| jose | jono: ping | 03:10 |
|---|---|---|
| SergioMeneses | good evening!!! | 03:23 |
| SergioMeneses | bkerensa, around? | 03:24 |
| jcastro | dholbach, I have 4 hours to prepare iirc? | 13:05 |
| dholbach | jcastro, 3 | 13:05 |
| dholbach | brb | 13:05 |
| jcastro | ta | 13:05 |
| dholbach | → lunch | 13:05 |
| alourie | bkerensa: ping | 13:09 |
| SergioMeneses | morning! | 13:11 |
| jcastro | dholbach, I hope you are ready for my awesome | 13:29 |
| jcastro | my demo will be wicked | 13:29 |
| dpm | everyone's help in spreading the love will be appreciated -> http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/10/a-new-mobile-force-emerges-announcing-ubuntu-13-10-for-smartphones/ :) | 13:42 |
| smartboyhw | dpm, G+-ing | 13:42 |
| dpm | \o/ | 13:42 |
| smartboyhw | dpm, https://plus.google.com/113294244748214217005/posts/Pvey14wkzQf | 13:43 |
| smartboyhw | May all of us be happy for the release:) | 13:45 |
| dpm | everyone should be happy! \o/ | 13:47 |
| * SergioMeneses hugs dpm | 13:53 | |
| * dpm hugs SergioMeneses | 13:56 | |
| * smartboyhw hugs both dpm and SergioMeneses | 13:57 | |
| * dpm hugs smartboyhw back | 14:04 | |
| * elfy suspects smartboyhw is squirming | 14:05 | |
| smartboyhw | elfy, well, I'm revising;P | 14:05 |
| SergioMeneses | elfy, jajaja | 14:06 |
| dpm | man, I'm just +1'ng everything on G+ today | 14:07 |
| smartboyhw | dpm, me tooP | 14:08 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 14:08 |
| jcastro | dholbach, hey ninja | 14:22 |
| jcastro | can you update ubuntuonair with the right times, etc so I can start spamming the planet to come see my demo? | 14:22 |
| dholbach | jcastro, sure, I'll update | 14:23 |
| dholbach | jcastro, done | 14:25 |
| bkerensa | dholbach: happy release day | 14:32 |
| dholbach | bkerensa, and the same to you | 14:32 |
| popey | \o/ Windows 8.1 | 14:34 |
| bkerensa | popey: you troll us :) | 14:39 |
| popey | Moi!? | 14:39 |
| bkerensa | ;p | 14:40 |
| jcastro | popey, hey | 14:40 |
| jcastro | popey, what laptop do you use? | 14:40 |
| popey | BARK BARK BARK jcastro ! | 14:40 |
| popey | you know | 14:40 |
| popey | X220 | 14:40 |
| jcastro | oh right | 14:40 |
| jcastro | hey so I have an x230 | 14:40 |
| popey | so you tell me | 14:40 |
| jcastro | do you have bluetooth on it? | 14:40 |
| popey | repeatedly | 14:40 |
| popey | i do | 14:41 |
| jcastro | do you have a PS3? | 14:41 |
| popey | i do not | 14:41 |
| jcastro | ok | 14:41 |
| jcastro | but you could get something like this: | 14:41 |
| jcastro | http://www.amazon.com/Playpad-Android-Bluetooth-PC-Mac-Linux/dp/B0092ZEINO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1382020893&sr=8-4&keywords=bluetooth+gamepad | 14:41 |
| jcastro | hey so I just realized, since I am getting on a plane tomorrow | 14:41 |
| jcastro | that if you have a controller and your laptop | 14:42 |
| jcastro | you have a portable steam box | 14:42 |
| jcastro | I know, common sense | 14:42 |
| jcastro | but it never dawned on me before that I could just game on the airplane, and then when you get off have your save games SYNC TO THE CLOUD | 14:42 |
| jcastro | popey, and I tried it yesterday, our laptop can run things like Half Life 2 Just fine! | 14:44 |
| popey | heh | 14:45 |
| popey | I purposely uninstalled all the games from my x220 | 14:45 |
| popey | trying to keep them only on my desktop | 14:46 |
| popey | still have one or two on... for testing.. yeah, testing | 14:46 |
| jcastro | well that's fine | 14:46 |
| jcastro | because at home you can just stream them to your laptop | 14:46 |
| jcastro | that's my plan | 14:46 |
| jcastro | but that doesn't help wrt. being on a plane | 14:46 |
| popey | wifi on planes.. streaming games from home... | 14:47 |
| popey | hmmm | 14:47 |
| jcastro | I got a new nvidia card for my windows box and I'm going to leave that one in the closet | 14:50 |
| jcastro | to stream the windows games that won't be native on linux | 14:50 |
| jcastro | I am all in man, craigslisted my xbox and everything | 14:50 |
| jcastro | well, the meme this time is that there's nothing new in 13.10 | 14:51 |
| jcastro | I wish the people complaining that we keep changing things would speak up, lol | 14:52 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, when are we going to have ubuntu App dev week, open week, dev week, that sort of thing? | 15:01 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, not sure - we should plan that at the next UDS | 15:01 |
| bkerensa | An early review of 13.10 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/ubuntu-13-10-review-the-linux-os-of-the-future-remains-a-year-away/ | 15:01 |
| bkerensa | "Although Saucy Salamander offers some useful improvements, it’s a relatively thin update." | 15:02 |
| smartboyhw | It's true. | 15:02 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 15:03 |
| bkerensa | well thats going to be the norm unless Canonical grows imo | 15:03 |
| bkerensa | even foundations is doing mobile stuff | 15:03 |
| bkerensa | which was a eye raiser | 15:03 |
| bkerensa | "Canonical faced considerable criticism last year when it first introduced the built-in Amazon search feature. The newly expanded search system, and the manner in which it is implemented, will likely raise additional concerns." | 15:03 |
| bkerensa | hmm idk | 15:03 |
| elfy | give a dog a bone and it'll knaw - they never get bored with it | 15:05 |
| bkerensa | My assumption is that Ryan thinks possible more concerns would be raised because of the addition services that can be searched versus just Amazon but I dont think that expands concerns necessarily | 15:09 |
| elfy | my assumption is people rabbit on about something till they have something else | 15:11 |
| elfy | bored by them | 15:11 |
| popey | I've already seen people making assumptions about how it all works without reading the rather extensive spec. | 15:14 |
| popey | Also conflating smart scopes and error reporting. | 15:14 |
| elfy | I saw you seeing that | 15:15 |
| bkerensa | popey: I saw you seeing that yesterday :) | 15:15 |
| popey | hah | 15:16 |
| popey | I see you! | 15:16 |
| dholbach | jono, are you setting up the hangout and posting it on the interwebs? | 15:47 |
| jono | dholbach, I will get it up in a few mins | 15:48 |
| dholbach | awesome! | 15:48 |
| jcastro | jono, hey are you going to be in this hangout? | 15:51 |
| jono | jcastro, I am presenting it :-) | 15:51 |
| jcastro | excellent | 15:51 |
| jose | jono, dholbach: all set? | 15:51 |
| jcastro | hey so for my demo, you are starting your own guitar store, and I'm going to be your infrastructure guy | 15:52 |
| jcastro | basically just nod and play along, toss up horns on occassion | 15:52 |
| jono | jose, setting it now | 15:54 |
| jose | jono: let me know if I can help in any way | 15:54 |
| jono | dholbach, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/f4a600e5a7b5679294cc56b340c7c8e691b43b65?authuser=0&hl=en | 15:54 |
| jono | dholbach, can you give it to all the people on the show | 15:54 |
| dholbach | jono, will do | 15:54 |
| jose | dholbach: airbot is running now, all the people you mentioned yesterday should have the ability to send AirBot !q and will give the next question in the queue | 15:55 |
| jose | all as long as they put QUESTION: in front | 15:56 |
| jose | jono: remember to enable your lower third | 16:02 |
| jono | jose, I can't | 16:06 |
| jono | I am using Chromium | 16:06 |
| jono | it doesnt work | 16:06 |
| jose | ah, well, nvm then | 16:06 |
| jose | jono: the link to ubuntu on air you posted to ubuntu on facebook is broken | 16:09 |
| jose | it says ubuntonair.com instead of ubuntuonair.com | 16:09 |
| jono | jose, fixed | 16:11 |
| jose | thanks | 16:11 |
| jcastro | http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1ongc9/ubuntu_on_air_demos_of_1310_features_streaming_now/ | 16:12 |
| popey | is the video supposed to be working? | 16:12 |
| popey | "Please stand by" | 16:12 |
| jose | popey: works now | 16:13 |
| popey | ok | 16:13 |
| popey | not here | 16:13 |
| popey | -> on air | 16:13 |
| jose | dholbach: subscribe to us, follow us on twitter | 16:22 |
| === dpm is now known as dpm-afk | ||
| jose | jono: would you mind if I join by the end of the hangout, so I can talk a bit about the LC on this current cycle | 16:34 |
| jono | jose, this is focused on the 13.10 release | 16:35 |
| jono | and what is in it | 16:35 |
| jono | so I think we should keep it on topic there | 16:35 |
| daker | mhall119: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/ubuntu-layouts2.html (set DEBUG to False) | 16:35 |
| jose | well, community aside then | 16:35 |
| jono | jose, this is just about the technology | 16:36 |
| jono | but I think having a session in the future about the LC makes sense | 16:36 |
| jose | yeah, got it :) | 16:36 |
| jose | ofc, that'd be after the meeting we may have with your team | 16:36 |
| jono | cool | 16:37 |
| mhall119 | daker: old link, where'd you get that? | 16:45 |
| daker | mhall119: google search | 16:45 |
| mhall119 | daker: yeah, hopefully they'll update | 16:46 |
| mhall119 | http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/UbuntuUserInterfaceToolkit.ubuntu-layouts2/ is the equiv | 16:46 |
| daker | mhall119: i mean set Debug to False :) | 16:46 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: no community contributors on the release Ubuntu on Air? | 16:47 |
| mhall119 | daker: ah, yeah, we'll do that eventually | 16:47 |
| mhall119 | bkerensa: it's the same group as our regular weekly updates | 16:47 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: why not community contributors mixed with Canonical employees like previous releases have been since the inception of Ubuntu on Air? | 16:48 |
| bkerensa | just saying | 16:48 |
| mhall119 | bkerensa: because this is just another edition of "Canonical people telling the community what we've been doing" | 16:48 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: you said :) | 16:49 |
| bkerensa | said it* | 16:50 |
| mhall119 | it's hardly a privilege having to go on-air every week and give people a status update, I wouldn't want to burden any community folks with this | 16:50 |
| jose | maybe some of them want to do it, ask some of them? :) | 16:50 |
| jose | it's not that difficult saying 'I'm part of this team and we've done this' | 16:51 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: based on PM's I have got it would seem some would have wanted to join but were not invited | 16:51 |
| bkerensa | just saying | 16:51 |
| mhall119 | if anybody wants to we'd be happy to have them, just didn't think anybody would want to | 16:51 |
| bkerensa | :) | 16:51 |
| mhall119 | bkerensa: please send those people to me, dholbach or jono | 16:51 |
| mhall119 | jose: for some people it is, I'm still nervous about it every time | 16:51 |
| jose | after ubuntu on air, I'm not nervous anymore about getting on stage and talking in front of my school | 16:53 |
| jose | :P | 16:53 |
| mhall119 | jose: lucky you, I don't think I'll ever not be nervous | 16:53 |
| jono | bkerensa, wow, you do get a lot of PMs ;-) | 16:54 |
| elfy | mhall119: I'm with you on that | 16:54 |
| jono | the Ubuntu version of TMZ | 16:54 |
| jono | lol | 16:54 |
| jono | :-) | 16:54 |
| bkerensa | jono: troll much? | 16:54 |
| jono | bkerensa, ironic :-) | 16:54 |
| jono | bkerensa, the point is, we didn't specifically exclude the community | 16:56 |
| jono | but we provided overviews of the key features in 13.10, most of which were led by the people on the hangout | 16:56 |
| bkerensa | jono: you just chose not to invite them to something created by the community | 16:56 |
| jono | bkerensa, define "created by the community" | 16:56 |
| bkerensa | jono: the first Ubuntu on Air session was created by a non-canonical employee and the first release day session was also facilitated by community | 16:57 |
| bkerensa | not your team | 16:57 |
| bkerensa | it was the same last release | 16:57 |
| jono | bkerensa, we are *all* in the community | 16:57 |
| jono | Canonical people included | 16:57 |
| bkerensa | jono: you are in the Canonical Community | 16:57 |
| bkerensa | :) | 16:57 |
| jono | bkerensa, I don't want to be rude, but I am tired of having the same discussion with yoyu | 16:58 |
| jono | I think our positions are clear with each other :-) | 16:58 |
| IdleOne | I believe all the people on jono's team started as non canonical employees | 16:58 |
| dholbach | bkerensa, we put this show together very very quickly | 16:58 |
| bkerensa | IdleOne: sure nobody is disputing that | 16:58 |
| bkerensa | IdleOne: but I think Jono's thoughts on what community is versus most is quite different | 16:59 |
| jose | jono: I can extend the session if you'd like | 16:59 |
| mhall119 | Ubuntu On Air is open to anybody who wants to use it for a live session about Ubuntu | 16:59 |
| IdleOne | bkerensa: I get where you are coming from, but you could have easily went to jono and said "Hey, I'd like to come onair and talk about the release with you folks. | 16:59 |
| bkerensa | IdleOne: I dont want to be on air | 17:00 |
| bkerensa | IdleOne: others did ask and he said no | 17:00 |
| bkerensa | scrollback ^ | 17:00 |
| IdleOne | perhaps there was a reason for the rejection you are not aware of? | 17:01 |
| mhall119 | bkerensa: about the release from an engineering perspective? | 17:01 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: Your a release engineer now? | 17:02 |
| mhall119 | practically yeah, this cycle | 17:03 |
| mhall119 | everything about my update was engineering-focused | 17:03 |
| jose | jono: wait wait wait | 17:03 |
| jose | jono: subscribe to us at youtube.com/ubuntuonair, follow us on twitter at twitter.com/ubuntuonair | 17:04 |
| jono | jose, oops too late | 17:04 |
| mhall119 | yes, don't forget to follow us! | 17:04 |
| mhall119 | ^^ | 17:04 |
| jono | I did mention the channel | 17:04 |
| jcastro | man, the release was too early | 17:04 |
| jono | jose, sorry, didnt realize you wanted me to say that | 17:04 |
| jono | will add it at the end of each show now | 17:04 |
| mhall119 | jose: can we put links into the videos? I see people do that all the time | 17:04 |
| jcastro | usually we have the hangout later in the afternoon | 17:04 |
| jcastro | you know | 17:04 |
| jcastro | WITH BEER. | 17:04 |
| jono | bkerensa, who asked to be on the show and I said no? | 17:04 |
| jose | mhall119: I'll go and do that | 17:05 |
| jose | no worries, jono | 17:05 |
| jono | the only person was jose, who I mentioned would be off topic, and jose was cool with that | 17:05 |
| mhall119 | jose: can it be automated, or do we have to do it for each one? | 17:05 |
| jose | mhall119: I'll have to do it manually, but it's no problem for me | 17:05 |
| mhall119 | jose: just don't want to give you more work | 17:06 |
| mhall119 | I assume you sleep at least every other week | 17:06 |
| jcastro | I want the record to show that I didn't break the youtube link | 17:06 |
| jose | I'll make sure to add that too :P | 17:06 |
| jose | mhall119: I'm on 'vacation' now, so it's fun for me :) | 17:07 |
| mhall119 | man, you rock so much :) | 17:07 |
| jono | thanks jose, many thanks for all your efforts! | 17:17 |
| jose | no worries, I'm here to help :) | 17:17 |
| jose | jono: hey, is there any response to the email I sent yesterday/ | 17:22 |
| jose | ? | 17:22 |
| jono | jose, there will be | 17:22 |
| jono | sorry, release has disrupted things | 17:22 |
| jose | at the time/date we proposed? | 17:23 |
| jcastro | https://plus.google.com/109001041694411321180/posts/67QKN6MpEpu | 17:46 |
| jcastro | yeah so | 17:46 |
| jcastro | that's not creepy or anything | 17:46 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: a diehard fan | 17:47 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: A charm scope would be cool :D | 17:47 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: I assume patches accepted? | 17:47 |
| jcastro | sure | 17:48 |
| jcastro | well, not me, mhall, I don't do scopes | 17:48 |
| jcastro | I also want/need a Steam scope too | 17:49 |
| mhall119 | dude, you were the one who talked me into writing them back when they were "Places" remember? | 17:49 |
| jcastro | I am glad they didn't change the API this time | 17:50 |
| jcastro | dude I had to go through like 3 API transitions back in the day | 17:50 |
| mhall119 | back in the day? I went through 3 api transitions in one cycle! | 17:53 |
| bkerensa | I have to admit I like the smart scopes | 17:53 |
| mhall119 | 12.10 -> 13.04, even though it didn't land in 13.04, partly because API kept drastically changing | 17:53 |
| bkerensa | dpm-afk: do you have the Translations contributor list? | 18:22 |
| bkerensa | for release notes credits | 18:22 |
| === io is now known as IdleOne | ||
| jose | pleia2: hey, mind a PM? | 22:31 |
| pleia2 | jose: go for it | 22:32 |
| philipballew | jono, Are you able to have a hangout for a couple minutes sometime in the next few days? | 22:53 |
| jono | philipballew, sure | 22:55 |
| jono | lets figure out a time now | 22:55 |
| jono | one sec | 22:55 |
| bkerensa | philipballew: gj | 22:56 |
| philipballew | cool! | 22:56 |
| jono | philipballew, 10am? | 22:56 |
| jono | (Pacific) | 22:56 |
| philipballew | jono, tomorrow? | 22:57 |
| jono | philipballew, yup | 22:57 |
| philipballew | jono, yeah, I can do 10m. It should not take that long at all. | 22:57 |
| jono | sure! | 22:57 |
| jono | what did you want to discuss? | 22:57 |
| philipballew | A talk I am giving on Ubuntu in a few days and what Ubuntu stuff should be talked about/emphasized. | 22:58 |
| jono | philipballew, ahhh perfect :-) | 22:59 |
| jono | philipballew, thanks for taking the time to get out and speak -) | 22:59 |
| jono | :-) | 22:59 |
| philipballew | jono, No worries. someone has to hit the pavement | 22:59 |
| jono | :-) | 23:00 |
| jono | pleia2, enjoy tonight | 23:00 |
| pleia2 | jono: thanks :) | 23:00 |
| jono | I was going to come along but my babysitter canceled :-( | 23:00 |
| jono | and Erica is out of the country this week | 23:00 |
| pleia2 | no one has rsvped yet, so I might need to raffle the salamander to myself | 23:00 |
| jono | pleia2, a worthy winner :-) | 23:00 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 23:00 |
| pleia2 | either way, I get to eat a sandwich! | 23:01 |
| pleia2 | fine evening | 23:01 |
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