[06:28] <cub> About the testing, it should be released tomorrow but I wonder if there might be another build before that?
[06:29] <cub> Since I noticed that the tests I ran the day before yesterday have disappeared from the test tracker and we're back at zero.
[06:29] <cub> I rather not spend a lot of time testing today if it will be overwritten tonight again ...
[07:09] <astraljava> Not to sound like a nitwit, but that's not really the point of quality assurance. No matter how often the images get respun, each and every one of them ought to be thoroughly tested. We might not always know what gets changed, but something apparently does, otherwise there wouldn't be a need for them. Those changes could introduce breakage, regressions or other some such.
[07:13] <cub> astraljava, I suppose, I just thought it would like the Beta 1 and Beta 2 where we got an image to test and then decide on release. But now there's two new iso's to test every day. It's hard for me to go through all the test cases properly the short time I have in the evenings.
[07:15] <astraljava> cub: Sure, this was not finger-pointing at your general direction. :) Pain of contributing to hobby projects, I know this well enough.
[07:17] <astraljava> For me it's always been like not having equipment when I have time, and vice versa. Being broke means I rely on generosity of friends when it comes to hardware, and now I have this laptop-slash-tablet with only 1GB of RAM. Can't test anything with it.
[07:19] <cub> no I'm just wondering. This is the first release where I'm actually involved in the testing and I don't know how it's usually done
[07:20] <cub> I was frustrated to take time away from my family to test for the whole evening only to have my results deleted in the morning. Felt like ... well not victory, that's for sure. :D
[07:24] <astraljava> Hehe, I get that. Yeah, it
[07:24] <astraljava> sorry, forget where the apostrophe is. It's a little tough this late in the cycle.
[07:25] <astraljava> New images are spun all the time, usually because vanilla has something changed. But nonetheless they might affect our flavor, too, and that should be verified.
[07:26] <astraljava> It's critical now, since it's the release image, earlier in the cycle it's not that bad since you can still rely on the next daily.
[07:30] <knome> following #ubuntu-relase would help knowing what gets change, especially after the final freeze, since everything is gated manually to the release
[07:31] <knome> but i do understand not everybody wants all that noise; i filter some of it out as well
[07:37] <astraljava> Hey knome. That's good advice. Especially for QA personnel, that's the (other) place to be.
[07:38]  * astraljava wonders how Nick is doing with the QA procedures and stuff.
[07:38] <knome> haven't been too much involved with that (or pretty much anything FOSS-related) lately
[07:39] <astraljava> Could say 'me neither', but you should know that. :)
[07:39] <knome> well i've seen you around a lot more than in the months before..
[07:40] <astraljava> Yes, but I haven't been involved. :)
[07:41] <knome> are we nitpicking? :)
[07:41] <knome> giving information counts as being involved
[07:41] <astraljava> When are we not?
[07:41] <astraljava> Oh ok-
[07:42] <astraljava> - == .
[07:42] <knome> that's what i thought, i wondered how did you manage to avoid being witty for so long
[07:43] <knome> so where are you today? kallio or vallila?
[07:50] <astraljava> Kallio. Need to study for the interview tomorrow.
[07:51] <knome> heh.
[07:51] <knome> i need to write an application today.
[07:51] <knome> where are you applying to?
[07:51] <astraljava> This one gaming company, they make iOS and Android games.
[07:51] <knome> aha.
[07:52] <astraljava> Also got another one lined up, but that's 2 weeks ahead. Time to prerare for that later.
[07:53] <knome> yeah
[07:53] <knome> i'd need to get to the interview first :)
[08:03] <astraljava> Sure, but that will happen anytime soon.
[08:07] <knome> depends.
[08:07] <knome> i'm not applying for too many jobs, you know
[08:08] <knome> (just can't pass this one)
[08:23] <astraljava> Yes well, anyway. You've got skills to show.
[08:29] <knome> i know.
[12:13] <smartboyhw> WARNING: Respin in an hour
[14:08] <OvenWerks> I'll see what I can do in about 8hours
[14:08]  * OvenWerks is off to work...
[22:38] <OvenWerks> GAA! someone just respun us.