59] <RAOF> All the data's there, but master/ would lack the actual branch pointer until you did that.
[21:59] <robert_ancell> I guess from 3.8/'s point of view a remote branch is a local branch in master/
[22:00] <RAOF> Right.
[22:00] <robert_ancell> what an amazing user experience :)
[22:01] <RAOF> Git only supports the git way ☺
[22:30] <seb128> robert_ancell, can you rebase the fix for bug #861171 on trunk and get charles to review it?
[22:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 861171 in OEM Priority Project precise "Shutdown from greeter does nothing when multiple accounts open" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861171
[22:30] <robert_ancell> sure
[22:31] <seb128> thanks
[22:44] <seb128> Sweetshark, just assigned you https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1231799
[22:44] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1231799 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Saucy) "Libreoffice quicklist doesn't work says "label empty"" [High,Triaged]
[22:44] <seb128> would be nice if you could have a look
[22:49] <robert_ancell> seb128, oh, that code has changed quite a bit :)
[22:50] <seb128> robert_ancell, yeah, nautilus got mccanned
[22:50] <robert_ancell> seb128, no, the indicator-session changes
[22:50] <seb128> oh, I though you were speaking about nautilus :-)
[22:50] <seb128> robert_ancell, yes, and we stopped using the indicator dialog in the session (using unity)
[22:50] <seb128> but that's still useful for the greeter
[22:51] <seb128> I'm getting a dialog in the session when trying to shutdown with other users logged in, iirc
[22:51] <robert_ancell> seb128, well, it was using the dialog in indicator-session, but that no longer exists!
[22:51] <seb128> (I think I saw that)
[22:51] <seb128> I wonder if gnome-session got fixed to do that as well
[22:51] <seb128> robert_ancell, hum, are you sure? what is displayed in unity-greeter?
[22:52]  * robert_ancell looks harder
[22:53] <robert_ancell> seb128, hah, it uses Zenity now
[22:54] <robert_ancell> We should just implement the dialogs in u-g-
[22:54] <Sweetshark> seb128: hohum ...
[22:55] <Sweetshark> seb128: I just had a look at the .desktop files -- there seems to be no difference compared to raring ... maybe a regression in dash/unity?
[22:58] <Sweetshark> seb128: yep. the version in raring and saucy are exact the same ...
[23:00] <seb128> bregma, Trevinho, did anything changed on the unity side that would make the libreoffice launcher list being buggy?
[23:01] <seb128> Sweetshark, the .desktop is weird, I think that uses the old syntax
[23:01] <seb128> Sweetshark, they changed for the new fdo action spec some cycles ago iirc (though the old syntax should be support for compat)
[23:02] <Sweetshark> seb128: urgh.
[23:03] <seb128> Sweetshark, the other .desktops use
[23:03] <seb128> [Desktop Action <name>]
[23:03] <seb128> Name=
[23:03] <seb128> Exec=
[23:03] <seb128> seems to be what is used by nautilus, chromium, etc
[23:04] <seb128> with an "Actions=<name>;" as well in the main section
[23:04] <Sweetshark> seb128: yep, found it with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[23:20] <seb128> robert_ancell, I saw "Light Display Manager" in my unity-greeter users' list a bunch of times recently, did you see that?
[23:20] <robert_ancell> seb128, no
[23:21] <robert_ancell> seb128, is accounts service showing it?
[23:21] <seb128> robert_ancell, what info would be useful while in this state?
[23:21] <robert_ancell> seb128, see if accounts service is reporting it - if so, it an a-s problem
[23:21] <seb128> I doubt it is
[23:21] <seb128> let me check
[23:21] <seb128> but it's not happening in my session nor in the greeter 3 minutes ago
[23:22] <robert_ancell> also check what logind is reporting. It might have broken when when switched from CK
[23:23] <seb128> well, what is weird is that it does it 1 on 10 tries
[23:23] <seb128> e.g it's not consistent
[23:23] <seb128> I wonder if it fails to get infos from a-s and fallback to some other method
[23:24] <Trevinho> seb128 Sweetshark: I noticed that in recent releases of LO there's a StartupWMClass flag
[23:24] <Trevinho> that's generally correct for normal files, but with LO it seems to cause troubles
[23:24] <Trevinho> I didn't see this in Saucy, though
[23:24] <Trevinho> Only in precise (submitted a  workaround for it)
[23:24] <seb128> Trevinho, well, in that case the issue is the right-click-list in the launcher
[23:25]  * robert_ancell -> lunch
[23:25] <robert_ancell> seb128, possible, look in the x-0-greeter.log to see if there's anything being reported there
[23:26] <Trevinho> seb128: ah... let me see
[23:26] <Trevinho> seb128: mh, I have an "empty label" menu item on it
[23:26] <Trevinho> seb128: it's not something related to unity though, in case it's libindicator
[23:27] <Sweetshark> seb128: I _really_ shouldnt edit bug at this time of the day (night rather) -- does more damage than it does good.
[23:27] <seb128> robert_ancell, http://ubuntuone.com/3dEWj5J4VboRveJBvL772e
[23:27] <Sweetshark> :/
[23:27]  * Sweetshark goes to bed. night guys ...
[23:27] <seb128> Sweetshark, yeah, time to sleep for you!
[23:27] <seb128> night
[23:27] <seb128> Trevinho, ok, so something for ted I guess
[23:28] <seb128> or charles/larsu
[23:28] <Trevinho> yes... well, I probably could do something as well, but if they do it I'm ok with that :)
[23:29] <seb128> Trevinho, if you want to have a look, please do ;-)
[23:29] <Trevinho> quite busy now... :/ I see if tomorrow i can
[23:29] <Trevinho> or just ping the indicator people
[23:30] <seb128> Trevinho, thanks
[23:32] <Trevinho> seb128: I think we've high prio troubles with indicator-appmenu or other indicators that make often u-p-s to become crazy.. are these issues already addressed by them?
[23:36] <seb128> Trevinho, no, how crazy?
[23:36] <seb128> Trevinho, there is a bug where u-p-s stop getting sync/status updates from indicators which is known
[23:36] <seb128> e.g the sound indicator icon stops changing
[23:36] <Trevinho> seb128: sometimes it gets cpu 100%, and menus takes age to open
[23:36] <seb128> the bus side is fine, seems it's the compiz/ups side which is buggy
[23:37] <seb128> weird
[23:37] <seb128> never saw that one mention (nor ran into it)
[23:37] <Trevinho> seb128: there are some very popoular bugs around, I can grab the numbers
[23:37] <Trevinho> seb128: mh navigating over menus is often impossible... the menu can take seconds while the screen is grabbed
[23:37] <Trevinho> and this leads to unsuable state untill you don't kill u-p-s
[23:38] <Trevinho> seb128: a part that Alt+F or Alt pressure is broken with GTK apps
[23:38] <Trevinho> I don't know if it's due to the fact that I've long uptimes, but after few hours it happens
[23:44] <seb128> Trevinho, well, few hours is not a long uptime
[23:48] <Trevinho> seb128: no, I can't give a number for that... but we've some bugs indeed and imho we should find a fix asap
[23:49] <seb128> Trevinho, right, easier if we can trigger them easily to test/debug
[23:50] <Trevinho> yes, sure... unfortunately things like this are probably races or hard to reproduce