| Hypnotoad | knome: You can also request queuebot in the devel channel spitting out things related to your build or packageset, at least I think so anyway. | 03:59 |
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| cub | Release day? | 06:05 |
| Noskcaj | cub, Almost release night over here | 06:08 |
| cub | we should use that internet time. :D | 06:08 |
| cub | great, so how do I know if it is Virtualbox on Mac that breaks JACK or if it's the latest release that's broken? | 06:38 |
| OvenWerks | jack worked fine for me... 32 and 64 bit | 06:45 |
| OvenWerks | da/coast | 06:46 |
| OvenWerks | da/coast | 06:46 |
| cub | yeah I saw you had tested already | 06:56 |
| cub | which per our standard seems to be enough, 2/2 and 1/1. | 06:56 |
| cub | this is weird though since I tested the i386 iso 3 days ago and had no issues starting JACK in live session. But now, on the same VM both amd64 and i386 live session, JACK crashes | 06:58 |
| cub | Ok, so after setting up new laptop the i386 iso runs JACK fine in live session. Virtualbox on Mac, no to reliable. | 07:45 |
| cub | on the other hand, my touchpad on the ubuntu laptop does not work in the live session. | 07:45 |
| cub | I only have crap HW available, maybe I should just lay off the testing ... | 07:47 |
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| cub | hi smartboyhw | 08:56 |
| smartboyhw | cub, hello, can you test the i386 upgrades? | 08:56 |
| smartboyhw | We are only missing that... | 08:56 |
| cub | Nope | 08:56 |
| smartboyhw | Ouch | 08:57 |
| cub | I tried but it keeps crashing on my virtualbox and my eee pc won't get it to work | 08:57 |
| === smartboyhw changed the topic of #ubuntustudio-devel to: Ubuntu Studio Development Channel | https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio | find Ubuntu Studio stable Releases at https://ubuntustudio.org/download/ | latest current ISO http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/ | | ||
| === smartboyhw changed the topic of #ubuntustudio-devel to: Ubuntu Studio Development Channel | https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio | find Ubuntu Studio stable Releases at https://ubuntustudio.org/download/ | latest current ISO http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/ | ||
| cub | but when I checked OvenWerks had done all tests already? | 08:57 |
| smartboyhw | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/305/builds/55392/testcases | 08:57 |
| smartboyhw | Isn't done | 08:57 |
| cub | Aha perhaps I can run those. | 08:58 |
| smartboyhw | cub, yay! | 08:58 |
| cub | it's upgrade from 13.04? not 12.04.3? | 08:58 |
| smartboyhw | cub, upgrade from 13.04 | 08:59 |
| smartboyhw | We don't support upgrading from 12.04.3 to 13.10 (it's too big change) | 08:59 |
| cub | strange, when I navigate through the iso.qa site I can't find that page you linked to | 09:00 |
| smartboyhw | Eh? | 09:00 |
| smartboyhw | cub, ISO QA Tracker -> "Saucy Final" -> "Upgrade Ubuntu Studio i386" | 09:00 |
| cub | aha Upgrade was filtered out with the other distros | 09:00 |
| smartboyhw | ;) | 09:00 |
| cub | Why is "Upgrade" considered a separate Product? | 09:03 |
| cub | doh..my 13.04 VM was 64 bit. Need to install 32 bit first | 09:03 |
| cub | I will most likely get the same issue with JACK as before, but I blame that on Virtualbox running under Mac OS X | 09:03 |
| smartboyhw | cub, well, JACK on Virtualbox is terrible but it does pronounce sound here :) | 09:08 |
| cub | It worked fine 3 days ago, but with the new iso today I got crashes on both 32 and 64 live sessions on the sam VM | 09:08 |
| cub | but I ran a usb live session on my eee pc and it worked fine. Though I had hw issues on that pc | 09:09 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, hmm, last time (13.04) I didn't do any release announcements, we only have the one you did.... | 09:17 |
| cub | 13.04 installation, updating 320 packages. :P | 10:18 |
| cub | suppose I can go for lunch before I can do the 13.10 upgrade. | 10:18 |
| smartboyhw | cub, sure | 10:38 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: Just do what you always do. That text only needs to be copied directly to the website | 11:10 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, ACK, OK | 11:11 |
| zequence | I'll be doing an additional release announcement, just giving some cred to the people developing Ubuntu Studio, and talking a bit about what has been going on | 11:11 |
| knome | Hypnotoad, might be possible, but you probably want to see the discussion as well | 11:21 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, check out the announcement on the Ubuntu Studio website (draft) | 11:24 |
| smartboyhw | holstein, please be ready for updating channel topics today :) | 11:25 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: Looks good | 11:26 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, :) | 11:26 |
| cub | 1567 files to fetch. :P | 12:00 |
| smartboyhw | cub, ow | 12:03 |
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| cub | the wifi dropped mid-upgrade.... | 12:18 |
| smartboyhw | cub, ew | 12:20 |
| smartboyhw | Forget it then? | 12:20 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: Let's fix the download page before posting the release, ok? | 12:33 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, you want to change the download links NOW? Sure | 12:33 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: I'll wait until the official release announcement | 12:34 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, OK | 12:34 |
| cub | no it seems to be alright. Must have downloaded everything just in time. | 12:41 |
| cub | so the upgrade test is still ongoing. | 12:41 |
| smartboyhw | cub, yay | 12:55 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, I've updated the links on my side, just waitiing for the release | 12:55 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: What links? | 12:58 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, download links | 13:08 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: Yes, but where? | 13:10 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, well, at my computer-.- | 13:10 |
| smartboyhw | We are supposed to wait till release right? | 13:10 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: So, you put some links onto your computer? | 13:10 |
| zequence | Where did you change the links, is what I'm asking | 13:11 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, not-yet-saved copy on the website (because it doesn't allow drafts) | 13:11 |
| zequence | Ah, ok. Well, you want to update the wikis then too? | 13:12 |
| zequence | I was going to do that, but it seems you are already doing it | 13:12 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, since you were going to do the wikis, you can do the wikis:) | 13:13 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: I was going to do the download page too | 13:13 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, oh, OK | 13:13 |
| smartboyhw | Will update the wiki later then | 13:13 |
| zequence | ok, good | 13:14 |
| cub | smartboyhw: upgrade test ok. | 13:19 |
| smartboyhw | cub, it's released anyhow:P | 13:19 |
| cub | bah | 13:19 |
| smartboyhw | (Looks like) | 13:19 |
| cub | seems all my testing for this release have been obsolete. | 13:20 |
| smartboyhw | cub, don't feel that sad | 13:20 |
| zequence | cub: The most common problem for me when doing upgrades is user settings | 13:21 |
| cub | hmm yeah I didn't any of those since the 13.04 installation was clean install | 13:21 |
| zequence | cub: things like background for the login window being corrupted. I think the more you change settings (and they are stored in the user home folder), the more likely there are to be problems | 13:21 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, my release announcement sent and published | 13:22 |
| cub | hard to write a test case for that? | 13:22 |
| zequence | cub: I think one just needs to map out all of the settings that can be changed and stored for XFCE | 13:23 |
| zequence | but, it's a little outside of the scope of what we do here | 13:23 |
| zequence | so, not really what we should focus on | 13:23 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: Ok. Great | 13:24 |
| zequence | I'll post another release announcement later today - or it'll be more like just a letter to the public | 13:26 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, the wiki links that I can found is changed | 13:26 |
| zequence | smartboyhw: There are only two. wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio and help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio | 13:26 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, then all done | 13:27 |
| zequence | Great work everyone. | 13:27 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, cub OvenWerks great job:) | 13:28 |
| smartboyhw | Releases are earlier these days | 13:28 |
| smartboyhw | 13.04 and 13.10 are no later than 15:30 UTC | 13:29 |
| smartboyhw | Huh, only three flavours have announcements (LOL) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2013-October/000177.html | 13:29 |
| smartboyhw | astraljava, holstein please change topic in #ubuntustudio, we thank you for the work:) | 13:31 |
| smartboyhw | T cycle, here we come (where's the codename:P) | 13:39 |
| zequence | reposted in all our social channels | 13:45 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, yay | 13:46 |
| OvenWerks | for 14.04 I am thinking it may be worth while finding out what plugins are available for some of our main apps. (the scanning plugin for gimp may only be the tip of things) | 14:12 |
| OvenWerks | I think we should at least include most of such things in the extra SW installer. | 14:12 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerks, write it in the blueprints. Great work of you in 13.10:) | 14:12 |
| OvenWerks | but we need to know what they are first. | 14:12 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: Currently, we don't have anyone working on any of the workflows | 14:13 |
| OvenWerks | I will maybe tonight (think 10 hrs down the road) But it is also something that will need discusion. | 14:13 |
| OvenWerks | I know. | 14:14 |
| * OvenWerks is off to work | 14:14 | |
| zequence | We should find out about all the apps | 14:14 |
| zequence | Do a thorough research all around | 14:14 |
| cub | I was starting out to map workflows somewhat | 14:24 |
| cub | found a couple of pages that Scott set up I think | 14:24 |
| cub | but never got further than that so far. | 14:24 |
| cub | perhaps I should transfer my googledoc to the ubuntu wiki instead | 14:31 |
| cub | Hi ttoine, I think my mug have arrived. Will collect it form the Post office tonight. All in one piece I hope. | 14:37 |
| ttoine | ok | 14:41 |
| ttoine | tomorrow, I test ubuntu phone | 14:41 |
| ttoine | and I will try to use it as a java app server | 14:41 |
| zequence | cub: Scott scribbled a few things, yes, and some other folks | 14:56 |
| zequence | cub: But, those are not really relevant for researching apps so much, I mean, not so that you could base a lot of work on those pages | 14:57 |
| zequence | I find that Scott was focused on finding some way of simplifying the use of tools for users | 14:58 |
| zequence | But, IMO, he went the wrong way about it | 14:58 |
| zequence | What you need is application development for that to happen | 14:58 |
| zequence | And User Documentation, youtube videos, which show the user how to use existing tools | 14:58 |
| zequence | cub: Could I see what you have done so far? | 14:59 |
| cub | yeah but a list of the apps included with some information would be nice | 14:59 |
| cub | not much, I gathered some links you sent me and what I found on the wiki | 14:59 |
| cub | then I brainstormed a bit | 14:59 |
| cub | email incoming | 15:00 |
| zequence | cub: I think the first thing you should do is find a good way to list all application that are even faintly related to our workflows | 15:00 |
| zequence | then do some simple categorization on sub-workflows | 15:00 |
| zequence | Like, recording, mixing, mastering, etc. | 15:00 |
| zequence | It's easy to do on a workflow that you know well | 15:01 |
| zequence | If I were to do that for graphics, I'd need to learn all about graphics first, you know | 15:01 |
| zequence | We should consider some alternatives | 15:01 |
| cub | mhm | 15:01 |
| cub | I put a lot of stuff I'm planning to cehck out in trello | 15:02 |
| zequence | We could probably get all the major apps and tools to fit on the ISO | 15:02 |
| zequence | But, someone needs to find out, if it is possible, and for that, you need to have a comprehensive list of applications | 15:02 |
| cub | yeah | 15:02 |
| zequence | Anyway, the first thing to do is list the applications | 15:03 |
| zequence | All of them | 15:03 |
| zequence | Probably smartest to use some apt magic to find them | 15:03 |
| cub | gotta head home to the family. :) I might be around later on again. | 15:05 |
| holstein | updated topic :) | 16:29 |
| cub | zequence, how's the new job? | 19:20 |
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