[01:03] <cmaloney> Good evening
[01:10] <jrwren> good evening.
[01:10] <jrwren> anyone else maintain debs?
[01:10] <jrwren> is it worth setting up sbuild?
[10:21] <cmaloney> Good morning
[10:41] <cmaloney> Hm, for some reason my cablemodem went out and didn't reset itself.
[10:41] <cmaloney> Good morning btw.
[12:52] <rick_h_> morning
[12:52] <cmaloney> Dude, sorry to hear you didn't get the leprechaun
[12:52] <rick_h_> lol
[12:52] <rick_h_> I will be typing short as possible responses today
[12:52] <rick_h_> *ow!*
[12:53] <cmaloney> Yeah, no worries
[12:53] <cmaloney> Only takes a second to have a bad day.
[12:53] <rick_h_> I got nervous when the urgent care doc asked "Was it sheet metal? those things kill tendons..."
[12:54] <rick_h_> "not my precious hands!"
[12:56] <cmaloney> ouch
[12:56] <cmaloney> #1: Thanks for that Doc.
[12:56] <cmaloney> #2: Ouuuuuuuch
[12:56] <rick_h_> heh, well fortunately missed all that. Superficial wound that just wouldn't stop bleeding
[13:27] <ColonelPanic001> 'morning
[13:38] <jjesse> so everyone rushing out to do a do-release-upgrade this morning?
[13:38] <rick_h_> nope, all my stuff works
[13:38] <jjesse> lol
[13:40] <ColonelPanic001> oh, is that today?
[13:41] <ColonelPanic001> crap
[13:41] <ColonelPanic001> how did it get to be the 17th
[13:41] <jjesse> yeah as my google+ feeds shows heavily
[13:41] <ColonelPanic001> I want to like google+
[13:45] <jjesse> what causes you to not like it?
[13:45] <jjesse> (short version)
[13:47] <ColonelPanic001> just never think to check it, really
[13:48] <jjesse> ah
[13:48] <jjesse> at work we found we could move most of our off topic conversation to private circles there (gifs, silly discussions, etc)
[13:48] <ColonelPanic001> I do love how they have everything so circle-centric
[13:49] <ColonelPanic001> I made it harder for myself though - when it started, I wanted to keep things a little seperate, so I made a new gmail account just for that
[13:49] <jjesse> and because of that circle-centric stuff most of the discussion is private and we comment w/ full snark etc
[13:49] <ColonelPanic001> but now I have to switch accounts, etc. Not sure if I like it better this way or not
[13:50] <cmaloney> Yeah, I've been using G+ over Twitter
[13:51] <cmaloney> I like the convesations a lot more, and the threading is a godsend
[13:51] <ColonelPanic001> I don't use twitter much either. Mostly just moniter some hashtags etc for "news"
[13:51] <cmaloney> ie: no more "@foofiend: Yeah, that was the best part of the whole thing"
[13:51] <ColonelPanic001> Maybe I'll try to check in on g+ a few times a day for a week and see if the habit sticks
[13:52] <cmaloney> which now means I have to find the conversation that foofiend and barfoo had
[13:52] <cmaloney> I find it helps to follow interesting people
[13:52] <cmaloney> If you're into tabletop gaming I have a circle for you. :)
[13:53] <cmaloney> (note: it's a lot of people)
[13:54] <cmaloney> Shared two circles.
[13:54] <ColonelPanic001> I've kinda always wanted to try out D&D or something
[13:55] <ColonelPanic001> but there are two problems: 1) that involves other people, 2) I don't know anything about it other than the obvious.
[13:55] <cmaloney> bbl
[15:09] <cmaloney> Heh
[15:10] <cmaloney> yeah, the other people bit can be the fun part.
[15:12] <ColonelPanic001> and a visit to the dentist can be pleasent :P
[15:13] <cmaloney> I like my dentist.
[15:13] <cmaloney> It's the drilling I can't stand. :)
[15:14] <cmaloney> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/17/house-stenographer-sent-mental-exam-after-floor-ra/
[15:17] <ColonelPanic001> heard something about that
[15:18] <ColonelPanic001> sounds no more nuts than the elected people there, just more vocal
[16:59] <jrwren> bootcmd: while ! curl -s http://myserver..../pubkey | apt-key add - ; do sleep 2 ; done  # what could go wrong?
[17:03] <greg-g> jrwren: oh man
[17:03] <jrwren> :)
[17:03] <greg-g> I'll just go ahead and hijack the dns here....
[17:03] <jrwren> its actually been working in production flawlessly.
[17:04] <greg-g> who controls the dns/dhcp/etc on that box?
[17:04] <greg-g> box/network, that is
[17:04] <greg-g> isn't there a local (inside vlan) machine that could host the pubkey?
[17:05] <greg-g> also, http? no s?
[17:05]  * greg-g shakes head
[17:06] <jrwren> lolz
[17:06] <jrwren> you are PARANOID
[17:06] <jrwren> its in ec2 or an openstack instance.
[17:06] <greg-g> right, so easy way to own your machine
[17:06] <jrwren> in the ec2 case, the immediate command before the curl is a resolvconf command to use our dns
[17:07] <jrwren> for some definition of easy
[17:07] <greg-g> that would never fly here at WMF (we're all hardware we own, anyways, 'cloud' as it is normally thought of doesn't make sense for a top 5 website)
[17:08] <greg-g> we do have a pretty big openstack cluster, though, but that's only for community usage for things like bots/scripts
[17:09] <greg-g> (they get a sanitize replica of our production dbs, for instance)
[17:11] <brousch> Netflix isn't a top 5 website?
[17:12] <rick_h_> cloud == flexibile computing resources any more. private is cool. doing cloud-based stuff forces you to be more build-able/agile in your deployment strategory that opens up a bunch of cool processes for testing/staging/and doing one off proof of concept development spikes
[17:13] <jrwren> brousch: yeah! netflix!
[17:13] <jrwren> i actually agree with greg-g.
[17:13] <jrwren> netflix is throwing profit away by leaning on amazon so much
[17:13] <greg-g> rick_h_: yeah, why I said "as normally thought of" meaning "pawn it off to some 3rd party like amazon"
[17:14] <greg-g> brousch: pretty sure not, actually.... lemme see
[17:14] <brousch> rick_h_: You've been drinking the JuJu, haven't you
[17:14] <jrwren> openstack havana launched today with support for hardware. so your "cloud" isn't even necessarily virtual manchines anymore :)
[17:14] <brousch> JuJuice?
[17:14] <rick_h_> brousch: netflix isn't top 5 in traffic, just bandwidth
[17:15] <greg-g> http://www.alexa.com/topsites not on list
[17:15] <rick_h_> brousch: I have man. I"ve got a couple of really cool use cases that have sold me lately
[17:15] <jrwren> rick_h_: really? what bands? and how wide  :)    calling out your pedantism :)
[17:16] <brousch> greg-g: wikipedia is #6, not top 5!
[17:16] <cmaloney> bands?
[17:16] <greg-g> brousch: got-damn
[17:16] <cmaloney> So now that Wikipedia is #6 you can do whatever you want.
[17:17] <greg-g> HP CLOUD!
[17:17] <cmaloney> But once you've kicked baidu and yahoo to the curb you'd better straighten up, mister
[17:17] <cmaloney> no more cloud shenannigans for you
[17:17] <greg-g> :)
[17:18] <brousch> I actually had no idea it was that popular. I would've guessed top 25
[17:18] <rick_h_> ah, and netflix is only tops in the US
[17:18] <cmaloney> keee-ryst. Ordered something from a third-party seller on Amazon last week. They're just getting around to shipping it
[17:18] <rick_h_> it's not in the top 5 worldwide
[17:19] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea, hate that. Spoiles the magic
[17:19] <cmaloney> sent me a nice note, but didn't send me a mo-fo tracking number
[17:19] <cmaloney> having a little bet that this domestic "DHL - USPS last mile" will get here later than several discs I have coming from spain
[17:19] <cmaloney> that were shipped earlier this week.
[17:20] <jrwren> you can down vote the seller.
[17:20] <jrwren> i hate that too.
[17:20] <jrwren> amazon fulfillment ftw
[17:21] <cmaloney> Yeah, I can, but honestly they mentioned it'd take 7-14 days
[17:21] <cmaloney> and frankly they're on schedule
[17:21] <cmaloney> just was hoping it was more on the <7 days. ;)
[17:22] <greg-g> brousch: well, Wikipedia is the first or second search result for just about everything :0
[17:22] <greg-g> er :)
[17:28] <brousch> What are you talking about? It's not even on the first page https://www.google.com/search?q=just+about+everything
[17:31] <greg-g> well shit
[17:34] <ColonelPanic001> :(
[17:34] <jrwren> its before first if you use duckduckgo.
[17:34] <jrwren> almost always a wiki link before search results. I love it.
[17:55] <greg-g> jrwren: yeah, major selling point of ddg for me, too
[17:57] <brousch> Why do you guys hate America? If you don't let the NSA view your searches the terrorists will win.
[23:11] <tony-smlr>  SMLR is Live!  Video: http://www.youtube.com/embed/knQgZz3ngvw Audio stream: http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming
[23:12] <tony-smlr> We are also on #smlr
[23:13] <cmaloney> cool
[23:50] <gamerchick02> smlr?
[23:54] <cmaloney> Sunday Morning Linux Review
[23:57] <gamerchick02> awesome. wait. if it's Sunday Morning Linux Review... why is it live tonight?
[23:57] <gamerchick02> comes out on Sunday morning?