[01:41] <balloons> ping nik90 it's ready https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-clock-app/alarm-tests/+merge/191482
[01:41] <balloons> popey, ^^
[06:40] <mihir> dpm: good Morning :)
[06:40] <mihir> dpm: am i supposed to remove any testcases ?? http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests/1144/testReport/calendar_app.tests.test_calendar/TestMainView/test_new_event_with_mouse_/?
[06:44] <dpm> morning mihir
[06:45] <dpm> mihir, I'd suggest getting the branch in shape and then look at any tests that are failing. Rather than removing, tests might need to be adapted
[06:47] <mihir> dpm: okay , but I am unable to get the catch
[06:47] <dpm> mihir, what do you mean the catch?
[06:48] <mihir> dpm: why it is failing i just changed few lines and it shouldn't affect anything
[06:51] <dpm> mihir, I'd say just worry about the branch now, and when it's finished we can look at the test
[06:51] <mihir> dpm: the branch has been done.
[06:51] <mihir> I just pushed all the changes, & it's working on my machine
[06:56] <dpm> cool
[07:00] <mihir> dpm: resolved :)
[07:24] <popey> nik90: did you see balloons patch is ready for review?
[08:04] <danielbeck> hello. I got the feedback from the ubuntu app showdown. Thanks. The feedback however said that my application (ramsamsam reader) could not be started on the handheld.
[08:06] <danielbeck> I'm not sure which version of ramsamsam reader was tested. Because I have no ubuntu touch handheld, I wanted to ask, if someone could test it on its smartphone. That would be really helpful.
[08:12] <danielbeck> s/its smartphone/his smartphone
[08:13] <mihir> dpm: can you approve my MR , once you get time ? https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calendar-app/editEvent/+merge/190106
[08:14] <dpm> mihir, sure, I've already had a look but I need to test it. I need to prepare a couple of other things for the release, but I'll get to it this afternoon
[08:14] <mihir> dpm: No issues :) thank you
[08:31] <nik90> popey: yes I saw. I was investigating where the clock db is stored
[08:31] <nik90> balloons: the clock db is in .local/share/com.ubuntu.clock
[08:32] <nik90> balloons: however I am not sure where the alarm eds database is..shouldn't it be in the same location as the calendar?
[08:32] <dpm> hi danielbeck, that was at the time ramsamsam had not yet been uploaded to the store, so we asked judges to test it on the desktop so that it could qualify for the contest
[08:35] <danielbeck> dpm: ah, ok. So the application in the click-store works.Thanks.
[08:36] <dpm> danielbeck, yeah, I'm testing it now to double-check. It seems I've got an issue loading apps in the last phone image, but at least the app was installed from the stor
[08:36] <dpm> e
[08:37] <danielbeck> dpm: could you try out the synchronization to theOldReader, too? It should work too.
[08:38] <popey> danielbeck: it fails to start on device here
[08:38] <danielbeck> dpm: The synchronization does not work in the webbrowser because of security constrains imposed from the webbrowser.
[08:38] <danielbeck> popey: ah. ok.
[08:38] <dpm> popey, danielbeck, same here, it shows a blank screen when starting
[08:39] <popey> file:///usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/imports/Unity-Mir/Unity/Application/ApplicationImage.qml:37:5: QML QQuickImage: Failed to get image from provider: image://screenshot/com.ubuntu.developer.danielbeck.ramsamsamreader_ramsamsamreader_0.2.3
[08:39] <dpm> I'Ve seen this happening quite a lot for some reason. This morning the clock app just wouldn't start (showed the blank screen all the time), and now it does start, though
[08:40] <danielbeck> is that a problem with my application, or an ubuntu touch problem?
[08:43] <danielbeck> Is an emulator available to test apps, or does Ubuntu provide a "Remote Labs" like "Samsung Lab.Dev" for testing purposes?
[08:56] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy World Poverty Day and, of course, happy Ubuntu 13.10 Release Day! :-D
[09:13] <nik90> renato: for AP tests, do you know where the EDS database is stored to perform a clean slate after an AP test?
[09:16] <dpm> nik90, while renato is not yet online, perhaps someone on #ubuntu-desktop might know more about EDS
[09:20] <smartboyhw> dpm, so, what's the conclusion of the meeting yesterday?
[09:23] <dpm> smartboyhw, we updated the blueprint with the status (I'd recommend to subscribe): https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/reminders-app-development
[09:23] <smartboyhw> dpm, I did subscribe
[09:23] <dpm> cool, it doesn't seem you're listed though
[09:24] <dpm> essentially, we shared the work the design team has been doing:
[09:24] <dpm> - the design brief document, which lists the functional requirements
[09:24] <dpm> - the user stories, which go into more detail on the requirements
[09:25] <dpm> we also set the meeting to be weekly at that time
[09:25] <dpm> and recommended to use the mailing list for communication more
[09:29] <jarope> hi gents could someone please let me know the current PPA for the sdk with Qt5.1.1 support
[09:31] <danielbeck> dpm: I won't be able to attend the "evernote" meetings - I'm at work at that time.
[09:31] <dpm> jarope, I'm not sure if we've got any. It seems we don't have any SDK folks around today
[09:31] <jarope> hi dpm yes I just scanned the list and didnt see any names i recognised
[09:32] <jarope> I had it before but had to reinstall to sort a problem with nvidia
[09:32] <dpm> danielbeck, no worries, we'll try to set up either another time or another format (perhaps IRC) for those who can't attend
[09:32] <jarope> there is a beta ppa but as I understand the name keeps changing
[09:35] <smartboyhw> dpm, OK
[09:36] <danielbeck> dpm: nice. Thanks.
[09:42] <jarope> dpm: found it - https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-beta-proper/
[09:43] <dpm> ok, cool
[10:31] <dholbach> JamesTait, how are things looking with 1239662?
[10:33] <JamesTait> dholbach, I've got a fix about 80% done on my dev environment.  Planned to have it out last night, but suffered a cascade of hardware and software failures that I'm recovering from this morning.
[10:33] <dholbach> awesome!
[10:33] <dholbach> thanks a bunch
[10:33] <JamesTait> More awesome would have been having it already in production. :-/
[10:39] <om26er> gusch, ping
[10:39] <gusch> om26er: hi
[10:39] <om26er> gusch, the camera stops working if we switch to other apps and come back. You worked on the backend side of it so perhaps you know what's causing that
[10:39] <om26er> bug 1238687
[10:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1238687 in camera-app (Ubuntu Saucy) "Camera app stops responding when swiping through open apps" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1238687
[10:39] <om26er> it just shows blank
[10:39] <om26er> we quit it and start it again and camera works
[10:41] <gusch> om26er: that's a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu-camera/+bug/1220626
[10:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1220626 in qtubuntu-camera (Ubuntu) "camera stops working after camera.start();camera.stop();camera.start()" [High,New]
[10:43] <om26er> gusch, ah, thanks :)
[12:16] <dpm> kalikiana, if I want to use an icon from the mobile theme in my app (e.g. /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mobile/actions/scalable/delete.svg) Is there a way that I can show that icon in a toolbar button by accessing the icon installed in the system location, or do I have to copy the icon to my source tree and load it from there?
[12:17] <dpm> I tried it a while ago and I remember I had some issues, but they might have been resolved by now
[12:17] <dpm> I'm just curious to know what the proper way is to use system icons
[12:18] <dpm> renato, does qtorganizer5-eds implement deleting events?
[12:20] <pkunal-parmar> I asked him, he must be checking it
[12:20] <renato> dpm, yes I am discussing with pkunal-parmar about that
[12:21] <dpm> renato, ok, cool, thanks. Also, would you mind opening https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtorganizer5-eds to track bugs for the eds backend?
[12:21] <pkunal-parmar> dpm, did we get any feedback about proper usage of system icons ?
[12:22] <dpm> pkunal-parmar, I just asked kalikiana before you joined the channel, let's wait for him to reply when he's got some time
[12:22] <renato> dpm, try this one: Q_INVOKABLE void removeItem(QDeclarativeOrganizerItem *item);
[12:22] <renato> this should works
[12:22] <pkunal-parmar> ok
[12:22] <renato> pkunal-parmar, ^^
[12:22] <pkunal-parmar> ok :)
[12:22] <pkunal-parmar> i thought there is no such API :)
[12:22] <renato> yeah the documentation is too old
[12:23] <pkunal-parmar> :), seems to work
[12:23] <pkunal-parmar> thanks
[12:23] <renato> pkunal-parmar, great
[12:23] <dpm> pkunal-parmar, renato, I struggled to find any API documentation on the EDS backend or Qt Organizer. Where should I look for the documentation?
[12:25] <renato> dpm, pkunal-parmar, try use this one: http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/qt-mobility/index.html
[12:26] <pkunal-parmar> ranato, event is getting deleted
[12:26] <pkunal-parmar> but there is one issue
[12:26] <pkunal-parmar> virtual bool QOrganizerEDSEngine::startRequest(QtOrganizer::QOrganizerAbstractRequest*)
[12:26] <pkunal-parmar> void QOrganizerEDSEngine::removeItemsAsync(QtOrganizer::QOrganizerItemRemoveRequest*)
[12:26] <pkunal-parmar> static void QOrganizerEDSEngine::removeItemsAsyncStart(RemoveRequestData*)
[12:26] <pkunal-parmar> Remove item size:  1
[12:26] <pkunal-parmar> Fail to remove Items Cannot remove calendar object: Object not found
[12:26] <pkunal-parmar> There is error at end
[12:27] <pkunal-parmar> and I am not getting model updated signal
[12:29] <renato> pkunal-parmar, ok I need to take a look on that
[12:29] <pkunal-parmar> ok, I tried once more and got this
[12:29] <pkunal-parmar> virtual bool QOrganizerEDSEngine::startRequest(QtOrganizer::QOrganizerAbstractRequest*)
[12:29] <pkunal-parmar> void QOrganizerEDSEngine::removeItemsAsync(QtOrganizer::QOrganizerItemRemoveRequest*)
[12:29] <pkunal-parmar> static void QOrganizerEDSEngine::removeItemsAsyncStart(RemoveRequestData*)
[12:29] <pkunal-parmar> Remove item size:  1
[12:29] <pkunal-parmar> static void QOrganizerEDSEngine::removeItemsAsyncStart(RemoveRequestData*)
[12:29] <pkunal-parmar> Item source is null
[12:29] <pkunal-parmar> but still no model changed signal
[12:29] <pkunal-parmar> and no itemCount changed signal
[12:30] <renato> yes this should be a bug, I need to test it
[12:31] <pkunal-parmar> ok
[12:32] <renato> I will ask bfiller_afk to open the projects for bug report, meanwhile you can use here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtorganizer5-eds
[12:33] <renato> dpm, pkunal-parmar ^^^
[12:34] <dpm> thanks renato
[12:34] <dpm> pkunal-parmar, would you mind commenting on your findings for event deletion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1240505 ?
[12:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1240505 in Ubuntu Calendar App "There is no way to delete an event" [Critical,Triaged]
[12:34] <pkunal-parmar> sure, will do it
[12:35] <kalikiana> dpm: pkunal-parmar yes, use iconSource: "image://theme/search"
[12:35] <kalikiana> the part after the last slash is the name of the icon
[12:35] <pkunal-parmar> let me try
[12:36] <dpm> kalikiana, thanks. Does this pick the scalable icons or the PNG ones?
[12:36] <kalikiana> but be warned, whoever compiles the mobile theme didn't care to make it work on the desktop ;-) the same icons will not work on the desktop and the mobile always
[12:36] <kalikiana> dpm: either one
[12:36] <kalikiana> whatever fits the size
[12:37] <pkunal-parmar> iconSource: "image://theme/delete"
[12:37] <pkunal-parmar> this does not work on desktop
[12:37] <pkunal-parmar> file:///usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Themes/Ambiance/ToolbarButtonStyle.qml:33:9: QML QQuickImage: Failed to get image from provider: image://theme/delete.svg
[12:37] <dpm> This should be loading /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mobile/actions/scalable/delete.svg
[12:38] <kalikiana> alas that's not being used by the desktop theems
[12:38] <kalikiana> unless you force unity to use it and break a few things
[12:38] <kalikiana> but: you can use multiple icons
[12:39] <kalikiana> for example image://theme/search,edit-search
[12:39] <pkunal-parmar> ok
[12:39] <kalikiana> just made that one up, but say if there's a desktop-usable delete icon you can use that and the mobileone
[12:39] <pkunal-parmar> so it choose whatever is available ?
[12:39] <kalikiana> from left to right
[12:39] <nik90> pkunal-parmar, renato: I have the same delete issue that you discussed above
[12:40] <nik90> pkunal-parmar, renato: Only for the last remaining item, I do not get the itemcount changed signal
[12:40] <pkunal-parmar> nik90, it may be better to use modelChanged signal
[12:41] <pkunal-parmar> but currently after delete that is not working  as well
[12:41] <nik90> pkunal-parmar: for the alarms I am using onModelReset signal
[12:41] <pkunal-parmar> ok
[12:41] <mihir> pkunal-parmar: still we haven't implemented recuurenrce right ?
[12:41] <kalikiana> pkunal-parmar: try image://theme/delete,edit-delete-symbolic
[12:42] <kalikiana> that works for me on the desktop
[12:42] <dpm> oh, that's a nice tip
[12:43] <pkunal-parmar> kalikiana, for me also it works
[12:43] <pkunal-parmar> though icon is different
[12:43] <pkunal-parmar> mihir, no, not yet
[12:43] <mihir> pkunal-parmar:  okay :)
[12:46] <mihir> pkunal-parmar: our meeting has been cancelled ?? I can't see in my calendar , only deisng meeting is there
[12:48] <pkunal-parmar> not sure, I can not see either
[12:48] <pkunal-parmar> dpm, should know
[12:48] <JamesTait> dholbach, fix for lp:1239662 is in review.
[12:49] <dpm> pkunal-parmar, mihir, either I or popey must have cancelled, probably because it's release day, but we can still have a chat on IRC if you guys want
[12:49] <mihir> dpm: it has been cancelled the entier reccurence
[12:49] <mihir> dpm: that's fine :) we can resume after our release i guess
[12:50] <dpm> We've done all that we could for the release, and you guys have done really awesome work. Now it's time to relax, have a well-deserved break and enjoy the result of your work :)
[12:50] <dpm> Post-release, one of the first priorities will be to get the events fully working, i.e. with edit and delete functionality
[12:52] <pkunal-parmar> so release is finalized ?
[12:53] <dpm> yeah, today is release day, the final image is to be published in the next few hours
[12:53] <pkunal-parmar> ok, BTW I noticed design hangout was moved one hour later, that is 12.30 here
[12:54] <pkunal-parmar> I would perfer older time 11.30
[12:54] <dpm> oh, weird, I don't remember moving it, let me have a look
[12:54] <pkunal-parmar> ok
[12:55] <mihir> dpm: thanks a lot for your support :)
[12:55] <pkunal-parmar> its move from November
[12:55] <mihir> pkunal-parmar:  thank you for your guidance :)
[12:55] <pkunal-parmar> welcome
[12:56] <dpm> pkunal-parmar, I don't see it changed. What date do you see it changed the time?
[12:56] <pkunal-parmar> for me its 1Nov
[12:56] <pkunal-parmar> 12.30 am
[12:58] <dpm> pkunal-parmar, are you sure it's not a daylight time savings issue?
[12:58] <pkunal-parmar> we dont have daylight saving
[12:59] <pkunal-parmar> do you have ?
[12:59] <pkunal-parmar> so what will be UTS time?
[13:00] <dpm> pkunal-parmar, it'd be 14:30 UTC
[13:00] <dholbach> JamesTait, yeehaw
[13:00] <pkunal-parmar> ok
[13:01] <pkunal-parmar> which is same as before ?
[13:01] <dpm> yeah
[13:02] <popey> Yes, I cancelled all the meetings as we hit release
[13:17] <mihir__> popey:  okay
[14:21] <oSoMoN> dpm: is there a calendar app design hangout today?
[14:21] <dpm> oSoMoN, I thought we skip it, but happy to join if you guys want to hang out. popey, what do you think?
[14:22] <popey> I'm easy, your call
[14:24] <oSoMoN> dpm: I’m fine with skipping, nothing to ask/report anyway
[14:24] <dpm> pkunal-parmar, mihir__, are you happy to skip the design hangout today, or do you guys want to have it?
[14:25] <mihir__> dpm: we can skip for this week, as we have release :)  we can reseme from next week or so
[14:27] <pkunal-parmar> we can skip
[15:13] <balloons> nik90, ping
[15:18] <nik90> balloons: pong
[15:19] <balloons> nik90, hey, thanks for reviewing things :-) I'm curious to look back through the code myself. I was exhausted by the time I finished it, I'm sure it gets lovely in some places
[15:19] <nik90> balloons: hehe
[15:20] <nik90> balloons: we are not in a hurry anymore .. the public release of 1.0 has been done and alarms does not work on it since renato's patch for EDS did not make it into the phone image
[15:20] <balloons> you picked up on some of the funny bits in your review -- things that should work but didn't
[15:20] <balloons> and yes, so we can really tweak this to fix everything
[15:20] <nik90> balloons: exactly
[15:20] <balloons> I hate the get_first nonsense in there
[15:21] <nik90> balloons: also regarding the ordering of the alarms
[15:21] <balloons> for instance :) It's in timer too.. horrible. I should be able to grab any one I wish
[15:21] <nik90> balloons: the alarms API reorders the list based on the alarm closest to the current time
[15:21] <nik90> balloons: hence the list is dynamic
[15:21] <nik90> balloons: I can check with zsombi to see if that can be disabled to help with the AP
[15:21] <balloons> nik90, that's fine. the ordering issue is how the sdk populates the list internally
[15:22] <balloons> not alarms, but the dates
[15:22] <balloons> it goes something like sunday weds, etc, etc random, ending on sat
[15:22] <nik90> balloons: ah that
[15:22] <nik90> balloons: I think I can fix that
[15:22] <balloons> basically I spent time adding extra asserts as I could throughout the code, and often they failed
[15:23] <balloons> that was one example of failure
[15:23] <nik90> balloons: am not really happy at the way clock is at the moment..alarms broken ..consistent bugs with world clock ..hopefulyl next cycle is better of.
[15:23] <balloons> also QQuickListView.count as you mentioned. No it wasn't robust :-( I don't remember why, but I had several iterations getting an alarm count
[15:24] <popey> nik90: we can certainly fix things
[15:24] <balloons> in the end counting labels worked better than anything else
[15:24] <popey> nik90: there is discussion about putting SRU fixes in for platform bits, and we can update the clock itself via the store
[15:24] <nik90> balloons: I heard pkunal parmar also had issues with the count variable concerning EDS..it does not fire the signal correctly leading to faulty alarm count
[15:24] <nik90> popey: okay
[15:25] <balloons> nik90, if it helps there's a secret about releasing. The best image is usually the one made a few days after the release image :-) So next week's iso will be better than the release as it has more fixes, etc :-)
[15:25] <balloons> nik90, yes exactly.. it didn't update
[15:25] <balloons> in general eds needs a bit more love
[15:25] <nik90> balloons: hehe
[15:25] <balloons> so releasing is a big deal.. and so is fixing all the release bugs ;-)
[15:26] <balloons> it's easier now that it's released
[15:35] <popey> nik90: really sorry we didn't manage to get the bits in the final image. I know that was important to you.
[15:36] <nik90> popey: no worries, it doesn't matter since the indicator date-time patch wasnt in the image either..so getting renato's patch alone wouldnt have helped anyway. Its okay...not your fault
[16:58] <popey> beuno: seems that package name / application name / namespace is not clear on the first form as it doesn't match the names of the fields on the technical details page later.
[16:59] <popey> beuno: also, I am not getting any emails
[17:02] <beuno> popey, hmmmm, emails. Are you 100% sure?
[17:02] <popey> i searched my email for the name of the app
[17:03] <popey> nothing
[17:03] <beuno> popey, it'll soon be a non-issue as we'll scan it out of the package
[17:03]  * popey checks spam
[17:03] <popey> yup, no email
[17:04] <beuno> popey, I'll look into emails
[17:06] <popey> ta
[17:07] <SimonK> can anyone tell me how to use the property "highlightWhenPressed" from "ListItem.Empty" in ListItem.Standard? (I want a list where I can press a entry so that this entry gets highlighted)
[17:08] <JamesTait> dholbach, architecture:all is on Staging, looking good, but held up by a separate problem with another fix deployed at the same time.
[17:08] <dholbach> JamesTait, gotcha
[17:08] <dholbach> thanks a bunch for your hard work
[17:09] <dholbach> for the live demo we worked around this by pushing a "fake" armhf click :)
[17:09] <dholbach> but I'll upload an update once the fix is there :)
[17:10] <dholbach> all rightie
[17:10] <dholbach> time to call it a day for me!
[17:10] <JamesTait> dholbach, yeah, apologies for the delay, would have preferred not to have required the workaround.
[17:10] <dholbach> see you tomorrow!
[17:10]  * dholbach hugs JamesTait
[17:10] <dholbach> don't worry
[17:10] <dholbach> you've all done a fantastic job
[17:10] <JamesTait> dholbach, have a great evening. :)
[17:10] <dholbach> and as I said in the hangout earlier: I'm super happy with where we are right now
[17:10] <dholbach> getting apps in was never as fun as it is right now
[17:11] <dholbach> all right - see you! :)
[18:50] <mzanetti> popey: hey, I'm afraid it's still the same thing. We use the applicationName in a different way than Qt does
[18:50] <mzanetti> popey: if I set it in the qml file it breaks QSettings
[20:31] <aquarius> mhall119 or popey, has anyone done a post or something somewhere with screenshots of a bunch of the best-looking Ubuntu phone apps? I wanted to show something to a mate of mine to say "this is what they've made; doesn't it look cool?" and couldn't find much -- I can probably assemble something myself by looking around and collecting things, but if someone had a post somewhere with lots of screenshots of apps
[20:31] <aquarius> that'd be handy :)
[20:34] <popey> aquarius: http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/
[20:34] <popey> aquarius: I take requests ☻
[20:35] <mhall119> popey: you mean you don't have them all on your phone?
[20:35] <popey> i have every app installed, yes
[20:35] <popey> but dont have screenshots of everything
[20:37] <aquarius> mhall119, I do not, yet, have a phone :)
[20:37] <popey> aquarius: your friends app, beru is broken on device ☹
[20:37] <aquarius> blimey, popey, nuff screenshots ;)
[20:37] <popey> ☻
[20:38] <aquarius> popey, yeah, when I get an Ubuntu phone that'll be top thing on my list to fix; I use the book reader more than almost anything else :)
[20:38] <aquarius> what are your opinions on the best looking apps?
[20:38] <mhall119> aquarius: pdf support in beru would be lovely too
[20:38] <aquarius> I may do a blog post, just so I can direct my mate to it
[20:38] <mhall119> aquarius: music, clock
[20:38] <mhall119> calendar, weather, calculator, shorts
[20:38] <aquarius> mhall119, I think that's a bad idea. I don't think that beru should be an all-purpose document reader
[20:39] <popey> music deffo
[20:39] <mhall119> aquarius: I agree, but I have a lot of ebooks in pdf
[20:39] <aquarius> and reading PDFs is massively, massively different from reading epubs. Totally different rendering engine.
[20:39] <aquarius> it'd basically be a PDF reader app and an epub reader app which hapen to share a home screen ;)
[20:39] <mhall119> aquarius: but we conveniently, thanks to chocanto, have a PDF rendering component for MQL
[20:39] <mhall119> QML
[20:39] <aquarius> isn't there a pdf reader as one of the core apps? I thought there was.
[20:40] <aquarius> obviously not :)
[20:40] <mhall119> aquarius: there is, but it doesn't have the homescreen for selecting books :)
[20:40] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-10-17-214010.png is new to me
[20:40] <popey> i am taking screenshots of each app now btw aquarius
[20:40] <popey> so refresh and you'll see some more shortly
[20:40] <aquarius> I freely admit that another reason I won't be adding pdf support to beru is that I hate reading PDFs with the heat of a thousand suns :P
[20:41] <aquarius> popey, can that folder process PHP files?
[20:41] <popey> nook renders PDFs nicely
[20:41] <popey> oh, as a gallery?
[20:41] <popey> sure
[20:41] <popey> I guess ☻
[20:41] <aquarius> popey, if so, a "gallery.php" which shows them all would be way handy
[20:41] <popey> sure
[20:41] <popey> gimmie
[20:41] <aquarius> albeit that it'd take AGES to load
[20:41] <mhall119> or upload them all to U1 and share the album
[20:41] <aquarius> popey, how do you get the screenshots in there? manually copy them in? or is there a script?
[20:42] <popey> script
[20:42] <mhall119> popey has magic
[20:42] <aquarius> popey, is it shareable? poking the script to (a) mak a thumbnail and (b) write a gallery.html would be better than doing it at runtime in php :)
[20:42] <nik90> popey: the script magician or the automator (if that is a word)
[20:42] <popey> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/phablet-flash-wrapper/view/head:/mirfbdump
[20:42] <aquarius> nik90, heh: automator is the OS X thing for making scripts :)
[20:43] <mhall119> nik90: word enough for me :)
[20:43] <popey> every time I take a picture it automagically uploads
[20:43] <popey> and prints the url
[20:43] <nik90> aquarius, mhall119: then it is settled -> Popey the automator
[20:44] <popey> By your command.
[20:44] <aquarius> hm, it scps, so it'd need to ssh over there to get the list of files, which'd be a PITA.
[20:45] <aquarius> so maybe just add a thumbnailer line
[20:45] <aquarius> convert $DST -resize 100x200 thumb-$DST; scp thumb-$DST $SVR:$SVRPATH
[20:45] <aquarius> and then I'll write a noddy php script to show a gallery :)
[20:45] <aquarius> for extra credit, thumbnail all the existing files :P
[20:48] <aquarius> thumbnailing all existing files: for f in *.png; do convert $f -resize 100x200 thumb-$f; done
[20:48] <aquarius> (in the folder ont he server, of course :))
[20:50] <popey> ok, thumbnails are there now
[20:54] <aquarius> popey, the noddiest of php scripts: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6253234/
[20:54] <aquarius> call it gallery.php and drop it in the folder :)
[20:56] <popey> k
[20:57] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/gallery.php
[20:57] <popey> boom
[20:57] <popey> nice one aquarius
[20:57] <aquarius> woooo gallery.
[20:57] <popey> haha, my cock soup photo
[20:57] <aquarius> that's cool :)
[20:58] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-09-17-123401.png
[20:58] <aquarius> popey, did you add the thumbnailing lines to the script as well, so future stuff gets thumbnailed?
[20:58] <popey> yes
[20:58] <aquarius> nice
[20:58] <aquarius> also, good luck playing cookie clicker on a phone. It zooms in and out :)
[20:58] <popey> :D
[20:58] <popey> i noticed
[20:59]  * popey tests script
[21:00] <popey> convert.im6: WriteBlob Failed `thumb-/home/alan/Pictures/device-2013-10-17-215950.png' @ error/png.c/MagickPNGErrorHandler/1728.
[21:00] <popey> doh
[21:00]  * popey fettles
[21:00] <aquarius> ha!
[21:00] <aquarius> sorry :)
[21:01] <aquarius> you get to hat up on $(basename $f) now. :)
[21:01] <popey> yeah, already have that in there
[21:01] <popey> need to juggle things a bit
[21:05] <aquarius> ok, photo requests: music (looking as pretty and visual as possible), calculator, a nicer shorts shot, weather
[21:05] <popey> done
[21:05] <popey> pushed new version which does thumbnails
[21:05] <aquarius> mhall119, there is a reasonable argument, I think, that the front screen for books ought to be... a books scope in the Dash
[21:06] <mhall119> aquarius: conveniently we used to have a books scope
[21:06] <aquarius> *nod*
[21:06] <mhall119> beru would still need to be updated to take a book argument
[21:07] <aquarius> you'd have one scope which was Books, and it would aggregate a Beru scope and a PDF-Reader-App scope and the books category from the Amazon scope, etc
[21:07] <mhall119> also I think we'd need the content-hub fully implemented
[21:07] <aquarius> I am 16% sure that it can take a book argument.
[21:07] <aquarius> Agreed on the content hub, I admit. :)
[21:12] <aquarius> popey, sorry, forgot to direct the above list of photo requests at you ;)
[21:12] <popey> aquarius: done some
[21:12] <popey> see if they are there
[21:12] <aquarius> popey, ah, cool! soz
[21:13] <popey> shorts is giving me a black screen
[21:13] <aquarius> popey, also, Dropping Letters, just because if I'm publishing a list of apps that I think look cool I'd like to put in one of the apps that I wrote :P
[21:13] <aquarius> donna summer!
[21:13] <aquarius> rawk.
[21:13] <aquarius> couldn't have taken a screenshot with, say, AC/DC :)
[21:14] <aquarius> you do already have a Shorts one, but I think it looks a bit weird, like half the screen is empty. However, I fear that's how Shorts is *meant* to look
[21:15] <popey> added 2 more
[21:16] <popey> every time i screenshot dropping letters someone takes the piss out of my crap score
[21:16] <aquarius> also, the calendar screenshot has text appearing outside its month box
[21:16] <aquarius> popey, hack the code to have a massive score. Linux is about choice, after all
[21:17] <aquarius> hey! http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-10-17-220825.png !
[21:17] <aquarius> I am not sure I like the implication there :)
[21:18] <popey> hahaha
[21:18] <popey> you're generous
[21:18] <popey> is what I read from it
[21:19]  * aquarius winces at AT&amp;T in the shorts screenshot :(
[21:19] <popey> damnit, saucybacon is broken too
[21:22] <popey> aquarius: patches welcome
[21:28] <popey> aquarius: any more you need?
[21:29] <aquarius> popey, that's fantastic, thank you!
[21:29] <aquarius> http://kryogenix.org/days/2013/10/17/ubuntu-phone-apps-images posted
[21:29] <aquarius> now I can point Mike at it :)
[21:32] <aquarius> popey, if you'd rather I didn't link to your gallery, I'll remove the link
[21:34] <popey> nah, tis fine
[21:37]  * aquarius hehs at popey's comment. Quite right.
[21:37] <popey> aquarius: hurry up and tweet / G+ it so i can reshare
[21:37] <aquarius> oh! you think? I was really only doing it so I had a link to send to Mike.
[21:37] <aquarius> will put it on g+ :)
[21:37] <popey> well duh
[21:40] <aquarius> done
[21:42] <popey> nice one
[21:45] <aquarius> popey, is part of the goal for the screenshots thing to chronicle the evolution of the apps over time?
[21:45] <popey> kinda
[21:45] <popey> more just an easy way to share individual screenshots
[21:45] <aquarius> 'cos some people might see the list and think that it's representative of the apps now, is all
[21:46] <popey> as a byproduct there's quite a collection there
[21:46] <popey> i also have an archive of a lot of the images too
[21:46] <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/
[21:46] <aquarius> not that I have a good solution to that, other than "popey does a whole bunch of classification work which will basically persuade him to just not do screenshots" :)
[21:46] <popey> going back to june
[21:46] <popey> jej
[21:47] <aquarius> email sent to mike, too. Sweet.
[21:47] <aquarius> I suppose I ought to get back to work, now :)
[22:20] <aquarius> woah, grooveshark's html version is controllable from the ios7 lock screen. It wasn't from ios6. I'd really like that to work on an Ubuntu phone...
[22:27] <popey> aquarius: thanks ☻  http://popey.com/usage/usage_201310.html
[22:28] <aquarius> oops
[22:28] <aquarius> I did say I'd remove the link :)
[22:28] <aquarius> put an ad on the page ;)
[22:28] <popey> nah, it's cool ☻
[22:28] <popey> i have oodles of spare bandwidth on that box
[22:30] <aquarius> I shall see what I can do about that ;)
[22:35] <popey> hah
[23:04] <aquarius> mhall119, ping about http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/lenses-and-scopes/ - it's the top hit for a search for "ubuntu scope", and I think it's an out-of-date page which ought to be poked into pointing at newer stuff?
[23:04]  * aquarius is configuring scopes on and off to convince the dash that I like recipes more than music :)
[23:04] <mhall119> aquarius: agreed, I'll file an RT to add a redirect
[23:04] <cm-t> Hi, I am trying to open gnome-control-center on the activity-log-manager subpanel, it is working. Is it possible to  select the tab to focus? like search tab
[23:05] <cm-t> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6253793/
[23:05] <cm-t> (python)
[23:06] <cm-t> in this code I added "search" to mean what i want, but might be not the good way/id
[23:06] <aquarius> cm-t, what's the activity-log-manager subpanel?
[23:06] <aquarius> (that is: what's it called in the GUI?)
[23:06] <aquarius> I don't seem to have anything called hat :)
[23:06] <cm-t> when you go in ubuntu settings, you have privacy panel
[23:06] <cm-t> aquarius:
[23:06] <cm-t> ↑
[23:07] <cm-t> this code works without "search"
[23:07] <aquarius> cm-t, ah, you want to open the "Security & Privacy" panel, and then show the Search tab inside it, all in one command.
[23:07] <cm-t> all in one command or not, i wish i could make it focus to the search tabs, yes
[23:08] <aquarius> I don't think it's possible to make any System Settings app start up showing a tab other than the default, from a command.
[23:08] <cm-t> the code in the paste open well the privacy panel
[23:08] <aquarius> It might be possible with a D-Bus call, though.
[23:09] <aquarius> the man page names some of the panels (which you are using correctly) and does say "Individual panels may accept further arguments to specify which tab to open (for multi-tabbed panels)" but doesn't say whether that paicular panel actually *does* so accept.
[23:12] <aquarius> cm-t, a good person to ask might be Robert Ancell
[23:14] <aquarius> mhall119, I already mentioned about the Unicode stuff being broken on some developer.u.c pages, didn't I?
[23:14] <cm-t> thanxs aquarius
[23:37] <mhall119> aquarius: yes, I fixed what I found though, if there's more please file a bug
[23:37] <aquarius> mhall119, file it against which project?