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balloonsping nik90 it's ready https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-clock-app/alarm-tests/+merge/19148201:41
balloonspopey, ^^01:41
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mihirdpm: good Morning :)06:40
mihirdpm: am i supposed to remove any testcases ?? http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests/1144/testReport/calendar_app.tests.test_calendar/TestMainView/test_new_event_with_mouse_/?06:40
dpmmorning mihir06:44
dpmmihir, I'd suggest getting the branch in shape and then look at any tests that are failing. Rather than removing, tests might need to be adapted06:45
mihirdpm: okay , but I am unable to get the catch06:47
dpmmihir, what do you mean the catch?06:47
mihirdpm: why it is failing i just changed few lines and it shouldn't affect anything06:48
dpmmihir, I'd say just worry about the branch now, and when it's finished we can look at the test06:51
mihirdpm: the branch has been done.06:51
mihirI just pushed all the changes, & it's working on my machine06:51
dpmcool06:56
mihirdpm: resolved :)07:00
popeynik90: did you see balloons patch is ready for review?07:24
danielbeckhello. I got the feedback from the ubuntu app showdown. Thanks. The feedback however said that my application (ramsamsam reader) could not be started on the handheld.08:04
danielbeckI'm not sure which version of ramsamsam reader was tested. Because I have no ubuntu touch handheld, I wanted to ask, if someone could test it on its smartphone. That would be really helpful.08:06
danielbecks/its smartphone/his smartphone08:12
mihirdpm: can you approve my MR , once you get time ? https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calendar-app/editEvent/+merge/19010608:13
dpmmihir, sure, I've already had a look but I need to test it. I need to prepare a couple of other things for the release, but I'll get to it this afternoon08:14
mihirdpm: No issues :) thank you08:14
nik90popey: yes I saw. I was investigating where the clock db is stored08:31
nik90balloons: the clock db is in .local/share/com.ubuntu.clock08:31
nik90balloons: however I am not sure where the alarm eds database is..shouldn't it be in the same location as the calendar?08:32
dpmhi danielbeck, that was at the time ramsamsam had not yet been uploaded to the store, so we asked judges to test it on the desktop so that it could qualify for the contest08:32
danielbeckdpm: ah, ok. So the application in the click-store works.Thanks.08:35
dpmdanielbeck, yeah, I'm testing it now to double-check. It seems I've got an issue loading apps in the last phone image, but at least the app was installed from the stor08:36
dpme08:36
danielbeckdpm: could you try out the synchronization to theOldReader, too? It should work too.08:37
popeydanielbeck: it fails to start on device here08:38
danielbeckdpm: The synchronization does not work in the webbrowser because of security constrains imposed from the webbrowser.08:38
danielbeckpopey: ah. ok.08:38
dpmpopey, danielbeck, same here, it shows a blank screen when starting08:38
popeyfile:///usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/imports/Unity-Mir/Unity/Application/ApplicationImage.qml:37:5: QML QQuickImage: Failed to get image from provider: image://screenshot/com.ubuntu.developer.danielbeck.ramsamsamreader_ramsamsamreader_0.2.308:39
dpmI'Ve seen this happening quite a lot for some reason. This morning the clock app just wouldn't start (showed the blank screen all the time), and now it does start, though08:39
danielbeckis that a problem with my application, or an ubuntu touch problem?08:40
danielbeckIs an emulator available to test apps, or does Ubuntu provide a "Remote Labs" like "Samsung Lab.Dev" for testing purposes?08:43
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy World Poverty Day and, of course, happy Ubuntu 13.10 Release Day! :-D08:56
nik90renato: for AP tests, do you know where the EDS database is stored to perform a clean slate after an AP test?09:13
dpmnik90, while renato is not yet online, perhaps someone on #ubuntu-desktop might know more about EDS09:16
smartboyhwdpm, so, what's the conclusion of the meeting yesterday?09:20
dpmsmartboyhw, we updated the blueprint with the status (I'd recommend to subscribe): https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/reminders-app-development09:23
smartboyhwdpm, I did subscribe09:23
dpmcool, it doesn't seem you're listed though09:23
dpmessentially, we shared the work the design team has been doing:09:24
dpm- the design brief document, which lists the functional requirements09:24
dpm- the user stories, which go into more detail on the requirements09:24
dpmwe also set the meeting to be weekly at that time09:25
dpmand recommended to use the mailing list for communication more09:25
jaropehi gents could someone please let me know the current PPA for the sdk with Qt5.1.1 support09:29
danielbeckdpm: I won't be able to attend the "evernote" meetings - I'm at work at that time.09:31
dpmjarope, I'm not sure if we've got any. It seems we don't have any SDK folks around today09:31
jaropehi dpm yes I just scanned the list and didnt see any names i recognised09:31
jaropeI had it before but had to reinstall to sort a problem with nvidia09:32
dpmdanielbeck, no worries, we'll try to set up either another time or another format (perhaps IRC) for those who can't attend09:32
jaropethere is a beta ppa but as I understand the name keeps changing09:32
smartboyhwdpm, OK09:35
danielbeckdpm: nice. Thanks.09:36
jaropedpm: found it - https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-beta-proper/09:42
dpmok, cool09:43
dholbachJamesTait, how are things looking with 1239662?10:31
JamesTaitdholbach, I've got a fix about 80% done on my dev environment.  Planned to have it out last night, but suffered a cascade of hardware and software failures that I'm recovering from this morning.10:33
dholbachawesome!10:33
dholbachthanks a bunch10:33
JamesTaitMore awesome would have been having it already in production. :-/10:33
om26ergusch, ping10:39
guschom26er: hi10:39
om26ergusch, the camera stops working if we switch to other apps and come back. You worked on the backend side of it so perhaps you know what's causing that10:39
om26erbug 123868710:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 1238687 in camera-app (Ubuntu Saucy) "Camera app stops responding when swiping through open apps" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123868710:39
om26erit just shows blank10:39
om26erwe quit it and start it again and camera works10:39
guschom26er: that's a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu-camera/+bug/122062610:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 1220626 in qtubuntu-camera (Ubuntu) "camera stops working after camera.start();camera.stop();camera.start()" [High,New]10:41
om26ergusch, ah, thanks :)10:43
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dpmkalikiana, if I want to use an icon from the mobile theme in my app (e.g. /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mobile/actions/scalable/delete.svg) Is there a way that I can show that icon in a toolbar button by accessing the icon installed in the system location, or do I have to copy the icon to my source tree and load it from there?12:16
dpmI tried it a while ago and I remember I had some issues, but they might have been resolved by now12:17
dpmI'm just curious to know what the proper way is to use system icons12:17
dpmrenato, does qtorganizer5-eds implement deleting events?12:18
pkunal-parmarI asked him, he must be checking it12:20
renatodpm, yes I am discussing with pkunal-parmar about that12:20
dpmrenato, ok, cool, thanks. Also, would you mind opening https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtorganizer5-eds to track bugs for the eds backend?12:21
pkunal-parmardpm, did we get any feedback about proper usage of system icons ?12:21
dpmpkunal-parmar, I just asked kalikiana before you joined the channel, let's wait for him to reply when he's got some time12:22
renatodpm, try this one: Q_INVOKABLE void removeItem(QDeclarativeOrganizerItem *item);12:22
renatothis should works12:22
pkunal-parmarok12:22
renatopkunal-parmar, ^^12:22
pkunal-parmarok :)12:22
pkunal-parmari thought there is no such API :)12:22
renatoyeah the documentation is too old12:22
pkunal-parmar:), seems to work12:23
pkunal-parmarthanks12:23
renatopkunal-parmar, great12:23
dpmpkunal-parmar, renato, I struggled to find any API documentation on the EDS backend or Qt Organizer. Where should I look for the documentation?12:23
renatodpm, pkunal-parmar, try use this one: http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/qt-mobility/index.html12:25
pkunal-parmarranato, event is getting deleted12:26
pkunal-parmarbut there is one issue12:26
pkunal-parmarvirtual bool QOrganizerEDSEngine::startRequest(QtOrganizer::QOrganizerAbstractRequest*)12:26
pkunal-parmarvoid QOrganizerEDSEngine::removeItemsAsync(QtOrganizer::QOrganizerItemRemoveRequest*)12:26
pkunal-parmarstatic void QOrganizerEDSEngine::removeItemsAsyncStart(RemoveRequestData*)12:26
pkunal-parmarRemove item size:  112:26
pkunal-parmarFail to remove Items Cannot remove calendar object: Object not found12:26
pkunal-parmarThere is error at end12:26
pkunal-parmarand I am not getting model updated signal12:27
renatopkunal-parmar, ok I need to take a look on that12:29
pkunal-parmarok, I tried once more and got this12:29
pkunal-parmarvirtual bool QOrganizerEDSEngine::startRequest(QtOrganizer::QOrganizerAbstractRequest*)12:29
pkunal-parmarvoid QOrganizerEDSEngine::removeItemsAsync(QtOrganizer::QOrganizerItemRemoveRequest*)12:29
pkunal-parmarstatic void QOrganizerEDSEngine::removeItemsAsyncStart(RemoveRequestData*)12:29
pkunal-parmarRemove item size:  112:29
pkunal-parmarstatic void QOrganizerEDSEngine::removeItemsAsyncStart(RemoveRequestData*)12:29
pkunal-parmarItem source is null12:29
pkunal-parmarbut still no model changed signal12:29
pkunal-parmarand no itemCount changed signal12:29
renatoyes this should be a bug, I need to test it12:30
pkunal-parmarok12:31
renatoI will ask bfiller_afk to open the projects for bug report, meanwhile you can use here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtorganizer5-eds12:32
renatodpm, pkunal-parmar ^^^12:33
dpmthanks renato12:34
dpmpkunal-parmar, would you mind commenting on your findings for event deletion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1240505 ?12:34
ubot2Launchpad bug 1240505 in Ubuntu Calendar App "There is no way to delete an event" [Critical,Triaged]12:34
pkunal-parmarsure, will do it12:34
kalikianadpm: pkunal-parmar yes, use iconSource: "image://theme/search"12:35
kalikianathe part after the last slash is the name of the icon12:35
pkunal-parmarlet me try12:35
dpmkalikiana, thanks. Does this pick the scalable icons or the PNG ones?12:36
kalikianabut be warned, whoever compiles the mobile theme didn't care to make it work on the desktop ;-) the same icons will not work on the desktop and the mobile always12:36
kalikianadpm: either one12:36
kalikianawhatever fits the size12:36
pkunal-parmariconSource: "image://theme/delete"12:37
pkunal-parmarthis does not work on desktop12:37
pkunal-parmarfile:///usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Themes/Ambiance/ToolbarButtonStyle.qml:33:9: QML QQuickImage: Failed to get image from provider: image://theme/delete.svg12:37
dpmThis should be loading /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mobile/actions/scalable/delete.svg12:37
kalikianaalas that's not being used by the desktop theems12:38
kalikianaunless you force unity to use it and break a few things12:38
kalikianabut: you can use multiple icons12:38
kalikianafor example image://theme/search,edit-search12:39
pkunal-parmarok12:39
kalikianajust made that one up, but say if there's a desktop-usable delete icon you can use that and the mobileone12:39
pkunal-parmarso it choose whatever is available ?12:39
kalikianafrom left to right12:39
nik90pkunal-parmar, renato: I have the same delete issue that you discussed above12:39
nik90pkunal-parmar, renato: Only for the last remaining item, I do not get the itemcount changed signal12:40
pkunal-parmarnik90, it may be better to use modelChanged signal12:40
pkunal-parmarbut currently after delete that is not working  as well12:41
nik90pkunal-parmar: for the alarms I am using onModelReset signal12:41
pkunal-parmarok12:41
mihirpkunal-parmar: still we haven't implemented recuurenrce right ?12:41
kalikianapkunal-parmar: try image://theme/delete,edit-delete-symbolic12:41
kalikianathat works for me on the desktop12:42
dpmoh, that's a nice tip12:42
pkunal-parmarkalikiana, for me also it works12:43
pkunal-parmarthough icon is different12:43
pkunal-parmarmihir, no, not yet12:43
mihirpkunal-parmar:  okay :)12:43
mihirpkunal-parmar: our meeting has been cancelled ?? I can't see in my calendar , only deisng meeting is there12:46
pkunal-parmarnot sure, I can not see either12:48
pkunal-parmardpm, should know12:48
JamesTaitdholbach, fix for lp:1239662 is in review.12:48
dpmpkunal-parmar, mihir, either I or popey must have cancelled, probably because it's release day, but we can still have a chat on IRC if you guys want12:49
mihirdpm: it has been cancelled the entier reccurence12:49
mihirdpm: that's fine :) we can resume after our release i guess12:49
dpmWe've done all that we could for the release, and you guys have done really awesome work. Now it's time to relax, have a well-deserved break and enjoy the result of your work :)12:50
dpmPost-release, one of the first priorities will be to get the events fully working, i.e. with edit and delete functionality12:50
pkunal-parmarso release is finalized ?12:52
dpmyeah, today is release day, the final image is to be published in the next few hours12:53
pkunal-parmarok, BTW I noticed design hangout was moved one hour later, that is 12.30 here12:53
pkunal-parmarI would perfer older time 11.3012:54
dpmoh, weird, I don't remember moving it, let me have a look12:54
pkunal-parmarok12:54
mihirdpm: thanks a lot for your support :)12:55
pkunal-parmarits move from November12:55
mihirpkunal-parmar:  thank you for your guidance :)12:55
pkunal-parmarwelcome12:55
dpmpkunal-parmar, I don't see it changed. What date do you see it changed the time?12:56
pkunal-parmarfor me its 1Nov12:56
pkunal-parmar12.30 am12:56
dpmpkunal-parmar, are you sure it's not a daylight time savings issue?12:58
pkunal-parmarwe dont have daylight saving12:58
pkunal-parmardo you have ?12:59
pkunal-parmarso what will be UTS time?12:59
dpmpkunal-parmar, it'd be 14:30 UTC13:00
dholbachJamesTait, yeehaw13:00
pkunal-parmarok13:00
pkunal-parmarwhich is same as before ?13:01
dpmyeah13:01
popeyYes, I cancelled all the meetings as we hit release13:02
mihir__popey:  okay13:17
oSoMoNdpm: is there a calendar app design hangout today?14:21
dpmoSoMoN, I thought we skip it, but happy to join if you guys want to hang out. popey, what do you think?14:21
popeyI'm easy, your call14:22
oSoMoNdpm: I’m fine with skipping, nothing to ask/report anyway14:24
dpmpkunal-parmar, mihir__, are you happy to skip the design hangout today, or do you guys want to have it?14:24
mihir__dpm: we can skip for this week, as we have release :)  we can reseme from next week or so14:25
pkunal-parmarwe can skip14:27
balloonsnik90, ping15:13
nik90balloons: pong15:18
balloonsnik90, hey, thanks for reviewing things :-) I'm curious to look back through the code myself. I was exhausted by the time I finished it, I'm sure it gets lovely in some places15:19
nik90balloons: hehe15:19
nik90balloons: we are not in a hurry anymore .. the public release of 1.0 has been done and alarms does not work on it since renato's patch for EDS did not make it into the phone image15:20
balloonsyou picked up on some of the funny bits in your review -- things that should work but didn't15:20
balloonsand yes, so we can really tweak this to fix everything15:20
nik90balloons: exactly15:20
balloonsI hate the get_first nonsense in there15:20
nik90balloons: also regarding the ordering of the alarms15:21
balloonsfor instance :) It's in timer too.. horrible. I should be able to grab any one I wish15:21
nik90balloons: the alarms API reorders the list based on the alarm closest to the current time15:21
nik90balloons: hence the list is dynamic15:21
nik90balloons: I can check with zsombi to see if that can be disabled to help with the AP15:21
balloonsnik90, that's fine. the ordering issue is how the sdk populates the list internally15:21
balloonsnot alarms, but the dates15:22
balloonsit goes something like sunday weds, etc, etc random, ending on sat15:22
nik90balloons: ah that15:22
nik90balloons: I think I can fix that15:22
balloonsbasically I spent time adding extra asserts as I could throughout the code, and often they failed15:22
balloonsthat was one example of failure15:23
nik90balloons: am not really happy at the way clock is at the moment..alarms broken ..consistent bugs with world clock ..hopefulyl next cycle is better of.15:23
balloonsalso QQuickListView.count as you mentioned. No it wasn't robust :-( I don't remember why, but I had several iterations getting an alarm count15:23
popeynik90: we can certainly fix things15:24
balloonsin the end counting labels worked better than anything else15:24
popeynik90: there is discussion about putting SRU fixes in for platform bits, and we can update the clock itself via the store15:24
nik90balloons: I heard pkunal parmar also had issues with the count variable concerning EDS..it does not fire the signal correctly leading to faulty alarm count15:24
nik90popey: okay15:24
balloonsnik90, if it helps there's a secret about releasing. The best image is usually the one made a few days after the release image :-) So next week's iso will be better than the release as it has more fixes, etc :-)15:25
balloonsnik90, yes exactly.. it didn't update15:25
balloonsin general eds needs a bit more love15:25
nik90balloons: hehe15:25
balloonsso releasing is a big deal.. and so is fixing all the release bugs ;-)15:25
balloonsit's easier now that it's released15:26
popeynik90: really sorry we didn't manage to get the bits in the final image. I know that was important to you.15:35
nik90popey: no worries, it doesn't matter since the indicator date-time patch wasnt in the image either..so getting renato's patch alone wouldnt have helped anyway. Its okay...not your fault15:36
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popeybeuno: seems that package name / application name / namespace is not clear on the first form as it doesn't match the names of the fields on the technical details page later.16:58
popeybeuno: also, I am not getting any emails16:59
beunopopey, hmmmm, emails. Are you 100% sure?17:02
popeyi searched my email for the name of the app17:02
popeynothing17:03
beunopopey, it'll soon be a non-issue as we'll scan it out of the package17:03
* popey checks spam17:03
popeyyup, no email17:03
beunopopey, I'll look into emails17:04
popeyta17:06
SimonKcan anyone tell me how to use the property "highlightWhenPressed" from "ListItem.Empty" in ListItem.Standard? (I want a list where I can press a entry so that this entry gets highlighted)17:07
JamesTaitdholbach, architecture:all is on Staging, looking good, but held up by a separate problem with another fix deployed at the same time.17:08
dholbachJamesTait, gotcha17:08
dholbachthanks a bunch for your hard work17:08
dholbachfor the live demo we worked around this by pushing a "fake" armhf click :)17:09
dholbachbut I'll upload an update once the fix is there :)17:09
dholbachall rightie17:10
dholbachtime to call it a day for me!17:10
JamesTaitdholbach, yeah, apologies for the delay, would have preferred not to have required the workaround.17:10
dholbachsee you tomorrow!17:10
* dholbach hugs JamesTait17:10
dholbachdon't worry17:10
dholbachyou've all done a fantastic job17:10
JamesTaitdholbach, have a great evening. :)17:10
dholbachand as I said in the hangout earlier: I'm super happy with where we are right now17:10
dholbachgetting apps in was never as fun as it is right now17:10
dholbachall right - see you! :)17:11
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mzanettipopey: hey, I'm afraid it's still the same thing. We use the applicationName in a different way than Qt does18:50
mzanettipopey: if I set it in the qml file it breaks QSettings18:50
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aquariusmhall119 or popey, has anyone done a post or something somewhere with screenshots of a bunch of the best-looking Ubuntu phone apps? I wanted to show something to a mate of mine to say "this is what they've made; doesn't it look cool?" and couldn't find much -- I can probably assemble something myself by looking around and collecting things, but if someone had a post somewhere with lots of screenshots of apps20:31
aquariusthat'd be handy :)20:31
popeyaquarius: http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/20:34
popeyaquarius: I take requests ☻20:34
mhall119popey: you mean you don't have them all on your phone?20:35
popeyi have every app installed, yes20:35
popeybut dont have screenshots of everything20:35
aquariusmhall119, I do not, yet, have a phone :)20:37
popeyaquarius: your friends app, beru is broken on device ☹20:37
aquariusblimey, popey, nuff screenshots ;)20:37
popey20:37
aquariuspopey, yeah, when I get an Ubuntu phone that'll be top thing on my list to fix; I use the book reader more than almost anything else :)20:38
aquariuswhat are your opinions on the best looking apps?20:38
mhall119aquarius: pdf support in beru would be lovely too20:38
aquariusI may do a blog post, just so I can direct my mate to it20:38
mhall119aquarius: music, clock20:38
mhall119calendar, weather, calculator, shorts20:38
aquariusmhall119, I think that's a bad idea. I don't think that beru should be an all-purpose document reader20:38
popeymusic deffo20:39
mhall119aquarius: I agree, but I have a lot of ebooks in pdf20:39
aquariusand reading PDFs is massively, massively different from reading epubs. Totally different rendering engine.20:39
aquariusit'd basically be a PDF reader app and an epub reader app which hapen to share a home screen ;)20:39
mhall119aquarius: but we conveniently, thanks to chocanto, have a PDF rendering component for MQL20:39
mhall119QML20:39
aquariusisn't there a pdf reader as one of the core apps? I thought there was.20:39
aquariusobviously not :)20:40
mhall119aquarius: there is, but it doesn't have the homescreen for selecting books :)20:40
popeyhttp://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-10-17-214010.png is new to me20:40
popeyi am taking screenshots of each app now btw aquarius20:40
popeyso refresh and you'll see some more shortly20:40
aquariusI freely admit that another reason I won't be adding pdf support to beru is that I hate reading PDFs with the heat of a thousand suns :P20:40
aquariuspopey, can that folder process PHP files?20:41
popeynook renders PDFs nicely20:41
popeyoh, as a gallery?20:41
popeysure20:41
popeyI guess ☻20:41
aquariuspopey, if so, a "gallery.php" which shows them all would be way handy20:41
popeysure20:41
popeygimmie20:41
aquariusalbeit that it'd take AGES to load20:41
mhall119or upload them all to U1 and share the album20:41
aquariuspopey, how do you get the screenshots in there? manually copy them in? or is there a script?20:41
popeyscript20:42
mhall119popey has magic20:42
aquariuspopey, is it shareable? poking the script to (a) mak a thumbnail and (b) write a gallery.html would be better than doing it at runtime in php :)20:42
nik90popey: the script magician or the automator (if that is a word)20:42
popeyhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/phablet-flash-wrapper/view/head:/mirfbdump20:42
aquariusnik90, heh: automator is the OS X thing for making scripts :)20:42
mhall119nik90: word enough for me :)20:43
popeyevery time I take a picture it automagically uploads20:43
popeyand prints the url20:43
nik90aquarius, mhall119: then it is settled -> Popey the automator20:43
popeyBy your command.20:44
aquariushm, it scps, so it'd need to ssh over there to get the list of files, which'd be a PITA.20:44
aquariusso maybe just add a thumbnailer line20:45
aquariusconvert $DST -resize 100x200 thumb-$DST; scp thumb-$DST $SVR:$SVRPATH20:45
aquariusand then I'll write a noddy php script to show a gallery :)20:45
aquariusfor extra credit, thumbnail all the existing files :P20:45
aquariusthumbnailing all existing files: for f in *.png; do convert $f -resize 100x200 thumb-$f; done20:48
aquarius(in the folder ont he server, of course :))20:48
popeyok, thumbnails are there now20:50
aquariuspopey, the noddiest of php scripts: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6253234/20:54
aquariuscall it gallery.php and drop it in the folder :)20:54
popeyk20:56
popeyhttp://popey.com/~alan/phablet/gallery.php20:57
popeyboom20:57
popeynice one aquarius20:57
aquariuswoooo gallery.20:57
popeyhaha, my cock soup photo20:57
aquariusthat's cool :)20:57
popeyhttp://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-09-17-123401.png20:58
aquariuspopey, did you add the thumbnailing lines to the script as well, so future stuff gets thumbnailed?20:58
popeyyes20:58
aquariusnice20:58
aquariusalso, good luck playing cookie clicker on a phone. It zooms in and out :)20:58
popey:D20:58
popeyi noticed20:58
* popey tests script20:59
popeyconvert.im6: WriteBlob Failed `thumb-/home/alan/Pictures/device-2013-10-17-215950.png' @ error/png.c/MagickPNGErrorHandler/1728.21:00
popeydoh21:00
* popey fettles21:00
aquariusha!21:00
aquariussorry :)21:00
aquariusyou get to hat up on $(basename $f) now. :)21:01
popeyyeah, already have that in there21:01
popeyneed to juggle things a bit21:01
aquariusok, photo requests: music (looking as pretty and visual as possible), calculator, a nicer shorts shot, weather21:05
popeydone21:05
popeypushed new version which does thumbnails21:05
aquariusmhall119, there is a reasonable argument, I think, that the front screen for books ought to be... a books scope in the Dash21:05
mhall119aquarius: conveniently we used to have a books scope21:06
aquarius*nod*21:06
mhall119beru would still need to be updated to take a book argument21:06
aquariusyou'd have one scope which was Books, and it would aggregate a Beru scope and a PDF-Reader-App scope and the books category from the Amazon scope, etc21:07
mhall119also I think we'd need the content-hub fully implemented21:07
aquariusI am 16% sure that it can take a book argument.21:07
aquariusAgreed on the content hub, I admit. :)21:07
aquariuspopey, sorry, forgot to direct the above list of photo requests at you ;)21:12
popeyaquarius: done some21:12
popeysee if they are there21:12
aquariuspopey, ah, cool! soz21:12
popeyshorts is giving me a black screen21:13
aquariuspopey, also, Dropping Letters, just because if I'm publishing a list of apps that I think look cool I'd like to put in one of the apps that I wrote :P21:13
aquariusdonna summer!21:13
aquariusrawk.21:13
aquariuscouldn't have taken a screenshot with, say, AC/DC :)21:13
aquariusyou do already have a Shorts one, but I think it looks a bit weird, like half the screen is empty. However, I fear that's how Shorts is *meant* to look21:14
popeyadded 2 more21:15
popeyevery time i screenshot dropping letters someone takes the piss out of my crap score21:16
aquariusalso, the calendar screenshot has text appearing outside its month box21:16
aquariuspopey, hack the code to have a massive score. Linux is about choice, after all21:16
aquariushey! http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-10-17-220825.png !21:17
aquariusI am not sure I like the implication there :)21:17
popeyhahaha21:18
popeyyou're generous21:18
popeyis what I read from it21:18
* aquarius winces at AT&T in the shorts screenshot :(21:19
popeydamnit, saucybacon is broken too21:19
popeyaquarius: patches welcome21:22
popeyaquarius: any more you need?21:28
aquariuspopey, that's fantastic, thank you!21:29
aquariushttp://kryogenix.org/days/2013/10/17/ubuntu-phone-apps-images posted21:29
aquariusnow I can point Mike at it :)21:29
aquariuspopey, if you'd rather I didn't link to your gallery, I'll remove the link21:32
popeynah, tis fine21:34
* aquarius hehs at popey's comment. Quite right.21:37
popeyaquarius: hurry up and tweet / G+ it so i can reshare21:37
aquariusoh! you think? I was really only doing it so I had a link to send to Mike.21:37
aquariuswill put it on g+ :)21:37
popeywell duh21:37
aquariusdone21:40
popeynice one21:42
aquariuspopey, is part of the goal for the screenshots thing to chronicle the evolution of the apps over time?21:45
popeykinda21:45
popeymore just an easy way to share individual screenshots21:45
aquarius'cos some people might see the list and think that it's representative of the apps now, is all21:45
popeyas a byproduct there's quite a collection there21:46
popeyi also have an archive of a lot of the images too21:46
popeyhttp://popey.mooo.com/mirror/21:46
aquariusnot that I have a good solution to that, other than "popey does a whole bunch of classification work which will basically persuade him to just not do screenshots" :)21:46
popeygoing back to june21:46
popeyjej21:46
aquariusemail sent to mike, too. Sweet.21:47
aquariusI suppose I ought to get back to work, now :)21:47
aquariuswoah, grooveshark's html version is controllable from the ios7 lock screen. It wasn't from ios6. I'd really like that to work on an Ubuntu phone...22:20
popeyaquarius: thanks ☻  http://popey.com/usage/usage_201310.html22:27
aquariusoops22:28
aquariusI did say I'd remove the link :)22:28
aquariusput an ad on the page ;)22:28
popeynah, it's cool ☻22:28
popeyi have oodles of spare bandwidth on that box22:28
aquariusI shall see what I can do about that ;)22:30
popeyhah22:35
aquariusmhall119, ping about http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/lenses-and-scopes/ - it's the top hit for a search for "ubuntu scope", and I think it's an out-of-date page which ought to be poked into pointing at newer stuff?23:04
* aquarius is configuring scopes on and off to convince the dash that I like recipes more than music :)23:04
mhall119aquarius: agreed, I'll file an RT to add a redirect23:04
cm-tHi, I am trying to open gnome-control-center on the activity-log-manager subpanel, it is working. Is it possible to  select the tab to focus? like search tab23:04
cm-thttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6253793/23:05
cm-t(python)23:05
cm-tin this code I added "search" to mean what i want, but might be not the good way/id23:06
aquariuscm-t, what's the activity-log-manager subpanel?23:06
aquarius(that is: what's it called in the GUI?)23:06
aquariusI don't seem to have anything called hat :)23:06
cm-twhen you go in ubuntu settings, you have privacy panel23:06
cm-taquarius:23:06
cm-t23:06
cm-tthis code works without "search"23:07
aquariuscm-t, ah, you want to open the "Security & Privacy" panel, and then show the Search tab inside it, all in one command.23:07
cm-tall in one command or not, i wish i could make it focus to the search tabs, yes23:07
aquariusI don't think it's possible to make any System Settings app start up showing a tab other than the default, from a command.23:08
cm-tthe code in the paste open well the privacy panel23:08
aquariusIt might be possible with a D-Bus call, though.23:08
aquariusthe man page names some of the panels (which you are using correctly) and does say "Individual panels may accept further arguments to specify which tab to open (for multi-tabbed panels)" but doesn't say whether that paicular panel actually *does* so accept.23:09
aquariuscm-t, a good person to ask might be Robert Ancell23:12
aquariusmhall119, I already mentioned about the Unicode stuff being broken on some developer.u.c pages, didn't I?23:14
cm-tthanxs aquarius23:14
mhall119aquarius: yes, I fixed what I found though, if there's more please file a bug23:37
aquariusmhall119, file it against which project?23:37

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